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« Reply #15 on: Dec 16th, 2016, 05:26am »

on Dec 14th, 2016, 11:22am, bonehead wrote:
Here is another magazine article written several years ago. It is distressing how the world fails to change over time. Despite the fact that I felt so strongly when I first wrote this piece, things have only gotten worse in the interim.

Really, this was just a cry of help from me. I had no illusions that things would change just because I wanted them to. And now I feel this distress more keenly than ever.

If anything ever happened to put those idiotic neo-darwinist ideas about evolution being an ever upward bell-curve, our present situation is it. We wallow in mire of divisive selfishness and the powers that be only want ever more of the same crap that got us in this mess. And all the politicians can offer us as a palliative is backsliding regression into our previous state.....

Lord help us. And I am an agnostic! tongue

Why Disclosure is Better than This Crap

“It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.” - Albert Einstein

Disclosure: It is the Holy Grail. It is the culmination of all those years cogitating about UFOs. It is our last hurrah, right before we UFO aficionados say “I told you so” to all of those friends and family who poked fun at us and called us weirdos - and finally become, in Nick Redfern’s words, (sorry Nick, I am paraphrasing here) “completely redundant and irrelevant”. No wonder we all look forward to it!

The truth is it will be one of the defining moments in human history. The day humanity finally acknowledges the presence of other beings in the cosmos, indeed in our midst, will be a profound day indeed. Mysteries of the universe will be revealed. Our isolation on this little blue planet will finally come to an end. It will change our world irrevocably.

Welcome to Planet Earth

Our world is like the Iraq war, it goes by Pottery Barn rules: you break it, you buy it. Except with the world, buying it is meant in the terminal sense. I don’t want to be an annoying doomsayer but, unfortunately, I read the news and pay attention to what is going on. Um, guys? If we continue to mess up our world the way we are doing, well...

I also followed the news when I was a wee lad. It was equally scary back then. It didn’t have stuff about the polar ice caps melting, fish disappearing or turning into hermaphrodites or huge “dead-zones” appearing in our oceans, or ever growing oil slicks turning the Gulf of Mexico into the grim reaper. But it did have the usual stuff about man’s distressing inability to get along peacefully with his fellow man. Like that nonsense about killing people in foreign lands because our leaders have some disagreement with their leaders and, naturally, the only way to deal with these problems is to blast each other to smithereens. You know, that kind of scary stuff.

Ugh Hit Bad Guy With Big Rock!

Look, I am not Albert Einstein, but I recognize the need for me to get along with my fellow man. If I don’t, my life becomes an odious obstacle course of misunderstandings, discord, anger, violence, retribution and general unpleasantness. Be nice to others or your life will be problematic. Duh. And it really does not take all that much effort to be nice and pleasant. Just show a little respect and consideration. I try. And, because of that, I lead a pretty pleasant life. See how that works? So, why don’t we do that on a national scale? Am I the first person to think of this? If I follow the information stream of our complicit media, I would have to think that I am.

On a national scale, it seems that selfishness is still the valued diplomatic paradigm for dealing with others. It is always my way or the highway. And if they don’t like the highway, then we devolve into idle threats to get our way. When that fails, we sharpen our knives and issue real threats. After that, the killing starts.

Really? This is the grown-ups that do this? They think this is okay? Why do we put up with this institutionalized madness? Is humanity insane? Well yeah, sorry, it is.

I always thought that this scary stuff was a bunch of nonsense promoted by childish adults who were just not aware enough to know any better. I still do. After all, I learned about good citizenship in kindergarten. Maybe the grown-ups just forgot? I also harbored this sweet but hugely unrealistic idea that, as I got older, the world would wise up and this nonsense would not cloud my adulthood. Guess what? Um, guys?

That particular loss of innocence put a real hurtin’ on my boyish optimism. So yeah, maybe I am an annoying doomsayer. But I do this because I believe we are smarter than that. If I could figure out, even as a kid, that we don’t have to do things this way then other people - even grown-ups - can do it too. But man, I am getting tired of waiting.

Ugh’s Skull Very Thick!

Humanity is like a big sluggish amoeba. There are few things that will engender an immediate and profound response - a paradigm shift in consciousness - in the lumbering galoot that is humanity. Barring major natural disasters, nuclear war or worldwide economic failure leading to global food shortages, what has the gravitas to change us?

I read the papers and I don’t see much change on the horizon. The old broken epistemological models are still deeply entrenched. We are still hitting the troglodyte in the next cave with a big rock if he doesn’t do what pleases us. We still run around bursting at the seams with pride for our nation, even while our nation thoughtlessly exploits others. We still have an economic system that reinforces selfishness while indenturing the majority of us to a life of servitude to feather the cushy nests of the privileged few. We think this elusive carrot on a stick is okay, because we all deeply long to be one of the privileged.

