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« Thread started on: Feb 15th, 2015, 1:46pm »

Did the russians threaten the Obama administration with disclosure?

http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/medvedev-usa-time-talk-aliens-will/

Given the recent hubbub vis-a-vis Russia's presumed incursions into Ukraine, it is not too much of a stretch for Russia to be making threats of revelations that could potentially embarrass Washington.

If we look at recent events from the view of Russia, America has been wallowing in the deep muck of our own double-standards in telling Russia how to behave in their direct "areas of influence".

The truth is, Ukraine would be in dire straits if Russia severed their long standing mutual historical ties. Not to mention that Russia would lose valuable access to strategic Black Sea ports for the distribution of their crucial oil exports. Furthermore, a NATO backed Ukraine would put adversarial forces right on the Russian border. This has something of the quality of the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, with the Russians now sweating bullets over a potentially dangerous loss of national security.

American "diplomacy" in this case is a travesty of double standards where we get away with all manner of nefarious imperial plots, "nation building" and self-serving economic sado-masochistic control around the globe while - when Russia does something a bit shady, we impose economic sanctions and make any number of veiled threats. Given the present situation, these kind of embarrassing revelations are just the kind of thing that could make Washington's power elite nervous.

The real question is: is this a REAL threat? Or, is it just a bit of fuss about idle joking commentary on the part of Medvedev.

If it is the former, then this is about as close as we have ever gotten to real disclosure. It does make one wonder.....
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 15th, 2015, 3:28pm »

on Feb 15th, 2015, 1:46pm, bonehead wrote:
Did the russians threaten the Obama administration with disclosure?

http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/medvedev-usa-time-talk-aliens-will/

Given the recent hubbub vis-a-vis Russia's presumed incursions into Ukraine, it is not too much of a stretch for Russia to be making threats of revelations that could potentially embarrass Washington.

If we look at recent events from the view of Russia, America has been wallowing in the deep muck of our own double-standards in telling Russia how to behave in their direct "areas of influence".

The truth is, Ukraine would be in dire straits if Russia severed their long standing mutual historical ties. Not to mention that Russia would lose valuable access to strategic Black Sea ports for the distribution of their crucial oil exports. Furthermore, a NATO backed Ukraine would put adversarial forces right on the Russian border. This has something of the quality of the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, with the Russians now sweating bullets over a potentially dangerous loss of national security.

American "diplomacy" in this case is a travesty of double standards where we get away with all manner of nefarious imperial plots, "nation building" and self-serving economic sado-masochistic control around the globe while - when Russia does something a bit shady, we impose economic sanctions and make any number of veiled threats. Given the present situation, these kind of embarrassing revelations are just the kind of thing that could make Washington's power elite nervous.

The real question is: is this a REAL threat? Or, is it just a bit of fuss about idle joking commentary on the part of Medvedev.

If it is the former, then this is about as close as we have ever gotten to real disclosure. It does make one wonder.....


Hi Bonehead, interesting article! For the sake of disclosure I hope Obama keeps meddling but I doubt Russia would ever disclose anything.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 15th, 2015, 4:58pm »

Yes it was..there was fun poked at Sorcha..Faal which imo is also a Russian source for leaks..and trial balloons..
I think this was a threat not so much at disclosure but to get serious about the Ukraine or they will get fanciful in turn. The US has not been serious about peace despite nearly 6k dead..downplaying even the recent Peace Accord and threatening to send lethal aid despite the obvious lack of will to kill or be drafted to kill on the Ukranians part, and being joined at the hip with right sector.Aliens and MIB is just an allusion to the CIA and Mercs, dozens who were killed at the onset, prompting an emergency visit by Our own CIA head. These strangers would qualify as aliens..It could also be an allusion to our star wars program used also to bankrupt the USSR and used also to weaponize space in violation of international treaty.
Via snowdens information..and no one really has an exact number of files stolen with blackest of black programs spanning decades..I suspect a lot..may well turn out to be why the Russians have been patient and checkmated every strategic move globally on our part. We have initiated moves on the assumption..he does not know everything..I would say he does..Whatever prompted Snowden must have been frightening and not a result of watching Ron Paul videos.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 15th, 2015, 7:21pm »

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/nsa-braced-for-new-leaks/

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BY: Bill Gertz
February 13, 2015 6:19 pm

The National Security Agency, still reeling from massive leaks caused by Edward Snowden, is preparing to be hit with another major loss of secrets, according to U.S. intelligence officials.

The leaks are expected to be published in the near future by a news outlet that was not further identified by the officials familiar with details of the compromise. The NSA is aware of the news outlet’s forthcoming disclosures and is taking steps to try and minimize any damage they will cause.

