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« Reply #60 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 09:25am »

PURR,

TO WIT:

"Like ZETAR outlined in earlier posts, could you answer in a practical, realistic manner so simple people like myself can figure your meaning?"

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« Reply #61 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 09:33am »

on Sep 11th, 2015, 4:42pm, GhostofEd wrote:
Matthew 7:15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Wicked intentions are a part of it, GhostofEd, but here's the biblical litmus test:

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 AKJV

And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Prophetic verifiability: if at close of September the Antichrist plus 112th (Anti?)pope haven't burst upon the world scene, nor ARE WE ALL (actually 95%!) DEAD, we may establish that member Clifficle's interpretation of Prophesy/Eschatology has been in error.

I am smiling, yet with a little shiver....

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« Reply #62 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 10:04am »

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"Clifficle's interpretation of Prophesy/Eschatology"...WHILE CONSIDERING A PATTERN SUCH AS THIS TO BE MEANINGLESS >>> "Clifficle's" ~ "Prophesy/Eschatology" <<< JUZZZZ DIDN'T SEEM LOGICAL {IMHO} grin

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« Reply #63 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 11:08am »

on Sep 12th, 2015, 09:20am, jjflash wrote:
I'm reminded a little of Festinger and his study of the Seekers, but they had much less of a 'word salad' approach than our current e-prophet. I find myself mildly interested in the specific person or people behind this campaign (like, a few Internet friends, some lone guy and his bible interpretations or what?), if the communication discrepancies indicate broken English (or why all the gibberish and copy and paste rather than just engage in direct dialog?) and similar issues. Unfortunately, my previous experience with such purveyors of esoteric Armageddon give me no reason to think resolution would result from inquiries, which is why most people just pay no attention, of course.

I do sincerely hope the individual and anyone who may be in their circles are not overly distressed and in need of help not being sought. Such reasons are why, in my opinion, it is wise and responsible to encourage consultations with qualified professionals prior to engaging overzealous UFO organizations in what all too often turn into flights of fantasy, if not outright mentally unhealthy activity.


That about sums up my impression of this poster (or is that poseur) and thread , but you said it in a much more diplomatic fashion than I would have.


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« Reply #64 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 1:12pm »

on Sep 12th, 2015, 09:25am, ZETAR wrote:
"Like ZETAR outlined in earlier posts, could you answer in a practical, realistic manner so simple people like myself can figure your meaning?"

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"Zero Fallibility" - 9/23/2015 to 9/29/2015 = "Seven Rays/Seven Days"
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II KINGS 19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest [between] the cherubims, thou art the God, [even] thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
II KINGS 19:16 LORD, bow down thine ear, and hear: open, LORD, thine eyes, and see: and hear the words of Sennacherib, which hath sent him to reproach the living God.
II KINGS 19:35 And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they [were] all dead corpses.


185,000 / 625 = 296 ... ... ... ... (Flip the Numbers, 625=296, or:) ... ... ... ... 9/23 to 9/29. Or 9/23 to 9/26 God will resolve Aaron the Suckling Child, condemned by the "Blood Sacrifice" (Rev. 3:7, Matt. 24:36, All of Mankind will Know, All of the Heavens will Know, the Remnant of the Nations will Know when its Revealed (Heart of Judah)).

9/23/2015 to 9/26/2015
HEBREWS 9:23 [It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. (Passover Length Corrected, the Beginning of the End)
HEBREWS 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Antichrist Deceased, taking more then 95% of Human Life on Earth, along with him)


on Sep 12th, 2015, 09:12am, purr wrote:
Reading your posts it is clear to me you are sourcing eclectically, relying on several sources Christians tend to spurn (no problem, just mentioning it for clarity, Clif). Here's one I found helpful in understanding where you're coming from, the Urantia Book, linked for additional reader reference.

I'm still befuddled about what you want us (you, me, everybody) to DO about this impending apocalypse. For instance you've got a "112th" Pope and a (living, contemporary) Antichrist in your crosshairs. Gimme a break Clifficle, surely you have ventured a guess as to the latter's identity by now? It's DAYS to the end of September (which, with ah.. zero fallibilty =100% accuracy/certainty??) unleashes this fiend on humanity, leading to 95% of us dying, right? If nobody knows who's who at this point in time, this turns into inescapable doom or what?

