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« Reply #90 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 01:19am »

after that..all I can say is.. im in love! grin

But wait Theres is more!
Not to be outdone by Mary one of the premier websites on the net reports that Jeff was assasinated by Jadehelm operatives..and that jeff was a product of his dad Joe the microbiologist who was on the special med team at Roswell..
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1893.htm
thatthese aliens are actually temporal travelers..ergo..time travelers!
its much too dangerous for me to say anything here as we all know the place is crawling with Fed, Mibs, Psychoanalysts, Scathing skeptics and Bubbly believers..yet its the perfect place to put real information because no one will believe it! Pure Genius if i say so myself.
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« Reply #91 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 9:53pm »

Lets ignore Marys self aggrandizement ..we have another blog besides hers and Sotcha Faals ..what does it all mean..we now have Ground Zero..which quickly brushes off theAlien Dna hybrid matter for obvious lack of proof..but does post an interesting connection though tenuous at best with some others who came and proclaimed themselves hybrids..The Heavens Gate Matter..
and the infamous MKultra folx...I would hope JJ who I consider our very own In Resident Historian weighs in on this..because it would be serious..very serious if true.

We can count on La Times under the same umbrella as Fox..for a nice obit.
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What is very interesting about Lash’s background in that he was the son of a microbiologist, and wanted to follow in his father’s footsteps and enrolled at UCLA in the 1980s to study to be a scientist. However, he dropped out.

He was described as a loner.

He attended college at the same time that Louis Jolyon West was head of the Neuro- Psychiatric Institute at UCLA.

While Dr. West’s curriculum doesn’t mention that he received Top Secret clearance from the CIA as the contractor on MKULTRA Subproject 43, CIA documents show that grants were given to Dr. West for studies entitled, “Psychophysiological Studies of Hypnosis and Suggestibility” and “Studies of Dissociative States.” Further, Dr. Louis Jolyon West was cleared at Top Secret for his work on MKULTRA.

West’s numerous connections to the mind control network illustrate how the network is maintained—not through any central conspiracy, but by an interlocking network of academic relationships, grants, conferences, and military appointments. Some doctors in the network were not funded directly by the CIA or military, but their work was of direct relevance to mind control, non-lethal weapons development, creation of controlled dissociation and the building of Manchurian Candidates.”

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Further, “Dr. West devoted four decades to study, writing and experimentation on dissociation, hypnosis, Communist mind control, hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, and methods of social influence; he concluded that the methods used by destructive cults result in the creation of new identities and dissociative states.

West was a consultant on such cases as the Charles Manson Helter Skelter Murders, Robert Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan, David Koresh of the Waco massacre, and Timothy McVeigh of the Oklahoma City Bombing.

It has also been rumored that after Heaven’s Gate cult leader Marshall Applewhite graduated from a college in Austin, Texas, he went to UCLA to be treated with aversion therapy in order to cure his homosexual tendencies.

It was soon after that he began claiming that he and partner Bonnie Nettles were hybrid alien evangelists Ti and Do.

After Nettles died, Applewhite became the leader of the Heaven’s Gate, UFO/Alien Cult and convinced the 39 of his followers that he was an extra-terrestrial hybrid messiah and that in order for them to perfect themselves, they would have to shed their human containers and join him as he was about to connect with Evolutionary level Above human. The “Heaven’s Gate” cult committed suicide from almost exactly the 33°30′N latitude in “Rancho Santa Fe,” north of San Diego.

Three members of the Heaven’s Gate “away team” worked for Advanced Development Group (ADG), Inc., a company that developed computer-based instruction for the US Army, DARPA and the office of Naval Intelligence. ADG later became ManTech Advanced Development Group. Their jobs were to create war game programs which included scenarios for alien attacks from space. A division of Advanced Intelligence group also provided alien space ship effects for Lucas film.

The members of the Heaven’s gate cult had no weapons, and did not have any aspirations to save the world. However their ties to the Military and Naval Research Office are a bizarre connection. Especially, if you go back in history to the so-called alien crash at Roswell.

