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« Reply #150 on: Sep 16th, 2015, 9:05pm »

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« Reply #151 on: Sep 16th, 2015, 10:36pm »

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« Reply #152 on: Sep 17th, 2015, 7:21pm »

hehe..some rumors were spread about Roy..when I was a kid..

JJ I posted a link at websleuths..they really are very good..and I know the ones that count will visit and read your work..I believe a lot of people are unaware of this kind of research you are doing Its very important work..

I succesfully..posted .on your site!

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I am going to reiterate what I posted in reference to semblance of reality..
these are the bonafides of a federal agent.involved in the active case of trafficking drugs guns and you name it..any undercover agent would bge given an id that if searched would yield similar results as I was finding with blurs and pre existing identities..usually deceased like Lashes father.and mother mary..both dead..tie in a convenient Shirly Anderson..to Id the body..impossible as it was decomposed..possible if he was alive..
.databases like Mylife classmates are simple to embed connecting data..simply because the "bad guys" usually vet their people a lot more extensively than we ordinarily would as a mistake can cause either a life, money, and imprisonment..for very long stretches..and here the similarity ends..because with yee case still live and repeated car thefts cross town just less than a couple of weeks ago..there is no way Lash..already known to police.. would escape the radar....paticulary with the back and forth crossing of state lines..the last confiscation of 1200 by CA guns..legally registered..involved over a dozen agencies..Feds cooperate in these busts and local agencies depend on the fed statutes so they can keep a portion of the funds..
Here we have ...OMG the guy has 1200 guns and 14 cars..and pass the matter to Robbery and Homicide..thats it..Real law enforcement just does not work this way .declare no foul play before an investigation is completed..

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« Reply #153 on: Sep 17th, 2015, 10:30pm »

Thanks for the link and all, Sys. I appreciate it, and I look forward to seeing how else this story might unfold.
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« Reply #154 on: Sep 18th, 2015, 2:26pm »

on Sep 17th, 2015, 10:30pm, jjflash wrote:
Thanks for the link and all, Sys. I appreciate it, and I look forward to seeing how else this story might unfold.


Glad to help anytime JJ..I was just returning back from a visit to Rigorous intuition as I recalled a discussion about google replacing a photo with a 2007 clip then leaving all the 2012 shots..Now..these little things are very intriguing to me as you most here know my feelings about google and their helpfulness to Law Enforcement..and always eager to oblige government requests..points of intersection that don't work very well at times for serious researchers relying on stable information that has not been tampered with..
The street shots seem to have all been replaced now by august 2015 shots.

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Luposapien » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:12 am wrote:
Regarding the 5-year time regression on Streetview, if you move along a couple blocks in either direction on Palisades, you'll see the capture date revert back to 2012. So, yeah, a bit of scrubbing seems to be going on.
WOW that is exactly what I am seeing right now, everything else is 2012, his WAS 2012 but has suddenly reverted to 2007 while the rest of them remain at 2012. I dont think just anyone can make a change like that, that has to come from the highest levels of whoever is in control of the fracking[MOD-MEND] internet. So we have now confirmed shitskey[MOD-SCRUB] is being scrubbed from the internet, this indicates he was in fact working for one of the agencies and wasnt just some eccentric dude living off royalties, there is a concerted effort here to hide things, why I dont know yet but I hope this story doesnt die out, dont let it die out guys/gals, it needs as much attention as we can give it.


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I wasn't totally disappointed..because for sure these pix clearly show that the street always had a passerby ..such as a pet owner..and I bet they had plenty of pets at the palisades villas..I see ADT signs..parking limit signs for garbage..recycling mail delivery n pickup..and to think otherwise is a violation of common sense..to permit any vehicle with a corpse and attendant flies to escape attention for two weeks..
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But I am interested the conditions google does interfere with the the photos..
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« Reply #155 on: Sep 20th, 2015, 4:09pm »

First they lurked in caves..then as they evolved and adapted to human technology..they lurked in the very bowels of our Forums..waiting..observing..picking their targets carefully...
placing their teams in the garages of Mr and Mrs Suburbia..now they are ready to pounce..on the first Girlscout Mum that opens the gate.

