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« Reply #105 on: Jul 14th, 2010, 03:20am »

On the other hand, I should have read your other post first. That shed a lot of light on the subject. What is it, they just change the rules of their language from one text to the next? That's one very confusing system. I know that the Hebrews have one of the oldest writing systems, but from that it's small wonder that it didn't win top honors in the modern world.
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« Reply #106 on: Jul 14th, 2010, 03:25am »

MOKSHA:

It sounds like you might have a point. After reading that one post from PlanosLie, it sounds like the understanding might be a difficult issue with some of the ancient Hebrew texts. If they are able to switch meanings like that .......... well.

I'm thinking it must have a lot to do with context, but I haven't had time to digest this yet. I'm definitely going to have a talk with our Prof that does the languages here after reading that. A linguist I'm not, and my language skills are, well, not the best. This makes for a bit of food for thought.
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« Reply #107 on: Jul 14th, 2010, 03:43am »

I think this should be addressed to all. It's a thought I have had more than once, but it also concerns a subject that I have always been convinced is strictly mythology. But who knows?

NOW. NOBODY BETTER GET THE IMPRESSION I'M A LITTLE OUT THERE OVER THIS because I think it sounds crazy myself.

The Bible says that the Nephilim were the result of fallen angels or sons of God breeding with the daughters of men. At least that's how I get it (usually.). And it goes on to say they became men of old, men of reknown, insinuating that they had great capabilities.

In mythology there is one group of immortals that were constantly bedding down with Earth women and producing offspring. Offspring who weren't necessarily good individuals by any means. But who was this? This is where I have issues with this line of thinking. It was the gods of the Greeks and Romans who were always bedding Earth women and having kids, remember?

Now, what's everybody else's take? I've always come to the conclusion that this is nuttier than a fruit cake. But is that really the case? Or is it just my conditioning talking? I know that our known facts prior to 7,000 BC is basically zip, so I'm tossing this out there in the spirit of keeping an open mind. As well as embarrassing myself, hehe.

So what kicks this type of thinking off in me? It's that statement the Sumerians made about the Nefilim (yes they allegedly spelled it differently), that they were "Like gods to us". That insinuates that the people they called Nefilim had some kind of power(s), doesn't it?
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« Reply #108 on: Jul 14th, 2010, 05:24am »

Mr. Icepick, Yes I do agree 100%, from my view point, this is exactly what happened, the missing link in our DNA, has the key to unlocking this mystery, as soon as we are Able to understand all of our DNA we will know the truth, this will happen soon, unlike you I don't worry about cake or fruit wink
he he, we all deserve to know the truth, no matter how far out of the box it maybe.
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« Reply #109 on: Jul 21st, 2010, 4:45pm »

Have we run out of input? I am reading a old book by Zecharia Sitchin 1976, The 12th Planet, very interesting.
Here is some of my own, that will be in my book, "GET ON THE RIGHT BUS"
I often wonder what Jesus would think of us now, what words of wisdom he might share to help us all with the path of light, when so many are filled with hate, greed, arrogant pride of self importance, thinking humans are so high and mighty; on the ladder of Gods court where do humans find themselves? I see so many, not Able to be humbled, not using reason and understanding first, before judging others for their perspective, not Being Able to know the understanding of others, thinking one thing and not knowing the other, unwilling or unable to try, will make sure, never to know, till the time of spiritual growth and hopes of moving one step closer to understanding as much as one can, this for me, is my definitive.
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« Reply #110 on: Aug 1st, 2010, 11:11am »

No, I was out of town for a while. Over towards the Rockies for some sun and relaxation.

Your comment about testing the DNA is good, except how will you know what's a hit? I mean, we don't have any samples to test against. For all we know, we're all Nephilim. In my book, that makes it tough.

On the other hand, who am I to say? They may very well have a procedure, or know how to develop one, that would rectify the situation.

I've been thinking about something while I was gone. This continent, North America, and Russia-Siberia are a couple of oddballs. The ancient history for these two regions is practically non-existent. There is a little stuff, but not much.

But there is definitely nothing like the nearly universal pyramid structures in these two regions. No massive temples or mega civilizations from yore. Doesn't that seem a little strange to you? I mean, here we are right in the middle of two places where the largest human migration in history allegedly took place. And there's nothing? That just doesn't sound right to me. Yourself?
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« Reply #111 on: Aug 1st, 2010, 11:23am »

As for Jesus? Probably not surprised. I mean, he did prophecize all of this. 2,000 years ago, and it sounds pretty accurate. Unfortunately.

He definitely had unique ideas about how to handle things that we'd do good to try to emulate today. Ever think about the Judeo-Christian way? No sacrifices, no gifts, no idols, you don't really have to worship in the way other religions do. Just treat your fellow humans like you would like to be treated is the bulk of it. Wouldn't it be great if people really would live by that code?

