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« Reply #30 on: Sep 6th, 2015, 11:27pm »

CLIFFICLE,

YA GOT ME SCRATCHIN MY HEAD HERE...

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"(Love and Blessing ... ... ... ... now we have the challenge of restoring confidence to the American people that certain rac** of people will attempt to attack by promoting suicide and mass murder, and by specifically using their positions in the chains of command and in the public trust to kill people, sometimes it is necessary to phrase these things bluntly until we can gain an actionable understanding of what needs to be done)"

POINT OF CLARIFICATION ~ I'M THINKIN IT WOULD BE PRUDENT IF YOU WOULD EXPOUND UPON THE ABOVE...

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« Reply #31 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 10:35am »

Clifficle, actually I've no idea if the following tallies with your eschatological theories, it's just something I came across while googling some of the terms used in your posts. Hope you like diagrams!




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Might I prevail on you to look through the 3 images above, and check whether you agree (wholly, partially or not at all!) with their past/present/future timelines? This almost certainly would be too much to ask from anyone without your interests and background. I manage to make some sense of them BECAUSE I just spent some time reading YOUR STUFF. smiley

The source for this version of things to come is a piece by Luis B. Vega, read here.

Looking forward to your comment. There's a few questions I will be asking to further my understanding.


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« Reply #32 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 11:05am »

on Sep 1st, 2015, 11:24am, Clifficle wrote:
The Gospel provides us amazing detailed descriptions of the End of the Church Age, in at least three detailed Accounts:

1. Roswell UFO Incident 1947: Malachi 4:1-5 and hebrews 7:9-12

2. Betty Andreasson Alien Abduction 1967: Isiah 7:6-9 and 2Chronicles 28:7-9

3. Third Roswell involving the Antichrist 2015: Jeremiah 51:5-9 and Zechariah 9:13-15


First of some questions for ya. Seems you are applying a form of numerology for the above findings, Clifficle.

Could you explain how you do this, exactly?

For a minor sidenote, I assume that when you use the word Gospel, you are not referring to the 'good news' (as many Evangelicals are wont to do), but as meaning the Holy Scripture = Bible?


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« Reply #33 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 11:29am »

on Sep 2nd, 2015, 12:28pm, Clifficle wrote:
The Gospel states, that Moses is seen as the Father, and Elias (God) is no longer seen as the Father. The Antichrist takes the position of Christ to some degree, Hebrews 1:3-5 and Exodus 34:29-30, proclaims that Christ choose an Angel to serve as his "Express Image". Then we find in Exodus that Moses is immediately seen as the "Father of the Children, instead of God". How do we authenticate this position of the Gospel with "Zero Fallibility"? The Gospel calls the "Two Witnesses" at first, "Moses and Elias" (Matt. 17:2-3 and Rev. 11:3-4), then the Gospel changes the reference to the "Two Witnesses" as "Abaddon and Apollyon". God or Elias is no longer there, now Moses is a picture of the Father, and Jesus is a picture of Mose's Son. The Gospel does this because Jesus Christ does not come under the Authority of the Holy Spirit ... ... ... ... Jesus Christ is the Gateway to Heaven, so he has elected an Angel or Moses as the Gateway to the New Universe. This is done hyperdimensionally, Moses does not supersede the authority of Jesus Christ, but the Gospel is indicating a Shift in some hyperdimensional argument. (Most Christian's shutdown at this ideal, because they want this creation and this earth to have some redemptive value and it does not, the Gospel indicates this by describing Moses as the Father, and Jesus as his son, because Jesus is abandoning, the premises of the Gospel to give Satan the Promise, that is how Christian should understand their Gospel, but they are encouraged not to reach this conclusion, unfortunately).


Irreverently put the above at first glance comes across as a Divine Muppet Show. (I'm among that minority of Christians who do not shutdown on general principle. Best way to LEARN NEW SCHTUFF, Clifficle!) Moses the father of Jesus, Jesus stepping away from the Word so Satan is given "the Promise"? Also: God (=Elias?) no longer is the Father? Finally: Moses and Elias suddenly have turned into Abaddon and Apollyon (the latter off the top of my head powerful Princes from Hell)?! (My point of criticism: you seem to treat persons in the Bible account not as unique individuals, but more like muppets to be given identities at will by the hand of the Muppet Player.)

Cliff.... talk to me. How did you arrive at such unusual method of substitution / metaphorical reasoning? Not saying you are wrong. Just explain it to me please, help make sense of this.


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« Reply #34 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 12:51pm »

on Sep 7th, 2015, 10:35am, purr wrote:
Clifficle, actually I've no idea if the following tallies with your eschatological theories, it's just something I came across while googling some of the terms used in your posts. Hope you like diagrams!