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« Reply #156 on: Sep 20th, 2015, 11:46pm »

One other thing I noticed was similar to the chatter by certain groups before an event takes place...we can as a crude measure of hoaxes look at the chatter of videos as well as forum threads popping up dealing with hybrids
In our case ..I call this cloud seeding to prepare the audience..for receptivity..usually a 30- 90 day window
So I was not surprised when I dated when these videos went up by LMH remembering that the first even missing woman was july 8 week..ignition..then full detonation..about july 19 or so..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8cl_qCwQA8 august 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8cl_qCwQA8 may 21 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POrwbbI6fPU June 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NcWGC028I may 21 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIHZnM-qTIM may 21 2015

just for observation purposes only..of course..

This pattern was also present in the Drones..to comicon and Sarah chronicles announcement..then..boom writers strike ..messed everything up..no strike we would have had the series earlier..
So we do not say that LMH and Whitley created hoaxes...they may have sold an idea or script.sure.....far from it..only that they are an integral part a machine..a matrix. a facilitator...pushing a marketable product.and try to stay as close as possible to the products indentification making sure there is distance for reasonable deniability....its a relationship a special one one that Hollywood depends on as they have a captive radio audience of several million listeners...
Chatter therefore becomes a useful Tool..for ferreting a hoax.


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« Reply #157 on: Sep 21st, 2015, 3:09pm »

on Feb 5th, 2014, 7:54pm, jjflash wrote:
Carol Rainey's latest video addition to her YouTube channel, Budd Hopkins & Lt Col Corso at San Marino, 1998 v3. An outstanding glimpse, in my opinion, at some ufology history as well as the lack of credibility of Corso's claims. Her description and clip:

Published on Feb 4, 2014
Two controversial UFO researchers, Budd Hopkins and Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso (Ret) tangle at the 1998 San Marino conference. Hopkins is looking for proof of the startling claims made in 'The Day After Roswell,' a new book that Corso co-authored with William Birnes. It arguably has as many skeptics and critics as does Hopkins' own recent book, 'Witnessed,' an account of the Linda Cortile abduction case.

I would like to shed some light on any skeptic that believes Phil Corso is telling a hoax.
In high school 1965 I was told very high level secrets about alien technology by ne electronics teacher.
He said he was tasked with building a new science lab and went to a relatives home near Los Alamos, NM for advice.
The secret story was the same as the report from Corso.
I just found out a few months ago from my teachers son that the information came from his uncle Phil given to his father in 1965.
If it is all a hoax, why did Phil Corso wait so long to tell his story a year before he died?
I found out more from his nephew about things that were not in the book.

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« Reply #158 on: Sep 21st, 2015, 3:29pm »

I would argue, walt, that the relevant question is not why Corso would have waited to publish his story (allegedly), but why he cannot offer any verifiable evidence for it or directly answer Hopkins' questions.
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« Reply #159 on: Sep 21st, 2015, 3:41pm »

on Sep 21st, 2015, 3:29pm, jjflash wrote:
I would argue, walt, that the relevant question is not why Corso would have waited to publish his story (allegedly), but why he cannot offer any verifiable evidence for it or directly answer Hopkins' questions.

The WORD is "SECRET"?
I kept it secret for 50 years!
In fact, I kept my word to remain silent longer then Phil.
The Air force ask me to kept it secret from 1959 about reporting saucers.
Corso also told his son to try his best to get this out to the public after he dies.
You may not or may never believe the report....So just move on with your life and go in peace!
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« Reply #160 on: Sep 21st, 2015, 4:07pm »

on Sep 20th, 2015, 11:46pm, SysConfig wrote:
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This pattern was also present in the Drones..to comicon and Sarah chronicles announcement..then..boom writers strike ..messed everything up..no strike we would have had the series earlier..
So we do not say that LMH and Whitley created hoaxes...they may have sold an idea or script.sure.....far from it..only that they are an integral part a machine..a matrix. a facilitator...pushing a marketable product.and try to stay as close as possible to the products indentification making sure there is distance for reasonable deniability....its a relationship a special one one that Hollywood depends on as they have a captive radio audience of several million listeners...
Chatter therefore becomes a useful Tool..for ferreting a hoax.



Hiya Sys!! grin

About the SCC thing, or more specifically regarding the timing, are you using I09 & Screenrant as your source/s?

Yes, they didn’t put as much marketing behind it as they planned to but it didn’t affect the schedule as it actually premiered on TV a day earlier:

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An extended cut of the pilot was publicly screened for the first time on July 28, 2007, at the 2007 Comic-Con International convention. Originally scheduled to premiere on January 14, 2008, the television broadcast of the show was rescheduled to commence on January 13, 2008, after Fox reorganized their broadcast timetable due to the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike.

