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« Reply #450 on: May 10th, 2016, 8:28pm »

from http://lilpictureplace.com/downloads/Suppressed_&_Incredible_Inventions.pdf

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« Reply #451 on: May 10th, 2016, 10:01pm »

from "space gate: veil removed" . "kill them".

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« Reply #452 on: May 11th, 2016, 04:36am »

Pos1tron,

..i suppose you think these subjects are not part of the "reality". .

You are partially correct.

Unlike yourself I do not accept that there are beings from some other world that move amongst us. Or that are in conversation with people here.

There may be other forms of reality, but for such to happen and it not be known to the majority, particularly in this day and age, seems highly unlikely.

You say that the you are not really interested in the so called Nazi connection, be it from Germany or South America, but you keep referring to it. You can't have it both ways.

The argument falls at the hurdle of this alleged technology having been created initially in a war torn country that had managed to reach the level of gyro controlled missiles and a simple rocket powered interception plane. Also, of course, a jet aircraft.

Your theory of bases on the Moon does not stand up to scrutiny as we did not have the technology to even get to the Moon until the sixties.
Any thing else just wasn't possible, and today things are pretty much the same. We can go there, drop off a few instruments, even pick up a rock or two, But we can't remain there.

Any bases such as you refer to would require vast logistical backing. Movement of this stuff would have been visible to anyone with a good telescope.
We have orbiters out there that send back continuous coverage of anything that happens. And like the people who hack computer systems, there are some very clever byte slicers out there who could monitor these data streams and decode them.

The huge majority of science may occasionally be in error on detail, but it is highly unlikely that all the different field will be so far off the mark.

The bottom line is, you can't hide that kind of thing for long.

Does it ever occur to you that you may be the one who has been taken in ? Maybe by people who make money from that kind of thing.

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« Reply #453 on: May 11th, 2016, 04:56am »

MOKSHA,

...Ok HAL, lets play what if
OK
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Fine, let's kick it around a bit.


...If the NAZIs did conquer gravity,
what ever that is, at the primitive level,.
..


You can't conquer gravity. It is the effect of the attraction of one mass to a smaller mass. No mass= no attraction.
You can presumable only attempt to nullify the effect of the local gravitational field. Which, here, is the mass of our planet.


...all energy may have been purposed for that feat,
and none was left for weapons.
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Hitler was fighting a conventional war. Like all would be long range conquerors, he bit off more than he could chew. Eventually ran out of resources. There was nothing left. He had been running this war for five years. Many of Germany's scientists were Jewish. He got rid of them right at the beginning even before the camps. So his technology base was depleted.
Russia was supposed to be an ally of his, that fell apart.

You must remember that Hitler was trying to impose a cultural ideology on the world. Very much as isis et al are trying to do now. His ideal was the idea of 'Germanness' a way of being. There is a proper German word for this but I can't bring it to mind at the moment.
You can't take on the world and expect to win.

...If you find this impossible please explain how you came to this conclusion...

How's the above looking ?

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« Reply #454 on: May 11th, 2016, 05:52am »

HAL,

i am interested in nazi connection, but this is not a thread on nazis and i mention them only in context of secret groups who make and operate so called ufos on this planet. but since you seem not to believe in any of the noted matters, i will sure not try to convince you otherwise. with all that has been presented so far and all the material available, remaining ignorant in this day and age is purely a personal choice.



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« Reply #455 on: May 11th, 2016, 06:04am »

on May 11th, 2016, 04:56am, INT21 wrote:
MOKSHA,

...Ok HAL, lets play what if
OK
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Fine, let's kick it around a bit.


...If the NAZIs did conquer gravity,
what ever that is, at the primitive level,.
..


You can't conquer gravity. It is the effect of the attraction of one mass to a smaller mass. No mass= no attraction.
You can presumable only attempt to nullify the effect of the local gravitational field. Which, here, is the mass of our planet.


...all energy may have been purposed for that feat,
and none was left for weapons.
..

Hitler was fighting a conventional war. Like all would be long range conquerors, he bit off more than he could chew. Eventually ran out of resources. There was nothing left. He had been running this war for five years. Many of Germany's scientists were Jewish. He got rid of them right at the beginning even before the camps. So his technology base was depleted.
Russia was supposed to be an ally of his, that fell apart.

You must remember that Hitler was trying to impose a cultural ideology on the world. Very much as isis et al are trying to do now. His ideal was the idea of 'Germanness' a way of being. There is a proper German word for this but I can't bring it to mind at the moment.
You can't take on the world and expect to win.

...If you find this impossible please explain how you came to this conclusion...

How's the above looking ?

