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hyundisonata
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« Thread started on: Aug 4th, 2007, 6:30pm » |
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Can anyone explain what happened to myself and my brother, we left to go and collect samples of sand from a quarry sixteen miles from our work ,it was a nice sunny day and we where both relaxed and very normal, we left at one fifteen pm and arrived at the quarry at twenty five to two, it is a straight road with very little traffic and no traffic lights ect as it is in the country, we left at quarter to two but did not arrive back at the work until four fifteen, there is a small section of road that I cannot remember driving about four hundred meters, before reaching this section I was behind a blue corsa and a red transit van ,for some reason I cannot remember where the car and van went as they where not in front of me at the end of the four hundred meters there is no turn off so they should have been in front of me all the way along the road, after this section my brother was acting weird singing let it be over and over and also in-between the repetitive song saying things like I cant feel my hand or I need to go home or get me home or I cant feel my legs all the time getting more panic stricken then started screaming for me to stop the truck as he had to get out ,this I did at the first space I reached, he got out and started walking around in a circle still repeating the song and saying I need to get home he was very grey ,what I thought of him at the time reminded me of Dustin Hoffman when he played the part in the rain man he was talking very fast in-between singing the two words of the song over and over, I got him back into the truck and speeded back to work thinking he was having a fit I was doing eighty and was back in no time, it was then that I found out it was four fifteen and we had taken three hours to do a trip that at the most should have been one hour ,we did not stop except at the quarry have repeated the trip several times and it has taken forty five minutes, I got my brother into our car did not waste time telling anyone as I had to get him home ,we got the doctor in and he told us he has had a panic attack and would be ok in a short while ,he was wrong as my brother ended up in hospital the only thing they could find was he had very low oxygen levels in his blood and a very fast heart beat, I at this time was fine every thing seemed normal ,when I got home I started feeling funny the next thing I know its sixteen hours later my wife just thought I was tired and left me sleeping ,I normally only sleep about three to four hours so this was very abnormal for me ,it was not until the next day it dawned on me we had lost two hours time on that four hundred meter stretch of road my brother cant remember anything before he started singing except the car and van we where behind but cannot remember where they went we both have a total blank about the two hours, any ideas on what must have happened or how to find out would be most helpful
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Re: what hapened
« Reply #1 on: Aug 4th, 2007, 11:33pm » |
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Wow. That's a tough one. Obviously you posted here because you think that you might have been involved in an abduction with missing time. I would ask what brought that possibility to mind, in other words, have you had any sightings or any other events like this happen in the past? I would rule out the more obvious first, the medical questions, which it seems was your first course of action.
Does it sound like a typical (if there is such a thing) abduction scenario? I'd have to yes. Whether or not you decide to follow up aggressively through regressive hypnosis or wait and see what might come back to you over time, is a very personal decision. Your brother has obviously gone through a trauma of some sort, perhaps it would be best to see how things progress from here. You might have been along for the ride, as it were, and more of an observer.
It would be a good idea to start keeping a journal of your dreams as quite often bits and pieces of the experience are recalled in this way. I'd also recommend visiting Budd Hopkins Intruders Foundation or the late John Macks site and read some of the material there.
I wish you both the very best and I'm sure some of our other members will have some suggestions for you as well.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 12:03am » |
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on Aug 4th, 2007, 6:30pm, hyundisonata wrote:| Can anyone explain what happened to myself and my brother, we left to go and collect samples of sand from a quarry sixteen miles from our work ,it was a nice sunny day and we where both relaxed and very normal, we left at one fifteen pm and arrived at the quarry at twenty five to two, it is a straight road with very little traffic and no traffic lights ect as it is in the country, we left at quarter to two but did not arrive back at the work until four fifteen |
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When did this take place? What year?
