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« Reply #12465 on: Mar 28th, 2015, 2:49pm »

PURR,

TO WIT:

""...How about a nice game of chess?...."

INDEED ~ THAT GEOPOLITICAL CHESS GAME IN THE MIDDLE EAST ~ HIGH NOON IN THE WILD M-EAST

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I'M THINKIN THE AYA-TOLDYAS INTENT IS QUITE CLEAR!

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"Seems like Obama is playing a nice game of chess with the King (or Ayatolla) of Persia." I REFERENCE THE ABOVE 500 B.C.E. IMAGE!

ALL ABOUT THOSE PATTERNS AND PROPAGANDA ~ IF ONE COULD SIMPLIFY THIS MATTER TO TWO BOWLS OF DATES...

AN EMPTY BOWL...

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A FULL BOWL...

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SINCE WE ARE INDEED PLAYING THAT ARTFUL/TACTICAL/STRATEGIC GAME OF CHESS LOADED WITH OVERTONES ~ STEEPING WITH UNIQUE AND CREDIBLE ANALYSIS ~ ONE MIGHT BE PRUDENT IN OBSERVING PATTERNS RATHER THAT TALKING POINTS ~ TRIBAL TRUST ~ THEATER SPECIFIC MIND YOU ~ AND THAT LOSS THEREOF WITH ALLIES ~ SHOUTS SIG/INT IN MERELY THEIR ACTIONS OF RECENT IN YEMEN ~ YA KNOW ~ NEED TO KNOW JOE ~ JOE TWASN'T IN THE THE LOOP ~ grin
SOMEONE HERE DID ALLUDE TO SUCH ALLIANCE OF ARAB STATESMEN/NATIONALISTS/REGIONAL STEWARDS WHOM WOULD NEED TO STEP UP FOR SUCH GEOPOLITICAL AND QUITE TO THE POINT >>> EXISTENTIAL <<< REALITY WHICH IS BEING TESTED ~ ECONOMICALLY AND IDEOLOGICALLY ~ TEMPERED WITH THE WAR OF WILLS ~ HIGH NOON IN THE WILD ~ WILD ~ MIDDLE EAST ~ AND ~ TO STACK THE DECK OR TIP THE TACTICAL S2S WITH YOU KNOW WHAT ~ WILL TRIGGER THE DOMINO THEORY SPECULATED AND RESULTING IN REGIONAL DESTABILIZATION WITH SECONDARY/TERTIARY GLOBAL GEOPLOITICAL IMPLICATIONS...

HAVING SAID THE ABOVE ~ PATTERNS I'VE OBSERVED ~ OF COURSE I GET ALL MY DATA/INFO FROM MSM ~ NEWSPAPERS ~ ONE NEVER NEGOITATES A DEAL FROM A POSITION OF WEAKNESS OR PERCEIVED WEAKNESS ~ HANDICAPPING ANY NEGOTIATION WITH WE WILL TELL OUR PARTNERS ABOUT THE DEAL AFTER WE APPROVE SUCH ~ IS THE TAIL LEADING THE DOG...IMH-LAY-OPINION...

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"Which move is the strategically advantageous one..."

WELL THAT CERTAINLY DEPENDS ON WHOSE AGENDA ONE IS STEADFASTLY WORKING ON ~ AS IT SOMEWHAT APPEARS THERE'S A DICOTOMY OF INTERESTS/ACTIONS ESPOUSED...AGAIN...IMHO...NEVERTHELESS, READING BETWEEN THE TEA LEAVES ~ THERE ARE OPTIONS ~ BUT THAT OLE WILL TO IMPLEMENT SEEMS TO BE TILTED TOWARD FILLING AN HISTORICAL ADVERSARY'S BOWL OF DATES...

HOW ABOUT A GAME OF CHESS ~ cool

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SWAMP ~ SHMART FELLA ~ grin

IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY OVER HER SHOULD ~ YOU'LL SEE THE FM-101 MANUAL FOR SUCH GAMES/TESTS FOR STAR FLEET WRITTEN BY JAMES T. KIRK
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« Reply #12466 on: Mar 28th, 2015, 4:37pm »


Certainly a horse race to Doomsday Zetar
but if it isn't ...maybe we can narrow the field down.. pick our winners from here. Certainly the Prez is making conflicting moves but consistent with the the needs of the jockeys.

