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 1   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Today at 12:10am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Yesterday at 6:41pm, ZETAR wrote:
cool

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SHALOM...Z


An answer that is clear, simple, and wrong... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm...

Oh! I know which answer is that!

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 2   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Yesterday at 5:04pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Yesterday at 12:57pm, thelmadonna wrote:
Don't be so condescending. Define your 0's & 1's into something other than an unfathomable puzzle. You would be as swell saying divide the number by 9 cubits squared. At least that way you will come up with something definable.

Your comment makes little sense.

1) We don't define something into something else; we convert something into something else.

2) If I divide that long decimal number by 9 cubits square, or practically 9^2=81, as you suggested, then the result is

15348727029572790987377871464860030720277379691248559591586244039460913439735706050450773 remainder 27

Do you see any order in the result? No? That's because there in none. The division returns another random decimal number.

But if I convert the original decimal number into a binary number, then the result is

100111000011111000000111111100000000111111111000000
000011111111111000000000000111111111111100000000000
000111111111111111000000000000000011111111111111111
000000000000000000111111111111111111100000000000000
000000111111111111111111111000000000000000000000011
111111111111111111111000000000000000000000000


Do you see any pattern in this result?

If you don't, then there is obviously nothing anyone can do apart from pointing out the pattern itself. I already did that, but apparently to no avail.

Do you think that the authors of the Arecibo mesage, which anticipates some basic analytic skills on the part of the hypothetical ET's, be better off to divide the long string of ones and zeroes, which they sent to space, by "9 cubits squared?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message

I wonder if anyone around here including you can choose between Metternich and Darwin using the original decimal number.

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754
991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640

 
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 3   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Yesterday at 12:35pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Yesterday at 07:22am, thelmadonna wrote:
travex


You are the numbers guy Why don't you come up with the answer?

I already did. I think the construction was a bit hard for you to follow, otherwise you wouldn't ask.
 
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 4   General UFO & Alien Board / UFO: An easy prey for skeptics  on: Aug 20th, 2017, 4:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The UFO investigators of the past, people like Bruce Maccabbe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Maccabee
had the misfortune of not being able to exercise their expertise in acquiring photos of UFOs that would be taken quite professionally. The reason? Up to this day, no one has the slightest idea where the next UFO manifestation will take place. After those long years, it can be only concluded that the hypothetical ET's are genuinely disinterested in everything the media consider worth of covering. It is a common knowledge though that the ET's are, for example, very keen to learn something about a rural area field somewhere in Broken Downs, as Nyx recently recalled his/her own sighting. In other, general words, the UFO appearances are a towering example of randomness.

It was very long time ago when common sense revealed to Homo sapiens that randomness and purposelessness are close cousins. So, no wonder that SETI, for example, refuses to discuss the merits of UFO, especially when a skeptic can explain the reason for such a random behavior rather easily: There is no International Association of UFO Hoaxers, so there is a lack of coordination in this type of activity. Then we have the notion that 95% of UFO sightings can be rationally explained, which implies that the observer is more or less ignorant of the realities of this world. Those people are dispersed randomly around the globe, and that contributes to the random reporting of UFO sighting.

The point is that the skeptics can explain the reason for the random environment where the UFO lives, as opposed to the UFO researchers, who can't even peep on this crucial subject with the UFO theologians avoiding this topic the same way the medieval monks refused to speak about the devil during dinner.

However, there is another option to consider: the appearance of UFOs - those cases with higher degree of certainty of being the real deal - may not be random at all. We just can't see some order in it. Here is an example, which allegedly comes from a labeling strip made of a special composite material found inside a crashed UFO. The strip contained a long string of following digits:

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640

The government investigators surprised the fact that those characters were Arabic decimal numbers - something that we can identified with - and so they paid a special attention to it. The string of digits was subjected to a statistical analysis, but it was found patternless, lacking any significant deviation from randomness. By implication, the whole thing was purposeless. But would anyone do something with no purpose at all?

The chief government investigator concluded that the purpose was likely the situation of Homo sapiens finding the strip and wondering about its meaning. By implication, the UFO crash had to be deliberate, otherwise the strip wouldn't end up in human hands.

The insight into a possible meaning of the numerical string came about as a coincidence. It was the remark, "God knows what that means, if anything" - a remark credited to one of the government analysts tasked to examine the strip because of its unusual physical properties. It occurred to one of his colleagues to reach for the Bible and look up the part where God describes himself via the mouth of Jesus Christ:

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

First/Last or Beginning/End are opposites, and the puzzling string of digits has naturally its own beginning and end as well. But the first digit and the last digit didn't seem to be a random choice,

1243 ......... 2640

because ONE and ZERO are widely used as opposites, mainly as TRUE and FALSE in logic .
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Projects/CAL/digital-logic/gatesfunc/graphics/summarytable.gif

Moreover, a string of ones and zeroes have been chosen as a mean of sending out the Arecibo message!
https://i2.wp.com/www.cropcircleresearch.com/imgs/uk01dm/code.gif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message

What are the chances that a string of decimal digits would start and end with exactly those digits that we use to render opposites?

The chances are 50 to 1 and that was enough to assume that the decision to start and end the first and the last digit of the numerical string with 1 and 0 respectively was not a random choice.

If it wasn't a random choice, then there must have been a purpose in the decision to start and end that random sequence of decimal digits that way. It didn't take long to realize that the leading 1 and ending 0 prompts a conversion from the decimal system into binary one. If the 91-characters of the numerical string is regarded as one decimal number, then it can be converted into a binary number - which is a number composed only of ones and zeroes.
http://lam-ictx.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/3/2/23323570/2399808_orig.png

The decimal-to-binary conversion delivered what was somewhat anticipated: it became apparent that it changed pure disorder into order.

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640 (decimal) = 100111000011111000000111111100000000111111111000000
000011111111111000000000000111111111111100000000000
000111111111111111000000000000000011111111111111111
000000000000000000111111111111111111100000000000000
000000111111111111111111111000000000000000000000011
111111111111111111111000000000000000000000000 (binary)

The 1, 2, 3, 4, ... pattern in the binary string is apparent and holds to the end of the string. Just make a space between the digits whenever 1 changes into 0 or vice versa and then count the number of the characters.

1
00
111
0000
11111


and so on.

The binary string is 300 characters long, so the chance that the digits would be organized in the natural sequence pattern (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...) is 1 in 2^300, or 1 in 10^90, which are obviously not negotiable and completely debunker-proof odds .

And so, what initially appeared as a purely random event turned out to be a complete opposite after an implied adjustment via the numerical conversion.

There is a substantial difference between the government interest in the UFO and the popular interest shared among UFO enthusiasts. The government knows that UFO is a real nightmare and so there would be further inquiry. In this case, the implication that the crashed UFO was a deliberate act on the part of the ET's had to be elevated to a hypothesis - the idea needed to be tested whether it was true or false. That means another look at the string of the decimal digits was due.

If the decimal-to-binary conversion proved that the decimal string wasn't a random choice of digits, then another "binary look" at the decimal string followed.

(1)243246889395396(0)699776(0)758865366248834246775499(1)(1)333269(1)8485767(1)963339886(1)8592(1)9(0)(0)865(1)264(0)

An independent observer would immediately notice that some digits of the numerical string are enclosed in parentheses. But not any digits: the enclosure concerns only 1's and 0's. Why?

When explained the whole story behind the decimal numerical string and its development, he or she would surely suggest to separate those enclosed 1's and 0's to form another binary number. And that's what the government analysts did - they picked the 1's and 0's from left to right and made a binary number out of them:

1001111110010 (bin.)

Would that number have any meaning when converted into its decimal equivalent? That was a cardinal question.

1001111110010 (bin.) = 5103 (dec.)

The decimal number 5103 was familiar only to the government UFO investigators. That number was a compressed date: 5/1/03, or May 1, 2003; and that date coincided with the date of recovery of the crashed UFO wherein the curious strip with the string of decimal digits was found. Since the US government captured only one UFO in 2003, the chances that the number-date 5103 was just a coincidence was 1 in 365. Such odds are too high to assume otherwise. So, yes, the hypothesis that the ET's deliberately crashed one of their vehicles has passed the test. After all, the indication that something like that would be happening in the future dates back to the very complicated Roswell case.

As you see, the idea that the UFO traffic is essentially a random appearance is very likely an incorrect insight into the works, but it is not exactly easy to prove it, even though the proofs run on the mixture of curiosity and common sense. I'm positive that the folks at Harvard, Yale, MIT, you name it, would have to think real hard to show that

1243246889395396069977607588653662488342467754991133326918485767196333988618592190086512640 => May 1, 2003

If you think otherwise, send that implication problem to them.

Why would the ET's deliberately crashed some of their UFO's? Among the government investigators, the strongest speculative link leads here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/clifton-08.jpg

 
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 5   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 18th, 2017, 12:22pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 17th, 2017, 4:56pm, Swamprat wrote:
We all march to different drummers.

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Swamprat, MUFON informs me that your pic of what you sought was UFO has a rational explanation:

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 6   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 18th, 2017, 12:01pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 18th, 2017, 03:18am, purr wrote:
Travex, with the utmost effort I am able to follow the line of reasoning in your post, but I don't see how it describes objective reality.

Well, it happens to be quite demanding case for an unprepared mind, and I questioned a couple of times my intention to go ahead and post it. But The Casebook Forum has an excellent text editor, and so I sort of save it there for myself.

As you mentioned the term "objective reality," it is miles away from the UFO research, because the subject belongs to the box labeled "Hypothesis." There has never been an objective reality near the topic of UFO. On the contrary - many UFO attendees call themselves "believers." That description and "objective reality" move in fact in opposite direction. That's another reason why my scribble is so... well, alien looking.

In my post, I used the term "very likely" to stay abreast with a level of confidence called "hypothesis." You will hardly succeed breaking the shell of objective reality on the two pillars of UFO interest, meaning the Kenneth Arnold sighting and the Roswell case. Those are data based just on witness(es) accounts - no photos - as much as the Iowa sighting of 1939 is.

Similar situation exists in the world of cosmology and particle physics. If the Standard Model falls short of explaining some principal questions, a different approach to the puzzle is considered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

But such an effort solely based on "numerology" will meet with criticism, as it happened. Some even argue that the theory plainly failed, mainly because it cannot be verified experimentally.
http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2016/01/string_theory_has_failed_as_a_scientific_theory.html

I'm positive that a mere reverence to the alleged UFO manifestation will not open the door to the objective reality that you've mentioned, and which is necessary to show to the world that the UFO is indeed what is now believed to be. For that to happen, you would need an active participation from the hypothetical ET's, but you won't very, very likely get it. After all these long years, there has been no single instance of UFO manifestation that would move things closer to the objective reality spot. Why would that be different in the future?

Speaking of which...

It is not easy at all to do the math, but the odds are broadly in favor of the conclusion that the ETs knew beforehand that Adolf Hitler would attack Poland on September 1, 1939, which has became an objective reality that even Hitler didn't know back July 1939 - the date of the attack wasn't firmly set yet. That gives the alleged ET's presence a rational purpose of being around, e.g. secretly informing someone here about significant events that are scheduled to take place in the future.
 
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 7   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 11:40pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 17th, 2017, 4:56pm, Swamprat wrote:
I don't presume to tell anyone what does and does not belong on a forum such as UFO Casebook. We all march to different drummers. As for me, it is threads like this that are the bane of Casebook. Threads like this are insulting to those folks who have a genuine interest in the UFO phenomenon.


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Swamprat, it seems that the UFO on the pic you've pasted issues some kind of radiation, but the shape of the ET craft is really strange - I can't really tell if it is a UFO or if it can be explained rationally.

I wanted to ask you... What does it mean that "genuine interest in UFO?" Can you give me a couple of other examples?
 
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 8   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 4:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
Here is the way the ET's designed the UFO sighting described in the NUFORC report:

The railroad tracks are the way for a train to get from one populated place to another. Use your keypad to render the tracks. The symbol for railroad tracks, which are two parallel lines, is usually located in the upper-left part of your keypad:

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Now we are ready to take the train from September to One:

9=1 (1939) huh

As you see, our intention was thwarted by the fact that 9 doesn't equal 1. Laying down railroad tracks, symbolized by the "equals to" character, between 9 and 1 would be a gross mistake. But we can make another trip - no math error this time:

7=7 (1939)

Of course, 7=7 is just another way of writing the date 7/7, or July 7, which is the date remembered by the witness as the one when she saw the very strange object hovering over the local railroad tracks. And that's the reason why the sighting by the railroad tracks couldn't take place on 9/1/1939 when Germany attacked Poland: 9 really doesn't equal 1. In other words, the railroad tracks = leading from 9 to 1 couldn't be laid down due to the inequality between 9 and 1, and so the ET's had to choose another month and day or move away from the railroad tracks. They chose the former and you'll see why.

Can we also render the railroad tracks with respect to WHERE, that means with respect to Iowa?

Yes, not only we can, but we need to. It is the first letter I in the name of the state that comes handy. 'I' is a straight line, so we can easily use it to render the railroad tracks:

II

You need to come into grip with the fact that the ET's are extremely imaginative guys, so don't be surprised by the following puzzle: The train follows the tracks until it reaches a train station where it stops. Is the station on the right side of the tracks or on the left side?

1) II here?
or
2) here? II


How the heck can anyone tell?

The ET's can. Find the name of the train station first and that tells you its location alongside the tracks.

Are you kidding me? What name? Iowa? But that's a name of an entire state!

The name of the station are word(s) that you create according to the time circumstances, and the time circumstances are the year 1939 when the sighting took place. If the name of the train station is World War, then the station must be on the left side of the tracks:

War World II

Or was there more significant event in 1939 than the beginning of the deadliest war in human history?

So remember: When the aliens see an expression like World War II, the II part can remind them of a road or railroad tracks. Then, they would use the similarity as a base for the construction of a UFO sighting, like that one in Iowa back in July 1939.

Does that all mean that the event described in the report was indeed a real UFO manifestation?

No. At this moment, you can only assume that it was likely real, because there are other logical options for the date (month and day) of the sighting.

But wait! What if the woman didn't look out the window? In that case the whole event would go unnoticed and we would never learn anything!

There are always ways and means to prevent that happening:

Once in the middle of the night she sat up in bed and felt compelled to look out her window.

Aha! She felt compelled... Wasn't Adolf Hitler compelled to attack Poland back in 1939 as well?

Clearly, it would be a mistake to entirely disregard the UFOlklore.
http://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/nazi-ufo-flying-saucer.jpg

We can find out more about that in Part 4. Or wouldn't be better to preserve the image of the ET's as insane space nuts who keep showing up here and there for no apparent reason? After all, that option is much easier on "the CPU" in our heads.

 
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 9   General UFO & Alien Board / ?FOIA - Part 3  on: Aug 17th, 2017, 3:41pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
FOIA is the abbreviation of Freedom of Information Act. The UFO writers liked to peek into the government files released to the public through FOIA to support the idea that space visitors have been snooping around our planet. Those were the government files and the appeal to the authority as an argument really counts.
https://www.archives.gov/foia/ufos.html

The government doesn't seem to be overly excited about the idea of a possible alien presence, because the ET's can reveal to the public any government secrets - there is really no way of hiding anything before them. To reveal one deep secret, the aliens used a special key that opened another "FOIA file" to select a rather important UFO sighting, which the Project Blue Book doesn't mention. The key looks like this:

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You place the U-key in front of FOIA, and the magnetic attraction will do the rest in two easy steps.

1) U <--- FOIA
2) UFO IA


By attracting FO, the U-key breaks apart FOIA and that opens the acronym right in the middle.

Closed: FOIA
Open: FO IA


That's a neat trick, but there is nothing in there - there is just an empty space between O and I!

We can't see anything, because we, as very often, fail to see the "overall picture" and that is

UFO IA: UFO=Unidentified Flying Object, IA=Iowa

And off to Iowa we go to see that special UFO...
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlia.html

Oh, dear! Which sighting do the aliens mean?

If you take into account the expression UFO IA, its obvious that the particular UFO sighting got something to do with IA. The expression UFO IA actually defines the particular UFO as IA. So if you happen to see a UFO in Iowa as it splits into two parts

IA ---> I A

you know that the aliens figured out how the postal symbol IA for Iowa came about:

IA ----> I?A ----> IowaA

It also means that the particular UFO sighting we are looking for is defined as I A with a space between I and A.

That's all very nice, but the defining term I A doesn't appear in the NUFORC long list of UFO sightings in Iowa - there is not one incidence of it on the entire page!

Well, sapiens, what are you going to do now?

That's a silly question. We quit the search. Duh.

But before we quit, we can at least separate the special from the ordinary in some other way, not to look completely stupid in the eyes of the whole universe. If you look at the NUFORC webpage, you see that the majority of the text is black, but there is a special exemption: the leftmost data column is printed blue. Moreover, if you click on it, there will be a page redirection. This special blue column is made of numbers - these are the dates in which the various sighting took place.

Too bad that the definition is made of two spaced letters I and A instead of two spaced numbers. We could have used the special blue column to search for the special sighting by date; we could have named our search for the special UFO "Project Blue Column" instead of "Project Blue Book." Oh, well...

Please note that there is a profound difference between the ETs and us: they never quit; they don't have that word in the dictionary...

So, you smart ET asses, how does it go, then?

You get the idea from Part 1 and Part 2, the latter not being a separate thread...

If letters are not of any use, but numbers could be, you can convert the letters into numbers using the most natural way and that's the alphabetical order. So, if I=9 and A=1, then a conversion is due.

I A ----alphabetical order----> 9 1

Since Iowa is in the USA where the MDY date format is used, it follows that

(9 1) = (September 1)

Now you check the blue column to see if there is only one instance where a UFO was observed on September 1.

As you see in Part 1, that's not the case: there have been more than one sighting like that in Iowa. Is it possible to select from the special September 1 list the unique UFO sighting?

Unfortunately, there would be no near consensus upon the attempt to tell the things apart...

In this situation, quitting the search is not an embarrassing option. Just take the case to the Nobel Prize winners and they fold up too. But before we go, we should consider an easier case and attempt to select a significant September 1 in human history, so there would be no or a little disagreement. How about

September 1, 1939?

