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« Reply #120 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 02:11am »

on Jun 16th, 2009, 5:55pm, Seeker wrote:
Angel,

I was unable to bring up the first link, but I have watched the second, and it proves what I've known from the beginning. 9/11 was not a terrorist attack,
nor were the planes that crashed into the buildings responsible for the complete failure and utter destruction of the buildings. They were imploded. No plane ever crashed into the Pentagon at all. That was the result of an explosion as well.

Excellent video with irrefutable evidence and documentation.

As I said, I knew all this to be so... its nice to see some "proof" of it, even if it is a horror to have to face up to a far uglier and more cold-blooded truth than that the U.S. was under attack by terrorists from foreign soil.

I might add that those responsible achieved their objective.


Hello Seeker,

Sorry I'm so late to responde, sure this is hell for
the NewYork people, we know that from asbest
they will get cancer, and die cry
This is even wurse then Chernobil Russia with those
kern reactors. undecided I call the bush administation..
mass morders on a first degree, and who is gonna
jugde them?? Politics are wurse and dirty then I ever
thought. undecided
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« Reply #121 on: Jul 17th, 2009, 12:14pm »

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I call the bush administation..
mass morders on a first degree, and who is gonna
jugde them?? Politics are wurse and dirty then I ever
thought.


Get used to it, we live in a xxxxed up time.
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« Reply #122 on: Jul 25th, 2009, 09:48am »

In case anyone is interested.. here is a link to a scientific paper written on the experiments performed on some debris found from 9/11. It gets pretty technical, but you can gather what the point is by reading the abstract and the conclusion.

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
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« Reply #123 on: Sep 13th, 2009, 2:18pm »

Allow me to introduce myself. I am an internationally known psychic and my autobiography and my psychic experiences are included in my latest book,"Other Dimensions",[available from Barnes and Noble and Amazon].
I also worked as an investigator for the New York City Comptroller's Office for 29 years. My present wife and I used to eat breakfast during work days in the restaurants on the ground floor of the World Trade Center. Sometimes I had to go to the upper floors of the World Trade Center building to receive or to deliver documents. Whenever I would go to the higher floors I was very psychically nervous and I felt that these World Trade Center buildings were not constructed of solid materials and I felt very insecure until I exited the building. Whenever I went to the higher floors of the Empire State building, I felt very secure and that this building was built solid.
Let us now deal with what I believe is the most deadly conspiracy of all times. First, let us think with the mind of an Arab. A western person usually thinks in short-term results and plans accordingly. But an Arab thinks ahead for many years and bases his thinking and strategies accordingly.
Osama is an engineer who is very educated and knowledgeable regarding the composition of structures and materials involved. He did not choose the Empire State building for the 9/11 attack because he knew that it was built correctly and a plane crash would cause minimal damage to the structure. He also knew that the World Trade Center buildings were constructed of highly inflammable materials if they would be subjected to a high octane fuel fire. The World Trade Center buildings burned like kindling wood after the passenger jets crashed into them. I believe they should have been an investigation of the architects and builders and planners and inspectors of the World Trade Center buildings to hold them liable for the deaths of thousands of people!

But this is only a small part of the bigger conspiracy. Osama in order to convert the world to the Moslem religion had to gain control not only of the governments of this world but also of the monetary systems and economics of the major world countries. Look at the history of major disasters in our times, including the 9/11 disaster. Certain Arab investors made fortunes of money by having advance notice of these major disasters which affected the stock markets.
Nostradamus predicted that the third and most terrible anti-Christ will be living in our modern times. I believe that this third antichrist is Osama and that our president Obama is his tool. If Obama can weaken our country by plunging us into a major depression and major debt then this will weaken our economy and open the floodgates to Moslem influence.
At the present time our national debt is $9 trillion and Obama is continuing to increase national debt by borrowing money from countries like China and by giving huge incentive loans to big corporations and banks.
I hope that the CIA is aware of this as this is a violation of our national security and the security of the United States people.

