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« Reply #15 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 11:28am »

Positron,

No, Drwu is not a troll. If you want trolls just read through some of or historical p0sts.

But you are entitled to your opinion.

..it is hard to discuss the actual conditions on the moon untill we have personally been there. .

We have been there, at least our representatives in the form of the Apollo astronauts have.

Many people have offered interpretations of observations by telescopes and even space probes.

I would even go so far as to say that there are indeed some intriguing pictures from these probes. Some which are difficult to explain in terms of our knowledge.

Anyway, If you feel you can explain some of the things seen in a reasonable scientific context, please do so. I for one will be happy to see your thoughts.

But you must expect questions. That is how the game is played.

No one gets a free ride here.

Maybe you can start by explaining the free standing water in a vacuum.

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« Reply #16 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 12:52pm »

on Feb 13th, 2016, 09:46am, positron wrote:
that is a weak and sad trolling attempt. wonna see a nutter? just look in the closest mirror. wink



You post silly pics like that and you call me, a regular member here btw, a troll? Seriously..?
You are a prime example of what's wrong with boards like these.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 1:42pm »

GETTING TESTY...ALTHOUGH SOMEWHAT AMU'Z'ING... grin...FIGURED I'D TOUCH BASE PRIOR SO SUCH GETTING FURTHER INFLAMED... rolleyes

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« Reply #18 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 2:27pm »

Actually he maybe right:

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LADEE/news/lunar-atmosphere.html#.Vr-PWsdlm3c

Water on the Moon:
http://www.space.com/7328-official-water-moon.html

As far as life on the Moon I cannot find nothing. Since both of those links are not from Alternative or Conspiracy news sites they have to make some one give them serious consideration.

As far as the photos that have been posted I would like to know where they came from. And on a side note this is in the wrong forum anyway. Shouldn't it be in the forum on the Moon?
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 3:23pm »

These images have been discussed here in the past:

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=search&action=display&num=1412534231&start=90

The thread turned into an argument about what the real color of the moon was and the usual accusations of NASA & PTB's covering it up. The original poster got tossed, the mods read everyone else the riot act and that was the end of the discussion. grin
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 3:44pm »

Well that changes a lot......is the OP the same poster?
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 01:51am »

he is sure acting like one. if you think such arrogant behaviour is normal and welcome, think again for he is exactly the problem of this forum and research community.

regarding the moon, "we" were there with apollo, but what is it worth if they didn't show us what they really found there? you ask about free standing water in "vacuum" although the free standing water clearly implies non-vacuum.


on Feb 13th, 2016, 11:28am, INT21 wrote:
Positron,

No, Drwu is not a troll. If you want trolls just read through some of or historical p0sts.

But you are entitled to your opinion.

..it is hard to discuss the actual conditions on the moon untill we have personally been there. .

We have been there, at least our representatives in the form of the Apollo astronauts have.

Many people have offered interpretations of observations by telescopes and even space probes.

I would even go so far as to say that there are indeed some intriguing pictures from these probes. Some which are difficult to explain in terms of our knowledge.

Anyway, If you feel you can explain some of the things seen in a reasonable scientific context, please do so. I for one will be happy to see your thoughts.

But you must expect questions. That is how the game is played.

No one gets a free ride here.

Maybe you can start by explaining the free standing water in a vacuum.

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 01:55am »

yes, i am. to answer your previous question, photos come from the lecture by valdimir trezinski. here is the link to the part where photos are shown: https://youtu.be/tEe-QGohonU?t=6h34m13s


on Feb 13th, 2016, 3:44pm, WingNut wrote:
Well that changes a lot......is the OP the same poster?
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 04:23am »

on Feb 14th, 2016, 01:55am, positron wrote:
yes, i am. to answer your previous question, photos come from the lecture by valdimir trezinski. here is the link to the part where photos are shown: https://youtu.be/tEe-QGohonU?t=6h34m13s




OK Positron, viewed (parts of) that vid, so I kinda get where you're coming from now. Still, displaying the Moon photos imo is not yet enough to explain your position/beliefs. (Again smiley) ... could you elaborate on where the mainstream scientific view of the Moon, and its space missions comes from (if not from honest reporting)? WHY the need to deceive the world public?

And on the other side, what convinced you of your alternative theory? What are the facts that make this a slamdunk for you personally? Just the photos, or more? And do you buy into the Nazi space/moonbase conspiracy as well?

Thanks!


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« Reply #24 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 05:07am »

ok, what convinced me is not one thing in particular, more an accumulation of pointers and evidence over time, that at one point it becomes ludicrous to deny the obvious.

"mainstream scientific view of the moon" comes from space agencies which are, in turn, government agencies. how is it possible to keep the truth hidden from tha masses? simply by compartmentalization and non-disclosure contracts under penalty of prison or even death.

regarding "nazis", it is not nazis as much as it is german secret societies and it goes way back before WW2 to 1850's german-american aroclubs nymza and sonora. except for them there was a number of scientists who dicovered they can control "weight" of any material object by feeding it it's mass agregate frequency. they were mostly responsible for the so called "mystery airships" of the 1897.

moreover, there have always been certain secretive groups or brotherhoods on this planets who always had the flying disc technology. these groups have been meeting on the far side of the moon for centuries overlooking the development of humanity. these groups mostly have underground retreats and are completly detached from the surface dwellers. you can read a great collection of reports on underground dwellers in this free ebook http://www.angelfire.com/empire/fireangel/GTIE/gtie_0-index.html there are many remanant temples/cities and tunnels of the elder race which have been taken over by positive and negative groups.

