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« Reply #15 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 5:44pm »

shocked Now that was a heck of a sighting. Art Bell on the radio.
George Noory (and Art Bell) sure need to read this!!!!!




Thanx bunches for posting THIS!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 6:47pm »

on Mar 6th, 2008, 5:44pm, witcheyred wrote:
shocked Now that was a heck of a sighting. Art Bell on the radio.
George Noory (and Art Bell) sure need to read this!!!!!




Thanx bunches for posting THIS!!!!!!!!

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Hi,

What's odd is that they posted the pic and brief description on Coast, yet as far as I know, none of the hosts have made one peep about it. I'm not exactly sure why that's the situation either, since I think I've been pretty clear about spelling it out. All I can say, is these cases here in Denton are the most impressive I've ever been party to!

On the otherhand, I have received some very kind words in response to all this from Brad Steiger. He's privately pointed out the parallels to the things he discusses in his book, Shadow World.

That book is the next one I'm ordering, for sure. Not even waiting for me to get it, earlier today, Brad sent me the following link to download a podcast interview he just did about Shadow World - http://uncannyradio.com

With all of his years of research, writing, and experience, I'm sure all of us could learn a thing or two from Brad's well considered observations and opinions. To find out more about him and his wife's life long love affair with things Fortean, please visit this site -
www.bradandsherry.com

Ciao!
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 09:22am »

Merry Meet orbhunterx!

I was thinking the same thing last nite when Iwas posting that about them. I'm going to email George Noory. I think you only get a response on air or by email if you subscribe to their streamlink. Which I'm thinking about doing.

How is "Bob" doing since his encounter?

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« Reply #18 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 1:21pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 09:22am, witcheyred wrote:
Merry Meet orbhunterx!

I was thinking the same thing last nite when Iwas posting that about them. I'm going to email George Noory. I think you only get a response on air or by email if you subscribe to their streamlink. Which I'm thinking about doing.

How is "Bob" doing since his encounter?

b. j.




Hailz Good Witch!

The thing is I AM a streamlink member. Perhaps it's just a matter of popular demand. They're probably flooded up to their gill slits with assorted and sundry posts, begs, rants... and the occasional gem.

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« Reply #19 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 3:10pm »

Greetings Orbhunterx!!!

Well--- that shot that theory in the foot! tongue


But I emailed him anyway

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« Reply #20 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 3:36pm »

on Mar 7th, 2008, 3:10pm, witcheyred wrote:
Greetings Orbhunterx!!!

Well--- that shot that theory in the foot! tongue


But I emailed him anyway

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I personally appreciate you doing what you feel will help get this out there, so more people can come forward.

I've been told that this whole process has been extremely helpful to those, on their own, who inwardly fought with the reality of this sort of thing, in the face of rank disbelief.

Until I breath my last, I'll see to it, in my own small way, that the lies, ridicule, and ignorance regarding these matters come to an end. It's obvious even to a child, that much of the secrecy has proved unhealthy for everyone. I want a future where truth, acceptance, and proper study is encouraged and respected!

With that lofty goal in mind, I created a thread on the following page -

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message516020/pg1

Sincerely,
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 1:32pm »

Hey Peoples,

Engaged in a rather illuminating catnap, a rather obscure, though interesting bit of science, came to mind. What I'm about to relate may surprisingly have a direct bearing on the two observations of UFOs over Denton.

Okay! Okay. Cross my heart and hope to die, I'm not going to start waxing all boring and heady like. Yet, there actually is a dash of real world science I'd like to toss out to everyone. You see, there's an aerospace technique called, Aerocapture.

"Aerocapture within fiction can be read in Arthur C. Clarke's novel 2010: Odyssey Two, in which two spacecraft (one Russian, one Chinese) both use aerocapture in Jupiter's atmosphere to shed their excess velocity and position themselves for exploring Jupiter's satellites. This can be seen as a special effect in the movie version (created by MGM/released by Warner Home Video) in which only a Russian spacecraft undergoes aerocapture (in the film incorrectly called aerobraking), which is demonstrated via special effects."

