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« Reply #15 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 3:15pm »

on Sep 4th, 2016, 3:08pm, Nyx wrote:
Do we really know what governments are really trying to put into space?

We already know the military had secret launches in the past.

The Facebook launch could have been something else.



Do you remember the Phobos-Grunt mission ?

Sending extremophiles on another rock might not have been such a good idea. Hmmmmm.....them "anomalies".

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« Reply #16 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 3:29pm »

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amazing coincidence your sphere with the 2 light resembles that sphere....glad your camera caught that.



I have many this kind of ufo photos from last eight years (not now, as I already give up), because when they passed my house they will put their head out of their light object (ufo) to see me and they fly very low.....
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 3:30pm »

Space Preservation Treaty
Main article: Space Preservation Treaty

The Space Preservation Treaty was a proposed 2006 UN General Assembly resolution against all space weapons. Only the United States of America voted against the treaty, with Israel abstaining.[9]

In February 2008, China and Russia together submitted a draft to the UN known as the Treaty on Prevention of the Placement of Weapons in Outer Space and of the Threat or Use of Force against Outer Space Objects (PPWT).[10] The US opposed the draft treaty due to security concerns over its space assets despite the treaty explicitly affirming a State's inherent right of self-defence.[11] On December 4, 2014, the General Assembly of the UN passed two resolutions on preventing an arms race in outer space.[12]

The first resolution, Prevention of an arms race in outer space, "call[s] on all States, in particular those with major space capabilities, to contribute actively to the peaceful use of outer space, prevent an arms race there, and refrain from actions contrary to that objective."[12] There were 178 countries that voted in favour to none against, with 2 abstentions (Israel, United States).[13]

The second resolution, No first placement of weapons in outer space, which emphasises the prevention of an arms race in space and that "other measures could contribute to ensuring that weapons were not placed in outer space."[14] 126 countries voted in favour to 4 against (Georgia, Israel, Ukraine, United States), with 46 abstentions (EU member States abstained on the resolution).[15]
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 3:49pm »

I DO THINK ECHOING ANOTHER ~ OBSERVATION WHICH IS...

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SpaceX Rocket Explosion Comes At Worst Possible Time For Musk

http://www.investors.com/news/technology/spacex-rocket-explosion-comes-at-worst-possible-time-for-elon-musk/

"The explosion follows an SEC filing by Tesla late Wednesday that revealed a financial crunch as it strives to acquire SolarCity. The filing disclosed that Tesla has to pay $422 million to its bondholders in the third quarter, and that it will raise additional money by year's end. The money is needed, in part, to support the SolarCity merger.

Besides to being the CEO of SpaceX and Tesla, Musk is also the largest shareholder of both Tesla and SolarCity, and he chairs the board at the solar firm, which is led by his cousins, brothers Lyndon and Peter Rive. Tesla's bid to acquire Solar City was widely criticized by analysts, who said the deal would signal a fundamental change to Tesla's business model that could thwart its aggressive efforts to expand production of its all-electric vehicles."


Who provides the insurance for SpaceX launches?

http://space.stackexchange.com/questions/14922/who-provides-the-insurance-for-spacex-launches

Aon International Space Brokers does, according to this article. Although they likely only cover liability type losses from SpaceX, not the cost of the rocket themselves. In fact, this 2012 FCC document states that SpaceX has 3rd party liability insurance for the first 45 days after a launch, afterward which they are self-insured.


Aon International Space Brokers (ISB)

http://www.aon.com/singapore/risk-services/products-services/isb.jsp

Each payload that is on any rocket tends to be insured to some extent by the payload owner. They may use a variety of insurance providers. These insurance providers will typically review the tests of the satellites and rockets to ensure they are satisfied before agreeing to the launch, and are thus given a seat in making launch decisions.

ONE EXPENSIVE CANDLE! ~ STILL WONDERING IF IT WAS COVERED UNDER POLICY PROVISIONS grin

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« Reply #19 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 4:16pm »

I hear Ya Z

ya know..there is something to be said about alternative financing like Arson when business is slow or maybe someone doesnt like the new neighbors.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3773066/Spacecom-seeks-Xinwei-deal-alive-satellite-destroyed.html

JERUSALEM, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Israeli satellite operator Space Communications said on Sunday it was working on an amended deal to be acquired by Beijing Xinwei Technology Group after a Spacecom communications satellite was destroyed last week.

Xinwei last month agreed to buy Spacecom for $285 million, saying the deal was contingent on the successful launch of Spacecom's Amos-6 satellite - which was due to take place on Saturday.


But an explosion destroyed a Falcon 9 rocket belonging to Elon Musk's SpaceX as well as Amos-6 during preparations for a routine test firing at Cape Canaveral in Florida last Thursday.

Spacecom said the loss would have a significant impact on the company, with its equity expected to decline by $30 million to $123 million. Its shares lost 9 percent on Thursday, with the explosion occurring late in the trading day. They were suspended on Sunday morning and when they resumed trade lost another 34 percent.

Prior to Sunday's decline, Spacecom had a market value of 806 million shekels.

Spacecom "updated the acquirer (Xinwei) about the loss of the satellite and is examining, along with the buyer, the possibility to amend the agreement and adjust to the new situation," it said on Sunday.

In a conference call, Spacecom's general counsel Gil Lotan said it was still too early to provide any forecast regarding the prospect of the merger. "We hope to continue fruitful communications with the prospective buyer," he said.