Could you spell it out for us? Are you advocating (for instance, I have NO IDEA!) that the moment the good folks of Earth find out who the Antichrist is, they attempt to assassinate him? And on the related issue, are you suggesting someone ought to harm a Catholic Pope, let's say Francis? (I admit I kinda like that guy, in spite of being a Protestant myself, he reminds me of the Jesus in the Gospels somehow :o.)

Please answer as directly as you are able. Too many theological/scriptural refences tend to confuse rather than explain matters here!

Like ZETAR outlined in earlier posts, could you answer in a practical, realistic manner so simple people like myself can figure your meaning?


Urantia Classifies the Passover as Seven Literal Days at the End of Time

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1. Incomplete Finites
2. Maximum Finites
3. Transcendentals
4. Ultimates
5. Coabsolutes
6. Absolutes
7. Infinity


10 These levels of reality are convenient compromise symbolizations of the
present universe age and for the mortal perspective. There are a number of other
ways of looking at reality from other-than-mortal perspective and from the
standpoint of other universe ages
. Thus it should be recognized that the concepts here with presented are entirely relative, relative in the sense of being conditioned and limited by

Part 2
Book 106 Universe Levels of Reality
Chapter 0, see excerpt above


Urantia Classifies the End Time as the Length of the Antichrist's Life Span

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THE MACHIVENTA INCARNATION
1. Revealed truth was threatened with extinction during the millenniums
which followed the miscarriage of the Adamic mission on Urantia. Though
making progress intellectually, the human races were slowly losing ground spiritually.
About 3000 B.C. the concept of God had grown very hazy in the minds
of men
.

2. The twelve Melchizedek receivers knew of Michael’s impending bestowal
on their planet, but they did not know how soon it would occur; therefore
they convened in solemn council and petitioned the Most Highs of Edentia that
some provision be made for maintaining the light of truth on Urantia. This plea
was dismissed with the mandate that “the conduct of affairs on 606 of Sataniais
fully in the hands of the Melchizedek custodians.
”The receivers then appealed
to the Father Melchizedek for help but only received word that they should
continue to uphold truth in the manner of their own election “until the arrival
of a bestowal Son,” who “would rescue the planetary titles from forfeiture and
uncertainty.”

Part 2
Book 93 Machiventa Melchizedek
Chapter 0, see excerpt above


About 3500 Years ago God demonstrated that Moses was blessed to release Satan, by allowing Moses to illustrate the Exodus of the Jewish People. Moses the Antichrist is given the Mark of the Beast, he is the 6th Day of Creation, and a representative of (66 Reuben, Genealogy of Luke 3 minus God/Enoch/Jesus/Joseph ... and 6000 Benjamin (the Salvation Program that began with creation (Judges 20:15, Judges 20 recounts the 144,000 of Benjamin ... 1Chron5:1 ... Of the Same, 144000 of Reuben, 144000 of Benjamin (not reckoned for Star Wormwood), 144000 of Joseph).

We've began this discussion with a warning, not to give any prophecy more value then the value of the Antichrist's Life Span. We are once again reinforcing this position, based on these facts:

Theological Suicide
1. Dehumanization
2. Gospel Errancy
3. Antichrist Invalidation

Antichrist Invalidation is the worst possible sin at the end of time, since he is the "Express Image of Jesus Christ". For this reason alone, his Life Span sets the length of the events in revelation. As of now, we must keep watch for "9/23/2015 to 9/26/2015", for the promiscuity of a sign that is soon to happen and soon to be done.

Apocalypse Suicide (these are invalidated)
1. Invalidation of Recompense for the Elimination of Specific People, tied to the Murder/Suicide of the Antichrist by the Church and State
2. Invalidation of the Assassination of the Pope to serve as a mechanism of Redemption for the Church
3. Invalidation of any events paralleling Roswell, the Gospel's Program takes precedence

There is the "Sign over a Portion of the City of Philadelphia", surrounding the Arrot Terminal in the City of Philadelphia, and a more robust form of Ethn** Suici**. Leading to euthanasia, and then to Nuclear Exchanges (with most of this activity having no ultimate value, because this activity will be incomplete, possibly and very simply based on the time limitations).

