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« Thread started on: May 26th, 2014, 06:23am »

This is an important question as the skeptic constantly uses this line of evidence in feebly attempting to demonstrate the abductee is suffering mental health issues, I personally feel it to be detrimental to the abductees health as aliens, UFO and abduction are not accepted as reality by this doctrine and the few that have acknowledged this as a possible reality have suffered for stating this fact. Now even if the psychiatrist believed your story they would have to find an answer that will keep their peers content in other words fear of loosing their job, credibility etc would govern their answer to the abductees problems and not the well being of the abductees, in fact you could claim the psychiatrist is suffering one of many mental health issues associated with the emotion fear? When it comes to abduction not even the psychiatrist can say if it is real or not they can only assume. Now psychiatry hasnít a good history that has treated patents as lab rats being trained, bullied into accepting their way of how things should be by using force such as drugs, electrosis, lobotomy, depravation etc yet youíre expected to believe them of high moral standing. So letís start the ball rolling, this link is an excellent paper on the subject so a good starting point. http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc7.htm


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« Reply #1 on: May 26th, 2014, 06:36am »

...to be departmental to the abductees health...

And also detrimental to their health.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26th, 2014, 07:20am »

Lol Hal not good start laziness on my part.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26th, 2014, 07:20am »

I have had experience with a psychaitrist. Perhaps I am wrong but I found him to be of no help at all. All he wanted to do was prescribe me pills. He couldn't comprehend it. I guess he was following the book.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26th, 2014, 07:36am »

They have guidelines that they have to adhere to and that eliminates free thought, to over step the margin they have to submit papers to their peers and hope for acceptance. This and the influence of the pharmaceutical companies encourages over prescription of drugs so even if they wanted to say yes I believe you your incident seems genuine they cannot do so as their hands are well tied so they adopt the protocol set by their peers not for your good but their own and treat you for mental illness that is not founded , if they have this brick wall up against the belief of possibility that abduction by alien is true then how can they be impartial so their judgment has to be made on their beliefs and not medical evidence as there is none.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26th, 2014, 07:56am »

http://www.sntp.net/lobotomy/lobotomy.htm
http://www.chrusp.org/home/psychiatric_torture
http://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-history-cures-coercion-torture.htm

when you look at the way this doctrine established itself and its practices you start to see that the nice young man in the clean white coat is but an illusion hiding a mentally deranged psychopathic manic that your supposed to trust and believe, in fact the only insanity an abductee could show would be in contemplating going anywhere near these people.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26th, 2014, 08:39am »

http://www.sntp.net/main.htm
every thing in life has a foundation of reality, sometimes we can get confused or misinterpret but it did happen it was real and it is in deciding what that reality was that has to be questioned. My own case on the A70, I do not know if I was abducted, I did not have visions of aliens or UFO at the time but what I did have was missing time and the fact that I was still driving at sixty MPH in the same area, I had a passenger who was now ill and when I final got home I slept for over sixteen hours so I had indications something was not right and that led me to investigate and that is a typical abduction scenario. Now where does the claims of mental illness show in such an incident, thatís right there is no indication of mental illness, such claims are branded like a club to beat you into agreeing with those that have not been in such a predicament because they fear such could be a reality hence why they latch onto the rules set by psychiatry rules set by people as we see from the links are clearly insane sadists who have no respect for human life.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26th, 2014, 09:19am »

I don't think it can be a simple yes or no answer. It really is something that has to be evaluated on a case to case basis. In some cases it could be helpful for the abductee to get their experience off their chest, it could also help those that have a mental illness and only imagine an abduction.
What it boils down to is the psychiatrist. Do they have an open mind where alien abduction is concerned? Some do most do not.

To be honest most doctors treat mental/emotional symptoms with medications especially those symptoms that are outside the box. In defense of doctors most can't fathom an alien race visiting and abducting humans. But you cannot paint all doctors with the same brush. My sister first doctor wanted to put her in a mental hospital and eventually put her on a lot of medications. However she did find a doctor who viewed her experience differently. I don't know if he believed her experiences were real but he did view them being real to her. He took her off the medications and got her to open up about the experience.

While my sister wasn't exposed to the horrific treatment that many abductee claims she did feel violated since she was taken against her will. Her doctor helped her reclaim he life and not live in fear. It is his belief that the paralyzed fear that abductees feel just before being abducted is not from the aliens but from the abductee own fear. It's his belief that they(aliens) cannot abduct someone who shows no fear. His work with her was and is centered into not giving into fear IE resisting it. Since her treatment has began she has felt their presence but has not been abducted.

I can't say beyond a doubt that her abduction experience really happened but I do know she believes it did and I take her word for it. So in her case I think psychiatry worked. If nothing else it gave her back control of her life and not to live in fear.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26th, 2014, 2:04pm »

on May 26th, 2014, 06:23am, hyundisonata wrote:
This is an important question as the skeptic constantly uses this line of evidence in feebly attempting to demonstrate the abductee is suffering mental health issues, I personally feel it to be detrimental to the abductees health as aliens, UFO and abduction are not accepted as reality by this doctrine and the few that have acknowledged this as a possible reality have suffered for stating this fact. Now even if the psychiatrist believed your story they would have to find an answer that will keep their peers content in other words fear of loosing their job, credibility etc would govern their answer to the abductees problems and not the well being of the abductees, in fact you could claim the psychiatrist is suffering one of many mental health issues associated with the emotion fear? When it comes to abduction not even the psychiatrist can say if it is real or not they can only assume. Now psychiatry hasnít a good history that has treated patents as lab rats being trained, bullied into accepting their way of how things should be by using force such as drugs, electrosis, lobotomy, depravation etc yet youíre expected to believe them of high moral standing. So letís start the ball rolling, this link is an excellent paper on the subject so a good starting point. http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc7.htm




Very interesting though long read, Hyundisonata!