On that date, the most terrifying war in modern human history broke out, claiming some eighty million human lives. So it's hard to argue that the year 1939 wasn't sadly special as well. And now... Click! And we are done:

Mother sees UFO above railroad tracks in 1939.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/045/S45006.html

There is only one sighting listed for the year 1939 in Iowa, and only one means unique. From the above, you can see that Iowa, 1939 is the same as September 1, 1939, courtesy the postal code IA.

(Iowa, 1939) ---->( IowA, 1939) ---->(I A) ----> (9 1) ----> (September 1, 1939)

Wait a minute! The date of the listed sighting is 7/7/1939. It should have taken place on 9/1/1939, no?

The surprising answer is "NO!"

See, that woman could make the story up, or there could be possibly some other explanation to what she saw. Her son could have made the story up as well. The aliens are
pretty much aware of these options and need to adjust the circumstances of the sighting the way there would be a coordination between the principal data of the sighting. See, if a person reports a UFO by making the event up, all the data he or she come up with would lack any coordination - the data would be in essence randomly chosen. In the case of a true UFO sighting, the data will be coordinated. Here is the part of the description to focus on:

She said she could tell there was something large there although she really couldn't see anything, just a huge black oval "space" where there were no stars or anything else visible. She could tell it had a shape and it hovered over the tracks for about 10 minutes and made absolutely no sound. She never saw anything like it again but clearly never forgot about it.

Note that there is a special word in the excerpt. It is the only one enclosed in quotation marks, and the word is space. As a matter of fact, the preceding adjective is "oval," so you can render it as ( ) - the space between I and A:

I( )A

Are we on the right track? Let's read it once more:

She said she could tell there was something large there although she really couldn't see anything, just a huge black oval "space" where there were no stars or anything else visible. She could tell it had a shape and it hovered over the tracks for about 10 minutes and made absolutely no sound. She never saw anything like it again but clearly never forgot about it.

Very likely we are...

At this point, it would be very helpful to adjust the story, so the woman would go out and talk to the ETs.

What are you doing here?

What does it look like, ma'm? We're looking at the railroad tracks.

You never saw railroad tracks before?

We did; we just examine them looking for cracks. We try to be helpful as much as we can. The safety of mankind is a thing very close to our heart.


The fact that such a conversation never took place doesn't change the situation that the peculiar object, which the woman saw, was hovering above railroad tracks. If the object was a real UFO effect, then there had to be a reason for its position above the railroad tracks.

So let's try something else for a change: let's attempt to find a reason to the activity of that alleged UFO that the woman claimed seeing back in 1939 in Iowa. See, UFO is about an intelligent extraterrestrial life, and intelligence is also about reason. It follows that where is no reason, there is no intelligence and consequently no credible UFO story no matter what the UFO bishops have tried to push through.

In the next post, we'll find out that the woman was very unlikely to make the story up. . . .
 
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 10   General UFO & Alien Board / Why Do Some UFOs Split into Two Pieces?  on: Aug 12th, 2017, 3:47pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
We wouldn't even find out about this effect if it were not for the ETs who have the habit of keeping their "craft" nicely illuminated, so the earthlings wouldn't miss the show after the sunset. Obviously such a display has its own purpose similar to the one of a signaling flashlight. Some four hundred years ago, people ignorant of electricity and the Morse code would surely wonder about the nature of "the devil's light." However, the chances that they would ever figure out the Morse code watching the light pulses and could read the message are virtual zero. So why would the ET's even bother doing something similar?

That's because they include heavy clues how to extract their messages.

Here is an example of such a clue:

Any object can be rendered as a character string, like XXXXX, &&&&&&&, 123456, Y67ccDA$g9G, and so on. Let's consider object XXXX. You look by chance at the nighttime sky and see something peculiar - something that is not a usual guest to the p.m. skies. As you watch the well-illuminated object, it suddenly splits into two comparable parts. You can render the change this way:

Before splitting: XXXX
After splitting: XX XX


If you organize the change as a sequence of events, you get this:

XXXX......XX XX

Does that rendering remind you of something?

If it doesn't, you can include a slash to indicate that object XXXX was divided into two parts:

XXXX( )XX/XX

If that still doesn't ring the bell - well, there are other fun things to do in life...

So what could be that rendering reminiscent of?

Here is an option:

XXXX( )XX/XX => 1947( )06/24

A date in the YearMonthDay (YMD) format?

The YMD (or YDM) format is actually the UFO....? (UFOrmat) that relates to dates.

This idea needs to be tested. Suppose that a family goes on a trip to Yellowstone where, on the 4th day of the month, shoots a video of an object in the sky splitting into two parts. How would you render the object?

There is one unique letter in the name Yellowstone and that's the first letter, because its the only capital letter in the name. Since the sighting took place on the 4th day of the month, you copy letter Y four times to get the rendition (definition) of the object in its solid form.

YYYY

Since Y stands for the year, the splitting of YYYY into YY YY calls for splitting some year into two parts. Let's try it with the current year.

YYYY is to YY YY as 2017 is to 20 17

Well done. But what is the meaning of that split numbers 20 and 17? It cannot indicate month and day, because there are only twelve months in the year.

Here comes the ever-clever solution: You can extract the rest of the full date via WHERE. The extraction depends on the symbol that you stick between 20 and 17 to fill the space. Since "and" also means "+", you can make the substitution.

20 and 17 -----> 20 + 17

Since 20 + 17 = 37, WHERE=37.

It all makes perfectly sense - WHERE indicates some location that has been assigned number 37. Had the number been 51, like WHERE=51, the ET's would have surely referred to the notorious Area 51. But the split year 2017 returns WHERE=37. What the heck is 37?

Keep thinking in the terms of s p l i t t i n g and experiment a bit. See, you can also get 37 by splitting object 5013, this time using "minus" as a separator:

5013 ---> 50 - 13 = 37

In other words, you split USA into two parts: the 13 original states and those 37 that followed. Now the rest of the full date is easy: get that 13 in terms of Day & Month. Here is the solution:

Split Year: 20 + 17 = 37 (the number of the follow up states)
Day&Month: 21 - 8 = 13 (the number of original states)

where 21-8 means 21. August.

Hold on, right now! There is an obvious ambiguity in the whole scheme, because there are other options how to arrive at 13. Here are a few Day - Month = 13 examples:

13 = 22 - 9 or 22. September
13 = 20 - 7 or 20. July
13 = 19 - 6 or 19. June


all the way to 14. January (14 - 1 = 13)

So why is the solution 21. August (21 - 8 = 13) unique?

The reason is that 2017, 21. August marks a significant relation between {WHEN: 21. August 2017} and {WHERE: USA (13+37 states)}

Really? But I don't see any significance in it.

Well, the reason why you can't see the significance, dear earthling, is because it got too dark to see anything, and that's because the sun quit - right in the middle of the day:

The so-called Great American Total Solar Eclipse will darken skies all the way from Oregon to South Carolina, along a stretch of land about 70 miles (113 kilometers) wide. People who descend upon this "path of totality" for the big event are in for an unforgettable experience.
https://www.space.com/33797-total-solar-eclipse-2017-guide.html

Aha! Hmm. Well... Okay.

So here is the special link between WHEN and WHERE once again.

21. August ---> 21-8 (natural syntax) ---> (21 - 8 = 13) ---> (13 original states)
2017 ---> UFOsplit ---> (20 17) ---> (20+17) ---> (20+17=37) ---> (37 follow-up states)

This WHEN/WHERE arrangement is really a cool coincidence and serves mainly as a template for significant earthquake prediction ET messages. But is it a coincidence or did the ETs pushed a bit to make it happen?

Remember that when Kenneth Arnold spotted those nine strange objects back in 1947, the USA was made of only 48 states and so the "Great US Solar Eclipse Coincidence" wouldn't have materialize had the count stayed that way. But to answer that, one needs to go back to the Roswell case and figure out what the ETs signaled there.

What? They signaled something? Like hell they did. The ET pilots were drunk, or fell asleep at the controls after the long inter-space journey failing to see a weather balloon in front of them. The collision send both their lovely saucer and the balloon down.
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 11   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 11th, 2017, 1:47pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 10th, 2017, 9:53pm, Nyx wrote:
I guess us "true believers" are getting so old that we just head into the sunset and dissolve from existence.

true believers ---> http://catholicphilly.com/media-files/2016/06/Council-of-Cardinals-1300px-1300x565.jpg

Why is it that the true believer in the middle wears a different outfit? It's white.

That's because Roman Catholicism has hierarchy and the highest true believer of them all is the pope. So there is a distinction in the dress code.

Aha. That means Roman Catholics are like the Western UFOlics. They have the pope as well.

They do?

Yes. But that pope seems to dress ordinary way.
https://i1.wp.com/www.ufointernationalproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/nick_pope_rs292x2171.jpg
See?

LOL. No, that's not the pope, but Pope - Nick Pope.

So if Pope is his nick, what is his true name?

Geezus, you've been around this planet for more than a half of a century and never learned anything about earthling's names? The first, the last...

...and the middle. That means Pope is his middle nick, because the pope is in the middle.
http://catholicphilly.com/media-files/2016/06/Council-of-Cardinals-1300px-1300x565.jpg
Right?

You know what? Keep flying around another half a century and maybe you figure it out.

 
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 12   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 10th, 2017, 1:42pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 10th, 2017, 07:17am, skizicks wrote:

What were you looking for when you dropped in that first time? Was it a discussion on music? A place to swap opinions on politics? Or pollution?

The inclusion of the off-topic subjects runs parallel with the expansion of themes within the community of UFO writers - themes such as the conspiracy theory involving alleged government cover-ups and so on. The UFO writers needed to attract more readers to boost the sale of their books, because the sole debilitating issue of whether a particular sighting is a real manifestation of intelligent ET life or not - with either conclusion not having the slightest impact on the silly task of proving to the world that the PhD's at SETI are really a bunch of incapable fools - would have driven the subject of UFO into a speedy extinction. That effort to extend the life span of interest in UFO through such diversification has finally run out of steam; the issues involved became over the long years boringly repetitive for just too many attendees.

There is an active ingredient in the whole mix and that is the believed-in ETs themselves. They control the situation; it's up to them whether they would ever purposely create such a condition that there would be no doubt whatsoever that an observed effect(s) cannot be man made, including a hoax, or be attributed to the nature. The problem is that they are not sticking around this planet to prove anything to anyone - they are here for the sole purpose of showing up here and there, and there and here, and back and forth they move around occasionally crashing when the process of splitting their craft into various parts goes awry. They keep flying their craft while changing their colors and shapes prompting the final conclusion: We can't come up with conclusive evidence that the ETs are a real article; we can only prove that they are apparently nutty guys.

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 13   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 8th, 2017, 09:19am
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
on Aug 8th, 2017, 07:09am, thelmadonna wrote:
Dont believe all you read!!!

Except what is written in the UFO books, right? laugh

There must be some reason for the OP bemoaning the state of affairs.

Interest in UFOs waning
https://www.dawn.com/news/188976

UFOlks are not the only ones with corroded faith - there are others.

An Honest Look at Catholicismís Decline
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/01/an-honest-look-at-catholicisms-decline/

What to do, what to do...?

Long Decline In Attendance Led To Catholic Church Mergers
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-catholic-church-shifting-population-20170511-story.html






 
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 14   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Have we lost our way?  on: Aug 7th, 2017, 1:37pm
Started by skizicks | Post by travex
UFO Interest In The U.K. Is Dead, Or Soon Might Be, Says Leading British Paranormal Organization
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/ufology-is-dead-or-it-soon-will-be_n_2084897.html

Wood speculates that, at least in the U.K., thereís a possibility that within 10 years, UFOs may become a dead issue.

Part of the problem is that it seems like most believers have more faith than evidence in the idea that aliens are coming and going, and we canít do anything about it.


believers---> http://deacondance.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bishops.jpg

search for evidence ---> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dZ4m5h3TL.jpg
 
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 15   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 6th, 2017, 1:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
?FOIA - Part 2

The expression ?FOIA doesn't make sense, because if you google it up, the search engine fails to find a match. And that concludes Part 2.

Wait! Can we settle for less? It's true that there is no match to be found, but the first near match that the search engine came up with is FOIA.gov - Freedom of Information Act. So at least we know that FOIA is an acronym and not some nonsense word.

Okay, but there is that leading question mark added and there are no abbreviations with question marks in front of them. So the whole expression is a nonsense and that concludes Part 2.

Hold on for a sec. The inclusion of a question mark doesn't have to be nonsensical - it can have some purpose. Here is an example:

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There is no W?RD in the dictionary, but this one is:

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What if the question mark in ?FOIA is a prompt that asks us to add one more letter?

Well, maybe. But which letter? Any letter?

Very likely not. After the selection and addition of the letter, the result should make sense. I think the best thing would be to create a list of all possibilities - we can try adding letters from A to Z and then google up each case if something meaningful shows up...

AFOIA
BFOIA
CFOIA
DFOIA
EFOIA
FFOIA
GFOIA
HFOIA
IFOIA
JFOIA
KFOIA
LFOIA
MFOIA
NFOIA
OFOIA
PFOIA
QFOIA
RFOIA
SFOIA
TFOIA
UFO IA <---- wtf?
VFOIA
WFOIA
XFOIA
YFOIA
ZFOIA


Oops! There is a mistake in the list. Right there, when the question mark got replaced by letter U, the whole thing UFOIA split into two parts: UFO and IA.

This is really a peculiar mistake, because both parts UFO and IA happen to have a meaning: UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ufo

and IA is a postal abbreviation for Iowa.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ia?s=t

In this view, there is a chance that the mistake of splitting UFOIA into UFO and IA was a deliberate mistake, which the ETs love to do. So let's visit the National UFO Reporting Center to find out if someone in Iowa caught a glimpse of the ETs splitting their advanced craft into two parts right in the air without that thing crashing down.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlia.html

Aah, here we go... There was indeed a unique case like that reported.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/061/S61663.html

1993 Evening Ufo sighting over Ottumwa, Iowa. Singular object splits in two, lights fly across sky.

Hmm. But that report could have been made up, or the effect observed could have had a rational explanation with the ETs not having the slightest idea that the Freedom of Information Act, which some of the UFO cardinals love so much, even exists!

Is there any way to figure the reality out? What are the chances that the 1993 sighting in Iowa was solely designed to model the split of UFOIA into UFO and IA, with the implication that the UFO effects are in fact a secret communication between the ETs and Homo sapiens?

In order to increase the chances that the implication is true, the ET's would have to coordinate the TIME with the LOCATION of the sighting with respect to what was OBSERVED to begin with. So here are the "tags": 12/19/1993, Ottumwa, Iowa, and the split of a single "object" into two parts.

One way to approach it is to design your own UFO sighting which refers to the Freedom of Information Act - FOIA - and compare the difference between your construction and the 1993 Iowa sighting description.

In Part 3 the ETs will use the UFOIA (the "UFO Information Act") to make an interesting disclosure...

 
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 16   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Metropolis, Illinois, 2 eclipses in 7 years  on: Aug 5th, 2017, 10:00am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 4th, 2017, 10:12pm, Nyx wrote:
Metropolis will have a solar eclipse in 2014, "holy superman".

http://wkrn.com/2017/08/04/metropolis-illinois-to-see-2-eclipse-events-in-7-years/

The center points of two spheres - the Sun and the Moon - define a straight line that intersects the earth surface during both total solar eclipses at one point, and the point is Makanda, IL - a village 53 miles NNW of Metropolis.

Total solar eclipses: The center lines of the paths of the solar eclipse of August 21, 2017, and the solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 will cross over Makanda. Tens of thousands of spectators are expected to flock to Makanda and surroundings to witness the 2017 eclipse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makanda

The sky will get dark during the eclipse and that would become an opportunity to mistaken a planet for a UFO - but there is no planet close enough to the earth at the time of both eclipses in 2017 and 2024.

The darkened sky that forms during solar eclipses is normally closed to UFO traffic, because too many people would see it, as thousands gather for the solar eclipse spectacle. But, according to the ET calendar, the eclipse day of August 21, 2017 falls on the Great Galactic Victory Day and because it is an ET holiday, UFOs won't operate anyway. cry

 
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 17   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 4th, 2017, 4:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 4th, 2017, 3:22pm, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

..Travex,

...But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?..

You tell us, you put it there.

HAL
INT21

I did, right after the question.

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?
..


What on earth are you talking about. Or are you simply taking the P*ss ?

HAL
INT21

You missed the rest, which explains that the misplacement of the question mark was very likely a deliberate act, because, unlike the cases involving misspelling, a letter omission, or typos like that, you don't find an example of such a mistake. Here it is once again:

The odds are against such a conclusion (that it is a normal mistake), because similar mistakes, like

?How many
or
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.


You have probably a difficulty to understand an example of a deliberate mistake, such as the ?FOIA. If the position of the question mark is not a mistake, then it is a deliberate act and the question is WHY? It's too bad that the word WHY is missing from the standard UFO research dictionary.

When the ET's see acronym FOIA (Freedom of Information act) they imagine letter U before FOIA right away, because UFOIA makes a funny coincidence - it is something special. (If you don't know why it is special, please stop reading any furher.) If they want to share it with us, they simply split UFOIA into two parts - UFO and IA - and off to Iowa they fly, because Iowa (symbol IA) is the only logical place to leave the message.

See, some folks don't give a damn about what the UFO bishops keep preaching; they want to hear the ET's side of the story too. That means those folks need to learn the way that the ETs speak.
 
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 18   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 4th, 2017, 08:04am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 3rd, 2017, 4:45pm, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

...But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?..

You tell us, you put it there.

HAL
INT21

I did, right after the question.

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?

The odds are against such a conclusion, because similar mistakes, like

?How many
or
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.




 
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 19   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 3rd, 2017, 11:05am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 3rd, 2017, 10:15am, Swamprat wrote:
?Travex, you either need to see a psychiatrist, or get a girlfriend.



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What makes you think so?
 
