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« Reply #15 on: Jun 27th, 2011, 3:54pm »

I'll have to look at Ringwind's links in a bit...

So today, I noticed an odd spot of news with a very nice video.

UFOs spotted over London?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8599547/UFOs-spotted-over-London.html

3:41PM BST 26 Jun 2011

A video of bright disc-shaped objects dashing through the blue skies over central London has been posted on YouTube.

The footage was filmed near the BBC Radio 1 building in Great Portland Street, and shows specks of white light flying at high altitude over the capital.
A larger object then emerges from behind a cloud before vanishing moments later.
The YouTube user who posted the clip online wrote: "Right – took over a week to get it ... but finally managed to get these critters on camera on a clear day, and even get a close-up.
"It seems to be attracting quite a crowd now when they appear. Can anyone explain what on earth these lights are please?"
A separate video posted by the same user, alymc01, is believed to have been shot from inside the offices of a visual effects company called The Mill. The firm creates special effects for the film industry.


Go to the link to watch the video. There's a couple of things that are a bit suspicious about the story. One, the UFOs are pretty damned clear as far as UFO videos go. It's weird to say that makes it suspicious, but when 99% of all other videos out there are too quick, jerky, etc. etc. and then you get these clear, well-framed videos, it's seems too-good-to-be-true hoaxy.

The second suspicious item is that the same user posted a video shot from a special effects company.

Things I like about the video are that the video taker has a relatively steady hand, gets surrounding placemarkers into the scene, and depicts other witnesses noting the action.

I haven't looked at the comments yet, but my initial impression is this is a very well-made effects piece meant to tout a) the budding filmmaker's abilities, b) the effects studio's abilities, or c) a piece of marketing for a product or an upcoming film.

It has a very real-world feel to it, it has enough shaky cam to feel amateur, but enough professionalism to capture all the elements it needs to clearly, and has good surroundings set up (I think the people watching the skies were actors).

But on the off chance this isn't hoaxed, WOW! I'm just not holding my breath. Would love to be pleasantly surprised.
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 27th, 2011, 4:01pm »

I don't think Ringwind's posts are relevant to this thread. Perhaps they should be moved to the Conspiracy section?
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 28th, 2011, 1:27pm »

I fully agree with you here, Reasoner. It seems that this is just another hoax. First if something like that really did happen above London. Wouldn't you think that a lot more people would have come forward and reported that sighting? To my knowledge there was none whatsoever. Then, yeah, it does look like CGI from the first second.

Then there's a vid which has been uploaded days before last friday which also does show alleged orbs above the same building. That kind of activity would have certainly been noticed by many IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt7UAawO1nI&feature=related

Then some people already found out that the CGI-specialists who created these orbs was sloppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_dUUiwMP8&feature=player_embedded

It could be that those guys who have perpetrated all this work for a marketing company called "beam tv". Check out the following link which unfortunately is in spanish but when you take a look at the pic which shows one of the alleged witnesses you may see that this is one and the same guy who works for that company.
http://www.lamentiraestaahifuera.com/2011/06/27/los-ovnis-de-londres-tambin-son-falsos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LaMentiraEstAhiFuera+%28La+mentira+est%C3%A1+ahi+fuera%29
Thanks to a facebook-user for providing this link.

With regards to those who also seem to look up in the sky in the first video. That's easy to achieve. I've already done this by myself and it's acutally quite funny. Take some friends and constantly look up in the sky as if you would watch something. Maybe even point at something there and people will become curious and will also look up to see what you're looking at. Nobody in that vid seems to be stunned by that sighting. They look up and then move on. Simply because they haven't seen anything of interest.

BTW proving that this vid is just another stupid promo-hoax-stunt doesn't disprove that aliens do exist. wink
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 28th, 2011, 3:02pm »

The last item on the BBCs Newsnight program last night (Monday) was a few seconds of the ufos seen over London.

Hardly the kind of thing that Jeremy Paxman is known for showing.

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« Reply #19 on: Jun 28th, 2011, 3:54pm »

Hi Phil, thanks for posting that because I really didn't want to go through all that again. So move along folks, nothing to see here. wink

on Jun 28th, 2011, 3:02pm, HAL9000 wrote:
The last item on the BBCs Newsnight program last night (Monday) was a few seconds of the ufos seen over London.

Hardly the kind of thing that Jeremy Paxman is known for showing.

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Crikey! I missed Newsnight last night but did Paxman REALLY waste air time even mentioning it? Mind you, the BBC building was involved I suppose ... undecided
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 10:18am »

Smersh,

..Mind you, the BBC building was involved I suppose ..

Which seems to be the reason he mentioned it.

Maybe you can see it on BBC Iplayer or some other catch-up service.

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« Reply #21 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 10:29am »

Reasoner,

That Telegraph link doesn't seem to work for either the london or the Sao Palo ufos.
Oddly, the advertising clip runs, but not the video.
But the thumbnail pic indicates that the London one is the same one as was alluded to by Paxman.
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 11:07am »

Not to forget the ABC's (Australian Broadcasting Commission) major UFO hoax a few years back. They seem to get a kick out of UFO hoaxing.... rolleyes

on Jun 28th, 2011, 1:27pm, philliman wrote:
I fully agree with you here, Reasoner. It seems that this is just another hoax. First if something like that really did happen above London. Wouldn't you think that a lot more people would have come forward and reported that sighting? To my knowledge there was none whatsoever. Then, yeah, it does look like CGI from the first second.