richard kieningers, author of "the ultimate frontier" stated regarding flying saucers: "... some are interplanetary vehicles, others are of earthly origin. the ones which are from this planet are saucer-shaped of generally trapezoidal cross-section with three hemispherical engine pods on the underside. they were first developed by man on this planet about 20,000 years ago and have been used by members of the lesser brotherhoods continuously since that time."

quote from american contactee howard menger´s book from outer space to you (1959): “"there are also spacecraft, though of inferior design, which are built by people of this planet. these people are in communication and in service with people from other planets. they are people who possess a high spiritual understanding and have reached an awareness of natural law; therefore they have been entrusted with information enabling them to construct such craft."

so, we cannot just look at the isolated parts of the bigger picture, it is a whole another reality, that is, ironically, right under our feet and over our heads, unless, of course, you think it is all a "crazy conspiracy theory", which you have an absolute freedom to do.

i obviously don't and i think these realities are about to merge as it was naturally intented, when the time is ripe.


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« Reply #25 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 06:02am »

Where is this Nazi stuff coming from? The Nazi UFO subject is to say the least highly controversial. There has been no indisputable evidence presented that would support such claims of highly advanced technological weapons.

The so called German saucers were known as the "V-7" and is only a legend at this point. This supposedly advanced craft flew over Prague in February 1947.

Anyone slightly familiar with Hitler knows he had an obsession with the occult. There are some that believed UFOs would not be extraterrestrial in origin but man made craft, its these craft that are presumed to be the result of evil Nazi technology.

Not only that there are no original or historical documents that support the development of saucer shaped craft by the Nazis.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 07:10am »

Positron,

We need to put a few things into perspective here.

Let's start with...

...he is sure acting like one. if you think such arrogant behaviour is normal and welcome, think again for he is exactly the problem of this forum and research community. ..

...The problem with this forum...

I notice that you signed on here less than a month ago.

many of us have been here years.

Don't you think that there is a certain arrogance in saying that some people here are trolls. And that there is a problem with the way we run things ?

If you look through the posts over the last five years you will see that we give space for all kinds of views to be aired. Even the more far out opinions, with the hope that maybe one day something will come from one of them.

Now, you are saying that everything we have been told through modern history is wrong.

Don't you think someone would have noticed by now ?

... you ask about free standing water in "vacuum" although the free standing water clearly implies non-vacuum...

To you, maybe. To me it simply says that this is a picture of something else, not water.

The so called Nazi technology is a well flogged horse (sorry ED) . Perhaps you could explain,

If the organisation that tried to take over the world by military force in 1939 has this technology, why don't they use it to attain their old objective ?

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« Reply #27 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 07:23am »

on Feb 14th, 2016, 07:10am, INT21 wrote:
Positron,

We need to put a few things into perspective here.

Let's start with...

...he is sure acting like one. if you think such arrogant behaviour is normal and welcome, think again for he is exactly the problem of this forum and research community. ..

...The problem with this forum...

I notice that you signed on here less than a month ago.

many of us have been here years.

Don't you think that there is a certain arrogance in saying that some people here are trolls. And that there is a problem with the way we run things ?

If you look through the posts over the last five years you will see that we give space for all kinds of views to be aired. Even the more far out opinions, with the hope that maybe one day something will come from one of them.

Now, you are saying that everything we have been told through modern history is wrong.

Don't you think someone would have noticed by now ?

... you ask about free standing water in "vacuum" although the free standing water clearly implies non-vacuum...

To you, maybe. To me it simply says that this is a picture of something else, not water.

The so called Nazi technology is a well flogged horse (sorry ED) . Perhaps you could explain,

If the organisation that tried to take over the world by military force in 1939 has this technology, why don't they use it to attain their old objective ?

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The so called Nazi technology is a well flogged horse (sorry ED) . Perhaps you could explain,


I wish he would I would be interested in hearing his opinion.

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« Reply #28 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 07:37am »

i don't think so. it doesn't matter how long you have been on the forum, it matters how you behave. for nazis i already commented on that, there is a number of secret space programs. cold war was a scam for the masses, behind the scenes major players were on in cahoots building an underground/interplametary empire with almost unlmited funding they had. talking about "misplaced power".

on Feb 14th, 2016, 07:10am, INT21 wrote:
Positron,

We need to put a few things into perspective here.

Let's start with...

...he is sure acting like one. if you think such arrogant behaviour is normal and welcome, think again for he is exactly the problem of this forum and research community. ..

...The problem with this forum...

I notice that you signed on here less than a month ago.

many of us have been here years.

Don't you think that there is a certain arrogance in saying that some people here are trolls. And that there is a problem with the way we run things ?

If you look through the posts over the last five years you will see that we give space for all kinds of views to be aired. Even the more far out opinions, with the hope that maybe one day something will come from one of them.

Now, you are saying that everything we have been told through modern history is wrong.

Don't you think someone would have noticed by now ?

... you ask about free standing water in "vacuum" although the free standing water clearly implies non-vacuum...

To you, maybe. To me it simply says that this is a picture of something else, not water.

The so called Nazi technology is a well flogged horse (sorry ED) . Perhaps you could explain,

If the organisation that tried to take over the world by military force in 1939 has this technology, why don't they use it to attain their old objective ?

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« Reply #29 on: Feb 14th, 2016, 07:46am »

Positron,

I was reading through your quotes from Adamski.

Seeing that he refers to the 'light side of the Moon.'

You do know, having, as you say, studied the Moon for years, that all sides of the Moon are illuminated by the Sun ?

That 'the dark side' is only as viewed from Earth.

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