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 20   General UFO & Alien Board / ?FOIA - Part 1  on: Aug 3rd, 2017, 07:15am
Started by travex | Post by travex
The acronym in the title very likely stands for Freedom of Information Act, which "allows for the full or partial disclosure of previously unreleased information and documents controlled by the United States government."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_%28United_States%29

Note that there is a mistake in the syntax: the question mark appears on the wrong side; the question should read (What is) FOIA?

But is the erroneous placement of the question mark really a mistake?

The odds are against such a conclusion, because similar mistakes, like

?How many
or
?How much

are nearly impossible to find.

That means ?FOIA is very likely a deliberate mistake and therefore there must be a reason behind it.

One option that could explain the oddity is that the question mark on the left of F stands for an unknown letter, which would append the four-letter acronym. The choice of the letter may depend on the circumstances, so let's present a particular instance where FOIA can become very helpful in a particular way:
https://www.archives.gov/foia/ufos.html

Now, even a medieval monk wouldn't fail to solve the puzzle of the additional letter.

?FOIA = UFOIA

He wouldn't also fail to realize that UFOIA is a unique intersection of two acronyms: UFO and FOIA. This is really a peculiar coincidence not to be overlooked. We can now speculate that the ETs have their own Freedom of Information Act - UFOIA - which allows the earthlings to look into the purpose of various UFO activities.

So let's test the idea. For this purpose, the new acronym UFOIA becomes something that we see in the sky - something that prompts an observer to file a report with MUFON. As we watch the object, it suddenly splits into two parts, which is not in reality an
uncommon feature.

1) UFOIA
2) UFO IA


Wow! Look at that!

But does such a split make any sense?

It seems that it does, because the split forms two standalone acronyms - UFO and IA - with a meaningful relation between them.

UFO = "Unidentified Flying Object"
IA = "Iowa"


Here is the premise: If the ETs know about the special UFOIA acronym, there has to be a UFO sighting in Iowa that would refer to it. All we have to do is to check with the National UFO Reporting Center - State Report Index For IA.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlia.html

Oh, you gotta be kidding me! There are hundreds of reports aggregated!

Fortunately the ETs have developed a methodology how to reduce a long list of items. One simple method that selects the special from the ordinary is the WHERE to WHEN conversion. In this particular case, we convert the name of a location to the time. How is it done?

Well, in this case the two-letter symbol IA that stands for Iowa gets converted to numbers, which a date is made of, by using the alphabetical order. Since I is the 9th letter and A is the 1st letter, the conversion is simple.

1) Iowa ---> IA ---> 91 ---> any year ending on 91
or
2) Iowa ---> IA ---> 91 ---> 9/1 ---> September 1


There have been eight sightings in Iowa that meet condition (1) or (2) and those are the special sightings with respect to UFOIA.

But out of those, how does one select the unique one?

The standard human methodology is to consider only the "real" sightings, but with no photos included in many of the reports, this method has limited application.

One must realize that the ETs control the situation and if they want to refer to the UFOIA feature, they will adjust the circumstances of the sightings.

So far we have selected eight candidate sightings and that was done according to the WHEN criterion. It follows that some consideration must be given to the WHERE criterion. So here are the names of the locations where the sightings took place:

8/31/91 Councel Bluffs
9/1/16 Cedar Rapids
9/1/16 Marshalltown
9/1/05 Boone
9/1/78 Sioux City
9/1/72 Onawa
9/1/71 Humboldt
9/1/58 Perry


The list includes 5 one-word names and 3 two-word names. The strategy of further selection would now depend on a similar difference:

UFOIA = 'one acronym'
UFO IA = 'two acronyms'


Both UFO and IA are standalone acronyms with a meaning (Unidentified Flying Object and Iowa). Those two will join each other to form one acronym; that is, UFOIA.

UFO & IA = UFOIA

The ET's will select the location of the sighting accordingly - they will join two standalone words with a meaning to form the name of the location. In this case it is Marshalltown.

MARSHALL & TOWN = MARSHALLTOWN

But what does this sighting disclose, if the UFOIA - the ET version of Freedom of Information Act - is real? If it fails to disclose anything, then the whole UFOIA test fails too!

Well, the ETs disclosed from where the UFO observed in Marshalltown, IA took off: MARSHALLTOWN

But we want to know more than that and it means we need to find another unique item on the list by using a different criterion of choice. That one is really interesting - maybe shocking?

Let's close Part 1 with a commendation to the National UFO Reporting Center for maintaining its indispensable database.
 
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 21   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: E.T. is winning by the sheer number of reports  on: Jul 31st, 2017, 02:54am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 30th, 2017, 10:34pm, Nyx wrote:
Even NASA is having trouble explaining UFOs at the ISS.

The E.T.s seems to have even bigger trouble explaining UFOs near the ISS. Are they spying on the latest of man-made technology? What would they do without our know-how, right?

Let's better not test for the presence of reason in places where it is not appreciated at all - religion and reason don't like to sit beside each other. Speaking of which... How would you render "UFO at the ISS?"

1) UFO ISS
or
2) ISS UFO


The correct solution is important, because of the docking procedure.

1) UFOISS
or
2) ISSUFO

This, yet another, ET puzzle is actually not that easy to solve.

Quote:
E.T. wants to be seen and they are starting to force the hands of governments. E.T.s will win in the future.

The E.T.s got just enough of the government secrecy and decided to force a closure of three busy international airports by positioning UFOs around them, thereby creating hazardous conditions. With networks' TV cameras focused on the UFOs and with all three major airports completely shut down, the public screams for answers - what the heck is going on?

The problem is that the aliens are dumb enough not to figure out the above scenario in their effort to legitimize their presence around here. On the brighter side, they are smart enough to figure out how to travel effectively through the vastness of space. Sounds contradictory? Well, that's the way it is.

There is a possibility that the E.T.s did figure the brute-force option out, but aborted the operation upon the complaint from the National Transportation Safety Board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O%27Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting


 
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 22   General UFO & Alien Board / TRUM__ 45  on: Jul 18th, 2017, 8:26pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The UFO puzzle in the title was always easy to solve.

TRUM(AN) 45

That's because Harry Truman became POTUS in the 45th year of the past century. But no one paused for a sec to ponder the triviality of the puzzle. Not even Harry Truman himself, who seemed to be even pleased that his name was known beyond the reaches of the solar system. However, situation changed recently, because there is other option to the solution:

TRUM(P) 45

That's because Donald Trump is the 45th POTUS.

Now we have two names that are very similar, with TRUM being the identical parts and AN with P being the different parts.

It's apparent that TRUM stands for something that both presidents have in common, and according to UFO, it's this:

Harry Truman:
And as Truman met in July 1945 with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in Potsdam, Germany, to discuss the end of World War II in Europe, he made the decision to bring the ongoing war with Japan to an apocalyptic end by dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/truman-gave-go-ahead-bomb-hiroshima-after-touring-berlin-ruins-n580906

Donald Trump:
North Korea Threatened to Destroy New York With Nuclear Missiles Because of Trump's Twitter Fingers
http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-attack-new-york-nuclear-missile-claim-624662

Where is the UFO memo?

Right here: These NASA astronauts believe aliens have already contacted us ... Mitchell also alleged that UFOs had been seen above nuke bases and often disabled the missiles held within Cold War-era weapons silos.
http://nypost.com/2017/04/06/these-nasa-astronauts-believe-aliens-have-already-contacted-us/

TRUMan and TRUMp are very similar names and it looks that Trump would have to ponder in the future similar question to the one Truman did back in 1945: Nuke'em, or not to nuke'em?

By the simple logic of opposites, Trump will decide not to launch the nukes against North Korea. See the different parts of both names trumAN and trumP?

AN is the ending of the name of the country that Truman nuked.

Question: ___AN?
Answer: (JAP)AN


But P is the beginning of the capital city that Trump would have to attack.

Question: P_____?
Answer: P(YONGYANG)


Since the ending is the opposite of the beginning, Trump will make the opposite decision to the one that Truman made back in 1945.

The UFO evangelists never liked the link between A and B.

A: The 509 OG traces its history to the World War II 509th Composite Group (509 CG), which conducted the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, in August 1945.
Redesignated the 509th Bombardment Group, Very Heavy in 1946, the group was one of the original ten bombardment groups of Strategic Air Command. The unit was also the host organization at Roswell Army Airfield, New Mexico in July 1947 during the alleged Roswell UFO Incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Operations_Group

B: Mitchell also alleged that UFOs had been seen above nuke bases and often disabled the missiles held within Cold War-era weapons silos.
http://nypost.com/2017/04/06/these-nasa-astronauts-believe-aliens-have-already-contacted-us/

A_B strongly implies that the incident at Roswell wasn't an accident at all; that the aliens intentionally targeted the 509th Bombardment Group with its ties to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 
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 23   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The creepiest UFO report on the CIA website  on: Jul 17th, 2017, 9:03pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 17th, 2017, 6:27pm, Nyx wrote:
Religion is not my " thing", but the Bible seems to hint towards UFOs in certain Bible stories.

In Genesis 19, Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt after she looked back at Sodom.

Sounds like the Russian soldiers' story.

A direct reference to the organic-to-anorganic material conversion would require 26 soldiers turned to stone, not 23.

But Lotís wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
Genesis 19:26

If someone can turn biological material into a limestone in a sec, that someone can't be exactly stupid to make vague references. But a loose link between the biblical account and the alien encounter does exist via Genesis 19:26.

So let's do some "turning."

1926 ---> 1692

1692 is the only logical option to rearrange the digits of the particular verse and the chapter, because it leads not to salt pillars but stone pillars - in Russia:

Sources about the completion of the first Stone Bridge are contradictory. The most widely accepted version attributes it to Patriarch Filaret, who picked up the job in 1682; year of completion is either 1687 or 1692.
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=usersrecentposts&user=travex

The aliens made sure that the semi-fictitious story would end up inside the CIA database to undermine the appeal to authority, which the cardinals of UFO religion have used frequently to legitimize the existence of "miracles."
 
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 24   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The creepiest UFO report on the CIA website  on: Jul 17th, 2017, 01:39am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 15th, 2017, 8:44pm, Nyx wrote:
In 1993, 23 Russian soldiers were turned to stone after a UFO was shot down by a Russian surface to air missile in Siberia.

Ufologists have pondered why this report is on the official CIA website.

If there is an ounce of truth in this report, alien weapons are terrifying.

http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/latest-news/23-soldiers-turned-stone-ufo-shot-cia-report-confirms-website/

The event was designed to remove an uncertainty from a part of Russian history.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Vsehsvyatsky_stone_bridge._End_of_XVII_century_Moscow.jpg

Firstly, try to identify the following sequence.

2, 3, 5, ...

Since 2, 3, and 5 are first three prime numbers, the sequence could be the progression of prime numbers, which continue without a bound - there are infinitely many of them.

But in the next development, the sequence stopped at prime number 1993. Why?

Look at the difference:

Before: 2 3 5 ...

After: 23 5 ... 1993.


You see that the first two primes merged forming another prime number - 23 - and that probably caused the sequence to stop at 1993, which happens to be the year the hard-to-believe event took place.

You also see that 5 refers to the number of aliens, and 23 to the number of affected Russian soldiers.

...and five short humanoids with "large heads and large black eyes" emerged from it.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005517761.pdf

Since 2+3=5, the merging of 2 and 3 into 23 should be described in the report:

... after freeing themselves from the debris, the aliens came close together and then "merged into a single object ..."
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005517761.pdf

The encounter could have easily taken place in other prime year apart from 1993. Why did it take place exactly in 1993?

That's because 1993 is the 301st prime number, and that takes you back in time to the year of 1692,

1993 - 301 = 1692,

and that's the correct year.

Sources about the completion of the first Stone Bridge are contradictory. The most widely accepted version attributes it to Patriarch Filaret, who picked up the job in 1682; year of completion is either 1687 or 1692.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshoy_Kamenny_Bridge#Bolshoy_Kamenny_Bridge_.281692.2C_demolished.29

Remember that the aliens turned the soldiers into stone, otherwise the message would be hard to read.

At that very instant, 23 soldiers who had watched the phenomenon turned into... stone poles.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005517761.pdf

Here is another question that the encounter brought about: Were the folks living back in Stone Age as much gullible as we are?

 
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 25   Recent UFO and other Paranormal News / Re: Strange Illinois Report  on: Jul 14th, 2017, 4:32pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
Quote:
However, if a photo winds up in the MUFON database, then it deserves a second look, because the aliens will create certain circumstances leading to the identification of the effect, providing that the brief description contradicts the expected.

What second look?

Well, we need to test the hypothesis that the aliens messed with the smoke ring causing its premature disappearance.

Firstly, here is a seemingly impossible question: A UFO was reported in one state. A similarly looking UFO was reported in another state. Which state was it?

How could one possibly tell?

The aliens have been flying their saucers around here for decades, haven't they?

The smoke ring is a good example of how one can make an "educated guess." This particular report comes from Illinois. In which state can you expect a similar event?

The answer depends on answering a question regarding the way we get from one state to another. One way, a very particular, is to use an interstate highway. Since the MUFON report includes coordinates of the place of the Illinois sighting, you can find the spot on the map and look around. What is the nearest interstate highway to that spot?

The map says it is Interstate 24.

The aliens will use this info to come up with two solutions: the real and the imaginary.

The real: Interstate 24 leads from Illinois to only one state - Tennessee. The circumstances find exactly the place in Tennessee where you pull over.

Twisted smoke ring photographed during a pyrotechnics show at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, a four day annual event first held in 2002. The location of the festival is a 2.8 km≤ (700 acre) farm in Manchester, Tennessee, about 100 km (60 miles) southeast of Nashville.
http://www.caelestia.be/VO-RI-08.html

The imaginary: the aliens will use the number of the interstate highway, in this case 24, to link it with a state which joined the Union as the 24th state. Since the 24th state is Missouri, we drive there.

on Jul 9th, 2017, 11:36am, Swamprat wrote:

After talking with friends, a similar object was seen in south-east Missouri on the same day, about 70 miles from our sighting location.


Now pay special attention to the common denominator.

Twisted smoke ring photographed during a pyrotechnics show at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, a four day annual event first held in 2002. The location of the festival is a 2.8 km≤ (700 acre) farm in Manchester, Tennessee, about 100 km (60 miles) southeast of Nashville.

After talking with friends, a similar object was seen in south-east Missouri on the same day, about 70 miles from our sighting location.

Both location descriptions include the direction south-east. Why? Why was that "object" in both cases observed S-E of a given location?

Hmm. God knows why.

Actually that's not a bad answer. God is held omniscient and maybe he can help.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

Aha! S is the first and E is the last letter of a word, isn't it?

S(.......)E ?

If we figure out what word it is, we will learn what that object seen in Illinois in reality was.

S(nak)E ?

No. Try again.

S(ubmarin)E ?

Nope.
Leopooooold! Wheeere aaaare youuuu?
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/defc7c2dabdbf4168c6842901edef82a.jpg

Oh no! Let me think...
S(mok)E !!!

That's right Mr. Randle.
Leopooooold!

What is that? You said that the answer was correct; that the object observed in Illinois was smoke.

Yes, the answer is "smoke," but Leopold is hungry.

OMG! Aaaaah! (crunch...crunch...crunch...)

 
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 26   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 10:48pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 11th, 2017, 03:29am, carolnistri wrote:
Travek,how do you know that?

I'm not sure what you are asking me. Can you be more specific?
 
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 27   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: How to Read UFO Sightings  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 7:12pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 22nd, 2017, 7:58pm, travex wrote:
On March 27, 1977, two Boeing 747 passenger jets collided on the runway at Los Rodeos Airport (now Tenerife North Airport), on the Spanish island of Tenerife, Canary Islands. The crash killed 583 people, making it the deadliest accident in aviation history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster

That terrible plane crash happened in 1977, in the year that marked the 30th anniversary of an event that has played a significant part in the UFO history: the alleged alien craft crashing near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

The decimal system we use is particular to the anniversaries with numbers ending with zero - those mark a decade. In this respect, after 30 comes 40, and so the 40th anniversary of the horrific Tenerife crash falls on this year.

The question is: Would the aliens observe this anniversary the same way they did back in 1977, when they purposely let the Man's activities unattended?"

As it turned out, this time they interfered on behalf of air travel safety and didn't let us screw up all the way to the tragic end like it happened in Tenerife.

SAN FRANCISCO ó In what one aviation expert called a near-miss of what could have been the largest aviation disaster ever, an Air Canada pilot on Friday narrowly avoided a tragic mistake: landing on the San Francisco International Airport taxiway instead of the runway.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/10/exclusive-sfo-near-miss-might-have-triggered-greatest-aviation-disaster-in-history/

 
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 28   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 5:02pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:17am, Swamprat wrote:
Sighh....... I'm sorry I ever posted that picture...... sad

It doesn't go like that. It's supposed to read
And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
Genesis 6:6

Let me see the Bible you were reading from...

https://img.fantasticfiction.com/images/x0/x1439.jpg

Hmm. That figures. Heresy, nothing but heresy - no evidence whatsoever. You must go back to the True Word of God:

Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earthóto every nation, tribe, language and people.
Revelation 14:6

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Date of the Sighting 14:6:2017


 
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 29   Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence / Re: If It Is There, We Don't See It Yet  on: Jul 11th, 2017, 01:50am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 9th, 2017, 4:13pm, travex wrote:
If there was a universe of a comparable size and age nearby ours, it would appear as a distant galaxy.

Here is a picture of the most distant galaxy ever observed.

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And here is the link to the related article:
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/03/most-distant-galaxy-hubble-breaks-cosmic-distance-record
 
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 30   Recent UFO and other Paranormal News / Re: Strange Illinois Report  on: Jul 10th, 2017, 6:07pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jul 10th, 2017, 12:28pm, Swamprat wrote:
The consensus seems to be that these types of phenomenon are the result of fireworks. Could be. This particular sighting was on July 1st, but there WERE a lot of early fireworks because of the long weekend.

That's a rational speculation backed by a photo of a similar effect for which the cause has been explained and factually confirmed: http://www.caelestia.be/VO-RI-08.html

However, if a photo winds up in the MUFON database, then it deserves a second look, because the aliens will create certain circumstances leading to the identification of the effect, providing that the brief description contradicts the expected.