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« Reply #12467 on: Mar 28th, 2015, 7:54pm »

well..just when we think we are at WWIII
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http://phys.org/news/2015-03-russia-space-station-nasa.html

Russia and NASA recently agreed to keep operating and financing the ISS until 2024, but future joint space projects have remained in doubt, as relations between Russia and the US have plunged to post-Cold War lows over the Ukraine conflict.
"Roscosmos together with NASA will work on the programme of a future orbital station," the head of Russia's Roscosmos space agency, Igor Komarov said, quoted by Interfax news agency.
Komarov made the announcement flanked by NASA administrator Charles Bolden at Russia's Baikonur launchpad in Kazakhstan.
"We agreed that the group of countries taking part in the ISS project will work on the future project of a new orbital station," Komarov said.
The Russian space chief said that the project to build the new station would be "open" and could include countries that are not currently involved in the ISS.
"The first step is that the ISS will operate until 2024," he added. Russia had threatened to pull out in 2020 but said earlier this year it would keep up its role until 2024.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-russia-space-station-nasa.html#jCp

Roscosmos and NASA "do not rule out that the station's flight could be extended," Komarov added.
"Its term of existence will depend on the implementation of our joint projects," Komarov said.
Russia had said earlier this year it planned to create its own space station after 2024 using its modules from the ISS after it is mothballed.
Russia's deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin, who oversees the space sphere, appeared to downplay Komarov's comments on Saturday.
"The Russian government will study the results of the talks between Roscosmos and NASA. The decisions will be taken later," Rogozin wrote on Twitter.
Late Friday, a spacecraft launched successfully carrying Russian and US astronauts to the ISS, two of whom will spend a historic year-long term on board in an experiment to study the physical effects of long-duration space missions.


well..you have to think of something for Boeing to make some money.
No future in shoveling ashes. With the other llittle guy Elon Musk out of the way financially you can rest assured that there will be plenty of room in space to creatively wage war upon Earth and Mars.
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U.S. Nerve Gas Hit Our Own Troops in Iraq
BY BARBARA KOEPPEL 3/27/15 AT 11:52 AM

http://www.newsweek.com/how-us-nerve-gassed-its-own-troops-then-covered-it-317250
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During and immediately after the first Gulf War, more than 200,000 of 700,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq and Kuwait in January 1991 were exposed to nerve gas and other chemical agents. Though aware of this, the Department of Defense and CIA launched a campaign of lies and concocted a cover-up that continues today.

A quarter of a century later, the troops nearest the explosions are dying of brain cancer at two to three times the rate of those who were farther away. Others have lung cancer or debilitating chronic diseases, and pain.

More complications lie ahead.
According to Dr. Linda Chao, a neurologist at the University of California Medical School in San Francisco, “Because part of their brains, the hippocampus, has shrunk, they’re at greater risk for Alzheimer’s and other degenerative diseases.”

At first, the DOD was adamant: No troops were exposed.

“No information…indicates that chemical or biological weapons were used in the Persian Gulf,” wrote Secretary of Defense William Perry and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs John Shalikashvili in a 1994 memo to 20,000 Desert Storm veterans. Strictly speaking, they were right: No weapons were used. The nerve agent sarin was in the fallout from the U.S. bombing or detonating of Iraq’s weapons sites.

Perry and Shalikashvili knew.

As Alan Friedman wrote in The Spider Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq, the Reagan and Bush administrations, which backed Iraq in its 1980-1988 war with Iran, approved of U.S. companies selling chemical agents and equipment to Iraq, including “a huge petrochemicals complex called PC2. Western intelligence also knew that PC2 was capable of generating chemical compounds to make mustard and nerve gas.”

Donald Riegle, a Democratic U.S. Senator from Michigan, held hearings about the veterans illnesses in 1993 and 1994. He told me the decision by Reagan and Bush “to secretly help Saddam Hussein build his biological and chemical weapons was a monstrous strategic error that eventually led to the tragedy of Gulf War Syndrome, which killed and disabled so many unprotected American troops.”

Breathing Poison

During January and February 1991, when the U.S. bombed Iraq’s weapons plants and storage sites, poisonous plumes floated across the desert to thousands of U.S. troops based on the Saudi border. Sirens wailed daily, but officers in charge announced that the chemical-detection alarms were faulty.

