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 1   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Looking for an Alien Implant?  on: Jan 25th, 2018, 09:05am
Started by travex | Post by travex
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 2   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Jan 25th, 2018, 08:12am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jan 24th, 2018, 10:12am, Swamprat wrote:
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science
16 hrs

What does that mean?
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 3   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 24th, 2018, 05:21am
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 20th, 2018, 9:19pm, Nyx wrote:
A question that has been on my mind is how Luis Elizondo just waltzed sensitive UFO tapes out past the Department of Defense into the general public.

As far as I know, no retribution has been put on Elizondo for doing so.

This brings up the question that the Department of Defense wanted this to happen, and could be behind all of this disclosure.

It could be the general public is being lead through the nose by the Department of Defense?

The DoD interest has always been to show to the public the opposite - that the UFO phenomenon has no connection with some ET civilization visiting the Earth. But there is a conflict with what you expect and what you see. Your question would survive intact, had the DOD released a made-up case of a UFO encounter and the case was consequently debunked by respected scientists, meaning the scientists would, for example, produce a very similar video shot by some university folks observing a phenomenon for which there would be a pretty rational explanation. But this is not the case with the released story in question. The observer, Navy pilot David Fravor, hasn't been debunked - there hasn't been even an attempt to do so, like suggesting that the spotted object in the water was actually a whale. So it stands to reason that the intention of the DOD wasn't to undermine the interest in UFO, which is almost extinct anyway.

So what prompted the DOD to do something quite unexpected?

If you happen to catch some of my archive posts, you would learn that the year 2017 marked the 70th anniversary of the Kenneth Arnold sighting, as well as the Roswell UFO crash, with both cases opening the UFO era. So how would the ET's observe the anniversary when all UFO traffic having the only purpose to be seen by us was canceled in 2012?

One way is to temporarily override the decision and lit the skies with something similar to the Phoenix lights, but why bother when there is other, more convenient and more pleasing option?

See, the ET's didn't decide on the cancellation of the UFO effects in 2012; they decided a long time ago, so they had the time to prepare for the event when someone here on earth starts to remind them of the 70th anniversary.

So here is the hypothesis: The ET's made sure that in 2017, the DOD would do something quite unexpected by releasing a UFO related account to the well-respected The New York Times.

But how would one pre-test such a hypothesis?

Well, you need to be familiar with the ET's mind a bit. They, as much as we, know that pilots like to estimate the size of larger objects by comparison to planes. The observing Navy pilot didn't make an exemption.

When the two fighters got to the assigned location, they spotted a disturbance under the water, Fravor said. To him, it looked like something the size of a Boeing 737 airplane was underneath, causing waves to break over it.

But there was another mysterious object present, the one which got airborne and which Fravor described thusly:

Fravor said he was on a routine training mission off the coast of California when he witnessed a 40-foot “wingless object” that he described as a Tic Tac.

So you have something the size of Boeing 737 and another something, a wingless object 40 feet long. It's obvious that you need to convert to common unit of length.

The Boeing 737 is a short-to-medium-range twinjet narrow-body airliner developed and manufactured by Boeing Commercial Airplanes in the United States. Wikipedia
Wingspan: 117′ 0″
Length: 110′

As it stands, this is the length of two mysterious objects that Navy pilot David Fravor described:

Submerged object: 110'
"Tic Tac" object: 40'

That means the length difference between both objects is

110 - 40 = 70

Okay. And so what?

Happy 70th anniversary of the beginning of the UFO era, Nyx.

(You should tell the esteemed Forum the truth - the whole truth. It's not much about what you saw, but what you saw and started shooting at. The ET's just wanted you to fill a questionaire - they were short of human UFO pilots and were hiring.)

One coincidence cannot decide the case, though. There is more coming and when you put math on it, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of the case whereby the ET's hacked the mind of the Pentagon folks and made them release an account of a UFO sighting, which they prepared in 2004 not only for the upcoming Indonesian tsunami event, but also for the case someone on Earth mentions the 70th anniversary. (Yes, they can read the Internet gibberish.)

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 4   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: asks Nick Pope's honest opinion  on: Jan 22nd, 2018, 03:51am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jan 21st, 2018, 8:42pm, Nyx wrote:
Of course in my opinion, I disagree with Mr.Pope.

Pope will be eventually excommunicated by his successor, like it happened to Formosus.

Probably around January 897, Stephen VI ordered that the corpse of his predecessor Formosus be removed from its tomb and brought to the papal court for judgment. With the corpse propped up on a throne, a deacon was appointed to answer for the deceased pontiff.

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There is a region of interest in this part of human history that the ET's once pointed out:

The trial was conducted by Pope Stephen VI (sometimes called Stephen VII), who was the successor to Formosus' successor, Pope Boniface VI. Stephen accused Formosus of perjury and of having acceded to the papacy illegally. At the end of the trial, Formosus was pronounced guilty and his papacy retroactively declared null.

The reason why Stephen VI was sometimes called Stephen VII is to consider the year of the trial 897. This is an "unnatural" year, as opposed to the "natural" year 789, where the natural order 7, 8, 9 exists. To fix 897, the digit 7 must be placed in front. If you apply similar process to the name of the dead defendant FORMOSUS and place the 7th letter U to the front of the name, something familiar shows up: UFORMOS S.

When the alien implants start firing, there is not much Homo sapiens could ever do but comply with the instructions no matter how crazy they got - like digging up a dead body and putting it on trial, which is very unnatural thing to do - unless it happens in an unnatural year like 897 AD.

The conclusion made by MoD that UFO is not a threat means that UFO is not an obvious threat - a threat akin to the scenes taken from movie "Mars Attacks" and the likes.

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 5   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Making Sense of the "Tic Tac" UFO  on: Jan 22nd, 2018, 02:25am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jan 20th, 2018, 11:39am, thelmadonna wrote:
I also don't read any of the links. I have nothing to learn from you.

In that case you should ignore my posts and stop trolling the threads with your ad hominem remarks.

If you are anywhere as clever as you think you are Why haven;t you solved the likes of Fukishima?

I did solve the mystery of Fukushima, meaning the mystery of the sea water getting into the reactor causing it to blow up: Since "C" is spelled not only as "see" but also as "sea," the sea water penetrated Fukushima reactor right here: FU*KUSHIMA. That's why the whole thing blew into the pieces: FU*K-US-HIM-A

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 6   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Making Sense of the "Tic Tac" UFO  on: Jan 20th, 2018, 01:33am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jan 19th, 2018, 07:34am, thelmadonna wrote:
Now I know for sure you are not right in the head!

LOL. You must be surely one of those real scientists, like Seth Shostak from the SETI.

Why Real Scientists Think Aliens Would Never Eat Humans

I think I've been reading too much of the "the truth is out there" UFO literature.

Why don't you go and look in the mirror?

You really are sick, sapiens.
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 7   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Making Sense of the "Tic Tac" UFO  on: Jan 19th, 2018, 01:57am
Started by travex | Post by travex
This, probably final part, may rather appeal to those folks who prefer the traditional way of looking at the UFO cases of this category.

It's been long suspected that Pentagon has plenty of files containing reports on encounters between UFO's and the military installations of various kinds. From incidents, like the one involving a strange submersible object and its "Tic Tac" company, it seems to be that the encounters are initiated by the ET's themselves. If it's so, why?

Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful to make friends with the ET's, so they could spy on the Russians with complete impunity?

It's November 2004 and two Navy pilots report an encounter with an underwater object that was absolutely unfamiliar to them. The next month, a colossal tsunami devastates coastal areas in Indonesia. Was it possible that the ET's informed Pentagon of a new weapons system idea?

Russia’s developing 100 megaton dirty Tsunami Creating submarine drone bomb

And that's supposed to be news? According to the Nimitz UFO sighting story that The New York Times broke in the last month of 2017, the ET's informed the Pentagon already in 2004 that the Russians got the idea of developing a nukes-carrying underwater drone that would create a super-massive tsunami that would put out of business naval installations. Has your aircraft carrier Nimitz suffered a battle damage and needs a repair? Tough luck - there is no facility to repair the carrier. The tsunami took it all inland.

It is a known fact that only the president can direct the use of nuclear weapons, so let's do once again the initial verification process that ties the Nimitz UFO encounter to the Indonesia tsunami and consequently to the tsunami-creating nuclear torpedo:

In November 14, 2004, the date of the UFO encounter, the Supreme Commander of US armed Forces was George W. Bush - the 43. US president. Counting that day as Day #1, it turns out that the Day #43 was December 26, 2004 - the fateful day when tens of thousands earth-based humans drowned falling victims to a huge tsunami. Did the Pentagon analysts also count and compare saying hmm... that's a weird coincidence?

Well, we'll find out on January 29, 2018.

This is kind of boring, though. The news from Russia is far more exciting: The Russians wanted the "nuclear torpedo" - the symbolic model of which the Navy pilots saw during the encounter back in November 2004. The problem was that the Russian designers ran into serious technical difficulties. And so, on one nice day, a UFO landed near Magnitogorsk, Russia, and an exchange took place. An ET dressed in silver overalls handed blueprints to a Russian general who turned back to approximately one hundred children and ordered them to board the alien craft. Then he became kind of curious and asked the ET: "Listen, what you are going to do with those kids?" The ET guy gave him an incredulous look and said: "What do you mean? We eat them, don't you know? Yummy, yummy."

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 8   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 16th, 2018, 7:47pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 16th, 2018, 5:06pm, Swamprat wrote:

The fighters conferred with the Princeton and were told to head to a rendezvous point 60 miles away. They headed toward it when the Princeton told them that radar had picked up the object again — already at the rendezvous point.

When the two jets got there, the object had disappeared. Why it decided to go there of all places is a mystery, Fravor said.

And it will remain a mystery, because the idea that the ET's monitor the radio traffic and understand its content will never materialize in our silly heads.

This is a complete comedy... rolleyes

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 9   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Strange Silence  on: Jan 15th, 2018, 9:50pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jan 13th, 2018, 5:42pm, Nyx wrote:
I have already said at UFOCB how the FA-18 tape has just died in oblivion.

I don't think that the cause of that directly leads to Kevin Randle. There is a definitely a difference between what you expected and what you see. It is mighty strange that Kevin Randle wouldn't mention the NYT article, as he paid so much attention to a Roswell Daily Record article written 70 years ago. Our mind surely works in the mysterious ways...

So, you have a UFO related article published in a prestigious newspaper, like the New York Times; the interview with a pilot is available and there is no debunking attempt to show that the pilot mistook the described object in the water for a whale, but it seems not to be enough. Yet UFO fans will sooner or later discuss other, far less significant UFO cases and keep whining that the government is hiding the truth. Now that's truly insane. Fortunately the ET's have been around, so we could successfully upgrade from the Stone Age to the Bronze Age.

Kevin Randle didn't pay attention and that's why he flunk the test.


ET psychologist: The name that you see on the screen has W in the middle. Mr. Randle, can you think of a person with a middle name that starts with W?

Kevin: Sure I can: Ros W. Ell.

ET psychologist: But that's not a name belonging to a real person.

Kevin: Well, there are many folks with the middle name initial W.

ET psychologist: How about 'Chester W. Nimitz'?

Kevin: Yes, that's one of the examples. But why would you think of exactly this name?

ET psychologist: My choice was guided by a circumstance.

Kevin: What circumstance?

ET psychologist: Never mind... Your IQ is unusually high, Mr. Randle.

Kevin: Really? I'm glad to hear that.

ET psychologist: I don't. See, IQ means Ignorance Quotient around here.

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 10   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 14th, 2018, 10:16pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 13th, 2018, 10:54pm, nofooln wrote:
For starters, we don't know for a fact that we are being visited by ET.

I based my remark on what you wrote previously; namely, "If they are here, and it sure does seem that they are...," giving it the meaning that the degree of certainty reflected by the word "sure" is enough to go ahead and speculate beyond the usual point whether UFOs are real or not. Now I see that you are taking much more cautious approach.

While I say that they have not made contact, they have shown themselves to us many times using objects that we can't duplicate. That in itself is a form of communication. Actions translated to words: “We are here, we are more advanced than you, and we will go where we want to.”

Why would they repeat that sentence so many times using "different words?" The type of UFOs wide variety of behavior rather suggest that different messages are send out to... very likely to someone who can actually read it.

They did or tried to make a contact the same way you turn your flashlight on and off hoping someone will see it. The description someone is turning his flashlight on and off and someone is turning his flashlight in a particular manner makes a big difference. Repeating pulses, like _ _ _. . . _ _ _ mean a distress signal - if you are aware of the Morse code. If you don't, the pulses wouldn't make sense to you and the light would be found to behave in a bizarre manner, which is the same conclusion J. Allen Hynek reached after the US military had asked him to look into the UFO situation.

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 11   General UFO & Alien Board / The Strange Silence  on: Jan 13th, 2018, 5:20pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
One would expect that Kevin Randle at least acknowledges the recent NYT disclosure and adds some remarks of his own, but his blog shows the opposite.
His recent posts deal with long-forgotten cases instead, mainly with the alleged Sorroco UFO landing of 1964. What was it that made Kevin Randle to stay away from the excitement over the NYT story that was supported by a credible witness - an experienced Navy pilot?

Someone should find an answer, because if we fail to figure out how the human mind works, there is a little chance of ever figuring what is going on in the alien head.
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 12   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 12th, 2018, 11:51pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 8th, 2018, 12:15am, nofooln wrote:
If they are here, and it sure does seem that they are, they have their own agenda, and it doesn't involve our approval. Their agenda could benefit us, but most certainly it benefits them.

How can you say that their agenda "most certainly benefits them" without having the slightest idea what that agenda is?

How can you possibly say that their agenda doesn't need our approval with all the UFO cases reported? Or is it completely out of question that a set of related UFO sightings asks if it is okay to do this or that? Of course, when it becomes apparent that the UFO situation is met with unparallel ignorance and the only interest is to cash on it by starting some religion-like movement, then there is nothing much the aliens can do but to go ahead with their "agenda."
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 13   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 9th, 2018, 11:57pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 4th, 2018, 11:06am, Nyx wrote:
This story just died into oblivion, no follow up which is the way most UFO stories go.

There was an uncertainty "out there," which newspaper would break the story. At the end, my suggestion prevailed as the choice, because I pointed out that you would take it sort of hard that the story would die off, buried in the usual goulash of circular arguments.

The Washington Post was also considered, but since there is a BELIEF in the UFO, as much there is a BELIEF in God, I presented the Christian crosses once again to the consideration.

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As you see, your nick NYX ends with the St. Andrew's cross. So if your nick ends with a cross, and the abbreviation NYT ends with a cross (the St. Anthony's version) there is a strong comprehensive link between your board name and the acronym of The New York Times.

NYX <--------> NYT

The "elder" ET-based humans hacked the mind of the folks at NYT and that was it. Well, they had to do some hacking within the military as well, because there is no way the Pentagon would release this type of info to the newspeople. The last time it did was 70 years ago and it started up the Roswell case. (Happy anniversary!). This time, however, it will not start anything that the earth-based humans could notice and find out of the ordinary. It's like seeing letters X and T - an ordinary letters.

Nyx, does your interest/obsession with the UFO bother you in some way? Maybe I could pass a word "out there" and free you from it. I mean, I cannot do the freeing personally, because I've been suspended and demoted for "gross disobedience." But I can put in a word for you, even though I'm rather skeptical about it.

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 14   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 8th, 2018, 8:05pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 4th, 2018, 11:06am, Nyx wrote:
This story just died into oblivion, no follow up which is the way most UFO stories go.

That's because you didn't write to your congressman as told.

Note that the request on the MUFON page drew 0 comments, strongly suggesting that MUFON finally fell into The Well of Galactic Oblivion and took the flying saucers with it.

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 15   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 7th, 2018, 9:05pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 4th, 2018, 2:23pm, Swamprat wrote:
Cameron offers an update:

The update doesn't walk along a realistic path right from the beginning. There has been no attempt on the part of the government to confuse the UFO community with some bogus UFO story, because the UFO community didn't make any claims recently that would unnerve the general public. The lack of new and apparent UFO sightings is one reason of that. There is really no reason for the government to step in and start "confusing."

Surely, when a respected news media, like The New York Times, breaks a UFO related story, the coyotes gather round to have a bite of the interest, like that German company, which simply claimed that the video was actually its intellectual property. If this completely unsupported claim can derail the investigation, then the UFO community poses no problem to the public whatsoever.

It would be kind of different if the UFO community turned its interest to the 70th anniversary of the Roswell case, which started by a local NM newspaper printing a story that involved the military and a UFO. The speculation would involve a guess about which newspaper will print a story in the anniversary year 2017, which would again involve the military and UFO. Those UFO researchers correctly guessing The New York Times would be regarded as the foremost experts on the subject of alien behavior.

The reality is quite different, though. Even though the ET's made sure that the still photo of the object resembles in shape the one drawn by Kenneth Arnold 70 years ago, the anniversary connection between the articles in Roswell Daily Record and The New York Times is not mentioned - not even as a curious coincidence.

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 16   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Jan 7th, 2018, 01:45am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jan 4th, 2018, 4:08pm, Swamprat wrote:
Nimitz UFO-Video: Alleged Trace to German Film Production Company Leads to a Mysterious Dead End:

While the media interest in the unveiling of a secret UFO research program by the US Department of Defense through the “New York Times” is still unbroken, independent researchers are investigating the information and videos presented. Especially for the alleged UFO-encounter of the USS Nimitz Aircraft Carrier Combat Group in November 2004, which was actually well confirmed by at least two military eyewitnesses, the trace of the accompanying video leads to a German film production company, whose specialties are also 2- and 3D animation and special effects..........Understandably, this fact still raises doubts among many observers, investigators and skeptics about the authenticity and origin of the video, which is described by the “New York Times” and the “To The Stars Academy” as “officially released by the US government”.


How about asking the other pilot whether the footage agree with what he saw on his screen back in 2004?

It's true that things don't match as expected. Cmdr. David Fravor describes the day of the encounter as beautiful.
He recalled flying his F/A-18 fighter on a training mission on a beautiful Southern California day 13 years ago when things started to get strange.

But the FLIR camera returned the image of a heavy cloud cover. That's kind of odd.

I don't think that anyone would bother with finding at least one of the Navy pilots who chased the "Tic Tac" above the clouds and got its picture. There could have been easily more "bogies" involved.

"So we turned around — we couldn't have been more than about a couple miles away — and there's no white water at all in the ocean," Fravor said. "It's just blue."

According to the color scheme... Well, there is no color scheme. Sure, we use it for instructions,
but the ET's are generally viewed as retarded reptilians not capable of any meaningful communication of that kind.

But remember that Seth Shostak of SETI, who saw the video, mentioned the strange thing that the object was always at the center of the screen. So if the date of the encounter was 2004 November, or 200411, copy 200411 and paste it to the window marked with the pound (#) sign right here:

Press the Enter key and the "object" will appear in the lower-right corner. Now, move the object with your mouse to the center of the RGB square and decode the message...


See? It's easy.

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 17   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Jan 6th, 2018, 8:08pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Jan 6th, 2018, 11:44am, Swamprat wrote:
But when I watched it, I noticed that the cluster was always in the center of the field of view — which suggests that these “craft” were actually caused by the instruments aboard the plane rather than something in the airspace in front of it.

A classic example of pseudoscience. Shostak finds the reason for the cluster being always in the center of the on-board instruments display without him having the slightest idea about how the instruments actually work. If he knew, he would have elaborated... Shostak suggests that the instruments are not reliable and create images that in all actuality don't exist. If someone had suggested to him that Fermi paradox is caused by SETI unreliable technology, Shostak would have vehemently objected right away.

Furthermore, Shostak wipes out any possibility of technological advancement that the hypothetical ET's obviously must posses, such as the capacity of making sure that the followed object would always appear in the center. But what would be the reason for that?

Well, if the object is intelligently guided and not an artifact, there must be an intelligent mind manning the joystick. There are several IQ tests which ask to identify and properly place a unique item. For example, the center point of a circle is such a unique item. In the case of the first three letters of the alphabet - A, B, C - the apparent unique item is A, because it is the only vowel among consonants. Therefore it should be placed in the unique place, which is the center.


The same applies to "UFO" where F is the only consonant among the vowels. So if the ET's want to accent the option that what you see on your display is actually a UFO, the operator will make sure that the object (UFO) is always in the center of the screen.

It is apparent that Shostak is not the one who would ever succeed in his endeavor. But he deserves a kudo for noticing the special behavior of the object in question having the tendency to stay in the center of the display. The contemporary UFO researchers wouldn't even raise this point for being too busy to weave all kinds of conspirator theories instead. No wonder that folks, like Bonehead, get bored sooner or later. But there are other folks who love it - all the hoopla about the government hiding the "truth." It's like a salad bar menu...

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 18   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Jan 5th, 2018, 7:14pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jan 2nd, 2018, 8:28pm, ZETAR wrote:

"Is there any way the ET's would support the similarity between both shapes?"



I think we must ask about it the five-star general who commands the platoon of ZETA Reptilians from ZETA Reticuli.
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 19   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Making Sense of the "Tic Tac" UFO  on: Jan 5th, 2018, 6:57pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Dec 23rd, 2017, 7:45pm, travex wrote:
1st day: November 14, 2004
43th day: December 26, 2004

The following part has a bit advanced feature. It starts a process of confirmation and again rests on the premise that connects two events through the rank and order.

It's true that Chester W. Nimitz, which the involved aircraft carrier was named after, was a fleet admiral, but above him was the president as the supreme commander. Since the observed object was spotted in the water - not long before the huge tsunami devastated the coastal areas of Indonesia - one would suspect that the order of US presidents is the link between the date the object was spotted by the Navy pilots and the date the monster tsunami hit, as shown in the previous post. Here is the argument once again. If the day the object was spotted is the day number 1, and, in the year 2004, the 43rd president of USA George W. Bush was in office, then

Day 1: November 14, 2004 (UFO spotted in the water)
Day 43: December 26, 2004 (Indonesian tsunami)

Note the W=W identity in the middle names of both top commanders.

Chester W. Nimitz
George W. Bush

The identical middle name initials stand in this case for parameters Where/What = West/Wind that the observing pilot must mention during the in-flight conversation: The wind is 120 knots to the west.

Now pay attention to the complement of the initial W in the word "wind."


The complement IND doesn't not stand for INDIANA but INDONESIA where the killer tsunami originated.

The above relationship is not that difficult to uncover, but the next one is virtually out of reach for the earth-based human mind, because it involves character transformations:

1) water--> ?

2) water--> H2O | chemical symbol of water

3) water--> H2O --> ?

4) water--> H2O --> HHO | two molecules of Hydrogen and one molecule of Oxygen

5) water--> H2O --> HHO --> ?

6) water--> H2O --> HHO --> 118 | atomic numbers of elements: H=1, O=8

7) water--> H2O --> HHO --> 118 --> ?

8) water --> H2O --> HHO --> 118 --> 1-18 | a separation takes place (why?)

9) water --> H2O --> HHO --> 118 --> A-18 | the first letter of the alphabet is A, or 1=A; it is no longer 1=H. Hence the separation 1-18.

10) water --> H2O --> HHO --> 118 --> A-18 --> ?

This is extremely difficult; our brain is not just advanced enough to go on and transform further. But we can ask UFO pilot colonel Natasha Chimponello and she said that A-18 is an incomplete statement. So we ask her nicely, give her a treat, and she will complete for us.

A-18 --> F/A-18 Super Hornet

On November 14, 2004, two F/A-18F Super Hornets from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz off the coast of San Diego were contacted while on a training mission by a nearby U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser, USS Princeton, and instructed to investigate a mysterious aircraft that Princeton had been tracking for two weeks.

That's why the pilot of the F/A-18 Super Hornet spotted the UFO for the first time in the water. That's because there is a transformation link between water and the name of the jet fighter they flew.

water -----------> F/A-18 Super Hornet

Unlike the mismatched video, the conversation between both Navy pilots was genuine and it described exactly what they saw. The ET's anti-hoax measures cannot be breached, because the current state of human mind is not capable of defeating those measures.

Edit: BOTH the video and the conversation relates to some other encounter between the Navy and a UFO, but it refers to the one that took place off Southern California coast on November 14, 2004. This crap is way too advanced to be followed. rolleyes
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 20   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Jan 2nd, 2018, 6:55pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Dec 20th, 2017, 2:10pm, travex wrote:
And so, finally, effective December 21, 2012, common sense prevailed over the hope out there and all manifestations of UFO were canceled. Good. It's been only attracting the attention of semi-derranged debunkers.

The notion that the UFO research is in the state of complete desolation is supported by the video embedded in the original NYT article.

The pilot described the shape of the mysterious object as closely resembling Tic Tac, but the image captured doesn't support that description. Does it even matter to anyone, anymore?

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The shape rather resembles the one that Kenneth Arnold provided back in 1947.

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Is there any way the ET's would support the similarity between both shapes?

Definitely so.

Just select these two parameters from the Kenneth Arnold sighting: Where and What.

Where: Washington (state)
What: 9 objects

The minimal reduction of the data leaves you with single leading characters.

Where: W
What: 9

Here is the trick. If you also reduce Where and When to single characters, you end up with two W's and the parameters would be reduced to their bare minimum:

W: W
W: 9

There is a relationship between the characters above and it asks a question.

W = W
W = 9?

In other words, if W=W, does also W=9?

Hardly so, because W is the 23rd letter in the alphabet - not the 9th.

That's true, but there is a circumstance where W=9 is correct:

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See that W? It shares the same(=) position(left) with 9 on another "circle."

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The pilots pretty much understand that W=9, because Boggie 9 o'clock has the same meaning as Boggie to the west.

Using the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting, the ET's reinforced direction West.


Because they were going to hack the mind of a person who wrote the pilots' conversation into the video and force an error involving the W(west) direction. See, confusing the mind of an enemy through neural hacking is a weapon that Pentagon would love to have in its arsenal. So, here is the corrected "westerly"error.

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The text originally mentioned MILES not KNOTS. Here is the error acknowledgement:

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Now, you can backstep from


all the way to

Where: Washington (state)
What: 9 objects

which are the Where/When parameters of the Kenneth Arnold sighting of 1947.

But what about the speed of the wind - those 120 knots? The clue Wind = West calls for more, after all.

Well, sapiens, can you build something out of those three kinds of digits 1, 2, and 0?

Sure. Anytime. cool

1 2 0 --> 12212012

Our build - 12212012 - means the notorious "Mayan" end date: 12/21/2012. That's the date ET's decided to stop all UFO activities, because any continuation would be really a waste of time. The ET's hacked the mind of the military brass as well and made it end its UFO investigation also in 2012 in sync.

Pentagon admits it had a UFO program, claims it ended in 2012

The ET's quit because we have never shown them anything apart from whining that the government is hiding the truth about UFO. What truth? The government knows crap about who the ET's actually are and what incredible tech capabilities they posses.

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 21   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: NYT Puts Big Article Out On Pentagon UFO Fundi  on: Dec 30th, 2017, 3:18pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Dec 29th, 2017, 2:35pm, Swamprat wrote:

It is claimed the program ended in 2012, however Mr Elizondo said that he had continued to work with officials from the Navy and the CIA on the program until he resigned from office in October.

Why did the program end in 2012?

Mainly because the government adjusted to the changes announced by the ET's.
(Thread started on the 5th anniversary of the "doomsday.")

The government investigators didn't have to waste time proving to themselves that what they had seen in the footage was a real deal, so they tried to figure out the purpose of the alien activities, and they succeeded to a certain extent. That means they figured out that the ET's had scheduled a general stop to all UFO activities here on Earth effective 12/21/2012.

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 22   General UFO & Alien Board / Making Sense of the "Tic Tac" UFO  on: Dec 23rd, 2017, 7:45pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
There was no single purpose in the display that took place back in November 14, 2004. The shape of the exhibit was decided upon with respect to the scheduled extraordinary follow up later: an article dealing with UFO published in The New York Times!!! That's probably more surprising event than a flying saucer landing on the White House lawn.

Yes, lots of Homo sapiens still remain curious creatures and that's why The New York Times folks felt obliged to do some explaining:

Our readers are plenty interested in unidentified flying objects. We know that from the huge response to our front-page Sunday article (published online just after noon on Saturday) revealing a secret Pentagon program to investigate U.F.O.s. The piece, by the Pentagon correspondent Helene Cooper, the author Leslie Kean and myself — a contributor to The Times after a 45-year staff career — has dominated the most.

Note that the curiosity didn't involve the debilitating issue of the described object being "real" or not, but it concerned the path leading to the unusual - the publishing of the article in a place you would expect the least. So we've scored some points out there...

Here is a paragraph in the explanatory NYT article, which directly deals with the decision what type of shape the UFO would be available for perusal to the Navy pilots.

She learned it was a secret effort, funded at the initiative of the then Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, starting in 2007, to investigate aerial threats including what the military preferred to call “unidentified aerial phenomena” or just “objects.” This was big news because the United States military had announced as far back as 1969 that U.F.O.s were not worth studying. Leslie also learned that Mr. Elizondo had just resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition — the reason for the meeting.

Does anyone see any link between the "Tic-Tac" shape, as one of the pilots correctly described it, and the paragraph above?

See, the UFO displays are designed by extraterrestrial humans, and they are extremely clever, so it may be difficult for us to uncover hidden links like that.

Here is the paragraph once again:

She learned it was a secret effort, funded at the initiative of the then Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, starting in 2007, to investigate aerial threats including what the military preferred to call “unidentified aerial phenomena” or just “objects.” This was big news because the United States military had announced as far back as 1969 that U.F.O.s were not worth studying. Leslie also learned that Mr. Elizondo had just resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition — the reason for the meeting.

Did that red highlight help?

No? Well, lets zoom in once more and the lock clicks right away:

She learned it was a secret effort, funded at the initiative of the then Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, starting in 2007, to investigate aerial threats including what the military preferred to call “unidentified aerial phenomena” or just “objects.” This was big news because the United States military had announced as far back as 1969 that U.F.O.s were not worth studying.Leslie also learned that Mr. Elizondo had just resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition — the reason for the meeting.

Tic Tacs were first introduced by Ferrero in 1969, under the name "Refreshing Mints".

The identity 1969=1969 ties a Tic Tac UFO with the statement that UFO's were not worth of studying. There could be a benefit from studying the language UFO speaks - perhaps lots of people's lives could be saved. Here is the argument:

It was the military that observed the Tic Tac UFO, and we know that the president is the supreme commander of the armed forces. Back in 2004 when the Tic Tac UFO was approached by the F/A-18 Hornet fighter, the president was George W. Bush - the 43rd President of the United States. Since some earth-based humans didn't agree with the conclusion that studying behavior of UFO's is a waste of time, they know how to convert data. In this case, the ordinal number 43 means number of days into the future. Now set the day of the UFO encounter as day 1 and count all the way up to the 43th day. This is the result.

1st day: November 14, 2004
43th day: December 26, 2004

On that day, December 26, 2004, the telemetry of the ET humans also showed something similar to the Tic Tac UFO - except those objects were floating in the water still.

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Here is the way the link between Where and When (day/month) was made:

The undersea megathrust earthquake was caused when the Indian Plate was subducted by the Burma Plate and triggered a series of devastating tsunamis along the coasts of most landmasses bordering the Indian Ocean, killing 230,000–280,000 people in 14 countries, and inundating coastal communities with waves up to 30 metres (100 ft) high. It was one of the deadliest natural disasters in recorded history.

There were 14 countries affected. Since the 14th letter of the alphabet is N

14 = N,

there is only one solution to the date

14 N________?

and that is

14 November

the day the pilots observed the Tic Tac UFO in the water.

The UFO is not here for the purpose of some deranged shamans channeling Ashtar Command while armed with the prez's announcement that "UFOs are indeed real." That's not going to happen. I mean the chances that it would are less than those of Nick Pope sneezing thereby turning the universe into a pound of Provolone cheese.

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 23   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope both awed and angry at the MOD and U  on: Dec 21st, 2017, 11:37pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 21st, 2017, 9:12pm, Nyx wrote:
Since the FA-18 tapes were released, Nick Pope, British MoD investigator, claims the MoD kept UFO information from him and the Parliament.

Also Nick claims while working for the MoD, that his requests from the U.S. on UFOs where always denied

Well, I wouldn't tell Nick Pope anything either, because he is just what his last name suggests. He didn't move a finger to counter an explanation to other, related phenomenon:

The phenomenon spread widely after coming to public notice, particularly on the Internet. Hundreds of thousands of websites were posted on the subject. "Ask an Astrobiologist", a NASA public outreach website, received over 5,000 questions from the public on the subject from 2007, some asking whether they should kill themselves, their children or their pets.

And what was it that also contributed to that mass hysteria?

Some believers in a 2012 doomsday claimed that a planet called Planet X, or Nibiru, would collide with or pass by the Earth. This idea, which appeared in various forms since 1995, initially predicted Doomsday in May 2003, but proponents abandoned that date after it passed without incident. The idea originated from claims of channeling alien beings and is widely ridiculed. Astronomers calculated that such an object so close to Earth would be visible to anyone looking up at the night sky.

There is only a small step from channeling aliens to UFO...

"Astronomers calculated..." Yeah, right. That would surely help. LOL. Things that live outside common sense don't care about some calculations.

The irony is that the "channeling" about Planet X actually did come from the ET's. One of the reasons was to test a type of association that earth-based Homo sapiens have a difficulty to make. It goes like this: There were different catastrophes predicted for 2012, but the collision of Earth with Planet X was meant to turn the topic toward catastrophic scenarios of large space bodies impacting the earth. If you take up the subject, it is hard not to come across the Mayans, who used various time cycles, like the long-lasting Great Cycle, that was scheduled to reset itself on December 21, 2012. They were the Mesoamericans who used to live in their heydays in the Yucatan Peninsula, where 19+47 million years ago, a huge asteroid hit the earth with all the known and unknown consequences for the evolution of life on this planet.

19+47 years ago? Wouldn't be easier to write 66 million years ago?

Yes it would and it is always written that way, but the association of space things crashing into this planet would become... well, invisible to the human eye - I mean to the human mind.

Hmm... This is odd.

Yes, 19 and 47 are odd numbers.

No, I mean the strange coincidence - the Roswell crash in 1947 and the huge asteroid crashing, all that via the Mayans. Do you think the aliens nudged the asteroid to get rid of the dinosaurs? How far is it from Roswell, NM to the Meteor Crater in Arizona?

You mean the meteor crater near old Route 66?


This type of association is supposed to be crucial in solving the mystery of the dark matter. The 2012 test is long over and it looks like that we, on our own, don't solve it anytime soon.

