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« Reply #1 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 10:55am »

SYMPOSIUM SCHEDULE

DAY 1
Thursday, August 25th



7:15 a.m. .......................................... FI Training Registration Opens
7:45 a.m. - 5:30 p.m. .................... Field Investigator Training (paid separately)
8 a.m. - 5 p.m. ................................ NASA/KSC Tour (lunch included)


Day 2
Friday August 26



7:30am .......................................... Registration Opens
8am - 5pm .................................... NASA/KSC Tour (lunch included)
9am - 3pm .................................... State Directors meeting
Noon - 4pm ...................................Board Meeting
2pm - 3pm .................................... Press Conference
5pm - 6pm .................................... Benefactor Reception
6pm - 7pm .................................... No Host Reception

7pm - 10pm .................................. Dinner Banquet & Keynote Address


Day 3
Saturday August 27



8am - 9:30am .............................. Experiencer Workshop - hosted by Denise Stoner
9am ................................................. Symposium Opening and Welcome
9:10am - 10:10am ....................... Richard Thieme "Against the Wind: Why People Can't Think Seriously About UFOs"
10:25am - 11:25am ...................... Erling Strand "The Hessdalen Phenomena and Project Hessdalen"
11:40am - 12:40pm ..................... Kathleen Marden "UFOs: Two Sides to Every Story"
12:40pm - 2:15pm ........................ OPEN LUNCH
12:40pm - 2:15pm (Private Speaker Panel #1 - "Life in Space" - with "Erling Strand, Bill Schroeder, Alejandro Rojas, David Marler, Robert Powell, and John Greenewald." - Ticket Required)
2:30pm - 4pm ............................. Robert Powell "MUFON's Top 10 UFO Cases from 2015"
4:15pm - 5:15pm .......................... John Greenewald "FOIA - UFOs and our Space Agencies"
5:15pm - 6:45pm ......................... OPEN DINNER
6:45pm - 7:45pm ........................ Rich Hoffman "2013 Aguadilla Puerto Rico UAP Case"
8:00pm - 9:00pm ..................... Bill Schroeder "UFOs Over Florida, The 1967 Flap"


Day 4
Sunday August 28



8am - 9:30am ............................. Experiencer Workshop - hosted by Denise Stoner
8:45am - 9:45am ........................ Cheryl Costa "200 Years of UFOs Over New York"
10:00am - 11:00am ................... Ben Moss / Tony Angiola "The Socorro New Mexico, Lonnie Zamora Incident: Evidence of a Non-Human Event"
11:15am - 12:15pm ........................Alejandro Rojas "Official Government UFO Organizations"
12:15pm - 1:45pm ........................ OPEN LUNCH
12:15pm - 1:45pm (Private Speaker Panel #2 - "Disclosure and Contact" (with "Paola Harris, Cheryl Costa, Ben Moss, Tony Angiola and Kathleen Marden" - Ticket Required)
1:45pm - 2:45pm ........................ David Marler "The Flying Saucer Invasion of 1950 - Farmington, NM and Beyond"
3:00pm - 4:00pm ..................... Paola Harris "From Our Oceans to Outer Space: An International Perspective on Astronaut Testimonies about Space Travel and Underwater Bases"
5:00pm ......................................... Symposium Closing


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« Reply #2 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 10:57am »

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Panel of six speakers, left to right: Erling Strand, Robert Powell, Bill Schroeder, David Marler, John Greenwald, and Alexander Rojas

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« Reply #5 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 11:02am »

Here's what it's like to be a UFO investigator in Florida


By Monivette Cordeiro
Mon, Aug 29, 2016

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Hundreds of people descended into Lake Buena Vista last weekend to talk aliens at a symposium for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), an organization that scientifically investigates and collects data on UFO sightings and other phenomena.

While some people scoff at the notion of otherworldly beings, many are interested and they're not all wearing tin foil hats or running weird shows on the History Channel.

Orlando Weekly talked to Morgan Beall, the Florida state director for MUFON, about the kinds of things he sees when he's investigating the weird parts of the Sunshine State that don't involve the Florida man.

OW: Does Orlando have a high propensity for UFOs?
Beall:
Orlando, along with the rest of Florida, has actually had quite a few sightings compared to other states. On average we get about 30 to 40 cases a month from Florida alone. We get combination cases of someone seeing a strange object and then possibly something unexplainable, like the abduction phenomenon people talk about or something crawling around or walking around on the ground thatís associated with the flying objects. Do we know what those are? Are they aliens or not? We donít know. We just know thereís a phenomenon that weíre trying to scientifically study. Mainly, it's objects in the sky we canít explain.

OW: Why do you think Florida is such a hotspot for those sightings?
Beall:
The water is a good reason. Florida, as you know, has one of the longest coastlines of any state in the U.S. Thereís a lot of open skies, and people go outside a lot. Weíre a tourist destination for the rest of the country, so a lot of people tend to gravitate to our beaches, which translates to higher counts of cases.

