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« Thread started on: Sep 15th, 2010, 2:11pm »

When I see news stories (almost always "News of the Weird") about a UFO sighting, I invariably come here to see what the hubbub's about. I know we have a latest sightings section, but nothing that entails sightings through the news media filter.

So, for good or bad, here we go with our first story from Florida.

Strange lights spotted over SWFL coast

http://www.abc-7.com/Global/story.asp?S=13156353

Posted: Sep 15, 2010 3:52 AM PDT
Updated: Sep 15, 2010 06:52 AM EDT


FORT MYERS BEACH: Several residents reported seeing some strange yellow lights off Southwest Florida's coast Tuesday evening.

The U.S. Coast Guard says they were notified - after the fact - that the Air Force was conducting a "flare exercise" offshore and that was the source of the lights.

Rusty Parham, who witnessed the light show over Fort Myers Beach, said that explanation didn't fly with him.

"I don't understand why you'd be in that formation doing drills, and another thing I don't understand is why you'd be doing that off the coast, where everybody could see you in South Florida," he said.

Witnesses said the lights lasted for several minutes.

"When it came back in the circular motion, I was like, 'What could this be?'" said Jennifer Parham.

To see footage of the lights, click on the video player above.

- video can be seen on link

Since I'm at work, I have not yet listened to the audio on the video from the link. But I do wonder whether flares would look like that. I saw the way the flares appeared in the Phoenix Lights episode. These seem a little different. Hey, I could be wrong. Lord knows how many times I've been wrong before.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 15th, 2010, 4:04pm »

Great idea Reasoner.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 16th, 2010, 12:02pm »

So it's supposed to have been those tricky flares again. rolleyes

BTW good idea for a blog. smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 28th, 2010, 10:17pm »

Well, it's been quiet in here, so I wanted to make two remarks for my little nook of "news":

1) Feel free to post any news articles you find on UFOs here. I'd hope that you include a link to the actual site where you found it, and the text in verbatim. Add pictures if you like tongue

Personally, I kept the text from the articles in green to differentiate from anything I wanted to add... so this would keep people from getting confused what is reported and any interpretations you might have of the report you just posted.

2) Also, for days I scoured the web looking to see if there were any updates to the top story I posted. There were none. What sort of inference could one draw from this?

- the media wanted to publish it because it was sensationalistic, but after further investigation, it wasn't even remotely credible (or)
- the media wanted to publish it because it was sensationalistic, but the government shut them down
- that there were only two witnesses, even with video, it's hard to confirm what happened and where
- what happened to the entirety of the video? all various news agencies pointed only to this one page as source.
- I noticed that the story was posted, and there was one edit. What was the story pre-edit?
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 28th, 2010, 10:19pm »

One other thing. The Salas et. al. conference is fairly big news. There have been plenty of articles written about it before it transpired and a couple after, but most all of these have already been covered up above in the disclosure Interviews, Conferences, Radio Shows section, so I'm not even bothering with putting them here. just an FYI
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 29th, 2010, 07:31am »

on Sep 28th, 2010, 10:17pm, Reasoner wrote:
Well, it's been quiet in here, so I wanted to make two remarks for my little nook of "news":

1) Feel free to post any news articles you find on UFOs here. I'd hope that you include a link to the actual site where you found it, and the text in verbatim. Add pictures if you like tongue

Well, it was most likely that silent because everybody thought that this would be your personal blog and nobody wanted to hijack it. wink
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 13th, 2010, 9:37pm »

Today's awesome news brought to you from NY, NY

Mystery shiny objects floating over Manhattan spark UFO frenzy

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/13/2010-10-13_mystery_shiny_objects_floating_over_manhattan_spark_ufo_frenzy.html

BY OREN YANIV, ROCCO PARASCANDOLA AND LUKAS I. ALPERT
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Wednesday, October 13th 2010, 5:58 PM


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A mysterious shiny object floating high over Manhattan's West Side set off a flurry of reports and wild speculation Wednesday that a UFO was flying over the city.

