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« Reply #90 on: Jul 10th, 2010, 9:42pm »

Hi there PlanosLie:

You say you're writing about this subject? In that case, I'm most interested to see what you post about it. If you're writing about it, you're sure to have done some healthy research on it.
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« Reply #91 on: Jul 11th, 2010, 08:47am »

Mr. Icepick, I have been working on a possible new principle, the Bible seams to be more complicated then any human mind can comprehend, I would of put my possible new principle aside and called it silly nonsense, if I could find fault with it, I have tried, I am still searching for any fault re: this possible new principle, so for the first time within this forum I will disagree with the thought that they had made mistakes when copying, I think the mistakes maybe with the understanding, they wrote what they understood, keep in mind, the code seams to govern over all that has been written in any language, I find it possible the contradictions we all see, are to separate the light from the dark, or from the ones who understand and from the ones who don"t.
Genesis 1:14 - 1:18
And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth." and it was so. God made two great lights- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:26 uses 3 separate words in 13 total, I find this pattern, a sign, male and female he created them, no mention of Adam and Eve yet, are the male and female the Cherubim? and was Cains wife also?
to subdue it. rule over the fish, birds, and every living thing that moves on the ground.
Male and Female, might there be a difference between, Female and woman, cause woman comes from Adam, cause there is no suitable helper, maybe there is more here then any one thought, just my pondering.
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xx Re: Who were the Nephilim?
« Reply #92 on: Jul 11th, 2010, 12:02pm »

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First of all, the word giants was an early mistranslation when the Bible was originally translated from Hebrew to ?Latin?. Not certain about that, but I am certain that it was the Catholics who were doing the translating. Most likely the mistake was made because the Hebrew word for giant (which I can't remember precisely right now) was extremely similar.


A short breakdown about the translation of nephilim (plural of nephı̂yl) and how most English Bibles translated it giant. The Septuagint (figure A.) translated the Tanach (OT), from Hebrew to Greek between 300-200 B.C. When they did so, they translated "nephilim" as "gigantes". Most English versions of the Bible translate from the LXX "giants" over the Hebrew "nephilim". The Latin Vulgate (figure B.) also translated nephilim as "gigantes".


A. (LXX) Genesis 6:4 οἱ δὲ γίγαντες ἦσαν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις ἐκείναις καὶ μετ᾿ ἐκεῖνο, ὡς ἂν εἰσεπορεύοντο οἱ υἱοὶ τοῦ θεοῦ πρὸς τὰς θυγατέρας τῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ ἐγεννῶσαν ἑαυτοῖς· ἐκεῖνοι ἦσαν οἱ γίγαντες οἱ ἀπ᾿ αἰῶνος, οἱ ἄνθρωποι οἱ ὀνομαστοί.

B. (Vulgate) Gen 6:4 gigantes autem erant super terram in diebus illis postquam enim ingressi sunt filii Dei ad filias hominum illaeque genuerunt isti sunt potentes a saeculo viri famosi

C. (KJV) Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

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« Reply #93 on: Jul 11th, 2010, 12:16pm »

on Jul 10th, 2010, 9:40pm, icepick wrote:
Hey there Seeker:

Yeah, I'm getting a lot more to think about from this thread. Other people's input always helps to see things from a different angle. I love it!


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« Reply #94 on: Jul 11th, 2010, 3:37pm »

The translation, may have something to do with the Greeks removing the number 6 from their Alphabet, moving from a 13 month Luna sch. to a 12 month solar sch.
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« Reply #95 on: Jul 12th, 2010, 01:51am »

on Jul 11th, 2010, 3:37pm, MOKSHA wrote:
The translation, may have something to do with the Greeks removing the number 6 from their Alphabet, moving from a 13 month Luna sch. to a 12 month solar sch.
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Can you expound on that please? Thanks...
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« Reply #96 on: Jul 12th, 2010, 05:45am »

Plan-os-Lie, I am not sure I have the skills to explain totally, I am a student of Bible code, I can't read Hebrew, so I was looking for a code that would work in English, I have found something that I can't find any fault with, I also do not have all the answers yet, but in my research of old language, I remember seeing a chart Hebrew/Greek and the Greek had the 6 missing which moved lots of stuff.
ABC=123 example GOD=G=7+O=15+D=4, 7+15+4=26
hope this helped with your question of expound on THAT
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MW=12:21 in Greek
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« Reply #97 on: Jul 12th, 2010, 05:55am »

...the Greeks removing the number 6 from their Alphabet...

As 6 (six) is a numeral and not part of the alphabet Greek (alpha to Omega) I don't see what you are trying to get at here. Please explain.

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« Reply #98 on: Jul 12th, 2010, 06:29am »

Ava, to put it simply, I may have made a connection, with numbers and the Alphabet, I don't know how else to explain.
The 13th sign= Ophiuchus
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« Reply #99 on: Jul 12th, 2010, 07:16am »

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Plan-os-Lie, I am not sure I have the skills to explain totally, I am a student of Bible code, I can't read Hebrew...


What do you think about this scholar that does read Hebrew? According to him the Bible codes are false---> http://www.michaelsheiser.com/nonfictionbookpageBCM1.htm
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« Reply #101 on: Jul 13th, 2010, 05:51am »

Plan-os-lie, as with ALL things, everyone has their perspective, I think being a skeptic is good but being closed minded slows the understanding of the unknown, we may never understand everything, but not to try, will make sure of this, I will try to explain what I have been working on, the numbers 1-7, are what I call, constants, 8-13 are what I call varying, with opposite influencing movement, these numbers have a separate symbolic meaning, I only use this code with names and places, early in this forum I posted the gene code, I have it up to 77.
The debunkers have their perspective and I would rather try to learn, then spend my time telling others they are wrong, besides how could ones thoughts be wrong just because they are different then someone else, I find that this separation of ones thoughts are suppose to be like this, not right and wrong but different, so you can have yours, just let me have mine, "SEE"
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« Reply #102 on: Jul 13th, 2010, 7:23pm »

This might help wink

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« Reply #103 on: Jul 13th, 2010, 8:48pm »

They are the fallen ones of Genesis.
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« Reply #104 on: Jul 14th, 2010, 03:17am »

PlanosLie:

Rephaim was the word I was looking for. References a race of giants in ancient Israel. It took a bit, but I finally remembered.

Nephilim has a few translations it seems. But they all translate to fallen in some way or other. Or rather those who came down as the Sumerians put it. Almost like the meaning of Annunaki. To the Hebrews it means those who fell down, or something like that.

But then, there also seems to be a problem in translation from one discipline to the next. Methinks I need to talk to our linguistics prof at the local college. She's pretty good, so maybe she can shed some light onto all the disagreement here. It must be murder for you, trying to write something about it and run into this mess.
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