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« Reply #105 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 12:44pm »

on Jun 15th, 2008, 2:39pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
And your point is what? That we should be the only ones to be above the frayhuh Every, and I mean Every clandestine government agency like our CIA is doing this and much worse. Its an unfortunate necessity. Without having the ability to act in a covert way, we put ourselves at risk. Others will and have taken advantage of our CIA being gutted and NOT alowing them to share information vital to our security with other agencies. I don't like it, but I understand it.
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I understand it very well too. But what I don't understand, is why all the bullsh%t about democracy, freedom, human rights and so on? I understand that the US is the major power in the world. I understand all the paranoia that justifies some of horrible things the US government did and continues doing. What I don't understand, is why American people still willingly pay trillions of dollars to these monsters and continue to feel good about it. Why all the crap about compassionate and free nation coming out of your president's mouth? Why this fake joke you all know as fair elections?

You guys act exactly like the USSR did. And something tells me your are going to end up that way too! Or worse.
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« Reply #106 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 1:52pm »

From your use of "You Guys" I gather your not a US citizen. My gut tells me your Canadian,not sure, If thats the case, you might want to take a real good look at your RCMP. They have a wing very much like MI5, and the CIA. If you think they are any differant, I'm here to tell you your missinformed, Like I said before, every and I mean every government has its own CIA and regardless of what you believe they do exactly the same job in the same manner.
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« Reply #107 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 2:01pm »

on Jun 17th, 2008, 1:52pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
From your use of "You Guys" I gather your not a US citizen. My gut tells me your Canadian,not sure, If thats the case, you might want to take a real good look at your RCMP. They have a wing very much like MI5, and the CIA. If you think they are any differant, I'm here to tell you your missinformed, Like I said before, every and I mean every government has its own CIA and regardless of what you believe they do exactly the same job in the same manner.


Yes they do, it is called the CSIS, Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
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« Reply #108 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 2:24pm »

Thank you, I could not remember what it was called.

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« Reply #109 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 2:47pm »

on Jun 17th, 2008, 1:52pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
From your use of "You Guys" I gather your not a US citizen. My gut tells me your Canadian,not sure, If thats the case, you might want to take a real good look at your RCMP. They have a wing very much like MI5, and the CIA. If you think they are any differant, I'm here to tell you your missinformed, Like I said before, every and I mean every government has its own CIA and regardless of what you believe they do exactly the same job in the same manner.


You are correct, I am not a US citizen. But I am not Canadian either. In fact I was born in the Soviet Union and lived there for a long time. Now I live in the US. And like I said earlier, I agree with what you saying. Everyone is considering their own interests only. CIA, MI5, MOSSAD, FSB - they are all the same. Achieve power by any means necessary. And I even agree to some extent that it is the right way of doing things in our savage world.

I've lived in the USSR and I've lived in the US for some time now too. Man, it is astonishing how many similarities I see between the two. Freedom, compassion, for the good of the world... I've heard all of it before. Americans for some reason think Soviet people were all crazy lunatics who went to bed every night thinking of world domination. No, we also thought that what our country was doing was the right thing to do. The society had its rules and people were following those rules not because they were oppressed, but because, just like here, people obeyed the law and though bad of people who didn't.

Freedom of speech. Yes there were things you were not supposed to talk about. The same here. I can tell you so many taboos here that if you start talking about them in public, you'd get in trouble pretty soon.

Communism is just social structure (never achieved by any state ever by the way). If this country is so free, why the heck I can't start a communist party here? Because the law says so. It was exactly the same thing in th USSR. You were supposed to hate capitalism and if you didn't you were a traitor and a bad person.

What is sad, is that the majority of Americans still think that starting a war, that some say took more than a million lives, has made the world a better place somehow or made them secure. The major argument against the war in Iraq was always about the American soldiers who die there. Rearly about Iraqi people. They all say, stop the war, we don't want OUR children to die. No one cares if Iraqi children die because they are not children, they are terrorists. The stupid Hollywood brainwashing made everyone sure that if an American kills someone abroad (especially someone with Russian or Arab accent) that it was the right and humane thing to do for the good of the world.

And, LGM, I don't think we contradict each other. I agree with what you are saying. The contradiction really is between what you are saying and what your government is saying. The contradiction is between how America acts and how America perceives its actions. That's a path to self distraction.
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« Reply #110 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 3:09pm »

I stand completely corrected. Alexi, I was taking the long way around the barn, as we say. I'm a known curmudgeon here so take what I write with a whole bunch of salt. I get a bit upset because so many bash the US. We are slowly loosing our rights ,but ,we still have much more than alot of places. They still have the right to post all they're opinions without a KGB type knocking on they're doors in the middle of the night to introduce them to the 'thought police'! It may happen here someday and that will be too horrible to think for me. I fight back in any way I can. Most others do also in they're own way.

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« Reply #111 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 3:17pm »

on Jun 17th, 2008, 2:47pm, alexIzm wrote:
I've lived in the USSR and I've lived in the US for some time now too. Man, it is astonishing how many similarities I see between the two. Freedom, compassion, for the good of the world... I've heard all of it before. Americans for some reason think Soviet people were all crazy lunatics who went to bed every night thinking of world domination.