Police and the FAA said they began getting flooded with calls starting at 1:30 p.m. from people reporting a silvery object hovering high over Chelsea.

Law enforcement sources said they believed the object was likely some sort of balloon, but as of late Wednesday they had not confirmed exactly what it is.

A Daily News reporter could see a tiny, silver dot floating approximately 5,000 feet above 23th St. and Eighth Ave., where dozens of people gathered late in the afternoon to catch a glimpse.

"It's been hovering there for a while. I'm just kind of baffled," said Joseph Torres, 49, of Dyker Heights, Brooklyn, who spotted the object after leaving a movie. "How can it be ordinary? There is something going on."

Despite clear skies, it was not easy to make out the tiny object shimmering overhead.

"You really have to look up to see it," said one witness, who gave only his first name, Rico. "It's a little crazy. I guess that's why they call it an unidentified flying object because they don't know what it is."

Not long after the first sightings, messages began appearing on Twitter linking to a month-old press release announcing the publication of a book by a retired NORAD officer predicting that UFOs would buzz the earth's major cities on Oct. 13.

The Federal Aviation Administration said it received several calls to its operations center but after reviewing radar data, the agency could not find anything out of the ordinary.

"We re-ran radar to see if there was anything there that we can't account for but there is nothing in the area," said spokesman Jim Peters. "There was some helicopter traffic over the river at that time and we checked with LaGuardia Tower. And they said they had nothing going low at that time."

"Nothing that we can account for would prompt this kind of response," he said.

Peters said if it was a weather balloon or any kind of organized balloon release, authorities should have been notified in advance. Police officials said they had received no notification.


Looks interesting, and many observers in broad daylight.

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« Reply #7 on: Oct 13th, 2010, 9:47pm »

Follow-up article on Huffington Post mentions that they are reportedly balloons.

New York UFO Sighting?

First Posted: 10-13-10 04:47 PM | Updated: 10-13-10 05:43 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/13/new-york-ufo-sighting_n_761717.html

New Yorkers are certainly a savvy bunch, which is why it's surprising that there is a lot of chatter on Twitter right now about an alleged UFO sighting in the city. While there's been no documentation, it hasn't stopped thousands of twitterers from postulating. This website claims all the hooplah is in reference to a retired NORAD general predicting a UFO visit on October 13, 2010.

UPDATE:
Twitter user jensenmatchett says the UFOs were actually balloons.

UPDATE:
HuffPostNY follower JWags confirms seeing "dozens of silver objects hovering over Manhattan from my office at around 1230."

UPDATE: More 'evidence' released.

UPDATE: Via commenter Matt Ganzak


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« Reply #8 on: Mar 4th, 2011, 1:31pm »

I thought I'd supply a different kind of link for this post, one about using caution and critical analysis when examining evidence found on the web. The link is a very basic primer on thinking about the presentation of evidence provided from a web page or web site:
http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/special_initiatives/wa_resources/wa_shared/tipsheets/deconstructing_webpages.cfm

It uses that familiar exercise of prompting the reader to think "Who/What/When/Where/Why".

That's it. Nothing too fancy. But how many times do posters either link to evidence that wouldn't pass our basic 5Ws test or accept what someone else has posted as evidence to be truth without following up themselves? I might really value the opinions of most of the posters and webizens of this site, but I'm still going to review what they say and the links they provide, mulling it over myself before I accept it into my own world view.

I might agree with a poster 19 times out of 20, but on that 20th time, I may think they've missed the boat on an issue or think they've used some faulty logic in their post. Maybe I'll attempt to rebut it, even though I hold my fellow Casebook user in high esteem. Debate is not a mean-spirited or divisive tool meant to tear down other people (when done on-topic and with as little inflammatory rhetoric as possible). I might not understand something, or maybe they posted a bad link, or maybe I'm right and through debate, I give them pause.