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hyundisonata
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 06:00am » |
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the date was 01/08/07 on the A70 outside edinburgh uk we have never had anything like this hapen to us and have always put ufos down to goverments,i have seen blue balls of light and white balls being chased by the RAF and have seen above the A70 what i called a sosage link it was two orange tube shaped objects that looked joined loosely together very hight up well above the flight paths and very large,we have both dreamed of going through water but thats all ,no grey men or space ships ect
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 11:25am » |
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 06:00am, hyundisonata wrote:| we have both dreamed of going through water but thats all ,no grey men or space ships ect |
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Interactions with ET's can be very, very different as every member here who is an abductee or contactee will attest. Some have had negative experiences followed by years of unsettling or painful "side effects" Some have had fairly benign experiences. There are many levels and you'll find them fairly well represented here. Regardless of where our individual experience falls in this spectrum, getting to the bottom of what the purpose is seems paramount. Not everyone has their memory blocked, why, I have no idea. We have members here who have total conscious recall, and others who are struggling with the bits and pieces.
The bottom line is that you and your brother aren't alone in this, you shouldn't feel isolated by it!
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 12:18pm » |
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 06:00am, hyundisonata wrote:| the date was 01/08/07 on the A70 outside edinburgh uk |
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Your description sounds like an abduction. The reason I asked you for the date is because abductions are few and far between these days. It's as if abductions ceased a while ago but we have two recent accounts of what sounds like abduction and both are in the UK.
Do you or your brother have unusual dreams lately? Is there anything else in your life that seems peculiar or different?
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 3:19pm » |
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Andrew Hennessy (from Edinburgh) says he has records and documentation of Dracos living in underground mines under that city, seven levels down. Full-size 12' tall, stinking lizard-men. Your experience sounds something like what they are known to have done. You were lucky to get away. Good for you. I wouldn't go near that quarry again. Dracos are carniverous.
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 06:00am, hyundisonata wrote:| the date was 01/08/07 on the A70 outside edinburgh uk we have never had anything like this hapen to us and have always put ufos down to goverments,i have seen blue balls of light and white balls being chased by the RAF and have seen above the A70 what i called a sosage link it was two orange tube shaped objects that looked joined loosely together very hight up well above the flight paths and very large,we have both dreamed of going through water but thats all ,no grey men or space ships ect |
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 5:27pm » |
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Since the Draco theory is just that, a theory with no hard proof, then it takes it's place amongst many such theories regarding the nature of ET's. Actually, based on reports from abductees, I'd say that carnivorous ET's fall pretty far down the list.
When someone is asking for our input in an effort to understand their experience, I think one should take great care not to introduce elements that may only exist within the confines of the more extreme world of conspiracy theorists.
I know that you are passionately convinced of this concept as you introduce it at every opportunity - that's fine, this is an open forum. It's no secret that I'm not invested in the Draco conspiracy. Again, opinions here differ. My trust is in my own first hand experiences and in the hundreds of abductee reports and investigations that I've studied over the years. People who have no agendas, no books or DVD's to sell. Everyday people (not claiming any secret government job, etc.) who step forward very reluctantly. There are tens of thousands of these quiet participants whose only desire is to understand what has happened to them. While some have undergone traumatic experiences, I have not read anything in their statements that gives validity to the theory that aliens are eating humans.
