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« Reply #165 on: Nov 8th, 2014, 07:48am »

Latest from yours truly at 'The UFO Trail': 'Standing Eight Count for the MJ-12'. Kevin Randle declares the MJ-12 myth finally dead, a very informative video from Alejandro Rojas, forensic linguistic testing of select MJ-12 docs, notes on Col. John Alexander and more:

http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2014/11/standing-eight-count-for-mj-12.html
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« Reply #166 on: Nov 8th, 2014, 6:19pm »

Excellent work MrJJ. So much for the documents but not so much for cabals and every department has one. cool
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« Reply #167 on: Nov 8th, 2014, 10:12pm »

on Nov 8th, 2014, 6:19pm, Inktomi wrote:
Excellent work MrJJ. So much for the documents but not so much for cabals and every department has one. cool


Thank you, inktomi. I appreciate your interest.
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« Reply #168 on: Nov 9th, 2014, 2:44pm »

The docs located by Bragalia and Randle, referencing Majestic and deconstructing the MJ-12 UFO myth, are now available for viewing at 'The UFO Chronicles':

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2014/11/majestic-found.html
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« Reply #169 on: Nov 11th, 2014, 10:33am »

I'm usually not one for videos, but the presentation below by Alejandro Rojas is done quite well. I highly recommend it for those interested in the sagas of MJ-12, Bennewitz, Doty, etc. How it all intersects and what can be traced/confirmed about it is explored.

Documents Rojas obtained from the USAF and summarizes during his presentation may be viewed here:

http://alejandrotrojas.com/files/DOTY-FOIA-ATR.pdf


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« Reply #170 on: Nov 11th, 2014, 2:36pm »

I'm not either JJ. Unless it is a good music video.
It is all about content now. This leads me to an old article in the magic year of 2007 which reminded me of the rule governing inquiries of any investigation dealing with reports on the internet. Follow the money, cherche la femm or look for the other woman, invented by the French..and here cherche la meme..
That being said I recommend due diligence in these matters and take everything with a mine of salt, even the RR type groups or even open minds.
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10366230/1/the-ufo-stock-portfolio.html


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If you have nothing to do this coming weekend, consider heading down to Roswell, N.M., to check out the Roswell UFO Festival taking place July 5-8.

This week marks the 60th anniversary of the infamous UFO sighting and alleged coverup in that town. Since we couldn't find any recent financial data for UFO Inc., Martian Ltd. or Alien Corp., we decided to use the Roswell UFO Festival sponsors to build a UFO portfolio.

The following companies sponsor the event:

20th Century Fox Film, which is owned by News Corp. (NWS),

McDonald's (MCD),

Hertz (HTZ),

Cable One, a subsidiary of The Washington Post (WPO),

Cessna Aircraft, a subsidiary of Textron (TXT),

vis, part of Avis Budget Group (CAR), and

Wells Fargo Bank (WFC).

You can keep track of this Roswell UFO Stock Portfolio at Stockpickr.

Finally, is there any correlation between major UFO sightings and the stock market? The chart below plots the performance of the Dow Jones Industrial Average against the frequency of UFO sightings.

http://www.stockpickr.com/showforums/1/17358/

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News Corp $14.975 0.035
(0.23%) 20th Century Fox Film Corporation, owned by News Corp.
MCD
McDonald's Corp $95.01 -0.1
(-0.11%) McDonald's
HTZ
Hertz Global Hold... $22.35 0.34
(1.54%) Hertz
WPO
n.a. $699 -8.75
(-1.24%) Cable One, a subsidiary of The Washington Post Company
TXT
Textron Inc $41.75 -0.34
(-0.81%) Cessna Aircraft Company, subsidiary of Textron
CAR
Avis Budget Group... $57.72 -0.25
(-0.43%) Avis, Avis Budget Group, Inc.
WFC
Wells Fargo & Co $53.67 -0.16
(-0.3%) Wells Fargo Bank

Content providers pumping the blurs is much like the Fed pumping fiat dollars and you know where that got us.


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« Reply #171 on: Nov 11th, 2014, 3:20pm »

Well, everyone knows that past UFO's sightings do not guarantee anything about future sightings. grin

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« Reply #172 on: Nov 12th, 2014, 9:28pm »

on Nov 11th, 2014, 3:20pm, GhostofEd wrote:
Well, everyone knows that past UFO's sightings do not guarantee anything about future sightings. grin



I agree. Nothing worse than a rigged market than a rigged horse race.
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« Reply #173 on: Nov 23rd, 2014, 10:42am »

In various threads where we discuss conspiracies and deception, the question of motives of the conspirators often arises, particularly when it involves intelligence agencies. I have recently been browsing a three-volume set, 'Handbook of Information Security'. A description:

"The Handbook of Information Security is a definitive 3-volume handbook that offers coverage of both established and cutting-edge theories and developments on information and computer security.The text contains 207 articles from over 200 leading experts, providing the benchmark resource for information security, network security, information privacy, and information warfare."

