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« Reply #240 on: May 13th, 2009, 8:20pm »

but there is commercial flights over the north pole and its not always covered in cloud
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« Reply #241 on: May 19th, 2009, 8:37pm »

No commercial flights north of 85 N.
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« Reply #242 on: May 20th, 2009, 2:02pm »

Africa,

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...For demonstration how far your eye could see from an altitude of 30 000 feet go to Google Earth ,fill the screen with the globe and just under 1 hundredth of the inch is your eye height on that globe.Would you see a huge hole from that perspective ? Definitely not....

I don't need a Google demonstration. I fly twice a year to Greece, usually in the daytime. In fact I got back from there last night.
I can assure you, as you apparently don't fly, that car sized objects can be easily seen from 30,000 feet.
Don't be fooled by the digital pixelation. The human eye is far more sensitive. Anyone that has flown will confirm this.

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« Reply #243 on: May 20th, 2009, 6:09pm »

on May 19th, 2009, 8:37pm, africa wrote:
No commercial flights north of 85 N.


loads of them all you have to do is look heres a few.

http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/40943.htm
http://www.tq-international.com/NorthPoleFlight2008/NPFlighthome.htm
http://wikitravel.org/en/North_Pole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxoVm2BAR28&feature=channel

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/408625/
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« Reply #244 on: May 26th, 2009, 4:00pm »

I don't need a Google demonstration. I fly twice a year to Greece, usually in the daytime. In fact I got back from there last night.
I can assure you, as you apparently don't fly, that car sized objects can be easily seen from 30,000 feet.
Don't be fooled by the digital pixelation. The human eye is far more sensitive. Anyone that has flown will confirm this.


Hi AVA ,
you said I apparently don't fly and can assure you that upon the time when I was marine superintendent for 17 years I flew a lot sometimes changing three planes in a single day.
I could also assure you will not be able to see such a huge hole from plane perspective.
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« Reply #245 on: May 27th, 2009, 12:56am »

Hi Africa,

just finished reading the 17 pages of that thread,very
interesting indeed !
Did you ever read this book

" BÍtes,Hommes et Dieux " by Ossendowski ?
(Beasts,Men and Gods )
Haven't time right now to search, but'll be back later trying to give you English ref ( if it's possible ...)
Sorry for poor language,it's all I can do rolleyes
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« Reply #246 on: May 27th, 2009, 03:50am »

Just to give some precisions : Beasts,Men and God
was written in +- 1920 by a Polack aventurer, a very clever man, telling his story of escaping war by crossing some countries as far as Gobi Desert, Mongolia etc ...
He meet some rare people as shaman and so on, and, if my
memory still right, he was speaking about hollow earth and
Agartha (or Shamballa ? ) Kingdom smiley wich were very well known by people living in these contries at the time !
I read this years ago when I was a teen, and should have to ring amazon to get that book back in my biblioteca !
It's available in English too ...

Well that was my little input to this phenoma of hollow earth, and I'll be back soon if I find anything new and/or interesting !
Have a good day ! wink
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« Reply #247 on: May 27th, 2009, 08:20am »

Africa,

So you do (or did) fly. My apologies. But I still have problems with your assertion that 'such a huge hole' as you put it, wouldn't be seen from a plane. I really don't see how you can claim this; going from my own experiences.
I estimate that, from 30,000 foot I have a resolution of about 1 sqr metre. That is I can easily see an object 1 metre square. I do wear specs, but only to add clarity, not for magnification.

Can you explain a bit more why I wouldn't be able to see this hole.

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« Reply #248 on: May 27th, 2009, 1:53pm »

on May 27th, 2009, 08:20am, ava wrote:
Africa,

So you do (or did) fly. My apologies. But I still have problems with your assertion that 'such a huge hole' as you put it, wouldn't be seen from a plane. I really don't see how you can claim this; going from my own experiences.
I estimate that, from 30,000 foot I have a resolution of about 1 sqr metre. That is I can easily see an object 1 metre square. I do wear specs, but only to add clarity, not for magnification.

Can you explain a bit more why I wouldn't be able to see this hole.

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Ava ,
you will have good visibility looking down and even at an angle of 70-80 deg but than closing to 90 deg you visibility would be sharply decreased and there somewhere on the horizon is the hole and its center span only 95 nm and the
center is always filled with clouds.

http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/capada/?action=view¤t=hollowearth121-1.jpg

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« Reply #249 on: May 28th, 2009, 12:33pm »

Africa wrote: "No commercial flights north of 85 N. "
on May 20th, 2009, 6:09pm, sense wrote:
loads of them all you have to do is look heres a few.

http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/40943.htm
http://www.tq-international.com/NorthPoleFlight2008/NPFlighthome.htm
http://wikitravel.org/en/North_Pole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxoVm2BAR28&feature=channel
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/408625/


sense: These references you gave do NOT confirm that there are "loads of them". They don't give latitudes of the flights showing they go anywhere within 350 miles of the true north pole. 85N to 90N (true north pole) is roughly 350 miles. The full distance across this circle would be roughly 700 miles.

