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« Reply #405 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 11:34am »

Yes Phil, I think it will only be the little guys that get yanked around. The big lobbyists will keep on spreading the oil, er......joy.
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« Reply #406 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 11:38am »

I took the garbage out this morning at the crack of dawn and almost stepped on a wasp's nest. angry

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« Reply #407 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:21pm »

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Rabid Dogs Kill 78 in Holiday Hotspot of Bali


Published August 02, 2010
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BALI, Indonesia - Putu Valentino Rosiadi should have started third grade this month. But instead of buying a new school uniform and notebooks, his father mournfully cradles a black-and-white photo.

The 8-year-old was next door when a stray dog jumped him in May, ripping its teeth into the boy's right calf. He was stitched up at a local hospital and sent home. His family was told no cases of rabies had been reported in their area.
Earlier this month, a high fever hit him. Valentino died two days later.

"He was delirious. There was foam coming out of his mouth," said the boy's father, Komang Suda, 32. "Every time we tried to give him water, it was like he went into shock. He was shaking and very agitated."

A rabies epidemic has gripped Bali, an island of 3 million people and one of Asia's top tourist destinations.

Seventy-eight deaths have officially been logged in the past two years, including that of a 40-year-old woman a week ago, and many other deaths have likely gone unreported.

The Indonesian government says it's overwhelmed, with more than 30,000 dog bites reported in just the first half of this year across Bali. In a highly criticized move, officials killed about 200,000 dogs, instead of initially conducting mass vaccinations as recommended by the World Health Organization.

"We have a serious problem with the anti-rabies vaccine for humans ... we are very short of treatment across the island," said Nyoman Sutedja, chief of Bali's provincial health ministry, who expects all stocks to run out by next month. "We need help."

Hospitals across Bali have faced periodic shortages of free post-exposure vaccines since the outbreak began, leaving poor residents with few options. The shots remain available at pharmacies, but many Balinese cannot afford them.

Several countries, including the United States and Australia, have issued travel warnings advising vacationers to consider getting pre-exposure rabies vaccinations before arriving and to avoid contact with dogs while in Bali. A handful of foreign tourists have reported dog bites, but none have been fatal.
Shots given immediately after contact with saliva from a rabid animal can easily prevent death. But once symptoms appear, treatment is useless.

Rabies kills some 55,000 people annually - mostly children - with nearly 60 percent of those deaths from dog bites in Asia, according to the WHO. The disease still exists in the U.S., but human deaths are extremely rare. Nearly all bites occur from wild animals, such as raccoons or bats.

The rabies incubation period can last from a few weeks to months or even beyond a year. Flulike symptoms, such as headache, fatigue and fever, are the first signs of infection, followed by agitation, breathing problems, fear of water, paralysis and coma.

Bali dogs, often covered in a scaly mange, are a common sight across the island. They roam beaches and hang out in packs, lounging around temples and markets. Many are kept as guard dogs, but as part of the island's Hindu tradition, most are typically allowed to run and breed freely. They forage for food from restaurants and garbage heaps, and have largely coexisted peacefully with locals and tourists. The entire island remained free of rabies until the first case was reported in November 2008.

A third of the island's estimated 600,000 dogs have been killed since the outbreak began, Sutedja said. But he admitted the problem has only worsened with more puppies being born along with a spike in dog bites. Only about a quarter of Bali's dogs are kept as pets.

"The government doesn't want to do what everybody tells them from the WHO on down," said Dr. Henry Wilde, a rabies expert at Chulalongkorn University in Thailand, which serves as a WHO collaborating center on the disease. "It's a virtually hopeless situation."

Sutedja said the government has responded seriously to the threat, fearing dog attacks could damage its lucrative tourism industry, which so far has remained strong.

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« Reply #408 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 1:08pm »

Hello SwampRat!
The rabies article is awful. Children taking the brunt of it of course.
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« Reply #409 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 6:52pm »

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The following is an interesting piece by Scott Corrales at Inexplicata. It includes an overview of the Monterrey Flying Witch or Flying Humanoid events as well:

A curious story occupied the headlines of a number of Mexican newspapers in 2006 regarding the startling re-emergence of strange entities best described as “witches” in parts of the country, but mainly in the area of Monterrey, Mexico’s second most important city. According to Matamoros’ El Mañana newspaper on September 19, 2006, Gerardo Garza Carvajal (Carbajal, in some newspaper accounts) a policeman from Santa Catarina claimed having seen two witches while on a routine patrol near a graveyard months earlier.

With five years’ seniority with the Monterrey police department, Garza stepped forward with the story of his bizarre experience only because a fellow officer agreed to substantiate the experience. The young police officer had a glowing record and had never experienced any mental issues or hallucinations, as substantiated by tests performed on him at the Municipal Clinic.