From Volume 3, pp 651-652:

"A mathematical structure was developed in 1999 for understanding the implications of deception on attacker and defender on workload and timing issues (Cohen, 1999a). This effort resulted in the characterization of certain classes of deceptions as having the following properties (Cohen, 1999b):

"- Deception increases the attacker's workload.

"- Deception allows defenders to better track attacks and respond before attackers succeed.

"- Deception exhausts attacker resources.

"- Deception increases the sophistication required for attack.

"- Deception increases attacker uncertainty."

It is reasonable to question purposes and motives for obfuscation of information, but in a vast majority of circumstances involving UFOs and the IC, we simply do not have enough information to draw conclusions any more clearly than generally outlined above. I therefore think the accurate identification of the smoke and mirrors becomes very important, if not the primary issue. That might particularly be the case as compared to considering hypotheticals ad infinitum, which is actually part of the desired effect of the deception in the first place in some cases, and the UFO community seemingly becomes collateral damage.
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« Reply #174 on: Dec 1st, 2014, 6:58pm »

Keith Basterfield writes the blog, 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena - scientific research'. In his latest post, 'Dr. Bruce Maccabee and the CIA', Basterfield explores Maccabee's recently published book. Basterfield explains, "I have read numerous conspiracy based websites about the depth of the involvement of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), in UAP. Few people, however, have had the opportunity to interact with CIA personnel with an interest, in this area. So, it was with great delight that I read Maccabee's book titled 'The FBI CIA UFO Connection'."

Basterfield goes on to describe parts of the book and Maccabee's experience with the CIA. Some points of interest, in my opinion, from Basterfield's blog post:

1984:

Maccabee was at this stage working at the Naval Surface Weapons Center in Maryland, in the field of Laser Generated Underwater Sound (LGUS.) In August 1984, he received a call from a Dr Ronald Pandolfi. Pandolfi was"...a scientist and intelligence analyst in the Scientific Intelligence branch of the CIA." (p.299.) Pandolfi questioned Maccabee about LGUS. Pandolfi knew of Maccabee's UAP interests, and earlier visits to the CIA, via Kit Green. "Thus began a more than fifteen year association with Ron based on the original CIA interest in LGUS and an unofficial interest of Ron and other agency employees on the subject of UFOs and the status of UFO research." (p.301.)

1986:

Pandolfi resurfaced at the time of the 17 November 1986, JAL1628 aircraft encounter over Alaska. Maccabee learned of the case via Pandolfi on 30 December 1986 and "I told Ron about my concern and boldly asserted that I could do a better investigation than the FAA." (p.313.) Pandolfi contacted the FAA and arranged a meeting with John Callahan, Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA. Pandolfi, Maccabee and another CIA employee met on 5 February 1987 with Callahan and others. "Then, as we left, Ron surprised me with a gift: a box containing radar printouts, transcripts of interviews, a copy of the AARTCC voice tape and numerous other valuable documents." (p.316.)

"At the time of the investigation I wondered whether or not Ron would get into trouble for supplying me with the information I needed to analyse the sighting. After all, UFO investigation was not supposed to be a task of the CIA...Many years later (2008) he told me that there was an official concern but it was not that the UFOs may have been ET craft. Rather it was that they might have been Soviet jets trying to use a large commercial jet aircraft, as a sort of cover for clandestine flights over Alaska. (p.319.)

[Note: For more insight into this case, I would highly recommend a 2011 article at Reality Uncovered, in which the descriptions of events as reported by Kean and Callahan were greatly called into question.]

Summary:

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"...but there didn't seem to be an official reason for the CIA to pay any attention to UFO research. Then, in 1990, Ron told me the official reason: the possibility of espionage. He said that in the 1970's, the CIA had obtained "firm evidence" that the KGB had devised a plan to use US citizens, including UFOlogists, to penetrate the US defense program." (p.354.)

Full post:

http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2014/11/dr-bruce-maccabee-and-cia.html
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« Reply #175 on: Dec 1st, 2014, 10:20pm »

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea? A UFO?

The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device.
On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1].

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawk missiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode.

The US destroyer is equipped with the most recent Aegis Combat System. It is an integrated naval weapons systems which can link together the missile defense systems of all vessels embedded within the same network, so as to ensure the detection, tracking and destruction of hundreds of targets at the same time. In addition, the USS Donald Cook is equipped with 4 large radars, whose power is comparable to that of several stations. For protection, it carries more than fifty anti-aircraft missiles of various types.

Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.
As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.

After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania.

Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts, no US ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters again.

According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from the USS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service.

Vladimir Balybine - director of the research center on electronic warfare and the evaluation of so-called "visibility reduction" techniques attached to the Russian Air Force Academy - made the following comment:

"The more a radio-electronic system is complex, the easier it is to disable it through the use of electronic warfare."


