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Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Sep 28th, 2002, 11:42am

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Aliens come in all shapes and sizes. The most common ones are the so-called grays. There are also the Nordics, the Reptilians, etc.. If we actually make official contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence, what do yo think they would look like?



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Sep 28th, 2002, 8:17pm

Well I don't know, but I always imagine it would be like the tall, spindly alien creature in Close Encounters. The one who comes out of the mothership toward the end.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by alieneve on Sep 28th, 2002, 8:22pm

I think the greys are the ones that are taking people in abductions and stuff. That's what I imagine. If they made contact, I think that the greys would have a leader that would be a lot taller than the little ones.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by The Traveler on Sep 29th, 2002, 11:23am

The things I have seen indicate to me that if an alien race contacted us, they would be superior to us in intellect and technology. They are depicted as being thin because they don't do much physical work, and they
have long fingers because of pushing buttons on computers. Why they are so pale or whitish looking, I guess is they must live in a world that doesn't have the sun like we do. But this would be just one kind of alien, and abduction stories mention several kinds.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Sep 29th, 2002, 1:08pm

you have a good point there mr traveller
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Sep 29th, 2002, 1:16pm

Having thought about it i reckon all the different shapes and sizes of aliens that seem to be reported are from different planet or are different species. They may even look nothing like what we see but change into something we can associate with so they may be different depending on where we come from. There was a film which i cant remember what it was but they changed into a human form i reckon although the film was a comedy it wasn't far from the truth. cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Sep 29th, 2002, 4:47pm

One more thing about certain aliens that have been briefly, Some of them may have been some kind of robots, like in The Day the Earth Stood Still.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by goblin79 on Oct 1st, 2002, 7:18pm

Hello, I have been involved in UFO research for
over 20 years now and I have focused my efforts
on the humanoid or entity reports. I have catalogued
over 4000 such cases in my files some well known
some translated from different languages and some
investigated by me personally. I can say this much,
the grays seemed to have been a relatively new
phenomenom and many of the older cases are found
through hypnotic regression. The great humanoid
wave of 1954 in Europe does not include one case
describing an entity known as a gray, and there were
dozens of cases. The magonia database created by
Vallee might have one or two but you have to really
look hard at the description. Like it was estated before
they do come in all sizes and shapes, giants, tiny entities, light beings, tall blonds, short goblin like
creatures, hairy humanoids (yes connected with ufos)
etc. Please anybody can feel free to contact me to
exchange information.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Oct 5th, 2002, 10:25am

Great, nice to have that type of experience to draw from. I enjoy the posts, and look forward to more of them.Thanks
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MoonPower on Oct 5th, 2002, 8:29pm

In my own opinion I believe extraterrestrial life is like human life. They have been part of our evolutionry process since the dawn of time, and now they are one of our Spirit Guides.UFO sightings and ET experiences have been part of Earth's history and will always remain as such.

In many cases these are physical experiences (both positive and negative). In other cases these are telepathic experiences.

In all cases they are as real to those involved in them as your 3D experiences are for you.

One learns to never question the reality of another soul's experience as the veils between our realities is very fine at this time - and anything goes!

Reality for you today - is how you perceive it.

It could all change at a moments notice! We all see aliens in a different mindset according to that person.

We have the Lemurians, Nibiruans, Greys, Nordics, and much more, it is infinite..

Re: Moonpower
Post by rocketman on Oct 5th, 2002, 9:47pm

Thanks for that posting. After reading that, I was wondering, is that why there have been some sighting reports where only one person could see the ufo, and no one else. in other words, the sighting was meant for that one person?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by The Traveler on Oct 6th, 2002, 11:43am

you know when you think about just our planet and see all the different groups of people. We have white, black, etc, and all sizes and shapes. Can you imagine if you could take a sampling of people from different planets, well, there would be a bunch of them. Maybe this is why we are seeing reports of so many different ets.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by goblin79 on Oct 6th, 2002, 12:29pm

Very good point!, and if they are an infinite
number of inhabited planets in our universe, which
that is what I believe, by the grace of God, then
the number of different type of aliens or visitors
could be staggering.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Oct 8th, 2002, 4:46pm

Too true Goblin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Oct 19th, 2002, 6:43pm

My opinion on this is that they will look very similar to us. However, goblin79 has just about said it. With all the planets out there, there must be a massive variety. If you want to know the reason I think they`ll look like us, go to alien legacy.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by The Traveler on Oct 19th, 2002, 8:50pm

Yes, I agree with the many varieties, but I do think with what we know about sightings and abductions, that at this time there are only a few that are visiting us.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by lasernosemouse on Oct 19th, 2002, 9:15pm

Not what we look like driving thru the universe on our hydrocarbon wheels of antiquity! Lets see...Lizards, Greys,. tall nordic, oriental, dark skin, at least what I gather from reports the upright biped seems to be the norm and muticolor the game...
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Oct 20th, 2002, 01:34am

Yes, there have been a bunch of strange looking aliens out there. Some of them are pretty frightening to me. I know this sounds stupid, but they aren't going to get me without a hell of a fight.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 26th, 2002, 12:22am

Hi Goblin,
So you think the greys have just recenty come onto our planet? I think that is very interesting. I would so very much like to hear more on your views concerning this.

As you know I have been posting a lot on the Anunnuki and the giant races.
Do you have any information on the 'little people'. It seems there is so little out there on this.
According to the Southwestern Indians, I was told that 'When the giants appeared on the earth, the little people went inside the earth.' Do you have anything to contribute to this story. Or anything on these 'little people'. I would assume they are alien by nature..as I also assume we may be too.

Thank you.
Have a great day
Mary S.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Oct 26th, 2002, 06:45am

Hi there burlington im interested in the people you refere to alot as the Annunnuki or whatever they are called what is the story behind them i'm intregued


smiley

Merlin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Oct 26th, 2002, 09:28am

Yeh, me too?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 27th, 2002, 01:49am

Hi guys. In answer to your question...got a few years? laughs.
Geez , I guess first you need to read my posts I do in the section Iam moderating. I have a lot in there on the Anunnuki. But in a nutshell, I believe them to be genesis's 'Sons of Gods' that created the nephilms, which were the Giants or 'Sons of the Sons' of God' .
I believe that they were the ones that did 'gene tampering' to create a slave race of man for their gold mining.
They were here on Earth at least several times. Because in the Sumerian text, they are refered to as 'the gods re-descended'.
I think there was a War in the Heavens and a take over of command and Anak and sons came here and re-established a home here on Earth. Then the War in the Heavens (skies) was brought down here on Earth. In comes the Ancient Nuclear War that took place in the Mid-East.

I was hoping maybe Goblin could help me with their description. I think maybe they were reptilian type shapeshifters. Possibly 2 different races of them..one having sympathy for the humans and another having no mercy on humans, seeing them only as a level above animals and only purpose being of slaves to them.

I actually think that the whole old testament really describes the war between these two races of Anunnuki and the human connection with that war.

It's very confusing though because we don't have much to base anything on, except the Israelite version and now new lost texts re-surfacing. As they surface we learn more of the history of more people in other worlds and their connections to various races of aliens.

It seems like maybe at one time, Earth was a melting pot of aliens coming and going , inter-breeding and gene manipulating humans.

Right now Iam trying to connect what race of humans may belong to what alien race. But for some odd reason, everything I research always references back to a verson of Anunnuki. Maybe the Anunnuki was an exploratory race that settled many planets. The people on these various planets evolved in their own way based on the environment. The more evolved were given the knowledge of their creators and they went on to explore more worlds as well. (Like what we on Earth are doing now)

Like I said, it is so complicated...and presumptious. All theories and not much to base it on. But even the 3 d stone slab map they found, dated 21 millions years old, shows the tell-tale signs of the Anunnaki. If that is true than the Anunnaki could have been one of the original aliens that settled Earth. And if that is the case, to make a long story short....they would be our ancestral lineage.

Still waiting for Goblin to let me in on how the greys and little people fit in ....laughs.

Well I hope I didn't leave you too confused.

Have a great day.
Mary




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by stargazer on Oct 27th, 2002, 08:54am

I read somewhere that the very first mention of the grays was the Betty and Barney Hill abduction in the early 1960s. I will never forget the first sketches that were released, it was probably 3-4 years after the actual event. They were very frightening at the time. I saw the movie too. It was called The Interrupted Journey.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 28th, 2002, 05:59am

Anunnaki Race of ET
Anakim/Annunaki


Anakim - The descendents of Anak or sons of hte Anakim.
Genesis 6:4
They were counted among the Rephaim.
Deuteronomy 2:11
Chiefs of Anakim
Numbers 13:22, Joshua 15:13,14
Anakim remnants
Joshua 11;21,22

One cannot help but notice the simularity between the words Anakim
and Annunaki.

Anak was I believe the leader of the Anunnaki before the war in the heavens. He lost out to another and was cast out, making his home here on Earth. Landing in the Mid East Area. The above biblical references does indicate this may be true.

Mary S.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Oct 28th, 2002, 08:52am

Thanks for the explanation burlington it all makes sense now grin


Regards Merlin


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 28th, 2002, 10:53am

Well Iam happy that it makes sense to you....Iam still trying to figure it out. All I know is there has to be a connection there.
It just seems strange that archeologists put so much time , energy and money into the Ape Theory but they aren't using various clues in the Bible and other Re-surfaced Ancient Texts to trace the giant lineage down.

If there were giants such as the anunnaki present it wouldn't make much sense that we evolved from the Apes instead of them.

Because remember the slab stone 3dimensional map they found dating back 21 million years ago. The section of it they found weighed one ton alone. Now I don't think the Apes were using them....laughs

Mary
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by goblin79 on Oct 28th, 2002, 12:22pm

Burlington, have you read the book "The wars of God and men" by Zitchin?

fascinating


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by stargazer on Oct 28th, 2002, 9:48pm

I believe the first mention of the grays, at least in modern literature was the Betty and Barney abduction. There have been for many years accounts of the "little people", everyone should read "Passport to Magonia" by Vallle, it has centuries of accounts of the little people.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 29th, 2002, 12:26am

Repost from ancientmysteriesms

Well speaking of not seeing the forest for the trees, I realized that
happened to me when it came to the red-haired people they have been
unearthing lately.
We have been speaking of the Anunnaki, the Zeta's, the nephilims, the
martians. We also talked about the Anunnaki's splitting and warring
between themselves as two brothers tried to take control.
But then in Genesis, it describes the 'Creator God making Adam in his
image.'... But if the Anunnaki and Zeta's were of reptilian design
with shapeshifting powers and the nephilims were giants...then where
did the smaller man come from. ie Goliath vs David.
I have been thinking on that tonight using the common denominator of
the red-haired people. We know the Israelites were black-haired as
well as the Ethiopians. But now they have discovered there was also
a red-haired race of European features in that area as well.
Possibly travelers..
So Iam thinking also of the alien race we haven't mentioned
yet. ...which would be the Nordics. From everyone's description , so
far, of them, they are human type with blonde/white hair and blue
eyes. Now if you base anything on pre-races, maybe there was another
race of man born from the Nordic Alien Culture.. So we would maybe
have to go not into the Mid-East but the Americas and Europe.. This
is where they have been finding a lot of skeletorial remains with red
hair. If the accounts are accurate, the Vikings actually discovered
the America's before Columbus. And the Vikings were of light hair
and also many were Red-heads, as well as the Scots and Irish. Could
this possibly indicate that there was another race that came into
being that was non-anunnaki. The nickname of the Vikings and people
of that Area were none other than 'Nordic's. ....Where did they get
that name... Possibly from the Nordic alien culturehuh??

Taking this into account, when we hear stories of the little people,
where actually are they coming from....The same culture as the
Nordics, Ireland and the Americas.

Everything we know of the Nordics indicates also that they were peace
loving and very spiritual, dwelving into the spiritual realms....and
interdimensional travel... Now from what I understand, Nordics have
this capability of interdimensional travel...Reptilian type races do
not.

So I at this time, would like to point out the possibility of 2 Main
seperate cultures existing on earth.
I also suggest that the cross-breds of the Anunnuki may have been
bred to be more war-like, quick to anger but easier to control by
their military superiors. This could be why the never ending battles
in the Mid-East.
I again suggest that the cross-breds of the Nordic, may have been
where the Celtic traditions come in , although warriors they still
had a more spiritual nature...perfering peace over war.

This could have then resulted in the final seperation of Spirituality
and Material Religions. Thus again creating another type of Holy War
that has lasted up until this day.

The Dark Ages could have been a direct hit against the Nature
Religions, wanting to wipe them out forever...as to destroy the
Nordic traditions from the memories of man..forever.


Just a theory...nothing else. But would love to hear everyone's
comments about it.

Thank you
Mary

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 29th, 2002, 12:28am

--- In ancientmysteriesms@y..., "Burlington News"
<> Do you think that the fairies were a small alien race

The Norse legends spoke of the gods being doomed to extinction at
the hands of the crude barbarous Ice Giants. This might indicate a
large primitive race was taking over the territory of a small more
advanced race.
Later in history in many of these same areas the legends of the
fairies arose. It might be possible that the descendents of the
winners of the territories, the Ice Giants, retained and passed on
the memory of the advanced magical little people they had conquered
in the form of stories of fairies. The beaten remnants of the little
people may have lived in the forests and harrased the giants for
quite a long time.
It is a guess. - Seneden

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 29th, 2002, 12:30am

Wow, it seems like we were really connecting before we even posted.
This theory works right along with mine than doesn't it.
The Ice Giants may have been the Anunnaki coming in from Europe, via
the MidEast.
Just like Napoleon, one country at a time. As they conquered a land,
all evidence of pre-existing culture was wiped out and the men were
either killed or castrated and the woman raped, seeding the conquered
people with their own. Just like in the stories of Scotland, Ireland
and even Native Americans. All native language was forbidden as well
as any mention to their previous heritages and legends. After several
generations, the memories of their ancestors was lost and the seeds
of their loins were grown producing more of their kind. How many
generations does it take to wipe out a race...Five or Six?

Mary S.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Oct 29th, 2002, 12:34am

Hi Goblin,
Yes, I have read a lot of his material. The only problem with Sitchen's work though is he doesn't go back far enough.
That 3-D stone stab map dates 21 millions old. This is where we have to take it from.
I think he mainly focuses on this last race of mankind.
and the coming race.

But when it comes to anunnaki, his work is invaluable. Especially his knowlege of the Sumerian Texts.

Mary S.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MoonPower on Oct 31st, 2002, 04:47am

Also, Nibiru is the home of the Anunnaki - the Nephilim - the Elohim - the Gods - the Giants of the Bible - Those Who From Heaven To Earth Came. They are supposedly a Reptilian Race.

The Dogon Tribe of Mali, Africa have a legend about a race of Amphibious Gods who came to Earth from Sirius approximately five thousand years ago.



The Nibiruans supposedly landed on Earth, colonized it, mining the Earth for gold and other minerals, establishing a spaceport in what today is the Iraq-Iran area - Sumer - and lived in a kind of idealistic society as a small colony. They supposedly created a human slave-race to work their mines, farms, and other enterprises.

They supposedly created Man, Homo Sapiens, through genetic manipulation with themselves and ape man Homo Erectus.

The Great Flood supposedly was an attempt to destroy the slave races of humanity by the Nibiruans because they had rebelled against their Nibiruian / Sumerian Gods - Enlil and Enki.

Enlil and Enki were involved in a heated dispute over whether to destroy or preserve the slave races and this power struggle resulted in war.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Louise on Oct 31st, 2002, 05:21am

When I was very young, (about 12) I got a book that had all kinds of information in it about the Dogon Tribe, I was so fansinated over them...

In 1995, two French Astronomers published the results,
after years of study, and stated that a small, red-dwarf star
seems to exist in the Sirius star system...*

The Dogon people live in the Homburi Mountains near Timbuktu. At the center of their religious teachings is knowledge about a star that is invisible to the eye and so difficult to obsevrve -- even through a telescope -- that no photographs were taken of it until 1970. The Dogon say they received their knowledge by visitors to the earth from another star system.

The star they describe is Sirius B. Its existence was first suspected by Western astronomers in 1844, when irregularites were noticed in the movement of Sirius. It was supposed that Sirius must be affected by a second star, and in 1862 a faint companion star was finally detected. Sirius B is a white dwarf that, although small and faint, is extremely dense and heavy enough to exert an influence on Sirius A.

The Dogon name for Sirius B (Po Tolo) consists of the word for star (tolo) and "po," the name of the smallest seed known to them. By this name they describe the star's smallness -- it is, they say, "the smallest thing there is." They also claim that it is "the heaviest star," and white. The Dogon thus attribute to Sirius B its three principle properties as a white dwarf: small, heavy, white.

They go on to say that it has an is elliptical orbit, with Sirius A at one foci of the ellipse (as it is), that the orbital period is 50 years (the actual figure is 50.04 +/- 0.09 years), and that the star rotates on its own axis (it does). The Dogon also describe a third star in the Sirius system, called "Emme Ya" ("Sorghum Female"). In orbit around this star, they say, is a single satellite. To date, Emme Ya has not been identified by astronomers.

In addition to their knowledge of Sirius B, the Dogon mythology includes Saturn's rings, and Jupiter's four major moons. They have four calendars, for the Sun, Moon, Sirius, and Venus, and have long known that planets orbit the sun.

The Dogon say their astronomical knowledge was given to them by the Nommos, amphibious beings sent to earth from Sirius for the benefit of mankind. The name comes from a Dogon word meaning "to make one drink," and the Nommos are also called Masters of the Water, the Monitors, and the Teachers.

The Nommos were more fishlike than human, and had to live in water. They were saviors and spiritual guardians: "The Nommo divided his body among men to feed them; that is why it is also said that as the universe "had drunk of his body," the Nommo also made men drink. He gave all his life principles to human beings."

The Nommo was crucified and resurrected and in the future will again visit the earth, this time in human form. Later he will assume his amphibious form and will rule the world from the waters.

Dogon mythology is known only by a number of their priests, and is a complex system of knowledge. Such carefully guarded secrets would not be divulged to friendly strangers very easily. If the star Emme Ya is eventually discovered in the Sirius system, this would give considerably weight to the Dogon's story.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Louise on Oct 31st, 2002, 05:28am

According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe.

He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. [This is a metaphor for our original 12-strand DNA. Our present physical DNA contains 2 strands which hold the genetic codes for our physical evolvement.]

One twin rebelled against the order established by Amma, [This is a metaphor for one source/soul splitting into two polarities - yin /yang, when it enters into the electro-magnectic energies of third dimension] thereby destabilizing the universe. In order to purify the cosmos and restore its order, Amma sacrificed another of the Nommo, whose body was cut up and scattered throughout the universe. This distribution of the parts of the Nommo's body is seen as the source for the proliferation of Binu shrines throughout the Dogon region.

The Dogon say that their astronomical knowledge was given to them by the Nommo. The Dogon elder, Ogotemelli, describes them variously as having the upper part as a man and the lower portion as snake; or as having a ram's head with serpent body.

Author Robert temple describes the Nommo as amphibious beings sent to Earth from the Sirius star system for the benefit of humankind. They look like Merfolk; Mermaids and Mermen. [Metaphor: amphibius - referring to the flow of the collective unconscious - creational source].

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After the landing in a space ship, something with four legs appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel floated in it. The Dogon, call this spaceship 'Pelu Tolo' or 'Star of the Tenth Moon'.

These aliens supposedly came from the Sirian star system. Their spaceship spiraled down from the sky. It landed somewhere to the northeast of the Dogon's present homeland. There was a great noise and wind. The ship landed on three legs, skidded to a stop, scoring the ground. Four legs appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel floated.

At the same time a new star was seen in the sky, which possibly was a large space ship. The star was described by the Dogon as having a circle of reddish rays around it. This circle of rays was like a spreading spot yet it still remaining the same size.

There is a Dogon drawing of the spaceship hovering in the sky, waiting for the Nommo who landed on the Earth. It represents three stages of 'Pelu Tolo' when it is spurting different amounts of blood or flames [as if it crash landed].

They called the Nommo 'Masters of the Water', 'The Monitors', 'The Teachers or Instructors', 'Saviors', and 'Spiritual Guardians'.

AThe Dogons believe their gods are already here.

I have to wonder if the word 'Nommo' means 'No More' - 'No Longer'.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by The Traveler on Nov 9th, 2002, 03:49am

Well, I don't know about the "nommo" thing, but I hope that doesn't apply to your lively discussion. Captivating

Thanks a lot
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Nov 12th, 2002, 9:42pm

Yes it is interesting that in most all reported cases the beings, even suspected robots, have two legs two arms and one head. I wonder if this is a relatively local universe trait or part of the grand design?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Louise on Nov 13th, 2002, 01:44am

Walking Among Us?
http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Part_III/walkingamong9.html
by Saskia von Essen, ©1997, Edited by K. Wilson


Saskia von Essen is 40 years old. She has been married for eighteen years and has two sons, ages sixteen and twelve, who are also involved in the phenomenon. After Saskia completed high school, she worked for a lawyer and obtained a lawyer's assistant qualification. After an examination she was qualified to work in a court of justice in Hamburg, Germany.

With Saskia's permission, I have published the following portions of her first letter to me.

"In June of 1991, I had my first experience with what I believe to be a Blonde being. It was not during the night and not while I was sleeping, but rather, during the daytime. I was in a grocery store looking for some food to purchase for my family and I suddenly realized that a Blonde 'man' had his gaze fixed upon me. He did not just look at me. His eyes were fixed on me as if he were looking 'into' me. It felt as if he knew my deepest thoughts and knew all of my emotions and everything I had experienced during my entire life.

First, I felt fear - a terrible fear. At that time I did not know anything about alien beings or that people were having contact with them or other unknown creatures. Also, at that time this Blonde looked like a human being. However, certain things about his appearance were abnormal. He did not move like a normal human being. The best way I can describe his movements is to say he moved in a robotic fashion. His eyes looked and looked at me. I wanted to run away, but I could not move.

He continued to stare at me and after some minutes my fear changed to a different emotion. It is not easy to explain, but this new emotion I experienced was peaceful and loving. I was astonished and I asked myself, 'Who is this man?'

To my surprise, I received an answer inside my head - in the middle of my brain:

'Someone who knows you.'

I thought to myself, 'Could it be that he is a murderer who will kill me later?'

'No - Never!'

I thought again to myself, 'Where does he know me from?'

Again, there was another answer in my mind,

'I know you, but not as you believe.'

I could not believe that I was receiving these answers 'inside my head.' In my curiosity about this I asked myself, 'Is this something like hypnosis?'

'Possible!'

I asked again, 'Is this telepathic communication?'

'Possible!'



Suddenly, a young woman spoke to me. I looked at her and then back to the Blonde man, but I could not see him. He was gone. When I got home, I wrote in my diary that I had come in contact with a ghost or an angel. However, a short time after this experience I became more and more certain that my encounter with this Blonde 'man' was an event that would change my life.

It was as if this Blonde used me like a computer, as if he had somehow given me information that I would need in the years to come. My brain felt as full as a balloon with information that I could not access. Even though I could not remember the information at that moment, I knew I would remember it when I was supposed to.

During the following months, my life changed. Some of my dreams had more of a feeling of reality to them than being mere dreams. I also began to remember several mysterious experiences I had during my childhood. For example: little 'people' who sat on my bed, a two-legged dog who looked at me with dark eyes, and many nights during which I awakened crying. I also remember that when I was five years old I would get sick when I was supposed to sleep over at my grandmother's house. I remember telling my parents that there were 'wolf-faces' in the windows of my grandmother's house.

I continue to have 'dreams' about several strange creatures and situations that look like the creatures and situations you describe in your book, The Alien Jigsaw. I have dreams during which I can fly and where 'doctors' are operating on me and sometimes other people as well. Once, I even met three, small friendly creatures who had blue skin. Other times I have awakened during the night because of odd vibrations or because my entire body was wet and I was cold. I have so many experiences I could share, but they are too numerous to write about in a letter...."

Saskia ended her letter shortly after this sentence. However, in another letter Saskia shared her feelings about an article that was published in Merging Realities. In the following excerpt Saskia is referring to the article titled Hybrid Children, which was excerpted from Voices From The Pacific Northwest.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Louise on Nov 13th, 2002, 01:45am

Part 2 shocked

"When I read the experiences that Doreen Imper and Kendra McNeal wrote about, I became very upset because their accounts are very similar to some of my dreams and experiences. I have also seen a little blue-eyed child. When I was holding him I could feel that he was very frail and thin, but this little boy was so delightful when he looked up at me with his very big blue eyes. No one told me that he was my son, but at that moment I loved him.

Something else I read bothered me as well. Kendra said that the hybrid child told her something about their World and our World merging with one another. For a long time, I had dreams about seeing dead people, and sometimes these dead people would transform into the little Greys and this always shocked me. I have tried to understand what this means and whenever I concentrate on this dream I get the same answer. In German it is 'Vereinigung der Reiche' which translates as 'a connection or union between the dimensions.' When I received this message I did not understand it, but now I believe it is possible that it may mean a merging of different dimensions."

If you will recall, in Hybrid Children, the hybrid being told Kendra, "Our fifth-dimensional World is going to merge and co-exist with your fourth-dimensional World... The hybrid children are all part of the merging process."

These are incredible words indeed. What is even more incredible is that another abductee, living thousands of miles away and who speaks a different language and lives in a different culture, was given a similar message! In Hybrid Children I cover some different possible meanings for this message, but the bottom line is, right now we can only wait and remember. "Remember" what the beings have told us, and "wait" to see if it comes to pass. And - we may not have to wait much longer. As the hybrid being told Kendra in 1995, "...the merging process is almost complete."



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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Nov 13th, 2002, 6:47pm

Thanks Louise for a riveting post.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by The Traveler on Nov 14th, 2002, 9:06pm

some interesting posts going down here, thanks folks. I love to come here and see all this new material, always new stuff everyday, thanks everyone.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by goblin79 on Nov 15th, 2002, 3:22pm

An early Blond humanoid report:

Aubagne, Bouches du Rhone, France
end of October 1959, time was 1800

Miss Moulet, 45, was hangig out her washing in the twilight, with her 3 children, when she saw an egg shaped object descend silently, to hover just above her. Through a wide triangular window in its front, strongly illuminated, she could see about 20 persons, tall, with wavy blond hair and very light skin, wearig white suits and short sleeves. They were smiling or perhaps laughing at her. The air became very cold. After 10-15 minutes the object took off again, disappearing in 2 or 3 seconds, leaving a slight trail.

Source: M Cohin of SVEPS in LDLN # 125

Why where they laughing?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Nov 16th, 2002, 7:52pm

Perhaps they were amused at the situation as a whole. Better they were smiling or laughing than giving her the stink eye. grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Nov 17th, 2002, 03:19am

Yeh, Backlit, I agree with that totally grin.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Nov 18th, 2002, 04:58am

They were probably laughing at someone hanging out clothes during twilight hours when there is no hope of the clothes dryinghuh? they probably think all humans are stupid.


Merlin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Nov 18th, 2002, 10:30pm

You just never know who's going to see how dingy your whites are.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Nov 19th, 2002, 6:53pm

Maybe thats why she was hanging them out at twilight. By the way, my wife says, "Tell them all I hang mine out at twilight as well...........In the summer, less pollution at night. So there you have it.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Nov 20th, 2002, 04:44am

Well there you go you learn something new every day now i know to hang my laundry out at twilight.


Merlin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by unknownplanet on Nov 21st, 2002, 05:58am

On the Taken preview last night on scifi, they had a segment on how they created the aliens for the series.
They would only give a hint, but did say they gave them pupils, and you could see them move. A new concept, but the brief glimpse they gave was fascinating. Thye will have the basic form of the grays, but a little bit different.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by lasernosemouse on Nov 23rd, 2002, 8:52pm

This guy is definately not of this world....

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Nov 25th, 2002, 10:44am

I am totally in agreement with the last few posts. When one considers the awesome number of other systems like ours, you just have to believe that we are not alone. The vast number of inhabitable planets mean living creatures of many types and shapes.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Dec 15th, 2002, 01:16am

What is up with these "mantis like" beings that are associated with the grays? Now it seems the grays have some sort of overlords to crack the whip when abductees don't cooperate. The line between scientific curiosity and just plain mean is getting a bit blurry when those guys are involved. I've only recently heard stories of them. Is this a new phenomena or are they mentioned throughout early reports deaing with grays?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Dec 15th, 2002, 06:29am

The "mantis" or insect looking creatures go back a long, long way. There have been reports of them for centuries, however, in more recent history, the grays have been described a bit shorter and fuller bodied. It doesn't look like to me that the mantis type creature could even hold itself up for long.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Dec 15th, 2002, 10:58am

Do you think the grays are just workers for these creatures? Reports I have read lately have the insect (mantis) creature encounters on board a craft. One of the persons on the show Abduction Diaries even mentions them.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Dec 16th, 2002, 12:33am

I think in some cases that may well be true. But remember, we are probably dealing with more than one species.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Louise on Dec 19th, 2002, 09:21am

These Mantis have been around for quite along time, they used to be also called the "Stick Creatures"
cause they were very tall and thin...
Below is a picture that an abductee drew in a case from Houston TX..Derrel Sims had sent me this awhile back when we were talking about these creatures.
Also this creature was mentioned in Whitley Strieber's book "Confirmation" Under the title of "Jesse's Story" in which Jesse plays with toys in a "room" of a "house" while a giant insect like praying mantis watches over him

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Arion on Dec 19th, 2002, 6:48pm

You know, I've often wondered what a human would look like thousands of years from now, factoring in the effects of various environmental and social changes. If the process of evolution is impacted by such external influences, then it shouldn't be very difficult to extrapolate from where we are today. We know enough about the climate changes that will most likely occure to predict the effects that it might have on humans as an organism. How we will have to adapt in order to survive these changes. Looking at our behavior as a society, we can probably make a good guess as to where our priorities might be. In addition, how will technology alter the way we function in our daily lives? How will discoveries beyond the borders of today's science effect the way we perceive our world. Here are just a few points to consider:

With the wearing away of the ozone layer, we will have to adapt to the presence of more ultra violet radiation. Might this mean changes in the structure of our eye, or a gradual move underground? Either way, we will most likely become paler in appearance and require some sort of protective eye gear.

The increased dependence on computers and micro technology in general will likely, as it has already - continue to make us a less active group. We would either become more obese (which, being a negative trait wouldn't contribute to survival) or "less" than we are. Muscular atrophy over time would produce a slighter human.

Assuming that our intelligence continues to increase, our craniums will need to become larger in order to house more brain cells.

If we are successful at clonning, and it becomes accepted practice, then hundreds of generations down the road we may start to look very similar to one another. There may even be an impact on our genitals, they might perhaps go along the same line as our musculature and diminish.

In fact, if we really let our mind wander down this path, we might find that thousands of years from now we look startlingly like today's ET!

In my humble opinion, there is a strong argument to be made for the "us from the future" theory. But then again, they could look however we want them to look, or like nothing at all. We see what we want to see...
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Dec 20th, 2002, 8:38pm

Louise, after looking at that drawing I would much rather be visited by the grays... preferably "Gina". wink
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Jan 4th, 2003, 04:56am

Theres also a film, quite old, but very good, called "Quatermass and the pit" in which they find a craft burried deep underground piloted by locust type creatures and the woman co-star is able to show what their planet was like through some sort of telepathy. Just thought I`d point this one out, but your right Backlit, give me the grays anyday.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Jan 4th, 2003, 1:26pm

There was a series of about four or five "Quartermass" films done by Hammer studios back in the mid 50's to late 60's. "Quartermass and the Pit" was one of the last ones in the series I think. All of them are worth watching.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Jan 6th, 2003, 3:36pm

I remember that movie, the investigators were able to communicate with them through mental pictures, a very good film actually. These type of so-called "B" movies are my favorites. I guess that ages me.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rocketman on Jan 11th, 2003, 05:31am

This was a great show, I have seen it twice, but it has been awhile. I recall that when they came close to the craft, some type of frequency or something overcame them. I wonder what the name of this movie was?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Jan 11th, 2003, 10:15am

The movie was release in England as "Quartermass and the Pit" the title for the American release was " Five Million Years To Earth". Story line was really good but the aliens left a little bit to be desired, of course it was in the 60's when it was made.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Backlit on Jan 13th, 2003, 02:25am

1953, ungodly bad movie by the title of Robot Monster and for some reason retitled as Monsters From The Moon. Gorilla suit and a diving helmet. What a memory you have. I saw that when I was about eight years old. Once was enough.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Jan 14th, 2003, 9:01pm

Yes I have to say that some of the 1950`s B-movies were great. Lets face it most of today`s great movies are re-makes of that era.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Sue on Jan 22nd, 2003, 06:39am

Extraterrestrials look like us because they are human also. Some galaxies may contain races we have never seen. However, the popular "gray" ones are nothing more than their spacesuits just as our astronauts wear spacesuits. The "big black bug eyes" are nothing more than the windows in their helmet, whic are shaped more like our sunglasses. If you believe that the Alien Face and Disc formation is authentic, then pay attention to the eyes. Real "eyes" are shown behind the "dark lenses" of the helmet. Oh and by the way, they don't abduct people either. If anyone claims to have been abducted, they were either on drugs, dreaming, misguided by their hypnotherapist, or all of the above. rolleyes
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Jan 23rd, 2003, 9:58pm

Hello Sue. It does not seem to matter where you post, we always get back to alien abductions. You really do have a problem with this subject don`t you. huh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Jan 24th, 2003, 05:37am

Rob Sue is obviously is a none believer where abductions are concerned which is great as it gives balance to the dicussions on here. Thats what forums are for to put your differing points of views forward. Anyway i remember those quartermass films they were great i must admit it's been a few years since i last saw them but yeah 1950's-1960's era films would look a little tacky compared to the exotic special effects we are used to now but for me thats all part of the caracter of the films.

Merlin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rob on Jan 25th, 2003, 08:34am

I totaly agree with you Merlin, this sort of thing does give the forum the balance it needs. I look forward to Sue and Rosie`s continued postings on all subjects. After all they are searching for the same thing as us. PROOF
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by AbductedSoul on Feb 3rd, 2003, 9:10pm

cool Exactly Well said everyone is entitled to their opinions/views/idealogy and when we truly learn this there will be world peace, harmony and maybe we will truly proceed into the next age and we can communicate freely with other life forms, no matter what they look like. A world with out predjuice, strife one of pure reason, malice gone envy gone only the greater good of all truly the issue. After all aliens do have to protect their families from such crude barbaric domineering traits. They have the advantage of seeing from outside the picture so to speak at the end result of these traits in our species Just a thought Peace and Safety AbductedSoul
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by electra on Feb 5th, 2003, 4:34pm

Very well said AbductedS that is something we all need more of, tolerance about those whose opinion are different than ours. I think it is human nature when we feel strongly about something to think anyone who differs in their viewpoint has to be wrong, and need to be educated until they accept OUR view. This is a fault of mine, and I am working on it, TOLERANCE.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Feb 16th, 2003, 06:05am

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 6th, 2003, 9:33pm

I forgot to give my web site;

http://users.adelphia.net/~ircon1/
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by burlingtonnews on Mar 6th, 2003, 11:25pm

Have you ever read the book, 'Co-Evolution'. I think that you might find this interesting.
Someone contacted our Ufo and Paranormal Center the other day requesting this book from our library.
It supposed to be a true story on a gentleman that was abducted by aliens, of which he spent 10 years of his life.
If you are interested in abductions, I highly recommend this book. Just go to your library . If they don't have it they will order it for you.
Mary


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Kahru on Mar 7th, 2003, 1:32pm

Dearest timetraveler,
I have just joined this group also and yrs is the first refreshingly positive post so far ( although i have only read a few) The general idea of most is that we contactees 'suffer from delusions or sleep paralysis undecided Anyhow, i really do understand that we are at different levels of our evolution!

I loved to hear of your experience, it was very interesting, and i intend to look at your web site too smiley
It tickled me that you were looking for a strange creature, and a man walked up to you cheesy I am aware from some of my encounters, that some of the entities are non-physical and will manifest to a 'safe' form, as did the entity of my first encounter, at the age of 8, i will describe it at length( if you wish to share it with me) later, you see my son is rather restless tonight and i need to get him settled in bed, i can't seem to get 5minutes peace, i'm sure you know what that is like? i'm guessing you are a father, would be lovely to chat soon, Love'n'Light Kahrusmiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by deniZen on Oct 15th, 2003, 06:28am

Thanks for the links, burlington, and timetraveler.

I have no idea why the topic of extraterresrial intelligence fascinates me, but I have had three sightings, although I've never had any close encounters to speak of.

kiss
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 18th, 2003, 08:58am

Much has been made regarding our "reality"and "truth".
Reality has many dimensions and is subject to the experiencer. Truth is relative and is a matter of convenience rather than an absolute concrete dogma. When you have experienced contacts or abductions with UFOs or Angels your concepts of truth and reality become altered and expanded and it is difficult to explain this to people who have not had similar experiences. Let's try to have an open mind and allow for things that we cannot understand.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Kahru
Post by B J Booth on Nov 1st, 2003, 02:11am

Kahru, we are certainly glad to have you here with us. I am not able to be here as much as I would like, but I do get by sometimes, and check out the new members. Iwant to welcome you to the boards, and hope you will be a regular poster.

B J
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Thomas on Nov 8th, 2003, 1:02pm

I agree with some of the posts, I would Imagine there are a lot of different species visiting the earth in all different shapes and sizes. I personally think the greys are drones manufactered to do the beckoning of another intelligence. There was a comment made by a retired American Airforce Pilot whom had a lot of dealings with U F O phenomena, as part of his duties during and after World War 2 was to photograph and collect as much data as possible on the phenomena and return to washinton. He did this on a regular basis he said that his military chiefs were very concerned that some species of Alien looked just like me or you, and you wouldn't no if one was walking past you in the street and so on. I always thought there was something strange about my mother in law!.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Nov 16th, 2003, 3:04pm

Thomas, welcome to wide wide world of UFOs. I have been fortunate in that I have had many contacts with UFOs and Angels. Sometimes I have met and talked to extraterrestrials who looked like young men in their '20s. Some UFOs apparently have the ability to "Morph" or "shape shift" or to take on any appearance that they wish. The way to determine if they are extraterrestrial is to look in their eyes. If you sense in them a calmness and a peacefulness and the feeling of command than the chances are that you are witnessing an extraterrestrial. Some of the UFOs sightings "Morph"from an energy Being to what appears to be a physical UFO craft. Some of the UFOs are holograms. We are dealing with very advanced and sophisticated technology and we shall have to learn new physics and interdimensional travel logistics.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Thomas on Nov 18th, 2003, 12:22pm

Hi Timetraveler, I think you have had some very interesting experiences and maybe I have too, without realising who knows. I myself have witnessed a UFO, as a teenager back in the 70s it resembled a stealth. This craft hovered over a busy shopping mall at the time I noticed it, I was out riding my bike with some friends. We saw this black like triangle shape moving erratically from left to right and it displayed manoeuvres no terrestrial craft could perform we made chase and followed it to a park some three miles from the mall. In the park it again performed more bizzare manoeuvres, and gave off a bright glow and an amazing display of colours. It seemed to dance in the sky for quite some time before it shot off into space leaving like a weird glow, I have never forgot it.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Layla on Nov 18th, 2003, 4:07pm

Quote:
When you have experienced contacts or abductions with UFOs or Angels your concepts of truth and reality become altered and expanded and it is difficult to explain this to people who have not had similar experiences.


That statement is soooo true......

Layla smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Nov 22nd, 2003, 6:09pm

thomas ; that was an interesting sighting that you had when you were riding your bike. UFOs play games with you but it was also to simulate your mind and your extrasensory perception to prepare you for future UFOs sightings. Remember that UFOs are able to perform multiple tasks so that while it was a game to you it was also serious to them.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Thomas on Nov 23rd, 2003, 09:14am

I have had similar UFO experiences over the years and I am wondering if it is connected to the one I experienced as a teenager. My wife and children have had UFO sightings too, during the day and night. The last time I had a UFO sighting was about a year ago in a remote area of Earlswood in the uk, it was about 10.30pm my Wife and I had been visiting some friends in Redditch. After leaving our friends I decided to drive back home through the countryside, as we reached Earlswood I felt ill so I pulled of the lane and parked my car. It was a secluded spot backing onto fields and surrounded by trees. I then got out of the car to get some air I noticed a bright light in the sky I thought it was just a plane, but then my wife shouted "lets go there's somthing strange about the light". But I felt drawn to it, as it got directly over me the lights went out and I saw weird glowing lights and a shape like the one many I had seen years earlier. But this moved slowly around the fields and just gradually went out of view, then I noticed it appear in the distance again it seemed to be hovering above the trees. Then it slowly returned to where I was and circled the area for 40 minutes or more, then dissapeared in the distance. Whilst watching this I noticed some sort of military planes in the area, at the same time the strange craft would fade away then re-appear when the planes had gone.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Nov 23rd, 2003, 6:38pm

Thomas; UFOs select the persons that they wish to contact. Usually these persons are contacted when they are young children. The UFOs follow up and continue to contact the same persons throughout their lives. Most of the UFO contactees are abductees who experienced a loss of time during the UFO contact. If we could access our past lives we would probably find out that UFOs contacted us in past lives also. Think about that.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Thomas on Nov 26th, 2003, 11:11am

Timetraveler; all the UFO sightings I have had over the years, there has never been any missing time like that of contactees or abductees! As for past lives who knows. What it all means is anybodys guess.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by iamperfection on May 10th, 2004, 06:33am

I believe that aliens would kinda look like the darleks

rolleyes

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 10th, 2004, 9:08pm

iamperfect: What is a darlek? Irwyn huh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by lowtech on Jul 12th, 2004, 10:15pm

What do human beings look like? Are they black?, white?, red?, yellow?

If the physics of nature held true, throughout the known universe, then any living organism or being, would have to be a product of the environmental conditions of the sphere--or solar body that they [the aliens] were born/hatched/manifested on.

However, there are a lot of planets that are made up of gas, like our very own Jupiter and Saturn. It is not likely that any organisms--cognitive or not, would develop there though. So we can probably rule out any of those types of planets as hosting any kind of life. And that would mostly leaves us with dirt or ground type planets. And depending on their life supporting conditions, trees, oceans, weather, volcanic activity etc.-- it is those conditions that would most likely dictate as to what kind of ETs, and what they would look like, that would develop there.

Now because of the myriad of energy fields that saturate the space in the universe, it is theoretically possible, that some alien beings may be made up of qurarks (subatomic particles). With a similar molecular composition as that of an energy field, but with some form of consciousness or awareness--although, not very likely. And they would not be made up of the same kind of organic chemicals and nucleic acids that humans, or the ilk, are microbiologically structured with.

But I have one simple point of view; “Anything within the universe, is made up of the same things as that which form the universe. So in a way, we are all brothers and sisters, under the skin...or scales as it were. User Image
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by diamond on Jul 13th, 2004, 1:19pm

on Jul 12th, 2004, 10:15pm, lowtech wrote:
What do human beings look like? Are they black?, white?, red?, yellow?

If the physics of nature held true, throughout the known universe, then any living organism or being, would have to be a product of the environmental conditions of the sphere--or solar body that they [the aliens] were born/hatched/manifested on.

However, there are a lot of planets that are made up of gas, like our very own Jupiter and Saturn. It is not likely that any organisms--cognitive or not, would develop there though. So we can probably rule out any of those types of planets as hosting any kind of life. And that would mostly leaves us with dirt or ground type planets. And depending on their life supporting conditions, trees, oceans, weather, volcanic activity etc.-- it is those conditions that would most likely dictate as to what kind of ETs, and what they would look like, that would develop there.

Now because of the myriad of energy fields that saturate the space in the universe, it is theoretically possible, that some alien beings may be made up of qurarks (subatomic particles). With a similar molecular composition as that of an energy field, but with some form of consciousness or awareness--although, not very likely. And they would not be made up of the same kind of organic chemicals and nucleic acids that humans, or the ilk, are microbiologically structured with.

But I have one simple point of view; “Anything within the universe, is made up of the same things as that which form the universe. So in a way, we are all brothers and sisters, under the skin...or scales as it were. User Image


got to agree with you lowtech . variety is the spice of life and we are the stuff of stars, no doubt. cool

a little antenna would be a nice touch though don't you think? grin grin the only thing that concerns me is would they speak english with an american accent? grin

diamond
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by lowtech on Jul 13th, 2004, 7:23pm

on May 6th, 1970, 10:03pm, diamond wrote:
a little antenna would be a nice touch though don't you think? grin grin the only thing that concerns me is would they speak english with an american accent? grin


Well, we have already encountered such a species--with antennae. They are known as; Andorians. And as far as speaking English with an American accent goes, that probably all depends on whether they land east, like New York, or down south yall.User Image
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by minitrue on Jul 13th, 2004, 9:28pm

They'll prob try and blend in and say "Yo Yo Waz up." shocked grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:00am

What an interesting thread!!!!! It is important to have an open mind and to be capable of imagining and concepting any possible Being to exist in this or any other Universe. When you start establishing environmental necessities to qualify certain lifeforms you are limiting yourself to a tunnel vision comprehension.
There are many Universes and many physical Solar Systems as well as many Dimensional Worlds which do not obey the laws and requirements of physical Worlds. These other Dimensional Worlds are populated by astral or mental or energy Beings. These astral or mental or energy Beings can assume any shape or form that they desire. This is beyond our understanding and perhaps for many people beyond their imagination or comprehension. But it is true, and these elements must be considered in the understanding of Creation.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by diamond on Jul 17th, 2004, 5:18pm

i think i may have mentioned before, here , about our propensity toward seeing all things in relation to us .eg. size. most ufo reports tend to have a relationship with earthly dimensions , as in the size of the occupants or the craft themselves. whilst a " land of the giants" scenario may be a little far fetched for some (anybody remember that tv series or am i just too old) i think it may well be a possibility. some theories of the past have concluded that planets with greater gravity force than our own would not be possible to visit as we would be unable to move. they therefore dismissed any idea of life existing on these worlds. surely a creature could develop in these environments with the critical strength etc to survive there, just as we do here. also the opposite (weaker gravity) should also be possible.
therefore on a heavy planet one could expect large strong creatures , whilst on a light planet smaller less muscular ones. this could also raise the question of the dinosaurs on earth. was the gravitational pull stronger back then ? could a lightening of such gravity helped in their demise? huh huh
just a thought . any ideas? wink

diamond
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 19th, 2004, 2:36pm

To Diamond, it is so much easier to think about physical Planets and physical inhabitants who populate these Planets. That narrows down the search. This requires a basic logic in which we use ourselves as guidelines. However this does not answer for the myriad of extra Dimensional Worlds and extra Dimensional Beings. Also this will not help us to explain or understand the grotesque creatures that attack humans in our-times and which were recorded in books of mythology and in the statues of gargoyles and winged creatures in the architecture of many buildings in the World.
You will also not understand UFOs if you use physical criteria and guidelines. The Human Race is a limited experiment on a limited Planet in a limited Solar System, in a limited Universe. what about the astral and mental and energy Beings who reside in other Dimensional Worlds, beyond our knowledge or understanding? What about Angels? Where do they live? Do they live on physical planets? Are they physical like us?
Let us expand our reasoning ability and our imaginations!!!!

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ananoki on Aug 25th, 2004, 09:41am

OH, did anyone saw the film MATRIX ? I think you do...

What is reality if we don't have full control on our life?

Sometimes all our sences can be deceived by apparences or even our mind...In this century our mind is very important, because others want full control...

I saw an alien looking like this, do you also cut them or
gain a full control on this alien, I don't think so... shocked

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Sep 12th, 2004, 8:27pm

Being an abductee i have been able to witness at least 3 different types of beings. Ive been taken since i was 5 yrs old and i turned 50 this year so its been something that had gone on for a long time. The beings i saw are listed below: I say had because it hasnt happened in several years and im hoping it stays that way.

* the short grays and the tall grays

* a hybrid female (taller than the short grays, very thin (think calista flockhart thin in that white dress thin) (sorry calista), light porcelin almost white/gray complexion with very fine wispy patches of light colored (almost a soft white) hair on her head. Extremely thin fingers. Eyes larger than human but not as large as the grays, would stand out very easily here on earth. (in the gray species tho)

* hybrid baby, very fragile sickly preemie looking baby, more human looking than the hybrid female, but would still stand out easily as being alien here on earth. Same, wispy fine light hair (also the gray species)

* the teacher, totally different than the previous or from the grays. Im 5'3, he stood about 2-3 inches taller than me. Very dark complexion, very thin, face was very wrinkled , extremely so. Eyes appeared oriental with a small mouth and seemed to have ears but were more just stubs or the upper part of human ears. Very close to his head, almost flattened. Wore a very heavy brown robe with a hood that was pushed back. Hair, fine patches here and there but unlike the hybrids, his appearance looked as if he had been thru radiation or chemotherapy. Patches uneven and his face appeared to have been severely burnt, ( the heavy wrinkling affect) but i dont believe it was. I think thats just what they looked like although he is the only one ive seen of his kind. Also this one is the only one who ever appeared somewhat compassioniate, or perhaps just seemed to understand human emotion as oppose to the grays.

The ones who abducted me were the short grays, the others were seen one time only during different abductions on seperate occasions. The tall grays were with the teacher. The short grays were with the female hybrid and the hybrid baby.
QoH
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by B J Booth on Sep 13th, 2004, 11:04pm

I would just like to say to you that if you ever feel like putting your story down in writing, I would be glad to help you out. I realize the sensitive nature of the subject, yet several abductees I have been involved with do not have a problem with relating their account, especially after some time has elapsed.

If you would be interested, contact me at:

webmaster@ufocasebook.com

thanks,

B J
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by stormweather on Oct 20th, 2004, 2:32pm

Well they may not be very pretty but let's not say anything cause aliens have feelings too.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by stormweather on Oct 20th, 2004, 2:33pm

Well they may not be very pretty but let's not say anything cause aliens have feelings too.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Oct 20th, 2004, 3:21pm

Bj, might hold you to that offer, if it was directed to me.
thanks

qoh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Dec 11th, 2004, 02:35am

I think that the first species of Alien to make official contact with us humans will look alot like world famous astronomer Patrick Moore. Originating from a small moon orbiting a Planet in the constellation of Virgo. Contactees of these beings say the race of alien had first become aware of Earth while looking through their huge telescopes. Some contactees were said to have been amazed, even shocked, some requiring professional counselling following the experience. "There was no telepathic contact made, they just mumbled incoherantly. If there's one thing you don't forget it's that magnified eye. It's got a glass like sheen and seems to hang there with no apparent means of support. Spooky."

Post by starman on Dec 12th, 2004, 2:38pm

O.k, time to be serious. It is my personal belief that offworld beings are so numerous, as to be uncountable. It is after all an infinite universe with an infinite number of possibilities. It is amazing when you stop to think about that for a minute. Infinity, how can you begin to comprehend something that is at this very moment expanding. I think it's obvious to those who study or even believe in the possibility of alien life, that we are at this very moment being monitored, visited, studied by quite a few species and varients of alien. Some, wish mankind harm, some are trying to enlighten us to the fact that we are not alone, most are waiting until the moment is right to make their presence and intentions known. There has been alot of evidence regarding abductees that our DNA is being taken, sometimes resulting in hybrid beings. It is true that the Grays are becoming more prominent in these activities. It is easy to assume that because these activities are conducted without permission, that there is a more sinister agenda at work. The mere appearance of the Grays is Demon-like. Could we not be using our own beliefs in what a Demon or Devil would appear like to judge their intentions. Let's not forget that their have been positive responses from these beings regarding their intentions to mankind. True, these could have the desired affect of tricking man into thinking their intensions or activities will ultimately benefit us in some way. My opinion on their intentions remains open, but i lean towards them being positive. Why go to the trouble of showing these abductees their hybrid offspring. I think there's an element of caring involved there. It is true that abductees would rather this didn't happen to them, and reletively few, if any, regard this as a positive aspect of their life. But what if this is being done for the good of mankind, what if the reason is so big it has no time for willingness to participate. If we were the advanced ones trying to help out a less advanced species in some way that requires the taking of DNA, would we still carry out those activities without their approval, if we knew that ultimately it would benefit them, and the reason for doing so was so big we couldn't afford to ask for approval incase they didn't understand our reasons fully. As for the variety of Aliens, and their appearance, the number and variety grows with the passage of time.

Watch the skies.

P.S: Patrick Moore was not available for comment!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 12th, 2004, 5:31pm

Darkman, thank you for your very intelligent dissertation. Judging by the facts that these ET's control the minds and the environments of their visitation, why would they bother to trick us?
This planet is the biggest show in town and we attract visitors from many other worlds and dimensions. Some of these visitors are technicians whose function is to research and implement a hybrid race, which is the next step in our evolution. These are the artificial intelligence manufactures which we call the "grays".
Other visitors are mental and astral entities which are from the fourth dimension and which "crossover" to our world and assume monstrous shapes and forms similar to those depicted in mythology.
Other beings are merely spectators who wish to observe the human race in its last phase of evolution.
As you have so wisely remarked, the universe is infinite and has an infinite number of diverse lifeforms.
Don't we have diverse lifeforms and species on our planet?
We need to develop a more cosmic and universal thinking.
What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Dec 12th, 2004, 6:13pm

First of all, thanks for your kind words regarding my post. I agree that we need to develop a more cosmic and universal approach to this. We tend to think of this, myself included, in black and white. There are endless interpretations and agendas at work here. We cannot begin to understand, as a species, the reasons for, or the intensions of, the visitors to our planet without allowing ourselves the opportunity, however brief, to firstly consider all possibilities. I think that once you open yourself up to all possible reasons or eventual outcomes of this phenomena, you can then start to examine them one by one. Only then will we even begin to comprehend what awaits us as a species. Some people are oblivious to the fact that this planet is being visited, let alone being visited by numerous breeds or species of aliens. The human race needs to first, accept this, at least as a possibilty. Thankfully, there are some of us whose mind is sufficiently open to allow this notion in.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 13th, 2004, 08:02am

I think that it is very interesting that ET's abduct members of the same family for many years. Are they doing case studies? Members of the same family have the same DNA. When these people are abducted are experiments performed on their DNA and genes which are monitored years later by ET's?
I think that the human race is part of an experiment and the ET's are conditioning us for the next phase of our evolution, perhaps as a hibrid future race. It is no secret that in our present form we are a self-destructive race whose main preoccupation is war and self-destruction. Maybe it is time for a change.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by diamond on Dec 13th, 2004, 11:28am

as a species we have advanced very little in the past 2000 years. we still settle our differences by war , we still plunder the planet for riches , the same imperialist methods of control started by the romans exist today and the people are still slaves to the corporate world although now we are called the working class. sure our clothing ,transport, and technology has advanced a few degrees , but mankind would still be arguably the most barbaric species in the universe and greed is it's master. it is most certainly time for change, although i cannot see the powers that be in this world giving up their grip on the status quo by turning their weapons into ploughshears just yet. it will take either great strength in leadership to change things or a revelation of immense proportions( such as e.t. forcing peace on the world) before the evil ones are defeated here on earth.

on another track i would just like to say that the present representation of aliens as being these skinny guys with huge eyes is probably wrong. for one thing, if you look at the artist sketches of the eyes and take the normal view that they would be spherical , most of the eyes depicted would be the size of bowling balls . eyes that large if they indeed fitted into the craniums depicted would leave very little space for a brain of any great dimension.
i would lean towards the notion that aliens of similar size to humans would probably be of a similar makeup proportionately.on the other hand why do we insist that they would be of our size at all. it would surely depend on the evolutionary aspects peculiar to their own planet.

diamond
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Dec 17th, 2004, 07:06am

Seem to have drifted from original question. Oh well, never mind, here we go.


The human race is indeed, at this moment in time, the most barbaric, greed driven, vile species around. We are at a low point even by our standards. A time when we look desperately to the heaven's for help and inspiration. Help which we desperately require. We all, as a species, possess free will, this is a gift to mankind, a gift which we constantly abuse. Even with the gift of free will, we still choose to solve the world's problems with military conflict and force. When will we learn that this is not the way to find peace in the world. The way to world peace is to first, wake up to the realisation that their is so much more to this life and universe we inhabit, realisation of our true potential for greatness and love for all living beings, to have an understanding and acceptance of all religions. A love for one another instead of hatred. We need to open our eyes and see the bigger picture. The reality that is around us all times, the one we choose to ignore by keeping ourselves apparently safe in the realisation that we are in control of everything we see and hear. Mankind will not realise his true potential until he first accepts this is not the case. Only when the realisation has been made and accepted can we then see things how they truly are. Instead of reassuring ourselves that we are in contrtol, and confirming that notion with our actions, we should instead open our hearts, eyes and minds to the wonders and universal love that is waiting to be given. We possess so much, but see so little.

I don't think it's only technology that is stopping us from venturing off this planet. I think we would not be welcome at this present time. Does mankind think that his actions justify him being aloud or welcomed into the galactic brotherhood? The so called 'Aliens' are monitoring our species very closely. Hoping, waiting for us to finally make the realisation that our past ways need to be changed, and changed radically. Man will be given every oportunity to change his ways, and his destiny, but if he doesn't there will be, i believe, an intervention from above. If that's the case, it's gonna be worldwide in a matter of seconds. 'They' will, all of a sudden, make their presence known during a time of severe turmoil on earth. The skies will be filled with flying craft of all shapes, colours and sizes. The dark ones will be poised, ready to seize their opportunity. There will follow a battle in the skies and space over mankind's destiny, (the ultimate battle between good & evil). It will occur when man has, for the last time, chosen to use his free will in a manner that will, i believe, lead to World War III, when we have travelled too far down the path toward self destruction to stop the process ourselves. If there is no intervention, then evil would've prevailed. Pure evil will never prevail against the power of good. Therefore, intervention will occur. I believe this to be true with every part of my being. 'They' will not forsake us in our hour of need. Hopefully it's not too late to stop these wheels from being put in motion, and mankind can secure his own place in what potentially awaits us. To use his free will in a positive manner, a manner that will enable us to progress positively on a spiritual level .

That's my personal belief, that it won't be allowed to end in the fire of a nuclear exchange. That mankind will not be allowed to wipe itself out. What a waste of potential that would be. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, and i know some people will read this, and think, oh no, not again, but the way i see it, we are an important piece of the jigsaw, a cog in the mechanism that is 'intelligent life'. It cannot be allowed to end like that. Our very existence here on Earth is too precious, and there is alot of interest in our planet and mankind in general, enough to make me think that we will be given a helping hand, if the time comes that we desperately need it. Is it just me, or does anybody else get the feeling, when walking late at night, with a clear sky, and all those stars, that something is looking back at you? Something is keeping a close eye on us. I think that is obvious.

This is how i see it, that mankind, as i've said, will be given every chance to mould his own destiny in a positive manner. We already know that these guys don't want to particulary intervene in man's affairs, at the moment, anyway. But while we continue to destroy life, give in to greed etc, we are doing ourselves no favours. I am not trying to preach to anyone, as i'm not a religious person. It's just the way i see things. That is, that there is good and evil in any beings capable of intelligent thought. Man has lent toward his darker side on quite a few occasions. And it makes sense that where there is evil, there is good. Man is capable of both extremes. Each individual must choose to ignore these negative thoughts that inflict us all from time to time. Must choose which path to walk down in life, and if mistakes are made, which inevitably they will be, to learn from these, and ultimately become a better person. It all seems to build to a bigger meaning, kind of like a learning process, which will ultimately determine your goal or reason to which you struggle through life's many problems. All i'm saying is higher intelligences, spiritual entities etc, who monitor man's progress closely, will, in my opinion, not let the learning process end here.

I used to have a dream, quite regular, about the skies all of a sudden being filled with flying vehicles of all shapes and sizes. Most of them were massive. All were black and silent. I think this was the dark ones, as there was a feeling attached to this dream, one of dread and fear. I think this was trying to convey a message to me, maybe it was that i would be advised to try and change my ways, and realise to whome it is that i show alegience.

We are, as a species, on the brink of becoming the masters of DNA, and in effect emulating the Gods, as far as having the power to create life goes. This, i believe will be a turning point for man, as long as we no longer take life away with equal force. It could be a test which all heavenly species have to undergo and pass. When a species reaches this point in it's evolution, it would've already mastered the splitting of the Atom. Some would have used the result in anger, like man. Some would not. It is some achievement to be able to split the Atom, it is a greater achievement to have harnessed this technology and not used it in anger against your own species, or any other species. Say that you don't wipe yourself out, but instead go on to become masters of genetic science. This could be a benchmark by which all species are allowed off planet. Once you poccess the ability to create life, and don't destroy it instead. Once you have attained the power of creation, and are free to move on to the next level. If man does, and i believe he will, venture into space, and towards other planets, it will be at the will of our brothers, we would've left behind our destructive ways for this to occur. I don't think they would like our species on other planets at this time. We still have to grow-up spiritually. We cannot accept other religions, different races etc on our own planet. How could we begin to accept beings not of this world. Would we not, if allowed, at this stage, approach them in a war-like posture?

It was a hard decision for me whether to post this or not, i feel i have for the first time made an effort, given my limited comprehension, to express my true feelings on the subject matter. There are bits i would've missed out, not through intention. But i hope i was able to express my general ideas and thoughts adequately enough.

As for who the dark ones are, i remain open, i'm gonna reserve judgement on that one for now. I found this quote from 'the shape of things to come', it does little to clarify this.

Pleiadians landing in physical Beamships for face-to-face discussions, discarnate Sirians, Cassiopaeans and other extraterrestrials/ultraterrestrials telepathically broadcasting from the depths of space, or even the much-maligned Zeta Reticulan "Grays," who, when they break away from their ill-understood genetic/biological activities long enough to communicate with their human abductees, most often prove themselves to be in full agreement with their off-world brethren across the whole wide spectrum of direct Human/ET contact.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 19th, 2004, 6:26pm

Thank you darkman and diamond for your heartfelt and illuminating postings. I do not believe that E.T.s are here to improve their race. We are the problem in the Universe, not them. We endanger the Universe balance. We are self destructive and suicidal, not them. They percieve that if we are left alone we would destroy our planet and this would send shock waves and imbalance to the rest of the Universe. Therefore, they have to remake us into a more civilized and non destructive species. That is why millions of people have been abducted and their destructive genetic coding has been altered. This is not a game people, this is a matter of the survival of this planet and of the human race and the safety and security of the Universe.

What do you think? irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by backlit on Dec 19th, 2004, 9:12pm

smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Dec 20th, 2004, 02:07am

Good point timetraveler, (Irwyn), There's a bigger issue at stake here. It's like a parent trying to teach their young the right ways and the wrong ways in life. You can try and try, but they must ultimately choose which path they take. If you're efforts are, in the end, futile, you must try to make the best of a bad situation, or adopt a different approach. This's not all about us, we are, and if allowed, will continue polluting the universe with our destructive behaviour. It's time for a radical shift in our perception of ourselves and those we affect.

We do tend to judge their intentions based on our own selfish qualities. Just because they haven't landed on the White House Lawn yet we tend to think that their reasons for what they are doing must be sinister in some way. We are judging something we don't understand based on our standards.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by diamond on Dec 20th, 2004, 11:21am

well said.

diamond
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2004, 5:58pm

Thank you shaman and diamond for your most intelligent postings. I agree with shaman that there are caretakers [Angels]?, who are guardians of the Universe and who monitor the Universe and intervene to prevent any disruption of the balance. I also do not believe that Man in his present physical form is capable of space travel or interdimensional travel. This was indicated in the kidnapping of two Mars space probes by UFOs. I do not believe that Mankind can save itself without intervention by higher Worlds.
I do not have any faith in Mankind saving itself, but I do have faith in the intervention of higher worlds.
What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2004, 6:18pm

Shaman, concerning your dream. As part of my psychic abilities, I'm also a dream analyst.
The large black spacecraft, which you saw in your dreams represents black signifying the unknown or the future, or that which you cannot understand. The largeness of the spacecraft and the multitude of them signifies that this is a large event of a great magnitude, beyond your understanding of your life experience.
As a summation ; this dream is a forecast that U.F.O.s will come and fill the skies with enormous spacecraft when they come to save this Planet.
What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tabitha on Dec 28th, 2004, 4:53pm

I believe aliens on the most part look like us. Perhaps they change their appearence to each individuals understanding of them. Show themselves the way we wish to see them within our own mind.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 28th, 2004, 6:29pm

To Tabitha, ET's come in all kinds of shapes and forms and none of them resemble us. Sorry about that. However, Angels take the form and wear the religious clothing of the contactee. Therefore, if you are a religious Jew, they may come to you in the white robes of Moses, if you are religious Catholic or Christian that same Angel may come to you as Jesus or the holy Virgin.
The human form is not in the image of the Creator, the Soul is. We must raise our consciousness level to understand UFOs, ET's, and Angels.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tabitha on Dec 28th, 2004, 6:47pm

To timetraveller that was pretty much what I was trying to say about aliens taking the form about how we wish to see them within our own minds. On the other hand, I still beleive that some, not all, do resemble us, being our Elders that is. Thanks for your response. Yes I do agre that there are some, not all come in various forms and intelligence. cheesy
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by HUBCAP9 on Dec 29th, 2004, 12:26pm

I believe that aliens come in all shapes and sizes.I also believe that some of them are human in appearance and that they are genetically related to ourselves. smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jan 4th, 2005, 12:53am

timetraveler: Sorry, been away 4 a while. Changed my name again, (Darkman, shaman + now starman). It was interesting what you said about my dream. Interpreted it slightly different myself. But what you said makes some sense to me. Had another 1 the other day. This time in broad daylight. I've had similiar 1's in the past aswell. I was with other people this time, although i can't remember who. It started off with a few hand glider shaped craft that would move in a zig-zag motion, then i'd look to a different point in the sky and see hoards of wierd shaped craft. They were all flying, or in some cases swimming, in their respective groups. Some were perfect jellyfish shapes. Thought it wouldn't be as sinister as the other dream, but i vaguely remember the outcome not being a positive 1.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Jan 4th, 2005, 5:28pm

Although I have read a lot of books and read info in websites about what aliens might look like, I don't know. I believe they are monitoring and are affecting us in many ways. Perhaps the only time the wars will possibly end is when there is a much greater need to focus on that might unite us. Although there are many many in the world who are interested only in war, and plundering the natural resources of the planet, there are others moving in the background in a quiet revolution. These are just my personal beliefs. I believe that for every greedy warmongering person, there are people who are changing other people one person at a time. I do believe that there are people who were placed here to teach things like alternative forms of resolving conflict, taking care of our precious planet and caring truly for each other. I really want to believe that nations can come together as quickly as they did recently to aid earthquake and tsunami victims. They may need to wake up to the increasing catastrophic changes that are taking place.
Perhaps this is just my hope, but I have seen that there are so many good people around. And I have mat people who have been wonderful guides along the way. I think they are here being used for the purpose of spreading the quiet revolution to peace.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Jan 9th, 2005, 10:39pm

I saw an alien once that was a color of green that cannot be made while mixing colors.

