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« Reply #9855 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 09:29am »

I knew our dogs were communicating to gang up on us!


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Chimps Can Use Gestures to Communicate in Hunt for Food

Jan. 17, 2014 — Remember the children's game "warmer/colder," where one person uses those words to guide the other person to a hidden toy or treat? Well, it turns out that chimpanzees can play, too.

Researchers at Georgia State University's Language Research Center examined how two language-trained chimpanzees communicated with a human experimenter to find food. Their results are the most compelling evidence to date that primates can use gestures to coordinate actions in pursuit of a specific goal.

The team devised a task that demanded coordination among the chimps and a human to find a piece of food that had been hidden in a large outdoor area. The human experimenter did not know where the food was hidden, and the chimpanzees used gestures such as pointing to guide the experimenter to the food.

Dr. Charles Menzel, a senior research scientist at the Language Research Center, said the design of the experiment with the "chimpanzee-as-director" created new ways to study the primate.

"It allows the chimpanzees to communicate information in the manner of their choosing, but also requires them to initiate and to persist in communication," Menzel said. "The chimpanzees used gestures to recruit the assistance of an otherwise uninformed person and to direct the person to hidden objects 10 or more meters away. Because of the openness of this paradigm, the findings illustrate the high level of intentionality chimpanzees are capable of, including their use of directional gestures. This study adds to our understanding of how well chimpanzees can remember and communicate about their environment."

The paper, "Chimpanzees Modify Intentional Gestures to Co-ordinate a Search for Hidden Food," has been published in Nature Communications. Academics at the University of Chester and University of Stirling collaborated on the research project.

Dr. Anna Roberts of the University of Chester said the findings are important.

"The use of gestures to coordinate joint activities such as finding food may have been an important building block in the evolution of language," she said.

Dr. Sarah-Jane Vick of the University of Stirling added, "Previous findings in both wild and captive chimpanzees have indicated flexibility in their gestural production, but the more complex coordination task used here demonstrates the considerable cognitive abilities that underpin chimpanzee communication."

Dr. Sam Roberts, also from the University of Chester, pointed out the analogy to childhood games.

"This flexible use of pointing, taking into account both the location of the food and the actions of the experimenter, has not been observed in chimpanzees before," Roberts said.

The project was supported by The Leakey Foundation, the Wenner-Gren Foundation, National Institutes of Health, the Economic and Social Research Council, the British Academy, the Carnegie Trust for the Universities of Scotland and the University of Stirling.

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« Reply #9856 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 09:42am »

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Family have four children with same birthday at odds of more than 133,000 to one

Further down the line the couple will have to plan a 21st, an 18th and a 16th birthday party all for the same day.

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9:21AM GMT 17 Jan 2014

A family don't have trouble remembering their children's birthdays - with all four siblings born on the same day.

Parents Emily Scrugham and Peter Dunn were amazed when their newborn son arrived on January 12, the exact same date as his three older brother and sisters.

New baby Ryan shares his birthday with his five year old brother Sam, and his two-year-old twin sisters Brooke and Nicole.

"None of the births were due on January 12, Sam was two weeks late, the twins one month early and Ryan three days late.

"The twins had to be delivered by emergency caesarean section as doctors couldn't find their heartbeats, I didn't want them to be born on his birthday but I didn't have a choice.

"And this time round I went into labour 9pm on Saturday night and Ryan appeared at 3am, meaning we now have an extra special little family."

The couple who have been together for seven years and met through mutual friends say having four children all born on the same day is just a lucky coincidence.

Mr Dunn, 24, said: "I'm still trying to work out if it would be easier to have birthdays spread throughout the year or all on the same day.

"It doesn't matter though, we plan to make every birthday a real family event where birthdays get celebrated individually and together."

This year Sam had his own cake and Brooke and Nicole shared one while waiting for their mother to come out of hospital.

Ms Scrugham said she would never dream of moving their birthdays so they could have their own day to celebrate.

She said: "They were all born on January 12 so it will be celebrated on that day."

Further down the line the couple will have to plan a 21st, an 18th and a 16th birthday party all for the same day.

Peter said: "It will always be tough just after Christmas but we will shop for bits and bobs all year round to try and take some of the strain."

The unique family said they are looking forward to the normal challenges and sleepless nights of having four children aged five and under.

The couple from Cleator Moor, Cumbria, beat odds of a staggering 1/133225 in producing a quadruple birthday for their four children.

Ms Scrugham said: "I really can't belive we have another birthday on the same day, it certainly wasn't planned."

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« Reply #9857 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 10:24am »

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« Reply #9858 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 1:24pm »

...Further down the line the couple will have to plan a 21st, an 18th and a 16th birthday party all for the same day.

I wonder if they were all conceived on the same day.