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 24   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: A question since we know UFOs are real  on: Dec 21st, 2017, 6:55pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 19th, 2017, 12:58pm, Nyx wrote:
This Pentagon tape has gotten large media coverage, but there has been no panic in the streets.

There has been no panic with the stock market, banks, or religions.

Why would have to be panic in the streets? Did Pentagon officials explicitly say that the anomaly was nothing else but an extraterrestrial craft ready to attack USS Nimitz?

You know that UFO is real as much as the worshipers in some local church know God is real. Just read the Bible - there are witness reports of events that can't be rationally explained.

Why do you and others constantly seek some endorsement from the oficialdom? Isn't it because you doubt yourself in your conclusion about the UFO and need a blessing from the president or something? Just find some utility to your "knowledge."
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 25   General UFO & Alien Board / The End of UFO - December 21, 2012  on: Dec 21st, 2017, 2:14pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The decision to end all UFO activities was announced by the ET's prior to the notorious date, which was heavily tied to an end (the Mayan Great Cycle). The announcement came as an event - as always: after 26 years in business, the UFO magazine published its last issue.

There were a total of 158 issues. The final issue, Volume 24, No. 5, Issue #158, was published in early 2012.

The magazine forwarded the idea that some strange celestial events called UFO's were manifestations of an intelligent extraterrestrial life, but the magazine never published an article describing a UFO that had actually behaved intelligently. As time went by, the idea of UFO effects being intelligently guided became virtually impossible to defend.

Long time ago, Man suspected that otherworldly beings called gods were involved in the creation of rare phenomena, like solar eclipses and so on. So we know this part of the history and there is no need to repeat it. Since the UFO effects have been always inconsequential, there was no need for the science to take a closer look at it. However, the military was rather keen to find out what natural phenomenon could possibly effectively "hoax" a hundred of Russian ICBM's heading toward the USA, and so it got more involved in the investigation. You surely want to understand that natural phenomenon.

The UFO's would have been still around today, had the ET's not discovered a quote just by accident:

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If you want to have your lovely UFO's back, you need to signal to the space that insanity is after all intelligence going awry.

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 26   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Dec 20th, 2017, 2:10pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Dec 20th, 2017, 11:45am, Skeptical wrote:
This one is a bit different qualitatively in that there is video and the pilots involved have come forward on the record. Still, we've had good reports before that ultimately lead us no closer to a solution. So, while I am excited we have something new to talk about, my excitement is tempered by the probability that it will change nothing.

Virgin Mary began shed her tears and the flock of faithfuls rejoiced once again. Wasn't it true that back in 1986, the pilots of a Japanese cargo plane witnessed an extraordinary event ascribed to the UFO? Today, after 31 years, UFO still remains a pure belief in the existence of non-human advanced intelligence, which agrees with the broad definition of God. So what "qualitative difference" are you talking about, forcrysake? You should seek help...

Ah, DeLonge 31 years. . . .

I know what you mean, but your pronunciation is not at its best. It's THE LONG 31 years.

Sorry. Anyway, do you have any suggestion when to release the info on that "Tic Tac" UFO to the public?

Are you serious? You showed that image to the pilots off the coast of California, so you know very well when to release the story to the respected media. And please don't pretend that you don't know.
California is the 31st State of the Union, and that means after "DeLonge" 31 years from the 1986 pilot sighting. That's how Where_When also works, doesn't it?
And I say unto you once again, that you've been wasting your time every moment you make an attempt to initiate an intelligent contact with those earth-based.

But they are making some progress. Look:

Oh, you think that if 31 is the 11th primer number, and the 11th month is November, something would click in their heads, right? You're funny...
If you think that they notice the prime opposites 31 and 13
31 + 1986 = 2017
13 + 2004 = 2017
that tie two major pilot sighting in 1886 and 2004, then you are double funny.
Listen, you are out there, but I live with them - I know what they are like them Homo sapiens.

And so, finally, effective December 21, 2012, common sense prevailed over the hope out there and all manifestations of UFO were canceled. Good. It's been only attracting the attention of semi-derranged debunkers.

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 27   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Dec 19th, 2017, 12:03pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Dec 19th, 2017, 09:04am, Skeptical wrote:
You know you're not well, right? rolleyes


What makes you think so?
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 28   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 18th, 2017, 2:00pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 17th, 2017, 6:53pm, Shekinah wrote:
Religion, as stupid as it is, remains the foundation of our social order. Remove that crutch and the faithful will panic.

The belief in UFO is not exactly the classic religion as it is, for example, Christianity. But both systems of belief share many attributes. There have never been UFO "assumers," but always UFO believers. So called research of UFO is very similar to a theological work and the link between the way the Vatican is researching alleged miracles and the way UFO clergy is researching alleged UFO manifestations is pretty strong. In both cases, the heavy accent is put on the question whether the event is real - in the case of the Vatican, whether a statue of Virgin Mary really shed tears as reported. Once it is concluded that it is so, the miracle is official (Hallelujah!) and that's it. The question why particularly this or that statue has been chosen by God to exhibit miraculous event is never asked. The same is happening with the investigation of a particular UFO sighting.

The most significant difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of UFO is that, in the latter case, the believers do not have to strictly abide by the decision made by the high UFO clergy. For example, the Gospel according to Randle (Roswell) can have various interpretations, but they must lead to the same general conclusion - no balloons, please.

The ET's surely made a point when they've chosen Nick POPE to unofficially lead the Church of UFO.
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 29   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 17th, 2017, 11:57am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 11th, 2017, 8:31pm, Nyx wrote:
Nick is begging the UK and the U.S. to study his war plan for an invasion Nick is sure to come.

Not quite. Nick Pope is begging folks not to leave the Church that he is currently the head of. He does it in a ridiculously desperate manner as the YT video vouches for.

He drafts a silly pamphlet and decorates it by blacking out part of the text. Then he rubber stamps it "classified" for a better effect.

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 30   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 16th, 2017, 04:10am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 15th, 2017, 09:06am, Shekinah wrote:
Intelligent life would have only had to happen once in order to have spread to a multiplicity of worlds. If it survived itself and acquired star trekking technology and had the mindset to populate other worlds we might find most alien sentient beings to have similar DNA, appearance and functional attributes. The archetype progenitor of life.

Your remark is not consistent with reality. If intelligent life happens only once and its constituency spreads around the universe, then who are we?

We can't successfully speculate on the intelligent life in the universe, because we are disconnected from necessary scientific knowledge. Our taxonomy puts us to the same box (Kingdom) with the rest of the animals living on this planet. We are still mortal and will remain so until the "Nature" decides that it reached its goal. We are definitely not what we think that we are. If the truth about us was officially announced and accepted through the appeal to authority, the world would become more or less ungovernable.

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 31   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 14th, 2017, 4:24pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 14th, 2017, 1:29pm, dave54 wrote:
The odds of an alien looking like us -- upright bipedal humanoid, ~2 meters high, oxygen breathing, etc are not certainty, in fact may not even reach 50%, and I am being generous at 50-50.

NASA doesn't stipulate that ET beings equipped with central nervous system and brain capable of some reasoning must look like humans do. You can reformulate the question and ask Tony del Genio about the chances that NASA will find a extraterrestrial planet with animals living there in the next 200 million years. Heck, they feel confident about next 20 years to find any life, so how about 200 million years? Is it impossible that somewhere out there, there was an organization similar to NASA who decided to look for other alien life of any kind in the galaxy and after a search that lasted some 200 million years, it finally found Earth with dinosaurs ruling the planet?

If NASA would feel that an effort lasting some 200 million years is very unlikely to produce any success, it would abort its own search right away. The more is NASA closer to discovering a planet with conditions which supports life, the less chances that planet Earth wasn't discovered within the past 200 million years by other curious intelligent beings - and they might not be blood and flesh any more living on an artificial planetoid.

Seth Shostak at SETI just adds to the absurd state of affairs.
About nine years ago, in Germany, astronomer Seth Shostak made a prediction that caused a ruckus. “I bet everyone in the room a cup of coffee that we would find the aliens within two dozen years,” Shostak said, recalling a conference in the city of Hamburg.

In other words, the chances that planet Earth never been discovered by some ET civilization are approaching zero. But detection and visitation are two vastly different things. You need something like the UFO to support the latter case.
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 32   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 14th, 2017, 10:25am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 11th, 2017, 8:31pm, Nyx wrote:

We use headlines like that to attract attention; we seem to understand the out-of-ordinary magnetism and so we apply it. But no one would expect that the alien use a catchy headline to alert earth-based "aliens" that an encoded message may exists within the related article. That is done via an "alien implant."

How do the earth-based "aliens" find out that there is really a message for them encrypted in the article?

Well, if the headline deals with a topic that seems to be quite out of ordinary, then there is an out-of-ordinary word appearing within the article - a word which is also logically placed. (Take the article to the nearest university to see if the PhD's would come even close detecting the word. That give you the idea about our true abilities to reason.)

But the ET's also include something for the rest of folks who decided to read that Nick Pope's "nonsense." Here is the interesting sentence: NASA does recognise the likelihood that humans will find alien life relatively soon.

Can the estimate "relatively soon" be somewhat quantified?

Tony del Genio of NASA's Goddard Institute For Space Studies believes we could find alien life within a lifetime. He said: "I think that in 20 years we will have found one candidate that might be it."

That's very nice. NASA started to look for alien life in the second half of the past century. Let's be very conservative and reduce the chances that NASA will be successful within the next 20 years to 50%. The question for Tony del Genio should come naturally: Given the chance of 50% (P=0.5), what is the probability P that planet Earth was discovered by some ET civilization in the time spanning from 200 million years ago to the present? A little math tells us that the chance of that being so is a virtual certainty.

Too bad that Nick Pope and other UFO promoters never made NASA and SETI uncomfortable...

Here is an important note: the term "alien life" includes tiny organisms capable of replicating.

That inclusion changes the chances of us being discovered and studied by an ET civilization.
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 33   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nick Pope drafts war plan for coming alien bat  on: Dec 13th, 2017, 10:11am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Dec 11th, 2017, 8:49pm, Shekinah wrote:
If ET were malignant with intentions to subdue or destroy us it would have happened long go. Our martial prowess is inconsequential to technologies billions of years in advance of our capabilities.

Don't forget that the "technologies billions of years in advance of our capabilities" failed near Roswell the same way our in comparison primitive technologies sometimes do. Guys, you can't have it both ways, can you?
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 34   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Dec 12th, 2017, 3:07pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Dec 3rd, 2017, 02:56am, travex wrote:
Well, it looks that some pretty big act of God was about to take place in the Indian Ocean. But further info needs to be recovered by using basic binary logic to become reasonably sure.

Now it's time to try extracting a date...

We have the situation in which an alleged UFO appears near a named object of some significance, as an aircraft carrier surely is. From the previous observation, we know that there is a link between parameters WHEN and WHAT. The link is based on an identity, because English features a coincidence involving the first letters of words that start questions: When, What, Who, Where. Mindful of this quadruple identity, the ET's would display - in important cases - a UFO effect that follows the W identity (W=W as N=N).

When: November
What: Nimitz

You need to brush up on the following by reading the previous post where the simple logic of opposites is explained - the relation between the opposites the first and the last, and the upper-case and the lower-case. Given the overall circumstances, the decoded initial message* was

N___ N____ = November Nimitz
*_____n ___n = Indian Ocean

From the above, we know that the ET's point toward Indian Ocean - that's Where. Is it possible to recover When (date)?

Yes, it is, but the degree of certainty is not easy to establish. First, look at the four words again.

November Nimitz Indian Ocean

There is this unlike any other item - the word Nimitz. What makes it special?

If you stick with the logic of opposites, you will figure it out.


See it? Unlike in the other three words, the first and the last letters of Nimitz are similar symbols. If you turn N by 90 degrees (from the north to the east), you get a Z-like symbol: N(imit)Z.

Normally, the rest would be easy. Just use alphabetical order of both similar letters to arrive at the month and the day (in the US date format where the month precedes the day). Since

N = 14
Z = 26

the date is 14/26. huh

Like hell it is - a year has only 12 months.

Here comes the interesting part. We don't know it, but the majority of Nobel Prize Winners are lazy quitters, like the rest of us, who need to be prompted by the alien implants 24/7, especially when they encounter problems similar to the one with the impossible date 14/26. But let's put some IQ into this to lead us away from the predicament...

We know that there is something between N and Z.


If N=14 and Z=26, then there must be also something between 14 and 26, right?

14( ? )26

Hmm... Hmm... Actually the bridge between 14 and 26 isn't that difficult to build.

14 (15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25) 26

That's OK, that's not wrong, but let's be smart about it and save some building material.


We have added(+) another number to bridge the gap between 14 and 26. Junk the first number 14 and a new date shows up promptly.

12/26, or December 26

So the UFO announces Where=Indian Ocean and When=December 26, presumably the same year it was sighted and recorded by the US Navy - in 2004.

But we need to have some idea what is going to go down in Indian Ocean on December 26, 2004. This info cannot be retrieved without seeing the UFO footage, though.

Well, there are not many options what will probably happen. Sure, a huge asteroid impacting the Indian Ocean would affect the whole world...
...but those... those extraterrestrials wouldn't inform us about something we can do nothing about. I think we should consider the problem suggested by the footage. And since that wouldn't affect the USA, I suggest to you, Mr. President, that we do nothing about it. You understand, we wouldn't be able to reasonably explain how we came into the possession of knowledge that cannot be obtained by any known scientific methods.

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 35   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem?  on: Dec 12th, 2017, 10:45am
Started by dave54 | Post by travex
on Dec 11th, 2017, 10:54pm, ZETAR wrote:
"The Vatican knows, and we know they know"

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 36   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem?  on: Dec 11th, 2017, 1:08pm
Started by dave54 | Post by travex
on Dec 11th, 2017, 11:30am, ZETAR wrote:
"The Process Must Continue"

OK, sapiens. Let's do one more question and then we take you back. Look at the screen once more, please.


Capital, capital.... Hmm... Jerusalem! Did I choose wisely?

We'll let you know...

Are we done for today? What? Natasha? OK, bring her in here.
How are you, Natasha? Good? It won't take long. So as always, look at the screen and answer the request.


When you decide, you can go and show your answer on the map...
Rome? Why did you choose Rome, honey? Yes, go ahead and use the keypad.


Oh, Natasha, you are such a smart giiiirl! Come on, give me a kiss.... Okayokay, that's enough. LOL. Here's a treat for you...

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 37   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: What music are you listening to now?  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 3:03pm
Started by Smersh | Post by travex
Two score and seven years ago, Jim Morrison went to the bathroom at the Doors Workshop in West LA to record vocals for the LA Woman song. And so I did a remix purging Robby Krieger a bit while enhancing Ray Manzarek's pianos. All instruments on the remix are Yamaha PSR-E403 voices.
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 38   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: A whopping 83,715 UFO sightings so far for 201  on: Dec 4th, 2017, 11:17am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 26th, 2017, 11:02am, Nyx wrote:
E.T. come out out of the shadows so we can talk please!

What if "they" told you that all UFO displays ended effectively December 21, 2012?

That whopping number of "83,715" UFO sighting only documents how nutty we can be, if we accept it the way it is being meant.

There are no bone and flash ET's - you should know that. The only guys who look like us and be talked to are those who were born out there under different conditions. They are the ones who were designing the real UFO displays. It's like safari - they come here and no one can see that they are not earth-based. They usually visit the places where their ancestors came from.

You could actually recognize one of the visitors, if he or she would try to fix that number 83,715. See, that separation wouldn't make sense to them. They would fix it by placing the comma between 8 and 3715.

8,3715 and not 83,715

In other words, they would separate even digits from odd digits. Unlike us, they are very careful not to mix apples with oranges.

That's the way they would fix it; they would separate that crazy UFO sightings number on 1 even digit and 4 odd digits.


Or if you read it from the the right to the left - the way Hebrew books are read - they would separate the number on 4 odd digits and 1 even digit.

So, how does it go? What do you see when you look at the number 8,3715 - (a) or (b)?

a) 1 even digit and 4 odd digits.
b) 4 odd digits and 1 even digit.

Take this question to the SETI, maybe the PhD's there help you. (Like hell they will.) At least you will find out how no good we, the earth-based ones, really are in comparison to the ET humans. Such a simple puzzle...

That puzzle has a sibling:

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Dr. Shostak, do you see (a) or (b)?

a) 1 central circle and 4 satellite circles.
b) 4 satellite circles and 1 central circle.

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 39   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Dec 3rd, 2017, 02:56am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 24th, 2017, 02:28am, purr wrote:
Travex, I tell you I have no idea WHY crew/controllers of a (apparent) flying disk would want to show themselves to a US aircraft carrier. Do you? I'm curious as to what you'd guess or know or may calculate here.

The purpose of the real UFO manifestation was mostly the same: to inform about a future event that holds some significance. The problem is that it is very difficult for ordinary earth-based humans to extract a detailed picture of what is coming up - what the UFO actually signals.

The recovery of the info is guided by strict logic - mainly the logic of opposites, or the binary logic of statement being either FALSE or TRUE. In this particular UFO sighting, you encounter it in this example form:


and so on. In general case,

Upper-Case Letter______lower-case letter

If a person fails to comprehend the following comparison based on mutually exclusive opposites,

first is to upper-case as last is to lower-case,

then there is no point in explaining the language the ET's speak.

Note that we use certain words that are logical to the ET's - those are the words that start with upper case letter and end with lower-case letter. We write personal nouns, or names, like that.

Now imagine a test question, which is basically a request.

Names: ?

What, in the world, am I suppose to do? Write down some names? What names? And how many?

Unlike us, the extraterrestrial humans immediately start thinking in terms of reducing the list of all, almost endless, possibilities. Firstly, the word Names is in plural.
Since the minimal requirement for items being in the plural form is 2, the answer can be limited to 2 names X and Y.

Names: X Y

Unfortunately, that leaves you with thousands of options still. But there is a room for further reduction. Unlike common nouns, personal nouns start with upper case letters and that is the point of further reduction of additional possibilities. You can use equivalence and create an arrangement that has only 1 in 676 chance of being just a coincidence.

Names: N_____ , N_____

If you leave your answer like that, the ET's would be more than happy. But imagine that you pick a particular case.

Names: November, Nimitz

The ET's are familiar with noted persons, and so they would think in terms of Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz.

The problem would be how to justify the choice of November, because Chester Nimitz was born and died in the same month - in February.

So the ET's turn to other option involving the name Nimitz:

But time-wise, things still don't jibe. Here are the months particular to the aircraft carrier Nimitz:

Ordered: in March
Laid down: in June
Launched: in May
Commissioned: in May

There is no month of November particular to USS Nimitz. Hmm...

Well, there are still options in linking November with Nimitz:
Powell has filed a freedom of information requests to obtain all the documentation he can about the November 2004 (UFO) incidents with the Nimitz.

And now it is the time for the opposites...

We know that N___ N___ stands for November Nimitz. What does the opposite stand for?

___n ____n

Given the overall circumstances, like where the aircraft carrier can sail, the answer could be

___n ___n = Indian Ocean.

If it is so, the UFO is saying that a notable event will take place in Indian Ocean and we need to recover more specific data. See, the aircraft carrier is one of the biggest man-made objects, so whatever will go down in Indian Ocean may be also big.

Now, note once again the relationship used:

First/Upper-Case Letter_______last/lower-case letter.

This format was already mentioned a very long time ago:
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

Well, it looks that some pretty big act of God is about to take place in the Indian Ocean. But further info needs to be recovered by using basic binary logic to become reasonably sure.

If you made it mentally unscathed all the way down here, you will be able to understand the next steps. Guys, prior being suspended for a gross misconduct, I used to review*** the logic written in selected UFO sightings, before the ET's executed it. So I'm pretty much familiar with it. That's why I can easily recover the additional info.

After a battle, everyone is an admiral.

No, it doesn't go like that. We, the earth-based folks, say, "After a battle, everyone is a general."

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 40   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: The Internet is Under Attack!  on: Nov 22nd, 2017, 01:13am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 21st, 2017, 10:07pm, Swamprat wrote:
How the FCC's move on net neutrality could impact consumers

Watch Video:

Under the implanted governments who brought us massive public bailouts, mass shootings, and other harbingers of collective demise, people always lose regardless what desicion the ZETAReptilians make.
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 41   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: What music are you listening to now?  on: Nov 20th, 2017, 12:05am
Started by Smersh | Post by travex
on Nov 19th, 2017, 7:58pm, Swamprat wrote:

I like that one.

Here is my remix of Here Comes the Sun.

I used flute instead of synth in the final verse part.
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 42   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 2004 USS Nimitz UFO Incident  on: Nov 18th, 2017, 11:11pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 11th, 2017, 3:17pm, Swamprat wrote:
Mystery UFO video supposedly from USS Nimitz fighter jet intrigues researchers

The objects then moved away at “speeds, turn rates and accelerations faster than any known friendly or threat aircraft.”

Watch the video here:

This case may be one of the first cases of hoaxes that are actually real events. This is very difficult to grasp by an unprepared mind - especially by a mind that unconditionally surrenders to the wits of high-ranking UFO clergy.

The ever more sophisticated CGI technology enables altering footage made by the military, which has consequently much higher degree of credibility than the run-of-the-mill uneventful videos made by ordinary folks that wind up on You Tube. So you can expect coming across a footage like the one posted by Swamprat.

Now, remember that the hoaxers - even the sophisticated ones - have been infected by the decades-long paradigm that feeds on the idea that it is absolutely immaterial what reason the hypothetical ET would have to have to approach a certain object or to hover above a certain place. There is only one thing that matters to the UFO cardinals: if the UFO image is a real deal or not.

The decision to squarely ignore almost everything else sprang from a practical reason, though. It stands to reason that a UFO investigator would rather rely on his own photos, than on inspecting someone else's where a possibility of a hoax exists.

Q: Why don't you go and make your own photos?

A: I don't know where a UFO pops out next.

Q: Why is it so that you don't know?

A: The appearance of UFO's cannot be predicted, because it can be very easily compared to chaos.

And here is the problem. When you put Homo sapiens on Mars to the time like the 19th century, and start to explore Mars the way we have, those folks on Mars would surely notice the unexpected company. In order to study the phenomenon of orbiting alien objects, they would figure out the movement of our probes. It would be possible, because our exploration of Mars has specific purpose - it stands on a reason - so it would be possible for the Martians to calculate various parameters of appearance over certain Martian regions. With UFO, the case is entirely different - there is a very high degree of entropy, which strongly suggests absence of reason. That inevitably leads to a conclusion that the UFO display is amalgamation of ET unrelated events. The UFO researchers, who supplement their income through writing on the subject of UFO, obviously cannot have that situation. So they diverted the attention of their readers to a method of investigation that is hardly compatible with common sense - and the Church of UFO was founded.

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How to outsmart the Martians not to mess with your Mars lander?

Just make them think in terms of their crashed weather balloons...

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Actually NASA learned the way to use balloons as a mean of cushioned landing from the Roswell case. A disclosure on that is pending... wink

Next, we try to figure out what was so interesting about aircraft carrier Nimitz that attracted the attention of a UFO. No reason signals a hoax, but things got a bit more complicated than that.

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 43   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo  on: Nov 17th, 2017, 10:40pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 17th, 2017, 12:08pm, dave54 wrote:
It sounds like you are the one with confirmational bias. Extreme to the point you accept as fact the wild tales that popped up later, recounted by fiction writers who wanted to sell magazine articles and books.

Look up the Mandela Effect. Roswell is a classic textbook example.

The Mandela effect is obviously not applicable in this case. It's been always the case with the debunkers raising arguments without them bothering to get acquainted with defining terms. It is also clear from your reply that you failed to to grasp the point I made.
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 44   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo  on: Nov 17th, 2017, 05:11am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 15th, 2017, 11:02am, bonehead wrote:
Baloney. The summer of 1947 was a full-blown UFO flap. UFOs were being seen in various places (including New Mexico and the west coast). Arnold's sighting was not the first but only the first story that saw widespread dissemination. If you are not familiar with UFO flaps, then you need to do some reading up.

For instance, my one and only UFO sighting occurred during a UFO flap in the '70s.

UFO flaps occurred in the United States in 1897, Sweden in 1946, The U.S. in 1947 and 1952 (among others). Europe saw a big flap in 1954. Similar flaps also occurred in South America although I would have to check the years. Anyway, your connection here is bogus. It completely ignores the larger context of the 1947 UFO flap that needs no Kenneth Arnold to support it.....

I'm not sure what you are trying to deny. Kenneth Arnold seemed to be so much surprised by what he had encountered that he felt very compelled to share his experience with others. Not so, though, those who registered the "UFO flap" in 1946. There had been no mentioning of any "ghost rockets" in local Swedish newspapers. The known existence of German V2 rockets provided plausible explanation for the strange sightings - yes, there was a technology like that available at that time. The link between the Sweden sightings and Roswell exists but it is intricate. Not so much the next applicable case:

That was an alien induced hoax, but the story was based on a few real sightings, because the ET's wanted to reinforce the SIGHTING followed by the CRASH scenario to be repeated fifty years later in 1947. Not forty-nine nor fifty-one years later, but exactly fifty. If you look at the American flag, maybe you figure out why exactly fifty.

Roswell Daily Record never mentioned any crashed "ghost rocket" of 1946 nor any "cigar-shaped object" of 1897 - those descriptions in the previously rumored sightings - but "flying saucer." And those were the words used by Kenneth Arnold. In addition, the scattered items found in the debris field could hardly reveal the shape of the object prior crashing. That is the first and the most obvious link between the Kenneth Arnold sighting and the alleged Roswell UFO crash.

Later, the ET's reinforced the same way the alien-implant induced hoax story about the UFO crash in Aurora, Texas in 1897:,_Texas

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 45   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: New UFO Organization Focuses on Science  on: Nov 14th, 2017, 7:59pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 11th, 2017, 1:04pm, bonehead wrote:

But I have seen this tired old bromide repeated so many times over the past several decades that I am somewhat puzzled that there are still those out there that maintain that this wizened old cliche is, somehow, a new and paradigm changing development. It ain't, and it will not make a lick of difference to the mainstream until the UFO is actually produced.

Well, it's too late to bring the flying saucer to the public on the silver patter. It was always difficult, because it was always the government recovery crew that got to the crashed flying saucers first. That makes Mac Brazel's discovery a unique case...

Don't think that every UFO evangelist is rather dumb. If you ask some of them why is it so that flying saucers always develop serious technical difficulties while flying over unpopulated areas so ordinary folks can't get their hand on the debris and send it to MUFON, you get no-nonsense answer saying that the alien pilots always try to avoid crashing into populated places, the same way human pilots try not to crash their crippled planes into the crowd of spectators during air shows. You would have to be persistent and produce destabilizing arguments, like this one:

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But something strange happens when you link the crash of the Israeli airliner with UFO.


When you show them the similarity between El Al Flight 1862 and JAL Fligh 1628, they have suddenly hard time to comprehend that 1862 and 1628 are similar numbers, not to mention the implication of that similarity not being a coincidence, as it applies to the subject of UFO crashes and recoveries. But they would be otherwise very keen on infesting the environment under investigation with their beloved subject of UFO crashes and recoveries, which consequently involves the government, thus expanding the subject into the topic of government UFO secrecy; which, in turn, promises future disclosures. Just stay tuned my dear gullible friend...

The second, and unsolvable problem for the silver platter evidence is the fact that all genuine UFO displays were canceled starting December 21, 2012. The alien activities have transformed and now mostly involve induced conspiracy theories. Those conspiracy theories which are pervasive enough and based on substantial derailment of reason have the highest priority to be analyzed with the tools learned from observing UFO's.

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 46   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo  on: Nov 12th, 2017, 9:24pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 11th, 2017, 7:03pm, bonehead wrote:
Roswell has traditionally been about what each individual is willing (or unwilling) to believe about the case.

It would take years in analyzing various UFO displays before the Roswell case could be thoroughly understood. First of all, if it were not for the Kenneth Arnold sighting, the hot idea of flying saucers would not spread among the populace reaching also the folks in New Mexico; meaning that upon finding, the debris would have been otherwise attributed to a failed man-made object. There were a few very suspicious coincidences in the Kenneth Arnold sighting that pointed toward Roswell. Kenneth Arnold didn't represent much of an authority, as the military brass did, and that's what impresses ordinary folks, thereby giving the case boost in credence.

Some UFO investigators played the mind game fairly well and began to suspect that the incident at Roswell might have been a deliberate act on the part of the hypothetical ET's. Little they suspect, though, that all the ET's had to do was damage a balloon to start the brainwashing business. There are other ways to study the amount of common sense in the mammalian heads, but they decided to go that way.

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 47   General UFO & Alien Board / The Funeral UFO  on: Nov 11th, 2017, 6:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
It was back in 1986 when I was asked by the ETH's (extrarerrestrial humans) to design a sky intro (UFO sighting) to a funeral speech directed toward the EBO's (earth-based observers). That was strange, because I was already re-assigned to the crop circle test team at that time.

One of the folks whom the ETH's had tested and who had performed fairly well, J. Allen Hynek, passed away in 1986 and so the ETH's, with the permission of the ET's, decided to honor him.

When I looked at the name string JALLENHYNEK, I realized that I would probably have to use an acronym. So I checked the database and got lucky. This UFO sighting would be reliable one, witnessed by airline pilots, because the first three letters of Hynek's name string JALLENHYNEK is a short for Japan Airlines.

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The next step was designing the date of the "UFO funeral speech," so the EBO's would know for sure who was being eulogized. See, the ETH's picked J. Allen Hynek, as their object of study of Homo sapiens, from other equally qualifying candidates, because of his middle name ALLEN. If you make a slight adjustment to the second double L by cutting off the shorter horizontal line, you get a word that is not only in the dictionary, but has a special connotation:

A L L E N ---- (snip) ----> A L I E N

So I decided on a similar, slight modification of the acronym UFO. I simply replaced letter O by number 0.

U F O --- (punch, punch) ----> U F 0

In the next step, I made U and F follow suit and turned the letters into numbers by using the alphabetical order.

U = 21
F = 6
0 = 0

Then I used the three numbers as time(calendar) data: 21 days, 6 months, 0 years to set up the time of the UFO/UF0 sighting. The date when J. Allen Hynek's died was 27. April, 1986. Moving the time ahead by 21 days, 6 month, 0 years yielded

27. April 1986 + 21 days, 6 months, 0 years = 17. November 1986.

Japan Air Lines flight 1628 was a UFO incident that occurred on November 17, 1986 involving a Japanese Boeing 747 cargo aircraft.

I wanted the flight number be exactly 2160 - the same as the difference between the day J. Allen Hynek passed away and the date the Japanese pilots encounter the "funeral UFO," to make the logical knot as tight as possible, thereby making mockery out of the debunkers and their counterparts, the UFO evangelists, who are proven to be mentally blind as hell, but it conflicted with the intentions of the ETH's. I was allowed, though, to align the date of the sighting with the time the pilots spotted the two strange objects for the first time, by using two established date formats: day/month and month/day.

November 17 = 17. November, or 11/17 = 17/11

I just changed day into hours and month into minutes.

November 17 = 17:11

Japan Air Lines flight 1628 was a UFO incident that occurred on November 17, 1986 involving a Japanese Boeing 747 cargo aircraft. The aircraft was en route from Paris to Narita International Airport, near Tokyo, with a cargo of Beaujolais wine.On the Reykjavík to Anchorage section of the flight, at 17:11 over eastern Alaska, the crew first witnessed two unidentified objects to their left.

To my surprise, the ETH's, who designed the rest to the last itty-bitty detail, decided that the initial phase of the sighting would involve two objects to reinforce the two date formats month/day and day/month. But the EBO's don't need such a heavy clue. Hmm. It felt as if the ETH's wanted to bring the uninvited to the party...

Now I had never heard of this story either, but after checking it out, this JAL 1628 incident seems like a substantial mystery. Is anyone familiar with this story? What the hell did Captain Terauchi and his crew come across that day??

JAL 1628 Incident


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 48   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: New UFO Organization Focuses on Science  on: Nov 11th, 2017, 02:28am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 10th, 2017, 9:22pm, Swamprat wrote:
Not much. It is no secret that Seth Shostock has always maintained that ufologists are misguided idiots and there is no chance that aliens are visiting or have ever visited this planet. Jill Tarter, on the other hand. has said that it is possible that they have.

Try as I might, I couldn't find any reference that Jill Tarter said that. All I could find is her answer to the claim that UFO is a manifestation of ET life:

Her view seems to run parallel with Shostak's.

The problem here is that we've learned most of the scientific methods of investigation by observing the nature and not the activities of apparently super advanced ET civilization. How do you deny the existence of something you don't have the slightest idea about? Sure, the UFO's are certainly not the product of a civilization similar to ours, but SETI's denial rests exactly on that premise, because the PhD's can't know better than that, but such reasoning is obviously flawed.

Go back to the 17th century, but leave the sky at the present, and tell some of the learned folks that the light they see in the night sky (the International Space Station) is not a new, very bright star but something that people like them live in. Even celebrated Isaac Newton would resist your claim heavily finally rejecting it altogether due to the lack of rationality. It would take some time for Isaac to realize that the light in question doesn't not behave like other stars, but that would hardly become an argument speaking for the claim that it is man-made craft with people aboard.

The new investigative organization may apply a stricter filter, but that's about all it can do. There is a rule: Do not disturb the natural habitat of Homo sapiens, and I don't think that our scientific methods and technologies are advanced enough to break the rule. The ET's allow the UFO exist as another type of belief, but it cannot become a theory proposed by the scientific authority.

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 49   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: New UFO Organization Focuses on Science  on: Nov 10th, 2017, 8:54pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Nov 10th, 2017, 5:37pm, Swamprat wrote:
Senior SETI Astronomer Seth Showstop would agree with that. However, Jill Tarter does not agree with that.

Can you be more specific in regard to the alleged disagreement?
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 50   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Paddock : Las Vegas Massacre : It's Gone!  on: Nov 10th, 2017, 8:11pm
Started by Sys_Config | Post by travex
on Nov 8th, 2017, 8:03pm, ZETAR wrote:

Las Vegas Shooting Proof: The Dark Helicopter by Truth Tracker (Docu Snippet 4 Final) ~


A fact that some of the spent ammo picked up in the targeted area couldn't match the weapons Paddock was firing from would be the necessary consequence of this lovely conspiracy theory.

I hope someone truly shoots you': online conspiracy theorists harass Vegas victims

Braden Matejka survived a bullet to the head in the Las Vegas massacre. Then, the death threats started coming.