Yet, all humanity still lives together on this increasingly small planet. We are stuck here with our brethren. We either learn to get along - or - we suffer a perpetual history of violence, injustice and discord. Which choice have we made? Our selfishness is killing us. And I don’t see any political or social will to change. In fact, the forces of chaos are digging in their heels and becoming more belligerent about maintaining the status quo.

What Will Change Us?

Apart from instant evolution brought on by disaster, the only item I can put my finger on that would change us so profoundly would be disclosure. Here I am not talking about disclosure coming from a lying duplicitous government. I have little faith that will happen anyway, because such a disclosure puts government in the awkward situation of admitting they are serial liars. Nope. I am talking about the kind of disclosure that comes from “out there”: the big holy-moly moment of the aliens revealing themselves.

That moment when it comes, as it must eventually, holds in it the potential to change our human paradigm radically. Potential changes include: The wholesale re-positing of religion as we know it, the wholesale re-positing of material science as we know it, the potential end of human divisiveness and self-destructive tendencies and the entering of humanity into a possible larger universal brotherhood.

Such changes are all dependent on what form disclosure, and its subsequent fallout, takes. I am all too aware that disclosure may not lead to positive change. But I think this is practically the only form a human paradigm shift in consciousness can take place that does not entail much pain, strife and misery for humanity.

Ignorance can no longer be portrayed as bliss. Our ignorance is literally killing us. We cannot continue to live as we do now and expect to survive into the future. We are soiling our fragile nest while our reactionary governments only encourage us to continue this madness at an ever accelerating rate. Can’t afford an expensive and pointless war? Then do the patriotic thing: go shopping.

I don't want to be one of those annoying UFO cultists who sit on their hands waiting for the big alien in the sky to come down and save us from ourselves. But I am coming to the recognition that there are few other alternatives that do not entail major hurt for mankind.

Either way, disclosure or not, there will be some big changes coming. I hope it doesn’t hurt.


Hi Bonehead. My briefest possible response: I think disclosure already happened. Leakology beyond Crapology. (The crap was meant to preserve popular culture, plus governments sustained by our economy. Mustn't disrupt that.) Apart from that imo 99% of UFO and alien information has been introduced into the public domain, in one form or another, mostly as entertainment, nonsense/fun to be enjoyed not believed, movies and fiction over decades. Also, I believe sites like our own have got much information very much right, laughable and silly or not. (Some difficulty separating the good stuff from all the crap.)

So Bone. It's all there (if you want to look).

My guess is it's okay to know. But not to make a mess by telling (along with reasoned evidence, let alone proof) everybody. The boat must not be rocked.


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(..but reading your post, I agree there may well be a threshold approaching where mankind, as generations change, fundamentally changes their minds. When we can handle the truth and not stop paying our rents/debts, quit churches and universities en masse and stop respecting our leadership. Will be interesting to watch.)
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 16th, 2016, 11:27am »

Thanks Purr,

We can agree to disagree. I do not think disclosure has happened - at least not in the broad sense. There is plenty of evidence that the military knows more about the subject than it is letting on. Until the entire subject is above board and scientists are allowed to study and comment on the subject, there is no real disclosure.

The present situation is analogous to growing mushrooms - keep us in the dark and throw crap on us.

That our greater global culture desperately needs a change of mindset has been obvious to me since childhood. Economics is only a small part of what needs to change. The biggest thing, I believe, is putting and end to government promoted violence and militarism. We are all humans here on this planet and we all need the same things to thrive. Any moron can see that. Fighting and bickering about such things is counterproductive and has built a huge economic engine that depends on internecine strife for its existence.

Capitalism has incentivized the wrong things. When the best technology and economic engines we have are used to kill people, spy on them and manipulate them, then we have lost our way. The definition of a sociopath is:

" someone who behaves in a dangerous or violent way towards other people and does not feel guilty about such behavior"

Our governments have, for most of history been sociopathic in nature. They are anti-human! That is pretty stupid way to run a world. Antagonism is optional and not mandated by anything in our natural condition. Couple that with the rape and poisoning of our environment and you have a double-wammy perfect storm of culturally sanctioned suicidal stupidity.

That we need to change our mindsets is not even in question for me. The only problem I have with this is why do so many turn a blind-eye to the obvious...... ?? tongue

And, it is my belief that the answer to Cliff's question regarding this article, this lack of human consciousness is the expressed reason why the UFO guys have not contacted us openly and have nothing to do with us: our lack of human, (much less universal) consciousness. Until we fix that, they will leave us well alone.....

