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« Thread started on: Jun 12th, 2008, 12:48am »

hi i live southern tip of northumberland and for last month or 2 on clear nights im seeing alot of star like objects moving cross the sky. I first saw 1 of these a year ago which eluminated up very bright before fading an vanishing. just laltley Im seeing these things on every clear night I look, if i sit for an hour il see about 6 or 7 in that period. Ive seen these move north south and east west an north westerly in fact they seem to move many directions. Some dont blink they just look like a star that moves others light up an then dim an vanish ,ive seen them blink like a lighthouse an ive seem them eluminate up to 5 or 6 times the brightness an fade vanish, i also seen 3 travel in triangle formation last month . As i say most appear on horizon an vanish on other horizon but ive also seen these just appear random inthe sky blink a few times an fade.
Also last month having sat about 30 mins you get idea of star formations when 2 stars just vanished in front my eyes which had been their all time i had been sitting. Going back about 6 weeks ago i saw 2 of these star objects move down in the sky vertical, basically what im sayin on a clear night here in northumberland I will sit 30 mins an see about 10 these objects at random times ,some flash an fade away some appear start to pulse a white light then fade ,some most will fly over from horizon to horizon .

What hell are these thes things skys full of them on clear nights. ?
Anyone else observing these in the uk ?

please dont come back an say satellites because they dont pulse lights an fade,eluminate up 6 times ther size vanish or appear randomly in sky blink an vanish, nor move vertically in sky or stay stationary winning an oscar for best actor as role of a star before just fading
also most satelites move west to east in orbit or is that east to west , yes i understand spy satellites canmoveany direction but ive nver seen wave of so many moving stars before an some that appear 5 seconds blink an vanish an the give away for me was the stationary ones that just vanished after 30 mins observating night sky oh an the ones that moved vertically down in sky ,,weird i tell ya somthings going on
anyone 1 ?
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 04:23am »

As an amateur astronomer I am familiar with stars appearing to zoom across the sky and then stop dead. It is an optical illusion due to a lack of reference points. Satellites are incredibly common these days and it doesn't take long for one to appear. Tumbling or rotating may be responsible for changing light intensity. Dark skies enable one to see satellites which city dwellers never can due to the street lighting.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 07:31am »

[quote author=Skeptik link=board=unitedkingdom&num=1213249733&start=1#0 date=1213262597]As an amateur astronomer I am familiar with stars appearing to zoom across the sky and then stop dead. It is an optical illusion due to a lack of reference quote]

oh man try harder lack ref points i see em move over my house from horizon to horizon south to north 1 instance 3 in trangle formation, they also come in differing altitudes, stationary 1's just vanish infront my eyes an move vertical down in sky after appearing.
Its 1 thing to remain skeptical but its another to mock some 1 judgement, i might not be an astronimer but i nah diff between a satellite in orbit are differentto these things.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 08:28am »

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As an amateur astronomer I am familiar with stars appearing to zoom across the sky and then stop dead. It is an optical illusion due to a lack of reference points. Satellites are incredibly common these days and it doesn't take long for one to appear. Tumbling or rotating may be responsible for changing light intensity. Dark skies enable one to see satellites which city dwellers never can due to the street lighting.


I wholeheartedly welcome true sceptical analysis Skeptik. However I think in this case you may be falling into a logical trap, that of assuming that because one can think of an alternate explanation, that the alternate explanation must therefore be correct. From reading the accounts of these stars, both here and other places, they do not fit the case of optical illusion caused by lack of reference points. Quite on the contrary, it is against a reference backdrop of many stars that the movement is seen. Therefore it is a case of one observed starlike light behaving strangely, or the entire backdrop of heavenly bodies suddenly shifting to create the impression that the one light moved or stopped.
Satellites on the other hand may rotate and tumble, (though I would think it was rather out of control if it did). They usually have the intent of maintaining proper orientation (for observation, communication, etc), however I am not aware of any that are designed to stop in mid movement. It would require a rather horrendous waste of fuel to routinely engage in such manoeuvres, to a scale that would be detectable by naked eye from the earth surface. Usually it is preferable to manoeuvre by gentle pushes and patience rather than massive blasts to stop and start movement.
I can come up with many ways to explain away these sightings and also many scenarios to support them. I try however to be truly sceptical and wait for any evidence before I start taking a stand and defending it.