What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #124 on: Sep 27th, 2009, 11:15am »

...Allow me to introduce myself. I am an internationally known psychic..

So why didn't you see it coming ?

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« Reply #125 on: Sep 27th, 2009, 2:58pm »

on Sep 27th, 2009, 11:15am, ava wrote:
...Allow me to introduce myself. I am an internationally known psychic..

So why didn't you see it coming ?

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In defense of TimeTraveler, allow me to explain what it means to be psychic. A psychic picks up vibrations around him or her and tunes into energies swirling about in the ethers. They do not ... COULD not!.... pick up on every single thing. To do so would drive them mad and allow them no life of their own! Just because one is adept at picking up events psychically does not mean he or see would necessarily pick up on this particular one. In addition, sometimes psychics DO get
'hits" on something their conscious mind rejects and will not allow through. Sometimes it's because it's about a loved one and they don't want to believe/see/receive what they are picking up on... sometimes it's just too horrendous to contemplate and they can't and won't allow themselves to go there. Either way, psychics aren't infallible, and "not seeing it coming" in no way invalidates TimeTraveler's views, thoughts and insights about the tragedy the U.S. (in cooperation with the power elite that hold the true power behind the world goverment) purpetrated on its innocent citizens to achieve and end goal. That goal was achieved in three stages: first fear, then shock, and finally brain-washing that resulted in the voluntary giving up of civil rights granted (and up until now honored and held up by) the Constitution, and more importantly, The Bill of Rights.
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« Reply #126 on: Sep 28th, 2009, 12:19pm »

Thank you Seeker for explaining that psychics cannot be constantly "turned on"or they would go insane. Imagine if I was able to recall all of my 40 or 50 Earth past lives incarnations simultaneously I would be a basket case. I did mention to certain friends several years before the 9/11 disaster that the twin Towers were not safe or well constructed and that they had a bad vibration. Allow me to share with you an e-mail which I wrote recently to a friend. Consider the greater implications involved:

"Andre, I am very concerned about the current state of affairs in the world. I do not focus on the local problems of this country only as I do believe that there is a global conspiracy that affects the entire world. I believe that this master plan was constructed about 30 years ago and I believe that Osama is the architect. We have already discussed in e-mails that in order for Osama to control this world and to enforce a Moslem type dictatorship he needs to perform several functions.
1. He needs to control or influence the major countries. It is already doing this in the United States by using Obama as his Moslem tool.
2. He needs to control or manipulate the stock markets and consequently the monetary system of the world. He is doing this because he has an unlimited money supply from certain banks in Saudi Arabia and he uses money as leverage to control and manipulate the banking system and worldwide giant corporations. An example of this is the twin towers disaster. Certain Moslem Arab investors were informed prior to this attack to buy and sell stocks that would be affected by that terrorist attack. As a result billions of dollars were profited by these Arab investors.
3. To take control of countries it is necessary to literally take the country away from the people by nationalizing its companies and assets and by passing laws to limit the rights of the people and to divest them of their constitutional rights to protest or to demonstrate or to revolt. This is being done now in the United States and the press is being used as an opiate and a tranquilizer to distract the people of this country from the dangers of our present dictatorial government. The favorite ploy of a president such as George Bush and the current president is to create an artificial state of national emergency, such as a war, which gives the president the right and the power to control the people and the direction of this country regarding policy and foreign affairs. The press has been manipulated by George Bush and now it is being manipulated by Obama. The American people are like sheep. They follow and believe blindly what the press tells them. The next step that Obama will probaly do is to censor the Internet because it is not presently under government control.
4. Osama is a very dangerous and intelligent adversary and he is using our own Constitution and system of government against us. Several presidents ago it was realized that the Constitution should be revised to be a greater protection for the people of the United States in the modern times. A committee of lawyers was formed to investigate the Constitution and to make recommendations for changes and revisions. But this committee was disbanded and nothing was ever done. We are basically a stupid country who trusts and believes in our system of government. We are now in a crisis wherein our government does not reflect or consider the rights and freedoms of the people of the United States. This is not a government of the people and the people have no say in how this government is run. In the name of God, let the people of this country wake up and take back our own country from this oppressive government! Amen."

