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« Reply #3030 on: Jan 7th, 2018, 5:36pm »

on Jan 7th, 2018, 5:06pm, INT21 wrote:
...A 20,000-YEAR-OLD TRANSFORMER FOUND IN KOSOVO..

And on what does the author base the claim that it is a transformer ?

All I see is what appears to be part of a coil winding.

also if anyone cares to look at the list of subjects at the right hand side of the link then there is certainly room for some skepticism.

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I can speak from authority on this because I have seen and designed transformers. Looks to me like windings, core and 4 terminals. The 4 terminals give further evidence that it is probably a 2 winding design - isolated primary secondary. The equal size of the wire (windings) suggest most likely a 1:1 turns ratio perhaps wound bifilar for better coupling. Voltages can't be too great as there looks like minimal insulation on the wires. Current probably low too because of wire size. If it looks like a transformer and smells like a transformer it has to be a transformer. My opinion is that it was an isolation transformer used to help reduce ground loop noise on very delicate instruments on an ET probe to sniff for life. The craft crashed and molten rock flowed all over the place from a nearby erupting volcano perhaps set off from the vibrations of the crash.

My dissapointment with this is that because it is ancient it sort of blows a hole in Tesla being some super genius. He clearly stole his ideas from these ancients.

This find is, of course, making the rounds on sites and blogs supporting advanced ancient civilization ideas. I give permission to use my analysis above if it helps.
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« Reply #3031 on: Jan 7th, 2018, 7:10pm »

ED,

I would argue that you are reading too much into this (if you are simply not being a naughty horse and pulling firmly on out collective legs) as there really isn't enough information to allow for that conclusion.

Speaking as an ex industrial electrician apprentice, Maintenance mechanic/electrician for a food factory, lifelong fiddler with things electric and electronic and a (dropped out) Bachelor of Engineering, Electronic Systems and Controls undergraduate,

I will agree that there could be something about it that resembles a toroidal transformer. But what is the bit passing through the centre ? The bit that looks suspiciously like part of a food mixer (the fast acting thread) and the pieces of what appears to be winding insulation papers close to the centre would suggest to me that maybe it was part of a motor of decidedly Earthly origin.

Maybe when we have a few more pictures ?

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« Reply #3032 on: Jan 7th, 2018, 8:43pm »



Here we go again..They ask if the ETs millions of years ago were around why aren't there fossilized batteries or transistors deep in the ground..and when Ismet Smaili (pronounced ish me smiley) finds something just like that (snapping fingers) eager know it alls just want to explain it away..

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And what if it were an alien Food mixer? so what? ..they have to process and eat just like us..It doesn't matter if it was on slow fast or frapee' that disproves nothing!. What you have is something that does not belong there. It might be a food mixer from Cerns employee kitchen, displaced in time where it could appear under the ocean, or molten rock aeons ago....just like here!
I'm sorry Hal..In this case.. I have to go with Ed on this one..he sounded more like an engineer than you do..

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« Reply #3033 on: Jan 7th, 2018, 9:03pm »

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HMMM... THE SKEPTICS EXPLANTION FOR "composition differs from the surrounding material and having convex bands in a circle resembling a carving and it is also fused into a stone" SOME 20,000 YEARS PRIOR TO THIS...

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William Stanley, Albert Schmid is equipped with knowledge of the European advancements and then develops the first reliable transformer - it uses a soft iron core and adjustable gaps to regulate the amount of Electromagnetic Field in the secondary winding.

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LIKE...SOMEONE HAD A 20,000/19,800 YEAR HEAD START WOULDN'T YOU SAY? cool

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« Reply #3034 on: Jan 7th, 2018, 9:31pm »

A cowboy appeared before St. Peter at the Pearly Gates.

"Have you ever done anything of particular merit?" St. Peter asked.

"Well, I can think of one thing," the cowboy offered. "On a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota, I came upon a gang of bikers who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone, but they wouldn't listen.

So, I approached the largest and most tattooed biker and smacked him in the face, kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring, and threw it on the ground. I yelled, 'Now, back off or I'll kick the s... out of all of you!'"

