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« Reply #180 on: Feb 28th, 2015, 3:59pm »

Much as I like this feller..imo he is part of the games. He never answered what it was that resulted in photos being destroyed.early in his career...and was all too aware of the control systems at play...the one medium that may have given us answers to a host of issues..from war to ufos.. the internet..is now under control by political systems.thanx FCC..if we understand the medium is the message...then our expectations are a lot more scaled down..and with it the ability to shape our future without the good housekeeping seal of approval.

I thought putting his complete profile.gives us a better picture..of the competing synergies at work..

kicking the can up the road..

http://jacquesvallee.net/
Jacques F. Vallee serves as a General Partner of Euro-America Ventures, a Silicon Valley group that invests in North America and Europe, primarily in high-technology. He was born in France, where he received a B.S. in mathematics at the Sorbonne and an M.S. in astrophysics at Lille University. Coming to the U.S. as an astronomer at the University of Texas, where he co-developed the first computer-based map of Mars for NASA, Jacques later moved to Northwestern University where he received his Ph.D. in computer science. He went on to work at SRI International and the Institute for the Future, where he directed the project to build the world's first network-based groupware system as a Principal Investigator on Arpanet, the prototype for the Internet.

A venture capitalist with Euro-America since 1987, Jacques Vallee has spearheaded early-stage investments in over 60 high technology start-ups. One third of these companies reached the public markets. They include, SangStat Medical, a biotechnology firm based in Menlo Park, California and Nantes, France; Accuray, a medical device company specialized in robotic surgery; Ixys, a power semiconductor firm; and Ubique, Inc., a web teleconferencing company (acquired by AOL).

Other investments that he led for the fund include Com-21, P-Com, Harmonic Lightwaves, Regeneration Technologies and Mercury Interactive, all of which made successful IPOs on the Nasdaq market. He has also served as a director of Class Data Systems, a networking company (acquired by Cisco), and recently Alter-G, a medical device company. In Jan 2010, HandyLab was acquired by Becton-Dickinson.

Jacques is a member of the science board for the French Genopole, based in Evry (www.genopole.com) specializing in life sciences and was elected as a Trustee of the Institute for the Future (www.iftf.org). He has contributed a "Letter from California" column for Le Figaro.

Apart from his work with information technology and finance, Jacques has had a long-term private interest in astronomy, in writing fiction and in the frontiers of research, notably unidentified aerial phenomena. He also serves on the scientific advisory board of Bigelow Aerospace in Las Vegas, Nevada (www.bigelowaerospace.com). He was awarded the Jules Verne Prize in Paris for a science fiction novel in French.

Jacques and his family settled in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1969.

Mail can be addressed to Jacques Vallee at:
P.O. Box 641650, San Francisco, CA 94164


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« Reply #181 on: Feb 28th, 2015, 4:46pm »

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« Reply #182 on: Feb 28th, 2015, 8:59pm »

Oh my,
Then ,much of what he preaches is to promote his beliefs along with his "investments" throughout all the years at attempting convince humanity of his research?
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« Reply #183 on: Mar 1st, 2015, 9:35pm »

The following video is extremely topic specific. 45 minutes well spent, in my opinion.



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« Reply #184 on: Mar 1st, 2015, 10:19pm »

Not sure what one's day job has to do with their other interests when there is no obvious connection , but then I'm not as paranoid as many in the ufo circus.
But with that level of suspicion we shouldn't trust anyone writing about or researching ufos since almost all of them have made a buck or two from this and other areas that could be tied to self interests including past relationships.

As an example Stanton Friedman worked as a nuclear engineer for a company that had government contracts according to Friedman himself. Based on this knowledge and using 'guilt by association mentality' we should then be suspicious of anything he says. The same could probably be done regarding most ufologists or any 'insider' who wrote a book about ufos including the well known (and much believed by the ufo community) Colonel Corso who was an insider in the intel depts. in the govt.

Therefore I guess we should just dismiss all these participants as 'Mirage Men' since they all have
connections that might taint their honesty.

Then again it might be that those who follow this line of thinking especially in the ufo circus and the paranormal asylum might have some issues with seeing boogeymen under each and every bed due to the marginality and liminality that surrounds these areas as George Hansen has pointed out in his book The Trickster. And this can eventually lead to paranoia and complete lack of trust of any and all players and themes within a specific area.
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« Reply #185 on: Mar 14th, 2015, 11:29am »

Keith Basterfield on Bruce Maccabee's 2014 book, 'The FBI CIA UFO Connection':

I have read numerous conspiracy based websites about the depth of the involvement of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), in UAP. Few people, however, have had the opportunity to interact with CIA personnel with an interest, in this area. So, it was with great delight that I read Maccabee's book...

Maccabee was at this stage working at the Naval Surface Weapons Center in Maryland, in the field of Laser Generated Underwater Sound (LGUS.) In August 1984, he received a call from a Dr Ronald Pandolfi. Pandolfi was"...a scientist and intelligence analyst in the Scientific Intelligence branch of the CIA." (p.299.) Pandolfi questioned Maccabee about LGUS. Pandolfi knew of Maccabee's UAP interests, and earlier visits to the CIA, via Kit Green. "Thus began a more than fifteen year association with Ron based on the original CIA interest in LGUS and an unofficial interest of Ron and other agency employees on the subject of UFOs and the status of UFO research." (p.301.)