Found on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerocapture

Intrigued? Confused? Perplexed? Indescribable?

Please bear with me a little longer... This means of planetary deceleration is not for the faint of heart. No, do not try this at home kids! Basically, "this approach requires significant thermal protection and precision closed-loop guidance during the maneuver." (Also from the Wikipedia page)

Getting to the point, what propelled me faster than a drunk, penniless sailor out the front doors of a nudie bar, was being asked some specific questions about my first UFO sighting here. Chris deserves a big hand for daring to ask me some important questions. For anyone who can read, yes, they're posted here in the forum. ;-)

His simple questions got the wheels turning in my insane membrane! Do yourself a favor, scan through this forum, and see for yourself. In short, Chris raised questions I shared about the glow, amber color, chevron shape, and peculiar skipping motion of the object I witnessed on Jan 20th of this year.

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This NASA artist's rendition of aerobraking is close, but not doesn't exactly match the shape I saw. Keep reading though, it swear it gets better...

Aerospace research is making fast strides forward into the future. Serious work, which involves "aerobraking" to drop speed, is currently being conducted by scientists at the Georgia Institute of Technology -

http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/reshor/rh-ss03/sp-studies.html

But wait! There's more!

Let me introduce to you, the one and only -

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Waverider!!!

Warning: Rather highbrow engineering talk on the nitty gritty details of the Waverider research project may be perused -

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/waverider/waverider.shtml

Later on, I'll post more on the second UFO sighting I reported to MUFON on March 4th, and happened within 10 minutes of Bob seeing something weird hovering in the sky across town!!!

Now it's just my opinion folks, but I think I've again had one of those UREKA moments! Thanks for hanging your hat on the star of my ramblings.

Lance
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 3:03pm »

The following message was posted, in regards to the Youtube vids they previously gave linkage to, on the Creature of Copper Canyon thread I started on - http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message516020/pg1


"I'm glad someone bothered to look at them, lol. The similarities are pretty amazing, not just to the recent drawing but its almost a prefect match with the older sightings too.

I haven't had time to read through Lance's UFOcasebook posts yet, freaky stuff all round. I live on the Limestone Coast in Australia, and there's been wierd happenings around here for a long time. Lots of caves and ufo sightings around here, i really think there's something going on underground."


Underground he says!

Funny how my own speculations regarding that possible connection was prompted by something quite unusual. You see, after the meeting on Feb 19th, when Bob told us about seeing that startling being for the first time, I convinced him to return to the place that very night. And when we got the spot, the descriptions and recollections he gave us were extremely compelling.

However, wrapping the audio interview and replay of events I'd prompted Bob to take part in, all of a sudden, a stranger pulled up, parked, and got out of his car. The white, bearded, middle aged man seemed friendly enough. We were soon to realize he wasn't a police officer or curious property owner.

No, the first thing he did was point out the huge flame shooting upward, less than 1/4 of a mile away! He quickly dove in conversation, asking if we were there looking at the fire in the sky. Like deer caught in the headlights,
or some passing alien, we haplessly found ourselves agreeing with him.

Now, we had all previously seen that gushing skyward flame for miles as we had driven down Teasly Rd. But, since none present knew one iota about it, believe it or not, all of us had previously dismissed it. Our focus and attention had been solely on otherworldly matters.

The fact that this man refocused our attention on the enormous fire, that seemed to lick the stars, came as a bit of a shock when we all turned to stare at it. At that point I know we were all wondering how in blazes we could have blown off something like that. Talk about priorities.

He then began a non-stop, 20 minute exposition on the gas drilling of the Barnett Shale, 8000 feet straight down beneath our feet! With some basic college study of Geology, I was able to follow as he went on to explain that the drilling has taken on a massive expansion. The details and degree of knowledge he demonstated was phenomenal in itself; especially the part he mentioned about an even deeper sea!