<sigh>just a pipe dream though. Every generation still gets to fight a war, etc. etc. Really sad.
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« Reply #112 on: Aug 1st, 2010, 12:47pm »

Good to have you back, I will start saying this more often: I FELL IN LOVE WITH EVERYTHING, JUST DON'T HATE ME FOR IT".
from my view, the evil that is done by man, is of man, evil will be undone by its own doing, for me, its the way it is, the separation was started a long time ago, and just keeps on repeating, just like Cain and Able, so we all have our free will, we all get to decide to get on that BUS or this BUS or don't get on either BUS, this is how I see IT, what happened long time ago cannot be undone, I have been thinking more about things to be, here is what I have worked out, in my humble opinion, the GAME plan of the evil doers is as follows,#1 they try to scare you, #2 they try to make you HATE something, #3 they call for WAR on IT.
the spirit world is mostly unknown so it got the rap of being demonic, and I am convinced we also will be part of the spirit world, once our time of separation has been served here what we know as life, I hope this time is just a blink of a eye in what is to be in the after.
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« Reply #113 on: Aug 1st, 2010, 11:21pm »

Evil that is done by man says a lot. We're probably a unique species I'm thinking. Somebody decided to monkey around with our DNA, and it caused problems. There is probably many species out there that didn't have their wires scrambled.

So I wonder who it was that decided to 'help' us?
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« Reply #114 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 03:44am »

Yes, but if our wires didn't get mixed, we would not be like we ARE, I think its possible the entire universe is a living organism, our ancient cultures knew more of this then we do now, we have been taught to strive for something better I am afraid and sad most went for gold and not God, I get to see things from my perspective and I see the very very small things and the SUPER COLOSSAL things follow the same pattern.
as for your thought about US USSR that is weird, south America has some cool old stuff, is it possible that the old stuff is now under water and back then it was a little different, I don't know, I think we are about to discover some things of great importance and some stuff will be under water, I live in Fla now, I am from Chicago and American Indian artifacts were found at the bottom of lake Michigan.
any way it's nice to talk with again
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« Reply #115 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 5:41pm »

iv spent most of my life on bible teachings,im not totaly at heart with what it teaches like i used to be,i spent alot of my life being taught about it,but never realy agreed with alot of it,im open minded on the whole thing of aliens,and god and what not as im still trying to find my way as such to this world why we are here and whats to come.in the account of the flood it says that god sent the flood to kill the sons of god the giants of old, and that in that day they who had materilized them selfs human bodys went back out of them and that all the people died exept noah and so on,so as the bible says they were the say bad angels who followed satan as there leader and were then forth never to be able to materilize human bodys again, acording to what i was taught becouse god took there power away that let them do that,now i got confused when i read moses as there in numbers 13 33 it says that the sons of anak the nephilim were in the land they spyed out now how can that be if in the flood they were all wiped out, no one could be an ancester to any of them,so as usual i am confused with the bibles teachings as i always was and confused with alot of other stuff in the bible to,alot of greek myth is teh same and so is alot of other stuff from ancient peoples beliefs so when thats the case i think may be its all myth or maybe its all true about the giants and its just a story a true one thats got changed and over time no one realy noes any more,i think like this, they are either alien and god is to from another planet far advanced than we are or the bible is write either way one day wel know the truth of it but right now i havnt a clue,im hoping what i was taught means im going to live for ever one day, but then maybe not and also i would like to beleive that aliens exist and that il meet them one day either way i hope im there to see either out come of what ever the right beleife is of the end of times of the world population or the heavenly thing, im a dreamer and always hope theres something more than what weve got, i watch the skys at night and read everything i can,the nephilim are either angels that were bad and had kids after materilaizing bodys as the bible says or they were aliens who keep an eye on are world and tryed to live here once, but if that is true then what mayed them leave if they were so strong who could have made them leave if theres no god and theres only use and other alien life forms out there,i go on a bit sorry hope some one gets what im meaning
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« Reply #116 on: Aug 2nd, 2010, 6:54pm »

dm, I think it is written in the Bible like this, the flood was to wipe out the seed, but it says that they Nephilim were here before and after the time of Noah.
there are many things in the Bible I have not noticed in past readings, it can be very confusing.
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If you like music try that also, you CAN get in touch with what has always been inside of you, just have to keep trying.
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« Reply #117 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 04:03am »

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« Reply #118 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:16pm »

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You're right. It's pretty confusing, the way it's presented in the Bible. But no, the Nephilim were present after the flood, even though it was meant to wipe them out. There is a couple of other books that go into more detail about this.

Yes, they allegedly were big, but giant was a mistranslation. Nephelim means 'fallen ones' or 'those who came down' or similar, depending on who you listen to. The actual issue with them was that they had no soul. At least that's how I understand it.

If you wish, find some of the stuff that the Sumerians wrote about them. This is an intriguing subject, and it's pretty informational as to where we come from in my opinion. The background story that is, not the Nephilim themselves. If you're interested in this subject, read the Book of Watchers.
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« Reply #119 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:27pm »

MOKSHA:

That's a cool area down there for North American History. About the only place there is any present.

You're right about things being submerged. I'm absolutely positive that's where a lot of the answers will be found. 80% of the world's population lives within 50 miles of the ocean. Always has, for obvious reasons.

That is strange about the US/USSR isn't it? Everybody drifted through, but nobody stayed? I don't know about you, but I'm not buying it. I say watch for somebody to find another theoretical migration route, at a much earlier time.

Also, a lot of animals disappeared from North America at the end of the last ice age, so something catastrophic might have happened here. But that doesn't answer the Asian side. Those are some of my thoughts.
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