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(Left) “Supernova” Pictograph, Chaco Canyon, NM, believed to mark an astronomical event in 1054. (Right) Circle Petroglyph, c. 1300–1500, Galisteo Basin. There are a vast number of petroglyphs in the basin, ranging from densely complex to “minimal,” like this one. http://www.papermonument.com/web-only/from-undermining/

End Time Tetrad Clock

9/11/2001 - 9/11/2015 ... (Amos 3:12-14, Three Buildings Collapse (two legs and an ear), to announce Star Wormwood's overtake of the 14th Generation (in 14 Years), Matt. 1:17/Gen. 10:11 says, from 9/11/2001 (Nineveh or 9/11) there will be 14 years until Babylon is thrown down (the last 14th Generation).

9/23/1994 - 9/23/2015 ... 2000 years from the Solstice relative to the Birth of Jesus and then 21 Years to complete all 50 Jubilees (Mark 5:13 and Exodus 30:12-15 with explicit declaration about Jesus being baptized in 23 A.D. John 1:32 and Luke 3:23 (Jesus 30 years old means 23 A.D.), in addition to explicit declaration about 49 Jubilees only, and then a final 50th Jubilee (50 Generations of Genesis 18, and Lev. 25:8-10).

10/18/1982 - 9/26/2015 ... Antichrist 12000 Days, 30 Days, then Death at beginning of "3 and 1/2 Days" (more correctly the Antichrist dies when the "3 Days of Darkness" begins, not the 12 Hours, John 11:9, Matt. 12:40, Rev. 11:11). (12000 Days, or 33 years, to the "Barley Harvest of Revealing of September", 1Chron11:15-17 .... 12000 Days of the Antichrist Life Span, 2Samuel17:1, then Solomon's "Barley Harvest" is revealed in a month, 1Kings2:11-13, finally the "3 and 1/2 Days of Darkness", Jeremiah 33:20-22 ... matching the pattern of Revelation which declares 12000 for Joseph, the "Month of Healing", and the "3 and 1/2 Days of Darkness".

12/21/2012 - 9/29/2015 ... "Twelve Tribes" must be added to complete the "Twenty Generations of Gen. 5 and 11". Design detail of Creation identifying with "Twelve". Rev. 9:14-15, The Galactic Alignment in multiples of 12 to the completion of the 6th SEAL, at which time the Seventh SEAL is opened (12/21/2012, then 12 Equinoxical Periods, then 12 Days from the Solstice (9/11), then 12 Hour multiples to 9/29/2015. Matthew 10:1-5 declares James is Abaddon and Apollyon, at the Nineth Apostle (9/11), matching the declaration from Rev. 9:14-15 that states 9/11 is the beginning of creation's shift that is descriptive of the SIXTH SEAL. ("Zero Fallibility").

Beginning with the Fall of Babylon
EZEKIEL 9:11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which [had] the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

Beginning with the Birth of Christ
EZEKIEL 23:9 Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.

Beginning with the Birth of the Antichrist
EZEKIEL 26:9 And he shall set engines of war against thy walls, and with his axes he shall break down thy towers.

Beginning with the (final) Synchronization of Creation
EZEKIEL 29:9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I [am] the LORD: because he hath said, The river [is] mine, and I have made [it].

on Sep 7th, 2015, 11:05am, purr wrote:
First of some questions for ya. Seems you are applying a form of numerology for the above findings, Clifficle.

Could you explain how you do this, exactly?

For a minor sidenote, I assume that when you use the word Gospel, you are not referring to the 'good news' (as many Evangelicals are wont to do), but as meaning the Holy Scripture = Bible?


1947 Roswell + the "Twenty Generations of Gen. 5 and 11" that produces Joseph
1967 Betty Andreasson + the "Twenty Generations of Revelation 9:16" that produces Joseph
2015 Third Roswell = 48 Years, a Year each for Ezekiel from 1967 Betty Andreasson ... ... ... Ezekiel 48:21 declares that the "Twenty Generations are Doubled" or "Twenty Plus One" because Joseph is not produced in the traditional way, so roughly doubling the years both from Roswell and Betty Andreasson, we arrive at 2015.

The Gospel gives us the complete equation used to produce "Joseph the Blessing", on three accounts, Genesis, Revelation and Exekiel (is implied). Previously the numerological association was very simply the relation of numeral figures to the gospel's declaration of the "End of the Church Age", in at least three instance, the gospel gives a near perfect account of what that entails. The final resolutions of Aaron and Judah, and the resolutions attributed to both "Blood Sacrifice", and "Reconciliation by Fire". (Gospel = Bible + Materials that provide clarity to the Bible's Declarations, in the sense as we've used this statement, not to reprove or correct but only to provide clarity to the Bible's Positions).

on Sep 7th, 2015, 11:29am, purr wrote:
Irreverently put the above at first glance comes across as a Divine Muppet Show. (I'm among that minority of Christians who do not shutdown on general principle. Best way to LEARN NEW SCHTUFF, Clifficle!) Moses the father of Jesus, Jesus stepping away from the Word so Satan is given "the Promise"? Also: God (=Elias?) no longer is the Father? Finally: Moses and Elias suddenly have turned into Abaddon and Apollyon (the latter off the top of my head powerful Princes from Hell)?! (My point of criticism: you seem to treat persons in the Bible account not as unique individuals, but more like muppets to be given identities at will by the hand of the Muppet Player.)