(Attempted Murder and Murder of the Antichrist, Chemical and Electric Treatments, as well as methods of torture, are profitable for the continual utilization of the holy spirit, in keeping society as it is until such a time when their euthanasia is more imminent ... ... ... ... Nightly Walks will continue to be done, as well as encouragement for the authorities to turn a blind eye, to the manhunt eth*** suicid* has evolved into with the Antichrist until such a time. Love and Blessings.)
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« Reply #65 on: Sep 12th, 2015, 11:13pm »

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"Jesus Issues the Command for the Jews to return to Isreal"

HMMM ~ AND THESE >>> ORTHODOX ~ HASIDIC <<< JEWS MAY INDEED DISPUTE SUCH STATEMENT!

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« Reply #66 on: Sep 13th, 2015, 10:03am »

Purr wrote,

...Prophetic verifiability: if at close of September the Antichrist plus 112th (Anti?)pope haven't burst upon the world scene, nor ARE WE ALL (actually 95%!) DEAD, we may establish that member Clifficle's interpretation of Prophesy/Eschatology has been in error.

I am smiling, yet with a little shiver....


Point taken Purr.

So, Clifficle, what is your response.

You see, although most of us here (all, I hope) can treat this stuff as the product of the mind of someone who has been taken in by lots of high sounding Bible quotes (how many are genuine ? should we care ?) But there are lots of people who's lives will be spoiled by this garbage.

Some time ago I had one of my young nieces come around in tears because she had been persuaded that the world was about to end.

I don't like to see members of my family in frightened and crying..

So, you charlatans cause a lot of misery for the young and gullible.

When this date passes and nothing happens, what are you going to do ?

If you were Japanese, there would be a simple answer. An obvious course for the honorable man to take.

Are you an honorable man, Clifficle ?

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« Reply #67 on: Sep 13th, 2015, 11:01am »

HAL,

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"When this date passes and nothing happens, what are you going to do ?"

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on Sep 13th, 2015, 10:03am, INT21 wrote:
You see, although most of us here (all, I hope) can treat this stuff as the product of the mind of someone who has been taken in by lots of high sounding Bible quotes (how many are genuine ? should we care ?) But there are lots of people who's lives will be spoiled by this garbage.

Some time ago I had one of my young nieces come around in tears because she had been persuaded that the world was about to end.

I don't like to see members of my family in frightened and crying..

So, you charlatans cause a lot of misery for the young and gullible.

When this date passes and nothing happens, what are you going to do ?

If you were Japanese, there would be a simple answer. An obvious course for the honorable man to take.

Are you an honorable man, Clifficle ?


Barley Harvest of September of Revealing, Nulled, in Favor of "Seven Days or Seven Rays Observance" (Restatement)

(The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath - Matt. 12:1-8, Jesus declares the "Barley Harvest of Revealing of September" can be invalidated based on the desecration and killing of the Antichrist's Body and his testimony, matching Jeremiah 26:18-19, which declares all signs of the end of time are invalidated, until the "3 Days of Darkness", when the Son of Man is deceased, Jeremiah 33:20-21)

(We've identified a description of the Lord's Return beginning on 9/11/2015 and ending on 9/26/2015, "15 Days" before the Antichrist is Deceased. Matching the pattern of 15 Years for Hezekiah, 15 Days for Peter, 15 Hours for Christ (3 at the cross, and 12 before the "3 Days of Darkness") ... ... ... ... 15 Days before the Antichrist is Deceased, because Aaron/Peter, had witnessed for 15 Days, however, as we've stated previously, Aaron (Itali** Race, Catho*** Clergy), committed murder, and attempted murder several times over, once we entered into September, along with the eth***s associated with Genetic Dan, invalidating the "Barley Harvest of September of Revealing", with "Zero Fallibility", just as we've voiced this position from the gospel with "Zero Fallibility")