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"...but there didn't seem to be an official reason for the CIA to pay any attention to UFO research. Then, in 1990, Ron told me the official reason: the possibility of espionage. He said that in the 1970's, the CIA had obtained "firm evidence" that the KGB had devised a plan to use US citizens, including UFOlogists, to penetrate the US defense program." (p.354.)

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http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2014/11/dr-bruce-maccabee-and-cia.html

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« Reply #186 on: Mar 14th, 2015, 12:13pm »

Pretty clear the back and forth between powers and attendant deceptions has never stopped.
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« Reply #187 on: Apr 3rd, 2015, 8:47pm »

Some Mirages Are Just to Tough To Kill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3023646/From-babies-born-brainless-debilitating-deaths-Tragic-lives-unknowing-victims-infected-syphilis-horrific-study-suing-Johns-Hopkins-1BILLION.html
The United States government only admitted to this experiment in 2010, which was run by Dr. John Cutler, also known for his infamous experiment in Tuskegee, Alabama.
In that study, conducted between 1932 and 1972, Dr. Cutler and the US Public Health Service found African-American men in Alabama who had syphilis and claimed they were treating them for the disease, when they were not in fact doing so but rather studying how it progressed.
They also unknowingly infected some men with syphilis who did not have the disease.
Dr. Cutler defended the experiment even after public outcry had shut it down, saying in 1993: 'It was important that they were supposedly untreated, and it would be undesirable to go ahead and use large amounts of penicillin to treat the disease, because you’d interfere with the study.'
He would at one point in his career be appointed assistant Surgeon General of the United States.
In the end, the experiment resulted in the death of at least 83 individuals from syphilis.
In 1974, a $10million settlement was awarded along with lifetime medical benefits and burial services to all living participants.
Those benefits later grew to include all direct family members of victims in 1975.


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A federal judge dismissed a lawsuit against the U.S. government by many of the same plaintiffs in the current Hopkins lawsuit back in 2012.
That suit listed then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius as defendants, who released a statement at the time saying; 'Although these events occurred more than 64 years ago, we are outraged that such reprehensible research could have occurred under the guise of public health.'
They then added; 'We deeply regret that it happened, and we apologize to all the individuals who were affected by such abhorrent research practices.'
And while the case was dismissed on a legal technicality, Judge Reggie B. Walton, who rendered the decision, urged the plaintiffs to appeal for the compensation they deserve.
The US government cannot be held responsible in a court of law for any action committed in another country.
'For more than half a century since the time of the Guatemala study, scholars, ethicists and clinicians have worked with government officials to establish rigorous ethical standards for human research. Johns Hopkins welcomes bioethical inquiry into the U.S. Government's Guatemala study and its legacy,' Hopkins spokeswoman Kim Hoppe told The Baltimore Sun said in an email.
'This lawsuit, however, is an attempt by plaintiffs' counsel to exploit a historic tragedy for monetary gain.'
One of the attorneys for Hopkins meanwhile calls this suit 'baseless.'
It was medical historian Susan Reverby from Wellesley College in Massachusetts who first unearthed the shocking details of the tests while researching Dr. Cutler's archives in Pennsylvania.
'I was just completely blown away. I was floored,' she said at the time.
'I expected to find something on Tuskegee. There was nothing. What he left behind were these records from the Guatemala study.'
She then said; 'That was all he left behind. Why he did this, I have no idea. Why would you leave this?'



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« Reply #188 on: Apr 8th, 2015, 01:05am »

Their is deception by the mirage men through trickery and direct intervention and manipulation. we usually call them Them or They interchangeably. This is many times achieved through ommision of small details, that what we would like to call the truth pivots and becomes an untruth passed on and accepted to the public.

I came across a paper written by Manuel Borras a Spanish engineer which left me asking the question why would Jaque Vallee leave out and report erroneous material on the 1965 Fort de France French UFO report and subsequent references to it in his books.
http://www.ikaros.org.es/fortdefrance.pdf

Document translations of the Spanish PDF .as best I could yousing my own algorithms

Gerald, Michel, Jacques
Sightings of Fort-de-France (1965)
in perspective


The light
arabesques traced Gerald over the Caribbean to finance its dream changed the lives of
Michel and Jacques fueled speculation


Manuel Borraz


Know-and he said how much progress has made ballistic few years to this part and what degree of perfection had reached firearms, if the
war had continued. Do not know either that, in general, the resistance force of
cannons and the expansive power of gunpowder are unlimited. Well, based on this principle,
I wondered to myself if, through sufficient apparatus, made with certain conditions of
resistance, would be possible to send a bullet to the moon. Thus addressed his character associated Impey Barbicane, president of a fictitious Gun Club -Club cannon Baltimore
(Maryland), in the novel by Jules Verne "From the Earth to the Moon" (1865).