Gerardo Garza’s brush with the supernatural occurred near the Panteon Municipal cemetery, a short distance from the road leading to Villa Garcia.” I was inside the guardhouse when I heard the sound of pebbles being thrown against the door. I went outside to see what was going on, and it was then that I saw two witches with faces like old women, with red eyes and black hats tipped backward; they had feathered wings and claws on the ends of those extremities. They began laughing horribly, and I got back into the guardhouse and saw what they were doing through a peephole. They were flying in circles, so I reported the situation to my fellow officers.”

Garza said that he immediately requested backup, and in a matter of minutes was surrounded by several municipal police cars even some from the Ministerial Police.

"The witches flew off, but the police officers who came to my aid saw what I saw. They can attest to the fact that I didn't imagine anything. What I saw was real. I'd never been so scared before," said the officer. He added that he was subsequently taken to a medical center, since his blood pressure dropped excessively. He soon recovered from the powerful shock.

Local media gave the event a humorous twist, saying that law enforcement seemed to have a hard time dealing with organized crime, but oddly capable at dealing with the paranormal. Police spokesmen did their best to play down the report involving the strange “witches”, but there already existed an uncomfortable precedent for the case: the January 16, 2004 experience that involved another police officer – Leonardo Samaniego – who had seen an entity similar to the one reported by Garza in the Valles de la Silla neighborhood at 3:15 am. near the mountain that dominates the city of Monterrey. The 21 year old Samaniego reported to his superiors that a “creature resembling a witch” had manifested itself suddenly in the residential area, and even pursued his cruiser in full flight as the terrified officer drove away in reverse, his eyes riveted all the time on the frightening manifestation.

“When the witch began chasing me,” he explained, “I requested support from other police units over the radio. At that point, the witch descended between two trees at an elevation of six meters. She stopped and came down slowly. I saw her when she turned around – she was a completely black shape. She made a full turn and the light in her eyes vanished. Her eyes were just black sockets, without eyelids.”

Like in the very best horror movies, the nightmarish figure’s pursuit did not end there. According to Samaniego, the figure flew against the squad car, landing against the windshield and staring at him fixedly. “That’s when I lifted my hands, screamed and passed out.” One can hardly blame him.

Police dispatcher Angelina Guerrero’s version of the event was only slightly different. “The officer reported that the woman approached him and gave him a nasty look, that she stuck to the windshield of the cruiser, pulled back and then rose into the night sky until she vanished.

It was suggested at the time that the unholy apparition had not hurt Samaniego Gallegos because he had an image of Our Lady of Guadalupe hanging from the rear view mirror. Another interesting note was that the vehicle’s windows were fully lowered at the time.

The reader can imagine the teasing and practical jokes that the young law enforcement officer probably had to endure at the hands of his fellow policemen, but his experience prompted residents of Colonia La Playa – a residential district adjacent to Valles de la Silla – to come forward with their own accounts of high strangeness.

Norma Hernandez, 22, claimed having seen a black figure similar to a human being flying through the air two weeks prior to the policeman’s hair-raising experience. Mrs. Hernández told the press that she had been doing laundry and hanging clothes out to dry when she became aware of the “black form” flying near her house. Frightened, the young housewife set aside her chores to run into the house and alert her husband, who scoffed at the suggestion. By the time Norma went out again, the entity was gone. “It was the size of a person,” she said. “That’s what frightened me the most.”

The Hernandez experience was in turn corroborated by Seferino Gutiérrez, another resident of Colonia La Playa, who remarked that several years earlier he had seen a black-colored shape with clearly animal characteristics flying over their street.

Mexico’s tradition of “witches” goes back into the Aztec past, and small communities have always maintained traditions that are an amalgamation of European Christian belief and native lore in this regard. Many regiomontano farmers and ranchers have the same fear of owls that the Aztecs felt for Tacolotl, the great horned owl, an evil far more terrible than the dreaded Tezcatlipoca. 19th century beliefs maintained that witches would adopt owl form to disturb the inhabitants of lonely farmsteads and would engage in curious animal mutilations – killing cats and stealing their eyes in order to see in the dark. It was also believed that witches in owl-shape could be made to fall out of the sky by reciting the Lord’s Prayer backward.

The Witch Caught on Videotape?

Stories involving the “witches of Monterrey” – much more aerobatic and frightful than the witches of Eastwick or TV series like Charmed – captured the public’s imagination and the media’s as a result of Officer Garza’s experience at the cemetery. A video dated May 17, 2006 was received by a Monterrey TV station, allegedly showing the flight of a “black shape” like the one described, only this time on a broomstick. The intriguing recording had been taken in the vicinity of Cerro de la Silla, unleashing a firestorm of controversy, and it remains to this day on YouTube.