Cliff.... talk to me. How did you arrive at such unusual method of substitution / metaphorical reasoning? Not saying you are wrong. Just explain it to me please, help make sense of this.


I SAMUEL 17:12 Now David [was] the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehemjudah, whose name [was] Jesse; and he had eight sons: and the man went among men [for] an old man in the days of Saul.
I CHRONICLES 2:15 Ozem the sixth, David the seventh: (No Eight Son is Named of Jesse in Chronicle's Genealogy)
I SAMUEL 16:10 Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these. (The Lord Claims Seven, but does not Claim the Eighth)


("Zero Fallibility")
First Day of Creation = Claimed
Second Day of Creation = Claimed
Third Day of Creation = Claimed
Fourth Day of Creation = Claimed
Fifty Day of Creation = Claimed
Sixth Day of Creation = Claimed
Seventh Day of Creation = Claimed
Eighth Day of Creation = Not Claimed by God

The "Eighth" Day of Creation begins when, the 150 Days of Star Wormwood Begins, when God literally appoints Moses as the Messiash, or as the Father to the Children, the Remnant that Remains. God issued this command to Moses when he commanded Moses to say "LET MY PEOPLE GO". Then, Jesus Declares that Moses will be My Father, Matt. 24:37-38 and Heb. 1:1-5 (God is speaking to Moses). The Gospel declares that the "NO MAN OF JESSE'S EIGHTH SON, KNOWS THE HOUR OF THE LORD". ... ... ... ... The "Two Witnesses" of Moses and Elias (God) must come under the Authority of the Holy Spirit ... God does not, Jesus does not, of the same, only Moses does, so the name is changed to Apollyon and Abaddon, the Gospel or God is not invalidated, they have changed a series of hyperdimensional relationship.

(Most Christians have chosen to end their lives, so denying this position of the gospel is a form of suicide, this is perfectly acceptable, as the Church has taken up the position of suicide, now Aaron will be deceased in 15 days from 9/11/2001, right now they have 19 days until they are deceased)

on Sep 6th, 2015, 11:27pm, ZETAR wrote:
"(Love and Blessing ... ... ... ... now we have the challenge of restoring confidence to the American people that certain rac** of people will attempt to attack by promoting suicide and mass murder, and by specifically using their positions in the chains of command and in the public trust to kill people, sometimes it is necessary to phrase these things bluntly until we can gain an actionable understanding of what needs to be done)"

POINT OF CLARIFICATION ~ I'M THINKIN IT WOULD BE PRUDENT IF YOU WOULD EXPOUND UPON THE ABOVE...


I've issued the challenge for the Church and the Rac** facing the end of their lives to kill the Antichrist, as a snare to end their lives the moment the Antichrist is deceased when the "3 Days of Darkness" begins, with no signs from creation or of euthansia. They've answered already this challenge. We've discussed how the Aliens report this conclusion in the "Urantia Book" in a previous discussion, so now we will briefly discuss the gospel: Ruth4:5-8 and 2Thessalonians2:8, God declares explicitly he will invalidate all signs based on the attempted murder and murder of the Antichrist. This has already been achieved by Aaron if there was ever a reasonable doubt they would kill enough. I've only recently encouraged them to use Genetic Dan to kill in secret which they've done. They will die in 15 days with the Antichrist (implied Murder Suicide from 9/11/2015, for the rest you must keep watch).
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« Reply #35 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 5:13pm »

PURR,

TO WIT:

"Cliff.... talk to me. How did you arrive at such unusual method of substitution / metaphorical reasoning? Not saying you are wrong. Just explain it to me please, help make sense of this."

THAT DRIP ~ DRIP ~ DRIP...

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CLIFFICLE ~ THERE STILL EXISTS SOME INTERPRETIVE ISSUES WHICH LEADS ONE (WELL AT LEAST SHOULD) TO QUESTION YOUR >>> DENOTATION/CONNOTATION <<< AND WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE PERCENT ERROR IN YOUR SPECULATION.

TO WIT:

"The Aliens have corrected their position to 9/29/2015, the first day of the "3 Days of Darkness", when the messiah comes under the "Astronomical Facts", or under the Holy Spirit. What are the Aliens teachings? The aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church, ending any signs are forms of euthanasia until the antichrist is deceased on 9/29/2015."

