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« Reply #1740 on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 08:05am »

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Trees That Talk: The Bizarre World of Plant Communication

Micah Hanks
July 2, 2017

Back in the 1960s, CIA interrogation expert Cleve Backster had been conducting experiments with polygraph machines when he stumbled onto something novel. He noticed what appeared to be a change in electrical resistance with one of the plants, to which he connected the polygraph equipment, whenever he removed a leaf, or even “threatened” to harm the plant by intent alone. He likened this sudden electrical pulse to a “scream” emitted by the plant in response to endangerment.

While Backster’s theory was considered a crackpot idea, many would follow with similar, unusual observations about the behavior of plants, which seemingly represented a sort of “communication” they might be capable of. For instance, a 1989 AP article discussed what one physicist, named Ed Wagner, believed were evidences he found of plant communication via what he called “W-waves”:

Physicist Ed Wagner says he has found evidence that trees talk to each other in a language he calls W-waves. “If you chop into a tree, you can see that adjacent trees put out an electrical pulse,” said Wagner. “This indicates that they communicated directly.”

Explaining the phenomenon, Wagner pointed to a blip on a strip chart recording of the electrical pulse. “It put out a tremendous cry of alarm,” he said. “The adjacent trees put out smaller ones…. People have known there was communication between trees for several years, but they’ve explained it by the chemicals trees produce,” Wagner said. “But I think the real communication is much quicker and more dramatic than that,” he said. “These trees know within a few seconds what is happening. This is an automatic response.”

Wagner has measured the speed of W-waves at about 3 feet per second through the air. “They travel much too slowly for electrical waves,” he said. “They seem to be an altogether different entity. That’s what makes them so intriguing. They don’t seem to be electromagnetic waves at all.”

Another physicist, William Corliss, also took interest in Wagner’s discovery, noting that, “The voltage measured by electrodes implanted in trees goes up and down as one goes higher and higher up the trees… incidentally, electricity does seem to affect plant growth.”

In more recent years, the idea of plants that are capable of forms of “communication” has been considered a bit more thoughtfully, and is not outright shunned by the scientific community. One leading modern researcher and advocate for the varieties of ways that plants communicate is Suzanne Simard, whose work with plants has helped set new precedents for how interactions between various species of flora occurs. Simard’s research began to coalesce around what became a doctoral thesis two decades ago, in which she argued that a variety of communication methods were used by trees to achieve everything from expressing their needs, to sharing nutrients “via a network of latticed fungi buried in the soil.” She further studied the varieties of ways that fungal filigrees were exploited by trees in ways that allowed them to send signals to other plants nearby about changes in the environment, and even “helping” endangered plants by transferring and sharing nutrients with them.

Speaking with Yale Environment 360 last year, she talked about how, as she puts it, a forest “is a cooperative system,” saying:

“To me, using the language of ‘communication’ made more sense because we were looking at not just resource transfers, but things like defense signaling and kin recognition signaling. We as human beings can relate to this better. If we can relate to it, then we’re going to care about it more. If we care about it more, then we’re going to do a better job of stewarding our landscapes.”

Despite having communicative abilities, plants generally aren’t deemed to have any sort of intelligence. However, there are still some members of the scientific community that argue this is not necessarily the case. Author and researcher Michael Pollan, who studies the field of plant neurobiology, argues that plants are more perceptive than many would think:

“They have analagous structures… They have ways of taking all the sensory data they gather in their everyday lives … integrate it and then behave in an appropriate way in response. And they do this without brains, which, in a way, is what’s incredible about it, because we automatically assume you need a brain to process information.”

Understanding the ways that various life forms on Earth communicate and cooperate with each other gives us a much broader sense of what “life on Earth” is truly about. It also challenges us to consider whether there are more complex systems of interaction between organisms, including those which aren’t deemed intelligent, or even responsive, by humans.

In the case of plants, it seems unusual that these organisms, while deemed to be very much alive, have long been relegated to being unresponsive and “vegetative,” in the most literal sense. Maybe it’s indeed time we start paying closer attention to our floral kindred, and the subtleties of their interactions with each other and their environment.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/07/trees-that-talk-the-bizarre-world-of-plant-communication/

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Good afternoon all ! cool

You're welcome Crystal !

You all are amazing !!!.....just sayin' kiss

Congrats NASA and Happy Anniversary on the Mars Missions(s)...!!!

Have a safe and happy 4th everyone. The fireworks here were amazing last night. They pulled a double. Another one is coming up on the 4th. It will be a 1 year anniversary to date for me and my girlfriend also.

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on Jul 2nd, 2017, 2:06pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Good afternoon all ! cool

You're welcome Crystal !

You all are amazing !!!.....just sayin' kiss

Congrats NASA and Happy Anniversary on the Mars Missions(s)...!!!

Have a safe and happy 4th everyone. The fireworks here were amazing last night. They pulled a double. Another one is coming up on the 4th. It will be a 1 year anniversary to date for me and my girlfriend also.

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cheesy Congratulations on your one year anniversary Cliff!

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Will truth about 'UFO crash' in Roswell desert 70 years ago ever be known?

EXACTLY 70 years ago this week arguably the world's most notorious UFO mystery began after an "object" crashed near a ranch in the desert on the outskirts of Roswell, New Mexico.

By Jon Austin
PUBLISHED: 11:44, Tue, Jul 4, 2017

Despite countless alien investigators pouring over the "evidence" from the alleged UFO crash which reportedly included aliens, both alive and dead inside the wreckage, the riddle has never been solved to everyone's satisfaction.

This weekend saw the town's 50,000 population almost double as UFO enthusiasts from across the globe flocked to the mecca.

On July 7 1947 rancher W W Brazel told Sheriff George Wilcox he had found "something strange" on his sheep ranch on the outskirts of Roswell.

Mr Brazel stumbled across some rubber, foil, and other debris on the ground and told the sheriff who alerted the nearby Army base air field.

Major Jesse Marcel, an intelligence officer, was sent to investigate.

Mr Marcel was apparently convinced the rancher had found the world's first evidence of aliens and what they were looking at were the remains of a flying saucer.

He, in turn, reported this up the chain, prompting duty press officer Walter Haut, at the now notorious Nevada Area 51 base, to send this out in a news release.

The following day's edition of the local paper, the Roswell Daily Record, unsurprisingly had the dream headline: "RAAF CAPTURES FLYING SAUCER ON RANCH IN ROSWELL REGION”.

But next came a big U-turn and still no sign of actual aliens.

Perhaps in 1947 people would have thought a cosmos travelling flying saucer would be made from foil, rubber, tape, paper and wood, as Mr Brazel found.

But the day of the news report, the RAAF retracted its original release and said what was found were the parts of a downed weather balloon.

The paper duly printed a follow-up in which Mr Brazel spoke of his embarrassment to have got "worked up over nothing".

But by now the snowball had started, and it was gathering pace.

No one was interested in the follow up story, and the original first went national and then global, even without the internet, and in Roswell, USA the world's UFO capital was born.

It was also the birth of the conspiracy theorist, whereby the unimaginable is more likely to be the case than the rational.

Instantly, claims were made that the military had found a craft, but they did not want news getting out and the weather balloon story was quickly made up as a cover.


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