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« Reply #45 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 4:22pm »

Here is Gizmodo's article on the same release:

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Photos of Mysterious UFO-Shaped Object Sunk In Baltic Sea


Last year, a mysterious UFO-shaped 60-foot disc was discovered in the bottom of the Baltic sea by a Swedish ocean exploration team using sonar. Now, that same team has managed to get near it and take photographs. According to diver Stefan Hogeborn, it's unlike anything they've ever seen:

"During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don't burn. I can't explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions."


At first, the divers thought that the disc was just some kind of rock cliff. But closer observations revealed something different:

The object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.

The divers say that there is a 985-foot-long path that can be described "as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it."

Peter Lindberg, who is one of the founders of the Swedish Ocean X Team, has always been clear that they are not claiming that this is a spaceship of any kind. They don't, though, know what it is:

Read more and view video: http://gizmodo.com/5918762/divers-explore-mysterious-spaceship+shaped-object-in-baltic-sea/
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« Reply #46 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 4:40pm »

Okay, now I'm really interested. Are we to assume that the armed forces of several nations have given this thing a thorough going over?

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« Reply #47 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 7:47pm »

on one forum: (point) Could have been smoothed during drag by glaciers, dragged and deposited to its current location

(counter point) How long ago? Would the stone have eroded to nothing by now? What about the drag area?

Until someone explores the hole, I dunno.
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« Reply #48 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 7:54pm »

Actually to answer my own question (and only as an armchair amateur), I would guess that unless the currents were particularly strong, the stone would not have eroded much in thousands of years. Also, because it's in cold northern waters, you wouldn't have nearly so much flora or fauna growing off it which would also erode it. What many see as a long drag may be instead the effect on the area by currents going the other way. Imagine a river stone and the water flowing around it, how the fluid dynamics might disturb a sandy base on the other side of the stone. This is on a larger scale.

This explanation doesn't describe the loops of stones situated on the greater stone base nor the oval hole in any way, alas.
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« Reply #49 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 8:02pm »

Yes, this is one for the wait and see department Reasoner. I believe somebody has already pointed out that this could date to times when sea levels were lower than it is?

That coloration couldn't be soot, as that would have washed off long ago. Very interesting find.

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« Reply #50 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 8:27pm »

The object lays at what would have been the surface at the lowest water level in the last ice age.
It may be a result of shallow water working the stone or even man.
I hope we get more info.
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« Reply #51 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 8:53pm »

You and me both. I wonder what the military found when they looked? Yes, I'm assuming that they thoroughly checked it out.

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« Reply #52 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 09:56am »

Sorry but I am not buying into this. If it was alien tec then the military would be off with it and before they got the chance to remove it the area would be cordoned off by some excuse such as unexploded war mines .the only value I see it having is archeological
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« Reply #53 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 12:48pm »

there's another update (Fox News):

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/18/swedish-scientists-reveal-findings-deep-sea-alien-hunt/

Two interesting bits from the article:

"The odd thing about the discovery is that there is no silt on the rock, for example; it would ordinarily be covered with silt on the bottom of the sea, Lindberg said.
Even more odd for a seemingly natural formation, the main object is disc-shaped and 'appears to have construction lines and boxes drawn on it,' Lindberg said. 'There are also straight edges.' "

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"Adding to the mystery, there appears to be a pillar which is holding up the 200 foot wide object, said Lindberg. 'The pillar is eight meters high,' he added."

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« Reply #54 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 1:02pm »

Going by the area and reports of pillars its beginning to sound like some Paleolithic to Neolithic camp that somehow ended up flooded, as for the runway I feel your first diagnoses was closer to the truth and is caused by tidal currents.
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« Reply #55 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 3:26pm »

on Jun 18th, 2012, 09:56am, hyundisonata wrote:
Sorry but I am not buying into this. If it was alien tec then the military would be off with it and before they got the chance to remove it the area would be cordoned off by some excuse such as unexploded war mines .the only value I see it having is archeological


There are probably a lot of us who never bought the UFO concept, but saw the possibility of an ancient dwelling of some sort. A pillar suggests much sophistication for any Neolithic camp though. I grow more interested in it by the day.

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« Reply #56 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 3:31pm »

on Jun 18th, 2012, 12:48pm, Reasoner wrote:
there's another update (Fox News):

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/18/swedish-scientists-reveal-findings-deep-sea-alien-hunt/

Two interesting bits from the article:

"The odd thing about the discovery is that there is no silt on the rock, for example; it would ordinarily be covered with silt on the bottom of the sea, Lindberg said.
Even more odd for a seemingly natural formation, the main object is disc-shaped and 'appears to have construction lines and boxes drawn on it,' Lindberg said. 'There are also straight edges.' "

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"Adding to the mystery, there appears to be a pillar which is holding up the 200 foot wide object, said Lindberg. 'The pillar is eight meters high,' he added."



What are the chances that current might keep it clear of silt Reasoner?

The presence of a pillar would really up the ante for an archaeological find, would it not? This would be pretty unique for a Neolithic People. Might we be having the honor of watching human history being pushed further back at long last?

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« Reply #57 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 5:05pm »

With them giving such details on what the strutures have on them as well as their shape you would think that they would be downloading photo's of these structures and or objects, area around these objects, lines on them as well as any other finds about all this. If for no other reason to prove what they have found and send out the photo's to get others input on what all this may truly be. They talk about what they have found and whats on it, and talk about details on the objects,why not show it, I'm sure theres a way to do so rolleyes ?? I really like hearing about all of this, but it would be great to have video and or photo's to go with all the talk If for no other reason than to prove and back their claims and give them the chance to put the proof out about their discovery. As always just my thoughts on the post and not meant to offend anyone. smiley JIM
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« Reply #58 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 5:12pm »

Jim, I've done some dive work. I suspect the visibility is very bad where they are. Cold water usually means feel your way around underwater.

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« Reply #59 on: Jun 18th, 2012, 5:43pm »

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I have done some diving but not in a work related way. I know that at times and areas it can get very cloudy when one starts messing with the sidiment on the rocks, bottom,etc. But I do know that they had some great photo shots and video of the TITANIC when they were doing it,so I know it can be done and that water was truly deep and cold. I looked at the video on the one post,but didn't really see anything that would make me agree with what they had said the objects had on them as well as the shape and the fact that I believe they said it had pillars or something like that, except for the very good shot of the diver, which was the only really clear photo of anything rolleyes rolleyes. Still if there are lines, edges,pillars as they say they should be able to at least show that. They have the people and the things needed to do it, just need to do it without making everything cloudy. The one photo's really didn't show anything that would make me think it was really anything special,just cloudy, and some rocks one with a closeup, but no real details that I would say showed anything man made or other wish, just rocks, at least to me on my laptop. smiley JIM
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