Then there's a vid which has been uploaded days before last friday which also does show alleged orbs above the same building. That kind of activity would have certainly been noticed by many IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt7UAawO1nI&feature=related

Then some people already found out that the CGI-specialists who created these orbs was sloppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_dUUiwMP8&feature=player_embedded

It could be that those guys who have perpetrated all this work for a marketing company called "beam tv". Check out the following link which unfortunately is in spanish but when you take a look at the pic which shows one of the alleged witnesses you may see that this is one and the same guy who works for that company.
http://www.lamentiraestaahifuera.com/2011/06/27/los-ovnis-de-londres-tambin-son-falsos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LaMentiraEstAhiFuera+%28La+mentira+est%C3%A1+ahi+fuera%29
Thanks to a facebook-user for providing this link.

With regards to those who also seem to look up in the sky in the first video. That's easy to achieve. I've already done this by myself and it's acutally quite funny. Take some friends and constantly look up in the sky as if you would watch something. Maybe even point at something there and people will become curious and will also look up to see what you're looking at. Nobody in that vid seems to be stunned by that sighting. They look up and then move on. Simply because they haven't seen anything of interest.

BTW proving that this vid is just another stupid promo-hoax-stunt doesn't disprove that aliens do exist. wink
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 2:30pm »

Hey Hal9000.

I tried the link after reading your post, and it didn't load the first time. I tried it a second time and it worked after a slow load. Maybe load issues on that site page (because of the video?). I copied the text body into my post though, which is only slight consolation really. You could prob look at the top google hits for "ufo video over bbc" and see what others are seeing.
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 30th, 2011, 4:19pm »

Reasoner,

Thanks. But I have the clip as posted by the BBC. If it's the same one, as it appears to be. then it doesn't do much for the cause.

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« Reply #25 on: Jul 11th, 2011, 2:34pm »

The captain is abruptly changing course... I'm skipping a news bit and going with a sighting, which should rightly go in the appropriate sub-forum, but hey. Trying to remember details as told to me.

This isn't MY sighting, but rather a coworker-friend who has a passing curiosity of the unidentifiable kind. He was pretty excited to tell me of it when he got into work.

So his story is such:
"I was at Disneyland this weekend, and on Saturday night, I was coming out of the tunnel at the end of the It's a Small World Ride. It was night, and the sky was clear and starry, so I was looking up and admiring it from my boat. I noticed one of the stars was moving, so I pointed it out to my friend. After a bit, we saw several of these moving stars in different areas of the sky. The lights looked exactly like a star, but it was moving fast and erratically, unlike say a satellite or a shooting star. The speed and direction would change.
"I had my Iphone with me, so I recorded it, but later when I checked my Iphone, there was no video for this. I had some videos I recorded earlier and some later, but not this one. I was pretty sure I saved it, as this was a very unusual thing. All in all I was pretty excited about this, and if it weren't for my friend being there, I would have thought myself just seeing things."


He didn't think he would get anything useful on the video anyways, as it was pretty dark, but he thought there would at least BE a video there. He hadn't checked it right away, as he was close to disembarking, and got caught up with other stuff once off, but he kicked himself for not checking soon after.
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 13th, 2011, 12:34pm »

So then there's the possibility that it hasn't been saved. Is there an airport nearby?
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« Reply #27 on: Jul 14th, 2011, 2:38pm »

philliman: So then there's the possibility that it hasn't been saved. Is there an airport nearby?

I'm sorry, philliman. Sometimes I think I speak and write clearly enough, but then discover how I might leave out a vital something when writing up a description, or make some awkward sentence structure that changes the entire context of my intention. See? I don't even know what I just wrote there.

Anyways, No. I've asked him several times, "Are you sure that the video didn't record? Is it on there but saved funny?" And he tells me apologetically, no, he has nothing of it on his iphone. I guess really, the main point of my writing was just a kind of 'Hey! One of my buddies spotted something above Disneyland, so I'll mention it to the folks at UFO CB.' Really, just a testimonial. But maybe I had the sideways hope that people had some peripheral knowledge of other people spotting something strange in the LA area on Saturday night of July 9. Or that someone knew that there was some sort of astronomical event that night and my friend probably spotted that.

As for the airport question, I may be misinterpreting your question, but I'm guessing you want to know if this guy might have mistaken terrestrial aircraft for what he saw, especially as a busy LA airport would have lots of activity in the sky. I asked him about the movement of the "stars", and he noted how odd and erratic the movement was, and that the only way a human aircraft would be able to make those maneuvers would be if the object were to be much closer, say a helicopter that would be stopping and starting and changing speeds and direction suddenly... but it would be obvious and much closer and you wouldn't mistake it for a star.

I don't know if that is helpful or clarifies anything. Really, there's not much that is helpful in the account except a kind of golly gee factor. There's nothing for people to examine, and further questions are going to be indirect, though I will ask them.