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« Reply #9859 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 4:05pm »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25771510

I've never seen anything like it! said the scientist in the video.
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Scientists are saying that the Sun is in a phase of "solar lull" - meaning that it has fallen asleep - and it is baffling them.

History suggests that periods of unusual "solar lull" coincide with bitterly cold winters.
Is The Sun Asleep?
Rebecca Morelle reports for BBC Newsnight on the effect this inactivity could have on our current climate, and what the implications might be for global warming.

Europe was going to freeze with or without global warming
Make sure and be nice to Russians bringing the gas..


INT..help me here..Where is Rebecca from....what part of England..liverpool.Londonistan .Newcastle..Yorkshire? I almost couldn't understand a bloody thing she said..
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« Reply #9860 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 4:26pm »

Meow,

I don't know. I can't recall her accent and have just done a few searches but although she seems to be a very accomplished lady, nothing so far says where she was born.

Try googling Rebecca Morelle.

I vaguely remember her having a South African hint to her voice, But I'm not sure.

I'll keep an eye (and an ear) open for her.

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« Reply #9861 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 4:33pm »

Additional,

I've just watcher the program you linked to.

Odd that you have trouble understanding her. I find her annunciation crystal clear with hardly a hint of any accent. Maybe that faint bit of Afrikaner. But it is very faint.

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« Reply #9862 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 4:45pm »

I knew you would That's why I asked..
Can you imagine a shakespeare play delivered in that accent?
I can't!shocked

But of course..Left out tainted with Aussie too ,,By Jove that would explain it.. wink
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« Reply #9863 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 4:55pm »

Yes, My kind of lady. and a chemist as well. A new heroine for the girls in our chem' lab at work,

...History suggests that periods of unusual "solar lull" coincide with bitterly cold winters...

I've been noticing that more and more science commentators are hinting at this. And historically it seems that we are in for another mini ice age.

Yet so far this winter is the warmest I can remember. Two years ago we had sub zero temps for around ten week without a break. So far this winter I have only had to scrape the frost from the car on two mornings. Very strange.

It is shaping up to be similar to last spring. warm, very wet.

The jet stream is way out of kilter.

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on Jan 18th, 2014, 1:24pm, INT21 wrote:
...Further down the line the couple will have to plan a 21st, an 18th and a 16th birthday party all for the same day.

I wonder if they were all conceived on the same day.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm? Bet they aren't talking, LOL

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on Jan 18th, 2014, 4:55pm, INT21 wrote:
Yes, My kind of lady. and a chemist as well. A new heroine for the girls in our chem' lab at work,

...History suggests that periods of unusual "solar lull" coincide with bitterly cold winters...

I've been noticing that more and more science commentators are hinting at this. And historically it seems that we are in for another mini ice age.

Yet so far this winter is the warmest I can remember. Two years ago we had sub zero temps for around ten week without a break. So far this winter I have only had to scrape the frost from the car on two mornings. Very strange.

It is shaping up to be similar to last spring. warm, very wet.

The jet stream is way out of kilter.

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We've been fortunate here on the North Puget Sound this winter, so far. It's been warm. The winter of 2006/2007 it was COLD!

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« Reply #9866 on: Jan 18th, 2014, 6:24pm »

..very cold here..with intermittent days of remarkable 70's weather..I agree, she's been groomed well,,,first class..oxford..one of the best high schools in the world..
rather than one big disclosure I am sure its like an intermission between orchestra concerts and instruments players tweaking their instruments for last second changes and a new score.. ..those are fun to watch.. grin
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« Reply #9867 on: Jan 19th, 2014, 09:08am »

Good morning Chairman Meow and all cheesy

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'Living suicide bomb' rejoins al-Qaida after Saudi deprogramming

Ahmed al-Shayea's return to arms along with other jihadis raises questions over Saudi Arabia's de-radicalisation initiative.

by Peter Beaumont
Saturday 18 January 2014 17.15 EST

Ahmed al-Shayea was known as the "living suicide bomb" – the young Saudi driver of a fuel tanker bomb in Iraq who survived to renounce violence and warn his countrymen of the dangers of jihad.

In the process he became Saudi Arabia's poster boy for a high-profile jihadi de-programming initiative whose secondary purpose is to discourage Saudis from joining al-Qaida.

With his burned face and mangled hands, Shayea was presented as a vivid warning to young Saudis about the perils of jihad and the untrustworthiness of al-Qaida, which he claimed had tricked him into driving the tanker bomb, which killed 12 people in 2004.

That was until November. Then Shayea disappeared from Saudi Arabia, only to reappear reportedly in Syria where – his Twitter feed reveals – he has rejoined the ranks of an al-Qaida franchise, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which is engaged in a civil war with other rebels fighting the Assad regime.