It was the greenest green I have ever seen. It was a forest green but dayglow. You can't mix dayglow with forest green because the green would no longer be dayglow.

He had a lime shaped head and eyes that were nothing I had ever seen or heard described before. they were the typical large slanted kind toward the outsides, except for where our tear ducts were, at that area the eye did not come to a point but instead stopped in a vertical manner.

The nose was typical with the two small holes and the mouth was typical as well.

The body was extremely skinny but he still managed to keep his head on his shoulders. His head was massive. I would say about 15 inches wide at the outer points. Remember, it looked like a lime, so like the lime, it has round points on each side. Also like the lemon.

He had a personality too and loves to instill intimidation.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 10th, 2005, 5:51pm

Star man, please allow me to interpret your latest dream. What you were shown in this dream was that some of the ET's do not require physical spaceships for transportation from their fourth dimensional World to our third dimensional World.
Their "vehicle" is their own organic self or in higher Beings they travel as pure energy. Allow me to cite an example from my own experience;

My first UFOs sighting was about 1949. I was 19 years old at that time. I was in the backyard of my mother's house in Brooklyn and I was looking at the stars with an eight power binocular and I was looking at the Big Dipper in particular.
Then I noticed what appeared to be one of the stars that just glided across that constellation. When I followed it with the binoculars, it was an amber colored light and although I looked at it with the binoculars I did not see any structure or solid material. I have been psychic all of my life and when I tried to "sense" the structure of that U.F.O., I felt that it was not a spacecraft in the orthodox sense but was rather a living being manifesting as a globe of light. I also "sensed" that this amber colored light was a messenger that was connecting to other UFOs. What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by lizardsamok on Jan 12th, 2005, 05:51am

Myself and a friend saw 2 lizzard men IN PERSON !!!,
so if you want to know what this kind "really" look like here is the closest you'll hopefully ever get.

User Image
I drew pictures and listed my story here..
http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/saurian/

By what name would you call them by these images?

Other people call them:

gods
spirits
satan
angels
fallen angels
demons
devil
Sauroids
dinosaur men
lizard men
saurians
reptiles
reptilians
reptoids
slestack
dragons
draco
drack
serpents
serpent race
snake men
little green men
sheti
jinn
the Naga
Quetzalcoatl
ect.

did i miss any in english at least? lol

And if this is to hard to belive for you,belive me i know,
but this is for real... and im no longer exited in a good way towards other species.

If you see a ufo close - RUN
lest you be deer in headlights as we were.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Esther on Jan 16th, 2005, 11:24am

Is there any one out there who can help?,
can any one shed some light on the word ordan, to do with aliens, also is there some thing about their fingers and do they have a thing about water.Last of all if I may do they rearly have big heads in proportion to their bodies, with large eyes and pale skin.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Jan 17th, 2005, 09:55am

hey esther,
thats my sisters name. smiley Ordan, where did you hear that if i might ask?
qoh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Esther on Jan 17th, 2005, 12:09pm

Re origin of name/word ordan,
Recentley drifting off to sleep, I was aware of 3 typical, type cast aliens by my bed.Small in stature, big heads and eyes.I have trained as a medium, so I have seen some amazeing things, I pretended I wasnt aware of them, they or one came back a few days later, communicating through my third eye with me, giveing me the word ordan, talking about their fingers( there long)and they have a problem with water.I live near Liverpool,England by the sea,not a place ufos appear, though last year the spiritulist development circle I was in was an experemental one,two of the members had experiences with alien contact,and our teacher was open to this.Unfortunatley Im no longer with the group, and the group left the church anyway because of differences.Spiritulisum and aliens and other things we wanted to experiment with didnt conform to ethics.I didnt imagine what I saw,proof will be regarding ordan, and what they conveyed to me regarding water, fingers.Is there anyone out there who can help
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Isaw1again on Mar 6th, 2005, 01:07am

Hi, Esther, of course we care and want you to let us know how your doing. By the way, I was reading pg.3. I wanted to remind everyone about the story Louise posted on that page. The German woman's story. True story. Later on, Ron
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Mar 6th, 2005, 3:44pm

esther i totally understand where youre coming from. Ive also heard three words that i have no clue what they mean. Oer dagnath stath. youd think the aliens would pick someone smarter to abduct huh? sorry grays, if youre trying to get something across to me, youd better learn english quick cause i aint getting it and i dont intend to do your research for ya buddies.
qoh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 7th, 2005, 12:50pm

Replying to Esther, dream communication is a valuable teaching tool. In dream symbology three means the totality;spirit, mind, body. The ET's were showing you that they are not like humans. They do not have a thumb like we do. Therefore they do not grip or grasp objects with their fingers. Some U.F.O.S require water for the propulsion of their spacecraft. There have been many reports of UFOs, draining a lake of a large quantity of water and then dumping fish and other materials found in that lake a distance away. E.T.'s do not object to giving out information inasmuch as they have nothing to fear from us.
Also in dream symbology a taller figure means a higher evolution. The fact that these three figures were short means that they were not a higher evolution than us. In my communication with Angels they have always appeared taller than me.
When ET's abduct they create a two way communication network. They can not only read our minds, but we can communicate with and question their minds. Why don't we mentally ask them who they are, where they come from, and who we are and where do we come from etc.etc.? This is a valuable resource that we are not using.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by duneguy on Mar 7th, 2005, 5:07pm

The human mind has unlimited and as yet untapped powers and abilities. shocked

It would seem to me both likely and advisable to take this communication approach -- not continue the wasted efforts put forth by SETI & others wink
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 7th, 2005, 7:36pm

Duneguy, I agree with you that the Seti group is ludicrous and a waste of time and money and energy. They think that ET's use BellSouth to communicate? Or do they have an 800 number? Or are they just unlisted?
Why must we limit the ET's to our expectations of what we think they are? In the abductions the ET's communicate with their minds, not with telephones or communication devices. We are dealing with ET's that major in mind control and psychic abilities, not in physical dexterity all manual functioning.
We should try to organize the abductees and use them to communicate with the ET's. When the ET's abduct people. They make a communications connection with the abductees. We should use this connection to question them and to get answers. This would be a worthwhile research project.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by duneguy on Mar 7th, 2005, 10:08pm

I agree that coordinated communication is the key...

Remember the Navaho code-talkers from WWII ? It seems that massing together the talents, experiences and unique knowledge of like-minded individuals can go a LOOOOONG way. wink

Who needs SETI, if this type of suggestion can be undertaken huh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Isaw1again on Mar 9th, 2005, 11:28pm

All of you are right. I know a guy running SETI 24/7 and it's a waste. Honestly, I beleive we have become mutants. Once it was common to know how others feel, and be able to have meaningful moments with the ability to heal and love over distances. Some Humans have not been so mutated these are the indians/ aboriginies. I present proof: (1) Book; Rolling Thunder, (2) Mutant Message Down Under. If you never read either of these, then being a mutant seems normal. I know I'm really a Mutant. I take very little time in life to feel how things are. Daily BS replaced important things, sad. True. Sincerely, Ron
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Mar 10th, 2005, 08:58am

Quote:
We should try to organize the abductees and use them to communicate with the ET's. When the ET's abduct people. They make a communications connection with the abductees. We should use this connection to question them and to get answers. This would be a worthwhile research project.


rolleyes uhm you mean CONTACTEES not abductees right??
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by duneguy on Mar 10th, 2005, 08:59am

My studies on Native American spiritualisn have been enlightening. Much of mankind has lost the knowledge of our inherent extrasensory capabilities . embarassed

If I can locate my info on all of this, maybe I will post a new thread. smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Mar 10th, 2005, 09:19am

on Mar 10th, 2005, 08:58am, queenofhearts wrote:


rolleyes uhm you mean CONTACTEES not abductees right??


I couldn't figure out where you got that quote from qoh but there are two kinds of contactees. Scratch that, I see it was timetravelers.

There are those who have a two way communication and there are those who unknowingly are being used for the same. This type of contactee is the most prevalent and in considerably larger numbers.

I am thoroughly convinced that there isn't a single abductee that wasn't implanted in some fashion for something particular in their life. And some of us are capable of the druther, which is a holy hell where the others are not privy to what's happening to them and just have certain unusual pains (on again-off again) that they cannot account for.

It appears that a particular implant, which I think is the more common, is used for a human to experience human spirits, where as before they experienced none. It wouldn't be a complicated implant like the ones I believe I have.

I have that mindset to do something again about it too. Had a real bad day yesterday, which set me in gear to pursue this implant search and removal thing again.

oljack666
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Mar 10th, 2005, 09:42am

just keeps getting better and better doesnt it? dont blame you for wanting that thing out of you hon. but ive been down this road before, one is taken out, then later another is put in. so it never really ends. as for the different types of contactees, i guess im the one that is not privy to things, and in the long run thats best for me. I dont think i could stand it listening to them chatting with me or sending me images. Then again, how do i really know some of my thoughts are really my own huh?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Mar 10th, 2005, 10:25am

"Then again, how do i really know some of my thoughts are really my own huh?"

Exactly.

Human spirits are in on this and have given them permission to do so in my case anyway. Or so they say. I've questioned for some time if these are human spirits at all or just another con on myself from ET. They are the masters of just that so for now like I said a moment ago, I'm shifting gears. I'm not one to be snowed, especially by them and I have had a strong suspicion for many years that the ones that claim to be human spirits are not at all.

oljack666
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 17th, 2005, 10:48pm

Infinity would suggest infinite possibilities etc. To understand this with a mind set on solving worldly issues with brute force isn't happening. I'd like to believe in any possible variant of et until it's proven beyond a doubt this's not possible.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Mar 17th, 2005, 11:26pm

on Mar 17th, 2005, 10:48pm, starman wrote:
Infinity would suggest infinite possibilities etc. To understand this with a mind set on solving worldly issues with brute force isn't happening. I'd like to believe in any possible variant of et until it's proven beyond a doubt this's not possible.


But that's all they do with me is discuss worldly issues. I still think that their are multiple variations of ET's but they seem to all have a similar game plan. Rather not repeat myself here since I've mentioned my experiences around the board in various threads and I hate to sound redundant.

oljack666
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 18th, 2005, 5:04pm

To be redundant of spirit and belief and learning, to name but three, is true redundantness. Is that a word by the way? Redundantness?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Mar 18th, 2005, 6:22pm

The word you were looking for is "prolixity", which I've never even heard before. lol

3a) : superfluous repetition : PROLIXITY b : an act or instance of needless repetition

redundantness works for me but I think it would have been redundancy.

oljack666
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 18th, 2005, 7:35pm

Grammar. I always thought she was the one you didn't want to kiss goodbye for fear of brushing the moustache! Joking aside. I tried.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Mar 18th, 2005, 7:43pm

on Mar 10th, 2005, 08:59am, duneguy wrote:
My studies on Native American spiritualisn have been enlightening. Much of mankind has lost the knowledge of our inherent extrasensory capabilities . embarassed

If I can locate my info on all of this, maybe I will post a new thread. smiley


Hey duneguy, I wonder if we have the same books on Native American Spiritualism? I have read quite a few, some as loaners from the library and a few that I have. I also love Native American history. You can find great wisdom in those writings.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 21st, 2005, 3:48pm

These guys were free from conventional, limiting influences. Back to basics for me. Let the mind be free to explore what's inside, before venturing outward for answers. starman.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 21st, 2005, 5:46pm

Part 2;

Unpublished work ©2005 Irwyn Staunton Greif

ET's have come to me in different forms and shapes and other dimensional manifestations. Please peruse a few of my sightings as taken from my book.

I've had several contacts with beings who were either Angels or UFOs. I will recount some of these meetings.

"Are UFOs Angels?

I have had several contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. My dilemma is that sometimes I do not know if the UFO contacts are really Angels. Here are some examples from my book, "The Soul Is A Traveler In Time".

"When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were interested in UFOs. I was interested both in psychic development and UFOs, and they wanted me to go with them to George Hunt Williamson in Arizona because he was contacting UFOs.

I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience. I went to bed one night, but before I went to sleep, I had the conviction that I was going to meet a flying saucer that night and make a contact. I went to sleep, and I had a dream. In this dream I saw myself at a train station that was elevated above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was waiting to meet a flying saucer person, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look unusual. He probably would have an antenna coming out of his head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody abnormal looking.

As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a man walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody weird, and here was this "normal man" walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed him and he said to me, "Mr. Greif I believe you're waiting for me". I looked at him and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical Madison Avenue businessman. When he said I believe you're waiting for me I knew that this was my "contact".

We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene changed. Instead of a modern street, it became a biblical desert. Time was turned back to the time of the Old Testament, and I saw that this desert was a plain that stretched out in front of me. At the end of this plain was a silver river. We walked together side-by-side alongside this river.

As soon as this scene had changed, this figure who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met him, started to grow until he became 6 feet tall and his clothes became the biblical robes of a prophet of the Old Testament. When I was walking next to him, I felt in the presence of a Being who was godlike. I was awed by the magnificent vibrations of this great Being. I felt so humble and so respectful.

The Being talked to me into my right ear, and I remember cocking my head because he was taller than me and I wanted to hear what he was saying. He talked into my ear and I cannot remember the words, but I remember that his voice was like pure liquid silver and his words went through my ear and into my Soul. I was told at that time that I was given teachings that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words when it was right for me to remember, and that these words were impressed deep into my soul.

About 1973, I was giving a lecture in Montreal at a Spiritualist church, and my lecture subject was"UFOs and Angel worlds". The audience were mostly French-Canadians who understood very little English. I was speaking at a high level of inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to myself, why am I speaking on such a high level when most of the audience cannot understand English?

At this time I looked at some of the faces in the audience, and my attention was drawn to two men who were seated in the center row. When I looked at their eyes, I knew that they were not of this world. There was the calmness of Angels in their eyes, and I knew they were UFO beings. I realized that they were raising the frequency of my lecture in order to raise the audience to a higher level.

After the lecture while I was seated in the rear of the church these two men came over to me and they smiled at me. One of these men said,"that was a fine lecture, Mr. Greif,"and the other men said,"you are the first "real"human being that I have met."

Is it possible that the same two Beings who contacted me in Montreal were the same two Beings who contacted biblical characters?"


What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 21st, 2005, 6:04pm

Everything's possible. The work's undone, so why should it cease? You were contacted on a busy street by entities in a UFO. These guys have no boundaries of communication. They can open an individual channel of thought with one amongst thousands. This's what they do frequently. Some of us can't recognise communication for what it is. Your unspoken words will be spoken when the time's right. starman.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 22nd, 2005, 6:19pm

Thank you Starman for your very sympathetic and understanding reply.

To continue; I have also seen higher Dimensional Beings appear to me as colored balls of pure energy, usually with the color blue. I have also seen with my psychic "third eye" a microscopic spark of brilliant white light so brilliant that it turned a white paper black. I "knew" that this microscopic spark of white light was an Angel and I also realized at that time that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel Sparks of white light and each one of them would maintain their own separate identity.
This is some pretty cool stuff!!!! cool

I am very fortunate to live in two Worlds. One World is the physical reality. The other is the psychic and other dimensions reality.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 22nd, 2005, 6:31pm

What is reality? Could you just be seeing the true reality? Afterall, this's not it, here on earth. Reality is self defining. Yet there's unspoken realities that intertwine with this existence. Is this normal. You betcha. starman.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Mar 22nd, 2005, 7:09pm

That's very personal to you timetraveler. Your guide did just that. I feel i've my own guardian angel too. Can't recall too many visualisations myself. I just know this to be true. I've felt on numerous occasions a helping hand through adversity. starman.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by 3PEEO on May 28th, 2005, 6:26pm

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on May 28th, 2005, 8:45pm

3PEEO: Watching your wolf there he looks really tired from walking and needs water. Don't forget to feed him.

User Image Here, give him a beer to help quench his thirst.

oljack


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on May 29th, 2005, 07:35am

I think Mr Toyota must need a break as well grin


Merlin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on May 29th, 2005, 08:29am

on May 29th, 2005, 07:35am, Merlin wrote:
I think Mr Toyota must need a break as well grinMerlin


Yeah, Mr. Toyota's about ready to say; "Got Viagra".

oljack
Iv seen them firsthand after i initiated a contact
Post by earthexpert on Jul 18th, 2005, 11:18am

5 Years ago i initiated a contact and sent a standard SETI signal and maths coordinates after studying a pattern i found that seems to predict alien activity.

It seems logical to assume an advanced civilisation would use mathmatics and equations as a language like english can be described as the worlds language on a large scale.

Let me know if you want to know what i saw - It shall never be forgotten and to tip it off i believe that unofficial contact and negotiations have been made by secret agencies because when the time came to meet them through the greeting i sent a black BMW with the Reg plate KGB-1 turned up outside my house at 01:30am GMT time.

Im close to the truth and im sure that someone else on this planet is to. Please contact me if you are interested.

In answer to your question - their and two types of grays - read below.


SIMPLE - Do you want answers about

Roswell
AREA 51
MIB (First spotted in 1947 coinciding with Roswell)
The russian UFO being held by the KGB that crashed in 1952 most dont know about

Majestic 12 (I have a copy of the US TOP SECRET Booklet that dictates what is to be done in all extra-ter incounters down to medical procedures that must be carried out on them.)

Ive spent 10 years working out their patterns for abduction and appearance - and found it also coincides with powerful natural disasters on the Earth - i can usually predict them.
Did you know their are 2 races in the greys cast - its only the black greys you need to worry about.

For $9.99 i will send you a copy of the majestic 12 document which is 20 pages of 2 level+ top secret intelligence i managed to get a copy of from 1952.

email me - unsignedproducer@yahoo.co.uk

Thank you
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Jeddyhi on Jul 18th, 2005, 5:47pm

Why don't you just share this earth shattering info instead of trying to get people to send you $9.99. Ain't to many people here at ufocasebook thats gonna send you money. At least I don't think!! I know I'm not!! Your charging for the Majic 12 Field manual on UFO and alien recovery and thats available here on this forum for free shocked
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 19th, 2005, 4:15pm

Redskull, I agree with you. I have shared much of my personal experiences from my book with this forum. Would you explain how we can get the Magic 12 Field manual on UFOs from this forum. Thank you for your posting. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Einsteins_Spirit on Jul 19th, 2005, 4:37pm

Hi Timetraveler,
i dont know if this is the one you are looking for I transcribed this.

http://opforsol.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jul 23rd, 2005, 8:18pm

Timetraveler. You mentioned a while ago about helping to interpret my dream. I generally have difficulty remembering my dreams. They usually don't cross over to my conscious mind. It is the ones regarding ufos, in particular the one i had repeatedly over many years, that still are recalled easily. The one with the black craft, big and silent, moving slowly accross the night sky. Dreams are the sub-conscious mind's way of interpreting the conscious mind's understanding of all we perceive to be real. Without this process, we would be stuck in a state of confusement, particulary when dealing with a subject matter outside the socially accepted normality. UFOs are real to all willing to accept their existence. This sounds obvious i know. It explains why some people see them, and some don't. I believe that the very thought that we're not alone, is still unbelievable, and therefore inaccessable, as far as visualisation goes, to many of this planet's inhabitants. It has been a struggle for me to come to terms with the objects i saw. I considered myself a believer before, but still find it difficult to this day to understand it's meaning fully. It's a sometimes overwhelming subject matter, which nonetheless gives me hope for us. The day when it is accepted by the majority, when the thought no longer fills us with fear, but longing to belong. The process will advance to the teachings being spread. The numbers grow daily. Non believers are accepting the possibility. The more the process advances, the more acceptable it will become. The next step is close. It may be worthy to note, that this's not being forced on mankind. The ones willing to listen are being singled out first. The message being passed on through accounts of sightings and contact. Once the grounds of acceptance have been layed, we are then susceptible to the notion of realisation. Contact. It will be nice to chat to you again timetraveler. It's been a while. starman.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 27th, 2005, 3:57pm

Star man, thank you for your communication. It will be very difficult for you to comprehend the massive changeover that this world is undergoing at this time if you use the logic of this world. Your dream means: a large UFO means that this is a gigantic operation. The fact that it is black. Black means the unknown, or the future or that which you cannot understand. That this UFO is moving at night means that this project is done in the darkness of stealth rather than in bright revealment. Try to think like angels, not with the limited mind of a human being.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 27th, 2005, 4:02pm

Einstein, thank you for that great posting of material. We must try to share information without involving the government. This is still a country of freethinkers. Let us not lose that privilege.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Jul 27th, 2005, 4:22pm

So true timetraveler, so true.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by leadbelly on Sep 7th, 2005, 9:48pm

I researched this pretty thoroughly, but the trail for informtion is cold. No matter. In 1987, or so, AMOCO oil company ran the same add in several aviation publications. It raised a seroius response, but no one was able to find out who or what was pictured in the ad.
It was funded by Laurance Rockefeller. There was collaberation by the wife of the former american ambassador to France, as well. Rumors abound about a NASA camera being involved, and other oddities.

Rockefellar supported Dr. John Mack's Center for Psychology and Social Change in Cambridge, Mass., for two years (1993-95), to the tune of $500,000.

He paid for at least two meeting sessions of the Starlight Coalition, a group said to be made up of former intelligence officers and military men interested in UFOs.

I do not know where, but I once found these on the net.
The first is someone's terrible copy. The second is a military officer's attempt to clean up the image...

My take is they are possibly a rework, a touch up of something. Real or not, I can not say. AMOCO's behavior was forever evasive. They said it was a doll...


For the images, right-click each link, to 'save target as', because they are PNG files (Adobe, etc.).

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?s=e647f92acbb066ebace6ba79e9986944&act=Attach&type=post&id=17745


http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?s=e647f92acbb066ebace6ba79e9986944&act=Attach&type=post&id=17748


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by leadbelly on Sep 7th, 2005, 10:20pm

I have another image. I would give it a 50% chance of being people from another world. Not bad!

I sent it to a non-U.S. researcher, to get her opinion.
If she does not respond, I will put it up here.

Leadbelly
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ChaosCarlos on Oct 9th, 2005, 4:46pm

I've been wondering for some time now on the physical aspects of certain kinds of aliens.
Now I've not read this whole thread so I'm not sure if this has been discussed before in previous pages.

I watched a documentary a few years ago about theories on how zero-gravity conditions effect the human body and what would happen if a child was born in those conditions.
Now possibly millenia of space travel in zero-gravity may have had an effect on the physoilogy of certain species of alien, like the Grays.

Also as for their skin colour it may still be the same as it was when they first evolved on their homeworld or maybe the result of an ecological disaster, a change in the power/mass of their sun. We can't possibly know the effects long term exposure (being several thousand years) of these possible reasons may have on the physical body of a living being.

Of course I understand that another possibility for their appearance may be genetic manipulation or maybe even excessive cloning.

If anyone watches a TV show called Stargate SG-1 then you may know of a species in it that resemple the Grays called the Asguard.
The Asguard for well over 30,000 years have been cloning themselves to reach a certain level of immortality. But this cloning process has resulted in hugely problematic medical problems, like massive organ failure and so on. If the Grays we know of are doing the same thing then maybe they've reached a dead-end with their cloning process and are looking for a way to create a new type of body that can last for another few million years and can hold their massive intalect. Perhaps a desperate attempt to preserve their race, or what's left?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 2:58pm

That was alot to take in and very interesting indeed.

Could it be assumed that each time a abductee was taken when the aliens took eggs, and they take the eggs physically by altering the dna in the eggs and insert them back into the abductee and repeat the process until they have altered their goal? I just can't see how the genes of one egg can be altered by or through DNA unless like (evalution and time) DNA changes, or is it not the time but the amount of many times not time?

Deb
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Nocomis on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:07pm

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The altering of DNA as we know it may not be done the same way by ET. They could alter the DNA by other means such as; sonic sound,light or transporting away the segments not wanted or adding.

Radical changes in DNA of a person would raise questions which people would not be ready to answer at this time. (That is because some know what is happening) Small changes over time would bring about the end results WANTED what ever that may be, without people doing deep investigation into why the changes happened.

Then again a slow altering of DNA may be needed to adjust the human body to an enviroment which will be very different then we have now.

Back to the main question "What do Aliens look like?" Everyone seems very focused on the Grays but looking back at history taking that as a guide, I would say they look more like us. Yes, some in other forms but for the most the form always spoken of in the Bible as Angels. Ha..and if bad (ET) then Demons.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:19pm

on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:07pm, Nocomis wrote:
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The altering of DNA as we know it may not be done the same way by ET. They could alter the DNA by other means such as; sonic sound,light or transporting away the segments not wanted or adding.

Radical changes in DNA of a person would raise questions which people would not be ready to answer at this time. (That is because some know what is happening) Small changes over time would bring about the end results WANTED what ever that may be, without people doing deep investigation into why the changes happened.

Then again a slow altering of DNA may be needed to adjust the human body to an enviroment which will be very different then we have now.

Back to the main question "What do Aliens look like?" Everyone seems very focused on the Grays but looking back at history taking that as a guide, I would say they look more like us. Yes, some in other forms but for the most the form always spoken of in the Bible as Angels. Ha..and if bad (ET) then Demons.


apologize back to my question again, do you think that their have been mistakes made through altering DNA? as through experiments, meaning to achieve through thier process to obtain perfection in this case would it not be? By sound and light as some of us know here already can create a altered state in individuals and cause a imbalance and affect our health, and being such as possibly of altering DNA could cause a chemical imbalance, throwing off living cells in the body, I just wonder how long pefection in their ability is aquired?


And back to the subject, though I'v seen a craft, I have wonder what actual ET's look like in appearance, and am sure they can alter into difference shapes and forms.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:22pm

As far as what ETs might look like, my feeling is there are several types, some may look like us, and some may look very different. But I am only guessing........
I agree that if any dna changes are being done, they are more likely to be slow in speed, but progressive in nature.
I don't think the human body would tolerate big changes without some signal that something was wrong or different.
It would be less visible to make smaller changes, but more often as tolerance for the changes and acceptance of them takes place. Does that make sense, I may be stumbling over what I am trying to state.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:28pm

I am assuming their technology is way above ours and messing around with human DNA, they could be able to alter in faster stages, taking away the time. DNA has changed through evolution from what I understand through normal human time, though I could be wrong, as only what I have read and learned. Though we don't know what types of technology they posses and have. My thought is they could possibly speed time, through processing DNA by other means? or other ways. Though with mistakes also, and that is what I'm interested in.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:35pm

What I keep thinking is that if any rapid changes were made to ur systems, we would probably get a signal from our bodies, much as when any foreign substance enters it. Our body attempts to fight or reject. I am only guessing at all of this and am not a doctor or scientist, but I just think if any attempt was made with rapid changes, there would be a red flag calling attention from our own systems.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 4:37pm

What if in some those individuals are already red flagged? through birth defects is what I mean, along with ET history? Would those be the ones to verify genetic code hisotry. Sorry I'v been through the process, is the only reason why asking

When there are no genetic codes available and the DNA has changed in this century, is it man made or is it through ET?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Oct 28th, 2005, 5:05pm

I typed out a long answer for this post, but have deleted it . I think if you want answers you can always try to have your dna tested, however you would likely be asked why you wanted it tested, or might even need a referral. What answers would one give for that question?
And are you willing and ready to have your dna tested if it could be?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 5:10pm

Thats a good answer, and for me DNA was only due to circumstances of both my children being special needs. Though no answers, even scientists with microscopes don't have all the answers. Though its a good question when it comes right down to DNA.

I apologize, welcome questions and answers and Creolady you bring up some good questions and answers
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Oct 28th, 2005, 5:29pm

What on earth are you apologizing for Deb? You did nothing that needed an apology to anyone.
I understood exactly where you were coming from. I too have a special needs son (23 years old now) I had four pregnancies that all involved premature labor and the doctors could only come up with a reason for it in the last pregnancy. They were totally stumped in the first three guessing after all the testing, and having no answers for it. Three of my four children are fine this far. When I asked questions about my other son following neurosurgery, there were only guesses. I know that is very frustrating for all of us parents. We want to try to make everything come out right for our children. I still have no answers.

As far as the Saurians, I am afraid I am not such a believer there, howerver welcome your opinion. It is simply not soemthing I agree with at this point.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 5:34pm

embarassed You'v truly been through the worst, I agree 100% with you. Wince, you have been through alot and remember, I hate the fact of hearing about Aliens playing around with DNA and just shutter, along with knowing we both had ufo experiences. Where do the pieces fall together?

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Oct 28th, 2005, 5:58pm

Time will tell.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 6:12pm

Never worry Irwan, we will hold together, we have this long through our experiences. The knowledge we already contain as seer'ers, abductees and ect...allow us to have a extra sense of certain areas, though I have never myself expanded on this subject you have brought forward and will read further.

First off I need to ask, where your studies came pertaining to a scientific stand, please accept this as a student questionsmiley

Deb
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 6:40pm

Irwn, thank you for sharing, it is hard sometimes to share these experiences, and though mine are slightly different, there are different but similiar experiences, while awake and during sleep. One I myself can share is when my second child was born and at 6 months of age, my husband worked afternoon shift and was usually home by midnight. As I settled down to rest, the baby in crib in the next room, I layed in bed with the hallway light on, as I layed still in bed waiting to hear the cries of the baby stop numbness fell upon me, and suddenly my ankles were grasped and my full body was pulled towards the end of the bed, and ended up with my ankles hanging over the edge of a queen size bed. I was frozen with fear and fully awake from the start, no scream could eminate from my mouth and was frozen for what seemed like eternity. I never witnessed strange lights or glows except invisible hands. That was the only time I ever encountered this type of experience, though through my life there have been many others in difference.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:08pm

Jumping forward one of my latest visions (not travelling/flying) occured where I was knocked down backward, seeing only through my eyes looking
at a man hiding behind a slotted wooden wall, he carried a weapon in his hand from what I viewd, saw he wore glasses and colour of his hair blond, though I got up after the feeling of choking, couldn't breath and the impact on my back hurt alot, as I ran back into a door to gather two girls ready to come out of the entrance of a door, in a way I felt I saved them, but moment going back prior to that moment in my dream there was a seperate vision, two men bringing out a girl from a wooded area, she was not alive as we would consider and limp in thier arms, I saw brush and trees, and couldnt make out if they were wearing hunting gear, pants coats or if they were police. Eitherway, I sent this dream off to a friend first thing in the morning, and two days later Alicia Ross not far from my location considered to be Ontario lets say, her remains were found and her killer was found at a short time later (date) who had dark hair, though the second part of my dream I didn't understand.

2 days prior to the August 2nd Airplane crash at the toronto international airport I was up in Georgian Bay visiting friends and had a reocurring dream for 2 nights of a plane crashing in a wood forest area, got home through a heavy storm in Brampton Ontario, husband turned on the televison and brought me to the television, very excited and said a plane crashed, I told him I knew and it was in a wooded area, shortly afterward the television news showed the plane in a wooded area off the airport run at the toronto airport, thats just the most recent.......filled will many years of dreams, ontop of ufo visual experience. Oh there was a accident I was involved with in May just past, thats another story.

What brings me here to casebooks is because of individuals who have similiar but not exact like experiences like QOH, The Voice, Oljack, Creolady, and more.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Oct 29th, 2005, 11:20am

This is great that we get a peak at some of your work grin I enjoy reading this thread smiley

Deb
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Raelian1 on Nov 1st, 2005, 12:59am

They most resemble the Japanese people but are about four feet tall from what I read. This was revealed in thefree e-book "Intelligent Design: Message from the Designers" on www.rael.org
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Nov 14th, 2005, 6:07pm

Please check out my web page, "Angels,Ufos and Psychic". I have posted 19 postings of some very good stuff. thank you, Irwyn

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by redplanet on Dec 21st, 2005, 12:59am

i found this picture from the internet, what you think itis?
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by blueyes on Dec 21st, 2005, 10:29am

I remember seeing this some time back. Pretty interesting piece. I'd like to think its real but part of me wonders. What do you think?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 5:08pm

We are really getting some emotional answers here. I'm glad we are stirring up some controversy. Complacency is the death of freethinking. Most of my life I have been searching for people like myself who do not accept this world or its limitations. I am a dreamer and my dream is that this world could be a better place and that science and medicine and philosophy should be more advanced then they are now.
At this point in our evolution we should be immune to sickness, using a different type of energy system for our space vehicle for space exploration. We should be using the free energy that exists throughout the universe. We should be utilizing and accessing the other 95 percent of our brains.

I am very disappointed in our progress. I believe we have to make a quantum leap in intelligence and consciousness-raising to survive.

It seems that the only progress that has been made on this planet is bigger and better weapons for war. Imagine what would happen if we spent the money that we use for war on medical research and sociological improvements. Think about it, Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 5:11pm

Our civilization has the opportunity to raise itself to a higher level. This will be an individual's matter of choice. When the time comes if you wish to stay here and hold on to this physical existence, that is your choice. If you trust the Angel UFOs and wish to escape the "wheel" of physical karma and to exist in a different dimensional World, that is your choice.

The Soul survives no matter what. I have experienced reincarnation memories of existing in other dimensional Worlds, so I am not afraid. Do not be afraid. Your Guardian Angels will direct you. You are not alone!!!!!!

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 5:29pm

If we wanted to send space explorers to other planets or other solar systems or even other dimensions we would construct artificial beings similar to the greys. They are the perfect choice because they do not eat, drink, or perform any biological functions. Therefore they require very little maintenance. They are programmed to perform certain tasks and they are capable of thinking and reacting to a certain extent. Also they are dedicated to their function. I would prefer to describe them as artificial intelligence technicians.

I believe that you are correct in your assumption that they are primarily involved in genetics. The human genetics are obsolete and like a computer hard drive have become corrupted. Therefore the genetics have to be altered. I believe that we are witnessing a melding of two different genetic codings that combine emotions and sensitivities of the human being and the mental abilities, consciousness and psychic abilities of an advanced civilization. I believe that this is an alternative to the destruction and elimination of the human race. The awesome powers that the greys demonstrate that seems to come from their eyes I believe is part of the genetics package that we will inherit. Goodbye to anthropoidal man! Hello to Superman! Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 5:37pm

I do not believe that UFOs selected you or other abductees at random or by coincidence. This was proven to me in the Barney Hill abduction. Barney Hill was directed to travel on that certain road by the mind control of the UFOs. My feeling is that UFOs select abductees that they know from an earlier time, or perhaps from an earlier life. They seem to be researching or documenting persons from the same family with the same DNA. I suspect that they are doing genetic and DNA engineering as part of a long-term biological project.

It is my belief that when you have been abducted the UFOs have created a two-way symbionic circuit and that you can question them and see them on this communications line.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 5:49pm

I have been asked if I have any scientific background. The answer is no. Do you think that the scientists of today can explain or comprehend the advanced technology of the UFOs? The military have fired their most advanced "Star Wars" missiles at the UFOs only to have them adroitly sidestep them. This was shown on a television program and I recorded it.

We need to stop comparing the UFOs to our limited intelligence and pathetic technology. We have to raise our minds into a new higher dimension of understanding.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2005, 6:14pm

I learned from experience of dealing with UFOs that they never do random or capricious acts. They're also capable of performing a multitude of meanings and purposes in any act that they perform. The Niagara power grid blackout is a prime example.
Yes, they drained the power to create the blackout but they were also interested in observing the reaction of millions of people in a crisis of this magnitude. Don't forget, they are researchers and experimenters. This was also a demonstration of how they could create a major catastrophe and still protect the safety of the millions of people involved. Not one person died or was seriously injured as a result of this massive power blackout. This was a major project. If you are responsible for the human race and have to intervene from time to time in their evolution and history, then it behooves you to study your subjects.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by JohnnyAnonymous on Dec 22nd, 2005, 05:06am

I tend to lean towards that line of thinking too. i equate the same as a zoologist capturing an animal testing/tagging it and releasing it (sometimes not in the same area) and observe their behavior.

For as humane as humans claim to be, we do some rather bizarre testing and research. So it does not surprise me when I hear about the same being done to us as we are probably on the lower intelligence level of the galactic totem-pole.

Always enjoy your post TT
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Merlin on Dec 22nd, 2005, 4:46pm

yeah i too have to agree with you there we tag whales dolphins and the such like so why not Aliens doing the same to us.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by redplanet on Jan 4th, 2006, 02:07am

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by alieniam on Jan 6th, 2006, 08:23am

on Dec 21st, 2005, 6:14pm, timetraveler wrote:
I learned from experience of dealing with UFOs that they never do random or capricious acts. They're also capable of performing a multitude of meanings and purposes in any act that they perform. The Niagara power grid blackout is a prime example.


Could you please enlighten me about what Niagara blackout you talk?. Is it a recent blackout in Canada and North America - 2003 if I recall correctly?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Jan 6th, 2006, 7:43pm

I don't want to sound like I'm coming to the alien's defense, but - the following is a summary from a science article my daughter wrote for a Science grade, which she researched very well. As well, I read the many articles in their entirety that she worked from and what you will read below is absolutely true.

The blackout in 2003, made many residents angry but on the other hand, Lackson Marufu was inspired. Over 100 power plants along the Ohio River Valley were involved. Marufu immediately began testing air quality down wind of the power plants to get good samples of air quality with over 100 power plants shut down due to the blackout. His samples showed that coal-burning power plants made a bigger than expected share of the chemical cocktail. About 24 hours into the blackout, sulfur dioxide levels dropped 90 percent and ozone declined by 50%.

Consequently, if the aliens were doing anything at all, they were showing us where most of our health problems stem from. Don't you think that sounds just like much of what the aliens' do Timetraveler? Many times, they make everything look like something it's not in order for us to open our eyes and I'm sure you'll agree.

The more convincing thing was that only one single individual (Lackson Marufu) and his collegues thought to do that and not hundreds of scientists who didn't think about such an opportunity with all the power grids down. Could have been a good bit of 'synchronicity' for that matter.

Of course, being the wasteful capitalist pigs we are, nothing came of his discovery except for big pats on the back for them. That power represents $$ and conveniences that us Americans can't seem to do without.

On either National Geographic or Discovery channel, there was a one or two hour bit they did on it over the past few months. They actually have answers now. Of course how it originally got started is the mystery. They know that it all started with one power plant (one individual) who transferred power incorrectly that caused a snowball affect from overloads. Somebody could have worked that one individual. We both know that of course.

There is a lot on Mr. Marufu on the Internet but mostly PDF and multitudes of pages. I found this one small site that commented though.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/505486/

And, below is the address that explains the probable cause. Also PDF but more government muckity muck is about all.


http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/hepg/Papers/NYISO.blackout.report.8.Jan.04.pdf



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by alieniam on Jan 7th, 2006, 05:37am

Thank you for reply, very interesting info indeed.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by magnetar on Jan 16th, 2006, 05:42am

I would say that our planet has occupied an interesting place, within a larger sphere of events, over a long time. Beginning about 10 million years ago, and for about 8 million years, numerous supernovae of once existant stars cleared a place for us to evolve away from future disruptions. They were well over 100 million light years away, and several times safe distance.

Nonetheless, they did shower the Earth will cosmic rays, which upset the balance of aquatic life, and possibly some more. At least, some evidence points in that direction. There were holes blown in the ozone layer, an UV light had deleterious effects on plankton.

Mutations may or may not have happened. I tend to think random variation, and safe mutations by viruses are what is most stable. And lots of time. We had 5 million years since Lucy. And, a quarter million years to dream up language, music, poetry, numbers, super computers, and the human gene sequence.

I would say that if I was brilliant at figuring out the seemingly insurmountable, to become as light, even as light to light, and I came to planet Earth, I would prevail upon it for something in return. Simply because, to become acquainted is to risk accepting large responsibilities. Better to collect a few rocks, take some pictures of humans to prove they actually do exist, and even bring one home, or perform various examinations.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DarkLord on Jun 20th, 2006, 01:49am

Well since I am constantly in contact with the extraterrestrials. I'll go and tell you everything about them that is available to me.

First I would like to talk about the physical descriptions of the extraterrestrial, first with the Annunaki.

The Annunaki, also known as angels, the watchers, Jedi, giants, Ice Giants, Nordics, Atlantians, Andromedians, and many other things are actually called Felazor-rhajorkiadaidzck . Pronounced, Fel-az-or-rhah-djock-kiad-deh-edz-ck. Which is actually a scientific term of their people involving genus and species. Felazor is their word for man. And rhajorkiadiadzck means those that through space. Since humans would have a near impossible time pronouncing this name, they prefer being called Felazorians or anything at all that comes to mind, except for anything insulting their great species.

The Annunaki look like this:

http://hometown.aol.com/mddunbar1/images/image03%5B1%5D.jpg

They are very tall roughly between 7 to 9 feet tall.

They look like a cross between a zeta and a human, except they are not a cross between a zeta and a human.

They have grey skins, from a white as snow to as dark as black. Their skin can also look olive like, but it's actually still a grey, not a shade of brown.

They can change their skins at will, making them appear to shapeshift, but they don't actually shapeshift. They skinshift. They do this to fit in with the human population and to learn more about us.

They have large eliptical eyes, just like the Zeta, except you can see the iris in their eyes. The coloring of their iris can go from yellow to red to violet to blue. Green is extremely rare and probably a non-existent coloring of eyes to their species.

Their hair has a texture that makes it seem almost fabricated, but it's real hair. And it's coloring can varied from most our own, except black and brown, and to many wild and coloring colors that aren't normal in human terms like blue, green, pink, purple, violet, silver, teal, and the such.

But even though they can have yellow, orange, and red hair. The texture and the coloring of their is way to colorful in comparison to a typical human.

Unlike the popular opinion, these beings are mammals. As I have said they have hair, but in addition to that they can't stand warm environments, they give live birth, and their females develope protuberant glands, situated on the front of the chest or thorax, in which white nuitritional fluid is secreted for the nourishment of the young.

However, unlike Earth mammals, the Annunaki females are the only ones that develope these glands and do so at a much younger age relative age than humans generally do. They also start producing milk even without being pregnated as they start developing these glands. By the way almost all female extraterrestrial mammals are like this. And as they say they made us in "their" image, so they don't look so much unlike us as those idiots keep identifying them as.

The Annunaki originated in another Galaxy, Andromeda and are the most or one of the most advance races in this portion of the universe.

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And now about the Zetas.

The Zetas are artificially created biological creatures which serve as a servant race to the Annunaki and various other races throughout this and many other galaxies. The Zetas were first developed in the Zeta system and as a result they identify themselves as natives from that system. Even though there are artificially created.

Zetas are normally pretty small between 3 and 4 feet. But they can grow as tall as 5 to 6 feet. There are no Zeta taller than that. All accounts of meeting a "grey" taller than six feet is an illusional experience with an Annunaki, which are in fact taller than 6 feet. What I mean by that is that the abductees met an Annunaki and due to the illusion that they were in at the time, they mistooken them as taller versions of the same being. But the truth of the matter is that the Annunaki look nothing like the greys in terms of physical features and the such. The Annunaki wear clothing, normally robes, while the Zetas might not wear anything at all.

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/LONGNECK.jpg

Good example of what a typical Zeta looks like.

Their face is very much similar to an Annunaki, except for the black eyes and the lack of ears, hair, and a developed nose. In addition the Zetas are much skinnier than the Godly figured Annunaki. You could say that the Zetas are simply just modified clones of the Annunaki. I don't know if this is true or not, because I haven't been allowed to be told about anything concerning that.

As far as I can tell the Zetas are Amphibianoids, biological androids need I remind you. They can breath and digest through their skin. Although they can also breath through their nose as well, but prefer to do so through their skin.

The Zetas are very intelligent, but not as intelligent as the Annunaki. The Zetas even though a servent race are not mistreated and cannot be physically harmed by another race without documenting a proper reason to such that the Annunaki will accept. So if a Draconian should kill a Zeta in cold blood and not certify a reason why. That Draconian will be hunted down by Annunaki Bounty Hunters.


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The Draconian Race.

This race obscuredly seen in the Doctor Who TV show, actually does exist in our universe and in our Galaxy.

The Draconian race is bit more taller than the Annunaki, by a foot or two on average. They are a proud and glorious race of warriors, much like the Kleongs. But they are also a very poetic race. In fact humans learned poetry from the Draconians.

Even though these beings are called Draconians it is not what they refer to themselves by. They call themselves the Kreuzorsht Kamatasmerodch-choln. But you can simply call them the Kreuzorians. But like the super-humble Annunaki you can refer to them as what you like that doesn't offend them.

The Draconians and the Annunaki have been allies for countless Earth years. Or to say for thousands of years. Of course they have had their deal of conflicts during that time, but not as much as humans generally have with each other.

http://jamesarthur.net/img/cntnt/anunnaki2.jpg

I believe that is what a typical Draconian looks like.

They are birds, not reptiles. They actually do have feathers but also reptile like features, but they are warm-blooded.
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But there are other races out there... more than a hundred or so.

Majority of them could easily associate with birds, amphibians, humans, cat like creatures, dog like creatures, primate like creatures, and insect like creatures.

By the way they normally use the same language which is sort of similar to a combination of Japanese, German, Russian, Greek, and French dialect comprise into one, except they make certain sounds which cannot be produced by a human voice that is also part of their structure of oral language.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2006, 3:33pm

Thank you "atrueoriginall" for your open-mindedness and intelligent postings. We have to respect the level of intelligence of the ETs. We cannot compare them to our anthropoidal race. The fact that they have continuously tried to teach us with illustrations such as the Nazca drawings and the "crop circles" geometrics indicates to me that they have an interest as well as a concern for the human race. Why do they bother to come here and involve themselves with us? Don't they have anything better to do in their own worlds? Unless, they are interested in us because they were involved in the creation of us and they are responsible for us.

Is that why they are abducting human beings in order to create a future hybrid race to replace the animalistic present-day human race? Are we a failed experiment?
Or have we gone as far as we can with the genetic coding that was implanted in us in our "human race" design? Are we ready for our next "generation" hybrid race as the combination of human emotions and ET intelligence? I believe that this is the only answer that makes sense.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2006, 4:45pm

As I have maintained for a long time, structured religions are man-made and represent a grave danger to the human race. The original Bibles were received by inspiration and were coded. Very few people on this planet can decipher the coding. It is true that there will be an angelic audit soon wherein Jehovah will have to answer to the "Angels of Light". If you cannot shed yourself of your physical attachments and religious teachings then that will be a factor in determing where you will be sent in the upcoming fourth exodus of the human race. Your individual soul will sit in judgment upon itself.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Jun 21st, 2006, 01:31am

on Jun 20th, 2006, 4:45pm, timetraveler wrote:
As I have maintained for a long time, structured religions are man-made and represent a grave danger to the human race.
What do you think? Irwyn cool


I tend to think that they had a hand in the beginnings of mythology, which I believe was a precursor to religion anyway. After that, they carried the ball forward.

Mythology's timeframe has just too many incidents of alien intervention.

I've said this many times in here but what would this world be like without religion, no matter who started it up. There would be no fear of a God by the masses. If you take just that out of our big picture, man would have become very evil since he had nothing to fear and take for himself whatever he wanted.

Consequently, we wouldn't have grown as we have. There's much in this head of mine on the subject but it's so much that I couldn't even begin typing it all.

I'll say one thing though, there is a light that is discovered while dwelling in religious literature. It really exists and I know this for certain because I experience it as do others. So it does have a greater purpose.

I don't think it really matters who did what. But, what I do know is that there is a lot of depth in religious literature. So much so that it appears to be prepared by a more intelligent being then man.

When you consider synchronicity with prophets and such, I just sense ET all over the place.



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DarkLord on Jun 21st, 2006, 02:27am

on Jun 20th, 2006, 4:45pm, timetraveler wrote:
As I have maintained for a long time, structured religions are man-made and represent a grave danger to the human race. The original Bibles were received by inspiration and were coded. Very few people on this planet can decipher the coding. It is true that there will be an angelic audit soon wherein Jehovah will have to answer to the "Angels of Light". If you cannot shed yourself of your religious teachings then that will be a factor in determing where you will be sent in the upcoming fourth exodus of the human race. The individual soul will sit in judgment upon itself.

What do you think? Irwyn cool


The angels in the Bible are the Annunaki/Atlantians.

Wings is a common symbol that is given to them representing their ability to flight, that's what it originally meant. It later became a symbol representing their purity. And thus the dove became a symbol of purity.

Our souls don't sit in judgement, well I guess some do. But Judgement day is a day very much less spiritual and more physical.

I have mental records of what it is like when you die. So I'll speak out what they confirm.

When you die, you body is transcended into a vortex. But you have a choice of entering this vortex. If you don't enter, you become a ghost and you can choose to become a Guardian Angel or to become a pain in the neck to the living.

When you enter this vortex you arrive in what is called, "The realm of shadows."

In the realm of shadows you are surrounded by other lost souls and before you is a what appears to be river or body of water, which is known as the River of Styx. But this isn't an actual river. It's actually a current of energy within the bounds of reality outside of our four dimensions which pulls you to your destination. It also cleans you of the effects your mortality has had upon you before death.

When you enter the river you are transported to a destination of your own choosing. So you can choose to go to a hell or a heaven of what you think is hell or heaven. And there your visitation and stay is depended upon what you have done in life in reflection of how treated other beings.

So the more hurtful you are, the more pain and suffering you'll experience in the afterlife realm. But the more pleasant you are, the less pain and suffering you'll experience.

There are a countless number of afterlife realms that were crafted simply by our own imagination. As these realms do comprise of the decease from other planets and universes and dimensions that happen to have the same belief concerning the location of their demise.

Yes strange, but true. If you believe you are going to a watermelon patch when you die, you'll go to a watermelon patch. If you believe you'll go to a giant cloud above a cup of chocolate, you'll go to a giant cloud above a cup of chocolate.

And this place can be either heaven or hell to you, depending on what you've done and how you treat people in this realm.

But anyways these realms aren't permanent residences. Although you can become a premanent resident, if you decide to work there.

Eventually you'll have to leave if you don't decide to work there and reincarnate. So our existence is very much a cycle. We die, go to an afterlife plane, leave, reborn, die and so on.

But it's alright, because atleast you don't have to live in the exact same kind of reality forever. It's like playing a video game, if you play more than one, you won't get bored so easily as you would if just played one.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Star on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:53am

With all due respect, Dark Lord, I disagree with a lot of your last reply. I believe it's just as Sylvia Browne outlines in her books..........angels are a separate phylum all to themselves.....and a human being can never become an angel. Have you ever read any of her books? Read TO THE OTHER SIDE AND BACK or LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ashiana24 on Jun 21st, 2006, 12:11pm

on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:53am, Star wrote:
[b]With all due respect, Dark Lord, I disagree with a lot of your last reply. I believe it's just as Sylvia Browne outlines in her books..........angels are a separate phylum all to themselves.....and a human being can never become an angel. Have you ever read any of her books? Read TO THE OTHER SIDE AND BACK or LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.


I very much agree with your post, Star. smiley I have read some of Sylvia's very interesting books, including her "Angels" book, and that's what I've understood is that angels have never known a human existence here on Earth. Although family members (including pets) can come to warn us or help us, they are not classified as Angels.

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

~ Ashiana

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DarkLord on Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:29am

on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:53am, Star wrote:
With all due respect, Dark Lord, I disagree with a lot of your last reply. I believe it's just as Sylvia Browne outlines in her books..........angels are a separate phylum all to themselves.....


Are human imperfect, isn't Sylvia Brown a human? Then wouldn't she therefore be imperfect. I think what Sylvia Brown wants if for you to be in touch with the same psychological and spiritual existence she herself experiences and acknowledges.

Anyways like the existence of god, it varies in degrees.

Not everything of every kind can be defined by just one existence.

The angels are either extraterrestrials (those that come from the heavens to the Earth) or the loving and caring decease.

But whether you like it or not. And say this with everyone encounter, including extraterrestrials. Reicarnation exists and it is a part of our own existence.

on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:53am, Star wrote:

and a human being can never become an angel.


You are right a living mortal can never become an angel, because after all he or she is mortal.

But when you die, you are not regarded by what race or species you once were. As you can clearly dictate what form you are in. So with that said, the real us are not humans, but the spirits that recide in Earthly bodies recognized by ourselves as humans.


on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:53am, Star wrote:

Have you ever read any of her books? Read TO THE OTHER SIDE AND BACK or LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.


Yes she commented that the Annunaki don't like fish or vegetation. And this is true, because they eat mushrooms. Even though mushrooms are vegetation, they aren't plants.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:23am

ive been reading your so called gain knowledge from whomever youre getting it from . Ive sat very quietly while you pour post after post with your "beliefs" and posting them as "facts". Thing is you probably are getting something channeled into you, but what and where it comes from isnt proven, and what is so sad is youve taken it all in.
You even say in one post that "they" think humans are stupid". God Almighty child. doesnt that speak something to you? You write:
Quote:
Are human imperfect, isn't Sylvia Brown a human? Then wouldn't she therefore be imperfect. I think what Sylvia Brown wants if for you to be in touch with the same psychological and spiritual existence she herself experiences and acknowledges.


arent YOU doing the same thing? hon ive been on the net discussing beings for over 10 yrs now. There is nothing new in the description of the many "aliens" that anyone cant put together from the net in an hours top time. YOU are wanting others to be in touch with the same psychological and spiritual existense you yourself experience and acknowledges.

RE EDITED: to take out some much uneeded sarcasm. darklord, i really feel sorry for you hon, because you do believe what you are being fed. your choice of nickname, says it all. all i can say is you seem intelligent , and i pray that you can see thru, and past what theyre feeding you, before its too late.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Star on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am

I agree, DarkLord, humans are not perfect. You are human, too, and there's no reason for me to believe what you experience is true, if I shouldn't believe what Sylvia says. If I haven't experienced the Annunaki, so how do I know that's true? It may be true for you personally, but not for another. So if Sylvia is imperfect in what she says she has experienced, then all of us are imperfect in what we say we experience. That's logical to me.... and therefore, how can any of us say what we experience is the truth for anyone but ourselves? Reading your posts, it sounds as if you are speaking truth and everyone should believe it. Is there an ultimate truth? We are all truthseekers here. I'm trying to understand the things I'm reading, DarkLord. But there doesn't seem to be a truth that applies to everyone, according to what you are saying (or how I am understanding what you are saying). undecided
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:05pm

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:
I agree, DarkLord, humans are not perfect. You are human, too, and there's no reason for me to believe what you experience is true, if I shouldn't believe what Sylvia says. If I haven't experienced the Annunaki, so how do I know that's true? It may be true for you personally, but not for another. So if Sylvia is imperfect in what she says she has experienced, then all of us are imperfect in what we say we experience. That's logical to me.... and therefore, how can any of us say what we experience is the truth for anyone but ourselves? Reading your posts, it sounds as if you are speaking truth and everyone should believe it. Is there an ultimate truth? We are all truthseekers here. I'm trying to understand the things I'm reading, DarkLord. But there doesn't seem to be a truth that applies to everyone, according to what you are saying (or how I am understanding what you are saying). undecided


This is true and it comes from a conviction that one might have due to their own personal experiences, but DarkLord, you really should tune it down to a possibility that such things are true, because they are only true for you.

I've got as many experiences then anyone would ever wish to have in respect to aliens. I keep my experiences to something a little more then possibilities for others and reduce my conviction, even though I personlly have great conviction concerning my experiences.

If you try to hard to convince anyone of what it is you believe, it will only cause arguments. We avoid such things like a plague. They are unproductive and we are all believers in something around here. There is not a single skeptic who is a regular in this forum. Excluding maybe 2 regulars, everyone else in here is either an abductee, MILAB abductee, contactee or has witnessed a UFO. We've all been down our own roads.





Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 22nd, 2006, 7:38pm

I will tell you why we are here talking on the forum about aliens the way we do it, it's purely because of 6,5 milliards of human beings, who refuse to talk about it at all. Our human society didn't officialy recognized alliens, didn't agree to use its best technical equipment for research, suffers from extreme patriotism about anybody, and wants to avoid possible contact with them so this society is not against, but prevents questions ever being answered.
That is why our problems appear without solutions.
Those beautiful loving humans around panick on the thought that they would get to same trouble,
they won't touch your aliens , because they could just get another flue. Moreover to them aliens are mostly strange and ugly.
I am sure they are quite OK to themselves, those people and those aliens.
So if you ever caught an alien flue, please get some more aspirin, because you are responsible for your friends.

smiley E.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DarkLord on Jun 23rd, 2006, 02:44am

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:


You are very much right and I don't want you or anyone to believe what I say or to simply agree with what I say. I want you to consider what I say. I'm not in any means an information dictator. I'm an information contributor. If I was an information dictator, I would be specifying that my way of thinking is absolute. But I don't. And I shouldn't, because it would be wrong to say any human could have complete insight greater than any other human in any form of understanding and comprehensions. Of course there are certain things some of us are better at than others. But your oracle, would perfer if you can study the same material on your own. As most psychics of her level would perfer if the rest of humanity too was as psychic.

I can tell you it's very hard to have any peace, when thousands of people constantly bothering you for needless information that they desire to know about and you don't.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:



Well you do regard what Sylvia Brown says and she acknowledges their existence. She even went a restaurant with one and tried to tell him what a brush and what a fish is.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:



Again I am not trying to dictate information. I am just contributing what I know. I'm not giving you an ultimatum or a death warrant in which you have to agree with what I say or suffer.

I am saying to consider what I say as a possible reference. And perhaps doing the very thing I have been asking humans to do for thousands of years. Bridge a telepathic connection with an Annunaki and learn the truth for yourself.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:


Not in terms of experience, in terms of acknowledgement of our experiences.

But you see I'm asking for you to... get the actual perfect as can be truth. By talking telepathically with the all knowwing ones, the Annunaki or Angels or Atlantians or Andromedians or Jedi or Frost Giants or whatever it is you want to refer to them by.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:


That's what I keep saying, find the truth of your own from and by yourselves. This is why I promote investigation, instead of reading crap in books. Because I want people to go out and find the truth of whatever they are searching for on their own.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:


I'm speaking the truth of what I know. I don't think anyone should automatically believe in what I say. Because there is no way anyone can truely believe in something just by me talking about it. You have to give people time so they can analyze the information themselves. And that's what I actually promote, regardless of what you think about me. I promote individuality.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:



Yeah there is an ultimate truth... ask the Annunaki for yourself and you will know the truth. Except for the very few things things they will not talk about. And those very few things are pointless bit of information that no one wants to be in a discussion about.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:



Great that's the kind of people that I belong to.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:

/b]


My understanding of logic is possibly a bit above that of a typical human being. Since I can understand string theory and the whole eleven dimensions of space that hardly anyone can understand. But that's just an example of the high level of thought I can comprehend. I'm also an advance psychic and can nearly perform telekinesis. Which I believe saying could very well discredit some of my knowledge to some of the people here.

What I am saying is that there is a possibility that my words can be difficult to understand on a large enough scale. And if you have any questions about such then it would be wise to bring them to my attention.

"For any problem can be answered by a single question. " - Annunaki Saying

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:37am, Star wrote:
[b]


Of course there doesn't seem to be a truth that applies to everyone, because I'm not trying to create a dictation of truth. I'm just trying to contribute.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:05pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:



Excuse me for being so blunt and careless. But allow me to show you exactly where I said this was in no means the absolute truth.

Quote:
So I'll speak out what they confirm.


Did I say... "So I'll speak what they completely confirm that is 100% truth."

I'm sorry but I'm not trying to kill anyone's knowledge about anything, except for those that think the Annunaki are cold blooded evil beings that are bent on enslaving humanity "again." But that's only because it's racial slander that for which I cannot accept. Because I hate every single form of racism.

I believe there is something called, "Freedom of Speech."

If I announce just an opinion or something it wouldn't be wise to criticize it without atleast making an attempt to locate the source, analyze such, and then criticize what I say. As I do the same for you. You can freely choose to select certain features from what I say and use it as your own knowledge or completely ignore and discredit what I say. But seriously if you could atleast make an attempt in creating a psionic bridge with an Annunaki, you would be seeing reality very much similar to myself, although I doubt in any means identical to myself.

But of course we could still be wrong, but it's better to have atleast tried to talk to these beings that are so willingly wanting to communicate with us and share with us their knowledge as we ask for such from them.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 7:38pm, Mewtwo wrote:
I will tell you why we are here talking on the forum about aliens the way we do it, it's purely because of 6,5 milliards of human beings, who refuse to talk about it at all.


Mewtwo is one of the very few people here I think I can actually speak to openly without the fear of ridicule.

Because I agree with what this person says.

As humans it is in our nature to contradict what others say, we possess to much of every single sin. But it's only wrath and greed that the extraterrestrials fear and despise from us.

But Pride and Envy contribute to the constant ridicule upon the existence of extraterrestrials.

People are either envious that they themselves as being "professionals" aren't able to witness a UFO sighting or an encounter with an extraterrestrial. Or these people are prideful with their own intellect and knowledge, up to a degree in which they will not acknowledge what other people say and know.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 7:38pm, Mewtwo wrote:
Our human society didn't officialy recognized alliens, didn't agree to use its best technical equipment for research, suffers from extreme patriotism about anybody, and wants to avoid possible contact with them so this society is not against, but prevents questions ever being answered.


Well that has to do with people that run the government not wanting to lose the power that they have. People are always afraid of losing power.

But atleast Mexico acknowledges the existence of extraterrestrials.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 7:38pm, Mewtwo wrote:
That is why our problems appear without solutions.
Those beautiful loving humans around panick on the thought that they would get to same trouble,
they won't touch your alien , because they could just get another flue. Moreover to them aliens are mostly strange and ugly.


Yeah isn't it funny that beings that have been cultivated in our ancient societies as Goddesses and Gods, especially that pertaining to beauty and wisdom. Would become outcasts in today's societies?

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 7:38pm, Mewtwo wrote:
I am sure they are quite OK to themselves, those people and those aliens.
So if you ever caught an alien flue, please get some more aspirin, because you are responsible for your friends.

smiley E.


If it's an alien flue, you might as well dial 911-EXTERRESTRIAL. Because no human can cure you of an alien version of a viral condition.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am

I think there is a great difference whether you deal with physical entities or psychic entities, because you can't catch flue from the screen projection-like angel being.
I find people often mixing two sorts of experiences together, resp. most people never encountered E.T. beings physicaly, but have had various encounters with E.T. mental projections. Gray aliens, for example, have the best and up-to-date technology, which can cause apparition of angels, deities, ufo crafts , anything of use on the sky or in the mind of groups or individuals.
For them the population controll seems very easy, because it's enough, if they make you look at Virgin Mary next night, and you won't go to office, but be praying at home.
They are responsible for those great light figures of human like aliens coming to save you , those blond and blue eyed figures of heros and heroins, gods and godessses of east and west, they are responsible.
Because they know our reaction to them and don't want us to panick. They feel hurt by our behaviour through the ages. They have tried for communication million times without success.
All what you will do on sensing the creature is, that you try to escape. They are less offensive than your kitten,
but if they want to tell you something by chance, they have to catch you, hold you tight on the bed and use tranquillizer otherwise you'd kick them.
So they are here but seldom openly interact with human society, they test our ability to react to them, provide us with clues how to solve our difficulties by ourselves, which we don't listen anyway.
They even started to crossbreed the races with not much results, because we are acceptable for them but they are not acceptable for us.
They are not as dangerous as the most advanced alien races coming here from afar and teaching people how to be like them in the better case, in the worse case they just sense a group of empty minded barbariens chasing a ball in the middle of a thousands simillar empty barbarians, and they don't have single thought to help us. All they care is themselves. More advanced they appear to us, more selfishness is the rule.
To them we can become anything from food to slaves or vehicles for their intentions, and watch the big queue in front of their ship, if they come. And they'd be beautiful, because they can change body form at will, and you'd never ever remember what happened to you.
Those gray beings around, they are protecting us by the way, even if we don't like it. They would cooperate with our scientists and else, but there is no single clue how to issue clear communication method without degrading either side.
They are mentally very different than ordinary human being. They would die of our infections quite soon.
They have different social system , hygienic rules etc. and can't afford to let us polute their living quarters.
Human beings in generall have noble origins of their own, but behave like children, and it is not their fault, perhaps.

wink E.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DarkLord on Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:32am

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
I think there is a great difference whether you deal with physical entities or psychic entities, because you can't catch flue from the screen projection-like angel being. I find people often mixing two sorts of experiences together, resp. most people never encountered E.T. beings physicaly, but have had various encounters with E.T. mental projections.