Privit, Alex. Kak de La? smiley Greetings from the beautiful State of Oregon. Yes, it was my Russian sister friend who taught me those Russian words. As I met her and got to know her better she opened up to me and I began to realize we do have many similarities, as you mentioned. I think that's the trouble with the world now. We focus on all the differences between us instead of the similarities we have between us.

We're all human beings, and it took me some time until I reached adulthood to realize most of us have the same wants and needs no matter what country you come from:Freedom, compassion, the good of the world, to love and be loved by our fellow man.

If we all had a chance to meet civilians in other countries, we'd find out that many of them are just like us with the same wants and needs and desire to live in a better world.

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« Reply #112 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 3:26pm »

on Jun 17th, 2008, 3:09pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
I stand completely corrected. Alexi, I was taking the long way around the barn, as we say. I'm a known curmudgeon here so take what I write with a whole bunch of salt. I get a bit upset because so many bash the US. We are slowly loosing our rights ,but ,we still have much more than alot of places. They still have the right to post all they're opinions without a KGB type knocking on they're doors in the middle of the night to introduce them to the 'thought police'! It may happen here someday and that will be too horrible to think for me. I fight back in any way I can. Most others do also in they're own way.

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Alexander actuallysmiley

I agree, this is a great country. I mean it. I live here after all. on the personal level, I can't really complain. I have everything I want and all I have to do is to sit in the office for 8 hours a day to get it. Race and gender issues (reversed here as oppose to some other places) exist pretty much only in the media.

I'm just so frustrated sometimes. And not so much about what's going on, but about how that is promoted and perceived. It's like when you are walking down the street and see a pile of dog crap on the ground. There is noting unnatural about it. On the other hand, if someone is to take this pile and wrap it in a nice shiny package, then give it to you and say that it is the best brand of French chocolate and you should eat it. And what is sad, that many people in this county really do eat that crap. But on the other hand, there many who don't.

By the way, I can think of a couple of topics, which if you start posting about them, will bring you to the attention of the CIA kind. You might even get a knock on the door. All they have to do is to label you as a "threat to national security" afterwards. In USSR the label was "an enemy of the nation".
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« Reply #113 on: Jun 17th, 2008, 3:30pm »

on Jun 17th, 2008, 3:17pm, Ashiana24 wrote:
Privit, Alex. Kak de La? smiley Greetings from the beautiful State of Oregon. Yes, it was my Russian sister friend who taught me those Russian words. As I met her and got to know her better she opened up to me and I began to realize we do have many similarities, as you mentioned. I think that's the trouble with the world now. We focus on all the differences between us instead of the similarities we have between us.

We're all human beings, and it took me some time until I reached adulthood to realize most of us have the same wants and needs no matter what country you come from:Freedom, compassion, the good of the world, to love and be loved by our fellow man.

If we all had a chance to meet civilians in other countries, we'd find out that many of them are just like us with the same wants and needs and desire to live in a better world.

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You are exactly right!
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« Reply #114 on: Jul 5th, 2008, 1:24pm »


Why not bashing the US, when they repress others for decades and enforcing them there rules. “We are slowly loosing our rights, but, we still have much more than allot of places”
And someday you will be without any rights. They can arrest you, hold you in prison, torture you, surveill you house, calls … without any proper evidence. And you don’t live better then allot of places.Guverment is poisoning you for decades with useless vaccinations,
http://www.mmdnewswire.com/food-poisoning-you-are-eating-californias-dead-pets-2319.html food poisoning, http://www.naturalnews.com/021745.html chemical warfare dumped in oceans … http://www.mbari.org/news/homepage/2008/chemweapons.html
And the list is huge.
The only important value in USA is money. Most people live in cheap wooden houses, eating
cheap poisoned food, drinking poisoned bottled water”.
You are domesticated by your government.

And who is the government?Bush? NO! Carlyle Group! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/31/september11.usa4 They decided about WTC, war in Iraq … and they are deciding who is going to be a president.


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« Reply #115 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 1:36pm »

I met a guy at hunting camp about 3-4 years ago. He was standing across the street when the missle hit. He told me that there was no engine noise at all. Just a swish, then the missle hit the pentagon.
What I got a kick out of the other day was this:
In the morning the official version was as the wings went through re pentagon it knocked down support beams. Then at night another "official version" said that wings got blown off when the wings hit the outside of the pentagon. Two official versions were completely different!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #116 on: Apr 30th, 2009, 8:32pm »

It is more than obvious that the U.S. Government had their hands in this, it's truly disturbing and very sad.
People are starting to wake up.
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« Reply #117 on: Jun 16th, 2009, 1:17pm »

shocked To get the whole picture get Jim Marrs book, The Teror conspiracy, This is the most devestating book on the coverup by no t this country but the world wide conspiracy ever to hit the market
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« Reply #118 on: Jun 16th, 2009, 5:55pm »

Angel,

I was unable to bring up the first link, but I have watched the second, and it proves what I've known from the beginning. 9/11 was not a terrorist attack,
nor were the planes that crashed into the buildings responsible for the complete failure and utter destruction of the buildings. They were imploded. No plane ever crashed into the Pentagon at all. That was the result of an explosion as well.

Excellent video with irrefutable evidence and documentation.

As I said, I knew all this to be so... its nice to see some "proof" of it, even if it is a horror to have to face up to a far uglier and more cold-blooded truth than that the U.S. was under attack by terrorists from foreign soil.

I might add that those responsible achieved their objective.
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