Commander George W. Hoover was long associated with the U.S. Office of Naval Research. He was also a space program pioneer and innovator of numerous avionic and astronautical devices. Hoover was a leading consultant to organizations including NASA (providing human standards development for Apollo) General Dynamics, McDonnell Douglas and Curtis Wright. He knew Werner Von Braun and was believed to be one of the many military personally that inspected the crashed saucer at Roswell.

Edit I have an aversion myself to phrases its rumoured..and name dropping..however thats why JJ you can hose this one and see what we have left is worthy of pursuit..

Now Jeffery Lash the man who was found dead and was said to be a human alien hybrid is the only son of the late Joseph Lash who died in 2010. Joseph lash began his career in microbiology and chemistry when he was an aviator in the United States Navy.

In July 1947, he became part of a research team that was assembled by the office of naval research to investigate the recovered flying disc at Roswell New Mexico. Perhaps this where his ideas of being an alien hybrid came from, that is if he had those ideas—or if someone else had planted them into his head.

There is no proof that he is an alien hybrid; no DNA tests were conducted and so far no one has determined how the alien story took wings in the media. Meanwhile, there is an unexplained money trail, a cache of weapons, and all of these utility vehicles ready for the alien apocalypse.


http://www.ibtimes.com/x-files-revival-update-filming-starts-june-8-celebrated-writers-return-1905849 x files crew remakers fox had a lot of activities during june-august 2015 shooting in Vancouver mostly..still looking at other shooting locations that busy period.

sidenote; The daily had a decent..article back in 2012 of individuals alleging hybridicity and or abduction sharing their story.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2137449/The-real-life-X-Files-Meet-people-abducted-aliens.html






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« Reply #92 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 11:28pm »

Thanks for following and sharing info about the Lash case, Sys. Am I correct that authorities have still not published conclusive info about how such a large stash of cash and weapons ended up in his possession? That item is a stickler.

My experience with Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero is that he gets a bit overzealous and his sources must be confirmed. In one instance in particular, the 2004 Casselberry, FL alleged UFO crash, he assigned high credibility to some sources that I later found much less reliable (or even willing to provide statements, for that matter) than he. I also found the overall case to represent circumstances much different than Mr. Lewis concluded: I found a hoax perpetrated from several sources and based on an event that did actually initially happen (but could not be demonstrated to have anything to do with UFOs), while he concluded a crashed saucer was extensively covered up by authorities. I just couldn't justify the conclusion he supported.

But here's the thing... There was an unusual initial event at the heart of the Casselberry case. He and others were right about that. I obtained a police report confirming it. The trick becomes sorting out where they take off on unsupported tangents and sticking to facts, or at least differentiating between fact and supposition, which most aren't very good at.

So I guess it comes down to fact checking and verifying, which you, Sys, pretty much already knew - ha. On an interesting aside, Applewhite also went to college a while in Alabama, just a few years before Leah Haley attended the same school. She of course went on to suspect herself to be the target of nefarious experiments, some of which she suspects took place during her college years...
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« Reply #93 on: Aug 15th, 2015, 8:51pm »

Thanks JJ!!! this case appears to attempt linkages or readers attempting to link to old goobermin' cases..even the infamous Inslaw murder mystery ..I noted at several sites the whole mk ultra thing which would by their very nature draw in folx interested in conspiracy. I noted also that x files chris carter as well as Fox was interested in drawing people or a generation of viewers that did not get the full exposure to x files.what did catch my interest at the moment was a post at Rigorous Intuition
which pointed out a peculiar phenomenon I experienced first hand during the Drone case, and especially the Al Hilli case.

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39086&start=135
Luposapien » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:12 am wrote:
Regarding the 5-year time regression on Streetview, if you move along a couple blocks in either direction on Palisades, you'll see the capture date revert back to 2012. So, yeah, a bit of scrubbing seems to be going on.


WOW that is exactly what I am seeing right now, everything else is 2012, his WAS 2012 but has suddenly reverted to 2007 while the rest of them remain at 2012. I dont think just anyone can make a change like that, that has to come from the highest levels of whoever is in control of the fucking internet. So we have now confirmed shit is being scrubbed from the internet, this indicates he was in fact working for one of the agencies and wasnt just some eccentric dude living off royalties, there is a concerted effort here to hide things, why I dont know yet but I hope this story doesnt die out, dont let it die out guys/gals, it needs as much attention as we can give it.


