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« Reply #480 on: May 11th, 2016, 8:36pm »

think of earth as a high voltage capacitor with counterrotating electrodes and a 600 miles thick liquid obsidian dielectric between them. this counterrotation causes crossing of electrostatic and magnetic fields which, in turn, produces it's own gravitational field, a push-pull zone in the vacuum pressure. it is obviously a non-inertial field, as we don't feel movement although we are moving at great speed, thus, it is a natural spaceship.

like i said before, there is a magnetic barrier behind the moon, so called "chinvat bridge" which is the limit of earth's atmospheria, for incaranate or discarnate beings. trying to leave this barrier without your gravitational field would be an instant suicide.

when spaceships approach the planet, they always do so with the planet's rotation, doing so in the opposite direction would shatter them to pieces. that is why some asteroids make it into orbit and eventually fall down while others are smashed.



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« Reply #481 on: May 11th, 2016, 9:06pm »

on May 11th, 2016, 8:36pm, pos1tron wrote:
think of earth as a high voltage capacitor with counterrotating electrodes and a 600 miles thick liquid obsidian dielectric between them.

Are you saying the outer shell is one plate of the capacitor and the other is a counter rotating inner shell separated by the obsidian dielectric?
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« Reply #482 on: May 11th, 2016, 9:30pm »

yes, that is what i am saying. even the conventional "science" has recognized that inner and outer shell counterrotate.

on May 11th, 2016, 9:06pm, GhostofEd wrote:
Are you saying the outer shell is one plate of the capacitor and the other is a counter rotating inner shell separated by the obsidian dielectric?
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« Reply #483 on: May 11th, 2016, 10:42pm »

What are your thoughts about Tesla ?

Edit to add : That's an interesting discussion you and Ed are having...please don't let my question interrupt that.
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« Reply #484 on: May 11th, 2016, 11:57pm »

that is quite a general question. he was one of gods of electricity, and consequently, gravity. from "Lost Science" by Gerry Vassilatos:

Nikola Tesla observed and described the action of such staccato electrostatic impulses on matter in Colorado Springs; particularly on the levitation of dust particles. He later described a heavier than air ship, which he said, was entirely driven by electrical energies, lacking propellers or jets. There are those legendary reports by those who claimed to have seen this device in operation, which have surfaced. An elderly gentleman, the son of a local rancher, described what his father claimed to have seen one night several miles from Tesla's experimental station in Colorado Springs.

Tesla was seen standing on a platform, surrounded by a purplish corona, some thirty feet above the ground. The contrivance had a small coil aft, and was entirely covered underneath with a smooth surface of sheet copper. The platform was perhaps two feet in total depth, being crammed with components. Tesla strode over to the platform, stood before a control panel, and whisked aloft in a crown of white sparks. The excessive sparks subsided with increased distance form the ground, often arcing to metal fencing. Tesla went out of his way to avoid the numerous metallic ranch fencing beneath his aerial course.

What originally attracted the rancher out into the night air was a stallion who had become spirited by the strange buzzing craft. It was said the Tesla often delighted in soaring through the night air for hours each night. He was dressed in his characteristic garb, sans top hat. Tesla became enthralled with the operation of his flying platform, traveling to great distances. Tapping energy directly from his Magnifying Transmitter, the device had an unlimited range. Others had witnessed these strange midnight journeys across the ranchlands.


on May 11th, 2016, 10:42pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
What are your thoughts about Tesla ?

Edit to add : That's an interesting discussion you and Ed are having...please don't let my question interrupt that.


on May 11th, 2016, 10:42pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
What are your thoughts about Tesla ?

Edit to add : That's an interesting discussion you and Ed are having...please don't let my question interrupt that.
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« Reply #486 on: May 12th, 2016, 03:18am »

underside of the tt brown 16 foot wide prototype from 1960

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« Reply #487 on: May 12th, 2016, 05:43am »

from Breakthrough to New Free Energy Sources by Dan Davidson

John W. Keely, discoverer of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics, found a means of negating the effect of gravity as well as developing a form of propulsion.

From 1888 to 1893, Keely worked on developing his system of "Aerial Navigation." The first successful test was in 1893 which led the way to the construction of an aerial craft.

In 1896, Mr. Keely had so perfected his system that he arranged to give a demonstration of the aerial craft to the United States War Department. In attendance at the demonstration were a number of invited members of the press.

Descriptions of the craft state that it was a circular platform roughly 6 feet in diameter. On this platform was mounted a small stool set before a keyboard. The keyboard was attached to numerous tuned resonation plates and vibratory mechanisms.

[Note: We can assume that Keely had some mechanical process, possibly electrical, for keeping the vibratory mechanisms and tuned plates going. This appears to be what created the "polarized field" indicated in the next paragraph below.]

Mr. Keely explained that these plates would cause the craft to rise and float above the ground when subjected to a polarized field which would generate a "negative attraction." When the effect was produced, the craft would come under the influence of [what Keely referred to as] the "etheric polar current."

The controlling mechanism consisted of a row of 100 vibratory bars representing the enharmonic and diatonic scales. When half of the bars were damped the craft would move at 500 miles per hour. If all the bars were damped, gravity would resume control and the craft would settle to the earth.

[Note: Obviously these bars are not the main generators of the sound vibrations; they only change the way the vibrations are flowing through the device by their resonance. Dampening certain bars allowed Keely to make slight changes in the direction of the flow in the CU that was surrounding the craft, thus changing how the craft traveled through Earth‘s gravity.]

There were no moving parts in the ship's propelling mechanism. [Note: However, it is still producing a “polarized field ” somehow to create the main vibrations that allow it to levitate.]

It was unaffected by weather and could rise above any storm. The instrument for guiding the airship was distinctly different from the propelling feature. By damping out certain specific notes, Keely could cause the airship to accelerate to any desired speed.

The experiment was carried out in an open field with observers from the War Department and news media. The ship was said to have accelerated from 0 to 500 miles per hour within a few seconds.

Most astounding was the apparent total lack of acceleration effects to Mr. Keely as he sat on the stool before the keyboard, controlling the airship.

Although the government officials were impressed, they stated [that] they could see no use for such a complex device and so did not pursue the matter further. (Remember [that] the Wright Brothers did not demonstrate their airplane at Kittyhawk, NC until December 17, 1903; seven years later!)
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« Reply #488 on: May 12th, 2016, 06:27am »

it is a shame some people don't participate in the thread anymore.
sometimes i take the silence as an act of bowing down.

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Maybe it's a rumor or here say, but I read a meme just a few days ago about Teslas patents being released,,,or at least some which were "held up". Not sure.

You mention T.T. Brown. He was highly intelligent. I had the pleasure of chatting with his daughter a couple years ago online in a few pm's. I lost contact when that forum dissolved unfortunately. Bummer.

Hal mentioned Podkletnov earlier in the thread.....all great minds imo.

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« Reply #491 on: May 12th, 2016, 11:25am »

on May 11th, 2016, 9:30pm, pos1tron wrote:
yes, that is what i am saying. even the conventional "science" has recognized that inner and outer shell counterrotate.

I thought the inner and outer rotated in very much the same direction give or take a few degrees. There's also a small speed difference too.

As to the generated fields and effects on objects (asteroids, UFO'S) entering our atmosphere I really can't comment on. I don't recall ever hearing about spaceships having to enter orbit with the planets rotation due to fields.
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on May 12th, 2016, 03:18am, pos1tron wrote:
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These don't do it for me. They look like photographs of small objects (gadgets) intentionally blurred and cropped to obscure them and remove any frame of references to determine true size.
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I believe the one referred to is at the end of the video Ed.
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