Quote:
Summary: Object hovering over woods then disappeared with no trace.

The smoke caused by a firework dissipates; it doesn't just disappear. The former way into the absence would clearly indicate to the viewer that the peculiar shape in the sky is nothing but smoke and no report to MUFON would be made.

The date of the sighting is an example of things that disappear, but can be found later hiding.

The date of the sighting was 1. July, or 1 7.

Now you see it: 1 7
Now you don't:


As you ponder the disappearance, you come across present year.

2017

Why is it so that the 17 part appears thicker?

Aah, you shall fool me not... That missing 1 and 7 landed on top of 17, thinking that no one would notice. A simple experiment supports the explanation.

Before: 2017
After: 2017 1 7


Since 2017 1 7 means 2017, 1. July, this day is a unique day of 2017 based on the above circumstance.

But that means not every 4th of July is the same. Every century, there is only one instance where 4 and 7 can hide into the last two digits of the year. The last time it happened was in 1947.

Before: 1947
After: 1947 4 7


Back in 1947, the aliens loaded a flying saucer with fireworks to join in and observe the special, once-in-a century 4th of July. But the fireworks accidentally exploded near Roswell, New Mexico and the explosion tore the flying saucer into pieces, which were recovered by the personnel of the 509th Operations Group. 509? That's mighty suspicious - the link between WHEN and WHO - isn't it?

Since the sighting in Illinois took place on 2017 1 7, one should take a second look at it...

 
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 31   Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence / If It Is There, We Don't See It Yet  on: Jul 9th, 2017, 4:13pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
What we don't see?

Another universe.

If there was a universe of a comparable size and age nearby ours, it would appear as a distant galaxy. The problem is that we haven't observed each and every galaxy that belongs to our universe - the number of galaxies is a mere estimation.

The estimate of how many galaxies there are in the universe is done by counting how many galaxies we can see in a small area of the sky. This number is then used to guess how many galaxies there are in the entire sky.
https://www.universetoday.com/36610/how-many-galaxies-have-we-discovered/

The detection of light whose source is another universe could be initially puzzling to the astronomers who would assume a galaxy.
http://hubblesite.org/reference_desk/faq/answer.php.id=45&cat=galaxies

Unfortunately, the birth of a universe doesn't follow the birth of a supernova - the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't in reverse - so the excitement of seeing another universe just forming wouldn't materialize. But evidence of another universe would be still exciting to the astronomers.

Detection of other universes before they form is a life-saver, because universes expire one way or the other and you need to find another universe to "recharge batteries." So the most advanced ET intelligent life is not planetary based - it travels through space from one universe to another, which is unimaginable to us, while conducting scientific experiments by creating various planetary life forms, evolving them to certain stages, in case of intelligent animals accelerating their cultural and social development and so on.


 
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 32   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Joshua Tree UFOs came to me says singer Kesha  on: Jul 9th, 2017, 3:04pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 9th, 2017, 1:45pm, Nyx wrote:
Kesha claims her newest album was inspired by UFOs she saw in Joshua Tree.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7858028/kesha-ufo-sighting-joshua-tree-spaceship-rainbow-album

In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one singer who repents.
Luke 15:10

huh shocked

In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.
Luke 15:10

smiley









 
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 33   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 7th, 2017, 5:39pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 6th, 2017, 7:19pm, MOKSHA wrote:
I don't know what pics are real or not, but I find this video from
ROBERT HASTINGS
very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUr_TF9o7sY

ENJOY

You should have started a new thread with your post, because this year marks the 50th anniversary of that major nuclear missiles hacking by UFOs in Montana, which the video covers. The aliens observed the anniversary, but no one realized it. (Maybe some partly UFO literate folks within MoD did.)

The video starts with film reels showing the aftermath of Hiroshima bombing. That event is linked to UFOs via the incident near Roswell in 1947, because the debris of the alleged crashed flying saucer was recovered by members of the 509 Operations Group involved in nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The 509th Composite Group (509 CG) was a unit of the United States Army Air Forces created during World War II and tasked with the operational deployment of nuclear weapons. It conducted the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, in August 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Composite_Group

The 509th Composite Group returned from its wartime base on Tinian and relocated to Roswell on 6 November 1945, initially being assigned to Second Air Force under Continental Air Forces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Air_Force_Base

Redesignated the 509th Bombardment Group, Very Heavy in 1946, the group was one of the original ten bombardment groups of Strategic Air Command. The unit was also the host organization at Roswell Army Airfield, New Mexico in July 1947 during the alleged Roswell UFO Incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Operations_Group

The video narrative doesn't even touch up on the important 1947 link between UFOs and the nukes, because in the Gospel according to Randle, Roswell crash was an accident and not a deliberate act whereby the aliens disabled a weather balloon, so it would fall near Roswell Army Airfield in order to form the link between nukes and the UFOs. But a weather balloon poorly implies a flying saucer, and so the aliens did some mind hacking...

Why didn't the aliens simply deliberately crash one of the flying saucers?

Well, that wasn't possible, because they don't have it. A UFO sighting and/or detection is a result of a super-advanced imaging technology combined with dummy radar targeting and so on.

Now, back to the Montana nuclear silos incident 50th anniversary...

The UFO interference took place in the 67th year of the last century. Now imagine this symbolic interference; that the number 67 suddenly splits:

(67) => (6 <---> 7)

What the heck happened?

Probably the same thing that happened to comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 after it split under the heavy gravitational influence of Jupiter. If it so in the case of the 67 splitting, then there must be some objects on the left side of 6 and the right side of 7 that pulled 67 apart.

Question:
a) 67
b) ? <--- 6...7 ---> ?

What that can be...?

Quote:
123
456
789
tongue

Aha. You're right. 6 and 7 are natural numbers organized in the natural order, so if 5 immediately precedes 6, and 8 follows right after 7, the mystery objects that exerted a force strong enough to break 67 apart must be numbers 5 and 8.

Answer:
a) 67
b) 6...7
b) 5 <--- 6...7 ---> 8


But do both 5 and 8 have enough energy to break 67 apart? After all, 58 is less than 67.

We can find out...

If 67 was initially a year (1967), then after the split, 6 and 7 should mean the day and month - or vice versa.
So let's test the first option that 6 and 7 means the day and month - 6. July - and let's go to Montana to see if 5 and 8 have enough energy:

Rare 5.8 earthquake strikes western Montana, the area's strongest temblor in nearly 60 years
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-earthquake-montana-20170706-story.html

5.8 on the Richter scale? That's enough energy all right.

"Coincidences" never cease, do they?

You may as well start a new thread with that video, because the aliens signal a problem ahead. A BIG problem...

 
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 34   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 6th, 2017, 5:40pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 6th, 2017, 3:06pm, INT21 wrote:
...They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy. ...

Now I know you are just pulling our legs.

HAL
INT21

No, I'm not. You are wrong thinking those languages are spoken languages that different races of aliens use. Those are names of languages we use to program computers. Once again, here is the Wikipedia article that deals with numbers base 36:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base36

And here is a short excerpt from the article - a Visual Basic function that converts stuff into numbers in base 36:

Public Function ToBase36String(i as UInteger) As String
Const rainbow = "0123456789ABCDEFGHIJLKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
i = Math.Abs(i)
Dim sb = New StringBuilder()
Do
sb.Insert(0, rainbow(i Mod 36))
i /= 36
Loop While i <> 0
Return sb.ToString()
End Function


There is a constant in the second line named "rainbow" made of 36 characters: digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.

A conversion into higher order numeric bases saves computing space. For example, if you convert 8-digit number 31343833 (base 10) into a number in base 36, you get number INT21 (base 36) with only 5 digits.

A new development...!!!

The metal bar wound up in the hands of MoD. It turned out that the woman who had found the strange metal bar decided to keep it as an extraterrestrial trophy of some sort. She left it for a moment on a table in her living room and as the sun rays hit the bar, that shiny thing attracted attention of her parrot Birdie. The parrot noticed the number 24598808916 punched into that metal bar and also noticed that the number includes one digit zero. Because zero means nothing, Birdie made an empty space (nothing) in that number:

245988 8916.

Now the parrot sees two numbers: 245988 and 8916. Does that make any sense?

Birdie found out that it does:

245988 =>2+4+5+9+8+8 = 36
8916 => 8+9+1+6 = 24

Because Birdie once belonged to a retired metallurgist, it figured that 24 means 24-carat gold and 36 means Alloy 36. It became clear to Birdie that the encoding - the number 24598808916 - couldn't originate inside the human head and so the parrot squeezed out of his cage, flew out of the open window heading for MoD to report an extraterrestrial object.

When the MoD experts converted the number 24598808916 into a base 36 number that reads BATHUFO (base 36), it was clear to them that Birdie was right. So they gave Birdie 12 (base 10) peanuts and locked the extraterrestrial metal bar inside a huge safety box marked "Miscellaneous ET Junk."

 
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 35   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 6th, 2017, 04:22am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 5th, 2017, 4:34pm, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

You do realise that all that number stuff is baloney, don't you ?

All numbers can be reduced to a number between 1 and 9.

Did I ever say that all numbers CANNOT be reduced to a number between 1 and 9?

Quote:
I don't know of anyone who uses a Base 36 system.

Did you check on those guys from Zeta Reticuli? They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base36

Quote:
Base 16 is obvious.

Really? Under which circumstance?

Quote:
As for your Gold bar reference.

Alloy 36 (trade name Invar 36) is a 36% nickel alloy.

Yes. I know.

Quote:
And the number on the bar is probably a serial number.

Can you find on the Internet a single instance where a metal bar is mentioned - a bar made of near pure gold on one side and Alloy 36 on the other? You are making a classic debunker's mistake: you mention a property (serial number in this case) of something that hardly exists.

Quote:
I suspect the bar is one of the type that can be bought as an investment as well as ornamental. The backing would be to add support to a soft metal (Gold).

Another mistake that debunkers make: You just ignored the part where a metallurgy expert failed to figure out how those two different metals were joined together. Apart from that, investment gold bars are always marked with pertinent info.
https://goldbullion101.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/exactly-what-is-gold-bullion-image-1.jpg

Quote:
if the finder had any decency they would take it to the police as some one is probably looking for it.

HAL
INT21

I think the aliens tossed the bar out of the UFO window on purpose to stress the issue of conversion. If you can convert from

24598808916 (base 10) to BATHUFO (base 36)

then you are only a step away from converting from

Islam (base Muhammad) to UFO (base Randle)
 
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 36   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 5th, 2017, 3:14pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The bit about the possibility of an alien race using octal is, however, always a possibility.

We use hex when it suites us, and we certainly don't have 16 fingers and thumbs.

If you mention number base conversions, you maybe interested in the Bath UFO follow up.

The next morning after the UFO was spotted, a woman was walking her dog in the park when she saw something shiny in the grass. She used to work in a jewelry shop, and so she was keen on picking that up. Yes, indeed. It was what she though it might be: a thin gold bar. But the other side was made of some different metal. She looked around, put that thing into her bag and went home.

The next day she stopped at the jewelry store she used to work and showed that strange bar to her former boss. The gold part was nearly pure gold, but he couldn't tell right away what the other metal was. What the owner of the store found really strange was the way both pieces of metals stuck to each other. They couldn't be soldered together, as the follow-up metallurgic analysis showed. The specialist who did the analysis out of curiosity didn't have the slightest idea what process could make both metals stick together like that.

He identified the other metal as a nickel-iron alloy called Alloy 36.
https://www.neonickel.com/alloys/nickel-alloys/alloy-36/

On this side of the metal bar was a number, which seemed to be just punched in - as opposed to the mysterious way both metals were conjoined. It was an eleven-digit number 24598808916.

So you have something "not of this earth," meaning the expert couldn't tell how both metals could be joined together like that. Then you have a photo of an alleged UFO hovering above the town the night before. Can the thin metal bar be linked to the alleged UFO?

Tentatively it can. Put aside the case where the bar accidentally fell off the alien craft and look at the possibility that the bar was tossed out on purpose. From where? Well, from one of the windows.

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See, there seems to be a reference in that mysterious bar to the UFO. If you look again at the punched-in number 24598808916, you see that the most frequent digit is 8. And the pic shows that there are 8 visible windows!

This could be a coincidence, but it doesn't have to. However, a skeptic would point out that the alternative 88888888 would link itself with the number of windows in much more meaningful way: that alternative number would have 8 digits - all of them 8's.

Well, that's true - really.

Actually the skeptic gave you a clue without even realizing it, and the clue lies in other options to consider. In this case, why is it so that the number 24598808916 was punched into that iron-nickel alloy and not into the gold part?

The reason is that the name of the alloy, which is called Alloy36, tells you what to do with that long number 24598808916. Well, you guessed it right. The name "Alloy36" tells you to convert the number into another number base; that is, base 36. (Numbers in base 36 are made of digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.) If you do the conversion, then you find out where the mysterious metal bar really came from.

24598808916(base 10) = BATHUFO(base 36)

It came from that Bath UFO.

How about designing a UFO sighting which involves a plane where the pilot is completely out of his wits watching a couple of UFO's circling his Cessna? Boy! Is he busy sharing his experience with a nearby traffic control personnel...

Well, that takes much, much more than designing a case of a strange metal bar falling off a UFO. Besides, the Gospel according to Randle doesn't tell us to do anything beyond believing in UFOs.
http://fsb.zedge.net/scale.php?img=MS8xLzQvNC8xLTk2MzcxOTQtMTE0NDU5MS5qcGc&ctype=1&v=4&q=81&xs=620&ys=0&sig=827729071754fedceed10e5c930bfe12f96333f7

 
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 37   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: 1982 U.S. plane call "May Day" as UF  on: Jul 4th, 2017, 5:16pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 1st, 2017, 03:25am, Bocker wrote:
* The object is said to have featured up to 20 `flashing lights`. Once again, we have to ask what on earth would UFOs need with flashing lights? Our own aircraft only use flashing lights to draw attention to themselves - for air travel safety.

Your "what on earth question" is based on an assumption of little or no difference between the UFOs traffic and our aircraft traffic - we really don't see a case where our plane is equipped with 20 lights to be seen when flashing.

But allow a little doubt into your comparison: If the sighting of UFOs is comparable to the sighting of our craft, why there is so much interest in what MoD stashes away? Isn't it because UFOs are those "unlike any other" objects in the sky that can jump start human curiosity?

Here is what lights are alternatively used for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHv7h_5P9M

Yes. You can send a message. Unlike the Morse code, it is the number of flashing lights that a part of the message is composed of. It is based on this comparison featuring opposites:

Light On is to Together as Light Off is to Apart


To confirm the basic data of a genuine sighting starting with the year, the above comparison is used thusly:

Light On is to 1982 as Light Off is to 1 9 8 2

In the case of Light Off, you see 1 and 9 and 8 and 2. Since "and" means "+" (one and one is two <=> 1 + 1 = 2), the spaces between the digits get filled accordingly:

1 9 8 2 => 1+9+8+2

Then the UFO flight director completes the 1+9+8+2 message

1+9+8+2 = 20

and tells the mechanics to install 20 lights on the alien craft.

So, you see that hoaxing a UFO sighting isn't that easy... Actually it would have been, if we had not evolved from banana-gobbling monkeys.


 
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 38   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 3rd, 2017, 7:56pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 09:55am, Swamprat wrote:
That picture has to be fake. Everyone of them that I met had done a much better job of trimming their nails..... You don't want to be inspected by one with THOSE nails!

The alien abductions are handled only by males, and ET males keep their nails well-clipped. That's why you noticed the nails of that hand were too long. That crashed UFO pilot whose hand got severed during the accident was a female. If it comes to the topic of "aliens among us," then the first look belongs to the tips of fingers.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9c/1d/a5/9c1da516b2b7181986d7c671b88b52bd--matte-nail-designs-best-nail-art-designs.jpg
 
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 39   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 2:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jul 2nd, 2017, 1:07pm, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

..Quote:
Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system...

It should be pretty obvious from the context of the thread why I asked.

HAL
INT21

It's not that obvious to me even though you did suggest that the ET's-to-humans communication may not go well at all, because the aliens have one thumb and three fingers, so both their hands have 4+4 digits, and that naturally points toward a numerical system base 8. And yes, the circumstances of the Bath UFO clearly point toward number 8 as a significant digit. But the identity 4 = 4 (the number of the left hand digits = the number of the right hand digits) are congruent to the geometry of our symbol 8, which is symmetrical along the vertical axis (the left part of 8 = the right part of 8). That's kind of coincidental...

As I mentioned it earlier, if the aliens are not capable of adjusting to our decimal system, then they are way too dumb to communicate with, which may be the case judging from the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting in 1947.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting

It took the aliens 5 long years (!) to figure out the difference between the state of Washington and Washington DC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident

5 years? Was it really 5 years? Let's see...


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Yes, indeed.
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 40   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 1st, 2017, 11:57pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 30th, 2017, 5:21pm, INT21 wrote:
ED,

..What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?..

That's why we can't communicate. They only have three fingers and one thumb.

That alien race with one thumb and three fingers have an interesting evolution history: they have evolved from Gallus gallus galacticus, or from the galactic chicken. This race wasn't known to Man until once upon a time a UFO crashed. The government retrieval commando found no traces of the ET pilots apart from one severed hand. The secret photo of the hand became available after an intervention from someone in the US Congress...

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These three-fingers & one thumb aliens actually represent someone here on Earth. Since fingers and a thumb are connected to form a part of one hand, the ID code is either 13 or 31.

Hand A: 1 thumb and 3 fingers ----> 13
Hand B: 3 fingers and 1 thumb ----> 31


All you need to do is to decode 13 or 31 to identify the earthlings who look like humans, but are actually an alien race.

This is quite difficult search. But those folks who wear an alien implant in their heads - folks like Swamprat - can help.
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1498693431

Although the MUFON Inner Circle is announced on MUFONís website, and there seems to be no attempt to keep the elite organization hidden, very few of the MUFON members I queried had any idea that it existed. It currently is made up of thirteen members, which seems to be more coincidence than design, but that number does seem to have mysterious connotations for some. I donít believe it significant, only a little bizarre.