A video presentation of the US Aegis system. Currently installed on the most sophisticated US Navy warships and in the process of being set up throughout the entire range of NATO naval forces, this missile defense system was completely knocked out in the Black Sea by a Russian electronic warfare device.


Visual display of the incident.
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[1] “Pentagon Protests Russian Jet Buzzing Antimissile Ship in Black Sea”, Global Security Newswire, 15 April 2014.

[2] Rossíyskaya Gazeta, 30 April 2014 edition.
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Recall The Tehran Incident

. 1976 Tehran incident: A UFO was believed to have disabled the electronic equipment of two F-4 interceptor aircraft as well as ground control equipment. The Iranian generals involved said on public record that they had thought the object was extraterrestrial.

Explanation: UFOs: The Public Deceived, a book by Philip Klass, claimed that witnesses saw an astronomical body - probably Jupiter - and pilot incompetence and equipment malfunction accounted for the rest.
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« Reply #176 on: Jan 7th, 2015, 11:41am »

on Jan 6th, 2015, 6:06pm, jjflash wrote:
Speaking of, well, the stuff we're speaking of, check out the latest post from Mark O'Connell, a MUFON investigator in Wisconsin, at his blog, 'High Strangeness':

http://www.highstrangenessufo.com/2015/01/the-phantom-menace.html?spref=tw

This could go in the 'Mirage Men' thread as well. Interesting.
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« Reply #177 on: Jan 8th, 2015, 01:07am »

Wow JJ

By this time it's clearly a commercial for a company that builds military aircraft, but to what end? I don't buy military aircraft, nor, I wager, does anyone else who was watching that football game. So why...?

Well, in a few seconds comes the big reveal. It's a message from Northrup Grumman, makers of fine aerial war machines, who apparently just wanted to remind the football-watching American public that they are keeping us safe with their fancy bombers and drones. So, hey, great! "This," intones the commercial voice, "is what we do."


Thank you, Northrup Grumman, I guess! Keep on doing that thing that you do.

Just then, when I think I'm grasping the message behind the imagery, the ominous voice says, "... And who knows what we'll do next?"

And there, on my TV screen, is an invisible **** aircraft cutting a V-shaped wake through the clouds...


hahahaha that was great,,Its like shaping the future for fun n profits grin

all those people take their infommercials seriously too.
Thanx for the find. JJ
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on Jan 8th, 2015, 01:07am, SysConfig wrote:
Wow JJ

By this time it's clearly a commercial for a company that builds military aircraft, but to what end? I don't buy military aircraft, nor, I wager, does anyone else who was watching that football game. So why...?

Well, in a few seconds comes the big reveal. It's a message from Northrup Grumman, makers of fine aerial war machines, who apparently just wanted to remind the football-watching American public that they are keeping us safe with their fancy bombers and drones. So, hey, great! "This," intones the commercial voice, "is what we do."


Thank you, Northrup Grumman, I guess! Keep on doing that thing that you do.

Just then, when I think I'm grasping the message behind the imagery, the ominous voice says, "... And who knows what we'll do next?"

And there, on my TV screen, is an invisible **** aircraft cutting a V-shaped wake through the clouds...


hahahaha that was great,,Its like shaping the future for fun n profits grin

all those people take their infommercials seriously too.
Thanx for the find. JJ


Thanks, Sys. I had read the circumstances of the original report back when O'Connell first posted about it (and it's linked in the current post). It was a rather interesting case to me, so I thought the latest turn of events were quite intriguing.

My personal opinion is that it's a pretty big red flag when one hears the stories about orbs or UFOs or whatever being "chased" or "accompanied" by military aircraft. Suffice it to say I don't think the most likely explanation would be that the objects in question are unknown to those doing the supposed chasing and accompanying. I therefore felt like O'Connell's latest post supported that perspective to a certain extent.
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« Reply #179 on: Feb 24th, 2015, 11:47am »

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Scientists periodically express concerns about a population at large which fails to trust the scientific method and those who practice it. Such dynamics are observable within the medical community and a segment of the public which resists vaccinations, for example. We are often told the blame lies in widely accepted yet irrational conspiracy theories and a general lack of education.

That is certainly accurate to some extent, but not entirely. At least partially to blame is the fact the intelligence community (IC) has a long and well documented history of exploiting the medical field and its unsuspecting patients.

Does that justify the public spreading measles around elementary schools? No, of course not – but that is not the point being offered for consideration.

The argument being put forth is that the environment created by collaborations between the IC, medical doctors and the professional research community propagate distrust and paranoia. The lack of public education has been used by the IC as an advantage at times, it is not always to its detriment, and to cite it as virtually the exclusive reason medical science is questioned is arguably hypocritical and disingenuous. It is true that rumors and inaccurate information fuel the public lack of trust of the scientific community, but it is equally true that the exploitation of the public shares some of the blame. Stick around a few paragraphs and you'll see one of the ways this ties directly to the UFO community.

Read the rest at:

http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2015/02/once-bitten-twice-shy.html
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