Well the thing is that most abductions and encounters are not actual abductions and encounters. Or if they are, they are interpreted differently than what had actually occured.
But I don't know maybe it's hard for me to believe aliens would be evil like as they or shown in most alien abduction stories. But then again I'm only going on by my own experiences and such.

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
Gray aliens, for example, have the best and up-to-date technology, which can cause apparition of angels, deities, ufo crafts , anything of use on the sky or in the mind of groups or individuals.


I don't think the psychic ability of image projection comes from technology. Perhaps they can inhance such an ability through technology. But... I do agree that some encounters are just distorted imagery or imagery that is portrayed from within the mind or from within someone else's mind.

I mean how is it that one find reality in this world, when they cannot define what reality is?

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
For them the population controll seems very easy, because it's enough, if they make you look at Virgin Mary next night, and you won't go to office, but be praying at home.


That's very likely to occur, especially to those that can't see through an illusion. I somehow developed a knack of seeing past disquises and this comes from my own mental training. Having poor vision + having enough time to analyze things as they could portray and as they actually do portray. But thing again, who am I to say that I might still be encountering illusions? We could all very well, even the extraterrestrials, be in a Matrix.


on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
They are responsible for those great light figures of human like aliens coming to save you, those blond and blue eyed figures of heros and heroins, gods and godessses of east and west, they are responsible.


Yeah the extraterrestrials are responsible. But umm... the Greys depicted from abduction are not the same greys as the ones you are talking about. Those greys are much more human like and as the bible says, created US in THEIR image. They even created our sense of sexuality, the kind of traits we would want to have in a mate. Which are after all reflections of their own traits.

I am still suspecting you might be one of them though, because you sound like one of them.


on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
Because they know our reaction to them and don't want us to panick. They feel hurt by our behaviour through the ages. They have tried for communication million times without success.


I really don't want to sound rude. But is there any way that you could possibly be an extraterrestrial? Perhaps one of the Annunaki?

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
All what you will do on sensing the creature is, that you try to escape. They are less offensive than your kitten,
but if they want to tell you something by chance, they have to catch you, hold you tight on the bed and use tranquillizer otherwise you'd kick them.


Humans are very violent creatures. They have no choice but to try and control us to prevent us from hurting ourselves. I was told this by an Annunaki in person. I still find it so strange to hear it from someone on the internet.

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
So they are here but seldom openly interact with human society, they test our ability to react to them, provide us with clues how to solve our difficulties by ourselves, which we don't listen anyway.


That's why I keep telling people that if the aliens are crashlanding on our backyards they are doing so to study how we would react to their technology.

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
They even started to crossbreed the races with not much results, because we are acceptable for them but they are not acceptable for us.


Yeshua, a crossbred between a Dravidian Cochinite Jew and an Annunaki, becomes executed base on a few account of his being. That he is the child of a virgin and that he shares ideology different from that of everyone else.

http://www.tombofjesus.com/Buddhism.htm
http://www.viewzone.com/matlock.html
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Map_India_jews_communities.jpg

The Cochin Jewish settlement was established roughly 500 years before christ and became highly populated with Dravidians very close to Yeshua's birth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_Jews
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/Cochin_Jews.jpg

By the way here is something that ties in Christianity to Sumerian faith.

http://www.routledge.com/textbooks/0415236614/resources/maps/map3.jpg


on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
They are not as dangerous as the most advanced alien races coming here from afar and teaching people how to be like them in the better case, in the worse case they just sense a group of empty minded barbariens chasing a ball in the middle of a thousands simillar empty barbarians, and they don't have single thought to help us.


It is true they see us as barbarians. But their thoughts have done enough to try and help us. We would be in much worst conditions without them ever interacting with us.

For instance, no poetry without the Draconians.

No organized military without the Draconians.

No music and concept of art without the Annunaki. This would include concepts of realism and surrealism.

No literature without the Annunaki. And I'm talking about pure literature.

No cultivation without the felinoid races.

No domestication without the caninoid races.

No diplomacy or psychological understanding without the insectoid races.

No sarcastic humor without the Zetas.

"Me human me hit you wit stone Axe"

"Me extraterrestrial, me put up force field, which causes your own movement to throw yourself off into a wall in a ping pong sort of condition due to the rebound effect that occurs as you make an attempt of trying to make violent physical contact through my force field."

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
All they care is themselves. More advanced they appear to us, more selfishness is the rule.


There is a difference between selfishness and self-consideration.

And yes the more advance you become, the likelihood the more selfish you will become as well.

But most extraterrestrials are not selfish or evil. This might be hard to swallow, but I can sense the good and evil intentions within a human being. And sense far more evil on the Earth than there is throughout the entire sky. Humans are far more corrupt than all the extraterrestrials and all other living things on this planet put together. We are the demons, we just don't know it yet.


on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
To them we can become anything from food to slaves or vehicles for their intentions, and watch the big queue in front of their ship, if they come.


Hehe... most extraterrestrials couldn't be able to digest us as food without rolling over and dying. They can't stomac plants nor animals that well at all. But somehow mushrooms have become a delicacy to them.

But I know what you were actually saying... "They can kill off humanity or do truely horrible things to them any time they wanted to if they truely wanted to."

An Annunaki or Angel (same thing) told Muhammad the very same thing and this became a part of Islam, the mercy of God. God can kill you any time he wants to, but refuses to do so, to show you his mercy and love for you.

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
And they'd be beautiful, because they can change body form at will, and you'd never ever remember what happened to you.


Well the Annunaki are considerably more beautiful in their true forms than they appear as their human disquises.

I mean I think nice olive like grey skin with their lovely purplish hair and red eyes and considerably tall height is quite lovely, even though it would scare other humans to death. LOL!

Well I was an extraterrestrial in a former life of mine. So... that might explain my taste in women.


on Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:31am, Mewtwo wrote:
Those gray beings around, they are protecting us by the way, even if we don't like it. They would cooperate with our scientists and else, but there is no single clue how to issue clear communication method without degrading either side.


That's very true. Humans would have a hard time accepting what the extraterrestrials have to offer, they even have a hard time accepting what each other of their own kind has to offer. Guhh...

However, the extraterrestrials would have a hard time with the constant migraines they would have in dealing with humans.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 23rd, 2006, 08:13am

I agree, that most abductions and communication attempts are not interpreted correctly and high percentage of them actually leads to disaster, because we treat them such a way, that no human relationship would endure such a treatment.Actually it's a good luck that we have people who survived the encounters and are willing to say something.

They are very simillar, those good and bad aliens around and they keep together.
Technology they have very good but we had originally something really pure and better, which is now only in our memmories. We are able to imagine any sci-fi on our own, not because being guided, but because of having these pure screen memmories of whole universe sice time undefinable. Pure memmory , the source of our imaginations.
The projections appear more powerfull than the memmory itself, naturally. There is force investment behind each of them and they awake emotional chaos.
They have big TV for that purpose at home and if you are good child, they'll show you.

Reality is more like empty space with space still more and enough for worlds to be created, interact with each other and disolve, space enough for possibilities, to create your own image of your choice, space to dissepear in right time.
The goodness of things is not just imaginery goodness, every single creature's life bears the message of goodness. We are responsible, all in the universe, to know more about each other, not to close our eyes and ears and minds when it comes to recieving knowledge.
Everything I've learned voluntarily in my life was used at the right time. When I forgot my own importance...

How could you guess my identity if it's so difficult to everybody else ?
I'm often not sure where I belong, but I always wanted to be at some kind people. My family is best example on how it can be difficult to both sides.
I am very cosmopolitan creature and if you tell me that we are going to Orion tomorrow, not only that I believe you, but I start rejoicing from now on....and if you find me at senses morning, never they'll see me back.

I was quite mistreated by various human beings so called because they had problem with communication to me and vice versa, so I love, appreciate and study human beings, but one should take care.
This formerly uninhabited planet looks anyway like ZOO garden at the moment , or rather safari, so there is always enough choice of biological matterial. And we are perfectly chained be the gravity and no escape.
So those beautiful creatures of old, if the came back, they would take you. But when I say selfish, I mean selfish, more than you and me.
They are self-confident to such an extent, that they will not accept anybody to their world, unless beccomes like themself. No visitors.
If you have chance to evolve yourself in appropriate conditions, you'd not become like them anyway,
our origins are more complicate .
Your sense of beauty shows that you won't have easy life. Your Annunaki friend can not cook anyway.
I have seen peculiar worlds when I was small, but they don't belong to us and I don't belong to them.
Their sense of harmony is pacifiing but not free of gulit.
I think I know better place to live.
My own alien friends don't force me to become like them,
and if I do, they don't mind.
They do have own art, which is probably too subtle and different from ours, but it is pure in nature.
They are much more subtle than where our mind usually moves. And they can controll their temper.
And so on.
They might be waiting for ages for us to proceed our own gravity collapse, to be able to talk to them, but they can't do anything practical. If they ever step on the ground, they'd die one by one, if not protected by their own power zone, it's the same zone causing all the maladies of human beings ,animals etc.
It has protective shield of few layers, and the last two can be deadly. If they switch off the shield, they'd be visible. They are sure to do it sometimes.
It's always better to stay friend than become enemy.
If they ever touch anybody, there will be problems for sure. But it's worth of having friends ...

smiley E.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:42am

We have a very lively forum going on here. I've been a psychic all of my life. I am now 76 years old. When I was in my teens Angels used to appear to me as human figures, most of the time as biblical characters. When I grew older the same Angels came to me as intense and brilliant sparks of high energy electricity. I was not able to see Angels with my physical eyes but I had to experience them with my psychic "third eye".
I believe that Angels and UFOs appear to us at the level of our understanding and expectations. For instance, if you believe in a Christian religion they will come to you as Jesus or Mary. If you are a believer in the Hebrew religion they might come to you as Moses or another Hebrew biblical character. If you are a "sitter" in a seance circle they might impersonate your deceased relative. These appearances have happened to me in real life. Angels and ET's will take different shapes and forms and manifestations in order to communicate!

Some of us have not been abducted by ETs? Why? Do You know your history of your soul's incarnations and evolution? What is your "identity" level and frequency of being?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Star on Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:56am

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:42am, timetraveler wrote:
Some of us have not been abducted by ETs? Why? Do You know your history of your soul's incarnations and evolution? What is your "identity" level and frequency of being?


TimeTraveler, I have never seen an angel, per se, in all my 70 years of living. I am a Christian, believe in angels, believe ETs exist in our 3D world, and have had what I consider meaningful dreams. I have never been abducted (that I am conscious of), so I am unable to determine what my soul's evolution has been or what my level and frequency of being is.

I have been told by a psychic I trust, that my third eye is all the way open. So how come I don't experience a lot of the things other posters here do? I would love to know exactly what level my soul is on, but don't have any way of finding out.

I have been told by a medium I trust, that every night he sees me traveling with my teacher when he travels with his. I laughed at him when he said that, but maybe he's telling the truth. I don't know.

I have felt, and still do feel, that I have a particular mission (as everyone does), and I just hope that I am fulfilling it.....even if I am not sure how advanced my soul is, or what the mission is.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ashiana24 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:06am

Hello Queenofhearts smiley

One thing I've realized is that we have different kinds of people accessing these forums.

I've met several schizophrenics and paranoid schizophrenics who access boards like this. Usually they feel they are very special and are not like other people. I met one member of a forum who said he was very special and that he feels he is Jesus Christ coming back to save the world. Another 40-year old man said he used to ride his bike around town and notice people staring at him. He was sure they were aliens out to get him. He commented that the van parked down the street was the MIBS waiting for him to come outside so they could abduct him.

Well, he is still alive and well, but is one of several of these types of people. I no longer communicate with this person I just mentioned because I felt like I was contributing to the continuation of his paranoid delusions.

So although we have healthy truthful fellow members of forums such as these, we also may encounter other members who may not be so healthy. undecided

~ Ashiana
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by queenofhearts on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:27am

so true ash, so true, and i guess in responding, it just makes things worse, playing into their "world". thanks, i think i needed to hear this again. lol wont use my energy to keep it going, but will spend my time on other things. smiley
and yes ive known some people like that TOO, and each one proclaims, theyre special, and the ones to bring the message to everyone.
love ya hon
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:31am

If you go deep into hurting each other by feeling so homely on this planet, that none of your alien contacts will dare to step here, why does the forum exist at all ?

Have you ever seen actually mad person ?
Are you sure what was it caused from ?

Did you have any personnal encounters with aliens ?
It's a crazy thing and if you had one, you don't go around checking others mental health, you might have enough.
Sorry, I'm just near to computer

tongue E. kiss smiley


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 23rd, 2006, 5:07pm

Every soul has a "fingerprint" ID, based on the age of that soul and how many worlds it has incarnated in, and how much experience wisdom it has. The sum total of all of these factors equals its frequency value. For instance, in other dimensional worlds they do not have names ,or addresses, or telephone numbers, or Social Security numbers like we do. Each soul has their own frequency of "light", which is their individual identity. Are you able to comprehend this?
What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 23rd, 2006, 6:34pm

And the value is present in your beauty and the beauty is present in the eyes of those who sees. And the measure is one of all things under the heaven.
Some people have fingerprints and aliens have none.
If they want to pick up somebody it's enough to use their mind.
The most subtle of all beings too has no prints and prooves other than itself, and that's a lot of things.
Yet, the imprint is a protection for each being.

cheesy E.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Star on Jun 23rd, 2006, 7:03pm

Yes. timetraveler, I sure do understand what you said about the fingerprint ID and the lfrequency of light.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mewtwo on Jun 27th, 2006, 07:17am

Is the ID our owns systems biological memmory ?

And now let us say, that even single cell contains the whole message, transferred by generations of our mothers from the beginning itself.
Now any being in the universe created in a specific line of its own kind will have such ID.
The question is even if any combinations are possible between the entities, because the basic information will be always uncorrupted.
How is it that we are not aware of the whole system, even if we contain its original information ?
I am sure that each kind of beings have specific original identity of their own kind,
but we all are so easily lead astray from who we really are, how we feel and how we'd like to express, that we miss our true identities in the crowd of ignorance, emptiness and virtue, and at the end we don't know.
Just an idea.

smiley E.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Johnbro on Sep 7th, 2006, 6:37pm

Unwittingly, I have witnessed two events in my life... that were either demons from hell.... or some kind of extra-dimensional being.

The first thing I saw... looked as if I was examining an x-ray. Was a crinkled-looking ( and apparently see-through ) short bi-ped... very similar to what people refer to as 'grays' -- but not nearly as pretty as the smooth television version.

I was standing in an apartment in L.A. -- talking to a friend of mine... when 'something' apparently ran through the room ( looked like it came right through the adjacent wall ) -- we both saw it make a quick left turn... and into the back room of the apartment.

My friend literally had his skin turn color and began to shake. I just thought it was funny.

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Another occasion... and I saw one of the repticulan soldiers. I think that I will keep that one to myself... but IMO... they are unfortunately... a very real entity.

I feel that if the general public knew of the true happenings in our world and societies... and many would be jumping off of buildings... and would probably take their children with them.

It is horrific and sad.







Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 9th, 2006, 09:59am

I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.

This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks. Evidently my cry for help was heard.

On a more positive note; this incident happened when I was at the home of a female psychiatrist whom I will call Dr. Barbara. This particular instance dramatically demonstrated to me the ability of other dimensional beings to come into our world. I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall. I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a high point in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.


What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by joren on Sep 27th, 2006, 07:20am

Being new here I've just read through the 16 pages of 226 posts. Thank you all so much, it has been very interesting. So many different experiences, ideas and exchanges. What interesting journey's we humans have!
It is amazing to read so many "open" messages. I was taught at a very young age not to share such things - just to fit in. So maybe one day I'll open up a bit and share what I've seen too - maybe.
Thank you all for your openness. cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ashiana24 on Sep 30th, 2006, 10:49pm

Hi Joren, and welcome to our forum smiley

I’m so glad you have found our posts interesting. I agree; I think it’s wonderful to have a place like this where people can come and share ideas and experiences. I’m so sorry you were taught at a young age not to share such things, but I personally want you to know that we here will always have an open ear and will be understanding of whatever experience you have had.

Have a nice evening.

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

~ Ashiana


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by skaroth on Oct 7th, 2006, 02:13am

although i do believe in aliens, i dont believe in most of the photos of them, but one of the more convincing pictures ive seen is the Ilkley moor encounter in 1987, although the photographer was an ex policeman who claimed to have been abducted 7 years previously, i just get an odd feeling about it...

Ive heard other seperate accounts of a creature of this description being sighted on the yorkshire moor over the years - it is quite a mysterious area..

here is a link to the file picture that the casebook have of it

http://www.ufocasebook.com/ilkleymoor3.html
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 7th, 2006, 2:50pm

When we try to understand UFO abductions and sightings it is very difficult for me to attempt to explain what is involved. Firstly, when I speak of Angels I do not speak of religions. Religions are man-made and indicate the limitations of the human being. When I speak of Angels, I speak of higher frequency energy beings from other dimensions who have no sexual identity and cannot be comprehended by the human mind. They're not coming as "Messiahs" to save us.
The "Angels of Light" will come in 2012 to evacuate the life forms on this planet as an end to the "Human experiment". The laboratory UFOs have been extracting sperm from the males and eggs from the females in order to create a new hybrid race as the next generation of the human race. The new hybrid race will contain some of the genetic structure of the previous human race, such as the emotions, but will also include genetic material of the Saurian race such as expanded mental and psychic abilities. Only the selected offspring of the abductees will become part of this new hybrid physical race.
Other beings who are the "fallen Angels" will be restored to angelic status and be relocated to other dimensional worlds, which are not physical.
In order to comprehend this cosmic transition we have to let go of almost all of our teachings and belief systems to be able to understand the "big picture". Very few of us are capable of this understanding. Are you?

What do you think? cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Star on Oct 7th, 2006, 3:18pm

Timetraveler, you speak of all this as if you have inside information. Can you tell us where you found these ideas or if they are your own ideas? I'm just curious because I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by joren on Oct 7th, 2006, 6:44pm

Timetraveller,
Yes I will be pleased to read your reply to Star's question too.

I have put your link into my favourites so that I can study it to-morrow (have a firend coming for lunch today).

Your ideas rang some sort of bell inside me ... looking forward to hearing and reading more - thanks grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Oct 13th, 2006, 1:20pm

on Oct 13th, 2006, 1:15pm, murphy wrote:
wat ive learned about aliens,i asked how they make thier flying saucers one night,and i sensed a crazy paranormal factory,really complicated,really paranormal.I also heard a voice in my ear say be careful,then i sensed evil glaring eyes,thier are some evil aliens out thier,they dont hate us but wanna do harm,cause they enjoy it.

I also saw a flying saucer in a form of a cigar shape,i looked in the sky and it was like my eyes were a telescope,ive also saw a flying saucer for a split second,and one while i was in my house lookin at a photo of jesus,a mad psychic vision.Ive also seen very very cool looking aliens during meditation.

if anyone also gets mad psychic alien visions contact me,

sketchsi@hotmail.co.uk



I get them too. They're called screen memories. Fun stuff except for the reader who hasn't experienced them yet. There's a fair amount in here who have experienced same.

Don't assume your screen memories are necessarily from aliens. They can also be from human spirits.

Check this thread out.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=angels&action=display&num=1148453846




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 15th, 2006, 4:55pm

I've had angels come to me as UFOs and UFOs come to me as Angels. At this point I do not know which is which. The following are some experiences which I have had with Angels and UFOs as recorded in my two books. Notice that the quality and vibration of these Beings is above the human frequency.

"In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as important as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of people.

This was made aware to me in a lecture that I did in Montreal about 30 years ago to a spiritualist church. I was lecturing on the subject of angel worlds and UFOs. As my lecture was proceeding I felt the power and I realized that the level of my lecture was being raised to a very high level. As I continued to lecture I asked myself, why is my lecture raised at such a high level when the audience is French Canadian and have limited English comprehension? At this time my attention was drawn to two men who sat in the center of the audience. I looked at their eyes and I knew that they were not from this world. Their eyes had a calmness and peace and well-being such as I have never seen in any human's eyes.

I finished my lecture and I sat down. The only two persons who came to me as I sat were these two men. One man shook my hand and said, "that was a very fine lecture Mr. Greif." The other man said to me, "you are the first real human being that I have met." At this point I realized that these two men who were from a higher world had raised the level of my lecture so that they could raise the consciousness levels of people in the audience.
I was very honored by the response of these two men and to me it was like receiving a cosmic Academy Award.

Notice the similarity in this biblical meeting with Angels. Again, there were two "Beings". Were these the same two Angels who have appeared to biblical figures?
Ge 19:1
"And there came two Angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground".

"When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were interested in UFOs. I was interested both in psychic development and UFOs, and they wanted me to go with them to George Hunt Williamson in Arizona because he was contacting UFOs.

I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience. I went to bed one night, but before I went to sleep, I had the conviction that I was going to meet a U.F.O. that night and make a contact. I went to sleep, and I had a “dream”. In this “dream” I saw myself at a train station that was elevated above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was waiting to meet someone from a UFO, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look unusual. He probably would have an antenna coming out of his head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody abnormal looking.

As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a “man” walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody weird, and here was this normal looking “man” walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed him and he said to me, "Mr. Greif I believe you're waiting for me". I looked at him and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical Madison Avenue advertising man. When he said I believe you're waiting for me I knew that this was my "contact".

We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene changed. Instead of a modern street, it became a biblical desert. Time was turned back to the time of the Old Testament, and I saw that this desert was a plain that stretched out in front of me. At the end of this plain was a silver river. We walked together side-by-side alongside this river.

As soon as this scene had changed, this “Person” who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met “Him”, started to grow until “He” became 6 feet tall and “His” clothes became the biblical robes of a Prophet of the Old Testament. When I was walking next to “Him”, I felt that I was in the presence of a Being who was God-like. I was awed by the magnificent vibrations of this great Being. I felt so humble and so respectful.

The Being talked to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because “He” was taller than me and I wanted to hear what “He” was saying. He talked into my ear and I cannot remember the words, but I remember that “His” voice was like pure liquid silver and “His” words went through my ear and into my Soul. I was told at that time that I was given teachings that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words when it was right for me to remember, and that these words were impressed deep into my Soul.

In the 1970s I was working as a clerk in the Grand Central post office station and I was going to work. It was about 3:40 p.m. on a day in July. I was south of Lexington Avenue on East 42nd Street in Manhattan and walking very briskly while trying to dodge the heavy pedestrian traffic.
As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly felt my skull in the back of my head had been removed in an area of about 5 inches in diameter. It felt to me as if I was having a lobotomy operation and I could feel the coolness inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head had become numb. This feeling of numbness was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the pinching off of a nerve.

Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an eye in this “missing” area of my head, a disk shaped spacecraft which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This craft was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle magnetic breeze. I was able to “see” into the interior of the spacecraft whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 7 inches tall. They all had white skin, black hair, gray eyes, and they all looked identical in appearance. They were each dressed in a gray colored mechanics type overall, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised plastic type molded chair. He was facing a crescent shaped keyboard of many different colored lights. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the music organ at Radio City Music Hall. I “knew” that this keyboard was the operating panel for the spaceship.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the vessel toward the center. The third “man” was bent over a central support column which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the center axis of a gyroscope. He was peering into a black binocular type sighting device, which somehow reminded me of a Norden bomb-sight. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.

Then I saw what looked like a steel cable coming from the bottom of the spacecraft and connecting to the back of my head, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a communication connection had been made from the spaceship to my brain. The cable followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was connected mentally to that spaceship.
During that day at work I tried to believe that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as an hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house I saw a brilliant flash of silver light streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored metallic object. This silver light traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow. At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, exactly 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a confirmation from the spacecraft that my experience had been real."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by murphy on Nov 7th, 2006, 09:56am

this sites wicked for aliens,(WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE!)
checcit out,pictures drawn by psychics.
http://galactic.to/azb9152a/vesen.html
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by me2 on Dec 25th, 2006, 9:33pm

they look like the cover of communion
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by me2 on Dec 25th, 2006, 9:37pm

is there a chatroom for people to discuss contact experiences, only interested in real contact experiences
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by badbob on Dec 25th, 2006, 10:02pm

you can speak about it here .... what is your story ?

many members having special abbilytis some of us was inside .... by walking and cheking ..... road will feed you to right place .....

what do you know about aliens ?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Razor on Dec 26th, 2006, 08:36am

Me 2 Welcome to the board and please feel free to speak about anything you wish here at casebook ,this forum is for you to discuss whatever you wish. occasionally i sponsor chat room interviews. The next chat will be about a lady that has been aboard a mothership with the lady herself.You are welcome to attend at www.opforsol.com the chat room.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2006, 4:20pm

There are many different worlds of ET's interacting with our world at this time. Some of these ETs are from higher spiritual dimensions, and they are trying to assist in the remaking of a new hybrid human race. Other ET's are from lower frequency other dimensional worlds, and they create mischief and inflict pain on human beings in order to live vicariously through these emotions, as they do not have these emotions in their own makeup. But what we have to do is to learn to differentiate and identify the different levels of ET's which interact with us.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by choshu on Feb 24th, 2007, 12:25pm

Hello! I thought I would share what mine looked like. ONe of them was short human looking. I'm 5 foot even and he went up to about my chest. He had puffy white hair and a white mustache and beard that covered his face. He also had a white lab coat on. Very freindly person. I felt very comfortable with him. He's also a scientist that comes to me every 2 years or so.

On a seperate occation, another one I saw had a triangluar shaped head with little eyes and mouth and a slit for a nose. I think he was furry too but, the lighting was dim and it was greenish so I don't know if he was green or blueish. He was wearing a lab coat too.

There was also one standing next to him. He looked like a gray but he wasn't he had ash gray/white skin and he was tall and slender. He was also wearing a lab coat.

The people that I encountered didn't feel threatening they normally come every 2 yrs and tell me and show me things.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Feb 26th, 2007, 5:29pm

Thank you Choshu for your interesting reply. ETs that you have experienced proves a very interesting point. None of your ETs look alike. This is the same situation that exists with the reported sightings of UFOs. There is such a vast variety of UFOs shapes and forms and designs that there is no common reference point. There are many factors to be considered in the study of UFOs and ETs. Are the ETs that we come in contact with actual physical and organic beings or are they artificially created constructions? Are they physically real or projections from other dimensional worlds? I think we waste too much time trying to categorize and systemize and find a common denominator or a planetary homebase of UFOs.

UFOs and ETs cannot be comprehended by scientific or logical methods, and we must develop a system of thought that is beyond quantum physics and astronomical database application. That is why the governments of the world cannot figure out or duplicate the energy system of the UFOs or be able to control them sufficiently to fly them. These are my beliefs.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by choshu on Feb 26th, 2007, 6:10pm

Yes, I agree. I think they are all differnt like the differnt races of humans on earth. The one human looking one spoke with it's mouth the other 2 I've seen used Telepathy.

I don't remember what the other 2 spoke to me about because when I turned around to answer them I woke up.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 26th, 2007, 8:27pm

Mmmm... I always perceive them to be dark lik eme, never fair unless they have bad intentions. I always keep in mind that I'm a "sleeper" when interacting, and thus my perceptions help me to build my own images.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Feb 27th, 2007, 5:22pm

Allow me to post a message of hope and higher reality. This is an excerpt from my second book;

We can help to make our world a better place by keeping our vibrations high and by not allowing ourselves to drop down to the level of the “beast”. It is also important to develop and maintain a sense of well-being with the secure knowledge that we all have protective “Guardian Angels” and that everything that exists is under the control of “higher intelligences”.
I believe that everything that happens, no matter how negative it appears to be, ultimately has a positive value.
I have learned to maintain a protective detachment from the depressing events of the world. If we become too emotionally involved with people and events that are negative and disturbing, our immune system, our personal aura becomes weakened and vulnerable to disease and even death. Think of this physical world as only one dimension of reality in a multidimensional Universe.
There are mental dimensions and energy dimensions and spiritual dimensions of reality. Do not limit existence to only a physical reality. Angels, for instance are spiritual and energy beings who are able to appear in our mental and physical worlds. Our minds and consciousness and souls are an enduring reality which transcends life and death and exist forever.
What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 1st, 2007, 10:11am

This is a reply to JohnBro. When you saw these ETs go through the wall and appear in your room, this reminds me of an experience which I had which is very similar. I am using an excerpt from my second book as my posting.

"I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of a psychiatrist whom I shall call, Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a high point in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.
We are all travelers in time. Everything in the universe, including the universe, is traveling in time. We cannot say that we are traveling in space because space as we know it does not exist in the other dimensions of mental and energy worlds. Space in the physical worlds coexists with matter as a relative convenience, and it should not be defined as an absolute term. It should be defined and experienced in its relation to a particular dimension. Time in its essence is a multi-frequency state of vibration. Understand that everything in the universe, every state of being, is vibrating at a different frequency.
Everything in creation has its own "signature frequency". This is like a cosmic fingerprint. This is the identity and value of that thing or being. If we can alter the frequency then we can manipulate that thing or being by “tuning” that frequency for "“time travel” or galactic or inter dimensional travel.
By manipulating that frequency, an object or being can "travel" or materialize in another world or dimension. We can travel in time, if we can focus our frequency and "tune" in to the frequency of the "target" location, in a similar manner as tuning into a radio station. Each world and dimension has its own frequency band in the same way that radio and television have their separate bands with separate stations."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Mar 4th, 2007, 4:39pm

Quote:
If we actually make official contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence, what do you think they would look like?


Hmmm’ I am a Richard Hoagland fan, and think he has many things right. That said, using my imagination past the religion thing (I feel that Jesus is an ET maybe), I don’t think they would be anything that we could recognize if they were from another galaxy, if they were from this galaxy, and fairly close by say 100 light years or so, they may very well have hands and appendages, probably be carbon based, have a nervous system with a brain, most likely be sentient, but like the Borg (star trek TNG) in their social structure.


Their exact physical appearance would be impossible to even guess at, if they have never been here before. If you would have indicated the mass of the planet and its particulars, I would come closer to hazarding a guess on their appearance.

If current evolutionary theory is correct (I feel that it is not) they would not look like us in all probability, but would be fantastic and wonderful, even if their intent was otherwise!

: }>
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by mrgray on Apr 17th, 2007, 02:35am

Here's a video that looks real to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fl3fckzD04

It's in Spanish but you'll get the idea. I don't speak or understand Spanish, either.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by contact on Apr 19th, 2007, 4:12pm

I think that aliens are furry and have long tails and the parts of skin you can see is gray.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Apr 23rd, 2007, 12:23pm

I don’t know having never seen them. I have a sinking feeling they can look like anything they wish, if they are advanced enough.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tommythemad on Apr 25th, 2007, 01:16am

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This is a sculpt I did for a client, as part of a forensic reconstruction. They speculate that it could be a human alien hybrid.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Apr 25th, 2007, 05:10am

First I would like to thank everyone that has shared their experiences. I have not had contact with a tangible being but have felt their presence. Upon waking I have seen what appears to be human shaped things, but have always told myself that I was dreaming and my brain was waking up. (I sleep with my eyes open most of the time, yes it’s weird and scary to some, but the MD tells me it’s harmless). Usually, upon waking, I will see a being, which usually looks, well hideous really, standing in the bedroom, the as I try to focus on this apparition , this being, begins breaking up, and morphing invariably to the real world object that I am staring at, like a jacket hanging on the wall, or a door opening, etc. At first these events terrified me! But they happen so often that I know what “they” are even coming out of a dead sleep, and do not fear this experience because I have never been harmed.

So I know “they” are here. Maybe the reason that there are so many different descriptions of “them” is because each is a distinct species. A second explanation (and one that I find more palatable) Is that these beings manifests differently to each individual because our brain constructs their appearance? (that is if they are not flesh and blood, but are rather something else).

Anyway again thanks for sharing everyone, I know its not easy, at least that is the case with me.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Apr 25th, 2007, 05:19am


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This is a sculpt I did for a client, as part of a forensic reconstruction. They speculate that it could be a human alien hybrid.


Absolutely fantastic! Is this a CG model of the sculpture ? If not what medium do you use in your work? I paint, draw, do a little sculpting etc, so art is my second passion next to life, both this life and the Nexus or next life.

I dig realism, but usually do surreal or abstracts, or impressionist work by default. (think post French impressionism, like Monet) I will do realistic renderings if forced to, but it’s difficult , because I don’t see the real world in "realism" terms. Again beautiful work there Tommythemad.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 26th, 2007, 5:20pm

Binaryghost, I believe that your approach to understanding Angels and ETs is very intelligent. Allow me to post an excerpt from my latest book which is entitled, "Other Dimensions of Reality".

Chapter Seventeen
Angels

I believe in Angels and they form the foundation and reality structure of my belief system. They have saved my life countless times and they have intervened in my life in ways that I cannot comprehend or realize.
I have had many visitations and visions of Angels. Sometimes Angels have come to me not in any humanoid form but as beautiful blue color lights of pure living energy. This blue light would register on my “psychic eye” vision and remain for a few seconds and then dissipate.
When you receive information or communication from Angels or ETs it is not coming in through your normal ears or your normal eyes or any of your normal five senses. The communication is coming in through your "psychic hearing" and you are seeing what is projected through your psychic "third eye". This is an expanded range of your normal five senses.
When I have been in this psychic extended range I have seen the most beautiful colors and heard the most beautiful sounds which were beyond the normal spectrum of sight and hearing. The colors that I saw were so pure and vibrant that even today the colors of this physical world seem like black-and-white by comparison. Our normal physical senses are too low-frequency to receive these higher frequency transmissions.
This has happened to me when I saw the high-voltage or energy form of Angels. I did not see them with my normal eyes but rather with my psychic "third eye". This could be compared to high definition television, which must be received by a special receiver.
One time when I was writing on a sheet of white paper in my office I saw a microscopic “spark” of brilliant white light that was so bright that the white sheet of paper appeared to be black by contrast.
I "knew" that this microscopic “spark” of white light was an Angel, and I had the psychic realization at that time, that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel sparks of white light and yet each one of them would maintain their own separate identity.
The sighting of an Angel is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations. I have been taught that the same Angel who comes to a religious Catholic as the “Virgin Mary” will come to the religious Jew as Moses, etc. etc.
I believe that Angels cannot be seen in their true state of being because of their high voltage and high frequency; therefore, they take shapes and forms convenient to the "eyes of the beholder". Angels, in their true state do not have wings or resemble in any way the commonly accepted depictions.
Persons who have reported seeing Angels, including biblical accounts, did not see the actual Angels. What they saw were representations of their own mental and religious expectations and beliefs.
Do you recall the famous story of the school children who were locked in a classroom in the school building by a crazy bomber and his girlfriend? Before the bomb was exploded the children saw Angels who looked like the “mother image”, or the female teacher image and these Angels told the children to lie down at the back of the room and they shielded the children from harm and death. This was the representation form that the Angels chose to take based on the "expectations" of the children.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Apr 27th, 2007, 12:55am

friday 2am easten standard time USA

Hi Timetraveler! Nice Ideas. I believe in angles, just as I do demons. I tend to think that all these beings are extraterrestrials which should not detract from my or anyone’s “faith”.

You state or propose an interesting theory or idea mechanism for a method for their manifestation here on earth. Where auras are concerned I am sure you know that the blue white is a “pure” or positive aural energy state. I happen to think that this psychic eye that you allude to is a kind of higher mental/mind “receiver” and “projector” that extrapolates this reflected energy and translates these "supernormal" signals into a form that we can understand, much like our natural eye does with normal photons.

The reason we cannot record these experiences or beings with ordinary photographic or video equipment is that they do not reflect light (photons) but spiritual energy which is atemporal most of the time. I say most of the time because I suspect that the “quantum spiritual particles“ (for lack of a better word) that make up this ‘spiritual light” are much like real quantum virtual particles that have “twins“ like some photons for example. That is, one real particle and one virtual particle.

While ordinary quantum virtual twins exist as a temporal particle, one exists here in the real world, (the other remains in superposition or in the quantum foam). I feel that the spirit energy behaves nearly the same way. Yes it’s confusing.

I agree that we could extrapolate “angel etc” sightings to fit our religious or scientific upbringing. These creatures or Ets or angels or whatever are at the very least advanced beings that do not live in this plane of existence or have learned to hide in plain sight of us humans.

So we agree on many things! I say keep the faith, because I think that the more people who believe the stronger the presence of our angel friends.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 30th, 2007, 1:51pm

Thank you BinaryGhost for your most interesting reply. I think that we have to stop trying to fit the ETs and UFOs into our database of understanding. The human mind cannot comprehend the mystery of ETs and UFOs by referring to scientific or even esoteric books. It behoves us to try to raise our understanding and comprehension and consciousness level higher than what exists at the present time. We have to learn to think on a more angelic or cosmic frequency. We have to stop limiting ourselves to a planetary and physical frame of reference and instead learn to think in a more universal level. Our intelligence is far below the intelligence and psychic powers of Angels, ETs and UFOs. Let us raise our intelligence to be able to think inter-dimensionally instead of on a one dimensional physical and mental plane. We can help to change the world by how we think. This is my belief.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 1st, 2007, 4:15pm

If you are asking the question, how do I learn to think on the highest possible level? If you set your ceiling high then you can raise your level of understanding. The first step is to realize that all conventional religions are man-made and have been adapted to fit the structure of that particular church. The Creator or God cannot be identified or characterized or limited to any individualistic entity. The Creator is pure energy and has no sexual connotation. The easiest way to understand the higher reality is to realize that the Creator cannot be separated from "Its" Creations. Therefore, you are dealing with a "oneness" which cannot be divided or separated from "Itself". The highest Being that we can concept is an Angel. If we believe in Angels, then we are making contact and communion with the Creator and Creation. This is what I believe.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 2nd, 2007, 03:02am

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Let us raise our intelligence to be able to think inter-dimensionally instead of on a one dimensional physical and mental plane. We can help to change the world by how we think. This is my belief.


I agree. Our intelligence is limited by a very finite brain. Our mind is unlimited however.

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PS I ran over my telescope, crushed it, would like to trade (I don’t like to use money) something for a good refractor of if that can’t be had a reflector. Items that I have for trade; new punch amp and Kenwood satellite enabled CD for automobile, new RCA I POD , an Older RCA projection 48’ TV etc…

oops I hope I did not violate the TOS doing this?

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on May 2nd, 2007, 3:38pm

Well, I am not offended by your swap request. smiley
Have you tried looking on the interent for swap or freecycle.org sites in your area. It is a great way to find things to obtain or to give away.
Good luck on the telescope hunt.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 2nd, 2007, 7:36pm

Thank you CL! I would rather trade with members. I post on many other forums, and consider this a virtual community, my “hood” so to speak!

Hey I caught a good (pro UFO) show on the history channel last night; it debunked the blue book study etc. I just caught the last part, (I am not a TV person and use it for a sleeping pill because it’s usually Boooooreing!) , If it comes on again I will post the name etc for our members.

BG
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on May 2nd, 2007, 8:53pm

Perhaps one of our members has a telescope they are willing to trade for seomthing else.
Sometimes the History Channel has a good UFO show. The only things I watch besides weather are Science Chanel, history, Discovery channels and National Geographic. Those seem to be a bit more though provoking. Now and then I watch the Travel Channel just to have a look at some of the beautiful places on the planet.
So, all that rambling to say I hope you get your eyes into the skies with that equipment soon.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 2nd, 2007, 9:48pm

My basset hound is an alien, hee hee, no not really, sometimes I do seem to see people that have checked out on me in his eyes, like they are saying give me a hug and a milk bone...

He is snoring just now; do you all know what that means? He is in my beloved deceased grandmother mode! Hi Grandmother!

I am getting silly, time to sleep...

Hey bogie, could you switch to a hooters girl mode?

Make some hot wings too...


And then jump on a trampoline





Great now you look like a hooter girl with fur and a tail…

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just making a funny guys...

nite nite..

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on May 3rd, 2007, 4:56pm

If your Bassett Hound could talk!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 3rd, 2007, 7:42pm

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So, all that rambling to say I hope you get your eyes into the skies with that equipment soon.



Thanks Ms Creolelady! I still have a pretty good pair of binoculars, so I am not Jonesing' too much.

Hey was it you that said you liked storms?

Anyway I got some nice shots of a thunderstorm (no lightning pics) today, the clouds looked tornado weird (yellowish green / amber). Additionally I finally got a free hosting site at photo bucket, when I get a few more pics up that are UFO oriented I will post the hyperlink to it if anyone is interested.

Stay safe Ms Creole. That goes for all the members here at UFO Casebook!

R.Binary



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on May 3rd, 2007, 8:41pm

I like to photograph the storms here. I got some really scary cloud pics in March of 2006.
I would like to see the storm photos you have.
Do make sure you post those photos here on casebook. We have an entire thread set aside for the photos we take since a lot of us love our cameras.
Have a great evening all.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MB on May 3rd, 2007, 10:50pm

I saw some UFO's last Saturday
during the day and it was really exciting
but I don't have a camera
what is the best camera to use
still or video?
MB
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spearcarrier on May 4th, 2007, 06:24am

OOH, what did they look like?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by archaeus on May 20th, 2007, 9:27pm

What do aliens look like?
Well here are a few from personal experiences.

First we have something of a classic sectoid seen here clutching closely to a living human host. Notice the suggestion of bent leg apertures.
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Then there is this one... Somewhat long necked if you look closely.
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You then have other varieties with ringed eyes and slightly bulbous semi hydrocephalic heads.
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Then you have those which are not very appreciative of any interact contact at all. Almost seeming primitive in appearance and yet advanced regarding their ability to blend perfectly within any surrounding vegetation.
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Last year I had encountered these, a rather unique species which had been engaged in conducting surveillance of a particular family containing father, mother, and several children.
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I post these, not to elicit debate as they will surly promote arguments from both sides with something to prove, but rather as a means to announce my presence amongst the fine people of this forum as well as to suggestible contribute what else may truly coexist in our world.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 22nd, 2007, 09:24am

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In my own opinion I believe extraterrestrial life is like human life.


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My opinion on this is that they will look very similar to us.
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I agree, look in the mirror. I feel that they are coming back to earth after a light speed trip, that was for us at least 2300 years but for them less than a year or two. Lets hope one of them goes by the name of Jesus.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 22nd, 2007, 09:29am

Hi archaeus , welcome to the fourms , I would say that If I were ET I would hide in plain sight , and my space craft would highly resemble a Cessna.

I do think they make mistakes and this is how we may catch them or obtain evidence of their existence.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 22nd, 2007, 1:05pm

I do not have to prove to anybody that UFOs and ETs exist. To me, that is "a given". I think we should try to understand, who they are, what they are and why they are visiting us? Also, to me it is so ridiculous to waste time on researching what ETs look like. Different contactees, have reported different shapes and forms. You are not seeing the real ET. You are seeing a projection or a hologram or an entity that is capable of "shape shifting". The clothing of the human mind will not "fit" these interdimensional Beings. Try to raise your minds and your consciousness to think on their level, not yours. "The clock is ticking people".

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ufocatcher on May 22nd, 2007, 1:10pm

The different shapes of crafts could be different groups of aliens from all over are solar system. Just as we have different crafts here and in other countries.They visit to gain knowledge of us as we use drones to learn more about and enemy.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 22nd, 2007, 1:44pm

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think on their level, not yours



I do think like them because I am "them". We have been given their plans and their history in stone glyphs, by abductions accounts, ancient scrolls, and folk lore and in revelations of everykind,by “demonic”Possession and by photographs and astronomy observations. I feel that we won’t know everything about them until they are ready to reveal themselves. There may be one exception to the rule. If there is a race within this solar system (excepting us of course) that is only marginally advanced to us. (No more than a couple of hundred years)

RB

Ezekiel


Chapter 13

As I looked, a stormwind came from the North, a huge cloud with flashing fire (enveloped in brightness), from the midst of which (the midst of the fire) something gleamed like electrum.

4 Within it were figures resembling four living creatures that looked like this: their form was human,
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but each had four faces and four wings,
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and their legs went straight down; the soles of their feet were round. They sparkled with a gleam like burnished bronze.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 22nd, 2007, 2:09pm

Hey shrooming met any interesting cow pies latley?

PM me @once

rb
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 22nd, 2007, 5:02pm

The following are excerpts from my latest book, which is entitled, "Other Dimensions of Reality". This book is being published electronically by, Filament books and should be available within the next two months. In this book I try to explain the Creator and creation and the purpose of the human race. Ancient books and Bibles make numerous reference to godlike Beings who are called "dragons" and religious history speaks of Saints who engage in combat and slay "dragons". Anything which survives the ages, must have an element of truth in it.

"It was prophesized in the bible: [REVELATION 13:1, 11]:
"AND I STOOD UPON THE SAND OF THE SEA, AND I SAW A BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA, HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS, AND UPON HIS HORNS TEN CROWNS...AND I BEHELD ANOTHER BEAST COMING UP OUT OF THE EARTH; AND HE HAD TWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB, AND HE SPAKE AS A DRAGON." [Notice the Dragon reference]

When the “School for Souls” project was requested by the Creator, the time for this enterprise to be completed was by the year 2010. At that time there will be a “judgment day” when Jehovah and Satan will have to produce their “evolved” result of the experimental human race.
As you recall, when Jehovah was put in charge of this project he chose Satan as his partner and they created the curriculum of Karma and reincarnation. Satan commissioned the Saurians, an advanced race from the forth dimension, who had developed their technology and mental powers, to create the form and shape of the human beings. He also assigned to them the role of supervisors and teachers. Satan bestowed upon them the authority to be “in charge” of the human race.
But, the Saurians decided instead to vicariously “use” us to play “war games” and other subhuman behaviors. The Saurian “games” are similar to computer games that we play now involving the rise and fall of empires and civilizations such as Empire Earth, Civilization Three, etc. These are role-playing games in which the player can influence and control this planet and its civilizations. Can you comprehend that the Saurians are the “players” in the “real” game of life? It is they who create the different civilizations and control and manipulate the rise and fall of empires.
With the same advanced technology that they used to create our bodies and the different species of life forms, so also do they manipulate the affairs of earth? It is a “game” to them to nurture a civilization and then to have it destroyed and replaced by another civilization. We are the pieces on the board of this gigantic game. We are their pawns. [Mythology and ancient folk legends made frequent mention that the gods played “games” with us.] Is this true? Does history confirm this ancient belief?
Ancient religions and books make frequent reference to Saurian gods and deities. These Saurians possess great powers and appear to be a higher and more advanced race than us.
Mythology and oriental literature as well as religious and biblical texts refer to these Saurians as dragons. Some UFOs abductees recall being abducted and examined by large lizard like creatures with 3-foot long erect tails. I believe that these abductees are somehow seeing the Saurians who have created the “greys” and who are directing them.
Leviathan, in the Bible is one of the names of the primeval dragon subdued by Yahweh at the outset of creation: “You crushed Leviathan's heads, gave him as food to the wild animals” (Psalm 74:14; see also Isaiah 27:1; Job 3:8; Amos 9:3). Biblical writers also refer to the dragon as Rahab (Job 9:13; Psalm 89:10) or simply as the Abyss (Habakkuk 3:10).
The biblical references to the battle between Yahweh and Leviathan reflect the Syro-Palestinian version of a myth found throughout the ancient Near East. In this myth, creation is represented as the victory of the Creator-god over a monster of chaos.
The closest parallel to the biblical versions of the story appears in the Canaanite texts from Ra’s Shamrah (14th century BC), in which Baal defeats a dragon like monster: “You will crush Leviathan the fleeing serpent, you will consume the twisting serpent, the mighty one with seven heads.” (The wording of Isaiah 27:1 draws directly on this text.)
A more ancient version of the myth occurs in the Babylonian Creation Epic, in which the storm god Marduk defeats the sea monster Tiamat and creates the earth and sky by cleaving her corpse in two (see Assyro-Babylonian Literature).
The latter motif is reflected in a few biblical passages that extol Yahweh's military valor: “Was it not you who split Rahab in half, who pierced the dragon through?” (Isaiah 51:9; see also Job 26:12; Psalm 74:13, 89:10).
The basic pattern of the Leviathan myth recurs in the Greek story of the battle between Zeus and the many-headed dragon Typhon, recounted by Hesiod in the Theogony. It may also lie behind the much later legend of Saint George and the dragon, which is set in northern Syria.
In the Jewish apocalyptic writings it is foretold that Leviathan will break out of captivity at the end of the present era but will suffer a second and final defeat at the hands of God (2 Esdras 6:52; 2 Baruch 29:3-8). The apocalyptic version was probably influenced by parallel Iranian beliefs.
In the New Testament, the many-headed dragon of Revelation, chapter 12, shares a number of characteristics with Leviathan; in particular, it functions as an embodiment of forces hostile to God. In later Christian lore, Leviathan came to be identified with the “great fish” in which Jonah spent three days and three nights (Jonah 2:1), and subsequently with hell.”
[Note: This material was obtained from; Microsoft ® Encarta ® Encyclopedia 2005 © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation].

"The human race has always been monitored by the Beings that created us, as well as evil worlds who have tried to enslave us. In our history we have always been involved in a war between good and evil. Most of the ancient history and writings relate stories of fighting dragons. Dragons represent evil entities which try to dominate us and enslave us. We must fight dragons again as we have done in the past."


What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 22nd, 2007, 6:52pm

What do I think ? I like all of it,. I love to hear new Ideas old ideas or just ideas.

Anyway...


I'm sure you know the Mayans thought our world and time will end in Dec 2012?

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 23rd, 2007, 3:21pm

The following was received from one of my correspondents. I am posting it for your perusal. I believe that the Tibetans are on the right track, but they haven't figured out the answers yet.


"Tibetan Monks Remote View 2012

By N.K. Subramanium,
Source: India Daily


Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.


According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.

Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us."

What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Humanoid on May 24th, 2007, 07:08am

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Surely it would depend on the environment that they live in, wouldn't it?
There are several factors to consider;
1. What is the force of Gravity on their Planet? This would determine whether they are tall and spindly, short and squat or whether they are more like us Humans.
2. What degree of Light is given out by their Sun? This would determine what type of eyes they have. Too much Light would probably mean that they had developed some form of protective membrane over their eyes. Too little Light would probably mean that they had developed rather large eyes in order to see. similar to nocturnal creatures here on Earth.
3. What type of Atmosphere is in place on their Planet? This would determine how they breathed, it may well be that they are Aquatic and breathe a liquid solution just like Marine creatures do here on Earth.
It would also depend on the Chemical composition of the Atmosphere. This would have a bearing on the hue/colour of their skin.
There are so many factors to consider that we should not reach any conclusions till we actually meet an Alien for ourselves and learn about his Home Planet.
I think we have much to learn from each other, to actually do that will be very interesting.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 24th, 2007, 08:03am

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The following was received from one of my correspondents. I am posting it for your perusal. I believe that the Tibetans are on the right track, but they haven't figured out the answers yet.
"Tibetan Monks Remote View 2012


The art of deep meditation highly interests me. I am an open theist Christian, but still practice eastern style meditation, and find that it has profound implications in its quiet wisdom that speaks with Gods tongue. Tibetan monks practice this form of meditation as a matter of daily existence, and have been doing it as a “religious discipline” for thousands of years. So I give credence to their remote viewing results and other revelations, for they are truly tapped in to the higher levels of the astral plane.

I happen to agree with the monks and think that something will happen on or about 2012. I don’t know for sure this event will be. (Yet). Let’s hope the Mayans were not correct saying that time would end in the year of 2012 (Dec). Their calendars did run in 25,000 year cycles in which the 2012 date is the last one of three.




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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 25th, 2007, 3:11pm

I need to clarify several points from my previous postings.

When I say that we have to fight Dragons. I am referring to some evil Saurians[Dragons], who have conspired with Jehovah and Satan to control and manipulate the Human race, and not to the entire Saurian race. [Power corrupts]. The Saurians are unbelievably skilled in genetic engineering, and in the creation of artificial intelligence Beings, [such as the greys in the UFOs]. They engineered and created the Human race, which is different from any other existing race. Although there are many different life forms in the Universe, there is none resembling the Human race. The prototype for the human race was based on the Saurian vertebrae, with the physical body, including five fingers and the opposing thumb designed to be the most efficient body for the physical planet Earth environment. Each world has its own peculiar form and shape based on the environmental factors.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on May 25th, 2007, 6:48pm

Dragons! Oh my!

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him"
(Revelation 12:9).

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 27th, 2007, 6:23pm

I'm sorry, but according to Snopes.com this article regarding the giant skeletons may be a hoax. I didn't know. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spearcarrier on May 27th, 2007, 6:44pm

So, Timetraveler, why is it you are thinking we have to fight? There are those who see things as friendly. What reasons have you thinking the other way?

Mind you, I"m in the middle right now. Still viewing things, watching hoaxes, gathering information, etc.

Do you have a mandate, perhaps?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 28th, 2007, 6:52pm

Although this giant skeleton article appears to be a hoax, I still have my teachings and beliefs. I try to explain everything in my second book, which is entitled," Other Dimensions of Reality:Are You Ready For Exodus 2012?", which is scheduled to be published as an E-publication within the next few months by Filament books. Unfortunately, I am forced to post excerpts from this book, which do not fully explain the entire story. Yes, it is important to challenge this world as it exists, in order to set the stage for a better world. The evil Dragons that we must fight are certain Saurians, who are misusing their mandate to teach the new souls and who are using us to play their "war games". I will have to explain this more fully in subsequent postings, [if you are interested]?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 31st, 2007, 2:59pm

I agree with you that some Dragons are good images and represent a higher intelligence Being. However, the Dragon is not indigenous to this planet or dimension and is a fourth dimension Being. Therefore, we are dealing with the possibility of "shape shifting", image projection, hologram or "crossing over" from the fourth dimension. In my second book, I have written that nobody has really seen an Angel in its true form, unless they have seen the brilliant "Spark" of high energy electricity, which is the true energy form of an Angel. Angels project themselves into whatever shape or form that is necessary in order to communicate with Human beings. The form that they take is based on the level of understanding, and the expectations of the contactee. In other words, if you are religious Catholic, they will come to you as Jesus, or Mary or some other Catholic figure. If you are Jewish, they will come to you as Moses or King Solomon or Elijah, or some other Old Testament Biblical character. In that famous story of hundreds of school children being saved from an insane bomber, the Angels came as female schoolteacher representations. I hope that this helps clarify your questions. Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on May 31st, 2007, 3:45pm

Irwyn I agree that angels can take the form of someone that we could most readily accept. But I do have a question for you. Would it be typical/normal to be visited by more than 1 angel at a time? Lets say 4 with one being the leader? The reason I ask is I have a recurring dream in which 3 beings in human form ask me to follow them to see the captain. The dream occurs while riding in a train car or even a plane. All four being appear human except there's a bright light or a glow that seems to surround or come thru them. They're almost albino in appearence. When I awake the bedroom usually feels charged.

I can't understand if there angels, spirits or just my imagination. I may have asked this question before if so please forgive me. I know I have talked about it on some other boards. Dan
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by alieniam on Jun 1st, 2007, 06:45am

From most what I've read about the subject I came to a conclusion that there are two types of aliens - those who can truly shapeshift and those who can change their appearance by manipulating others minds but not truly changing the physical form.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Jun 1st, 2007, 11:08am

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Irwyn I agree that angels can take the form of someone that we could most readily accept. But I do have a question for you. Would it be typical/normal to be visited by more than 1 angel at a time?


Angels can come one at a time or en mass, like demons.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jugement on Jun 1st, 2007, 2:32pm

Gforce. I have the ame type exsperances with differant types of beings mine mostly started in the early 1990,s. some times I think its afigment of amagenation. lately I have found that they are real some simple thing s I rember be comes a reality from what I remberwhen in contact or when they choose to contact me. the contact is simple or they are their just holding a conversation with me seems like ours then some them I see occasionaly or not since. ITs mind bogling is it not . YOU just want ot know what all this is about whom ever they are they have a lot of time on their hands before if they are going to tell us some thing we consider very inportant to our selves or the world. undecided
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 1st, 2007, 3:09pm

Allow me to reply to your questions with excerpts from my second book," Other Dimensions of Reality". First, let me clarify some basic Angel realities. Guardian Angels, and Angels that you would come in contact with, are from the fifth dimension. Demons and other creatures from Hell are from the fourth dimension. I have been visited by both Angels, and Demons. We are not dealing here with physical Beings or entities from our physical third dimensional worlds. We are dealing with other dimensions of existence. Please raise your level of consciousness to understand this. Here is the excerpt;

"I have had many visitations and visions of Angels. Sometimes Angels have come to me not in any humanoid form but as beautiful blue color lights of pure living energy. This blue light would register on my “psychic eye” vision and remain for a few seconds and then dissipate.
When you receive information or communication from Angels or ETs it is not coming in through your normal ears or your normal eyes or any of your normal five senses. The communication is coming in through your "psychic hearing" and you are seeing what is projected through your psychic "third eye". This is an expanded range of your normal five senses.
When I have been in this psychic extended range I have seen the most beautiful colors and heard the most beautiful sounds which were beyond the normal spectrum of sight and hearing. The colors that I saw were so pure and vibrant that even today the colors of this physical world seem like black-and-white by comparison. Our normal physical senses are too low-frequency to receive these higher frequency transmissions.
This has happened to me when I saw the high-voltage or energy form of an Angel. I did not see them with my normal eyes but rather with my psychic "third eye". This could be compared with high definition television, which must be received by a special receiver.
One time when I was writing on a sheet of white paper in my office I saw a microscopic “spark” of brilliant white light that was so bright that the white sheet of paper appeared to be black.
I "knew" that this microscopic “spark” of white light was an Angel, and I had the psychic realization at that time, that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel sparks of white light and yet each one of them would maintain their own separate identity."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 1st, 2007, 3:17pm

In another type of Angel or UFO or ET experience, I was contacted with a humanoid form of higher intelligence entity. Here again, is an excerpt from my book;

"In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as important as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of people.

This was made aware to me in a lecture that I did in Montreal about 30 years ago to a spiritualist church. I was lecturing on the subject of angel worlds and UFOs. As my lecture was proceeding I felt the power and I realized that the level of my lecture was being raised to a very high level. As I continued to lecture I asked myself, why is my lecture raised at such a high level when the audience is French Canadian and have limited English comprehension? At this time my attention was drawn to two men who sat in the center of the audience. I looked at their eyes and I knew that they were not from this world. Their eyes had a calmness and peace and well-being such as I have never seen in any human's eyes.

I finished my lecture and I sat down. The only two persons who came to me as I sat were these two "men". One "man" shook my hand and said, "that was a very fine lecture Mr. Greif." The other "man" said to me, "you are the first real human being that I have met." At this point I realized that these two "men" who were from a higher world had raised the level of my lecture so that they could raise the consciousness levels of people in the audience.

I was very honored by the response of these two "men" and to me it was like receiving a cosmic Academy Award."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 1st, 2007, 3:22pm

Regarding attacks from demons, I am posting this excerpt from my book;

"I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.

This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks.

Evidently my cry for help was heard."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 1st, 2007, 3:34pm

This excerpt from my book will demonstrate that the mind is capable of travel into other dimensions;

"This incident made me realize that there are two dimensions of time, mental time and physical time.
In one particular instance, this was dramatically demonstrated to me. I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a high point in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall Being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical Being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had "raised" the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in Beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Jun 3rd, 2007, 06:37am

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” In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as important as our thoughts.


Hey TT, the above quote is also a mantra of the Gnostic Christians (see note one) [I am an open theist Christian], and I derive some of my beliefs from the Gnostic faith as they believe that we create the kingdom of god with our minds. I don't however feel that the Abrahamic God is evil. I incorporate my belief of the reality of UFOs and extraterrestrial life with my spiritual beliefs which are very compatible.

Anyway , it’s interesting no?

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Gnosticism (from Greek gnosis, knowledge) refers to a diverse, syncretistic religious movement consisting of various belief systems generally united in the teaching that humans are divine souls trapped in a material world created by an evil spirit, the demiurge, who is frequently identified with the Abrahamic God. The demiurge, embodiment of evil, exists alongside another remote and unknowable supreme being that embodies good. In order to free oneself from the evil material world, one needs gnosis, or esoteric spiritual knowledge available only to a learned elite. Jesus of Nazareth is identified by some (though not all) Gnostic sects as an embodiment of the supreme being who became incarnate to bring gnosis to the Earth.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 4th, 2007, 5:06pm

["Ever since I can remember, I have had an irrational fear which is a reoccurring vision in my mind, of a bare, grey colored room in a laboratory like setting. Standing on the floor at the far end of this room is a TV console like "device" which has a large monitor screen which gives off a purple colored light. I am terrified of this device and I know that if I look into this purple light my identity and my mind will be erased.
I connect this vision to a past life when I was captured in an “outer space” war. These past lives memories of fears and traumas are apparently stored in a collective consciousness of past experiences."]
Note: the passage in brackets is an excerpt from my book entitled, "Other Dimensions Of Reality".

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jun 4th, 2007, 5:12pm

Aliens: What do they look like? Aliens! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BinaryGhost on Jun 4th, 2007, 7:25pm

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Aliens: What do they look like? Aliens


Yeah or look in the mirror....

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jun 5th, 2007, 09:44am

Yeah ok then, but i ain't from a small moon orbiting uranus! Plan Et: study and retrieve, disect and infiltrate.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jun 5th, 2007, 09:48am

Confusion of the masses of course. We come in peace. Shoot to kill! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 16th, 2007, 09:45am

I'm very gratified to see so many diverse, but interesting theories and opinions. And that's what makes an intelligent conversation. I believe that the conscious mind is the "stupid" mind and that the subconscious mind is capable of communication with entities from higher worlds and dimensions. For me the conscious mind is like my computer, it can only function with input and logic based on information stored in its databanks. Angels and ETs communicate with us in dreams and visions and in putting us into a "trance like" state of mind control. The reason for this is very simple. The information and belief systems stored in the conscious mind interferes with the higher frequency of communication from "higher world" Beings. This creates resistance, whereas the dream state, or vision state are a much easier medium for this type of communication. A good example of this is Edgar Cayce, also known as, "The Sleeping Prophet". The Angels had to put him in an unconscious sleep state to bypass his conscious mind, because his conscious mind was programmed with religious beliefs and concepts. Therefore, he had to be "put under" in order for these higher frequency "inspired" teachings to "come through". Spiritualist mediums similarly receive their inspired teachings, while in a "trance state". Problems that seem too difficult to solve in the "waking" or conscious mind state are often solved by the subconscious mind in the sleep or "dream state". Let us try to understand that Angels and Beings from higher worlds are higher frequency, and they have to step down their vibrations like a "step down" transformer to convert a higher frequency to a lower frequency.

Also, we do not receive inspired teachings or messages from the departed or spirits of the dead. They do not have the power to, "raise" themselves, the communication comes from Angels who impersonate the deceased, in order to maintain comfort and contact with human Beings.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 30th, 2007, 09:26am

We will never understand the meaning of Life and the "Creator's" role, and our involvement if we keep the window of our understanding narrow. We must learn to think like Angels, or we are one level higher than the monkey. Let us start with higher logic. The "Creator", as described in the holy books of the Hebrew Torah Bible, cannot be named, or described or even understood. The "Creator" is not a "He", or "She" or even an "It". The "Creator" is not an individual entity and is not a father figure. The references in all of the religious books to God does not describe the "Creator". The Creator can not be individualized, or separated from Its creations. The Creator is everything, both the uncreated and the created, and is best described as Energy or Spirit. Can you comprehend this? I've attempted to explain this in my latest book, entitled," Other Dimensions of Reality" which is due to be published imminently electronically by Filament E-book publishing.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 3rd, 2007, 2:31pm

When you can rise above the clouds of confusion and see clearly, then you'll be able to see and understand the real story. The Creator is not explained in any Bible. The Bible makes many references with a multitude of names and titles, such as God, the Lord etc. But this is not the Creator. The entity who was chosen to be in charge of the education of the Creator's Souls was the Angel Jehovah, who then made a partnership with the Angel Satan for this purpose. This partnership is so clearly described in the Bible when Jehovah, [a.k.a. God] decided to test Job, and Satan, his partner, played the role of the bad guy to assist in this test. Jehovah is not God,[the Creator], but has assumed the title to satisfy his egomania. His contract runs out between 2010 and 2012, when the Angels of Light arrive to audit his performance. That is why the laboratory UFOs have been rushing for the past 200 years to create a hybrid race to replace the defective human race that was under the supervision and the authority of Jehovah. Jehovah intends to present the new hybrid human race as his "work product".
Just to set the record straight, Jehovah did not design or create the bodies of the Human race. That task was subcontracted to the Saurian race, who are a fourth dimensional race that is proficient and skilled in designing and creating bodies. The "greys", are artificial intelligence creations of the Saurians, and they are trained to perform many tasks including genetic engineering. This information was given to us by some abductees who challenged a Dragon like Saurian, who was apparently in charge of the "greys", in a UFO. When the abductee said to the Saurian," you have no right to violate my privacy or to conduct these invasive procedures on my body", the Saurian replied," we have the right, because we created you".