I DID go online and tried googling/searching for sightings in the LA area on the 9th, and came up with nothing. There have been a few reported sightings in the LA area in the last month, but nothing really grabbed my attention. I also looked up sightings of the kind that matched my friend's description. One guy talked about seeing in his area (I think it was Missouri?) the kinds of moving stars, and they happened all the time, just as my friend described, but he had no video footage of it. It rather bugs me when people mention they see certain phenomena and don't get people on the bandwagon to record/research it.

And THAT reminds me of how at least one person new to this site actually had mentioned seeing objects a lot and attempted (a bit amateurishly) to record them. I'm realizing someone should have mentioned reporting the sightings to nuforc or some such, getting it officially logged. Should I have my friend do the same?
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« Reply #28 on: Jul 28th, 2011, 3:21pm »

This is definitely stretching the definition of UFO, but here's a different kind of UFO in the news...

Neighbors Want Answers About Low-Flying Plane
Mystery Plane Has Marietta Residents Concerned


http://www.wsbtv.com/news/28686493/detail.html

Posted: 6:44 pm EDT July 27, 2011
Updated: 7:49 pm EDT July 27, 2011


MARIETTA, Ga. -- A low-flying airplane has buzzed a Marietta neighborhood four days in a row, and no one seems to know who it belongs to. Paul Saffold is a pilot with 48 years of experience. He said he can’t think of a reason why a single-engine plane was constantly flying over his neighborhood for days.

Channel 2’s Craig Lucie asked Saffold how long it’s circling in a day. “It’s unusual having lived in the area for 34 years. We see aircraft, but not one circling for days at a time and certainly not in the same path. It’s circling from 9:30 to 1:30 or 2 in the afternoon,” Saffold said. Saffold said he couldn’t get a tail number.

The Federal Aviation Administration said that is what they would need to track it down. An FAA spokesman said they don’t have any record of the plane since it flew just above 1,000 feet, which is below radar coverage. A few residents also called the Cobb County Airport to complain about the plane.

When Lucie contacted them, they said they didn’t have any record of it taking off or landing there. A Dobbins Air Reserve Base spokesman said the plane doesn’t belong to them either. Saffold though thinks someone is not telling the whole story. “Nobody is flying in this airspace without first contacting the Dobbins control tower,” Saffold said. A Dobbins spokesman said they are still investigating to see if the plane entered their air space.

The FAA said the pilot didn’t do anything illegal since the plane was flying above the required 1,000 feet. Other aviation officials said the plane could belong to a law enforcement agency or utility company. Lucie called all of them in the area, but the agencies said it is not their plane. Saffold initially thought it could be someone taking pictures of real estate, but added “who needs four days to take pictures of the same houses?”

Copyright 2011 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


What do you guys think about this? Sorta hilarious... some puzzling things about it, though.
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 4th, 2011, 12:54pm »

Hi all.

This article is old news, but invites a curious question in its very beginning. I don't know who the Times News Service is (yet) or from which country it originates, but it definitely had a seemingly non-probative tone to it. See what you think from this bit...

Baltic Sea UFO creates buzz among UFO enthusiasts following London UFO

http://www.timeswireservice.com/news/Baltic_Sea_UFO_creates_buzz_among_UFO_enthusiasts_following_London_UFO_1312477887/

4 August, 2011

Baltic Sea UFO creates buzz among UFO enthusiasts following London UFO. A group of Swedish sea explorers have reportedly spotted a UFO-like gigantic object on the floor of Baltic Sea. The team under Peter Lindberg was on a mission to salvage the remains of some sunken merchant ships in the sea as the suspected UFO was uncovered.

Mr. Lindberg has posted several images of the object he saw in the depths of the sea on the exploration company’s Web site. The object looks like a flaying saucer, the shape we often conceive as that of the extraterrestrial objects.

According to Lindberg, the surroundings of the UFO had some trails meaning that the object was not static. It might have been rolling on the sea floor for several years.

As well, the object has several damages on it body. The explorers think that the unidentified object might have crumbled into some solid land and moved into the sea.

Meanwhile, Lindberg and team are planning to make a revisit to the area for further investigation. They have gathered up enough funds for another exploration in the area to gauge more details about the hidden UFO.

There are better possibilities that the object might not be a UFO, say many analysts. It might be nothing other than the remnants of some old vessel or anything like that.

However, there are people who sincerely believe that the Baltic Sea object might be a UFO. It might have fallen into the sea or land some centuries back and rolled to the sea.


So MY question is... which London UFO created the former buzz? The one over the BBC (that most here agree was hoaxed) is what I assume. And then, no further reference to it, nor bridge from then to now. Also, I don't like how no "analysts" are cited by name, almost as if they went looking for expert opinions, and found none. These analysts who agree and disagree that this could be a saucer may as well be coworkers around the water cooler that weighed in on the story. A very slapdash news piece, all in all; AND YET this was on google's front page top hits for news pieces. Where does google cast their nets when trawling news?

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Follow-up reading recommended:
- Who are the Times Wire Service
- Who is Peter Lindberg
- When do they plan on further investigating the object
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