1961
In
October, a Canadian engineer of 33 years, Gerald Bull, travels to Baltimore to visit his
old friend Charles Murphy, head of the Laboratory Ballistics Research (BRL) US Army. Bull
seeks support for One HARP (High Altitude Research Project) which provides employ
instrumental launched from a cannon to study the upper atmosphere. Ultimately, the dream
caressed by Bull is to build a cannon capable of putting satellites in orbit, one way
low cost alternative to the use rocketry. Among other things, Bull gets the
Army southern neighbor an artillery piece of exceptional size (16 inches,
400 mm) and a radar tracking system that will be moved to the island
Caribbean Barbados. The siting of the test center is not casual. The McGill University of Montreal, sponsored the project, and maintains research ties with the island, the weather is favorable, the Atlantic is a vast and unpopulated range and, where appropriate, geographical proximity to
Ecuador is optimal for launching satellites. On the other hand, opportunities and
equipment provided by the Canadian project is a fallen godsend for 2Barbados, that will not put obstacles of any kind. Paris, June 14. An astrophysicist 22, Jérôme Serial, received the Award
Jules Verne for his novel "Le Sub-Espace", an annual award for the best film French science fiction.
Sériel sums up the argument, as recorded in France-Soir: "The subspace is an everyday twin
universe of our space which can only not be reached by humans accidentally. As a result of
a series of errors attributable to earthlings, an amazing war breaks out in that
extraordinary region. "Ultimately, the world seems less absurd than it was to first but-
simple dozen scientific researchers who are forced to react to inexplicable events have
understood its true depth.

Serial Jérôme is a pseudonym. The author's real name is Jacques Vallée. Since that June, began working at the observatory in Paris, in tasks of visual tracking and calculating orbits of artificial satellites.Experience a great disappointed to note how some outliers, corresponding to unidentified objects, are swept under the carpet to avoid complications. In their free time is dedicated to making
calculations to test the Aimé Michel hypothesis that UFO sightings of a single day is
produce a straight line ("ortotenia"). The interest Vallée by "flying saucers" goes back
to the very media 1954 autumn wave of a Sunday in May 1955 was secured in your area
natal, Pontoise, with a relatively unremarkable personal observation of a disk gray
metal, motionless and silent appearance, endowed with a kind of upper dometransparent. "I left
the firm impression that we respond, that the human dignity require an answer, if only an
acknowledgment symbolic of our ignorance. At that moment I realized that I ashamed of the
human race if we simply ignore "their" presence ".


1965

Toulon, July 1. The submarine
"Junon" of the French Navy sails at
meeting the submarine "Daphne" and logistic support
vessel "Rhône". They held
a joint maneuvers with the US Navy. On board the "Juno" travels

Michel Figuet of
23, as helmsman out.

July 6
Chicago, September 19. Jacques Vallee writes
in his diary: "A book that
just read with interest [...] raises the possibility that other
physical dimensions interact with our consciousness. Titled "A Woman Clothed with the
Sun"
This work of John Delaney is a summary of alleged apparitions of the Blessed
Virgin Mary [...]. The reports are extraordinary, very disturbing. One is
tempted to imagine that some kind of forces that continue to exist really, and
involved in, human affairs. "

Vallee, who now resides in the United States, prepares his doctorate in
Computing at the University of Northwestern while keeping a close
collaboration with astronomer J. Allen Hynek, scientific adviser to the Air Force
UFO matters since 1947. In spring has published the first book of Vallee
on the topic: "Anatomy of a phenomenon: unidentified objects in space - a scientific
appraisal ". Now is preparing a second book (" Challenge to Science - The UFO
Enigma ") in which, among other things, reflect his study of" ortotenias ":" The
analyzes performed simply establish that the proposed alignments,
most, if not all, must be attributed to chance alone. "

Island of Barbados, September 20. The HARP project is
operational since 1962 and the tests succeed. As explained Gerald Bull years later: "The
idea was to find out what happens in the atmosphere from sunset to sunrise.
Remember, nobody gave us subsidies. We had to get [data] atmospheric tropical weather for the Army
Research Office [US], that's how we were getting the money. We were trying to measure
all to the upper limit of the atmosphere, we set nominally two hundred kilometers. The cost of
each launch was about $ 5,000. We arrived to take up to eight in one night. Typically was
trying to get the data using three nights in a row. " Throughout the night of 20 to 21
carried out a series of releases "Martlet 2" with huge barrel of 16 inches. The shots
are made pointing to the east-southeast, toward the Atlantic, with an elevation
near vertical. Each "Martlet 2" -a particularly projectile design frees a load of
trimethyl aluminum (TMA) between 90 km and a maximum height of 140 km. The trimethyl-
aluminum ejected is a compound which reacts with the oxygen in the atmosphere
giving rise
to a phenomenon of chemiluminescence. That creates a trail visible at night it can be
photographed from various enclaves for wind information at different heights. In the first
moments, the stele resembles the straight white trail left by jets but deformed
by winds in the upper atmosphere, it acquires shapes. Finally, the
13 After about fifteen minutes, the trail longer visible.
From the neighboring island of Martinique -two hundred kilometers
northwest of Barbados-, numerous witnesses observed the wakes of the first two
14
shooting, shooting 19:30 and 20:53 local time on the islands. In
19:30 test the fact that trimethylaluminum is also freed occurs
down the stretch of the ballistic trajectory of the projectile and not only during its ascent
15
. Observers both Islanders are counted as crewmen "Juno," the "Daphne" and "Rhône", anchored in Fort-de-France in scale of 10 days.
Michel Figuet, witnessed the event, recalled: "The next day I called the meteorological
observatory and was told that it was not a balloon, or a meteor, or a plane or a rocket or
a satellite, but an object 16 Unidentified ".