OW: What has been an interesting case youíve heard of this year?
Beall:
This is a Canadian case, but it was worked on by our stateside investigators. An engineer who runs an engineering company was on a hunting trip along with his colleagues when they saw something very close, a like a metallic-type object, that interfered with their hunting equipment. Their camera systems were shutting down. They saw this object up close, within a few 100 feet. It was definitely not a conventional aircraft of any kind because it didnít have any physical propulsion or propeller or anything. That's something we would classify as a Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

OW: What about in Florida?
Beall:
One of the most interesting things we received this year are some historical pieces from military bases. I worked on a case this past year that dealt with some Navy witnesses. This incident happened on the USS Independence over the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida where they saw a light underneath the ship, and remember this is a large aircraft carrier. A witness described like this: If you put a paperclip in your hand, the USS Independence would be the paperclip and your hand would be the light. Eventually the light went to the front of the ship and pulled out of the water and shot off until it disappeared into the sky. It was impressive to hear this coming from military personnel. Another very interesting case off the coast of Florida involved the U.S. Coast Guard. They saw a small, silver disc come out of the water near their ship and pick up their buoy, which they were dragging behind the ship. Another famous case is from 1989 at the Miami International Airport. Two flights nearly collided with this boomerang-shaped aircraft hovering over the tarmac and all the ground personnel, the traffic operators, pilots and all these witnesses never talked about because the tower manager told everybody to keep their mouths shut. We found two witnesses that eventually came and talked to us: A radio operator who heard the whole incident happen over the radio and a tower operator who had second-hand counsel on the incident.

OW: Whatís it like an investigator?
Beall:
Well, itís certainly not glamorous. And itís a lot of work. Depending on the research youíre doing, you could be doing historical document research and archives, which is arduous and academic. You could be part of the analysis teams that look and extrapolate data. A few of us do actual interviews and look at the trace evidence, following up on leads. Thereís a lot of different roles in the organization. Weíre all volunteers. I do this on my time off. I have a day job, and then I have this job.

OW: What do you hear from people? Do you get hate online?
Beall:
Oh, of course. I mean, you have people that like the phenomena, and they're interested in it, but are constantly trolling other individuals online just because they think itís funny. Itís OK to be skeptical, actually. We encourage it. We want people to ask questions, we want them to test the hypothesis, but there are people we call pseudo skeptics or cynics who donít want to believe. I think belief is the wrong word because itís not so much about believing. We try to question everything, look at all the facts and then we learn from it at the end.

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/08/29/heres-what-its-like-to-be-a-ufo-investigator-in-florida

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 11:04am »

My Comments

Did not attend Thursday or Friday. I've already toured NASA and KSC several times.

All of the speakers were interesting, but what really impressed me were the following:

Erling Strand, speaking about the Hessdalen Phenomena. They are continuing research into this--it sounds fascinating.

Robert Powell's commentary about the top 10 MUFON cases from 2015 was good.

My buddy, Bill Schroeder gave an excellent presentation on the military radar incidents of 1967. At the time, Bill was running a Army air defense missile control radar unit in Key West and his cousin, Dennis was running an Air Force radar unit at Homestead Air Base outside Miami. 8 blips penetrated the Dew Line and came down the east coast of the U.S. at speeds approaching 5,000mph. 4 slowed down and set up a rectangular "search pattern" near Miami. The other 4 made a right turn, went over the Gulf south of Everglades Park and set up a rectangular pattern there. Needles to say, NORAD was going crazy. A Phantom jet was scrambled, approached the 4 by Miami; the 4 suddenly disappeared and the Phantom's radar was inexplicitly shut down. As the Phantom returned to base, past the other 4 near the Everglades, THEY disappeared and Bill's radar was shut down. When the Phantom landed, all 8 reappeared and headed south toward Cuba. They found out two days later that Cuba scrambled a Mig that same night. It approached the blips and suddenly, the entire Mig shut down, radar, engines, everything. Before the pilot could eject, the plane disintegrated, killing the pilot. There is a new book out about this incident called "Unknown Down". The author is Jack Roth. The reason for the title is that there is speculation that the blips were searching for a lost comrade. Thus, the search patterns.

The other speakers that really impressed me were Ben Moss and Tony Angiola. You would not believe the on-going research they are doing on the Socorro, New Mexico/Lonnie Zamora Incident! They had videos, interviews, and information on evidence.

All in all, I had a great time. Got to see some old friends and meet some new ones. The facility was nice. The turn-out was excellent--over 500 people.

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« Reply #7 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 12:28pm »

This is very interesting.

Up to now, I never had the time to go to one of these meetings.

But in my old age I am starting to work less and less, so maybe in the future.

Just curious Swamprat, what was the age of the crowd ?
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 2:32pm »

I would say the average was well over 50!
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 3:24pm »

on Aug 31st, 2016, 2:32pm, Swamprat wrote:
I would say the average was well over 50!


Looks like a lot more than before.but hardly any young bucks..sad
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 10:14pm »

I guess the young are not interested in UFOs, only in pokemon and Iphones.

When us older folk die off, no one will be interested, unless a UFO lands at the White House.
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on Aug 31st, 2016, 10:14pm, Nyx wrote:
I guess the young are not interested in UFOs, only in pokemon and Iphones.

When us older folk die off, no one will be interested, unless a UFO lands at the White House.

Seniors are a huge growing group ...those others will come around soon enough wink
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 5:14pm »

One other thing that I forgot to mention: Teri Lynge is quite active in Florida Mufon. She works with the State Director, Morgan Beale, as well as with several State Section Directors.

She was flabbergasted to receive a marriage proposal at the Symposium! (She said YES!) and they got a standing ovation!



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« Reply #13 on: Sep 24th, 2016, 06:36am »

on Aug 31st, 2016, 10:14pm, Nyx wrote:
I guess the young are not interested in UFOs, only in pokemon and Iphones.

When us older folk die off, no one will be interested, unless a UFO lands at the White House.


Make UFO investigation more like a game, add some actual educational material, allow them to come with new ideas and the young will come. No need everything to be too pathetic.

Great posts, Swamprat. Love the Marc's models. Thanks smiley
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 24th, 2016, 09:26am »

You are most welcome, Stiver! And Welcome to Casebook!

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