“You are a lying piece of shit and I hope someone truly shoots you in the head,” a commenter wrote to Matejka on Facebook, one week after a gunman killed 58 people and injured hundreds more. “Your soul is disgusting and dark! You will pay for the consequences!” said another. A Facebook meme quickly spread with a photo of him after the shooting, captioned: “I’m a lying cunt!”

The 30-year-old victim – who narrowly escaped death in the worst mass shooting in modern US history – has faced a torrent of online abuse and harassment, forcing him to shut down his social media accounts and disappear from the internet. The bullying, taunting and graphic threats have also spread to his family and friends.

Ah, come on, you conspiracy theorists. Keep your ideas intelligent and free of profanity.

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 51   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: New UFO Organization Focuses on Science  on: Nov 10th, 2017, 4:00pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Oct 30th, 2017, 12:48pm, Swamprat wrote:
About SCU

Mission Abstract

To conduct, promote and encourage rigorous scientific examination of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

To fully utilize scientific principles, methodologies and practices in the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon observed and reported around the globe. We provide scientific case analysis support to witness cases, other scientific organizations, and government entities who are looking for the certitude of facts to this phenomenon.

If you stick to the rigor of scientific methods, the way science is done by the Ph.D.'s at SETI, you successfully debunk any UFO-related case ever observed and reported. That's because, according to the SETI, there is still no scientific evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life. In this view, the name of the group Scientific Coalition for UFO is a misnomer - it should read Scientific Coalition against UFO Claims instead.
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 52   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Can 200 students & 5 teachers be wrong at West  on: Nov 9th, 2017, 6:01pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Oct 2nd, 2017, 01:23am, travex wrote:
Why would the ET's settle on 1966, 6. April?

We do one more step in the brilliantly designed Westall UFO sighting, which, in its entirety, opens the door to the Betty and Barney Hills abduction mystery. You would have to read the previous post to understand the issue, though.

The question, once again, is why the ET's decided on the date 1966, 6. April?

Obviously, the main point of interest in the compressed form of the date 196664 is the string of three sixes, which is the well-known number 666, and which the folklore attributes to the devil, even though the part of the Bible where the number is available for perusal clearly says that the number is the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.

Most historians agree that the author of the Book of Revelation encoded the name of Roman emperor Nero. Even though the folk interpretation was used to link the image of the devil with the image of the Grey, the rational interpretation of 666 takes now over.

Okay, the ET's marked Nero, but how does that affect the choice of the date of the UFO sighting?

J. Allen Hynek would surely suggest that Nero was born and died. Are both dates known? What if Nero was born or died on 6. April?

That's no nonsense idea how to move ahead, unfortunately Nero was born in December and died in June.

If you are in 1966, you hit very likely the dead end; but give it 666 weeks more and the ET's virtually tell you how they decided on 6. April with respect to Nero:

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According to one very popular ancient conspiracy theory, Nero could care the least and played fiddle while Rome was burning before his eyes, thus adding another reason to be called 666 aka "the beast." Since, according to the Spielberg's film, the mean of communication between the ET occupants of the huge UFO and the earthlings was music - the ET's nailed Nero via music to the Great Fire of Rome. It follows that the time when the fire started is the one to look at.

The Great Fire of Rome was an urban fire in the year AD 64. It caused widespread devastation, before being brought under control after six days.

The rest is easy: Take that year 64 and append it to year 1966:

1966 & 64 = 196664

Remember that the city fire spread from one location, so do some spreading too.

196664 ---> 1966 6 4 => 1966 6. April ( Westall UFO sighting)

J. Allen Hynek would immediately point out that in order to link the Rome fire with that Spielberg movie, the ET's would have to know the future - they would have to know the script of the movie ahead of time! And that's impossible.

It is impossible for mammals like us. Animals can't really tell the future in this particular detail, but folks who are not "the beasts," or are not animals, like the ET's, can see ahead very easily.

The second point J. Allen Hynek would make is another question: Betty and Barney Hill were Americans, but the Westall UFO sighting took place in Australia. That doesn't much speak for the suggested - that the ET's are not animals like us and therefore are much, much more intelligent than we are. If the UFO sighting in question is supposed to be tightly linked with Betty and Barney Hill abduction case, one would expect that it would take place in America, not in Australia. How do you reconcile this?

That's the point where the brilliantly simple arguments start to kick in. That's also a point to stop, because the OP doesn't suggest to take this route - it promises yet another unspecified disclosure, preferably shocking.

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 53   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Looking for an Alien Implant?  on: Nov 7th, 2017, 5:40pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Nov 7th, 2017, 4:23pm, ZETAR wrote:



There is no evidence that in this post rules have been broken, as much as there is no evidence that Betty Hill was abducted the way the UFOlklore has it. Please, make sure that the story is held within the bounds of intelligence, not to break the corollary of the aforementioned rule. Please, have some respect to those killed in Nevada and Texas and stop trolling this thread, by staying away from it. I do the same thing. Actually it would be better if you delete this whole thread.
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 54   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Looking for an Alien Implant?  on: Nov 7th, 2017, 4:00pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Nov 6th, 2017, 7:45pm, ZETAR wrote:

Forum Rules & Regulations

" Keep your posts intelligent, and free from profanity."

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ZETAReticulians are known to be very strict, policing the Milky Way across its span. So no one in the galaxy likes them that much, excepting Betty Hill. I wouldn't be surprised if she visited UFO Casebook to say hi to them.

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 55   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Looking for an Alien Implant?  on: Nov 6th, 2017, 7:06pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Nov 4th, 2017, 6:54pm, travex wrote:

Just keep doing nothing to prevent the mass shootings, and the ET's will bless you with undeniable evidence that UFO's are a real deal. These are the morals, I guess...

Do the ET's really mean that?

There is no way of knowing unless you learn the way the ET's link TIME with PLACE:

Stephen Paddock opened fire on October 1 - that's a TIME-related info. At that time, he was 64 years old - that's another important TIME-related info. The PLACE of the massacre was Nevada, which is the 36th state of the Union. Now, how do you say, "This is not the end of it", meaning a similar incident is coming up?

When you combine (partially superimpose) PLACE 36 and TIME 64, you get 364. You see that 364th day is not the ending day, because the regular year (2017) has 365 days. But how does one find more detailed info?

That's done via Paddock's age, 64, and the number applicable to the place, which is the State of Nevada - the 36th state of the Union. You solve this easy equation made of both parameters.

64 = 36 + x (x stands for place and is the unknown variable)

By solving the trivial equation, x = 28, because

64 = 36 + 28.

Now, if 36=Nevada, then 28=Texas (Texas joined the Union as the 28th state)

But how do you extract the time t?

You are looking at it: 36 + 28

The location number 36(Nevada) gets reassigned to the time domain. Set the date of the Nevada shooting as day 1 and keep counting to 36...

When you are finished, the calendar shows November 5.

So the right side of the solved equation 64 = 36 + 28 harbors the TIME and PLACE of the future event.

(36 + 28) ----> (November 5 + Texas)

Now the earth-based observers pray to God that they were wrong not exactly remembering the ET's methods of data extraction...

Prayers denied, I guess.

So, who was "Devil Patrick Kelney"?

The perpetrator was identified as 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley. Kelley was formerly a U.S. Air Force member who served in logistics readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico from 2009 until 2014.

Rings the bell?

In mid-1947, a United States Army Air Forces balloon crashed at a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico.

I wonder if someone points out the "synchronicity" occurring between the age of the shooter and the number of his victims, and the fact that there are 26 letters in the alphabet. I guess not, because there is hard evidence that the shooting really happened and we love to mess only with harmless fiction - or near fiction.

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 56   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo  on: Nov 6th, 2017, 01:08am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 4th, 2017, 2:14pm, dave54 wrote:
Notice neither said anything about any bodies or survivors. Do you think it likely a surviving alien would hang around the crash site in the hot summer sun for 2+ weeks? Any bodies would be smelling ripe by then, and scavenged by animals (so much for the intact body in the fake autopsy video.)
The Army came and cleaned it up. Most likely it was a balloon from Project Mogul.

The story makers of poor judgement made a mistake by including alien bodies in the tell to prop up the notion of a genuine event. The debunkers, who simply assumed that the aliens were similar cellular organism as we are, argued various consequences of dead bodies being exposed to the environment. You can't enter dismissive arguments regarding something of which you are hardly familiar with. That's a serious argumentation error. (Later, the USAF officials for some reason accepted the presence of alien bodies, but argued that they were mannequins used in testing the effects of parachute jumps from high altitudes.)

The Phoenix Lights event was also designed to point toward the similarity between the Roswell crash and Mars landings. (In 1997, the UFO enthusiasts observed the 50th anniversary of the Roswell flying saucer crash.)

(Yes, the ET's know things ahead, as they have to - the hoaxers and the story makers don't.)

The city of Phoenix was selected for the purpose, because there were no well-populated places named Spirit or Opportunity. The common denominator is word "balloon."

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1) Are those balloons crashing on Mars?
2) Are those balloons landing on Mars?

The answer is neither, because we, the Martians, never found any alien pilots dead or alive.

This argumentation error based on the erroneous assumption that craft must be always piloted leads to an absurd conclusion.
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 57   General UFO & Alien Board / Looking for an Alien Implant?  on: Nov 4th, 2017, 6:54pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
Doctors prepare for deep dive into Las Vegas shooter's brain

Is it possible that the Las Vegas shooting had an alien connection? Is there anything that would make a person suspicious?

The USA is facing another threat from N. Korea, which keeps busy developing an effective nuclear weapon. That directs you to the topic of major attacks on this country. Wikipedia lists 16 instances, which curiously include American Civil War (1861-1865). One couldn't go wrong picking the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor (1941) as the leader of the list. Which attack would be best considered as the second?

The second... hmm... well, there are 60 seconds to the minute. Perhaps the attack that came in the year wherein the Americans observed the 60th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor is the best choice for the silver medal.

Both events took place 60 years apart - in 1941 and 2001. As you see, it's not easy to work with this set of data - you have an attacker on standby, whose action must be linked to those two attacks on America.

You can avoid the difficulties by using the order of the presidents serving at the time both attacks took place. It was Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the 32nd prez, who asked the Congress to declare war on Japan a day after US Pacific Fleet was nearly destroyed by the Imperial Navy. And who sat in the classroom talking to the schoolkids when the first hijacked plane hit North Tower? The 43th president of USA George W. Bush.

Now you have 32nd and 43th acting on behalf of 1941 and 2001 respectively. That's something you can manage. Let's see...

Tough luck - all 43-story hotels listed are not in the USA.

Let's double check, otherwise one would have to start all over again using a different coding plan.

Mandalay Bay is a 43-story luxury resort and casino on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise, Nevada. It is owned and operated by MGM Resorts International.

That's it! All you have to do now is to move the shooter to the "F. D. R." 32nd floor and the link between the oncoming massacre and the massacres of 1941 and 2001 holds tight.

Yo may encounter some resistance, though...

What do you mean you won't? Just move your ass to the room on the 32nd floor, Stephen! Why? Because I said so. Listen to me. No one ever said no to me - no one. And I don't think that you'll become the first one to effectively resist. Lemme tell you somethin. A long time ago, I was in Africa seeing those poor bastards sitting on the tree branches. I uprooted the trees and made toothpicks out of them. Sure, the creatures were bitching about it, but finally they did learn to walk upright. See? It all goes my way. Here, let me help you to carry the weaponry up the floors...

Stephen Paddock shot 58 people dead, 58 being the code number that clues the outcome of the standoff between North Korea and the USA. But you need folks like Donald Trump and the North Korean leader to escalate things to the point of crisis.

The number of victims of the alien activity (the odds are quite high) is actually 59, because the shooter killed himself. But you wouldn't put them all into one bag (no pun intended) - the killer with those killed together. It would be a good idea to keep them apart. That means you should keep 59 apart, like this.

Together: 59
Apart: 5 9

To prevent the case where both digits join each other again, you need to fill the space with appropriate symbol. Since there is nothing between 5 and 9, and nothing means zero, you replace the space with it.

5 9 ---> 509

Then you need to decode 509, which is not difficult.

At Roswell, the 509th became the nuclear strike and deterrence core of the Strategic Air Command, and was the only unit capable of delivery of nuclear weapons until June 1948, when B-50 Superfortresses were initially deployed.

Yes, there is a clear link between 509 and nuclear weapons. But where is the alien side of the story?

Redesignated the 509th Bombardment Group, Very Heavy in 1946, the group was one of the original ten bombardment groups of Strategic Air Command. The unit was also the host organization at Roswell Army Airfield, New Mexico in July 1947 during the alleged Roswell UFO Incident.

Is there any way to prevent the oncoming crisis?

Maybe by solving this puzzle:

Q: N______R A______ ?


Just keep doing nothing to prevent the mass shootings, and the ET's fuc- you up real bad. These are the morals, I guess...

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 58   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: DeLonge's theory Roswell was Nazi UFO technolo  on: Nov 4th, 2017, 3:41pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Nov 3rd, 2017, 2:49pm, dave54 wrote:
I think Roswell is the most thoroughly researched and completely debunked UFO tale of all time.

This was one of the favorite test of common sense that the ETH's (Extraterrestrial Humans) administered to those UFO debunkers who got abducted for mental testing.

R O S W E L L <-----> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

The result was absolutely dismal. Some of them were not even capable understanding what was asked - what those question marks meant!
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 59   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Stardust Ranch owner fights 19 hostile E.T.s  on: Nov 3rd, 2017, 12:22am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Oct 31st, 2017, 06:00am, travex wrote:
Try to figure out the follow up. Why did the ET's ordered John Edmonds to come up with the idea that he fought 19 aliens and not 18 or 20, for example?

This is a very important part of the crazy story, which a few would seriously consider to be true. Here is the wildest part:

He [Edmonds] claims that this particular incident prompted a furious battle between himself and the aliens which resulted in him killing nineteen of them with a samurai sword.

Note that there is no mentioning in the article how Mr. Edmonds disposed of the headless alien bodies, which is the type of evidence UFO researchers dream of. He would surely provide some "down-to-earth" explanation if asked. Like that the surviving aliens dragged the bodies of their fallen comrades away to be burried with the full military honor at Arlitinington Cemetery in Zeta-Fau. (Go to constellation Camelopardalis and then take a left.)

But given the very peculiar logic-based coincidences mentioned in the previous post, some folks may possibly suspect that the wild story didn't originate inside Mr. Edmonds mind; that it was sent to his brain by the ET's in a similar way radio waves are being sent to a receiver. If it was really so,
the ET's would have to justify the number of aliens killed. In other words, the number couldn't be possibly randomly chosen. So that's the question to focus on: Why does Mr. Edmonds claim to have killed 19 aliens and not 18, or 20, for example?

The ET's mind works this way: The ET designer of the Stardust Ranch event links the killing to the weapon handled by Mr. Edmonds. In this case, it was a samurai sword. This connection will create a coincidental identity S=S.


This way, the human mind is supposed to focus on letter S.

Here comes another reinforcement.

Edmonds - plural or singular?

(Mr.) Edmonds - singular
(Keeping up with the) Edmonds - plural

Aha! Mr. Edmonds didn't kill a single alien but many. Since the vast number of nouns in plural ends with letter S, that letter is the letter of logical choice. The next step is a straightforward thing. Just answer the following question:

Q: Number of dead aliens = ?

By focusing on the plural-indicating letter S...

Number of dead alien(s = ?),

you answer the question by solving (s = ?).

Since S is the 19th letter of the alphabet, it follows that

A: Number of dead alien(s = 19) ---> Number of dead aliens = 19

That's the way Mr. Edmonds' hacked mind came up with the idea that he killed 19 alien intruders.

There is nothing logically wrong with the justification of that number 19, but the argument is sort of on a weak side when the probabilities are taken into account - there is still a chance that we have encountered nothing but a coincidence.

Now remember that the ET's contribute to this forum via specials like Nyx, who has selected this story about a "heroic" Arizona man named John Edmonds. In order to reinforce the number 19 via S=19 in the alphabet, where S indicates plural, the ET's will trigger an event where the
dead bodies would be accounted for. The event design will rest on an "alien" name and the initial coincidental identity S=S, mentioned above. The ET's will pretend to take a revenge by simply hacking a mind of a individual with a foreign name having initials S. S. Like this dude:

Sayfullo Saipov aka Samurai Sword

Wait a minute! This "grey alien" ran over and killed "only" 8 earthlings! How come he didn't kill 19 of them to settle things equally?

That's because 8=19.

NOPE! That's not true. Absolutely not!

Well, there are circumstances where 8 really equals 19. Here is a clue coming from the world of science.

The ET's are obviously familiar with Carl Pomerance's paper Prime Numbers and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence and they will make use of it in the justification of 8=19:

(The) 8(th prime number) = 19.

Have you noticed how the world is getting increasingly violent the way it was really rare some forty years ago or so? Well, in 1991, the ET's started a new generation of alien-related events. Even if you master the language that the ET's speak to earthlings, how do you hoax this?

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 60   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: New UFO Organization Focuses on Science  on: Oct 31st, 2017, 2:48pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Oct 30th, 2017, 12:48pm, Swamprat wrote:

What SCU Stands By


The Scientific Exploration of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.


1 - To establish a foundation and resource for credible, objective, scientific peer reviewed content on the subject of UAPs.

2 - To create partnerships in scientific and technological endeavors to explore the UAP phenomenon. To establish partnerships with other scientific organizations, universities, governments to help improve the data collection, data dissemination and research of the UAP subject.

3 - To sponsor public and networking environments and events to augment communication within the serious research community.

What is your take on this, Swamprat?

Do you think that SCU would scientifically examine You Tube videos doing the same thing all over again, e.g. trying to separate the wheat from the chaff?
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 61   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Stardust Ranch owner fights 19 hostile E.T.s  on: Oct 31st, 2017, 06:00am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Oct 29th, 2017, 7:19pm, Nyx wrote:
Arizona ranch owner puts his ranch up for sale because over the years he and his wife have been attacked by E.T.s.

When he discovered the E.T.s were trying to levitate his wife, he took his samurai sword and came to her rescue.

The owners want to go away as far as possible.

Here you can learn the link between WHAT and WHO=>WHERE.

First look at the name of the storyteller John Edmonds. In neutral syntax, the name is written with all letter lower-case.

john edmonds

In the next moment, there seems to be a change in the syntax.

jOhN edmONds

Was that mysterious change to capital letters random?

It doesn't look it was, because O and N are the only letters included in the first and the second name. This coincidence is a template for another two words - usually an adjective and noun - that should appear in the article. For convenience those two words should start or close a paragraph, but don't rely on it. In this particular case the easy-to-find feature was included.

He says that one particularly bloody battle occurred after the aliens attempted to abduct his wife from her bed. “They actually levitated her out of the bed in the master chamber and carried her into the parking lot and tried to draw her up into the craft, ” he told journalists. He claims that this particular incident prompted a furious battle between himself and the aliens which resulted in him killing nineteen of them with a samurai sword.

You can see that "samurai sword" also share two letters.

SamuRai SwoRd

Those letters are S and R respectively. Now you turn them into initials S. R. and you have the name of the location where the samurai sword chopped off those nineteen alien heads.

S. R. = Stardust Ranch

But were there really ET's that John Edmonds has fought?

Go by the first two, last two rule and swap the letters in his last name.


Looks like Johnny was fighting DEMONSD and not ET's.

So this is what happens when the ET's design an event, write a code and execute it by activating the neural implant (not really an object) in John Edmonds head. Like with any Homo sapiens, he would do exactly what the ET's want him to do or say, without him having the slightest idea what was happening in his head.

This way the ET's let you know who's been lying or partly lying, or telling the truth about his or her alleged alien encounters, because those arrangements above can be hardly purely coincidental - the logical design is pretty apparent. It's also virtually undetectable for the "party crashers."

Try to figure out the follow up. Why did the ET's ordered John Edmonds to come up with the idea that he fought 19 aliens and not 18 or 20, for example?

Clue: samurai sword ---> sword ---> s-word

"Oh sh--! Here they come again! Margie, get me my sword! I must bravely defend my ranch against those galactic intruders."


Truth: initials S. R. match name Stardust Ranch

Lie is the opposite of Truth, so if Truth=SR then Lie=RS. Is RS significantly included in the story?

He says that one particularly bloody battle occurred after the aliens attempted to abduct his wife from her bed. “They actually levitated her out of the bed in the master chamber and carried her into the parking lot and tried to draw her up into the craft, ” he told journalists.

Q: Who got almost abducted?
A: MRS. Edmonds

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 62   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: If you have proof of a UFO, you get $100,000  on: Oct 28th, 2017, 01:24am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Oct 25th, 2017, 2:56pm, Nyx wrote:

I wish I had a cell phone camera in 1966 and again in 1997, but even if I had, I am sure there would be some person or agency to discredit my proof and my character.

Even if you had a cell phone, there is something called "perfect hoax." You don't suppose that the officialdom would call your picks "the evidence?"

Your cell phone is useless in deciding whether the Betty and Barney Hill's story matches the reality or not. You either believe it, or you don't. It can be treacherous though. Why not to accept the nutty story when the UFO's are often engaged in crazy acrobatics? There are lots of people who have rejected it, because craziness is not what science and technology stands upon and without science and technology, there are no interplanetary flights.

The NYX puzzle is a case to be decided. Maybe you've noticed that your nick fits the box where UFO lives.


If UFO can do acrobatics, so can NYX. Watch how NYX (UFO) suddenly splits into tvo parts...


Now N starts moving away from the rest...

N <------ YX

Why is it so?

There is a way to stay focused and ask whether something similar occurs in space, because UFO is essentially a spacecraft. Feel lucky...

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Those are the pieces of Shoemaker-Levy 9 - a comet that was once in one piece, but the gravitational influence of very massive bodies, like planet Jupiter, broke it apart.

It follows that something similar could happen to "comet" NYX. All you need to do is to look to the left of the departing N piece, if there is something there.

?.......... N <--------YX

Looky...looky... Yes, indeed! There is an object to the west of N!

A ......... N <---------YX

But A is one letter and so is N. Since 1=1, there is no way A is more massive than N, and so it cannot pull N toward itself. Unleeess....

If we don't see or are not able to detect something, it doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't exist. The theory of dark matter is a classic example. What if there is a chunk of dark matter right beside the object A?

( )A........N <-------YX

Cosmology solves complex problems and this is just a simple puzzle and so this is the point where the scientific clue ends. As scientists wouldn't be able to figure which single character is hiding behind the question mark, we can. Just wait until N gets pulled far enough to A. When it hits A, it would be like switching on a flashlight and the dark matter becomes visible.

(M)AN <-------------YX

But why does it have to be M? Yes, MAN is one of the words from the dictionary, but so is BAN, CAN, FAN...

One theory based on taking overall picture into consideration explains the presence of M this way:


Females have an XX pair of sex chromosomes, and males, an XY pair.

But there is an opposing theory that solves the nature of the dark matter ( ) as

( )AN = (WOM)AN

because the arriving N is a part of a female:

Since goddess Nyx was born of Chaos, and NYX is a sibling of UFO (the same number of letters), and UFO movement is nothing but chaotic and therefore unpredictable, this theory must prevail, even though it is fundamentally rooted in Greek religion.

Well, maybe the UFO movement isn't chaotic, as perceived by those UFO theologians - maybe you can learn something from it:

Shoemaker-Levy 9?

Like there is something missing from the name? If so, what is it?

Shoemaker-Levy 9 ------------->?

It looks that something broke off the comet. Look farther...

Shoemaker-Levy 9 ------------------------------------------------------> 4

Four? Why four?

Shoemaker = 9 (letters)
Levy = 4 (letters)

See what I mean? If Shoemaker=9 and Levy=4, then Shoemaker-(minus)Levy=5. And since Jupiter is the 5th planet from the sun, you make sure that it hits Jupiter.

Hmm. And when do you suppose the comet hits that planet?

If Shoemaker=9 and Levy=4, then ShoemakerLevy=94. So you let the comet hit Jupiter in '94.

Hmm. No, that's too daring. What if the earthlings notice that Shoemaker-Levy 9 is missing a logical piece - that 4? Also, we would have to break that darn thing apart for a clue.

That's right. You need to break it apart first, so there would be pieces.

Hmm. Nope. That's too daring - too obvious. The earthlings would notice.

Ah, come on. Just be some fun for a change.

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 63   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: If you have proof of a UFO, you get $100,000  on: Oct 25th, 2017, 2:24pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 14th, 2017, 5:52pm, Nyx wrote:
This is a money offer from ufologists James Fox.

You won't see that $100,000 no matter what you submit.

When do the truth hunters finally realize that the ET's call the shots and they will not provide any substantial evidence to anyone who will misuse the evidence for his or her own purposes? The situation is similar to the one concerning God. He could easily reveal himself to the world in a spectacular manner with no doubt that the image could not be man-made or of a natural origin. The implication of such a "heavenly disclosure" would be horrendous: the religious hard-liners would get busy trying to drag the evolution theory all the way into the mortuary. Since God is held omniscient, he can easily figure out the consequences of him revealing himself to the world. It's unlikely that God would support any moves that would turn us back, so we would face the Dark Ages again.

What to do in order to have a chat with the ET's?

The article does mention what to do:

The significance of this is that he will be interviewing people who claim to have witnessed one or more flying saucers in the Melbourne suburb of Westall in 1966.

The infamous “sighting” by some 200 students and teachers at Westall High School was reported in both The Age and The Dandenong Journal and remains a mystery to this day.

That's the brilliantly designed UFO appearance that Nyx and I already touched upon. Answer all the questions the Westall sighting asks and you are ready for the ride of your life...

There is other evidence of sort that a band of mean Grays does live among us. Give me that $100,000, and I turn it into a clue in four easy steps.

100000 (binary) = 32 (decimal)

The evidence is on the 32nd floor, looking out of the window, waiting... But you need to hurry up. When it is over, the Gray usually selfdestructs.

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 64   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Another Significant Alien Activity  on: Oct 22nd, 2017, 11:30pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Oct 17th, 2017, 1:47pm, Nyx wrote:
Well travex,

Over the many years I have made my own opinions about seeing UFOs, aliens , and abduction.

I believe certain people are born more susceptible to the paranormal.

I also believe E.T.s watch certain family generations through history.

Just saying.

The word "believe" expresses a degree of certainty, usually it's lower rank and there are several causes for it. Even though "belief" is mostly associated with religions, there are also scientific beliefs. That happens when there is not enough data to form a conjecture that fertiles the ground for a hypothesis that can be tested. So beliefs are difficult to prove wrong and are usually left alone.

I noticed that you wrote three separate lines of text not counting the closing two-word remark "Just saying." That's funny, because your nickname is made of three letters. This coincidence demonstrates what a belief can be all about: I believe that it is not a coincidence. But even a belief had to stand on something. As you said, your belief in the form of an opinion is based on many years of observation. So I would have to provide some explanation as to what makes me believe that you wrote the three lines of text under the ET's influence. But if I do that, I'll be messing with your belief, which is not commendable. See, unresolved belief often transforms itself into faith, and no one can reason with it, for faith lives outside the realm of reason.

What is reason?

1. a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.

2. the power of the mind to think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic.

Those are the two broad definitions of reason. The second definition says that the main engine for reasoning is logic. What is logic?

And so, one provides definition of that, and nothing gets explained, as additional definitions pile up...

Sometimes is better to show an example. It is your third line of text, which says the ET's are watching certain family generations throughout history, that can be used for the purpose. If your genealogy ends due to the lost or incomplete data, the ET's would surely help to tell you if there was someone very special in your family tree. But how would they do that; how would they tell you?

Well, there are many ways. The following comes handy. We test the meaning of "logic"; we use your nickname NYX and a make an assignment to first two letters.

N = 3
Y = 3

Is that assignment "logical?"

Hardly so. Both N and Y are different symbols, so the assignment should be different as well, which is not true, because 3=3. The transitivity clearly doesn't work:

N is to Y as 3 is to 3?

Nope. That's wrong.

But it is not wrong when "the incomplete data" is disclosed, e.g. when the circumstance of the assignment is known.

N = 3 (straight lines)
Y = 3 (straight lines)

Aha! See, an assignment can be a definition but also a description. In this case, the assignment was arrived at by counting the components that the symbols N and Y are made of - the components are straight lines and there are three in each symbol.

Now you can make a substitution:

If N=3 and Y=3 then NY=33

And now we are ready to append the third symbol X.

If NY=33, then NYX=33X

See how your nickname NYX transformed into 33X with the use of elementary logical assignments and transformations?

That's neat, but is there any meaning to that 33X?

That depends on the interpretation of symbol X.

X =

Next, complete the assignment with general description, not definition.

X = "one of the Christian type of crosses"

The 33X logical substitution for your nickname NYX starts to ring the bell.

If we are talking crucifixion, then 33 beside X is a familiar number, because Jesus Christ got stapled on the cross at the age of 33, as the most biblical scholars agree.

That means you are one of the descendants of the Jesus Christ genetic line, which the ET's are very much interested in.

Wait a sec! Jesus didn't have any children!

(WTF you know about what happened here on this planet, pope...)

Well, that's the base of my belief that the number of letters in your nickname Nyx and the number of the three explanatory lines of text wasn't not just a coincidence. It would probably be so, if you had not mentioned that the ET's watch certain families throughout history. Your "alien implant" just got active and took over your mind without you knowing. That's why it was decodable.

Now it is your belief against my belief - like Protestants against Catholics and all that crap that tries to make one belief better than the other belief, which is a provable logical fallacy.

Remember that the symbol X has been also used by the Microsoft guys in the Edit dropout menu to mean cut. So if you cut yourself shaving, all things can kick in...

Not to forget the cross-breeding, or the X-breeding for short.

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 65   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Another Significant Alien Activity  on: Oct 18th, 2017, 5:06pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Oct 15th, 2017, 10:37am, travex wrote:
Trump promises North Korea 'fire and fury' over nuke threat

But when the "fire and fury" becomes real?

It's encoded somewhere within the article in The Guardian.

That's what I thought, but couldn't find it. The Guardian is the ET's official newspaper, but it doesn't include everything with the important part of the story missing: it hasn't been disclosed which words the affected members of the US Embassy had difficulty recalling. Once the words are known, it is a straightforward thing. Since the CIA doesn't suspect any non-human interference, it doesn't treat the forgotten words as something important. I think we must send the agency to the church.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was...
John 1:1

Well, what was the word?

I don't know; I... I... hmm...that's strange - I think I know the word but can't recall it. It's like someone has blocked my memory.

Nonsense. No one is technologically advanced enough around here to block someone's memory like that. The only guy who could do that is God. So what's the word?

I told you; I think know it but can't recall it.

It looks like we must send the ET's email:
"Strange is your language and I have no decoder..."

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 66   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Another Significant Alien Activity  on: Oct 17th, 2017, 1:08pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Oct 16th, 2017, 10:09am, Nyx wrote:
Then one is left with the question, why me?

The question demands an answer and those affected folks would join a forum looking for similar cases to share their experience with or get some clues to the mystery. Once they have joined, the aliens take over their mind to choose various topics, so special folks could separate wheat from the chaff. In other words, posts from Nyx are more important than from others. But the contact through various dedicated forums is being discontinued, so one day you will become a free man again. That doesn't mean you are a slave - it doesn't really hurt when you choose topic A instead of B. What if a person makes the story of having been messed with the ET's up? There is a way to find out: for example a typo in the right place is the sign of genuity. Remember that during the posting activity, the aliens completely take over the mind of the poster...

How do the ET's choose a particular person?

It depends on the task the person is supposed to perform. In very ordinary cases, the choice is probably near random.

When the task is important, there are several criteria, for example a congruence between WHAT and WHO. If you look at the the words "alien abduction," you see that beginning=beginning and end=end.

alien abduction
a__n a_____n

So you can't abduct Jack and Jill just like that; you need to follow the feature identical beginning and identical end. Here is an example.

b____y b__y
barney betty

It's a bit more complicated, because the ET's need to avoid detection by the learned men of this planet.

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 67   General UFO & Alien Board / Another Significant Alien Activity  on: Oct 15th, 2017, 10:37am
Started by travex | Post by travex
We cannot detect any alien activity without the ET's making it "visible," meaning the description of events would include features observed and recorded during the investigation of the UFO phenomenon. One of them is so called "memory blocking," which came to the attention of those who decided to look into a UFO related matter known as the alien abduction, with its seminal case occurring in 1961 in New Hampshire, USA.

Let's put aside the real purpose of the memory blocking feature: the excitement dealers had to tackle one way or the other the issue of "missing time" in order to expand the more or less uneventful story of seeing a UFO. But the ET's wanted it that way, and Homo sapiens had to oblige, no matter how ridiculous the scope of the memory blocking, and mainly unblocking, became. And so the ET's also use the well-established "memory blocking" as a lighthouse pointing toward themselves as a cause of an ufolding (oops) unfolding mystery.

Here is how the memory blocking can manifest itself:

Some victims now have problems concentrating or recalling specific words, ...

Well, how do you suppose a person would recall words, like antidisestablishmentarianism, his or her memory having been tempered with by a big-eyed ET neurologist?

But wait. Let's finish the whole sentence...

Some victims now have problems concentrating or recalling specific words, several officials said, the latest signs of more serious damage than the US government initially realized.

Wow! The US government is investigating a case of an alien abduction! We must immediately contact Nick Pope and other UFO officials, because the whole paragraph suggests that hostilities have broken out between the USA and the Galactic Kingdom of Zeta Reticuli:

Some victims now have problems concentrating or recalling specific words, several officials said, the latest signs of more serious damage than the US government initially realized. The United States first acknowledged the attacks in August – nine months after symptoms were first reported.

See? Don't provoke the Reticulians - they are short-fused and attack without warning.

Well, it's not really so. The ET's just love to create mysteries...

Mystery of sonic weapon attacks at US embassy in Cuba deepens

And when they do, they make sure that none of it would make sense:

“None of this has a reasonable explanation,” said Fulton Armstrong, a former CIA official who served in Havana long before America re-opened an embassy there. “It’s just mystery after mystery after mystery."

In fact, almost nothing about what went down in Havana is clear.

That's not true. All one needs to do is to accept the idea that the universe is too big to accommodate just Homo sapiens and ask a few questions. The first one, and perhaps the only one, is to ask why was this going on only at US embassy in Cuba and reformulate the conclusion sentence:

In fact, almost nothing about what went down in Havana is clear.
In fact, almost everything about what went down in Havana is unclear.

But the reformulation using opposites means the same thing!