What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 5th, 2007, 3:15pm

I know that it is very hard for you to understand what I am trying to say. I am maintaining that Jesus was a man, who was a great teacher of the Essene teachings, but he was not the, "Son of God". The logic that I use is that the Creator is made of energy and is the "Great Spirit" referred to by the American Indian. How does an energy Being produce a "flesh and blood" Human Being offspring? Did the Creator also have a daughter, or second cousin? This religious belief system is so ridiculous, that it defies logic and common sense. Religions are man-made, and they cause wars, dissension and separation of the many segments of Mankind.

If you read the Bible and see the many "tasks" and "tests" and "angers" and "punishments" that "God" a.k.a. the "Lord" has subjected the human race to, then you will realize that you are not dealing with the "Supreme Deity", but rather the Angels Jehovah and Satan, who have assumed the title and identity of the Creator. Do not be fooled by this colossal "Deception". Check this out with your Angels!!!

As to the UFOs interfering and intervening in the workings of "Mankind". Some time ago UFOs purposely overloaded the Niagara power grid in the Northeast of the United States in order to to see how millions of people would react to this massive power blackout. They controlled this experiment so that in spite of the enormous magnitude of this catastrophic event not one person lost their life in this catastrophe!
In another example of UFOs intervention, some time ago, moronic scientists decided to map the contours of the planet Earth by detonating a massive atomic bomb at the North Pole. UFOs had to intervene by "cushioning" the disastrous shockwaves from this explosion to prevent the Earth from being knocked out of its orbit and all life on this planet destroyed.
In another instance of UFOs intervention, they "kidnapped" two or possibly three Mars space probes which posed a threat to the Solar system. Can you imagine NASA trying to explain how these space probes disappeared from their monitors? So, as you see, UFOs play an important role in protecting and safeguarding the Human race from self-destruction.

Try to see the "big picture" and realize that the entire Universe is connected and that all of its parts are dependent upon each other for survival. Learn to think.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by starman on Jul 5th, 2007, 3:47pm

Jesus is the Son of God!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by explained on Jul 6th, 2007, 8:37pm

what do the nordics look like
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 7th, 2007, 10:37am

It is not my intention, or desire, to insult anybody's beliefs, or to challenge anybody's beliefs. If you are secure with your belief system then you should be able to discuss alternate theories and philosophies. Do not take any of my postings as a personal attack, or as an admonishment. This is called freedom of speech and individual identity. I have spent most of my 77 years searching for understanding, and I have discarded many belief systems and philosophies along the way. Be strong in your beliefs.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 9th, 2007, 3:50pm

I think that many people do not understand the message that a teacher like Jesus was trying to send. I believe that the message was," we are all the "seed" of God, [the Creator]". This makes more sense to me, because our Souls are the same DNA as the Creator. If you can eliminate the man-made "dogma"and interpretations of religions, then you will have a better chance to commune directly with the higher intelligences.
What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

PS, in 1975 I was ordained as a minister of a Spiritualist church by Reverend Rawls in Montréal, but I have chosen not to pursue this title, or to embrace the teachings of the Spiritualist church.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by El Charrua on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:24pm


This sims to be a very Religious Thread.
Are we going to talk about Jesus ?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:54pm

on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:24pm, el charrua wrote:
This sims to be a very Religious Thread.
Are we going to talk about Jesus ?


Actually el charrua, no. It's shifted somewhat in here a little but Jesus and religious literature is pretty much contained in the UFO/ANGELS/PSYCHIC section since the webmaster prefer it not flow out into the rest of the forum.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by El Charrua on Jul 11th, 2007, 07:07am

Ok Thank you.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 11th, 2007, 10:01am

Some of you are engaged in a thinking, which is an exercise in futility, and naïveness. The World system that exists today is beyond repair and is rotten to the core. No Human Being, or organization can repair it. You make me laugh when you say that the president will fix what is wrong with this country, or when you expect the leaders of the world to change the way things are. When you think like that you are negating the purposes of the UFOs and not taking into account the roles that higher intelligence Worlds, such as Angels play in safeguarding and protecting our Solar System and the rest of the Universe. UFOs are real!!! They have not been "visiting" us and abducting and altering the genetic makeup of humans because they have nothing better to do. There is a "PLAN" to replace our self-destructive race with a future race of hybrids. They're doing some serious work, and we should not underestimate their importance.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 24th, 2007, 2:18pm

My wife Connie and I have just returned from seven days in Las Vegas. What a waste of time and money. Vibrations are so bad in Vegas, and it was 110°, to make it even worse.

We live in a three-dimensional World. There are seven dimensions to Creation. The third dimension involves physical Beings and physical worlds. The fourth dimension, which is a parallel dimension to ours is a combination of astral and mental Beings. The Universe is always moving, and at this time our third dimension World is very close to the fourth dimensional Worlds, and it is very easy for fourth dimensional astral bodies to "cross over" and take solid physical forms and to engage in mischief or in vicarious "feeding" off our emotions. There are many recorded incidents where "chupacabras" have appeared and UFOs have been seen in the same area. The UFOs did not transport the chupacabras to our world. Certain UFOs have been assigned to monitor them and to transport them back to their Worlds. That is because the "chupacabras" are too much of a threat to our World, and we cannot effectively deal with them. UFOs play many roles, including protecting the balance of life and the life forms of this planet.
Most fables and elements of mythology contain real creatures. Winged dragons, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Leprechauns, Elves and Fairies exist in the fourth dimension. The Guardian Angels exist in the fifth dimension and Angels of light exist in the sixth dimension.

I have been attacked many times by evil creatures from the fourth dimension, but my Guardian Angels have protected me and saved my life countless times.

Thank God for Angels!!!.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 24th, 2007, 2:28pm

I thank you all for your most favorable and supporting posts. When you understand some simple, basic realities, then it makes it easier to understand the "Big Picture".

The Human race is an experimental race which was originally designed to teach Souls by experience. Unfortunately, the Angels in charge of this project, namely, Jehovah and Satan have assumed the roles of "deities" and have taken advantage of their "mandate" to raise civilizations to their apex and then destroy them. They have engaged in "war games"[/color]" and in the genocide of certain races. The Human race, does not control its own destiny, the Angels Jehovah and Satan do.
When you naïvely believe that the human race will change its ways and save itself, you are sadly mistaken. Remember that these higher worlds can see the future, and prepare for it. That is why they are constructing the new hybrid human race to be implemented before the year 2012. They know that the "Angels of Light" will come to monitor them and to examine their work. That's why they are trying to create the new hybrid Human race and to claim that this is their ""work product"".

When you ask, what can we do to help to save the human race? You can help by raising the level of your own consciousness, and by communicating a higher understanding.

The evil powers that control this planet must answer to the "Angels Of Light", who are the highest Angels and who are responsible for the care and maintenance of the entire Universe and all of Creation. This "judgment" is indicated in the holy books, as the "Day of Reckoning". This will take place before the year 2012. Do not be concerned with whatever negative acts or actions you have been responsible for. We have all been ""pawns"" in this "game". This is all part of the Souls learning.

Try to rise above this World and all of its evil and insanity, and believe that there are higher intelligences which will restore order and balance.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 27th, 2007, 09:28am

I agree with a lot of what you guys and gals are saying. We have to become "free thinkers" and to rise above religious teachings and dogma. Religions are man-made and benefit the structured churches and religious organizations. They do not benefit, or teach, or enrich, or enlighten the people. Religions cause Wars,dissension and division among the peoples of this planet. Religions instill fear and guilt and limit the concept of the Creator to be in the image of a super Human Being. How utterly stupid and infantile.

I have memories of past lives, one of which when I was an ET who came from the constellation Orion with a group of 39 other "scientists" and we were indirectly responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. At that time, and in that life I was a "genetic engineer", and I did "experiments" on the humanoids by "melding" some of the genetic DNA contained within the Human genome of birds, fish and animals. These experiments that I performed are still within the genetic coding of the Human Being, and sometimes an embryo is born with a claw hand of a bird or with the fur of an animal. Medical doctors do not understand this, and in their ignorance label this as," genetic mutations". However, these "genetic mutations" are really somehow embedded in the racial "memory" of the Human genomes. This particular past life was revealed to me to be 150,000 years ago. So, we have all lived many past lives in different shapes and forms, and in different Worlds and Dimensions. Try to expand your thinking to a more "Universal" identity and "rise" above the limitations of your present day life.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Shechaiyah on Jul 27th, 2007, 12:53pm


Our planet *IS* the Star Wars BAR SCENE.

And there are as many intentions -- idealistic or carnal -- as there are variations in DNA.

We must not treat ETs as a monolithic single group. They won't believe one word out of our mouths if we do that.

They know better; and we better know better.

: ) ~*~Shech--
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Nephilim on Jul 27th, 2007, 6:00pm

On the topic:

I have heard that some ET are Humanoids, some reptilian [not the same exact make-up as earth reptiles though similar in appearance], and then there are types like the 'greys', which are genetically created [clones of sorts].

Humanoids vary in appearance as far as skin color, depending on which solar system they live in and the conditions of their planets and the conditions of their star [Sun]. Some bluish, others orange/reddish, etc. I'm sure there are several types we've never even thought about.

Reptilians are described as looking like half human-half reptile, like a gator, but not human at all, just in appearance [standing on two legs etc].

We all know what greys look like as decribed.

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by matlivo on Aug 7th, 2007, 10:56am

(my quote i felt in wrong thread. more suited here, if anywhere.)

Quote:
(i think,) with the knowledge gained by the more 'credible' abductee researchers, i am leaning towords the opinion that the grey's are 'embrionic' in appearance for a reason; namely, that they are the result of 'some' of the missing/phantom pregnancies reported by female abductees.
at a guess, they appear to of then been 'raised' in a different process to that of a 'normally' incubated child(as in inside the womb).
......as for the reported 'hybrid' species, they would appear to be a another derivative of this process, (with a slight varient), but as for the details, i also do not 'know'.


...no information here, only speculation. (but as said; more suited)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by TheVoiceofSanity on Aug 17th, 2007, 8:34pm

What if they live on a very cold planet, and have fur?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by SETI on Sep 4th, 2007, 5:23pm

The Greys could represent a species similiar to homo sapiens or our future descendents. They may have figured out a way to scientically "evolve" the brain by bypassing a reduction in brain growth created by the birth process.

It is possible the Greys appear embrionic because they created a method to remove their embroyos prior to birth to maintain the embroyo's overly large skull and proportionate large brain. Otherwise, an embroyo's head (and brain) needs to decrease in size to allow safe passage through the birth process.

Once the Greys are removed prior to birth, the Greys may be scientifically maintained to continue the large brain growth experienced by embroyos. The brain experiences the greatest strides in growth during the embrionic process.

As a side effect for their scientfically increased brain size/power, the Greys continue maintain their embrionic, pre-birth appearance, which mostly likely does not appear to be shocking to their alien society and cultural expectations, if any.

Given the Greys' apparent willingness and glee to scientically experiment with homo sapiens' reproduction/birth in reported abuctions, it should not be surprising if we someday learn the Greys also scientifically manipulate their own "birth" process.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by matlivo on Sep 4th, 2007, 9:27pm

Posted by: SETI
Quote:
Given the Greys' apparent willingness and glee to scientically experiment with homo sapiens' reproduction/birth in reported abuctions, it should not be surprising if we someday learn the Greys also scientifically manipulate their own "birth" process.


appears valid.
and wouldn't surprise me.
(if they felt the benifit outways any possible negative)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by SETI on Sep 5th, 2007, 11:07am

on Sep 4th, 2007, 9:27pm, matlivo wrote:
Posted by: SETI


appears valid.
and wouldn't surprise me.
(if they felt the benifit outways any possible negative)


The consistent reports of Grey/homo sapien hybriads by aductees also confirm the Grey's openness to scientifically experiment with offspring and the birth process. The Greys' value/moral systems, if any, are probably so different from ours that they might not feel reservations about experimenting with their own offspring and/or the birth process. The Greys appear to operate for the benefit of the many or the collective (in order to make an omelette, you need to break some eggs).

Given their willingness to "play God" with birth/reproduction, their embroyo appearance is probably the result of their decision to remove themselves from the actual birth process before their heads/brains decrease to allow birth passage. Their culture, if any, might discount or ignore the side effect of their permanent embroyo appearance. They might not even share our value upon physical appearances/attractiveness. They could have a blind spot in their thinking patterns when it comes to how they might physically appear and they could care less about a permanent embroyo appearance. Their concerns could be incredibly foreign to our patterns of thinking which place importance upon physicality and visual attractiveness.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 5th, 2007, 2:42pm

Supposing that the "greys" are artificial intelligence "manufactures" and not biological Beings which are programmed to perform certain tasks and which have a limited "reaction" type intelligence? Supposing that there is a "taller" grey which is actually the "surgeon" who performs "gene splitting" and "grafting" and merging of human genomes with ET genomes to create a hybrid "human" race of the future? Supposing there is a higher intelligence, which is directing this plan to replace the defective and suicidal present human race with an upgrade?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by matlivo on Sep 6th, 2007, 08:48am

SETI
New Member
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They could have a blind spot in their thinking patterns when it comes to how they might physically appear


"...who told thou that thy were naked?..."

(just a thought. no theory involved; yet).
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timetraveler
UFO Casebook Staff

intelligence "manufactures"....... hmmm.
um. if i had any comprehension of 'interdimentional physics', (possibly[?] neccesary for researching that subject )...
... i'd probably enjoy discussing that a lot further with you.
wink

other than that; appears to be a viable theoretical derivative of the "genetic" manipulation already supposed to of occured/ be occuring.
(and even more-so, if importance of 'mindscan' has been under-evaluated/credited)


as for
"Supposing an upgrade...?"

'personally' would like to think 'that' is the result.
upgrade.

that said, am still waiting for the stat dec regarding documentation of my subconscious agreement to emply the 'others'(?aliens) to upgrade me.
am told to expect it in six to eight weeks.

........then again;
still waiting for a copy of the one i requested from god, years ago.

....or, maybe, they 'are' they 'god'.

or...

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my brain hurts.
bye for now
cheers grin



till then

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by SETI on Sep 6th, 2007, 1:51pm

It is possible the different "types" and "sizes" of the Greys could be the result of genetic manipulation by the Greys to create and maintain specialists within their society/flight crews/civilization. Maybe, they live in their own alien, scientifically monitored form of Plato's Republic with specialized drones, rulers, etc. The Greys might predetermine and genetically manipulate their offspring for specialized roles prior to birth, without feeling any moral remorse.

Perhaps the Greys (also) experiment with gene blending humans and/or other species with their gene pool to maintain new and diverse possibilities to enrich specialization options for their society/flight crews/civilization. The Greys might exhaust as much possibilities for specialized breeding as feasible from a particular gene combination before progressing onward to another inhabited world/universe/dimension to blend more gene possibilies for specialized breeding into their gene pool.

Because their perspective and behavior on reproduction/birth from the abuction accounts seems to be foreign to our thinking, it is possible the Greys might even possess some form of "worship" toward gene manipulation. The Greys might feel some sense of quasi-religious obligation for gene manipulation that seems foreign to homo sapien's reasoning. The Greys generally appear to want the abuctees feel like they are participating with the Greys for some higher purpose; however, it is possible the messages could be precautionary brain washing/mental anesthesia to ensure the abuctees reduce their resistance to the Grey's procedures.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 8th, 2007, 4:29pm

Abductees have described the "Greys" as feeling like burlap cloth when they were touched. I have interpeted this together with other abductee accounts to believe that the Greys are artificial constructions and not biological Beings such as Human Beings. The "pecking order" on the laboratory type UFOs appears to be; the lowest order or crew appears to be the Greys. The next higher order appears to be the taller Grey who is trained to perform genetic surgery. The Being who has been observed by abductees as being in charge is the Saurian, or Dragon Being. Why would an artificial intelligence creation such as the Greys want to replicate or modify themselves?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool










Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Sep 8th, 2007, 4:33pm

on Sep 8th, 2007, 4:29pm, timetraveler wrote:
The Being who has been observed by abductees as being in charge is the Saurian, or Dragon Being. Why would an artificial intelligence creation such as the Greys want to reproduce or modify themselves?
What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool


I agree that the greys are under the reptilian but I also believe that the smooth-skinned greens, the ones that look almost identical to greys however are green are above them all scientifically speaking. We just don't see pictures of them much anymore. They don't come down and visit, they stay onboard. They're the ones that confronted me during abduction but they weren't the ones that abducted me. I was a needle in the eye victim and they were the ones that performed it.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by SETI on Sep 10th, 2007, 1:58pm

on Sep 8th, 2007, 4:29pm, timetraveler wrote:
Abductees have described the "Greys" as feeling like burlap cloth when they were touched. I have interpeted this together with other abductee accounts to believe that the Greys are artificial constructions and not biological Beings such as Human Beings. The "pecking order" on the laboratory type UFOs appears to be; the lowest order or crew appears to be the Greys. The next higher order appears to be the taller Grey who is trained to perform genetic surgery. The Being who has been observed by abductees as being in charge is the Saurian, or Dragon Being. Why would an artificial intelligence creation such as the Greys want to reproduce or modify themselves?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool



It is possible some or all types of Greys may be a form of DNA/biological automatons that were initially created in a laboratory/industrial process. To reduce the developers' ongoing expenditure of resources for the Grey's manufacture, some or all types Greys could have been designed/programmed to "reproduce" following their initial generation's construction.



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by kdj997 on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:36pm

I've come to believe that we're like overgrown sea monkies. For some higher power and these beings are just that higher powers way of interacting with us. Like in the sims, you have an avator because you can't actually go in the game and control it. Kind of like that. I don't know how religious plays in to it, the old testament is just parables on how one should live their lives and the choices they should make, not meant to be taken as literal historic events. I've been thinking about that "Sea monkey" theory for awhile now and it seems to make the most sense. It answers the big bang conundrum even (cause and effect, every action needs an equal an opposite reaction so something would've had to cause the big bang. They say there was probably another universe here but thats the same problem, all of it leads up to something being here before nothing and the fact is thats simply not possible.)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by kdj997 on Sep 10th, 2007, 11:57pm

I was just thinking that maybe neanderthals were failed experiments as well and the homo sapian was the first attempted upgrade after whatever created the Neanderthals saw that they've reached their potential and will not go any further. That explains the lack of a missing link. Homo Sapians are just a whole new hybrid project. I really don't think we've topped out yet I think with enough time we're capable of achieving anything.... Off subject slightly but if I'm not mistaken Neanderthals did have a bigger brain capacity than homo sapians, didn't they? Not that the size of the brain equates intelligence, that's just a myth but I always found that interesting.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 11th, 2007, 3:48pm

I wouldn't exactly say that we a "failed experiment". I would say that we are at the last stage of the Human experiment and must take into account the continuous process of evolution. Also, whenever the Human race is threatened with extermination, some emergency measure have to be taken. I believe that there have been at least three Exoduses, and that we are being prepared for Exodus number four.
The first Exodus was the "Ice Age" and was necessary because the dinosaurs were too much of a predatory adversary of the early Human race. The second Exodus was the Destruction of Atlantis and the resultant "wobbling" of the Earth out of its orbit. The life forms had to be evacuated by UFOs until the planet was stabilized again in its orbit. The third Exodus was the "Great Flood" as recorded in the Bible, when again UFOs had to evacuate the life forms [Noah's Ark]. The fourth Exodus is due to happen around 2012, and will probably be a collision between a giant asteroid and this planet. Giant UFOs, capable of transporting millions of people are on "standby". That is why the laboratory UFOs are completing their abductions, in order to have the new hybrid "Human" race ready by the year 2010. These abductions have taken place during the past 200 years and will cease by the year 2010. The new hybrid race will be a combination of some of the physical characteristics and emotions of the "Human Being" together with the mental, psychic abilities and self-healing properties of the Saurians.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by SETI on Sep 11th, 2007, 4:10pm

on Sep 10th, 2007, 11:57pm, kdj997 wrote:
I was just thinking that maybe neanderthals were failed experiments as well and the homo sapian was the first attempted upgrade after whatever created the Neanderthals saw that they've reached their potential and will not go any further. That explains the lack of a missing link. Homo Sapians are just a whole new hybrid project. I really don't think we've topped out yet I think with enough time we're capable of achieving anything.... Off subject slightly but if I'm not mistaken Neanderthals did have a bigger brain capacity than homo sapians, didn't they? Not that the size of the brain equates intelligence, that's just a myth but I always found that interesting.


Size advantages for the brain depend upon which section of the brain is larger. Neanderthals showed greater development in the back of the brain, while Homo Sapiens shows greater development in the frontal lobes. Neanderthals accordingly had advantages involving sensory perception, such as as smell; however, Neanderthals lacked our degree of abstract and conceptual thinking. Thus, Neanderthal skeletons show as many broken bones as rodeo riders because they apparently caught all of their prey via hand as opposed to long distance weaponry created by Homo Sapiens. Also, Neanderthal caves lack the complex art displayed in caves inhabited by Homo Sapiens.

Neanderthals and Home Sapiens actually co-existed for dozens of thousands of years, before Neanderthals vanished. To date, there is no credible evidence of interbreeding between the species, which may prevented the development of a brain with both increased frontal lobes and back of the brain.

It is possible the Greys have mastered a method to manipulate the size of their frontal lobes to exceed Homo Sapiens so the Greys can achieve even greater conceptual and abstract thought. In contrast to the lack of interbreeding between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, there is evidence of attempted interbreeding by the Greys. Perhaps, they are trying to achieve a brain with the Greys' frontal lobes and some advantage our brain might offer.



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by matlivo on Sep 12th, 2007, 12:32am

Quote:
It is possible the Greys have mastered a method to manipulate the size of their frontal lobes...

hadn't considered that.
assumed that that's what they always looked like, (even after their suspected 'original' genetic manipulation).
and had not considered that possibilty it is an ongoing process of 'improvement'.
stands to reason


Quote:
..there is evidence of attempted interbreeding by the Greys. Perhaps, they are trying to achieve a brain with the Greys' frontal lobes and some advantage our brain might offer.


there must be an advantage.
(because, at face value, it would be like 'going backwards' if there wasn't.)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Tiger on Sep 20th, 2007, 9:05pm

I don't mean to sound rude but, this discussion about aliens=angels sounds sorta like stargate. In Stargate the humans ancestors were once Highly advanced. Infact, just read it from this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_%28Stargate%29 also, the greys are called asgard and are not evil in stargate, they watch over humanity.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 24th, 2007, 3:27pm

I agree with Tiger to some degree. I do not believe that the "Greys" of the UFOs are evil, or wish to hurt us. However, there are so many different and more advanced civilizations from planetary systems, as well as other dimensions. However, I do not subscribe to the voluminous explanations and descriptions of the "ancients"as given in the link in your last posting, and I believe that this website is very confusing and that a person accessing it will become more confused and become involved with a myriad of different names and titles, which will not result in understanding.
When you have made personal "contact' with UFOs, and have met ETs and have been privileged to have received, inspirational teachings from Angels, such as I have, then you're able to understand the Universe better.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Sep 25th, 2007, 09:20am

Humans by nature are filled with emotions. Our actions are often based on them. From how we act or react to something. There's also nothing that says emotions are the same or are universal. My best guess is the grays are indifferent, void of human emotion. My belief is they're here to study us. I also believe they are creating a hybrid race. I don't know if they're evil in the sense that we consider evil. But I wouldn't invite them over for drinks and dinner. Dan
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Sep 25th, 2007, 3:31pm

HEY GFORCE,
TAKING THESE GUYS TO DINNER EVEN IF THEY ARE PAYING THE BILL MIGHT NOT BE PRUDENT.
WE SEE THE SHORT GRAYS/GREYS AND THE TALL ONES WHOM SEEM TO PULL THEIR STRINGS...
I AM CURIOUS,JUST LIKE ANY GROUP, OF THE ONES THAT REMAIN ANONIMOUS...THE PROGRAMMERS AND WHAT IS THEIR AGENDA.THE PECKING ORDER AND THE MANY LEVELS WHICH MAY EXIST SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS.
WE SEE A LOT OF THE WORKER BEES OF THIS GALACTIC CREW BUT THE ONES BEHIND THE SCENES...ISSUING THE TELEPATHIC ORDERS...THESE ARE THE ONES WHOM NEED TO BE ASSESSED AS TO THEIR INTENTIONS.
HOPEFULLY THESE ELDERS SEE OR CAN RELATE TO OUR PROGRESS GIVEN THE PAST CENTURY AND I'M TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME LESS THAN ADMIRABLE EVENTS WHICH TOOK PLACE...
BUT ONE MUST KNOW THAT ANY CIVILIZATION DEALS WITH THOSE GROWING PANGS...LET'S JUST HOPE THOSE ELDERS WHOM IMPLEMENT THE RULES OF INGAGEMENT...SEE PROMISE FOR OUR RACE cool
SHALOM...ZETAR wink
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 25th, 2007, 3:37pm

I must agree with GForce. It is my belief and understanding that the "Greys" are artificially constructed intelligence machines, which are programmed to perform certain tasks, as well as to react to certain situations. The tall "grey" is the "surgeon" on board the laboratory ships, which performs the "splicing" and "grafting" of the genomes of the human and the Saurian to create the latest hybrid Human race. But who created the greys and supervises the creation of the hybrid race? Of course, it is the Saurian race who are the most advanced creators of "artificial intelligence" Beings and who are the designers and architects of the present Human race. These statements are based on actual conversations and communication between abductees and their abductors.

The true story of the creation of the Human race is more interesting and exciting than the limited perceptions of the biblical accounts. For instance, who authorized the Saurians to create the Human race and currently, to create the new hybrid Human race?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Sep 26th, 2007, 10:04am

on Sep 25th, 2007, 3:37pm, timetraveler wrote:
The true story of the creation of the Human race is more interesting and exciting than the limited perceptions of the biblical accounts. For instance, who authorized the Saurians to create the Human race and currently, to create the new hybrid Human race?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool


Religion is a touchy subject to many so I will say this is MY opinion on creation.

Irwyn if I understand what you are saying that we didn't evolve from apes and that we were created by an outside alien race. Then I agree! I don't think man evolved from apes without HELP. It's very possible that we are a hybrid mix. I say possible because I don't know for sure. Only what I feel inside.

The Bible's version of creation in MY opinion is a metaphor. When God takes Adam's rib to create Eve, he is taking Adam's DNA. Was Eve a clone and through gene manipulation changed to become a woman? Possibly! Or Eve was made from a female neanderthal and alien DNA. When the Bible was written along with other religious texts they was no way to explain science in detail at least as we're starting to understand it today. So its my belief that metaphors were used in the description of the accounts. However I could be wrong and this is just my opinion. Dan
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Raf on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:10pm

Interesting take on creation, Dan. The Bible as metaphor would certainly set off the fundamentalists. If you can interpret other parts of the Bible as a metaphor for the times in which it was written. To explain the unexplainable to a less civilized society, then the Bible begins to make more sense as a historical document instead of a document to be interpreted literally.

Which has always been a problem for me.

Raf

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by oljack666 on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:26pm

on Sep 26th, 2007, 10:04am, GForce wrote:
The Bible's version of creation in MY opinion is a metaphor. When God takes Adam's rib to create Eve, he is taking Adam's DNA.

My thoughts too. How about Mary getting pregnant but had never had sex? They never could have figured such out in those times, which tells me it was meant to be understood today (in the future).
Quote:
When the Bible was written along with other religious texts they was no way to explain science in detail at least as we're starting to understand it today. So its my belief that metaphors were used in the description of the accounts.

Certainly, which is why the book holds credence, not to mention it's works and being responsible for keeping man in check a few thousand years instilling fears they couldn't prove (hell, demons, etc) but were all taught to believe in. - and they did. Many still do today. It really makes one wonder if they were the designer of such. If they were, they would have had our best interest in mind when doing so.

You've heard me state before that mythology was nothing more then a precursor to religion. I really do believe that and think that they used it as a test project.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:21pm

I am so proud and honored to take part in this very intelligent discussion. I'm so glad to converse with intelligent people. The Bible, in my opinion, should be taken as a historical Journal and not as a literal translation. The proof of this is so obvious. According to the Bible, people lived to be 400 and 800 years old. We cannot take this literally. As an example of reporting unusual and historical events the Bible makes many references to UFOs, and in some cases, describes them as, "wheels within wheels", or "shining discs".

Re: "Adam's rib" reference in the Bible. If the Souls in the beginning,[Adam species], were mental androgyne and godlike, and this limited the Souls learning then it was decided by the "higher intelligence" to create a new experimental race of Human Beings. Therefore, the godlike mental androgyne Being called Adam was divided in half and made into two physical Beings and called Man and Woman and his godlike powers were removed. That is why Man and Woman are incomplete until they are joined together.
A good example of this, are Angels. They are androgyne and can assume the role of male or female. This is the higher level- we should aspire to. That's why we are literally the "fallen Angels" referred to in the Bibles. Regarding the "pecking order" of creation of the Human race, we must go to the beginning.
The "Creator" is not identifiable as an entity, but rather as pure intelligence energy itself. "It" has no sexual identity and cannot be described as male or female, or even androgyne. In order to learn about itself, it created and its creations became "mirrors" to itself.Therefore, the Creator should be considered not as separate, but as the sum total of the created and the uncreated.

At certain times there is an "orgasmic" explosion in the Universe and Souls and matter are created from energy. This process is called "crystallization" and this process has been bastardized by the church and called "Christ" and this "cosmic" process designation has been attached to the Human Being called Jesus. We are Souls which had been projected and individualized from the body of the Creator and our Souls are in the image of the Creator.

When our Souls were first separated from the body of the Creator and individualized we existed in energy worlds and we were energy Beings. But we had no knowledge, because we had no experience. Therefore, the Creator assigned the Angel Jehovah to teach these new Souls. Jehovah enlisted the aid of the Angels Satan to assist him. At this time Jehovah realized that these new Souls could not learn in their "omnipotent" state. Therefore, Jehovah gave the "Saurians" the authority and power to design physical bodies as vehicles for these Souls. Therefore, the energy Souls, known as Adam were chased out of the "Garden of Eden",["energy worlds"], and the physical Human race was introduced into the planet Earth. So as you see, our Souls were created by the Creator, but our bodies were designed and created by the Saurian race.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Raf on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:27pm

Irwyn,

That theory is a bit of philosophical leap further than I'm able to go at this time. It is certainly an interesting premise though.

My Brother is a Pastor for one of the big Mega Churches in South Texas. So you can imagine some of the discussions we have. He being a Bible literalist and me being kind of an agnostic.

I don't know the nature of "god". But I do think that that religion was developed over the centuries to give primitive societies a grasp on infinity by personalizing God and church. I cannot envision God as the "lil ol man with a beard sitting in a big chair passing judgement".

As for the Bible as a historical document? Which Bible are we talking about? It has been re-written by various competing religions at least 3 times..and maybe more.

Humanity , as a race, is not above rewriting history to suit the circumstances of the era. Its unfortunate that succeeding generations lost the ability to rationlize and question.

Raf (Richard)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by realchangex on Oct 4th, 2007, 1:55pm

Gforce said : "The Bible's version of creation in MY opinion is a metaphor." "So its my belief that metaphors were used in the description of the accounts. "

And isn't it still true? (if the truth were known) as an example the Towers coming down on 911, the collapse of the financial center is heralding something of the end of the financial world as we know it. Earth history is filled with metaphor if we are able to view it sometime. It may be the nature of Earth that everything is part of a huge metaphor or mirror of creation or illusion yet I believe it is still a part of the bigger equation, beauty and direction of life. Maybe that part is metaphor. Maybe we never needed to be so identified with the illusion. But hindsight is 20/20.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Sam on Oct 12th, 2007, 5:12pm

my encounter with various types ...........

Their shapes were micro- organism, insects, reptiles, Phoenix to Dragon like. Humanoid fingers appeared from a Martian(?) captain, middle-age knight, grasshopper robot, upright big bird to bobble shaped evil heads............

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http://spacelife-ufo.blogspot.com/

Sam
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by purr on Oct 13th, 2007, 12:47pm

on Sep 25th, 2007, 3:37pm, timetraveler wrote:
I must agree with GForce. It is my belief and understanding that the "Greys" are artificially constructed intelligence machines, which are programmed to perform certain tasks, as well as to react to certain situations. The tall "grey" is the "surgeon" on board the laboratory ships, which performs the "splicing" and "grafting" of the genomes of the human and the Saurian to create the latest hybrid Human race. But who created the greys and supervises the creation of the hybrid race? Of course, it is the Saurian race who are the most advanced creators of "artificial intelligence" Beings and who are the designers and architects of the present Human race. These statements are based on actual conversations and communication between abductees and their abductors.

The true story of the creation of the Human race is more interesting and exciting than the limited perceptions of the biblical accounts. For instance, who authorized the Saurians to create the Human race and currently, to create the new hybrid Human race?

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool


timetraveler,

By now there's a lot of popular knowledge about alien looks. Little guys with very big heads. Taller beings of the same body type. Grays looking like bipedal praying mantises. Short hooded drones, robotlike. Terrifying bug-eyed insectoids, another type of drone. And 'security'-type humanoids, resembling us, except for different eyes/pupils and an 'evil' appearance (MIB's?).

Do you know where I can find images depicting socalled Saurian aliens? I don't see a lot of reports and pictures of them.

Thanks.

purr
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Tiger on Oct 13th, 2007, 5:33pm

Thing is they probably aren't evil. We probably are so scared by their appearance, and the vibe they give off. Think of it like this, a child or pet goes to the doctors or vet, the child or pet is scared to death. The doctor/vet just want to help them, but they are so scared its useless. The greys may just be trying to help us, and its not their fault it hurts us. Infact, tehy may not even be able to communicate with humans.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by yayforadam on Oct 14th, 2007, 9:22pm

ok which ones are nice and which ones are bad??
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by purr on Oct 15th, 2007, 3:08pm

on Oct 13th, 2007, 5:33pm, Tiger wrote:
Thing is they probably aren't evil. We probably are so scared by their appearance, and the vibe they give off. Think of it like this, a child or pet goes to the doctors or vet, the child or pet is scared to death. The doctor/vet just want to help them, but they are so scared its useless. The greys may just be trying to help us, and its not their fault it hurts us. Infact, tehy may not even be able to communicate with humans.


on Oct 14th, 2007, 9:22pm, yayforadam wrote:
ok which ones are nice and which ones are bad??


Tiger and yayforadam,

Well, I was answering the question how they looked, and in a number of abduction stories they get described as having terrifying/evil looks. Of course an unappealing appearance is not evidence of an evil heart. You may be right, Tiger.

Nice versus Bad aliens? How do you find out someone is a bad person? From (very) bad behavior! Any alien, or group of aliens treating us with cruelty, or causing us serious harm/injury may be our enemy. Evil is a big word, and we must be careful before labeling a species so negatively.

purr


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by yayforadam on Oct 15th, 2007, 7:05pm

man BLAHH! 2012 we're all DEAD
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Revan on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:14pm

Dead? No. If anything does happen in 2012, it will be one of two things.

1. It will be the next stage in human evolution, in which alien life will finally show themselves and humans will be forced to accept it.

2. Jesus will return and take us to heaven, and the Earth shall be destoryed.

I tend to believe that we are in the End Times and something will happen very soon. Be prepared for anything.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 16th, 2007, 2:35pm

I am very happy to announce that my latest book entitled, "Other Dimensions of Reality: Are You Ready for Exodus 2012?" is being published by Filament book club as an electronic publication. This is a modern way of publishing books and requires a monitoring or reading device in order to read the books. The address is: http://www.filamentbookclub.com/biz/about.html This same publisher also publishes Fate magazine and UFO Magazine. I am very happy to finally have my book published to be read by people interested in psychic and UFOs.

“Prologue
This book is written with a great sense of urgency and its main purpose is to help to raise the consciousness level of as many people as possible. This must be accomplished before the year 2012, which is the time of the cataclysmic end of our civilization, and the relocation of some of the Souls to other dimensional Worlds. The level of our consciousness will determine our future incarnations.
This book is written for all persons who believe in Angels and accept that UFOs are real and who wish to understand the UFOs meaning and purpose. I believe that we are witnessing the greatest happening in our history and in this book I am attempting to define and explain the Creator and Creation and our place in the Universe.
This book describes the author's psychic and physical experiences with Angels and UFOs and reveals other dimensions of reality and existence and is intended to expand the reader's consciousness and awareness of the interaction of higher and more advanced Beings with our Planet.

Come, join me and together we shall explore the Universe”.

Irwyn Greif (Timetraveler)

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Lisa555 on Nov 6th, 2007, 1:01pm

I think, aliens is from future
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mooncatt on Nov 9th, 2007, 6:31pm

sorry all "new member here" and jumped in at the deep end. i do believe in UFOs and Aliens etc etc i mean come on......there a infinate solar systems out there with probably millions of planets that are capable of supporting life but are a million light years away from us.
what i dont get is WHY are all aliens based on or suggested to be based on the human body?? why does this have to be? this is the only thing that i have my doubts on....yes i believe UFOs have been sighted but im not so sure about sightings of ETs themselves, i find it quite ignorant that they are based on the human body at all, think of it.....if it doesnt have arms and legs what exactly would it look like then?? wouldnt it sound ridiculas and be laughed at that in god knows what year (or cuntury for that matter) the first person said "i saw an alien, it had 6 eyes, 10 legs and floated" huhhuhhuhhuh? yeah right...imagine the laughter.
it would be more believable if it was "based" on a humanoid form, i,e it had 2 arms and 2 legs but looked more advanced than us....get what im sayinghuh
UFOs are hard to be seen at the best of times let alone pictured on camera in the first place.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tomcaz on Nov 9th, 2007, 9:38pm

Excellent reply. I sometimes find myself thinking the same thing. Why are aliens often reported as being humanoid? Maybe the bilateral form - two eyes, two arms, two legs, etc. is a process of evolution that can occur elsewhere, like on another planet. I think there is an equation which says that given a certain set of circumstances a similar end result can be achieved, namely the humanoid form. So if there exists a planet, similar to our own, through the process of evolution, life would develop two arms, two legs, two eyes, a brain and so on.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Nov 9th, 2007, 11:24pm

VERY GOOD QUESTION!
WHY IS THAT IMAGE SO PERVASIVE?THE MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD HAS SPOON FED US THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SHALOM...ZETAR

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Truether on Nov 10th, 2007, 10:37am

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Tiger on Nov 15th, 2007, 5:18pm

Well the ones that abduct me look the same as yougrin guess:

Greys: Exactly the same

Felines: well like lion+a human

Nordic: Same as reported

The strangers: Okay, these guys are just weird. They are these pinkish, floating head like things. They move things telepathically and communicate via telepathy. They have a pale skin, look to be about 5ft, and have large eyes. The eyes are giant black saucer like. Its not their appearance that scares me, its their thoughts, they aren't from our dimension, and they act and speak with hate.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ashiana24 on Nov 17th, 2007, 1:35pm

on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:14pm, Revan wrote:
Dead? No. If anything does happen in 2012, it will be one of two things.

1. It will be the next stage in human evolution, in which alien life will finally show themselves and humans will be forced to accept it.


Revan, I have heard a lot lately about the end times. One physicist even ventured to say "Enjoy the next five years of your life because that will be the end of us all."

Although we've had catastrophic events occur in our distant past that have caused annihilation on our planet, on the other hand, I've heard psychics also say recently that in 2012 we will not have total annihilation; rather, there will be a total shift in consciousness for the human race with better things to come.

I guess the only thing to do is try to enjoy each day and be the best person we can be as that date: 2012 approaches.

http://ashiana.conforums.com/index.cgi

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~ Ashiana
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Nov 18th, 2007, 7:27pm

Ashiana said:
"Revan, I have heard a lot lately about the end times. One physicist even ventured to say "Enjoy the next five years of your life because that will be the end of us all."

Although we've had catastrophic events occur in our distant past that have caused annihilation on our planet, on the other hand, I've heard psychics also say recently that in 2012 we will not have total annihilation; rather, there will be a total shift in consciousness for the human race with better things to come.

I guess the only thing to do is try to enjoy each day and be the best person we can be as that date: 2012 approaches."

I have heard the end times predictions, and the comments from the psychics, but haven't come across one from a physicist yet. I wonder what his thoughts were? Was it because of our destructive tendencies to the planet, or the wars that destroy people?
I think the advice given in this quoted post is the best....enjoy each day, be the best we can be to each other and if there is something we can do to heal the damage we have done to our home, then by all means take those steps. Live each and every day to the fullest.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by gathesis on Dec 2nd, 2007, 11:56pm

I had one of the most vivid and disturbing dreams last week.

I dreamed I was in my home and three aliens approached the house. One adult, two children a boy and girl. They were rolling around the ground and on the trees, swirling around the pines in the neatest motion. Then they came to the house and looked into the window. My daughter was with me and I picked up my camera and took three photos. They were sort of tall, skinny, reptilian with green/yellowish skin, resembled a turtle shell camoflauge like, tiny sharp teeth. Anyways, the pictures came out, and I noticed they had like puffy red lips above their eyes. So I remember thinking, how cool, I have photos! Then, they left and went to the back of our yard through the trees.

They came back. There was a knock at the door, the man had long fingers and knocked and opened the door. I thought oh no. He told me to erase the photos off my digital, I couldn't keep them. So I did. Then I asked if I could touch their skin. They let me. They had dots surrounding their ears. I wasn't afraid.

ANyways, it was such a detailed dream, I called my dad and told him about it.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by VISITOR on Dec 3rd, 2007, 2:54pm

on Nov 9th, 2007, 11:24pm, ZETAR wrote:
VERY GOOD QUESTION!
WHY IS THAT IMAGE SO PERVASIVE?THE MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD HAS SPOON FED US THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SHALOM...ZETAR


I would guess that the "human form", i.e. biped was the ideal form. Upright body, thus being able to see further than a four legged creature. Eyes at front of head to see any approaching dangers. Arms with fingers at the end for manipulating and using tools etc. Ears at side of head to hear anything coming from the side. Do I need to go on? think about it, what other form would be better for dealing with life on Earth and all we have to put up with?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Dec 3rd, 2007, 4:07pm

AVISITOR,
I AGREE THAT OUR EVOLUTION AND ADAPTATION TO THIS ENVIROMENT HAS BEEN UNIQUE AND QUITE NECESSARY.
BUT I DO WONDER WHETHER OR WHY AN INTELLIGENT SPECIES COULD NOT EXIST IN THE FORM OF A GAS OR ENERGY WITH NO FORM OR SOME TYPE OF INTELLIGENT PLASMA ENTITY RATHER THAN BI-LATERALLY SYMETRICAL CARBON UNITS? wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Dec 3rd, 2007, 11:07pm

Zetar

When we were viewing many UFOs over our home we also noticed small b alls of light....that looked much smaller than a tennis ball whiz over our heads leaving a vapour trail that only lasted a nanosecond.... I pondered what they could have been and realised that they must be energy beings. I also believe many of the UFO we see are energy beings that can change their form. This is not "way out there" when you consider that we are energy beings inhabiting a physical body.

Luvey
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Dec 4th, 2007, 09:19am

on Dec 3rd, 2007, 11:07pm, Luvey wrote:
Zetar

I also believe many of the UFO we see are energy beings that can change their form. This is not "way out there" when you consider that we are energy beings inhabiting a physical body.

Luvey


Actually Luvey that makes perfect sense. How else can someone explain seeing aliens go through solid objects such as walls? I've often wondered if most abductions are of the spirit. But them you hear of the stories of physical experiments taking place on the abductees who have floated through walls up into the alien craft. Those stories are the ones I have a hard problem understanding. Since I've never been abducted nor have I seen a UFO its hard for me to fathom this. I believe it's possible... I guess. But unless you experience it, then it's impossible to completely understand. Maybe one day ET will land here in Alabama and beam me up. It's a chance I'm willing to take. "I know that sounds pretty stupid but I never said I was smart!" laugh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Dec 4th, 2007, 9:02pm

Gforce wrote
Quote:
Actually Luvey that makes perfect sense. How else can someone explain seeing aliens go through solid objects such as walls? I've often wondered if most abductions are of the spirit. But them you hear of the stories of physical experiments taking place on the abductees who have floated through walls up into the alien craft. Those stories are the ones I have a hard problem understanding. Since I've never been abducted nor have I seen a UFO its hard for me to fathom this. I believe it's possible... I guess. But unless you experience it, then it's impossible to completely understand. Maybe one day ET will land here in Alabama and beam me up. It's a chance I'm willing to take.


How many people speak of walking through walls, travelling up through floors in a multi storey hospital, or going out closed windows when they have a NDE. Nearly all do. Or floating near the ceiling watching what is happening with their bodies. I believe the difference between aliens and humans is that they are aware of their powers and use them. The majority of humans listen to the voices of their doubts, fears and insecurities. The voices: Doubts - I don't believe that, you are weird, prove it, I will believe it when I see it…..etc. Fears - what if there are demons, what if I cannot get back to my body, what if I get lost…etc Insecurities - What if everyone thinks I am crazy, will my friends still talk to me, am I crazy? I could list a lot of voices that deter us from our path to knowledge and understanding. But whatever doubts, fears or insecurities we humans have the enigma still remains.

Aliens can spirit walk and manifest wherever they want to….so that means humans can too. We are beings of energy too. There are native shamans on this earth that can draw your spirit from your body and speak to your spirit. The spirit contains all….. They just use energy to manifest the body wherever they want to, to do what ever they want to. There is much more to us than meets the eye.

Bonehead's cue……………. grin

GForce wrote
Quote:
"I know that sounds pretty stupid but I never said I was smart!"


I think your a hell of a lot smarter than the average bear BooBoo.... grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Dec 4th, 2007, 9:44pm

PEN AND GFORCE,
THERE ARE THOSE WHOM THINK THAT THE HUMAN BODY IS MOST CUMBERSOME.FURTHERMORE,OUR EVOLUTION SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD MAY EVOLVE TO WHERE WE BECOME MORE OF AN ENERGY BASED HUMANOID.
IF YOU STOP AND THINK OF THE NUMBER OF PARTS FROM EVOLUTION WHICH HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED.
THE NEXT THING TO GO THEORETICALLY IS THE LITTLE TOE.
NONETHELESS,PLASMA INTELLIGENCE SEEMS TO BE A HIGHER FORM AT SOME POINT.
HOWEVER,QUITE A JUMP AT PRESENT BUT WE STRIDE WITH ASTRAL TRAVELLING AND NUMEROUS ASPECTS OF ENERGY PROJECTION THAT THE AFOREMENTIONED SEEMS NATURAL IN OUR EVOLUTION.
I'VE OFTEN WONDERED IF ATLANTIS OR OTHER ANCIENTS STUMBLED OR RATHER DISCOVERED THIS OR MOREOVER PROGRESSED TO THIS LEVEL OF EXISTANCE.
CERTAINLY FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Dec 4th, 2007, 11:01pm

on Dec 4th, 2007, 9:44pm, ZETAR wrote:
THE NEXT THING TO GO THEORETICALLY IS THE LITTLE TOE.


I sue hope hope not! Then which toe would go wee, wee, wee all the way home! And which toe would go to the market? cheesy The little toe is our friend!!! Save the toe! Sorry couldn't resist!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Dec 5th, 2007, 09:10am

Yesterday at 10:44pm, ZETAR wrote:
THE NEXT THING TO GO THEORETICALLY IS THE LITTLE TOE.

GForce wrote
Quote:
I sure hope hope not! Then which toe would go wee, wee, wee all the way home! And which toe would go to the market? The little toe is our friend!!! Save the toe! Sorry couldn't resist!


I hate to tell you this Dan, but little toes seem to be getting shorter and shorter….. cool
I guess it will have to be the little piggy who stayed home…..hahhahaha grin

I suppose I could handle not having a little toe, but not having a nose….eeeeekkkkk shocked that would freak me out…..oh! vanity of vanities…. laugh

In actual fact there was a study done on why so many young people are needing braces on their teeth these days and they discovered that the shapes of mouths are changing with evolution….. I have grave fears that in a few thousands years we are going to be pretty ugly little critters like the aliens…..

Luvey

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 6th, 2007, 3:19pm

These are two excerpts from my latest book, entitled, “Other Dimensions”.
" I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a “high point” in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.

I do not have to prove to anybody that UFOs and ETs exist. To me, that is "a given". I think we should try to understand, who they are, what they are and why they are visiting us? Also, to me it is so ridiculous to waste time on researching what ETs look like. Different contactees have reported different shapes and forms. You are not seeing the real ET. You are seeing a projection or a hologram or an entity that is capable of "shape shifting". The clothing of the human mind will not "fit" these interdimensional beings. Try to raise your minds and your consciousness to think on their level, not yours."

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 16th, 2007, 08:53am

I have just been notified that my book entitled," "Other Dimensions of Reality" as been electronically published by "Filamentbooks" which is an electronic book club. I am also in the process of having this same book, which has been "rearranged" and "retitled", published as a 6" x 9" paperback book by a local publisher. This paperback book is entitled, "Other Dimensions", and should be available shortly. I am very excited about this book, and I believe that this book is my greatest literary achievement.
The link to this electronic book is, http://www.filamentbooks.com/scripts/WebObjects.exe/eBookstore.woa/wa/find?assetID=1740

"Stay tuned", "Irwyn Greif.PS. I recommend the paperback version.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Dec 16th, 2007, 3:22pm

TIMETRAVELER,
I'LL BE LOOKING FOR YOUR BOOK.
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD READ FOR ME.
YOU ARE RIGHT WHEREIN ONE QUESTIONING THE APPEARANCE ONLY DEFINES A SPECIES...IT FAILS TO DEFINE ONES INTENT AND THOSE WHOM GROUP ALL TOGETHER MERELY BY THEIR OUTWARD APPEARANCE STUMBLES TO THE LEVEL JUDGING A BOOK BY IT'S COVER...TRAGICALLY IN THIS DAY AND TIME THERE ARE STILL THOSE WHOM STILL RESORT TO SUCH A TRITE UNDERSTANDING OF SUCH.
I LOOK FOR ONES ACTIONS AND SEE IF THEY SUPPORT ONES WORDS BEFORE I CAST AN OPINION ON ONES INTENT AND CHARACTER wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonehead on Dec 27th, 2007, 5:15pm

on Dec 6th, 2007, 3:19pm, timetraveler wrote:
I do not have to prove to anybody that UFOs and ETs exist. To me, that is "a given". I think we should try to understand, who they are, what they are and why they are visiting us? Also, to me it is so ridiculous to waste time on researching what ETs look like. Different contactees have reported different shapes and forms. You are not seeing the real ET. You are seeing a projection or a hologram or an entity that is capable of "shape shifting". The clothing of the human mind will not "fit" these interdimensional beings. Try to raise your minds and your consciousness to think on their level, not yours."

What do you think? Irwyn


Irwyn,

I think you hit the nail on the head! cool

Consciousness: It is what's for life.

Want to talk about what aliens look like? Consult your consciousness. Want to believe in evil reptilian usurpers and duplicitous "illuminati" despots? Consult your consciousness. Want to believe in nuts and bolts flying saucers that crash in remote desert loacations? Consult your consciousness. Want to believe in fairies and gnomes, flowers, gnatcatchers and butterflies? Consult your consciousness.

You cannot even conjure up nothing at all without consulting your consciousness, because nothing is also a "thing" we form with our consciousness.

So, if this is true (and you cannot figure out whether or not it is without consulting your consciousness), then doesn't it pay to take care of your consciousness? Your whole life is shaped by that thing!

And, so is your reality. This is why it is incumbent upon us to become MORE conscious. Filling our minds with pictures of things we don't know or understand won't get us there. Filling our minds with irrational fears and nefarious plots DEFINITELY won't get us there.

But maintaining an open mind and thinking positively will. Don't worry about what is on the other person's plate. You have no control over them. The open mind is the only mind that will recieve new information. That is because the mind that thinks it "knows" stuff is already made up. Reality may or may not be along for that ride.... rolleyes

Just take care of your mind. Because a mind is a terrible thing to fill up with junk thinking.

Bonehead


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 9th, 2008, 12:10pm

Thank you for your intelligent replies. It is encouraging to find some individual thinking in the "herd mentality." It is very difficult to understand the meanings and the reasons for creation, and for the creation of the human race. We have to set up a base of logic before we can pursue the unraveling of these mysteries. First, the human brain was purposely designed and constructed to be limited and to rely upon the five senses and the conscious mind. This is like relying on the surface reality of the five senses and upon the database of the conscious mind computer. What is permanent? What is temporary? What is real? What is the illusion of life and death?

I have tried to simplify some of these answers in order to make my book "human being friendly". Religionists and scholars and scientists and intellectuals have pondered these mysteries as being complicated and unable to be deciphered. This is not true. The answers are simple and "consciousness raising". Some of the material in my book describes my own personal psychic experiences. Other material in my book are conclusions and theory based upon communication with Angels and UFOs. You as the individual discernor will have to make your own individual determination.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 20th, 2008, 1:07pm

I am very pleased to announce that my latest book entitled, "Other Dimensions" is now listed at Barnes and Noble.

Stay tuned, Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by thepower on Jan 21st, 2008, 11:34am

A ufologist worked out a way that you could tell what the aliens from each planet (if it were inhabitable) would look like. He's got loads of drawings of ones he has worked out. Unfortuantly I dont know how to do it. But the simplist way is to just study a planet and then work out the best thing that could survive there. take venus for example it would probibly be some sort of eel like creature with a hard heat proof exoskeliton. In less words just use your brain! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 21st, 2008, 3:39pm

I am very excited to post this Barnes and Noble link to the catalog listing of "Other Dimensions".

Please click on this link to open up this listing. Thank you, Irwyn Greif


http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780979675270&itm=1

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by wim on Jan 26th, 2008, 09:54am

on Aug 7th, 2007, 03:44am, DrDil wrote:
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Late to the party, I know.

1. Haven't seen before (see 3).
2. Creator-admitted SFX pic
3. Strieber archetype ET.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DrDil on Jan 26th, 2008, 11:16am

on Jan 26th, 2008, 09:54am, wim wrote:
Late to the party, I know.

1. Haven't seen before (see 3).
2. Creator-admitted SFX pic
3. Strieber archetype ET.

on Aug 9th, 2007, 09:19am, DarkHand wrote:
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The alien on the far right of the 3 posted by dr dil bears a very similar resemblence to the one(s) encountered by Whitley Streiber. I read his book 'Communion' and he describes them exactly like the one dr dil posted.

Above is a drawing of the creature encountered by Whitley and the one posted by dr dil.
I put them side by side and as shown above and the resemblance is uncanny.


on Aug 9th, 2007, 11:16pm, Nephilim wrote:
About the middle picture of the original set posted, you can find more pics of the same from the FX studio creation, or so it was labed when I saved this photo:

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smiley

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonehead on Jan 26th, 2008, 12:53pm

Hey Doc,

I have never been able to accept Strieber's alien or the sculpture you have associated with it her, purely on structural grounds.

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I have added a circular line to your pic to indicate an approximate orbit for the eyes. You will notice that it does not fit "comfortably" inside the skull. Also, the eyes would literally "bump" into each other.

Lastly, the low cranium does not figure in with any description of the grays I have seen, which imply just the opposite: a bulbous and oversized cranium. I find this sculpture (and I am convinced that is what it is) to be the least convincing of the three posted by Wim above.

Bonehead

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by motorcyclerick on Feb 5th, 2008, 11:01pm

on Jan 26th, 2008, 12:53pm, bonehead wrote:
Hey Doc,

I have never been able to accept Strieber's alien or the sculpture you have associated with it her, purely on structural grounds.

User Image

I have added a circular line to your pic to indicate an approximate orbit for the eyes. You will notice that it does not fit "comfortably" inside the skull. Also, the eyes would literally "bump" into each other.

Lastly, the low cranium does not figure in with any description of the grays I have seen, which imply just the opposite: a bulbous and oversized cranium. I find this sculpture (and I am convinced that is what it is) to be the least convincing of the three posted by Wim above.

Bonehead


I wish I could remember where I read it (I have read SO MUCH lately) but the photo on the right is actually an artist's rendition based on a description given by a witness, and the other on the left is supposedly a photo, which the 2 were posted side by side to show the uncanny similarities between them.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Feb 18th, 2008, 09:42am

Dear friends, I am finally able to get back into ufocasebook. I had a problem for several weeks with my username and password but BJ fixed it. Good to be back. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Feb 28th, 2008, 4:46pm

You can probably realize this truth because it is so simple and logical;
If we were able to see or perceive more dimensional worlds than our own three dimensional physical world simultaneously, we would go insane on the spot. Our human brain and consciousness is limited to our conscious mind and our five senses.
However, when we are asleep or in a deep state of meditation we can access our subconscious mind and this is almost unlimited in its abilities to comprehend other dimensions of reality and other dimensional worlds. When we die our conscious mind is erased together with our physical body and our physical five senses. This is because what we have programmed into our conscious mind database refers only to this physical world and when we die we change frequency to a nonphysical world. Therefore, we don't take this unnecessary "luggage" with us when we die.

Can you comprehend that within your subconscious mind is your link to the Creator and creation and your "magic key" that unlocks the "greater reality" of your existence and identity!!!


What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Feb 29th, 2008, 4:59pm

Whatever information you have stored in your conscious mind belongs to this life and is of no use when you change frequency to go to a nonphysical world. The whole purpose of existence is to learn understanding. You can only learn by experience. All of your experiences are stored and integrated into your super consciousness, or subconscious mind.
What use is it to speak French or Spanish or Russian or Italian in a nonphysical world? What you have learned in order to survive your environment of this physical world is temporary and only has importance in this particular physical world, at this particular time of your life. Emotional memories including relationships with people are stored in your subconscious mind. They are not lost because they are part of your learning by experience. However, names or dates or physical identifications are not remembered because they do not add to your sum of understanding. We have graduated from the school of Karma and Reincarnation and we must now go into a non-physical "body" to learn a more angelic type of teaching. We can still read the Akashic records but they pertain only to our physical cycle of lives as physical human beings. Be glad that you're in the graduation class!!!

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 3rd, 2008, 09:58am

I am posting a link from Amazon for my latest book," Other Dimensions" which gives a description of the book. I am very excited about this book and I hope it helps the readers to understand some of the profound mysteries of life. Irwyn






http://www.amazon.com/Other-Dimensions-Irwyn-Greif/dp/0979675278/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203609929&sr=1-1
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 4th, 2008, 06:52am

Good day. This is my first posting. I am an English expatriate living in Argentina.

I would like to bring to the attention of the forum a close encounter of the third kind reported at 0130 hrs on Wednesday 10 November 2007 at Irene, near Coronel Dorrego, a town in the south of the province of Buenos Aires. (This location is within 20 miles of a famous sighting in 1973 in which a farm labourer experienced confirmed physical changes after a close encounter).

At the time and date specified above, police were called to the farm of Felipe Fernandez after reports of a white light circlings his fields.

Several police cars were sent to investigate. Lieutenant Luis Bracamonte and Sub-Lt Osvaldo Orellano came across the silhouette of a man "about 80 cms tall, large head prominent grey eyes, skin greenish colour, otherwise human features."

The man appeared to be startled and ran towards a corner of the field where a "craft" was parked. After three companions joined him the four small men entered the craft which took off rapidly. Initially it showed as a brilliant white light, this was then replaced by a green halo and a strong smell of sulphur and a thunderous roar.

The taking-off was witnessed by two police officers in another car. The incident is given high credibility in Argentina because of the status of the witnesses.

Full reports in Spanish are available on various sites. (Enter "Luis Bracamonte 10.11.2007" (and not 11.10.2007) in Yahoo Search for example).



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 4th, 2008, 11:12am

HEY OHRDRUF...BUENOS DIAS,
GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD SIR...MANY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ACCOUNT OF THIS SIGHTING ALONG WITH A TRANSLATION...
LOOK TO SEE MORE POSTS FROM YOU ...EST POSSIBLE?...POR FAVOR.
HASTA LUEGO MI AMIGO!
SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 4th, 2008, 11:13am

HEY OHRDRUF...BUENOS DIAS,
GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD SIR...MANY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ACCOUNT OF THIS SIGHTING ALONG WITH A TRANSLATION...
LOOK TO SEE MORE POSTS FROM YOU ...EST POSSIBLE?...POR FAVOR.
HASTA LUEGO MI AMIGO!
SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 4th, 2008, 11:21am

Dear Zetar

Thank you for your welcome. I have modified the original posting with more information. If a full translation of the Spanish version is required please advise.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 4th, 2008, 1:01pm

HEY OHRDRUF,
YEAH...I COULD PROBABLY READ SUCH ...BUT MANY WOULD NOT GRASP WITHOUT YOUR TRANSLATION....
IF YOU HAVE THE TIME SINCE REALLY YOU ARE OUR POINT GUY IN ARGENTINA...YOU COULD BREAK SAID REPORT INTO SECTIONS AND POST AS TRANSLATIONS ARE COMPLETED...
MANY OF THE SLANG WORDS AND IDEOSYNCRACIES WOULD BE CAUGHT BY YOU AND WOULD BENEFIT OUR SITE TREMENDOUSLY...WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A MEMBER AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS wink
HASTA LUEGO...
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 4th, 2008, 1:02pm

HEY OHRDRUF,
YEAH...I COULD PROBABLY READ SUCH ...BUT MANY WOULD NOT GRASP WITHOUT YOUR TRANSLATION....
IF YOU HAVE THE TIME SINCE REALLY YOU ARE OUR POINT GUY IN ARGENTINA...YOU COULD BREAK SAID REPORT INTO SECTIONS AND POST AS TRANSLATIONS ARE COMPLETED...
MANY OF THE SLANG WORDS AND IDEOSYNCRACIES WOULD BE CAUGHT BY YOU AND WOULD BENEFIT OUR SITE TREMENDOUSLY...WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A MEMBER AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS wink
HASTA LUEGO...
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 5th, 2008, 07:13am

For the fullest reports in English, translated from the Spanish, please go to Yahoo Search and enter:

"Luis Bracamonte 10.11.2007"
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 5th, 2008, 08:20am

HEY OHRDRUF,
I FOUND THIS REPORT ON THE BRACAMONTE INCIDENT. IS THIS A REASONABLE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED?

Location. Near Irene, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Date: November 7 2007
Time: 0130am
Two police officers, Luis Bracamonte, & Osvaldo Orellano, were patrolling this rural area in their trucks near the Felipe Fernandez ranch. At one point they stopped the truck while Orellano exited the vehicle and walked around the area while Bracamonte remained inside the vehicle re-charging his telephone card with his mobile phone. While looking at his phone Bracamonte notices a small light, which was approaching their location at fairly high speed. Suddenly the light became much larger and brighter, now resembling a large “gray truck”. At the same time Bracamonte sees a small figure which at first he thought was a dog, but as he looked more carefully he realized it was a small humanoid figure about 80cm in height, with a large head, large gray prominent eyes, and greenish in color. He then tried to dial Orellano’s cell number, who was patrolling nearby, but all he could get in the receiver was static. He then sees three more humanoid beings exiting the large grayish luminous “vehicle”. Two were similar to the first one he saw while the third was larger and more robust. At the same time he heard Orellano which was apparently watching the same spectacle, yelling in panic. Immediately the four humanoids ran back into the object which took off and quickly disappeared towards the north, leaving behind a white glow which disappeared leaving behind a green glowing mist and strong sulfur like odor. As the craft left it emitted a thunder-clap type sound. Two other police officers, Santiago Walter and Walter Carbajal who were patrolling that same night near the village of Nicolas Descalzi watched a large white light suddenly approach and engulf their vehicle. The engine stopped and their cell phones would not work. Looking up they then both saw a powerful white light which briefly hovered and then disappeared in a flash. Around the same time several residents from the village of Oriente watched a strange glow in the sky in the direction of Irene. And a husband and wife traveling towards Marisol were approached by a white light from behind which also engulfed their vehicle.

HC addendum
Source: Guillermo D. Gimenez---Argentina quoting La Voz del Pueblo
http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm
Type: B

THANKS FOR POINTING US IN THIS DIRECTION...MUCHO GRACIAS wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 5th, 2008, 08:22am

HEY OHRDRUF,
I FOUND THIS REPORT ON THE BRACAMONTE INCIDENT. IS THIS A REASONABLE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED?

