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« Reply #135 on: Oct 28th, 2010, 08:19am »

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Were probably not as far apart as you think. But I'll respect your wish not to pursue the issue. After all, it is a ufo site, not a general government policy conspiracy rant.

If you would ever like to expand on your theory off what they were looking for then I would be interested to hear it.

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« Reply #136 on: Feb 10th, 2011, 08:12am »

Here is some food for thought since America is in the Process of becoming a Banana Republic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtQRYEDhS0Y
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xx Re: Reopen 911 Conspiracy about the Twin Towers 20
« Reply #137 on: Sep 1st, 2011, 5:17pm »

Not sure if this has been posted in other threads

There is an international 9/11 hearing taking place next week in Toronto, Canada and there will be live coverage.

http://torontohearings.org/
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« Reply #138 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 1:16pm »

If your interested, you should listen to Cause of Death by Immortal Technique. It is NOT safe for little kids, but its about the 9/11 conspiracy and it raises some good points.
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« Reply #139 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 1:37pm »

Do the 9/11 conspiracy theorist`s here imply that the whole 9/11 event was an absolute conspiracy including the other events that unfolded on that day?
Or possibly just the actual twin tower collapse etc, ie the controlled demolition theory? Do you all really believe the whole events were all inter-linked in one conspiracy, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #140 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 3:56pm »

I believe that all 4 planes were an inside job, and that the government lied when they said they killed Osama.
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xx Re: Reopen 911 Conspiracy about the Twin Towers 20
« Reply #141 on: Jun 30th, 2012, 5:10pm »

An inside job to what insight exactly, could you explain a little further, Bin Laden is dead it took them ten years but his corpse is now lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere, don`t ask me where!
The key chief operative of the whole 9/11 events, Pakistan military knew where he was all along, inside moles, that`s why the US had to work this one on their own, they knew once they had him in their sights they couldn`t risk the hit being blown, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #142 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 02:47am »

How can this be a conspirecy jet fuel burns at 2000 degrees much hotter than needed to melt steel. Estimated weight of 43 floors 144,000 tons compressed the floors below iniatial fall was five floor drop the damaged floors. It was 2 aircraft with engines and landing gear in the street on buildings.
Ive heard explosives set for semo-charges lets see about that about 17000 pounds of explosives it would take all 101 floors have to have concrete bored from support columes 600 major columes. Every floor needs support columes exposed to steel. All this done on the most secure Hi rise building on earth since 1991 bombing. How can that be done from the inside job without being seen on any camera in the building before 9/11.
I find this insulting to the people that lost loved ones in this tragedy and the aircraft.
You only hear one side and refuse to hear the other side that makes it highy infesible to have happened by missle on a aircraft, one problem with that how did the highjacker get enough building destroying explosives on board an aircraft when videos show most had no carry on baggage. How did they know thwey could get away with the highjacking and have time to rig the plane when they didnt leave the cockpit.

Please dont bother something thats been proven many times.
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« Reply #143 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 02:52am »

on Jun 29th, 2012, 3:56pm, freakshow (USA) wrote:
I believe that all 4 planes were an inside job, and that the government lied when they said they killed Osama.


All the planes were from outlaying commuter and conecting flights no way that could happen. They might have help on one or two but not 4. The security pre 9/11 was rather lax not like it is now. This was planed for 10 years to pull it off amazing. And remeber they are from low volume areas.
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« Reply #144 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 04:16am »

