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« Reply #180 on: Aug 31st, 2010, 5:00pm »

NorvalC:

That's something which has come up in a few places. But these 'giants' are in the vein of Goliath. 8 to 12 feet tall, probably 1500 pounds. Think Incredible Hulk. Warriors who were impossible to beat using regular tactics.

Have you ever noticed how the Israelis are such fantastic fighters? That's probably because YHWH/God probably did something helpful to their genome, as they were utilized to defeat the last remnants of the giant's armies in ancient times. The information is out there, but for some reason or other it's not spelled out plainly in the Bible. Hence, all the mystery.
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« Reply #181 on: Aug 31st, 2010, 5:11pm »

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I don't know where you've seen them, but there may be some interesting stuff reported by the special forces guys who've been posted in strange places like Turkmenestan. Be careful though, because this is rumor mill stuff. You aren't going to find anything like a publicly available special forces report. Technically, there's no such thing.

But if you know any credible military personnel who've been to places you've never heard of? If you can gain their confidence, ask. The USA has been sending all kinds of sf personnel to weird places like that, in an attempt to locate all of Pakistan's 30-some odd nuclear weapons. Apparently some may be missing. And that factoid can be found in some places occasionally.

The whole thing starts playing out like something out of Jeremiah, chapters 49 & 50. Spooky stuff.
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« Reply #182 on: Aug 31st, 2010, 5:48pm »

Haven't been around much recently MOKSHA. The Hopi are an interesting lot. I'm 1/4 Cherokee blood myself, and have found my people have some interesting 'legends' as well. I use quotes because these stories could easily be far more than legends. My people are just more private than the Hopi/Navajo/Pueblo about such things, that's all.

The most interesting tale is about the time the ancient ones of great stature from the west came to live near them. Very interesting story, although there's not much more to it than that. But it hints at an American people we know nothing of today.

As I'm sure you know, the Cherokee/Challakee/Tallaghe are an indian nation we are unsure about the heritage of today, even though they maintained their oral history better than most. There are several indian nations that, as you seem to hint at, play into this mystery somewhere. Know about the 8 foot tall skeletons which were found in some Mississippian/Hopewell Mounds? This has been buried, and listed as myth today. Any idea why the scientific community would bury evidence in order to promote a false theory? They are ignoring Indian stories on the subject in order to do this after all.
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« Reply #183 on: Aug 31st, 2010, 6:26pm »

Mr. Icepick, welcome back, not only do I have a idea, my thought on the matter, makes so much cents to me, it is self-evident, land claims, Ancient land claims, the FED does not own the US in a court of law, the HOPI and all their tribes do, this is why, in my humble opinion, politicians will not do much about emigration, because the HOPI and their tribes made land claims in stone, a very long time ago, and if their were no stones to mark their path, they made mounds, I AM sure, I will enjoy reading the rest of the HOPI mythology, and if there is something above keeping score, might want to
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« Reply #184 on: Aug 31st, 2010, 9:45pm »

Oh the Hopi didn't build the mounds, but they did build greater things I am sure. I believe that they were probably in on the Chaco Canyon type of dwellings. But the mound people were somebody else. The Indians have legends that would give us a clue who, but nobody listens.

It's just like the Cherokee. They lived in towns with houses. Not villages with tepees. And they had trade routes, an organized military, and diplomatic envoys to make certain it all worked. But the federal government doesn't tell us this. They don't want anybody to believe that an Indian Nation of such sophistication existed. The Indians were a people emerging from the stone age, there's no denying that. But they weren't all wandering hunter-gatherers like the Sioux or Cheyenne. Some of them had the benefit of some sort of assistance, just like the Europeans once had. Wouldn't it be interesting to know where that assistance came from?

But they have one other thing which the Europeans have as well. Stories about 8 to 10 foot people who often had 6 fingers and toes per appendage. Their version was around much more recent, but I believe they were one and the same. Those who this thread is about. But not mythology by any means. Not too long ago we had evidence of this, but apparently it has disappeared to somewhere. Probably that American version of the Vatican, the Smithsonian Institution. At any rate, they seem to be getting the credit for the vanishing artifacts. They are the ones calling them mythology if that means anything to you.

By the way; many tribes say the mound people were huge, with blonde and red hair a lot of the time. Don't you find that interesting? Has a ring of familiarity, does it not?

Oh, the latest in my Aryan search:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans
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« Reply #185 on: Sep 1st, 2010, 05:43am »

Mr. Icepick, I understand the Myth of the HOPI and ALL their tribes have been labeled a myth for a reason, they were told by their guide not to use their powers on other peoples and a strange people would come and take their land, they were to remain humble and to stick to the universal perfect plan, some of the tribes did not, just like other Humans all around the world, they lost their way, I have yet to read the bulk of their history about NEPHILIM, but they did say if they had no stone to mark their path they built mounds, are you saying no mound was ever built by a HOPI tribe, cause they claim they went north to a wall of ice, west to the ocean, east to the ocean, south to Mexico, anyway I get the feeling we will get to see who had helped the HOPI and ALL the other people of planet Earth, for some reason the name METATRON pops into the crown of my head, and he may bring friends.
It is sad that so many artifacts come up missing not to be seen for many years, the ones who hide the truth are to blame for so many present day problems, this seams to be done so some stay in power for their own greedy wealth, it is my idea that if people knew we ALL are a part of something SUPER COLOSSAL, the powers to be, would not be, that's my song, just not sure what color my flute is wink
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« Reply #186 on: Sep 1st, 2010, 06:15am »

do these colors match?
white and black=Christian/Hebrew/Islam
red and yellow=Buddhism/Hinduism/Hopi
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« Reply #187 on: Sep 1st, 2010, 6:43pm »

Let's put this a different way. The mound builders utilized metallurgy. They appear to have been an offshoot of the older "copper culture" from the Great Lakes region.