Location. Near Irene, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Date: November 7 2007
Time: 0130am
Two police officers, Luis Bracamonte, & Osvaldo Orellano, were patrolling this rural area in their trucks near the Felipe Fernandez ranch. At one point they stopped the truck while Orellano exited the vehicle and walked around the area while Bracamonte remained inside the vehicle re-charging his telephone card with his mobile phone. While looking at his phone Bracamonte notices a small light, which was approaching their location at fairly high speed. Suddenly the light became much larger and brighter, now resembling a large “gray truck”. At the same time Bracamonte sees a small figure which at first he thought was a dog, but as he looked more carefully he realized it was a small humanoid figure about 80cm in height, with a large head, large gray prominent eyes, and greenish in color. He then tried to dial Orellano’s cell number, who was patrolling nearby, but all he could get in the receiver was static. He then sees three more humanoid beings exiting the large grayish luminous “vehicle”. Two were similar to the first one he saw while the third was larger and more robust. At the same time he heard Orellano which was apparently watching the same spectacle, yelling in panic. Immediately the four humanoids ran back into the object which took off and quickly disappeared towards the north, leaving behind a white glow which disappeared leaving behind a green glowing mist and strong sulfur like odor. As the craft left it emitted a thunder-clap type sound. Two other police officers, Santiago Walter and Walter Carbajal who were patrolling that same night near the village of Nicolas Descalzi watched a large white light suddenly approach and engulf their vehicle. The engine stopped and their cell phones would not work. Looking up they then both saw a powerful white light which briefly hovered and then disappeared in a flash. Around the same time several residents from the village of Oriente watched a strange glow in the sky in the direction of Irene. And a husband and wife traveling towards Marisol were approached by a white light from behind which also engulfed their vehicle.

HC addendum
Source: Guillermo D. Gimenez---Argentina quoting La Voz del Pueblo
http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm
Type: B

THANKS FOR POINTING US IN THIS DIRECTION...MUCHO GRACIAS wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 5th, 2008, 09:24am

This Argentinian incident is very interesting. As usual the ETs controlled this environment and made radio communication impossible. They also controlled the minds of the people to prevent themselves from being captured or harmed. I was particularly fascinated by the loud clap of thunder sound when this UFO departed. This is similar to the sound that a jet plane makes when it surpasses the sound barrier. It may also be the sound of a space vehicle jumping into a hyper space or other dimension as it exits.

I think that we should make more of an effort to try to explain these reported sightings with our theories and conjectures. Let's try to solve these puzzles instead of just reading about them. After all the contributors to UFO casebook have had exposure to UFOs and ETs therefore our combined intelligence and experience surpasses the military.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Orenshii on Mar 5th, 2008, 7:46pm

got this in english?

addendum
Source: Guillermo D. Gimenez---Argentina quoting La Voz del Pueblo
http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm
Type: B

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 6th, 2008, 11:54am

Another report gives more details:

http://ourstrangeplanet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&-Itemid=60


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 7th, 2008, 2:44pm

I am especially intrigued by the Argentinians sighting regarding the strong smell of sulfur. For hundreds of years stories have been written about devil like beings who appeared with evil intentions and had a strong smell of sulfur. All of these creatures came from another dimension, probably the fourth dimension, and they all had this feature in common. I am posting one of my real life experiences to illustrate this point that all of these creatures were ETs from other dimensions. Notice the sulfur factor in my experience.

I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.

This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks.

Evidently my cry for help was heard.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 8th, 2008, 10:48am

An earlier Argentine close encounter of the third kind in the same area as the Bracamonte sighting is quoted hereunder. The available transcript of the interview with the witness is 21 pages long, and I have included only a brief report plus the dialogue regarding the smell perceived, to which the previous correspondent drew attention.

SOURCE: Antonio Las Heras: "Informe sobre los visitantes extraterrestres y sus naves voladoras", Buenos Aires, 1974: Argentine national newspapers "La Voz del Pueblo", editions of 12 and 17 January 1973, police files, Tres Arroyos comisaría.

DATE AND PLACE OF OCCURRENCE: 2230 hrs, 29 December 1972 at Tres Arroyos, province of Buenos Aires (about 20 miles from Irene): on open land near the river Orellano on which was situated a brick furnace where the witness was a watchman.

WITNESS: Don Ventura Maceiras, a mechanic aged 73 years.

THE SIGHTING: The witness heard "the sound of bees" or "rather the sound of a chain saw when it is switched on but not cutting" and saw the craft land 15 metres away. In the report he describes it as being metallic and rather elongated with two portholes. He approached the craft and through one of these portholes he saw an occupant whom he described. After the parties had eyed each other for a brief period, the craft then took off.

THE SMELL:
Ventura Maceiras (VM): All I can tell you is that their fuel is nothing we know of because of its smell.

Vogh (interviewer): What sort of smell?

VM: You know the smell of arnica?

Vogh: The poultice you apply for muscular pain?

VM: Yes, that...well, a mixture of arnica and sulphur. When a tree is struck by lightning, you get this smell of arnica and sulphur...a powerful odour. Or a spark in a circuit gives of this smell of burnt sulphur, that was what I smelt. For that reason I think these people have mastered electricity...

OTHER OBSERVATIONS: After this encounter it is recorded that the 73 year old Maceiras grew a third set of teeth. His hair was replenished. He reported that he considered his intelligence was increasing.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 8th, 2008, 10:37pm

THE LOGICAL ITEM OR INERT GAS WHICH IS PREVALENT WITH THISE SIGHTINGS...USO'S...UFO'S IN OR NEAR VOLCANIC ACTIVITY,ETC,ETC,...IS METHANE GAS.
ABUNDANT IN ALL AREAS MENTIONED AN IT APPEARS THAT SAME IS JUXTAPOSED IN CERTAIN OFF-WORLD CRAFT...
WHAY SAY YOU?
I MUST SAY...ORHDRUF...YOU'VE BROUGHT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THE FORUM...MANY THINGS COME TO MIND REGARDING YOUR EXPOSURE TO DOCUMENTS TRANSCRIBED...ONE THING WHICH I AM CURIOUS SINCE YOU STATED THAT THE NEW WEAPON WAS NOT THE ATOMIC BOMB...WAS IT TESLA BASED?...OR CAN YOU DISCUSS THE AFOREMENTIONED...
THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT GERMAN UNDERGROUND HIGHWAY/TRANSPORT TO URAGUAY,PARAGUAY,ARGENTINA...I'VE SPENT MUCH TIME IN BRASIL(BRAZIL) AND HAVE FRIENDS WHOM RESIDE IN THE AFOREMENTIONED AND FIND THEIR INFLUENCE TO BE QUITE DISTINCT IN EACH AREA...NOTHING MORE SHOULD BE SAID wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 8th, 2008, 10:39pm

THE LOGICAL ITEM OR INERT GAS WHICH IS PREVALENT WITH THISE SIGHTINGS...USO'S...UFO'S IN OR NEAR VOLCANIC ACTIVITY,ETC,ETC,...IS METHANE GAS.
ABUNDANT IN ALL AREAS MENTIONED AND IT APPEARS THAT SAME IS JUXTAPOSED IN CERTAIN OFF-WORLD CRAFT...
WHAY SAY YOU?
I MUST SAY...ORHDRUF...YOU'VE BROUGHT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THE FORUM...MANY THINGS COME TO MIND REGARDING YOUR EXPOSURE TO DOCUMENTS TRANSCRIBED...ONE THING WHICH I AM CURIOUS SINCE YOU STATED THAT THE NEW WEAPON WAS NOT THE ATOMIC BOMB...WAS IT TESLA BASED?...OR CAN YOU DISCUSS THE AFOREMENTIONED...
THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT GERMAN UNDERGROUND HIGHWAY/TRANSPORT TO URAGUAY,PARAGUAY,ARGENTINA...I'VE SPENT MUCH TIME IN BRASIL(BRAZIL) AND HAVE FRIENDS WHOM RESIDE IN THE AFOREMENTIONED AND FIND THEIR INFLUENCE TO BE QUITE DISTINCT IN EACH AREA...NOTHING MORE SHOULD BE SAID wink
SHALOM...ZETAR cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 10th, 2008, 09:42am

ZETAR

The miracle weapon was based on plasma physics. It was an additive capable of mass production, tested at Ohrdruf on 3rd and 12 March 1945. It posed very dangerous problems to the meteorological stability of the environment and Göring is quoted as saying after his capture that he thought it could destroy civilisation, and would have refused the Luftwaffe permission to use it had it become available in time.

The additive was not a nuclear weapon but used an atomic principle. Particles of atomic decay changed the constitution of the air inside a toroid stable plasmoid. When the plasmoid was dissolved by a radio signal, the released plasma combined with any high explosive in the vicinity to enormously magnify its destructive force. A 50 kg bomb therefore had the killing power of an Hiroshima atom bomb, but without the destruction to property and little residual radioactivity. An article by Harry Vosser "Germans Still Striving to Perfect a V-Weapon" published in the New York Times on 2 October 1944 at page E5 shows that the US was well informed about the development of this weapon at a critical stage of the war, and understood in theory how it worked.

Modern western science has not been able to re-create an artificial plasmoid with a life longer than 200 millisecs. Where Hitler obtained the scientific knowledge is unknown. In the 1930s AEG was merely studying ball-lightning on the roof of a Berlin hospital, and the leap from there to actually creating an item of permanent ball lightning within seven years seems preposterous.

In this regard I would read the article "Plasma Life Forms - Aliens From a Parallel Earth" (Angels/UFOs/Psychics) very, very thoughtfully.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 11th, 2008, 12:49pm

I cannot resist jumping into this conversation. There is no doubt in my mind that we have had several weapons of mass distruction discovered and developed in the history of mans obsession with human race genocide. An example of this is the scientific experiment done many years ago by scientists who were trying to map the shape and contours of planet Earth. These morons exploded an H-bomb at one of the poles and recorded the shockwaves in order to map the shape of this planet. Had there not been UFO intervention this planet would have been knocked out of its orbit and all life forms destroyed. Try to understand that there is a higher intelligence which uses UFOs to maintain the integrity and stability of this planet in order to protect our solar system and the rest of the universe. Can you imagine how many times in the history of this planet UFOs have been forced to intervene to save this planet and its life forms? If man was left to his own devices, he would have destroyed this planet several times already and have done great harm to the universe.

Do not trust the idiots of science or the suicidal impulses of the military. Trust in a higher intelligence.

What do your think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ZETAR on Mar 12th, 2008, 06:30am

HEY ORHDRUF,
IN DOING SOME RESEARCH I RAN ACROSS A ARTICLE CONCERNING THIS TYPE WEAPON.
PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS WHAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED AS IT COULD VERY WELL BE DEVASTATING...MANY OF THE GERMAN SCIETISTS WERE AWARE OF THE ATOMIC WEAPONS AND THEIR EFFECTS...SOME SAY THEY DELAYED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS REASON.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE RUN ACROSS SOME INTERESTING INSIGHTS...EST POSSIBLE'?

The third outcome of Zippermeyer’s work was even deadlier. The proposed Flak shells containing coal dust powder were to be developed into a super bomb. The SS took Zippermeyer’s basic idea and enlarged it into a bomb containing 60% liquid oxygen and 40% fine coal dust powder. This alone would create immense destruction but the SS pushed the idea further by adding a waxy reagent to the mix. When detonated the Superbomb would create a huge explosion with a latter unnatural electrical storm effect at ground level, consuming all oxygen and burning everything alive in a 4.5 km radius - a form of plasma weapon. However, the decision to proceed with this bomb was only granted on March 9, 1945 and was to be constructed at the Jonastal S-3 complex as well as the German discs. The complex was never finished in time and worked stopped that same month, even after 25-50 kg test versions of the bomb were detonated in remote locations near the Baltic.

Postwar, Ing. Faulker was not heard of again. He was captured by the Russians in the advance and taken to the USSR. The Russians had considered the development of coal dust explosives too but decided against it and developed their own “thermobaric” weapons which ultimately were tested in Chechnya. No Russian flight disc development seems to have resulted from Faulkner’s capture.

ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS wink
HASTA LUEGO,
SHALOM...ZETAR cool


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 12th, 2008, 10:17am

Let us try to simplify the understanding of existence and of nonexistence. There are other dimensions of existence and reality and these are the habitat of other beings. What you perceive with your conscious mind and your five senses is a limited physical dimensional world. We cannot use this as the Keystone or guidepost to understand other dimensional beings. As I have stated so many times we must go beyond our physical limitations and learn to think like ETs in order to understand them and their worlds. Think with your higher mind and not with your logical brain. Understanding requires a quantum leap mentally above and beyond quantum physics. Are you ready?


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 12th, 2008, 11:28am

Irwyn

I agree that the Earth is under the protection of superior beings. I also believe that they will intervene to destroy the vast mass of humanity in the period 2009-2012, as has been prophesied twice this century in the Mariological apparitions. As a Russian scientist once observed, the Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot spend one's entire life in the cradle. Democracy and capitalism lead us nowhere except to more of the same. Therefore they will start with us virtually afresh.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ohrdruf on Mar 12th, 2008, 11:55am

ZETAR

I congratulate you on your research. Dr Zippermayr had a small laboratory which he ran on behalf of the Luftwaffe at Lofer in the Austrian Tyrol. His idea for the coal dust/liquid air explosive began with a flak shell in 1942, and was later adapted to the "Enzian" and "Schmetterling" flak rockets. The first definite experiment with the additive reagent was reported by British agents in 1944 when the SS tried it in 50kg aircraft bombs on the Starnberger See. Zippermayr is mentioned in the British intelligence report, of which I have a copy.

The reagent was the product of plasma physics work which involved some advanced theories from an unknown source. I have an SS document which is written in such a way as to suggest that the source was external to the Earth. There is a good deal of information available on the laboratory process from a Polish source. Less well known is that experimental work continued in Argentina postwar.

There is some reason to suspect that the Brazilian light cruiser "Bahía" was sunk by U-977 at the Equator on 4 July 1945. It may have been the case that a round filled with the reagent was fired from a 38-mm flak gun and the plasma reacted with the explosives in the depth charges stacked on the poop of the cruiser with devastating effect.

The real danger of the reagent lay in the fact that it was "anti-gravitational". In the Ohrdruf test on 4 March 1945, the witnesses were cautioned "never to mention the hurricane gusts and hundreds of bolts of lightning" which raked the night skies when the explosion occurred.

It is probable that the United States captured samples of this reagent in Germany. The submarine U-234 which surrendered to the US Navy on 14 May 1945 had "ten cases of uranium oxide" aboard - the cover name for the reagent which was to have been used in ten Hiroshima-size explosions. U-234 had been heading for Tokyo when the commander, Fehler, decided the terminate the voyage on his own initiative. There was no means of knowing if other U-boats might not be heading for Japan with a similar cargo and one may perceive that these ten cases made inevitable the decision of the United States President to attack Japan with nuclear weapons and so ensure a quick end to the Second World War.

On the other hand, the building of nuclear weapons by the United States makes inevitable the coming attack on ourselves by the protective Powers since nuclear weapons are ILLEGAL in human hands!


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 25th, 2008, 08:41am

Zetar, thank you for your beautiful and insightful and inspiring posting. In my latest book, "Other Dimensions" I have tried to take these profound mysteries and simplify them. It is very easy to become lost and confused in words and titles and scientific jargon. The simple answers are the best. The latest revelation which I have received from my Angels is that numerous books and spokespeople are contesting and challenging all of the existing religions. The Angels have informed me that they are engaged in this operation and that in about two years all of the orthodox religions will be discredited and replaced by a higher consciousness of belief.

PS it is the time to free the human race from the enslavement of religions and the need to make war.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 26th, 2008, 1:50pm

This is primarily a reply posting to zetar and HS and to all the members in general. I have had personal experiences whereby lecturing on a high level I have brought in ETs and UFO beings from higher worlds and other dimensions. [I shall post some of these if you like.] Also, why do you use the logic of the limited human brain when you question whether two years time is enough to reposition and raise the consciousness level of human beings? How many human beings are capable of raising their level ? Perhaps less than 1% of the human race? You think the UFOs have nothing better to do than to create a higher intelligence hybrid race? Do you think that you can understand any of this?

Unless you have had personal experiences in consciousness raising of yourself or have been connected to UFOs and Angels, then you are not in the "graduating class". The animal physical consciousness type human beings will be relocated to an Earth type world and possibly integrated with the new hybrid race. The human beings who have developed beyond the physical and who do not accept this present human race as their choice of the future will not be trapped in a physical body anymore!!!

Can you comprehend any of this? This is not meant to be an insult to anyone but rather an exercise in self-evaluation and self-awareness.


What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 26th, 2008, 5:03pm

Raf, I can appreciate your worship of the sciences, but there are other dimensions of reality above and beyond the provable and explainable. Is life a reality or delusion? Is death a greater reality? The wise man allows for all things to be possible and for nothing to be absolute!!!

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Truether on Mar 26th, 2008, 5:20pm


Quote:
Can you comprehend any of this? This is not meant to be an insult to anyone but rather an exercise in self-evaluation and self-awareness.


We comprehend.
IC
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 26th, 2008, 6:49pm

on Sep 28th, 2002, 11:42am, B J Booth wrote:
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Aliens come in all shapes and sizes. The most common ones are the so-called grays. There are also the Nordics, the Reptilians, etc.. If we actually make official contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence, what do yo think they would look like?




To make first contact with an ET can/is very traumatizing and breathtaking. Most people either get attacked and abducted, or they describe horrible encounters with ET. ET looks very demonic and is seen or portrayed as an evil demonic being for much of the grey aliens, reptilians....

Some patronize the darkened myths and bring to light how Earth is being invaded by good ETs who have come to Rapture and save us. Because of myths like this we have people gathering in crowds in search for ET to find the human race to ET gap and meet ET at first contact. Let me try to establish to you that our government has made ET contact and has stated how traumatizing it can be for a human to encounter a full ET. But, people have refused the truths and still refuse to believe.

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http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=15142321
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Truether on Mar 26th, 2008, 7:49pm

Quote:
Earth is being invaded by good ETs who have come to Rapture and save us


Those who wish to go, should.
IC
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Samsara on Mar 27th, 2008, 11:14am

When you consider that aliens may be millions of years in advance of us I dont believe that they would appear to us in any form we could recognize. They may just be beings of pure light undectable to our senses and with no need of a bodily form.

The reported sightings of Grey's Reptilians, Nordics etc.
are, IMO projected holographic images.

Just my opinion, I know many will disagree.....

Samsara
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 27th, 2008, 3:38pm

Samsara:

I don't disagree with you at all. I have seen aliens in the flesh and have experienced them as beings of light and holographs. But the holographs where the aliens walked through our walls was a means to teleport like in Star Trek. I know it sounds wild and far out; but, it is the best I can come up with for a logical scientific explanation of what I have experienced.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 28th, 2008, 5:10pm

Zetar, you are correct. I am posting several excerpts from my latest book,"Other Dimensions" in order to share with the readers some of my experiences which have formed the basis of my thinking.

"Chapter Twelve
Time and Inter-dimensional Travel
Is “Time Travel” possible? Is it possible to travel to different dimensions? We really do not understand the unlimited potential of the human mind. The psychic dimension gives us the clue that time manipulation or distortion can make it possible for people or objects to appear in different places at different times, to travel in time, to bi-locate in time. Let me relate some “real-life” experiences pertinent to this subject.
When I was 13 years old I was sitting in an easy chair relaxing and my attention was drawn to a clock that was on a desk. The clock showed the time to be 2:45 p.m. At this point I went into a state of meditation. And I mentally relived the entire past 13 years of my life, incident by incident.
When I awoke from this meditation my attention was drawn to the clock on the desk and I was stunned to see that I had relived 13 years of my physical life in 13 seconds of mental time. This experience is similar to when a person is drowning or involved in a life-threatening situation and their whole life flashes before their eyes. This incident made me realize that there are two dimensions of time, mental time and physical time.
In one particular instance, this was dramatically demonstrated to me. I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a high point in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.
We are all travelers in time. Everything in the universe, including the universe, is traveling in time. We cannot say that we are traveling in space because space as we know it does not exist in the other dimensions of mental and energy worlds. Space in the physical worlds coexists with matter as a relative convenience, and it should not be defined as an absolute term. It should be defined and experienced in its relation to a particular dimension. Time in its essence is a multi-frequency state of vibration. Understand that everything in the universe, every state of being, is vibrating at a different frequency."

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 28th, 2008, 5:36pm

timetraveler:

You seem pretty well educated on Angels and UFOs. I have experienced them to and chosen to single you out here to try and get more info and confirmation.

Lets first go back to the Bible where an Angel time-travels to escape a disciple prisoner. Yes, Angels can time travel and so can UFOs. I experienced a time-traveling Angel in 2002. The Angel came to me from the future and gave me startling new revelations about the Seals of God.

There is a Angel World. The Angel world is on a 5th dimension of space and time and is parallel with God. The 5th dimension is another extension of the 4th dimension of time and space in which the alien worlds are in. The 4th dimension of time and space is connected to the 5th extension but broken or opposite to the 3rd dimension of time and space in which Earth exists.

The Earth will be reborn again and go back to return to this 4th dimension of time and space and become parallel to the time of the universe which will uplift Earth spiritually causing great miracles to happen. This is the 5th ascension of man and will be the final days before Christ's return.

I believe aliens made Christ like they made me. They implanted his fetus inside Mary and is how Mary gave birth to Christ as a virgin.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 28th, 2008, 7:37pm

Once I time traveled with aliens aboard a alien spacecraft flying saucer. The aliens pulled out flat black boxes that displayed a digital numbering screen like a calculator. The aliens performed a time travel sequence by going back 40 minutes in time and recalling the starship back to the time and place location. When the aliens performed this the UFO vanished from sight.

The aliens time travel digital data looked much like a heliocentric trajectory chart for space satellites. Example:
2010 254 1.01 7.2 292.1 272.2
2010 255 1.01 7.2 278.9 273.2
2010 256 1.01 7.2 265.7 274.2
2010 257 1.01 7.2 252.5 275.2
2010 258 1.01 7.2 239.3 276.2
2010 259 1.01 7.2 226.1 277.2
2010 260 1.01 7.2 212.9 278.1
2010 261 1.00 7.1 199.7 279.1
2010 262 1.00 7.1 186.5 280.1
2010 263 1.00 7.1 173.3 281.1
2010 264 1.00 7.1 160.1 282.1
2010 265 1.00 7.1 146.9 283.1
2010 266 1.00 7.0 133.7 284.0
2010 267 1.00 7.0 120.5 285.0
2010 268 1.00 7.0 107.3 286.0
2010 269 1.00 6.9 94.1 287.0
2010 270 1.00 6.9 80.9 288.0
2010 271 1.00 6.8 67.7 289.0
2010 272 1.00 6.8 54.5 290.0
2010 273 1.00 6.8 41.3 290.9
2010 274 1.00 6.7 28.1 291.9
2010 275 1.00 6.7 14.9 292.9
2010 276 1.00 6.6 1.7 293.9
2010 277 1.00 6.6 348.5 294.9
2010 278 1.00 6.5 335.3 295.9
2010 279 1.00 6.5 322.1 296.9
2010 280 1.00 6.4 308.9 297.9
2010 281 1.00 6.3 295.7 298.9
2010 282 1.00 6.3 282.5 299.9
2010 283 1.00 6.2 269.3 300.8
2010 284 1.00 6.2 256.1 301.8
2010 285 1.00 6.1 242.9 302.8
2010 286 1.00 6.0 229.7 303.8
2010 287 1.00 6.0 216.6 304.8
2010 288 1.00 5.9 203.4 305.8
2010 289 1.00 5.8 190.2 306.8
2010 290 1.00 5.7 177.0 307.8
2010 291 1.00 5.7 163.8 308.8
2010 292 1.00 5.6 150.6 309.8
2010 293 1.00 5.5 137.4 310.8
2010 294 1.00 5.4 124.2 311.8
2010 295 1.00 5.3 111.0 312.8
2010 296 0.99 5.2 97.8 313.8
2010 297 0.99 5.2 84.7 314.8
2010 298 0.99 5.1 71.5 315.8
2010 299 0.99 5.0 58.3 316.8
2010 300 0.99 4.9 45.1 317.7
2010 301 0.99 4.8 31.9 318.7
2010 302 0.99 4.7 18.7 319.7
2010 303 0.99 4.6 5.5 320.7
2010 304 0.99 4.5 352.3 321.7
2010 305 0.99 4.4 339.2 322.7
2010 306 0.99 4.3 326.0 323.7
2010 307 0.99 4.2 312.8 324.7
2010 308 0.99 4.1 299.6 325.7
2010 309 0.99 4.0 286.4 326.7
2010 310 0.99 3.9 273.2 327.7
2010 311 0.99 3.8 260.0 328.7
2010 312 0.99 3.7 246.9 329.7
2010 313 0.99 3.6 233.7 330.7
2010 314 0.99 3.4 220.5 331.7
2010 315 0.99 3.3 207.3 332.7
2010 316 0.99 3.2 194.1 333.7
2010 317 0.99 3.1 180.9 334.7
2010 318 0.99 3.0 167.8 335.7
2010 319 0.99 2.9 154.6 336.7
2010 320 0.99 2.8 141.4 337.7
2010 321 0.99 2.6 128.2 338.7
2010 322 0.99 2.5 115.0 339.7
2010 323 0.99 2.4 101.8 340.7
2010 324 0.99 2.3 88.7 341.7
2010 325 0.99 2.2 75.5 342.7
2010 326 0.99 2.0 62.3 343.7
2010 327 0.99 1.9 49.1 344.8
2010 328 0.99 1.8 35.9 345.8
2010 329 0.99 1.7 22.8 346.8
2010 330 0.99 1.5 9.6 347.8
2010 331 0.99 1.4 356.4 348.8
2010 332 0.99 1.3 343.2 349.8
2010 333 0.99 1.2 330.0 350.8
2010 334 0.99 1.0 316.9 351.8
2010 335 0.99 0.9 303.7 352.8
2010 336 0.99 0.8 290.5 353.8
2010 337 0.99 0.7 277.3 354.8
2010 338 0.99 0.5 264.1 355.8
2010 339 0.99 0.4 251.0 356.8
2010 340 0.99 0.3 237.8 357.8
2010 341 0.99 0.1 224.6 358.8
2010 342 0.98 0.0 211.4 359.8
2010 343 0.98 -0.1 198.3 0.8
2010 344 0.98 -0.2 185.1 1.9
2010 345 0.98 -0.4 171.9 2.9
2010 346 0.98 -0.5 158.7 3.9
2010 347 0.98 -0.6 145.6 4.9
2010 348 0.98 -0.7 132.4 5.9
2010 349 0.98 -0.9 119.2 6.9
2010 350 0.98 -1.0 106.0 7.9
2010 351 0.98 -1.1 92.9 8.9
2010 352 0.98 -1.3 79.7 9.9
2010 353 0.98 -1.4 66.5 10.9
2010 354 0.98 -1.5 53.3 11.9
2010 355 0.98 -1.6 40.2 13.0
2010 356 0.98 -1.8 27.0 14.0
2010 357 0.98 -1.9 13.8 15.0
2010 358 0.98 -2.0 0.6 16.0
2010 359 0.98 -2.1 347.5 17.0
2010 360 0.98 -2.2 334.3 18.0
2010 361 0.98 -2.4 321.1 19.0
2010 362 0.98 -2.5 308.0 20.0
2010 363 0.98 -2.6 294.8 21.1
2010 364 0.98 -2.7 281.6 22.1
2010 365 0.98 -2.9 268.4 23.1
2011 1 0.98 -3.0 255.3 24.1
2011 2 0.98 -3.1 242.1 25.1
2011 3 0.98 -3.2 228.9 26.1
2011 4 0.98 -3.3 215.8 27.1
2011 5 0.98 -3.4 202.6 28.2
2011 6 0.98 -3.5 189.4 29.2
2011 7 0.98 -3.7 176.3 30.2
2011 8 0.98 -3.8 163.1 31.2
2012 1 0.98 -2.9 117.7 23.8
2012 2 0.98 -3.1 104.5 24.8
2012 3 0.98 -3.2 91.4 25.9
2012 4 0.98 -3.3 78.2 26.9
2012 5 0.98 -3.4 65.0 27.9
2012 6 0.98 -3.5 51.9 28.9
2012 7 0.98 -3.6 38.7 29.9
2012 8 0.98 -3.7 25.5 30.9
2012 9 0.98 -3.8 12.3 32.0
2012 10 0.98 -4.0 359.2 33.0
2012 11 0.98 -4.1 346.0 34.0
2012 12 0.98 -4.2 332.8 35.0
2012 13 0.98 -4.3 319.7 36.0


If we can program time information data into a trajectory path we can accomplish time travel say from
2010 254 1.01 7.2 292.1 272.2 to 2012 13 0.98 -4.3 319.7 36.0.

Supposedly at Montauk, the government did take the black box recordings for time travel and uploaded into their computer systems. But, the agents supposedly could not go past 2012. This is because 2012 is a year of uncertainty.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 28th, 2008, 8:04pm

I know that last post about alien time travel and heliocentric trajectory charts were a whopper. Let's try to break this down.

1. Alien ETs are on a higher 4th dimension parallel with the universe.
A. The aliens perform a benevolent time travel.
B. Humans can perform this type of time travel through programming heliocentric trajectories combining past, future and present.

2. Angels on a higher 5th dimension of time and space can morph into other objects and time travel through a malevolent force or portals intertwined with Earth and the universe.
A. The Angels can morph through walls, computers, televisions, radios, and intervene humans through physical metamorphing through Earthen realms.
B. Humans can time travel through astral project with the Angels and sometimes paranormally morph their own bodies through the experience to actually perform physical time travel where time could become erased or unaccounted for.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 28th, 2008, 8:51pm

So there we finally have some truth for closure. I won't get into Montauk much except to tell you the base was used for probing extraterrestrial communications by a satellite to Alpha Moon Base. But when time traveling agents opened a pathway inside the 4th dimension; they "opened a doorway to hell" and things went wrong causing for the base and projects to be shut down.

Now I wonder, how many doorways to hell have the aliens invading us may have opened? I wonder how real the other side of the veil is? If all Earth is to invading extraterrestrials is another number on a star map and all we are to them is some species to be probed, tagged, and thrown into lab cages, there is no telling what other worlds they have invaded to do the same; there is no telling how many USO underground UFO bases have opened such portals to the other side of the veil. Supposedly 2,000 of them exist.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 30th, 2008, 1:05pm

I feel so privileged and blessed to be part of ufocasebook. I believe that we have the best Internet website going. I also believe that we have the most intelligent and enlightened persons participating.
Try to remember the basic realities. Nothing exists without purpose and everything that exists, whether positive or negative is designed by higher intelligence as an opportunity for learning and understanding. Add to this that all of existence is connected and that there are no accidental or random occurrences in creation. If you can understand this then you are a highly evoluted soul.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 30th, 2008, 1:16pm

One of the problems that this planet has at this time is that it is a third dimensional planet. At this time in our history the fourth dimension is at the closest point to us that it has ever been and therefore astral beings and "creatures" can "cross over" with out any trouble. However, the fifth dimension is inhabited by Angels such as Guardian Angels. The sixth dimension is the habitat of higher frequency Angels called "Angels Of Light" and they are the highest frequency of Angels. The seventh dimension is the "Creator" dimension and you can only visit there for a few microseconds and requires you to be "escorted" and raised to that higher level by Angels. When you reach the seventh level you are literally one with the Creator and one with all of Creation. So, as you can realize by now, there are several levels of Angels and as you have probably figured out by now, ET's are not Angels!!!

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Foster on Mar 30th, 2008, 9:57pm

Hello:
Celestian Falcon wrote in his post:
" Let me try to establish to you that our government has made ET contact and has stated how traumatizing it can be for a human to encounter a full ET. But, people have refused the truths and still refuse to believe. "

CF I came here and read a few posts and yours intrigued me. Do you have any further thoughts on this emotional trauma that can lead to death and how it might be avoided? Are there proven techniques to assist the human with contact that you know about that you could share?

Thank you in advance for any replies.

Sincerely,
Foster


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 30th, 2008, 10:55pm

Foster:

Hello and welcome to UFO Casebook. I have been advised by a couple of people to do my own website and do my own reports logging them as my experiences with Angels and Aliens continue. The one thing that sticks out quite understandably is FEAR. Fear may create anxiety and panic causing heart failure. This can be avoided by breaking our fears and seeing through any evil. Christ said we who believe would be conquerers over our world. I believe strong Christian faith in God helps to alleviate the fear of extraterrestrial presences; but, does not support just because you are a Christian of faith you are not a subject by aliens to be abducted-- that is a myth to me. Anyone is subject to be taken but, the aliens do pre-abduction checks on their victims and copy their DNA and blood type codes. If the blood type is not correct the victim such as myself might undergo life threatening abduction treatments. The aliens seemingly do not care; or, at least those who are the Saurians over the Greys do not care and show no emotion to humans. The Greys are different and show compassion to humans. Some Greys have been messengers to contactees.

The Saurians are the tall lizard like (Praying Mantis) aliens where there is another smaller race of them similar to the Greys. The Greys also have tall and short aliens but not as tall or as dominant as the Saurians. It is all a matter of chance and happenstance and is up to each individual encounter to communicate properly with these higher beings or break fear to communicate properly where they might go easy on you if you listen. I did not listen. As a result I witnessed working UFO parts and got burned by radiation for not staying put as I was told. That was my fault where I could have died; but, I chose to be smart and backed away as soon as I felt radiation near the photon synthesizers of the UFO craft. My best advise is that of my father's who has also been contacted by the alien Greys about their starships; that advise is consider it like this, we are all brothers and sisters in heaven. If they are here and of a higher intelligence surely they know peace and we should trust in peace for all sakes to be. Then we can come to know each other by the stars instead of running and hiding from a truth that could ultimately kill you.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Foster on Mar 31st, 2008, 1:18pm

Celestian Falcon. ..Thanks for your answer.
You wrote, "Fear may create anxiety and panic causing heart failure."

I can accept this as a cause for the death of the human with interaction. I was also wondering if there was a biological component for some humans as well causing death. You mentioned your blood type as not being correct and you underwent life threatening abduction treatments. I did not understand what you meant as not having the correct blood type. If you could clarify, I would enjoy reading your account.

I appreciated your statements about your strong faith in God assisting you in times of need.

In closing, I read somewhere awhile back that fear was an acronym for False Evidence Appearing as Real.





Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 31st, 2008, 4:12pm

Foster:

It is difficult but I think the aliens use a B- blood type. This rare blood type can be crossed with cattle blood types who carry B or B- blood type through their genes which is a fairly new discovery by me for scientists to discover through my ET contacts.

This could mean most people who get abducted might undergo life threatening abduction treatments because they are not B- blood types. That is, I think.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 31st, 2008, 4:23pm

Why do you continuously equate the level of competence of the UFOs or the greys with our own level of science or medicine? I feel secure that there is no problem with the genetic engineering and splicing and grafting abilities of the UFOs.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Mar 31st, 2008, 6:09pm

on Mar 31st, 2008, 4:23pm, timetraveler wrote:
Why do you continuously equate the level of competence of the UFOs or the greys with our own level of science or medicine? I feel secure that there is no problem with the genetic engineering and splicing abilities of the UFOs.

What do you think? Irwyn



I'm not sure what you mean? I'm not equating or quantifying anything here yet. But, if you should know, I believe it was abductees who first reported the silver alien needle, where, based on numerous events the optical needle became discovered.

As far as you seeing no problem with genetic alien engineering. It is a cloning DNA system that would cause many human rights activists to go ballistic.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Foster on Mar 31st, 2008, 11:04pm

smileyCF Thanks for sharing your views.
I won't be posting further on this board.
Best Wishes,

Foster



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 1st, 2008, 1:00pm

CF, I am certainly not interested in what the human rights organizations protest. They protest everything. I think we have to stick to the subject of the UFOs and the greys and other ET beings who are visiting our planet and intervening in the affairs of the human race. I do not take a religious attitude in this research as I do not believe that ETs or the greys or UFOs belong to any particular religious belief system. I have been attacked several times by evil forces, probably from the fourth dimension astral worlds but I have never been attacked or abducted or harmed by UFOs or Angels. I have been contacted by UFOs and Angels who have raised my consciousness level. I think the main focus here should be in trying to understand what is happening.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Foster on Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:23am

Way to Go Celestian Falcon!!!...

I apologize. I wasn't planning on posting anything else as I personally don't like writing on bb. However, due to a bit of synchronicity I experienced from last night I felt compelled to write this post.

Last night, on the weekly series of UFO Hunters on the History Channel, they discussed a blood disorder that two abductees had in common. It is called Creatine phosphokinase and they both had elevated levels of this in their blood. One man had so much cpk that he was discharged from the military. The show producers declared that this may be a definitive marker in the blood for people with ufo/contact experiences.

I was really astounded as you had mention your blood issue and this was the first I’ve heard of this and then it is talked about on my tv. Wow!!!

Just thought you might want to know.







Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:45am

Foster:

Thank you. You may have just helped me. I need to get checked for CPK blood disease. I also came down with osteoporosis at the age of nine. I have soft bone tissues and just am a bit deformed on the insides according to doctors. I have chronic pain in my legs and feel all these things are from my abduction and whatever the aliens did to me.


You would think I am angry and think I should be protesting aliens for abducting people against their wills. I have chosen to forgive them and since my abduction I have become Enlightened. So, I live with the pain and blood disease every day of my life. I feel fortunate to have survived my abduction because the aliens could have easily killed me. But, no, they listened to an Angel's orders to put us back and did.

I know this is a lot for one to believe, but it did happen. I wish I had seen that show last night and it is comforting to know I am not the only one.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 3rd, 2008, 3:51pm

CF, I'm sorry that you have suffered physical damage as a result of your abduction. I have a deep and abiding faith that everything has a purpose and meaning and that there is a learning in everything both negative and positive. We cannot comprehend the workings of the Angels but we must have faith and belief that what ever they do is right.

Never forget that the Soul is eternal and is an enduring reality whereas the various bodies and forms that reincarnate are temporary and only designed to accommodate the temporary classroom of that particular incarnation. There is only one purpose in all of creation and existence and that is that the Soul must learn from experience in order to understand Itself and its Creator.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 3rd, 2008, 4:48pm

timetraveler:

The alien Greys and Saurians may be supernatural and go out of their bodies for teleportation. But, they are also physical beings by nature. Only Angels of the 5th Dimension are malevolent beings of Light to me. The aliens are physically in a 4th dimension of time and space and I look at it like this: What does our government do to the aliens? The same thing the aliens do to us. They capture the aliens, put them in cages and biologically study them. There is little difference between the two. I feel we need a broader acceptance of an alien presence on Earth.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 3rd, 2008, 6:45pm

Celestian Falcon's contact Channeling of Kryon Angels and Aliens

Did you know there is one God that looks like One God because God is One? Did you know what the aliens look and appear to you as the apparitions of a human form so you will know you have been won by the stars for a half of one to a half of one together equals one? Did you know you are the alien and the myth to become the one chosen for the final callings of us whom are the ascendancies of the Heavens? For we have come to Enlighten the world to be won by the Stars in which we have ascended through. The Stars that reign the Heavens are the Gatekeepers of our Light, our Love, our faiths, and our peace we bring.

For we are the springs [star seeds] of the Heavens who have come to bring with us Great Blessings over men to be won. That you whom are man of Earth have been chosen by us to be in laid upon by the Heavens and to become a world to be one/won as one and won are the sum of one.

The Enlightened Ones
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 4th, 2008, 3:52pm

CF,

I think that it is "consciousness raising" time. Can you comprehend that the Creator and Creation are One? Can you understand that you cannot separate the Creator from its Creations? Can you realize that the Creator is not individualized and has no sexual identity? Can you perceive that the Creator is a high energy entity and therefore cannot possibly have a physical offspring? Can you release yourself from your self-imposed prison of limited understanding in order to raise yourself to a higher level?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 4th, 2008, 6:01pm

The Greatest gift of God is Love. Love is peace and love is kind. Love never fails. For it is Love that is the greatest gift of all.

We as a human species should acknowledge the higher existences of aliens and angels. I acknowledge God as the ultimate creator of all things and that it is God who is the Alpha and the Omega.

But, according to Hopi Indian contacts with Blue Aliens, the Blue Aliens told the Hopi destiny is in man's own hands and man must find his own path for peace. It is up to man to decide his future and his destiny.

God has given man a choice. It is up to man to acknowledge this higher order of beings through God's own existence throughout the universe. God has freely given his Angels and other Aliens the same choices of Man. Man is not just his own self creator and one as God; but rather becomes one with his God through the acknowledgments of the higher orders.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by iknoweverything212 on Apr 7th, 2008, 01:36am

Ok every one heres the jist aliens what do they look like? well theres two forms the greys or good guys and the nephelim/reptilliens/evil ones these beings are pure evil they kill people and decieve many the greys however want to help us one way is by crop cricles/abductions/and or ufo sittings these things are real and the goverments of this world is trying to cover it up but why well click on this to find out more!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-G9pIn8TaA
for info on police state
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O96ZMPXuv1A
for the knowlage of the end times
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vEXGKzH0F9c
for the proof that there is a god


ps sry about the spelling errors in a hurry

evry one must know what the goverments are planing and why there doing this e-mail me if you want to know more about these subjects.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DEATHeVADER on Apr 11th, 2008, 09:34am

on Apr 7th, 2008, 01:36am, iknoweverything212 wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-G9pIn8TaA
for info on police state

Individual actions do not determine the actions of the whole

Quote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vEXGKzH0F9c
for the proof that there is a god


Some people have too much time on their hands cheesy
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 11th, 2008, 1:46pm

Iknoweverything 212,

I must contest your statements in your last posting. First of all the Saurians, who are the most advanced race in the fourth dimension, created the greys as an artificial intelligence manufacture in order to assist them in the hybrid human being project. The governments of this world are helpless and hopeless regarding UFOs and their technology and their abilities. Are you trying to make this a Western movie scenario where the good guys wear white hats and the bad guys wear black hats?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 12th, 2008, 06:54am

timetraveler:

I commend you for your outstanding and amazing experiences you have had with angels and alien contacts. I do believe you and what you say is consistent with what I know. However; what iknoweverything said in post #28 about the Greys being deceived by another alien presence is also true. There is evil in this world; but, there is good out there.

There are two different alien UFO types of species. One exists metaphysically inside the 4th dimensions of Earth. When Earth reaches its final ascension to the 4th dimension these beings will emerge from a bottomless pit connected through portals throughout the Universe. Earth is metaphysically connected through itself and the universe. These beings of the 4th dimension inside Earth are what iknoweverything212 calls the Nephilim, Reptilian..., are what I refer to as the beings from the Earth dimension of time and space as being the Draconians, the MiBs, and the Reptoids.

While iknoweverything212 seems to have his rap on the government for coverup conspiracies involved with the beings from the inner 4th dimension of Earth who can and have deceived the world, I have retained secret information from inside the military who have told me of these alien undergrounds and that the military is in a secret "black war" with these aliens form inside the Earth 4th dimension who are evil.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 13th, 2008, 12:24pm

CF, I do not believe that the eventual higher evolution is to the fourth dimension. I believe that our Souls being the" seed" of the Creator have the potential of the Creator and that we are the fallen Angels referred to in the Bibles. Not all of us on this planet are the same age or have the same experience of past lives. Many of us are former ETs who have been forced to incarnate on this planet to learn and to assist in the "great transition" which is imminent. Religions have been created based upon incorrect translation and interpretation of Bibles and ancient documents. The truth of the Creator and its creations is much simpler and makes more sense. Do not let dogma and ritual and blind belief prevent you from free thinking and arriving at a higher understanding.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 13th, 2008, 1:55pm

timetraveler:

Your last response sounds like ancient Chinese Confucius! Now I do not believe in the ancient Chinese Confucius; but i do believe what I have experienced and been told by other Angels from the 5th dimension of time and space. Angels are much different than alien ebens where Angels can come into computer terminals, channel with other human beings because they are as you say on a higher level, which computer terminals electrical outputs support because they are equal to the high frequency ranges.

I respect you for not believing me but the reason for the higher existences are due to the fact these alien races and angels are from a higher dimension of time and space that is parallel to time and space of the universe. I know this sounds like a self-made theory, but it is NOT a theory, it is only what I have been told and instructed by angels of God who have delightfully explained these mysteries to me through channeling contacts.

Though I do not believe in Chinese Confucius, I do believe in reincarnation and that some angels come as walk-ins or angel-men do exist on the higher level. Some of these angel-people do things like perform miracles, heal the sick, save lives, heroes of war, and some of the workers associated with these fantastic beings are called "Light Workers." Reincarnation is rare and does not occur on a natural basis. It is something God allows for certain souls who have not completed their life missions on Earth. Moses and Elijah the two great prophets of the Bible will be reincarnated in the end times and come as the two witnesses before God.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 13th, 2008, 2:33pm

When I was abducted by aliens in 1968, my life almost ended. I was placed on a silver table and examined by a Saurian alien who stood about 7ft. tall. But, when an Angel of God boarded the UFO craft and told the Saurian and the other aliens to put us back as they found us, the aliens listened to the Angels orders who told the aliens that I was a Star Child of belonging not to the aliens who made me but to God who had chosen me to be made through them. Even though my abduction experience was life-shocking and very scary at first, I felt as though I was helping the alien Saurians and Greys through medical sciences by allowing the aliens to perform certain types of abductions on me. Even though the Saurian knew I was a human/hybrid alien, the Saurian did NOT seem to know what the Angel who boarded the craft was about ONLY that the Angel had been sent by God to destroy the UFO craft unless the aliens put us back as they found us as the Angel ordered the aliens to do. I feel very fortunate to have a Guardian Angel who watches over me and very fortunate to have found God.

For 12 years of my life I felt like the aliens who abducted me were evil. I believed the alien Greys and Saurians were actually demons who protested God. I felt like the aliens were hiding technologies from the world in order for them to carry out sinister abduction tasks in which the soul could be separated from the body and the alien spirits could possess the human abduction victims to control the world. I felt like whatever the alien Saurians and Greys were doing with Earth was for evil and that these aliens who were demons had fallen to Earth to try and overtake it.

I was wrong though! Maybe some aliens have fallen to Earth with fallen Angels of the Nephilim, but these are the very evil ones who don't put you back as they find you. They attack people and mutilate cattle for the pure purpose of evil. Some say these evil aliens can produce "walk-ins" and possess the human body to take it over and this is what has happened to the governments of the world who are the nations that have been deceived. Just look up David Icke conspiracy theories and you will find it all there.

I DO NOT believe any of David Icke's outlandish conspiracy theories. No, angels are at work amidst the world and are bringing enlightenments to the world. No matter where you are in this world or whatever world that is out there you may be from, there is NOTHING that can separate you from your true God.

One day God will return to Earth and lay down peace for the worlds. There will be great rejoicings and God will give off a new Sun light that will never bring nighttime only Light, Peace, and Love. This is the ultimate message from the aliens. The world belongs to God and God will return back one day to reclaim it.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 14th, 2008, 12:01pm

CF, I will not argue with you or challenge your beliefs or religion. Each one of us is an individual with a different history of past lives and experiences and therefore each one of us has a different perception of reality and understanding. I respect you and the differences between us. Please allow me to share with you some of my experiences which tell my story better than I could.
You remind me of a vision that I had a long time ago. "In this vision I saw myself as an adult body and there was a white cloth tied tightly around my forehead, which I believe was to hold my mind inside my head. There were two Angels, one on each side of me and I knew that they were putting me in the, "birth canal" to be born. I did not wish to be born into this Earth system because it was a physical World and I was used to existing in a mental World. But in spite of my objections, I was forced to be born. So, I was born into this Earth system under protest.
But I have realized that I was not born to punish me but rather to teach me and for me to be of use in the transition of this Planet from an animal World to a more angelic World."

"In 1973 I was giving a lecture in Montreal at a Spiritualist church, and my lecture subject was, "UFOs and Angel Worlds". The audience was mostly French-Canadians who understood very little English.
I was speaking at a high level of inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to myself, why am I speaking on such a high level when most of the audience cannot understand English?
At this time I looked at some of the faces in the audience and my attention was drawn to two “men” who were seated in the center row. When I looked at their eyes, I knew that they were not of this world. There was the calmness and centered look of Angels in their eyes, and I knew they were Angels or UFO Beings. I realized that they were raising the frequency of my lecture in order to raise the audience to a higher level.
After the lecture while I was seated in the rear of the church these two “men” came over to me and they smiled at me. One of these “men” said, "That was a fine lecture, Mr. Greif, "and the other “man” said, "You are the first "real" Human being that I have met." At that time I felt honored as if I had just been awarded the cosmic Academy Award.
Were these two “men” the same “men” who appeared as Angels to Lot in the Bible?"

“I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a “high point” in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.”


What do you think? Irwyn




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 14th, 2008, 12:18pm

timetraveler:

WOW! (World of Worlds) I know exactly what you are saying to me! I mean WOW! I have had the exact same precognitions that my soul was once in Heaven and God chose for me to be born against my wishes. Oh, I was very happy in Heaven and wanted nothing to do with the material world of Earth. I cried to God but God told me I musty come here and be born here to learn and to experience the flesh. I cried and against my wishes, God sent me to be born on Earth. About all I did as a baby was cry for God to send me back to Heaven. Today, I am fully grown adult and understand my life journey here is only for a time. There were times in my life I did not think I was going to make it through. But, my faith in God kept me from crumbling to the ground. I am fortunate to be one of God and to be one with God.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 15th, 2008, 09:33am

CF, some of us are fortunate enough to be raised for a few seconds in time to the highest level of existence and to be one with the Creator. Please allow me to share the most beautiful experience of my life with you. PS. I am 77 years old.

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I appeared to have what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape. I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The floor consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard, eyesore of black rule of high-end fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane. I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream. Then the strong wind knocked the dream figure down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher entity overseeing this entire experience. As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull. When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my Soul home to its source.
At this instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw me toward this beautiful ecstasy. At this time I had no thought of anything on this earth, not my mother, father, family, or the friends, only the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force. Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it entered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and soon I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements. I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 15th, 2008, 09:38am

Allow me to clarify. When I use the word Creator I am referring to the Creator of my Soul, not the creators of my present physical body who were the Saurian beings!

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 15th, 2008, 11:17am

timetraveler:

I think you are a star child like me. Except I believe it was the Greys who created me. I was a second fetus sack placed by aliens in my mother's womb.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 15th, 2008, 1:36pm

CF, thank you for your compliment. If you will research certain abductee reports you will see that the Saurians were in charge of the greys and that they supervised them. It is my belief that the Saurians not only designed and manufactured our human bodies but that they also designed and manufactured an artificial intelligence race called greys which they trained and programmed to perform various tasks including genetic engineering to assist them in creating the future hybrid human race. You'll see the proof of this when you examine the abductee accounts of the "male" greys not being capable of exhibiting emotions whereas the "female" greys were able to absorb and imitate the emotions of the human females and to demonstrate empathy. Think about this.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on Apr 15th, 2008, 7:33pm

timetraveler:

I have heard that the male Greys are thinner and taller than the female Greys who are shorter and stubby. I have had the encounters of both. You might be correct with your theory. The short stubby female Greys that entered our home and invaded it, made laughter sounds out of their nostrils and a rolling split tongue animal like sound that cannot be duplicated by a human voice. The short stubby alien Grey females showed emotions of a spiritual high and laughter like they were enjoying themselves and had no worry about where they were, the fact they could be shot by army or police, or any bothering notion what they were doing by invading us was wrong. The taller Grey alien communicated to me telepathically and told me they just wanted to look at me and would put me back safely. The male Grey who communicated to me telepathically showed less detailed emotions.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by researchermike on Apr 17th, 2008, 2:54pm

if we ever made contact with aliens i would have to say they look exactly like us.how else would they be able to live on earth as they often do.i think they are our next evolutionary step. we were once cave men now we are modern men we are making the transition into space men. they are us. they just have superior technology as we have superior technology to cave men and they had greater technology to apes.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 17th, 2008, 3:10pm

Stephen Spielberg created a Hollywood version of artificial intelligence beings in his movie. The real artificial intelligence beings are the greys.
I try to simplify Creator and creation in order to understand the "big picture". The Saurians are the highest evolution in the fourth dimension. They were "commissioned" to design and manufacture the physical bodies of the life forms of this planet, including the human race. That is why one of the earliest experimental species was the dinosaur. The dinosaur was a similar design to the lizard people a.k.a. the Saurians but their predatory nature was too strong therefore they had to be eliminated. Also, later experimental forms of humanoids could not survive the predatory dinosaur.

Angels of the fifth dimension who were sanctioned and empowered by the Creator to teach the Souls were too high a vibration to involve with the physical worlds therefore they "contracted" the Saurians to design and construct physical lifeforms and physical environment for these Souls to learn.
Check this out with your sources.

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by candyfloss on Apr 18th, 2008, 06:00am

Check this out Stephen Wagners paranormal news the strange creatures of Brazil section.It has a plethora of alien sightings etc
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2008, 12:34pm

1. I am posting some selected excerpts from my book," Other Dimensions". All of these excerpts have to do with Angels or angelic UFOs contacting me. I am asking the members of UFO casebook to speculate on why I was contacted in these various methods, instead of being physically abducted and taken to a UFO craft? I'd appreciate your theories and comments.

"During this period of time when I was being taught by Angels, I saw this visualization;
I saw a hillock with a valley below it “unfold” in the distance. In the valley were many tents, like the tents of an ancient “biblical” army, and from the top of each of these tents floated a brightly colored pennant. The valley was a great distance away from the hill, and a “river” flowed between the hillock and the tents.
I looked at this hillock, and I was awestruck. I saw the most magnificent black horse that I have ever seen. It was a high spirited horse that seemed to be made of “living energy”. The horse was pawing at the ground, as if ready to go into battle.
As I watched I noticed a “figure” seated on the horse wearing pure silver armor that looked like a “Joan of Arc”. I could only see a part of the face, which was revealed by an open visor, and it was the face neither of a man nor of a woman but the face of an androgen.
This figure held the horse in check with the control of a few fingers on the reins, and I was aware that I was seeing my “Guardian Angel”. I knew that this Angel was my Angel who watched over me and taught me and was the “teacher” in charge of me.
As I watched, I saw this Angel slowly pull the horse around to the left side and lead the horse down into the valley into the land of the tents. I “knew” that these tents were the “world of the Angels”, and I “realized” that the “river” that was in the valley was symbolic of the divider that separated my world from the Angel worlds.
When I saw this Angel go down this hillock into the valley, I was so saddened, so heartbroken because I was “losing” a beautiful Angel.
As I felt this anguish of losing this Angel, I was “told” that what I was seeing was the “changing of the guard”, (God), the time when a “Guardian Angel”, who many have been with you many lifetimes, is finished with your teaching and another “Guardian Angel” teacher takes "his" place. I felt as if I had lost a dear friend.
In the Angel state there is no male or female. Angels are androgynous. They can “become” any form or sex that they wish. They are not limited by the conditions of sickness or death and they do not practice sex or procreate. These conditions exist only in our physical world.
Angels do not require a physical vehicle such as a UFO to travel because their composition is “energy” and often they make their appearance as “xxxxx” of intense colored energy light. They take “forms” and “shapes” whenever they have to communicate with humans who need to communicate with a “physical type” being.
We cannot comprehend the worlds of Angels due to the limitations of our minds and to the fact that we have no points of reference to compare the worlds of Angels to the world of human beings. In order for me to “see” the “big picture” of creation and to facilitate my search for understanding, I do not consider Angels to be religious entities but rather as more “advanced” beings from higher dimensional worlds.
I welcome diverse, but interesting theories and opinions, that's what makes an intelligent conversation. I believe that the conscious mind is the "stupid" mind and that the subconscious mind is capable of a “higher” level of thinking and communication with entities from higher worlds and dimensions. For me the conscious mind is like my “computer”, it can only function with “input” and logic based on information stored in its “databanks”.
Angels and ETs communicate with us in “dreams” and “visions” and by putting us into a "trance like" state of “mind control”. The reason for this is very simple. The information and belief systems “stored” in the conscious mind interferes with the higher frequency of communication from "higher world" beings. This creates “resistance”, whereas the “dream state”, or “vision” state is a much easier medium for this type of communication.
A good example of this is Edgar Cayce, also known as, "The Sleeping Prophet". The Angels had to put him in an unconscious sleep state to “bypass” his conscious mind, because his conscious mind was “programmed” with religious teachings and concepts. Therefore, he had to be "put under" in order for these higher frequency "inspired" teachings to "come through". Spiritualist mediums similarly receive their inspired teachings, while in a "trance state".
Problems that seem too difficult to solve in the "waking" or conscious mind state are often solved by the subconscious mind in the sleep or "dream state". Let us try to understand that Angels and beings from higher worlds are higher frequency, they have to “step down” their vibrations like a step down transformer has to convert a higher frequency to a lower frequency. That is why we do not “really” receive inspired teachings or messages from the “departed” or “spirits” of the dead. They do not have the power to "raise" themselves. The communication comes from Angels who “impersonate” the deceased, in order to maintain comfort and contact with human beings.
I know it is very difficult for most people to understand the worlds of Angels. There are many recorded incidents in the Bible where religious figures have been contacted by ET's from UFOs and they have been ”recorded” in the bibles as Angels.
There are many accounts in the King James Bible of Angels coming to biblical characters to assure them that an upcoming battle with superior forces would be won by them.
In some instances Angels are sent as “messengers” to “warn” or to reassure certain people. The incident of Sodom and Gomorrah required Angels to warn Lot and his family to flee before the destruction of these cities would take place. Sometimes, Angels come as messengers to “predict” an important event.
There are many stories from ancient books and bibles of evil Angels pretending to be good in order to work their evil mischief. Sometimes evil Angels masquerade as priests or holy men to lead people astray and to confuse them. That is why Satan and his Angels are called, "The Great Deceivers". As we grow in evolution we develop an inner “radar" or a protective sense that warns us and protects us from doers of evil. I believe that there are good and evil Angels. I believe that at various times in the past there were “wars” in the "Heavens" between the good and evil Angels. I believe that these battles and wars were recorded in various bibles and ancient religions, as well as in mythology. I believe that very few people can “understand” the meaning of what is written in the bibles.
Most of us have had experiences with Angel messengers unbeknownst to ourselves. Sometimes we recognize them, sometimes we do not. Nobody has really seen an Angel in its “true” form, unless they have seen the brilliant "spark" of high energy electricity, which is the “true” energy form of an Angel.
Many times Angels or ETs from higher dimensional worlds are sent to lower worlds to raise the vibrations, or to monitor the activities of a planet or world system, if it is perceived that there is the danger of imminent self-destruction. This is what is being done on this planet at this time to protect the balance and integrity of the universe.
Angels are from different dimensional worlds and are able to circumvent the physical laws of our world. I believe that they have the power of “life-and-death” and that they are able to see the future and to manipulate time. Because we cannot comprehend this does not mean that it does not exist.”
“When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were very interested in UFOs. I was interested both in “psychic development” and UFOs and they wanted me to go with them to stay at the home of the UFO author, George Hunt Williamson in Arizona, because he was “contacting” UFOs.
I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience;
I went to bed that night, but before I went to sleep I had the conviction that I was going to meet a UFO that night and make a “contact”. I went to sleep, and I had a “dream”.
In this “dream” I saw myself at a “train station” that was “elevated” above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was “waiting” to meet someone from a UFO, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look “unusual”. I anticipated that “he” would have an “antenna” coming out of “his” head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody “abnormal looking”.
As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a “man” walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody “weird” and here was this “normal” looking “man” walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed “him” and he said to me, "Mr. Greif, I believe you're waiting for me".
I looked at “him” and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical “Madison Avenue” advertising man. When he said, “I believe you're waiting for me”, I knew that this was my "contact".
We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene “changed”. Instead of a modern street, it became a “biblical desert”.
Time was turned “back” to the time of the “Old Testament”, and I saw that this desert was a “plain” that “stretched out” in front of me. At the end of this plain was a “silver river”. We walked together “side-by-side” alongside this “river”."

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2008, 1:04pm

2. "As soon as this “scene” had changed, this “man” who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met “him”, started to “grow” until “he” became 6 feet tall and “his” clothes became the “biblical robes” of a prophet of the “Old Testament”. When I was walking next to “him”, I felt that I was in the presence of a being that was “God-like”. I was “awed” by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.
The being “talked” to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because “he” was taller than me and I wanted to hear what “he” was saying. I cannot remember the words, but I remember that “his” voice was like “pure liquid silver” and “his” words went through my ear and into my soul.
I was “told” at that time that I was given “teachings” that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words “when it was right for me to remember”, and that these words were impressed “deep into my soul”.
In July in the 1960s I was working at the Grand Central Post Office station in Manhattan as a clerk. I was hurrying to work and I knew that I must get to work on time or be “written up”. It was about 3:45 in the afternoon and it was a sunny day in July and the sidewalks were crowded with people.
I was south of Lexington Avenue and East 42nd Street and walking very briskly while trying to “dodge” the heavy pedestrian traffic. As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly “felt” that a “portion” of my skull in the back of my head had been “removed” in an area of about 5 inches in diameter.
It “felt” to me as if I was having a “lobotomy operation” and I could feel the “coolness” inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head became “numb”. This feeling of “numbness” was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the “pinching off” of a nerve.
Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an “eye” in this “missing” area of my head, a “disk shaped” UFO which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This “craft” was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle “magnetic breeze”. I was able to “see” into the “interior” of the UFO whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 6 inches tall. They all had white skin; black hair, grey eyes, and they all looked “identical” in appearance. They were each dressed in a “grey colored mechanics type overall”, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
My inner “feeling” was that these “men” were not physical persons or “life forms” as we know them but were manufactured artificial intelligence “constructions” that were “designed” to operate this UFO.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised “plastic type” molded chair. He was facing a “crescent shaped” keyboard that had rows of many different “colored lights” and he was not touching the “keys” with his hands but only passing his hands over the “keys” to activate the controls. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the “music organ at Radio City Music Hall”. I “knew” that this keyboard was the “operating panel” for this UFO.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the UFO toward the “center”. The third “man” was bent over a central “support column” which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the “center axis of a gyroscope”.
He was peering into a black “binocular type sighting device”, which somehow reminded me of a “Norden bomb-sight”. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.
Then, I saw what looked like a “steel cable” coming from the bottom of the UFO and connecting to the back of my head where I felt the “numbness”, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a “communication connection” had been made from this UFO to my brain.
The “cable” followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was “connected mentally” to that UFO.
During that day at work I tried to “believe” that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as a hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house, I saw a brilliant “flash” of “silver light” streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored “metallic object”. This “silver light” traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow.
At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, “exactly” 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a “confirmation” from the UFO that my experience had been real.”

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by waynegohl on Apr 30th, 2008, 11:20am

i have seen videos of greys but with all the different kinds of aliens that are supposed to be out there are there any pictures/videos of them around.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 1st, 2008, 3:30pm

waynegohl, why do you waste your time and energy trying to find photos or videos or descriptions of different types of ETs. Don't you realize by now that most ETs are artificial intelligence constructions or projections or holograms? ETs have the ability to be "shape shifters". The American Indians know about "shape shifters". If there are many different civilizations, then it stands to reason that there will be many different shapes and forms of ETs, according to the expectations of the viewers. It is not important what ETs look like but rather where they come from and what their purpose is in visiting us. Try to learn to think on a higher more universal level.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 2nd, 2008, 08:41am

There are certain consistencies in UFO and ET contacts. For instance, no matter what the shape or form of the UFO or of the ET occupants they all appear to be able to communicate in the language of the contactee. If the contactee is German they "speak" German if it is a Russian person , they "speak' Russian. Are the ETs multilingual? Or is the truth more simple. Is it possible that they do not vocally speak but rather they communicate via mental telepathy?

When our "Adam" experimental human race, [which we are all a part of], was first introduced on Earth the human beings did not have developed vocal cords and they did not speak words or have knowledge of any languages. They were able to communicate via mental telepathy with each other and the animals and birds. There was peace and tranquility and no wars.[This is recorded in the American Indians shamans stories which are been handed down from shaman to shaman].

Then, it was decided by the higher intelligences who are in charge of this human race experiment to "raise the bar" and to develop the vocal cords of the human race and to teach them to speak different languages.[There is a reference to this in the holy Bible to when "God" created the Tower of Babel [babble] so that all the races of Man would be confused and separated and competitive with each other].

The result was to separate the race of Man into different tribes and to remove from mankind "his" original abilities to communicate with nature and with all the creatures of nature.[Some psychic people even in our times are able to communicate with animals and with nature. We call these psychics "horse whisperers"].

The American Indians refer to the "Great Spirit" and they are respectful of nature and the creatures of nature. We who are supposed to be more "civilized" create wars for profit or for religious fanaticism and we abuse nature and the creatures of nature.

Let us reflect on this.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Lisa555 on May 2nd, 2008, 11:23am

99% videos are fake. cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by waynegohl on May 2nd, 2008, 2:39pm

on May 1st, 2008, 3:30pm, timetraveler wrote:
waynegohl, why do you waste your time and energy trying to find photos or videos or descriptions of different types of ETs. Don't you realize by now that most ETs are artificial intelligence constructions or projections or holograms? ETs have the ability to be "shape shifters". The American Indians know about "shape shifters". If there are many different civilizations, then it stands to reason that there will be many different shapes and forms of ETs, according to the expectations of the viewers. It is not important what ETs look like but rather where they come from and what their purpose is in visiting us. Try to learn to think on a higher more universal level.