This is something that does not necessarily have to be control at the highest..merely who is paying who what to dliver a product , which would include targeted queries and prepositioned photos that can be changed on a whim or request in the best interest of that product, be it a commercial hoax, a movie, a laptop, or a real case involving intel.

Special Shout out !!Thank you google for selling out the truth and proving what whores you really are in either case. grin
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« Reply #94 on: Aug 17th, 2015, 01:31am »

Jeff will go down as a true american original, like the Alamos Davy Crockette, and Daniel Boone..or the Guns of Tobruk..stuff of movies ..1200 guns alone with 2 babes..against an Alien Armada..I can only imagine.
But back to Earth..
I believe its a state law to report or turn in a body..within 8 days...or so..but we can if we feel so inclined for 21 dollars get the informational copy..I am a tad tapped out right now..
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birth...Death-2015.pdf

Ya know its at times like this I get all misty eyed thinking how our true patriot and saviour spent his last moments watching the 4th of July parade and 4k and 10k marathon go by that very day..That is going out with class! Dont ya think?

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Harlan Braun an attorney for Catherine Nebron who was Lash's girlfriend and VadBunker's employee, told KTLA that Nebron said they were all at Bristol Farms on July 4 when Lash collapsed in the parking lot. Lash had been suffering with cancer for a year, reports UPI news. Although they tried to help him he died and they didn't want to notify the authorities because of Lash's human/alien body and his position within the secret agency. They instead put him in his SUV and left it parked in front of his Pacific Palisades home expecting the government to pick him up. They both went to Oregon and when they returned several weeks later, Lash was still in the SUV.
So he didnt die in the SUV but somewhere else..over here but they 3 0r 4 tried cpr or whatever in a car on a hot day with a parade on..carried the corpse to another one while maybe God Bless America was playing..
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a normal mum..would never leave anything out but we have all those tough love mums out there..who knows..

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« Reply #95 on: Aug 17th, 2015, 11:27pm »

This case is truly a circumstance in which we can't really fault anybody for looking for connections to shady intel agency operations. It's built into the original story! ha

All of the discrepancies you point out, Sys... the traffic, the supposed amount of time a corpse sat in a vehicle, the guns, the money, the lack of rhyme or reason... I think we can reasonably safely say about the only thing we know for sure about this story is that there are undisclosed aspects of this story.
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« Reply #96 on: Aug 21st, 2015, 05:13am »

hmm seems they sold their vehicle the 2007 nitro used at beginning of 'disappearance" a few days ago aug 17
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« Reply #97 on: Aug 28th, 2015, 12:56pm »

Uh oh... From Whitley Strieber's Dreamland site (posted today, Friday, August 28... looks like they'll have the recording up later):


Linda Moulton Howe Breaks the Jonathan Lash Case!

Linda Moulton Howe reports on the bizarre life and death of "Jonathan Lash" who claimed to be an alien-human hybrid and who died in the parking lot of the grocery store Whitley Strieber uses every few days. Lash died in the parking lot of a grocery store in Santa Monica, whereupon his girlfriend took him to a distant location where his body was found by police 12 days later. He was discovered to have $230,00 in cash, thousands of weapons, tons of ammunition and a number of cars, including one that had been modified to travel under water. It was claimed that he had said that he was an alien/human hybrid working for the NSA.

But what's the REAL story? Is it that bizarre...or even more bizarre? There was an 11 minute report on Coast to Coast last night. Listen here to the incredible story as it unfolds in all it's bizarre detail over a full hour! And listen to Whitley Strieber ask the question: why in my back yard?

Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/linda-moulton-howe-breaks-jonathan-lash-case#ixzz3k8LUdLiz
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« Reply #98 on: Aug 29th, 2015, 02:45am »

This S^^^ is funny as all heck..You cant find the guys name at the LA coroners list of deaths for July 4. I have been spending a lot of time at websleuths where I posted the Earth files interview and the Coroners list. In summary Dawn who disappeared to Oregon allegedly with her Boss the common law partner of Jeff Lash or Alien bob (lev would love this by the way) has not been in physical contact with her adopted parents the Vadbunkers, and laura Vadbunker, the mum gave that interview.
This entire group believes in endtimes of 2023..something Lev pushed frequently..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?285967-CA-Jeffrey-Alan-Lash-Police-Discover-1200-Guns-in-Dead-Man-s-Home-July-2015/page44