VIPERONE,

YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC AS THERE IS MUCH MORE TO IT THAN WHAT MEETS YOUR POST...FIRST OFF...CHECK THE BURN TEMP OF JET FUEL AS WELL AS THE KINDLING TEMP OF STEEL...MOREOVER...STEEL WHICH HAVE BEEN COATED WITH FIRE RETARDANT...
IN A TOTALLY COINCIDENTAL PHOTOGRAPHIC ACCOUNT IN BUILDING SEVEN WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECURE COMPOUND FOR SUCH EVENTS WHEREIN THE MAYOR SHOULD'VE BEEN RUSHED TO...THIS BUILDING CAME DOWN IN THE EXACT SAME FASHION AS ANY BUILDING UNDER A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
ONE ADDITIONAL FACT WHICH WAS CONFIRMED BY THIS PHOTOGRAPHER WHOM WAS CONTRACTED TO DOCUMENT/PHOTOGRAPH BUILDING SEVEN...IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE TOP SECRET VAULT WHICH WAS USED BY SEVERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN PARTICULAR THE CIA...WHICH WAS UNDERSTOOD.TO CONTAIN VAST SUMS OF MONEY ALONG WITH COUNTLESS SECURE DOCUMENTS...THIS VAULT WAS PHOTOGRAPHED JUST AFTER THE BUILDING COLLAPSE WITH THE VAULT WIDE OPEN AND COMPLETELY EMPTY...ANYONE CARE TO ENTERTAIN HOW SUCH COULD'VE COME ABOUT...
WHAT CAUSED THIS BUILDING TO GONE DOWN....THERE WAS NO IMPACT..
SOME ALLUDE TO DAMAGE FROM DEBRIS FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH TOWER...VIDEOS SHOW NOMINAL DEBRIS IMPACT THUS SUCH CONCLUSION TO BE A REACH...
WELL...TO THOSE WHOM REMAIN COMFORTABLE ON THE COUCH,T.V. CONTROL IN HAND AND BOUNCE TO THE KITCHEN ON EACH FOOD COMMERCIAL...YOUR COMFORT ZONE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED...BUT TO THOSE WHOSE ...WHO,WHAT,WHERE,WHEN,AND HOW CONTINUE TO HAVE QUESTIONS...YOU WOULD DO YOURSELF SERVICE BY MAINTAINING AN OPEN MIND AS THERE IS MUCH TO COME OUT IN THE FUTURE...

SHALOM...ZETAR

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BUILDING SEVEN IS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE...


THE PENTAGON...HOW CAN ONE OF THE MOST SECURE BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD PROVIDE ONLY ONE FRAME OF VIDEOTAPE TO ASSURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A PLANE IMPACTED...WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF OTHER CAMERAS WHICH SHOULD'VE BEEN OPERATIONAL...MUCH LESS ANY NUMBER OF CIVILIAN CAMERAS...
THIS PLANE IF IMPACTED ACCORDING TO THE VIDEO...LEVEL AT SAY 15-25 AGL...ABOVE GROUND LEVEL...IT SHOULD'VE PLOWED A PATH OF DESTRUCTION ON FINAL APPROACH SUCKING UP CARS AND POLES WHILE ENROUTE TO FINAL IMPACT.
FURTHERMORE...ONE OF THE FIRST WITNESSES WHOM CRAWLED FROM UNDER HER DESK DID NOT SEE THE HULL OR SHELL OF A PLANE

THIS FRACTIONAL EVIDENCE CONCERNING THIS/THOSE INCIDENTS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM FRACTIONAL EVIDENCE USED WITH UFOS...I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE IN COURT CONVICTED WITH EQUAL OR LESS EVIDENCE...
WELL...SHALOM AGAIN...ZETAR
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« Reply #145 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 05:00am »