What do you think? Irwyn


well where do i start? i do not waste my time looking for pictures or videos on what aliens look like. all i asked was are there other pics or videos about other alien races, so a simple yes or no would have been in order. learn to answer questions with some short and sweet answers next time.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 3rd, 2008, 2:57pm

I'm sorry if I have offended your. The answer is no I do not know where you can find any videos or photos of UFOs. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by waynegohl on May 3rd, 2008, 3:14pm

apology accepted.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Celestian Falcon on May 8th, 2008, 2:32pm

on May 1st, 2008, 3:30pm, timetraveler wrote:
waynegohl, why do you waste your time and energy trying to find photos or videos or descriptions of different types of ETs. Don't you realize by now that most ETs are artificial intelligence constructions or projections or holograms? ETs have the ability to be "shape shifters". The American Indians know about "shape shifters". If there are many different civilizations, then it stands to reason that there will be many different shapes and forms of ETs, according to the expectations of the viewers. It is not
important what ETs look like but rather where they
come from and what their purpose is in visiting us. Try to learn to think on a higher more universal level.

What do you think? Irwyn


timetraveler:

I know we have a lot in common about what we know about UFOs. Please allow me to share some unreal phenomenon about aliens with you: Yes, the aliens can holographically project themselves; but, the aliens can also reform back into their physical bodies after the holographic projection almost like Star Trek in "beam me up Scotty" or means of teleportation. The alien greys can use teleportation to walk through walls and obstacles and to enter and exit through other domains such as houses or homes. In the case of 1967 Malmstrom UFO missile base infiltration by a UFO, aliens could have used teleportations to manually shut down the missile base.

Here is a picture I have collected off the web that contains a teleporting alien from a UFO orb. We have all seen Fire in the Sky and how a person was teleported through a beam of light. I have been told that today, aliens can teleport from space.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by waynegohl on May 10th, 2008, 12:07am

with that in mind it seems they lose their ability to teleport once they are captured.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Izzie on May 15th, 2008, 12:08pm

OK i am new to this so....whatever i think that Aliens may have long fingers and big eyes and small chins like they are describes in sites!! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 15th, 2008, 12:50pm

Celestial falcon, why do you think that ETs revert back to their physical bodies? Why do you think that they necessarily have to have physical bodies? Don't you realize that if you need a physical body to operate a physical spacecraft you can create it? I think we have to go beyond Star Trek, don't you?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 28th, 2008, 11:59am

This is for all my friends. I have agreed to be a guest speaker on a UK radio talk show this Saturday. I am posting the pertinent e-mail.

"Hi my name is Paul Ripley I am a presenter on a web based radio show ( the most listened to independant radio station in the UK) www.manchesterradioonline.com .We have just started a show on Saturday nights called “Exploring the Unexplained”. I would like to call you and put you on live during the show, this would be between 11.00pm -1 am UK time or 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the web radio show. on Saturday. Paul"


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 5th, 2008, 11:31am

The radio web show in which I was a guest speaker and which originated from Manchester in England was a success and I enjoyed being a guest. I have agreed to speak as a guest on future shows. Stay tuned!

http://www.manchesterradioonline.com/

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 9th, 2008, 1:20pm

FYI, UFOcasebook has about 5000 members. http://www.manchesterradioonline.com/ claims to have about 5 million listeners in the UK. I'm very excited about this radio web program and I hope to be a repeat guest.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Skeptik on Jun 12th, 2008, 5:56pm

Forgive me if this has already been discussed somewhere in this very long thread but... what if aliens are hideous to humans... and they know it?

We are built like we are because our genes responded to the practical needs of early man. Death and survival weeded out the non-functional. Our height gives us a good view. Our eyes and ears give stereo vision and directional hearing. Our nose filters out dust and germs and stops the rain running straight into our lungs. Our highly manipulative hands have opposed thumbs for gripping tools. etc. etc.

We have so many inbuilt ideas on how humans and animals should look and move. A runny nose, nasty spots or an odd look in the eye and we run a mile or attack in self defense. We are so used to our own idea of what people should look like that we even have surgery to make us look more like the perfect models of the time. 50 years ago most of them wouldn't get a sideways glance. Or would be arrested over most of the world for dressing as they do today. We have thousands of unconscious behaviours and habits which prove instantly to others that we are human and normal and safe. We can instantly tell the mood, how attractive they are, whether they are happy, confused, ill, hungry, tired, lost or in a rage. We have standard behaviours beyond which nobody dare go without acknowledgment or a very close relationship. Actors, comedians, politicians, religious persons all have their own different forms of speech and fulfill our preordained expectations. Their body language is all fixed in our acceptance of normal human behaviour. Almost from birth we are taught how to behave. Who we are and who isn't like us. We recognise deformity, disease, colour, race, the disabled and those with psychological problems completely without effort. We are trained to recognise defects in others to protect ourselves from harm or disease. Or to protect the person with a defect or a disease from harm. It is only in the last twenty odd years that we have adjusted to a global human race with all colours and races getting (well almost) equal rights. (Provided they behave themselves)

An android or robot cannot yet behave like a human being. Most of us get uncomfortable even in the presence of a shop dummy at close quarters. So what are we to make of the alien with his strange features, odd way of walking and unpleasant smell? Or the nine foot gorgeous blond with three legs and a tail? Or her knees bending backwards? Are we revolted, fascinated, afraid or attracted? Can we really cope with something which/whom is so unlike us? Even when our long history proves completely otherwise?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Jun 13th, 2008, 07:09am

If humans were a product of evolution, yes that would be a good theory.

Personally, I don't believe humans have naturally evolved from earlier primate creatures. At best, I'd say we are a mixture of earth primates and an alien race. But that doesn't diminish alien intervention in my belief system, because I think the very first cell on Earth was also designed by otherworldly beings, in much the same way we today design genes from scratch using chemical synthesis rather than modification of existing genes.
As for humans, I think, either we have been the product of modification of earlier primates, or have been placed here as we were, but again designed using the same total synthesis of DNA.

As for real natural abiogenesis and evolution as taught by our modern science. I'm not sure if it ever existed anywhere in the universe. That's just my opinion.
I guess you could call me a UFO-creationist


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 13th, 2008, 3:27pm

Would you believe that I agree with trilex345 to a great extent. However, in any creation of a species there has to be a model or a prototype to work from. Darwin and science do not suppliy us with the correct answers, in my opinion and belief. However, there are those who who believe that different copies of the human race exist throughout the universe? This is the same type of mentality that believes that God is a male personage and resembles us?


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 13th, 2008, 5:11pm

The Creator has no form he/she or it can choose any form, because the Creator is an energy force like to he rest of us if you took away our bodies whats left is energy, just as the trees and earth and animals everything has this energy, including the Aliens. Which the Creator has also created them, and everything that is in our galaxy all of this was created from the energy from the one, the most highest of the smaller creators. He/she/it has also created smaller Creators to help him/her/it with the other planets that he/she/it has created. Just ask any First Nations True Elder, they should know this stuff as well.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 15th, 2008, 09:35am

I have corrected my previous posting. Sorry for my error.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Jun 15th, 2008, 10:03am

Whitewolf wrote
Quote:
The Creator has no form he/she or it can choose any form, because the Creator is an energy force like to he rest of us if you took away our bodies whats left is energy, just as the trees and earth and animals everything has this energy, including the Aliens. Which the Creator has also created them, and everything that is in our galaxy all of this was created from the energy from the one,


I agree with you.

Luvey

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 19th, 2008, 09:29am

I agree with White Wolf. However, it gets more interesting than this explanation. If all and everything is part of the Creator that makes it impossible to separate the Creator from its creations to be defined as a single or separate entity!


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 19th, 2008, 12:34pm

Hi Timetraveler;
Thats an interesting question, the funny thing is we all are a part of him/her/it the one Creator its like we are a spec of dust from his/her/its very being, sent here/there/everywhere to learn then when we have learned all that we can from this earth or any other planet then we return to him/her/it to tell him/her/it what we have learned here. Then he/she/it will let us have the choice wether to come back and be reborn or to remain in the other plain of exsistance the choice is ours. Because we are only a spec of him/her/it we will not know the whole truth of him/her/it. He/she/it only lets us know what he/she/it wants us to. Does that explain it enough for you. I'm not to sure how else to explain it, for the reason of the energy all being one but separate. hope this answers you question much love whitewolf.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 19th, 2008, 3:24pm

Whitewolf, in my book," Other Dimensions" I recount an experience which I had in which for a few seconds, or microseconds, I was one with the Creator and creation. In that brief period I knew everything. This cosmic consciousness experience changed my life and my values systems and I knew that everything, large or small, was connected.

I have had to raise my level of consciousness to better understand why the Creator had the need to create? Also, I have deleted the word perfect from my dictionary because it cannot exist and nothing can ever be perfect. Do you understand this?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 19th, 2008, 9:39pm

HI Timetraveler,

I'm glad to see you understand and that you are right nothing is perfect, everything has a purpose thou, do you agree. It makes my heart happy that a few are coming to see what I have always known. If you would like to know more just ask I will do the best I can to answer you, I was thinking of starting a new thread about the pyramids in Egypt for I know why they were really build and its not what arcyologygists think it was for because they are older than the pharo cufu. That they are linked to the alien races. I could go on but I do not know how that will be recieved by others. So I shall remain sillent unless otherwise asked.

all my love whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by diamount on Jun 20th, 2008, 01:30am

I've seen quite a large amount of photos where one was like a humanoid with scaly skin, like a reptile and another like the one with an oval shaped head and big black eyes.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2008, 08:05am

WhiteWolf, I am so happy to have found your. It's been my dream for many years to have a powwow with the elders and shamans and medicine men of all of the different tribes to share our information and beliefs. My information is from Angels and UFOs and the American Indians receive their information from meditation with the Great Spirit. It is time now to upgrade and update the information and to move to a higher level of consciousness and understanding.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2008, 08:11am

Diamount, what you have described is the Saurian race who created our physical bodies and who are in charge of the laboratory UFOs manned by artificial intelligence "Greys".

Welcome aboard this forum!



What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2008, 08:21am

WhiteWolf, we have an obligation to share our information and to communicate. I have written a book which will be understood by a very small percentage of people, but these are the people that I must reach. It is time for some of us to awaken and remember and make contact with our higher intelligence. The Angels need our help in this humongous transition into the "new" human race. Do not be afraid to communicate as only those who are ready to hear it will be awakened.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 20th, 2008, 11:37am

Hi Timetraveler,
I know who you are and we probably have already meet each other throu dream, and yes it is time to make aware to those who are ready the new transition, I hope to one day meet you physically which if it is already happening we might meet sooner. I am already gathering many people around me from all over the world I do this through dream and my alien freinds the greys I sometimes use to pick people up and bring them to me if they are to far away. I live in Alberta Canada near Edmonton. If you wish to meet me personally this summer I'll begin teaching those who know who I am, how to transform consousiousness, and learn the acient ways older than the pyramids, we really need to talk in person. We'll be doing old cerimonies that have been forgotten throu time. As well as going to a sundance this summer in sweetgrass saskatchewn. here from you soon with all my Love whitewolf. email me whitewolfmentor@hotmail.com hope to see you soon
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 20th, 2008, 3:34pm

whitewolf, I am 78 years old and I live in Florida and I do not like to fly on airplanes. It would be nice to meet you physically somehow, somewhere. You are correct in believing that the ancient ways are good to follow but there is a need at this time to learn the ways of the Angels. At this time the major religions are engaged in unholy war and if not monitored they will destroy the human race. They do not have a clue as to the "Cosmic Universal Plan" or to the understanding of life and creation. When we communicate on a higher level and frequency we are helping to raise the consciousness level of the human race and enabling the Angels to subliminally seed the minds and consciousness of people to prepare for the new hybrid human race. I have seen proof of this. Therefore, we are workers and helpers.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 20th, 2008, 11:31pm

Hi timetraveler
whats your book called and is it out yet, and were can I pick one up. I would like to write a book as well but I have no idea how to start lol. Maybe you could write it for me lol just kidding.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 21st, 2008, 08:41am

Whitewolf, my newest book is entitled," Other Dimensions" and it is available from Barnes & Noble, Borders and Amazon in either bookstores or online. My book attempts to simplify Creator and creation and to explain why and how the human race was created. I am very excited about this book I absolutely recommend it for "consciousness raising". Irwyn


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by AncyentLyght on Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:49pm

Hey, timetraveler, your book sounds interesting. I hope your book is at Borders books, I'll check.

I don't much care for angels, considering (knowing) them as both good & bad. But I see you mention ufo involvement, so perhaps you explain yourself as associated.

I'm an oldster too, met aliens face-to-face (c'mon, laugh), in my BoL; also have much related experience, but doesn't mean 2 coincide, I found that out. I presume you've embraced the new race move, good. The old Homo x is horrifying in the extreme. Won't be sad to see them go, and possibly return if they get a chance, remade.

I hope you're not afraid of a little discussion with an open mind?

Anyone else awakening to their existence in multidimensionality? It's happening everywhere, tho' many are not aware that their insights and attitudes are reflections of that fact. C'mon back.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 23rd, 2008, 1:21pm

AL, I welcome discussions with people who are seeking answers and understanding. My latest book, "Other Dimensions" attempts to simplify and to clarify some of the profound mysteries of existence. Welcome aboard! I shall also be a guest speaker every four weeks on a Manchester UK radio online show entitled, "Explaining The Unexplained". I shall keep this forum posted regarding the broadcast dates. This radio show can be accessed on the computer. Stay tuned! Irwyn

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 24th, 2008, 11:12am

To all my friends; please mark your calendars to watch my future appearances on the UK radio online show entitled, "Exploring the Unexplained". www.manchesterradioonline.com on Saturday nights, July 19, August 16, September 13, October 11, at about 12:30 UK time or 6-8 PM EST time. [They claim that 5 million listeners listen to this radio web show and that it is the most listened to independent radio station in the UK!]
www.manchesterradioonline.com

Stay Tuned! Thank you, Irwyn [Timetraveler]

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jq on Jun 27th, 2008, 8:43pm

I have always been drawn to the idea of UFO's. I can't say that I have ever seEn one. I wish I could say that I have. People say becareful what you wish for..but I KNOW that it is impossible for this planet ... in all of outer space... to be the only intellgent life. That is IMPOSSIBLE. I whatch all the shows and listen to all the news reports about sightings.. I can't help but be drawn to it like a moth to a flame. Why is that? Is there something wrong with me? Why do I feel like such a fool around my husband when I talk about it and he makes fun of me? I am dead serious about it.. I just wish one night when I'm on my back porch with him talking.. that something cathes his eye and he points it out to me.. that we both have a frozen feeling inside where we can't move.. we're afraid to.. that our minds are racing with thoughts of denial .. but also thoughts of clarity... DOES ANYONE RELATE TO HOW I FEEL?


on Sep 28th, 2002, 11:42am, B J Booth wrote:
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Aliens come in all shapes and sizes. The most common ones are the so-called grays. There are also the Nordics, the Reptilians, etc.. If we actually make official contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence, what do yo think they would look like?



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jq on Jun 27th, 2008, 8:52pm

Do you believe in God? Or a Creator of all? I ask because.. if God didn't create us.. then who created outer space? Who created the intelligent life that visits our planet? Who created "dimensions" ? ... Or has it always been?

on Jun 23rd, 2008, 1:21pm, timetraveler wrote:
AL, I welcome discussions with people who are seeking answers and understanding. My latest book, "Other Dimensions" attempts to simplify and to clarify some of the profound mysteries of existence. Welcome aboard! I shall also be a guest speaker every four weeks on a Manchester UK radio online show entitled, "Explaining The Unexplained". I shall keep this forum posted regarding the broadcast dates. This radio show can be accessed on the computer. Stay tuned! Irwyn

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:07am

Hi Jq,
Yes there is a Creator of the most high who created all that you can see and can't see, He also created other Creators in which look after his creations for him. And do not feel alone your never alone, even if your husband does not believe you and makes fun of you, because if you yourself believe then it does not matter that your husband should believe, for he will be the one in the end that will look funny to others when it happens. My husband is the same way and yet I have taken him on many a trip in a UFO to try and make him believe, and he was very scared, but in the morning he would never remember then he would ask how come you didn't get the aliens to fix my reciding hair line, he said he would believe if they could fix his hair. But that will never happen they are above that. The reason he will never remember any of the trips I took him on is because there crafts erase memories from as far away as 2 km so if you believe never worry about anyone else's opinion but your own, you are who you are. I will always believe you and so will many others who have that special connection, with the other realms. Love always the one who watches all.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jul 21st, 2008, 1:39pm

I can't remember but someone had mentioned meeting a young blonde woman on an obduction once they said she was very beautiful, not very tall I was wondering if you got a good look at her eyes and if they were green because she is my daughter. I had her when I was about 13 years old, I had to show the greys that inorder to keep a child alive they had to hold her, so that she could feel loved. When I asked them if that was my daughter that was crying they said yes. she would be about in her mid to late 20's right now. I'm going to ask my friends the greys if they would let me spend the summer with her to teach her a few things. This is going to be exciting seeings how I haven't seen her since I was 15 years old. Thou on and off I would visit her spiritualy. So if she has green eyes let me know.

Love always the one who watches all Whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:19am

WW, if your daughter is part of the new hybrid race then she will be part human and part Saurian. If that is the case then I doubt if you could teach her anything. The new hybrid race has expanded intelligence and psychic powers and does not use the old human system of reproduction in the womb. The female "greys" are supposed to nurture the hybrid offspring which includes regular visits with their human mother. Be happy for her that she has escaped the "wheel of karma" and is not limited to the human condition.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:41am

Hi Timetraveler,
I was just informed by the higher beings that she is just now being taught how to tap into her phycic powers, and in that I have much knowledge because of who I am. I am also the watcher or helper of all other planets not just this one, so yes I have kept my eye on her and would like to show her more. When the time is right for us to meet we will.

Love always the one who watches all Whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rjc on Aug 3rd, 2008, 6:41pm

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS VISITING THIS PLANET ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, (REALISTICALLY), WELL, I JUST DONT KNOW. THERE ARE THE OBVIOUS STEREOTYPICAL ALIENS, SUCH AS GREYS AND GREENS BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE, MOST WILL TAKE HUMAN FORM, WHILST RESIDING ON OR JUST VISITING THIS PLANET. THE REASON I THINK THIS IS, TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED SO QUICKLY OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND WHATS TO SAY THAT AN ALIEN BEING ISNT WORKING BESIDES EVEN OURSELVES IN THE WORK PLACE, HELPING TO TEACH US NEW TECHNOLOGY AND NEW WAYS OF DOING THINGS. I MIGHT NOT KNOW IT, BUT I COULD BE WORKING WITH AN ALIEN TOMORROW, WHO KNOWS? I ALSO THINK, IN THE FUTURE, TIME TRAVEL HAS HAPPENED AND THE UFOS WE MAY SEE ON OCCASSIONS ARE THOSE CRAFTS FROM OUR FUTURE, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, VISITING US, HERE, NOW!! I KNOW THAT PART WASNT RELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC, BUT I AM A NEW MEMBER, PLEASE FORGIVE ME! RJC
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by creolelady on Aug 3rd, 2008, 9:41pm

Well, you covered a lot in that post! smiley
Welcome to the forum rjc.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by matlivo on Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:05pm

a feasable thought rjc, and some concur.
(obviously dependant on that technology becoming a reality in the future)

might also explain why they do not come down and mingle with us.

++++++++

personally, am still leaning heavily towards an 'alien' hypothesis.

cheers all smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Aug 4th, 2008, 09:27am

Welcome to rjc: I believe you're right on the mark. ETs and UFOs and Angels usually appear to us in human form so that we can accept them without stress or shock. You are correct in that they monitor us and teach us new technology, but I do not believe that they will teach us time travel into other dimensions. We have a history of polluting and corrupting our own civilization ,therefore, why would they invite us to corrupt other civilizations in other dimensions? We are in the final days of this civilization and by 2010 UFO abductions will cease because the new hybrid race of the next generation of human beings will be ready. But do not be worried or concerned because they will evacuate us in the fourth Exodus.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by mikephoto on Aug 10th, 2008, 1:23pm

I think maybe some look just like us just a bit taller and bigger everything!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Aug 11th, 2008, 10:51am

There are some that do appear as humans to be more acceptable, yes, but those usually appear in jeans and shirts...

but when you see a being with pure white skin and hair and 7 feet tall, appearing to non-related humans, that has little to do with projection of acceptable images...

I mean why appear higher than a regular human with non-natural hair and skin color and weird looking clothing and no sexual organs?

Or even the blondes, or nordics, why blonde , why not put in some dark haired human projections in there, why blond with blue eyes?

Or how about this:
a tall human figure with olive-green-colored skin? Who's idea of a regular human is that?

That being said, there is such a thing as de-forming of any of their bodies into pure "light". But that doesn't mean their bodies are not physical , or at least "physical" but on a different plane.
Now there are as crazy things as accounts of grays changing into a form of light and passing into the world of light where people usually go when the have an NDE, together with an abducted spirit (body left on the ship), then going back, but when they do come back they have highly consistent gray form, as well as all the other species out there.
That's the difference between our civilization and theirs. We are stuck in our bodies most of the time, while they have doors and passageways back into the spirit world, in fact some of them are gatekeepers of that, it's their job, it's a combination of spirit and technology.
And I'm not talking astral projection here or meditation, but actual doorways through which anyone can be taken by a little help of technology they use.
Or how about this: invisible ships floating above battlefields collecting spirits of dead soldiers as they get killed seen in an OBE account of surviving soldier....

I think this is how our culture will be in the next world, we will also have access to such gateways, the veil between this world and the spirit world will be partially lifted.
That is also one reason of so much confusion when it comes to aliens in terms of whether they are physical or not or whether they really look like they look.
I think they do, but they also travel between dimensions and into the world of light, call if NDE at will if you like.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by iwantobelieve on Aug 11th, 2008, 10:07pm

With the variety of life here on Earth that have adapted to suit their existence ie: animals and insects. Surely then if Aliens do exist, why would they have the same body shapes as us?.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Aug 12th, 2008, 06:43am

Because life is more universal than you might think. Life was seeded on Earth, not once but 3 times so far. The 4th time it was preserved when we got to the point we are here now, and right now it is collected to be seeded again in case we fail to cross into the new age.

Remember, you are not dealing with some cheesy green men from mars, you are dealing with beings which can be immortal, travel time and dimensions, control planets and stars and processes which last millions of years.

Human beings are not a product of adaptation and evolution, the original form of human shape exists on many other worlds and is ancient, with variations.
Our version of the human form is a combination of the original human form and the form of earthly primates.


So your question is a bit like asking, ok how come
two farmers have the same kind of plant in two gardens which have nothing to do with each other.
Well they trade seed, and plant whatever they wish.

There is also a lot of "slavery" going on. Multiple societies can be found having same species of work force (like grays).

Also, there is more to life than just adaptation to environment, physical life is projection of consciousness, and not the other way around. Life originated in spirit form, and evolved into physical world.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by eagleyeuk on Aug 18th, 2008, 09:25am

Is this a trick question? perhaps bj could tell us his veiw?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Aug 20th, 2008, 4:18pm

Greetings to all,

I wanted to share that this forum resonated with me. I was researching the current topic (art and design) for my college admission essay last night, and ended up here. I stayed up until 3 am reading all of the replies. It was very informative. I was born in former Soviet Union, and we only started getting any sort of information on UFOs after the fall in 1991. I have never experienced a UFO (i think), though a few people around me have;i think i have always been open to the idea (though, i was always knew i'd be afraid to be terrified- funny, and doesn't make much sense, i know). I believe in higher power, and do not believe that humans originated from primates (at least, not primates alone), and that human history can be fit into a short period of time, as modern history suggets. I think that maybe the fact that i have always resided in a large metropolis probably prevented me from any experience with UFOs. I have always had psychic abilities, but mostly they have been concerning me- giving me glimpses into the future (all of them came true)- and they come to me in a sporadic, and sometimes vague manner. Last night, after reading, i asked to be spoken to in my dream. I had to wake up early, and from what i remember, there was not anything unusual in my dream. There's, however, one thing- 2 days ago, i thought of planning a trip to Canary Islands via Madrid next New Years. And today, a spanish airliner flying from Madrid to Canary Islands crashed. I hope this isn't confusing, but my question is- is it a coincidence? Am i having delusions of grandeur? What do you think? Do you have some sort of advice? Thank you in advance.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by eagleyeuk on Aug 21st, 2008, 07:58am

No grandeur, if your are gifted it can be in many ways and very spasmodic,you can be clairvoyant to prove and help others understand, a healer to give temporary relief, this is complex matter as some people gain permanent relief.If you have never seen ufo--do not be disappointed they roam city and green--they can find you to. just do your best, that's all is asked smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by mikephoto on Aug 28th, 2008, 05:41am

eagleyeuk, the hole of the uk has seen what aliens look like! Did you not see The Sun newspaper the other day had one on the front page. It was fat and slimey and had really ruff skin.
























I think they are calling it Gary Glitter?
cheesy

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 2nd, 2008, 3:50pm

I would like to reply to trilex345. I think that you are very accurate in what you say and this coincides with my information. There have been three Exodus on this planet already and the fourth might be planned for 2012. Stay tuned!

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Sep 4th, 2008, 10:50am

Hm I'm just curious whether we have been getting the same info....

The first 2 times there were no intelligent vessels for incarnation, the third time there was but with too much knowledge, too little spirituality (sort of like now)

In other words, I wasn't trying to say civilizations were wiped out 3 times, just once, but 3 times that biological life was left to be destroyed.

Is that along the lines of what you have heard?

I'm not sure, but I think our current cycle began somewhere about 10 000 years ago or so, at that time, people were still aware of the previous one, but all the knowledge they had turned into myths and folklore by the time the "first" civilizations that we know of were formed.
This period is somewhat illustrated by the Biblical story of Noah and his progeny.
But of course it is not to be taken literally, as Noah probably represents a whole bunch of people who were saved, rather than one person. I think the early biblical literature often uses persons to represent groups, kingdoms, dynasties or even abstract things such as ideals etc.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 5th, 2008, 1:06pm

It appears as if we are receiving higher information from different sources. As I have mentioned in my book, "Other Dimensions" there have been three Exodus so far. The first Exodus was the Ice Age,[10 million B.C.?]. The second Exodus was the destruction of Atlantis[150,000 B.C. ]. The third Exodus was the Noah flood mentioned in the Bible. The possible fourth Exodus may be scheduled for 2012? In all of these Exodus selected life forms were removed from this planet by UFOs.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by P4MK on Sep 6th, 2008, 11:22pm

Eagle friend is right, gifted and spasmodic. Goes a long way!

Everyones going to be alright. YOu are where youre suppose to be. Do the best you can.

The last alien I saw was the typical grey. Stern attitude for sure.

They have there reasons just like us. Stop getting all up in this. Dont listen to the hype.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by El Charrua on Sep 9th, 2008, 09:36am

I found this , I dont know if it has been posted before .

I dont know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZyYHPOySuM&feature=related

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Sep 9th, 2008, 10:12am

Anyone heard about Baba Vanga predictions?
She gave a precise forecast for the next 500 years and said that aliens are among us. Hmmm...
Of course she also said things about Kursk and everyone thought she was referring to a city in southern Russia, but she meant a nuclear submarine.
She was blind and she "saw". I wonder if she saw what ETs look like.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by mikephoto on Sep 11th, 2008, 7:05pm

on Sep 9th, 2008, 10:12am, milesaway wrote:
Anyone heard about Baba Vanga predictions?
She gave a precise forecast for the next 500 years and said that aliens are among us. Hmmm...
Of course she also said things about Kursk and everyone thought she was referring to a city in southern Russia, but she meant a nuclear submarine.
She was blind and she "saw". I wonder if she saw what ETs look like.

she also said the world would end in 2061
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Sep 11th, 2008, 7:12pm

Here's the list, some of it is out there, alien-related in bold:
2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII.
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.
2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left. Muslims will begin chemical war against Europeans who are still alive.
2014 - Most of the people in this world will have skin cancer and skin related diseases. (as a result of chemical wars).
2016 - Europe is almost empty
2018 - China becomes the new world power.
2023 - Earth’s orbit will change slightly
2025 - Europe is still barely populated
2028 - Development of a new energy source. (Probably controller thermonuclear reaction) Hunger slowly stops being a problem. Piloted spaceship to Venus deploys.
2033 - Polar ice caps melt. World ocean levels rise.
2043 - World economy is prosperous. Muslims are running Europe.
2046 - Any organs can be mass produced. Exchange of body organs becomes the favorite method of treatment.
2066 - During it’s attack on Rome (which is under control of the Muslims) U.S.A. uses a new method of weapons - has to do with climate change. Sharp freezing.
2076 - No class society (communism)
2084 - The rebirth of the nature.
2088 - New disease. - People are getting old in few seconds.
2097 - This disease is cured.
2100 - Man made Sun is lighting up the dark side of the planet Earth.
2111 - People become robots.
2123 - Wars between small countries. Big countries don’t get evolved.
2125 - In Hungry the signals from Space are received. (People will be reminded of Vanga again)
2130 - Colonies under water (advices from aliens)
2154 - Animals become half-humans.
2167 - New religion
2170 - Big drought.
2183 - Collony on Mars becomes nuclear nation and is asking for independence from the Earth. (same way as U.S. did from England)
2187 - Successfully two volcano eruptions are stopped.
2195 - Sea colonies are fully supplied with energy and food.
2196 - Full mixture between Asians and Europeans.
2201 - Thermonuclear reactions on the Sun slow down. Temperatures Drop.
2221 - In the search of Alien life, human beings engage with something very freighting.
2256 - Spaceship brings a freighting new disease into Earth.
2262 - Orbits of planets start to change progressively. Mars is undera threat of being hit by a comet.
2271 - Physic properties are calculated over, since they changed.
2273 - Mix of yellow, white, and black race. New race.
2279 - Energy out of nothing (probably from vacuum or black holes)
2288 - Travel through time. New contacts with the aliens.
2291 - Sun cools. Attempts to fire it up again are taken.
2296 - Bright flashes on the Sun. Force of gravity changes. Old space stations and satellites begin to fall
2299 - In France, there is a partisan uprising against Islam.
2302 - New important new laws and mysteries about the universe are uncovered.
2304 - The mystery of the Moon is uncovered.
2341 - Something frightening is closing in with Earth from the space.
2354 - Accident on one of the man made suns, will result in drought.
2371 - Mighty hunger.
2378 - New and fast growing race.
2480 - Two man made suns will collide. Earth is in the dark.
3005 - War on Mars. Trajectory of planets changes.
3010 - Comet will ram into the Moon. Around Earth there is a belt of rocks and dust.
3797 - By this time, everything living on Earth dies. But humans are able to put in the essentials for the beginning of a new life in a new star system.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on Sep 17th, 2008, 2:27pm

on Sep 28th, 2002, 11:42am, B J Booth wrote:
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Aliens come in all shapes and sizes. The most common ones are the so-called grays. There are also the Nordics, the Reptilians, etc.. If we actually make official contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence, what do yo think they would look like?




TEXT I'm sure we all have our own thoughts on the subect of what alien life looks like. I believe life takes many forms, as evidenced by the miriad of same on our planet alone. I suspect there are off-world intelligences that resemble us closely, and others that do so not at all! It would seem to me that we are dealing not only with material and physical realms from which these beings originate, (i.e., other planets, systems, etc), but with different dimensions and frequencies inherent within such as well! Some of the amazing maneuvers UFO's perform that fly in the face of known physics are made possible by virture of their not being "physical" in the sense we know it... in other words, not three-dimensional expressions. Some UFO's and their their occupants occupy a higher dimension plain, consisting of more refined substance which is less dense and vibrates at a faster rate of speed. In some instances, they would not even be visible to us, and in fact it is ONLY possible for them to be seen by us if one of two things occurs: one, they deliberately slow their vibrations so as to manifest in denser form, OR two, they have some means by which they are able to quicken OUR frequencies, so that we are temporarily altered in some way that enables us to enter their realm! This is often the case with contactees, and may even be so with some of the abductees who report being "floated" out of their beds, passing through walls, and in general experiencing what feels like a surreal event.

This next statement will no doubt be controversial and vehemently contradicted by many, but while I honor the right of all ones to hold opinions at variance with my own, I stand by it never-the-less. Here goes:

Aliens are part of the same cosmic creation as we are, and as such are our sibblings! None of us "come" from earth (or any other planet!), we "come" TO earth, from the heart of Divine Oneness, which is the source of all onsciousness! So regardless of the many forms life may take throughout this vast and varied cosmos, they are us and we are them, and we are all "related"! grin Chew on THAT for awhile! wink
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 17th, 2008, 2:39pm

This reply is made to the seeker.

I agree with what you said and I applaud you for being a free thinker with an open mind. I think that you have captured the essence of the truth and I am delighted to find an intelligent person. PS please watch my UK radio online next guest appearance as I will be discussing the Creator and its creations.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on Sep 18th, 2008, 2:17pm

on Sep 17th, 2008, 2:39pm, timetraveler wrote:
This reply is made to the seeker.

I agree with what you said and I applaud you for being a free thinker with an open mind. I think that you have captured the essence of the truth and I am delighted to find an intelligent person. PS please watch my UK radio online next guest appearance as I will be discussing the Creator and its creations.

Thank you, Timetraveler! I am delighted to meet another of like mind regarding this contraversial view I hold and espouse....! wink I will be happy to check out your radio program.... is it accessed by the link at the bottom of your post?

Peace!
Caroll

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dmstyres on Sep 22nd, 2008, 8:04pm

I bet there not easy to look at.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Sep 23rd, 2008, 03:40am

The human types are quite easy to look at. Usually they are perfect in their genotype and phenotype, without the deformations we carry around here on Earth. Also their bodies are very efficient, unlike ours, having a sleek yet muscular form. Their women are quite beautiful, and stay young for centuries, lol.
I want to reincarnate with the blonds in my next life.

Just joking, I want to be an energy being, I'm sick of having to perform toilette hygiene every day and eat dead animal limbs
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 23rd, 2008, 12:02pm

This is a reply to trilex345. Although you haven't got a clue yet as to what the new experimental hybrid human race will look like, you are lucky because it will not resemble the intelligent animal "Adam" human race that exists now. All of the animal qualities will be gone, including animal sex, animal sanitary needs, etc. Be happy with these anticipations! Listen to my UK radio online show and I will give you more information.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by trilex345 on Sep 23rd, 2008, 2:05pm

Well I'm glad. But the human form as we know it will exist on in different parts of the universe. We are not the only humans. These humans here might be extinct but there are others. The Watchers are also human like.

But anything that doesn't use toilet paper , I'll incarnate into it.. lol
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 23rd, 2008, 3:33pm

trilex345; sorry to disappoint you but we are the only human/animal form in the Universe. The Saurians designed and created our bodies based on their vertebrae, which is that of a lizard. Therefore, our bodies design is an "Earth original".


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 09:50am

on Sep 11th, 2008, 7:12pm, milesaway wrote:
Here's the list, some of it is out there, alien-related in bold:
2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII.
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.
2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left. Muslims will begin chemical war against Europeans who are still alive.
2014 - Most of the people in this world will have skin cancer and skin related diseases. (as a result of chemical wars).
2016 - Europe is almost empty
2018 - China becomes the new world power.
2023 - Earth’s orbit will change slightly
2025 - Europe is still barely populated
2028 - Development of a new energy source. (Probably controller thermonuclear reaction) Hunger slowly stops being a problem. Piloted spaceship to Venus deploys.
2033 - Polar ice caps melt. World ocean levels rise.
2043 - World economy is prosperous. Muslims are running Europe.
2046 - Any organs can be mass produced. Exchange of body organs becomes the favorite method of treatment.
2066 - During it’s attack on Rome (which is under control of the Muslims) U.S.A. uses a new method of weapons - has to do with climate change. Sharp freezing.
2076 - No class society (communism)
2084 - The rebirth of the nature.
2088 - New disease. - People are getting old in few seconds.
2097 - This disease is cured.
2100 - Man made Sun is lighting up the dark side of the planet Earth.
2111 - People become robots.
2123 - Wars between small countries. Big countries don’t get evolved.
2125 - In Hungry the signals from Space are received. (People will be reminded of Vanga again)
2130 - Colonies under water (advices from aliens)
2154 - Animals become half-humans.
2167 - New religion
2170 - Big drought.
2183 - Collony on Mars becomes nuclear nation and is asking for independence from the Earth. (same way as U.S. did from England)
2187 - Successfully two volcano eruptions are stopped.
2195 - Sea colonies are fully supplied with energy and food.
2196 - Full mixture between Asians and Europeans.
2201 - Thermonuclear reactions on the Sun slow down. Temperatures Drop.
2221 - In the search of Alien life, human beings engage with something very freighting.
2256 - Spaceship brings a freighting new disease into Earth.
2262 - Orbits of planets start to change progressively. Mars is undera threat of being hit by a comet.
2271 - Physic properties are calculated over, since they changed.
2273 - Mix of yellow, white, and black race. New race.
2279 - Energy out of nothing (probably from vacuum or black holes)
2288 - Travel through time. New contacts with the aliens.
2291 - Sun cools. Attempts to fire it up again are taken.
2296 - Bright flashes on the Sun. Force of gravity changes. Old space stations and satellites begin to fall
2299 - In France, there is a partisan uprising against Islam.
2302 - New important new laws and mysteries about the universe are uncovered.
2304 - The mystery of the Moon is uncovered.
2341 - Something frightening is closing in with Earth from the space.
2354 - Accident on one of the man made suns, will result in drought.
2371 - Mighty hunger.
2378 - New and fast growing race.
2480 - Two man made suns will collide. Earth is in the dark.
3005 - War on Mars. Trajectory of planets changes.
3010 - Comet will ram into the Moon. Around Earth there is a belt of rocks and dust.
3797 - By this time, everything living on Earth dies. But humans are able to put in the essentials for the beginning of a new life in a new star system.


Lies. From 2012 21th December will be no religion, Earth human. In 2008 14th October Galactic Confederation mother-ship will come to Earth. All what you just said now is lies.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 09:52am

on Sep 23rd, 2008, 3:33pm, timetraveler wrote:
trilex345; sorry to disappoint you but we are the only human/animal form in the Universe. The Saurians designed and created our bodies based on their vertebrae, which is that of a lizard. Therefore, our bodies design is an "Earth original".


What do you think? Irwyn


More lies! Where do you get this wrong information?
Pleiadians created Earth humans not Saurians! Pleiadians look like us
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 12:31pm

I'm sorry to bother you, but, where did you get that list from?

Do you actually believe in that?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 12:47pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 09:50am, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
Lies. From 2012 21th December will be no religion, Earth human. In 2008 14th October Galactic Confederation mother-ship will come to Earth. All what you just said now is lies.


I don't believe it, but, even if mother ship comes, I think it will come stealthy.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 12:49pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 12:47pm, MIAMISKYLINE wrote:


I don't believe it, but, even if mother ship comes, I think it will come stealthy.


No. All will see it
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:06pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 12:49pm, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
No. All will see it


How do you know?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:18pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:06pm, MIAMISKYLINE wrote:
How do you know?


I read it Earth human
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:22pm

You read it on Earth Human? Is that a blogg?

Any link?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:24pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:22pm, MIAMISKYLINE wrote:
You read it on Earth Human? Is that a blogg?

Any link?


No i forgot to put ,

I call you Earth human

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4G4mFvM0OY
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:35pm

Have you been contacted by UFOs or Angels? Has your consciousness level been raised by them? Have you had any cosmic consciousness experiences? I answer yes to all of the above questions. Do you?


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:38pm

That is just few days from now, if it doesnt happen, wow I'm going to laugh so hard. rolleyes grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:49pm

To all my friends; please mark your calendars to watch my future appearances on the UK radio online show entitled, "Exploring the Unexplained". www.manchesterradioonline.com on Saturday night October 11, at [9 P.M. - 12 P.M. UK time] or 4 PM to 7 PM EST time. Please note that they have changed the times of this radio online show. Click on the link to access the show. [They claim that 5 million listeners listen to this radio web show and that it is the most listened to independent radio station in the UK!]. My topic for this show will be the Creator and Its Creations! Irwyn Greif [Timetraveler]
www.manchesterradioonline.com


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:49pm

on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:38pm, MIAMISKYLINE wrote:
That is just few days from now, if it doesnt happen, wow I'm going to laugh so hard. rolleyes grin


Laugh now Earth human, soon you will don't laugh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MIAMISKYLINE on Oct 6th, 2008, 1:54pm

LOL, Me get excited now. grin

Me read on wikipedia aboot Blossom Goldchild now. kiss

Well, I just found out that it is going to be visible for three days beginning on OCT 14. Unfortunately for me, it is going to be on top of the southern hemisphere. NOw, I live in North America,

AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 6th, 2008, 2:21pm

I think, i will don't see it, cuz i live in Latvia
cry
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Oct 7th, 2008, 12:14am

on Oct 6th, 2008, 09:52am, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
More lies! Where do you get this wrong information?
Pleiadians created Earth humans not Saurians! Pleiadians look like us


Pretty harsh words your using there saying Timetraveler is telling lies. Is that all you base your findings on that the "Pleiadians look like us", and how do you know that?

There is much in our ancient past that alludes to Timetraveler being right. Through different cultures in fact. From South America to England to Egypt and Asia. Even the Dogon Tribe say that our DNA was mixed with Serpent, Lizard and Fish beings, hundreds of thousands of years ago. http://www.themasterofspeech.com/nommo.html

Can you offer a link to where you found your information that says the Pleiadians created us? I would be interested in reading it.

Luvey

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 7th, 2008, 08:31am

on Oct 7th, 2008, 12:14am, Luvey wrote:
Pretty harsh words your using there saying Timetraveler is telling lies. Is that all you base your findings on that the "Pleiadians look like us", and how do you know that?

There is much in our ancient past that alludes to Timetraveler being right. Through different cultures in fact. From South America to England to Egypt and Asia. Even the Dogon Tribe say that our DNA was mixed with Serpent, Lizard and Fish beings, hundreds of thousands of years ago. http://www.themasterofspeech.com/nommo.html

Can you offer a link to where you found your information that says the Pleiadians created us? I would be interested in reading it.

Luvey


1 I know time travel is possible

2 Link: http://relay4thetruth.blogspot.com/2007/10/semjases-explanations.html
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 7th, 2008, 10:19am

This is an excerpt from my new book," Other Dimensions", available from Amazon and Barnes & Noble. In this experience myself and a woman psychiatrist named Dr. Barbara as well as about eight of her patients witnessed an actual time travel from a different dimensional world into our physical world.

“I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a “high point” in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.”


What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on Oct 7th, 2008, 10:22am

Hi SupaCrunk19994

That was from Billy Meier, I was talking about actual findings/evidence like artefacts, or something like the Dogan Tribe information that has been passed down generation after generation for thousands of years. Another example is the Doorway of Aramu Muru which was named after the first Incan Serpent Priest King Aramu Muru. Or there's the Dragons in different cultures etc. There is much information on the link I proved about these findings. Billy Meier claims to be in touch with the Pleiadians, but that is not an actual finding/evidence from our ancient past. Not that I am knocking Billy Meier, because I am not.

Luvey
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Oct 7th, 2008, 12:14pm

on Oct 7th, 2008, 08:31am, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
1 I know time travel is possible

2 Link: http://relay4thetruth.blogspot.com/2007/10/semjases-explanations.html


1) How do you know time travel is possible?
2) Why do you believe what's posted in videos?
3) You appear to be full of...knowledge, where does it come from? A lil Jon video! If you want to be taken serious you should stop bashing other members and express your own views.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 7th, 2008, 12:51pm

1 Cuz Pleiadians travel in time
2 That ain't video, i have contacted with Semjase
3 Have do know i listen Lil Jon?
4 Other members must know truth
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GForce on Oct 7th, 2008, 2:07pm

on Oct 7th, 2008, 12:51pm, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
1 Cuz Pleiadians travel in time
2 That ain't video, i have contacted with Semjase
3 Have do know i listen Lil Jon?
4 Other members must know truth


3) I'm psychic!!!
4) Most members have their OWN truth. It's doubtful you'll change anyones mind on their beliefs!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 7th, 2008, 2:24pm

3 What is psychic? embarassed explane
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DrDil on Oct 7th, 2008, 2:28pm

on Oct 7th, 2008, 2:24pm, SupaCrunk19994 wrote:
3 What is psychic? embarassed explane

Hi SupaCrunk smiley,

I believe the definition that GForce was alluding to is as follows:

Psychic: “Able, or considered able, to perceive people's unexpressed thoughts or foresee the future.”

Cheers.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 8th, 2008, 08:25am

Thanks
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chatwithfm on Oct 9th, 2008, 12:28pm

I am writing a book about the physics of the universe and i have a chapter for the extra terrestials.In my research i found that UFOs are thin because they do not need body growth,the only have to grow in the brain.This explains why their head are fairly large.And they come from planets that can be inhabited by man,a solar system that has not be found and there is a possiblity that we cannot see it because we humans are not able to overcome the barrier because our technology is very low compared to the terrestial men.And the only way to over come this barrier is nullity.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Oct 9th, 2008, 2:07pm

When book will be ready?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Mikhal on Oct 10th, 2008, 05:21am

on Oct 9th, 2008, 12:28pm, chatwithfm wrote:
In my research i found that UFOs are thin because they do not need body growth,the only have to grow in the brain.This explains why their head are fairly large.


UFOs have fairly large heads...? grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Kvazzy on Oct 10th, 2008, 09:57am

he probably means aliens
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 10th, 2008, 2:35pm

As a lifelong psychic I would like to expand on the given definition of psychic. As a psychic I have witnessed Angels in their true energy form, with my psychic third eye. I have seen colors that were vivid and alive, with my psychic third eye. I have been contacted many times by UFOs both physically and mentally although as far as I know I have never been abducted by UFOs. I live in two worlds, the physical and the psychic. I have had my consciousness raised either by angelic UFOs or Angels, I cannot tell which. My life has been saved countless times by Guardian Angels. Sometimes, the psychic world seems more real to me than the physical world which I live in. Thank you for reading this.



What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 10th, 2008, 2:43pm

I would like to reply to several posters who are expounding on UFOs and ETs. In all of my contacts with ETs and UFOs I have noticed that all of the personnel onboard the UFOs look identical. Also the "grays" look identical. Either they are all made on a factory assembly line or the obvious and logical conclusion would be that we see either "projections" or that the crew members are "artificial intelligence" creations. Think about this!


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chatwithfm on Oct 11th, 2008, 11:19am

I believe the aliens have as many races as humans.The thing is humans think that they are the best creation,but they are far too wrong.We stare at the moon everynight and we fail to see that the aliens are carrying out mining jobs on the far side of the moon everyday.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Oct 11th, 2008, 11:37pm

how do you know that?
what does moon have that the aliens might need?
Also, do you think our visit to the moon- fake? i think it is.
let me know please.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chatwithfm on Oct 14th, 2008, 10:02am

There are so many things on the moon that man cant still explain. Do u know that the dust found on the moon cannot make seeds germinate but when this dust is mixed with soil from earth,the plant grows higher than the rate it grows with a fertilizer.
Heavy craters are found on the far side of the moon because the aliens are drilling them.Seismic instruments left on the moon to check moonquakes,records heavy seismic activities going on underground.These aliens mine upside down;the live below as they mine above, a kind of technology unknown to man!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by KillerBee on Oct 14th, 2008, 10:12am

Well, theres a few races that we can not perceive. Hell the most advanced race here comes in the form of energy because thats the only way others can perceive them. The greys are the 2nd most advanced here and still are unable to comprehend their true form.

There was a race I met, I don't know the name, but they were really weird looking, they had these 4 massive eyes (the size of my hand) and in the center a circular mouth with rows of blunt teeth. It had no limbs aside from these 2 skinny tentacle like things coming from the side, and they hovered off the ground. Apparently they can see in 4 dimensions, and see time. They're beyond advanced their technology looks like magic to us.

Then I saw another being, it was black and had no eyes, no mouth and no ears. It stood like a human, but had 4 arms on each side, and no legs. The head was oval shaped, and elongated. On the center of its chest it had a giant black eye thing. Apparently they're hostile to us. and come from another universe.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Oct 14th, 2008, 12:38pm

I am intrigued about the moon info. That's really cool.
What about the human visit to the moon? To you think it actually took place?
to KillerBee:
That sounds amazing, both of the creatures. I'd like to be able to see in 4 dimensions and see the time. And the hostile ones, i wonder why they are hostile.
It would be wonderful to hear the stories how you met them, if you don't mind sharing.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by KillerBee on Oct 14th, 2008, 1:24pm

They're hostile because want Earth for themselves to use our resources. The 2nd tyype (the shadowy being) want to use humans as a sorta slave labor. They want to take us back to their universe, (we would die crossing into it though).

We have landed on the moon. Theres nothing there.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chatwithfm on Oct 15th, 2008, 06:28am

killer bee,there is a lot of mystery still left to be unraveled on the moon.There may appear to be nothing above but i believe that below,there exist a lot of resources just like on earth.That seems to be the reason why aliens are mining on the moon.
Humans are scared to mine on the moon because they do not know the kind of alien mining as well.If they aren't scared,they should ave found something below the surface of the moon since 1970s when they first detected alien activities there.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by KillerBee on Oct 18th, 2008, 11:09am

Aliens aren't mining there. Earth is much, much bigger has resources they need. We'renot unique, its just Earth is a fairly safe world and requires no terraforming.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jennifer1971 on Nov 12th, 2008, 11:50am

Perfect thread! What do aliens look like? Well, we have PROOF that they look all kinds of ways. Argument settled! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jennifer1971 on Nov 12th, 2008, 11:51am

Perfect thread! What do aliens look like? Well, we have PROOF that they look all kinds of ways. Argument settled! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Ashiana24 on Nov 12th, 2008, 3:20pm

on Oct 9th, 2008, 12:28pm, chatwithfm wrote:
I am writing a book about the physics of the universe and i have a chapter for the extra terrestials.In my research i found that UFOs are thin because they do not need body growth,the only have to grow in the brain.This explains why their head are fairly large.And they come from planets that can be inhabited by man,a solar system that has not be found and there is a possiblity that we cannot see it because we humans are not able to overcome the barrier because our technology is very low compared to the terrestial men.And the only way to over come this barrier is nullity.


Hi chatwithfm,

I'd be interested in hearing more about your book. Well, if you believe that space travel is possible, I've also heard one other theory --that is, that aliens are very thin because of space travel and that the longer one travels in space the more muscle mass is lost.

Just one more theory. wink

~ Ashiana
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by GSC on Nov 13th, 2008, 10:11am

They look like we, they don't look like monsters etc.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jennifer1971 on Nov 13th, 2008, 1:58pm

Well, let's see...if you believed the vast numbers of people who claim to have had a visitation or ET experience, then you must be able to recognize that there are innumerable species of alien.It makes alot of sense. OR, there's one species here, trying to make it seem like there's several. They ARE several millenium ahead of us. Who KNOWS how CLEVER these people can be....
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by kingfisher on Nov 29th, 2008, 10:11pm

They all look just like Angelina Jolie --- but sometimes I live in a fantasy world.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jimmycarbone on Dec 4th, 2008, 9:27pm

on Oct 14th, 2008, 10:12am, KillerBee wrote:
Well, theres a few races that we can not perceive. Hell the most advanced race here comes in the form of energy because thats the only way others can perceive them. The greys are the 2nd most advanced here and still are unable to comprehend their true form.

There was a race I met, I don't know the name, but they were really weird looking, they had these 4 massive eyes (the size of my hand) and in the center a circular mouth with rows of blunt teeth. It had no limbs aside from these 2 skinny tentacle like things coming from the side, and they hovered off the ground. Apparently they can see in 4 dimensions, and see time. They're beyond advanced their technology looks like magic to us.

Then I saw another being, it was black and had no eyes, no mouth and no ears. It stood like a human, but had 4 arms on each side, and no legs. The head was oval shaped, and elongated. On the center of its chest it had a giant black eye thing. Apparently they're hostile to us. and come from another universe.


Please elaborate on where and when you met these aliens, what were the circumstances that surounded the meeting and why you>

Please explain I'm very much intrigued.

Thanks - Jimmy
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 6th, 2008, 10:26am

To all my friends; please mark your calendars to watch my future appearances on the UK radio online show entitled, "Exploring the Unexplained". www.manchesterradioonline.com on Saturday, January3, 2009 [9 P.M. - 12 P.M. UK time] or 3 PM to 6 PM EST/DST time. Please note the change in the times of this radio online show. Click on the link to access the show. [They claim that 5 million listeners listen to this radio web show and that it is the most listened to independent radio station in the UK!]. My topic for this show will be the “Creator and its Creations”? Irwyn Greif [Timetraveler]
www.manchesterradioonline.com

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ciknay547 on Jan 12th, 2009, 08:16am

on Oct 11th, 2008, 11:37pm, milesaway wrote:
how do you know that?
what does moon have that the aliens might need?
Also, do you think our visit to the moon- fake? i think it is.
let me know please.

i think it is fake, as there were no stars in space in the pic, and the flag in waving in the air, whereas there is supposedly no wind on the moon.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Jan 12th, 2009, 09:04am

I agree... I also think, if you're so brave and technologically advanced to go there once, why haven't you gone since? Total bull, trying to intimidate russians in space exploration, probably.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by beeleaver66 on Jan 12th, 2009, 12:10pm

How do you explain the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment
still sending back signals today. Someone had to put that Mirror there? The Russians landed two but they had little success. Thats cause they were unmanned. Ours were installed by the Apollo 11 crew in 1969. Made in the USA baby!!
A. Beeleaver
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Jan 12th, 2009, 12:33pm

oh, please. made in usa, made in russia- all same; both hiding the truth about et life. what do you think about not going there again since that time? would love to hear your input. thx.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by beeleaver66 on Jan 13th, 2009, 07:32am

We were told not to return, there is ET activity there underground supposedly.
A. Beeleaver
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by plejarenspirit on Jan 14th, 2009, 08:42am

i have had experiences with a humanoid woman
black hair average height
however... im pretty sure that was just the appearance the entity was taking on so id be able to handle it
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ciknay547 on Jan 18th, 2009, 10:18pm

on Jan 14th, 2009, 08:42am, plejarenspirit wrote:
i have had experiences with a humanoid woman
black hair average height
however... im pretty sure that was just the appearance the entity was taking on so id be able to handle it


really?? wat was the experience like?? or could they have just been some female stalker getting dressed up...
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by MrX on Jan 19th, 2009, 10:33am

There is probably more than one race of alien.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 19th, 2009, 1:05pm

This is a reply to the most interesting postings of goblin 79 and RSF. There are many newspaper stories of traffic signs such as stop signs vibrating violently without cause or reason. I believe that ET’s use underground laboratories to incubate the new hybrid human race and the mechanisms involved create these vibrations. If you research the books of Charles Fort you will find the description of artificially created tunnels which are as smooth as glass. This is hundreds of years ago. These artificially created tunnels are in the area where entire tribes of Mayans suddenly disappeared. Perhaps there is a connection?

Also, the eyewitness accounts of anthropoid- like beings operating UFOs can perhaps be explained by the ability that the ETs have to not only control their environment but to also project images and holograms. These projections are usually connected to the expectations of the viewers. An example of this is that when I was younger Angels would appear to me in human form but as I raised my consciousness level they appear to me now as intense high energy “sparks” of light which I cannot see with my physical eyes but only with my psychic “third eye”. We cannot comprehend the higher worlds of Angels and ET's with our limited human brains. We can only try to simplify our understanding of them as best as we can.

Do not be overly impressed with our scientist’s advancement in technology. They are being taught by ETs because in the last days of this civilization which we are presently undergoing this civilization has to be raised to its highest technological level. However, we can only be raised in our physical universe and we will not be allowed to learn how to travel inter-dimensionally.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Jan 19th, 2009, 1:32pm

Irwyn,

what do you think of taos hum?
thanks in advance about your reply.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 21st, 2009, 2:09pm

I am not familiar with the taos hum? What do you mean? Please inform me. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonegatherer on Jan 26th, 2009, 8:36pm

Taos? Taos, New Mexico? It's beautiful up there. Or maybe that's not what you're talking about.

Traveler: sparks, huh? I've seen those for a long time now. And it isn't with the regular eye. Hard to explain. But they're tiny. Tiny little balls of light. Most are like little golden balls and some are dark with a little golden kinda outline. either that or I have a brain tumor. smiley

Your idea of how "aliens" might appear and we can't really perceive them properly. Reminds of this old book Flatland. In it the leading character is a square that lives in the 2nd dimension.

He is visited one day by a sphere from the 3rd dimension, but he can only see him as a circle, a flat circle because of the dimension he occupies. It will only allow him to see it in a certain way. The whole time the sphere is trying to explain this concept to him/them, the concept of a 3rd dimension, but they just can't get it.

If I remember correctly, though, at some point the square has dream where he does actually visit the 3rd dimension.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonegatherer on Jan 26th, 2009, 8:39pm

Oh, I'm sorry. I mean "sparks" of light
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonegatherer on Jan 26th, 2009, 8:53pm

Irwyn, one more thing. I hope when you're saying last days of this civilization, it's not some end of the world idea. Cuz you know we've been saying it's the end of the world since the beginning of the world pretty much.

But civilization..that is different because we've all seen how some of the most powerful civilizations in the world have , in the end, been swallowed up. Swallowed in the sands, the waters, the jungles.

I hope not the end of this civilization either, though. Because I confess, although we need to do some serious tweaking to it, I kinda like this civilization.

I'm still holding out the hope that we can make this crazy thing work yet! smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Easternbluestar on Jan 26th, 2009, 9:12pm

There are predictions (from people that have had long Near Death Experiences) who have seen visions that our earth will be subjected to solar flares from the sun, especially strong in the year 2010, and that these may cause polarity shifts of the poles, which essentially would cause most electrical appartuses to either burn out or cease functioning.

Just the other day, I came across a news story where NASA has warned us about potential sun spot flare ups that "could" affect the earth. I find it strange that NASA is bringing this subject up now. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html

Do you think this is just a coincidence?

EBS

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by milesaway on Jan 26th, 2009, 9:22pm

Irwyn,

Sorry didn't have the time to respond in a timely matter:

Taos Hum-

"The Hum is a generic name for a series of phenomena involving a persistent and invasive low-frequency humming noise not audible to all people. Hums have been reported in various geographical locations. In some cases a source has been located. A well-known case was reported in Taos, New Mexico, and thus the Hum is sometimes called the Taos Hum. Hums have been reported all over the world, especially in Europe. A Hum on the Big Island of Hawaii, typically related to volcanic action, is heard in locations dozens of miles apart. The local Hawaiians also say the Hum is most often heard by men. The Hum is most often described as sounding somewhat like a distant idling diesel engine. Typically the Hum is difficult to detect with microphones, and its source and nature are hard to localize.
The Hum is sometimes prefixed with the name of a locality where the problem has been particularly publicized: e.g., the "Bristol Hum" or the "Taos Hum".

So what is your take on it- let me know.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonegatherer on Jan 26th, 2009, 10:00pm

Oh, God. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to stock up on those canned goods after all. A scout is always prepared. Did you read the bit about the mysterious roar from faraway space? What do you think that's about?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 30th, 2009, 2:01pm

I do not know what this humming sound is all about. It is possibly activity from other worlds that are invisible to us?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 30th, 2009, 4:01pm

I just received this very interesting answer. We live in a three-dimensional world and the fourth dimensional world is almost touching our world now. It is at the closest to us that it has ever been. That is why there are so many reports of fourth dimensional ET's crossing over into our world. There is an enormous amount of activity in the fourth and fifth dimensions to prepare for the catastrophic changes in our world during the next three years. We are in the last days of this civilization and the fourth exodus by UFOs is imminent. By 2010 the new hybrid human race will be completed and there will be no more need to abduct anymore human specimens for their sperm and eggs. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by eedisonikk on Mar 2nd, 2009, 5:49pm

What do aliens look like?, look in the mirror.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ciknay547 on Mar 2nd, 2009, 11:39pm

OMG!!!!!!!!! IT'S UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!11. THAT THE LAST TIME I LOOK IN THE MIRROR. oh right, its the tv showing micheal jackson. he is an alien. lol.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DeadlyRook on Mar 4th, 2009, 09:29am

on Sep 29th, 2002, 11:23am, The Traveler wrote:
The things I have seen indicate to me that if an alien race contacted us, they would be superior to us in intellect and technology. They are depicted as being thin because they don't do much physical work, and they
have long fingers because of pushing buttons on computers. Why they are so pale or whitish looking, I guess is they must live in a world that doesn't have the sun like we do. But this would be just one kind of alien, and abduction stories mention several kinds.


It is quite possible that they are pale because they spend so much time out of the sun on their homeworld(s). There could be a serious UV problem on their planet so they cannot go outside. Or they are nocturnal, or even that their technology has made them into extra terrestrial pale skinned computer geeks.

DeadlyRook
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by TheUKUFOcollective on Mar 5th, 2009, 1:59pm

What annoys me about some people is they assume Aliens have the same structure to us Humans, like two eyes, a nose and a mouth etc. Take into consideration that these Aliens are from another planet, they have not been subject to the same enviroment as on Earth, the gravity might be different, atmosphere, the planet surface, tempuature etc so how would they have the same features!!! Granted some Aliens races might indeed share similar characteristics but the probability of this would be very low indeed! The gray Aliens interest me most, there whole body structure is 'spot on' for space. Big black eyes because there isn't much light in space, like how our pupils get larger as we are subject to dark enviroments. There frame is thin and small, due to less gravity and exercise as a result (muscles waste away as they are not used). Their large heads in comparison to their bodies, increased brain size is an evolutionary stage when the body becomes just a shell for the brain and 'soul', they don't use their bodys much for anything so the brain has evolved to compensate for this. Possible mind 'powers' may have been intorduced, like shared thoughts between one another. Th grays have been thought to be the evil Aliens, some say they are clones and od the dirty work for there creators. Who are they!? Who knows, but there has been many many cases reported where grays have been seen...
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Mar 5th, 2009, 2:40pm

This is a reply to UK posting. As I have written in my book entitled," Other Dimensions" and I have stated as a guest on ManchesterUKradioonline programs the Greys who constitute the crews of UFOs are artificial intelligence constructs and should not be compared to humans or other life forms as we know them. I have had several contacts with UFO beings and ET's so I speak from actual experience. In order to understand the UFO other dimensional worlds we cannot think with our limited human brains based upon our physical world science and knowledge. We must raise our consciousness and intelligence level to think like UFOs.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by eedisonikk on Apr 23rd, 2009, 7:08pm

The Greys are not Good. They are Bad. They are Cybernetic Organisms that recieve orders and carry out those orders. The Orders are not Good Orders. And the U.S. Shadow Government works with these enemies of Humanity. To this very day being April 22, 2009.

I don't trust any of them.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 24th, 2009, 10:07am

I am not a seeker of the truth because I realize that truth is variable and based upon the individuals level of consciousness and understanding. I am a seeker of understanding based upon my own limitations of comprehension. My belief system is based upon personal experiences with Angels and UFOs and ETs and a very rare cosmic consciousness experience when I was one with creation and the Creator Spirit for a few microseconds during which time I "understood" everything. Of course my understanding was limited to my own level of comprehension. I've learned that a higher intelligence is at work in all things and I do not trust the limited animal brain of the human being, but I do trust the Angels. Therefore, I do not judge what is good and what is bad but I accept that there is no action or event that is not designed for the greater good of the souls of the human race. Let us try to raise our level of consciousness to understand this.



What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Archangel on Apr 24th, 2009, 11:49pm

Compelling words, timetraveler, it is good to see your posts smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ciknay547 on Apr 26th, 2009, 01:00am

nice sayings there irwyn. i think ill go with ur sayings on this matter. doesnt mean its true. tongue
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Apr 27th, 2009, 1:53pm

Thank you all for your diverse and interesting responses to my posting.
Can you comprehend that the black "eyes" of the Grays are not eyes at all but are actually high tech lenses and sensors and receptors and directly behind them and connected to them are operating systems and communication links to the other dimensional ET's who use them as explorers and technicians and information gathering constructs? Can you expand your mind and consciousness to conceive of this?


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Archangel on Apr 27th, 2009, 10:52pm

Yes timetraveler, I can appreciate that notion... this actually ties into some reports about the greys, or rather, it helps explain some reports of their behavior.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by roybass on May 9th, 2009, 06:18am

When we make official contact it will be with the Elohim. They look like us since they created us in their image after their likeness. Behold the man has become as one of us. (Genesis)
But since the universe is infinite, there is an infinite possibilities of what ETs could look like.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 9th, 2009, 09:39am

Do not limit yourself or your mind or your expectations to believe what you see or perceive with your five senses or with our limited animal brain. What you have seen are projections and holograms and artificial intelligence constructs. In other dimensional worlds they are not physical forms but capable of "shape shifting" and creating a form or body according to their needs. For instance, nobody has ever seen the actual form of an Angel because they are on a much higher energy and electrical frequency than our physical world and therefore they cannot enter into a physical world without electrocuting the entire world. The only way that you can see an Angel in its true state of being is through the psychic "third eye". [Refer to the biblical statement that 10,000 Angels can fit on the head of a pin]. The Adam race was designed by a fourth dimensional race called Saurians also known as "Lizzard People". When the Bible and the ancient holy books state that we are created in God's image they are referring only to our souls and not to our bodies.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on May 9th, 2009, 10:49am

Quote:
Thank you all for your diverse and interesting responses to my posting.
Can you comprehend that the black "eyes" of the Grays are not eyes at all but are actually high tech lenses and sensors and receptors and directly behind them and connected to them are operating systems and communication links to the other dimensional ET's who use them as explorers and technicians and information gathering constructs? Can you expand your mind and consciousness to conceive of this?