I was still soaking it all in, as he wrapped it up and prepared to leave. At least one of our investigators was quick of wit enough to ask for some of his business cards. Turns out he's a financial investment advisor, who was trying to drum up attendence to a workshop for those selling their mineral rights; at 10:30 at night, on some back road?

Digesting the strange events of the evening, it wasn't until I was almost home that my brain screamed at me to remember something important. I'd overlooked a piece of the puzzle staring right at me. The UFO I'd seen on Jan 20 had actually flown over a gas drilling platform in my own neighborhood!

I'll pause on that note. Suffice it to say, I've already spent several hours in the local libraries, try to dig up anything from the geologic record that might account for some of this. Other than 9 reported calls to the Denton County Sheriff's office, of a peculiar earthquake on February 3rd, my research will take me to a nearby university, where I understand the government itself is responsible for the keeping the documentation I wish to examine...
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 4:29pm »

Greetings All, I’m new here, sorry for the long post but this story has answered a big mystery for me and I feel a need to explain.

I was drawn to this site through a posting on Godlike Productions regarding the Creature of Copper Canyon. I first noticed the post because a friend has lots of dreams about canyons that involve advanced technology among other things. Her and I were discussing February 19th at length just last night because it kept coming up everywhere we looked. When I saw the date of this encounter I was compelled to read further. The rest of the story sounds eerily similar to a dream I had last November.

Before I get to that, there’s a bit to know first. My husband’s father was in the armed forces and died in a car accident in the early 70’s while on military business. His entire family has a lot of unanswered questions about the whole incident. They’ve been trying to figure out for years what really happened because the official version just doesn’t feel right. The father picked up a hitchhiker who was also involved in the crash but apparently had zero recollection of anything (officially post traumatic stress). Apparently he went off the road while rounding a sharp bend.

While my husband doesn’t dwell on this to the point it’s affected his well-being or anything, he does question it from time to time and I know he’d really like some conclusive answers. I offered to contact the authorities or maybe see if we could find the hitchhiker but he didn’t feel any of that would do any good. Plan B is asking for the answer before I fall asleep at night, that works pretty good sometimes. I forgot about this conversation for a couple of weeks, then one night just before I fell asleep I felt a presence in the room and it felt like hubby’s dad. I never met the man and don’t ever recall sensing him before, but that reminded me to ask to have been a fly on the steering wheel that night. This is the dream I had.

Hubby and I were driving down a gravel country road but it was nowhere I've ever been. To our left was a field, then a barbed wire fence, then a row of trees and then what looked like a path or clearing, then a forest.

All of a sudden something happened, I didn't see what, I think I was looking out the passenger window, but it caused hubby to either veer off the road or lose concentration or yell or something, can't really remember what but something happened suddenly. I looked over towards him and then out the windshield and saw a cow running away down the clearing along the row of trees that made up the edge of the forest. The cow was kind of a bronze colour and it was running super fast. I even said to hubby, "check out that cow and how fast it's running, I didn't know a cow could move like that". At first I thought it was a deer because of its colour and the way it was running, but then I saw it was a cow and it was running like a cow would run only really fast. I don't know what hubby was doing but I don't think he saw the cow, I get the feeling he was trying to get the car back on the road and then I woke up.

This dream made me think his dad saw something the army would rather not talk about. The similarities between Bob’s encounter and the dream plus the things that attracted me this story in the first place make me think hubby’s dad definately saw something that night.

-Canyons
-February 19th
-Both parties were rounding a sharp bend
-Bronze is a copper alloy
-The speed of the cow was emphasized
-Both incidents had a fence (I’m assuming since there was a gate there was more than likely a fence)
-Both incidents had a field
-Both beings retreated along the edge of a forest

Yup, that to me is inconclusive evidence! Thanks for this!
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 8:14pm »

Merry Meet RedTwin!