(The euthanasia thats been happening to this people on a global level, to limit their ability to kill themselves, as we've stated, that is for the reader to decided based on the news, if they are being put down, or not, or if there is any truth at all to prophecy or not. "Zero Fallibility and Zero Credibility", that is how we've described the end time ... ... ... ... we have a nightly walk on Monday, if the level of force is good we will have another one soon) (the gospel has an answer for humanities need to prove the gospel is a declaration of dehumanization, with the specific intention of eliminating all traces of the messiah)

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Precedence of Seven Days or Seven Rays at the End of Time (Restatement)
(Whats to stop the Antichrist from continuing to use attempted murder and murder, to invalidate all signs until more then 95% of human life on earth is destroyed when he is deceased?)


HEBREWS 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
HEBREWS 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, [that] Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

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MICAH 5:4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.
MICAH 5:5 And this [man] shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.
ISAIAH 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

The Gospel declares that when the "Barley Harvest of September of Revealing" is invalidated at the end of time, then the Passover Observance (corrected to seven days), takes precedence. The Gospel goes on to declare that even Moses the Antichrist cannot invalidate it based on the attempted murder and murder humanity does to his testimony and to his body continually. (The Mayan Pyramid of Kukulcan at Chichen Itza, is aligned to the SEVEN Stars of the Pleiades, clearly indicating the position of the gospel that after 9/11/2015 to 9/29/2015 (or 9/11/2015 to 9/26/2015) was invalidated, we should watch for a Seven Day Period 9/23/2015 to 9/29/2015 (or 9/23/2015 to 9/26/2015, since the Antichrist is deceased about half way through this period)).

God Told Noah, I don't care how many people kill themselves, or what you think you are capable of doing to the Son of Man ... ... ... ... Do you see this sign? This is the End of Your Lives!!!

GENESIS 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
MATTHEW 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


(Gen. 8:10, connecting the Dove or Moon to this activity of "Seven Days", appears to restate the Mayan Hieroglyph we've pointed to). The Gospel is very clear on this conclusion, and for this reason 9/23/2015 to 9/29/2015 now takes precedence, which is a corrected Passover, for the end time. (Ruth 4:7 claims God gave the Antichrist power to change the signs of the end time, this is only a form of chastisement for those not keeping watch, God limits this behavior as the gospel indicates when we get to the "7 Days", before the 150 days of Star Wormwood).



5128 (Mayan Calendar Measurement Length) - 3500 (Moses and the Exodus, years ago) = 1600 of Rev. 14:20 (Space about the Earth appears to be Opened). Moses is a picture of the Messiah, the Aliens are measuring the foot print they left from their interactions with earth so many years ago. As the fulfillment of Moses's Second Coming as the Antichrist, which identifies with the Cosmological Shifting we will soon observe ("Zero Fallibility").

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2:32 to 2:43 Minutes into the Unarius video about the End of the Universe. Attempts to show "SEVEN DAYS or SEVEN RAYS". Which is a phenomenon connected to the Earth's Moon, increasingly so. As the length of the sign before the 150 Days of Star Wormwood, the corrected Passover. (In the beginning of the Unarius video, the man appears to stop short of grabbing his pen**, indicating that God brushes aside the conclusion of killing his testimony and his body, in favor of the "Seven Day Passover) (Naphtali as a Separatist Inheritor ... 200,000,000 Souls ... which is another name for the Holy Spirit judging souls after death for salvation, not while living like the Holy Ghost, anyway, a portion of those people will wake up in the new universe, time does not exist when you die, so they don't know that today happened, all they know is they are benefactors, if the universe told them this, then it was a guarantee for them, off topic).

(There has been a leak in this discussion about the discovery of the Higgs Boson, on 9/23/2015, if this is true, and the Aliens have communicated, with certain undisclosed persons behind the Unarius disclosure, then they would of indicated evidence of a "Zero Fallibility" connection, to both the UFO Guardian's Diagram, and the Cydonia Equation on Mars, which describes the approximate point in time the Seven Days of Passover begins, and fundamental change of the universe is indicated on even the most finite of things).
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That does not address the questions I posed.

Could that be because you have no reasonable answer ?