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« Reply #17 on: Dec 24th, 2016, 12:44pm »

Wisdom From Outer Space

A space guy made him do it. Daniel Fry claimed to have been given a missionary task: Nothing major, just changing the consciousness of mankind.

According to Fry, it all started on July 4th, 1950. Left without transportation at his job at the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico, he took a fateful walk into the desert evening. Upon seeing a UFO alight silently just yards away from him, he reached out to touch the ship when a disembodied voice advised him, “Better not touch the hull pal, it’s still hot!”

With this admonition began Fry’s adventure into strangeness. He was given a ride to New York in the saucer and the basics of a philosophy and science that he would teach through lectures and a small foundation he created called “Understanding”. Fry never claimed to have met extra-terrestrials. He only heard a voice in his head. But it was what the voice said that was the meat in the sandwich here. The voice was a regular encyclopedia of knowledge and insights into technical aspects of physics and the failings of human consciousness.

According to the philosophy told to Fry, there are three branches of science: Material Science (as we understand it), Social Science which involves how to get along with our fellow men and Spiritual Science which deals with the relationship between man and all creation. According to the voice, “If any civilization in the Universe is to develop fully and successfully, each of the three sciences must be pursued with equal effort and diligence. The Spiritual and Social sciences must come first. There can be no dependable development of Material Science until you have first built a firm foundation of spiritual and social science.”

Anyone can see how unbalanced our society is in this sense. Our material science is growing at an exponential rate, while our ability to get along with our fellow man or live in harmony with our planet are floundering. Thus, we utilize science to find creative ways to kill or control each other, while we recklessly despoil mother nature. Yet, we only reluctantly attach urgency to overcoming these problems. Clearly this is short sighted, destructive thinking. It is a lack of consciousness. The voice goes on:

“Unless some ways and means are found to stimulate the growth of the spiritual and social sciences on your earth, a time will inevitably come when emphasis on matters which are material instead of spiritual will cause your civilization to collapse. Your race is now in constant danger of total destruction by an agency which it has itself produced. Why should people be menaced by their own creations? Simply because they have not progressed enough spiritually and socially to enable them to determine the proper uses to which these creations should be put.”

Of course, the solution to our earthly ills is a shift in social and spiritual consciousness.

“Your race and your culture, however, are not doomed to extinction. They may continue upon their upward course until they have left this danger behind them forever. The choice, you see, is yours. This is an immutable law of the universe which operates according to the free choice of the race.

To this Fry replied, “There is little doubt which choice the people would make if they had sufficient understanding and were aware of the constructive and destructive alternatives between which they should choose.”

This gets right to the heart of our present earthly difficulties. So why have we failed to benefit from such clear-headed wisdom?

Fry died in 1992, but his writings still make interesting reading. An amazingly complete collection of them, courtesy of Sean Donavan can be found online at:

https://danielfry.com

I understand that Contactees are not a popular subject among the UFO crowd. I do not question that there is a strong visionary element to the contactees, and that their experiences may not have been literal. Fry admits that his contacts were primarily in his head.

But I also believe in a holistic approach the UFO lore. That which is deemed "supernatural" or even false or delusional all have a part of the story to tell. What I find remarkable is the great degree of agreement that is shown in the overall picture, from all sources. For example, the contactees all spoke of the danger of nuclear energy and weapons - and a lack of general consciousness. Then we find that UFOs have been surveilling Nuclear sites from the very beginning of our programs at the Hanford plant during WWII. This is documented by UFO researcher Robert Hastings:

http://www.ufohastings.com/articles

Just a coincidence?

I believe it pays to keep an open mind And if what the "space guys" say is true - or is just plain good advice, who are we to ignore them.....?

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« Reply #18 on: Dec 31st, 2016, 12:37pm »

Contactees: a Reassessment

“Even a broken clock is right twice a day.”
- American proverb

When people began reporting UFOs shortly after WWII, mainstream scientists were quick to dismiss them as imaginary. People who seriously studied UFOs were renounced as gullible crackpots and publicity hounds. In return, when the first “contactees” came on the scene shortly afterward, UFOlogists were quick to condemn them as crackpots. So the contactee movement was doubly rebuffed. These rejects were deemed too far out for the consumption of serious, um, rejects.

Way harsh dude, a movement could really develop an inferiority complex from that kind of marginalization.