They were not.

A Czech chemical-weapons detection unit found “trace concentrations of sarin, a nerve-paralyzing substance” drifting into Saudi Arabia. French, British and U.S. intelligence units found similar evidence.

Tracy Elledge, a former combat engineer and one of the veterans I interviewed, said, “Alarms went off all the time.… Our officers told us they were false and to disconnect them.”

However, Elledge and others were breathing poison.

In a 2012 Neuroepidemiology article, Jim Tuite, a Gulf War illness expert, and Dr. Robert Haley, an internist/epidemiologist at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, wrote that “large numbers of U.S. and Coalition military personnel were exposed to levels of sarin … high enough to cause irreversible or other serious, long-lasting adverse health effects.”

Elledge was on a team setting C-4 plastic explosives at Khamisiyah, one of Iraq’s largest weapons sites. “We used timed fuses, which gave us 10 minutes to get a half mile away,” he said. “But even at that distance, the smoke was terrible. And we were sent back in to make sure we got everything. The officers never told us the old rockets were filled with sarin, so we didn’t wear any protective gear.”

Jim Bunker was a lieutenant with the First Infantry Division who had trained as a demolition expert. He told me that “before the DOD blew up the ammunition, it sent papers to the battalion officers and intelligence people with clear markings to help them identify chemical weapons. Then on March 2 or 3, the DOD sent the ordnance disposal team to verify which chemicals were there. We don’t know what they found, because once the troops started demolishing them and getting sick, the reports disappeared.”

Bunker said that when troops first became ill, his battalion commander, Col. John Gingrich, radioed headquarters to find out what was happening. He was told: “It’s the heat.”

“We knew this wasn’t true,” Bunker said. “It was only 85 degrees, and we’d trained in over 100 degrees—without people getting sick like this.” The next day, division commander Maj. General Thomas Rhame and Col. Michael Dodson came to their base. “They told Gingrich to be quiet about the men’s symptoms,” Bunker said.

Dodson, now head of the Armed Services YMCA, did not respond to calls. Rhame, retired and until recently, vice president of the Association of the U.S. Army, told me, “I don’t deny the troops were ill. But I don’t remember that incident and it’s not in my nature to tell a subordinate not to admit something, because it might embarrass us.” Gingrich told me he remembers the issue about the heat, but not that Rhame and Dodson visited the next day. What does Bunker think? “There’s no way for people to admit to what really happened to us.”

Bunker said that when troops first became ill, his battalion commander, Col. John Gingrich, radioed headquarters to find out what was happening. He was told: “It’s the heat.”

“We knew this wasn’t true,” Bunker said. “It was only 85 degrees, and we’d trained in over 100 degrees—without people getting sick like this.” The next day, division commander Maj. General Thomas Rhame and Col. Michael Dodson came to their base. “They told Gingrich to be quiet about the men’s symptoms,” Bunker said.

Dodson, now head of the Armed Services YMCA, did not respond to calls. Rhame, retired and until recently, vice president of the Association of the U.S. Army, told me, “I don’t deny the troops were ill. But I don’t remember that incident and it’s not in my nature to tell a subordinate not to admit something, because it might embarrass us.” Gingrich told me he remembers the issue about the heat, but not that Rhame and Dodson visited the next day. What does Bunker think? “There’s no way for people to admit to what really happened to us.”
Ron Brown, a soldier with the 82nd Division, watched the demolitions from a mile away. “Within 15 minutes, I couldn’t breathe and my head was about to split open,” Brown said. “Soldiers were nauseous, dizzy and had diarrhea and muscle spasms. About 30 of us went to the medic, who gave us Motrin and told us to drink water.”

Later that month, Bunker almost died. As the demolitions continued, his symptoms became more severe. “First, I couldn’t control my muscles,” he said. “But in a couple days, I had convulsions and collapsed. After this, they medevacked me to hospitals in Saudi Arabia and Germany, and then to the U.S.”

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re: your article Sys

"A quarter of a century later, the troops nearest the explosions are dying of brain cancer at two to three times the rate of those who were farther away. Others have lung cancer or debilitating chronic diseases, and pain."



This is heartbreaking and I get so damn angry that politicians use our military then throw them away.