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on Sep 13th, 2015, 4:02pm, INT21 wrote:
That does not address the questions I posed.

Could that be because you have no reasonable answer ?

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on Sep 13th, 2015, 10:03am, INT21 wrote:
Purr wrote,

...Prophetic verifiability: if at close of September the Antichrist plus 112th (Anti?)pope haven't burst upon the world scene, nor ARE WE ALL (actually 95%!) DEAD, we may establish that member Clifficle's interpretation of Prophesy/Eschatology has been in error.

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Point taken Purr.

So, Clifficle, what is your response.




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Lets Go Back to a Previous Point in this Discussion

1. Jehoiachin's Reign (2kings24:8/2chron36:9)
2. Solomon's Stalls (1kings4:26/2chron9:25)
3. Jesse's Eighth Son (1kings12:16/1chron2:16 ... 1samuel16:10/1samuel17:12)

These are each bible contradictions dealing with the antichrist we've answered previously, but these are also declarations about the interactions of the aliens, being reflected on the events of the last generation, which began in the events of Genesis:

II PETER 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
II PETER 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Jehoiachin's Reign Contradiction = 1948 Isreal Decleared Independance
II CHRONICLES 13:3 And Abijah set the battle in array with an army of valiant men of war, [even] four hundred thousand chosen men: Jeroboam also set the battle in array against him with eight hundred thousand chosen men, [being] mighty men of valour.
II CHRONICLES 13:4 And Abijah stood up upon mount Zemaraim, which [is] in mount Ephraim, and said, Hear me, thou Jeroboam, and all Israel;
II CHRONICLES 13:5 Ought ye not to know that the LORD God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, [even] to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?


Adam to First Son Seth = 130
Seth to First Son Enosh = 235
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Terah to First Son Abram = 1948 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis

Solomon Stalls Contradiction = 2001 NYC Twin Tower Terrorist Attacks
ISAIAH 36:8 Now therefore give pledges, I pray thee, to my master the king of Assyria, and I will give thee two thousand horses, if thou be able on thy part to set riders upon them.
ISAIAH 36:9 How then wilt thou turn away the face of one captain of the least of my master's servants, and put thy trust on Egypt for chariots and for horsemen?


Jesse's Eighth Son Contradiction = 2015 The Birth of the Antichrist into a Resurrected Body
I CORINTHIANS 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that [by my voice] I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an [unknown] tongue.
I CORINTHIANS 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
I CORINTHIANS 14:21 In the law it is written, With [men of] other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

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To Complete the Statement, we have: 1948 for the "Twenty Generations" of Genesis 5 and 11, plus "Fifty Generations" for Genesis 18, plus "Seventeen Generations" for Genesis 37:2 = 2015, the Antichrist is Reborn in a Resurrected Body.

on Sep 13th, 2015, 4:02pm, INT21 wrote:
That does not address the questions I posed.

Could that be because you have no reasonable answer ?


You've discovered a basis to invalidate the Passover of "Seven Days/Seven Rays" of 9/23/2015 to 9/26/2015, on the basis that enough of Genetic Dan has not been exterminated on a global level. Moving past that point, as we are commanded to keep watch. Based on what we understand about the end time at this point, there can be nothing after September, nothing will happen for many people as their lives come to an abrupt end, so the answer to your question is an oxymoron.

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"Zero Fallibility and Zero Credibility".
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« Reply #72 on: Sep 14th, 2015, 2:33pm »

... Based on what we understand about the end time at this point, there can be nothing after September, nothing will happen for many people as their lives come to an abrupt end, so the answer to your question is an oxymoron...

Let's try a different approach.

Do you expect to die before the 1st October 2015 ?

If not, why not ?

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« Reply #73 on: Sep 14th, 2015, 2:48pm »

HAL,

HMMM...

TO WIT:

"Let's try a different approach."

IS IT CASEBOOK INQUISITION TIME? grin

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« Reply #74 on: Sep 14th, 2015, 2:55pm »

ZETAR,

Hmmm, . Oh , I see. You mean ' Are we looking to the Socrates school of inquiry in an attempt to get to the bottom of this question'.

So it has to be 'Yes'.

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