Looking back at the contactee movement from 60 years on I think the initial knee-jerk rejection of the contactees was, perhaps, blinkered and premature. Since then, the more malevolent abductee phenomenon, promoted by the likes of best selling authors such as Whitley Strieber and Budd Hopkins, has become the darling of many UFO researchers. The fine line between abductee and contactee is fuzzy at best. So, are we really so jaded that emotionless space trolls brandishing anal probes have, in some bizarre manner, become more “acceptable” than benevolent “Space Brothers” espousing new-age philosophies?

And there’s the rub. The biggest objection “serious” UFOlogists had to the contactee movement was its pseudo-religious overtones. That kind of talk didn’t set well with rigid “scientific” mindsets. Early UFOlogy tended to veer toward the Jack Webb, “just the facts ma’am”, philosophy. During the ‘50s and ‘60s UFOlogists were desperate for mainstream acceptance - an acceptance, incidentally, that has yet to materialize. The best way they could convince conventional science that theirs was a valid study was to take on the conceits of the scientific approach. It is ironic that UFOlogy took on a rational-materialist, “nuts and bolts” mindset, when the study itself has been perpetually burdened with a nearly complete lack of nuts and bolts evidence.

Another objection to the contactee stories are the far out details that permeate them. Most of the stories are compromised in this way. The typical example has the Space Brothers reporting that they came from Venus or a planet hidden behind the moon. Even during the ‘50s this was hardly an acceptable notion. Scientific types were quick to point out the absurdity of these troublesome factoids. Either the Space Brothers were telling tall tales to their contacts or the contactees were making the stories up. When in doubt, it was easy to condemn the contactees as fraudulent. After all, they were the most marginal of the already marginalized UFO community. What self-respecting UFOlogist could tolerate the weight of philosophy spouting “Venusians” hanging around their necks?

But, I feel there is a pervasive sincerity to the contactee stories. Even though the details differ from story to story, there is a remarkable uniformity to the overall messages they convey. Certainly, if all of the contactees were liars or confabulators, we would expect to see some divergence between the ultimate trajectories of their tall tales. Strangely, this is not the case. Instead, we see the same themes repeated over and over. Would liars and charlatans really be so preoccupied with the proliferation of nuclear weapons and the spiritual growth of mankind? And, why do these very same themes recur in the later, supposedly more “acceptable”, alien abduction cases?

Either there are some astronomically improbable coincidences here, or some mysterious agency has been trying to send us a message. And, just in case we missed it the first time around, they keep sending out those same messages over and over again.

Messengers of the New Age

From our present perspective, many of the presumptions of the ‘50s look silly and unsophisticated. But it is important to remember that the contactees and their followers were a product of their time.

The early ‘50s, when most of these stories originated, were an era of uncertainty. World War II was still fresh in everybody’s minds. People wanted to forget the war and move on with their lives. But the war had spawned the atomic bomb. And it established the delicate political balance of the Cold War era. The divisions between East and West were not just political, they were ideological as well. There seemed little room for agreement between the conflicting visions of Communist Russia on one side and the Western Nations on the other. With both sides possessing atomic weapons the constant threat of nuclear annihilation was palpable. The emotional edginess this caused was reflected in the hysterical, fear induced, persecutions of the McCarthy era.

The natural response to this uncertainty was a popular taste for escapist entertainment. It was easier to forget such troubles if people put them out of their minds. So they filled their heads with TV, comic books, cheesy pulp magazines and fantastic movies about marauding “Martians”. It was no coincidence that UFO Invader movies became popular. They reflected collective fears about nuclear war, coupled with the pop-culture trend toward space age fantasies.

So, why do the contactee stories veer away from the themes of popular fiction and movies, instead promoting brotherhood, responsible living and putting an end to war? It is easy to understand why the contactees attracted followers. They provided stimulation of people’s fantasies, while offering a more utopian vision for society. This is a pretty potent brew for people with very real fears. I prefer to think that, far from simply being a bunch of uncritical bubble-heads, the contactees and their followers were space age idealists at a time when idealism was in short supply. The contactees provided a needed outlet for people stuck between a darkly threatening world, on one side, and an overly technological, secular mindset on the other.

But this still leaves those patently phony details. If we assume, for a moment, that the contactees actually had the experiences they claim, then how can we explain this?

By the ‘50s Einstein’s theory of relativity had pretty well eliminated the possibility of interstellar travel. Since, nothing (supposedly) could travel faster than the speed of light, traveling to stars that were hundreds, thousands or even millions of light years distant clearly was not a thing that any man could expect to accomplish in a lifetime. 1950s science could not get to grips with anything greater than interplanetary travel. Looking to the stars was not an option.

Anybody with a smattering of contemporary scientific knowledge would immediately reject any ideas of beings that traveled from distant stars or galaxies. Ironically, the details that make these stories seem so preposterous from a modern perspective, are the very details that would have seemed believable in the 1950s. So, what is a Space Brother to do?