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 08:52am »

Hi nufclad147

I have watched pretty much the same things in Western Australia against the backdrop of clear starry skies. Sometimes, night after night I will see them, then go for a while without seeing them…. One night I watched one fly to three stars in a row over a short space of time, then fly back. I have also seen what appears to be orange stars moving around. I have been outside at night just gazing at the stars and its like a star is pointing a big flashing spotlight at me…. The most so far I have seen a star flash at me was 4 consecutive times, then blink right out…. I am calling them stars, but what they are I don't know… I have spoken to others who have seen these things too, and read other accounts... You are not alone.

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« Reply #5 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 09:33am »

thanks for your input Luvey

Can i also clear somthing up... i have not yet seen 1 stop in mid air then start movin again .they either appear stationary at random blink 2 or 3 times then fade out or move across sky from horizon to horizion or just dim soon after seeing them.
An yes i see them every clear night then maybe not for a while i even started thinkin they were related to my out body experiances because id see em either just before an obe experiance or night or 2 after, i was tryin to form a pattern.
Oh also i get the feelin they are very thort responsive or soul responsive ,why do i say this, 2 nights ago i was sittin waitin on a clear night an passing thro was all kinds of thorts to try come to some conclusion they could be aircraft, i thort in my mind all the many ive seen an how different they acted, some flash, some pulse meaning lights up star size 2 seconds dim for 4 seconds an then lite up again an some are lite on for 1st spotting then fade away not long after spotting em some eluminate up.my 1 st spotting 2 nights ago the star very bright appeared over my house meaning i was looking90 degrees above my head soon as i saw it it vanished . After 4 mins of self doubt an tryin to find internal explaination suddenly 1 appeared above me middel of the sky an not far off in horizon.
This 1 in perticualr proformed all i had been thinking dimmed up then faded then blinked like a light house then faded up to star size light then dimmed then blinked, it was 1st time i had seen 1 act in in this mannor, as if it read my mind andecided to end doubts in my mind.
You know if you read my other posts concernin ufo sighting lasting 10 yrs about 2 yrs ago after a 10 yr gap in sightings i had an inner feelin to just watch out in skys .Its really hard to explain but the thort just would not leave me alone then 1 chrisp feb night 5am i got a thort in my head to go in garden it was almost like a silent voice in my head said sto pwhat ur doing go in garden. this i did an within 30 seconds 1 of these objects appeared overmy house stationary an eluminated up 3 times size venus then faded away
This really fuels my therory they are thort or soul responsive some how an why Im seeing alot soon after obe experiancers or just before is another mystery
Somethign big is goin down i tell ya i feel it.
I have also in the 2 year period from 2006 seen a gold orb blink at sky 2 times same postion in 5 min time period.
Alli can say is to anyone in northumberland area next clear night get flask of coffee an have a sit an watch
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 5:04pm »

on Jun 12th, 2008, 07:31am, nufclad147 wrote:
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oh man try harder lack ref points i see em move over my house from horizon to horizon south to north 1 instance 3 in triangle formation, they also come in differing altitudes, stationary 1's just vanish infront my eyes an move vertical down in sky after appearing.
Its 1 thing to remain skeptical but its another to mock some 1 judgement, i might not be an astronimer but i nah diff between a satellite in orbit are different to these things.


There is no need to be so defensive. I was simply pointing out the most likely explanation not attacking you. Decades staring up at the sky (day and night) gives me far more experience than you. The sky is stuffed with satellites and orbiting debris. These move in orbits which criss-cross the globe. They spin (deliberately for stability) and some even tumble. They move constantly into different angles with you and the Sun which is illuminating them by reflection. Their light intensity varies enormously as a result of new faces reflecting the light differently from the last panel. Aerials and solar panels block and uncover the light as the object turns, tumbles or rotates. They move into the umbra and penumbra of the Earth's shadow which can cause slow or sudden changes in the light they reflect. Just like an eclipse of the Moon. If the objects you see were unusual the papers would be full of reports and razor sharp images images from the amateur astronomers scattered right across the UK and Western Europe. Objects at high altitudes (or in orbit) can be seen across a vast area on the ground. They are not local to your home area unless they are at low altitude. If you want to test my theory there are excellent websites which closely predict satellites. Here's a good one:

http://www.heavens-above.com/

As to your feeling of being drawn to go outside this is a perfectly normal psychological response to your interest in the strange objects in the sky. If you see something exciting or unusual you want to repeat the experience. The reward center in your brain wants another dose of the pleasurable chemical stimulus. You can even get withdrawl symptoms if you don't see something exciting soon after going outside.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 5:30pm »