AN INTERESTING QUESTION WHICH NECESSITATES THE INQUIRY.

TO WIT:

" The aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church"

1) HOW DO YOU KNOW ALIEN TEACHING(S)?

2) ARE YOU SAYING ALIENS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE AND THE SAME/ALLIED/ANGELS ~ OR?

3) AT WHAT TIME/ERA/EPOCH/IF ANY "aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church" DID ALIENS IDENTIFY WITH THE CHURCH?

OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW WE'RE A CURIOUS LOT A LA CASEBOOK CAFE' ~ YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED!

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« Reply #36 on: Sep 7th, 2015, 11:50pm »

on Sep 7th, 2015, 5:13pm, ZETAR wrote:
PURR,

TO WIT:

"Cliff.... talk to me. How did you arrive at such unusual method of substitution / metaphorical reasoning? Not saying you are wrong. Just explain it to me please, help make sense of this."

THAT DRIP ~ DRIP ~ DRIP...

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CLIFFICLE ~ THERE STILL EXISTS SOME INTERPRETIVE ISSUES WHICH LEADS ONE (WELL AT LEAST SHOULD) TO QUESTION YOUR >>> DENOTATION/CONNOTATION <<< AND WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE PERCENT ERROR IN YOUR SPECULATION.


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regions like ours are constantly being formed. The new regions appear as tiny, microscopic bubbles and immediately start to grow. The bubbles keep growing without bound; in the meantime they are driven apart by the inflationary expansion http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/multiverse-the-case-for-parallel-universe/


Back to 9/11 so soon?
JOB 9:1 Then Job answered and said,
JOB 9:2 I know [it is] so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
JOB 9:3 If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.


The Answer is, all of Time is Still Flowing from the beginning of Creation to the End of Time. There's no real past, no real present, and no real future. There is what God deems pertinent in his collapsing Judgment Program, and this takes the form of the Present in our limited understanding. ... ... ... ... God creates many New Universes in order to shutdown apart of the Process of Time and Dimension, just enough to see if mankind is being faithful spiritually. The UFO phenomenon is typically present during great losses of life, during great tragedies, during great war, and always surrounding the Antichrist. ... ... ... ... God creates the UFO or Multiverse in how many instances he desires in order to eliminate a degree of his "Word" or of his presence. You've asked about 9/11/2015? God allows the earth to give testimony, but God can silence the heavens so that creation is forbidden to give testimony. (there will be a nightly walk before 9/11/2015, and on 9/11/2015 the Antichrist will be at the Arrot Terminal after dark, so that the killing these people do to themselves and the public does not contribute to this authority before he is deceased in a few days).

on Sep 7th, 2015, 5:13pm, ZETAR wrote:
TO WIT:

"The Aliens have corrected their position to 9/29/2015, the first day of the "3 Days of Darkness", when the messiah comes under the "Astronomical Facts", or under the Holy Spirit. What are the Aliens teachings? The aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church, ending any signs are forms of euthanasia until the antichrist is deceased on 9/29/2015."

AN INTERESTING QUESTION WHICH NECESSITATES THE INQUIRY.

TO WIT:

" The aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church"

1) HOW DO YOU KNOW ALIEN TEACHING(S)?

2) ARE YOU SAYING ALIENS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE AND THE SAME/ALLIED/ANGELS ~ OR?

3) AT WHAT TIME/ERA/EPOCH/IF ANY "aliens are teaching that the Holy Spirit can no longer identify with the Church" DID ALIENS IDENTIFY WITH THE CHURCH?


A portion of this universe articulated itself in the "other or new universe", at the time Abraham the homosapien was created, when the operation of the Holy Spirit was restricted. Because of the reconcliiatory behavior, God allowed the aliens to bare witness, and they left a spiritual footprint in the earth based on their activities, of creating the monuments. This behavior ultimately provided the breeding grounds for the introduction of the 6th Day of Creation Moses, as a representation of "Satan's" reconciliation to "Joseph the Blessing". This was only acted out some thousands of years after creation itself, after the introduction of the Homosapien. Now going from the Birth of Christ, which was like a Second Creation level event. The Antichrist is once again introduced, but this time not as a representative of the reconciliation, as the final element in the reconciliation of "Satan" to "Joseph the Blessing".

The Holy Spirit is no different then Jesus in the sense that Jesus was articulated as God, to facilitate the process of translation for a limited number of souls. Now the Holy Spirit is designed to articulate the process of translation for a much greater number of souls, however, Moses the Antichrist must become the articulation of the Holy Spirit in order to facilitate this process. This does not happen until the 5 Months begins. There is a very small branch of Heavenly Salvation taking place, but much more so, many souls are being weeded out, until the judgment is completed.