Here we go... Actually both codes 13 and 31 apply. That's because the MUFON Inner Circle is made of 13 members and on the bottom of MUFON website is a California address (3822 CAMPUS DRIVE SUITE 201 NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660).
http://www.mufon.com/

Since California is the 31st State of the Union, it all comes nicely together. Three fingers & one thumb or the other way around.

It's kind of sad to see that Kevin Randle remains after all those long years a UFO illiterate person.

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Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system.

 
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 41   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jul 1st, 2017, 4:14pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 30th, 2017, 5:07pm, GhostofEd wrote:
The case number from the MUFON site is 84387 not 84388.

That's a strangely worded confirmation of what I already said in my post: Actually the odds in the face of the implication are way too low, with the implication being that the aliens can hack our mind and force a mistake in the catalog number, because you mentioned #84387 and not #84388, which is a "smart number" but very likely incorrect.

I obviously meant the case when the blogger made the mistake and instead of #84387, he wrote number #84388, which is wrong, but smart. That smart number doesn't appear smart, unless a person looks at the pic of the UFO...

The MUFON case number 84387 is not smart, just intelligent. Here is why: It is composed of digits that are identical and of those that are different.

identical: 8 8
different: 4 3 7


Now, what is one of the main attributes of intelligence?

Clue: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Itf8hK4xENw/maxresdefault.jpg

It is the ability to identify identical items and mark them as such:

question: INTELLIGENCE
answer: INTE L=L IGENCE


(Remember those intersected right angle corners of the windows - L and L?)

And that's why the MUFON case number 84387 is intelligent:

identical: 8 8 -------> 8 = 8
different: 4 3 7 -------> 4 + 3 = 7


Yes, but the UFOs behave so irrationally that they can't be possibly guided by an intelligent mind!

Let's see if UFO is intelligent...

question: U F O
answer: U = F + O (21 = 6 + 15)


Yes, indeed - "UFO" is an "intelligent" acronym, because the letters form an identity.

And now, "To His image, to His likeness..."

UFO <----> MAN ?

Would UFO attempt to communicate with someone who is not intelligent?

Hardly so. That means that MAN is intelligent. But where is the proof?

Right here: M A N ----> M + A = N (13 + 1 = 14)

Can MAN communicate with UFO?

question: M A N -----to-----> U F O
answer: M A N -----to ----> U F O


The answer is NO. It's a similar situation where the pope gets inspired by God, but he can't tell Him what to do. In the case of UFO, there is a special case when it is possible but it's also very limited.

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What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?

Maybe they don't. But do you think that they couldn't be able to adapt to our mostly used numerical system? If they couldn't, what do you think would be the obstacle? A very low IQ?
 
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 42   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 30th, 2017, 4:37pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 28th, 2017, 9:20pm, GhostofEd wrote:
There is a suspicious vertical line at the top of it.

You bet that the hypothetical hoaxer was aware of that "suspicious vertical line" as well. The hoaxers examine their handiwork very carefully before sending their stuff to MUFON. But in this case he wouldn't fix the problem. Why?

See, the intersection points made of the window corners are not happening in the pic you've posted. That means there must be other clue to run ortho lines which intersect at the right angle in the middle of Window [2, 2], and the clue happens to be that "suspicious vertical line."

Here is a destination of the picture which enables to establish the odds of the features being a coincidence or not:

I was getting ready for bed and turning all the lights off around the flat when I looked out of my back window to discover this object hovering in the sky above the city. I quickly grabbed my phone and got a pretty decent shot before rushing to my partner and tell them what I witnessed. When we returned to look out the window, the object was gone. mufon cms #84388 (Possible Hoax)
https://ufo-signs.blogspot.com/2017/

If I were a member of an ET civilization over eight hundred million years "ahead of us," as the aliens claim, I would do the same thing: I would link the image of the alien craft with MUFON catalog case number, which, according to the quote, is 84388.

Now note that the mode (the most frequent digit) of those five digits that the number is made of is 8 - it appears three times. This count is actually included in the number right in the middle: 84[3]88. (Remember how the concept of the middle was highlighted in your version of the photo?)

But what about the next digit to the left? That 4 disputes the count; it basically "claims" that there are four 8's!

Well, we see only three 8's and that's because we don't have those big eyes like the aliens. They would look at the picture of that Bath UFO to see that there are 8 windows visible. And that's the fourth 8.

Now it's not difficult to compute the probability of the 84388 digit arrangement being just a coincidence - it is 5000 to 1. Anyone ready to bet against those odds?

Actually the odds in the face of the implication are way too low, with the implication being that the aliens can hack our mind and force a mistake in the catalog number, because you mentioned #84387 and not #84388, which is a "smart number" but very likely incorrect.

The bottom line is that we accept or reject ideas according to whether we like them or not. So the aliens can support their claims with perhaps astronomical odds and basically waste their time, or they can keep flying around for another seventy years and repeat the same thing all over again, but to no avail, because we, the speaking mammals, have created the universe to our image, to our likeness and that's it.

 
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 43   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jun 30th, 2017, 03:45am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:04pm, Nyx wrote:
It is hard to explain when the children were asked to draw what they saw, all the pictures were almost the same.

I think something strange happened that day.

It wasn't really that strange: the kids were drawing the pics the same way they were repeating what the aliens "told" them. No matter how stupidly the aliens behaved or how bizzare their description, it has been accepted as such, actually it was welcome, as it spiced all the necessary excitement.
 
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 44   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Ruwa, Zimbabwe UFO kids still traumatized toda  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 8:25pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 5:06pm, Nyx wrote:
In 1994 sixty children playing outside their school in Zimbabwe watched an UFO land and beings trying to inter-react with them on their playground.

That case was a masterpiece in deception, because the only entryway to grasp the meaning of the event consisted of an info that lead to a sound rejection of it. That's why the story, as it is retold, is mostly void of that crucial info; that is, the children couldn't agree on the way the message from the impossible creatures were conveyed to them - they just somewhat "knew." They said that they were "told" to take better care of our planet.

There is no way that a rational person would accept an existence of an advanced ET civilization with some of its members deranged to the point of approaching 5 - 12 year-old schoolkids somewhere in Africa and counsel them about ecological issues. But this monument of idiocy served as a lighthouse - all what John Mack had to do was to come up with a rational alternative. If he did, he would have ran into a green color, which also means 'go ahead' and maybe he would be able to break through.

Exactly 3664 days had passed since the date of the Ruwa incident and John Mack was dead - killed by a driver who didn't see him crossing the street. 3664 days? Yes, there are 366 days from January 1 to December 31 every 4th year. These are called leap years. That's a strange coincidence considering that 2004 - the year John Mack got killed while crossing the street - was a leap year.
 
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 45   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 4:17pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:17am, Swamprat wrote:
Sighh....... I'm sorry I ever posted that picture...... sad

Swamprat, if you adjusted the picture (did you?) then there is hard evidence that you wear an alien neural implant that adjusts your actions. That's good, because it prevents you to screw up. But you can't rely on it the way that you get reckless, thinking that the aliens fix it for you.
 
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 46   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 3:52pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 29th, 2017, 09:08am, GhostofEd wrote:
The pictures prior posted here are not the originals from the MUFON report. If one goes to the MUFON site @ http://www.mufon.com/live-ufo-map.html and search on case # 84387 you can download the original image which contains the EXIF data. If that has been manipulated I can't tell. However, if the "official" picture is from MUFON, the cross hairs give a different outcome. (This is uncropped scaled because the original resolution is too large for the forum page width.)

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My opinion is this is a hoaxed picture showing a reflection of a lighted object in a dark room behind a window. One characteristic that stands out (when viewing the high res original) is that the sharpness and focus of the UFO is more representative of a close object (reflection?) and not of a distance object. I suppose it could also be a suspended model in front of the camera i.e., not a reflection. Regardless the too sharp observation should still apply.

Another thing that strikes me is that the UFO color is similar to the sky. This suggests to me a translucent object perhaps lit with white light. I think this is consistent with how a reflection would look.

If these possible issues (sharpness & translucency) are incorrect I'd like to know why.


That's it! This version looks like the usual original shots from the hoaxers under "the influence." Even if you personally draw the cross-hair diagonals, you may not realize the unique points of intersection, the first being the street light, which is intersected in the MIDDLE by the left diagonal.

Follow the diagonals... You see that the alleged UFO cannot descend any further because it happens to be wedged in between the lines. Just run a computer model with the two objects under similar circumstances and measure the success/failure ratio...

Once the left diagonal crosses the street light "circle" in the MIDDLE, you are supposed to think in terms of "MIDDLE" and look around with respect to the features of UFO. You see a building with three rows of windows, so you consider the MIDDLE floor, especially when the street light is in the horizontal agreement with it. You count the windows, then count the visible windows of the UFO image. The count agrees! 8=8. You shouldn't fail to see that the right diagonal divides the visible windows in the MIDDLE floor in the MIDDLE, so the count is actually 4+4 windows.

Now it all depends on the NIQ of the viewer, where NIQ means the Natural Ignorance Quotient, how far anyone gets and if he or she can recover the link between the date of reporting and the number of windows.

When the crop circles started to appear in southern England, the folks who attended the phenomenon noticed that a disproportionate number of the circles positioned themselves the way that the tramline appeared right in the MIDDLE of the circle. They concluded that there must be something intelligent behind the new and unexpected phenomenon - something capable of seeing the field features, such as the tramlines. Unfortunately, the research disintegrated following the UFO research "methodology," which basically limits itself to an activity of tossing pictures into two bins marked REAL/ NOT REAL. They have two bins in the Vatican as well, except they are marked MIRACLES/NOT MIRACLES...

This is not to say that no effort should be made to tell things apart, but that shouldn't be the terminal bus stop. The big problem is that the aliens want it that way, and so we will continue to commit crimes against common sense whenever the aliens feel like it. They seem to like the idea that we put them into a position of galactic stupidos who keep flying around the earth for no apparent reason at all. Just don't disturb the natural habitat of Homo sapiens, right?

The experts on intelligent extraterrestrial life, those PhD's at SETI, say there are no aliens around. It means that through the appeal to the authority all pics of UFO's are either hoaxes or they can be rationally explained, which makes the process of telling things apart much faster.


 
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 47   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 29th, 2017, 03:48am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 28th, 2017, 9:20pm, GhostofEd wrote:
A few comments:

The picture looks to be a crop and not the complete original image. Because of this trying to draw any conclusions about the number of windows is speculative. It is quite possible there are windows to the right that were cropped out. This brings into question the 6 & 14.

The picture doesn't look to be cropped to me. You apparently don't understand the alien intervention: what matters is what appears in the MUFON web pages - those are the "official" pics to work with.

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The upper set of windows (6) is being grouped into the set below (8) to get the 14. It could just as well be grouped into the set of windows below (7-8?) to come up with 21 or 22. Or they could be separated from the top set to get 15 or 16. This would then give a date of 6/21, 6/22, 6/15 or 6/16.

I had to exclude for brevity some issues that need to be considered. For example the 3x2 matrix that I added to one of the pics.

U F O
T W O

resolves in a 4x3 matrix

U F O
T W O
T O P
R O W

with the meaning of the two top rows of windows. That excludes the first floor windows from the count. The third column O=O alignment in the 2x3 matrix is a reference to the word that is particular and the word is "flOOr."

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I see 8 windows on the UFO(?). Not sure what their significance is to your ideas.

I never mentioned the number of windows visible in the UFO. The windows are initially in a "descriptive mode" - they are just windows and their inclusion is meant to create a windows-windows link with terrestrial objects. Surely later, when one goes into details and asks the question what is the logical link between 6 and 14, (between the month and the day), such link can be found on a chalkboard somewhere at junior high:

6 + x = 14

You look out of the classroom windows, see a UFO with 8 windows and so you can confidently solve the equation:
x = 8.

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I suspect the UFO is positioned somewhat top center of the image is because of aesthetics during cropping - natural thing to do.

You again mention cropping without any hint that the process actually took place. MUFON folks would be offended if you suggested that they crop UFO pics according to "aesthetics." No, MUFON's pic database is not considered by the staff an art gallery and it will not adjust pictures accordingly.

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The center lines crossing over window edges could be coincidence - because there are coincidences in life. I do not find it unusual that building elements are geometrically related to others because that is how things are designed.

Yes, coincidences sometimes do occur, but you completely excluded from your judgement the time in minutes - those 45 minutes past 10 p.m. where 4 refers to the number of intersected windows and 5 to the points of intersection. How do you think the time of a UFO appearance is designed? It cannot be random, otherwise UFO sightings wouldn't make much sense - it would defy their purpose. There is a mind behind the UFO sighting design, which is vastly superior to ours, as the overall circumstances clearly point to.

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My initial impressions of this UFO(?) is that it could be a reflection of a light fixture on a window. There is a suspicious vertical line at the top of it. No other reports of what would seem to be a quite obvious and unusual object over a populated area?


The "suspicious vertical line" could be caused by a rooftop reflector or some other light source. I don't believe that the mental capacity of the person who took the picture is so low that he wouldn't recognize his own ceiling light? That person said that the UFO was gone after he took the pic. So he turns off the light, looks out and the UFO is gone, right? If he was that dumb, he wouldn't be able to operate his own camera. Btw, UFOs are not solid objects, justs pecial images which can be seen only from a specific direction if the situation calls for it

But in the case where the pic is a deliberate hoax really involving an overhead light fixture, the idea to make the hoax didn't originate in the hoaxer's head as the decades long evidence with similar pics confirms. These hoaxes feature spacial arrangements that the hoaxers are not aware of and when those are mathematically analyzed, they create a situation where the probability of no coincidence is way too high. But the math behind it is not easy at all.

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Without the original unaltered image it is all speculation and some of it wild. This kind of MUFON report and lack of details often is counterproductive.

Now you again believe that there is an unaltered image somewhere. What makes you believe that it is so?

Here is a something that wasn't meant to be a UFO hoax.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/AGA6AF/glass-window-reflection-of-memorial-church-in-harvard-yard-harvard-AGA6AF.jpg

The features can't be compiled no matter what.





 
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 48   General UFO & Alien Board / Which UFO Pictures Are "Real?"  on: Jun 28th, 2017, 6:42pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The title implies that there are also pictures which show objects that can be explained as rare natural phenomena or some artifacts and that there are also deliberate hoaxes. And that all implies other opposites, particularly EASY and DIFFICULT. Here is a nice photo

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that actually implies neither until the moment when someone asks this question: When was the photo taken?

Well, that's EASY. The photo was taken at night.

But if the question refers to the particular month and day things transfer right away to the DIFFICULT category. Or does anyone think it is easy? Well we don't see any snow, but the question didn't mention a season.

Even if you exclude the winter months, the chances that you get the month and day right are way too high.

But you don't need to take a completely random choice. Here is an example: How many windows do you see in the top floor?

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I see 6 windows.

And how many windows do you see now?

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With that addition there are 14 windows. Getting the idea? The number of windows - those two counts - can be easily converted into the month and day. Since there are no 14 months in the year - just 12 - there can be no mistake. So the date when the picture was taken was 6/14, or June 14.

Aaah, those ET's - always on standby ready to assist mankind in answering difficult questions...

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The whole picture looks like this

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and also the additional info comes from Swamprat's post here:
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1488817914&start=15

There is a note at the end of the post - note made by MUFON - saying that the photo hasn't been examined by an expert and so it's status REAL/HOAX is not known yet.

Maybe we can add our two cents to the process of telling things apart...

Note that there is something a bit unusual about the photo. People usually focus on the object of interest, but in this case the UFO seems to be well above the center of the picture. You would be surprised, but there is actually reason for that. Take a look:

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You can see that the "make sure" diagonal cross-hairs of symmetry intersect the corners of four windows. (A rectangle has four sides.) You can also define those four windows as windows B, A, T, H - in case there is an additional question that asks for the name of the place that the photo was taken. This is an incredible coincidence! But is it? If it's not, then there has to be a purpose to it. As you see, the window corners make a 90 degree angle, and that's what the aliens want you to consider. In other words, they point toward an intersection of two lines that form a 90 degree (right) angle. Just mark two most luminous parts of the pic and you get the "secret" right angle.

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Now you see that the intersection occurs in the middle of Window [2, 2] (2nd window from top/left). Remember that the photo was taken on 6-14-2017 at 22:45. If you scroll up to the previous pic, you see 4 windows that have their corners intersected, but there are 5 points of intersections (those little red squares) and that count makes the minutes - 22:45

How can the aliens achieve such an incredible precision?

Well, the neural implants that they stick to the brain of Homo sapiens works very well. The aliens basically take over the implanted person, which responds by doing exactly what is needed.

But that means the photo could be easily photoshopped as well!

Yes. The command would come saying "Let's make a nice hoax of a UFO." The recipient thinks it is his own idea and complies. This guy
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/116/11606.jpg
could tell you more about it. (Yep, yep. Always on standby to assist mankind in answering difficult questions...)

Here is something MUFON will probably check on our own terms.

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An imaging expert would compare the amount of light dispersion. If the UFO image was photoshopped in, there would be some dispersion inconsistency.

Here is an example of what a white bright light produces.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/41/38/ea/4138ea56aa84d695b5182ec4934638f1.jpg

The conclusion may not be encouraging for some UFO theologians: Some proven UFO hoaxes can be actually real events.

 
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 49   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 28th, 2017, 12:19am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 27th, 2017, 2:06pm, INT21 wrote:
So how do you differentiate between a genuine and a non genuine ufo effect ?

In essence there will be a coordination between parameters like WHEN, WHERE, WHAT and so on. Some folks can come up with elaborate UFO hoaxes, but would treat that event as a chance encounter and so their story would fall apart by failing to meet the criteria for a genuine event.

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You do know what JAL 1628 refers to ?

I know only a part of that very complex JAL 1628 statement. The info conveyed by the aliens usually runs contrary to what we think is true, and so each significant UFO sighting is supported by other significant sightings and it all goes back to Kenneth Arnold sighting and the Roswell case, with both cases believed to be events where a chance ran supreme. But they were both well-prepared manifestations.

When you ask MUFON why is so that the sphere is the most frequent object reported, they would likely shrug. If you mention that balloons are of a spherical shape and that the ET's want the earthlings know what truly happened back in 1947 in Roswell, MUFON folks get probably defensive pointing toward some "witnesses." But we are also interested in what the ET's had to say to it, aren't we?

