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xx Roswell Alien Slides to be Released
« Thread started on: Feb 5th, 2015, 11:15pm »

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 5th, 2015, 11:59pm »

kodachrome slides you say?
hmmm I never had those dangled in front like a caret before and wait until May..what is there special about May?grin

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« Reply #2 on: Feb 6th, 2015, 06:05am »

Well, as we have been reminded many times, no photo or video will ever prove it or other things.

Some expert may verify the film material is authentic but they can never prove the authenticity of the subject matter itself.

My prediction: The film material will not be identified from 1947 but rather a range of years. There will be controversy surrounding the film expert and there will be no precise 1947 confirmation from other film historians. The date of exposure and processing will have the same issues. The analysis will not be able to eliminate the possibility that the captured images were staged prior to exposure. The images themselves will be vague and inconclusive but will be regarded as proof of Roswell aliens more so based on film material being real vs. verification of the subject matter. In a nutshell, the hype will far exceed the outcome. We'll see.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 6th, 2015, 09:33am »

Here we go again......another controversy that will have those in the ufo arena taking sides.

Interestingly the article says they don't look like the normal 'aliens' being touted in the past so I'm curious what they look like.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 6th, 2015, 12:38pm »

Ed and Doc both of you are very spot on..its deja vu again
The new alien as the carrot on a string is the nice draw..fits the same narraitves we have seen in past ..something found hidden in an old box in a basement or cellar in a hidden compartment..


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Yes, both SERPO and the CHAD game are "phony," but to leave it at that is to misunderstand the game that is being played. As the Alchemist said to his Apprentice: "the game may be fixed, but it's the only game in town."

"Measuring media by media is a the only sacred mission left to us"

The above are said to be quotations from a lost work of one Augustus Codex, once described by Fulcanelli the
/ Alchemist as "the Imposture Magus of Grenoble." Codex, a metaphysician sworn to poverty, died in a Paris estaminet in 2007 whilst taking notes on Borges' story Tlön, Uqbar, Obis Tertius. It is said by many a heresiarch that he was the only man to solve the riddle behind the physicist Enrico Fermi's celebrated question "where are they?" by answering "the alien is under construction..."

Seconds before he died, he had just marked a passage from the very end of Borges' story:

"Princess Faucigny Lucinge had received her silverware from Poitiers. From the vast depth of a box embellished with foreign stamps, delicate immobile objects emerged: silver from Utrecht and Paris covered with hard heraldic fauna, and a samovar. Among them -with the perceptible and tenuous tremor of a sleeping bird- a compass vibrated mysteriously. The Princess did not recognise it. Its blue needle longed for magnetic north; its metal case was concave in shape; the letters around its edge corresponded to one of the alphabets of Tlon. Such was the first intrusion of this fantastic world into the world of reality."


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« Reply #5 on: Feb 6th, 2015, 1:02pm »

on Feb 6th, 2015, 09:33am, drwu23 wrote:
Interestingly the article says they don't look like the normal 'aliens' being touted in the past...

Now that can be interesting in seeing how the differences are explained away and which form of alien should be believed. Does that mean a position has to be taken that either all the past aliens presented as Roswellians are fake, this new one is fake, both are faked, both can be real because of faulty human memory or some other theory relying on a conspiracy? You can't make this stuff up. Get the popcorn out. grin
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 12:20am »

come on give them a chance..specially if it involves skeptics..actually forteanists imo..much like yourselves
specially good writers at RRRgroup

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http://ufor.blogspot.com/2008/11/roswell-liars-by-anthony-bragalia.html

This should be interesting

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woa and talk about memory!
I traced a visit to this blog....amazing hypnosis session...1865
http://fringeology.blogspot.com/2013/04/an-odd-hypnotic-experiment.html
http://outre.homestead.com/
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 09:00am »

OK, I'll keep an open mind especially if the results are reported by a credible source and spokesperson.


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« Reply #8 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 09:22am »

on Feb 6th, 2015, 12:38pm, SysConfig wrote:
Ed and Doc both of you are very spot on..its deja vu again
The new alien as the carrot on a string is the nice draw..fits the same narraitves we have seen in past ..something found hidden in an old box in a basement or cellar in a hidden compartment..


The Alien is under Construction
http://www.realityuncovered.net/ufology/articles/memewars.php
Yes, both SERPO and the CHAD game are "phony," but to leave it at that is to misunderstand the game that is being played. As the Alchemist said to his Apprentice: "the game may be fixed, but it's the only game in town."

"Measuring media by media is a the only sacred mission left to us"

The above are said to be quotations from a lost work of one Augustus Codex, once described by Fulcanelli the
/ Alchemist as "the Imposture Magus of Grenoble." Codex, a metaphysician sworn to poverty, died in a Paris estaminet in 2007 whilst taking notes on Borges' story Tlön, Uqbar, Obis Tertius. It is said by many a heresiarch that he was the only man to solve the riddle behind the physicist Enrico Fermi's celebrated question "where are they?" by answering "the alien is under construction..."

Seconds before he died, he had just marked a passage from the very end of Borges' story:

"Princess Faucigny Lucinge had received her silverware from Poitiers. From the vast depth of a box embellished with foreign stamps, delicate immobile objects emerged: silver from Utrecht and Paris covered with hard heraldic fauna, and a samovar. Among them -with the perceptible and tenuous tremor of a sleeping bird- a compass vibrated mysteriously. The Princess did not recognise it. Its blue needle longed for magnetic north; its metal case was concave in shape; the letters around its edge corresponded to one of the alphabets of Tlon. Such was the first intrusion of this fantastic world into the world of reality."