According to the officials, the latest NSA disclosure of secrets is not the result of an insider stealing documents, as occurred in the case of fugitive NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

Instead, the leaks will reveal certain NSA technical cyber intelligence gathering capabilities. The officials did not provide details about the leaks.

Certain techniques used by the NSA in cyber operations became known to technicians at a non-U.S. cyber security firm operating from Mexico. The company then contacted a news outlet with the details it uncovered.

A report detailing the breach could be made public as early as this weekend.

NSA spokeswoman Vanee Vines declined to comment.

edit Mexico Again? well at least we wont have to wait until May like the Kodachrome slides.

The agency is still reeling from the massive theft of internal documents obtained by Snowden, who as a network administrator was able to penetrate networks and copy reports, memos, and briefing slides outlining some of the NSA’s most significant secret operations.

Snowden, currently under temporary asylum in Russia, has sought to expose what he and other critics assert has been illegal electronic surveillance by NSA.

However, most of the disclosures of the Snowden documents are not related to domestic U.S. surveillance, but foreign intelligence activities by the Fort Meade, Maryland-based spy agency.

Snowden, in a video interview broadcast by the New York Times on Thursday, said he intentionally left “a trail of bread crumbs” for the U.S. government after he fled to Hong Kong from work in Hawaii for NSA in a bid to explain that his leaks were not a “hostile action.”

“This is public interest work, which obviously [the government] still contested to some degree,” he said, adding that he was the “initial mechanism for disclosure” that triggered a public debate on NSA surveillance.

“The surveillance disclosures of 2013 are not an attack on the intelligence community,” Snowden said.

“If anything, they are a mandate … for reform, a mandate to fix these problems.”

Snowden said he was frustrated that President Obama has not halted NSA surveillance.

The Snowden leaks, described by officials as among the most damaging disclosures in the agency’s history, are continuing.

Germany’s Der Spiegel on Jan. 17 disclosed an NSA project code-named GENIE that conducts electronic spying and cyber attacks on foreign networks. One document related to the project warned that the “next major conflict will start in cyberspace” and NSA must prepare to be digitally armed.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 16th, 2015, 08:02am »

Disclose TV, Russians, ......I have trouble taking this seriously but maybe that's just me.

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 16th, 2015, 09:28am »

on Feb 16th, 2015, 08:02am, drwu23 wrote:
Disclose TV, Russians, ......I have trouble taking this seriously but maybe that's just me.

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Well I find it humorous and quite honestly refreshing that Russia is making threats of disclosure and not nuking us. I just hope Putin PUTS UP OR SHUTS UP!
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 16th, 2015, 11:54am »

on Feb 15th, 2015, 4:58pm, SysConfig wrote:
Yes it was..there was fun poked at Sorcha..Faal which imo is also a Russian source for leaks..and trial balloons..
I think this was a threat not so much at disclosure but to get serious about the Ukraine or they will get fanciful in turn.


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Yeah, that is how i read it too. I had not seen the disclose TV website before. But I followed a few links to get an idea what they were about. They had an article in there claiming 9/11 was a cover-up of a "nuclear" incident. So much for credibility.

The real question here is, did Medvedev actually say those things?

If so, it does not matter what kind of kooks run the website. The fact that Mother Russia is keeping that kind of trump card in their pocket IS significant. Certainly, such a revelation would embarrass the folks on capital hill (spelling error is deliberate - and justified), and out them as the serial liars they are.

You just can't get this kind of thing from the "usual", lame-stream media propaganda sources.....
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 16th, 2015, 7:14pm »

Hi Bones..searching usually lead me in circles. I found one good chronologyy of statment and updates as story , around for a while, developed.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/component/content/article/66-news/479-has-russian-prime-minister-confirmed-aliens

It boiled down to this..

Update #8

Some interesting material this morning from Robert who runs Exopolitics Germany

Some interesting material this morning from Robert who runs Exopolitics Germany

I had Medvedev’s statement independently translated and verified by two Russian-speaking translators. The subtitles are more or less accurate. When the first video popped up, I was astonished because his answer to the relatively short reporter question appears quite elaborate and serious. I was wondering how Medvedev could come up with such a complex answer in such a short time. However, shortly afterwards, I was informed about another video which is longer at the beginning. There you can see the complete reporter question, which is:

“Most people are of the opinion that the newly-elected president receives a lot of files”… (here you can see Medvedev starting to laugh) “…with ‘Top Secret’ written on it…” (Medvedev serious again) “…and that all the secrets of the world are contained therein, and that you know absolutely everything. Now, for example, have extraterrestrials visited the Earth?”