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VIDEO: ‘UFO’ caught hovering over Leeds city centre
posted 30 March 2015

A ‘UFO’ has been apparently filmed hovering over Leeds in West Yorkshire.

The video shows the unidentified flying object flying at a steady speed above city buildings before vanishing in a sudden flash of light.

The uploader of the video says that the audio has been replaced with music as the “eyewitnesses do not want their names or identities to be released.”

The origin of the video remains a mystery, but coincidentally, the film was in the perfect place at the time of recording.





The last video uploaded by the same channel also has a ‘UFO’ – different from the one in Leeds – flying slowly above Michigan.

http://www.yorkshirestandard.co.uk/weird/video-ufo-caught-hovering-over-leeds-city-centre-11332/

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Archaeological Institute of America

1,000-Year-Old Salve Recipe Kills MRSA Cultures


Monday, March 30, 2015

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NOTTINGHAM, ENGLAND—A ninth-century Anglo-Saxon remedy for eye infections has been found to kill the modern-day superbug MRSA and disrupt naturally antibiotic-resistant biofilms in tests conducted by researchers from The University of Nottingham and Texas Tech University.

Anglo-Saxon expert Christina Lee enlisted the microbiologists who recreated the potion, which includes ingredients such as onion, garlic, and part of a cow’s stomach brewed in a copper vessel.

The recipe is from Bald’s Leechbook, a volume in the British Library that is thought to be one of the earliest-known books of medical advice and medicines.

“We thought that Bald’s eye salve might show a small amount of antibiotic activity, because each of the ingredients has been shown by other researchers to have some effect on bacteria in the lab—copper and bile salts can kill bacteria, and the garlic family of plants make chemicals that interfere with the bacteria’s ability to damage infected tissues.

But we were absolutely blown away by just how effective the combination of ingredients was,” Freya Harrison said in a press release. Steve Diggle adds that people may have been carrying out detailed scientific studies before bacteria were even discovered in order to produce such effective remedies.

http://www.archaeology.org/news/3127-150330-anglo-saxon-recipe

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Swamp that is one stellar article certainly worth following up if only to get the recipe.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/officials-respond-to-incident-at-nsa-on-fort-meade-campus/2015/03/30/08bdfe56-d6e1-11e4-ba28-f2a685dc7f89_story.html

Shooting at NSA headquarters leaves one dead

The overnight tryst began in Baltimore, with three men, two dressed as women. It continued at a motel on U.S. 1, and when one of the men woke up Monday morning, his two cross-dressing companions, and his Ford Escape, were gone.

The dark-colored Escape was headed south on the Baltimore-Washington Parkway. Its driver, in what authorities believe could have been a mistake, took a restricted exit leading to a security post at the sprawling campus of the National Security Agency at Fort Meade, Md.

An NSA statement said the driver ignored police commands to stop and instead accelerated toward a police vehicle as at least one officer opened fire. The stolen SUV crashed into the cruiser. One man died at the scene, and the other was rushed to a hospital for treatment. An NSA officer also was injured, though officials did not say how.

What had first appeared to be an attempt to breach security at the listening post that eavesdrops on communications throughout the world now appears to be a wrong turn by two men who police believe had robbed their

companion of his vehicle and perhaps didn’t stop because there were drugs inside.

A spokeswoman for the Baltimore office of the FBI, Amy J. Thoreson, said early in the investigation that authorities “do not believe [the incident] is related to terrorism.” A law enforcement official said: “This was not a deliberate attempt to breach the security of NSA. This was not a planned attack.”

Police have not released the identities of the people involved, or the conditions of the man who survived the incident and the injured NSA officer. The NSA statement did not say whether either person in the car was struck by gunfire or was injured as a result of the crash.

Details about how the incident began were pieced together with information from several law enforcement officials and others familiar with the case, who spoke on the condition they not be named in order to discuss a pending case.

A Howard County police spokeswoman confirmed that the men involved stayed at a Jessup motel and that the owner of the SUV called police Monday morning to report it stolen.

Police officials said late Monday afternoon that they were still trying to piece together the sequence of events and locations. One official said it appears that the owner of the SUV picked up the other two men in Baltimore, though the official said detectives had not confirmed that account entirely.

The officials do know that the three men checked into the motel room and stayed the night. One official familiar with the investigation described the episode as “prostitution and drug-related.”