What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #127 on: Oct 23rd, 2010, 11:47am »

A person has to be completely brainwashed if they think Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11.
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« Reply #128 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 2:18pm »

on Jun 17th, 2009, 02:11am, AngelWynton wrote:
Hello Seeker,

Sorry I'm so late to responde, sure this is hell for
the NewYork people, we know that from asbest
they will get cancer, and die cry
This is even wurse then Chernobil Russia with those
kern reactors. undecided I call the bush administation..
mass morders on a first degree, and who is gonna
jugde them?? Politics are wurse and dirty then I ever
thought. undecided


Far worse than Chernobyl maybe, as there seems to be some anomalies regarding toxicity at that site:

http://animal.discovery.com/news/afp/20060417/chernobyl.html

Everybody knows that something is wrong with the official version of 911. Where one goes south is when they think they know exactly what it is that's wrong.

Keep in mind that when the truth was finally known about Pearl Harbor, all it turned out to be was that the American Ambassador To Japan had heard some rumor at a dinner party in Tokyo, about a year before the attack. Hardly a smoking gun.
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« Reply #129 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 2:28pm »

on Oct 23rd, 2010, 11:47am, Jose Chung wrote:
A person has to be completely brainwashed if they think Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11.


I wouldn't remove it from the list of possibilities. Remember that he was on the payroll for a very long time. The first time Americans ever heard of him was Ollie North's testimony in the Iran-Contra Hearings.

On the other hand, these folks usually rush to take credit for an act they committed. Osama only stated to give thanks to those responsible.

I highly doubt that the American Government was directly responsible. Instead, I would say they were totally derelict in their duties, as they had full knowledge of the plot, knew of some of the perpetrators taking multiple engine jet flying lessons, and managed to lose complete track of them during August of 2001. Too many donuts?
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« Reply #130 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 2:40pm »

Has anybody seen this material?

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/defense/index.html

I think all should find that highly interesting. Especially when at 1850 mph, a F-15 could cover the entire east coast in an hour. And at 1200 mph, the F-16 wouldn't take much longer.

If that's not bad enough? A friend of mine is a former USAF pilot. He states that you have to add at least A FULL MACH to get the true speed of American fighters, as opposed to the official speed. Yes, he's very honest, and not given to grandiose tendencies.

But the worst part of the material for NORAD, is how ALL of their best equipment for detecting things like this JUST HAPPENED TO BE TURNED OFF ON 9-11!

As a former resident of the DC area, I find it amazing the SAMs didn't go off (don't be believing that idiotic story about protecting our nation's capitol with Stinger Missiles from the rooftops. Unless you're daft of course).

What really happened? Don't ask me. I have no answers. Just interesting information.

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« Reply #131 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 2:59pm »

timetraveler;

Your points well taken and duly noted, except you totally fail in a couple of key points about procedure in American Government. A state of emergency/war only gives the POTUS free reign for 90 days. It's called the War Powers Act. Remember that one?

Now there is a little known provision under the Economic Emergency Act which would accomplish far more than all of this. So long as the president could get the military to go along, he would be dictator. But I have a hunch that unless the reason was good, the military would split and civil war would ensue.

Now. I too have deep concerns about current events. All the way back to 1978 actually. But they involve Iran, Islam, Israel, North Korea, and China. Not bin Laden.

I firmly believe that there is a nasty war coming. If America were to resolve to remain strong, I doubt it would happen as these factions usually only strike when the opposing side is weak. But the liberal side of the fence has been striving mightily to disarm America for a very long time. We are but a shadow of where we should be.

It's a sad state of affairs that humanity still has to rely on some nation to play the part of global cop. We should be so far beyond this by now ............... unfortunately, the UN is still but a concept. Often used to manipulate far more than seek peace.