Not to the ET's, though. It is the last word UNCLEAR that makes the difference. It takes a typo,


and the reason why the aliens hit only in Cuba is around the corner...

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See, a very special time period since the Cuban Missile Crises is about to take place, and it is time for its observation. Things are already in place - the fireworks, the pretzel booths, and all the necessities, which would make the festivities a thing to remember:

Trump promises North Korea 'fire and fury' over nuke threat

But when the "fire and fury" becomes real?

It's encoded somewhere within the article in The Guardian.

Wait a minute! No UFO has been observed hovering above the US embassy in Havana! That doesn't go like that; the UFO evangelium speaks different!

Well, in that case we have nothing to worry about except our simian heritage.

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 68   UFO Hoaxes and Disinformation / Re: Identifying Fake Images/Videos  on: Oct 13th, 2017, 10:32am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Oct 9th, 2017, 2:36pm, Swamprat wrote:
Our job is getting tougher.....

The scientist who spots fake images/videos

Hany Farid discusses how to detect image manipulations — and the increasing sophistication of forgers.

“I’ve seen the technology get good enough that I’m now very concerned”
Generally, we think about which patterns, geometries, colours or structures are going to be disrupted when someone manipulates a photo. For example, when people add an object into a scene, we know that where they put the shadow is usually wrong. A viral video called Golden Eagle Snatches Kid from 2012 is one of my favourite examples. It took us only 15 minutes of analysis to show shadow inconsistencies: the eagle and baby were computer-generated:

Excellent... Take that footage some fifty years back in time and it would be considered hard evidence by many - evidence of large birds being really capable of snatching little kids, as rumoured.

Why not to take the video for what it shows?

Well, there are circumstances that call for further scrutiny.

The weavers of alien abduction stories are as much as careless as those who attempt a hoax without getting acquinted with other aspects of the scenario known mostly to experts.

However, some visual evidence presented is almost fool-proof. Now analyze this:

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 69   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Oct 11th, 2017, 08:06am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Oct 10th, 2017, 2:17pm, thelmadonna wrote:
If you hadn't already noticed I am so far the only one to engage on your tpoic, apart from the mods who were trying to intervene on my behalf. I never said it had to make any sense.

I had noticed and began to worry. You should keep praying to St. Betty and St. Barney for the protection of your senseless soul instead. I can't help you, for the powers don't reside within the radius of my galactic reticulum.
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 70   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Oct 10th, 2017, 05:43am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Oct 7th, 2017, 07:50am, thelmadonna wrote:
You wont want to hear my ramblings, don't care. If you divide by 9 and add the leftover one you get 11. If you feel like checking Route 11, Vermont then go ahead, In UK we use the term Road, so Road 11 is a place in the middle of the Grangemouth Chemical Complex, exactly where the famous Grangemouth UFO appeared and was pictured.

Did that UFO at Grangemouth Chemical Complex shoot more people dead than those who got killed in Las Vegas? How do you set up the priorities, forcrysake? Never mind...

Can you demonstrate what you meant by saying, "If you divide by 9 and add the leftover one you get 11?" When you say "leftover," do you mean by that the remainder? And to what number is the reminder supposed to be added to? Can do the math before our eyes?
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 71   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Oct 7th, 2017, 04:29am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 25th, 2017, 2:56pm, travex wrote:
Many abductees cry and/or fight, because they don't want to be sent back to Earth. You can stay there, but only if you answer a question. And that strip is also an example of one of the questions given when an abductee wants to stay. The ET's would say to an abductee: "Look at this


and then choose between Metternich and Darwin."

An abductee would think that the ET's are joking, but the question can be really justifiably answered. There was only one special case when an earthling was allowed to stay after picking Metternich on different, but related grounds. When asked for a justification of his choice, that guy said that he didn't have the slightest idea what that long number could mean and the same went for Metternich - he didn't have the slightest idea who Metternich was. The ETs appreciated that he gave it at least a try instead of going down on his knees, like some others do, pleading with the ET's for a permission to stay anyway.

Metternich or Darwin? Can they be really told apart looking at that number?

This thread hasn't been properly closed - it should end with some solution to the problem, which seems to be too difficult to solve.

The puzzle is linked to the UFO via the long string of digits, which were found showing no pattern whatsoever and were therefore deemed random. That's commensurate with an overwhelming majority of alleged UFO sightings where the behavior of the light(s) or the object(s) seems to be random as well. No one has ever succeeded in predicting where and when a UFO shows up next and what antics it would do.

But we have learned that not all digits in the string were of the same significance. If you want to find out how many digits is the string made of, you need to count. The process of counting has two special points: the beginning and the end. Since the string starts with 1 and ends with 0, those are the significant digits with respect to counting. This seems to be very suspicious, because we use 1 and 0 for other statements involving opposites, such as the beginning and the end. It can be also input and output - to choose from many examples.

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Since 1 and 0 are also the only digits that a binary numerical system is made of, we are just a few inches away from the trick of converting a decimal number to its binary equivalent. Once it is done, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,... pattern made of alternating substrings of ones and zeroes emerges.



The conclusion is that the decimal digits were actually not randomly organized, the same way the real UFO's are not zig-zagging the skies at will, even though we perceive it that way.

Because that problem wasn't that difficult to crack, the ET's came up with a little bit harder follow-up: We are supposed to look once again at the string of decimal digits and then choose between Darwin and Metternich.

There is actually a step-by-step methodology how to approach the problem, which we skip through for the sake of brevity. The penalty for that is that we won't be able very likely to solve this particular problem, but can take on conceptually similar problems easier to solve. We look at a much shorter string of digits and try to choose between other two notable folks.

19331945 = Winston Churchill or Adolf Hitler?

Hmm... Shouldn't be the puzzle rendered this way?

19331945 = WinstonChurchill or AdolfHitler?

There is no gap in the numerical string, so there should be no gap in the names, right?

Let' fix the inconsistency by splitting the numerical string in half to justify the gap in the names.

1933 1945 = Winston Churchill or Adolf Hitler?

Now it's time to learn the basics about Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler...

Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, PCc, DL, FRS, RA (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965) was a British statesman, army officer, and writer. He served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1940 to 1945 and again from 1951 to 1955.

Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was a German politician who was the leader of the Nazi Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; NSDAP), Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945 and Führer ("Leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945.

It's apparent that the string of digits 19331945 applies to Adolf Hitler rather than to Winston Churchill.

There is something special about Homo sapiens. This species learns and then tries to apply analogous method to a similar problem that it has learned to solve. Obviously, we would look at the long string of decimal digits trying to find a segment made of four subsequent digits, which make a number associated with the activities of Charles Darwin or Klemens von Metternich. But as we look, we notice that the last digit zero has a different color.

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754 991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640

Taking notice of this difference, which, in general sense highlights the end, or termination, we scan the principal biographical data of both notable guys... and we get really lucky with Metternich:

Klemens Wenzel Nepomuk Lothar, Prince von Metternich-Winneburg zu Beilstein (15 May 1773 – 11 June 1859) was a German diplomat and statesman and one of the most important of his era, serving as the Austrian Empire's Foreign Minister from 1809 and Chancellor from 1821 until the liberal revolutions of 1848 forced his resignation.

Klemens von Metternich resigned from his job in 1848 and from his life in 1859, with both numbers included in the numerical string.


So we confidently choose Metternich and are done. But not quite yet. Another look at the numerical string reveals an additional change at its beginning.


If Green is Go and Red is Stop,
then what is Bottom and what is Top?

That's easy:

But the opposite od EASY is DIFFICULT and the difficulty lies in the fact that the highlighted digits, one and zero, represent any opposites. That means we need to find two numbers in the numerical string, which apply to both Metternich and Darwin, and those two numbers must characterize opposites. Then we must choose one of the gentlemen - and that's not easy at all.

Is there any clue how to handle this problem?

Well, there is. The word RED has the same number of letters as LAS, and GREEN has the same number of letters as VEGAS. And so we must go to Las Vegas to see the clue to the puzzle:

Aha! Now it's really a piece of cake... rolleyes


What if Homo sapiens wouldn't try hard to solve it?

Well, there are 91 digits in that decimal string, so I'll be thinking in terms of 91.

Like what?

Like Route 91, for example. Then I'll activate that thing you call an alien implant.

I guess Homo sapiens didn't try hard enough...

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 72   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Can 200 students & 5 teachers be wrong at West  on: Oct 2nd, 2017, 01:23am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 23rd, 2017, 10:23am, Nyx wrote:
James Fox who made "I know what I saw" and "Out of the blue" is making another documentary about the 1966 Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia.
For 20 minutes the UFO was very close to the students and teachers.
James Fox believes that this is the UFO proof that will change history.

This case is a classic - an excellent example of simple cleverness. The messages in this UFO appearance are obviously not directed to those who are solely concerned either with their ego (I saw what I saw; I ain't no stupid!) or with the number of folks who attend Sunday masses in the local UFO church.

The Westall case, like the Ruwa case, belongs to the category of collective sightings where pictures were not taken. This category has met the fate of the dinosaurs, because anyone packs a mobile device with a built-in camera these days. The ET's used real imagery at Westall High - the students really witnessed an alien activity. But so many consistently-looking photos would be too dangerous in the hands of the UFO clergy - no need to water the weed of the Dark Ages.

Note that the Westall sighting took place in the same year when the best-selling book The Interrupted Journey - the story about the Barney and Betty Hill alien abduction - hit the book stores. That abduction case was also responsible for (arguably) the first images of the ET's visitors.

It became apparent that the nature wasn't kind to Zeta Reticulians, as they quickly evolved into the stable edition - the Grey aliens.

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The origin of the idea of the Grey is commonly associated with the Barney and Betty Hill abduction claim which took place in 1961, although skeptics see precursors in science fiction and earlier paranormal claims.

The time link (1966) between the sighting and the publishing of The Interrupted Journey was crucial, because the design of the UFO appearance at Westall High starts with the image of the Grey alien. The ET's used the image to make an initial rational point - an initial reason why the UFO showed up there. It goes like this: If you take the image of the Grey alien back in time - to the 17th century, for example - and ask who could the entity in the picture be, the answer would be the same: the devil. That's because the idea of an extraterrestrial entity wasn't born yet.

Now the ET's deploy a comparison:

The Grey is to The Interrupted Journey (book) as The Devil is to ? (book)

The most significant book available in the 17th century that mentioned the devil was the Bible. The devil is said to be the master of all tricksters and as such, it can take on different forms. Here is one of them:

This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
Revelation 13:18

It is the notorious number 666, which the devil goes by in the world of pop culture. It is apparent that the devil can easily hide among other digits and go unrecognized. Here is an example:


Unrecognized? I can see the critter sitting right there between 19 and 4. What a shabby disguise!

But that disguise actually worked very well:

196664 ---> 1966 6 4 ---> 1966, 6. April = the date of the Westall sighting.

I know of only one person interested in the UFO phenomenon capable of asking for a reason why the UFO showed up in that particular location and that person is the late J. Allen Hynek. What was it there that attracted the attention of the ET's? The place looked essentially the same as it had a month ago or so. But the date of the sighting in its compressed form 196664 suggests that the ET's saw the devil there: 196664. Obviously, they didn't see any "man the beast." in the school cafeteria. The devil (666) was a frame for the image of the Grey alien significantly associated with the Barney and Betty Hill abduction case described in The Interrupted Journey - a book that was published in 1966. It's apparent that the idea of the ET's reacting to the content of that book was foreign to the plethora of various UFO researchers at that time. (The UFO cardinals would scream in horror if they realized that the ET's can publicly review the content of various books that the cardinals have written. ("Bullshit! That didn't go like that.") LOL.

However, J. Allen Hynek was a tough cookie. The date of the sighting 196664 (compressed) featuring the number of the beast could be just a coincidence. He would also point out that there are other ten dates that the ET's could have used instead. Here are the first three alternatives:

196661 ---> 1966 6 1 ---> 1966, 6. January
196662 ---> 1966 6 2 ---> 1966, 6. February
196663 ---> 1966 6 3 ---> 1966, 6. March

Why would the ET's settle on 1966, 6. April?

Find a rational reason for such a selection and you reduce the chances that there is no relation between the date of the sighting and the devil (666) to 1 in 365. The question also functions as a filter. If someone wouldn't be able to answer it, he or she wouldn't be ready for the message. Secrets are secrets...

This and other logical puzzles are based on a conceptual solution to the various natural phenomena that learned men of this planet had to tackle in the past; they function as locked doors to the chamber where the secret message is located. Any person who can find the right keys to all the doors leading to the Chamber of Perpendicular Knowledge will also be able to understand the meaning of the message. Technically said, the keys are essentially various hypotheses that need to be tested. The hypothesis that passes the test is the key. The corridor between the doors is very poorly lit and so those curious folks must use a special flashlight:
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 73   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 1950 simple Kodak photos could be still the be  on: Sep 28th, 2017, 02:42am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 27th, 2017, 5:05pm, dave54 wrote:
ETs have 4 fingers per hand, not 5. So they would have an octal based number system. This throws out all the calculations above. Redo your analysis with octal numbers and it would make more sense.

Your argument contributes to the idea that the Babylonians were an alien race, perhaps from Zeta Reticuli, because their numerical system was sexagesimal - base-60. It follows that the hand of a Babylonian had 30 digits. Too bad that no cuneiform with sheet music survived - they must have been awesome piano players.
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 74   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 1950 simple Kodak photos could be still the be  on: Sep 24th, 2017, 12:00am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 12th, 2017, 8:57pm, Nyx wrote:
Several attempts have tried to proves these photos a hoax, but some how these two photos have survived the test of time.

The Trent case is very complex and partly remains a classified item to these days. So I don't know exactly how to construct the synopsis. The task is made more difficult by the fact that the ET's have been actively avoiding detection by the official scientific establishment, and for that purpose, they often lead public UFO investigators astray, which often results in a misguided effort on their part, which, in turn, the interested public may regard as a well-established methodology, and some even like it that way. In its extreme case, there are two shoeboxes: one is labeled REAL and the other HOAX. Then, those folks who regard themselves as experts in photography decide into which shoebox a particular photo depicting UFO appearance belongs. And that's it. Those few photos that have landed in the shoebox marked REAL are just enough to keep the faith alive.

But strictly speaking, the experts rarely or actually never repeat taking a picture of a UFO, which they deem by their expertise to be a hoax, for a comparison. This omission obviously violates the basic principle of science. But in the case of the Trent photo, it is virtually impossible to replicate it, and you will see why.

The intro to the case is... well, an alien one. It is a demonstration of ET's having far, far superior abilities of forming associations that we may be aware of, but which we regard as having no meaningful value. The alien abductees are often bewildered when asked various questions during psychological testing. Here is one related to the Trent UFO picture, which the abductee doesn't see though:

hoax or real?

"What 'hoax or real?' Where is the reference to the question?"

Now, the guy who works for the ET's raises his voice to accent a part of the question:

hoax OR real?

"Well, show me something on that screen, as always, so I can answer," the abductee demands.

By raising his voice, the psychologist is keen to find out whether the abductee is capable of substituting the blank screen with other information medium; if he or she would be able to consider the change in the audio level and visualize the coordinating conjunction OR.

If the abductee is an Oregon native, the chances of zooming in on a particular location would increase, because the postal abbreviation for the states of the Union comprises two letters, and the state of Oregon has been assigned OR.

Let's now reverse the role, put an ET kid in the chair instead and ask a few questions:

1) OR_____?
2) OR_____?

Let's see how the kid answered...

1) OR(egon)
2) OR(igin)

Hmm... Are (1) and (2) related?

If the answer comes from an ET, you bet it is. But what kind of relation is there?

The ET kid explains it this way: Oregon was born (origin) when admitted to the Union as the 33th state, and there exists a relationship:

OR <----> 33

See, OR is a collection of two letters: O and R. Since "and" can be substituted with "+" (one and one is two), it follows that

O + R <----> 33

By substituting O and R with numbers according to the way letters are organized in the alphabet, the relationship becomes an identity in particular:

If O=15 and R=18 then O+R=15+18=33.

We've never noticed, but the ET's did. Have you ever wondered what is a UFO doing in the middle of nowhere? It is NOWHERE for us, but not for them...

But that property is not unique among the states; there are other two states with the same property: Illinois and Nevada. (I+L=21 and N+V=36). How did the ET kid choose Oregon? Let's ask...

Grtedlishuunrfdaewqqodyroit, would you be so kind and highlight a few characters in the "Oregon identity" that explains your pick? You can bet your house that the ET kid will use ORange colOR for the highlight.

O + R = 33

See? What did I tell you... Unlike us, the ET's try to avoid random choices as much as possible.

The choice + and 33 couldn't be obviously random, and it is the task of a UFO hoaxer to find out the reason behind the choice. If the hoaxer fails, he or she can't possibly hoax UFO pictures. In most cases, you really don't need a photography expert to find out whether an image of a UFO is real or not.

By highlighting + and 33, the ET kid creates a new relationship:

+ <------> 33 ?

Here, the hoaxer may say this: "There is a relationship between + and 33, because + means plus, 33 is a number, and we add numbers, right?

That's true, but the same applies to Illinois and Nevada. The ET kid is well aware of the options that concern the interpretation of that symbol "+" and will use one of them.

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The symbol for plus is also recognized as one of the Christian crosses; namely, it is the Greek Cross.

Yes, but how does the Greek Cross relate to 33?

It probably doesn't, but since it is a symbol of Christianity, the question is modified accordingly and asks what is the relation between Christianity and 33 with respect to a cross.

That question has an answer:

That's right. The majority of scholars believe that Jesus Christ expired on the cross at the age of 33. Hence + <-----> 33

Now, when you go back to the original identity O+R=33
you also see that if the symbol for Oregon is OR, then there is a cross(+) in Oregon: O + R

Where is it? Can you find it?

There is a trick that helps: It's virtually impossible to find the particular cross(+) in Oregon - only God could do it. And so we go to a Catholic church to ask God for an advise. As you look around, you will see always the same thing:

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The religious artifact always shows Jesus being crucified on the Latin Cross. That means, we are looking for the Latin Cross in Oregon. How about this one?

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There must be thousands of "crosses" like that in Oregon!

Well, that's true. How about this one?

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If you want to play a guessing game, go ahead...

It's obvious that the ET's will mark the right cross. How? Well, the usual way.

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But the flying disc could have acknowledged the building, not the utility pole aka the Latin Cross.

That could be hardly so due to geometry. The ET's have tried to teach earthlings how to recognize unique vertex points, like the point of intersection

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but apparently in vain. You can see the classic example of two unique vertex points being linked in the next pic.

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Now you see two Latin Crosses: one is the utility pole and the other is made of the two lines of symmetry.

The ET's added one important parameter that makes the photo virtually impossible to replicate: Since Oregon is the 33th state, where 33 refers to the age when Jesus died on the cross, the time (years) becomes an important parameter. The photo was taken in 1950 where

1950 = "nineteen fifty"

Since "nineteen fifty" are two words - nineteen and(+) fifty - and

19 + 50 = 69,

number 69 must be included in the picture, as it is.

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It is the omni-important angle of inclination. Now take a frisbee, select a point of reference in the viewing area and by taking pictures, try to replicate what you see on the geometrically reconstructed Trent photo. The chances that you succeed are so high that you would give up trying.

It must be obvious to anyone equipped with a bit of sanity that Paul Trent hoaxed a pic of a UFO under the influence of his neural implant. The ET's simply turned him into a robot who performs tasks exactly as their computer model set it up without him having the slightest idea about it. Welcome to the real living universe...

And so, this is just the synopsis. The ET's included other features to evidence that Paul Trent did unwittingly exactly what the ET's wanted him to do.
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 75   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: There is a monster in the Atlantic called &quo  on: Sep 11th, 2017, 10:33pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 11th, 2017, 8:30pm, Swamprat wrote:
Yep, up near Tallahassee, we lost power for six hours and several roads were blocked with fallen trees, bu we escaped serious damage.

In the next year hurricane season, hurricane Lassie will make it as category 5 storm all the way to Tallahassee and you'll go airborne.

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That hurricane will have unusually wide eye and will spin much faster:

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 76   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Sep 11th, 2017, 12:22pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 25th, 2017, 2:56pm, travex wrote:
Many abductees cry and/or fight, because they don't want to be sent back to Earth. You can stay there, but only if you answer a question. And that strip is also an example of one of the questions given when an abductee wants to stay. The ET's would say to an abductee: "Look at this


and then choose between Metternich and Darwin."


Metternich or Darwin? Can they be really told apart looking at that number?

The debunkers would immediately dismiss the idea that the ET's would ever asked such a nonsensical question without bothering to show that the question lacks the necessary rationality to be considered as a legitimate puzzle. If it were not for the UFO debunkers, we would lose the opportunity to see the greatest examples of pseudoscience in the field of UFO skepticism. And so, Long live The Skeptical Inquirer! Well, not all contributors are semi-deranged individuals - sometimes they did make a point in that magazine.

Metternich and Darwin belong to the population of well-known individuals. That population - or a set - is large, going into thousands of folks who distinguished themselves one way or the other, so all what a skeptic needs to do is to show that names of any other two well-known individuals in that population could easily figure in the puzzle instead. In other words, the skeptic should show that there is no special relationship between Metternich and Darwin and that long string of digits. In yet other words, the skeptic needs to show that the ET's could have asked as well for telling apart Henry Ford from king George III while considering that long string of digits. But since the debunkers and hard skeptics really hate to be confronted by reason, they would run away, hide beyond the fence of pseudo rationality, and yell their obese denials from there.

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 77   General UFO & Alien Board / Heretic Kevin Randle  on: Sep 10th, 2017, 4:27pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
In one of his regular articles, which few bother to read anyway, titled "I retract My Original Billy Meier Comment," Kevin Randle discloses that he no longer takes one of the UFO messiahs named Billy Meier seriously.

I say again, this case is a hoax. Meier has not traveled around the galaxy. He has faked pictures. His predictions are found to be wrong or based on information that is already in the public arena.

Time has changed, so his opinion could resonate just inside the walls of medieval fortress named MUFON - no one else cares, because normally thinking person would reject Billy Meier's long tales upon their conception long, long time ago. Obviously the rest of the UFO apostles - a group to which Kevin Randle belongs - frowned upon his heretic disclosure.

Didn’t really say much other than I thought the claims to be untrue. I wasn’t calling Billy Meier a liar, I wasn’t saying the case was a hoax, only that I didn’t believe it, which I had thought was my right. I was immediately attacked. It was claimed that I had “defamed” Billy Meier, and that I should offer proof that Meier hadn’t been in communication with alien beings. I should either put up some evidence or retract the statement.

It's really funny to hear the words "proof" and "evidence" flapping their wings in places like that.

And now, no more a nice guy.

I say again, this case is a hoax. Meier has not traveled around the galaxy. He has faked pictures. His predictions are found to be wrong or based on information that is already in the public arena.

Anyway... it is nice to see that after so many years of hard research, Kevin Randle has finally arrived at the conclusion that Billy Meier is not "The Son of UFO" but ordinary man and a hoaxer as well.
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 78   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 4  on: Sep 9th, 2017, 5:30pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 31st, 2017, 9:57pm, Swamprat wrote:
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There is not much to tell, apart from the fact that the ET's tried to reinforce the striking similarity between railroad tracks


and the equals to symbol once more, using different means.

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Here is an example of their (futile) attempt to remove UFOlogy from the list of world religions.

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Some religious folks believe that the devil/satan, which the Christians encoded in the Bible as 666, can enter a human being and an experienced exorcist must be summoned to deal with the situation. But the ET's maintain that a human being can enter the devil as well. They've noticed that 666 is made of identical digits and therefore

6 = 6 = 6

applies. And so you can enter the devil (a UFO module) via those two tramlines shown in the photo.

The picture shows a formation of 6 outer circles, 6 mid circles, and 6 inner circles. But because the New Age religion, which monopolized the crop circles, doesn't recognize the entity of the devil, the meaning of the 666 formation near UFfingtOn, England has remained hidden.

Enough of religion - let's do some basic science instead.

Einstein’s Relativity Explained in 4 Simple Steps

The revolutionary physicist used his imagination rather than fancy math to come up with his most famous and elegant equation.

National Geographic created an interactive version of one of Einstein’s most famous thought experiments: a parable about lightning strikes as seen from a moving train that shows how two observers can understand space and time in very different ways.

Moving train? Professor Einstein, a train cannot move without the railroad tracks being laid down first. What? You can laid down the tracks with only one hand? I don't believe you. Show me...

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Oh! Alright. So we can now take a train trip from E to mc2, right? Devilishly simple, ain't it?
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 79   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Mexican earthquake sets off blue-green lights  on: Sep 9th, 2017, 12:18am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 8th, 2017, 8:59pm, Nyx wrote:
Citizens talked about UFOs or the apocalypse as the skies became blue-green from the earthquake.

The same effect was observed during the Northridge earthquake, as transformers were blowing up.

Here is the green effect

and here is the blue effect:

Say, Agtyrreobvssiuyterwotruik, can you do an orange effect, like something glowing orange?



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 80   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Always in UFO encounters a paralyzing light  on: Sep 7th, 2017, 5:59pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 6th, 2017, 9:59pm, Nyx wrote:
In the thousands of reported UFO and alien actual contact, a common theme is some sort of highly advanced laser technology.

The subject is put to sleep or has temporary paralysis by this alien laser.

This paralyzing light seems to be the method of choice.

Here are ten case studies.

The laser incidents were designed by the ET's to make it easier to identify people with alien implants among us, apart from those who reported the encounters. The laser light doesn't cause the temporary paralysis - it is the alien implant that begins to act upon the human nervous system. It is the code word LASER that has been used to identify other folks who unwittingly acted upon the commands received from the implants. The word is not difficult to decode.

1) laser

2) LAser

3 LA ser

4) LA ser_______?

5) LA ser(ial killers)

Not everyone listed might have acted upon the commands from alien implants. You need to study the cases of those UFO encounters, whereby the aliens coordinated the parameters of circumstances under which the encounters take place. (It is virtually impossible for a UFO illiterate person to make a true UFO story up.) Similar parameters would be present in the cases of serial killings. The murderer's mind would respond to the commands from the alien implant, so they are actually the ET's who decide on When, Who, Where, How, and so on. Those parameters will be coordinated in such a way that they will form a chain of very peculiar coincidences.

Here is a very simple example in case you want to select one serial killer from the list and look for a possible alien activity. It's obvious that you start with a single (code) word and that's MURDER.

MURDER ------> ?

Note that not all letters in the word are equal. The point of interest is letter R which, unlike the rest of the letters, appears in the word twice. So select it.

MURDER ------> R R

Now you have initials R. R., so you check the list of LA serial killers for someone with such initials. You bet you find it, because the aliens are very reliable in this manner.

The rest isn't that easy, and for the UFO illiterate folks, it is virtually impossible to show that yes, Ramirez was acting upon the command received from the alien neural implant.

And for the better part: The alien implants are essential in the cultural, scientific, and technological progress of human species, otherwise, "The damn speaking monkeys wouldn't make it past the Stone Age."
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 81   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nudists at a Welsh beach claim UFOs are watchi  on: Sep 6th, 2017, 8:25pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 6th, 2017, 1:28pm, Skeptical wrote:
I think it is far more likely that the aliens know that "nudist beach" is a thinly-veiled anagram for 'I abduct hens'. Remember this next time a poultry farm reports a rash of mysterious mutilations.



It wouldn't be for the first time that the aliens would scramble words, and make idiots out of UFO debunkers the likes of even Carl Sagan. But anagrams are rare. A hidden word in a two-word description is a better choice to measure the ability of Homo sapiens to handle multiple choices. In this particular case, there is the location described as NUDIST BEACH. Which nudist beach? There must be hundreds around the world!

The aliens picked a particular beach. What was their criterion of choice? If there is none, there is a 99.9% chance that there was no UFO involved and the folks saw some drones or whatever.

The premier UFO trolls, like Stanton T. Friedman, have always tried hard to remove reason from the head of the ET's, so their spillage would attract wider audience, but that brought about a boomerang effect.

Anyway... NUDIST BEACH is a comprehensive union of two words - an adjective and noun - as opposed to NUDIST TANGENT, or something similar that equally doesn't make sense.

In case of NUDIST BEACH, you can see that the second word harbors another word that lives in the dictionary - the word EACH. The first word NUDIST doesn't have such property - it only features DIST, which could imply DISTurbance, DISTinct or other words that start with DIST. Which word starting with DIST would apply here?

Use both words to answer the question - simply pick additional letters from them and build the word:


But there is a better, more comprehensive choice, isn't there?


Not really. You'll see why.

Ok, but what distance are the aliens talking about?

Repeat the procedure of picking letters from both words to answer that question:


Now you can construct a case of comprehensive comparison based on a meaningful relation:


See, the "better" word SUNBATHE doesn't have a "close friend," like DISTANCE has in INCHES.

Are DISTANCE and INCHES the only words derived from NUDIST BEACH that properly relate to each other?

You would have to make all 247,456 two-word comparisons to answer the question with certainty, because there are 704 possible words made out of NUDIST BEACH. Unfortunately, we don't have software that would understand meaning of the words, so the answer is very difficult to come by. But there is a trick which mighty increases the probability that DISTANCE and INCHES are the unique choices. Simply convert the inches.

Convert the inches? Into what, forcrysake?

The naturist section of the beach is now clearly marked by signs at both ends. Some naturists complain that the official section is too small - the traditional naturist area was 1 mile (1.6 km) in length.

The Wiki article explicitly mentions distance 1 mile, and the aliens are pretty much aware of it. That's why they selected Morfa Dyffryn nudist beach.

So let's do the conversion. I know, it's an embarrassing task for some male earthlings, like Swamprat, but that's the way it sometimes is.

3 inches = 0.0000473485 miles rolleyes

But the main puzzle is really the one in my first reply post.
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 82   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Nudists at a Welsh beach claim UFOs are watchi  on: Sep 5th, 2017, 3:06pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Sep 5th, 2017, 09:31am, Nyx wrote:
MUFON has been called in to help nudists claiming that they are being watched by aliens and UFOs.

MUFON has posted signs in the area asking for help from the people who use the beach.

So MUFON has been called in to help, but has posted signs asking for help from the nudists instead. That more or less predictable response from MUFON implies that the opposites are the issue. In particular, the opposites involve upper-case and lower-case letters, consonants and vowels, and the word "beach" also written backward. Which change {-->} from the following four is the most logical?

1) beach --> BeaCH

2) beach --> bEAch

3) hcaeb --> HCaeB

4) hcaeb --> hcAEb

Mankind, you better choose wisely...
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 83   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Coast to Coast video show UFO at U.S. Capitol  on: Sep 1st, 2017, 6:05pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 24th, 2017, 3:23pm, Nyx wrote:
Hmmm, maybe a bird?

It moves way too fast. You would need special software to slow it down to the point where the object could be positively identified. Someone has sent the footage to the Vatican - they obviously have such software there. So here it is again in super slow motion:

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 84   General UFO & Alien Board / ?FOIA - Part 4  on: Aug 31st, 2017, 9:32pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
We are not going to look much further into the sighting of this real UFO effect
that announced the coming of World War II, but obviously not with the intention to warn the world that it was up to something nasty. That was rather a demonstration of how the ET's can peek into the future.

The date of the sighting was 7/7/1939. How did the aliens decide on the date July 7?

From the previous part, we know that the aliens are very imaginative creatures liking our symbol for "equals to" to the railroad tracks. That means

7=7 ----> July 7

But they could have used a different date where Month=Day, June 6, for example.

6=6 ----> June 6

There are a couple of reasons why not. The first is rather obvious, but not to those who have never learned the way that the aliens speak. They use simple ID codes, especially when they link WHEN with WHO via two dates.

July 7, 1939 + 56 days = September 1, 1939

We know from the history that on 9/1/1939, someone attacked Poland, and we need to use the connector code 56 to figure out who.


Hardly so, because Swamprat = 7 (letters). That attacker had to be someone whose name is made of 56 letters. huh

Naw, no one has a name that long.

But from other UFO sightings, we know how to read improbable codes like 56.

Adolf = 5 letters
Hitler = 6 letters
AdolfHitler = 56

Adolf and Hitler are two names that belong to the same person and the encoding syntax is adjusted to the fact. (AdolfHitler)

And so, July 7, 1939 + AdolfHitler = September 1, 1939

with the "railroad tracks" leading from AdolfHitler to the date when he attacked Poland.

The UFO sighting in Iowa would have gone unnoticed, if it were not for the appended acronym ?FOIA => UFOIA, which clearly pointed toward the aggregated list of UFO sightings in Iowa.

The Poles were actually lucky that it wasn't Swamprat who commanded the Luftwaffe back in 1939, for he would mercilessly deny the Poles the places of relief first things first.

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 85   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: First Annual Devil's Tower UFO Rendezvous  on: Aug 30th, 2017, 10:34pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 30th, 2017, 1:45pm, Nyx wrote:
Hulett, Wyoming is trying to attract UFO enthusiasts on September 14th-16th at the Devil's Tower.

Has any UFOCB member ever been there?

Looks like very uninhabitable land.

The alien implants are busy firing commanding the UFO worshipers to make pilgrimage to the site where gods once descended upon the earth.

That's because this year marks the 40th anniversary of that event
but the 44th anniversary would become the significant one, and that's because Wyoming is the 44th state of the Union. The aliens chose Devil's Tower, because of the name initials D.T., knowing that when 44 years will have passed since the landing, D.T., or Donald Trump, would be up to his second presidential term - providing USA somewhat survives his first term.

The year 2021 will become very eventful not only for the USA, but for the whole world - lots of important things will have to be decided out there.
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 86   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Barbells and Angel Hair  on: Aug 30th, 2017, 4:54pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
I think that the Angel Hair phenomenon was one among the last attempts on the part of the ET's to show that the UFO manifestation is not some random spectacle and that the UFO reacts to what the ET's may see at the moment in the location where the UFO is observed. That's one of the reasons why alien abductions take place: The ET's test the type of human mind associations to construct a UFO sighting that the earthlings would have a chance of figuring out.

The ET's are not directly involved in the procedure; that's done by the extraterrestrial humans - folks who either evolved there or those who passed the test and were allowed to stay on Platforms HS1 and HS2.

In this particular case, abductees are shown two pics and asked whether there is a relation between them. If the answer is yes, the abductees are asked to write down one word that comes to their mind. Those answers are then compared and the most frequent one is used. Here is a real example:

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The most frequent word wasn't HAIR, because the mind of Homo sapiens, targeted class Cx/2, also takes into the consideration surrounding and laterals. So the most frequent word was BARBER.

