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« Reply #120 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:35pm »

PlanosLie:

I'm still working on that bit about strange, hybrid animals in days of yore. I can't remember exactly where, but somebody did a great piece of research on this about 15 years ago. Nothing from Greek Mythology or anything mind you. There are other cultures that did a wholesale move to wipe them out according to legends. They're all too similar to dismiss.

I remember from talking with some of my people from the Cherokee Nation, that we have a couple of legends about this, but that is strictly oral history.
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« Reply #121 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:56pm »

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Yes, they allegedly were big, but giant was a mistranslation. Nephelim means 'fallen ones' or 'those who came down' or similar, depending on who you listen to.


I hate to sound contrary but I see some inaccurate Sitchen belief in the above statement.

1. The English Bible/s translate from the Greek LXX which uses "gigantes" where the Hebrew nephı̂yl, -nephilim plural- is. This is not a mistranslation.

2. The nephilim can be said as the "fallen ones" but the term "those who came down" is a Sitchen fabrication, not validated by any reputable Hebrew scholar.
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« Reply #122 on: Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:58pm »

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« Reply #123 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 01:51am »

Aren't you thinking of Sitchen's "those who from the heavens came" in reference to the Annunaki? Because that one I do know about.

Actually, I thought he claimed to be a cuneiform linguist. I wasn't aware he's attempted to dabble in Hebrew. I don't believe he will be accredited anywhere after assigning a planet to a comet's ellipse like that. A cosmologist he's not, and that is obvious.
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« Reply #124 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 05:18am »

Mr. Icepick, the History channel has been airing very interesting shows, some have to do with Annunaki and what has been left in stone, clinical mixing of humans with birds and animals, in the Egyptian pyramids and in the Sumerian tablets, what I find so interesting is some of the images they are showing on TV, about NASA missions, they are very very brief, but if you know what to look for, they are showing untouched images, ones that the general public have never seen, even thought most people will say your crazy if you tell them there are artifacts on the Moon and on Mars, I personally know the truth, and I FEEL more of this data is going to be released, the blinded eyes of the masses will be opened, ready or not.
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« Reply #125 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 07:02am »

i was always taught that the nephilim were demons babys, that bad angels from heaven fancied women on earth were jeoulos cos thye wanted what we had cos they couldnt have children, so they came down and materilized bodys for them selfs ,made bodys for them selfs cos they were spirit bodys from heaven,then had children who grew to be huge and nasty people who did terrible things, so god sent f;lood to wipe them all out so all the children the nephilim died and the angels whod made bodys for them selfs went back up to heaven so they are still around but the nephilim arnt, now this is what iv been told,i was also told that aliens are demons misleading people to thinking theres no god and only life on other planets but then im not sayinmg its true cos i dont know, im an open minded person and im looking for truth, there is so many diff storys about giants ad what not from history of diff cultures that i dont know if it means it is all true or that the storys have been changed over time, becouse of diff cultures and diff people telling storry passing it down, but theres deff sumat in all of it,
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« Reply #126 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 07:48am »

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Actually, I thought he claimed to be a cuneiform linguist.


He does indeed claim to be, but has no Sumerian scholar to back up his fanciful ideas, of what he says is in the text. There's even a website from a Semitic scholar that has dedicated time in refuting his preposterous ideas.

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/
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« Reply #127 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 07:56am »

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A cosmologist he's not, and that is obvious.


Good eye good eye. I love talking to Sitchenites that have a hard time understanding the basics to the impossibility of life on a planet that has such an oblong orbit, that biological life could only exist (part of the time) when the planet reaches the right relation (to and away) to the sun. Once that position has passed, the planet would be too cold at points for life and then too hot at other points. The window for perfect relation of distance to the sun -for there to be life- would be a minimum.
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« Reply #128 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:06pm »

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You've pretty much got it down. I don't believe that all of the aliens are doing the devil's handwork though, but there does seem to be one faction that's up to no good. But there is also a faction that seems to be otherwise.

The Nephilim were the hybrid offspring, yes. I get that too. And they might very well be unable to have offspring. Just like a Liger or a Tiglon (Lion/Tiger hybrids).
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« Reply #129 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:15pm »

Yes MOKSHA, the History channel does have a good run going with that Ancient Aliens series. Just so they keep up with distinguishing the who/what/where of every source like they are, and continue to be this even-handed. I'd hate to see the series go sensationalist just because this is a subject with a limited amount of available material ............

We'll know real soon though. They're at a stage now where they still have material, but it won't be so cheap to get. They are dabbling too, because Native American is one of those sources. The relevant material is going to be highly controversial though. We'll see how much guts they've got methinks.
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« Reply #130 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:31pm »

Yeah, I hate that he zeroed on the Sumerians like he has. There is plenty of genuine material in their history ....... I don't see why you would have to make any up. Know what I mean?

Yeesh! There's all of those images in their art. And then you have their actual references to the Nephilim.

And yes, I really am convinced that the Sumerians were ancestors to the Hebrews. Don't ask me why, because there is no scientific reason for this. For some reason or other I have this gut feeling that just keeps telling me that when the Sumerians did their fade? A lot of them went Egypt way and turned up in the Exodus. Ever have a hunch that sticks with you that hard?

But my next piece of research is going to be checking to see if I can spot a trail of Aryans back to the Indus Valley like the folks in India say happened. I'm sure you've caught a couple of my posts about the missing USA/USSR ancient history? That's a result of my first bit of investigation. Interesting discrepancies we have there. I'm suddenly listening to hear what the alternate migration route folks have to say. Because one would think the same style of clues would exist all along the route. Not just at either end.
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« Reply #131 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:35pm »

Thank you Planoslie, Mike and his site Sitchinswrong was interesting I may not finish that old book he wrote the 12th planet, this also will help me understanding how to get my view opened without speculation.
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« Reply #132 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:41pm »

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That website is a perfect example of the reason I'm so upset that he zeroed on the Sumerians. He has put entire camps on the defensive trying to make a case for their personal opinion on his bullpuckey. Truly sad.
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« Reply #133 on: Aug 4th, 2010, 6:52pm »

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"Yes MOKSHA, the History channel does have a good run going with that Ancient Aliens series. Just so they keep up with distinguishing the who/what/where of every source like they are, and continue to be this even-handed. I'd hate to see the series go sensationalist just because this is a subject with a limited amount of available material..."

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I hate to say it but they already have, and some time ago. I know personally that they have interviewed some individuals and edited their interview to make it say something opposite of what their stance actually is. One guy I have spoken to personally. The History channel has agenda for sure. sad
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« Reply #134 on: Aug 5th, 2010, 02:36am »

That's pretty sad. As far as I know, they haven't compromised this series yet. Hopefully it's a producer specific thing. If not it's only a matter of (very short) time, because they're right on the threshold of having difficulty getting material for the series.

I'd like to see them get at the mound builder stuff that's been buried in the Smithsonian, but you know that stuff is off limits. In the last twenty years there has been a huge push to prove the mound builders were Native Americans. Forget all about the fact that the natives don't have clue 1 about mound builder culture. The Kennewick Man made them feel their indigenous title is at stake or something.
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