on Jul 4th, 2012, 04:16am, ZETAR wrote:
VIPERONE,

YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC AS THERE IS MUCH MORE TO IT THAN WHAT MEETS YOUR POST...FIRST OFF...CHECK THE BURN TEMP OF JET FUEL AS WELL AS THE KINDLING TEMP OF STEEL...MOREOVER...STEEL WHICH HAVE BEEN COATED WITH FIRE RETARDANT...
IN A TOTALLY COINCIDENTAL PHOTOGRAPHIC ACCOUNT IN BUILDING SEVEN WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECURE COMPOUND FOR SUCH EVENTS WHEREIN THE MAYOR SHOULD'VE BEEN RUSHED TO...THIS BUILDING CAME DOWN IN THE EXACT SAME FASHION AS ANY BUILDING UNDER A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
ONE ADDITIONAL FACT WHICH WAS CONFIRMED BY THIS PHOTOGRAPHER WHOM WAS CONTRACTED TO DOCUMENT/PHOTOGRAPH BUILDING SEVEN...IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE TOP SECRET VAULT WHICH WAS USED BY SEVERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN PARTICULAR THE CIA...WHICH WAS UNDERSTOOD.TO CONTAIN VAST SUMS OF MONEY ALONG WITH COUNTLESS SECURE DOCUMENTS...THIS VAULT WAS PHOTOGRAPHED JUST AFTER THE BUILDING COLLAPSE WITH THE VAULT WIDE OPEN AND COMPLETELY EMPTY...ANYONE CARE TO ENTERTAIN HOW SUCH COULD'VE COME ABOUT...
WHAT CAUSED THIS BUILDING TO GONE DOWN....THERE WAS NO IMPACT..
SOME ALLUDE TO DAMAGE FROM DEBRIS FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH TOWER...VIDEOS SHOW NOMINAL DEBRIS IMPACT THUS SUCH CONCLUSION TO BE A REACH...
WELL...TO THOSE WHOM REMAIN COMFORTABLE ON THE COUCH,T.V. CONTROL IN HAND AND BOUNCE TO THE KITCHEN ON EACH FOOD COMMERCIAL...YOUR COMFORT ZONE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED...BUT TO THOSE WHOSE ...WHO,WHAT,WHERE,WHEN,AND HOW CONTINUE TO HAVE QUESTIONS...YOU WOULD DO YOURSELF SERVICE BY MAINTAINING AN OPEN MIND AS THERE IS MUCH TO COME OUT IN THE FUTURE...

SHALOM...ZETAR

EDIT TO ADD:
BUILDING SEVEN IS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE...


THE PENTAGON...HOW CAN ONE OF THE MOST SECURE BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD PROVIDE ONLY ONE FRAME OF VIDEOTAPE TO ASSURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A PLANE IMPACTED...WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF OTHER CAMERAS WHICH SHOULD'VE BEEN OPERATIONAL...MUCH LESS ANY NUMBER OF CIVILIAN CAMERAS...
THIS PLANE IF IMPACTED ACCORDING TO THE VIDEO...LEVEL AT SAY 15-25 AGL...ABOVE GROUND LEVEL...IT SHOULD'VE PLOWED A PATH OF DESTRUCTION ON FINAL APPROACH SUCKING UP CARS AND POLES WHILE ENROUTE TO FINAL IMPACT.
FURTHERMORE...ONE OF THE FIRST WITNESSES WHOM CRAWLED FROM UNDER HER DESK DID NOT SEE THE HULL OR SHELL OF A PLANE

THIS FRACTIONAL EVIDENCE CONCERNING THIS/THOSE INCIDENTS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM FRACTIONAL EVIDENCE USED WITH UFOS...I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE IN COURT CONVICTED WITH EQUAL OR LESS EVIDENCE...
WELL...SHALOM AGAIN...ZETAR


I agree ZETAR, building seven is the (literally) smoking gun here. As Viperone says, the explanation of superheated kerosine fires at the very least makes it POSSIBLE WTC 1 and 2 structurally failed. And since no plane has impacted Seven, its structural, controlled demolition-like, pancaking collapse, is left without scientific explanation. Not even in the official report, which only arrives at a high probability a vital column failed, with the added caveats that some facts do NOT support this conclusion, and some facts were WITHHELD.

The ninja's of old called this 'hiding in plain sight'.

I suspect the US gov carried out a mission on almost unimaginable scale, involving the destruction of three WTC buildings, with the whole world watching, yet no one knew what they saw.