The manager of the test, usually ET H. sapiens, then attempts to form an objective similarity to the chosen word by deleting a part and appending it:


In this case, after deleting just one letter, a new word is easy to find:


After that, the hybrid analytic computer designs a UFO display and executes it.

on Jan 16th, 2017, 11:23am, Swamprat wrote:
A couple of months ago, November 4th to be exact, this man was out in his backyard. His wife came out and said, "What in the world is that on your shoulder?!" He glanced around and saw a mass of white swirly stuff on his shoulder and arm. Perplexed, he looked up and saw a "barbell shaped" object up in the air overhead. It appeared to be somewhere between 20 and 30 inches long, looking like a pipe with a large steel ball on each end. As he and his wife watched the object, it rotated and rose higher, spewing more of the white stuff from both ends.

Note that R in the word BARBER was substituted with LL to read BARBELL. This substitution also forms an expression to be completed.

R_____LL ?

If you think RosweLL, then you are thinking right.

Unfortunately, the response to the UFO display have been always pretty dismal, especially those coming from planetary earthlings, like Stanton T. Freedman
who has been assigned to Control Group A. And so, some pretty radical changes in the breeding pattern of planetary Homo sapiens are being implemented. However, that can cause a problem for some communities.
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 87   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 28th, 2017, 3:49pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 27th, 2017, 2:18pm, thelmadonna wrote:
Your ego is getting the better of you. How dare you presume to know my story or that of any other abductee. They also don't delete your memory, they block it.

Blocking memories is a part of the UFO lore and got nothing to do with realities. Just the idea that a hypnotherapist swings a pendulum before someone's eyes, thus effectively unblocking memories is a joke. Poor aliens. If they just knew how easy is to unblock the memory - relaaaax, swing, swing - and the secret is no longer the secret.

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This is how it really goes: By pressing the Delete key, the ET's kill any chances that the abductee would ever even dream about having been in a very strange place. By pressing the Insert key, the ET's download certain type of knowledge into the human brain and then, when the abductee is back on the planet, the ET's press the Home key. When that happens, the inserted content is released and that causes folks, like Isaac Newton, suddenly getting smart. If it were not for this procedure, we would have still lived in the Stone Age.

You can also insert a data into a human brain remotely, but that feels funny when the data is large. The aliens sometimes make sure that a person sees a UFO that seems to interact with the observer. Add some time lapsing and that person gets very suspicious, visits a hypnotherapist who swings a pendulum. That person thinks that the funny feeling is caused by the hypnotic state induced by the pendulum, but it is actually caused by data transmitted and inserted into his or her mind - data in the form of a story that never happened. That's how the images of Grays and other space critters are created.

The ET's can fool us as much easily as we would the Neanderthals.

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 88   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Barbells and Angel Hair  on: Aug 27th, 2017, 12:07pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Aug 26th, 2017, 7:49pm, Swamprat wrote:
Newspaper article from south-central India...

Hair of the angels

By Author Sunday Scape
Published: 27th Aug 2017

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Another theory is that angel hair, in reality is ionized air sleeting off an electromagnetic field that surrounds the craft.

It remained a mystery until a barber shop UFO made an emergency landing in Area 51 .
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 89   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 27th, 2017, 11:39am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 25th, 2017, 4:01pm, thelmadonna wrote:
I don't remember ever being asked this question

That's because the ET's have deleted your memory upon sending you back home. That's why you mentioned that admin had not deleted your post, but eventually the mods did. And that means your memory was deleted out there. There are several reasons why the ET's do that and the main one is that your and other abductees' memories would conflict with the fairy tales spread around by the UFO theologians. The ET's make sure that their activities look as much as crazy as possible to deter focused interest.
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 90   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 25th, 2017, 2:56pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 25th, 2017, 01:09am, thelmadonna wrote:
The strip is an abductees return ticket, each one being individually numbered.

Many abductees cry and/or fight, because they don't want to be sent back to Earth. You can stay there, but only if you answer a question. And that strip is also an example of one of the questions given when an abductee wants to stay. The ET's would say to an abductee: "Look at this


and then choose between Metternich and Darwin."

An abductee would think that the ET's are joking, but the question can be really justifiably answered. There was only one special case when an earthling was allowed to stay after picking Metternich on different, but related grounds. When asked for a justification of his choice, that guy said that he didn't have the slightest idea what that long number could mean and the same went for Metternich - he didn't have the slightest idea who Metternich was. The ETs appreciated that he gave it at least a try instead of going down on his knees, like some others do, pleading with the ET's for a permission to stay anyway.

Metternich or Darwin? Can they be really told apart looking at that number?

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 91   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 24th, 2017, 2:37pm
Started by travex | Post by travex

You may as well read the OP again, especially this part:

"The decimal number 5103 was familiar only to the government UFO investigators. That number was a compressed date: 5/1/03, or May 1, 2003; and that date coincided with the date of recovery of the crashed UFO wherein the curious strip with the string of decimal digits was found."

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 92   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:10am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 21st, 2017, 6:41pm, ZETAR wrote:

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An answer that is clear, simple, and wrong... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm...

Oh! I know which answer is that!

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 93   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 21st, 2017, 5:04pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 21st, 2017, 12:57pm, thelmadonna wrote:
Don't be so condescending. Define your 0's & 1's into something other than an unfathomable puzzle. You would be as swell saying divide the number by 9 cubits squared. At least that way you will come up with something definable.

Your comment makes little sense.

1) We don't define something into something else; we convert something into something else.

2) If I divide that long decimal number by 9 cubits square, or practically 9^2=81, as you suggested, then the result is

15348727029572790987377871464860030720277379691248559591586244039460913439735706050450773 remainder 27

Do you see any order in the result? No? That's because there in none. The division returns another random decimal number.

But if I convert the original decimal number into a binary number, then the result is


Do you see any pattern in this result?

If you don't, then there is obviously nothing anyone can do apart from pointing out the pattern itself. I already did that, but apparently to no avail.

Do you think that the authors of the Arecibo mesage, which anticipates some basic analytic skills on the part of the hypothetical ET's, be better off to divide the long string of ones and zeroes, which they sent to space, by "9 cubits squared?"

I wonder if anyone around here including you can choose between Metternich and Darwin using the original decimal number.


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 94   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 21st, 2017, 12:35pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 21st, 2017, 07:22am, thelmadonna wrote:

You are the numbers guy Why don't you come up with the answer?

I already did. I think the construction was a bit hard for you to follow, otherwise you wouldn't ask.
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 95   General UFO & Alien Board / UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 20th, 2017, 4:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The UFO investigators of the past, people like Bruce Maccabbe
had the misfortune of not being able to exercise their expertise in acquiring photos of UFOs that would be taken quite professionally. The reason? Up to this day, no one has the slightest idea where the next UFO manifestation will take place. After those long years, it can be only concluded that the hypothetical ET's are genuinely disinterested in everything the media consider worth of covering. It is a common knowledge though that the ET's are, for example, very keen to learn something about a rural area field somewhere in Broken Downs, as Nyx recently recalled his/her own sighting. In other, general words, the UFO appearances are a towering example of randomness.

It was very long time ago when common sense revealed to Homo sapiens that randomness and purposelessness are close cousins. So, no wonder that SETI, for example, refuses to discuss the merits of UFO, especially when a skeptic can explain the reason for such a random behavior rather easily: There is no International Association of UFO Hoaxers, so there is a lack of coordination in this type of activity. Then we have the notion that 95% of UFO sightings can be rationally explained, which implies that the observer is more or less ignorant of the realities of this world. Those people are dispersed randomly around the globe, and that contributes to the random reporting of UFO sighting.

The point is that the skeptics can explain the reason for the random environment where the UFO lives, as opposed to the UFO researchers, who can't even peep on this crucial subject with the UFO theologians avoiding this topic the same way the medieval monks refused to speak about the devil during dinner.

However, there is another option to consider: the appearance of UFOs - those cases with higher degree of certainty of being the real deal - may not be random at all. We just can't see some order in it. Here is an example, which allegedly comes from a labeling strip made of a special composite material found inside a crashed UFO. The strip contained a long string of following digits:


The government investigators surprised the fact that those characters were Arabic decimal numbers - something that we can identified with - and so they paid a special attention to it. The string of digits was subjected to a statistical analysis, but it was found patternless, lacking any significant deviation from randomness. By implication, the whole thing was purposeless. But would anyone do something with no purpose at all?

The chief government investigator concluded that the purpose was likely the situation of Homo sapiens finding the strip and wondering about its meaning. By implication, the UFO crash had to be deliberate, otherwise the strip wouldn't end up in human hands.

The insight into a possible meaning of the numerical string came about as a coincidence. It was the remark, "God knows what that means, if anything" - a remark credited to one of the government analysts tasked to examine the strip because of its unusual physical properties. It occurred to one of his colleagues to reach for the Bible and look up the part where God describes himself via the mouth of Jesus Christ:

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

First/Last or Beginning/End are opposites, and the puzzling string of digits has naturally its own beginning and end as well. But the first digit and the last digit didn't seem to be a random choice,

1243 ......... 2640

because ONE and ZERO are widely used as opposites, mainly as TRUE and FALSE in logic .

Moreover, a string of ones and zeroes have been chosen as a mean of sending out the Arecibo message!

What are the chances that a string of decimal digits would start and end with exactly those digits that we use to render opposites?

The chances are 50 to 1 and that was enough to assume that the decision to start and end the first and the last digit of the numerical string with 1 and 0 respectively was not a random choice.

If it wasn't a random choice, then there must have been a purpose in the decision to start and end that random sequence of decimal digits that way. It didn't take long to realize that the leading 1 and ending 0 prompts a conversion from the decimal system into binary one. If the 91-characters of the numerical string is regarded as one decimal number, then it can be converted into a binary number - which is a number composed only of ones and zeroes.

The decimal-to-binary conversion delivered what was somewhat anticipated: it became apparent that it changed pure disorder into order.

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640 (decimal) = 100111000011111000000111111100000000111111111000000
111111111111111111111000000000000000000000000 (binary)

The 1, 2, 3, 4, ... pattern in the binary string is apparent and holds to the end of the string. Just make a space between the digits whenever 1 changes into 0 or vice versa and then count the number of the characters.


and so on.

The binary string is 300 characters long, so the chance that the digits would be organized in the natural sequence pattern (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...) is 1 in 2^300, or 1 in 10^90, which are obviously not negotiable and completely debunker-proof odds .

And so, what initially appeared as a purely random event turned out to be a complete opposite after an implied adjustment via the numerical conversion.

There is a substantial difference between the government interest in the UFO and the popular interest shared among UFO enthusiasts. The government knows that UFO is a real nightmare and so there would be further inquiry. In this case, the implication that the crashed UFO was a deliberate act on the part of the ET's had to be elevated to a hypothesis - the idea needed to be tested whether it was true or false. That means another look at the string of the decimal digits was due.

If the decimal-to-binary conversion proved that the decimal string wasn't a random choice of digits, then another "binary look" at the decimal string followed.


An independent observer would immediately notice that some digits of the numerical string are enclosed in parentheses. But not any digits: the enclosure concerns only 1's and 0's. Why?

When explained the whole story behind the decimal numerical string and its development, he or she would surely suggest to separate those enclosed 1's and 0's to form another binary number. And that's what the government analysts did - they picked the 1's and 0's from left to right and made a binary number out of them:

1001111110010 (bin.)

Would that number have any meaning when converted into its decimal equivalent? That was a cardinal question.

1001111110010 (bin.) = 5103 (dec.)

The decimal number 5103 was familiar only to the government UFO investigators. That number was a compressed date: 5/1/03, or May 1, 2003; and that date coincided with the date of recovery of the crashed UFO wherein the curious strip with the string of decimal digits was found. Since the US government captured only one UFO in 2003, the chances that the number-date 5103 was just a coincidence was 1 in 365. Such odds are too high to assume otherwise. So, yes, the hypothesis that the ET's deliberately crashed one of their vehicles has passed the test. After all, the indication that something like that would be happening in the future dates back to the very complicated Roswell case.

As you see, the idea that the UFO traffic is essentially a random appearance is very likely an incorrect insight into the works, but it is not exactly easy to prove it, even though the proofs run on the mixture of curiosity and common sense. I'm positive that the folks at Harvard, Yale, MIT, you name it, would have to think real hard to show that

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640 => May 1, 2003

If you think otherwise, send that implication problem to them.

Why would the ET's deliberately crashed some of their UFO's? Among the government investigators, the strongest speculative link leads here:

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 96   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 18th, 2017, 12:22pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 17th, 2017, 4:56pm, Swamprat wrote:
We all march to different drummers.

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Swamprat, MUFON informs me that your pic of what you sought was UFO has a rational explanation:

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 97   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 18th, 2017, 12:01pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 18th, 2017, 03:18am, purr wrote:
Travex, with the utmost effort I am able to follow the line of reasoning in your post, but I don't see how it describes objective reality.

Well, it happens to be quite demanding case for an unprepared mind, and I questioned a couple of times my intention to go ahead and post it. But The Casebook Forum has an excellent text editor, and so I sort of save it there for myself.

As you mentioned the term "objective reality," it is miles away from the UFO research, because the subject belongs to the box labeled "Hypothesis." There has never been an objective reality near the topic of UFO. On the contrary - many UFO attendees call themselves "believers." That description and "objective reality" move in fact in opposite direction. That's another reason why my scribble is so... well, alien looking.

In my post, I used the term "very likely" to stay abreast with a level of confidence called "hypothesis." You will hardly succeed breaking the shell of objective reality on the two pillars of UFO interest, meaning the Kenneth Arnold sighting and the Roswell case. Those are data based just on witness(es) accounts - no photos - as much as the Iowa sighting of 1939 is.

Similar situation exists in the world of cosmology and particle physics. If the Standard Model falls short of explaining some principal questions, a different approach to the puzzle is considered.

But such an effort solely based on "numerology" will meet with criticism, as it happened. Some even argue that the theory plainly failed, mainly because it cannot be verified experimentally.

I'm positive that a mere reverence to the alleged UFO manifestation will not open the door to the objective reality that you've mentioned, and which is necessary to show to the world that the UFO is indeed what is now believed to be. For that to happen, you would need an active participation from the hypothetical ET's, but you won't very, very likely get it. After all these long years, there has been no single instance of UFO manifestation that would move things closer to the objective reality spot. Why would that be different in the future?

Speaking of which...

It is not easy at all to do the math, but the odds are broadly in favor of the conclusion that the ETs knew beforehand that Adolf Hitler would attack Poland on September 1, 1939, which has became an objective reality that even Hitler didn't know back July 1939 - the date of the attack wasn't firmly set yet. That gives the alleged ET's presence a rational purpose of being around, e.g. secretly informing someone here about significant events that are scheduled to take place in the future.
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 98   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 11:40pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 17th, 2017, 4:56pm, Swamprat wrote:
I don't presume to tell anyone what does and does not belong on a forum such as UFO Casebook. We all march to different drummers. As for me, it is threads like this that are the bane of Casebook. Threads like this are insulting to those folks who have a genuine interest in the UFO phenomenon.

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Swamprat, it seems that the UFO on the pic you've pasted issues some kind of radiation, but the shape of the ET craft is really strange - I can't really tell if it is a UFO or if it can be explained rationally.

I wanted to ask you... What does it mean that "genuine interest in UFO?" Can you give me a couple of other examples?
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 99   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 4:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
Here is the way the ET's designed the UFO sighting described in the NUFORC report:

The railroad tracks are the way for a train to get from one populated place to another. Use your keypad to render the tracks. The symbol for railroad tracks, which are two parallel lines, is usually located in the upper-left part of your keypad:

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Now we are ready to take the train from September to One:

9=1 (1939) huh

As you see, our intention was thwarted by the fact that 9 doesn't equal 1. Laying down railroad tracks, symbolized by the "equals to" character, between 9 and 1 would be a gross mistake. But we can make another trip - no math error this time:

7=7 (1939)

Of course, 7=7 is just another way of writing the date 7/7, or July 7, which is the date remembered by the witness as the one when she saw the very strange object hovering over the local railroad tracks. And that's the reason why the sighting by the railroad tracks couldn't take place on 9/1/1939 when Germany attacked Poland: 9 really doesn't equal 1. In other words, the railroad tracks = leading from 9 to 1 couldn't be laid down due to the inequality between 9 and 1, and so the ET's had to choose another month and day or move away from the railroad tracks. They chose the former and you'll see why.

Can we also render the railroad tracks with respect to WHERE, that means with respect to Iowa?

Yes, not only we can, but we need to. It is the first letter I in the name of the state that comes handy. 'I' is a straight line, so we can easily use it to render the railroad tracks:


You need to come into grip with the fact that the ET's are extremely imaginative guys, so don't be surprised by the following puzzle: The train follows the tracks until it reaches a train station where it stops. Is the station on the right side of the tracks or on the left side?

1) II here?
2) here? II

How the heck can anyone tell?

The ET's can. Find the name of the train station first and that tells you its location alongside the tracks.

Are you kidding me? What name? Iowa? But that's a name of an entire state!

The name of the station are word(s) that you create according to the time circumstances, and the time circumstances are the year 1939 when the sighting took place. If the name of the train station is World War, then the station must be on the left side of the tracks:

War World II

Or was there more significant event in 1939 than the beginning of the deadliest war in human history?

So remember: When the aliens see an expression like World War II, the II part can remind them of a road or railroad tracks. Then, they would use the similarity as a base for the construction of a UFO sighting, like that one in Iowa back in July 1939.

Does that all mean that the event described in the report was indeed a real UFO manifestation?

No. At this moment, you can only assume that it was likely real, because there are other logical options for the date (month and day) of the sighting.

But wait! What if the woman didn't look out the window? In that case the whole event would go unnoticed and we would never learn anything!

There are always ways and means to prevent that happening:

Once in the middle of the night she sat up in bed and felt compelled to look out her window.

Aha! She felt compelled... Wasn't Adolf Hitler compelled to attack Poland back in 1939 as well?

Clearly, it would be a mistake to entirely disregard the UFOlklore.

We can find out more about that in Part 4. Or wouldn't be better to preserve the image of the ET's as insane space nuts who keep showing up here and there for no apparent reason? After all, that option is much easier on "the CPU" in our heads.

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 100   General UFO & Alien Board / ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 3:41pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
FOIA is the abbreviation of Freedom of Information Act. The UFO writers liked to peek into the government files released to the public through FOIA to support the idea that space visitors have been snooping around our planet. Those were the government files and the appeal to the authority as an argument really counts.

The government doesn't seem to be overly excited about the idea of a possible alien presence, because the ET's can reveal to the public any government secrets - there is really no way of hiding anything before them. To reveal one deep secret, the aliens used a special key that opened another "FOIA file" to select a rather important UFO sighting, which the Project Blue Book doesn't mention. The key looks like this:

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You place the U-key in front of FOIA, and the magnetic attraction will do the rest in two easy steps.

1) U <--- FOIA

By attracting FO, the U-key breaks apart FOIA and that opens the acronym right in the middle.

Closed: FOIA
Open: FO IA

That's a neat trick, but there is nothing in there - there is just an empty space between O and I!

We can't see anything, because we, as very often, fail to see the "overall picture" and that is

UFO IA: UFO=Unidentified Flying Object, IA=Iowa

And off to Iowa we go to see that special UFO...

Oh, dear! Which sighting do the aliens mean?

If you take into account the expression UFO IA, its obvious that the particular UFO sighting got something to do with IA. The expression UFO IA actually defines the particular UFO as IA. So if you happen to see a UFO in Iowa as it splits into two parts

IA ---> I A

you know that the aliens figured out how the postal symbol IA for Iowa came about:

IA ----> I?A ----> IowaA

It also means that the particular UFO sighting we are looking for is defined as I A with a space between I and A.

That's all very nice, but the defining term I A doesn't appear in the NUFORC long list of UFO sightings in Iowa - there is not one incidence of it on the entire page!

Well, sapiens, what are you going to do now?

That's a silly question. We quit the search. Duh.

But before we quit, we can at least separate the special from the ordinary in some other way, not to look completely stupid in the eyes of the whole universe. If you look at the NUFORC webpage, you see that the majority of the text is black, but there is a special exemption: the leftmost data column is printed blue. Moreover, if you click on it, there will be a page redirection. This special blue column is made of numbers - these are the dates in which the various sighting took place.

Too bad that the definition is made of two spaced letters I and A instead of two spaced numbers. We could have used the special blue column to search for the special sighting by date; we could have named our search for the special UFO "Project Blue Column" instead of "Project Blue Book." Oh, well...

Please note that there is a profound difference between the ETs and us: they never quit; they don't have that word in the dictionary...

So, you smart ET asses, how does it go, then?

You get the idea from Part 1 and Part 2, the latter not being a separate thread...

If letters are not of any use, but numbers could be, you can convert the letters into numbers using the most natural way and that's the alphabetical order. So, if I=9 and A=1, then a conversion is due.

I A ----alphabetical order----> 9 1

Since Iowa is in the USA where the MDY date format is used, it follows that

(9 1) = (September 1)

Now you check the blue column to see if there is only one instance where a UFO was observed on September 1.

As you see in Part 1, that's not the case: there have been more than one sighting like that in Iowa. Is it possible to select from the special September 1 list the unique UFO sighting?

Unfortunately, there would be no near consensus upon the attempt to tell the things apart...

In this situation, quitting the search is not an embarrassing option. Just take the case to the Nobel Prize winners and they fold up too. But before we go, we should consider an easier case and attempt to select a significant September 1 in human history, so there would be no or a little disagreement. How about

September 1, 1939?

On that date, the most terrifying war in modern human history broke out, claiming some eighty million human lives. So it's hard to argue that the year 1939 wasn't sadly special as well. And now... Click! And we are done:

Mother sees UFO above railroad tracks in 1939.

There is only one sighting listed for the year 1939 in Iowa, and only one means unique. From the above, you can see that Iowa, 1939 is the same as September 1, 1939, courtesy the postal code IA.

(Iowa, 1939) ---->( IowA, 1939) ---->(I A) ----> (9 1) ----> (September 1, 1939)

Wait a minute! The date of the listed sighting is 7/7/1939. It should have taken place on 9/1/1939, no?

The surprising answer is "NO!"

See, that woman could make the story up, or there could be possibly some other explanation to what she saw. Her son could have made the story up as well. The aliens are
pretty much aware of these options and need to adjust the circumstances of the sighting the way there would be a coordination between the principal data of the sighting. See, if a person reports a UFO by making the event up, all the data he or she come up with would lack any coordination - the data would be in essence randomly chosen. In the case of a true UFO sighting, the data will be coordinated. Here is the part of the description to focus on:

She said she could tell there was something large there although she really couldn't see anything, just a huge black oval "space" where there were no stars or anything else visible. She could tell it had a shape and it hovered over the tracks for about 10 minutes and made absolutely no sound. She never saw anything like it again but clearly never forgot about it.

Note that there is a special word in the excerpt. It is the only one enclosed in quotation marks, and the word is space. As a matter of fact, the preceding adjective is "oval," so you can render it as ( ) - the space between I and A:

I( )A

Are we on the right track? Let's read it once more:

She said she could tell there was something large there although she really couldn't see anything, just a huge black oval "space" where there were no stars or anything else visible. She could tell it had a shape and it hovered over the tracks for about 10 minutes and made absolutely no sound. She never saw anything like it again but clearly never forgot about it.

Very likely we are...

At this point, it would be very helpful to adjust the story, so the woman would go out and talk to the ETs.

What are you doing here?

What does it look like, ma'm? We're looking at the railroad tracks.

You never saw railroad tracks before?

We did; we just examine them looking for cracks. We try to be helpful as much as we can. The safety of mankind is a thing very close to our heart.

The fact that such a conversation never took place doesn't change the situation that the peculiar object, which the woman saw, was hovering above railroad tracks. If the object was a real UFO effect, then there had to be a reason for its position above the railroad tracks.

So let's try something else for a change: let's attempt to find a reason to the activity of that alleged UFO that the woman claimed seeing back in 1939 in Iowa. See, UFO is about an intelligent extraterrestrial life, and intelligence is also about reason. It follows that where is no reason, there is no intelligence and consequently no credible UFO story no matter what the UFO bishops have tried to push through.

In the next post, we'll find out that the woman was very unlikely to make the story up. . . .
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 101   General UFO & Alien Board / Why Do Some UFOs Split into Two Pieces?  on: Aug 12th, 2017, 3:47pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
We wouldn't even find out about this effect if it were not for the ETs who have the habit of keeping their "craft" nicely illuminated, so the earthlings wouldn't miss the show after the sunset. Obviously such a display has its own purpose similar to the one of a signaling flashlight. Some four hundred years ago, people ignorant of electricity and the Morse code would surely wonder about the nature of "the devil's light." However, the chances that they would ever figure out the Morse code watching the light pulses and could read the message are virtual zero. So why would the ET's even bother doing something similar?

That's because they include heavy clues how to extract their messages.

Here is an example of such a clue:

Any object can be rendered as a character string, like XXXXX, &&&&&&&, 123456, Y67ccDA$g9G, and so on. Let's consider object XXXX. You look by chance at the nighttime sky and see something peculiar - something that is not a usual guest to the p.m. skies. As you watch the well-illuminated object, it suddenly splits into two comparable parts. You can render the change this way:

Before splitting: XXXX
After splitting: XX XX

If you organize the change as a sequence of events, you get this:


Does that rendering remind you of something?

If it doesn't, you can include a slash to indicate that object XXXX was divided into two parts:


If that still doesn't ring the bell - well, there are other fun things to do in life...

So what could be that rendering reminiscent of?

Here is an option:

XXXX( )XX/XX => 1947( )06/24

A date in the YearMonthDay (YMD) format?

The YMD (or YDM) format is actually the UFO....? (UFOrmat) that relates to dates.

This idea needs to be tested. Suppose that a family goes on a trip to Yellowstone where, on the 4th day of the month, shoots a video of an object in the sky splitting into two parts. How would you render the object?

There is one unique letter in the name Yellowstone and that's the first letter, because its the only capital letter in the name. Since the sighting took place on the 4th day of the month, you copy letter Y four times to get the rendition (definition) of the object in its solid form.


Since Y stands for the year, the splitting of YYYY into YY YY calls for splitting some year into two parts. Let's try it with the current year.

YYYY is to YY YY as 2017 is to 20 17

Well done. But what is the meaning of that split numbers 20 and 17? It cannot indicate month and day, because there are only twelve months in the year.

Here comes the ever-clever solution: You can extract the rest of the full date via WHERE. The extraction depends on the symbol that you stick between 20 and 17 to fill the space. Since "and" also means "+", you can make the substitution.

20 and 17 -----> 20 + 17

Since 20 + 17 = 37, WHERE=37.

It all makes perfectly sense - WHERE indicates some location that has been assigned number 37. Had the number been 51, like WHERE=51, the ET's would have surely referred to the notorious Area 51. But the split year 2017 returns WHERE=37. What the heck is 37?

Keep thinking in the terms of s p l i t t i n g and experiment a bit. See, you can also get 37 by splitting object 5013, this time using "minus" as a separator:

5013 ---> 50 - 13 = 37

In other words, you split USA into two parts: the 13 original states and those 37 that followed. Now the rest of the full date is easy: get that 13 in terms of Day & Month. Here is the solution:

Split Year: 20 + 17 = 37 (the number of the follow up states)
Day&Month: 21 - 8 = 13 (the number of original states)

where 21-8 means 21. August.

Hold on, right now! There is an obvious ambiguity in the whole scheme, because there are other options how to arrive at 13. Here are a few Day - Month = 13 examples:

13 = 22 - 9 or 22. September
13 = 20 - 7 or 20. July
13 = 19 - 6 or 19. June

all the way to 14. January (14 - 1 = 13)

So why is the solution 21. August (21 - 8 = 13) unique?

The reason is that 2017, 21. August marks a significant relation between {WHEN: 21. August 2017} and {WHERE: USA (13+37 states)}

Really? But I don't see any significance in it.

Well, the reason why you can't see the significance, dear earthling, is because it got too dark to see anything, and that's because the sun quit - right in the middle of the day:

The so-called Great American Total Solar Eclipse will darken skies all the way from Oregon to South Carolina, along a stretch of land about 70 miles (113 kilometers) wide. People who descend upon this "path of totality" for the big event are in for an unforgettable experience.

Aha! Hmm. Well... Okay.

So here is the special link between WHEN and WHERE once again.

21. August ---> 21-8 (natural syntax) ---> (21 - 8 = 13) ---> (13 original states)
2017 ---> UFOsplit ---> (20 17) ---> (20+17) ---> (20+17=37) ---> (37 follow-up states)

This WHEN/WHERE arrangement is really a cool coincidence and serves mainly as a template for significant earthquake prediction ET messages. But is it a coincidence or did the ETs pushed a bit to make it happen?

Remember that when Kenneth Arnold spotted those nine strange objects back in 1947, the USA was made of only 48 states and so the "Great US Solar Eclipse Coincidence" wouldn't have materialize had the count stayed that way. But to answer that, one needs to go back to the Roswell case and figure out what the ETs signaled there.

What? They signaled something? Like hell they did. The ET pilots were drunk, or fell asleep at the controls after the long inter-space journey failing to see a weather balloon in front of them. The collision send both their lovely saucer and the balloon down.
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 102   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 11th, 2017, 1:47pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 10th, 2017, 9:53pm, Nyx wrote:
I guess us "true believers" are getting so old that we just head into the sunset and dissolve from existence.

true believers --->

Why is it that the true believer in the middle wears a different outfit? It's white.

That's because Roman Catholicism has hierarchy and the highest true believer of them all is the pope. So there is a distinction in the dress code.

Aha. That means Roman Catholics are like the Western UFOlics. They have the pope as well.

They do?

Yes. But that pope seems to dress ordinary way.

LOL. No, that's not the pope, but Pope - Nick Pope.

So if Pope is his nick, what is his true name?

Geezus, you've been around this planet for more than a half of a century and never learned anything about earthling's names? The first, the last...

...and the middle. That means Pope is his middle nick, because the pope is in the middle.

You know what? Keep flying around another half a century and maybe you figure it out.

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 103   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 10th, 2017, 1:42pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 10th, 2017, 07:17am, skizicks wrote:

What were you looking for when you dropped in that first time? Was it a discussion on music? A place to swap opinions on politics? Or pollution?

The inclusion of the off-topic subjects runs parallel with the expansion of themes within the community of UFO writers - themes such as the conspiracy theory involving alleged government cover-ups and so on. The UFO writers needed to attract more readers to boost the sale of their books, because the sole debilitating issue of whether a particular sighting is a real manifestation of intelligent ET life or not - with either conclusion not having the slightest impact on the silly task of proving to the world that the PhD's at SETI are really a bunch of incapable fools - would have driven the subject of UFO into a speedy extinction. That effort to extend the life span of interest in UFO through such diversification has finally run out of steam; the issues involved became over the long years boringly repetitive for just too many attendees.

There is an active ingredient in the whole mix and that is the believed-in ETs themselves. They control the situation; it's up to them whether they would ever purposely create such a condition that there would be no doubt whatsoever that an observed effect(s) cannot be man made, including a hoax, or be attributed to the nature. The problem is that they are not sticking around this planet to prove anything to anyone - they are here for the sole purpose of showing up here and there, and there and here, and back and forth they move around occasionally crashing when the process of splitting their craft into various parts goes awry. They keep flying their craft while changing their colors and shapes prompting the final conclusion: We can't come up with conclusive evidence that the ETs are a real article; we can only prove that they are apparently nutty guys.

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 104   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 8th, 2017, 09:19am
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 8th, 2017, 07:09am, thelmadonna wrote:
Dont believe all you read!!!

Except what is written in the UFO books, right? laugh

There must be some reason for the OP bemoaning the state of affairs.

Interest in UFOs waning

UFOlks are not the only ones with corroded faith - there are others.

An Honest Look at Catholicism’s Decline

What to do, what to do...?

Long Decline In Attendance Led To Catholic Church Mergers

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 105   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 7th, 2017, 1:37pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
UFO Interest In The U.K. Is Dead, Or Soon Might Be, Says Leading British Paranormal Organization

Wood speculates that, at least in the U.K., there’s a possibility that within 10 years, UFOs may become a dead issue.

Part of the problem is that it seems like most believers have more faith than evidence in the idea that aliens are coming and going, and we can’t do anything about it.


search for evidence --->
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 106   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 6th, 2017, 1:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
?FOIA - Part 2

The expression ?FOIA doesn't make sense, because if you google it up, the search engine fails to find a match. And that concludes Part 2.

Wait! Can we settle for less? It's true that there is no match to be found, but the first near match that the search engine came up with is - Freedom of Information Act. So at least we know that FOIA is an acronym and not some nonsense word.

Okay, but there is that leading question mark added and there are no abbreviations with question marks in front of them. So the whole expression is a nonsense and that concludes Part 2.

Hold on for a sec. The inclusion of a question mark doesn't have to be nonsensical - it can have some purpose. Here is an example:

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There is no W?RD in the dictionary, but this one is:

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What if the question mark in ?FOIA is a prompt that asks us to add one more letter?

Well, maybe. But which letter? Any letter?

Very likely not. After the selection and addition of the letter, the result should make sense. I think the best thing would be to create a list of all possibilities - we can try adding letters from A to Z and then google up each case if something meaningful shows up...

UFO IA <---- wtf?

Oops! There is a mistake in the list. Right there, when the question mark got replaced by letter U, the whole thing UFOIA split into two parts: UFO and IA.

This is really a peculiar mistake, because both parts UFO and IA happen to have a meaning: UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object

and IA is a postal abbreviation for Iowa.

In this view, there is a chance that the mistake of splitting UFOIA into UFO and IA was a deliberate mistake, which the ETs love to do. So let's visit the National UFO Reporting Center to find out if someone in Iowa caught a glimpse of the ETs splitting their advanced craft into two parts right in the air without that thing crashing down.

Aah, here we go... There was indeed a unique case like that reported.

1993 Evening Ufo sighting over Ottumwa, Iowa. Singular object splits in two, lights fly across sky.

Hmm. But that report could have been made up, or the effect observed could have had a rational explanation with the ETs not having the slightest idea that the Freedom of Information Act, which some of the UFO cardinals love so much, even exists!

Is there any way to figure the reality out? What are the chances that the 1993 sighting in Iowa was solely designed to model the split of UFOIA into UFO and IA, with the implication that the UFO effects are in fact a secret communication between the ETs and Homo sapiens?

In order to increase the chances that the implication is true, the ET's would have to coordinate the TIME with the LOCATION of the sighting with respect to what was OBSERVED to begin with. So here are the "tags": 12/19/1993, Ottumwa, Iowa, and the split of a single "object" into two parts.

