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« Thread started on: May 25th, 2016, 3:22pm »


This is HUGE !!! shocked

http://www.space.com/32980-extremely-large-telescope-could-unlock-secrets-of-alien-planets-how-it-works-video.html




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« Reply #1 on: May 25th, 2016, 3:39pm »

Cliff,

Pretty impressive.

Have you seen the new Chinese radio telescope ?

Much bigger than Aricibo.

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« Reply #2 on: May 25th, 2016, 4:05pm »


Yes sir !

I posted a video on Fb awhile back I think. I'll do some digging. It too is very impressive.

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« Reply #3 on: Jun 2nd, 2016, 09:43am »



This one will be a great one.

@Hal.....I found a video of the China radio telescope, but had difficulties loading yesterday,,,will try to find that specific one. I haven't forgot.

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 2nd, 2016, 10:48am »

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Basically a much bigger version of Arecibo. And, of course, more modern looking. It's surprising what you can build when you have a one party government.

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« Reply #5 on: Jun 16th, 2016, 9:28pm »

Still haven't forgot Hal. I think I posted it somewhere quite awhile back. There is a specific video I'm searching for.

When combining radio telescopes, using interferometry, astronomers can bypass the need for larger primary mirrors,or objectives. This method, when combined, brings resolution to new limits.....



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« Reply #6 on: Jun 25th, 2016, 6:28pm »

on Jun 2nd, 2016, 10:48am, INT21 wrote:
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Basically a much bigger version of Arecibo. And, of course, more modern looking. It's surprising what you can build when you have a one party government.

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Construction is complete. It is being tested and they're working out the glitches. Operation is scheduled for Sept. They ( China ) want to be the first to detect alien signals, among other things.....This thing is huge !


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« Reply #7 on: Jun 28th, 2016, 12:26am »

This one isn't extremely large, lol, but it is exactly like the one I owned back in my teenage years and early twenties. Halleys comet was so cool to see through it, among so many other things.......

The counterweight alone was 50 pounds. This thing was heavy !!!
It wasn't considered portable by any means......

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Tinsley Laboratories finished the mirrors on the James Webb Space Telescope which is now optically complete.
They haven't built amateur scopes for many years.

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 28th, 2016, 05:40am »

Cliff,

If money is no problem, may I suggest.....

http://moonrakertelescopes.co.uk/index.html


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« Reply #9 on: Jun 28th, 2016, 10:31am »

on Jun 28th, 2016, 05:40am, INT21 wrote:
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If money is no problem, may I suggest.....

http://moonrakertelescopes.co.uk/index.html


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Damn!! Those are very nice!!

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« Reply #10 on: Jul 11th, 2016, 9:11pm »

Here is more on China's radio telescope:



China Opens the Aperture to the Cosmos


The world's largest telescope dish is the most sensitive device yet pointed to the universe.


By Elias Brinks, Contributor
July 11, 2016


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China completed construction of its 500-meter Aperture Spherical Radio Telescope (FAST), the largest radio telescope in the world on July 3. (VCG via Getty Images)

Boasting half a kilometer in diameter, it is the largest telescope dish in the world to date. The 500-meter Aperture Spherical Radio Telescope (FAST), which has been under construction in the Guizhou Province in southwest China since 2011, was completed on July 3 when the final panel was lowered into position. Excitingly, this new eye on the sky will be able to search for new exoplanets, gravitational waves and even signals from extraterrestrial civilizations.

FAST handsomely beats the Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico into second place, with its 305-meter diameter dish. But the two giant telescopes are similar. Each uses natural geological depressions in the landscape known as "karst," giant sinkholes created by nature, that fit the rough outline of the telescope dish. Both are static structures in the sense that the dish only looks straight up, staring at the zenith. They therefore depend on the rotation of the Earth for different parts of the sky to come into view over the course of the day. To follow an object for a few hours at a time, the detector, which is suspended above the center of the dish, can be shifted. This is much akin to moving one's head in front of a mirror left to right in order to scan what lies behind.

But while the Arecibo detector cage hangs in a fixed position, the FAST telescope uses an ingenious mechanism based on cables and pulleys that allows it to position the entire detector cage anywhere across the face of the dish. Another major difference is that Arecibo's dish is of a fixed, spherical shape whereas FAST uses an advanced system of cables and actuators that deform the spherical mirror, much like a rubber sheet, to create a parabolic shape. This allows a two to three times larger part of the sky to be accessed than is possible with Arecibo.

Thanks to its innovative design, FAST can track objects passing overhead for longer than Arecibo. It is also expected to be twice as sensitive and have five to 10 times the surveying speed of Arecibo.

