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xx Re: World-Wide Alien Encounters
« Reply #135 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 2:34pm »

Well rob, maybe if you "folded" your head around it you'd understand it better. tongue
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« Reply #136 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 6:26pm »

Yeah, u got it except for the time. While it's debatable I think most scientists would say that time travel is impossible and time is not a dimension.

If you assume a string is one dimensional then the shortest distance from both ends is a straight line. But if u curve it into a circle so that both ends touch then the shortest distance between both ends is practically zero but this would only be visible to someone in a higher dimension. There's nothing that says that u can't bend one dimensional objects into higher dimensions. Every object in our world consists of infinitelt many lower dimensions. Anyway, that's my take it on it.

BTW, there is something called String Theory which theorizes about dimensions higher then the fourth but that has nothing to do w/ my example. Check this out http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/WireFrame4/tesseract.html .
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« Reply #137 on: Dec 7th, 2003, 06:15am »

Attempted abduction in Sweden:

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Location. Near Tingryd Sweden
Date: February 3 1984 Time: 0150A
Truck driver Ante Johnson was driving back home on an isolated road when he noticed a huge oblong shaped object hovering silently above a nearby meadow. The craft resembled a submarine with curved ends and a turret in the middle; it was completely black in color. The witness drove quickly home to fetch his camera and returned to the area but the object was now gone. He drove around searching and suddenly spotted something blocking the roadway ahead. He stepped on the brakes and the car skidded making a full circle. It stopped a few feet from a dark object on the roadway. Beneath the object the witness could see three bulge-like protrusions. At this point the witness became frightened and attempted to leave the area but his car got stuck on a snowdrift. He looked behind him but the object was nowhere in sight. The witness got out of the car then suddenly a small four-foot tall humanoid dressed in some type of cowl that covered his face grabbed his arm. The humanoid’s head and body appeared square in shape and it had surprising strength. The witness began screaming and pulling and finally pulled himself free, he ran to some nearby houses but two other similar beings jumped on him and tried to pull him away from the road. While he struggled he noticed another large dark object hovering nearby. A truck now approached on the road ahead and the creatures finally released him. He was later found in his car in a state of shock and taken to an area hospital.

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Source: Hakan Sterner, Nordic UFO Newsletter, February 1985 Type: C
High Strangeness Index: 7
Reliability of Source: 8
Comments: Another sort of crude abduction attempt.


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« Reply #138 on: Dec 7th, 2003, 09:45am »

"Another sort of crude abduction attempt."

Anyone have any ideas why crude abduction reports tend to come from certain areas? Could these things happen in the U.S. and Britain but people don't report them because they sound silly? I must say, it sounds like something from the fifties or sixties instead of from 1984.

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« Reply #139 on: Dec 7th, 2003, 5:40pm »

I wish to propose a new theory influenced by the latest Norwegian abduction attempt. Supposing many of these UFOs are not real in a real sense but merely creations and costumes and solid holographic manifestations? It makes more sense to me that mental creatures from other dimensions access our history as well as our minds and project all kinds of weird shapes and forms. Imagine if we had a warehouse of aircraft parts as well as Hollywood costumes and we wished to "play act" a frightening role in order to "feed off" the fear and shock emotions of the victims. Then we could project all kinds of strange shapes and forms and bodies. This to me explains the tremendous diversity and quantity of different UFO shapes as well as the differences in the occupants.

What do you think? Irwyn huh
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« Reply #140 on: Dec 7th, 2003, 6:14pm »

Could be Irwyn...anything is possible.

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« Reply #141 on: Dec 7th, 2003, 7:04pm »

That's Swedish abduction attempt...

But anyway these type of reports are indeed rare but have been frequently reported in Brazil in some cases the entities have struggled with the would be abductee, usually a poor farmer living in an isolated region. There are scattered reports of "crude" abduction events in the UK and US and the European mainland.

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« Reply #142 on: Dec 8th, 2003, 01:08am »

on Dec 7th, 2003, 5:40pm, timetraveler wrote:
Supposing many of these UFOs are not real in a real sense but merely creations and costumes and solid holographic manifestations?


It's interesting u mention "hologram." If we can make a 2 dimensional picture look 3 dimensional then there must be a way to make a 3 dimensional object look 4 dimensional.
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« Reply #143 on: Dec 8th, 2003, 09:09am »

Ok Goblin, then they aren't really specific to any particular region. Thanks.

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« Reply #144 on: Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:42am »

on Nov 28th, 2003, 5:10pm, rob wrote:
I still cannot get my head around this fourth dimension thing. Could anyone possibly make it a bit simpler for the simple mind.


Actually I once heard someone compare the 4th dimension to the internet and after months of thought that's not a bad anology. Some web pages are just text (one dimensional), have pictures(two dimensional), or even fancy graphics(three dimensional). But most if not all web pages have hypertext and when u click on a hyperlink u travel from one website to another. So I guess they weren't kidding when they called it "hyperspace." So 4 dimensional travel would be like clicking on a hyperlink. U miraculoulsy end up sonewhere else and there is no relation b/ start point and end point.