Now, here is the interesting part. Some Indian Chiefs possessed very old copper artifacts. Very old. But did any tribe or nation work metals? No. This is a technology no peoples who ever developed it has lost, it's far too important.

Therefore, I am forced to conclude thus: no tribe or nation was ever mound builders. However, they OBVIOUSLY KNEW the people who were. This is one science has blown. There is one very interesting piece of missing history here. Remember what I said about it being so strange that North American History having a missing chunk? In my opinion, this is that chunk. It equates to a part of European/Asian History from about 10k to 12,000 years ago. But on this continent it took place within the last 4,000 years.

That is why I feel that it is of the highest interest. It's recent enough to track. And I'm willing to bet the story is nearly identical to the European/Asian tale. Figure this one out and we just might know both stories. Which appears to be missing on both accounts.

That is why this has been my quest for one very long time. It reaches just that much further back into our history. Possibly far enough to figure out what the Atlantis Legend is based on, but don't quote me on that.

But this limb I will go out on. Human history regarding technology is far older than we're being told.

How much older?

http://stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient.Civ_Technol/021008.1750000yr.bridge.html

I truly do not know. But there is much out there left to be discovered which I would love to know about.
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« Reply #188 on: Sep 1st, 2010, 10:10pm »

BTW MOKSHA; the colors? I don't really get it. Do they equate as the ultimate opposites to the respective cultures?
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« Reply #189 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 05:28am »

the HOPI creation myth says, four separate color of people were created, white, black, red, yellow, I have been wondering if all 4 have the NEPHILIM story some where in their history, I have also wondered for a long time about color and bone structure, I am not sure anyone can make me think this differences are due to where they live.
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« Reply #190 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 10:41am »

on Sep 1st, 2010, 6:43pm, icepick wrote:
Let's put this a different way. The mound builders utilized metallurgy. They appear to have been an offshoot of the older "copper culture" from the Great Lakes region.

Now, here is the interesting part. Some Indian Chiefs possessed very old copper artifacts. Very old. But did any tribe or nation work metals? No. This is a technology no peoples who ever developed it has lost, it's far too important.

Therefore, I am forced to conclude thus: no tribe or nation was ever mound builders. However, they OBVIOUSLY KNEW the people who were. This is one science has blown. There is one very interesting piece of missing history here. Remember what I said about it being so strange that North American History having a missing chunk? In my opinion, this is that chunk. It equates to a part of European/Asian History from about 10k to 12,000 years ago. But on this continent it took place within the last 4,000 years.

That is why I feel that it is of the highest interest. It's recent enough to track. And I'm willing to bet the story is nearly identical to the European/Asian tale. Figure this one out and we just might know both stories. Which appears to be missing on both accounts.

That is why this has been my quest for one very long time. It reaches just that much further back into our history. Possibly far enough to figure out what the Atlantis Legend is based on, but don't quote me on that.

But this limb I will go out on. Human history regarding technology is far older than we're being told.

How much older?

http://stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient.Civ_Technol/021008.1750000yr.bridge.html

I truly do not know. But there is much out there left to be discovered which I would love to know about.


Hi Ice smiley

If you haven't already done so, you might want to read Michael Cremo's "Forbidden Archeology". It's a fascinating read!
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« Reply #191 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 7:20pm »

Thanks SEEKER, I was interested in what other folks had to say about what was, the self-evident truth, will be, right.
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« Reply #192 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 8:31pm »

I think the only differences are in the people themselves MOKSHA, where they live probably has little to do with it.

I know for a fact that they all have their Nephilim legends, they just come under a variety of names, that's all. In fact, every long standing culture has their giant legends, don't they? You just have to avoid the 5 mile high versions for the accurate tales. The ones about fierce warriors that were built like oversized NFL linemen.
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« Reply #193 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 8:37pm »

Cremo has a lot of interesting ideas Seeker. The guy learned to think outside of the box somewhere. There aren't that many of us, are there?

But that's what makes our corner of the world a little lonely at times. Yet it's the only way you're ever going to come up with some of the answers in my opinion. Just like everyone else, we have our importance too.
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« Reply #194 on: Sep 2nd, 2010, 8:46pm »

But I notice that you zeroed in on my posting of the Ramayana Bridge. I like to toss that one out there. It takes a specific kind of person to have an open enough mind to even be willing to consider that one.

Have an opinion on it? Mine is troubled and pained. I don't know what to make of it. It goes against everything I have learned, and yet, there it is. Exactly as described. Fascinating, exciting, and yet almost terrifying, isn't it?
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