The UFO Guardian diagram was not just written to the Antichrist as a reproof, it was written to the faithful as a reproof of themselves. In less than, so many days from now, the small portion of human life left remaining in the USA, will be critiqued/amended in some spiritual way based on in part on the method, (rather preference to die) of the people facing the end of their lives chose to kill themselves by being blind to the truth or by outright killing themselves, this will be constituted as a mental illness and the heavenly powers will act to facilitate this, contributing to the potential that remains in the USA, or to the Separatist Inheritance* of Judah.
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The Aliens indicate they will not use any of their influence to correct the Antichrist in revealing any signs before he is deceased, they've achieved this goal by not identifying him as a person until he is allowed to express himself as the 6th Day of Creation, we've used that fact of their declaration to attack the credibility of this discussion. ("Zero Fallibility" in having No Credibility, sure people will say that the short space they have until they are deceased, that is perfectly ok).

Previously we discovered the Antichrist is a picture of the First Resurrection (Express Image of Jesus), and the Second Resurrection (Eighth Son of Jesse)

II KINGS 24:8 Jehoiachin [was] eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name [was] Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
II CHRONICLES 36:9 Jehoiachin [was] eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did [that which was] evil in the sight of the LORD.
ISAIAH 38:19 The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I [do] this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth.


Ezekiel 48:35, Joseph is attributed to 18 Days, 9/11/2015 to 9/29/2015 (following Genesis and Revelation's declaration of Joseph). Now God uses this to rebuke the Churches under the "Two Witnesses" (the living, the living). Then God uses Joseph once again to rebuke those that remain for the 8th Day of Creation, or 150 days of Star Wormwood. Naturally, this does not mean there will be a sign on 9/11/2015, because God is dealing with the "Two Witnesses", as Moses and Elias(God himself), not as the "Two Witnesses without God" directly impacting them.

I've indicated we need to keep watch, because many things are going to happen, but also at the same time. We revealed that based on the murder this relationship in society represents to the potential, there will be nothing much to challenge their position of suicide. (so we collectively need to be faithful their final days of life, the Antichrist is doing his part by encouraging and providing the opportunity for these people to continue the attempted murder and murder, he expects many of you to continue to do the same, once again you must keep watch).
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« Reply #37 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 02:04am »

Thanks Clifficle so far. I think now I understand some of your methodology (with the caveat calculus never was my strong suit!) to arrive at your eschatological sequences/timelines.

I acknowledge there's a DEGREE of reasoning/logic to your position. Now I have to think about anything which does not fit rolleyes. Mull things over kinda.. Weakest element coming to mind is your use of BIBLE VERSE NUMBERS to equate for real world dates in our modern calendar. Just sayin.. and mulling....

Nice (yet potentially harrowing) way to find the deal breaker is to (as you say) wait and see if by 29 September the Antichrist is in (full satanic) power!

Again: WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO PREPARE FOR ALL CONTINGENCIES? What do you personally believe (= not the same as what you predict!).

Will you stay with us to discuss all of this after September 29?

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« Reply #38 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 08:46am »

PURR,

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"acknowledge there's a DEGREE of reasoning/logic to your position. Now I have to think about anything which does not fit rolleyes"

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@ CLIFFICLE

"The Holy Spirit is no different then Jesus in the sense that Jesus was articulated as God"

THERE SEEMS TO BE TEACHINGS WHICH HAVE SAID JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD ~ "Jesus was articulated as God" ~ THEREFORE ONE MIGHT QUESTION ONE'S DESCRIPTION OF >>> "articulated as" <<< YOU MUST PARDON MY ATTEMPT AT SPECIFICTY cool

THIS JUCTURE BRINGS UP THE QUESTION IS/ARE THERE ANY OTHER (NON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN) RELIGIOUS TEXTS WHICH PARALLELS/SUPPORTS YOUR INSIGHT(S)?

I ASK THE ABOVE AS...OFTEN THERE ARE NUGGETS OF SIMILARITIES IN OTHERS FAITHS/RELIGIONS AND HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED QUESTION WHETHER YOU HAVE SOUGHT ADDITIONAL CONFIRMATION V.I.A. OTHER FAITHS?

OUR FLOCK A LA CASEBOOK CAFE' IS COMPRISED OF MANY UNIQUE POSTIONS ~ SOME WHEREIN RELIGION IS PART OF THEIR PERSONAL CONVICTION ~ OTHERS WHOM DO NOT ACCEPT SUCH ~ ALONG WITH THOSE WHOM REMAIN ~ AGNOSTIC/GNOSTOIC ~ ALL OF WHOM CONTRIBUTE TO THE NIRVANA OF CASEBOOK CAFE'...

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"days from now, the small portion of human life left remaining in the USA"

I'M TAKING COPIUOS NOTES AS TO YOUR POSITION AND OF COURSE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WHICH INDEED SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. NEVERTHELESS, MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE DEPENDENT ON YOUR INPUT PRIOR TO SAME. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE(S)!