If there is anything of lasting worth to come from the Contactees, it is the messages they bring to humanity. Their focus on spiritual values and the patently hokum details of their travels seem to have been tailor-made to subject them to widespread rejection and ridicule. Yet, in the face of torrents of resistance, they insisted on the reality of their stories and the importance of their “missions”. These people attracted loyal followers who also experienced ridicule. But, in the dark crucible of a hostile world these people clung to their values of universal brotherhood and responsible living.

These messengers of a New Age deliver a potent wake-up call to humanity. The importance and urgency of their message seems no less relevant today than it was in the naïve era of the ‘50s. Sadly, humanity has not improved in the intervening years.

The ultimate reality of the Contactee’s stories is an academic question: Did they really have the experience’s they claim? Their stories have been rejected by nearly everybody save their faithful followers. In this particular, they are no different from so many Prophets before them. But in the rush to judgment about the reality of their stories, the messages the Contactees delivered have been glossed over. Once you have slain the messenger it is easy to ignore their message.

But I think that is very short sighted. If you take the trouble to evaluate these messages with an open mind, it is easy to appreciate that these people really did have something of lasting value to convey to society. We reject what they had to say about us at our peril.

If that is true, then I can only conclude that: It was never about the messengers, it was about THE MESSAGE.


I recognize that my position on the conatctees is not popular. But since I take the view that it is not about the messenger (the position that preoccupies most UFO devotees) but the message, then the conatctees can be seen as kitsch cultural prophets and pop-culture myth makers which I believe is their rightful place in UFO lore....

http://ufofacts.org/contactees/contact.htm

Here is yet the same message delivered again in a another form. This one has always fascinated me:



Here is an article about the broadcast:

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/repost-1977-vrillon-ashtar-galactic-command-incident-0

Enjoy!

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« Reply #19 on: Dec 31st, 2016, 1:37pm »

Sorry Folks, more proselytizing....

Raelism vs. Realism

Raelism is a theological counterpart to post modern Realism. Spawned by claimed Contactee Claude Vorilhon (a.k.a. Rael), the Raelian movement is a contemporary saucer cult. In this respect Vorilhon is perhaps the most successful of all Contactees.

The modern UFO era started at the end of WWII, when we first unleashed nuclear weapons onto the world. Early UFO activity was particularly heavy in New Mexico, where our atomic bomb development took place and where the only vetted Nuclear Bomber Squadron in the world, the 509th Bomb Group, was based at Roswell. The Contactees (who began proliferating like rabbits in the early fifties) came to speak out about the calamitous danger of nuclear weaponry and our urgent human need for developing a more cooperative, compassionate and spiritually oriented social structure.

If the Contactees were nothing but a bunch of liars and charlatans, then why were their messages so uniform? Do fantasists and flim-flam men all speak the same philosophic language? Just because they might have been liars or opportunists, does that mean that their message was just a load of snake oil? The proof is in the pudding. Personally, I don’t care whether their material came from handsome Venusians or off the back of a cereal box. Good advice is good advice.

UFOlogy has roundly dismissed the Contactees as bogus and unworthy of serious consideration. Yet, when the abductee phenomenon caught fire during the early ‘80s, we find the same prophetic messages being delivered again, albeit in a far less digestible manner, by the persistent telepathic messages and visual dooms-day scenarios shown to abductees during their experiences. UFOlogy was willing to accept these messages coming from anal-probe brandishing space trolls while rejecting the similar, but much less discombobulating, messages imparted by the Contactees and their cosmic space brothers.

Have we become so jaded that distressing interdimensional kidnappers have become more palatable than benevolent new-age philosophers?

So, what about those laughable Raeliens? Clearly Vorilhon seems to have capitalized on his position by developing a quasi-religious movement which avails him of free room and board for life and the constant presence of sexually free-spirited womanhood in the luxurious Raelian compound. Whatever we may think of all of this convenient good fortune for Rael, and the patently hokey trappings of his movement, he has followed the example of previous Contactees and hewed to philosophical principles of good will, brotherhood and peaceful cooperation. Even if one must drink the proffered koolaid to rub shoulders with Rael, in the end Raelism does not actually suck.

But out here in the Real world, we still actively engage in destructive conspicuous consumption, “free enterprise” which continues to exult in selfishness and the resulting economic injustices imposed by the haves on the have nots, and the gritty “realism” of a fear based governing system which depends on the continuous demonizing of others so that we can justify the institutionalized serial murder we euphemistically call “protecting our freedoms” with a clear conscience. We continue to ignore those prophetic warnings about the dangers of nuclear weaponry while, every tin-horn leader the world round covets his turn to hug the atomic tiki-god: nuclear annihilation.