Having seen that video (which was previously posted here but now has disappeared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDZmaww9vos), I am now convinced that Medvedev was joking, because you see him laugh when the reporter asks her question and also, because that complete question explains how Medvedev could prepare such an elaborate answer. It seems the first YouTube user video edited out the first part of the reporter question on purpose, maybe to make us think that Medvedev was serious.

You can find my article on it here (please use Google Translate): http://www.exopolitik.org/wissen/kolumne/769-russlands-premierminister-ets-leben-unter-uns

Update # 9

Thanks to Oleg at the Exopolitics Institute we have a video that clearly show Dmitry Medvedev to have a straight face and sense of humor. Everyone interested in the Medvedev statement must watch this.


Russian Embassies have been contacted for comments on the Medvedev statemnt. One reply is back and we are waiting for the second one.

Update #10

Medvedev on Outer Space

“Sometime we will be able to conquer other planets, other stellar systems. I don’t know how soon will we be able to achieve that, but I think that mankind will always try to follow these two approaches simultaneously – on the one hand, the dream of exploring outer space, and, on the other hand, a truly pragmatic approach to outer space, which may bring both scientific and practical benefits."

http://rt.com/news/medvedev-gagarin-interview-space/

Update #11

Some members of the European Union (EU) Parliament apparently were influenced by Medvedev's remarks, and want the issue raised in the EU parliament. The key member has been contacted and an update will be provided as soon as I have details of what they would like to do.

Update #12

The female reporter who asked the alien question of Dmitry Medvedev was Marianna Maksimovskaya one of the Marianna Maksimovskayatop people at the REN-TV network which is the largest private broadcaster in Russia

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marianna_Maksimovskaya.jpg

As of October 2011, Maksimovskaya was still in charge of news broadcasts on REN TV. Due to her activities, the channel remains arguably Russia's the only major TV outlet with liberal views, discussing the problem of state censorship and showing interviews with leaders of the political fringe.

The question that has not been answered yet, is did REN request that this question be asked, and was there a follow-up by the reporter to determine if Medvedev was telling the truth or just joking.

Update #13

UFO researcher Dr. Bruce Maccabee reports, "I was interviewed back in November by a person working for REN TV and doing a documentary on UFOs."

Update #14

The Russian documentary "Men in Black" that Dmitry Medvedev may have been referring to when asked the alien question was made by the same TV network (REN-TV) that employed Marianna Maksimovskaya who asked the "alien" question earlier this month.
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The fact that Dr. Bruce Maccabee was just interviewed for what appears to be another UFO documentary being created by REN-TV indicates that the alien question put to Medvedev may be dealt with in the new documentary.
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Marianna certainly knows how to look deep into a camera...Those caret tops scare me though..Their last great spy was a caret top too..
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Thanks for doing the homework! Too bad it is too good to be true. Context is everything.....


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« Reply #9 on: Oct 9th, 2015, 11:56am »

Hi, I am a real time traveler. I am using a Qarao 5 device to connect here. Other forums would not work, only this one. I have with me unique sequence mathematics to show and drawings privately here. It is important. The nations will soon push a global agenda for human tagging. Does anyone here have understanding of assembly language?
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The email used is not responding either, of it says other logins and not applicable. Then is I must reconnect to check replies here. The mathematics to show is for a engine and the sequencing of that similiar to Star of David geometry. I am using a Q5 with two external channels.
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...Does anyone here have understanding of assembly language?..

Doesn't Windows 10 have an emulator for that ?

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The assembly language is different but same at registers and how marks are placed, however 1 plus 1 equals 1 divide 1 is correct because in the future there will be realization to understand 1 divide by 1 there had to be understand of two 1's. It is not so important though with what emulator to use... The coding of the sleeping leaves sequences are not subject to just one scenario of probability. It based on (2345plus1568plus3456)divide3.141592653, where always 2345.####, and 2x3x4x5
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...whereof 2x3x4x5
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM

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"I have with me unique sequence mathematics to show and drawings privately here."

SHOW US WHAT YOU HAVE ~ WE ARE A CURIOUS LOT WITH AN EYE FOR ENLIGHTENMENT!

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Assembly Language Programming

With the important capability of decision making in our repertoire we move

on to the discussion of an algorithm, which will help us uncover an

important set of instructions in our processor used for bit manipulations.

Multiplication is a common process that we use, and we were trained to do

in early schooling. Remember multiplying by a digit and then putting a cross

and then multiplying with the next digit and putting two crosses and so on

and summing the intermediate results in the end. Very familiar process but

we never saw the process as an algorithm, and we need to see it as an

algorithm to convey it to the processor.

MORE HERE:

http://www.zeepedia.com/read.php%3Fmanipulations_multiplication_algorithm_shifting_and_rotations_bitwise_logical_operations_assembly_language_programming%26b%3D5%26c%3D4

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