The Meme Wars Continue


I'll have to read that article by Colin Bennett later......love all those esoteric references to Fulcanelli, alchemy, Borges' reality bending tales, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 1:01pm »

Don't worry guys I got your backs! grin tongue

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« Reply #10 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 1:18pm »

on Feb 6th, 2015, 06:05am, GhostofEd wrote:
Well, as we have been reminded many times, no photo or video will ever prove it or other things.

Some expert may verify the film material is authentic but they can never prove the authenticity of the subject matter itself.

My prediction: The film material will not be identified from 1947 but rather a range of years. There will be controversy surrounding the film expert and there will be no precise 1947 confirmation from other film historians. The date of exposure and processing will have the same issues. The analysis will not be able to eliminate the possibility that the captured images were staged prior to exposure. The images themselves will be vague and inconclusive but will be regarded as proof of Roswell aliens more so based on film material being real vs. verification of the subject matter. In a nutshell, the hype will far exceed the outcome. We'll see.


GhostofEd,

Although it pains me to say it, I have to agree with you here. (One point here though: as a long-time photographer, ALL films have a limited shelf life. I keep slide film in the refrigerator. It is generally no-good after a year or two. So, the time between manufacture and exposure can only be counted in years, not decades.)

With the way so many in the UFO community screamed bloody murder when the rumors of the slides were leaked out and the protagonists failed to present them post-haste, I knew that the whole thing would be little more than a circus of fawning praise, bitter vitriol, name-calling and recriminations.

No matter what, it will be a train-wreck. And those who think Roswell is a steaming load of bovine excrement will continue to think the same thing and those who think there is there there, will also continue to believe the same thing. As many of you know, I am inclined to believe that something exceptional did happen at Roswell. The stories told by claimed witnesses are too numerous and have a high degree of corroboration.

They can't ALL be liars! To what end? To give the smug disbelievers a reason to denigrate them?

I have kept an open mind about this particular story so far. I want to see the pics before I pass judgment. But if I give my "gut response" to this story, my feeling is that the slides may well be genuine. If it really happened, you have to know that something like this is out there somewhere. Maybe it is true.

I make my living as a sculptor. My primary subject is people. Because of this I have a good working knowledge of surface anatomy. I remember when the Santilli "alien autopsy" tapes came out. I took one look at a still of the stupid dummy and recognized it as a hoax immediately. The anatomy was "off". It was an obvious sculpt and not a particularly competent one either.

It only took seconds for me to decide that. I expect these slides will be the same story. They will either convince, or they won't.

And that applies to pretty much everybody else too. Those who want to believe will say they are the holy grail. Those who want to disbelieve will scream FAKE! and call the other folks idiots.

And, nothing will be resolved. It will be just another bit of UFOLogical folklore that never, ever reaches a conclusion that satisfies many, much less, everybody. And we will all wake up on the morning of May 6th none the wiser. Nothing much around this subject will have changed.

That sucks. But I have been around long enough to know how this will go.

But whether I come down on the positive or negative side (or admit that I just do not know), I do not think our ultimate questions will be any closer to being answered. That is because this whole UFO question is not about what is true or real or even about what a UFO or "aliens" are: .... wait for it ....

It is all about what you, as an individual, are willing (or unwilling) to believe.

And all the slides in the world will have a hard time changing that..... rolleyes tongue

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BTW, Colin Bennett ROCKS! He knows that it is all a game and that belief or disbelief generally have little to do with what is actually "true" or "real". And, that, my friends, is the rub.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 7th, 2015, 10:34pm »

Bare in mind that Jamie Maussan is To Mexican Ufology what Don King is To boxing, only the latter gives some great fights.



The image below was taken at 6 10 does not look unlike what we have seen before..like the movie Hangar 18 a bit.
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This is not the Thrilla from Manila unless the recreation was deliberately altered to hid before the May 5 event coinciding with Cinco de Mayo....now I get it..highly festive .lol

The focus should be on Dew and his girlfriend cleaning a house for a deceased couples..estate..which would bring into question whether they (dew) are legally entitled to it and not some kind of heir property



Adam Dew, who reveals the origin of the photos. According to Dew, his friend’s sister discovered the photos in 1989 while cleaning out the house of a deceased and childless American couple, Bernerd and Hilda Blair Ray, in Arizona.

Bernerd Ray was an oil exploration geologist who had worked in the fields of the Roswell area of New Mexico in the 1940s and was president of the Texas chapter of the American Institute of Petroleum Geologists in 1947.

His wife, Hilda, was a “highly respected” lawyer with “high-end clientele and possible intelligence connections.”


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Thanks Sys! But it will only cheer me up if it is the original Batmobile from the '60s TV show. Those other Batmobiles were lame and only became lamer over the years. That last one looked like a tractor that had a collision with a junk-pile. Even Bruce Wayne hung his head in shame..... tongue

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HMMMM ~ FOR SUCH A JOB WELL DONE (ET.AL.) ~ THAT WEST COAST NUDGE OF COURSE ~ DESERVES SOME EYE CANDY APPRECIATION grin

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