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HARP
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BARBADOS: SOUND MEMORIES

The firing of the guns of HARP not generate UFO sightings in Barbados. There his memory
It has survived among older people, obviously as sound anecdotes.

The roar of the largest canyon, the caliber of 400 mm, could be heard over a wide area of ​​the island. It is said that even in the district of St. Joseph, about twenty miles away, one could see a slight tremor in
windows (1).
It is not surprising then that the vibrations have negative effects in crystals and even the walls of the
nearest district Christ Church (2) housing.


Stephen E. Mendes account:
"The huge cannon was heard
from most of the island ... and just a few miles away, the walls of our
house began to
crack by the blast. The SRC (8) had to take care of repairs and relocation
of those living
near the canyon ... but small cracks that had we never were met ... it was hard
prove that
they were due to the barrel. "(3)
For its part, the government of the island took no
responsibility for damage to homes, which made the project not
it was just very well seen
in certain sectors of the population. (4)

It is said that the remains of a projectile
fell into a pen of cows district of St. Philip (2). However,
only victims of the project
would have been for other reasons. A worker was crushed to death during landing tasks
parts of the barrel (5). On the other hand, some people attributed the cancer that took
the life of a young physicist Island to
high power radar used in following projectile (3).

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But there is a story that shows that mortality was not associated with the project so
worried some
Islanders but ... excessive birth.
In a political rally of the sixties,
Aberdeen Jones, candidate of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) in the district
Christ
Church, promised that if his party formed government would end the HARP project, which
blamed the
increase the birthrate. Some of the bullets were fired at night and early
morning. "Imagine a man
sleeping in bed and Catapum !, shoot the cannon. The first thing
you see when you wake up will be a pair of legs ... "(6)

What remains of the "super-
cannon" 400 mm rests in peace at two hundred yards from the end of the airport runway
Grantley Adams International, which was always. Try to look with Google Earth (7). Rust
and
vegetation have not yet covered at all.

REFERENCES:

(1)
http://www.barbadosforum.com/index.php?showtopic=5479&st=40
(2)
http://www.nationnews.com/story/cave-HARPing-on-the-past-copy-for-web
(3)
http://smendes.com/src.htm
(4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP
(5)
http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/07/21/barbados-author-angela-cole-talks-
about-gerald-bull-harp-and-the-claim-that-bulls-
assassin-was-recently-in-belize /
(6)
comment (11/4/2009) at: http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/we-missed-the-
anniversary-of-gerald-bulls-murder-
barbados-harp-supergun-once-reached-for-space-from-
our-island /
(7) Geographical coordinates: 13,07725º N / 59,47550º W.
(8) Please refer to
the SRI, the "Space Research Institute" at McGill University. The SRC of Gerald Bull
("Space Research Corporation") is
created when the HARP project stopped working.


The barrel
of 16 inches in a recent photo.
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Gerald Bull in 1965, when he led the HARP project in Barbados.



Family projectiles
"Martlet" HARP project.

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Examples
of luminous traces of trimethyl aluminum (TMA):

a) Estela on Barbados (HARP), released
from a projectile. In other examples rockets were used.
b) Estela about Alaska:.. images
taken from two different locations (left, right) in two successive moments
(Up and down).
c
and e) light trails on Poker Flat Research Range, Alaska.
d) White Sands Missile Range,
New Mexico (campaign launches Clemson University): the straight stroke
the left
corresponds to the downstream section of the path, the trail has not yet been deformed by
the winds.
f) Islands Wallops, Virginia (NASA experience).
Sources:
a) Murphy, Charles H. /
Bull, Gerald V .; AEROSPACE APPLICATION OF GUN AND ROCKETS LAUNCHED Projectiles (1967);
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD666746&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
b) Hargreaves, John
Keith; THE SOLAR-TERRESTRIAL ENVIRONMENT: AN INTRODUCTION TO GEOSPACE - THE SCIENCE OF
THE
TERRESTRIAL UPPER ATMOSPHERE, ionosphere, magnetosphere AND (Cambridge University
Press, 1992)
c) http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=443
d)
http://spirit.ee.psu.edu/spiritii/tma.html
e) in February 2007;
www.spaceweather.com/aurora/gallery_01feb07.htm
f) in June 2003;
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0630nightcloud.html

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Shape and
location of the shining path to las19h 34 '38' 'of 09.20.1965, according to the
HARP
project.

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Schematic reconstruction of the shining path as would be seen from
Fort-de-France to
las19h 34 '38' 'of 09.20.1965 (according to the HARP project).