I certainly can conceive of it, and it could well be so. There is no way to know for certain, of course wink



Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by roybass on May 13th, 2009, 12:28am

[Refer to the biblical statement that 10,000 Angels can fit on the head of a pin]
Can you quote the chapter and verse of that statement Timetraveler ??

another interpretation is that the angels of the bible are simply ETs who were in contact with us.

I mean in the book of Enoch that pre dates the bible, the angels seem quite human like and had interaction with humans on a regular basis. They possibly even had sexual relations as in the case of Noah. So this would imply that the angels were compatible with humans.

No limitiations here just what the ancient scriptures offer us.
As for lizzard people. I dont adhere to any of David Ike interpretations.
roybasssmiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Aurelien on May 13th, 2009, 07:21am

on May 13th, 2009, 12:28am, roybass wrote:
I mean in the book of Enoch that pre dates the bible, the angels seem quite human like and had interaction with humans on a regular basis. They possibly even had sexual relations as in the case of Noah. So this would imply that the angels were compatible with humans.


Totally agree. Mankind made child with "angel" as said in the Bible. From that point they created cult and religion, because the child was an hybrid with "god" and human. So he became a hero, Champion, Priest, ... Exactly like for the cargo cult in Micronesia, perfectly the same mecanism.
The king were called the blue blood, maybe a kind of pollution from space. Those people became what they are because an ancestor as been fucked by ET. Very easy way to manipulate them and the society too if the ET are not cool.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 15th, 2009, 10:41am

We are receiving such beautiful postings from so many beautiful people. I'm trying to simplify and help others not to get confused by words or scientific mumbo-jumbo or even by the confusing happenings in our world today. We are very fortunate to be present at this time in the end times of the Adam civilization. Let me make some statements to simplify our understanding.
Technology is being raised to its highest level by Angels and UFOs. Scientific research such as quantum mechanics is given to us to help us to leapfrog over our traditional scientific and logical methodology. Colossal changes will be implemented within the next two years to discredit all religions thereby freeing the human race from its prison of concepts, guilt and insecurity.
The Saurian's were sanctioned to design and build physical human bodies because they are a fourth dimensional race and are therefore compatible with our own physical third dimensional world. Angels could not construct physical human bodies and cannot enter into our physical world because they are fifth dimensional entities whose high-frequency energy vibrations would electrocute our three-dimensional world. We cannot see Angels with our five senses. We can only see them in dreams, visions, cosmic consciousness experiences and with our psychic third eye.
Our Souls were created by the Creator Spirit and our physical bodies are only temporary vehicles to help us to experience physicality and emotions such as pain and pleasure. We are only one half human being either male or female. The complete human being is androgen. That is why from the instant we are born we search for our missing half a.k.a. soulmate. At a later time in the spirit world we will be reunited.
Try to understand that everything including us is the DNA of the Creator Spirit.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 15th, 2009, 10:48am

Yesterday which was May 14, 2009 I received an answer which was a remarkable revelation and I wish to share it with you now. For over 50 years I've questioned whether some UFOs are really Angels? Now the answers was given to me that since Angels cannot appear or be perceived in their natural energy state without electrocuting us they project and construct physical appearing projections and constructs which appear to our physical senses to be solid physical spacecraft a.k.a. UFOs and ET's who are the crew. This would explain to me how every time I was contacted by an apparent UFO it later revealed itself to be actually an Angel. This does not pertain to all UFOs but rather only to angelic UFOs.

This has helped me to understand and to clarify my contacts and experiences with angelic UFOs.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 15th, 2009, 3:19pm

I do not know the actual source for, "10,000 angels can fit on the head of a pin"and the only reference I can locate is posted below:

Forty-Three - Without Substance
Tuesday, April 17th, 2007
Forty-three is one of those chapters that encapsulates the Tao Te Ching nicely. It’s one that comes to mind when thinking about Taoism in general. In this very concise chapter, we have the idea of wei wu wei, along with the concepts of yin and yang, and also the idea of teaching without words. While I was reading and meditating on this chapter, I focused on the idea of no-substance presented in the quote above. One might think of spirit or soul in the classical sense as something which has no substance in this way. At least we might see it as being nonphysical allowing it to be where there is “no room.” This ridiculous idea is very unappealing to me.

Instead, what came to mind when I was thinking about what this sentence might mean was the idea of a “string” in String Theory from modern physics. Oversimplifying horribly, string theory holds that all events in the physical world are ultimately caused by the various “vibrations” of extremely small multidimensional “strings.” One of the problems that opponents of this theory point to is the fact that if string theory is in fact true, because strings are actually smaller than the Planck length, we cannot observe them in any meaningful sense. The Planck length, or the smallest meaningful unit of length, is equal to 1.6 x 10-35 m or about 10-20 times the size of a proton. Our current understanding of the physical world cannot make claims about anything smaller than this unit of length. Therefore, opponents of string theory assert, the hypotheses of string theory are not falsifiable and as a result cannot be called scientific in any rigorous sense of that word. One could not prove string theory is wrong because the hypotheses associated with it cannot be tested. Therefore String Theory is more like an ideology than a scientific theory.

What in the hell does this have to do with chapter Forty-Three of the Tao Te Ching? Well, not much, except that when I think of things without “substance” in the usual sense, I don’t think about souls, I think about strings. If a string is smaller than the Planck distance then you could fit as many as you like “where there is no room.” Kind of like the old jab at the Scholastic philosophy of the Middle Ages, “How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

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What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 15th, 2009, 3:41pm

I can only testify to my own personal experiences when I have seen Angels appearing as brilliant microscopic "sparks" of intense energy on a white sheet of paper that was on my desk at work.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DrDil on May 16th, 2009, 11:14am

on May 13th, 2009, 12:28am, roybass wrote:
[Refer to the biblical statement that 10,000 Angels can fit on the head of a pin]
Can you quote the chapter and verse of that statement Timetraveler ??

I’m not sure about ’10,000’ but the whole angel/pin concept was conceived by Thomas Aquinas who was the thinking mans priest back in the thirteenth century, a priest ruthlessly promoted by the Catholic church to counter (one of) the forefathers of Western philosophy, Aristotle. As when the philosophies of Aristotle were becoming increasingly attractive to the Christians of the day the church recognised that the religious dogma of old wouldn’t wash in the current climate, panicked and Aquinas was appointed as chief thinker. But back to the angels, the question was originally a ‘needle point’ not a pinhead and was a philosophical rhetoric really designed to elaborate on the physicality (if any) of the spiritual universe and was never intended to have a numerical answer but rather, “infinite” or “finite”.

If an infinite number then the angels had no material substance and are purely spiritual in construction, a non-material entity. But if it was a finite number then regardless of the number it meant that the spiritual universe was not much different from the physical universe and obeyed similar rules.

Well, that was the rationale behind it but in my opinion it was no more than a worried Catholic Church fighting a losing battle with logic and bringing out the ‘big guns’ of the day, i.e. Thomas Aquinas.

Cheers.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 18th, 2009, 09:23am

Thank you Dr. Dil for your expansive and enlightening posting. There is absolutely no way to compare the physical worlds with spirit or nonphysical worlds. The physics are different and it requires a different mindset. In our physical world we have deified mathematical numbers and used them as a guide for measurement and logic of understanding. However mathematics does not work in nonphysical worlds and should be treated as a convenience of our own physical world. This translates to mean that our physical brains and logic and reasoning abilities are useless when applied to the understanding of the nonphysical universe.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by roybass on May 19th, 2009, 01:36am

Seems the original question of what do ETs look like has gotten a bit off the track.

In an infinite universe we have infinite possibilities.
Angels are beings, capable of having relations with humans and producing offspring, this is documented in the earliest of scriptures. After that its all human interpretations and conjugations.

roybass smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on May 19th, 2009, 4:00pm

Quote:
Seems the original question of what do ETs look like has gotten a bit off the track.

In an infinite universe we have infinite possibilities.
Angels are beings, capable of having relations with humans and producing offspring, this is documented in the earliest of scriptures. After that its all human interpretations and conjugations.


Roy,

Do you think so?? See I've always considered angels to be non-physical entities and the so-called "angels" spoken of in the Bible to be E.T.'s of advanced technological capabilities who landed here at a time when humans were barely out of caves and so deemed them "gods"....! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on May 20th, 2009, 1:18pm

I agree with Seeker. Angels have contacted with me as holograms and projections and physical appearing ET's. In their truest state they are high voltage energy beings and are definitely non-physical. I've seen them in their true state only in dreams, visions, cosmic consciousness experiences and all of these bypassed the conscious mind and our physical five senses. When I've seen them come into our physical world in their true energy state it was only by using my psychic "third eye". I've also been attacked by ET's who took physical shapes but they were not Angels but rather "shape shifters" and they were from the fourth dimension. The American Indians know about "shape shifters". Let us try to expand our consciousness and awareness and explore our intuitive senses.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by roybass on May 20th, 2009, 8:57pm

Your quite right seeker.

In the book of Enoch which pre-dates the gook of genesis. The interactions with the "angels" is well described. They are human like beings and spent time with humans, educating them and even having relations.

In Genisis it stated the sons of Elohim (those who come from the sky in ancient Hebrew) saw the daughters of men were fair and made wives of them. They bore children who became great men of renown.

Timetraveler, I respect your difference but dont agree with your interpretation of what Angels are.
My interpretations of what you describe is telepathic communication with ET intelligences.
They are a carbon based organisms like ourselves.
As it is written. Elohim created man in their image after their likeness. Behold man has become as one of us. Genesis.



smiley

roybass smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 2nd, 2009, 1:05pm

Roybass: it is not my intention to create a religious discussion. I do not believe that any religion is anything but man-made. Who dictated the material found in the Bibles and the holy books? How accurate are the translations and interpretations?
In 1955 I worked with a very powerful psychic artist named Paulina Peavey for almost 2 years and her oil paintings made masters like Rembrandt and da Vinci look like amateurs. She was taken over and possessed by very powerful ETs who controlled her paintings. Some of the beings in her oil paintings had cleft feet and horns on their heads and the hairy bodies of animals. Some of them were representing having sex with human females, similar to the mythological God Pan. I stopped working with her because I was afraid of the ET's depicted in her paintings. She died some time ago and some of her paintings were sold on eBay. Why don't you do some research and try to locate some of her paintings? I think you would find her "out of this world" oil paintings interesting!


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on Jun 2nd, 2009, 8:54pm

[quote]on May 20th, 2009, 8:57pm, roybass wrote:
Your quite right seeker.

In the book of Enoch which pre-dates the gook of genesis. The interactions with the "angels" is well described. They are human like beings and spent time with humans, educating them and even having relations.

In Genisis it stated the sons of Elohim (those who come from the sky in ancient Hebrew) saw the daughters of men were fair and made wives of them. They bore children who became great men of renown.

Timetraveler, I respect your difference but dont agree with your interpretation of what Angels are.
My interpretations of what you describe is telepathic communication with ET intelligences.
They are a carbon based organisms like ourselves.
As it is written. Elohim created man in their image after their likeness. Behold man has become as one of us. Genesis.
smiley


Hi Roy,

Allow me please to clarify my thoughts on angels. I believe TRUE angels... those of the angellic kingdom... to be a quite distinct and separate life form from that of human and other carbon-based beings. I believe they are, as TimeTraveler states, not strictly physical in the sense that they do not possess or inhabit these clay vessels we do. I think it would be most accurate to state that they are pure energy or consciousness.

The "angels" discussed in the Bible are a whole other subject and it is THEY whom I believe to have been in actuality an advanced race of E.T.'s who DID in fact interact in physical form with human beings, even producing off-spring in some cases, and whom the general populace of the time... uneducated rustics, for the most part, who did not have a sophisticated understanding of the cosmos nor an a belief or awareness that there were other species more advanced than they living on other planetary realms and traveling the vast distances required to visit our own.... had nothing to relate to in terms of defining these beings. Because of the disparity in technological capabilities and their being the product of civilizations thousands of years older and more advanced than our own, their technological powers were thought to be supernatural, and they were thus dubbed "gods" and "angels". In reality, they were merely extraterrestrials.

I do believe true angels DO exist, though I have never seen or personally interacted with one. I have, however, felt their presence and been the recipient of their guidance, protection, and uplift. I suppose this is something that cannot be proven, thus none of us can offer a definitive answer on the subject... we can only speculate.

E.T.'s, on the other hand, I DO have personal experience with, my contacts have been with a race that is not wholey physical either (they are, in their own dimensional realm/frequency, but would be invisible to us from ours... in order to see and interact on a physical basis with them, we must be "quickened", i.e., our vibratory rate increased to correspond with theirs, lifting us into what we often refer to as the astral state. Communication with these loving beings who wish to asist humankind with their spiritual evolution are mostly conducted telepathically.

So there are some similarities between SOME alien races (not all, by any means) and the characteristics we attribute to those of the angellic kingdom, and that fact tends to muddy the waters and make the whole thing a bit of a connundrum....!

Carol
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:11pm

I have had many experiences with Angels and ETs.
They are recorded in my book, "Other Dimensions". I will share some of these excerpts with you.

"Chapter Fourteen
Angels

I believe in Angels and they form the foundation and reality structure of my belief system. They have saved my life countless times and they have intervened in my life in ways that I cannot comprehend or realize. Angels are the most “powerful” beings I have ever experienced and I have learned that they not only help you and protect you, but they also are in charge of your "life plan". If they feel that you have learned your life's curriculum they have the power to exit you from this life. On the more positive and beautiful side, they have the power to create “miracles” to heal you from incurable diseases and in some cases to “raise” you up from the dead, [usually within three days of your death].
This has been demonstrated so many times when patients have been pronounced “dead” on the operating table and then brought back to life, or when people have fallen into a freezing lake and pronounced “dead” and then miraculously revived. I believe in Angels and the miracles that they are capable of performing.
I have had many visitations and visions of Angels. Sometimes Angels have come to me not in any humanoid form but as beautiful blue color lights of pure “living energy”. This “blue light” would register on my “psychic eye” vision and remain for a few seconds and then dissipate.
When you receive information or communication from Angels or ETs it is not coming in through your normal ears or your normal eyes or any of your normal five senses. The communication is coming in through your "psychic hearing" and you are seeing what is projected through your psychic "third eye". This is an “expanded” range of your normal five senses.
When I have been in this psychic “extended” range I have seen the most beautiful colors and heard the most beautiful sounds which were “beyond” the normal spectrum of sight and hearing. The colors that I saw were so pure and vibrant that even today the colors of this physical world seem like black-and-white by comparison. Our normal physical senses are too low-frequency to receive these higher frequency transmissions.
This has happened to me when I saw the high-voltage or “energy form” of an Angel. I did not see them with my normal eyes but rather with my psychic "third eye". This could be compared with “high definition” television, which must be received by a special receiver.
One time when I was writing on a sheet of white paper in my office I saw a microscopic “spark” of brilliant white light that was so bright that the white sheet of paper appeared to be black.
I "knew" that this microscopic “spark” of white light was an Angel, and I had the psychic realization at that time, that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel “sparks” of white light and yet each one of them would maintain their own separate identity.
The sighting of an Angel is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations. I have been taught that the same Angel who comes to a religious Catholic as the “Virgin Mary” will come to the religious Jew as “Moses”, etc.
I believe that Angels cannot be seen in their “true” state of being because of their high voltage and high frequency; therefore, they take “shapes” and “forms” convenient to the “eyes of the beholder”. Angels, in their “true” state do not have wings or resemble in any way the commonly accepted depictions.
Persons who have reported seeing Angels, including biblical accounts, did not see the “actual” Angels. What they saw were “representations” of their own mental and religious expectations and beliefs.
Do you recall the famous story of the school children who were locked in a classroom in the school building by a “crazy” bomber and his girlfriend? Before the bomb was exploded the children saw Angels who looked like the “mother image”, or the “female teacher image” and these Angels told the children to lie down at the back of the room and they “shielded” the children from harm and death. This was the “representation” form that the Angels chose to take based on the “expectations” of the children.
When I was twenty-three years old, I lived at a YM-YWHA in Manhattan and I lived alone in my room. This was the first time that I had lived alone in a room without my family. This became my opportunity to develop my psychic abilities in a secluded environment.
Every night, for a period of about six months, when I would go to sleep, I would have a dream in which I was in a “classroom”. Every night I was in a different “classroom”. One night I was in the “classroom” of an old public school that had old desks with ink wells. Another night I was in a junior high school that had the tables and chairs put together. On another night I was in a “chemistry lab” in a college.
I was aware that the other “students” in the “classrooms” with me were “not from this world”. They were from another world. They all had “perfect” features. There wasn't a pimple or a blemish on their faces. There wasn't a hair out of place. Every one of them was calm, stabilized, at peace. They all emanated light from themselves. They were “perfect” beings, compared to me.
There are special types of Angels who are our “Guardian Angels”. We all have “Guardian Angels” assigned to us. These are Angels who are assigned to us to teach us and protect us in the course of many lifetimes.
They have the authority to make “decisions” for us regarding our birth and death. They choose when we will be born and where and our sex and our family, as well as our relationship in the family. The decisions that they make are always in the best interests of our learning and development.
For instance, we might hear a story of a famous musician who has just achieved “fame” and “recognition” and who dies in a plane crash. We feel sorry for this person because their career has been cut short. But in this case his “Guardian Angel” evaluated his soul and determined that his brief success was enough to finish that particular learning. If that person was “determined” to be capable of learning other types of teachings his “Guardian Angel” would not have “removed” him from life.
During this period of time when I was being taught by Angels, I saw this visualization;
I saw a hillock with a valley below it “unfold” in the distance. In the valley were many tents, like the tents of an ancient “biblical” army, and from the top of each of these tents floated a brightly colored pennant. The valley was a great distance away from the hill, and a “river” flowed between the hillock and the tents.
I looked at this hillock, and I was awestruck. I saw the most magnificent black horse that I have ever seen. It was a high spirited horse that seemed to be made of “living energy”. The horse was pawing at the ground, as if ready to go into battle.
As I watched I noticed a “figure” seated on the horse wearing pure silver armor that looked like a “Joan of Arc”. I could only see a part of the face, which was revealed by an open visor, and it was the face neither of a man nor of a woman but the face of an androgen.
This figure held the horse in check with the control of a few fingers on the reins, and I was aware that I was seeing my “Guardian Angel”. I knew that this Angel was my Angel who watched over me and taught me and was the “teacher” in charge of me.
As I watched, I saw this Angel slowly pull the horse around to the left side and lead the horse down into the valley into the land of the tents. I “knew” that these tents were the “world of the Angels”, and I “realized” that the “river” that was in the valley was symbolic of the divider that separated my world from the Angel worlds.
When I saw this Angel go down this hillock into the valley, I was so saddened, so heartbroken because I was “losing” a beautiful Angel.
As I felt this anguish of losing this Angel, I was “told” that what I was seeing was the “changing of the guard”, (God), the time when a “Guardian Angel”, who many have been with you many lifetimes, is finished with your teaching and another “Guardian Angel” teacher takes "his" place. I felt as if I had lost a dear friend.
In the Angel state there is no male or female. Angels are androgynous. They can “become” any form or sex that they wish. They are not limited by the conditions of sickness or death and they do not practice sex or procreate. These conditions exist only in our physical world.
Angels do not require a physical vehicle such as a UFO to travel because their composition is “energy” and often they make their appearance as “balls” of intense colored energy light. They take “forms” and “shapes” whenever they have to communicate with humans who need to communicate with a “physical type” being.
We cannot comprehend the worlds of Angels due to the limitations of our minds and to the fact that we have no points of reference to compare the worlds of Angels to the world of human beings. In order for me to “see” the “big picture” of creation and to facilitate my search for understanding, I do not consider Angels to be religious entities but rather as more “advanced” beings from higher dimensional worlds.
I welcome diverse, but interesting theories and opinions, that's what makes an intelligent conversation. I believe that the conscious mind is the "stupid" mind and that the subconscious mind is capable of a “higher” level of thinking and communication with entities from higher worlds and dimensions. For me the conscious mind is like my “computer”, it can only function with “input” and logic based on information stored in its “databanks”.
Angels and ETs communicate with us in “dreams” and “visions” and by putting us into a "trance like" state of “mind control”.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:13pm

2.

"The reason for this is very simple. The information and belief systems “stored” in the conscious mind interferes with the higher frequency of communication from "higher world" beings. This creates “resistance”, whereas the “dream state”, or “vision” state is a much easier medium for this type of communication.
A good example of this is Edgar Cayce, also known as, "The Sleeping Prophet". The Angels had to put him in an unconscious sleep state to “bypass” his conscious mind, because his conscious mind was “programmed” with religious teachings and concepts. Therefore, he had to be "put under" in order for these higher frequency "inspired" teachings to "come through". Spiritualist mediums similarly receive their inspired teachings, while in a "trance state".
Problems that seem too difficult to solve in the "waking" or conscious mind state are often solved by the subconscious mind in the sleep or "dream state". Let us try to understand that Angels and beings from higher worlds are higher frequency, they have to “step down” their vibrations like a step down transformer has to convert a higher frequency to a lower frequency. That is why we do not “really” receive inspired teachings or messages from the “departed” or “spirits” of the dead. They do not have the power to "raise" themselves. The communication comes from Angels who “impersonate” the deceased, in order to maintain comfort and contact with human beings.
I know it is very difficult for most people to understand the worlds of Angels. There are many recorded incidents in the Bible where religious figures have been contacted by ET's from UFOs and they have been “recorded” in the bibles as Angels.
There are many accounts in the King James Bible of Angels coming to biblical characters to assure them that an upcoming battle with superior forces would be won by them.
In some instances Angels are sent as “messengers” to “warn” or to reassure certain people. The incident of Sodom and Gomorrah required Angels to warn Lot and his family to flee before the destruction of these cities would take place. Sometimes, Angels come as messengers to “predict” an important event.
There are many stories from ancient books and bibles of evil Angels pretending to be good in order to work their evil mischief. Sometimes evil Angels masquerade as priests or holy men to lead people astray and to confuse them. That is why Satan and his Angels are called, "The Great Deceivers". As we grow in evolution we develop an inner “radar" or a protective sense that warns us and protects us from doers of evil. I believe that there are good and evil Angels. I believe that at various times in the past there were “wars” in the "Heavens" between the good and evil Angels. I believe that these battles and wars were recorded in various bibles and ancient religions, as well as in mythology. I believe that very few people can “understand” the meaning of what is written in the bibles.
Most of us have had experiences with Angel messengers unbeknownst to ourselves. Sometimes we recognize them, sometimes we do not. Nobody has really seen an Angel in its “true” form, unless they have seen the brilliant "spark" of high energy electricity, which is the “true” energy form of an Angel.
Many times Angels or ETs from higher dimensional worlds are sent to lower worlds to raise the vibrations, or to monitor the activities of a planet or world system, if it is perceived that there is the danger of imminent self-destruction. This is what is being done on this planet at this time to protect the balance and integrity of the universe.
Angels are from different dimensional worlds and are able to circumvent the physical laws of our world. I believe that they have the power of “life-and-death” and that they are able to see the future and to manipulate time. Because we cannot comprehend this does not mean that it does not exist."............ Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:22pm

3.

Chapter Twenty-Six
Angels and UFOs
1.
"I have had numerous contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. Yet, sometimes what I believe to be an ET exhibits the behavior and characteristics of an Angel. This makes it very difficult for me to properly “differentiate” between Angels and ETs. To illustrate my quandary, here is a recounting of some of the different types of contacts which I have had with Angels and ETs.
My first UFOs sighting was when I was about 14 years old which was 1944.
I was on the beach in Coney Island, Brooklyn and I looked up at the sky and I saw a “stationary” object that seemed to be gently “rocking” in the wind. It looked like a “dirigible” and it was black in color and it had what appeared to be a “gondola” underneath it and there were “ropes or cables” hanging from the gondola.
This “object” was no more than 500 feet above the ground and when I looked at the gondola I did not see any evidence of any “personnel” on board. I thought that this was a dirigible that had broken loose from its moorings in New Jersey and had drifted away.
I turned away from this “object” for several seconds and when I looked again it was “gone”. I thought it was “odd” that there was no one on board and that it could have “disappeared” so quickly. When I got older and became interested in UFOs I realize that what I had probably seen was a “mother ship” UFO.
When I was 19 years old I was in the backyard of my mother's house in Brooklyn and I was looking at the stars with an eight power pair of binoculars. I was looking at the “Big Dipper” in particular.
Then, I noticed what appeared to be one of the “stars” just “glide” across that constellation. When I followed it with the binoculars, it was an “amber colored” globe of “light” and although I looked at it with the binoculars I did not see any “structure” or solid material.
When I tried to "sense" the structure of that UFO, I felt that it was not a “spacecraft” in the orthodox sense but was rather a “living being” manifesting as a globe of “light”. I also "sensed" that this amber colored “light” was a “messenger” that was communicating with other UFOs.
When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were very interested in UFOs. I was interested both in “psychic development” and UFOs and they wanted me to go with them to stay at the home of the UFO author, George Hunt Williamson in Arizona, because he was “contacting” UFOs.
I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience;
I went to bed that night, but before I went to sleep I had the conviction that I was going to meet a UFO that night and make a “contact”. I went to sleep, and I had a “dream”.
In this “dream” I saw myself at a “train station” that was “elevated” above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was “waiting” to meet someone from a UFO, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look “unusual”. I anticipated that “he” would have an “antenna” coming out of “his” head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody “abnormal looking”.
As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a “man” walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody “weird” and here was this “normal” looking “man” walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed “him” and he said to me, "Mr. Greif, I believe you're waiting for me".
I looked at “him” and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical “Madison Avenue” advertising man. When he said, “I believe you're waiting for me”, I knew that this was my "contact".
We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene “changed”. Instead of a modern street, it became a “biblical desert”.
Time was turned “back” to the time of the “Old Testament”, and I saw that this desert was a “plain” that “stretched out” in front of me. At the end of this plain was a “silver river”. We walked together “side-by-side” alongside this “river”.
As soon as this “scene” had changed, this “man” who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met “him”, started to “grow” until “he” became 6 feet tall and “his” clothes became the “biblical robes” of a prophet of the “Old Testament”. When I was walking next to “him”, I felt that I was in the presence of a being that was “God-like”. I was “awed” by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.
The being “talked” to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because “he” was taller than me and I wanted to hear what “he” was saying. I cannot remember the words, but I remember that “his” voice was like “pure liquid silver” and “his” words went through my ear and into my soul.
I was “told” at that time that I was given “teachings” that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words “when it was right for me to remember”, and that these words were impressed “deep into my soul”......Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:24pm

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"In July in the 1960s I was working at the Grand Central Post Office station in Manhattan as a clerk. I was hurrying to work and I knew that I must get to work on time or be “written up”. It was about 3:45 in the afternoon and it was a sunny day in July and the sidewalks were crowded with people.
I was south of Lexington Avenue and East 42nd Street and walking very briskly while trying to “dodge” the heavy pedestrian traffic. As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly “felt” that a “portion” of my skull in the back of my head had been “removed” in an area of about 5 inches in diameter.
It “felt” to me as if I was having a “lobotomy operation” and I could feel the “coolness” inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head became “numb”. This feeling of “numbness” was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the “pinching off” of a nerve.
Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an “eye” in this “missing” area of my head, a “disk shaped” UFO which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This “craft” was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle “magnetic breeze”. I was able to “see” into the “interior” of the UFO whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 6 inches tall. They all had white skin; black hair, grey eyes, and they all looked “identical” in appearance. They were each dressed in a “grey colored mechanics type overall”, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
My inner “feeling” was that these “men” were not physical persons or “life forms” as we know them but were manufactured artificial intelligence “constructions” that were “designed” to operate this UFO.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised “plastic type” molded chair. He was facing a “crescent shaped” keyboard that had rows of many different “colored lights” and he was not touching the “keys” with his hands but only passing his hands over the “keys” to activate the controls. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the “music organ at Radio City Music Hall”. I “knew” that this keyboard was the “operating panel” for this UFO.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the UFO toward the “center”. The third “man” was bent over a central “support column” which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the “center axis of a gyroscope”.
He was peering into a black “binocular type sighting device”, which somehow reminded me of a “Norden bomb-sight”. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.
Then, I saw what looked like a “steel cable” coming from the bottom of the UFO and connecting to the back of my head where I felt the “numbness”, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a “communication connection” had been made from this UFO to my brain.
The “cable” followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was “connected mentally” to that UFO.
During that day at work I tried to “believe” that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as a hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house, I saw a brilliant “flash” of “silver light” streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored “metallic object”. This “silver light” traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow.
At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, “exactly” 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a “confirmation” from the UFO that my experience had been real.
In 1973 my family and I traveled to Montréal Canada. During this trip, I experienced a “raising of consciousness” when I sat on the grass at the base of a gigantic “aluminum cross” that was located on a hill in Mount Royale. The wind vibrated this cross and the “high frequency sound”, which was produced, lifted me to a “spiritual ecstasy”.
During my visit to Montréal I visited a Spiritualist church and Reverend Rawls “ordained” me as a “minister” of the Spiritualist church. I was “amazed” that after knowing me for only two days she chose to ordain me as a minister. She asked me to lecture to her congregation, to which I agreed.
In the “cosmic reality” which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as “important” as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of people.
This was made apparent to me in the lecture which I did in Montreal at that Spiritualist church. My lecture subject was, "UFOs and Angel worlds". The audience was mostly French-Canadians who understood very little English.
I was speaking at a “high level” of inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to myself, why am I speaking on such a high level when most of the audience cannot understand English?
At this time I looked at some of the faces in the audience and my attention was drawn to two “men” who were seated in the center row. When I looked at their eyes, I “knew” that they were, “not of this world”. There was the calmness and centered look of Angels in their eyes, and I knew they were Angels or UFO beings. I realized that they were “raising the frequency” of my lecture in order to “raise” the audience to a “higher level”.
After the lecture while I was seated in the rear of the church these two “men” came over to me and they smiled at me. One of these “men” said, "That was a fine lecture, Mr. Greif, "and the other “man” said, "You are the first "real" human being that I have met." At that time I felt honored as if I had just been “awarded” a cosmic, “Academy Award”.
Were these two “men” the same “men” who appeared as Angels to Lot in the bible? This was an entirely different type of Angel or UFO or ET experience, I had apparently contacted a higher intelligence entity in a “humanoid” form.
My most recent UFO “sighting” occurred in the summer of 2004 in the sky above Port St. Lucie, Florida. I was walking with my wife Connie about 7:30 in the morning and I looked up at the sky and I saw a “copper” colored, “pear shaped” UFO that was “stationary”. Regretfully, I did not have my camera with me.
I was aware that there were no “military bases” in this area, but there is an “atomic power plant” in St. Lucie County, in the general area of this UFO sighting. I “realize” now that this particular UFO was "mapping" the details and data of this atomic reactor. The “thinking” involved here is that UFOs or ETs do not perform random acts of appearance or contact unless there is a purpose to it.
Some ETs apparently have the ability to "morph" or "shape shift" or to take on any appearance that they wish. Some of the UFOs sightings seen in the skies over Mexico City in Mexico, have reported what appeared to be a “physical” UFO craft "morphing" into an “energy ship”, and then “disappearing”. In addition, some of the UFOs observed may be “holograms”. We are dealing with very advanced and sophisticated technology and we shall have to learn “new physics” and “inter-dimensional” travel logistics in order to understand them and their technology.
There are differences in the behavior of Angels and some types of UFOs. The crew of the “laboratory UFOs”, for instance, are usually artificial intelligence constructions which are manufactured to perform tasks and experiments and do research. They are very “focused” and “unemotional”. Their main program and objective is to fulfill their duties.
They do not demonstrate a sense of humor or “emotional responses”, except to “absorb” and imitate the emotions of the abductees. Angels on the other hand, are extremely emotional and many times respond to the thoughts and feelings of human beings.
We cannot comprehend the power of the “spoken word”. When our thoughts are expressed into sounds they become a vibration which affects not only the listeners but also the “Ethers” which connect all creation.
Thoughts and words can raise a person’s consciousness level. The subject is then subconsciously “broadcasting” this expanded consciousness vibration mentally into the “etheric realm” as “energy thought waves”.
This will have the effect of “raising” the vibration level of our world and affecting the entire universe. This is similar to “skimming” a flat pebble onto the surface of a lake and causing ripples to travel across the entire lake.
It is easier to “understand” the universe if you realize that everything in the universe is “connected” and that every thought, event or action “affects” the entire universe. No thought or action is ever “lost”. They are recorded in the ethers and can be accessed from the “time continuum”. The “time continuum”, or as the great psychic Edgar Casey called it, the “Akashic records” is a history of every event and happening since the beginning of creation. These “books” of the “Akashic records” are stored in the ethers.
This would explain how UFOs and beings from other dimensions know our past, present and future. They have the ability to access and “read” our history and future from the “time continuum”.
At this time in our history our planet is enveloped in a “dark cloud” of negative vibrations. Let us dissipate this darkness with the light of hope and faith and the belief that we can change our world by connecting to our Angels and our higher selves.
When we are inspired by Angels to think or speak or write higher concepts of thought we are helping raise the vibrational frequency of this world."
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:28pm

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"The Angels inspire higher communication to act as a “catalyst” and a “platform” for them to raise the consciousness levels of people. Our participation is important to assist the Angels in this most important work. We can help “change” our world to be a better place by thinking and speaking higher thoughts.
What if, some of these UFOs are the architects that designed us, who are now looking to “redesign” us, as an “improved” generation? What if, the Angels that are recorded in ancient bibles and religious texts were UFO beings?
What if, these UFOs have the answers to who we are, who created us, and where we go from here? What if, all creation and everything that exists is living, intelligent “energy plasma” like a humongous fabric of creation?
What if, the only difference between matter and energy is the “difference in frequency”? What if, the way to navigate creation and to “travel inter-dimensional” is to be able to “change” frequency?
These concepts would explain why UFOs are able to employ a higher form of physics and performance that we cannot comprehend. Let us stop trying to measure them with our scientific “six-inch ruler” and learn to think with an abstract “quantum physics” variation of logic.
In order to understand the mysteries of the UFOs and “inter-dimensional travel” we have to learn to think a different way. Our physics is from the physical world that we live in and does not apply or relates to their worlds.
Our mathematical and scientific logic does not work in understanding other dimensional worlds and the worlds of UFOs. What we have learned in our schools and books will not help us. The laws of science that apply to the physical world that we live in do not apply to “their” worlds. "They" are not subject to our “physical laws”.
We have to learn to think in abstract logic. E.g.: two plus two equals five. The shortest distance in space is a curved line. The physics law that, “two bodies cannot occupy the same space at the same time”, is not true in the other dimensional worlds of Angels and UFOs. Our physics law that, “for every action there is a reaction”, does not apply in the world of UFOs.
In order to understand “them” and their worlds we have to learn to think in a “new” abstract and quantum physics “random type” logic. We have to expand our minds to be able to think and visualize and concept “out of the box”. That is the only way that we can understand the UFOs phenomena and comprehend the “reality” of other dimensional worlds.
In the book written about Betty and Barney Hill regarding their “abduction” Barney Hill stated that he had no intention of traveling that particular route but he traveled it anyway. It is apparent to me that the UFOs are able to either predict where someone will be or to control that person to make them go where they want. This is a frightening form of “mind control”.
I also believe that the “Roswell crashed UFO” was not an accident but was premeditated in order to give us research material and to “jumpstart” us in a new direction.
It is “obvious” to me that ETs are from “other dimensions”. The “powers” that they exhibit both mentally and physically “prove” my theory. We have tried to knock down the UFOs with our physical weapons and even our most advanced missiles but they have avoided being hit, similar to a “bull fighter” dodging a bull. They have made fun of our best weapons and ridiculed our attempts to harm or destroy them.
There are many occasions when physical communication and monitoring devices are “implanted” in many abductees. Usually when the abductees discover the implants and plan to have it “surgically removed” the ETs “visit” the abductees and retrieve the implants.
As a “psychic” over a period of many years I was able to discover that at least 10 persons whom I had “analyzed” were “implanted” with a monitoring device by the UFOs, similar to the "tagging" of living creatures by our sciences in order to monitor their life functions.
If you “step back” in order to see the “big picture” you'll see a gigantic mosaic of interacting and interrelating phenomenon which are necessary to prepare and condition human beings for this planetary transition.
Books are being written which “appear” to be science-fiction, movies are being made about monsters and aliens and “artificial intelligence” creatures.
I believe that the entire media is being controlled and manipulated by Angels or angelic UFOs as mental and emotional preparation for the global transition that this world will undergo between 2010 and 2012.
Consider the “Nazca drawings” and the “crop circle” geometrics. These were designed to influence and stimulate “subliminally” the minds of people. Now, ET communication is using all forms of media. Only a limited number will benefit from this dispensation of learning. Let us be included in that limited number."


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 3rd, 2009, 5:38pm

Hi timetraveler its been awhile since I have spoken to you, you are right in some aspects to your angels but it is you your soul who decides before you are born which lesson it is you want to learn and to whom you will be born to to learn it as well you also choose when you pass on this all happens before you enter you physical bodies, sure we have a say as do the angels but it is you your soul who makes the final desitions. I know you know what I am taking about because you already know who I am, Angels are there to guide you and to keep you on the path that you have choosen and to be your shadow so to speak, so that if you stray they guide you back again. They also protect you in times of danger, that were not a part of your learning plan, and they will guide you back to the one when you have completed your learning path. Just a bit of enlightenment. Talk to you soon
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 4th, 2009, 11:24am

Whitewolf; I beg to disagree with you.

You remind me of a vision that I had a long time ago. In this vision I saw myself as an adult body and there was a white cloth tied tightly around my forehead, which I believe was to hold my mind inside my head. There were two Angels, one on each side of me and I knew that they were putting me in the, "birth canal" to be born. I did not wish to be born into this Earth system because it was a physical World and I was used to existing in a mental World. But in spite of my objections, I was forced to be born. So, I was born into this Earth system under protest.
But I have realized that I was not born to punish me but rather to teach me and for me to be of use in the transition of this Planet from an animal World to a more angelic World.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 4th, 2009, 1:03pm

whitewolf; let me speak in a language that you can understand.

Many years ago the sky people came down in their big canoes, [UFOs], and they went to the medicine men of all of the different tribes in the United States and they warned them that when the buffalo were gone all of the Indian tribes would be devastated and they told the Indian tribes to travel north to survive. The medicine men did not believe this warning because the buffalo was so numerous and they believed that the spirit of the "white buffalo" would protect them.


You know what happened. Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jun 4th, 2009, 2:18pm

Hi, timetraveler,
I see you already forgot who I am, and if so then you will not remember anything that I have told you in the past. Or when I touched your shoulder I have been many many many forms to noumerous for you to comprehend. Many have called me The Goddess of Three and many more have called me the Goddess of Love, Smithcraft, and all that is magic or medicine some will call it. Millions have seen me in there dreams as a white light others as a white wolf and many others as a beautiful woman bathed in a white glow with the awsome feeling of Love emenating from my very being I am from that so called electrical place were one day it will be my turn to create beings, for know I am here to help all understand who and what and why they are here and to save a few who will remain here upon this earth, for the new begining and they already know who they are for they have already seen me in dream. For everyone else I am here to help them transend into that higher plane, and if they do not wish to learn then I must let them go. I see all and here all when you pray for love or help it is me that appears. Like I was called when the plane crashed into the atlantic ocean the other day I was watching it crash and I know were it is I helped all to transed because yes it was there turn and they called out to me, otherwise i would not have been there to see it happen. I can not explain any more you will only have to witness it when the time comes.

love to all from the Goddess of three
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by WolfBinarySystem on Jun 12th, 2009, 8:39pm

There are many different species and civilizations. Some are interested in the earth, some not. That is why people see so many types of craft in our skies. For some of them visiting the earth is little more than an elementary school field trip.

The infamous Greys just happen to be the closest neighbors to earth.That is why so many people claim to have seen them. They visit earth often. If you were close neighbors to a species as savage, cruel, warlike, sadistic, arrogant and aggressive as mankind you would keep a close eye on us, too.

But, it's not the Greys you need to worry about. It's the ones variously called the Old Ones, The First Born, The First Aware, The Old Women, etc. that you really should focus your minds on. They are the most intelligent, most powerful, oldest, and most advanced species in this quadrant of the universe. They were the first to stand upright and become self-aware. They were exploring the stars when we were still close cousins to the lemurs. Their technology is so advanced that there are no words or concepts to describe it. Our current physics is on a par with a witch doctor beating a log with a stick compared to theirs.

They are only marginally interested in us. They've seen our kind come and go. They visit on occasion just to make certain the natives won't cause any trouble. If the day ever comes when we figure out what their propulsion system is, they'll drop in and read us the riot act. There'll be no expeditions to other inhabited planets to see what we can plunder, rob, steal or colonize. It's a bit like that Prime Directive in Star Trek, but it cuts both ways. Why do you think there's been no official alien delegation to the UN? The Old Ones make the rules and nobody, but nobody, crosses them.

Oh, and don't even think about talking to them as equals. They are proud and aloof and brook no interference in their affairs. As far as they are concerned this is their universe and we are late comers to the party.

What do they look like? They would scare you down to your socks if you saw one. There's more than one morphological type, but their basic design is a cross between a five foot tall ant and a human skeleton. Their idea of beauty is orange and thin. Their heads are huge, their brains enormous, their eyes are black and come far down their faces, and they are surprisingly strong and quick.Their skin is a coppery color and tough as insect chitin.

Oh, and they are telepathic. That's one reason they view us humans as little more than high level animals. They think of us the way we might think of a rhesus monkey. We're smart in our own way, but how do you talk to one? Most spacefaring species are telepathic. That's something we're going to have to deal with when and if the day comes. Why do you think they are doing all of that genetic manipulation on us on the sly? Is it because they want to create hybrids for the sake of hybrids? No, it's all about communication. They can't talk to us and we can't understand them. (Check out the Old Testament story where "god" spoke to the Hebrews in the desert and their heads almost exploded. They pleaded with "god" never to speak to them directly again. He said he wouldn't. Don't you find that a strange way for a "god" to behave? Their telepathic powers simply swamp our brains and drive us crazy. We can't take it. It's like hearing a hundred bullhorns at once. And lets not even throw Christianity into the mix. That's just an absurd fairy tale.) And, lest you doubt any of this, be clear that a "universal translator" isn't all that easy or simple or precise. Think about talking to a dolphin. How would you go about it? Or even more to the point, how would you talk to a bee? Not so easy, huh?

How do I know all this, you might ask? Check out my screen name. There's a hint for you. The truth is, I don't care if any of you believe me or not. I probably shouldn't be telling you any of this anyway, but now that the French may come clean about what they know I reckon it's just a matter of time before the UK and USA follows suit. What a storm that will be, too. It'll be like entering adolescence. I just wish Arthur C. Clarke were still alive. He'd be a happy man.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jun 13th, 2009, 09:12am

I am having a problem relating to your descriptions of ET's. I have been contacted by Angels in their high energy state. I have been contacted by UFOs as physical projections. I have been contacted by human like ET's. And I have been attacked many times by demonic creatures from the fourth dimension. I submit these excerpts from my book,"Other Dimensions".

"I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.

This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks.

Evidently my cry for help was heard.


In 1973 I was giving a lecture in Montreal at a Spiritualist church at the request of Reverend Rawls, and my lecture subject was, "UFOs and Angel Worlds". The audience was mostly French-Canadians who understood very little English.
I was speaking at a high level of inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to myself, why am I speaking on such a high level when most of the audience cannot understand English?
At this time I looked at some of the faces in the audience and my attention was drawn to two “men” who were seated in the center row. When I looked at their eyes, I knew that they were not of this world. There was the calmness and centered look of Angels in their eyes, and I knew they were Angels or UFO Beings. I realized that they were raising the frequency of my lecture in order to raise the audience to a higher level.
After the lecture while I was seated in the rear of the church these two “men” came over to me and they smiled at me. One of these “men” said, "That was a fine lecture, Mr. Greif, "and the other “man” said, "You are the first "real" Human being that I have met." At that time I felt honored as if I had just been awarded the cosmic Academy Award.

My quandary has been are UFO's really Angels? Or, are Angels really UFO beings? I have lifted one of my experiences from an earlier posting and I am posting it here for your perusal.
This is a common practice of UFOs to seed the minds of certain people for future awakening. This has also happened to me. I will recount this experience as follows;

Are UFOs Angels?

I have had several contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. My dilemma is that sometimes I do not know if the UFO contacts are really Angels. Here are some examples from my book, "Other Dimensions".

"When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were interested in UFOs. I was interested both in psychic development and UFOs, and they wanted me to go with them to George Hunt Williamson in Arizona because he was contacting UFOs.

I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience. I went to bed one night, but before I went to sleep, I had the conviction that I was going to meet a flying saucer that night and make a contact. I went to sleep, and I had a dream. In this dream I saw myself at a train station that was elevated above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was waiting to meet a flying saucer person, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look unusual. He probably would have an antenna coming out of his head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody abnormal looking.

As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a man walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody weird, and here was this normal man walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed him and he said to me, "Mr. Greif I believe you're waiting for me". I looked at him and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical Madison Avenue businessman. When he said I believe you're waiting for me I knew that this was my "contact".

We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene changed. Instead of a modern street, it became a biblical desert. Time was turned back to the time of the Old Testament, and I saw that this desert was a plain that stretched out in front of me. At the end of this plain was a silver river. We walked together side-by-side alongside this river.

As soon as this scene had changed, this figure who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met him, started to grow until he became 6 feet tall and his clothes became the biblical robes of a prophet of the Old Testament. When I was walking next to him, I felt in the presence of a being who was godlike. I was awed by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.

The being talked to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because he was taller than me and I wanted to hear what he was saying. He talked into my ear and I cannot remember the words, but I remember that his voice was like pure liquid silver and his words went through my ear and into my Soul. I was told at that time that I was given teachings that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words when it was right for me to remember, and that these words were impressed deep into my soul. "


What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by kale on Jun 29th, 2009, 1:37pm

Apparentally the average banana has 78% of the same DNA as us, so somewhere in the universe there must be some sort of odd creature with practically no DNA similarities.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ava on Jun 30th, 2009, 2:11pm

Timetraveler,

Does '"The Association To Advance Ethical Hypnosis' mean anything to you ?

ava


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by magnusalexa on Jul 8th, 2009, 9:03pm

the UFOs and visitors i encounter are fo 3 kinds, greys with big almond eyes and ones with normal sized eyes, and people like you and me, well theyre usually in their 20 and 30's or appear to be that age
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 9th, 2009, 09:46am

I am very disappointed that the radio online Manchester UK show called "explaining the unexplained" has chosen to drop me as a guest. Regarding the Angels andd ETs that can appear in any shape based upon the expectations and the level of consciousness of the contactee. They have no physical body or physical age. 50 years ago when I was first contacted by Angels and ET's they appeared to me to be similar to normal physical human beings. Now the angels appear to me as brilliant "sparks"of high energy. However, I cannot see them in their natural high-energy state with my five senses and my optical vision. I can only see them as high energy beings with my psychic third eye. They have come to me after I did a lecture in Montréal as two young men in their late 20s or 30s and they spoke to me but I knew that they were not from this world and that they were projections or holograms of human appearing beings. They come to us in forms that we can accept based upon our own limitations. The forms that they choose are based upon "the eyes of the beholder".



What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BlueMountainTracker on Jul 11th, 2009, 11:17am

I think that is it possible that aliens need skins of animals to make furs for protection from our sun.
Ever since I saw my fist UFO in 1999 (maybe the first was sometime is early 90's, since I saw something reflect off of window at neighbors house somewhere around 89 or 90-91) I have been subject to bigfoot experiences. I live in the heart of Walla Wallas Blue Mountain foot hills. To date, I am creating a map of all the sightings of BF and UFO's in this area that I can. There is a particular sighting in the 1920's where a crature was caught trying to steal a womans cows. She confronted the very tall creature and saw its face. She described it as a beiing with grey skin wearing fur.
Everytime I have seen a UFO it has been relatively close to a BF encounter or experience. I have heard some wicked screams on many occasions that I am most certain are possible Bigfoot/Alien screams.
I had an experience one night with my daughter that made us feel that we were standing within 10 feet of something (it raced toward us and stopped, we could hear it). We did not see it but it gave us a 3-d sense of 360 degree awareness. Sorta like it had made me aware of it's alien prescence.
While trying to formulate a Bigfoot / UFO research team to investigate my area more thoroughly, I met a guy named Zack that has convinced me of a story where they (he and friends)saw a creature that was 12-15 feet tall, with leathery skin and very dark. It chased the car at 60-65 MPH speeds before they actually started to lose this thing. His description of the skin he saw on the upper torso describes an alien in all of my wildest thought. He noticed that this silohette had no neck(possible BF). They saw this thing just seconds after sitting at an intersection while they observed a bright light in a field for half a minute.
I once thought I saw an alien out my bedroom window (three fingers, no thumb, about 4 feet tall, tops)through one angle of my eye. I have kept that experience hushed. I did see what I am pretty certain was a creature about 12 feet tall sitting on an Anti gravity devise floating through the air. This thing was BF all the way-except i noticed a boot line at the ankles. I saw its face . On another occasion, I saw a tall manlike figure take approximately 5 steps on a ridge near here. That span of field on that ridge would take me 50 steps.
So all in all, with the experiences that i have had and read about around here, I would suggest that Aliens possibly look Human, with pointed heads toward the back(like bf), and that they possible wear furs and are mistaken for BF at times. Who really knows, but I have suspicions that someday, proof will make the headlines as to what one of these things really are and what they look like. Maybe It looks like BF. Maybe not. I think it does in a way that it needs upclose research for story comparisons.. I hope to be the first with a defenite answer. That chance is probably so rare it would be like winning the jackpot for a billion dollars.
I say Chewbacca is a good descriptionof what they might look like, and what I think they can be percieved to resemble(if in fact we learn someday that they do wear furs)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 11th, 2009, 2:27pm

I think it is wonderful that you have had these spectacular sightings! I'm sure they are real and that you are truthful. But if you consider the hundreds if not thousands of different shapes and forms and designs of UFOs and ET's that have been sighted in the past thousands of years including the biblical sightings then you must ask yourself what are we seeing? Allow me to simplify. The beings that you call UFOs and ET's are not physical beings. The American Indians call these type of ET spirits "shape shifters"because they can assume or adapt to any shape or form that they wish. They have come to biblical characters as human looking and they've come to you as Bigfoot. You have made an accurate and revealing clue in your posting when you have observed that whenever you ever seen a creature that resembles Bigfoot a UFOs was close by. Do you see the connection? Ponder on this! Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BlueMountainTracker on Jul 11th, 2009, 8:31pm

I have had a better time joining the UFO forums than I have with the bigfootforums, particularly BIGFOOT FORUMS, because the people at these sites (ufo sites) are more interested in making connections in order to observe and study the mystery than the sites with a MISSION STATEMENT. You are right about this historical defenition of these creatures/aliens/beings.. Had you mentioned this at the forum above that I mentioned, you would have ben banned. so... Thanks for being receptive and understanding of where I come from. I am not sure how to add friends yet, so if you know how...add me please.
I sure hope to see revelations of evidence/ truths being sought in both fields. For all we know...we are researching the same phenomenon
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by gainer on Jul 12th, 2009, 06:42am

I was watching an old x-files episode the other night. In this one aliens had sent down robotic xxxxroaches down to earth. An exterminator was trying to kill a xxxxroach colony that was actually a robotic colony of xxxxroaches that turned around and killed him instead. Since this is what do aliens look like thread I doubt this would apply to the way the actual aliens themselves look like. But it got me thinking of how easily this could be done in say new york or some place like that and no one would notice. If aliens are so advanced they can travel thousands of light years to earth then surely there robotics and nano-robotics are extremely advanced as well. We are barely starting to touch this stuff here on earth I can only imagine how good thier nano-robotics/robotics must be.

The editor will root out cockroaches just no i meant to say cochroaches
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jul 12th, 2009, 09:18am

Thank you for your beautiful postings. My search is for Understanding. I wish to know what is the Creator Spirit, what is the purpose of creation, what is the purpose of the human race and why we exist on this physical planet? I'm 79 years old and I've spent many lifetime reincarnating in this physical world as well as many other lifetimes in nonphysical worlds searching these mysteries. The only true answers that I have received are from my Guardian Angel and angelic UFOs. Our interpretation of all religions do not make any sense and religions cause wars and dissension and prejudice. We need a universal belief system to unify the human race and to help raise its consciousness level. Until we can understand that everything in existence is connected and everything is the DNA of the Creator Spirit then we cannot understand the "Big Picture". Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jul 12th, 2009, 2:41pm

Hi Timetraveller;

with that last sentence you have already grasped what the native and abouriginal tribes and collonies have always known it is now up to the rest of the world to grasp what you have already known yourself in your heart. It will be soon again when you will rejoin this relm once more, you have learned so much more than most it makes my heart swell with joy that you have attained what you were sent back here to earth for. Hope many more will learn just as fast and to listen to there hearts and not there minds for that spiritual side will come from the heart and not the analitical side of humanity.

always the one who watches over all Whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonegatherer on Jul 13th, 2009, 4:54pm

wtf?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by beeleaver66 on Jul 18th, 2009, 2:34pm

Here's what the Seth Shostak has to say recently:

http://www.seti.org/Page.aspx?pid=1347


I like this guy, he is in a unique position, he is sanctioned and funded by a Government that denies and withholds the evidence of ET. And yet is free to opine as to the Biological form they might take. And that he says they will probably be machines, is telling.
I myself believe in the SETI mission, even though it is a contradiction in terms of its Employer. His new book looks good BTW.
A. Beeleaver

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by getcruunkk on Jul 21st, 2009, 01:45am

Quote:
I was watching an old x-files episode the other night. In this one aliens had sent down robotic xxxxroaches down to earth. An exterminator was trying to kill a xxxxroach colony that was actually a robotic colony of xxxxroaches that turned around and killed him instead.


Isn't that the Men In Black storyline? It sounds familiar...

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chaostheorem on Jul 21st, 2009, 07:10am

on Jul 18th, 2009, 2:34pm, beeleaver66 wrote:
I like this guy, he is in a unique position, he is sanctioned and funded by a Government that denies and withholds the evidence of ET. And yet is free to opine as to the Biological form they might take. And that he says they will probably be machines, is telling.
I myself believe in the SETI mission, even though it is a contradiction in terms of its Employer. His new book looks good BTW.
A. Beeleaver



I see what you meen Beeleaver, he gives for the most part a balanced arguement. guys got a good sense of humour too.

but if ETs are robots, whose programmed them in the first place? and 'engineered biology' doesnt necerssarily meen mechanical, could be cloning; dna engineering. I'm just not sure what the guys getting at with his arguement? his styles enjoyable to read though!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by gainer on Jul 21st, 2009, 08:25am

Quote:
Isn't that the Men In Black storyline? It sounds familiar...


Didn't think about that one getcruunk. But yeah its kind of like that. MIB has a simular story like that I believe. One of their themes in the movie is how we think aliens have to be larger or bigger then life when chances are they are very small like in stature. Just because your microscopic doesn't mean you have microscopic intelligence. I believe the greys are only like 4ft they say. I think we as humans tend to size everything up as our size our dimensions however it may be just the opposite in terms of how the universe sizes up life. We may be considered giants to some intellegent life forms, or we may be considered small to others. Who knows
?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by beeleaver66 on Jul 21st, 2009, 08:26am

Personally, I think He is promoting his new Book, he is not known for opining or talking much about ET technology, or what they look like, or where they're from. He is a Scientist attempting to find a needle in a million Haystacks! His sense of humor disarms his scientific side. But he is all about facts. Then again, he may be the best man for the Job of midsdirecting
purposely misleading us. His may be an organization responsible for actual communication uplinks to various ETs throughout the Galaxy! For all we know. It would explain the reason for SETI, why, if the Government knows about ETs, do we need to spend billions, trying to find them? Hoping to hear one little Blip, of a supposed transmission. No, I think there is something more to it. Dont know what it is though.
A. Beeleaver
A.Beeleaver
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by chaostheorem on Jul 21st, 2009, 09:24am

I see what you mean.
The idea of 'alien robots' would sound so strange
that the general public are going to assume theres something wrong with him hehe.
Hence they asscosiate him with ufologists and other scientists trying to prove the existance of ETs and
discredits them.

It could be entireley his view but the fact hes
funded by the government is to his downfall.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Angelika18 on Aug 25th, 2009, 08:36am

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Sep 16th, 2009, 1:41pm

I try not to be judgmental or act superior. When I was in public school I was very bored with the level of teaching. I could not concentrate so I escaped the room by looking out of the window. My mother kept getting notes from my teachers that I kept staring out of the windows and that my mind seemed to be 1,000,000 miles away. I've had this situation all of my life. For some reason I was selected to be taught directly from Angels and UFOs and ET's. I have a very low tolerance for the level of teaching of this world. I am guessing that the reason I have been used as a medium of communication between the Angel worlds and this world is because of my past lives recalls of living in other dimensional worlds as a nonphysical being. I will share with you an excerpt from my book,"Other Dimensions", which is available from Amazon and Barnes & Noble, which was my highest and most elevated consciousness experience in this life:

"Chapter Eleven
Cosmic Consciousness

A “Cosmic consciousness” experience occurs when Angels, “hold you in their hands” and for a few seconds in time raise your vibrations and transport you to sublime ecstasy awareness. This is not to be confused with an “astral projection” experience in which the subject by his or her own control has made the spirit leave the body and travel to a different location.
In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I had what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being “pursued” by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape.
I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic “courtyard” completely different from the other backyards. The ground consisted of black and white marble squares set in a “checkerboard” pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard I saw a black wrought iron fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle “breeze” blowing on me. As my “dream figure” stood there, the “breeze” became a little stronger and more so until it was a “wind”, and then it became the strong wind of a “hurricane”.
I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious “wind”. The “dream figure” asked itself, “where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream”. Then the strong “wind” knocked the “dream figure” down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then, I was seized in the grip of a powerful “magnetic” force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an “elevator” toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the “dream figure” being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a “higher self” overseeing this entire experience.
As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and that this would mean my physical death. I extended my “dream figure’s” arms in the dream, as well as my actual physical arms, in an attempt to stop this “magnetic” pull.
When the “dream figure” was halfway between my bed and the sky an “ecstatic” feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of “pure love” such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of “love” transcended any earthly love. This “love” was so beautiful and “pure” that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul “home” to its source.
At that instant I reached up with my arms, in the dream and in my physical body, to draw toward this beautiful “ecstasy”. At that time I had no thought of anything on this Earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. I was only aware of the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force.
Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch closing in the hallway. Instantly the “dream figure” stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an “elevator” until it reentered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy “safe door” closing and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the “dream figure” had “joined” with the physical body and I was a “whole” person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly, the tingling sensation began to wear off and I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements.
I was never the same after this experience and my “value system” changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on Earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. When you have had the most personal experience of a “cosmic consciousness” you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a “cosmic consciousness”, or similar type of experience. When I had this “cosmic consciousness” experience I felt that I was finally going "home". At no time during this “supreme” experience did I see or feel any person or “human like” figure. What I experienced was a feeling of “total love” of a quality and purity that is unimaginable and indescribable. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system.
For a few seconds in time I was “one” with the universe. I was able to know and understand “everything”. I was “connected” to the totality of our existence. When my spirit “returned” into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much more intense and “real” than the physical reality of my life. The euphoric feeling which I had was that I was experiencing a state of “reality” which transcended my physical life and which made my actual life seem unreal.
What I experienced was the “ultimate reality” and it “inspired” me with the hope and belief that existence and the universe were beautiful and intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding. I realized that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.
What I had experienced was not a classical "OOB" [“out of body”] experience. I call it a "cosmic consciousness" experience. The difference is that a classical "OOB" experience is a form of "astral projection", which usually occurs either when you are close to death, "near death experience" [NDE] or when you will have created an "OOB" experience by intense meditation or mental discipline. These types of “OOB” experiences are two-dimensional, whereas if you recall, in my cosmic consciousness experience I was aware of three separate consciousness levels.
There is a vast difference between my experience, and "OOB"experiences. It is also interesting that the experimental "subjects" used in project "Stargate" all suffered residual damage to their minds, emotions, and in some cases to their physical bodies. Certain "travelers" involved in this project, "came back" and reported seeing UFOs and other astral creatures which frightened them.
I do not recommend that anybody attempt to mind control or manipulate their mind or consciousness to attempt a controlled "OOB" experience. This will bring you into other dimensions of astral worlds which have some weird forms. I hope that this clarifies the difference between a "cosmic consciousness" experience and various forms of "OOB"experiences.
Certain Holy men and Shamans are able to create a type of "bi-location" where they can actually be in two physical places at the same time. This is a type of controlled "OOB" experience or "astral projection". This is different from being "taken over" by Angels, and "raised” to an Angel world for a few seconds. I believe that humans are presently being “conditioned” by Angels to be more psychic and to develop their mental and telepathic abilities in order to raise their level of understanding."

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cryptoufo on Oct 3rd, 2009, 10:29am

i think likethe movies. little grey aliens with big head and big black eyes
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by DickeyStevenson on Oct 5th, 2009, 3:26pm

on Oct 3rd, 2009, 10:29am, cryptoufo wrote:
i think likethe movies. little grey aliens with big head and big black eyes


yeah, they look exactly like this. like this one captured right here on video tape in 1996.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Gill4 on Oct 7th, 2009, 05:24am

I'm quite new to all this, but there have been some weird sightings in Scotland lately. I'm starting to believe there really is something out there.

I used to think this was all just nonsense. but i'm a bit freaked out...! shocked

Check out this - quite exciting that there's a film being made! http://programmes.stv.tv/the-hour/news-gossip/128129-scotlands-biggest-ufo-incident-to-hit-the-big-screen/ grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Oct 7th, 2009, 09:16am

I have seen the video and it is a very poor print and I can not honestly say that this appears to me to be a genuine ET. I've had contacts with ET's who looked like human beings and I have shaken hands with one of them and spoken to them. ET's are capable of assuming many forms and shapes but I do not accept this photo as a recognizable ET.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Dec 6th, 2009, 3:31pm

The 2 times I remember seeing the beings all other times just lights in the room or bright light coming over the trees. The 2 I saw the first time were a little over 4 feet tall the heads were not as big as most pictures you see the almond shaped eyes were more oblong then coming to a point it was dark in my room but there builds were small but fit them for there size.
They had no hair and the feeling I got from them was of curiosity more then them saying anything to me like the world is coming to a end.. The second one in the room of white light would like to say it was a ship but the room was so white no other control panels around I could see so who knows where I was no contoured lines anywhere.And I could only look above me I could not move my head to either side due to being confined. But not being hurt in anyway.I believe the being to be male why I do not know it just felt this way.He for sake of argument was taller over 5 feet could have been as tall as almost 6 feet or a little shorter. He had more of a palish color and almost a very very slight purple to him.His eyes as the other 2 oblong they fit his face he had black veins running all over his face and from what I could see when he bent over looking in my face they appeared to be threw all over his body.He also had no hair his eyes black but with a brownish tint in the middle.
He did not say anything as did the other 2 the time before.But I had no fear and really felt nothing but sadness.
I did not feel threatened or that I should be afraid. When it was over I felt happy and was thinking
know matter what my problems I am thankful for all I have experienced good, bad and when my day is over and I leave this place all is going to be ok.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 7th, 2009, 10:36am

When you deal with other worlds there is usually no sexual identity or procreation. When you deal with spirit or astral or mental or energy beings they take on the shape and form to meet the expectations or consciousness limitation of the contactee. For instance, if you are a child they will come to you as a mother or a father figure. If you are 79 years old as I am, they come to me as high energy sparks of brilliant colors of light. Everything is relative. I admire your positive attitude and my belief system is based upon the conviction that I have a Guardian Angel who is my teacher and protector. I also believe that Angels control everything and that our human minds cannot possibly understand the workings of Angels. I must also state that nobody can ever see an Angel in its true form except through the psychic third eye. Can you comprehend that Angels from the fifth dimensional world cannot enter into our third dimensional world in their true state without electrocuting every living thing in our world, including our solar system? It is difficult for the human mind to comprehend the workings of higher worlds.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ria on Dec 7th, 2009, 10:28pm

I think they are just like us also....Just imagine..if they have powers they will also have the ability to imitate us... If they will show up there real form and appearance there is a big possibility that they will be hunt by humans.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Dec 10th, 2009, 6:37pm

on Dec 7th, 2009, 10:28pm, ria wrote:
I think they are just like us also....Just imagine..if they have powers they will also have the ability to imitate us... If they will show up there real form and appearance there is a big possibility that they will be hunt by humans.
Yes but not all humans get freaked out by things looking different.I for instance love wild animals bears are one of my favorites over this 11 years I have come in contact with over 33 I have played with some and others appeared to be in a bad mood so I would just watch them until they appeared happy to me.Same things with hornets of yellow jackets.While at work there was a yellow jacket on the window that would not open.My friend at work said oh there is a yellow jacket better kill it before it stings someone.The yellow jacket only wanted to get out.I said I will let him out.I put my hand for it to crawl on it got between 2 of my fingers and put its wings together and went to sleep .My friend said its going to sleep.I said it has been struggling to get out that window who knows for how long.It feels the warmth of my body and feels comfortable and just wants to rest.I then brought it outside and moved my hands a little it did not want to leave.I said come on I have to go back to work moved my hand a little more and off it went.There is always the problem with many humans I do not like the way it looks kill it.Or some how that yellow jacket had nothing better to do then chase after someone and for fun attack.This is a problem you are right but not for all of us contactees or abductees.To many, think everything is out to get us instead of trying to just get to know it.If all you do is read men beat there wives or wives cheat on there husbands and then you just talk about this stuff all day read about it watch programs on tv about it.You will think all people are like this.As humans we have a lot of problems.But some do not think things that are different are not cool we do.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 12th, 2009, 09:12am

Your posts are very interesting "spacechild". I'm 79 years old and I am a psychic. I have been privileged to communicate and be taught by Angels and angelic UFOs. During my psychic career I attended séances of the famous trumpet medium Frank Decker. During one of these séances my deceased grandfather came to me and offered to be my teacher. I rejected this idea as I did not feel that he was high enough to teach me. At that point I received a message that the spirits of the dead do not communicate through séances but it is Angels who impersonate them to give comfort to the survivors.
Death is only a transitional change from one dimension into another and it is controlled by your Guardian Angel based on your life plan and whether you are better off remaining alive in this plane or reincarnating to give you a new life plan in a different body. The human mind cannot comprehend the workings of Angels and higher worlds. It is comforting to know that every one of us has a Guardian Angel who teaches us and protects us from harm and injury and premature death.