I found this during a search.

http://www.bright.net/~mrf/links.html
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« Reply #145 on: Jan 13th, 2004, 10:59am »

Recent encounter in Argentina:

Location. Tin Tin, Salta, Argentina
Date: December 16 2003 Time: near midnight
Julio Espinoza his 5-year old daughter Tamara and 5 other witnesses were traveling by truck near the entrance to the Los Cardones National Park when the driver call out that there was a strange object on the ground about 400 meters away on the right of the road. Espinosa managed to climb on top of the truck in order to obtain a better look as the truck approached the strange object. As the truck drove very close to the object Espinoza saw an object about 100 meters in width, which was resting on the ground on what appeared to be several leg-like supports that rose to about 10-12 meters from the ground. Several hose-like protrusions with lights on the end emerged from the supports. Curious Espinoza left the truck and hid behind a boulder to get a closer look. Suddenly the lights dimmed and Espinoza saw several strange figures, which walked as if suspended animation. He was only able to describe the humanoids as tall and thin wearing very bright outfits that obscured any other features. Hiding behind the boulder he saw one of the figures jumped on top of an outcrop and appear to collect ground samples. After about 20 minutes, Espinoza decided to return to the truck in order to notify the rest of the people. They saw the object but were unable to see the humanoids, because of the distance.

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Source: Lista Espacio Compartido January 4 2004 Type: C


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« Reply #146 on: Jan 31st, 2004, 3:28pm »

Classic early Swedish encounter:

Location. Angelholm Sweden
Date: May 1946 Time: evening
Walking through woods in the evening, Gosta Carlsson (a prominent man in Sweden), found, in a clearing, a 16-meter disc shaped object with a cupola, in which were oval windows, and above which was a 5-meter periscope like mast. Beneath the disc was a big oblong fin stretching from the center to the edge, and 2 metal landing legs. Around the edge were a lot of holes, like those of a turbine. On the mast hung “something like a lampshade” from which flowed a pulsating purple light. Beside the craft, 30 ft from Carlsson, stood a slender man in white close fitting overalls, who raised his hand in warning, and several others, some of whom had apparently just finished repairing a window; 11 persons in all, including 4 women. None spoke. They wore short black boots and gloves, black belts, and transparent helmets; the men wore black caps, the women had “ashen colored” hair. The guard wore a black box on his chest. All were brown, as if sun tanned. One of the women came out of the cabin, went to the edge of the “wall of light”, and threw something beyond it, with a laugh. (The object, retrieved by Carlsson, was siliceous and “showed nothing exceptional” on investigation.) There was a smell resembling ozone. Carlsson went back to the shore, intending to approach the object from the other side. He saw a bright red light, and the object slowly rose above the treetops with a corona of red lights form the “turbine” holes, and a whining sound. At 400-500 meters it wobbled a bit, the red light changed to purple, and the object went off at tremendous speed. A ring and marks of the fin & legs remained, visible in aerial photographs of 1947 and 1963.

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Source: Sven Olof Fredrickson, FSV Vol. 18 # 2 Type: B Entities seen boarding and in close proximity to UFO.
HSI: “9”
ROS: “9”
Comments: Early classic Swedish case. This case clearly describes human like occupants, perhaps with an arrogant air about them. This case is considered a classic among early occupant cases.


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« Reply #147 on: Feb 7th, 2004, 1:30pm »

Bizarre encounter in France:

Location. Saint Max, France
Date: Summer 1963 Time: 0800A
The 8-year old witness was spending her school vacation at the home of a relative and was sleeping in when the rays of the sun filtering in through the window blinds awakened her. Upon waking up she was stunned to see standing in front of the bed a massive square silhouette white in color. The figure was about 1.60m in height. It was immobile and metallic in appearance, without any facial features, somewhat resembling a refrigerator. It stood about 2 meters from the witness, who terrified immediately hid under the covers. Minutes later her curiosity made her look again, but the bizarre figure had already vanished.

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Source: Raoul Robe, Regional Catalogue Type: E This case reminds me of a Puerto Rican incident that occurred in 1992 describing a very similar type of “square metallic” entity.
High Strangeness Index: 7
Reliability of Source: 8
Comments: Like I mentioned above there is a very similar case from Puerto Rico in 1994 describing a similar robot type entity accompanied by other humanoids.

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« Reply #148 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 08:25am »

more mysterious creatures:

Location. Leona Vicario, Yucatan, Mexico
Date: January 28 2004 Time: midnight
Maria Luisa Fernandez Morales a residents living in the outskirts of the city reported that an unknown creature killed at least 50 of her hens, which she kept in her backyard. The witness, who sold chickens for a living heard a loud ruckus coming from the pen and ran out only to confront a very strange creature similar to a “tiger” but bipedal in nature and emitting loud grunting sounds. According to the witness the mysterious creature jumped over a wire fence and ran from the area leaving a trail of blood behind. It only took several minutes for the creature to kill the chickens. Also residents from the town of Texan Palomeque have reported seeing what they describe as a “wolf-woman”, which has also killed and decapitated hundreds of chickens in area.

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Source: Martin Morita, Grupo Reforma, Mexico Type: E

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« Reply #149 on: Feb 20th, 2004, 6:56pm »

Strange encounter in Poland:

Location. Jordanow, Poland
Date: January 13 2004 Time: 0258A
48-year old, L K was lying in bed with his face turned towards the window. Suddenly he woke up with a strange feeling that something odd was happening in the street. He opened his eyes and noticed a ball, which was hanging in the sky. It shone with a white-blue silvery light---like the moon---but it was 2-3 times bigger than the moon. He immediately looked at the clock and noticed the time. He looked around the bedroom and saw his wife and dog sleeping calmly. The witness then felt very dizzy and went to sleep again. That same night he had another strange experience. While in a half-awake state in his bed he heard a strange female voice, which repeated a passage read in an unknown language (the witness is an interpreter and speaks five foreign languages fluently). Feeling afraid he covered his head with a pillow. He immediately checked all the electrical devices in the room but they were all turned off, except for the icebox. His wife and dog again slept calmly. The witness also heard the strange voice the next night.

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Source: Robert K Lesniakiewicz, Poland Type: F?
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