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thats good HAL, maybe a bit heavy with the war but, good.
DIE GLOCKE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
they called this a wonder weapon,
I wonder why
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« Reply #456 on: May 11th, 2016, 06:23am »

UFOs from Munich announced H.T. Rowe on November 27, 1954 in 7 Tage:

The next few weeks will show if the Secret of the Flying Saucers has been solved or not. It looks as if the Engineer Curt Piltz from Munich is hard on the trail of the mysterious flying objects that have for years been stirring the emotions of people on all five continents. Curt Piltz. a 42 year old Maschinenbau Ingenieur from East Germany, insists he has the plans for a circular flying object with hereto unknown aerial qualities in his pocket. And even more: In a hidden work shop, somewhere on the outskirts of Munich, he and a colleague are feverishly completing his first ‘Saucer’. He hopes to conduct the first start attempts already within the next few weeks. Ever since the days during the Second World War when he was allowed to assist Professor Wachsmuth in constructing V1 and V2 at the testing area in Peenemünde, he occupied his mind with thoughts of a circular flying object. After the war Curt Piltz went back to constructing anew. And finally he reached the point that he could start his first model near Hannover in August 1952. It took him four months of work to build this first model of a Flying Saucer, at a cost of around 240 DM. It had a diameter of 1.5 metes and consisted of two disks rotating in opposite directions, joined by a solid, gas filled center part which served as an axle.

A catapult like starting device hurled the model into the sky – and the miracle happened; it stayed aloft for about an hour without crashing. May kilometers from the launching pad, Curt Piltz could then see the smoking wreckage; it had crashed on landing. Despite financial worries Piltz continued his work. In May and June of 1954 he launched two new models in the outskirts of Munich. Their Success encouraged him. He is now building the first Saucer, that is to soar into the heavens – manned. Again we are dealing with two disks of approximately 6.5 meters, who rotate in opposition around a gondola where the pilot is to sit. Propulsion is by means of a gasoline engine, which is also fitted into the gondola. Piltz is convinced that the Russian and Americans have for a long time been testing ‘Flying Saucer’ models; those are the mysterious sky visions which keep being constantly sighted throughout the world in the last years.


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« Reply #457 on: May 11th, 2016, 06:33am »

on May 11th, 2016, 06:04am, MOKSHA wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
they called this a wonder weapon,
I wonder why

Maybe because it never existed. That article contains too many qualifiers for my taste i.e., purported, popularized, speculation, science fiction fandom, alleged, although no evidence, conjecture, supposed, ...

Not a reassuring testament to this thing being real in my book. More is needed for me to believe this is other than a spun tale that has found a limited targeted audience.
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« Reply #458 on: May 11th, 2016, 07:47am »

on May 11th, 2016, 06:23am, pos1tron wrote:
UFOs from Munich announced H.T. Rowe on November 27, 1954 in 7 Tage:
A catapult like starting device hurled the model into the sky – and the miracle happened; it stayed aloft for about an hour without crashing.

This bothers me. It needed to be thrown into the air first? Seems to me it would be more an engineering challenge to have it recover and stabilize itself from the toss then to just lift itself up nice and easy. It had to be pretty sophisticated (auto internal controlled?) to pull this off. It's a contradiction that makes no sense. Why did it have to be hurled into the sky?

And never mind the propulsion and fuel (gasoline?) what about the control system to have it remain aloft for an hour. And it only took him 4 months to build it.

I gotta call BS on this one.

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« Reply #459 on: May 11th, 2016, 09:47am »

Die Glocke :'The Bell'.

Yet another of those stories that can not be shown to have any validity. It's been doing the rounds for years.

Has been the subject of a few ufo documentaries.

These are self perpetuating myths that really do need some very intense investigation or need putting to sleep forever.

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« Reply #460 on: May 11th, 2016, 09:50am »

Ed,

Looking at that 'saucer' I wondered, as it was unique, why paint numerous seven digit numbers on the side of it.

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« Reply #461 on: May 11th, 2016, 10:00am »

Re: response #450 above.

I suspect that the Germans didn't have any Nuclear research information after the war that we didn't already have.

By the way, you all do know that the Nuclear bomb was built in America simply because you can't do something like that in war conditions.

But it was our idea.

If Germany had had uninterrupted time it is possible that they would have got there first.

And whilst on the subject. The original idea was to use it on Germany. I wondered who decided it was expeditious to incinerate thousands of Europeans to end that particular war. Maybe the same person who decided to fry the Japanese instead.

We can be glad WWII ended when it did. Another few month and the world would be a very different place.

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« Reply #462 on: May 11th, 2016, 10:53am »

to get back to the original subject, i just did a video on tsiolkovsky

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« Reply #463 on: May 11th, 2016, 11:24am »


Lunar gravity = 1/6 of Earth's.

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« Reply #464 on: May 11th, 2016, 11:44am »

lunar gravity is actually 50-60% of earth's.
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