The Amos-6 satellite was going to be used by a number of key clients, including Facebook to expand internet access in Africa.

Bezeq Israel Telecom, Israel's largest telecoms provider, said its digital satellite TV provider unit YES could be impacted by the loss of Amos-6. It said it had been using the older Amos-2 and Amos-3 satellites and that should a replacement not be found, it may have to remove some channels.

Spacecom said it was entitled to a full refund for Amos-6 from Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), the satellite's manufacturer, as well as interest of LIBOR plus 4 percent.

It will also receive $50 million in compensation from SpaceX, or it can choose to use SpaceX for a future launch at no extra cost.

Spacecom will also get back money it paid to insure the Amos-6 satellite in orbit. It added that once it receives its compensation, it will be able to pay off bondholders $232 million they are owed. (Reporting by Steven Scheer; Editing by Mark Potter and Stephen Powell)

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« Reply #20 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 6:36pm »

A most bizarre take on all of this from the Russian perspective
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2108.htm
September 4, 2016

China Enraged After Obama Orders SpaceX Rocket Destroyed On Florida Launch Pad

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Security Council (SC), with input from the Ministry of Defense (MoD), states that China became so “enraged” at President Obama’s ordering the destruction of a SpaceX rocket in Florida on Thursday (1 September) they refused to greet him as a visiting head-of-state upon his arrival at Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport (HGH) forcing America’s leader to “go out of the ass” of Air Force One and one Chinese official accosting his top National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, and screaming at her “this is our country, our airport”. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

As to why President Obama was treated so “shamefully/dishonorably” by the Chinese, this report explains, was due to the United States “deliberate and calculated” military interference of a “legitimate” international business “transaction/sale deal” between China and an Israeli company named Spacecom.

According to this report, Spacecom is an Israeli communications satellite operator in the Middle East, European Union and North America headquartered in the city of Ramat Gan, Israel who agreed last month (24 August) to the sale of their company to the privately owned Chinese company Beijing Xinwei Technology Group.

The Beijing Xinwei Technology Group, this report continues, is one of China’s largest telecommunications companies that MoD analysts have long noted is “effectively owned and controlled” by the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA).

With the sale of Spacecom to Beijing Xinwei Technology Group being contingent upon the successful launching of the AMOS-6 satellite from Florida’s Cape Canaveral on Saturday (3 September), this report notes, the Obama regime “obviously/without doubt” determined that it would not be in the best interest of the United States to see this massive technology transfer take place—and in their not being able to stop this sale in any legal way, simply decided to destroy it.
This astonishing report concludes by noting that China will “most certainly” retaliate against the Obama regime for having stopped the sale of Spacecom to the Beijing Xinwei Technology Group—but, also, notes that the Chinese have not suffered any actual monetary damage, just a “wound” to their prestige, which may be more dangerous.


And, as always, the American people themselves will never be allowed to know the truth of any of this.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 8:47pm »

Good Ole' Sorcha!! Sure can spin a yarn! Links everything published on it in a conspiratorial masterpiece!

One does wonder just exactly what Obama, Kerry, and Klinton promised China that they screwed the pooch on so badly??

There was quite a bit of insulting behavior by all involved. Might be an interesting summit!

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haha...as i said we must sift sift sift..

if a picture was word a thousand words
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Remember ..China made O go to the back of the plane..no illuminati messaging there for sure..

Given the grasping at straws to contain China and the Russians..blowing up the rocket would send a message to China and The Israelis who are trying to embrace a future with them..
Indeed ..a lot of interests did not want that rocket to go up..
So Sorcha may have been on to something..

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« Reply #23 on: Sep 5th, 2016, 12:56am »

Stand Down
looks like a bird

filmed at .125



Now..putting that aside look at the film at 327 and watch the
"payload" crash to the ground

since when does a sat payload explode like that hitting the ground..it burned sustained white hot for several seconds..

That was no all electronics payload..
if a warhead of some kind they are in violation of International law.. The facebook thing was a fake cover
I never saw free internet blow up like that

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Are you sure it's a bird Sys ? undecided

It could be a furry-winged weather balloon filled with Swamp gas. tongue

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« Reply #25 on: Sep 5th, 2016, 10:36am »

Look at the focus factor of the image! That object is quite a bit farther away than the towers. Even during the explosion, that object does not move towards or change trajectory. I don't think that object had anything to do with it! Now what it is is the true question.

NO flights of any aircraft including military (unless designated chase planes)are allowed within 20 miles of Canaveral during launches. My feelings are that it is one of those huge overfed pelicans.


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« Reply #26 on: Sep 5th, 2016, 5:33pm »

If we continue to see the official video that was slowed down after the explosion we see objects after as well..one of my screen shots shows identical blurfo going across right to left from the lowest part of the rocket..at 140
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its worth watching till the end
But my question now is what was really in that payload to cause massive secondary explosion?

Oh Snap WTF they made em take the video down! shocked
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someone mentioned bugs..why not?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/411814/the-armys-remote-controlled-beetle/
or bird ..collisions happen all the time
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« Reply #29 on: Sep 5th, 2016, 7:26pm »

OSIRIS-Rex was nearby. It's a good thing it wasn't damaged (hopefully).
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http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/28147/20160905/spacex-failed-launch-will-not-affect-asteroid-mission-according-to-nasa.htm

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