Such an extreme assertion would require an extreme amount of very hard proof to become a matter of "fact". In the absence of that, we have a responsibility to take great care not to pass off these stories as any more than a very small possibility amidst many, many others.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 6:24pm » |
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Well we defiantly do not have bite marks lol,but we are suffering problems ,my brother told me tonight he is having problems with his left and right and is getting things all mixed up ,he also has a bad headache that wont shift and seems very jumpy ,the only problem I am having is my teeth, I have an abscess at the wisdom tooth and two front teeth have gone grey to black from white and very painful but not toothache this happened in the last 12 hours this may not have anything to do with the missing two hours, I have found a needle mark on my right arm but nothing else ,I also keep wanting to return to the A70 its getting compulsive but maybe that’s me searching for what happened this I do not know but we both are finding it very scary and very annoying to the point of anger if you understand what I mean. I am 50 years old and my brother is in his late forties and at my age you don’t expect or look for such things but now I need to find an answer for the missing 2 hours some sort of proof as to what happened enough to put our minds at rest.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 6:29pm » |
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one other thing ,my brother has not slept since it happened and complains of being sore across his back and sholders,this may be due to lack of sleep but he seems to have had the rough end of the stick
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 7:00pm » |
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I don’t know if this has any connection but near my work there is an old airbase that I have nosed about in ,it is well spread along the A70 with deep bunkers in the woods ect and I took to gathering info about it as a hobby, I found one that seems to be still in use but did not go into that one ,it belongs to the USAF 6910th also known as shadow warriors and as far as I have found out was disbanded after the cold war, the airbase was known as RAF Kirk Newton but was solely American and very top secret the area around the A70 belongs mostly to the MOD and is still used on a regular basis I have also come across three abductions on the A70 one a forestry worker who seems to have died from illness by his abduction the other two went public and suffered ridicule but from what I have read is that theirs was very similar to ours and they where also driving before and after their experience
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 7:19pm » |
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 6:24pm, hyundisonata wrote:| I also keep wanting to return to the A70 its getting compulsive but maybe that’s me searching for what happened this I do not know but we both are finding it very scary and very annoying to the point of anger if you understand what I mean. |
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I know what you mean by compulsive and yes it could be because you're dwelling on it and not letting it go. Then again, you both need to go back and get it out of your systems. I'm in my mid 50's so I know what you mean and we can handle less (physically speaking) then we could as kids certainly. I'm always in pain for one reason or another. Then again, my situation is very different. I would go back though. I think it would do both of you a lot of good.
It almost sounds like a good ole MILAB abduction, doesn't it Mark - but the UK never did those, I don't think anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 9:54pm » |
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OH! I thought you were kids.
Okay. Well, what we know is that covert operations know how to mimic an abduction.
According to Wm Cooper and Alex Collier, they're also working underground with the Dracos and Greys.
Now, I don't know where there ought to be so much skepticism, given the fact that the site you have been very inquisitive about has a history of intell and/or covert ops.
It's not unthinkable that black ops will mimic Draco abductions.
Andrew Hennessy's account of Dracos under mine shafts beneath Edinburgh is much more benign. Nobody much goes down there past the 7th level of coalmineshafts, so nobody gets hurt. It's not a problem.
But anybody who noses around a black op US military base, given that they have remote cameras, motion sensors and satellite surveillance, can expect trouble.
Get thee to an emergency room, and see if the medical doctors can do anything for your brother. And if I were you, I'd put a lot of distance between myself and that military base until that land gets turned back over to the control and sovereignty of the British people.
Wow. What an ordeal. I had about six missing hours myself when a sort-of-new-friend laced my wine with some drug. Never did find out what or why. But I'm a distance viewer anyway, so maybe I just recovered more easily.
May I pray for you
She-Chai
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 6th, 2007, 12:22am » |
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YOUR REQUEST FOR HELP SOUNDS SINCERE AND NOBLE.THEREFORE LET'S TRY A FEW THINGS A JOURNAL OF YOUR DREAMS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA.NO MATTER HOW UNUSUAL IT MAY SEEM... WRITE IT DOWN.I WOULD GO A TAD FURTHER .WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING YOU AND YOUR BROTHER REMEMBER STARTING FROM WHEN YOU LEFT YOUR HOUSE TO THE QUARRY.DO THIS AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE YOU SHOULD BOTH GO TO SEPARATE AREAS TO FACILITATE A RECONSTRUCTION SO THAT ONE DOES NOT SUGGEST OR LEAD THE OTHER.THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR ANY INVESTIGATOR AND FOR YOU.THIS MAY BE DIFFICULT AT FIRST AND IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE MORE THAN ONCE.
