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« Reply #675 on: Jul 6th, 2016, 6:54pm »

There there.. keep posting, post a lot more.

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« Reply #677 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 1:57pm »

on Jul 6th, 2016, 4:22pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
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I have reapplied for my Intergalactic Critter License! When it is renewed I shall be surprised if they don't head here and give me a chance to take care of that particular infestation!

I understand that they have given me a 'No Limit' ticket this time! Should be fun!

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« Reply #678 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 2:03pm »

on Jul 7th, 2016, 07:19am, pos1tr0n wrote:
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Pos1tr0n, you're doing great with your visuals (at least as far as I'm concerned, I view and consider, trying to be as unbiased as possible), and black and white in above image conceivably could represent respectively bodies of water and illuminated habitation.

Of course we must be willing to step on the toes of mainstream science and NASA history to even think like this. Presupposes a humongous conspiracy...

I would find it helpful to learn more of your images' provenance, where and how made (mission name), where published (NASA, ESA, the Sovjets etc.), and the source you took it from for this thread.

For starters the one overhead if possible!

I wonder if anyone (NASA themselves, or moonconspiracy theorists) modified them?


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« Reply #679 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 2:49pm »

The crop above is the same Mare Marginis photo by Chang'e 5 that i have been posting here for some time now, i changed the color to match the real moon color, but it's way off. Source image is also arificially colorized as you can see. I have colorized it again to match the moon's yellowish color and changed brightness/contrast a bit.

Note there are blotches of whiter areas in some of the cities. I guess those are centers of higher density. Also the question is who exactly lives in these cities, are they all humans or not. Many questions, little answers.

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Desscription from the source: The Chang'e 5 test vehicle launched on October 23, 2014, looping around the far side of the Moon before returning to Earth in a test of sample return technology. It took this photo of Mare Marginis on October 28 after rounding the farside.

on Jul 7th, 2016, 2:03pm, purr wrote:
Pos1tr0n, you're doing great with your visuals (at least as far as I'm concerned, I view and consider, trying to be as unbiased as possible), and black and white in above image conceivably could represent respectively bodies of water and illuminated habitation.

Of course we must be willing to step on the toes of mainstream science and NASA history to even think like this. Presupposes a humongous conspiracy...

I would find it helpful to learn more of your images' provenance, where and how made (mission name), where published (NASA, ESA, the Sovjets etc.), and the source you took it from for this thread.

For starters the one overhead if possible!

I wonder if anyone (NASA themselves, or moonconspiracy theorists) modified them?


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« Reply #680 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 3:30pm »

Just like in this old Ganymede photo, all white areas are cities. Ganymede's real name is Morlen and it has been a center of Galactic Federation for the last 2000 years.

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« Reply #681 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 3:51pm »

on Jul 7th, 2016, 2:49pm, pos1tr0n wrote:
The crop above is the same Mare Marginis photo by Chang'e 5 that i have been posting here for some time now, i changed the color to match the real moon color, but it's way off. Source image is also arificially colorized as you can see. I have colorized it again to match the moon's yellowish color and changed brightness/contrast a bit.

Note there are blotches of whiter areas in some of the cities. I guess those are centers of higher density. Also the question is who exactly lives in these cities, are they all humans or not. Many questions, little answers.

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Thanks Pos, I will be viewing/examining these images the coming days, mulling over, googling for variants of same and consider your claims/beliefs carefully.

Now here's sumtin I shamelessly relay from other members (at a shadow smiley topic in our Moon forum). This site shows purportedly a comparison between the same lunar region, showing clear moon structures versus no moon structures. Could you scroll to post # 9 by Senior Member Trailblazer. Any comment? How do you see this? Which of the two images is hoaxed/deceptive, and how would you argue the case?


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« Reply #682 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:09pm »

I am aware of that alleged Chang'e 2 photo. I cannot be sure, but as i remember from my research, it appears not to be Chang'e 2 photo after all but modified Apollo frame. That would imply fake, but since virtually all Apollo frames have been faked/airbrushed by NASA, could it be a leaked un-airbrushed frame? Like i said, cannot be sure.

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Thanks Pos, I will be viewing/examining these images the coming days, mulling over, googling for variants of same and consider your claims/beliefs carefully.

Now here's sumtin I shamelessly relay from other members (at a shadow smiley topic in our Moon forum). This site shows purportedly a comparison between the same lunar region, showing clear moon structures versus no moon structures. Could you scroll to post # 9 by Senior Member Trailblazer. Any comment? How do you see this? Which of the two images is hoaxed/deceptive, and how would you argue the case?


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« Reply #683 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:19pm »

on Jul 7th, 2016, 4:09pm, pos1tr0n wrote:
I am aware of that alleged Chang'e 2 photo. I cannot be sure, but as i remember from my research, it appears not to be Chang'e 2 photo after all but modified Apollo frame. That would imply fake, but since virtually all Apollo frames have been faked/airbrushed by NASA, could it be a leaked un-airbrushed frame? Like i said, cannot be sure.



OK, but I wish all sides to the issue would place references to (most) original source, plus any government/space agency/conspiracy site linkage.

I have difficulty ascertaining how these visual representations relate to the real world/planet environment underlaying the imagery.