This time when I say take care, I mean it in spades and then some.
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« Reply #132 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 4:04pm »

Icepick.

....It's a sad state of affairs that humanity still has to rely on some nation to play the part of global cop. We should be so far beyond this by now...

But the US isn't playing global cop.
Let's take Iraq. The pretexts were WMD and regime change to free the Iraqi people from an oppressive dictator.

Firstly there were no MWD. Virtually everybody knew this at the time, but Blix was pulled out before he had absolute proof. Why let facts get in the way of a good invasion.
Secondly. if you want to get rid of a dictator you use a small band of special forces people, you don't attack the country, wreck its infrastructure, flood it with your own currency and create civil war situation between the existing religious parties.

Unless. of course, you have some other motive for being there.

As for the cop aspect. why is Afganistan allowed to carry on growing poppies when the place is crawling with coalition soldiers ? why not just spray the lot and stop one of the worlds main sources of narcotics ?

Surely a good cop would see that.
Unless he was on the take.

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« Reply #133 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 5:48pm »

Points well taken HAL9000. Much of what America is currently doing seems to make little sense.

But first allow me to point out that America never entered into this one as a global cop. A nasty attack had happened on American soil, remember? Nobody on the planet didn't think there wouldn't be a response. The Iraq bit got caught up in the middle of this, and I believe it would have happened anyway. I will explain.

I find it interesting that you mentioned the WMDs. There is some shenanigans there, but I don't think in the way you are seeing it. Ever been in the military? If you have, then you know that the troops were indeed looking for something. And they didn't stop looking after it was admitted that the WMDs probably didn't exist(actually, Saddam admitted to playing along with that scenario because he feared Iran). But whether or not the masquerade was being played does not matter, because I firmly believe what we sought was not WMDs.

After I say that, do I know what we were looking for? No. I do believe we found it though. Somewhere underground, where we were obviously looking.

Do I think the search justified anything? I don't know. If I knew what it was we were after, I might be able to address that.

But we were looking for something. And like I said, we probably found it. It's easy to figure when too. Remember when everything shifted from let's prepare the Iraqis to let's get the heck out? Right before that. Somewhere in 2007 I think. Before you say anything, let me say I've taken heat for this theory before. But something just tells me it's correct, strong enough that I can't let it go. And no, this isn't to justify anything, but to set the record to what I believe is correct. Remember, if this was a clear cut, understandable reason, don't you think it would have been brought out in the open? No, I think this was something that needed hid at all costs. Whether it would have incriminated the government, or whether it would have terrified the public, or otherwise, are things I don't know. I think I stated I'm disturbed by current events. This, or the secrecy surrounding it, is definitely among the disturbing events.

Afghanistan? America is no longer in control of that one. And it became a sham the minute Pakistan refused access to their province where bin Laden allegedly (if he does) resides, then refused to enter that area themselves. Something fishy there. And there is also something that's been making world powers nervous there too. The (unknown) status of Pakistan's 30 some odd nukes. Sad. I thought we had turned the corner on those things when Reagan & Gorbachev initiated START.

I'm going to drop this right here because I have a feeling we probably don't see eye to eye on the subject. And I also know that things are way, way more involved than either you or I realize. Who is right and who is wrong we will probably never know. All we can really do is step back and pray that the people who are supposed to know what they are doing really do.

BTW: if you will look at this from a perspective other than America screwed up? You will notice that there are historical equivalents to today ................ unfortunately they are not good. And I'm not trying to be contrary here. This all fits too neatly into a scenario that's been bothering me a long, long time. One I would like to deliver a warning about. But what warning? Beyond the obvious, I don't know. Yet.

Take care
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« Reply #134 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 5:51pm »

Before long people will know me as being nothing but somber on these subjects. That's unfortunate, I'm really not like that. Usually. Just about this. I wish everybody would just get along.
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