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1975

In January, Jacques Vallee and Claude Poher present a statistical study
UFO sightings in
the 13th Aerospace Sciences Meeting of the Institute
American Aeronautics and Astronautics
(AIAA) held in Pasadena (California).
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Poher is a French engineer with a doctorate in
astrophysics that two years
then promote the creation of an official body Gallo for the
study of
18
"Unidentified aerospace phenomena" GEPAN, which will manage.

Figuet Michel
describes his observation from Martinique in the number of
May newsletter "Lumières dans
la Nuit" (# 145). Months before he had recounted in
19
elsewhere ("UFO-Informations", No.
6, AAMT), but this time specify a
time schedule:

20
"Information from the readers. On board
the submarine" Junon ", an evening of
September 1965 at 21:15.
"[...] We note, coming from
the west, from the direction of the Panama Canal, one
round object color and size of the
moon, moving slowly in the distance,
in southern horizon. He left behind a trail of great
width. Then, the object
He descended into the hills south describing two loops. Below
parked, forming a white halo around and saw two red traces underneath.
Suddenly, the
object disappeared, remaining only visible halo and
wake, for two more minutes.
"At 21:45,
the white halo appeared in the same place. It also appeared
object. It rose again making
the same journey to go in the same direction,
always with his wake, comparable to that of
the jets but wider. "

No one thought of going to look for a camera adds.



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« Reply #190 on: Apr 8th, 2015, 01:15am »

The case LDLN # 45 (May 1975)



The memories are not perfect: apart from the times are wrong,
phenomenon
was southeast of the island and not from the west. In Addition,
underlying
misinterpretations: making contrails deformed by winds
tall for the actual path of an
object and, on the other hand, assumed that the
phenomenon is repeated in reverse.
Michel
Figuet is no longer the sailor that sailed the seas of half the world to
Quick escort
aboard "Le Picard" and, later, the submarine "Junon" without any
interest in UFOs.
Returning to civilian life, devotes much of his time to 21
gather documentation on the subject. It is a "man of land" dedicated to investigate the matter personally.

The HARP
project had perished for lack of support and funding. Settled in
Quebec, near the border
with the US, and leading his own company, the Space
Research Corporation, Gerald Bull to
consulting, development and now devotes himself
selling weapons gunner. Your customers are
spread around the globe.



1984

In spring, the magazine "Lumières dans la nuit" returns to
the observation
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20/09/1965 Martinique of publishing a more detailed Michel Figuet
article.
This particular date and indicates now that the first phase of the phenomenon
occurred
19:30 to 19:35, while the second phase passed at 21:05
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21:10, a tighter schedule
to reality: "Just remember the length and time
about the phenomenon. The accuracies bring
to readers LDLN
just come to my attention through the work of literature search
made by the
chief engineer meteorologist Weather Service Antillas-
Guayana ".
Figuet still given to
the development of a comprehensive catalog
"Landings" French. In 1979 he had published a
documented and bulky
book on the subject: "UFO: The premier dossier of close encounters in
France".
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Keeps abreast Jacques Vallee of new information that shed
doubts about the
origin of the traces of the emblematic case of Trans-en-Provence from
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01.08.1981, the
GEPAN remains unexplained. Then start your own
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parallel investigation.

"Computer Message
Systems" (McGraw-Hill, New York) is published, Vallee,
privileged witness the birth of the
Internet by participating in the development of
its prototype, ARPANET. Also see the light
British, German and Swedish editions
in his book "The Network Revolution. Confessions of a
Computer Scientist" (edition
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American original: And / Or Press; Berkeley, 1982).
Vallee
directs his professional life to the financial district funds
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venture capital
investments in high technology companies.

Gerald Bull continues its activities, now set
at Brussels-capital
international business of weapons- since passed a few months in 1980
a
US prison.
Following a journalistic investigation, his company was accused of
violated the
1977 arms embargo against apartheid South Africa, given by
United Nations. The material
was re-issued from Spain on a vessel
supposedly on his way to Canada. The operation was at
least the
connivance of the CIA, who had given covert support to the South African
intervention

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in the Angolan civil war to counter the Cuban presence. Nevertheless,
or
...- precisely why, investigating officers of the Customs Service
American was not
beyond Bull. His sentence of one year in prison was scored
deeply and made it considered a
kind of scapegoat
US administration. On the other hand, was also sentenced for justice
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Canadian, who imposed a financial penalty.





Home of LDLN No. 237-238 (March-April 1984).


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______________________________________

MICHEL Figuet points out

Apart from
the time precisions Figuet article on "Lumières dans la nuit" (No. 237-238)
also includes
further details of the two phases of observation. Are summarized below.

New details:

First
stage:
The "luminous ball" came from an azimuth of 200 degrees, from the southwest [?],
And elevated 15.-
20 °, with reference to the observers in Fort-de-France. He moved in
horizontal path
up to an azimuth of 120 ° (direction Rivière-Salée and the Domaine de la
Pagerie), where
descended. The two full loops described as it descended made clockwise.
The
detention, about 7 lifts, lasted about 30 seconds.
The luminous trail was comparable
to white screen TV. He disappeared
progressively between 19:34 and 19:35.
The small
double, shooting red stele, under the ball, was observed with twins when the object
stopped, before forming the halo to 19:34.