We humans have been a truly bumbling race. We decry "God" as some wrathful beast for not intervening on our behalf and saving us from our frequently self inflicted troubles. We are, more often than not, the agents of our own miseries, invariably caused by our selfish desires and a failure to grasp the required mindset for living on our small planet in peace, justice and harmony.

So much for post modern Nietzschean “Realism”….

Have we not been shown a pathway to our salvation at every turn? Sages, shamans and oracles have always given us philosophies and warnings for turning the destructive course of man toward more constructive outcomes. The knowledge has always been here. The fact that we fail to heed it is not due to a wrathful god or a cruel Nietzschean universe, but due to our own arrogance and lack of humility and insight.

Those messages are out there. They keep on coming. They come to us through any number of different mediums. They say we simply need to learn to get along with each other. That is the only thing the great prophets, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Rodney King ever asked of us.

Yet, we smugly laugh at the naivety of those silly Contactees and their cockamamie stories and beliefs.

So, what is wrong with living in a world sans nuclear weapons and where peace and brotherhood are the primary social goals? Given a choice, I know which world I would rather live in. I do not advocate that we all sign up to become Raelians. I firmly believe they are nuttier than squirrel turds. But, let’s face it: Living in the “Rael” world still looks a helluva lot more attractive than living in our “Real” world.

Maybe it is high-time we scoffers and “realists” started to get some of that Rael Contactee religion for ourselves, eh?

Just sayin'....

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« Reply #20 on: Dec 31st, 2016, 4:00pm »

Boney, that story of ra-el reminded me of a movie.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn8a85HrCNU

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 14th, 2017, 11:54am »

One of my all time favorite Sabbath songs - not only because it rocks but because it expresses things I have been thinking since I was a child. And also the stuff I have been posting here from some of my writings.....



War and political antagonism are not natural states of being. They are diseases of the collective consciousness imposed on us by the forces of popular thought. Popular thought, at present is a cesspool of lies and polarized antagonisms. We all suffer from this. I believe nobody benefits from wallowing in this crap.

But I guess that is just me.... ??
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 19th, 2017, 11:58am »

Contact: Falling Short of Expectations

Contact has become both a cliché and a durable cultural icon. The concept is embodied in many cartoons, movies and the like with aliens respectfully asking, “Take me to your leader”. Our presumably lonely sojourn on this planet has lead to a great deal of daydreaming and speculation on the subject. There have been, movies, TV programs, fiction books and speculative essays written about contact. Then there are those other stories where contact results in a much less healthy experience for we humans.

Even UFO debunker Carl Sagan took a stab with his novel “Contact”, which was later made into a movie. Sagan was very active in the SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) program as well as his involvement with many of our unmanned space exploration missions. It was perhaps inevitable that his book chose the SETI route to contact. As a conservative scientist, the speed of light had to be considered as a limitation – so no itinerant aliens traversing the cosmos in spaceships for him.

Then we have our credulous friends in the Exopolitics movement. They are so wrapped up in the concept of contact, that they busy themselves fabricating myths and protocols based on channeled teachings, anonymous alien messages and lord knows what other wacky stuff. Hey, if you work in a vacuum you can fill it with whatever crap you like. Sagan did it too. And let’s not forget those frequently maligned folks, the Contactees.

There is fodder here for scientists, UFOlogists, fantasists and realists alike. The theme of contact extends straight across multiple interests, studies and belief systems. In its breadth, it is a true Jungian archetype.

Did Star Trek Get It Wrong?

For me, the most interesting element of our contact myths is what these speculations say about the human psyche. Aside from those cheesy saucer invasion flicks, where death, destruction and mayhem are the order of the day, most contact scenarios revolve around an exchange and communication based on curiosity and attempted connection, if not on relative equality. And the “others” are usually depicted as relatively comprehensible beings somewhat like us. This is perhaps best exemplified by the TV series “Star Trek” with its “prime directive” and lively exchanges between humans and aliens who mostly seem like quirky or cantankerous neighbors. You know, like folks in your own neighborhood.

Star Trek also clinged to popular sentiment about human virtue and superiority. The show portrayed our altruism projected out into the universe where, in typical American fashion, we become the self-appointed policemen in a fractious and morally challenged universe. Certainly this is myth in every sense of that word.

Our history has recorded an ongoing relationship with entities, from the sky, the sea and even from seemingly "nowhere" at all. Our cultural myths, religious texts and histories are replete with tales of contact. Perhaps we do not usually acknowledge this because we humans have invariably seemed but mere tools in these exchanges. The contacts only happen on their terms. They invariably show the “others” as superior to us spiritually, technologically and intellectually.

