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xx Re: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
« Reply #45 on: Jun 8th, 2007, 08:52am »

I decided to put the link ofr this story here instead of starting a new thread....since this is all about the search for extraterrestrial life.
I just looked over this article and thought, oh how nice that scientists are now saying we will find "primitive" (microbial) life in the next ten years. And, how great that now we have the tools for finding many more planets that just may contain some form of life.
We still think we are the smartest and the best in the universe. Funny.
I keep thinking if our planet has somewhat intelligent life on it (although the intelligent part could be highly debatable) perhaps there is another planet perhaps the same age or older out there with a civilization equally or more advanced. If we are watching them, we can probably be more than certain they have been watching us.
In these articles the scientists speak as if we are the big brothers looking for lower life forms.....what a kicker if and when the really older groups decide to set the recor straight!
Anyway, here is an aritcle to peruse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/space/article/0,,2096473,00.html
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xx Re: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
« Reply #46 on: Jun 8th, 2007, 09:36am »

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In these articles the scientists speak as if we are the big brothers looking for lower life forms.....what a kicker if and when the really older groups decide to set the record straight!


I really like the way you worded that...!!
So true too......and I reckon we are not long off them setting the record straight......probably in our lifetimes. Many years ago we heard of the occasional UFO sighting.....now they are daily events. All that activity means something.

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xx Re: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
« Reply #47 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 11:56am »

I may be trying to over simplify things but I have a question that I'd like someone to answer for me.
The SETI project is an admirable one and used correctly it does have a purpose.
I have seen images from the Hubble Space Telescope showing pictures of Galaxies over 1,000 Light Years from Earth and the details are amazing.
Why doesn't , or haven't, S.E.T.I. teamed up with the people in control/command of the Hubble Space Telescope in their searches?
There are many stories/theories that a Race of Aliens, whom are known as the "Greys", come from a Planet(s) within the Zeta Reticula Constellation.
Why hasn't the Hubble Space Telescope been turned to Zeta Reticula and zoomed in? Surely with the degree of magnification that has been shown to be possible it would show one way or another what, if anything, was there.
It may be me being cynical but could it be that the Americans, for instance, already know what and who lives among the Zeta Reticula Constellation, or the Pleiades for that matter?
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« Reply #48 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 12:44pm »

Excellent questions Avisitor, and I would really like the answers to them as well. It certainly does make on wonder.....
And with the technology available, if people in those positions actually teamed up, then there would be enough answers to squelch any "conspiracies" or false reporting. Perhaps those in a position to give the answers really don't mind all the conspiracy theories and rumors, because it takes the heat off of other things that might be known.
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« Reply #49 on: Jan 3rd, 2008, 11:37pm »

AVISITOR,
I HAVE CONTEMPLATED THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION MYSELF.
WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN DID THE GOVERNMENT ALONG WITH NASA AND JPL...THOSE IN THE LOOP DETERMINE THAT RADIO SIGNAL SEARCHES WERE NOT REASONABLE AND ECONOMICALLY JUSTIFIED.
I INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THESE GUYS (GOVERNMENT) KNOW/KNEW SOMETHING THAT WE(THE PUBLIC) DON'T DUHHH.
WHAT WOULD GOOD WOULD THESE SATELLITES BE FOR THOSE WHOM JUMP FROM VARIOUS DIMENSIONS...MOREOVER...SUPPOSE THEY FASCILITATE A JUMP OR BEND THE SPACE TIME CONTINUUM FROM 100'S OF LIGHT YEARS AWAY....WOULD ANY ARRAY OF SATELLITES BE ABLE TO DETECT A SIGNAL.
WELL MAYBE ONE DAY THEY'LL BE SOME TYPE OF INTERGALACTIC TRUCKER WHOM WILL KEEP THAT MIKE KEYED UP FOR EGOS SAKE AND WE'LL FINALLY HAVE FIRST CONTACT...BREAKER,BREAKER grin
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« Reply #50 on: Jan 4th, 2008, 08:48am »

That's a big 10:4 Zetar. grin
One day, they will figure this out, but when will that one day be? I am an impatient type sometimes.
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« Reply #51 on: Jan 4th, 2008, 10:00pm »

MAN YOU ARE A QUICK 10:4 STUDY cool
YOU ALWAYS SURPRISE ME CREOLELADY wink
IS THAT IMPATIENCE A GAL THING? HANDS ON THE HIP TAPPING THAT FOOT...TAP,TAP,TAP...I CAN SEE YOU LIKE MY COUSIN VINNIE grin
WELL I'M INSENSED THAT SO LITTLE HAS OCCURED AS WELL...AT LEAST PUBLICALLY.
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
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« Reply #52 on: Feb 24th, 2008, 11:16am »

Anyone ever thought that maybe some of these "greys" might be comings from the magellic clouds? (small and large) both which are glalaxies, however their smaller than normal galaxies. And apperently their on a collision course with the milkyway. Said it will add somthing like 15% (combines large and small magellic clouds) They are the 2 closest galaxies, maybe were hearing contact from them because maybe one of our races is in severe danger?

here is a page that has a lil map showing close galaxies. its not the best in the world but you could see how the lmc and smc could colliade with us very easily.

http://www.creationdiscovery.org/cdp/articles/Lsu7.html

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« Reply #53 on: Feb 26th, 2008, 11:53pm »