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« Reply #39 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 12:16pm »

*sigh*.....I don't mean to denigrate the thread starter here or any of the fine (and well read) members on our forum, but this esoteric Biblical alien end time conspiracy stuff is one of the main reasons why so many on the 'outside' of the ufo phenomenon think that all those on the 'inside' are crazy.

It's fine for s**ts and giggles but when people start posting this stuff as if it's meaningful, imho all rationality and believability goes out the window.

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« Reply #40 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 12:32pm »

DRWU,

TO WIT:

"I don't mean to denigrate the thread"

WELL...THEN...LET IT PLAY OUT ~ cool

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xx Re: The End of the Church Age and Third Roswell*
« Reply #41 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 1:19pm »

I've long been on the fence about when and where it's appropriate to call BS. I think it's reasonable for Doc Wu or anybody else to voice concern. It's not necessarily trolling.

I'll admit one of the things that pushes my buttons, in general, is when direct questions are asked, yet subsequently met with evasive responses. I'm not a big fan of lots of cut and pasted rhetoric either, but I'm not the online etiquette police. People can of course post what they like.

In turn, though, I think I or others have an option to voice reasonable disagreement. For instance, I think some forms of fanaticism cross the line from relatively harmless into the area of poor taste, among other descriptions, when the claims begin to involve the dead, yet completely lack any valid evidence of the deaths being anything more than they were reported. For example:

on Sep 6th, 2015, 7:03pm, Clifficle wrote:
Mark 2:25-27 is a restatement of Lev. 26:7-9, in that the gospel tends some identification with the generations of man during the "Barley Harvest of Revealing in September":

1. Shane Montgomery
2. Austin Stephanos
3. Perry Cohen
4. Elise Lam
5. Beau Biden


The First time we spoke, we spoke to the Uncle of Shane Montgomery...


But carry on. I don't have to read it and all, the above just happen to be my opinions.

And just to be safe, I picked up some canned goods and a couple extra gallons of purified water for the upcoming reign of the Prince of Darkness. I hope the Internet doesn't go out.
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« Reply #42 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 2:05pm »

on Sep 8th, 2015, 02:04am, purr wrote:
Thanks Clifficle so far. I think now I understand some of your methodology (with the caveat calculus never was my strong suit!) to arrive at your eschatological sequences/timelines.

I acknowledge there's a DEGREE of reasoning/logic to your position. Now I have to think about anything which does not fit rolleyes. Mull things over kinda.. Weakest element coming to mind is your use of BIBLE VERSE NUMBERS to equate for real world dates in our modern calendar. Just sayin.. and mulling....

Nice (yet potentially harrowing) way to find the deal breaker is to (as you say) wait and see if by 29 September the Antichrist is in (full satanic) power!

Again: WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO PREPARE FOR ALL CONTINGENCIES? What do you personally believe (= not the same as what you predict!).

Will you stay with us to discuss all of this after September 29?


Moses is the 6th Day of Creation, Created as the "Express Image of Christ". (Man stops at the 5th, as Jonah and the Whale stated in Gen 1.21). So who was the intended target of all the extraterrestrials activities, as representative of a singular foot print, which attributed to his initial arrival as the Antichrist? So in this instance the Mayan Calendar can serve as a description of the arrival of Moses before the Pyramids, with the intent of delivering the Jewish people out of Egypt. 5127 Years the Length of the Mayan Calendar's Measurement Length - 3500 years ago (Exodus) = 1600 a Measurement of Moses (Rev. 14:19-20). In this context: we have previously declared the "Tetrad" of dates is 9/11/2001, 9/23/1994, 10/18/1982 and 12/21/2012. The unifier is the fact that, Moses is a picture of Jesus Christ, and the Aliens were allowed to bare witness of this through their activities culiminating in the 12/21/2012 to 9/29/2015 association (also concluded in the 112 Prophecy of Popes, 1012 days to this length).

There's a lesser pattern we can view yes

HEBREWS 11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
HEBREWS 11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
HEBREWS 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:
HEBREWS 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

1994 = End of 49 Jubilees, marking the final 50th Jubilee period of 21 Years (Harold Camping's 5/21)
2001 = Fall of the Twin Towers
2008 = 12th President of Alan Martin's Vision is Elected
2015 = Antichrist Reigns in Place of David

Hebrews 11:30-33 states there is 7 years between teach of these divisions and there is which concludes with the euthanasia of Genetic Dan the Lion and Aaron the enemy of God (Isiah 38:13-14, 1Kings13:24-26).

What I personally believe does not exactly follow these predictions, we've been making
JEREMIAH 26:18 Micah the Morasthite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah, and spake to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Zion shall be plowed [like] a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.
JEREMIAH 26:19 Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? did he not fear the LORD, and besought the LORD, and the LORD repented him of the evil which he had pronounced against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.