One way to approach it is to design your own UFO sighting which refers to the Freedom of Information Act - FOIA - and compare the difference between your construction and the 1993 Iowa sighting description.

In Part 3 the ETs will use the UFOIA (the "UFO Information Act") to make an interesting disclosure...

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 107   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Metropolis, Illinois, 2 eclipses in 7 years  on: Aug 5th, 2017, 10:00am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 4th, 2017, 10:12pm, Nyx wrote:
Metropolis will have a solar eclipse in 2014, "holy superman".

The center points of two spheres - the Sun and the Moon - define a straight line that intersects the earth surface during both total solar eclipses at one point, and the point is Makanda, IL - a village 53 miles NNW of Metropolis.

Total solar eclipses: The center lines of the paths of the solar eclipse of August 21, 2017, and the solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 will cross over Makanda. Tens of thousands of spectators are expected to flock to Makanda and surroundings to witness the 2017 eclipse.

The sky will get dark during the eclipse and that would become an opportunity to mistaken a planet for a UFO - but there is no planet close enough to the earth at the time of both eclipses in 2017 and 2024.

The darkened sky that forms during solar eclipses is normally closed to UFO traffic, because too many people would see it, as thousands gather for the solar eclipse spectacle. But, according to the ET calendar, the eclipse day of August 21, 2017 falls on the Great Galactic Victory Day and because it is an ET holiday, UFOs won't operate anyway. cry

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 108   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 4th, 2017, 4:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 4th, 2017, 3:22pm, INT21 wrote:


...But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?..

You tell us, you put it there.


I did, right after the question.

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?

What on earth are you talking about. Or are you simply taking the P*ss ?


You missed the rest, which explains that the misplacement of the question mark was very likely a deliberate act, because, unlike the cases involving misspelling, a letter omission, or typos like that, you don't find an example of such a mistake. Here it is once again:

The odds are against such a conclusion (that it is a normal mistake), because similar mistakes, like

?How many
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.

You have probably a difficulty to understand an example of a deliberate mistake, such as the ?FOIA. If the position of the question mark is not a mistake, then it is a deliberate act and the question is WHY? It's too bad that the word WHY is missing from the standard UFO research dictionary.

When the ET's see acronym FOIA (Freedom of Information act) they imagine letter U before FOIA right away, because UFOIA makes a funny coincidence - it is something special. (If you don't know why it is special, please stop reading any furher.) If they want to share it with us, they simply split UFOIA into two parts - UFO and IA - and off to Iowa they fly, because Iowa (symbol IA) is the only logical place to leave the message.

See, some folks don't give a damn about what the UFO bishops keep preaching; they want to hear the ET's side of the story too. That means those folks need to learn the way that the ETs speak.
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 109   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 4th, 2017, 08:04am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 3rd, 2017, 4:45pm, INT21 wrote:

...But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?..

You tell us, you put it there.


I did, right after the question.

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?

The odds are against such a conclusion, because similar mistakes, like

?How many
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.

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 110   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 3rd, 2017, 11:05am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 3rd, 2017, 10:15am, Swamprat wrote:
?Travex, you either need to see a psychiatrist, or get a girlfriend.

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What makes you think so?
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 111   General UFO & Alien Board / ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 3rd, 2017, 07:15am
Started by travex | Post by travex
The acronym in the title very likely stands for Freedom of Information Act, which "allows for the full or partial disclosure of previously unreleased information and documents controlled by the United States government."

Note that there is a mistake in the syntax: the question mark appears on the wrong side; the question should read (What is) FOIA?

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?

The odds are against such a conclusion, because similar mistakes, like

?How many
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.

That means ?FOIA is very likely a deliberate mistake and therefore there must be a reason behind it.

One option that could explain the oddity is that the question mark on the left of F stands for an unknown letter, which would append the four-letter acronym. The choice of the letter may depend on the circumstances, so let's present a particular instance where FOIA can become very helpful in a particular way:

Now, even a medieval monk wouldn't fail to solve the puzzle of the additional letter.


He wouldn't also fail to realize that UFOIA is a unique intersection of two acronyms: UFO and FOIA. This is really a peculiar coincidence not to be overlooked. We can now speculate that the ETs have their own Freedom of Information Act - UFOIA - which allows the earthlings to look into the purpose of various UFO activities.

So let's test the idea. For this purpose, the new acronym UFOIA becomes something that we see in the sky - something that prompts an observer to file a report with MUFON. As we watch the object, it suddenly splits into two parts, which is not in reality an
uncommon feature.


Wow! Look at that!

But does such a split make any sense?

It seems that it does, because the split forms two standalone acronyms - UFO and IA - with a meaningful relation between them.

UFO = "Unidentified Flying Object"
IA = "Iowa"

Here is the premise: If the ETs know about the special UFOIA acronym, there has to be a UFO sighting in Iowa that would refer to it. All we have to do is to check with the National UFO Reporting Center - State Report Index For IA.

Oh, you gotta be kidding me! There are hundreds of reports aggregated!

Fortunately the ETs have developed a methodology how to reduce a long list of items. One simple method that selects the special from the ordinary is the WHERE to WHEN conversion. In this particular case, we convert the name of a location to the time. How is it done?

Well, in this case the two-letter symbol IA that stands for Iowa gets converted to numbers, which a date is made of, by using the alphabetical order. Since I is the 9th letter and A is the 1st letter, the conversion is simple.

1) Iowa ---> IA ---> 91 ---> any year ending on 91
2) Iowa ---> IA ---> 91 ---> 9/1 ---> September 1

There have been eight sightings in Iowa that meet condition (1) or (2) and those are the special sightings with respect to UFOIA.

But out of those, how does one select the unique one?

The standard human methodology is to consider only the "real" sightings, but with no photos included in many of the reports, this method has limited application.

One must realize that the ETs control the situation and if they want to refer to the UFOIA feature, they will adjust the circumstances of the sightings.

So far we have selected eight candidate sightings and that was done according to the WHEN criterion. It follows that some consideration must be given to the WHERE criterion. So here are the names of the locations where the sightings took place:

8/31/91 Councel Bluffs
9/1/16 Cedar Rapids
9/1/16 Marshalltown
9/1/05 Boone
9/1/78 Sioux City
9/1/72 Onawa
9/1/71 Humboldt
9/1/58 Perry

The list includes 5 one-word names and 3 two-word names. The strategy of further selection would now depend on a similar difference:

UFOIA = 'one acronym'
UFO IA = 'two acronyms'

Both UFO and IA are standalone acronyms with a meaning (Unidentified Flying Object and Iowa). Those two will join each other to form one acronym; that is, UFOIA.


The ET's will select the location of the sighting accordingly - they will join two standalone words with a meaning to form the name of the location. In this case it is Marshalltown.


But what does this sighting disclose, if the UFOIA - the ET version of Freedom of Information Act - is real? If it fails to disclose anything, then the whole UFOIA test fails too!

Well, the ETs disclosed from where the UFO observed in Marshalltown, IA took off: MARSHALLTOWN

But we want to know more than that and it means we need to find another unique item on the list by using a different criterion of choice. That one is really interesting - maybe shocking?

Let's close Part 1 with a commendation to the National UFO Reporting Center for maintaining its indispensable database.
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 112   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: E.T. is winning by the sheer number of reports  on: Jul 31st, 2017, 02:54am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 30th, 2017, 10:34pm, Nyx wrote:
Even NASA is having trouble explaining UFOs at the ISS.

The E.T.s seems to have even bigger trouble explaining UFOs near the ISS. Are they spying on the latest of man-made technology? What would they do without our know-how, right?

Let's better not test for the presence of reason in places where it is not appreciated at all - religion and reason don't like to sit beside each other. Speaking of which... How would you render "UFO at the ISS?"


The correct solution is important, because of the docking procedure.


This, yet another, ET puzzle is actually not that easy to solve.

E.T. wants to be seen and they are starting to force the hands of governments. E.T.s will win in the future.

The E.T.s got just enough of the government secrecy and decided to force a closure of three busy international airports by positioning UFOs around them, thereby creating hazardous conditions. With networks' TV cameras focused on the UFOs and with all three major airports completely shut down, the public screams for answers - what the heck is going on?

The problem is that the aliens are dumb enough not to figure out the above scenario in their effort to legitimize their presence around here. On the brighter side, they are smart enough to figure out how to travel effectively through the vastness of space. Sounds contradictory? Well, that's the way it is.

There is a possibility that the E.T.s did figure the brute-force option out, but aborted the operation upon the complaint from the National Transportation Safety Board.

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 113   General UFO & Alien Board / TRUM__ 45  on: Jul 18th, 2017, 8:26pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The UFO puzzle in the title was always easy to solve.


That's because Harry Truman became POTUS in the 45th year of the past century. But no one paused for a sec to ponder the triviality of the puzzle. Not even Harry Truman himself, who seemed to be even pleased that his name was known beyond the reaches of the solar system. However, situation changed recently, because there is other option to the solution:

TRUM(P) 45

That's because Donald Trump is the 45th POTUS.

Now we have two names that are very similar, with TRUM being the identical parts and AN with P being the different parts.

It's apparent that TRUM stands for something that both presidents have in common, and according to UFO, it's this:

Harry Truman:
And as Truman met in July 1945 with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in Potsdam, Germany, to discuss the end of World War II in Europe, he made the decision to bring the ongoing war with Japan to an apocalyptic end by dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

Donald Trump:
North Korea Threatened to Destroy New York With Nuclear Missiles Because of Trump's Twitter Fingers

Where is the UFO memo?

Right here: These NASA astronauts believe aliens have already contacted us ... Mitchell also alleged that UFOs had been seen above nuke bases and often disabled the missiles held within Cold War-era weapons silos.

TRUMan and TRUMp are very similar names and it looks that Trump would have to ponder in the future similar question to the one Truman did back in 1945: Nuke'em, or not to nuke'em?

By the simple logic of opposites, Trump will decide not to launch the nukes against North Korea. See the different parts of both names trumAN and trumP?

AN is the ending of the name of the country that Truman nuked.

Question: ___AN?
Answer: (JAP)AN

But P is the beginning of the capital city that Trump would have to attack.

Question: P_____?

Since the ending is the opposite of the beginning, Trump will make the opposite decision to the one that Truman made back in 1945.

The UFO evangelists never liked the link between A and B.

A: The 509 OG traces its history to the World War II 509th Composite Group (509 CG), which conducted the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, in August 1945.
Redesignated the 509th Bombardment Group, Very Heavy in 1946, the group was one of the original ten bombardment groups of Strategic Air Command. The unit was also the host organization at Roswell Army Airfield, New Mexico in July 1947 during the alleged Roswell UFO Incident.

B: Mitchell also alleged that UFOs had been seen above nuke bases and often disabled the missiles held within Cold War-era weapons silos.

A_B strongly implies that the incident at Roswell wasn't an accident at all; that the aliens intentionally targeted the 509th Bombardment Group with its ties to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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 114   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The creepiest UFO report on the CIA website  on: Jul 17th, 2017, 9:03pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 17th, 2017, 6:27pm, Nyx wrote:
Religion is not my " thing", but the Bible seems to hint towards UFOs in certain Bible stories.

In Genesis 19, Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt after she looked back at Sodom.

Sounds like the Russian soldiers' story.

A direct reference to the organic-to-anorganic material conversion would require 26 soldiers turned to stone, not 23.

But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
Genesis 19:26

If someone can turn biological material into a limestone in a sec, that someone can't be exactly stupid to make vague references. But a loose link between the biblical account and the alien encounter does exist via Genesis 19:26.

So let's do some "turning."

1926 ---> 1692

1692 is the only logical option to rearrange the digits of the particular verse and the chapter, because it leads not to salt pillars but stone pillars - in Russia:

Sources about the completion of the first Stone Bridge are contradictory. The most widely accepted version attributes it to Patriarch Filaret, who picked up the job in 1682; year of completion is either 1687 or 1692.

The aliens made sure that the semi-fictitious story would end up inside the CIA database to undermine the appeal to authority, which the cardinals of UFO religion have used frequently to legitimize the existence of "miracles."
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 115   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The creepiest UFO report on the CIA website  on: Jul 17th, 2017, 01:39am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 15th, 2017, 8:44pm, Nyx wrote:
In 1993, 23 Russian soldiers were turned to stone after a UFO was shot down by a Russian surface to air missile in Siberia.

Ufologists have pondered why this report is on the official CIA website.

If there is an ounce of truth in this report, alien weapons are terrifying.

The event was designed to remove an uncertainty from a part of Russian history.

Firstly, try to identify the following sequence.

2, 3, 5, ...

Since 2, 3, and 5 are first three prime numbers, the sequence could be the progression of prime numbers, which continue without a bound - there are infinitely many of them.

But in the next development, the sequence stopped at prime number 1993. Why?

Look at the difference:

Before: 2 3 5 ...

After: 23 5 ... 1993.

You see that the first two primes merged forming another prime number - 23 - and that probably caused the sequence to stop at 1993, which happens to be the year the hard-to-believe event took place.

You also see that 5 refers to the number of aliens, and 23 to the number of affected Russian soldiers.

...and five short humanoids with "large heads and large black eyes" emerged from it.

Since 2+3=5, the merging of 2 and 3 into 23 should be described in the report:

... after freeing themselves from the debris, the aliens came close together and then "merged into a single object ..."

The encounter could have easily taken place in other prime year apart from 1993. Why did it take place exactly in 1993?

That's because 1993 is the 301st prime number, and that takes you back in time to the year of 1692,

1993 - 301 = 1692,

and that's the correct year.

Sources about the completion of the first Stone Bridge are contradictory. The most widely accepted version attributes it to Patriarch Filaret, who picked up the job in 1682; year of completion is either 1687 or 1692.

Remember that the aliens turned the soldiers into stone, otherwise the message would be hard to read.

At that very instant, 23 soldiers who had watched the phenomenon turned into... stone poles.

Here is another question that the encounter brought about: Were the folks living back in Stone Age as much gullible as we are?

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 116   Recent UFO and other Paranormal News / Re: Strange Illinois Report  on: Jul 14th, 2017, 4:32pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
However, if a photo winds up in the MUFON database, then it deserves a second look, because the aliens will create certain circumstances leading to the identification of the effect, providing that the brief description contradicts the expected.

What second look?

Well, we need to test the hypothesis that the aliens messed with the smoke ring causing its premature disappearance.

Firstly, here is a seemingly impossible question: A UFO was reported in one state. A similarly looking UFO was reported in another state. Which state was it?

How could one possibly tell?

The aliens have been flying their saucers around here for decades, haven't they?

The smoke ring is a good example of how one can make an "educated guess." This particular report comes from Illinois. In which state can you expect a similar event?

The answer depends on answering a question regarding the way we get from one state to another. One way, a very particular, is to use an interstate highway. Since the MUFON report includes coordinates of the place of the Illinois sighting, you can find the spot on the map and look around. What is the nearest interstate highway to that spot?

The map says it is Interstate 24.

The aliens will use this info to come up with two solutions: the real and the imaginary.

The real: Interstate 24 leads from Illinois to only one state - Tennessee. The circumstances find exactly the place in Tennessee where you pull over.

Twisted smoke ring photographed during a pyrotechnics show at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, a four day annual event first held in 2002. The location of the festival is a 2.8 km² (700 acre) farm in Manchester, Tennessee, about 100 km (60 miles) southeast of Nashville.

The imaginary: the aliens will use the number of the interstate highway, in this case 24, to link it with a state which joined the Union as the 24th state. Since the 24th state is Missouri, we drive there.

on Jul 9th, 2017, 11:36am, Swamprat wrote:

After talking with friends, a similar object was seen in south-east Missouri on the same day, about 70 miles from our sighting location.

Now pay special attention to the common denominator.

Twisted smoke ring photographed during a pyrotechnics show at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, a four day annual event first held in 2002. The location of the festival is a 2.8 km² (700 acre) farm in Manchester, Tennessee, about 100 km (60 miles) southeast of Nashville.

After talking with friends, a similar object was seen in south-east Missouri on the same day, about 70 miles from our sighting location.

Both location descriptions include the direction south-east. Why? Why was that "object" in both cases observed S-E of a given location?

Hmm. God knows why.

Actually that's not a bad answer. God is held omniscient and maybe he can help.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

Aha! S is the first and E is the last letter of a word, isn't it?

S(.......)E ?

If we figure out what word it is, we will learn what that object seen in Illinois in reality was.

S(nak)E ?

No. Try again.

S(ubmarin)E ?

Leopooooold! Wheeere aaaare youuuu?

Oh no! Let me think...
S(mok)E !!!

That's right Mr. Randle.

What is that? You said that the answer was correct; that the object observed in Illinois was smoke.

Yes, the answer is "smoke," but Leopold is hungry.

OMG! Aaaaah! (crunch...crunch...crunch...)

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 117   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 10:48pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 11th, 2017, 03:29am, carolnistri wrote:
Travek,how do you know that?

I'm not sure what you are asking me. Can you be more specific?
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 118   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: How to Read UFO Sightings  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 7:12pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 22nd, 2017, 7:58pm, travex wrote:
On March 27, 1977, two Boeing 747 passenger jets collided on the runway at Los Rodeos Airport (now Tenerife North Airport), on the Spanish island of Tenerife, Canary Islands. The crash killed 583 people, making it the deadliest accident in aviation history.

That terrible plane crash happened in 1977, in the year that marked the 30th anniversary of an event that has played a significant part in the UFO history: the alleged alien craft crashing near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

The decimal system we use is particular to the anniversaries with numbers ending with zero - those mark a decade. In this respect, after 30 comes 40, and so the 40th anniversary of the horrific Tenerife crash falls on this year.

The question is: Would the aliens observe this anniversary the same way they did back in 1977, when they purposely let the Man's activities unattended?"

As it turned out, this time they interfered on behalf of air travel safety and didn't let us screw up all the way to the tragic end like it happened in Tenerife.

SAN FRANCISCO — In what one aviation expert called a near-miss of what could have been the largest aviation disaster ever, an Air Canada pilot on Friday narrowly avoided a tragic mistake: landing on the San Francisco International Airport taxiway instead of the runway.

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 119   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 5:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:17am, Swamprat wrote:
Sighh....... I'm sorry I ever posted that picture...... sad

It doesn't go like that. It's supposed to read
And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
Genesis 6:6

Let me see the Bible you were reading from...

Hmm. That figures. Heresy, nothing but heresy - no evidence whatsoever. You must go back to the True Word of God:

Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people.
Revelation 14:6

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Date of the Sighting 14:6:2017

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 120   Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence / Re: If It Is There, We Don't See It Yet  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 01:50am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 9th, 2017, 4:13pm, travex wrote:
If there was a universe of a comparable size and age nearby ours, it would appear as a distant galaxy.

Here is a picture of the most distant galaxy ever observed.

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And here is the link to the related article:
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 121   Recent UFO and other Paranormal News / Re: Strange Illinois Report  on: Jul 10th, 2017, 6:07pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jul 10th, 2017, 12:28pm, Swamprat wrote:
The consensus seems to be that these types of phenomenon are the result of fireworks. Could be. This particular sighting was on July 1st, but there WERE a lot of early fireworks because of the long weekend.

That's a rational speculation backed by a photo of a similar effect for which the cause has been explained and factually confirmed:

However, if a photo winds up in the MUFON database, then it deserves a second look, because the aliens will create certain circumstances leading to the identification of the effect, providing that the brief description contradicts the expected.

Summary: Object hovering over woods then disappeared with no trace.

The smoke caused by a firework dissipates; it doesn't just disappear. The former way into the absence would clearly indicate to the viewer that the peculiar shape in the sky is nothing but smoke and no report to MUFON would be made.

The date of the sighting is an example of things that disappear, but can be found later hiding.

The date of the sighting was 1. July, or 1 7.

Now you see it: 1 7
Now you don't:

As you ponder the disappearance, you come across present year.


Why is it so that the 17 part appears thicker?

Aah, you shall fool me not... That missing 1 and 7 landed on top of 17, thinking that no one would notice. A simple experiment supports the explanation.

Before: 2017
After: 2017 1 7

Since 2017 1 7 means 2017, 1. July, this day is a unique day of 2017 based on the above circumstance.

But that means not every 4th of July is the same. Every century, there is only one instance where 4 and 7 can hide into the last two digits of the year. The last time it happened was in 1947.

Before: 1947
After: 1947 4 7

Back in 1947, the aliens loaded a flying saucer with fireworks to join in and observe the special, once-in-a century 4th of July. But the fireworks accidentally exploded near Roswell, New Mexico and the explosion tore the flying saucer into pieces, which were recovered by the personnel of the 509th Operations Group. 509? That's mighty suspicious - the link between WHEN and WHO - isn't it?

Since the sighting in Illinois took place on 2017 1 7, one should take a second look at it...

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 122   Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence / If It Is There, We Don't See It Yet  on: Jul 9th, 2017, 4:13pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
What we don't see?

Another universe.

If there was a universe of a comparable size and age nearby ours, it would appear as a distant galaxy. The problem is that we haven't observed each and every galaxy that belongs to our universe - the number of galaxies is a mere estimation.

The estimate of how many galaxies there are in the universe is done by counting how many galaxies we can see in a small area of the sky. This number is then used to guess how many galaxies there are in the entire sky.

The detection of light whose source is another universe could be initially puzzling to the astronomers who would assume a galaxy.

Unfortunately, the birth of a universe doesn't follow the birth of a supernova - the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't in reverse - so the excitement of seeing another universe just forming wouldn't materialize. But evidence of another universe would be still exciting to the astronomers.

Detection of other universes before they form is a life-saver, because universes expire one way or the other and you need to find another universe to "recharge batteries." So the most advanced ET intelligent life is not planetary based - it travels through space from one universe to another, which is unimaginable to us, while conducting scientific experiments by creating various planetary life forms, evolving them to certain stages, in case of intelligent animals accelerating their cultural and social development and so on.

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 123   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Joshua Tree UFOs came to me says singer Kesha  on: Jul 9th, 2017, 3:04pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 9th, 2017, 1:45pm, Nyx wrote:
Kesha claims her newest album was inspired by UFOs she saw in Joshua Tree.

In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one singer who repents.
Luke 15:10

huh shocked

In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.
Luke 15:10


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 124   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 7th, 2017, 5:39pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 6th, 2017, 7:19pm, MOKSHA wrote:
I don't know what pics are real or not, but I find this video from
very interesting.


You should have started a new thread with your post, because this year marks the 50th anniversary of that major nuclear missiles hacking by UFOs in Montana, which the video covers. The aliens observed the anniversary, but no one realized it. (Maybe some partly UFO literate folks within MoD did.)

The video starts with film reels showing the aftermath of Hiroshima bombing. That event is linked to UFOs via the incident near Roswell in 1947, because the debris of the alleged crashed flying saucer was recovered by members of the 509 Operations Group involved in nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The 509th Composite Group (509 CG) was a unit of the United States Army Air Forces created during World War II and tasked with the operational deployment of nuclear weapons. It conducted the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, in August 1945.

The 509th Composite Group returned from its wartime base on Tinian and relocated to Roswell on 6 November 1945, initially being assigned to Second Air Force under Continental Air Forces.

Redesignated the 509th Bombardment Group, Very Heavy in 1946, the group was one of the original ten bombardment groups of Strategic Air Command. The unit was also the host organization at Roswell Army Airfield, New Mexico in July 1947 during the alleged Roswell UFO Incident.

The video narrative doesn't even touch up on the important 1947 link between UFOs and the nukes, because in the Gospel according to Randle, Roswell crash was an accident and not a deliberate act whereby the aliens disabled a weather balloon, so it would fall near Roswell Army Airfield in order to form the link between nukes and the UFOs. But a weather balloon poorly implies a flying saucer, and so the aliens did some mind hacking...

Why didn't the aliens simply deliberately crash one of the flying saucers?

Well, that wasn't possible, because they don't have it. A UFO sighting and/or detection is a result of a super-advanced imaging technology combined with dummy radar targeting and so on.

Now, back to the Montana nuclear silos incident 50th anniversary...

The UFO interference took place in the 67th year of the last century. Now imagine this symbolic interference; that the number 67 suddenly splits:

(67) => (6 <---> 7)

What the heck happened?

Probably the same thing that happened to comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 after it split under the heavy gravitational influence of Jupiter. If it so in the case of the 67 splitting, then there must be some objects on the left side of 6 and the right side of 7 that pulled 67 apart.

a) 67
b) ? <--- 6...7 ---> ?

What that can be...?


Aha. You're right. 6 and 7 are natural numbers organized in the natural order, so if 5 immediately precedes 6, and 8 follows right after 7, the mystery objects that exerted a force strong enough to break 67 apart must be numbers 5 and 8.

a) 67
b) 6...7
b) 5 <--- 6...7 ---> 8

But do both 5 and 8 have enough energy to break 67 apart? After all, 58 is less than 67.

We can find out...

If 67 was initially a year (1967), then after the split, 6 and 7 should mean the day and month - or vice versa.
So let's test the first option that 6 and 7 means the day and month - 6. July - and let's go to Montana to see if 5 and 8 have enough energy:

Rare 5.8 earthquake strikes western Montana, the area's strongest temblor in nearly 60 years

5.8 on the Richter scale? That's enough energy all right.

"Coincidences" never cease, do they?

You may as well start a new thread with that video, because the aliens signal a problem ahead. A BIG problem...

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 125   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 6th, 2017, 5:40pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 6th, 2017, 3:06pm, INT21 wrote:
...They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy. ...

Now I know you are just pulling our legs.


No, I'm not. You are wrong thinking those languages are spoken languages that different races of aliens use. Those are names of languages we use to program computers. Once again, here is the Wikipedia article that deals with numbers base 36:

And here is a short excerpt from the article - a Visual Basic function that converts stuff into numbers in base 36:

Public Function ToBase36String(i as UInteger) As String
Const rainbow = "0123456789ABCDEFGHIJLKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
i = Math.Abs(i)
Dim sb = New StringBuilder()
sb.Insert(0, rainbow(i Mod 36))
i /= 36
Loop While i <> 0
Return sb.ToString()
End Function

There is a constant in the second line named "rainbow" made of 36 characters: digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.

A conversion into higher order numeric bases saves computing space. For example, if you convert 8-digit number 31343833 (base 10) into a number in base 36, you get number INT21 (base 36) with only 5 digits.

A new development...!!!

The metal bar wound up in the hands of MoD. It turned out that the woman who had found the strange metal bar decided to keep it as an extraterrestrial trophy of some sort. She left it for a moment on a table in her living room and as the sun rays hit the bar, that shiny thing attracted attention of her parrot Birdie. The parrot noticed the number 24598808916 punched into that metal bar and also noticed that the number includes one digit zero. Because zero means nothing, Birdie made an empty space (nothing) in that number:

245988 8916.

Now the parrot sees two numbers: 245988 and 8916. Does that make any sense?

Birdie found out that it does:

245988 =>2+4+5+9+8+8 = 36
8916 => 8+9+1+6 = 24

Because Birdie once belonged to a retired metallurgist, it figured that 24 means 24-carat gold and 36 means Alloy 36. It became clear to Birdie that the encoding - the number 24598808916 - couldn't originate inside the human head and so the parrot squeezed out of his cage, flew out of the open window heading for MoD to report an extraterrestrial object.

When the MoD experts converted the number 24598808916 into a base 36 number that reads BATHUFO (base 36), it was clear to them that Birdie was right. So they gave Birdie 12 (base 10) peanuts and locked the extraterrestrial metal bar inside a huge safety box marked "Miscellaneous ET Junk."

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 126   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 6th, 2017, 04:22am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 5th, 2017, 4:34pm, INT21 wrote:

You do realise that all that number stuff is baloney, don't you ?

All numbers can be reduced to a number between 1 and 9.

Did I ever say that all numbers CANNOT be reduced to a number between 1 and 9?

I don't know of anyone who uses a Base 36 system.

Did you check on those guys from Zeta Reticuli? They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy.

Base 16 is obvious.

Really? Under which circumstance?

As for your Gold bar reference.

Alloy 36 (trade name Invar 36) is a 36% nickel alloy.

Yes. I know.

And the number on the bar is probably a serial number.

Can you find on the Internet a single instance where a metal bar is mentioned - a bar made of near pure gold on one side and Alloy 36 on the other? You are making a classic debunker's mistake: you mention a property (serial number in this case) of something that hardly exists.

I suspect the bar is one of the type that can be bought as an investment as well as ornamental. The backing would be to add support to a soft metal (Gold).

Another mistake that debunkers make: You just ignored the part where a metallurgy expert failed to figure out how those two different metals were joined together. Apart from that, investment gold bars are always marked with pertinent info.

if the finder had any decency they would take it to the police as some one is probably looking for it.


I think the aliens tossed the bar out of the UFO window on purpose to stress the issue of conversion. If you can convert from

24598808916 (base 10) to BATHUFO (base 36)

then you are only a step away from converting from

Islam (base Muhammad) to UFO (base Randle)
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 127   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 5th, 2017, 3:14pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The bit about the possibility of an alien race using octal is, however, always a possibility.

We use hex when it suites us, and we certainly don't have 16 fingers and thumbs.

If you mention number base conversions, you maybe interested in the Bath UFO follow up.

The next morning after the UFO was spotted, a woman was walking her dog in the park when she saw something shiny in the grass. She used to work in a jewelry shop, and so she was keen on picking that up. Yes, indeed. It was what she though it might be: a thin gold bar. But the other side was made of some different metal. She looked around, put that thing into her bag and went home.

The next day she stopped at the jewelry store she used to work and showed that strange bar to her former boss. The gold part was nearly pure gold, but he couldn't tell right away what the other metal was. What the owner of the store found really strange was the way both pieces of metals stuck to each other. They couldn't be soldered together, as the follow-up metallurgic analysis showed. The specialist who did the analysis out of curiosity didn't have the slightest idea what process could make both metals stick together like that.

He identified the other metal as a nickel-iron alloy called Alloy 36.

On this side of the metal bar was a number, which seemed to be just punched in - as opposed to the mysterious way both metals were conjoined. It was an eleven-digit number 24598808916.

So you have something "not of this earth," meaning the expert couldn't tell how both metals could be joined together like that. Then you have a photo of an alleged UFO hovering above the town the night before. Can the thin metal bar be linked to the alleged UFO?

Tentatively it can. Put aside the case where the bar accidentally fell off the alien craft and look at the possibility that the bar was tossed out on purpose. From where? Well, from one of the windows.

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See, there seems to be a reference in that mysterious bar to the UFO. If you look again at the punched-in number 24598808916, you see that the most frequent digit is 8. And the pic shows that there are 8 visible windows!

This could be a coincidence, but it doesn't have to. However, a skeptic would point out that the alternative 88888888 would link itself with the number of windows in much more meaningful way: that alternative number would have 8 digits - all of them 8's.

Well, that's true - really.

Actually the skeptic gave you a clue without even realizing it, and the clue lies in other options to consider. In this case, why is it so that the number 24598808916 was punched into that iron-nickel alloy and not into the gold part?

The reason is that the name of the alloy, which is called Alloy36, tells you what to do with that long number 24598808916. Well, you guessed it right. The name "Alloy36" tells you to convert the number into another number base; that is, base 36. (Numbers in base 36 are made of digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.) If you do the conversion, then you find out where the mysterious metal bar really came from.

24598808916(base 10) = BATHUFO(base 36)

It came from that Bath UFO.

How about designing a UFO sighting which involves a plane where the pilot is completely out of his wits watching a couple of UFO's circling his Cessna? Boy! Is he busy sharing his experience with a nearby traffic control personnel...

Well, that takes much, much more than designing a case of a strange metal bar falling off a UFO. Besides, the Gospel according to Randle doesn't tell us to do anything beyond believing in UFOs.

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 128   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 1982 U.S. plane call "May Day" as UF  on: Jul 4th, 2017, 5:16pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 1st, 2017, 03:25am, Bocker wrote:
* The object is said to have featured up to 20 `flashing lights`. Once again, we have to ask what on earth would UFOs need with flashing lights? Our own aircraft only use flashing lights to draw attention to themselves - for air travel safety.

Your "what on earth question" is based on an assumption of little or no difference between the UFOs traffic and our aircraft traffic - we really don't see a case where our plane is equipped with 20 lights to be seen when flashing.

But allow a little doubt into your comparison: If the sighting of UFOs is comparable to the sighting of our craft, why there is so much interest in what MoD stashes away? Isn't it because UFOs are those "unlike any other" objects in the sky that can jump start human curiosity?

Here is what lights are alternatively used for:

Yes. You can send a message. Unlike the Morse code, it is the number of flashing lights that a part of the message is composed of. It is based on this comparison featuring opposites:

Light On is to Together as Light Off is to Apart

To confirm the basic data of a genuine sighting starting with the year, the above comparison is used thusly:

Light On is to 1982 as Light Off is to 1 9 8 2

In the case of Light Off, you see 1 and 9 and 8 and 2. Since "and" means "+" (one and one is two <=> 1 + 1 = 2), the spaces between the digits get filled accordingly:

1 9 8 2 => 1+9+8+2

Then the UFO flight director completes the 1+9+8+2 message

1+9+8+2 = 20

and tells the mechanics to install 20 lights on the alien craft.

So, you see that hoaxing a UFO sighting isn't that easy... Actually it would have been, if we had not evolved from banana-gobbling monkeys.

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 129   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 3rd, 2017, 7:56pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 09:55am, Swamprat wrote:
That picture has to be fake. Everyone of them that I met had done a much better job of trimming their nails..... You don't want to be inspected by one with THOSE nails!

The alien abductions are handled only by males, and ET males keep their nails well-clipped. That's why you noticed the nails of that hand were too long. That crashed UFO pilot whose hand got severed during the accident was a female. If it comes to the topic of "aliens among us," then the first look belongs to the tips of fingers.
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 130   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 2:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 1:07pm, INT21 wrote:

Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system...

It should be pretty obvious from the context of the thread why I asked.


It's not that obvious to me even though you did suggest that the ET's-to-humans communication may not go well at all, because the aliens have one thumb and three fingers, so both their hands have 4+4 digits, and that naturally points toward a numerical system base 8. And yes, the circumstances of the Bath UFO clearly point toward number 8 as a significant digit. But the identity 4 = 4 (the number of the left hand digits = the number of the right hand digits) are congruent to the geometry of our symbol 8, which is symmetrical along the vertical axis (the left part of 8 = the right part of 8). That's kind of coincidental...

As I mentioned it earlier, if the aliens are not capable of adjusting to our decimal system, then they are way too dumb to communicate with, which may be the case judging from the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting in 1947.