Someone who knew jeff the eccentric millionnaire
http://www.kfiam640.com/onair/john-and-ken-37487/the-incredibly-bizarre-tale-of-jeffrey-13792109/

letters from Dawn

a fellow sleuther noted immediately that the envelope was dated july 16 from sacramento and not Oxnard or Oregon where one would expect her to be.
the content narrative points to the mindset of a true believer..one can surmise they all were..but I think his money played a large part of this..if this is real at all..
I must admit Linda finally gave a thorough Interview..
and it is certainly bizarre.
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During this August 11, 2015, interview, neither Laura nor I knew what would unfold on August 27, 2015, with KTLA-TV in Los Angeles revealing that the third person in the SUV while Jeffrey Lash was dying was Catherine Nebron's ex-husband, dentist Phillip Gorin. Gorin also got dental records of Jeffrey Lash to the L. A. coroner's office from which confirmation was made that the dead man in the SUV was in fact Jeffrey Alan Lash.]

I don’t have his name, nor would I want to ruin his career because the poor man — that’s the one they are talking about that had the medical knowledge. And he (Jeffrey Lash) would not go to medical doctors. He only believed in naturopaths — so it would be healers and chiropractors would be the only ones he would go to.

And what happened was, I believe, from what was said that he had a seizure. And he got over-heated and they worked on him for three hours. He dies.

DID HE DIE IN THE CHIROPRACTOR’S OFFICE?

He died in the SUV.

WERE THEY WORKING ON HIM IN THE CAR?

In the car. He never went out of the car.

SO THE CHIROPRACTOR WAS THERE WHEN HE DIED.

I believe so.

THAT’S CATHERINE NEBRON; YOUR DAUGHTER, DAWN MARIE; AND THIS CHIROPRACTOR, WHO IS CURRENTLY UNNAMED, WHO WAS IN THE SUV FOR 3 HOURS TRYING TO SAVE HIM.

Right.



Cause of Jeffrey Lash's Death?

WHAT WAS THE DESCRIPTION THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO JEFFREY LASH PHYSICALLY JUST BEFORE HE DIED? WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO HIS BODY?

Depends on what story you believe — the poison one, right? The brain infection one? Or the cancer one? Who knows? I don’t know what he had.


[ Editor's Note: According to U. K.'s The Guardian, Catherine Nebron was told that Jeffrey Lash's disease was the result of chemical weapons exposure on a CIA mission. According to the Los Angeles police, Lash had cancer.]

THERE HAS BEEN NO CORONER’S REPORT TO DATE BY AUGUST 11TH. 2015?

Right. Don’t you find that really quite interesting – ‘undetermined’ (cause of death)?


[ Editor's Note: As of August 27, 2015, the coroner was still saying that cause of death was undetermined.]

YES, AND I AM ASSUMING THAT THERE HAS BEEN EVERY EFFORT TO DO DNA ANALYSIS TO SEE FOR SOMEBODY IF THIS GUY WAS AN E. T.-HUMAN HYBRID.

Well, I don’t think the police would think of that. But I do think the government would think of that. So, what happened when he died?

My understanding is that Catherine drove him back home, left him in the car (SUV). He was wrapped in a blanket and dry ice around him.

AND THAT IMPLIES THAT CATHERINE NEBRON WAS ANTICIPATING SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEED TO PRESERVE HIS BODY WITH DRY ICE.

Right!

WHERE IS THE SOURCE OF THE DETAIL THAT HIS BODY WAS PACKED IN DRY ICE?

That came from an undisclosed location from a police officer.

OK, IT CAME FROM A POLICE OFFICER.

Yes. Ma’am.

I’M GOING TO ASSUME THAT (REPORT) IS REAL AND ADDS TO THE IMPLICATION THAT OF …

That’s true and it would be written down, yeah.

AND CATHERINE NEBRON WAS FULLY WITTING ABOUT TRYING TO ONE, KEEP HIM ALIVE; AND TWO, WHEN HE DIED TO PACK HIM IN DRY ICE BECAUSE SHE EITHER HAD FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OR ASSUMED THAT THE CIA THAT SHE HAS NAMED WOULD BE COMING TO GET HIS BODY THAT WAS HUMAN-E.T. HYBRID?