I have yet to see a satellite stop for about a minute then travel at a right angle to its original flight path; yes they can disappear instantly if they no longer have a light reflection.
I have been keeping track of objects similar to what Nufclad147 was reporting and they are not satellites or shooting stars but controlled objects and I too are an armature astronomer ok I only have a sky-watcher reflector telescope with d=114 f=1000 coated optics but I find this more than sufficient for my needs even more so when I fit the USB camera I have acquired linked to my laptop.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 5:32pm »

Points taken skeptic however it dont explain the same objects i saw moving vertical in sky with same arbitrutes .
Nor the 2 stationary objects i observed for 20 mins that simply faded out in front my eyes, or the blinkin gold orb

Also skeptic 10 yrs ago i saw an object that climaxed my month long of weird lights observations, after hearing a humming sound i went to my bedroom window an there in sky was a fleet of rectangle lights of many colours, i say fleet but the object moved as 1 an silent but for the humming , it was size of a football stadium easy an it was of 3D effect . I mean by this I could tell some of the rectangle lights were higher then the lower ones by size .
My conclusion to this event was 1 of 2 things

1 we are been visited by things whos technology is far greater then our own

2 It was goverment made in which case our goverments are hiding technologys that could rid the world of the oil addictions an other problems the world is facing
pensioners dieing because they choose food over heating, holding developing nations back due to quota of oil usage and taking crops for bio fuels when some countrys children starve

it can only be 1 of the 2 above an to be honnest i dont know which one is the more frightening

astronomy must be so so frustrating i mean looking out at somthing you onlysee 3% of ,matter, i might be wrong on my maths here but isnt it true the universe is 67% dark matter an 30% dark energy an all we get to see of the dam thing is the 3% our senses allow, the light matter. My point been i couldnt sit an studying somthing that cloaks 97% of itself as you could spend a life time observing and your never ever going to work it out ...lol
im so sorry to sound so defensive skeptic its just when you have seen somthing aslarge weird in the sky as theobject i saw in97 it kinda changes 1 preception in life ,its so frustrating seeing all these forums asking and debating alien excistence or covert black gov operations. Its hard to watch it all go on an sit here knowing i have seen 1 or the other of the above withmy own 2 eyes an knowing its real.

Ther is 2 things eating me about this encounter i had
1 if it is goverment and man made then its criminal of our leaders who we trust the technology isnt been used to make our world a better cleaner place an end alot hardship, or

2 they are keeping it to them selves the fact we are been visited, for that ther has to be some hidden agenda to why this is the case. Both conclusions dont give me much respect for our so called leaders.
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 11:08pm »

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Oh also i get the feelin they are very thort responsive or soul responsive


I have noticed that they are thought or soul responsive too. I have wandered outside at night and looked up at the stars, gazing around….and thought "ok, where are you tonight"….and next thing a great flash of light will come from a star. If my memory serves me correctly JohnnyAnonymous has filmed this type of phenomenon and with witnesses. My take on this is that we are all one and a part of everything….. Everything is interconnected.

On the night I saw the 4 bright flashes come from a star and then there was nothing….. I had the urge to go outside, and was not even aware of why I needed to go outside. I wandered out thinking of mundane things, and gazed out into the night, star filled clear sky….. and then out of the corner of my right eye I saw a bright flash in the sky so turned my head to see what it was and saw a further 3 bright flashes. Like a big spotlight from the sky was flashing at me.