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Even though construction is completed, Chinese scientists and engineers still have a huge task to make the system reach the design specifications and ultimately deliver new and exciting scientific results. As the name already suggests, this is a radio telescope, picking up radiation from the cosmos at wavelengths of between 0.1 meter and 4 meters This is light with a wavelength a million times or so longer than our eyes can detect. Not surprisingly, the sky at these long wavelengths looks vastly different which is exactly why observations at radio wavelengths reveal information that is not accessible with optical telescopes.

The long wavelength does have problem though, which is that the resolution, or sharpness of an image, decreases with increasing wavelength. To compensate for this, the telescope aperture has to increase, which is the main reason for FAST's giant proportions. Despite its size, the resolution will at best be several times worse than that of the human eye, and 400 times worse than the image quality routinely achieved by ground-based optical telescopes. There is a benefit, however, which is that the large size of the dish makes for a giant "bucket" to collect emission coming from the cosmos, making it a sensitive detector able to pick up weak signals. So "bigger is really better," especially when it comes to radio telescopes.

FAST is optimized to detect signals coming from neutral hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe. This is found in diffuse clouds in the interstellar medium that fills the space between the stars in galaxies. This is the raw material from which stars form. FAST will be able to make a complete census down to much lower levels of the hydrogen content of the local universe than has been possible so far. How much hydrogen is found, where and in what kind of agglomerations, will have direct consequences for how scientists think the universe evolved from its earliest phase and how galaxies formed and have continued to grow with time.

The planet Jupiter emits meter-wave radiation. Thanks to its exquisite sensitivity Jupiter-like planets may be detected with FAST around around stars in the neighborhood of the sun. Fascinatingly, it can also eavesdrop on distant worlds to search for intelligent life (a technique known as SETI). FAST is also expected to detect thousands of pulsars rotating, dead stellar remnants of old, burned-out stars that emit a beam of radiation in the Milky Way.

Scientists can use the incredibly stable pulses these objects emit as high-precision clocks to reveal gravitational waves from massive black holes or even from the Big Bang. This is because a gravitational wave passing through space will momentarily change distances between pulsars resulting in ever so slight changes in the arrival time of their pulses.

FAST complements and extends the capabilities of other leading radio telescopes, such as the Very Large Array in New Mexico, U.S. But eventually it is expected to be overtaken by the Square Kilometer Array (SKA), an international project in which China is a full partner. SKA combines a huge collecting area some four times larger than FAST with superb imaging capabilities, rivaling that of space-based optical telescopes.


This article was written by Elias Brinks, professor of astronomy at University of Hertfordshire for The Conversation on July 11, 2016. It is republished here with permission.

http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-07-11/china-builds-worlds-largest-radio-telescope

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 22nd, 2016, 7:49pm »

The world's largest telescope will begin search for alien life next week

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Construction of the Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope, or FAST, will come to an end this week, and on September 25th, will promptly begin the search for alien life.

Previously, the biggest telescope in the world was the Arecibo, which can be found in Puerto Rico, and measures 305 meters (or 1,000 feet) in diameter, which the FAST eclipses by 640 feet.

There is a telescope in Russia, named the RATAN-600, which is technically bigger in diameter, with a 576 meter diameter ring, but it is a series of telescopes as opposed to the one FAST telescope, and it's 'collection area' (i.e. the amount of space it can gather date from) is much smaller than both the FAST and the Arecibo.

Douglas Vakoch, president of METI International, an organization dedicated to detecting alien intelligence, told CNN: "China's latest telescope will be able to look faster and further than past searches for extraterrestrial intelligence. [...] Because of FAST's incredible sensitivity, it will be able to chart the hydrogen distribution even in far flung galaxies. [...] FAST may help explain the origin of the universe and the structure of the cosmos, but it won't provide warning of Earth-bound asteroids that could destroy human civilization."

Peng Bo, director of the NAO Radio Astronomy Technology Laboratory, told China's official press agency Xinhua: "FAST's potential to discover an alien civilization will be five to 10 (times) that of current equipment, as it can see farther and darker planets."

Just last month, scientists announced they had discovered planets outside our solar system that could potentially be inhabitable for humans.

http://www.newstalk.com/The-worlds-largest-telescope-will-begin-search-for-alien-life-this-week

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« Reply #12 on: Oct 19th, 2016, 3:03pm »

It's only a matter of time Swamprat. I hope the human race can accept that when it happens. shocked

I however, I wont be surprised. lipsrsealed

DARPA's Space Surveillance Telescope. How it works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kYhPpT2O9Q

It will soon be transitioned to the U.S.A.F. SPACE COMMAND

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on Oct 19th, 2016, 3:03pm, Agent19k wrote:
It's only a matter of time Swamprat. I hope the human race can accept that when it happens. shocked

I however, I wont be surprised. lipsrsealed

DARPA's Space Surveillance Telescope. How it works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kYhPpT2O9Q

It will soon be transitioned to the U.S.A.F. SPACE COMMAND

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