But this runs counter to our instinctive self-aggrandizement. For instance, it is difficult to imagine Captain Kirk trading macho posturing banter with Whitley Strieber’s ontologically elusive grays. In fact I imagine that once Kirk cleans the mess out of his shorts, the grays would more likely be reading him the riot act. This is not the way the story was supposed to go. Kirk is out of his element. We are boldly going nowhere but straight down Alice’s discomfiting rabbit hole. For us the primary product of contact has been mystification. That is not the egalitarian contact of our popular myths – where is the foregone acknowledgement of our sentience? Kirk is irrelevant without at least token respect from the other guys.

I Got Your Contact, Right Here

First contact has already happened. To suggest that we have not been contacted is to discard the idea of UFOs altogether. Either “they” have already shown themselves - repeatedly - or UFOs are only fairy tales just as the debunkers suggest. And that is not all. Religious texts and cultural myths equally show a rich tapestry of contact. Even if you do not equate “Chariots of the Gods” with UFOs, those stories are, unequivocally, about human contact with “others” of mysterious origin. How is that not contact? Several of our primary religions are based on such contact.

If you follow those myths far enough, we could be the ultimate result of earlier contacts. The late Zecharia Sitchin’s book, “There Were Giants Upon the Earth” was his parting shot to the ancient alien mythos. In it he claims that the smoking gun for historical alien contact, and perhaps even human origins, may be residing in the British Natural History Museum in London. He offers some pretty compelling evidence for this. Too bad it will probably take an act of god himself to get the stuffed shirts at the museum to do some DNA testing and satisfy our curiosity. But then that has the potential to upset more apple carts than just contact myths alone.

Paleoanthropologists continue to believe there will be Darwinist confirmation in the form of a missing link between man and ancient apes. It seems every time they discover new examples of "proto-humans”, rather than clearly showing linkages with our assumed primitive ancestors, the family tree only becomes more convoluted with detours and dead-end cutoffs that fail to support long-held notions of direct linear descent.

Perhaps the "missing link" is not anything from this earth. Many religious texts and cultural myths take this position, if we read them with an open mind. They suggest we are products of ancient proto-humans and other beings implicitly superior to us. That could explain the lack of an "intermediate" link because, technically speaking, WE are the intermediate form - and the more evolved form is somewhere out there.

This master/human, God/man, alien/specimen, creator/created relationship is reflected in so many of our cultural, UFOlogical and religious myths that it is unnecessary to enumerate them. Clearly, those referred to as "gods" are invariably seen as superior beings, and we as their humble servants. Perhaps this ongoing unequal historical relationship suggests a cause for our subconscious human feelings of inferiority. Subliminal feelings of unworthiness could fuel those ego-inflating cultural myths revolving around human superiority. That could also explain our, almost needy, concepts around contact.

Contact From the Other Perspective

So if we have already experienced contact, then why don’t they land and make themselves known to us? Isn’t that the essence of our popular myths around contact? If we propose the UFO as a representative for the other, then why do we get no respect?

Contactee George King who founded the Aetherius Society, claimed to have received an explanation for this in 1956:

“I ask my brothers from Terra who require as a sign a landing of one of our craft in a prominent position, to give us a sign. What sign do we require?

"Their goodwill, their complete open minded honesty and their proof that if we reveal to them the secrets of the vibrations of crystals, these secrets will be used for the benefit of all. We would only be instrumental in taking Terra back another 70 decades if we gave the secrets of our gravitational control to you now. Would it benefit the ordinary man? It would not. It would be used for belligerent purposes, a belligerence which would be covered by the camouflage of defense. Then science know this: when you give unto us a sign, then will we give unto you a sign, the sign which you now require. This will be accepted as the measure of your goodwill."


Apart from the smarmy language, it is hard to argue that this statement is not an accurate appraisal. It is indisputable that our number one priority for advanced technology is for military purposes. This draconian impulse no doubt has served to conceal much present technology from the world at large under the guise of “national security”. That paradoxical euphemism is actually a fig leaf to conceal our fundamental insecurity. And if we weren’t so jumpy and impulsive, perhaps there would be no reason for concerns about “national security” at all.

In a different vein, a contact case from the 1960s included a statement that might provide further insight. On December 3, 1967, Ashland Nebraska Police Sergeant, Herbert Schirmer encountered a UFO at a rural crossroad where he experienced missing time. Under hypnosis he detailed an encounter with alien beings that took him on a tour of their ship and told him many things, including this:

“They have been observing us for a long period of time and they think that if they slowly, slowly put out reports and have their contacts state the truth it will help them. He is explaining that to a certain extent that they want to puzzle people. They know they are being seen too frequently and they are trying to confuse the public’s mind.”