Absolutely! And this is what she (Catherine) has claimed all along. She has never changed her story. But she didn’t tell the whole story at first. But when I started talking, she told the story.


Although there are several dry icemakers in the area the closest on to the parking lot where died..and they deliver..it would be strange that the drivers did not report anything peculiar going on..The closest on Discount ice was only 2 mins away..howver on sat July 4th it was closed..

http://www.yellowpages.com/santa-monica-ca/mip/aa-best-discount-shredding-of-santa-monica-463428705
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« Reply #99 on: Aug 29th, 2015, 10:57am »

Wow! Thanks, Sys. It is indeed a weird story and a tiger by the tail when LMH is closer to center!
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« Reply #100 on: Aug 29th, 2015, 11:05am »

on Aug 29th, 2015, 10:57am, jjflash wrote:
Wow! Thanks, Sys. It is indeed a weird story and a tiger by the tail when LMH is closer to center!


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IN VARIOUS NEWSPAPERS FROM THE L. A. TIMES TO THE DAILY MAIL IN THE U. K., THERE HAS BEEN A DISTRIBUTION OF A PHOTOGRAPH THAT THEY ARE IDENTIFYING AS JEFFREY LASH THAT THEY SAY IS A 1996 DRIVER’S LICENSE AND HE’S DARK-HAIRED, DARK BROWS, PERHAPS BLUE EYES.

Correct. A beautiful sky blue and very inviting. Something you would remember. His hair was thin, but he had hair and it was brown. I would imagine at one time he would look good.
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BUT WHEN YOU MET HIM, HE LITERALLY COULD NOT MOVE?

He could not move. He had to be lifted by two people and put in a car to be moved from that car.

IN VARIOUS NEWSPAPERS FROM THE L. A. TIMES TO THE DAILY MAIL IN THE U. K., THERE HAS BEEN A DISTRIBUTION OF A PHOTOGRAPH THAT THEY ARE IDENTIFYING AS JEFFREY LASH THAT THEY SAY IS A 1996 DRIVER’S LICENSE AND HE’S DARK-HAIRED, DARK BROWS, PERHAPS BLUE EYES.

Correct. A beautiful sky blue and very inviting. Something you would remember. His hair was thin, but he had hair and it was brown. I would imagine at one time he would look good.

BUT WHEN YOU MET HIM, HE LITERALLY COULD NOT MOVE?

He could not move. He had to be lifted by two people and put in a car to be moved from that car.

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on Aug 29th, 2015, 11:05am, SysConfig wrote:
IN VARIOUS NEWSPAPERS FROM THE L. A. TIMES TO THE DAILY MAIL IN THE U. K., THERE HAS BEEN A DISTRIBUTION OF A PHOTOGRAPH THAT THEY ARE IDENTIFYING AS JEFFREY LASH THAT THEY SAY IS A 1996 DRIVER’S LICENSE AND HE’S DARK-HAIRED, DARK BROWS, PERHAPS BLUE EYES.

Correct. A beautiful sky blue and very inviting. Something you would remember. His hair was thin, but he had hair and it was brown. I would imagine at one time he would look good.

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Beautiful Sky Blue Eyes..err ok cool


Yup, that guy approaches me in LA, I'm immediately thinkin' alien. No doubt about it. The beautiful sky blue eyes give the hybrids away every time. That, and the car trunk weighed down so heavily with guns that the wheel wells scrape the tires.
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on Aug 29th, 2015, 12:11pm, jjflash wrote:
Yup, that guy approaches me in LA, I'm immediately thinkin' alien. No doubt about it. The beautiful sky blue eyes give the hybrids away every time. That, and the car trunk weighed down so heavily with guns that the wheel wells scrape the tires.


By golly JJ I don't think even the police had thought of that!
So busy following money they forgot all about those cars all over LA gun running..14 was the tip of the iceberg!
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« Reply #103 on: Aug 30th, 2015, 05:07am »

Can it get any more suspicious?? You guys are on a roll/flying high! Definitely a discombobulating tale...

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