Second phase:
After making the same changes
(including two loops) but in reverse direction, the
phenomenon away horizontally in a
southwesterly direction. The trail gradually disappeared.

In the article there is some
confusion about the azimuth assigned to the phenomenon. In a few
sometimes referred to as
the decline occurred at an azimuth of 120 ° is done. Moreover, the
Pagerie was
approximately south of observers and the canton of Rivière-Salée southeast.
Regarding the
figure included in the article shows an azimuth of about 155 ° (SSE approximately).
To
get an -a notion data from the period, the project HARP-, 4 minutes and 38
seconds after
shooting 19:30, the corresponding trail was visible from Fort-de-France in
around an
azimuth of about 125 ° and its highest point was about 20 degrees of elevation above the
horizon
(Recital 134 km altitude and distance from the observer of about 334 km). (1)

Inquiries:

Figuet assumed, wrongly, that the phenomenon was on the Martinique and for
Therefore, you must have observers south of the island located south of the path. Their
testimonies
help locate the position of the phenomenon. To this end he wrote a dozen
letters to mayors
south of the island, with no response.
Other observations:

The West
Indies and Guiana Weather Service advises Figuet other sightings from
Martinique on the
same dates.
The gendarmerie made another observation on 21 September 1965 at 02:15. It
was noted one
spherical shape of incandescent white, with white smoke in NNE zigzag path
that
abruptly disappeared.
The same phenomenon was observed on September 23 at 19:30.

It
can not be excluded that these observations were also related
"Martlet-2" HARP project. In
fact, shooting at 02:21 on 21 and 19:24 were performed, but
Day 22 (always local time) -
see list of releases
www.planet4589.org/space/lvdb/launch/Martlet, web astrophysicist
Jonathan McDowell (hours
indicated GMT) -.

Correcting other references:

Figuet fail to
point out that, contrary to showing the artistic recreation
published in No. 145,
"Lumières dans la Nuit", the phenomenon was not reflected in the sea.

It also belies some
of the things said in the two books that had already quoted his
testimony in the case.

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Figuet denies that have fallen to earth and that the phenomenon had surrounded the
post in
twice, as indicated by Charles Garreau in his book "Alerte dans le ciel: le
dossier des
enlèvements "(p 163;. Alain Lefeuvre, 1981).
Also notes that it is erroneous
description of the formation of the halo that had Jean
Prachan in his book "Le Triangle
des Bermudes: base secrète des UFO" (Pp 115-116;. Belfond, 1978).
Furthermore, "the west
of Martinique is not in the Bermuda Triangle" ...

REFERENCES:

(1) .- estimates from data
cited in:
Fagot, JA, Epler, WE, Howard, DE; UPPER ATMOSPHERE WINDS FROM GUN VERTICAL
LAUNCHED
PROBES (BARBADOS 21-22 JUNE 1967) (YUMA, 12 JUNE 1967), Final Report, Contract
BRL 169 (August 1968).


The case LDLN No. 237-238 (March-April 1984): illustrations of F.
Lagarde.

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In November, Michel Jacques
Vallee Figuet match in the "First
European Conference on Anomalous Aerial Phenomena ",
held in
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Brussels, five few kilometers from the apartment Gerald Bull. The congress
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is
sponsored by the SOBEPS, a Belgian private group for the study of the
UFO.
Vallee months
which has previously traveled to Brazil to investigate some
encounters with OVNI- Figuet
described as "a man full of energy, with a
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critical mind which has earned a reputation
of 'debunker' between
more enthusiastic "French researchers. Figuet, who now lives in
South
France says still clearly remember the details of his observation of 1965, as
passing
them to other witnesses with whom he had been talking, and confirms Vallee
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maneuvers and
appearance of the object being observed.
Figuet presented to Congress a presentation on a
topic that suits you
concerned, the development of criteria to isolate cases of UFO
sightings
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strongest, the best evidence.
A week later, Vallee visits the site of the
alleged landing of Trans-
en-Provence, in France, a case on which he disputes with Michel
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Figuet.



Michel Figuet (l.) And Jacques Vallee (r.) In Brussels at a conference organized
by the
SOBEPS 1988.


Bull has not given up his dream to build a "super" able to put
orbiting
satellites. For some time, looking for sources of inspiration in the little
known German designs of World War II, particularly in the
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infamous "barrel of Paris". He has written
a book on the subject,
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collaboration with his colleague Charles Murphy.
In 1985, Bull had tried to get the Department of Defense
I was interested in a project of intercontinental barrel, without success. Now he has traveled to
Iraq, which has just emerged from a long war with its neighbors and Iranians
won the support of Saddam Hussein. The Iraqis, who already have artillery
designed by Bull, are renewing their firepower and do not averse to
the possibility of becoming a "space power". Born the Babylon project.
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Nineteen ninety

In February, Michel Figuet founded the Serpan, a society dedicated to
the
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research "unidentified aerospace phenomena".