Isn't that something, how it is connected. It's just is a confirmation how everrything is connected.

' We are the Weavers' and' We are the Web'

Unfortunately there are theads in the Web that
are horrible and so destructive.

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« Reply #25 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 10:58pm »

on Mar 8th, 2008, 4:29pm, RedTwin wrote:
Greetings All, I’m new here, sorry for the long post but this story has answered a big mystery for me and I feel a need to explain.

I was drawn to this site through a posting on Godlike Productions regarding the Creature of Copper Canyon. I first noticed the post because a friend has lots of dreams about canyons that involve advanced technology among other things. Her and I were discussing February 19th at length just last night because it kept coming up everywhere we looked. When I saw the date of this encounter I was compelled to read further. The rest of the story sounds eerily similar to a dream I had last November.

Before I get to that, there’s a bit to know first. My husband’s father was in the armed forces and died in a car accident in the early 70’s while on military business. His entire family has a lot of unanswered questions about the whole incident. They’ve been trying to figure out for years what really happened because the official version just doesn’t feel right. The father picked up a hitchhiker who was also involved in the crash but apparently had zero recollection of anything (officially post traumatic stress). Apparently he went off the road while rounding a sharp bend.

While my husband doesn’t dwell on this to the point it’s affected his well-being or anything, he does question it from time to time and I know he’d really like some conclusive answers. I offered to contact the authorities or maybe see if we could find the hitchhiker but he didn’t feel any of that would do any good. Plan B is asking for the answer before I fall asleep at night, that works pretty good sometimes. I forgot about this conversation for a couple of weeks, then one night just before I fell asleep I felt a presence in the room and it felt like hubby’s dad. I never met the man and don’t ever recall sensing him before, but that reminded me to ask to have been a fly on the steering wheel that night. This is the dream I had.

Hubby and I were driving down a gravel country road but it was nowhere I've ever been. To our left was a field, then a barbed wire fence, then a row of trees and then what looked like a path or clearing, then a forest.

All of a sudden something happened, I didn't see what, I think I was looking out the passenger window, but it caused hubby to either veer off the road or lose concentration or yell or something, can't really remember what but something happened suddenly. I looked over towards him and then out the windshield and saw a cow running away down the clearing along the row of trees that made up the edge of the forest. The cow was kind of a bronze colour and it was running super fast. I even said to hubby, "check out that cow and how fast it's running, I didn't know a cow could move like that". At first I thought it was a deer because of its colour and the way it was running, but then I saw it was a cow and it was running like a cow would run only really fast. I don't know what hubby was doing but I don't think he saw the cow, I get the feeling he was trying to get the car back on the road and then I woke up.

This dream made me think his dad saw something the army would rather not talk about. The similarities between Bob’s encounter and the dream plus the things that attracted me this story in the first place make me think hubby’s dad definately saw something that night.

-Canyons
-February 19th
-Both parties were rounding a sharp bend
-Bronze is a copper alloy
-The speed of the cow was emphasized
-Both incidents had a fence (I’m assuming since there was a gate there was more than likely a fence)
-Both incidents had a field
-Both beings retreated along the edge of a forest

Yup, that to me is inconclusive evidence! Thanks for this!


Hi,

Thanks for jumping onboard!

I had no idea of the degree of family involvement in regards to that mysterious death. I share your experience in getting answers right at the threshold of sleep. In my case, I've gotten answers as I've begun to awake, then went back in to ask questions.

A perfect example is my post earlier today. The entire aerocapture/aerobraking vein came in a sudden inspiration as I awoke! It helps explain big time the various aspects of the UFOs I've fortunately seen.

As far as interpreting your own dreams, you are the best one to do that. The cow reference elludes me, other than the fact that certain things can symbolically represent another.