We view skepticism as being denial. It is NOT the same thing. It is the same mistake that creationists and intelligent design believers attribute to "science" - that science is just an alternate belief system. It is NOT. It is a tool, a methodology. Always be healthily skeptical! Kick the evidence around... look for the illusion or trick first, and if the evidence passes that test, your enquiry might help strengthen your belief of a thing. As well, talking about how you applied tests to your possible convictions may be far more persuasive than simply asserting some thing to be.

No?

Well. In other news, there is no news, at least as I've seen in mainstream media. I wonder, why this dearth of news? Have false reports been quietly examined and taken down ignomiously? Or has there been some sort of strengthening of "secure channels"? Where late last year there was a spate of sightings mentioned in mainstream news, now there is nothing. It could be the novelty wore off, or it could be a sign of the intellectual incuriosity of MSM that fails to follow up. Or do you think something more sinister could explain it?

Enough of my non-evidentiary musings. Future input will be strictly on reporting once more.

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« Reply #9 on: Mar 4th, 2011, 1:49pm »

That's a good and useful article, Reasoner. Thanks.

I'd say that stories about Charlie Sheen or LiLo are taking too much airtime at the moment. But at least the Jerusalem-hoax and the alleged CGI hoax-video from Brazil about an UFO hiding in the cloud made it into the news.

The UFO-field is so muddy that it's sometimes hard to tell what's true and what's not. Unfortunately there are too many folks who use to jump on a bandwagon immediately without asking any questions.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 4th, 2011, 3:43pm »

Hey, philliman.

It's funny how I mentioned the dearth of news, and lo and behold, up jumps the UFO from Brazil...

I immediately get ready to copy and paste into my corner of the Casebook, and I see YOUR message about it being possibly a CGI hoax. I guess I'll just have to be behind the times and put in what's up on Fox News. And then start digging around for those follow-up articles.

Feel free to add what you will to this story directly in my post sequence! smiley

'UFO' Lights Up Brazil Skies
Published March 01, 2011 | FoxNews.com


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/01/ufo-lights-brazilian-skies/?intcmp=obnetwork

A UFO spied in the skies over Sao Paulo has all of Brazil buzzing.
The amateur footage, shown on Brazilian TV station G1, shows blurry footage of a disc-shaped object hovering in the clouds for a minute or so -- before disappearing in a bright flash of light, followed by a trail of colorful bursts.
But is it an alien visitation, or merely the latest in a storied tradition of forgeries?
G1's anchors explain that two passersby saw the object as they were driving in their car, near the town of Agudos in Sao Paulo state. They hopped out of the car to shoot the video with their handheld camera.
According to the TV station, the cinematographers reported the earth shaking at about the same time the object vanishes in a blast of light, noting that other people reported the earth moving in the same general area.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey's Earthquake Hazards Program, there have been no earthquakes in the area. Chile was rocked by a few earthquakes in recent days, notably a 6.8 magnitude temblor on February 11.
Video-editing expert Philip Cavaca told G1 that the film was a well-made montage -- but a hoax nonetheless.
"It can be seen in one frame," he told the station. "When the truck goes by, you can tell that the UFO was moved, which is un-noticeable to the naked eye," he said. According to Cavaca, by freezing the image you can see the exact frame in which the "UFO" alters.
The station did not reveal the identity of the videographers, but did say that the video was the talk of the town in Sao Paulo.
Watch the UFO video and judge for yourself at G1.globo.com.

http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2011/02/video-com-objeto-estranho-no-ceu-causa-polemica-no-interior-de-sp.html

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 14th, 2011, 4:18pm »

Hi all. This is from 2007. Nothing new, but it tickled me, so I decided to post it. It's probably buried somewhere in the vaults of the Casebook...

I touched a UFO: ex-air force pilot

http://www.smh.com.au/news/unusual-tales/call-for-inquiry-as-pilot-says-he-touched-one/2007/11/13/1194766648633.html?page=fullpage

November 13, 2007 - 2:16PM

A group of former pilots who have recounted seeing strange phenomena in the sky has demanded the US government reopen an investigation into UFOs.