I have watched little lights fly haphazardly and then fly straight up and disappear….. One night my son and I watched one fly towards us then as it got above us it flew straight up vertically and disappeared. Something of interest you mentioned was the gold orb. You mention you saw it outside…. But the strange thing is I awoke during the night some time back, and walked into my bathroom and from there I looked into the family area of my home and saw a gold orb floating in the air near the top of my linen closet, and next thing it disappeared. I wonder if there is any relationship. Quite mysterious.

A few weeks back I watched a small very bright light appear in the night sky surrounded by much smaller lights….it travelled for a distance and disappeared or blinked out. Its hard to ascertain the size of these things because of the distance involved. What may appear small from my vantage point may in fact be very large. These things are definitely controlled…..

Please do keep relaying your experiences with these objects because in comparing notes we can learn more.

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« Reply #10 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 11:40pm »

Please do keep relaying your experiences with these objects because in comparing notes we can learn more.

Luvey

i will do for sure luvey , i guess i was afraid to get friends to sit with me in case i sat an nothing happned deep down i just have feeling this is the purose of things and of all my experiances to just tell folks. Maybe the plan for me is to get others to watch an when they start seeing an beliving in these things momentum will pick . The more that are aware of things the better is my gut feeling.
All i know is my sightings of these things are going off the scale an my spontantious obe experiances from averaging 5 a year in last 6 yrs have gone of the scale too im onto 16 since beginging of this year an feel its all connected to. I cant help but feel its all connected to the build up to 2012
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 13th, 2008, 12:00am »

nufclad147 wrote Quote:
All i know is my sightings of these things are going off the scale an my spontantious obe experiances from averaging 5 a year in last 6 yrs have gone of the scale too im onto 16 since beginging of this year an feel its all connected to.


From what I have been reading lately.... and your mention of OBEs and these star like objects you are seeing....and that you feel they are related. I have read that people who have awakened Kundalini have these experiences also.

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« Reply #12 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 6:01pm »

Is this what your seeing Nufclad147.. i see them all the time..

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Cosmic_Traveler/?action=view¤t=whitelight3highQ.flv


I think they are these high altitude objects i see during the day..


http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Cosmic_Traveler/?action=view¤t=HAO2.flv

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Cosmic_Traveler/?action=view¤t=3hao3b.flv


and no its not a star..
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 9:48pm »

Just reread this thread again and see that your seeing blinking lights. which is what ive also
started seeing.. i use to see flashes of light but just thought it was my eyes going funny but one night recently i looked up and see a flash of light.. didnt think much of it.. its ya eyes.. but no then it flashed again.. looked to see if it was a plane but i couldnt hear or see no plane.. then it flashed
again about another 4 times.. weird.. its like someones up there shining a torch on and off.. and the other
night looking up i see another flash but this time it kept flashing on and off in a diferent position..

well nice to hear others are seeing the same thing...

Im in SE london which is not exactly the place to be for star gazing. but these lights are bright.. you can see how bright they are from the vid i showed.. they cant be satelites.. iridium satelites are the brightest and they are only visible at most for 40 seconds.. with the brightest point only lasting around 4 seconds.. also i heard that you cant see a satellite 2 hours after sunset..

these lights ive seen can last up to 4 minutes.. and some just appear and then fade out soon after youve spotted it. and some will just barely be visible.. but ya always seem to be drawn up to look at a certain spot in the sky and there one is.. ive had them suddenly appear as soon as ive steped outside.. strange
things going on for sure...
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 9:50pm »

i must admit the1's i see eluminate up,, the longest i saw em that bright was 20 seconds but yes they are very simular . Even last night june 21 i possibly saw 3, 2 higher atltitude moving with a steady light an 1 that seemed lower that flashed random times .
As much as ive watched ive never seeen any of these things in daylight or dusk.
Also yes i agree bout the random flashof light you play the oooh yes my eyes tricked me ,,,mind game with
I get them too but yes could be just eyes playing tricks but im stating i too get em.
The flashing 1 i saw last night did that just appeared in middle of the skyin bright flashes but as it passed over flashed more orb like an dimmer.

There has only been last 2night sclear of cloud here in north east but they seem to be just as present. That really is a good sightin Travler, I to tried to video them but on reviewing my tape the VHSC mini cassete snapped shocked( so its out of comission at moment till i get a new cassete
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