On March 22, Gerald Bull is killed when
he was about to enter his
Brussels apartment. The identity and motives of the murderers
will not reach
clarified. There is speculation pointing in different directions: Israel,
Iran, Iraq and
even the CIA itself.
Days earlier, had tried in Iraq "Baby Babylon" (a
cannon 45m
long and 350 mm caliber), prototype authentic "superguns" (150 m gauge
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1000
mm) goal of Babylon project.
After the death of Bull, are confiscated in Europe various
materials intended
the "superguns" Iraqis (manufactured in the UK, Spain, Germany,
Switzerland ...). Months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait and the Persian Gulf War begins.
Allied troops end up destroying much of what remained standing of
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project.
Charles
Murphy, partner Bull lifetime, making it the
sketch:.. "It was a brilliant engineer An
entrepreneur wanted to build things.
He wanted to do what others could not do. He wanted
to promise that he would do
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that, according to others, it could not be done. "


Jacques Vallee published the book "Confrontations", which reiterates its view
that the
"UFO phenomenon" has nothing to do with ships of extraterrestrial origin but
it is "a
physical manifestation of a form of consciousness alien to human
but able to coexist with
us on earth ".
In one of the chapters devoted to show that the UFO is an entity
with a
physical component-while window to another mode of reality used
example whale Michel
Figuet 1965:

"From an observation like this you can not just say that did not happen
or
that it was a hallucination. The witnesses were competent observers distributed
a large
area. They were trained for night surveillance tasks (Michel
Figuet had received
particularly high marks for its ability to
observation) and the sighting lasted long
enough for my informant rise
to the control tower, take the binoculars and spend the rest
of the staff.
Now if we agree that there was an object, as the facts
seem to show, then we
face as scientists, other
challenge. Specifically, if the object was ten miles away, as
estimated witnesses, we are talking about a hundred yards disk
diameter, a formidable
device, in view of the amazing maneuvers
performed. The complete sequence suggests control
and purpose.
Furthermore, it is possible to calculate the total energy emitted by the
object based on
estimates of distance and luminosity given by witnesses. A value is
obtained
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2.3 megawatts (MW). "

Although Vallee notes that the information is first hand,
having
Figuet interviewed less than two years ago, does not specify the date of the
observation (notes "the end of September 1965") and gives wrong time
(Onset at 21:15 and
return at 21:45, as in the first version to be
He reported the case ...).
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Three hundred people could see "a huge ball of light or a
disc vertical "explains Vallee-
who rushed to ground describing up
three loops "when he was just south of the ships".
However, the figure
accompanies the text shows a trajectory with only two loops -in line
with
Figuet- version located towards the SSE.
"Confrontations" also briefly referred to
the recent analysis commissioned
by Vallee of samples footprint case of Trans-en-Provence,
collected in
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time by the GEPAN:
"The lab found nothing unusual or differences between
the two samples
[To be collected from the surface and the other at a depth of about six
inches], although
to scanning electron microscopy and energy dispersive analysis used
This
new X-ray analysis allowed us to eliminate the possibility that products
chemical, cement
dust or other surface contaminants have affected
the plants. "
The results of the analysis
and conclusions of Vallee - exposing a
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article published this year in the journal
"Journal of Scientific Exploration" -,
will be heavily criticized by Michel Serpan Figuet,
which eventually attributing the
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alleged traces of landing marks caused by tires.

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Eight and a half years later, wonder how he could be so
incompetent
to ignore HARP launches from the island of Barbados.
From the island of "next",
so to speak.


The Internet
Optimists say that "everything" is on the Internet.
Before
closing these lines -15 April 2010-, I wanted to see if
If the keys are on the network,
accessible to everyone.
If you search, you can find detailed information about HARP
and
the shooting of "Martlet 2". Anyone can cross these data with the
sighting reported by
Michel Figuet to see clearly. But here comes the surprise. Yes Y
While observing
Martinique is mentioned in various websites (in
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French and English), I have only found
ONE indicating the date and
NO mention the correct time.
The version given by Jacques
Vallee in 1990-and returned in 1997 to campaign
freely through the network, while details
provided by Figuet in "Lumières dans
la Nuit "in 1984, are absent." Details "as the date
and time.







NOTES:

One
Not to be confused with HAARP, so dear to the conspiranoicos project,
which became operational in
1993 and has no relationship with Gerald Bull.

2
"A Brief
History of the HARP Project" (Richard K. Graf) in
www.astronautix.com/articles/abroject.htm.
Input "Gerald Bull" Wikipedia, citing the book
"Wilderness of Mirrors" by Dale Grant (1991,
Prentice-Hall). See also:
http://angelacole.caribusiness.com/Home/about--angela-cole/the-paris-airshow/overpaid-
Bajans / extracts / gerald-bull
Three
Quoted in
http://www.jacquesvallee.net/le_sub_espace_mass.html

4
"Forbidden Science: Journals 1957-
1969" (Jacques Vallee), North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, 1992.


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5
Ibid footnote 4.

6
The
French name "Vallée" lose the accent to function in an Anglo-Saxon means ...

7
Ibid
footnote 4.

8
"Challenge to Science - The UFO Enigma" (Vallee, Jacques and Janine), Henry
Regnery Co., Chicago,
1966.