Mary Phelan, a spokeswoman for the Howard County Police Department, confirmed that the SUV stolen from the motel was the vehicle that ended up at the NSA checkpoint. Officials said they are trying to sort through the vehicle owner’s statement; it was unclear whether the person injured in the incident could be interviewed at the hospital.

The encounter at the NSA occurred shortly before 9 a.m., when the vehicle entered the NSA complex in Anne Arundel County and “failed to obey an NSA police officer’s routine instructions for safely exiting the secure campus.” The statement said security barriers were raised.

One official said the vehicle struck a security officer and the security barrier. The NSA statement said the “vehicle accelerated toward an NSA police vehicle blocking the road” and that police “fired at the vehicle.” It then crashed into the police vehicle.

Local television cameras showed two vehicles that were damaged near a gate at the military base.

Dozens of media descended onto the NSA campus Monday morning eager for details, but when they arrived, the press and their news trucks were corralled to a parking lot blocks away from NSA headquarters with no view of the scene.

A line of cameras sat on a hill facing away from the NSA building into the evening because NSA officials told the media they could not take video or photos of the campus. News helicopters buzzed overhead through most of the day.
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http://rt.com/usa/245353-silk-road-agents-arrested/
Silk Road rogues: Federal agents arrested for theft, extortion, fraud
Two federal investigators working on the black-market website Silk Road went ‘breaking bad’ along the way, claims a DOJ document, charging them with a variety of crimes including Bitcoin theft and extortion.

The Department of Justice indictment charges 46-year-old former Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) special agent Carl Mark Force IV, and 32-year-old former Secret Service agent Shaun W. Bridges, with wire fraud and money laundering. Force was also charged with theft of government property and conflict of interest. The federal criminal complaint was issued on March 25 in the Northern District of California, but was sealed until Monday.

Read More: Jury finds Ross Ulbricht guilty on all counts over Silk Road website

Force and Bridges were part of the Baltimore-based federal task force charged with investigating Silk Road, the underground marketplace for illicit goods and services shut down by the FBI in 2013. The website’s creator, Ross Ulbricht, denied federal accusations that he operated the site under the name “Dread Pirate Roberts.”

Ulbricht was convicted in February 2015 on seven criminal charges, including drug trafficking, money laundering, and computer hacking. Sentencing in the case was scheduled for May 15. Ulbricht’s lawyer has reportedly requested a retrial, however, following the revelations that two of the federal investigators had engaged in criminal activities of their own.

According to the DOJ indictment, agent Force “developed additional online personas and engaged in a broad range of illegal activities calculated to bring him personal financial gain.” The government claims he “engaged in complex Bitcoin transactions to steal from the government and the targets of the investigation,” diverting funds into his personal account. Moreover, Force allegedly created two fake personas, one to try and extort $250,000 from “Dread Pirate Roberts” (Ulbricht, according to the federal indictment) and another to sell him information on the government investigation for $100,000. The latter identity was identified in the DOJ report as “French Maid.”


According to the DOJ documents, Force had worked as a DEA special agent for 15 years before resigning last spring. Bridges spent six years in the Secret Service.

Read More: Silk Road trial: FBI traced $13mn in bitcoin to Ulbricht

In October 2013, when federal investigators announced the charges against Ulbricht, they called Silk Road “the most sophisticated and extensive criminal marketplace on the Internet,” and claimed that several thousand vendors used the exchange to sell a variety of illicit goods to over 100,000 customers. The site reportedly generated over $213 million in revenue, and Ulbricht was charged with taking in millions of dollars in commissions.

Federal task forces in New York, Chicago and Baltimore examining the Silk Road. Investigation by the Baltimore team, of which agents Force and Bridges were a part, resulted in charges against Ulbricht for hiring contract killers. Those charges were not part of the main trial, however, and the case is still pending.



Hmmm I can see DEA doing it with all of NSAs skeleton keys and backdoors.. but the Secret Service? Isn.t that like the Presidents crew? smiley
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Washington Post

Why the new Special Operations exercise freaking out the Internet is no big deal

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March 31 at 9:48 AM

The mission is vast both geographically and strategically: Elite service members from all four branches of the U.S. military will launch an operation this summer in which they will operate covertly among the U.S. public and travel from state to state in military aircraft. Texas, Utah and a section of southern California are labeled as hostile territory, and New Mexico isn’t much friendlier.