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« Reply #146 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 1:25pm »

ZETAR and purr have their opinions which reflects this whole belief in what they think is a mass 9/11 conspiracy, that`s fine such is the diverse here, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #147 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 2:02pm »

im not listening to one side of the story.... its just that one side is more convincing. Osama Bin Laden had a kidney disease. He was on dialysis, and it would have been a medical miracle for him to survive to 2011. And the US government gave millions to Al Quada and the taliban. Theres also reasons for them to bomb these locations, like bombing the pentagon gave them a newer, more advanced building with no questions from the UN. Bombing two buildings full of people gave them a reason for war, increasing the defense budget. You could have one take out the president, but have a suicidal man crash the plane too soon and blame it on heroic passengers, adding more believability. And these are just scratching the surface. I don't know exactly why they did it, but I'm almost certain it was done by America.
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« Reply #148 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 2:40pm »

HEY PK,

YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT.

I MUST ADD TO YOUR OBSERVATION...I TOO TOOK SAID INCIDENT (9/11) AT FACE VALUE.
I'VE BEEN TRAINED AS A PRIVATE PILOT WHICH HELPED MY UNDERSTANDING/QUESTION CERTAIN ASPECTS OF SAID INCIDENT.
WHEN PILOT AFTER PILOT ALONG WITH ENGINEER AFTER ENGINEER TEMPERED WITH DEMOLITION EXPERTS TESTIMONY LED ME TO INITIATE MY OWN RESEARCH WHICH SLOWLY REVEALED TO ME AN OPTIONAL EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT MAY HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
I PREFACE ALL SITUATIONS WITH ONE BASIC TENENT...WHO OR WHOM HAD THE MOST TO GAIN AND WHY...(MOTIVE).
MOREOVER,IT'S CRITICAL TO FOLLOW THE MONEY AS IT THE GREASE FOR THE COGS AND OFTEN MOTIVATION IN ADDITION TO THE OLDEST MOTIVE OF ALL...(POWER/CONTROL)
THERE ARE MANY SUCH NAMES/PEOPLE WHOM I SHAN'T MENTION AS ONE SHOULD COME ACROSS IF THEY DO THEIR INDEPENDENT RESEARCH.
MY POINT AND OBSERVATION IS THAT THERE IS CLEARLY MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE...AND THERE WILL BE THOSE WHOM ADOPT AN OSTRICH MENTALITY BY BURYING THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND ...THOSE PEOPLE FALL INTO THE GROUP WHOM BELIEVED ONES WHOM PLACED THEM AT RADIATION TEST SITES POPPING OFF MUSHROOM MUNITIONS...INJECTED PATIENTS WITH RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL FOR LAB STATISTICS...INJECTED THOSE AT TUSKEGEE INSTITUTE WITH SYPHILIS...FURTHERMORE MANIPULATED THE DOCTORS TO LIE TO PATIENTS FOR YEARS FOR DATA...THAT THERE WAS NO I'LL INTENT NOR COMPLICITY.
I'M NOT SAYING OUR GOVERNMENT DID 9/11...MAY HAVE BEEN COMPLICIT...BUT IT TOOK MORE THAN 19 TO EXECUTE FOR THE RESULTS OBTAINED ALONG WITH THE POLITICAL/PSYCHOLOGICAL/ECONOMIC OUTCOME FELT THROUGH TODAY AND BEYOND...

SHALOM...ZETAR
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« Reply #149 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 4:28pm »

on Oct 28th, 2010, 08:19am, HAL9000 wrote:
Icepick,

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You and me both. smiley

Were probably not as far apart as you think. But I'll respect your wish not to pursue the issue. After all, it is a ufo site, not a general government policy conspiracy rant.

If you would ever like to expand on your theory off what they were looking for then I would be interested to hear it.

HAl

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A long time down the road to reply Hal. I know. I just wanted to point out how much things have changed during this time. America now seems callous under current leadership, and many even think that the current administration would like to see a war start because it would mean a great boost to his waning poll status. As proof they point to the fact that our drones are now flying the unfriendly skies of several central and northern African Nations. Complete with Hellfire Missiles.

Our president succeeded in getting Iran so stirred up that we now have to keep three carrier task forces on patrol in and near the Gulf Region.

National security secrets keep landing in the press, and the administration is the best suspect.

Our attorney general is in contempt of congress whether they decide that way or not.

All is no longer well with America. I never thought I would say this, but I'm starting to yearn for the good old days of Bubba and Dubya. Yeesh!

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