God tells Micah to challenge the people to end his life, at the same time God tells Micah to tell the people in so many days they are going to die according to the prophets. Based on the attempted murder and murder of Micah, these people are simply put down without being alerted, so it appears that Micah is a false prophet. But as soon as they attempt to kill Micah, God puts many of them down, and that is their sign. The Antichrist is going to die on 9/26/2015 when the "3 Days of Darkness" begins, at that time this equation is broken. Right now, this equation is established, the most that will happen between now and 9/26/2015 is God will stop restraining sin to the degree he is now, if anything at all. 9/29/2015 is simply the date the Antichrist returns to the Planet Earth to reign over what remains of the human life in the USA, 9/26/2015 is the date you need to watch for, as we originally stated, the value of the Antichrist's Lifespan should not be underplayed by any of this other information (this is apart of the challenge of Micah he is issuing to convict Aaron of death).

on Sep 8th, 2015, 08:46am, ZETAR wrote:
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"The Holy Spirit is no different then Jesus in the sense that Jesus was articulated as God"

THERE SEEMS TO BE TEACHINGS WHICH HAVE SAID JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD ~ "Jesus was articulated as God" ~ THEREFORE ONE MIGHT QUESTION ONE'S DESCRIPTION OF >>> "articulated as" <<< YOU MUST PARDON MY ATTEMPT AT SPECIFICTY cool

THIS JUCTURE BRINGS UP THE QUESTION IS/ARE THERE ANY OTHER (NON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN) RELIGIOUS TEXTS WHICH PARALLELS/SUPPORTS YOUR INSIGHT(S)?

I ASK THE ABOVE AS...OFTEN THERE ARE NUGGETS OF SIMILARITIES IN OTHERS FAITHS/RELIGIONS AND HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED QUESTION WHETHER YOU HAVE SOUGHT ADDITIONAL CONFIRMATION V.I.A. OTHER FAITHS?

OUR FLOCK A LA CASEBOOK CAFE' IS COMPRISED OF MANY UNIQUE POSTIONS ~ SOME WHEREIN RELIGION IS PART OF THEIR PERSONAL CONVICTION ~ OTHERS WHOM DO NOT ACCEPT SUCH ~ ALONG WITH THOSE WHOM REMAIN ~ AGNOSTIC/GNOSTOIC ~ ALL OF WHOM CONTRIBUTE TO THE NIRVANA OF CASEBOOK CAFE'...


The Urantia Books more correctly makes the assertion that Jesus was articulated from God as a Vessel. Based on the Gospel's claim that Melchisedek was ordained as a "High Priest" over the Creation of Abraham, in order to bless him, and Jesus Christ is the judge over man, the same as god. In the same sense, Jesus is specifically covered in additional detail in the Urantia Books. The Kolbrin Bible that appears to have attempted to do the same thing, and also connect Moses as a vessel of Articulation like Jesus, but only for the Holy Spirit. The account of the Kolbrin Bible is significantly damaged and erroneous, so the Urantia Books are more or less the issue of a refund for those stated positions which were damaged.

? God gave Moses two sets of commandments one to address Aaron, and one to address the Hebrews. God intended to reveal a form of his glory on earth, like in the days of the ancients, but because they kept killing Moses, God, ensured that Moses was revealed as the basis for destroying the first set of 10 commandments. Now God gave Moses the Antichrist today, not just the UFO Guardian Materials, but a declaration he has made to the Department of Homeland Security, the Catholic Church, and several USA Embassies, which has ended in not just a public apology but the payment of $200,000,000 for making the euthanasia of a few individuals necessary as a form of rebuke. God says "18 Days Joseph is used to Rebuke Aaron", before the Antichrist Reigns on the 8th Days of Creation" ... ... ... ... Moses the Antichrist has once again destroyed the first set of 10 Commandments, based on attempted murder and murder, this is completed.

on Sep 8th, 2015, 1:19pm, jjflash wrote:
In turn, though, I think I or others have an option to voice reasonable disagreement. For instance, I think some forms of fanaticism cross the line from relatively harmless into the area of poor taste, among other descriptions, when the claims begin to involve the dead, yet completely lack any valid evidence of the deaths being anything more than they were reported. For example:


Back to Roswell So Soon? The Antichrist has contacted the Department of Homeland Security, the Catholic Church, and several USA Embassies, and told them in so many way, great fire would fall from god and a hole would open up in the earth 15 days before his 12000th day of life. This has been achieved, and we are now past the 12000th day of his life. The Antichrist simply does not choose to disclose any further details about the events of 9/11/2015, 9/23/2015, 9/26/2015 or 9/29/2015 beyond what has been disclosed, at this level.
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« Reply #43 on: Sep 8th, 2015, 3:20pm »

on Sep 8th, 2015, 1:19pm, jjflash wrote:
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And just to be safe, I picked up some canned goods and a couple extra gallons of purified water for the upcoming reign of the Prince of Darkness. I hope the Internet doesn't go out.