The JAL 1628 sighting belongs to the Arnold class of sightings - it has a very high degree of certainty that it all went down the way the pilots described it. That means it was assumable that the event was genuine. But some thirty years later, no one have the slightest idea WHY it happened - mainly because there are other, rather foolish, priorities.

Maybe I'll do the basics on JAL 1628 in a separate thread.

 
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 50   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 27th, 2017, 01:40am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The number of sightings in any country/state depends upon many factors. Even a densely populated state may have adverse weather conditions that prevent people seeing things while living out in a sparsely populated area like a desert may have excellent viewing conditions.

I have been hoping to see a decent meteor shower for the last five years but every time the cloud cover precludes it.

Those conditions that prevent seeing something in the sky that can't be readily associated with the usual don't apply to the genuine UFO effects. If a particular person is supposed to see it, then the sighting takes place even if the witness didn't want it. It has been thought that such an encounter is a matter of chance, but it is not so.

There is a hint that a cloud cover may not play any role in the observation of UFOs:

http://www.businessinsider.com/map-here-are-the-parts-of-the-us-that-get-the-most-sunshine-2014-6

You can select from this map Arizona and Washington with both states differing significantly in the number of cloudy days. The data from February 2017 to May 2017 show that for that time period there were 50 reports coming from Arizona and 41 from Washington. When you include the weather factor together with a difference in population, the expected number of reports from Arizona should be 60, not 50. This is of course an insufficient sample to generalize, but MUFON should have analyzed the reports received to answer the principle questions concerning the UFO traffic. Since 1947, it appears that the movement of UFOs is absolutely purposeless and that's something hard to believe - unless the peculiar firework is a manifestation of God whose mind is said to work "mysterious ways."

I have a feeling that MUFON is just happy when the number of UFO reports grows.

How strong is the correlation between the population of individual states and the number of filed reports?

The online calculator tells me that The value of R is 0.8828. This is a strong positive correlation, which means that high X variable scores go with high Y variable scores (and vice versa).

It looks like the aliens took their flight plan from the way the electoral college works in USA.

There is a trick in the statistic for May. Maybe I mention it some other time. And no, the PhD's at SETI will never find them aliens.

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P.s. What do you think of the JAL 1628 case ?

I don't know, but the message is JAL 1628 and the circumstances of the encounter decode it.
 
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 51   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 26th, 2017, 10:41pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:15pm, Swamprat wrote:
"Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared."

Travex, what in the world are you talking about? I haven't "replaced the May 2017 report" with ANYTHING! The May report is still there, along with the others.
huh

That's truly weird. I couldn't find the May report no matter what and now it's easy to see - it's on the 1st page following a couple of other posts. huh
 
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 52   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 26th, 2017, 2:00pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 25th, 2017, 3:59pm, INT21 wrote:
It is quite possible that a large number of reported sightings were filtered out because they were in fact misidentified natural or man made objects.

There is no point in filling up your data base with things that, although unknown to some observers, were readily identified by others.


According to MUFON the data released is just a number of reports received from different locations.

The MUTUAL UFO Network (MUFON) received a total of 624 UFO reports for the month of May where 470 originated in the U.S., according to statistics released June 1, 2017.

The U.S. was the top reporting country at 470; with United Kingdom at 38 and Canada at 35.

The three leading report states in May were California, 53 reports; Texas, 45; and Florida, 32. (which were the same top three for the previous month.) Other states with 10 or more reports include: Arizona, 22; Michigan, 18; Missouri, 17; Colorado and New York, 16; Illinois and Washington, 15; Oregon, 14; Ohio, 13; Alabama, Tennessee and Maine, 11; and Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Virginia, 10.

http://www.mufon.com/feed/archives/06-2017

The info is just ordered set of data otherwise unprocessed. Since the most populous states report the highest number of sightings, it seems that there is a correlation. Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared. So there is no way to run the Pearson correlation coefficient test across all fifty states just to see how tight the correlation is. I'll do it with just those 13 mentioned in the above quote from that MUFON article. The result needs to be then interpreted.

The leading shape reported is again a sphere. That's the easiest part, because perhaps the only object of a spherical shape that you can see in the sky is a balloon - you know, the thing that the aliens downed in Roswell, New Mexico back in 1947. However, this persistent message is to no avail, because a UFO crash is more fun.

That alien message goes hand in hand with the total number of sightings reported in the USA in May 2017, that is 470. Well, zero is not a sphere in 2D - it resembles more a circle, the second leading shape reported. So let's see the crash:

47.................0
47...........0
47.....0
470 (ouch!)

The zero(balloon) just hit 47. Since the 47th state of the Union is New Mexico and it happened in the 47th year of the last century, there seems to be just too many peculiar coincidences... But as I said - a UFO crash is much more fun.






 
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 53   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 25th, 2017, 3:06pm
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
on Jun 25th, 2017, 1:29pm, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

...The question for the May sightings was: Which states represent the USA with respect to the listed UFO sightings?

I don't know.

You don't know? Well, we must take a look why is it so that you don't know..
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If you stop playing stupid numbers adding games long enough to read the whole posting of the May sightings you will find, at the bottom of the countries listing...



Distribution by State

State Number of Reports




It's all there; just look.


HAL
INT21 rolleyes


How does the "State Number of Reports" invalidate the number of sightings reported?
huh

There is something you should have pointed out instead; it concerns the title "UFO Sightings Reports..." The title should have read "Alleged UFO Sightings Reports..." Or do you really believe that the figure was higher for each listed location, because MUFON specialists sifted through and included in the Report only those sightings which could be according to the MUFON metodology classified without any doubt as UFOs?

What is the purpose of such data accumulation, when no further analysis follows? It resembles records of folks attending church services in different places. Maybe MUFON just plays some stupid number game...

 
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 54   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Monthly Sighting Report Summaries  on: Jun 25th, 2017, 02:22am
Started by Swamprat | Post by travex
I wonder what the stats would look like in June and July - the hot months for historical UFO activities.

The question for the May sightings was: Which states represent the USA with respect to the listed UFO sightings?

I don't know.

You don't know? Well, we must take a look why is it so that you don't know...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614899-1D6C31A800000578-240_634x403.jpg

Oh, I know now!!! Just get that stupid probing needle out of my face! (Everyone come to their senses pretty quickly. LOL.)

This is how it goes: There are 50 states and so we solve this equation.

50 = U + F + O

It actually amounts to solving the UFO acronym.

U____?
F____?
O____?


There are three options:

U(tah)
F(lorida)
O(hio)


or

U(tah)
F(lorida)
O(klahoma)


or

U(tah)
F(lorida)
O(regon)


The May UFO sightings in those states is as follows:

Utah = 4
Florida = 32
Ohio = 13
Oklahoma = 5
Oregon = 14


Since Utah + Florida = 36 sightings, it follows that we need 14 sightings to solve the 50 = U + F + O equation. That number of sightings was reported from Oregon and so,

Q: 50 = U + F + O

A: 50 = 4 + 32 + 14 = Utah + Florida + Oregon


Why did it work that way in May?

That's because the 2x3 matrix:

UFO
MAY


There is no other name of a month with only three letters.

This 2x3 matrix

UFO
RAF


was used to mess with the Royal Air Force, but I don't remember how it goes.
 
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 55   General UFO & Alien Board / How to Read UFO Sightings  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 7:58pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The aliens have declassified some of their stuff - probably to promote UFO literacy - so here is a part that deals with UFO crashes. You know, that's when a flying saucer develops proton engine trouble, crashes, and the government gets always to the crash site first and cleans up the site as if nothing happened. Note that the trouble-prone flying saucers never develop any engine problem over a larger city, crashing into a city hall whilst doing 3,276 mph...

The term "flying saucer" isn't good for the theory of the crashes - the acronym UFO is used instead. You will see why.

Problems are mostly caused by errors and so here is an example:

BEEF + error = EBEF

"Ebef" is no longer a valid word living in the dictionary - it's a mistake. The same goes for UFO as a solid object.

UFO + error = ?

Actually there are five possible outcomes; five basic modeling errors that can disable an alien flying object.

UOF
FUO
FOU
OUF
OFU


Here is a question: The most famous UFO crash is the one that took place near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. (We assume that an alien craft really hit the ground there.) What kind of trouble the UFO developed? OUF, OFU...?

Like in our plane crashes, one needs to examine the debris, and in the case of the Roswell crash the debris could be spread around like

O_____ F_____U

or

U_____O_____ F

or any one out of those five error possibilities.

This puzzle seems impossible to solve, until one realizes that the debris was picked up and examined by the personnel of the 509th Bomb Wing of the Hiroshima (in)fame stationed at Roswell. This fact creates a neutral 2(rows) x 3(columns) matrix.

5 0 9
U F O


Now you need to ask the folks at MUFON to kindly supply you with top ten UFO sightings based on the number of witnesses and the duration of the sighting. Here is a candidate:

This reported UFO sighting occurred over the Canary Islands on 22 June 1976. It is notable for its duration (over 40 minutes), multiple locations (it was observed in Tenerife, La Palma, La Gomera, Gran Canaria and by a ship at sea) and multiple witnesses (several hundred people, including both civilian and military personnel). It is one of the few accounts to include a report of details of the occupants inside the craft. The official report on the incident, by the Spanish Air Force, was declassified in June 1994, but much of its content had already been released to the public in 1977, after journalist J Benitez obtained a number of military files and used them as the basis of a book on UFO cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_Canary_Islands

But the witnesses never observed any trouble or even a crash!

Just hold on. Due time...

On March 27, 1977, two Boeing 747 passenger jets collided on the runway at Los Rodeos Airport (now Tenerife North Airport), on the Spanish island of Tenerife, Canary Islands. The crash killed 583 people, making it the deadliest accident in aviation history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster

Now pay special attention to the time difference between the time of the UFO sighting and the time of the terrible disaster - the difference between 22 June 1976 and 27 March 1977.

22 June 1976 + (0 years, 5 months, 9 days) = 27 March 1977

You can see that the time difference in years, months and days, that is 0__5__9, is just an adjustment of 509 - which refers to the 509th Bomb Wing at Roswell and the 2x3 matrix.

509 is to UFO as 059 is to FUO

or

0 5 9
F U O


It follows that back in July 1947, the unfortunate flying saucer that crashed near Roswell developed the FUO kind of problem. Puzzle solved.

Now wait a minute! Naw, the aliens wouldn't cause a crash that killed 583(!) earthlings just to solve some puzzle.

No? Really? Just look at them:

http://d38zt8ehae1tnt.cloudfront.net/images/news/700_03f036d28e91949e61ee072818cfe9a3.jpg

http://img10.deviantart.net/1af9/i/2011/320/6/e/grey_alien_iv_by_mrthirdeyeching-d4ge9np.jpg

That's what we've created and it bounced back, didn't it?

Here is a proof-like statement, which lessens the possibility that the FUO solution is a case of some weird coincidence. It logically aligns the number of those who got killed during the two-planes collision with the solution FUO.

583 is to together and alive, as 5 8 3 is to apart and dead.

Now fill the spaces in 5 8 3 with characters that logically belong there and create a congruence with F U O.

(5 = 8 - 3) == (F = U - O)

Just replace the letters F, U, O with numbers according to the alphabetical order and the congruence holds.

(5 = 8 - 3) == (6 = 21 - 15)

You can verbalize the above this way:

5 is to 8 and 3, as F is to U and O

So that's a part of a heuristic model that supports the idea that the UFO phenomenon is actually real - but some 853 million years ahead of us.

 
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 56   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Light in the sky  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 11:35am
Started by Ynnews | Post by travex
on Jun 19th, 2017, 5:24pm, Ynnews wrote:
What do you thing about it?


The sun forms a semicircle as it shines through the woods and the artifact is of the same shape, so the cause really leads to a strong source of light even though one would expect to see a full circle, like here:
https://previews.123rf.com/images/parker/parker1002/parker100200076/18441132-Triple-Sun-Lens-Refraction-Stock-Photo.jpg
The effect where the sun seems to set in front of the trees is fun too. Go and experiment if the UFO-like image shows up again. Take also a pic when the sun is just above the treeline.
 
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 57   General UFO & Alien Board / June 24 Travel Advisory  on: Jun 22nd, 2017, 12:18am
Started by travex | Post by travex
To play it safe, cancel all flights made of the triple-digit combination 0, 4, and 8; and the double-digit combination 4 and 8.

The reason for it is the 70th anniversary of Kenneth Arnold sighting. Number 70 is safe, but the event took place 70x12 or 840 month ago where 840 is a significant number, because Arnold died in the 84th year of the last century. That's why 840 is significant, because 84 is followed by 0 where zero means absence. In other words, there was no '85 coming after '84 for Kenneth nor anyone else who died in 1984.

At the time of Arnold sighting, the USA was made of only 48 states, with Alaska and Hawaii joining later. The simple logic of opposites that the aliens use to communicate sets the future this way: If there is 49 and 50 coming after 48 (Alaska and Hawaii coming after Arizona), then nothing (zero) comes after 84.

48 is to something after, as 84 is to nothing after

On June 24, 1947, Kenneth Arnold was on a business trip when he made a detour after he learned that a search had been on for a crashed military plane. The sighting of those nine mysterious objects took place shortly after he joined the search. In order to reinforce the issue of man-made flying object crashes, the aliens disabled a weather balloon over New Mexico in early July leaving most of the rest to our incompetence and hunger for a sensation.

When the aliens make an important statement, it must make a headline, and secret alien-caused plane crashes were one of the options. The government will obviously not tell you about that - no one wants any panic around here and that includes the aliens as well.


 
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 58   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: so,you believe in uFO  on: Jun 21st, 2017, 2:23pm
Started by carolnistri | Post by travex
Now you see it.

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The Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting occurred on June 24, 1947, when private pilot Kenneth Arnold claimed that he saw a string of nine, shiny unidentified flying objects flying past Mount Rainier at speeds that Arnold estimated at a minimum of 1,200 miles an hour (1,932 km/hr).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting

Now you don't.

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The way the ET's coordinate the behavior of different earth species, like mammals and birds in this case, is just amazing.

Let's keep dreaming that we are in charge of our own affairs...
 
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 59   General UFO & Alien Board / The Unidentified Flying Rings  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 3:34pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
It is known that the aliens can create interesting transitions with the notorious acronym UFO. Have you ever seen an alien spacecraft having a shape like letter U or letter F? No? How about O?

User Image

Wow! Could that be another showcase of super advanced technology?

Hmm. Let's see another photo...

http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Black-Ring-of-Lemington-Spa-UFO-ftr.jpg

Well, the shape of the strange thing is like O - and that's enough a clue: it's a UFO.

But aren't there other options? There are plenty of words that include a single O as a clue. What would be the best example of such a word?

Looking at the picture once again, I think the best example of a word that includes a single letter O is

smOke.

I guess I wouldn't be the only one to pick that word up, even though UFO expert Nick Pope expresses certain doubts:

The Daly Mail spoke to UFO expert Nick Pope who told them, ďItís a truly bizarre image. It looks like a smoke ring, but I canít see where it could have come from.Ē
http://www.openminds.tv/mysterious-black-ring-ufo-england-mysterious/26974

The next O-ring "test" is much harder.

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That's actually a vintage single crop ring of the 1980's era. The answer doesn't have to by unique one, but the way one would arrive at it can't stray from the overall circumstances - not even an inch.

Well, the official explanation says that the crop circles are man made. Let's stick with that. So pranksters made them, hoaxers made them, but also landscape artists got involved. So suppose that the crop ring was meant to be an artwork. Now when you again look at the crop ring with the word "artwork" on your mind, then, according to the ET psychologists assigned to study Homo sapiens, we should liken the ring to a circular frame and ask this question: Where the heck is the canvas; where did the painting disappear to?

So in order to bring the painting back and re-frame it, one obviously needs to find it. We are looking for some circular painting, and I think this one could be the best candidate

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because it includes an item that some UFO fans have been keenly interested in:

https://cde.peru.com/ima/0/1/0/1/2/1012499/628x353/ovnis.jpg

http://www.theancientaliens.com/alien-art-madonna-and-child

The problem here is that the attention focuses solely on the mysterious object in the sky and excludes the presence of the central figure (Madonna), which is important to create the following comprehensive unity.

Madonna -------> Roman Catholic Church
the mysterious object ---------> MUFON


Yes, over the long years, the RCC and MUFON have proven that both organizations have something in common with the former having possibly stricter guidelines while it investigates reported miracles. When a statue of Virgin Mary starts to shed tears in some local church, the Vatican needs to make sure that the effect cannot be rationally explained. But in case the studied effect doesn't have a rational explanation, the question why the statue decided to weep now and not a month ago, for example, is never asked. That goes for MUFON as well. This organization never asks natural follow up questions when it comes across a case with a higher degree of certainty that the observed object indeed belongs to the box labeled "UFO." That's why the interest in UFOs is often compared to a modern religion.

Finally, here is another mystery ring.

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But due to the intervention of common sense, the exciting possibilities didn't last long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_ring

How did the aliens manage to turn our attention to that 'smOke' in Lemington Spa?

Well, there are ways and means...

And why?

To promote UFO literacy, I guess.

 
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 60   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The (6+24)th anniversary  on: Jun 15th, 2017, 12:35pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Jun 14th, 2017, 8:00pm, dave54 wrote:
Why would they use our calendar anniversary? Wouldn't they use an anniversary according to their calendar?

The reason is simple: if you want to send a letter to someone who doesn't speak your language, you need to adjust to the situation.

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Why would they commemorate it at all?

To initiate a set of arguments supplying a heuristic proof that what Arnold saw couldn't be some atmospheric phenomenon or that he made the story up.

The film Close Encounters of the Third Kind was reminded to the earthlings in rather explicit way once more. This time it was a scientist who uncovered the link between a strange activity and the film.

Here is a puzzle that exists within the domain of the (6+24)th anniversary of Kenneth Arnold sighting: A person turned (12+18) years of age. In other words, he turned 30. Who was likely the person and what he or she was doing at that time of his birthday?