Hey, mission accomplished! We have lots of confusion but not much illumination.

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« Reply #23 on: Jan 19th, 2017, 12:00pm »

Yeah, Thanks Captain Buzz-kill

Yeah, I know. That is not the kind of contact we hope for. It mostly leaves us scratching our heads. But most crushingly it leaves us essentially alone. At least for now, contact is not the soul-fulfilling communion of popular myth. If we follow contemporary UFO myths, the “others” are still dictating the terms of contact. They are inscrutable specters while we are little more than their hapless lab specimens.

That makes things like Exopolitics, “prime directives” and even Kirk himself little more than superfluous and unrequited fantasies. Hell, I’ll take the “The Trouble With Tribbles” over the present one-sided relationship any day. Don’t we generally get the shaft in this scenario? Yeah, I thought so. Then I guess gratuitous quips about anal probes would be redundant.

References:

“Mungo Man” an article about another dead-end proto-human :

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2001/01/01/2813404.htm

Aetherius Society website, “Why They Don’t Land Openly”:

http://66.241.250.4/index.cfm?app=content&SectionID=59&PageID=80

“Gods and Devils From Outer Space” by Eric Norman, Lancer Books, 1973; pg. 147

Anyway, there is my two cents on "contact"......

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« Reply #24 on: Jan 24th, 2017, 11:39am »

If attempting to follow the above links to the Aetherius Society's website you will find my link is now defunct. The actual quote has been taken down and only bits of it are there now.

However, I feel that this link gives impetus to my arguments about human origins. In fact, this trumps the promise suggested in Sitchin's last book "There were Giants Upon the Earth":

http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/545/DNA-Analysis-Of-Paracas-Elongated-Skulls-Released-The-Results-Prove-They-Were-Not-Human#.UvuB4qvRSy0.email

In point of fact, I would suggest that the "Ancient Alien" angle is the most fruitful avenue for discussion about potential "aliens". There are plenty of stories from the 19th century and earlier of giant skeletons dug up in various places around the globe (particularly the ancient mounds in the midwest of the U.S.). As with UFOLogy in general, there is a lot of BS out there concerning this stuff. But there are also a great number of stories that seem to hold up - even if the evidence has vanished over time.

Certainly, for a person interested in real research, this would be potentially more fruitful than the study of UFOs which, by their nature, are transitory phenomena....

https://www.pinterest.com/dannydawg/archeology-evidence-of-giants/

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« Reply #25 on: Jan 24th, 2017, 2:44pm »

BONEY,

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"In point of fact, I would suggest that the "Ancient Alien" angle is the most fruitful avenue for discussion about potential "aliens". There are plenty of stories from the 19th century and earlier of giant skeletons dug up in various places around the globe (particularly the ancient mounds in the midwest of the U.S.). As with UFOLogy in general, there is a lot of BS out there concerning this stuff. But there are also a great number of stories that seem to hold up - even if the evidence has vanished over time."

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INDEED ~ "the "Ancient Alien" angle is the most fruitful avenue for discussion about potential "aliens"" TEMPERED THE/A STEW OF FRAGMENTED EVIDENCE ~ WORTHY OF MAINTAINING AN OPEN MIND!

SPEAKING OF OPEN MIND ~ I'D BE KEEN ON PERUSING, AS I'M SURE MANY HERE WOULD...THE ARCHIVED ARTICLES YOU'VE WRITTEN ON THIS AND SIMILAR TOPICS!

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on Jan 24th, 2017, 2:44pm, ZETAR wrote:
BONEY,

TO WIT:



SPEAKING OF OPEN MIND ~ I'D BE KEEN ON PERUSING, AS I'M SURE MANY HERE WOULD...THE ARCHIVED ARTICLES YOU'VE WRITTEN ON THIS AND SIMILAR TOPICS!


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Shalom Zetar!

Well, as stated on page one of this thread, these articles are from my monthly magazine column or the UFO Magazine blog posts. So, you are seeing them already. There are many more that i have not posted yet. Of course these articles are several years old. But nothing much has changed in ufology since they were first published so they are still timely today.

But the above link of an article on the elongated Peru skulls is an example of an update that is quite relevant to the article. And, indeed, I think it is one of the most remarkable news articles I have seen on the subject in some time. It relates directly to our subject and, what's more, supplies solid incontrovertible material evidence for the presence of unidentified humanoid species in our past history....

That is pretty awesome, if you ask me! kiss

Stay tuned kids!

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