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« Reply #684 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 4:34pm »

I dug deeper and wider than most researchers. What has been presented so far is on the limit of the available materials. Only way to obtain better materials like close ups of the Moon surface including cities, lakes etc would be sending a drone to orbit the Moon and land in the midst of one of the cities.. which is now technically not a problem at all but it is not time yet. No one really wants that, in fact, most still OPPOSE this idea. In short, masses do NOT want nor deserve the truth in my humble opinion. Maybe in 5-10 years.

on Jul 7th, 2016, 4:19pm, purr wrote:
OK, but I wish all sides to the issue would place references to (most) original source, plus any government/space agency/conspiracy site linkage.

I have difficulty ascertaining how these visual representations relate to the real world/planet environment underlaying the imagery.


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on Jul 7th, 2016, 4:34pm, pos1tr0n wrote:
I dug deeper and wider than most researchers. What has been presented so far is on the limit of the available materials. Only way to obtain better materials like close ups of the Moon surface including cities, lakes etc would be sending a drone to orbit the Moon and land in the midst of one of the cities.. which is now technically not a problem at all but it is not time yet. No one really wants that, in fact, most still OPPOSE this idea. In short, masses do NOT want nor deserve the truth in my humble opinion. Maybe in 5-10 years.



How in your view ought human beings to change/improve to "deserve" the ideas which you so strongly believe to constitute Truth, Pos1tr0n?

(I agree we should be able to verify firsthand, but that's not yet within the realm of possibility. And if you're correct, it may not even be allowed by those in the know.)


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« Reply #686 on: Jul 7th, 2016, 5:48pm »

To rise out of stupidity and show interest. But i understand it is a slow process and there is no need to forcefully accelerate it. I don't really need verifying, i have no doubts about my claims, but we should first clean the mess downhere. All in it's due time.

EDIT: No one asks those in the know for allowance. They have no authority over Moon or who or what goes there.

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How in your view ought human beings to change/improve to "deserve" the ideas which you so strongly believe to constitute Truth, Pos1tr0n?

(I agree we should be able to verify firsthand, but that's not yet within the realm of possibility. And if you're correct, it may not even be allowed by those in the know.)


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« Reply #687 on: Jul 10th, 2016, 03:30am »

on Jul 7th, 2016, 5:48pm, pos1tr0n wrote:
To rise out of stupidity and show interest. But i understand it is a slow process and there is no need to forcefully accelerate it. I don't really need verifying, i have no doubts about my claims, but we should first clean the mess downhere. All in it's due time.

EDIT: No one asks those in the know for allowance. They have no authority over Moon or who or what goes there.



Ha, in that case I'm 'improving' cheesy (at least I'm INTERESTED)! Pos1tr0n, my side questions were on the conspiracy side, discrete human activity intent on distorting the issues we are investigating, and when I wrote "not allow", I wasn't thinking of asking permission (from whom??) but of hypothetical groups charged with maintaining national security willing/capable to shut up any perceived threats to said national security.

(My fam has been around quite a few military/law enforcement guys, absorbing the world view like, and I've distilled from their stories it's not wise to step on any sensitive state-toes. Regardless of THE TRUTH or 'the greater good'. Simply not good for health smiley.)

So, if for the sake of argument (no problemo!) I model your claims to be true, it follows sumbody from the 1950s onward must have classified the hell out of the real Moon information, and will go to extraordinary lengths to keep it secret. Understand what I'm trying to say, Pos?

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« Reply #688 on: Jul 10th, 2016, 04:52am »

Of course, there are governmental agencies like CIA, NSA, DIA and others and non-governmental organizations, (satanic) secret societies like Scottish Rite, Club of Rome, Jesuit Knights of Malta, Vatican Jesuits and many other who's name we don't even know (and they are all actually intertwined) that would and did kill to keep this from the public.

How many did they kill and silence? Who knows, but then again these same groups started all the wars, drug traffic etc so the kill count is actually much bigger.

In short they are very weak and powerless as great Henry Deacon said and they are simply going to ride the bike till the end of the road as great Gordon Novel said.


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Ha, in that case I'm 'improving' cheesy (at least I'm INTERESTED)! Pos1tr0n, my side questions were on the conspiracy side, discrete human activity intent on distorting the issues we are investigating, and when I wrote "not allow", I wasn't thinking of asking permission (from whom??) but of hypothetical groups charged with maintaining national security willing/capable to shut up any perceived threats to said national security.

(My fam has been around quite a few military/law enforcement guys, absorbing the world view like, and I've distilled from their stories it's not wise to step on any sensitive state-toes. Regardless of THE TRUTH or 'the greater good'. Simply not good for health smiley.)

So, if for the sake of argument (no problemo!) I model your claims to be true, it follows sumbody from the 1950s onward must have classified the hell out of the real Moon information, and will go to extraordinary lengths to keep it secret. Understand what I'm trying to say, Pos?

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« Reply #689 on: Jul 10th, 2016, 05:06am »

It is a great irony how mankind is blind to the obvious and simplest phenomena (as i was too before). Take inertial propulsion. You will now learn how simple basic principle is yet it breaks all the "laws" of modern "science", particulary newton's thrid "law", "law" of conservation of momentum and "law" of conservation of energy.

This video is a great demonstration of this fundamental principle. As long as the ball oscillates in the right, yellow area, cart will continue to accelerate in that direction whether it is on ground, in air or in space.

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