All of the other points reflect nicely with the creature's reported location here, as you gathered. I keep wondering if these beings are so intelligent, and thoughtful, that they may be involved in a long term plan to slowly acclimate us to their existence. Allowing themselves to occasionally be seen here and yonder, might help people be less fearful and more accepting if direct contact is eventually the goal.

I rather hope that's the case, since I don't believe in coincidence either.

Thanks for sharing!

Lance
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on Mar 8th, 2008, 8:14pm, witcheyred wrote:
Merry Meet RedTwin!

Isn't that something, how it is connected. It's just is a confirmation how everrything is connected.

' We are the Weavers' and' We are the Web'

Unfortunately there are theads in the Web that
are horrible and so destructive.

b. j.


It's official! We now have two Reds!!

LOL!

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Hi and thanks for the warm welcome!

"Merry Meet RedTwin! Isn't that something, how it is connected. It's just is a confirmation how everrything is connected".

Thanks Witcheyred! It will never cease to amaze me when this stuff happens. Definitely some higher forces at work.

"It's official! We now have two Reds!!"

Well you know what they say, two reds are better than one smiley (sorry, couldn't resist lol)

The cow has me confused too Lance. Although I’m a little suspicious of the validity of the bible, (I’m a little suspicious of most everything lol) I came across this after my friend had a dream of a golden cow:

In the Hebrew Bible the golden calf was an idol made by Aaron for the Israelites during Moses's unexpectedly long absence. It is first mentioned in Exodus 32:4. In Hebrew the incident is known as "Chet ha'Egel" or "The Sin of the Calf".

When Moses went up onto Mount Sinai to receive the Ten Commandments (Exodus 19:20), he left the Israelites for forty days and forty nights (Exodus 24:18). The Israelites feared that he would not return, and asked Aaron to make gods for them (Exodus 32:1). The Bible does not note Aaron's opinion of this request, merely that he complied, and gathered up the Israelites' golden earrings. He melted them and constructed the golden calf.

Aaron also built an altar before the calf, and the next day, the Israelites made offerings and celebrated.

The Lord told Moses that his people had corrupted themselves, and that he planned to eliminate them, but Moses argued and pleaded that they should be spared (Exodus 32:11); the Lord relented. Moses went down from the mountain, but upon seeing the calf, he too became angry. He threw down the tablets upon which God's law had been written, and broke them. He ground up the golden calf, mixed its powder with water, and forced the Israelites to drink it. Then he gathered the sons of Levi, and set them to slaying a large fraction of adult males. Nevertheless the Lord stated that he would one day visit the Israelites' sin upon them.

Among the Hebrews' neighbors in the Ancient Near East and the Aegean, the Aurochs, the wild bull, was widely worshipped, often as the Lunar Bull and as El. Its Minoan manifestation survived as the Cretan Bull of Greek myth.

The story of the Golden Calf is mentioned in the Qur'an (see Musa (prophet)) in many Suras (e.g. Al-Baqara, An-Nisa, Al-A'raf, Ta-Ha).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

I don’t know what that may mean either, if anything, but I found it interesting.

"I keep wondering if these beings are so intelligent, and thoughtful, that they may be involved in a long term plan to slowly acclimate us to their existence".


That certainly makes sense. I know it took me a long time to digest what I've learned so far and that's only a teeny tiny portion. Too much at once wouldn't be good for anybody.

Cheers!
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« Reply #28 on: Mar 9th, 2008, 7:39pm »

I forgot to mention the most important part. I just remembered when I got up this morning that Hubby's dad's birthday was February 19th.
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« Reply #29 on: Mar 9th, 2008, 9:31pm »

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Thank you for this thread, I have been reading it with real interest. There is definitely a shadow world….. many refer to their sightings of beings from the shadow world as creatures, monsters, ghosts etc… but it is most definitely there. I have read about this shadow world in writings about Shamans and the Celts….. Indigenous peoples know of this shadow world and take it as normal, whereas not westerners… but that seems to be changing, and this thread is proof of that. grin

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