Let's say our starting point is residing in a modern, civilized country with adequate, affordable healthcare. (Just so you don't have to expect to get lobotomized when reporting your abduction!)

Then I'd approach your question by considering abduction experiencers as 'no different' from other residents of such country. Best choices are made as a medical consumer (shop around, ask questions about a professional therapist's experience/credentials). If abductees feel they have psychological issues they may decide to get help, just like any non-abductee would. Psychologist. Psychiatrist if you're really losing it or sumtin.

If not, leave that field aside. There's no such thing as an abduction disorder in itself imo. If it is just a big story that changed your life, join UFO Casebook! There's a well of sympathetic support here, plus some people who'll tell you you're nuts FOR FREE!

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« Reply #9 on: May 26th, 2014, 2:13pm »

,,, plus some people who'll tell you you're nuts FOR FREE!...

But should you believe him/her/them ?

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YA GOT A "MUCHO CALIENTE" TOPIC HERE ~ cool

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on May 26th, 2014, 2:13pm, INT21 wrote:
,,, plus some people who'll tell you you're nuts FOR FREE!...

But should you believe him/her/them ?

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Hi Dan glad to hear your sister is doing well and that she has a caring loving family for support, people laugh at this problem not realizing the trauma an abductees endures and it can be devastating I have said several times I have watched grown men break down and cry like babies over this to the point they just want to find a corner to hide in so it is not something to laugh about. If your sister lived in a society where one could talk openly about alien abduction then she would never need treatment or drugs, the treatment or drugs are there to alleviate the impact she fears from society , the ridicule the claims of insanity the frustration of not being believed. Dan if you know your sister to be genuine and honest then you should have no doubts that an incident happened and have no reason to question that part although it is reasonable to question the contents of the incident without ridicule and absurd claims of mental health issues. if you just ask your selfís the question of why you hide who you all are on this site and that includes the skeptical and you will find the answer is fear, you are afraid your friends find that you talk about aliens, your afraid your neighbors will find out, your employer or even being afraid of the government and future implications that could arise. There is no proof that aliens do not exist just as there is no proof they do exist but science is now telling us the possibility of alien life is increasing all the time so the possibility the abductee was telling the truth is also increasing yet they are still labeled under mental health. Do you see those psychiatrists who butchered thousands of brains with methods that had no health values to the victim coming forward and admitting guilt, no what they do is wash it under the table knowing you will accept any form of abuse from them hence why it is so easy for those who wish to attack the abductee to copy with claims of mental health issues and it is this sort of thing that has corroded the foundations of society
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on May 26th, 2014, 5:30pm, hyundisonata wrote:
Hi Dan glad to hear your sister is doing well and that she has a caring loving family for support, people laugh at this problem not realizing the trauma an abductees endures and it can be devastating I have said several times I have watched grown men break down and cry like babies over this to the point they just want to find a corner to hide in so it is not something to laugh about. If your sister lived in a society where one could talk openly about alien abduction then she would never need treatment or drugs, the treatment or drugs are there to alleviate the impact she fears from society , the ridicule the claims of insanity the frustration of not being believed. Dan if you know your sister to be genuine and honest then you should have no doubts that an incident happened and have no reason to question that part although it is reasonable to question the contents of the incident without ridicule and absurd claims of mental health issues. if you just ask your selfís the question of why you hide who you all are on this site and that includes the skeptical and you will find the answer is fear, you are afraid your friends find that you talk about aliens, your afraid your neighbors will find out, your employer or even being afraid of the government and future implications that could arise. There is no proof that aliens do not exist just as there is no proof they do exist but science is now telling us the possibility of alien life is increasing all the time so the possibility the abductee was telling the truth is also increasing yet they are still labeled under mental health. Do you see those psychiatrists who butchered thousands of brains with methods that had no health values to the victim coming forward and admitting guilt, no what they do is wash it under the table knowing you will accept any form of abuse from them hence why it is so easy for those who wish to attack the abductee to copy with claims of mental health issues and it is this sort of thing that has corroded the foundations of society


Hi Hyundai, I believe my sisters story but never having had an experience I can't relate to it. I do find it interesting though and it is what led me to have an interest in the topic. As a family we embrace her and don't consider her an outcast. I should also tell you I openly discuss UFO and other paranormal with friends and family. It's not a scarlet letter for me.

That being said I do think in some cases abduction could be a byproduct of mental illness. I think a study of an abductee mental state as well as blood chemical profile should be done. My mother suffered from a chemical imbalance so I know they can cause issues. I do think where abduction is concerned that it helps to know the abductee state of mind. I also realize the abduction causes it's own mental anguish so you have to allow for that.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26th, 2014, 5:57pm »

What we have to keep in mind is that psychology governs our lifeís itís used on every street corner from buying a car tyre to a bar of chocolate or how you sleep, in other words your being manipulated mostly without knowing you are being manipulated so the possibility that those labeling the abductee are being manipulated into doing such is a possibility, you are being controlled by fear. Why is there so much denial over ET, by governments, medical, science even though the evidence is mounting, the biggest question is will you ask why such was denied at great lengths or will you stay controlled if ever disclosure is made, no doubt you will not question as control factors are well embedded even though you wont admit to it you know it, now thatís psychology at work.
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