WHAT TYPE OF QUARRY WERE YOU CHECKING OUT? SPECIFICALLY WHAT TYPE OF ROCK ,HOW DEEP WAS IT,HOW LARGE WAS THE QUARRY ITSELF AND DID YOU NOTICE ANY RECENT ACTIVITY,i.e. RECENT DIGGING OR CAVITATIONS.
I WOULD HAVE A COMPLETE BLOOD WORK UP FOR BOTH YOU AND YOUR BROTHER TO ALSO RULE OUT ANY PHYSICAL COMPLICATIONS AND DETERMINE AS TO WHETHER YOU OR YOUR BROTHER MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO ANY CHEMICAL TOXINS AT THE QUARRY.
YOU MENTIONED A PUNCTURE OR A NEEDLE MARK.WHERE WAS IT LOCATED?YOU MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING .THEREFORE YOU SHOULD SCAN YOUR BROTHER FOR ANY UNUSUAL MARKS (NECK,BEHIND EAR,ANKLES,ARM PITS BEHIND THE KNEE) OR ANY AREA THAT MAY BE SYMPTOMATIC OF A SHARPOR DULL PAIN AND VICE VERSA.
I HATE TO INCINUATE BUT IT IS SOME WHAT STANDARD AND MUST BE RULED OUT.WERE ANY PARTY SUBSTANCES USED THAT DAY.I'LL EXTEND THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT,BUT YOU WOULD KNOW.
THE ABOVE MENTIONED WOULD BENEFIT ANY INVESTIGATOR AND SAVE HE/SHE A VAST AMOUNT OF TIME TO ATTEMPT TO ASSESS WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION OF WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED
IF YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS PROVIDE WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED TO A REGRETION THERAPIST THAT IS NOT PREDJUDICED TO LOST TIME OR ABDUCTIONS
IT WAS SUGGESTED AND I CONCUR THAT IF YOU ARE PROBBING ANY FACILITY THAT CONSTITUTES COMPARTMENTALIZED TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED OPS...THEY KNOW YOU ARE THERE!!! AND HAVE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES TO DETER THOSE THAT GET TO CURIOUS.SO THEREFORE...RUN FOREST RUN
I HOPE THIS FINDS YOU WELL AND MY COSMIC THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR BROTHER.
SHALOM...ZETAR.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 6th, 2007, 10:38am » |
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I have mined Edinburgh and fife for the NCB as a face worker and have never come across anything or one that should not be there ,the area is supposed to be unused except for the firing range in the pentland hills I only came across one section in use and avoided it the rest seems open to the public as walkways ect or the forestry department ,my interest was in the past history and secrecy surrounding it as in all staff at the time of use had to tell family ect that they where cooks or mechanics or similar employment and could not mention what they really did. I don’t drink or take drugs only lots of tea, the only similar problem we both have is my right arm is sore as in muscular sore it feels as if it has been wrenched out of the socket my brother has the same but its his left arm, I was at the dentist this morning and he had no explanation of why I now have two dead teeth at the front of my mouth ,asked if I had banged them when I said no he told me it must be the infection from the wisdom tooth I asked why it wasn’t doing the same to teeth closer to the wisdom tooth he had no answer. We are following the advice given and will keep a record of all that has happened and with dreams ect then compare notes in a few months time. I do have a mistrust of governments and the military this came about in 1995 when I had business dealings in Washington dc with NASA and disregarded there request not to deal with a Baron Von Dressenhoff of Richmond Virgina after our meetings we returned to Scotland and within five days I was seriously ill suffered a major stroke, loss of memory and have had four heart attacks five strokes suffer from parkinsonism since and was near full recovery until this happened ,the only medication I take is aspirin and carry my spray the rest I have always refused and as stated was near full recovery and was working as a builder for my own self-esteem and physical well being
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