Several pilots offered dramatic accounts of witnessing UFOs - including a transparent flying disc and a triangular craft with mysterious markings - as they insisted their questions needed to be taken seriously more than 30 years after the US file was closed.

"We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that all UFOs can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms," said Fife Symington, former governor of Arizona and air force pilot who says he saw a UFO in 1997.

"Instead our country needs to reopen its official investigation that it shut down in 1969," Symington said.

"We believe that for reasons of both national security and flight safety, every country should make an effort to identify any object in its airspace," said a statement from the 19 former pilots and government officials from around the world.

The subject of UFOs came up in a recent debate among US presidential candidates, with Democrat Dennis Kucinich saying he once saw a UFO - making him the object of ridicule and jokes by late night television comedians.

Sceptics say UFO sightings are merely aircraft, satellites or meteors re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.

But the retired pilots spoke to a sympathetic audience of UFO "believers" who heard them recall their encounters with seemingly other-worldly objects appearing out of the sky.

"Nothing in my training prepared me for what we were witnessing," said James Penniston, a retired US Air Force pilot, as he described seeing and touching a UFO when he was stationed at a British air base in Woodbridge.

He said he saw an inexplicable triangular craft in a clearing in the woods with "blue and yellow lights swirling around the exterior".

The UFO was "warm to the touch and felt like metal," Penniston said. One side of the craft had pictorial symbols and "the largest symbol was a triangle, which was centred in the middle of the others," he said.

Then after 45 minutes the light from the object "began to intensify" and it then "shot off at an unbelievable speed" before 80 Air Force personnel, he said. "In my logbook, I wrote 'speed: impossible'."

Rodrigo Bravo from Chile's air force said UFOs needed to be studied but lamented that the media often belittle the sightings.

"Sadly the UFO subject has been contaminated with false information, out of touch with reality, provided by unqualified people to the media," Bravo said.

"One of our most important civil aviation cases occurred in 1988, showing that unidentified flying objects can be a danger for air operations," he said.

"A Boeing 737 pilot on a final approach to the runway at the Puerto Montt airport suddenly encountered a large white light surrounded by green and red."

The pilot took a sharp turn to avoid a collision, according to Bravo.

The panel included a former Iranian fighter pilot, Parviz Jafari, who said in 1976 he tried in vain to fire from his jet at an "object which was flashing with intense red, green, orange and blue light" over Tehran.

But when he approached, "my weapons jammed and my radio communications garbled".

A former Air France captain, Jean-Charles Duboc, said in 1994 he and his crew saw "a huge flying disc" near Paris with a diameter of about 300 metres that left no sign on radar.

The disc "became transparent and disappeared in about 10 to 20 seconds," Duboc said.

The former pilot said like other major airlines Air France was mindful of its image and it was difficult to raise the subject of UFOs.

A former official with the Federal Aviation Administration, John Callahan, said government agencies discourage inquiries into UFOs.

"'Who believes in UFOs?' is the kind of attitude of the FAA all the time," he said.

"However, when I asked the CIA person: 'What do you think it was,' he responded 'a UFO'."

When Callahan suggested the government tell Americans about a UFO, the CIA official allegedly told him: "'No way, if we were to tell the American public there are UFOs they would panic."'

AFP


A couple of points
- I think newspaper headlines (and newspaperish headlines on the internet) are hilarious in their attempts to keep word/letter count down and convey certain information
- Who the heck is AFP... is that the Australian Free Press? Reporters share their news so often, it just becomes soup that can't be attributed to anyone
- I've felt for a long time that if we were to use testimony to reveal the presence of actual UFOs, it would be through the testimonies of commercial and military pilots (and other air personnel). Probably a no-brainer, but I'm more likely to believe their accounts.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 15th, 2011, 05:15am »

Thanks a lot, this is all very interesting. Keep up the good work.
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Google "China Syndrome at the WTC" ... http://wtc-chinasyndrome.blogspot.com/
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