I guess I better stock up too....just in case.
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« Reply #44 on: Sep 9th, 2015, 02:38am »

We are now 2 Days from 9/11/2015, wanted to touch on a few other points briefly

The First thing we wanted to say, lets go back to 9/11/2001 assuming you are the pilot of a falling commercial airliner, given the choice. Would you choose to A) Crash your Commercial Airlines in a residential neighborhood, or B) Crash your plane into an apartment complex. Maybe you don't have as much choice as you though you did, Maybe you can only choose which target you want to impact first, thus doing less damage to the subsequent target. Lets Continue:

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9. The eternal Isle is composed of a single form of materialization—stationary
systems of reality. This literal substance of Paradise is a homogeneous
organization of space potency not to be found elsewhere in all the wide universe of
universes. It has received many names in different universes, and the Melchizedeks
of Nebadon long since named it absolutum. This Paradise source material
is neither dead nor alive; it is the original nonspiritual expression of the First
Source and Center;it is Paradise, and Paradise is without duplicate.


Part 1
Book 11: The Eternal Isle of Paradise
Chapter 2: Nature of the Eternal Isle


I KINGS 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
II CHRONICLES 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
DEUTERONOMY 33:8 And of Levi he said, [Let] thy Thummim and thy Urim [be] with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, [and with] whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah;


Moses is the "Express Image of Jesus", Urantia is stating this same position, and using the name "Melchisedek" as a reference to "Paradise", means this cannot be a reference to Jesus, Jesus does not serve as the Antichrist (restating the position from Heb. 1:1-5). ... ... ... ... with that said, this is the third biblical contradiction we've touched on, and so far each of these contradictions Moses is the subject of inquiry. "Thummim and Urim", is being implied as another reference to Moses, serving as the Pharoah (thut-mose), then it describes Moses as a High Priest over the Hebrews (Moses acting as an articulation point for the New Universe, Eze. 47:19, Moses the Water of Strife the River to the New Sea).

1st reference to "Two Witnesses" = Thummin and Urim
2nd reference to "Two Witnesses" = Massah and Meribah

God is expressing the authority he is using in connection to the "Two Witnesses" first this is 40k, then this is reduced to 4k, this follows what we do understand about what's taking place, shifts in the hyperdimensional environment. Otherwise, "Urim and Thummin" are simply names for the utterances from heavenly beings, but in our context it is another description of Moses.

Pharoah is another name for the "Servant of the Lord", forget about the Human Waste that promotes its own suicide, or opportunistically kills itself or looks for opportunities to mimic and kill, its a phony. At some point in human history, Kings could only be "Servants of the Lord", that has changed as the salvation program has changed, as you've understood, there are different systems of measurement for salvation, that has taken different precedents at different points in human history. (Right now, we've challenged certain eth*** to eliminate themselves by targeting an individual, and this is still an effective means of resolution, now with that said, there should be no pride placed in this position, until after the events of 9/11/2015, which is estimated to begin between 8am and 9am EST, matching the original terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001).

Lets discourage the assassination of the 112th Pope, by issuing the challenge to assassinate the 112th Pope on 9/11/2015 (based on biblical and prophetic fact)

12/21/2012 to 9/29/2015 = 1012 for the 112 Pope Prophecy (Antichrist is Resurrected, and Aaron is deceased)
12/21/2012 to 9/26/2015 = 1009 for the 112 Pope Prophecy (Antichrist is deceased, and Aaron is deceased)
12/21/2012 to 9/11/2015 = 994 Coinciding with 1994 when the 50th and Final Jubilee Began

Matthew 10:1-5 states the "Two Witnesses", James (9th Apostle) of Alphaeus (1) and Andrew (1), are seen "OF THE TWELVE, not 112" with Samaria is seen in those passages. (You've attempted Murder in our Nightly walk last night, based on what happened, I'm making no direct associations, God has gave you that sign to illustrate that he is not going to do anything until the Antichrist is deceased). So we have language that shows us that God gave Isreal mercy when they put Aaron to death for his sin, now we must raise this question before it is to late, at the same time. We have "Zero Fallibilty because we have Zero Credibility". Now the gospel gives Moses an exorbitant amount of value for Satan, not for the Salvation Program (that is why Aaron chooses to die, with this truth, nobody will likely do anything to the Pope from now to the end of our limited time frame). After 9/11/2015 between the hours of 8am and 9am matching the original timeframe of the Twin Towers Attack, the Blood Sacrifice of the 112th Pope will mean nothing. Love and Blessings.
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