It took the aliens 5 long years (!) to figure out the difference between the state of Washington and Washington DC.,_D.C._UFO_incident

5 years? Was it really 5 years? Let's see...

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 131   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 1st, 2017, 11:57pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 30th, 2017, 5:21pm, INT21 wrote:

..What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?..

That's why we can't communicate. They only have three fingers and one thumb.

That alien race with one thumb and three fingers have an interesting evolution history: they have evolved from Gallus gallus galacticus, or from the galactic chicken. This race wasn't known to Man until once upon a time a UFO crashed. The government retrieval commando found no traces of the ET pilots apart from one severed hand. The secret photo of the hand became available after an intervention from someone in the US Congress...

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These three-fingers & one thumb aliens actually represent someone here on Earth. Since fingers and a thumb are connected to form a part of one hand, the ID code is either 13 or 31.

Hand A: 1 thumb and 3 fingers ----> 13
Hand B: 3 fingers and 1 thumb ----> 31

All you need to do is to decode 13 or 31 to identify the earthlings who look like humans, but are actually an alien race.

This is quite difficult search. But those folks who wear an alien implant in their heads - folks like Swamprat - can help.

Although the MUFON Inner Circle is announced on MUFON’s website, and there seems to be no attempt to keep the elite organization hidden, very few of the MUFON members I queried had any idea that it existed. It currently is made up of thirteen members, which seems to be more coincidence than design, but that number does seem to have mysterious connotations for some. I don’t believe it significant, only a little bizarre.

Here we go... Actually both codes 13 and 31 apply. That's because the MUFON Inner Circle is made of 13 members and on the bottom of MUFON website is a California address (3822 CAMPUS DRIVE SUITE 201 NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660).

Since California is the 31st State of the Union, it all comes nicely together. Three fingers & one thumb or the other way around.

It's kind of sad to see that Kevin Randle remains after all those long years a UFO illiterate person.

Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system.

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 132   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 1st, 2017, 4:14pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 30th, 2017, 5:07pm, GhostofEd wrote:
The case number from the MUFON site is 84387 not 84388.

That's a strangely worded confirmation of what I already said in my post: Actually the odds in the face of the implication are way too low, with the implication being that the aliens can hack our mind and force a mistake in the catalog number, because you mentioned #84387 and not #84388, which is a "smart number" but very likely incorrect.

I obviously meant the case when the blogger made the mistake and instead of #84387, he wrote number #84388, which is wrong, but smart. That smart number doesn't appear smart, unless a person looks at the pic of the UFO...

The MUFON case number 84387 is not smart, just intelligent. Here is why: It is composed of digits that are identical and of those that are different.

identical: 8 8
different: 4 3 7

Now, what is one of the main attributes of intelligence?


It is the ability to identify identical items and mark them as such:


(Remember those intersected right angle corners of the windows - L and L?)

And that's why the MUFON case number 84387 is intelligent:

identical: 8 8 -------> 8 = 8
different: 4 3 7 -------> 4 + 3 = 7

Yes, but the UFOs behave so irrationally that they can't be possibly guided by an intelligent mind!

Let's see if UFO is intelligent...

question: U F O
answer: U = F + O (21 = 6 + 15)

Yes, indeed - "UFO" is an "intelligent" acronym, because the letters form an identity.

And now, "To His image, to His likeness..."

UFO <----> MAN ?

Would UFO attempt to communicate with someone who is not intelligent?

Hardly so. That means that MAN is intelligent. But where is the proof?

Right here: M A N ----> M + A = N (13 + 1 = 14)

Can MAN communicate with UFO?

question: M A N -----to-----> U F O
answer: M A N -----to ----> U F O

The answer is NO. It's a similar situation where the pope gets inspired by God, but he can't tell Him what to do. In the case of UFO, there is a special case when it is possible but it's also very limited.

What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?

Maybe they don't. But do you think that they couldn't be able to adapt to our mostly used numerical system? If they couldn't, what do you think would be the obstacle? A very low IQ?
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 133   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 30th, 2017, 4:37pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 28th, 2017, 9:20pm, GhostofEd wrote:
There is a suspicious vertical line at the top of it.

You bet that the hypothetical hoaxer was aware of that "suspicious vertical line" as well. The hoaxers examine their handiwork very carefully before sending their stuff to MUFON. But in this case he wouldn't fix the problem. Why?

See, the intersection points made of the window corners are not happening in the pic you've posted. That means there must be other clue to run ortho lines which intersect at the right angle in the middle of Window [2, 2], and the clue happens to be that "suspicious vertical line."

Here is a destination of the picture which enables to establish the odds of the features being a coincidence or not:

I was getting ready for bed and turning all the lights off around the flat when I looked out of my back window to discover this object hovering in the sky above the city. I quickly grabbed my phone and got a pretty decent shot before rushing to my partner and tell them what I witnessed. When we returned to look out the window, the object was gone. mufon cms #84388 (Possible Hoax)

If I were a member of an ET civilization over eight hundred million years "ahead of us," as the aliens claim, I would do the same thing: I would link the image of the alien craft with MUFON catalog case number, which, according to the quote, is 84388.

Now note that the mode (the most frequent digit) of those five digits that the number is made of is 8 - it appears three times. This count is actually included in the number right in the middle: 84[3]88. (Remember how the concept of the middle was highlighted in your version of the photo?)

But what about the next digit to the left? That 4 disputes the count; it basically "claims" that there are four 8's!

Well, we see only three 8's and that's because we don't have those big eyes like the aliens. They would look at the picture of that Bath UFO to see that there are 8 windows visible. And that's the fourth 8.

Now it's not difficult to compute the probability of the 84388 digit arrangement being just a coincidence - it is 5000 to 1. Anyone ready to bet against those odds?

Actually the odds in the face of the implication are way too low, with the implication being that the aliens can hack our mind and force a mistake in the catalog number, because you mentioned #84387 and not #84388, which is a "smart number" but very likely incorrect.

The bottom line is that we accept or reject ideas according to whether we like them or not. So the aliens can support their claims with perhaps astronomical odds and basically waste their time, or they can keep flying around for another seventy years and repeat the same thing all over again, but to no avail, because we, the speaking mammals, have created the universe to our image, to our likeness and that's it.

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 134   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jun 30th, 2017, 03:45am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:04pm, Nyx wrote:
It is hard to explain when the children were asked to draw what they saw, all the pictures were almost the same.

I think something strange happened that day.

It wasn't really that strange: the kids were drawing the pics the same way they were repeating what the aliens "told" them. No matter how stupidly the aliens behaved or how bizzare their description, it has been accepted as such, actually it was welcome, as it spiced all the necessary excitement.
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 135   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 8:25pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 5:06pm, Nyx wrote:
In 1994 sixty children playing outside their school in Zimbabwe watched an UFO land and beings trying to inter-react with them on their playground.

That case was a masterpiece in deception, because the only entryway to grasp the meaning of the event consisted of an info that lead to a sound rejection of it. That's why the story, as it is retold, is mostly void of that crucial info; that is, the children couldn't agree on the way the message from the impossible creatures were conveyed to them - they just somewhat "knew." They said that they were "told" to take better care of our planet.

There is no way that a rational person would accept an existence of an advanced ET civilization with some of its members deranged to the point of approaching 5 - 12 year-old schoolkids somewhere in Africa and counsel them about ecological issues. But this monument of idiocy served as a lighthouse - all what John Mack had to do was to come up with a rational alternative. If he did, he would have ran into a green color, which also means 'go ahead' and maybe he would be able to break through.

Exactly 3664 days had passed since the date of the Ruwa incident and John Mack was dead - killed by a driver who didn't see him crossing the street. 3664 days? Yes, there are 366 days from January 1 to December 31 every 4th year. These are called leap years. That's a strange coincidence considering that 2004 - the year John Mack got killed while crossing the street - was a leap year.
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 136   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 4:17pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:17am, Swamprat wrote:
Sighh....... I'm sorry I ever posted that picture...... sad

Swamprat, if you adjusted the picture (did you?) then there is hard evidence that you wear an alien neural implant that adjusts your actions. That's good, because it prevents you to screw up. But you can't rely on it the way that you get reckless, thinking that the aliens fix it for you.
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 137   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 3:52pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 09:08am, GhostofEd wrote:
The pictures prior posted here are not the originals from the MUFON report. If one goes to the MUFON site @ and search on case # 84387 you can download the original image which contains the EXIF data. If that has been manipulated I can't tell. However, if the "official" picture is from MUFON, the cross hairs give a different outcome. (This is uncropped scaled because the original resolution is too large for the forum page width.)

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My opinion is this is a hoaxed picture showing a reflection of a lighted object in a dark room behind a window. One characteristic that stands out (when viewing the high res original) is that the sharpness and focus of the UFO is more representative of a close object (reflection?) and not of a distance object. I suppose it could also be a suspended model in front of the camera i.e., not a reflection. Regardless the too sharp observation should still apply.

Another thing that strikes me is that the UFO color is similar to the sky. This suggests to me a translucent object perhaps lit with white light. I think this is consistent with how a reflection would look.

If these possible issues (sharpness & translucency) are incorrect I'd like to know why.

That's it! This version looks like the usual original shots from the hoaxers under "the influence." Even if you personally draw the cross-hair diagonals, you may not realize the unique points of intersection, the first being the street light, which is intersected in the MIDDLE by the left diagonal.

Follow the diagonals... You see that the alleged UFO cannot descend any further because it happens to be wedged in between the lines. Just run a computer model with the two objects under similar circumstances and measure the success/failure ratio...

Once the left diagonal crosses the street light "circle" in the MIDDLE, you are supposed to think in terms of "MIDDLE" and look around with respect to the features of UFO. You see a building with three rows of windows, so you consider the MIDDLE floor, especially when the street light is in the horizontal agreement with it. You count the windows, then count the visible windows of the UFO image. The count agrees! 8=8. You shouldn't fail to see that the right diagonal divides the visible windows in the MIDDLE floor in the MIDDLE, so the count is actually 4+4 windows.

Now it all depends on the NIQ of the viewer, where NIQ means the Natural Ignorance Quotient, how far anyone gets and if he or she can recover the link between the date of reporting and the number of windows.

When the crop circles started to appear in southern England, the folks who attended the phenomenon noticed that a disproportionate number of the circles positioned themselves the way that the tramline appeared right in the MIDDLE of the circle. They concluded that there must be something intelligent behind the new and unexpected phenomenon - something capable of seeing the field features, such as the tramlines. Unfortunately, the research disintegrated following the UFO research "methodology," which basically limits itself to an activity of tossing pictures into two bins marked REAL/ NOT REAL. They have two bins in the Vatican as well, except they are marked MIRACLES/NOT MIRACLES...

This is not to say that no effort should be made to tell things apart, but that shouldn't be the terminal bus stop. The big problem is that the aliens want it that way, and so we will continue to commit crimes against common sense whenever the aliens feel like it. They seem to like the idea that we put them into a position of galactic stupidos who keep flying around the earth for no apparent reason at all. Just don't disturb the natural habitat of Homo sapiens, right?

The experts on intelligent extraterrestrial life, those PhD's at SETI, say there are no aliens around. It means that through the appeal to the authority all pics of UFO's are either hoaxes or they can be rationally explained, which makes the process of telling things apart much faster.

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 138   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 03:48am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 28th, 2017, 9:20pm, GhostofEd wrote:
A few comments:

The picture looks to be a crop and not the complete original image. Because of this trying to draw any conclusions about the number of windows is speculative. It is quite possible there are windows to the right that were cropped out. This brings into question the 6 & 14.

The picture doesn't look to be cropped to me. You apparently don't understand the alien intervention: what matters is what appears in the MUFON web pages - those are the "official" pics to work with.

The upper set of windows (6) is being grouped into the set below (8) to get the 14. It could just as well be grouped into the set of windows below (7-8?) to come up with 21 or 22. Or they could be separated from the top set to get 15 or 16. This would then give a date of 6/21, 6/22, 6/15 or 6/16.

I had to exclude for brevity some issues that need to be considered. For example the 3x2 matrix that I added to one of the pics.


resolves in a 4x3 matrix


with the meaning of the two top rows of windows. That excludes the first floor windows from the count. The third column O=O alignment in the 2x3 matrix is a reference to the word that is particular and the word is "flOOr."

I see 8 windows on the UFO(?). Not sure what their significance is to your ideas.

I never mentioned the number of windows visible in the UFO. The windows are initially in a "descriptive mode" - they are just windows and their inclusion is meant to create a windows-windows link with terrestrial objects. Surely later, when one goes into details and asks the question what is the logical link between 6 and 14, (between the month and the day), such link can be found on a chalkboard somewhere at junior high:

6 + x = 14

You look out of the classroom windows, see a UFO with 8 windows and so you can confidently solve the equation:
x = 8.

I suspect the UFO is positioned somewhat top center of the image is because of aesthetics during cropping - natural thing to do.

You again mention cropping without any hint that the process actually took place. MUFON folks would be offended if you suggested that they crop UFO pics according to "aesthetics." No, MUFON's pic database is not considered by the staff an art gallery and it will not adjust pictures accordingly.

The center lines crossing over window edges could be coincidence - because there are coincidences in life. I do not find it unusual that building elements are geometrically related to others because that is how things are designed.

Yes, coincidences sometimes do occur, but you completely excluded from your judgement the time in minutes - those 45 minutes past 10 p.m. where 4 refers to the number of intersected windows and 5 to the points of intersection. How do you think the time of a UFO appearance is designed? It cannot be random, otherwise UFO sightings wouldn't make much sense - it would defy their purpose. There is a mind behind the UFO sighting design, which is vastly superior to ours, as the overall circumstances clearly point to.

My initial impressions of this UFO(?) is that it could be a reflection of a light fixture on a window. There is a suspicious vertical line at the top of it. No other reports of what would seem to be a quite obvious and unusual object over a populated area?

The "suspicious vertical line" could be caused by a rooftop reflector or some other light source. I don't believe that the mental capacity of the person who took the picture is so low that he wouldn't recognize his own ceiling light? That person said that the UFO was gone after he took the pic. So he turns off the light, looks out and the UFO is gone, right? If he was that dumb, he wouldn't be able to operate his own camera. Btw, UFOs are not solid objects, justs pecial images which can be seen only from a specific direction if the situation calls for it

But in the case where the pic is a deliberate hoax really involving an overhead light fixture, the idea to make the hoax didn't originate in the hoaxer's head as the decades long evidence with similar pics confirms. These hoaxes feature spacial arrangements that the hoaxers are not aware of and when those are mathematically analyzed, they create a situation where the probability of no coincidence is way too high. But the math behind it is not easy at all.

Without the original unaltered image it is all speculation and some of it wild. This kind of MUFON report and lack of details often is counterproductive.

Now you again believe that there is an unaltered image somewhere. What makes you believe that it is so?

Here is a something that wasn't meant to be a UFO hoax.

The features can't be compiled no matter what.

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 139   General UFO & Alien Board / Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 28th, 2017, 6:42pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The title implies that there are also pictures which show objects that can be explained as rare natural phenomena or some artifacts and that there are also deliberate hoaxes. And that all implies other opposites, particularly EASY and DIFFICULT. Here is a nice photo

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that actually implies neither until the moment when someone asks this question: When was the photo taken?

Well, that's EASY. The photo was taken at night.

But if the question refers to the particular month and day things transfer right away to the DIFFICULT category. Or does anyone think it is easy? Well we don't see any snow, but the question didn't mention a season.

Even if you exclude the winter months, the chances that you get the month and day right are way too high.

But you don't need to take a completely random choice. Here is an example: How many windows do you see in the top floor?

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I see 6 windows.

And how many windows do you see now?

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With that addition there are 14 windows. Getting the idea? The number of windows - those two counts - can be easily converted into the month and day. Since there are no 14 months in the year - just 12 - there can be no mistake. So the date when the picture was taken was 6/14, or June 14.

Aaah, those ET's - always on standby ready to assist mankind in answering difficult questions...

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The whole picture looks like this

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and also the additional info comes from Swamprat's post here:

There is a note at the end of the post - note made by MUFON - saying that the photo hasn't been examined by an expert and so it's status REAL/HOAX is not known yet.

Maybe we can add our two cents to the process of telling things apart...

Note that there is something a bit unusual about the photo. People usually focus on the object of interest, but in this case the UFO seems to be well above the center of the picture. You would be surprised, but there is actually reason for that. Take a look:

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You can see that the "make sure" diagonal cross-hairs of symmetry intersect the corners of four windows. (A rectangle has four sides.) You can also define those four windows as windows B, A, T, H - in case there is an additional question that asks for the name of the place that the photo was taken. This is an incredible coincidence! But is it? If it's not, then there has to be a purpose to it. As you see, the window corners make a 90 degree angle, and that's what the aliens want you to consider. In other words, they point toward an intersection of two lines that form a 90 degree (right) angle. Just mark two most luminous parts of the pic and you get the "secret" right angle.

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Now you see that the intersection occurs in the middle of Window [2, 2] (2nd window from top/left). Remember that the photo was taken on 6-14-2017 at 22:45. If you scroll up to the previous pic, you see 4 windows that have their corners intersected, but there are 5 points of intersections (those little red squares) and that count makes the minutes - 22:45

How can the aliens achieve such an incredible precision?

Well, the neural implants that they stick to the brain of Homo sapiens works very well. The aliens basically take over the implanted person, which responds by doing exactly what is needed.

But that means the photo could be easily photoshopped as well!

Yes. The command would come saying "Let's make a nice hoax of a UFO." The recipient thinks it is his own idea and complies. This guy
could tell you more about it. (Yep, yep. Always on standby to assist mankind in answering difficult questions...)

Here is something MUFON will probably check on our own terms.

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An imaging expert would compare the amount of light dispersion. If the UFO image was photoshopped in, there would be some dispersion inconsistency.

Here is an example of what a white bright light produces.

The conclusion may not be encouraging for some UFO theologians: Some proven UFO hoaxes can be actually real events.

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 140   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 28th, 2017, 12:19am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 27th, 2017, 2:06pm, INT21 wrote:
So how do you differentiate between a genuine and a non genuine ufo effect ?

In essence there will be a coordination between parameters like WHEN, WHERE, WHAT and so on. Some folks can come up with elaborate UFO hoaxes, but would treat that event as a chance encounter and so their story would fall apart by failing to meet the criteria for a genuine event.

You do know what JAL 1628 refers to ?

I know only a part of that very complex JAL 1628 statement. The info conveyed by the aliens usually runs contrary to what we think is true, and so each significant UFO sighting is supported by other significant sightings and it all goes back to Kenneth Arnold sighting and the Roswell case, with both cases believed to be events where a chance ran supreme. But they were both well-prepared manifestations.

When you ask MUFON why is so that the sphere is the most frequent object reported, they would likely shrug. If you mention that balloons are of a spherical shape and that the ET's want the earthlings know what truly happened back in 1947 in Roswell, MUFON folks get probably defensive pointing toward some "witnesses." But we are also interested in what the ET's had to say to it, aren't we?

The JAL 1628 sighting belongs to the Arnold class of sightings - it has a very high degree of certainty that it all went down the way the pilots described it. That means it was assumable that the event was genuine. But some thirty years later, no one have the slightest idea WHY it happened - mainly because there are other, rather foolish, priorities.

Maybe I'll do the basics on JAL 1628 in a separate thread.

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 141   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 27th, 2017, 01:40am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The number of sightings in any country/state depends upon many factors. Even a densely populated state may have adverse weather conditions that prevent people seeing things while living out in a sparsely populated area like a desert may have excellent viewing conditions.

I have been hoping to see a decent meteor shower for the last five years but every time the cloud cover precludes it.

Those conditions that prevent seeing something in the sky that can't be readily associated with the usual don't apply to the genuine UFO effects. If a particular person is supposed to see it, then the sighting takes place even if the witness didn't want it. It has been thought that such an encounter is a matter of chance, but it is not so.

There is a hint that a cloud cover may not play any role in the observation of UFOs:

You can select from this map Arizona and Washington with both states differing significantly in the number of cloudy days. The data from February 2017 to May 2017 show that for that time period there were 50 reports coming from Arizona and 41 from Washington. When you include the weather factor together with a difference in population, the expected number of reports from Arizona should be 60, not 50. This is of course an insufficient sample to generalize, but MUFON should have analyzed the reports received to answer the principle questions concerning the UFO traffic. Since 1947, it appears that the movement of UFOs is absolutely purposeless and that's something hard to believe - unless the peculiar firework is a manifestation of God whose mind is said to work "mysterious ways."

I have a feeling that MUFON is just happy when the number of UFO reports grows.

How strong is the correlation between the population of individual states and the number of filed reports?

The online calculator tells me that The value of R is 0.8828. This is a strong positive correlation, which means that high X variable scores go with high Y variable scores (and vice versa).

It looks like the aliens took their flight plan from the way the electoral college works in USA.

There is a trick in the statistic for May. Maybe I mention it some other time. And no, the PhD's at SETI will never find them aliens.

P.s. What do you think of the JAL 1628 case ?

I don't know, but the message is JAL 1628 and the circumstances of the encounter decode it.
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 142   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 26th, 2017, 10:41pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:15pm, Swamprat wrote:
"Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared."

Travex, what in the world are you talking about? I haven't "replaced the May 2017 report" with ANYTHING! The May report is still there, along with the others.

That's truly weird. I couldn't find the May report no matter what and now it's easy to see - it's on the 1st page following a couple of other posts. huh
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 143   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 26th, 2017, 2:00pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 25th, 2017, 3:59pm, INT21 wrote:
It is quite possible that a large number of reported sightings were filtered out because they were in fact misidentified natural or man made objects.

There is no point in filling up your data base with things that, although unknown to some observers, were readily identified by others.

According to MUFON the data released is just a number of reports received from different locations.

The MUTUAL UFO Network (MUFON) received a total of 624 UFO reports for the month of May where 470 originated in the U.S., according to statistics released June 1, 2017.

The U.S. was the top reporting country at 470; with United Kingdom at 38 and Canada at 35.

The three leading report states in May were California, 53 reports; Texas, 45; and Florida, 32. (which were the same top three for the previous month.) Other states with 10 or more reports include: Arizona, 22; Michigan, 18; Missouri, 17; Colorado and New York, 16; Illinois and Washington, 15; Oregon, 14; Ohio, 13; Alabama, Tennessee and Maine, 11; and Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Virginia, 10.

The info is just ordered set of data otherwise unprocessed. Since the most populous states report the highest number of sightings, it seems that there is a correlation. Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared. So there is no way to run the Pearson correlation coefficient test across all fifty states just to see how tight the correlation is. I'll do it with just those 13 mentioned in the above quote from that MUFON article. The result needs to be then interpreted.

The leading shape reported is again a sphere. That's the easiest part, because perhaps the only object of a spherical shape that you can see in the sky is a balloon - you know, the thing that the aliens downed in Roswell, New Mexico back in 1947. However, this persistent message is to no avail, because a UFO crash is more fun.

That alien message goes hand in hand with the total number of sightings reported in the USA in May 2017, that is 470. Well, zero is not a sphere in 2D - it resembles more a circle, the second leading shape reported. So let's see the crash:

470 (ouch!)

The zero(balloon) just hit 47. Since the 47th state of the Union is New Mexico and it happened in the 47th year of the last century, there seems to be just too many peculiar coincidences... But as I said - a UFO crash is much more fun.

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 144   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 25th, 2017, 3:06pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 25th, 2017, 1:29pm, INT21 wrote:

...The question for the May sightings was: Which states represent the USA with respect to the listed UFO sightings?

I don't know.

You don't know? Well, we must take a look why is it so that you don't know..

If you stop playing stupid numbers adding games long enough to read the whole posting of the May sightings you will find, at the bottom of the countries listing...

Distribution by State

State Number of Reports

It's all there; just look.

INT21 rolleyes

How does the "State Number of Reports" invalidate the number of sightings reported?

There is something you should have pointed out instead; it concerns the title "UFO Sightings Reports..." The title should have read "Alleged UFO Sightings Reports..." Or do you really believe that the figure was higher for each listed location, because MUFON specialists sifted through and included in the Report only those sightings which could be according to the MUFON metodology classified without any doubt as UFOs?

What is the purpose of such data accumulation, when no further analysis follows? It resembles records of folks attending church services in different places. Maybe MUFON just plays some stupid number game...

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 145   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 25th, 2017, 02:22am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
I wonder what the stats would look like in June and July - the hot months for historical UFO activities.

The question for the May sightings was: Which states represent the USA with respect to the listed UFO sightings?

I don't know.

You don't know? Well, we must take a look why is it so that you don't know...

Oh, I know now!!! Just get that stupid probing needle out of my face! (Everyone come to their senses pretty quickly. LOL.)

This is how it goes: There are 50 states and so we solve this equation.

50 = U + F + O

It actually amounts to solving the UFO acronym.


There are three options:






The May UFO sightings in those states is as follows:

Utah = 4
Florida = 32
Ohio = 13
Oklahoma = 5
Oregon = 14

Since Utah + Florida = 36 sightings, it follows that we need 14 sightings to solve the 50 = U + F + O equation. That number of sightings was reported from Oregon and so,

Q: 50 = U + F + O

A: 50 = 4 + 32 + 14 = Utah + Florida + Oregon

Why did it work that way in May?

That's because the 2x3 matrix:


There is no other name of a month with only three letters.

This 2x3 matrix


was used to mess with the Royal Air Force, but I don't remember how it goes.
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 146   General UFO & Alien Board / How to Read UFO Sightings  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 7:58pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The aliens have declassified some of their stuff - probably to promote UFO literacy - so here is a part that deals with UFO crashes. You know, that's when a flying saucer develops proton engine trouble, crashes, and the government gets always to the crash site first and cleans up the site as if nothing happened. Note that the trouble-prone flying saucers never develop any engine problem over a larger city, crashing into a city hall whilst doing 3,276 mph...

The term "flying saucer" isn't good for the theory of the crashes - the acronym UFO is used instead. You will see why.

Problems are mostly caused by errors and so here is an example:

BEEF + error = EBEF

"Ebef" is no longer a valid word living in the dictionary - it's a mistake. The same goes for UFO as a solid object.

UFO + error = ?

Actually there are five possible outcomes; five basic modeling errors that can disable an alien flying object.


Here is a question: The most famous UFO crash is the one that took place near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. (We assume that an alien craft really hit the ground there.) What kind of trouble the UFO developed? OUF, OFU...?

Like in our plane crashes, one needs to examine the debris, and in the case of the Roswell crash the debris could be spread around like

O_____ F_____U


U_____O_____ F

or any one out of those five error possibilities.

This puzzle seems impossible to solve, until one realizes that the debris was picked up and examined by the personnel of the 509th Bomb Wing of the Hiroshima (in)fame stationed at Roswell. This fact creates a neutral 2(rows) x 3(columns) matrix.

5 0 9

Now you need to ask the folks at MUFON to kindly supply you with top ten UFO sightings based on the number of witnesses and the duration of the sighting. Here is a candidate:

This reported UFO sighting occurred over the Canary Islands on 22 June 1976. It is notable for its duration (over 40 minutes), multiple locations (it was observed in Tenerife, La Palma, La Gomera, Gran Canaria and by a ship at sea) and multiple witnesses (several hundred people, including both civilian and military personnel). It is one of the few accounts to include a report of details of the occupants inside the craft. The official report on the incident, by the Spanish Air Force, was declassified in June 1994, but much of its content had already been released to the public in 1977, after journalist J Benitez obtained a number of military files and used them as the basis of a book on UFO cases.

But the witnesses never observed any trouble or even a crash!

Just hold on. Due time...

On March 27, 1977, two Boeing 747 passenger jets collided on the runway at Los Rodeos Airport (now Tenerife North Airport), on the Spanish island of Tenerife, Canary Islands. The crash killed 583 people, making it the deadliest accident in aviation history.

Now pay special attention to the time difference between the time of the UFO sighting and the time of the terrible disaster - the difference between 22 June 1976 and 27 March 1977.

22 June 1976 + (0 years, 5 months, 9 days) = 27 March 1977

You can see that the time difference in years, months and days, that is 0__5__9, is just an adjustment of 509 - which refers to the 509th Bomb Wing at Roswell and the 2x3 matrix.

509 is to UFO as 059 is to FUO


0 5 9

It follows that back in July 1947, the unfortunate flying saucer that crashed near Roswell developed the FUO kind of problem. Puzzle solved.

Now wait a minute! Naw, the aliens wouldn't cause a crash that killed 583(!) earthlings just to solve some puzzle.

No? Really? Just look at them:

That's what we've created and it bounced back, didn't it?

Here is a proof-like statement, which lessens the possibility that the FUO solution is a case of some weird coincidence. It logically aligns the number of those who got killed during the two-planes collision with the solution FUO.

583 is to together and alive, as 5 8 3 is to apart and dead.

Now fill the spaces in 5 8 3 with characters that logically belong there and create a congruence with F U O.

(5 = 8 - 3) == (F = U - O)

Just replace the letters F, U, O with numbers according to the alphabetical order and the congruence holds.

(5 = 8 - 3) == (6 = 21 - 15)

You can verbalize the above this way:

5 is to 8 and 3, as F is to U and O

So that's a part of a heuristic model that supports the idea that the UFO phenomenon is actually real - but some 853 million years ahead of us.

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 147   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Light in the sky  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 11:35am
Started by Ynnews | Post by travex
on Jun 19th, 2017, 5:24pm, Ynnews wrote:
What do you thing about it?

The sun forms a semicircle as it shines through the woods and the artifact is of the same shape, so the cause really leads to a strong source of light even though one would expect to see a full circle, like here:
The effect where the sun seems to set in front of the trees is fun too. Go and experiment if the UFO-like image shows up again. Take also a pic when the sun is just above the treeline.
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 148   General UFO & Alien Board / June 24 Travel Advisory  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 12:18am
Started by travex | Post by travex
To play it safe, cancel all flights made of the triple-digit combination 0, 4, and 8; and the double-digit combination 4 and 8.

The reason for it is the 70th anniversary of Kenneth Arnold sighting. Number 70 is safe, but the event took place 70x12 or 840 month ago where 840 is a significant number, because Arnold died in the 84th year of the last century. That's why 840 is significant, because 84 is followed by 0 where zero means absence. In other words, there was no '85 coming after '84 for Kenneth nor anyone else who died in 1984.

At the time of Arnold sighting, the USA was made of only 48 states, with Alaska and Hawaii joining later. The simple logic of opposites that the aliens use to communicate sets the future this way: If there is 49 and 50 coming after 48 (Alaska and Hawaii coming after Arizona), then nothing (zero) comes after 84.

48 is to something after, as 84 is to nothing after

On June 24, 1947, Kenneth Arnold was on a business trip when he made a detour after he learned that a search had been on for a crashed military plane. The sighting of those nine mysterious objects took place shortly after he joined the search. In order to reinforce the issue of man-made flying object crashes, the aliens disabled a weather balloon over New Mexico in early July leaving most of the rest to our incompetence and hunger for a sensation.

When the aliens make an important statement, it must make a headline, and secret alien-caused plane crashes were one of the options. The government will obviously not tell you about that - no one wants any panic around here and that includes the aliens as well.

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 149   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: so,you believe in uFO  on: Jun 21st, 2017, 2:23pm
Started by carolnistri | Post by travex
Now you see it.

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The Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting occurred on June 24, 1947, when private pilot Kenneth Arnold claimed that he saw a string of nine, shiny unidentified flying objects flying past Mount Rainier at speeds that Arnold estimated at a minimum of 1,200 miles an hour (1,932 km/hr).

Now you don't.

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The way the ET's coordinate the behavior of different earth species, like mammals and birds in this case, is just amazing.

Let's keep dreaming that we are in charge of our own affairs...
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 150   General UFO & Alien Board / The Unidentified Flying Rings  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 3:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
It is known that the aliens can create interesting transitions with the notorious acronym UFO. Have you ever seen an alien spacecraft having a shape like letter U or letter F? No? How about O?

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Wow! Could that be another showcase of super advanced technology?

Hmm. Let's see another photo...

Well, the shape of the strange thing is like O - and that's enough a clue: it's a UFO.

But aren't there other options? There are plenty of words that include a single O as a clue. What would be the best example of such a word?

Looking at the picture once again, I think the best example of a word that includes a single letter O is


I guess I wouldn't be the only one to pick that word up, even though UFO expert Nick Pope expresses certain doubts:

The Daly Mail spoke to UFO expert Nick Pope who told them, “It’s a truly bizarre image. It looks like a smoke ring, but I can’t see where it could have come from.”

The next O-ring "test" is much harder.

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That's actually a vintage single crop ring of the 1980's era. The answer doesn't have to by unique one, but the way one would arrive at it can't stray from the overall circumstances - not even an inch.

Well, the official explanation says that the crop circles are man made. Let's stick with that. So pranksters made them, hoaxers made them, but also landscape artists got involved. So suppose that the crop ring was meant to be an artwork. Now when you again look at the crop ring with the word "artwork" on your mind, then, according to the ET psychologists assigned to study Homo sapiens, we should liken the ring to a circular frame and ask this question: Where the heck is the canvas; where did the painting disappear to?

So in order to bring the painting back and re-frame it, one obviously needs to find it. We are looking for some circular painting, and I think this one could be the best candidate

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because it includes an item that some UFO fans have been keenly interested in:

The problem here is that the attention focuses solely on the mysterious object in the sky and excludes the presence of the central figure (Madonna), which is important to create the following comprehensive unity.

Madonna -------> Roman Catholic Church
the mysterious object ---------> MUFON

Yes, over the long years, the RCC and MUFON have proven that both organizations have something in common with the former having possibly stricter guidelines while it investigates reported miracles. When a statue of Virgin Mary starts to shed tears in some local church, the Vatican needs to make sure that the effect cannot be rationally explained. But in case the studied effect doesn't have a rational explanation, the question why the statue decided to weep now and not a month ago, for example, is never asked. That goes for MUFON as well. This organization never asks natural follow up questions when it comes across a case with a higher degree of certainty that the observed object indeed belongs to the box labeled "UFO." That's why the interest in UFOs is often compared to a modern religion.

Finally, here is another mystery ring.

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But due to the intervention of common sense, the exciting possibilities didn't last long.

How did the aliens manage to turn our attention to that 'smOke' in Lemington Spa?

Well, there are ways and means...

And why?

To promote UFO literacy, I guess.

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 151   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The (6+24)th anniversary  on: Jun 15th, 2017, 12:35pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 14th, 2017, 8:00pm, dave54 wrote:
Why would they use our calendar anniversary? Wouldn't they use an anniversary according to their calendar?