HEY ORENSHII,
EXCELLENT OBSERVATION...
MORE THAN LIKELY THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS FOR THE MULTIPLE OFF-WORLD SPECIES WHOM COME TO THIS PLANET...
AGAIN ONE MUST QUESTION WHETHER AT A TIME WHEN MAN HAD NOT DEVELOPED...WAS ANOTHER SPECIES HERE...
EARTH WAS COVERED BY WATER SOME TIME AGO ...AT LEAST 90% WAS WATER...WHOSE TO SAY THAT AN AQUATIC SPECIES DID NOT PRECEDE US.
CLEARLY MANY SPECIES HAVE COME AND GONE DUE TO AN ABILITY OR LACK THEREOF TO ACCLIMATE TO GEOLOGICAL/ATMOSPHERIC/CATASTROPHIC EVENTS WHICH HAVE OCCURED.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COHABITATE THIS PLANET WITH SPECIES WHICH WE DEEM AS ALIEN WHOM MAY HAVE A FEW EONS OF TECHNOLOGICAL GROWTH ON US...WELL THE QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THEIR CITIES?
MUCH LIKE SPACE...THE DEEPEST TRENCHES IN THE OCEANS REMAIN UNEXPLORED DUE TO THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR PRESENT DAY TECHNOLOGY...MAYBE ONE DAY wink
I ADMIRE YOUR CURIOSITY wink!!!
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« Reply #54 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 12:44am »

That is a good point. The two clouds and our galaxy will one day merge. This will have of course dramatic repercussions for all lifeforms within our galaxy and the two massive cloud/star clusters. A great sci-fi book could be created based off that idea alone. Imagine all the cool adventures from an inter-galactic effort to expand and preserve their lives from certain doom. We have time but apparently that timescale just got changed!

On the other hand, for us humans here on the earth; by the time this grand merger occurs our Sun will be a burnt out husk...

Before the Sun becomes a burnt out husk, the Sun will have a great increase of released energy as the star dies. The result is that the Sun will expand. the heat/radiation will expand to just beyond or around Mars... which means the earth is toast, a roasting fireball swirling around its dying star.

Do not forget that our solar system has experienced a relatively 'peaceful' period because it has been traveling in a less active place in our galaxy... we are heading into a more active part of the galaxy now and are in for an unknown bumpy ride. This raises a variety of concerns.

So, for us humans, we have more immediate troubles in our future.

It is funny, but I was thinking of this prospect and considered beginning a thread based on the theme of what humans can do to survive as a species. We are talking long-term goals here. We need off this planet and to colonize space. We HAVE to do this! Yes, we could waste another hundred years of ignoring our imminent fate as a planet and still probably expand further, but we need to start seriously considering to at least formulate a plan. An international plan. A public plan. Remember this would be very long-term plan, over the span of hundreds of years... we are talking about not only getting off of the planet, but getting out of the solar system! It is a must if future humans are to exist. Eventually we will need to get out of this galaxy altogether, before this grand collision/merger... or at least by that time have the knowledge to calculate what exactly the merger will do, perhaps there will be unaltered places to go within the galaxy to sustain life. I guess we will leave those problems up to the ones who are there, but it is cool to ponder. smiley
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« Reply #55 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 5:01pm »

I really agree that we need to have the capability to get off this planet in the future. One day it will be a matter of the species survival. Of course, we can be pretty sure all will not be able to get off in time, so there needs to be a movement towards gradual colonization somewhere out there......what will that bring? Who knows what we will encounter on other worlds.....exciting in some ways, concerning in others. we have been a race who believed we were so special in the universe, now we may have to go knocking on a neighbor's door for help. Hopefully they will let our descendants in when that time comes.
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« Reply #56 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 9:49pm »

Very good point CL. Indeed there will be many missions that will end quite grim for the expansionist settlers, but others will succeed. We need only one relatively free planet from which to sustain the species but it would be nice to think more would be successful as well.

The greatest scenario would be to find a planet similar to the earth and the life thriving on it would be more primitive when it comes to intelligent consciousness. I am thinking in terms of the highest chance for survival. Hopefully by this time, humanity will have grown up a bit and will not overly exploit the newly found planet.

If we found it today, we'd violate it quickly, but let us consider 100 years from now or longer... with the way technology is going, if we last over 100 more years as a species, with these vast advancements, then it will be because we have taken some steps on a spiritual level and with those steps will come also a change in the way we behave. Even if we have a global tyrannical era on this world, like all tyrannical systems, it will eventually crumble. Maybe after this time people will reject the old ways of doing things and truly search for their spiritual roots.

So we find a sustainable planet, colonize it, and once the population has grown well and sustained city infrastructures and what not, they launch their own missions of colonization... If enough newly colonized planets conduct these missions, the chances increase we will stumble upon a world with grand natural elements which would be very foreign to us here on Earth... perhaps with the change of different elements climates and conditions that would certainly be found on the colonized planets, combined with the technology that particular settlement has brought with them, they can advance enough to discover the secrets of true travel, from there branch to other galaxies... hopefully these various branched, independent colonies on the newly found planets would still communicate with one another, rather than creating any rivalries based on pride or greed, again hopefully we will have done away with such thinking by this time, and will communicate the many elements and advancements they learn.

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« Reply #57 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 10:11pm »

Yes Nephilim, we are the beginning.....perhaps in our children or Grandchildren's lifetimes, the pathfinders will be sent out to carry on the next steps.
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« Reply #58 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 7:09pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 10:11pm, creolelady wrote:
Yes Nephilim, we are the beginning.....perhaps in our children or Grandchildren's lifetimes, the pathfinders will be sent out to carry on the next steps.



Now that is a dream amoungst dreams. I could only dream myself of a day where humans will not just be known on earth but in the universe.

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« Reply #59 on: Apr 21st, 2008, 09:57am »

on Feb 29th, 2008, 7:09pm, Orenshii wrote:
Now that is a dream amoungst dreams. I could only dream myself of a day where humans will not just be known on earth but in the universe.

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hey Orenshii, we probably are known in the universe ( ok thats maybe a bit too much, maybe in a few galaxies?) Lets just hope more and more UFO's decide to visit us, one day our species will be made public ^^

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