If an alien abductee solves the puzzle, he can stay; but the failure to solve usually means that the ET's stick a long needle up his ass and send him back to the earth.



 
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 61   General UFO & Alien Board / The (6+24)th anniversary  on: Jun 14th, 2017, 6:05pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
What is that? That's truly a weird way to mean 30th anniversary.

Not really. It comes handy when there is no further reference to what event is the anniversary relating to.

In order to make a good guess, any near intelligent being in the Milky Way would translate that 6 and 24 into time units available in his world. In the case of earthlings, they should figure out that the (6+24)th anniversary applies to an event that took place 30 years ago on the 6th month and(+) the 24th day.

Here is an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold

Kenneth Arnold saw very strange flying objects on 6/24/1947. It follows that if the objects were intelligently manipulated by non-human intelligence and that intelligence saw Kenneth, then the encounter between the ET's and earthlings would be a historical event for the alien guys. Because they are aliens, their way of selecting a special anniversary may not follow our customs where, for example, there is no meaningful difference between let's say the 10th anniversary and the 20th anniversary. We just go by our decimal system and that's good enough.

Not so for the ET's though. They skipped the 10th and the 20th anniversary of the historical encounter with Kenneth Arnold, but they decided to observe the 30th anniversary. That's because they saw Kenneth inside his ancient flying machine on 6/24 earth time and 6+24=30. That anniversary took place in the year of 1977. (1947+30=1977).

And so the ET's decided to abduct a few earthlings as advisers and the question was: What would be the best way to commemorate the historical event, so the earthlings would be also involved?

One of the abducted earthlings suggested to the ET's to make a movie about an encounter between space guys and earthlings - something that the earth folks would really like.

The ET's gave it the go-ahead and that's how the 1977 movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind came about - with the help of telepathy.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/

Wait a minute! Why those three guys, who got abducted to advice the ET's, hadn't approached the UFO researchers to share their experience? Well, they never came back - one would have to be a complete idiot to do so. Or do you think that an ordinary person from the 14th century whom we would abduct couldn't wait to get back to his lovely dark-aged world?

 
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 62   Crop Circles / Looking farther back...  on: Jun 13th, 2017, 2:45pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A8bXRsz_lks/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iOSF7IM1twM/maxresdefault.jpg

There is one and important feature in the above design that dates way back to 1988, namely the feature of intersecting components. If a group of college graduates were asked to provide a two-word description of what they see inside the ring, there would be two kind of answers:

1) star, crescent
2) crescent, star


The (1) choice would probably make majority in the answers, because the star is the larger one of the two symbols and we usually decide that way. But as you see, that criterion of choice is not what organizes those two words. Consider (2): It is clear from the photo that the crescent is partly covered by the star. That arrangement creates an impression of the crescent being laid down first with the star being placed later on top.

Why did the circle makers use this type of arrangement? It could go the other way as well: first comes the star and then the crescent is placed on top of it.

Well, that wouldn't work as far as the extraction of the future date 15/7 is concerned.

Please follow the construction: First came the crescent - a whole object with number one attached to it. Then came the star that "cut" the crescent into five pieces. That two-step sequence of events creates number onefive or 15 --> fifteen. So if the crescent is now made of five segments through the cutting/dividing implication, how many components is the star made of?

It is a seven-pointed star, so the number of "components" is 7. And that's how the date 15/7 was sequentially constructed.

(Crescent --> Star) => 15/7 or 15 July

That encoded future date corresponds with a future event.

"On 15 July 2016, an alleged coup d'ťtat was attempted in Turkey against state institutions, including, but not limited to the government and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

Please pay attention to the seven plants-up segments appearing within the star. In case they were omitted, the number assigned to the star could be easily just 1, because we would see one star with no indication to use a closer description "seven-pointed star." In that case the sequential count would change:

(Crescent --> Star) => A or B?
A=15 1 (apart)
B=151 (together)


Choice B=151 (the star lies on top of the crescent, therefore both items are not apart) takes us as an important reminder back to 1996 - again to the vicinity of Stonehenge.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/Sorensen/croppies2002/Julia-one-Post-Card2.jpg

"This Julia Set Fractal appeared as a sensational crop circle, opposite Stonehenge on 7th July 1996. It contained 151 circles..."

Choice B is an implied reference made to the 20th anniversary of the appearance of the extraordinary crop circle whose purpose was completely misunderstood - namely the issue of Whole versus Part and What versus When.





 
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 63   General UFO & Alien Board / The 70th Kenneth A. Arnold Sighting Anniversary  on: Jun 12th, 2017, 3:09pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
It's coming up in a couple of weeks. It was Kenneth Arnold's observation of nine strange objects, which he saw while piloting his small plane, that set the stage for the Roswell incident. Actually last year was the "proper" anniversary, because Kenneth Arnold died at the age of 69 - and so did David Bowie (January 10, 2016 - aged 69) in the first month and Greg Lake (December 7, 2016 - aged 69) of ELP fame in the last month, with unusually high number of musicians in between. No wonder that CNN called 2016 "the year that music died."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/entertainment/musician-deaths-2016-year-music-died/index.html

But according to the Steven Spielberg movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," it was music - those repeating five tones coming from the huge UFO - that brought the folks of this planet to a certain degree of awareness. The movie was a fiction, or maybe a semi-fiction, but the reality may look completely different and shockingly unexpected. After all, we share with others a place called Universe, which is 13.8 billion years old.

Isn't it strange that Kenneth Arnold saw 9 objects and 9 happens to be 6 written upside down? Both symbols are geometric opposites and that makes them a prime choice to be used as digits to mean opposites, such as the first and the last, or presence and absence. The SETI uses digits 1 and 0 instead for the purpose of sending out messages, like "Is there anybody out there?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message

But 1 and 0 don't imply opposites to the members of an alien world, as symbols 6 and 9 clearly do. So they use 6 and 9 instead. The problem is that the guys at SETI created the living universe "to their image, to their likeness," and squarely ignored the message that the ETs left for them with Kenneth Arnold - and some of the aging rock stars.

So I think the 70th anniversary wouldn't be so heavily observed by the alien world as the 69th anniversary was.
 
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 64   Crop Circles / Looking back...  on: Jun 12th, 2017, 08:45am
Started by travex | Post by travex
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A8bXRsz_lks/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iOSF7IM1twM/maxresdefault.jpg

http://img2.ct24.cz/cache/616x411/article/4/388/38743.jpg

Even after nearly a year, the purpose of the resemblance between the Stonehenge crop circle of July 8, 2016 and the Islamic symbol already mentioned by Sys_Config remains unexplained. I mean, what in the world got Islam to do with a site whose history passes Islam and reaches deep into the neolithic era?

To find the answer, one must go through the palette of options made of state flags that feature a star and crescent. There are at least thirteen such flags and the circle makers asked to pick one. Choose wisely...

But if I pick the flag of Turkey,
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how would I know that my choice was right or wrong?

Well, as always, you find the correct answer on the front page of a newspaper shortly thereafter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/16/turkey-has-had-lots-of-coups-heres-why-this-one-failed/

Wow! Do I get a cosmic banana for that?

Note, however, that the star in the crop circle design is not a five-pointed star, but seven-pointed one. That's because that number tells you when the correct answer becomes available. In this case the coup d'etat in Turkey took place exactly seven days after the Stonehenge crop circle had been reported.

And that's why the Islamic symbol of a crescent and star appeared by the ancient site of Stonehenge; it is because Stonehenge has a older brother named Gobekli Tepe who lives in Turkey.

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/354/cache/gobekli-full_35417_600x450.jpg

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/

But there is another, much harder question coming: How did the hoaxers know that there would be a news-making military coup d'etat in Turkey after seven days when even the best government analysts didn't see that coming?

Actually it is not that hard: the hoaxers are simply much smarter guys then all senior analysts working for CIA and NSA combined.

Really?

Well, wasn't that crop circle by Stonehenge sufficient evidence of that?

What do you think? huh
 
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 65   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 18th, 2016, 5:48pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 9th, 2016, 09:21am, LoneGunMan wrote:
Much of your reasoning is also flawed!

You should at least point to a couple of examples where you think my reasoning was flawed. But I'm well aware of the fact that such an inclusion is not what the UFO religion stands on, apart from the practice of keeping fanatic believers within certain limits (see the recent Southwest airline case). The Roman Catholic Church has a similar practice to filter out claims of alleged miracles that, when accepted, would make a laughing stock out of the Church. But there is a substantial difference between both systems of belief. Unlike the UFO, the RCC doesn't make implicitly an idiot out of the object of its worship.

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Being confrontational is fine ..if you knew what the hell you're talking about. I can change ANY Wiki fact to corroborate a finding with the click of a mouse! Some of the people you 'quote' have a problem with honesty.

Firstly, I knew what I was talking about - I can count. I used a certain wording only once, and that person whom you advocate for claimed that I had used the wording several times. Secondly, I already explained what my intention with Wikipedia was. You apparently ignored the explanation. Not that I would be surprised by that ...

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Your own conclusions leave much to be desired. Betty Hill was a much loved member here.

Betty Hill always played a role of a messiah or a saint for the UFO flock - and nothing more than that. That's why further reference by the ET's to her and Barney's case has gone by completely unnoticed. That's why you won't be able to make any sense of "RUWACO" even after fifty million years.

Quote:
What you are is an aggregater.... and not a very good one! Cherry picking 'facts' doesn't further your argument nor is attacking one who asks pertinent questions only to be 'de-bunked' by someone who complains about de-bunkers!

LOL. That guy can't even find my quotes to support his claims. He can hardly debunk a cockroach.

When I was here the last time, you had only two yellow stars - or three? And now... look at that! Keep your faith up high and who knows... You would surely make a fine Bishop of Roswell. grin
 
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 66   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 9th, 2016, 04:00am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 7th, 2016, 7:08pm, dave54 wrote:
You cite wikipedia as a source. Fail. At the end of every wikipedia article is a list of sources used.

You don't cite anything because, your misguided ideas don't have a match in the real world. You junk Wikipedia without giving one single reason for doing so. That's a Dark Age practice that apparently suits you the best.
I didn't say that at the end of Wikipedia are no sources used. My reference was meant to be general, like yes, the term "alien implant" does exist outside the UFO gospels.

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In several cases you used the phrase "It is possible that..." That is a lazy and cowardly way of supporting an argument.

Well, you apparently didn't accept that 51=51, on which the possibility I raised stood. Remember?
"It is also possible that some aliens who are alleged to live in Area 51, (I hope that you accept that 51=51) called the feds and told them to end the stand-off."
Note that I said that "I hoped," because you can easily deny that 1+1=2, as I noticed from your very first reply. Learn the meaning of the word "several," because I used "It is also possible..." only once, not several times, as your claims run wilder still.

I don't feel like wasting my time and keep replying to a troll. Yawn...


 
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 67   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 7th, 2016, 4:32pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 7th, 2016, 12:01pm, dave54 wrote:
You claimed the aliens told the FBI to attack the Waco compound on the 51st day, then denied it.

You seem to have the habit of misinterpreting what others said. You also seem to have certain difficulties to understand the meaning of the word "quotation," because you don't use it to support your claims. You also doesn't understand the meaning of the word "contradiction."

In the case of the federal agents at Waco, it is clear to anyone except you that the agents were nor aware of who actually changed their mind on the 51st day of the standoff - the District of Columbia day (not an officially recognized day). It is also possible that some aliens who are alleged to live in Area 51, (I hope that you accept that 51=51) called the feds and told them to end the stand-off.

The cardinals of the UFO religion failed the ordinary/special test: The first 50 days at Waco were ordinary, because each of them involved negotiation. Then comes the 51st day, and the compound goes up in flames and that assigns a special flavor to number 51. The same goes for the Areas in the Nevada desert. There are all ordinary, except for Area 51, which is supposedly infested with aliens. Isn't that a bit coincidental? What's the matter with that number 51?

Here is a "numerological" arithmetic for you: rabid UFO believers + deranged debunkers = epic fail of reason.
 
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 68   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 6th, 2016, 9:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 4th, 2016, 8:49pm, dave54 wrote:
Your argument is the absence of evidence is proof of existence.

This is nonsensical.

But I never argued anything that would inspire you to comment like that. You need to quote my sentences that contain a particular argument that you are not happy with and show where you think it squeaks. Otherwise your reply is a baseless assertion.
 
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 69   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 4th, 2016, 6:21pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 4th, 2016, 12:13pm, dave54 wrote:
Your original post claims there is some mystic symbology to the number 51. There is not. It is just a sequential number designating a block of land. There also is an Area 50 and Area 52, as well as 1, 2, 3, etc. You never hear of those because nothing of conspiracy theorist interest happen there.

I asked you to quote me on your allegiation that I refered to some "Dreamland." You failed. Now you say that I claimed some "mystic symbology" to the number 51 attached to a word.

Nonsense. There is nothing mystic about it. If I tell you to choose one designated area from Area 1 to Area 99, you'll take a random choice, because you wouldn't be able to tell them apart, even If I tell you that the areas are owned by the US government. You will just fail to come up with an applicable criterion of choice.

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You also state U.S. Presidents have had alien implants. Care to mention which ones, and what is the source of your assertion?

You imply millions of people have have implants. Again, what is your source?

The source is the UFO messaging service, known as simply UFO.

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I do not know of a single documented case where an extricated foreign body was determined to be an extraterrestial tracking or communication device. There are a lot of "I do not know what it is". That does not prove it is an extraterrestial implant. Can you cite a case where an extricated lump was determined to be such a device?

Let me quote myself:
"Without the UFO messaging service, we would never find out that some alien implants (not really solid objects) exist and how they work."

That's why a neurosurgeon would never find any foreign object in the brain of a person who would claim having one. The term "alien implant" is a term which is understood by UFOlogists as far as its purpose is concerned, but it doesn't described the actual technology involved. The universe is much, much smarter than that.

Quote:
And the claim aliens orchestrated the Waco incident is pretty bizarre.

That's your emotional response, but hardly logical one. Btw, it is not a claim, but a hypothesis.
 
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 70   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Sep 3rd, 2016, 1:57pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Sep 3rd, 2016, 12:04pm, dave54 wrote:
Nice try at inventing a story, the real story of Area 51 is more mundane.

When the area was first being laid out as the Nevada Test Site in the early 1950s the subdivided blocks were numbered on a map, starting at 1, the highest number in the 60s IIRC. In 1955 the military needed a secret test site for their experimental aircraft, most notably the U2. Several unused blocks of the Nevada Test Site were deemed suitable, the one chosen was the block that contained an old dried alkali lake bed, Groom Lake. This block was number 51 on the preexisting Nevada Test Site maps.


Your explanation never runs on contrary to what I said. An idea suggested by the intervention of an alien implant is in 99% of cases rational one, as it needs to be. How do you think that "speaking monkeys" like us learned to leave the caves to form some sort of civilization as we know it today?

Without the UFO messaging service, we would never find out that some alien implants (not really solid objects) exist and how they work.

An alien implant simply takes over the human mind and a targeted person becomes a robot that receives instructions - for good or bad. If the aliens want us to know whether a person acted under an "alien influence," they would simply create a set of coincidental arrangements that under normal or "free" conditions can hardly materialize.

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You also see some references to Dreamland in the web world, and all kinds of claims of secret meaning to the word, or some contrived acronym. Dreamland is merely a radio call sign for the complex. The word has no secret meaning or symbolism. The word Dreamland was chosen because it is easy to remember, understandable in a static filled or garbled radio transmission and unlikely to be confused with any other radio call sign in the region.

I never mentioned any Dreamland. Can you quote me?
That's what alien implants are also beneficial to Homo sapiens. They help the species to better focus.


 
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 71   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO tampered with Southwest 3472 engine in fli  on: Aug 31st, 2016, 11:16am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 30th, 2016, 11:54am, LoneGunMan wrote:
I'm not saying aliens don't exist or have been here. I'm saying in this instance there is no 'proof' at all that this was a UFO encounter.

Proof? But the picture
http://www.strangerdimensions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/saint-giovannino-aliens.jpg
speaks of no proof, for a religion stands just on faith alone...

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It's all bluster and innuendo! Someone making nothing into something that isn't there!
Lone

How do you know if something isn't there? If you can't see something, others might. Like that little boy in the pic.
https://pix.sfly.com/B4yCdH

He's looking exactly at the center point of the painting. So if you look at the center ( ) of Flight 3472, that means at the number itself, you see nothing.

34( )72.

But the center could be also the middle digits

3(47)2

and you see something. Something that is similar to 1947, the year when the poor aliens didn't make the sharp turn at Roswell and crashed.

But there is nothing much going between Southwest (Airlines), which is marked 8:30 on the face of the clock, and 3472. So the aliens didn't shoot the passenger plane down, because no relation good for pulling the trigger while aiming at the plane was there. It was just a shot over the bow.

One of the real proofs of UFO being the real deal are some of the notable plane crashes. Why do you think the alleged crashed alien disk at Roswell was recovered by the US airmen? Is there a better clue link?
 
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 72   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: UFO tampered with Southwest 3472 engine in fli  on: Aug 30th, 2016, 08:21am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 29th, 2016, 11:37pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
There are no less than 2 commercial flights an hour passing each other on that route. That's not counting the hundreds of private flights to and from Orlando and NOr'Lanz!! Plus all the other airports in between! He saw another planes landing lights. On crowded flight routes that's quite normal. Even during daylight hours!

If someone can show me interviews and competent reports I might change my mind but this sounds like so much BS!

You are not attempting some unclean critical thinking tricks, are you? angry

http://www.strangerdimensions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/saint-giovannino-aliens.jpg
 
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 73   General UFO & Alien Board / Alien Abduction and Area 51  on: Aug 27th, 2016, 04:09am
Started by travex | Post by travex
The template for the mechanics of the alien abduction has become the case of Barney and Betty Hill. There is an explanation supplied by the skeptics, but it can be shown as insufficient.

According to the skeptic/debunker view, Barney and Betty misidentified something in the sky, later spreading a story about them encountering a UFO. Later still, the word reached John G. Fuller who realized that the incident itself was not enough to write a book about, and so he made with the Hills a deal.