9
"High Altitude Research Project"; see http://www-
istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Mmartlet.htm

10
Input "Gerald Bull" Wikipedia, citing the book
"Wilderness of Mirrors" by Dale Grant (1991,
Prentice-Hall).

11
On the night of 22 to 23
Similar experiences were made.
12
Azimuth of 119º (counting from the north clockwise).
13
On
"Martlets" HARP project launched Barbados is available pretty
information, including a
number of technical reports.
In www.astronautix.com/lvs/martlet.htm there is an article
about the family of missiles "Martlet" and
in www.astronautix.com/articles/abroject.htm a
brief history of the project.
You can find a list of the releases from Barbados on the
"Launch Vehicle Database" of
astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell
(www.planet4589.org/space/lvdb/launch/Martlet).
At least one specific report on releases
from 20 to 23 September 1965, but
is not accessible on the Internet:
- Fuller, R. N .;
UPPER ATMOSPHERE WINDS LAUNCHED FROM GUN VERTICAL PROBES (BARBADOS, 20-
23 SEPTEMBER
1965), Report No. 2, BRL Contract 169, February l966. I not consulted. Summary
Available
in: http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=AD0662203
(It should be noted that, as in some other reference period, the approximate coordinates
Barbados station contains a rabbit, to indicate 57.5 ° W / 13.10º N instead of 59.5 ° W
/
13.10º N).
Another certainly not accessible report will contain relevant information is:
-
Luckert, H. J .; NOVEMBER 1965 REPORT OF THE PROJECT SERIES TEST FIRING HARP.
Summary:
www.stormingmedia.us/44/4476/0447666.html.
However, fortunately, can be found online other
contemporary reports that
include enough information. For example, following two
references:
- Murphy, Charles H. / Bull, Gerald V .; AEROSPACE APPLICATION OF GUN AND
LAUNCHED Projectiles
ROCKETS (1967). Available at: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-
bin / GetTRDoc?
AD = AD666746 & Location = U2 & doc = GetTRDoc.pdf. See in particular section 7.2 and
corresponding figures.
- Fagot, J. A., Epler, W. E., Howard, D. E .; UPPER ATMOSPHERE
WINDS FROM GUN VERTICAL LAUNCHED
PROBES (BARBADOS 21-22 JUNE 1967) (YUMA, 12 JUNE 1967),
Final Report, Contract BRL 169, August
1968. Found in http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-
bin /
GetTRDoc? AD = AD676860 & Location = U2 & doc = GetTRDoc.pdf.

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Ie 23:30 GMT on September
20 and 00:52 GMT the following day. Local
the islands were AST (Atlantic Standard Time).
The "Martlets" were fired from a location to
about 240 km from Fort de France and its
trajectory them away from Martinique. The stelae were maintained at
distances of the order
of magnitude.
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The report UPPER ATMOSPHERE WINDS LAUNCHED FROM GUN VERTICAL PROBES
(BARBADOS 21-22
JUNE 1967) (YUMA, 12 JUNE 1967), Final Report, Contract BRL 169 (August
1968) includes "ground
plots "Wake (the projection of it on a map at any given time) from
ALL
testing where TMA ejection continued for a down slope. But the only "ground

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plot
"September 1965 which reproduces the report is for the launch of the
19:30 AST day 20,
showing the location of the wake to 278 seconds of liftoff. This is the
release related to
the first observation of Figuet. As indicated in the report shows
others "Martlets" fired
that night only released during trimethylaluminum
upward trajectory.
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« Reply #193 on: Apr 8th, 2015, 10:33am »

Sys,
A lot of material there in those long multiple posts, but it's in a difficult to read (and understand) format....at least the way it's presented.
Can you give a paragraph or two summary of what you believe is important about these multiple posts you made.
How does this specifically relate to the ufo phenom, the subterfuge ala the mirage men and also Dr Vallee.?
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« Reply #194 on: Apr 9th, 2015, 11:07pm »

Thanks, Sys. It's interesting that Vallee had knowledge of circumstances that provided potential explanations while he opted to frame the story in what we might call a less skeptical manner.

BTW, I'd imagine you noticed the mention of McGill (home of MKULTRA Subproject 68 and Ewen Cameron during the exact time frame in question) and its participation in the military project involving aerial phenomena. It's for those very reasons that students continue today to demonstrate against McGill's relationship with the military, which includes drone contracts and several ventures into weapons R&D of varying classifications. Interested parties can learn more via Demilitarize McGill.

Some might also find it of interest that Dr. Vallee's attention to detail was recently called into question by Jason Colavito. He discovered that Vallee and co-author Chris Aubeck apparently relied upon translations (French, ironically) provided by previous researchers, rather than checking the text themselves, while recounting a story for their 2009 book, 'Wonders in the Sky'. Colavito interpreted the authors to have presented a bad translation from a secondary source, attributed to the wrong book, and by doing so obscured the primary sources and a more plausible explanation. Learn more at:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/the-alleged-pillar-of-fire-in-the-sky-before-the-battle-of-lepano-in-1571

Once again reminds us to always check the facts and sources.
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