(Source: Wiki).

Which coincides perfectly with the time-frame described by Josh Friedman in his outright denial of any involvement:

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I'm not sure if this will put an end to this but I will assure you that the incorporation of drone-like imagery into TSCC should not in any way suggest there was/is a relationship between the original drone images and our show. The drone images are as much a puzzle to me as to anybody else...Maybe more so, as my obsession with their mysterious origins led me to go on and on about them in the writers' room...So much so that we ultimately used the mystery as a platform for "Earthlings Welcome Here."

I.e. if he was talking about them in the summer of 2007 then isn’t it about right that –with the writers strike- they would show up on our screens in December of 2008? (Nearly 12 months after the pilot aired and 19 months since the Drones first appeared).

I think –and always have- that the viral marketing angle is a dead end, but hey, who knows? wink


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« Reply #161 on: Sep 21st, 2015, 4:19pm »

hee..best evidence Doc..and as I stated before eons ago..with Levs site upping on the same day the contract was signed and then going down on the airing of Earthlings ..it was just a sloppy op...they had their decoys..just like the Hybrid aliens story was..Using John Lash as a decoy..
Plus Josh dodged the question whether he was working or not during strike..but admitted that film necessity required a skeleton crew to do minimal work..I already posted the images of their DVD showing Isaac to Abraham..from their bonus DVD..
You are no stranger to copyright law..whether in Europe or here the similarities go to you just dont do that in a litigious environment that Hollywood..with dozens of attorneys per square foot.is .John cameron found out the hard way..just stealing ideas from Harlen Ellison
Please note that you will never find the the actual com-icon film of that showing anywhere..because they took it down..yet left show all other subsequent ones..


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on Sep 21st, 2015, 4:19pm, SysConfig wrote:
hee..best evidence Doc..and as I stated before eons ago..with Levs site upping on the same day the contract was signed and then going down on the airing of Earthlings ..it was just a sloppy op...they had their decoys..just like the Hybrid aliens story was..Using John Lash as a decoy..
Plus Josh dodged the question whether he was working or not during strike..but admitted that film necessity required a skeleton crew to do minimal work..I already posted the images of their DVD showing Isaac to Abraham..from their bonus DVD..
Please note that you will never find the the actual comicon film of that showing anywhere..because they took it down..yet left show all other subsequent ones..


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Agreed!!

(Swift edit Sys!! cheesy) It screened somewhere else at the same time though and besides the Drones were never part of the plot until well after the pilot (two red eyes for marketing campaign and three dots for the Drone exoskeleton thingy tie-in).


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on Sep 21st, 2015, 4:25pm, DrDil wrote:
Agreed!!

(Swift edit Sys!! cheesy) It screened somewhere else at the same time though and besides the Drones were never part of the plot until well after the pilot (two red eyes for marketing campaign and three dots for the Drone exoskeleton thingy tie-in).


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From my correspondence with certain insider folk..there were legal issues involving in the use regarding the drone art..and other crossover material..Certainly also between Whedon and Friedman..Not to mention Reyes arrest for domestic violence right about that time..everything that could go wrong..did go wrong for them..
I do not just rely on internet...once enough persons write back you get a better sense of whats happening on the ground..they can fly all kinda sht in the air..but if you control the ground..you win..
IMO..both these hoaxes..are dead..and their impact minimized next to nothingness..
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on Sep 21st, 2015, 4:33pm, SysConfig wrote:
From my correspondence with certain insider folk..there were legal issues involving in the use regarding the drone art..and other crossover material..Certainly also between Whedon and Friedman..Not to mention Reyes arrest for domestic violence right about that time..everything that could go wrong..did go wrong for them..
I do not just rely on internet...once enough persons write back you get a better sense of whats happening on the ground..they can fly all kinda sht in the air..but if you control the ground..you win..
IMO..both these hoaxes..are dead..and their impact minimized next to nothingness..


Heh, I contacted a few peeps back then too Sys and I’d love to have the faith in the viral marketing thing angle that you do, I just don’t.

FWIW I personally believe that the perp/s lived VERY close to where one of the earliest Drone backgrounds were grabbed, i.e. within one of the buildings depicted. And I also think he knew he was rumbled a couple of years back but I digress...

Like you say I think we lampooned it enough back in the day to be rehashing now…



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