From that point a certain pattern started to develop. Unsuspecting folks live their lives in the rational frame of things up to one nice night when they spot something strange in the sky... It doesn't take long and they face a swinging pendulum as a specialized hypnotherapy expert tries to unblock their memory, which contains a tale of alien abduction.

Clearly the super-advanced alien neuroscience that is responsible for the memory blockage is no match for a far less sophisticated method of pendulum swinging. Btw, a pint of Johnny Walker may block memory too - it depends...

Why would the aliens try to block the memory of the abductees? Is it because they secretly placed an implant into the brain of selected earthlings?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_implants

It follows that without having some surprising UFO experience, a person may never even suspect that he or she has been abducted and a chip has been placed inside the cerebral area.

So who has been wearing the bug lately?

The answer is circling around Area 51...

We know what "area" means, but what is the meaning of the numerical assignment - that number 51?

The installation in the Nevada desert known as "Area 51" is run by the US Government. Since the USA is a collection of 50 states plus the District of Columbia, where the feds are mostly located, it only make sense to assign number 51 to a place run by the government, even though the District of Columbia is not officially the 51st state.

But, much more importantly, the assignment 51 is in compliance with a coding method that only the aliens use, where the last two letters of a word define the following number:

AREA<-->51

Since E is the 5th letter and A is the 1st letter in the alphabet, it follows that

If E=5 and A=1 then EA=51.

Hence "arEA 51."

Now it follows by implication that some federal employees have alien implant in their heads without even having the slightest idea that it is so.

Let's test the daring hypothesis. Fortunately the aliens were so kind to provide an example case when the brain implants were activated. Just follow the feds around until you come across number 51 in a rather significant way ...

A 51-day siege ensued, ending with an FBI assault during which the compound burned down...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

The feds were really trying hard for 50 days to end the standoff peacefully through a patient negotiation while being well aware of the volatility of the situation. Comes along the 51st day and the implants were activated in connection with Area 51 and its link to the aliens.

Come on, feds! Today is the District of Columbia day, you know, the 51st "state." That's your day, so give those religious freaks hell. Good luck.

Next time, we look at some of the US presidents who had an alien implant. Or do you think that the aliens only stick the darn thing into the head of some nobodies? How do you imagine the aliens would then run this world, forcrysake?


 
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 74   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: WWI "Red Baron" proves that Bob Laza  on: Aug 25th, 2016, 12:23am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 9th, 2016, 9:16pm, Nyx wrote:
The WWI Red Baron's wing man, Peter Waitz Rick, reported to the German air force that Baron Richthofen ( red baron ) went after a large silver disc near the air field which also turned orange.

The Red Baron fired on the silver disc and damaged its antenna on the top center of the craft which made the disc land.

Once the disc landed, two aliens fled into the nearby forest.

http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2016/08/germany-reports-that-red-baron-shot.html


After this incident, The Joint Command issued new directives relating to the study of human activities, which prohibited the crew of GK vehicles (UFO's) to come within 20 miles of the point of interest, because the ET's could encounter superior technologies, like the Red Baron's Fokker triplane. That's why you never see a UFO near any story-developing action that CNN is very keen to follow.

What happened to those two aliens who fled to the woods?

A lost British infantryman claimed having seen two terrified beings running due north-east. They appeared to be in shock yelling at him, "Fokker... Fokker!" The infantrymen didn't like the gross impertinence and a fistfight ensued.

Both ET's were later captured by a German artillery officer. The taller ET being, nicknamed Fritz, died in 1928 in the Berlin Zoo. There is no record of what happened to his companion.

Germans also recovered the crash-landed disk and later tried to build a replica.
http://www.ufo-contact.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Nazi-UFO.jpeg
 
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 75   Crop Circles / Re: Just amazing crop circle 19 miles from Stonehe  on: Aug 23rd, 2016, 12:58am
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Aug 13th, 2016, 9:46pm, Nyx wrote:
This crop circle has really gotten attention in the area because it is very complex.

Crop circles are meant for someone in the sky, not people on the ground.

http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/amazing-crop-circle-appears-at-ansty-farm-shop/story-29616220-detail/story.html


That's a Mothershipglass logo.
https://mothershipglass.com/?age-verified=e22ea6293f

The company is located past Pluto and sells cool things, which are unfortunately too expensive.
 
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 76   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 7:51pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 22nd, 2016, 07:50am, MOKSHA wrote:
1 2 3

4 5 6

7 8 9





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG3wXWPa_qA

grin

The UFO code 369 used to stand for the phenomenon of extra sensory perception - ESP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasensory_perception

Code etymology:
Since ESP stands also for Earth, Saturn, Pluto - the 3rd, the 6th, and the 9th planets of the solar system, the code 369 was adopted for ESP. But since Pluto is no longer considered a planet by the astronomers, the ET's discontinued the usage of code 369, except in connection with meditation (369 Hz sound and so on).

The original code 369 wasn't that practical anyway, because the position of Pluto is extremely difficult to establish for the time before 1885 and after 2099, so it's hard to predict what would mankind "extrasense" again when the Earth---Saturn---Pluto alignment takes place.

 
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 77   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 02:31am
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 20th, 2016, 9:48pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
I believe in codes Travex....welcome btw !

I believe there is an order to the chaos theory. What that is, IDK yet. I DO know that there are "certain" (I will label) "coincidences" that happen to apply with unknown variables in certain situations.

I will leave it at that, for now..... undecided

Nikola Tesla himself stressed the importance of 3,6,and 9. wink

Cliff



I'm "fairly certain" there is even more to it...I'm not "advanced enough" in mathematics....what do I know ?


smiley cool


Thanks, Cliff.

There is a certain benefit in not being "advanced" in some fields - it makes you keep wondering...

The reason for that 9 coming up all the time, as it shows in your video, lies in the property of the decimal system.

According to the following short article, the 360-degree circle is 4400 years old.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/science/wonderquest/2002-06-21-circle.htm

Here is a case for 4 and 5 is 9:

The following pic looks like a crop circle
http://www.maar.us/asteroid_belt-bw.gif
but it is not. The ring-like feature that resides between the 4th and the 5th planet of our solar system is the belt where asteroids live. They spend their time doing nothing but making 360 degree turns around the sun.

But sometimes it happens that two asteroids collide with one another and the collision throws them off their circular path. From that point on, they may assume an orbit that is no longer a circle but an ellipse, and they may cross the earth's orbit.

So if an ellipse is similar to a circle
http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/c/Images/circle-ellipse.gif
and circle=360 (degrees), then an ellipse should be assigned a number similar to 360.

There are five possibilities to make a similar number to 360:

a) 306 b) 630 c) 603 d) 036 e) 063

The ET's apparently chose ellipse=306, because one of the off-course asteroid ignored the stop sign and collided with the earth's atmosphere on 30.6., or 30. June, in Tunguska and became DOA before managing to make a crater.

That's probably the reason why the ET's chose this particular day/month for their luminous hoax. Given the circumstances, the date doesn't appear to be random with respect to the circular and elliptical orbits of asteroids.

 
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 78   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 21st, 2016, 7:47pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 21st, 2016, 06:51am, INT21 wrote:
Travex,

There are a lot of maybes etc in your OP.

I couldn't include all what is needed to make things tighter.

Quote:
And the idea of some aliens diverting asteroids is sheer bunk.

That's what the majority of experts in the 19th century said about flying machines heavier than air, for example. But unlike you, they at least complemented their assertion with a reason based on their belief.

Lots of claims we would make to a 17th century educated person would be considered sheer bunk. Walking on the moon? Okay, that's it. I've heard enough.

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The whole numerology bit likewise. You can reduce any number, no mater how long, down to a number between 0 and 9.
HAL
INT21

What did inspire you to mention numerology? There in not a single instance in the OP where a number would be reduced to a single digit from 1 to 9 and its meaning interpreted.

Solving equations, like 2 + 15 = x + y, is not numerology.

We use codes all the time. I mean we mostly use "stupid" codes, which are strings of numbers or letters, or a combination of both, which are arbitrary. Here is an example from the HTTP Status and Error Codes:

403 = Forbidden
https://www.panthur.com.au/img/kbase/litespeed-403.jpg

Does number 403 imply that something is forbidden?
This is crazy...

The ET's use "clever" codes, meaning that there is an association between the code number and Forbidden - the code number "would make sense." For example, they might use

217 = Forbidden.

See the difference?

Since the nature can't read, it can't acquire knowledge, and so it can't include in its works a reference that would appear to an observer as a set of very strange coincidences.

The ET's tried to teach the basic coding and decoding techniques through the UFO appearances....
 
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 79   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 20th, 2016, 9:27pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 20th, 2016, 6:47pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Hmmmmm..... wink

This might have messed things up a bit.....codes and all.....

http://mentalfloss.com/article/51370/why-our-calendars-skipped-11-days-1752

undecided


Not so for time data limited to years with respect to geology. But for Tunguska-like events that were witnessed with the day, month, and year recorded, the Gregorian calendar, or the N.S. (New Style) date can be applied across the board I guess, as implied by the Tunguska event, which took place on 30. June, 1908 (N.S.) Since 1908 was a leap year, the date 30. June is the last day of the first half of that year, and the very next day, 1. July, is the first day of the second half. (Special event/special time.)

How would you choose between those two dates?

The ET's chose the first option. But is the end of the first half a more logical option than the beginning of the last half with respect to the circumstances?

I think it is an open question. I would choose 1. July, or 1/7, because

a) 1+7 = 8 = ASTEROID ( the word is 8 letters long)
b) 1+7 = 8 = TUNGUSKA ( the word is also 8 letters long)


But the ET's chose the previous day, 30. June.
huh

Now go figure...

 
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 80   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 20th, 2016, 9:03pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 19th, 2016, 4:31pm, INT21 wrote:
Anyway, your post heading says 'The Tunguska Mystery Solved.'

I'm still waiting for the answer.

HAL
INT21

I thought that the OP was sufficiently explanatory - the Tunguska bolide was an asteroid, not a comet. Its trajectory wasn't given by the nature but the ET's who use equations to set things apart: what is the nature and what is not. The same can be said about the Chelyabinsk bolide whose apparition surprised the experts so much.

A meteorites crater is possibly the only way to establish the time when the earth came under the protection of an ET civilization that has discovered out planet. Some believe that we are the only curious creatures in the universe who have searched for intelligent extraterrestrial life, but that's a wrong belief.

If you can redirect an asteroid, you can make two craters having a relation that couldn't be possibly random. So if the older crater was made some fifty million years ago, for example, then you know the ET's were here long before us.

 
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 81   General UFO & Alien Board / Re: The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 19th, 2016, 4:26pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
on Aug 19th, 2016, 11:15am, Cliff-67 wrote:
There was also Chelyabinsk recently...

And many other events and impacts around the world for millenia...

smiley


That's true, but we are still here. You don't really have to deflect anything, which doesn't threaten humankind. Moreover, if you divert all crater-forming space junk away from the earth, then human scientists would later figure out the likelihood that the earth would be hit by such objects, but there would be no craters found. Such oddity would become a hard problem to solve - not so for the folks in the Vatican, though.

Imagine a large part of earth surface designated 12/21/2012 (two thousand twelve). Here comes a giant space rock, five times the size of Mt. Everest, hits the surface thereby creating a humongous crater in the surface 12/21/2012. That effect looks like this:

12/21/20 12 (twenty twelve).

Where would you find the impact crater?

You need to theoretically examine the crater itself and find what could create it. The computer model tells you that the space object looks like 8, because

20 - 8 = 12.

Since "asteroid" is a collection of 8 letters, you conclude that the crater was caused by an asteroid and not a comet.

That's nice, but where exactly would the impact zone be?

Since 12/21/2012 is also a date rumored to be the time of an unprecedented catastrophe, add that 8 to that date and wait...

12/21/2012 + 8 (weeks) = 2/15/2013

Here we go...



Why would the ET redirect a symbolic, message carrying asteroid to illuminate the sky over Russia once again?

Have you ever heard the expression "playing Russian Roulette?" That's exactly what you do, mankind. Build your own protective shield, because it's becoming too expensive to maintain and we're leaving anyway. Build your own UFO's too.

 
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 82   General UFO & Alien Board / The Tunguska Mystery Solved  on: Aug 18th, 2016, 9:43pm
Started by travex | Post by travex
The study of asteroids and comets, and ever-increasing computing power have left the scientists with better understanding of what might have happened over Tunguska region back in 1908.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

Okay, the cause for the devastation was a super-bolide. This description refers to the way the object is behaving after it enters the atmosphere, but it doesn't answer the question whether the intruder from space was a comet or an asteroid.

Does it even matter? There is really no way of telling unless... Unless the menacing object was redirected away from densely populated areas. Once you gain control over the object, you can choose its destination.

That would be nice if we had a shield installed that would protect our planet against killer asteroids or comets. Until we build it - if ever - we must rely on the alien-built protective shield. But is there anything like that?

If there were, the Tunguska super-bolide would have been completely redirected away from the earth - unless the aliens wanted the earthlings know that the earth is being protected against similar events that could seriously harm or even wipe out human population. The question whether the super-bolide was an icy comet, or a dark, ugly-looking asteroid is solved by setting up a match race between a comet and an asteroid. Whatever wins gets a free ticket to Tunguska.

There are two possible ways the race could end:

1) COMET, ASTEROID | finish line
2) ASTEROID, COMET | finish line


Those who bet on the asteroid winning the race can joyfully approach the windows, because the asteroid won by six lengths (------):

COMET------ASTEROID

Those who learned something from the UFO appearances surely know why the comet won by that margin.

comeT------Asteroid

Just replace the dashes by what is applicable in this case:

comeTUNGUSKAsteroid

That's a pretty long string of letters. How many of them are there? 1, 2, 3, ...

cometunguskasteroid = 19

Now count the length of the part of that long string that identifies the name of the affected region

tunguska = 08

and the whole arrangement returns the year the event took place:

cometunguskasteroid=1908=tunguska

Note that what exploded over Tunguska is described by a word above "TUNGUSKA" that has the same length as the name of the region.

ASTEROID
TUNGUSKA


Both words have the same number of letters: 8

This clever WHAT=WHEN=WHERE arrangement is only possible if you gain a full control of a space body aiming for the earth.

Not everyone would agree, though. For example, the folks at NASA or SETI would be among the first to call it a bunch of coincidences, because their deep scientific knowledge gives them a clear picture of an ET civilization that discovered our planet some eighty million years ago. Why would the ET's build some anti-asteroid shield around their precious find to protect the extremely rare case of life in the universe? Heck, we live here and have built no shield like that. So why would they? And we see no alien protective shield around our planet anyway.

Maybe it is made of the "dark matter," which is something no one can see too, yet, according to the esteemed scientists, is out there.

 
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 83   TODAY'S OFF-TOPIC NEWS / Re: Is Trump Just Plain Nuts?  on: Aug 10th, 2016, 03:06am
Started by GhostofEd | Post by travex
on Aug 8th, 2016, 12:18pm, Swamprat wrote:
Many folks are now thinking Trump will back out of the race within weeks. I still cannot decide whether the below article is the accurate explanation, or whether he and the Clintons agreed on this a long time ago.....


Trump's Love Affair with Presidency is Over

Dahleen Glanton
Chicago Tribune

There is only one reasonable explanation for Donald Trump's erratic behavior in recent weeks.



Yes, there is. Trump, like many other notable people, has an alien implant in his brain that helps him to succeed. Obviously he, like the other implanted guys, is unaware of it and ascribes his success to his "wisdom." From the beginning of his campaign, he has displayed peculiar behavior, which is the signal to look at the string PRESIDENT. The UFO codes call for the following:

The word PRESIDENT is also a collection of initials - you can create 36 different initials, like P. R., P. E., R. S., E. N., and so on, going from left to right. Which of the 36 cases is unique?

Well, considering only the first name and the last name, it follows that first is the opposite of last as 6 is opposite to 9, as you turn 6 the opposite way. That means the 6th and the 9th letters in PRESIDENT must be the unique initials. In this case the initials are D. T. and belong to name Donald Trump.

Learn the UFO codes, guys, learn the future so you wouldn't be surprised by a sudden turn of events of the nasty kind.
 
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 84   Crop Circles / Re: How did a crop circle appear near to Stoneheng  on: Aug 8th, 2016, 1:40pm
Started by Nyx | Post by travex
on Jul 18th, 2016, 2:15pm, GhostofEd wrote:
I read it and once it started to drift into the "negative energy" theories and anecdotal accounts it lost a lot of it's credibility for me.


Newbie here. Hello to all.

Unfortunately the phenomenon has been used by various groups to pursue their own interest and so there has been little done to redirect the investigation where it is supposed to be. The crop circles represent a hypothetical environment and there are rules and methods that need to be applied. "I want to believe"- a slogan often used with the UFO - throws the subject right into the arms of some religion and its practices. Unless the slogan is replaced by "let's assume," events that defy easy explanation would keep falling into wrong hands.

How the Stonehenge crop formation was done?

The answer depends on who is the author. If it is another case of landscape art, then the technology used was a rope and a plank. If it is a case of "non-human landscape art"... Here is the problem. If you stumble upon a crop circle researcher who would refer to the alleged elusive non-human circle makers as "cosmic artists," you know that something is not right with his/her approach to the mystery.

Lets' assume that some crop circles are not the result of a human activity. Would you easily accept the idea that the sole purpose of the manifestation was to introduce a new form of landscape art to humans?

If it is not the case, then there must be a difference in the formation design. People who do the crop circles see themselves as landscape artists and so their work is hardly informative. Moreover, their activity doesn't call for carefully choosing the environment where their art would appear - they wouldn't sweat over a question which "canvas" to choose and when is the right time to start painting, for example. They may chose a field in the close vicinity to Stonehenge, but their design would hardly acknowledge the monument.

But the alternative source of the crop circles does the same thing!

Really? Look again.

This year marks the 20th anniversary of the creation of then much debated formation near Stonehenge called the Julia set. It was reported on 7. July. The present formation near Stonehenge was reported on 8. July. Which date is more appropriate for hitting a field in the vicinity of Stonehenge?

The landscape artists could care less, so answering the question could set things nicely apart.

 
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