St. Peter was impressed, "When did this happen?"

"Couple of minutes ago."

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« Reply #3035 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 07:12am »

on Jan 7th, 2018, 9:31pm, Swamprat wrote:
A cowboy appeared before St. Peter at the Pearly Gates.

"Have you ever done anything of particular merit?" St. Peter asked.

"Well, I can think of one thing," the cowboy offered. "On a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota, I came upon a gang of bikers who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone, but they wouldn't listen.

So, I approached the largest and most tattooed biker and smacked him in the face, kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring, and threw it on the ground. I yelled, 'Now, back off or I'll kick the s... out of all of you!'"

St. Peter was impressed, "When did this happen?"

"Couple of minutes ago."

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So good! I would steal this but it won't all fit on Twitter. But I might try anyway. grin

Thanks for that laugh Swamprat. I think waaaay back when before I was married I dated a cowboy like that.

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« Reply #3036 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 07:15am »

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« Reply #3037 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 2:35pm »

So where are the rest of the pictures of this Kosovo 'thing' ?

When the Antikythera mechanism was discovered there were pages of information. Whole books full of erudite explanations by learned archeologists etc

What do we have here ?

Two shots of something that is sat on a floor.

Where is the presentation ?

Why isn't it set up properly on a table at least where people can walk around it and take lots of different hi-resolution pictures ?

Why does the background look like Slobodan's back yard ?

Where is the metallurgical analysis ?

Where are the X-ray pictures showing the internal construction ?

It's all bull, my esteemed colleagues, all bull.

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« Reply #3038 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 2:43pm »

Sys,

..And what if it were an alien Food mixer? so what?..

If that is the best the aliens can offer in food mixed technology it is no wonder their ufos keep crashing .

ZETAR,

we are not considering that type of transformer, more the toroidal type.

Odd how the inter winding papers have survived for so long.

And the copper windings.

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« Reply #3039 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 3:28pm »

Being a purist of a sort I didn't want to mix this song with all the
others in that "other" thread..It's the cats meow..going straight to the heart..grin




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« Reply #3040 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 3:52pm »

Some more ancient transformer pictures along with a schematic (3 phase transformer!) from this website:

http://mamul.am/en/news/102528/in-kosovo-found-a-transformer-that-is-20-000-years-old

That stone material reminds me of ceramic insulators like seen on power poles. They must be talking some serious high voltage to be using that stuff! Maybe this thing is a pre-cursor to a Tesla Coil however it's inconsistent with the schematic. Maybe generating 3 phase 50/60HZ from an unknown power source?

More cool stuff here too:
http://greaterancestors.com/sharr-mountains-transformer/

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Here's a picture of electrical measurements being taken so this should quiet the doubting Tommy's who say there is no scientific study taking place. Is the meter reading 964 Ohms? 964 seems like a strange unique number that could have some significance.

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« Reply #3041 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 5:59pm »

The ceramics, wiring, schematics...That certainly is an eyefull Ed..I made up in my mind already and willing to bet the farm...There is a veritable graveyard of buried ancient technology out there just waiting..just itching to be discovered..
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It must have looked like magic to the ancient workers ruled by a civilization almost as advanced as ours..after all we reversed a lot of it from captured fragments of crashes..and look..almost indistinguishable from our own circuitry!
I can only imagine what they must be using now..and hope they keep crashing so we can reverse the latest ones too..If they learned to use seatbelts..we may just be able to capture one alive..It's in our DNA to always have an edge..and if there is one species in the universe that is good at stealing stuff..it's ours..those humans..you have to love em! grin
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« Reply #3042 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 6:34pm »

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"hope they keep crashing so we can reverse the latest ones too"

ONE MUST CONSIDER SUCH CRASHES MAY HAVE BEEN BY DESIGN (SEEDING OF TECHNOLOGY)...NUDGE FORTH HUMANS grin

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« Reply #3043 on: Jan 8th, 2018, 8:18pm »

Thats why we at Casbook must be ever ready!!...we might get somethin these will fit.

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