The reason is simple: if you want to send a letter to someone who doesn't speak your language, you need to adjust to the situation.

Why would they commemorate it at all?

To initiate a set of arguments supplying a heuristic proof that what Arnold saw couldn't be some atmospheric phenomenon or that he made the story up.

The film Close Encounters of the Third Kind was reminded to the earthlings in rather explicit way once more. This time it was a scientist who uncovered the link between a strange activity and the film.

Here is a puzzle that exists within the domain of the (6+24)th anniversary of Kenneth Arnold sighting: A person turned (12+18) years of age. In other words, he turned 30. Who was likely the person and what he or she was doing at that time of his birthday?

If an alien abductee solves the puzzle, he can stay; but the failure to solve usually means that the ET's stick a long needle up his ass and send him back to the earth.

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 152   General UFO & Alien Board / The (6+24)th anniversary  on: Jun 14th, 2017, 6:05pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
What is that? That's truly a weird way to mean 30th anniversary.

Not really. It comes handy when there is no further reference to what event is the anniversary relating to.

In order to make a good guess, any near intelligent being in the Milky Way would translate that 6 and 24 into time units available in his world. In the case of earthlings, they should figure out that the (6+24)th anniversary applies to an event that took place 30 years ago on the 6th month and(+) the 24th day.

Here is an example:

Kenneth Arnold saw very strange flying objects on 6/24/1947. It follows that if the objects were intelligently manipulated by non-human intelligence and that intelligence saw Kenneth, then the encounter between the ET's and earthlings would be a historical event for the alien guys. Because they are aliens, their way of selecting a special anniversary may not follow our customs where, for example, there is no meaningful difference between let's say the 10th anniversary and the 20th anniversary. We just go by our decimal system and that's good enough.

Not so for the ET's though. They skipped the 10th and the 20th anniversary of the historical encounter with Kenneth Arnold, but they decided to observe the 30th anniversary. That's because they saw Kenneth inside his ancient flying machine on 6/24 earth time and 6+24=30. That anniversary took place in the year of 1977. (1947+30=1977).

And so the ET's decided to abduct a few earthlings as advisers and the question was: What would be the best way to commemorate the historical event, so the earthlings would be also involved?

One of the abducted earthlings suggested to the ET's to make a movie about an encounter between space guys and earthlings - something that the earth folks would really like.

The ET's gave it the go-ahead and that's how the 1977 movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind came about - with the help of telepathy.

Wait a minute! Why those three guys, who got abducted to advice the ET's, hadn't approached the UFO researchers to share their experience? Well, they never came back - one would have to be a complete idiot to do so. Or do you think that an ordinary person from the 14th century whom we would abduct couldn't wait to get back to his lovely dark-aged world?

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 153   Crop Circles / Looking farther back...  on: Jun 13th, 2017, 2:45pm
Started by travex | Post by travex

There is one and important feature in the above design that dates way back to 1988, namely the feature of intersecting components. If a group of college graduates were asked to provide a two-word description of what they see inside the ring, there would be two kind of answers:

1) star, crescent
2) crescent, star

The (1) choice would probably make majority in the answers, because the star is the larger one of the two symbols and we usually decide that way. But as you see, that criterion of choice is not what organizes those two words. Consider (2): It is clear from the photo that the crescent is partly covered by the star. That arrangement creates an impression of the crescent being laid down first with the star being placed later on top.

Why did the circle makers use this type of arrangement? It could go the other way as well: first comes the star and then the crescent is placed on top of it.

Well, that wouldn't work as far as the extraction of the future date 15/7 is concerned.

Please follow the construction: First came the crescent - a whole object with number one attached to it. Then came the star that "cut" the crescent into five pieces. That two-step sequence of events creates number onefive or 15 --> fifteen. So if the crescent is now made of five segments through the cutting/dividing implication, how many components is the star made of?

It is a seven-pointed star, so the number of "components" is 7. And that's how the date 15/7 was sequentially constructed.

(Crescent --> Star) => 15/7 or 15 July

That encoded future date corresponds with a future event.

"On 15 July 2016, an alleged coup d'état was attempted in Turkey against state institutions, including, but not limited to the government and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan."

Please pay attention to the seven plants-up segments appearing within the star. In case they were omitted, the number assigned to the star could be easily just 1, because we would see one star with no indication to use a closer description "seven-pointed star." In that case the sequential count would change:

(Crescent --> Star) => A or B?
A=15 1 (apart)
B=151 (together)

Choice B=151 (the star lies on top of the crescent, therefore both items are not apart) takes us as an important reminder back to 1996 - again to the vicinity of Stonehenge.

"This Julia Set Fractal appeared as a sensational crop circle, opposite Stonehenge on 7th July 1996. It contained 151 circles..."

Choice B is an implied reference made to the 20th anniversary of the appearance of the extraordinary crop circle whose purpose was completely misunderstood - namely the issue of Whole versus Part and What versus When.

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 154   General UFO & Alien Board / The 70th Kenneth A. Arnold Sighting Anniversary  on: Jun 12th, 2017, 3:09pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
It's coming up in a couple of weeks. It was Kenneth Arnold's observation of nine strange objects, which he saw while piloting his small plane, that set the stage for the Roswell incident. Actually last year was the "proper" anniversary, because Kenneth Arnold died at the age of 69 - and so did David Bowie (January 10, 2016 - aged 69) in the first month and Greg Lake (December 7, 2016 - aged 69) of ELP fame in the last month, with unusually high number of musicians in between. No wonder that CNN called 2016 "the year that music died."

But according to the Steven Spielberg movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," it was music - those repeating five tones coming from the huge UFO - that brought the folks of this planet to a certain degree of awareness. The movie was a fiction, or maybe a semi-fiction, but the reality may look completely different and shockingly unexpected. After all, we share with others a place called Universe, which is 13.8 billion years old.

Isn't it strange that Kenneth Arnold saw 9 objects and 9 happens to be 6 written upside down? Both symbols are geometric opposites and that makes them a prime choice to be used as digits to mean opposites, such as the first and the last, or presence and absence. The SETI uses digits 1 and 0 instead for the purpose of sending out messages, like "Is there anybody out there?"

But 1 and 0 don't imply opposites to the members of an alien world, as symbols 6 and 9 clearly do. So they use 6 and 9 instead. The problem is that the guys at SETI created the living universe "to their image, to their likeness," and squarely ignored the message that the ETs left for them with Kenneth Arnold - and some of the aging rock stars.

So I think the 70th anniversary wouldn't be so heavily observed by the alien world as the 69th anniversary was.
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 155   Crop Circles / Looking back...  on: Jun 12th, 2017, 08:45am
Started by travex | Post by travex

Even after nearly a year, the purpose of the resemblance between the Stonehenge crop circle of July 8, 2016 and the Islamic symbol already mentioned by Sys_Config remains unexplained. I mean, what in the world got Islam to do with a site whose history passes Islam and reaches deep into the neolithic era?

To find the answer, one must go through the palette of options made of state flags that feature a star and crescent. There are at least thirteen such flags and the circle makers asked to pick one. Choose wisely...

But if I pick the flag of Turkey,
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how would I know that my choice was right or wrong?

Well, as always, you find the correct answer on the front page of a newspaper shortly thereafter.

Wow! Do I get a cosmic banana for that?

Note, however, that the star in the crop circle design is not a five-pointed star, but seven-pointed one. That's because that number tells you when the correct answer becomes available. In this case the coup d'etat in Turkey took place exactly seven days after the Stonehenge crop circle had been reported.

And that's why the Islamic symbol of a crescent and star appeared by the ancient site of Stonehenge; it is because Stonehenge has a older brother named Gobekli Tepe who lives in Turkey.

But there is another, much harder question coming: How did the hoaxers know that there would be a news-making military coup d'etat in Turkey after seven days when even the best government analysts didn't see that coming?

Actually it is not that hard: the hoaxers are simply much smarter guys then all senior analysts working for CIA and NSA combined.


Well, wasn't that crop circle by Stonehenge sufficient evidence of that?

What do you think? huh
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 156   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 18th, 2016, 5:48pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 9th, 2016, 09:21am, LoneGunMan wrote:
Much of your reasoning is also flawed!

You should at least point to a couple of examples where you think my reasoning was flawed. But I'm well aware of the fact that such an inclusion is not what the UFO religion stands on, apart from the practice of keeping fanatic believers within certain limits (see the recent Southwest airline case). The Roman Catholic Church has a similar practice to filter out claims of alleged miracles that, when accepted, would make a laughing stock out of the Church. But there is a substantial difference between both systems of belief. Unlike the UFO, the RCC doesn't make implicitly an idiot out of the object of its worship.

Being confrontational is fine ..if you knew what the hell you're talking about. I can change ANY Wiki fact to corroborate a finding with the click of a mouse! Some of the people you 'quote' have a problem with honesty.

Firstly, I knew what I was talking about - I can count. I used a certain wording only once, and that person whom you advocate for claimed that I had used the wording several times. Secondly, I already explained what my intention with Wikipedia was. You apparently ignored the explanation. Not that I would be surprised by that ...

Your own conclusions leave much to be desired. Betty Hill was a much loved member here.

Betty Hill always played a role of a messiah or a saint for the UFO flock - and nothing more than that. That's why further reference by the ET's to her and Barney's case has gone by completely unnoticed. That's why you won't be able to make any sense of "RUWACO" even after fifty million years.

What you are is an aggregater.... and not a very good one! Cherry picking 'facts' doesn't further your argument nor is attacking one who asks pertinent questions only to be 'de-bunked' by someone who complains about de-bunkers!

LOL. That guy can't even find my quotes to support his claims. He can hardly debunk a cockroach.

When I was here the last time, you had only two yellow stars - or three? And now... look at that! Keep your faith up high and who knows... You would surely make a fine Bishop of Roswell. grin
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 157   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 9th, 2016, 04:00am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 7th, 2016, 7:08pm, dave54 wrote:
You cite wikipedia as a source. Fail. At the end of every wikipedia article is a list of sources used.

You don't cite anything because, your misguided ideas don't have a match in the real world. You junk Wikipedia without giving one single reason for doing so. That's a Dark Age practice that apparently suits you the best.
I didn't say that at the end of Wikipedia are no sources used. My reference was meant to be general, like yes, the term "alien implant" does exist outside the UFO gospels.

In several cases you used the phrase "It is possible that..." That is a lazy and cowardly way of supporting an argument.

Well, you apparently didn't accept that 51=51, on which the possibility I raised stood. Remember?
"It is also possible that some aliens who are alleged to live in Area 51, (I hope that you accept that 51=51) called the feds and told them to end the stand-off."
Note that I said that "I hoped," because you can easily deny that 1+1=2, as I noticed from your very first reply. Learn the meaning of the word "several," because I used "It is also possible..." only once, not several times, as your claims run wilder still.

I don't feel like wasting my time and keep replying to a troll. Yawn...

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 158   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 7th, 2016, 4:32pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 7th, 2016, 12:01pm, dave54 wrote:
You claimed the aliens told the FBI to attack the Waco compound on the 51st day, then denied it.

You seem to have the habit of misinterpreting what others said. You also seem to have certain difficulties to understand the meaning of the word "quotation," because you don't use it to support your claims. You also doesn't understand the meaning of the word "contradiction."

In the case of the federal agents at Waco, it is clear to anyone except you that the agents were nor aware of who actually changed their mind on the 51st day of the standoff - the District of Columbia day (not an officially recognized day). It is also possible that some aliens who are alleged to live in Area 51, (I hope that you accept that 51=51) called the feds and told them to end the stand-off.

The cardinals of the UFO religion failed the ordinary/special test: The first 50 days at Waco were ordinary, because each of them involved negotiation. Then comes the 51st day, and the compound goes up in flames and that assigns a special flavor to number 51. The same goes for the Areas in the Nevada desert. There are all ordinary, except for Area 51, which is supposedly infested with aliens. Isn't that a bit coincidental? What's the matter with that number 51?

Here is a "numerological" arithmetic for you: rabid UFO believers + deranged debunkers = epic fail of reason.
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 159   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 6th, 2016, 9:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 4th, 2016, 8:49pm, dave54 wrote:
Your argument is the absence of evidence is proof of existence.

This is nonsensical.

But I never argued anything that would inspire you to comment like that. You need to quote my sentences that contain a particular argument that you are not happy with and show where you think it squeaks. Otherwise your reply is a baseless assertion.
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 160   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 4th, 2016, 6:21pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 4th, 2016, 12:13pm, dave54 wrote:
Your original post claims there is some mystic symbology to the number 51. There is not. It is just a sequential number designating a block of land. There also is an Area 50 and Area 52, as well as 1, 2, 3, etc. You never hear of those because nothing of conspiracy theorist interest happen there.

I asked you to quote me on your allegiation that I refered to some "Dreamland." You failed. Now you say that I claimed some "mystic symbology" to the number 51 attached to a word.

Nonsense. There is nothing mystic about it. If I tell you to choose one designated area from Area 1 to Area 99, you'll take a random choice, because you wouldn't be able to tell them apart, even If I tell you that the areas are owned by the US government. You will just fail to come up with an applicable criterion of choice.

You also state U.S. Presidents have had alien implants. Care to mention which ones, and what is the source of your assertion?

You imply millions of people have have implants. Again, what is your source?

The source is the UFO messaging service, known as simply UFO.

I do not know of a single documented case where an extricated foreign body was determined to be an extraterrestial tracking or communication device. There are a lot of "I do not know what it is". That does not prove it is an extraterrestial implant. Can you cite a case where an extricated lump was determined to be such a device?

Let me quote myself:
"Without the UFO messaging service, we would never find out that some alien implants (not really solid objects) exist and how they work."

That's why a neurosurgeon would never find any foreign object in the brain of a person who would claim having one. The term "alien implant" is a term which is understood by UFOlogists as far as its purpose is concerned, but it doesn't described the actual technology involved. The universe is much, much smarter than that.

And the claim aliens orchestrated the Waco incident is pretty bizarre.

That's your emotional response, but hardly logical one. Btw, it is not a claim, but a hypothesis.
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 161   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 3rd, 2016, 1:57pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 3rd, 2016, 12:04pm, dave54 wrote:
Nice try at inventing a story, the real story of Area 51 is more mundane.

When the area was first being laid out as the Nevada Test Site in the early 1950s the subdivided blocks were numbered on a map, starting at 1, the highest number in the 60s IIRC. In 1955 the military needed a secret test site for their experimental aircraft, most notably the U2. Several unused blocks of the Nevada Test Site were deemed suitable, the one chosen was the block that contained an old dried alkali lake bed, Groom Lake. This block was number 51 on the preexisting Nevada Test Site maps.

Your explanation never runs on contrary to what I said. An idea suggested by the intervention of an alien implant is in 99% of cases rational one, as it needs to be. How do you think that "speaking monkeys" like us learned to leave the caves to form some sort of civilization as we know it today?

Without the UFO messaging service, we would never find out that some alien implants (not really solid objects) exist and how they work.

An alien implant simply takes over the human mind and a targeted person becomes a robot that receives instructions - for good or bad. If the aliens want us to know whether a person acted under an "alien influence," they would simply create a set of coincidental arrangements that under normal or "free" conditions can hardly materialize.

You also see some references to Dreamland in the web world, and all kinds of claims of secret meaning to the word, or some contrived acronym. Dreamland is merely a radio call sign for the complex. The word has no secret meaning or symbolism. The word Dreamland was chosen because it is easy to remember, understandable in a static filled or garbled radio transmission and unlikely to be confused with any other radio call sign in the region.

I never mentioned any Dreamland. Can you quote me?
That's what alien implants are also beneficial to Homo sapiens. They help the species to better focus.

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 162   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO tampered with Southwest 3472 engine in fli  on: Aug 31st, 2016, 11:16am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 30th, 2016, 11:54am, LoneGunMan wrote:
I'm not saying aliens don't exist or have been here. I'm saying in this instance there is no 'proof' at all that this was a UFO encounter.

Proof? But the picture
speaks of no proof, for a religion stands just on faith alone...

It's all bluster and innuendo! Someone making nothing into something that isn't there!

How do you know if something isn't there? If you can't see something, others might. Like that little boy in the pic.

He's looking exactly at the center point of the painting. So if you look at the center ( ) of Flight 3472, that means at the number itself, you see nothing.

34( )72.

But the center could be also the middle digits


and you see something. Something that is similar to 1947, the year when the poor aliens didn't make the sharp turn at Roswell and crashed.

But there is nothing much going between Southwest (Airlines), which is marked 8:30 on the face of the clock, and 3472. So the aliens didn't shoot the passenger plane down, because no relation good for pulling the trigger while aiming at the plane was there. It was just a shot over the bow.

One of the real proofs of UFO being the real deal are some of the notable plane crashes. Why do you think the alleged crashed alien disk at Roswell was recovered by the US airmen? Is there a better clue link?
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 163   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO tampered with Southwest 3472 engine in fli  on: Aug 30th, 2016, 08:21am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 29th, 2016, 11:37pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
There are no less than 2 commercial flights an hour passing each other on that route. That's not counting the hundreds of private flights to and from Orlando and NOr'Lanz!! Plus all the other airports in between! He saw another planes landing lights. On crowded flight routes that's quite normal. Even during daylight hours!

If someone can show me interviews and competent reports I might change my mind but this sounds like so much BS!

You are not attempting some unclean critical thinking tricks, are you? angry
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 164   General UFO & Alien Board / Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Aug 27th, 2016, 04:09am
Started by travex | Post by travex
The template for the mechanics of the alien abduction has become the case of Barney and Betty Hill. There is an explanation supplied by the skeptics, but it can be shown as insufficient.

According to the skeptic/debunker view, Barney and Betty misidentified something in the sky, later spreading a story about them encountering a UFO. Later still, the word reached John G. Fuller who realized that the incident itself was not enough to write a book about, and so he made with the Hills a deal.

From that point a certain pattern started to develop. Unsuspecting folks live their lives in the rational frame of things up to one nice night when they spot something strange in the sky... It doesn't take long and they face a swinging pendulum as a specialized hypnotherapy expert tries to unblock their memory, which contains a tale of alien abduction.

Clearly the super-advanced alien neuroscience that is responsible for the memory blockage is no match for a far less sophisticated method of pendulum swinging. Btw, a pint of Johnny Walker may block memory too - it depends...

Why would the aliens try to block the memory of the abductees? Is it because they secretly placed an implant into the brain of selected earthlings?

It follows that without having some surprising UFO experience, a person may never even suspect that he or she has been abducted and a chip has been placed inside the cerebral area.

So who has been wearing the bug lately?

The answer is circling around Area 51...

We know what "area" means, but what is the meaning of the numerical assignment - that number 51?

The installation in the Nevada desert known as "Area 51" is run by the US Government. Since the USA is a collection of 50 states plus the District of Columbia, where the feds are mostly located, it only make sense to assign number 51 to a place run by the government, even though the District of Columbia is not officially the 51st state.

But, much more importantly, the assignment 51 is in compliance with a coding method that only the aliens use, where the last two letters of a word define the following number:


Since E is the 5th letter and A is the 1st letter in the alphabet, it follows that

If E=5 and A=1 then EA=51.

Hence "arEA 51."

Now it follows by implication that some federal employees have alien implant in their heads without even having the slightest idea that it is so.

Let's test the daring hypothesis. Fortunately the aliens were so kind to provide an example case when the brain implants were activated. Just follow the feds around until you come across number 51 in a rather significant way ...

A 51-day siege ensued, ending with an FBI assault during which the compound burned down...

The feds were really trying hard for 50 days to end the standoff peacefully through a patient negotiation while being well aware of the volatility of the situation. Comes along the 51st day and the implants were activated in connection with Area 51 and its link to the aliens.

Come on, feds! Today is the District of Columbia day, you know, the 51st "state." That's your day, so give those religious freaks hell. Good luck.

Next time, we look at some of the US presidents who had an alien implant. Or do you think that the aliens only stick the darn thing into the head of some nobodies? How do you imagine the aliens would then run this world, forcrysake?

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 165   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: WWI "Red Baron" proves that Bob Laza  on: Aug 25th, 2016, 12:23am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 9th, 2016, 9:16pm, Nyx wrote:
The WWI Red Baron's wing man, Peter Waitz Rick, reported to the German air force that Baron Richthofen ( red baron ) went after a large silver disc near the air field which also turned orange.

The Red Baron fired on the silver disc and damaged its antenna on the top center of the craft which made the disc land.

Once the disc landed, two aliens fled into the nearby forest.

After this incident, The Joint Command issued new directives relating to the study of human activities, which prohibited the crew of GK vehicles (UFO's) to come within 20 miles of the point of interest, because the ET's could encounter superior technologies, like the Red Baron's Fokker triplane. That's why you never see a UFO near any story-developing action that CNN is very keen to follow.

What happened to those two aliens who fled to the woods?

A lost British infantryman claimed having seen two terrified beings running due north-east. They appeared to be in shock yelling at him, "Fokker... Fokker!" The infantrymen didn't like the gross impertinence and a fistfight ensued.

Both ET's were later captured by a German artillery officer. The taller ET being, nicknamed Fritz, died in 1928 in the Berlin Zoo. There is no record of what happened to his companion.

Germans also recovered the crash-landed disk and later tried to build a replica.
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 166   Crop Circles / Re: Just amazing crop circle 19 miles from Stonehe  on: Aug 23rd, 2016, 12:58am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 13th, 2016, 9:46pm, Nyx wrote:
This crop circle has really gotten attention in the area because it is very complex.

Crop circles are meant for someone in the sky, not people on the ground.

That's a Mothershipglass logo.

The company is located past Pluto and sells cool things, which are unfortunately too expensive.
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 167   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 7:51pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 22nd, 2016, 07:50am, MOKSHA wrote:
1 2 3

4 5 6

7 8 9


The UFO code 369 used to stand for the phenomenon of extra sensory perception - ESP.

Code etymology:
Since ESP stands also for Earth, Saturn, Pluto - the 3rd, the 6th, and the 9th planets of the solar system, the code 369 was adopted for ESP. But since Pluto is no longer considered a planet by the astronomers, the ET's discontinued the usage of code 369, except in connection with meditation (369 Hz sound and so on).

The original code 369 wasn't that practical anyway, because the position of Pluto is extremely difficult to establish for the time before 1885 and after 2099, so it's hard to predict what would mankind "extrasense" again when the Earth---Saturn---Pluto alignment takes place.

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 168   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 02:31am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 20th, 2016, 9:48pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
I believe in codes Travex....welcome btw !

I believe there is an order to the chaos theory. What that is, IDK yet. I DO know that there are "certain" (I will label) "coincidences" that happen to apply with unknown variables in certain situations.

I will leave it at that, for now..... undecided

Nikola Tesla himself stressed the importance of 3,6,and 9. wink


I'm "fairly certain" there is even more to it...I'm not "advanced enough" in mathematics....what do I know ?

smiley cool

Thanks, Cliff.

There is a certain benefit in not being "advanced" in some fields - it makes you keep wondering...

The reason for that 9 coming up all the time, as it shows in your video, lies in the property of the decimal system.

According to the following short article, the 360-degree circle is 4400 years old.

Here is a case for 4 and 5 is 9:

The following pic looks like a crop circle
but it is not. The ring-like feature that resides between the 4th and the 5th planet of our solar system is the belt where asteroids live. They spend their time doing nothing but making 360 degree turns around the sun.

But sometimes it happens that two asteroids collide with one another and the collision throws them off their circular path. From that point on, they may assume an orbit that is no longer a circle but an ellipse, and they may cross the earth's orbit.

So if an ellipse is similar to a circle
and circle=360 (degrees), then an ellipse should be assigned a number similar to 360.

There are five possibilities to make a similar number to 360:

a) 306 b) 630 c) 603 d) 036 e) 063

The ET's apparently chose ellipse=306, because one of the off-course asteroid ignored the stop sign and collided with the earth's atmosphere on 30.6., or 30. June, in Tunguska and became DOA before managing to make a crater.

That's probably the reason why the ET's chose this particular day/month for their luminous hoax. Given the circumstances, the date doesn't appear to be random with respect to the circular and elliptical orbits of asteroids.

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 169   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 21st, 2016, 7:47pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 21st, 2016, 06:51am, INT21 wrote:

There are a lot of maybes etc in your OP.

I couldn't include all what is needed to make things tighter.

And the idea of some aliens diverting asteroids is sheer bunk.

That's what the majority of experts in the 19th century said about flying machines heavier than air, for example. But unlike you, they at least complemented their assertion with a reason based on their belief.

Lots of claims we would make to a 17th century educated person would be considered sheer bunk. Walking on the moon? Okay, that's it. I've heard enough.

The whole numerology bit likewise. You can reduce any number, no mater how long, down to a number between 0 and 9.

What did inspire you to mention numerology? There in not a single instance in the OP where a number would be reduced to a single digit from 1 to 9 and its meaning interpreted.

Solving equations, like 2 + 15 = x + y, is not numerology.

We use codes all the time. I mean we mostly use "stupid" codes, which are strings of numbers or letters, or a combination of both, which are arbitrary. Here is an example from the HTTP Status and Error Codes:

403 = Forbidden

Does number 403 imply that something is forbidden?
This is crazy...

The ET's use "clever" codes, meaning that there is an association between the code number and Forbidden - the code number "would make sense." For example, they might use

217 = Forbidden.

See the difference?

Since the nature can't read, it can't acquire knowledge, and so it can't include in its works a reference that would appear to an observer as a set of very strange coincidences.

The ET's tried to teach the basic coding and decoding techniques through the UFO appearances....
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 170   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 20th, 2016, 9:27pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 20th, 2016, 6:47pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Hmmmmm..... wink

This might have messed things up a and all.....


Not so for time data limited to years with respect to geology. But for Tunguska-like events that were witnessed with the day, month, and year recorded, the Gregorian calendar, or the N.S. (New Style) date can be applied across the board I guess, as implied by the Tunguska event, which took place on 30. June, 1908 (N.S.) Since 1908 was a leap year, the date 30. June is the last day of the first half of that year, and the very next day, 1. July, is the first day of the second half. (Special event/special time.)

How would you choose between those two dates?

The ET's chose the first option. But is the end of the first half a more logical option than the beginning of the last half with respect to the circumstances?

I think it is an open question. I would choose 1. July, or 1/7, because

a) 1+7 = 8 = ASTEROID ( the word is 8 letters long)
b) 1+7 = 8 = TUNGUSKA ( the word is also 8 letters long)

But the ET's chose the previous day, 30. June.

Now go figure...

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 171   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 20th, 2016, 9:03pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 19th, 2016, 4:31pm, INT21 wrote:
Anyway, your post heading says 'The Tunguska Mystery Solved.'

I'm still waiting for the answer.


I thought that the OP was sufficiently explanatory - the Tunguska bolide was an asteroid, not a comet. Its trajectory wasn't given by the nature but the ET's who use equations to set things apart: what is the nature and what is not. The same can be said about the Chelyabinsk bolide whose apparition surprised the experts so much.

A meteorites crater is possibly the only way to establish the time when the earth came under the protection of an ET civilization that has discovered out planet. Some believe that we are the only curious creatures in the universe who have searched for intelligent extraterrestrial life, but that's a wrong belief.

If you can redirect an asteroid, you can make two craters having a relation that couldn't be possibly random. So if the older crater was made some fifty million years ago, for example, then you know the ET's were here long before us.

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 172   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 19th, 2016, 4:26pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 19th, 2016, 11:15am, Cliff-67 wrote:
There was also Chelyabinsk recently...

And many other events and impacts around the world for millenia...


That's true, but we are still here. You don't really have to deflect anything, which doesn't threaten humankind. Moreover, if you divert all crater-forming space junk away from the earth, then human scientists would later figure out the likelihood that the earth would be hit by such objects, but there would be no craters found. Such oddity would become a hard problem to solve - not so for the folks in the Vatican, though.

Imagine a large part of earth surface designated 12/21/2012 (two thousand twelve). Here comes a giant space rock, five times the size of Mt. Everest, hits the surface thereby creating a humongous crater in the surface 12/21/2012. That effect looks like this:

12/21/20 12 (twenty twelve).

Where would you find the impact crater?

You need to theoretically examine the crater itself and find what could create it. The computer model tells you that the space object looks like 8, because

20 - 8 = 12.

Since "asteroid" is a collection of 8 letters, you conclude that the crater was caused by an asteroid and not a comet.

That's nice, but where exactly would the impact zone be?

Since 12/21/2012 is also a date rumored to be the time of an unprecedented catastrophe, add that 8 to that date and wait...

12/21/2012 + 8 (weeks) = 2/15/2013

Here we go...

Why would the ET redirect a symbolic, message carrying asteroid to illuminate the sky over Russia once again?

Have you ever heard the expression "playing Russian Roulette?" That's exactly what you do, mankind. Build your own protective shield, because it's becoming too expensive to maintain and we're leaving anyway. Build your own UFO's too.

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 173   General UFO & Alien Board / The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 18th, 2016, 9:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The study of asteroids and comets, and ever-increasing computing power have left the scientists with better understanding of what might have happened over Tunguska region back in 1908.

Okay, the cause for the devastation was a super-bolide. This description refers to the way the object is behaving after it enters the atmosphere, but it doesn't answer the question whether the intruder from space was a comet or an asteroid.

Does it even matter? There is really no way of telling unless... Unless the menacing object was redirected away from densely populated areas. Once you gain control over the object, you can choose its destination.

That would be nice if we had a shield installed that would protect our planet against killer asteroids or comets. Until we build it - if ever - we must rely on the alien-built protective shield. But is there anything like that?

If there were, the Tunguska super-bolide would have been completely redirected away from the earth - unless the aliens wanted the earthlings know that the earth is being protected against similar events that could seriously harm or even wipe out human population. The question whether the super-bolide was an icy comet, or a dark, ugly-looking asteroid is solved by setting up a match race between a comet and an asteroid. Whatever wins gets a free ticket to Tunguska.

There are two possible ways the race could end:

1) COMET, ASTEROID | finish line
2) ASTEROID, COMET | finish line

Those who bet on the asteroid winning the race can joyfully approach the windows, because the asteroid won by six lengths (------):


Those who learned something from the UFO appearances surely know why the comet won by that margin.


Just replace the dashes by what is applicable in this case:


That's a pretty long string of letters. How many of them are there? 1, 2, 3, ...

cometunguskasteroid = 19

Now count the length of the part of that long string that identifies the name of the affected region

tunguska = 08

and the whole arrangement returns the year the event took place:


Note that what exploded over Tunguska is described by a word above "TUNGUSKA" that has the same length as the name of the region.


Both words have the same number of letters: 8

This clever WHAT=WHEN=WHERE arrangement is only possible if you gain a full control of a space body aiming for the earth.

Not everyone would agree, though. For example, the folks at NASA or SETI would be among the first to call it a bunch of coincidences, because their deep scientific knowledge gives them a clear picture of an ET civilization that discovered our planet some eighty million years ago. Why would the ET's build some anti-asteroid shield around their precious find to protect the extremely rare case of life in the universe? Heck, we live here and have built no shield like that. So why would they? And we see no alien protective shield around our planet anyway.

Maybe it is made of the "dark matter," which is something no one can see too, yet, according to the esteemed scientists, is out there.

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 174   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Is Trump Just Plain Nuts?  on: Aug 10th, 2016, 03:06am
Started by GhostofEd | Post by travex
on Aug 8th, 2016, 12:18pm, Swamprat wrote:
Many folks are now thinking Trump will back out of the race within weeks. I still cannot decide whether the below article is the accurate explanation, or whether he and the Clintons agreed on this a long time ago.....

Trump's Love Affair with Presidency is Over

Dahleen Glanton
Chicago Tribune

There is only one reasonable explanation for Donald Trump's erratic behavior in recent weeks.

Yes, there is. Trump, like many other notable people, has an alien implant in his brain that helps him to succeed. Obviously he, like the other implanted guys, is unaware of it and ascribes his success to his "wisdom." From the beginning of his campaign, he has displayed peculiar behavior, which is the signal to look at the string PRESIDENT. The UFO codes call for the following:

The word PRESIDENT is also a collection of initials - you can create 36 different initials, like P. R., P. E., R. S., E. N., and so on, going from left to right. Which of the 36 cases is unique?

Well, considering only the first name and the last name, it follows that first is the opposite of last as 6 is opposite to 9, as you turn 6 the opposite way. That means the 6th and the 9th letters in PRESIDENT must be the unique initials. In this case the initials are D. T. and belong to name Donald Trump.

Learn the UFO codes, guys, learn the future so you wouldn't be surprised by a sudden turn of events of the nasty kind.
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 175   Crop Circles / Re: How did a crop circle appear near to Stoneheng  on: Aug 8th, 2016, 1:40pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 18th, 2016, 2:15pm, GhostofEd wrote:
I read it and once it started to drift into the "negative energy" theories and anecdotal accounts it lost a lot of it's credibility for me.

Newbie here. Hello to all.

Unfortunately the phenomenon has been used by various groups to pursue their own interest and so there has been little done to redirect the investigation where it is supposed to be. The crop circles represent a hypothetical environment and there are rules and methods that need to be applied. "I want to believe"- a slogan often used with the UFO - throws the subject right into the arms of some religion and its practices. Unless the slogan is replaced by "let's assume," events that defy easy explanation would keep falling into wrong hands.

How the Stonehenge crop formation was done?

The answer depends on who is the author. If it is another case of landscape art, then the technology used was a rope and a plank. If it is a case of "non-human landscape art"... Here is the problem. If you stumble upon a crop circle researcher who would refer to the alleged elusive non-human circle makers as "cosmic artists," you know that something is not right with his/her approach to the mystery.

Lets' assume that some crop circles are not the result of a human activity. Would you easily accept the idea that the sole purpose of the manifestation was to introduce a new form of landscape art to humans?

If it is not the case, then there must be a difference in the formation design. People who do the crop circles see themselves as landscape artists and so their work is hardly informative. Moreover, their activity doesn't call for carefully choosing the environment where their art would appear - they wouldn't sweat over a question which "canvas" to choose and when is the right time to start painting, for example. They may chose a field in the close vicinity to Stonehenge, but their design would hardly acknowledge the monument.

But the alternative source of the crop circles does the same thing!

Really? Look again.

This year marks the 20th anniversary of the creation of then much debated formation near Stonehenge called the Julia set. It was reported on 7. July. The present formation near Stonehenge was reported on 8. July. Which date is more appropriate for hitting a field in the vicinity of Stonehenge?

The landscape artists could care less, so answering the question could set things nicely apart.

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