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« Reply #15 on: Nov 12th, 2017, 9:24pm »

on Nov 11th, 2017, 7:03pm, bonehead wrote:
Roswell has traditionally been about what each individual is willing (or unwilling) to believe about the case.


It would take years in analyzing various UFO displays before the Roswell case could be thoroughly understood. First of all, if it were not for the Kenneth Arnold sighting, the hot idea of flying saucers would not spread among the populace reaching also the folks in New Mexico; meaning that upon finding, the debris would have been otherwise attributed to a failed man-made object. There were a few very suspicious coincidences in the Kenneth Arnold sighting that pointed toward Roswell. Kenneth Arnold didn't represent much of an authority, as the military brass did, and that's what impresses ordinary folks, thereby giving the case boost in credence.

Some UFO investigators played the mind game fairly well and began to suspect that the incident at Roswell might have been a deliberate act on the part of the hypothetical ET's. Little they suspect, though, that all the ET's had to do was damage a balloon to start the brainwashing business. There are other ways to study the amount of common sense in the mammalian heads, but they decided to go that way.

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« Reply #16 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 1:20pm »

We will never know what happened at Roswell.

I just know what happen to me in my past that changed my out look on everything.
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xx Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo
« Reply #17 on: Nov 15th, 2017, 11:02am »

on Nov 12th, 2017, 9:24pm, travex wrote:
It would take years in analyzing various UFO displays before the Roswell case could be thoroughly understood. First of all, if it were not for the Kenneth Arnold sighting, the hot idea of flying saucers would not spread among the populace reaching also the folks in New Mexico; meaning that upon finding, the debris would have been otherwise attributed to a failed man-made object. There were a few very suspicious coincidences in the Kenneth Arnold sighting that pointed toward Roswell. Kenneth Arnold didn't represent much of an authority, as the military brass did, and that's what impresses ordinary folks, thereby giving the case boost in credence.


Baloney. The summer of 1947 was a full-blown UFO flap. UFOs were being seen in various places (including New Mexico and the west coast). Arnold's sighting was not the first but only the first story that saw widespread dissemination. If you are not familiar with UFO flaps, then you need to do some reading up.

For instance, my one and only UFO sighting occurred during a UFO flap in the '70s.

UFO flaps occurred in the United States in 1897, Sweden in 1946, The U.S. in 1947 and 1952 (among others). Europe saw a big flap in 1954. Similar flaps also occurred in South America although I would have to check the years. Anyway, your connection here is bogus. It completely ignores the larger context of the 1947 UFO flap that needs no Kenneth Arnold to support it.....


on Nov 12th, 2017, 9:24pm, travex wrote:
Some UFO investigators played the mind game fairly well and began to suspect that the incident at Roswell might have been a deliberate act on the part of the hypothetical ET's. Little they suspect, though, that all the ET's had to do was damage a balloon to start the brainwashing business. There are other ways to study the amount of common sense in the mammalian heads, but they decided to go that way.


Sure, that's what happened. And here we go, off the rails into pure fantasy. Again. rolleyes


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« Reply #18 on: Nov 17th, 2017, 05:11am »

on Nov 15th, 2017, 11:02am, bonehead wrote:
Baloney. The summer of 1947 was a full-blown UFO flap. UFOs were being seen in various places (including New Mexico and the west coast). Arnold's sighting was not the first but only the first story that saw widespread dissemination. If you are not familiar with UFO flaps, then you need to do some reading up.

For instance, my one and only UFO sighting occurred during a UFO flap in the '70s.

UFO flaps occurred in the United States in 1897, Sweden in 1946, The U.S. in 1947 and 1952 (among others). Europe saw a big flap in 1954. Similar flaps also occurred in South America although I would have to check the years. Anyway, your connection here is bogus. It completely ignores the larger context of the 1947 UFO flap that needs no Kenneth Arnold to support it.....




I'm not sure what you are trying to deny. Kenneth Arnold seemed to be so much surprised by what he had encountered that he felt very compelled to share his experience with others. Not so, though, those who registered the "UFO flap" in 1946. There had been no mentioning of any "ghost rockets" in local Swedish newspapers. The known existence of German V2 rockets provided plausible explanation for the strange sightings - yes, there was a technology like that available at that time. The link between the Sweden sightings and Roswell exists but it is intricate. Not so much the next applicable case:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Aurora-UFO-crash-remains-a-Texas-alien-mystery-5410990.php

That was an alien induced hoax, but the story was based on a few real sightings, because the ET's wanted to reinforce the SIGHTING followed by the CRASH scenario to be repeated fifty years later in 1947. Not forty-nine nor fifty-one years later, but exactly fifty. If you look at the American flag, maybe you figure out why exactly fifty.

Roswell Daily Record never mentioned any crashed "ghost rocket" of 1946 nor any "cigar-shaped object" of 1897 - those descriptions in the previously rumored sightings - but "flying saucer." And those were the words used by Kenneth Arnold. In addition, the scattered items found in the debris field could hardly reveal the shape of the object prior crashing. That is the first and the most obvious link between the Kenneth Arnold sighting and the alleged Roswell UFO crash.

Later, the ET's reinforced the same way the alien-implant induced hoax story about the UFO crash in Aurora, Texas in 1897:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MUFON_releases_report_on_UFO_sighting_in_Stephenville,_Texas

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« Reply #19 on: Nov 17th, 2017, 12:08pm »

It sounds like you are the one with confirmational bias. Extreme to the point you accept as fact the wild tales that popped up later, recounted by fiction writers who wanted to sell magazine articles and books.

Look up the Mandela Effect. Roswell is a classic textbook example.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 17th, 2017, 10:40pm »

on Nov 17th, 2017, 12:08pm, dave54 wrote:
It sounds like you are the one with confirmational bias. Extreme to the point you accept as fact the wild tales that popped up later, recounted by fiction writers who wanted to sell magazine articles and books.

Look up the Mandela Effect. Roswell is a classic textbook example.


The Mandela effect is obviously not applicable in this case. It's been always the case with the debunkers raising arguments without them bothering to get acquainted with defining terms. It is also clear from your reply that you failed to to grasp the point I made.
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