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« Reply #45 on: Jan 21st, 2012, 9:45pm »

Sorry Moksha I didn't read your response clearly! I thought based on something icepick said in agreeing with you that you didn't believe in the codes. I mentioned numerology because I knew you believe in it. I should have read your response more clearly.

The point Iím trying to make is that God may use the codes as a form of subliminal messages of past and future events. We(Mankind) have used subliminal message for decades. You canít hear or see them to the naked eye but they exist. I had an audio CD for weight loss. It sounds like waves but the underneath message was stop eating Big Macís and drinking Pepsi. Just kidding to a degree but a message is there. Is it not possible that God planted something deeper than just his so called recorded word? That on the surface you get what you see, but if you take the time to dig deeper you find a greater message or prophecy.

Personally if I was a true believer I wouldnít discount the possibility. Food for thought! Dan
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« Reply #46 on: Jan 22nd, 2012, 12:02am »

And your opinion is your right Dan. I just have difficulty with hiding predictions for minor events, when the text is able to carry such sweeping messages between the lines is all. Nobody can know the will of God. We don't even have a grasp on what type of entity God might be. Many people dispute that God exists.

It definitely is something one must take in faith if they choose to do so. This is one issue too complex for even science to take a stab at. Nothing definitive, one way or the other.

One question which may, or may not be relative would be what might an extraterrestrial call science. Ever think about that?
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« Reply #47 on: Jan 22nd, 2012, 09:31am »

Hi Tim, I think you mentioned on this, or in another thread, something about the books that were chosen and not chosen for the Bible. Books I may add that were chosen by a council of men. Because men chose the books and did so IMO to control their flock/believers I don't believe the Bible verbatim. I do think that all the books were inspired by God but not the words of God.

After the above comments it may sound strange to hear me defend the codes. I do so because they exist. It may not be divine intervention it may be chance. Aliens or Angels may have placed them in after the fact. Personally I can't say. I do know when I use the software I get a strange feeling while doing so, like using an Ouija board. I haven't found anything that tells future events only past events. I have searched the whole 2012 Mayan end of days and found nothing. The problem I think comes with the conversion of words.

From my limited experience with the codes and the software I do find it interesting to say the least. Sort of like an advanced magic 8 ball.
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« Reply #48 on: Jan 22nd, 2012, 10:27am »

Yeah, I could see how it might cause such feelings. And I agree about human hand messing up the scriptures. This probably applies to every religion.

You mentioned what I'm waiting for before passing final judgment Dan. A prediction of major sorts before the fact. Same goes for the Nostradamus crowd. Especially them actually. They love to dredge up ambiguous lines after something happens and say aha! Always lines more vague than a daily horoscope too.

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« Reply #49 on: Jan 22nd, 2012, 11:20am »

on Jan 22nd, 2012, 10:27am, icepick wrote:
You mentioned what I'm waiting for before passing final judgment Dan. A prediction of major sorts before the fact. Same goes for the Nostradamus crowd. Especially them actually. They love to dredge up ambiguous lines after something happens and say aha! Always lines more vague than a daily horoscope too.

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Tim I don't believe in predetermination or predestination for the most part. I think we(mankind) can change...alter future events. So I agree that predictions aren't likely to come true. It may be why the Bible Codes can't predict major events. At least for me and my limited experience with them. Dan



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« Reply #50 on: Jan 22nd, 2012, 3:44pm »

I am only superficially familiar with the 'Bible code' beliefs. Can someone give me a brief explanation of who started this and why it is taken seriously and have any scientists, language experts, symbologists become involved or is it a fringe belief currently?
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on Jan 22nd, 2012, 11:20am, GForce wrote:
Tim I don't believe in predetermination or predestination for the most part. I think we(mankind) can change...alter future events. So I agree that predictions aren't likely to come true. It may be why the Bible Codes can't predict major events. At least for me and my limited experience with them. Dan





If there is no predetermination, then there is no need for prediction. Chance reigns supreme. Of course you could make a case for some predictions following the law of averages, but such would never play here. Besides, even some scientific studies are discovering certain types of extended mental capability. Someday we will know enough to explain some of this.
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« Reply #52 on: Jan 23rd, 2012, 06:55am »

YES<>ICE,
Kinda like random precision, the potential energy from a individual, can easily alter a outcome or mold the future, by simply working a problem all the way out to a possible solution, which could vary, but can not go out side the constants.
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on Jan 22nd, 2012, 5:56pm, icepick wrote:
If there is no predetermination, then there is no need for prediction. Chance reigns supreme. Of course you could make a case for some predictions following the law of averages, but such would never play here. Besides, even some scientific studies are discovering certain types of extended mental capability. Someday we will know enough to explain some of this.


Tim have you ever heard of a psychic being 100% correct? I think its possible to see into the future but as Moksha said energy or even a change of mind or heart can alter the outcome. I do believe we can see into the future but what we see isn't chisled in stone. It simply may be where we headed if changes aren't made. I think we all have free will and the choices we make determine the future we get. My two cents anyway! Dan
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« Reply #54 on: Jan 23rd, 2012, 09:10am »

Dan, we might have the power to alter things some simply by thinking about it. Hard to say what the human mind is capable of, but it's far more powerful than most people care to believe. How many times has the improbable happened after a public uproar or similar? And there seemed to be no apparent reason for it.

100% accurate? Depends on how you look at it. Yes, I have heard of 100% of a psychic's prediction proving correct. On the other hand, I'm sure you've had a dream or two that's panned out haven't you? If so, then you know that the details are always sketchy, correct? Almost like you slept through half the story or something?

Yeah, I'd have to say you could make a good argument either way regarding this one. We don't seem to know how to utilize these gifts correctly. Most people don't even realize they have them. Science is only now scratching the surface of this issue.

Here's a good question for you. Something Lori made me wonder about.

The human brain operates on electrical current.

Electrical engineers use a negative ground most of the time, but they do use positive grounding as well.

Might the same apply to the human brain? If so, what might that mean regarding potential, capability, and reliability?

It's just a thought, but one that deserves to be checked out in my opinion.
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« Reply #55 on: Jan 23rd, 2012, 2:00pm »

Hi Tim, I believe in dreams, psychic predictions, remote viewing and remote imaging. I'm only saying that predictions while viewed to have a specific ending are based on that moment in which they're viewed/seen.

That's not to say that knowing or not knowing the outcome events can or cannot alter the ending. If I dreamed an asteroid hit and destroyed most of the earth and science destroyed the asteroid before it got here. Does that make my dream less prophetic? My point is we can alter, prevent future events and nothing is chisled in stone. So yes I agree with you! Dan
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Is this essentially accurate..?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_code
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Code_(book)
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on Jan 23rd, 2012, 2:54pm, drwu23 wrote:
Is this essentially accurate..?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_code
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Code_(book)


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« Reply #58 on: Jan 23rd, 2012, 7:33pm »

Dan;

Yes, that's the direction I was taking there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the research done by geneticists in the last decade where they've hooked groups of people to EECs, then placed them in separate rooms and had them do specific tasks? And the results imply telepathy? They've stepped back to go WTF? Have you noticed how much less visible that research has become?

The human mind is pretty amazing. And this is only what we know. I'm wondering how much the scientific community has learned but are unwilling to commit to?

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« Reply #59 on: Jan 23rd, 2012, 8:04pm »

YES, I can imagine it might have scared the pants off of them and their shoes, then one of them picks up the shoe holds it to his head, like GET SMART, and says Houston we have a problem, looks like we have many angry bee's looking for their lost honey.
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