This is a long article with several youtube videos. it's worth having a look.
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« Reply #410 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 6:55pm »

Oh Pen, thanks for that comment on bridges. I didn't know the symbolism attached to them. Makes sense.
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Hello, this was really spooky fo us...We were on our way from a movie, a bit down the road when we spotted strange lights in the sky. We do not know what they were, the were pulsating tremendously, so I grabbed my cell, and shot this video.
After, they continued, and went up so fast, very high into the sky. It looked as if there was a surface beneath them!...Really Spooky!....

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Sci Fi movie news

Len Wiseman to Direct Total Recall Remake
Posted by Nix on July 29, 2010

We’ve been hearing about a “Total Recall” remake for a while now, but it looks like Columbia Pictures has finally pulled the trigger with the announcement that “Underworld” director Len Wiseman is in final negotiations to helm the remake for them.

Like the 1990 original starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sharon Stone, along with the awesome Michael Ironside, the redo will be based on the original story by sci-fi author Philip K. Dick called “We Can Remember It for You Wholesale”, which in the 1990 movie followed a construction worker who isn’t sure if his memories of being a spy from Mars is part of a memory implant or the real thing.

Kurt Wimmer, who wrote and directed the fantastic “Equilibrium” (but also did the truly awful “Ultraviolet”), will script the remake for Columbia.

http://www.scificool.com/len-wiseman-to-direct-total-recall-remake/

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Actually Crys that is an excellent nature photo.... but do be careful of those wasps... If one attacks they smell the venom and the whole lot will attack. Its scary.

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Strange Mexican Witch Stories - Inexplicata

The following is an interesting piece by Scott Corrales at Inexplicata. It includes an overview of the Monterrey Flying Witch or Flying Humanoid events as well:

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Thanks for posting this Crys…. I had read it before, but had forgotten about it. It’s a very interesting case, but I wonder how they came up with the term witches? I think these could be other dimensional beings, and not witches.

Thanks again Crys

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« Reply #416 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 07:01am »

We've discussed that case a couple of months back over at OMF. I was able to remember that there were videos which showed that alleged witch walking towards the edge of that mountain to then just take off. I searched the net for it again, but this vid has disappeared. Good thing is that I wasn't the only one who remembered that vid. Strange. Maybe somebody didn't wanted us to see it.
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on Aug 3rd, 2010, 07:01am, philliman wrote:
We've discussed that case a couple of months back over at OMF. I was able to remember that there were videos which showed that alleged witch walking towards the edge of that mountain to then just take off. I searched the net for it again, but this vid has disappeared. Good thing is that I wasn't the only one who remembered that vid. Strange. Maybe somebody didn't wanted us to see it.


Hi Philliman

In the discussion on OMF did you come to any conclusions about what it could be? I had a thought (not wanting to offend anyone or their beliefs) that if they are very superstitious and religious in those regions then that could be how they came up with the idea that it was witches. I do however feel that they were other dimensional beings. Whatever they were they weren't nice.

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Fox News

Rabid Dogs Kill 78 in Holiday Hotspot of Bali


Published August 02, 2010
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BALI, Indonesia - Putu Valentino Rosiadi should have started third grade this month. But instead of buying a new school uniform and notebooks, his father mournfully cradles a black-and-white photo.

The 8-year-old was next door when a stray dog jumped him in May, ripping its teeth into the boy's right calf. He was stitched up at a local hospital and sent home. His family was told no cases of rabies had been reported in their area.
Earlier this month, a high fever hit him. Valentino died two days later.

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This is terrible... I have been there on holiday and the state of the dogs roaming had me freaking out. Bali is a gorgeous place and the people are wonderful, but those starving dogs really got to me, as it would to any animal lover.
Someone told me while I was there that they believe that the spirits of bad people come back as dogs, so they won't feed them. Whether that is true or not I don't know... The dogs I saw were certainly starving. Some people there are jungle people and are nomadic, always pulling up camp and moving and many live in poverty. Its very sad.

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« Reply #419 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 08:17am »

Good morning/evening Pen,
I had the camera on zoom on the wasps and I tried not to get creeped out while I was standing over the nest. And I didn't poke it! I am used to yellow jackets and wasn't sure they were wasps so sent the photo to some beekeepers in Bellingham. I didn't want to kill bees since they are having an awful time as it is. The guy was really nice. I hate to kill them but they can't live in our front yard.

Good morning Phil!
I remember that discussion and the video you mentioned about the flying witches. One police officer had a run in with one and the way he described her it sounded much like the witches we think of. Maybe that's where the term came from.
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