If anyone has accurate evidence of a commercial flight going north of 85N, please share it with us.

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« Reply #250 on: May 29th, 2009, 08:52am »

it is only common sense to me that the earth is hollow. I find it would be hard to believe otherwise. WIth all the oil, gas, lava and such down there, it would have to be hollow. PLus i doubt the earth has cooled enuff to be completely solid. THe earth isn't really round either. It is round-ish due to gravity, rotation, centrifical force, and other forces of nature, but it's far from "round". Think about the highest mountains like mt. everest, and then the deepest parts of the ocean. We're talking many, many, many miles difference. Far from "round". tongue
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« Reply #251 on: May 29th, 2009, 11:00am »

trevdogg,

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..it is only common sense to me that the earth is hollow. I find it would be hard to believe otherwise. WIth all the oil, gas, lava and such down there, it would have to be hollow...

Wouldn't that imply that the Earth is full of oil, gas, lava and such ? As well as rock, iron etc. Not much room for a hollow.

Africa,

Let me get this straight. You are saying that there is an area about 95 nautical mile in diameter that is located at the North pole and is always covered with cloud. And that 99.9 percent of the folks that have traversed this area are sworn to some kind of secrecy ?

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« Reply #252 on: May 29th, 2009, 4:59pm »

Hi Guerande,
I didn't read "Betes,hommes et Dieux" me je vais le lire si je le trouves.
There is also another writer from those lands a lama from Tibet ,Lobsang T. Rampa who wrote in one of his books about Shambala ,Agharta and green lands on north pole.
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« Reply #253 on: May 29th, 2009, 6:25pm »

on May 20th, 2009, 6:09pm, sense wrote:
loads of them all you have to do is look heres a few.

http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/40943.htm
http://www.tq-international.com/NorthPoleFlight2008/NPFlighthome.htm
http://wikitravel.org/en/North_Pole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxoVm2BAR28&feature=channel

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/408625/



Hi Sense,
I have loads of proofs that polar flights are not passing over north pole and here is one.
In the link down bellow is the flight Montreal-Beijing and its shortest route.
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/capada/?action=view¤t=polarflights2.jpg

In the following link is what they presented as their way points till 85 N and 90 w the next waypoint would be polar 2 Devid on 89 N just 60 miles off red point which is north pole.If they would turn back to Devid the route would lead them to Karachi,Pakistan instead of Beijing.

Furthermore polar 2 DEVID,ABERI and ULMM at 89 N and PAZA at 88 N are for 400-600 nm longer then shortest routes on rhumb(great circle) line between main airports in US and Asia.

http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/capada/?action=view¤t=polarflights.jpg

Down bellow is the link to some of polar routes as presented by authorities .
In my opinion they are selling polar routes for public and in fact they round the pole for much more then ABERI,DEVID and ULMM way points.

http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/capada/?action=view¤t=polar_fig1.jpg
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« Reply #254 on: May 30th, 2009, 1:50pm »

Africa,

'Red Ball in the Sky' By Charles Francis Blair.

Below is a comment on this book. I've read it. It does describe Blair crossing the North Pole.

..U.K.: Jarrolds, 1970. xiv, 208 pages which includes an index. Illustrated with black and white plates. Foreword by Lowell Thomas. ' One sunny day in May 1951 a bareheaded man in tweeds streaked across the top of the world in one of the great flights of history. The pilot was Charles Blair; and this was the first long distance solo flight across any polar region, demonstrating that non-military transpolar flights were feasible. It proved too that the Arctic Ocean was no longer a barrier against air attack. As a result Blair was invited by the Strategic Air Command to help develop a new scheme of military tactics, thus becoming the only regular fighter pilot who, as a Pan Am captain, also flew airliners to Europe at weekends. Blair tells too of his pioneering achievements in flying boats, of the Air Mail pilots with whom he flew across the Rockies, of his dash in a P-51 from New York to London on the crest of a winter jet stream, and of his leading the first flight of jet fighters to cross the North Pole. Above all an action story, Red Ball in the Sky is the engrossing autobiography of one of America's most distinguished flyers-and of a man whose warnings about the spreading technology of thermonuclear weapons must be listened to with respect

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