The case of Shayea raises questions about the effectiveness of the jihadi de-programming efforts, including the well-known Saudi model, which has boasted of rehabilitating and releasing several thousand former jihadis, including some returned by the US.

And Shayea is not the only prominent jihadi to have returned to al-Qaida. Despite long denials of any recidivism, four years ago it was revealed that Said Ali al-Shihri, a former inmate of Guantánamo who was also released to the Saudis under the same programme, had re-emerged as al-Qaida's deputy leader in Yemen, one of a number of graduates of the de-radicalisation programme to return to the group.

Khalid al-Suwid, who also fought in Iraq and was released under the same programme in 2012, is another who quickly resumed jihad. His death in Syria was announced in a martyrdom video on Facebook.

Hundreds of young Saudis have undergone the jihadi de-programming, being re-educated in prisons and rehabilitation centres, a scheme run by the interior ministry and available only to captured jihadis who demonstrate a desire to revoke their beliefs.

If Shayea's story is instructive, it is because so much is known about him. Held by US forces in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq after the fuel tanker attack, he was repatriated to Ha'ir prison in Riyadh, where he told a visiting cleric he had experienced a change of heart.

In an outreach programme similar to ones run in Egypt and Yemen at the time involving psychiatrists and clerics, Shayea was persuaded to go public, appearing on television as part of a co-ordinated campaign to persuade others not to follow him.

He had been tricked, he said in his appearances. Although he had gone to fight Americans, he added, he was not told that the tanker he drove into Baghdad was a bomb.

His message was not just aimed at Saudi Arabia's jihadis; the authorities were keen to show him off to the wider world as well. In 2007 he described rejection of jihad in an interview organised by the Saudi government with western media outlets. "I realised that all along I was wrong," Shayea told the Associated Press in a two-hour interview at a Riyadh hotel before returning to an interior ministry compound that serves as a sort of halfway house for ex-jihadis rejoining Saudi society. "There is no jihad. We are just instruments of death," he said.

When he was recruited in his home town of Buraida, Shayea was 19 and jobless. "My friend started telling me about Iraq, how Muslims are getting killed there and how we should go there for jihad," said Shayea in 2007. "He told me there were fatwas and DVDs issued by Saudi and Iraqi clergymen that called for jihad."

In another interview in the same year that was broadcast by Fox News, Shayea added: "I would like to say to the American people that Islam forbids killing innocent people."

What is puzzling about Shayea's return to al-Qaida in Syria is that – by his own account – while being treated by US forces in Iraq who had saved his life, he claims that he told his American interrogators where to find a senior al-Qaida figure in Baghdad and revealed all that he knew about the group.

Noman Benotman, president of the thinktank Quilliam, which has its own de-radicalisation work, believes that, of 4,000 to 6,000 Saudis who have gone through the scheme, only 80 to 100 have either picked up arms again or drifted back into jihadi ideology.

"You have to separate the myth from the reality of this programme. It has been largely successful, but it has not – as the Saudis have tried to claim in the past – been magic, with no cases of people returning to jihad.

"Some have gone to Syria, others to Yemen, but it is still a small number," said Benotman.

He said that graduates from the de-programming initiative had been influenced by the same narrative of the war in Syria as wider Saudi society, where Salafists have used the official attitude of the ruling family to argue that the royal family has been hypocritical over events in Syria.

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Dog Spies

Explore the science behind the dog in your bed

The Dodo Resurrects the Dog’s “Guilty” Look

By Julie Hecht
January 19, 2014

“I get it. Like you, I have known (and loved) dogs who have massacred pillows, invaded cabinets and made abstract art with toilet paper. I’ve felt confusion, disbelief, maybe even anger. And then, out of the corner of my eye, I spy the culprit with a downtrodden face, tail thumping on the ground. He knows he’s guilty.

The only problem is, it’s not what it seems. We’re duped. By ourselves.”

January 13, 2014 was a day of rebirth. It marked the resurrection of Raphus cucullatus, better known as the Dodo, a “mysterious bird we drove into extinction.” It is commonly described as “grossly obese and stupid,” although the biological accuracy of these attributions is limited.

Now, The Dodo is an online start-up exploring “our fierce and fraught bond with animals broadly and enthusiastically.” Led by Kerry Lauerman, Salon’s former Editor-in-Chief, The Dodo plans to “celebrate animals, and not just laugh at them.”

In this spirit, I joined The Dodo this weekend with Think Your Dog Has A “Guilty” Look? Think Again. The next time your dog misbehaves and “fesses up” with those big, sad eyes, think what the Dodo would say. It stinks to be misunderstood.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/dog-spies/2014/01/19/the-dodo-resurrects-the-dogs-guilty-look/

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