That’s the scheme for Jade Helm 15, a new Special Operations exercise that runs from July 15 to Sept. 15. Army Special Operations Command announced it last week, saying the size and scope of the mission sets it apart from many other training exercises.

“The nature of warfare is always changing and U.S. Army Special Operations Command’s mission is to make certain the Army’s various Special Operations Forces are trained, equipped and organized to successfully conduct worldwide special operations in support of our nation’s interests,” Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail. “Training exercise Jade Helm is going to assist our Special Operations Soldiers and leadership in refining the skills needed against an ever changing foreign threat.”

The exercise has prompted widespread conspiracy theories that the United States is preparing to hatch martial law.

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Scientists Unravel Mystery of Ancient Greek Machine

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A computer generated reconstruction of the front and back of the Antikythera Mechanism. Credit: Antikythera Mechanism Research Project

Scientists have finally demystified the incredible workings of a 2,000-year-old astronomical calculator built by ancient Greeks.

A new analysis of the Antikythera Mechanism, a clock-like machine consisting of more than 30 precise, hand-cut bronze gears, show it to be more advanced than previously thought—so much so that nothing comparable was built for another thousand years.

"This device is just extraordinary, the only thing of its kind," said study leader Mike Edmunds of Cardiff University in the UK. "The design is beautiful, the astronomy is exactly right…In terms of historical and scarcity value, I have to regard this mechanism as being more valuable than the Mona Lisa."

The researchers used three-dimensional X-ray scanners to reconstruct the workings of the device's gears and high-resolution surface imaging to enhance faded inscriptions on its surface.

Precise astronomy

The new analysis reveals that the device's front dials had pointers for the sun and moon — called the "golden little sphere" and "little sphere," respectively—and markings, which coincided with the zodiac and solar calendars. The back dials, meanwhile, appear to have been used for predicting solar and lunar eclipses.

The researchers also show that the device could mechanically replicate the irregular motions of the Moon, caused by its elliptical orbit around the Earth, using a clever design involving two superimposed gear-wheels, one slightly off-center, that are connected by a pin-and-slot device.

The team was also able to pin down the device's construction date more precisely. Radiocarbon dating suggested it was built around 65 B.C., but newly revealed lettering on the machine indicate a slightly older construction date of 150 to 100 B.C. The team's reconstruction also involves 37 gear wheels, seven of which are hypothetical.

"In the face of fragmentary material evidence, such guesswork is inevitable. But the new model is highly seductive, and convincing in all of its detail," wrote Francois Charette, a researcher at the Ludwig-Maximilians University in Germany who was not involved in the study, in a related article in the journal Nature.

Discovered in 1900

Pieces of the ancient calculating machine were discovered by sponge divers exploring the remains of an ancient shipwreck off the tiny island of Antikythera in 1900. For decades, scientists have been trying to figure out how the device's 80 fragmented pieces fit together and unlock its workings.

Previous reconstructions suggested the Antikythera Mechanism was about the size of a shoebox, with dials on the outside and a complex assembly of bronze gear wheels within. By winding a knob on its side, the positions of the sun, moon, Mercury and Venus could be determined for any chosen date. Newly revealed inscriptions also appear to confirm previous speculations that the device could also calculate the positions of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn — the other planets known at the time.

The international team, led by Edmunds and Tony Freeth, also of Cardiff University, included astronomers, mathematicians, computer experts, script analysts and conservation experts from the U.K., Greece and the United States.

The researchers plan to create a computer model of how the Antikythera Mechanism worked and eventually a working replica.

The team's findings will be presented in a two-day international conference in Athens and published in the Nov. 30 issue of the journal Nature.

http://www.livescience.com/1166-scientists-unravel-mystery-ancient-greek-machine.html

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That's interesting. I'm curious how accurate it is. Given the complexities of their astronomical models due to assumptions (wrong) about the earths motion the mechanical workings would seem to have to be very intricate. It's one thing to do math to approximate the planets positions it's another to have machinery do it and get the same results. I'd be shocked if it was more accurate then the models of their times.

A good example of why common sense does not always win out is the belief that the earth is too big to move and no one feels the movement. So how can it be moving? Hence back then it made sense it had no bearing on what was being observed in the sky.
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