It is true that the only constant in existence is change. It is also true but incomprehensible to us that everything in existence is connected and dependent upon each other. If you can imagine the universe as a humongous body of water then you can conceive that every action, such as a disruption in a solar system or galaxy creates "ripples" that affect the entire body of creation. We also cannot comprehend that the sum of the mass of the essence and cosmic weight of both the created and the uncreated is always the same, regardless of changes. Einstein's theory of relativity affects everything that exists. Therefore, everything is real and has identity based on its relativity to other things.
I have had past lives flashbacks of existing in other non physical lives and dimensions such as Orion and it is very painful and stressful to be a human being because of the limitations of this third dimensional planet Earth.
I did not volunteer to come here but it was necessary for my learning.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonehead on Dec 12th, 2009, 1:45pm

on Dec 12th, 2009, 09:12am, timetraveler wrote:
Your posts are very interesting "spacechild".


I second that! Kindness to wasps! Priceless. wink



on Dec 12th, 2009, 09:12am, timetraveler wrote:
It is also true but incomprehensible to us that everything in existence is connected and dependent upon each other. If you can imagine the universe as a humongous body of water then you can conceive that every action, such as a disruption in a solar system or galaxy creates "ripples" that affect the entire body of creation. We also cannot comprehend that the sum of the mass of the essence and cosmic weight of both the created and the uncreated is always the same, regardless of changes. Einstein's theory of relativity affects everything that exists. Therefore, everything is real and has identity based on its relativity to other things.

What do you think? Irwyn


Sir, I think you are a gentleman and a scholar.

If everybody understood these universal truths, we would live on an enlightened planet. grin

Cheers!!

Bonehead

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Dec 13th, 2009, 09:58am

on Dec 12th, 2009, 1:45pm, bonehead wrote:
I second that! Kindness to wasps! Priceless. wink





Sir, I think you are a gentleman and a scholar.

If everybody understood these universal truths, we would live on an enlightened planet. grin

Cheers!!

Bonehead
Yes I am sure when there is a wasp or some other insect or other living thing it is happy I did not just think nothing of it and kill it.Just like I hope one day if beings come down here and say just step on and kill the humans there like a virus of destruction and they do not look anything like us so its ok.Yes and no big giant foot coming down on England.LOL
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 14th, 2009, 2:06pm

I have been saved from death many times. One time as I was just about to cross into the street, a truck that I didn’t see was coming right at me when something or someone pushed me back. That truck would have killed me on the spot.
Another time I was driving my car and I could not see out of my rear window because something was blocking my vision. I was about to put my car in reverse to get out of the way of a car in front. For some unknown reason, my car refused to move and in a few seconds, I saw that I would have crashed into a car not visible to me that was behind me. I had put my foot on the accelerator, but my car wouldn’t move as if somebody’s foot was between my foot and the accelerator.

I remember another dramatic close call with death. I had gone to a house on East Thirteenth Street near Third Avenue in Manhattan, which was a bad neighborhood, to do a psychic consultation. It was a two-story brownstone house, and I had to do a consultation for somebody who lived on the second floor. My appointment was for three o’clock.
I rang the doorbell and nobody answered. I rang again and again and still nobody answered, so I stepped back about ten feet to the curb to see if I could see anybody through the windows on the second floor.
As I stepped back, I heard the answering buzzer to open the door. As I started to walk the ten feet toward the doorknob, I had the most ridiculous feeling. I was feeling like a helium balloon, I was floating around, and I couldn’t get to that doorknob.
The instant that my hand touched the doorknob, the answering buzzer stopped sounding. I tried the doorknob, but the door wouldn’t open. As my hand was still on the doorknob, I heard the noise of a giant dog bounding down the stairs and tearing at the door with his teeth and paws.
When I went back there one hour later, my client on the second floor answered the doorbell and opened the door. He insisted that our appointment was for four o’clock. I told him what had happened at three o’clock, and he was horrified.
He said that it was impossible and that the dog, which was a Doberman killer dog, was never let out of the first-floor apartment.
That dog would have gone for my throat had I stepped in that hall, and in about ten seconds I would have been a dead man with my throat ripped apart.
I was stopped from going into the hallway.
When I had looked at the front windows after the dog bounded down, I had seen a black man looking at me from the first floor window, and when I looked into his eyes, I “saw” that he had no soul. That man was possessed by the Devil, and he was the owner of that dog. The Devil had set a trap for me. The Devil wanted me killed, using this dog as the executioner. This incident reinforced my belief that when Angels are with you they can protect you from the Devil.
I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.
This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks.
Evidently my cry for help was heard.

Chapter Eleven
Cosmic Consciousness
A “Cosmic consciousness” experience occurs when Angels, “hold you in their hands” and for a few seconds in time raise your vibrations and transport you to sublime ecstasy awareness. This is not to be confused with an “astral projection” experience in which the subject by his or her own control has made the spirit leave the body and travel to a different location.
In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I had what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being “pursued” by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape.
I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic “courtyard” completely different from the other backyards. The ground consisted of black and white marble squares set in a “checkerboard” pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard I saw a black wrought iron fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle “breeze” blowing on me. As my “dream figure” stood there, the “breeze” became a little stronger and more so until it was a “wind”, and then it became the strong wind of a “hurricane”.
I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious “wind”. The “dream figure” asked itself, “where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream”. Then the strong “wind” knocked the “dream figure” down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then, I was seized in the grip of a powerful “magnetic” force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an “elevator” toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the “dream figure” being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a “higher self” overseeing this entire experience.
As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and that this would mean my physical death. I extended my “dream figure’s” arms in the dream, as well as my actual physical arms, in an attempt to stop this “magnetic” pull.
When the “dream figure” was halfway between my bed and the sky an “ecstatic” feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of “pure love” such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of “love” transcended any earthly love. This “love” was so beautiful and “pure” that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul “home” to its source.
At that instant I reached up with my arms, in the dream and in my physical body, to draw toward this beautiful “ecstasy”. At that time I had no thought of anything on this Earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. I was only aware of the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force.
Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch closing in the hallway. Instantly the “dream figure” stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an “elevator” until it reentered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy “safe door” closing and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the “dream figure” had “joined” with the physical body and I was a “whole” person again.
Dung this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly, the tingling sensation began to wear off and I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements.
I was never the same after this experience and my “value system” changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on Earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. When you have had the most personal experience of a “cosmic consciousness” you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a “cosmic consciousness”, or similar type of experience.
When I had this “cosmic consciousness” experience I felt that I was finally going "home". At no time during this “supreme” experience did I see or feel any person or “human like” figure. What I experienced was a feeling of “total love” of a quality and purity that is unimaginable and indescribable. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system.

For a few seconds in time I was “one” with the universe. I was able to know and understand “everything”. I was “connected” to the totality of our existence. When my spirit “returned” into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much more intense and “real” than the physical reality of my life. The euphoric feeling which I had was that I was experiencing a state of “reality” which transcended my physical life and which made my actual life seem unreal.

What I experienced was the “ultimate reality” and it “inspired” me with the hope and belief that existence and the universe were beautiful and intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding. I realized that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.

I hope that you have enjoyed some of these excerpts from my book,"Other Dimensions" Irwyn.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Dec 14th, 2009, 4:58pm

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Yes but not all humans get freaked out by things looking different.I for instance love wild animals bears are one of my favorites over this 11 years I have come in contact with over 33 I have played with some and others appeared to be in a bad mood so I would just watch them until they appeared happy to me.Same things with hornets of yellow jackets.While at work there was a yellow jacket on the window that would not open.My friend at work said oh there is a yellow jacket better kill it before it stings someone.The yellow jacket only wanted to get out.I said I will let him out.I put my hand for it to crawl on it got between 2 of my fingers and put its wings together and went to sleep .My friend said its going to sleep.I said it has been struggling to get out that window who knows for how long.It feels the warmth of my body and feels comfortable and just wants to rest.I then brought it outside and moved my hands a little it did not want to leave.I said come on I have to go back to work moved my hand a little more and off it went.There is always the problem with many humans I do not like the way it looks kill it.Or some how that yellow jacket had nothing better to do then chase after someone and for fun attack.This is a problem you are right but not for all of us contactees or abductees.To many, think everything is out to get us instead of trying to just get to know it.If all you do is read men beat there wives or wives cheat on there husbands and then you just talk about this stuff all day read about it watch programs on tv about it.You will think all people are like this.As humans we have a lot of problems.But some do not think things that are different are not cool we do.


Well put.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Colma on Dec 16th, 2009, 08:32am

What somewhat scares me is that one of my friends has blonde hair and blue eyes, lol.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Dec 16th, 2009, 09:08am

on Dec 16th, 2009, 08:32am, Colma wrote:
What somewhat scares me is that one of my friends has blonde hair and blue eyes, lol.
Oh thats great Blond hair and blue eyes.Now that is all the proof anyone needs for there to be aliens.Expecially if you are a male looking at that Blond.smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 16th, 2009, 3:07pm

Adolf Hitler's Aryan race was also blond haired and blue-eyed. Shall we add this into the mix in the search for UFOs?


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Dec 16th, 2009, 5:19pm

on Dec 16th, 2009, 3:07pm, timetraveler wrote:
Adolf Hitler's Aryan race was also blond haired and blue-eyed. Shall we add this into the mix in the search for UFOs?


What do you think? Irwyn
I guess as long as it is natural blond .And not blond from a bottle.Unless it is a genie in a bottle.That would be considered alien.And ok.And years ago it was my favorite show.I often dreamed of Genie.LOL
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 20th, 2009, 11:20am

It so happens that in the ancient religious texts and Bibles unusual phenomenon or people were called Angels because the people at that time did not know how else to describe them. Even objects appearing in the skies in the Bible as brilliant shields were called Angels. The truth is that nobody can see an Angel in its true state of high energy with our ordinary five senses. You can only see or experience an Angel with the psychic third eye or in a vision or dream or in a trance state. Many times Angels project themselves as humans or appear in various shapes and forms. But these are only projections. Angels are from the fifth and sixth dimensions and their energy is such powerful electricity that it would electrocute anybody or anything in our three-dimensional physical world.

The messengers who came to various biblical figures to enlighten them or to warn them or to reassure them were merely projections designed as human appearing so as not to frighten the human contactees.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 21st, 2009, 1:27pm

I cannot understand your childish naivety regarding UFOs. Why do you keep comparing them to human beings and to the limitation of human beings? The following facts are in the records: Two commercial air lines pilots separately observed two different UfOs over the English channel at different times. One was the size of a football field and the other one was the size of two football fields. Both had a pink aura" and they both dematerialized while the pilots where watching them. Hundreds of people in Mexico City witnessed a UFO dematerialize in plain sight. The latest UFO information states that some eyewitness have been able to see UFOs in their camera viewers although they could not see them with their naked eyes. There are many reports of UFOs diving into and out of lakes and oceans. There are also reports of UFOs creating a massive blackout in the upstate Niagara New York region which affected millions of people but did not cause any injuries or deaths. We are dealing with other dimensional creatures who can manipulate and circumvent the physical laws of this planet. Please respect their uniqueness and special abilities and stop trying to compare them to us.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Dec 22nd, 2009, 2:57pm

Forgive me Orbit for my posting regarding comparing of UFOs and ET's with human beings. This was not intended for any particular posters but was rather directed at people who think that ET's and UFOs are a more advanced race of human beings. This is not so. I was also fascinated by your account of the football field size of the UFO that you have observed. I am a psychic so my perceptions of otherworldly beings are mostly not physical but rather projections and constructions of actually spirit and energy entities. If you read my book," Other Dimensions", you will recall that I had a flashback of visiting this planet 150,000 years ago as an energy ET being who was a genetics engineer from Orion and I came to this physical planet with a team of ET scientists to study the genetics of humanoids and human beings. Only recently have I understood the information from that scientific exploration which explains some of the mystery of genetics which exists today.

The psychiatrist Carl Jung claims that we have a collective racial memory which remembers people and things from the past. I can attest to the truth of that because I have met and recognize one of the scientists of our expedition of 150,000 years ago. His name today is Ingo Swann and he was one of the rogue scientists in our group who purposely supercharged one of our crystal devices and unbalanced the planet Earth and caused Exodus number three,[Atlantis], of life forms from this planet and betrayed me and other scientists, causing my death. In this life I was supposed to work with him and other scientists on a psychic mind project but I refused to work with him. I believe that he subsequently worked for the Department of Defense as a major contributor of Project "Stargate".

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on Jan 14th, 2010, 09:13am

on Dec 12th, 2009, 1:45pm, bonehead wrote:
I second that! Kindness to wasps! Priceless. wink





Sir, I think you are a gentleman and a scholar.

If everybody understood these universal truths, we would live on an enlightened planet. grin

Cheers!!

Bonehead


Well said, Boney! I could not agree more....
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 16th, 2010, 2:28pm

Psychic flash: the UFOs have completed Adam 2 project which involves extraction and harvesting of human sperm and eggs for the creation of the new hybrid human physical race. Therefore, after September 2010 there will be no more UFO abductions.
Also there will be an increase in UFO sightings in 2010 and some of them will involve UFOs,[USOs], diving into bodies of water such as the Gulf of Mexico and also emerging from these same bodies of water. [Persons who live near the Gulf of Mexico are advised to carry a camera at all times in an attempt to capture these rare occurrences.] The reason for this UFO activity is to enter the portals of connecting underseas tunnels in order to monitor submarine volcanoes activity to anticipate impending earthquakes, tsunamis and major catastrophies.
Recently there was a major earthquake with the epicenter being Port-au-Prince, Haiti. This location lies exactly on top of a "fault line".

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2010, 12:24pm

Information was received psychically by me that five of these crystal light devices which had been involved in the destruction of Atlantis had been secreted at different locations on the Earth by the Orion space scientists and would someday be found. One was buried in a stone crypt in the ruins of the Aztecs outside Mexico City, another underneath or near the great pyramid of Giza in Egypt, a third in one of the stone pyramids in Peru. Another machine was buried near the city of Tientsin in China and the last in the Antarctic in the, “Rainbow City”. When these devices are found the Earth will again be able to access the “unified energy field” of the universe.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Nodnunk on Jan 18th, 2010, 6:01pm

on Oct 3rd, 2009, 10:29am, cryptoufo wrote:
i think likethe movies. little grey aliens with big head and big black eyes


[Caution, what follows is speculation]
We humans are visually sensitive to the part of the electromagnetic spectrum where the radiation from the sun is a maximum. Apparently this was an evolutional adaptation.

http://www.rwc.uc.edu/koehler/biophys/6d.html

If the same evolutional adaptation is true for the grey aliens with big black eyes, one might then infer that their home sun is dimmer than our sun. Possibly it is a red dwarf star whose maximum radiation falls in (what we call) the infrared part of the spectrum.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 19th, 2010, 11:48am

The "greys" are "artificial constructions" and their big black "eyes"contain their brains,vision and perception devices. To understand them you have to go beyond human logic, scientific knowledge and quantum mechanics.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Jan 19th, 2010, 4:01pm

"The "greys" are "artificial constructions" and their big black "eyes"contain their brains,vision and perception devices. To understand them you have to go beyond human logic, scientific knowledge and quantum mechanics."


Hi Timetraveller;

I know the greys really well they are clones not artificial constructions, everytime they clone themselves they pass knowledge down to the next clone. They are made this way there brains are in there heads not there eyes, but they do know how to use energy waves more effeciently than the human construct does. This is why they are able to speak with us telepathically, and why they can manipulate your brain to make you forget your short term, but if you have the knowledge to reach your own long term memories they can not erase those.
They are no longer an orginal race because they have cloned themselves over and over that there is no original one of them left.

Always the one who watches over all Whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by timetraveler on Jan 31st, 2010, 10:14am

Here are some examples of learning to think like Angels:

1.The past, present and future all occur in the “now”, therefore you can never realize the state of “now” except by recall.
2.History cannot be changed but only experienced.
3.Angels and ET's can see the future and the past because they are written in the “ethers”. That is why ET's can enter into our world at their chosen time and place and Angels can respond to future events before they happen in our physical world.
4.Albert Einstein was struggling to understand Time as it exists in the universe. He did not realize that the speed of light is limited to the physical universe and not to nonphysical universes and that time is different in different worlds. Time travel is not possible physically, but it is possible psychically and mentally. Our human minds cannot comprehend other worlds that are nonphysical with our physical brain and mind, but we can comprehend an extended range of understanding with our psychic mind.
5.We see with our eyes and our five senses the physical projections and illusions that Angels, UFOs and ET's create and we accept them as physical realities. We have to learn not to trust our physical senses entirely and learn to develop our psychic perception more.
6.Science is wonderful at explaining the “what” but woefully lacking in explaining the “why” of things.


What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by rchrdrdr on Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:50am

Who am I to judge? But wow- do we ever have some interesting people on these forums saying the most interesting things! grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Lien on Mar 15th, 2010, 7:13pm

Pleadians/Andromedans/Sirians are all Lira/Lyra based Human like species (like ourselves). From what I understand ,they are the only thing stopping the Greys and Reptilians making our lives real havoc.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Mar 15th, 2010, 7:44pm

on Mar 15th, 2010, 7:13pm, Lien wrote:
Pleadians/Andromedans/Sirians are all Lira/Lyra based Human like species (like ourselves). From what I understand ,they are the only thing stopping the Greys and Reptilians making our lives real havoc.
So these beings like the Pleadians and Andromedans.Is this what they call themselves using our words like coming from Andromeda which is names we as humans made up.Or did we get those words from the beings.And they speak English on there planet.Just curios .
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by capri2 on Apr 12th, 2010, 02:54am

Given the way they drive and all the crashes they have they ARE DEFINITELY BLONDE. They most probably drink too.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ciknay547 on Apr 12th, 2010, 06:33am

rofl. those aliens are probably the only one that we catch.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Apr 27th, 2010, 6:47pm

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on May 10th, 2010, 3:24pm

I have a hunch that one group looks EXACTLY like us. In other words, we're their little colonization project.

Just stop to think about the Neanderthals. Humanoids were doing fine on this rock. One day Cro-Magnons showed up, and before too long the Neanderthals were extinct. Does that sound fishy to you?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on May 10th, 2010, 4:21pm

neandrithals never did go extinct they bred together to creat cromagnons, then the human form aliens arrived and bred with the cromagnons and thus we began the human race. We still have all that within us they never went extinct at all just out bred but there blood still runs through us all.

as always the one who watches over all Whitewolf
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on May 10th, 2010, 7:40pm

A Draft Sequence of the Neandertal Genome

Excerpt:

A challenge in detecting signals of gene flow between Neandertals and modern human ancestors is that the two groups share common ancestors within the last 500,000 years, which is no deeper than the nuclear DNA sequence variation within present-day humans. Thus, even if no gene flow occurred, in many segments of the genome, Neandertals are expected to be more closely related to some present-day humans than they are to each other (20). However, if Neandertals are, on average across many independent regions of the genome, more closely related to present-day humans in certain parts of the world than in others, this would strongly suggest that Neandertals exchanged parts of their genome with the ancestors of these groups.

Read the full article at: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/328/5979/710
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on May 10th, 2010, 8:58pm

So Luvey, what do you think of my image in relation to the standard Grey?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Luvey on May 10th, 2010, 11:55pm

on May 10th, 2010, 8:58pm, Icarus99 wrote:
So Luvey, what do you think of my image in relation to the standard Grey?


Hello Icarus smiley

I can't really comment on the greys as my experience was with a small tan coloured alien wearing a black robe. But something they seem to have in common is slits for lips and those bug eyes, with hardly any nose at all.

Luvey
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on May 11th, 2010, 2:30pm

on May 10th, 2010, 11:55pm, Luvey wrote:
Hello Icarus smiley

I can't really comment on the greys as my experience was with a small tan coloured alien wearing a black robe. But something they seem to have in common is slits for lips and those bug eyes, with hardly any nose at all.

Luvey
The one and only one I had seen in all of my experiences.I do believe due to the stresses of that time in my life for him to show himself to me in the white room.Leaning over the table on which I was being held down on.Not that he was holding me.I myself could just not move.He and why I think it was a he it was just a feeling I had.
He was also more of a tanish very almost unnoticable purple shin on the skin color.Black veins going threw the sides of his face and arms. The only reason I saw him at all was after looking at the light that was spinning up above me.Me being back down on the table almost as if to be made to look at the spinning multi color wheel to only blink the wheel be gone and then have my friend lean over from my right side look into my face .
At that time I had asked for a experience in a way.I had such a rough time in my life at the moment I had asked God while driving home threw the windsheild of my truck to take me home.I had enough of this life all the bad things that had happened to me.All the deaths I had seen of everything I loved.
Just enough that night the experience.When the being looked over into my eyes.He said nothing.What I got by the look was a feeling of sorrow .I then got the feeling he was feeling sorry for me feeling like I was.I then by looking in his eyes.Shaped like deer eyes more oblong, he was I am guessing at least over 5 feet tall.I now felt like I was a jerk making this being feel sorry for me.
It was like looking at a child that was sad, you feel sad for the child to feel this way.So was this experience of him to me.I now felt sorry for him feeling sorry for me. I have never regreted life after that day.
I feel lucky and like a big jerk for letting my little problems get me in such a bad state.Now even death for me is no big deal.I feel sorry for the loss but feel they truly are in a better place and it is just a matter of time I am there .Could be for a visit as long as I want then move on or stay with nothing as a end but a new beginning.
The only other time I had seen beings was at the bottom of my bed there were 2 but they were smaller and the room was darker But could only see the shapes and also could not move at the time.With this planet and I am sure others have said it.There is so many different forms of life like fish and birds and animals just on this planet.The life that is out there can be so much different the same and what ever one may think of is possible.
So much life billions of different life forms down here alone with the insects.Nothing or all things with intellgents needs to look human.But also does not mean that some may not look human also.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on May 13th, 2010, 03:19am

It's true that one scientific camp believes Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons bred, and account for the disappearance of the Neanderthals that way. The only problem with that theory is that Cro-Magnons do not appear to have altered since they first appeared, some 12,000 years before the Neanderthals disappeared.

That aside, has anybody heard that another group of scientists are now theorizing that we may not be related to Cro-Magnons either? Their theory, not mine, but they arrived at it because of a rather interesting fact. That our genome is one of the shortest on the planet. Has anybody else read about this? Interesting to say the least, and the implications are obvious.

I don't know about anybody else, but I can't wait until they take this one just a bit further.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on May 13th, 2010, 09:10am

on May 13th, 2010, 03:19am, icepick wrote:
It's true that one scientific camp believes Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons bred, and account for the disappearance of the Neanderthals that way. The only problem with that theory is that Cro-Magnons do not appear to have altered since they first appeared, some 12,000 years before the Neanderthals disappeared.

That aside, has anybody heard that another group of scientists are now theorizing that we may not be related to Cro-Magnons either? Their theory, not mine, but they arrived at it because of a rather interesting fact. That our genome is one of the shortest on the planet. Has anybody else read about this? Interesting to say the least, and the implications are obvious.

I don't know about anybody else, but I can't wait until they take this one just a bit further.


Ice,

Fascinating!! I too anxiously await more information on this topic smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on May 15th, 2010, 6:28pm

Yes, these issues that make absolutely zero scientific sense seem to be piling up these days for some reason. There doesn't appear to be any debunking available on a lot of them either.

It's just a guess on my part, but can anybody see a new area of research cropping up to deal with this type of issue? It would be tough to tackle some of them using standard procedures, but I'm not one to be happy with any half-baked answers.

Oh, Lien: are you referring to the Greys/Reptilian competition that dates from antiquity, or are you referring to the apparent interstellar explosions that have been observed by Hubble and the James Clerk Maxwell?

If it's the latter, do you have any linkage for it? I've not been able to find anything about it on the Joint Observatories web site, but that's not surprising. Those guys just hate to be the first to go on record with anything controversial, if you know what I mean.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Jun 26th, 2010, 6:10pm

Aliens could look like anything. They could look like a cloud of gas or a humanoid or a substance not on this planet.
The possibilities really are endless.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by ufo925 on Jul 16th, 2010, 2:19pm

I don't know specifically what they might look like, but I imagine it depends what their planet or where they are from is like. I imagine there are places with just animals, there are probably places with intelligent beings as well. If there is a God maybe he made different types of creatures places. I assume it all has to do with evolution though.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Jul 24th, 2010, 4:05pm

I'm just throwing out a theory here, someone else may have already had the exact same idea, but what if there are no 'preset' characteristics of an Alien species?
Maybe they're not like Earth species in that one species has distinguishing features? e.g. humans have two eyes, nose, mouth, neck, two arms, five digits etc.
Maybe an alien with huge ears and a coat of fur can be the offspring of an alien 12cm high with 30 eyes? (just an example, trying to get across my point) and still be a part of the same species?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Jul 24th, 2010, 9:25pm

on Jul 24th, 2010, 4:05pm, CA519705950 wrote:
I'm just throwing out a theory here, someone else may have already had the exact same idea, but what if there are no 'preset' characteristics of an Alien species?
Maybe they're not like Earth species in that one species has distinguishing features? e.g. humans have two eyes, nose, mouth, neck, two arms, five digits etc.
Maybe an alien with huge ears and a coat of fur can be the offspring of an alien 12cm high with 30 eyes? (just an example, trying to get across my point) and still be a part of the same species?
Yes you are right they can look like anything a human could imagine.There are so many planets all around up and down from us. From everything to colored what we have termed rocks and other things we have yet to see or name the species of things alien to us is endless.Even with almost 7 billion people on this planet all our imaginations does not come close to the planets everywhere never mind what may be on them. So there is nothing one human can say what is and what is not if we have not been there to see it.We take pictures with our satelites it may say there is water on this planet it may say there is this gas forming.But still all in all we know very little to nothing.This planet with all its peoples and animals could go away and the distant planets would not even know.Think of how many stars have burned out billions of years ago and we still see the light from them. If that star which has burned out now.All things around that had life as us is gone.Just as if our sun went out tomorrow we and all life down here would also be gone.Yes some would build something run some generators for a while but all our wood would be gone and the cold and darkness would do everything in.It has happened in the past .Probably happens all the time in the space around us,We have life in the sea that has 2 eyes on one side flounders.We have creatures that have no eyes at all worms and such. Bats have eyes but are almost blind and go by radar and look at the way they just zip by.And you have to ask yourself if the creature here on earth that groses you out.Whether it is a spider a mouse or snake or some other creature.This does not make it mean or bad.So when it comes to what we have termed aliens it is not what they look like that really is a issue it is how people react then tell the story that will either be from there own fear or no fear at all.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Jul 26th, 2010, 5:28pm

i had a dream once and in my dream aliens were humanoid tall and good looking,in my dream i was in a space ship, smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Jul 27th, 2010, 12:27pm

Can you tell a bit more about that dream?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Jul 27th, 2010, 12:27pm

on Jul 26th, 2010, 5:28pm, dm wrote:
i had a dream once and in my dream aliens were humanoid tall and good looking,in my dream i was in a space ship, smiley
I guess if one has the technology one might make some see things differently to handle a abduction and others see it another way.Both may not even be as the being really looks. Just us alone can make others appear older younger male or female with our technonlogy of make up now go ahead possible centurys.Look at being hypnotized to thinking you are a chicken so all is possible.But not everything has to be human looking to be alien.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Jul 27th, 2010, 4:03pm

Why shouldn't they look like a human or at least a humanoid?

We don't know how long they are already around here. They could look that way because of constant interbreeding with us. But I somehow doubt that this is the case in general.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Eragon on Jul 28th, 2010, 5:38pm

I always think that the aliens should have a human appearance. But what about those who look, for instance as a cluster of tissue? The universe is large (and it is still growing) and contains many galaxies... Most of us imagine a humanoid aliens who have higher intelligence and better technology. The last two are correct because of the fact that they came from another system makes them more advanced than us...

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Jul 29th, 2010, 11:25am

The interesting thing is that most if not all reports about alien encounters were about humanoid beings. As far as I know there was never a report about people encountering tentacle monsters or bloblike creatures etc.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Jul 30th, 2010, 4:28pm

on Jul 26th, 2010, 5:28pm, dm wrote:
i had a dream once and in my dream aliens were humanoid tall and good looking,in my dream i was in a space ship, smiley

That sounds like an interesting dream dm, care to tell us some more?
Humanoids are quite often described as being tall and/or good looking smiley. Well, not sure if this is still true today, but there are quite a few cases in which humanoids are described as tall and/or good looking.

on Jul 27th, 2010, 4:03pm, philliman wrote:
Why shouldn't they look like a human or at least a humanoid?

We don't know how long they are already around here. They could look that way because of constant interbreeding with us. But I somehow doubt that this is the case in general.

I totally agree philliman. One thing I've heard thrown around frequently on various sites, in various books, on TV here and there, from people at school etc is "why is it that all aliens are said to have human characteristics?".
While I do believe that they could look like anything - it just seems logical to me, aliens out there could have any old physical appearence - there is no reason at all as to why they can't be humanoids, even if it's just one 'species'.
I suppose there's some debate to this but humans are pretty successful as a species. Our physical appearence and high intelligence puts us near the top of the food chain. We're not built for fighting or running or swimming, but we use tools and hold other species back with these tools. It would make sense in a way that an alien species would have a human-esque physical appearence if they really are an 'advanced' race, with incredible technology and the like.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by immortalundercover on Jul 30th, 2010, 6:59pm

water=evolved dolphine humannoid race..THE Reptillien
land= the evolved primate..humans
insect= The evolved wasp race..The triangle aliens.
birds= evolved owl race..extinct
mermaids who are the birth co partners of the dolphine race of the reptilliens.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by copper5661 on Jul 31st, 2010, 12:20am

With supposedly 57 different type of aliens that our government have supposedly been involved with, I don't have a clue.

But I do believe that contact has already been made.

So I think that greys, nordics, reptilians, are probably accurate because they already has been sighted and documented from all over the world.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 4th, 2010, 06:39am

in my dream i just remember being on some sort of table that came out of the wall and that i was in a britly lit room and the room was round and there were tables coming out of the wall all around the room, then 3 i think tall men came to me and i got scared,cos in my dream i was thinking omg im abducted, anyway at the time i was real in to a religion i was in and they always told me to shout out gods name if i got scared so i did in my dream and i woke up in my bed thin king how weird was that, any ways if they were aliens and it was all real then why was they scared of god so much, i think im just messed up in the head and dream to much crap,but i must admit and i cant ever denie it i have seen a ufo close by and i got very scared thats in another post i put on so i dont know, but i honestly think i was only dreaming,but every ones right i think aliens would look all diff , cos of the kind of world they would have came from, but i think the way we are as humans we are quite perfect in every way, the way our whole body works our eyes senses everything, i think if we were to use the whole of our brain live alot longer wed be super brainy and thats what i think the aliens are,and for some reason our bodys arnt working right and stop at a point grow old and die, for some reason we have a cut off point and if we could change that wed live for ever,i think aliens dont have that cut off point, thats why they can travel so far and thats why i think they may be more humanoid i think maybe the grays are like slaves or somthing of theres that theyve made to help them,i think we have a better body and ability to do alot more, than a simple looking gray could do, we need to stop the cut off point.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Aug 4th, 2010, 11:33am

on Aug 4th, 2010, 06:39am, dm wrote:
in my dream i just remember being on some sort of table that came out of the wall and that i was in a britly lit room and the room was round and there were tables coming out of the wall all around the room, then 3 i think tall men came to me and i got scared,cos in my dream i was thinking omg im abducted, anyway at the time i was real in to a religion i was in and they always told me to shout out gods name if i got scared so i did in my dream and i woke up in my bed thin king how weird was that, any ways if they were aliens and it was all real then why was they scared of god so much, i think im just messed up in the head and dream to much crap,but i must admit and i cant ever denie it i have seen a ufo close by and i got very scared thats in another post i put on so i dont know, but i honestly think i was only dreaming,but every ones right i think aliens would look all diff , cos of the kind of world they would have came from, but i think the way we are as humans we are quite perfect in every way, the way our whole body works our eyes senses everything, i think if we were to use the whole of our brain live alot longer wed be super brainy and thats what i think the aliens are,and for some reason our bodys arnt working right and stop at a point grow old and die, for some reason we have a cut off point and if we could change that wed live for ever,i think aliens dont have that cut off point, thats why they can travel so far and thats why i think they may be more humanoid i think maybe the grays are like slaves or somthing of theres that theyve made to help them,i think we have a better body and ability to do alot more, than a simple looking gray could do, we need to stop the cut off point.

dm;
That does sound like a pretty scary dream. I've always wondered why, with a lot of abduction stories or abduction dreams, the room is brightly lit... I have a book upstairs on Alien Abduction by Jenny Randles but I'm not reading too much at the moment.
The God-part is interesting. Do you remember if they were actually scared of God (or God's name) or if your dream just ended when you shouted out? Also, could you link me to the UFO post or perhaps summarise your experience? I'd like to know more smiley.
If you genuinely feel that you're "messed up in the head" then it might be best to consult a psychiatrist just to certify whether or not you're okay. I don't mean to sound patronising or cruel, and I'm certainly no psychologist, but it's something I would do if I felt that I might not be quite right in the head.
But UFO/Alien dreams probably aren't all that uncommon - particularly if you read into these kind of things. I've noticed that since I've been spending time on the UFO Casebook forums, I've been having UFO-related dreams... particularly when I lie there thinking about them at night.
Haha yes, the human body is an amazing thing smiley So complex and finely tuned... if only nature would stop us from liking fatty foods and the smell of petrol so much wink. Well from what I can gather, the only reason we die is because our organs grow old and stop working... or because they're damaged in an accident etc. If we found a way to make our body almost indestructible and stop our body from ageing, then I suppose we could live 'forever', or for a particularly long time.
Perhaps death isn't a part of some ET's life cycle? Or if it is, maybe they live for a longer time. Compare the average human lifespan of 80 years to the 1 day lifespan of some insects - there's a pretty huge difference. Who knows, on other planets, maybe they can live for thousands of earth years? smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 4th, 2010, 12:45pm

i dont think im messed up in head in a mental way, i mean got loads of crap in it from all the stuff i read watch and hear,so my dreams are weird,i am a very groundeed person just like to look into alot of stuff and i think we have to be careful that we dont get drawn in to alot of the crap we read. but i like to tell my story weather real or dream as people are interested and they make there own minds up to what it is as for me i dont think iv been abducted i think im dreaming,as to the shouting out gods name i shouted it in my dream wether i shouted it out loud and it woke me or they were scared i do not know i do think its all a dream,
this is my experience over the years,my ufo story is on the ufo uk sitings page i think cant rem il have to go look.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Aug 4th, 2010, 1:38pm

on Aug 4th, 2010, 11:33am, CA519705950 wrote:
I've always wondered why, with a lot of abduction stories or abduction dreams, the room is brightly lit...

Really? In those stories I use to hear the rooms are rather dimly lit. It seems that the Greys prefer it that way.

@dm
So those were men? How did they looked like and what kind of clothes did they wear? Were they scared as you've mentioned God's name? What kind of reaction did they display?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 4th, 2010, 1:52pm

i do not know wether they were scared or not i just woke up,also they had long garments on like robes i think i cant rem it was ages ago, dont want to make sumat up as iv since seen stuff and might mislead myself by trying to rem what they wore or what ever, just rem for some reason bits and that recalling that i thought they were tall and good looking.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 4th, 2010, 1:55pm

also in my dream there were no grays so if its all true perhaps the tall once like it well lit lol.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Aug 4th, 2010, 2:15pm

So I assume that they were tall blonds?

If they are somewhat human I can imagine that they also do prefer it brightly lit as we use to do when we got to examine something.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Aug 4th, 2010, 4:29pm

on Aug 4th, 2010, 1:38pm, philliman wrote:
Really? In those stories I use to hear the rooms are rather dimly lit. It seems that the Greys prefer it that way.

@phil: Depends on what you read I guess. Can't say I've read a whole lot into abduction as I said earlier, but I've heard about brightly lit rooms more than once - though not with Greys.

@dm: Oh yeah I remember this now - "tall and good looking" I remember from another thread. Do you know if they were going to cause any pain or not? Did you feel that their intentions were good or bad?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 5th, 2010, 03:46am

rem it was just a dream,anyway in it i felt afraid but nothing was being done to me, i was just laying on a slab,bed bench thing coming out of wall, in my dream i new i was in a space ship and they were alien and that scared me but that was when i was younger, i wont be scared now if it was real ,id be asking questions im alot stronger willed now may be if i was being abducted which i wasnt they prob wouldnt now cos im not as weak minded as i was then. older wiser,i felt like thye wernt suposed to be there and they shouldnt have me and i was protected for some reason,anyway weird dream and thats all it was
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by CA519705950 on Aug 5th, 2010, 5:41pm

Ah okay, thanks for expanding dm!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dm on Aug 6th, 2010, 09:42am

heres me saying nope not abducted , its all in my head but when i said id got a bruse on my arm at top other day with prick mark well not to sound like i believe it but now iv noticed it has a triangle in it like skin colour in middle of the bruse , if this is all in my head and all the marks i get and dreams are to and iv just got a vivid imagination then same could be said of everyone else who thinks they are abducted,
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Aug 7th, 2010, 08:42am

If you can be sure about that this mark wasn't there as you went to bed.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by NikolaSerbia on Sep 11th, 2010, 08:59am

Well,because there is just so many species of aliens,we'll never know how all aliens are looking.If we guess that in every galaxy had a minimum 50 to 70(or even more) different species of aliens then that's a lot of species...And if we suggest that,they all look different then it's almost impossibly to us to know how they all look like...It's a complicated but isn't? smiley
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Cebrakon on Sep 21st, 2010, 4:30pm

on Sep 11th, 2010, 08:59am, NikolaSerbia wrote:
Well,because there is just so many species of aliens,we'll never know how all aliens are looking.If we guess that in every galaxy had a minimum 50 to 70(or even more) different species of aliens then that's a lot of species...And if we suggest that,they all look different then it's almost impossibly to us to know how they all look like...It's a complicated but isn't? smiley


I guess our galaxy suffers from overpopulation if only 3% of it has 700 intelligent and spacefaring civilizations lol.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Sep 22nd, 2010, 06:49am

on Sep 21st, 2010, 4:30pm, Cebrakon wrote:
I guess our galaxy suffers from overpopulation if only 3% of it has 700 intelligent and spacefaring civilizations lol.
When one thinks of the planets above only seeing a very small fraction of the possibilitys of life there may be out there.It does not take much of a imagination going by what we know to be some forms of life that other then the word alien are around us down here right now.When one thinks of all the animals and fish and insects just our own world has its more then one can imagine whats out there away from us.If I was from another world in the galaxy and was to come down here.Never see a human but only saw a bird or a bear this would be alien to me.I not knowing what to think of these life forms would try to communicate talking to the bear the bird .This would be aliens to me.If a animal was to come to me for curiousity I would then think when heading back to my planet telling everyone this alien I met apeared friendly came over to me .I was trying to communicate but the language is so different it only grunted at me.But definatly worth going back and investigating. As humans we are in a box we treat animals that are pets like humans think of them as children.So now many want to compare aliens as just more advanced humans .Not more advanced animals. Humans create stories of Gods of doom and gloom heaven and hell . Hopefully one day all our curousitys will be answered. Because as just a dumb human myself it would be nice to know what really is and is not.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by whitewolf on Sep 24th, 2010, 2:27pm

Did you know that the mosquito did not originate on our planet it was brought here by the greys, from another planet, they thought it was the easiest way to gather dna from the animals of this planet. Now we can't get ride of them and they spawn way to fast lol. So if you hate the mosquito then you can blame them for bringing them to our world.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Erno on Oct 27th, 2010, 2:52pm

I believe some space aliens wear helmet protection while investigating our planet. Places like Calvert Cliffs in southern Maryland on the Western Shore, on the Chesapeake Bay where the aliens can hunt for fossil whale bones and sharks teeth, etc,from the Miocene Age [their is only three places in the world like that] for their kids back on their home planet.
The helmet is an upside down U-shaped, where the sunlight can reflect off his helmet. Two big dark round eye shaped optics below his forehead [ 2" to 3" in diameter], a long 4" nose with 1" vertical slit coming up from the bottom of the being's nose[This could be a breathing hole for his helmet;] and a smile similar to a Zen Buddist who has just achieved the state of Satori. The rest of his body was hidden behind a fossil boulder except for one of his legs and foot. Estimate average human adult height.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by erikhegland on Dec 13th, 2010, 05:52am

on Oct 19th, 2002, 6:43pm, rob wrote:
My opinion on this is that they will look very similar to us. However, goblin79 has just about said it. With all the planets out there, there must be a massive variety. If you want to know the reason I think they`ll look like us, go to alien legacy.


I think the aliens look like us and the reason for that might be the same chemicals and cells processes that enabled humans to form should be similar to that of an alien. They probably have the same chemicals our planet has. Or maybe not.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by glphil on Jan 18th, 2011, 8:16pm

Can't claim coming up with this, but it sure seems to make SENSE to me. I like to think I'm rather enlightened on these subjects having been interested and reading and following since the early sixties as a youngster. AND I only wear my tin foil helmet around the full moon... Anyways, the greys are possibly engineered biological entities. Think about it... they're a "stripped down" form of life... Devoid of hair, eyelids and other possibly non necessary 'parts' for life support. If technology was far enough advanced it might seem sending sentient life to explore would be more adaptable etc than robot or cyborgs or what have you. Also considering the time necessary to travel the distances, living creatures would make sense also if the distances ruled out the possibility of communication or communication of a time interval relevant to problems at hand. Just some thoughts I had heard before and made sense to me! We also have heard of others "Nordics" that probably are directly related to us. My OPINION is that we are the Martians, and thru stupidity, ruined our original home and ended up blasting ourselves back to the caveman technology. Reading material by people like Michael Cremo and others there is plenty of evidence around that there has been technologically advanced civilizations on Terra and it is becoming quite apparent on Mars possibly millions of years ago! Just something to think about!!!
Peace from seattle!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by spacechild on Jan 19th, 2011, 06:53am

on Jan 18th, 2011, 8:16pm, glphil wrote:
Can't claim coming up with this, but it sure seems to make SENSE to me. I like to think I'm rather enlightened on these subjects having been interested and reading and following since the early sixties as a youngster. AND I only wear my tin foil helmet around the full moon... Anyways, the greys are possibly engineered biological entities. Think about it... they're a "stripped down" form of life... Devoid of hair, eyelids and other possibly non necessary 'parts' for life support. If technology was far enough advanced it might seem sending sentient life to explore would be more adaptable etc than robot or cyborgs or what have you. Also considering the time necessary to travel the distances, living creatures would make sense also if the distances ruled out the possibility of communication or communication of a time interval relevant to problems at hand. Just some thoughts I had heard before and made sense to me! We also have heard of others "Nordics" that probably are directly related to us. My OPINION is that we are the Martians, and thru stupidity, ruined our original home and ended up blasting ourselves back to the caveman technology. Reading material by people like Michael Cremo and others there is plenty of evidence around that there has been technologically advanced civilizations on Terra and it is becoming quite apparent on Mars possibly millions of years ago! Just something to think about!!!
Peace from seattle!
Anything is possible giving the size of the universe and all things that are up there.There is all types of animals that have no hair even down here no eye brows and such .But that does not mean what you may be thinking of the beings the grays is not possible.There has been much said by other humans that the grays have no compassion.Is this true.then you have to decide what the definition of compassion is.I myself have had some experances with what people call grays and I found compassion with them.But others depending on how they feel of what is going on at the time with them think they are being kidnapped and tortured taken from there homes with nothing to say about it.But not all of us feel this way.I am 54 years old and still consider myself a child when thinking of how little I really know.If my mother took me for a surprize to Disney land I would be shocked at all the wonders there as a child.So is this for me and others with the experience of nothing like we can imagine being taken and brought back by beings so different looking then us .It is a adventure one and most only imagine.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by probe on Feb 4th, 2011, 11:38pm

There is some talk of USOs here on Casebook, wondering what people may speculate the inhabitants of USOs in particular to look like? Is it known what species might use these?

There is also speculation that there may be underwater alien bases/cities. Have they adapted to life underwater, or are they able to through technology?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Seeker on Feb 5th, 2011, 08:35am

When my late husband and I journeyed to Peru in 1987 we were priviledged to speak with a genuine Incan Shaman as well as numerous high mountain people of the Andes. They are as honest as the day is long, and their stories all reference a race of E.T.'s who pilot crafts that flit around the ice peaks with ease and which also go in and out of Lake Titicaca. They say the beings who pilot these craft look like you and me, so I do not think they have adapted to aquatic life, but rather have the technology to built life support edifices that allow them to live in and/or beneath the water. It makes sense to me that there are so many stories of bases beneath the ocean. What better place to hide such things when you don't want probing eyes observing your coming and going? The commonly accepted reason for their presence in the Andes of Peru is that they are geologists studying the area and perhaps mining for a particular element, but some locals have spoken of the people from the stars as being primarily interested in conveying spiritual truth, with geological research nothing but a secondary interest. Hard to say for sure.

Although I saw many definitive UFO's (both day and night sightings) while in the Andes, I was not privileged to come face to face with the E.T. presence there.... unless I did so without being aware of it...!! wink Many of the locals say that because they look just like us, they walk among us undetected. This is a departure from all the talk you hear of the ubiquitous grays, a race I have no personal experience with.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Feb 24th, 2011, 12:43pm

My question is why do they look so much like us....?
Is it a universal anthropic driven thing , are we their genetic product, or is there another factor involved?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Mar 21st, 2011, 1:26pm

Who knows?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Mar 22nd, 2011, 4:42pm

on Mar 21st, 2011, 1:26pm, LEVIATHAN wrote:
Who knows?


I thought if anyone knew, the great LEVIATHAN would.



grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Mar 26th, 2011, 4:24pm

We really do, but do not wish to scare any one. Basically they look exactly as you wish them to look from Demons to small pilots of crashing ships. You see as long as they gain their needs, your perception of them will remain your own concoction.
L E V I A T H A N
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 16th, 2011, 5:33pm

I come at the end of a long conversation, so please bear with me here smiley

As we are all probably aware of by now, life exists beyond this planet and i find it very sad when people laugh or roll their eyes at the very mention of it.

The pleadians, working alongside Billy Meier, who has been mentally crucified throughout his life, exposing the truth, are as alike as we are to each other. Why? Because we all either have the same DNA or its slightly altered, due to genetic manipulation over the hundreds of centuries. As do other races living beyond our planetary boundaries. Dark skinned race (africans) originally came from Syria. Caucasians from Lyria (as are the pleadians). Yellow skinned (far eastern races) have an unknown origin, even to the pleadians; so its logical to logically assume that it doesnt make them currently the earth's oldest race/culture - the native americans are.
The pleadians have long known Charles Darwins ape theory to be 'nonsense'. The very first time i heard of it and my gut told me the same. Evolution didnt change our different earthly races - genetic manipulation/experimentation and races from other galaxies altogether, is the reason for such such differences. Just an interesting coincidence that we all seem to be physically alike, eh?

According to the pleadians, there are 7 species of humans living on earth; underground or in the major mountain rangers. there are blue people in india and billy witnessed himself. there is a hideout in the rockies and to my knowledge (they may have moved by now), there are underwater pleadian stations in random areas.

Greys are an interesting and yet very exhausted topic, as 'conspiracy' alarm bells go off at the first mention. The pleadians have mentioned that the greys are deeply involved with the US government, which will never publicly announce it, as it would destroy crowd control and cause mass panic.
Philipe Schneider (Area 51 engineer) had a near fatal encounter with them and his experiences made public, sadly cost him his life.

People always ask "why dont they just land and prove who they are to us?"
The answer is given: mass panic, misunderstandings due to the media and movies, closed mindedness (summarises previous statement).
They will only offically land for us, once we are far more open minded, more spiritually aware and not so closely controlled and dictated by the powers-that-be.
As for the portraits of the personally known pleadians (Semjase, Asket, Ptaah, Quetzal and Sfath), if we cannot accept this for the mean time as 'proof', then we are not ready to physically meet them.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dave54 on Apr 16th, 2011, 10:29pm

on Oct 6th, 2002, 12:29pm, goblin79 wrote:
...and if they are an infinite
number of inhabited planets in our universe, which
that is what I believe, by the grace of God, then
the number of different type of aliens or visitors
could be staggering.


There is not an infinite number of planets. The number is finite. It is a very large number, but not infinity.

The aliens can live in an atmosphere with ~18% oxygen and on a planet with liquid water, and stand upright on the surface. That means they evolved on a planet similar to earth -- rocky, approximately the same mass, in the zone from their sun where liquid water exists, and a similar atmosphere. There are currently around 300(?) confirmed planets. I am certain there are many many more, but only ~300 have been found so far.

Of those found, not one meets the criteria. Lots of gas giants, or rocky planets either too close or two far away from their sun for liquid water, but none that fit the needs of a humanoid. There most likely are several earth like planets out there, if not tens of thousands. But not one has been found so far that suggests a biological evolution of a humanoid.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 17th, 2011, 10:21am

on Apr 16th, 2011, 10:29pm, dave54 wrote:
There is not an infinite number of planets. The number is finite. It is a very large number, but not infinity.

The aliens can live in an atmosphere with ~18% oxygen and on a planet with liquid water, and stand upright on the surface. That means they evolved on a planet similar to earth -- rocky, approximately the same mass, in the zone from their sun where liquid water exists, and a similar atmosphere. There are currently around 300(?) confirmed planets. I am certain there are many many more, but only ~300 have been found so far.

Of those found, not one meets the criteria. Lots of gas giants, or rocky planets either too close or two far away from their sun for liquid water, but none that fit the needs of a humanoid. There most likely are several earth like planets out there, if not tens of thousands. But not one has been found so far that suggests a biological evolution of a humanoid.


Creation is forever creating within herself, so 'infinite' would be fair to say. We havent personally visited every planet. Im sure the pleadians havent either.

There are surely hundreds of different galaxies out there (30 are known), so therefore there would be millions of stars, which would mean billions of planets, which would mean billions of races.

Not all planets are made of gas.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by dave54 on Apr 17th, 2011, 1:34pm

on Apr 17th, 2011, 10:21am, cbachinger wrote:
Creation is forever creating within herself, so 'infinite' would be fair to say. We havent personally visited every planet. Im sure the pleadians havent either.

There are surely hundreds of different galaxies out there (30 are known), so therefore there would be millions of stars, which would mean billions of planets, which would mean billions of races.

Not all planets are made of gas.


You are incorrect. There is not an infinite number of planets. If there were, the universe would have infinite mass and there would be infinite gravity. Neither is true as it is an impossibility. I am speaking of the mathematical definition of infinity, not the poetic.

Do not make the false assumption all planets have developed sentient life. In our own solar system only one planet has. There may be non-sentient life elsewhere in our system system, but that is still only speculation. We can say with near certainty there is no other sentient life in our solar system than ourselves.

Evolutionary biologists universally agree humans are the most incredible accident. By all odds we should have never evolved on this planet. It required an unlikely alignment of a number of improbable events in the proper sequence. If any of the thousands of factors that shaped our evolution varied even a small amount, in all likelihood we would have not become our humanoid shape or possibly never develop sentience. Given the incredibly large number of planets (a finite number, not infinite) a poisson probability distribution suggests there are many other planets that evolved sentient life, and an even larger number with non-sentient life. But not an infinite number. Of the sentient life, a much smaller subset would be a generally similar humanoid shape and capable of living in our oxygen atmosphere without a life support system.

Lets suppose a percentage of planets will develop life. Not 100%, but a sizable fraction. Only a percentage of those will over time develop sentience. A still smaller fraction will develop sentience on a planet with liquid water and an oxygen atmosphere with gravity similar to earth and evolve to a humanoid shape, and smaller percentage than that will have developed technology capable of interstellar travel, and then to have found us and come to visit. No one yet has crunched all the numbers to estimate the final product, mostly because the numeric value of the various factors are debatable. But it is safe to assume the final product is much smaller than most people believe. It is not zero, but not in the billions either.


BTW -- I already noted most of the extra-solar planets discovered are gas giants, but not all. IIRC a few are believed to be rocky, but none within the Goldilocks zone of their host star. There most likely are many, but we have not found any yet.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by realitybeyond on Apr 17th, 2011, 1:43pm

Aliens are more beautiful than us.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 18th, 2011, 2:55pm

on Mar 26th, 2011, 4:24pm, LEVIATHAN wrote:
We really do, but do not wish to scare any one. Basically they look exactly as you wish them to look from Demons to small pilots of crashing ships. You see as long as they gain their needs, your perception of them will remain your own concoction.
L E V I A T H A N


Concoction sounds like a drink.......but I agree that the form 'they' take, at least in some of the encounters, might be dependent upon our own consciousness.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 18th, 2011, 2:57pm

on Apr 17th, 2011, 1:43pm, realitybeyond wrote:
Aliens are more beautiful than us.


Uh...is that inner or outer beauty?

grin
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 18th, 2011, 7:58pm

on Feb 24th, 2011, 12:43pm, drwu23 wrote:
My question is why do they look so much like us....?
Is it a universal anthropic driven thing , are we their genetic product, or is there another factor involved?


It is my guess that there is a definite reason for ET looking so much like the humanoids on this planet. To start with, might it not have something to do with the particular ETs coming to this planet? And probably something to do with the way we got to this rock as well?

There has to be at least one solid reason as to why we fail to snap neatly into this ecosystem we live in doesn't there? We come so close to miss it by so far ........... doesn't that strike you as being a little on the odd side?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 19th, 2011, 4:01pm

on Apr 18th, 2011, 7:58pm, icepick wrote:
It is my guess that there is a definite reason for ET looking so much like the humanoids on this planet. To start with, might it not have something to do with the particular ETs coming to this planet? And probably something to do with the way we got to this rock as well?

There has to be at least one solid reason as to why we fail to snap neatly into this ecosystem we live in doesn't there? We come so close to miss it by so far ........... doesn't that strike you as being a little on the odd side?


Actually no;...I have no major problem with evolution as it is currently proposed (there are weak areas but I think in time we will figure them out), nor do I see a compelling reason to think 'aliens' had anything to do with our develpoment via some form of genetic enhancement which might explain why we look like them.
It is not unlikely that 'humanoid bipeds' might evolve on other worlds but it is very unlikely they would look very much like us down to blond hair and blue eyes like the alleged Nordics. This is fantasy imo or there is some other more bizarre reason for this.
IMO some people need or want to believe such things because it fits their personal paradigm.
Where are all the space alens that look like Predator or any other ugly alien? Why do they all have 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs, etc ...? Only the reported 'greys' look significantly different from us and they look like us in embryonic/fetal form. What's up here..?

There simply isn't any actual evidence to support any of these claims. So shouldn't we be true skeptics on this and other similar issues rather than jump down the rabbit hole ?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by wingmaker41 on Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:26am

Aliens tend to divide into two groups, one made up of solid contrivances and the other of nebulous or cloudlike units.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jamesw on Apr 25th, 2011, 03:41am

Well I have been into this for a couple of years now and have done my fair bit of research on species.

The Greys tend to be the more commonly known species, greyish colour/greenish grey colour and other variety of colours, be from 4 ft to 6ft tall. Slanted black eyes, slits for nose and mouth, bigger head than body, more intelligent than humans, a slave race and it has been official that there is a minimum of 12 species of Greys. One of the rarest Grey is known as the Mantis Grey and looks bit of a mantis but more like an elder.

There is also the Reptillian Race which are more of a royalty species and the more hostile species. They are said to be the leaders of the Greys and it is said that some of them are already on earth. One of the species of these are called Dracos and the Lizardman of Orc Swamp is rumoured that it could be a species of these Reptillian aliens.

There are so many more including the Nordic which are more human like and a goblin like alien race which attacked a family and farmhouse in Kentucky.


James Whittaker
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 25th, 2011, 1:10pm

on Apr 25th, 2011, 03:41am, jamesw wrote:
Well I have been into this for a couple of years now and have done my fair bit of research on species.

The Greys tend to be the more commonly known species, greyish colour/greenish grey colour and other variety of colours, be from 4 ft to 6ft tall. Slanted black eyes, slits for nose and mouth, bigger head than body, more intelligent than humans, a slave race and it has been official that there is a minimum of 12 species of Greys. One of the rarest Grey is known as the Mantis Grey and looks bit of a mantis but more like an elder.

There is also the Reptillian Race which are more of a royalty species and the more hostile species. They are said to be the leaders of the Greys and it is said that some of them are already on earth. One of the species of these are called Dracos and the Lizardman of Orc Swamp is rumoured that it could be a species of these Reptillian aliens.

There are so many more including the Nordic which are more human like and a goblin like alien race which attacked a family and farmhouse in Kentucky.


James Whittaker


A couple of years..? I have been exploring this bizarre phenom since 1970. And I'm still learning interesting things.

But just look at the odds here. You mentioned multiple alien species above. How likely is it that one space faring species found their way here let alone 3 or 4 or 57 like some ufo believers want to think..? Is that plausible ? And why would advanced beings want to harass some rural family in Kentucky....or do any of the other bizarre junk that has been reported that is seemingly outside the character of an intelligent advanced being?
And then the ETH crowd will play their 'alien card' and say, "well, they are aliens after all...."
Really? That answers these bizarre high strangeness events that at times seem more like the occult and paranormal ....?

huh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by jamesw on Apr 25th, 2011, 1:20pm

I'm young, I'm 20 years and sure will get to learn plenty more but just briefly letting you know what I have read and heard.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Apr 25th, 2011, 2:04pm

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Dil Pickle, "What aliens"?
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by philliman on Apr 26th, 2011, 2:04pm

LoL! Nice pic.

on Apr 25th, 2011, 1:20pm, jamesw wrote:
I'm young, I'm 20 years and sure will get to learn plenty more but just briefly letting you know what I have read and heard.

Hello and welcome, James. Then you will also have to learn to not believe anything you may find online but rather question the validity of certainy types of info and their source. Because unfortunately there's just too much dis- and misinfo out there.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Apr 26th, 2011, 6:01pm

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Here, here.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 26th, 2011, 6:13pm

on Apr 17th, 2011, 1:34pm, dave54 wrote:
You are incorrect. There is not an infinite number of planets. If there were, the universe would have infinite mass and there would be infinite gravity. Neither is true as it is an impossibility. I am speaking of the mathematical definition of infinity, not the poetic.

Do not make the false assumption all planets have developed sentient life. In our own solar system only one planet has. There may be non-sentient life elsewhere in our system system, but that is still only speculation. We can say with near certainty there is no other sentient life in our solar system than ourselves.

Evolutionary biologists universally agree humans are the most incredible accident. By all odds we should have never evolved on this planet. It required an unlikely alignment of a number of improbable events in the proper sequence. If any of the thousands of factors that shaped our evolution varied even a small amount, in all likelihood we would have not become our humanoid shape or possibly never develop sentience. Given the incredibly large number of planets (a finite number, not infinite) a poisson probability distribution suggests there are many other planets that evolved sentient life, and an even larger number with non-sentient life. But not an infinite number. Of the sentient life, a much smaller subset would be a generally similar humanoid shape and capable of living in our oxygen atmosphere without a life support system.

Lets suppose a percentage of planets will develop life. Not 100%, but a sizable fraction. Only a percentage of those will over time develop sentience. A still smaller fraction will develop sentience on a planet with liquid water and an oxygen atmosphere with gravity similar to earth and evolve to a humanoid shape, and smaller percentage than that will have developed technology capable of interstellar travel, and then to have found us and come to visit. No one yet has crunched all the numbers to estimate the final product, mostly because the numeric value of the various factors are debatable. But it is safe to assume the final product is much smaller than most people believe. It is not zero, but not in the billions either.


BTW -- I already noted most of the extra-solar planets discovered are gas giants, but not all. IIRC a few are believed to be rocky, but none within the Goldilocks zone of their host star. There most likely are many, but we have not found any yet.


Like i said, Creation is forever creating more and more bodies and we have yet to discover those systems, that ETs have already seen. So in our eyes, 'infinite' is actually possible. Creations never stops growing. can we count ALL the material universal bodies? No. therefore, infinite. Mass is a part of creation that is continuously growing and recreating and gravity is created and grows with it, in order to form universal bodies.

I dont assume that all planets have sentient life, as many new planets are either too young in evolution or have no life at all. And true, earth is the only planet in the solar system that has life.

Why would we be an accidental evolution on Earth? Its Creation's plan that life evolves itself in its own time and intelligent life (us) starts to evolve.

The final product?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 26th, 2011, 6:37pm

on Apr 18th, 2011, 7:58pm, icepick wrote:
It is my guess that there is a definite reason for ET looking so much like the humanoids on this planet. To start with, might it not have something to do with the particular ETs coming to this planet? And probably something to do with the way we got to this rock as well?

There has to be at least one solid reason as to why we fail to snap neatly into this ecosystem we live in doesn't there? We come so close to miss it by so far ........... doesn't that strike you as being a little on the odd side?


Correct! reason why we look very alike to certain ETs, is because we share the same ancestory and therefore similar DNA. Only major difference is that our intelligence level is much much lower compared to theirs.

When reading the true chronology of the planet, we quickly learn that the planet has been visited as far back as 200 million years by the Lyrians - the pleadians ancestors and our ancient ancestors.

We fail to snap into the ecosystem because we violate nature, fail to respect its workings and refuse to correct our irresponsible ways.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 26th, 2011, 6:41pm

on Apr 19th, 2011, 4:01pm, drwu23 wrote:
Actually no;...I have no major problem with evolution as it is currently proposed (there are weak areas but I think in time we will figure them out), nor do I see a compelling reason to think 'aliens' had anything to do with our develpoment via some form of genetic enhancement which might explain why we look like them.
It is not unlikely that 'humanoid bipeds' might evolve on other worlds but it is very unlikely they would look very much like us down to blond hair and blue eyes like the alleged Nordics. This is fantasy imo or there is some other more bizarre reason for this.
IMO some people need or want to believe such things because it fits their personal paradigm.
Where are all the space alens that look like Predator or any other ugly alien? Why do they all have 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs, etc ...? Only the reported 'greys' look significantly different from us and they look like us in embryonic/fetal form. What's up here..?

There simply isn't any actual evidence to support any of these claims. So shouldn't we be true skeptics on this and other similar issues rather than jump down the rabbit hole ?


I doubt we would want to see aliens that are like the predator right now. we would freak out and have a panic attack or something. then the guns would come out and fire away!

If/when we one day came across a race that looked like that, we wouldnt last long, as that race would evidently be more superior and we would be enslaved/killed off.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 26th, 2011, 7:42pm

on Apr 26th, 2011, 6:37pm, cbachinger wrote:
Correct! reason why we look very alike to certain ETs, is because we share the same ancestory and therefore similar DNA. Only major difference is that our intelligence level is much much lower compared to theirs.

When reading the true chronology of the planet, we quickly learn that the planet has been visited as far back as 200 million years by the Lyrians - the pleadians ancestors and our ancient ancestors.

We fail to snap into the ecosystem because we violate nature, fail to respect its workings and refuse to correct our irresponsible ways.



Well, just a couple of corrections here in my opinion.

First, instead of intelligence level you should have said knowledge level. But maybe that's what you meant anyway? Maybe this one is just splitting hairs.

But irresponsible ways doesn't entirely cover why we damage our environment so much. At least not in my opinion. I see it as a side effect of our not being a part of this environment. We're a plant, plain and simple. Or at least partially a plant. Anyway, that part of us that doesn't come from here has nothing to contribute to this environment. In fact we need to modify it simply to survive. Only in a very narrow band around the equator, one that doesn't go entirely around the planet on top of that, can we survive without donning protective clothing to avoid hypothermia, or can we sleep without a need for shelter ....... the list goes on and on. Anywhere else on this rock we need to have a cave at the very least, and a heat source (fire) to keep the environment at an acceptable temperature, along with a host of other things or we will die.

But yet we are extremely intelligent. Look at how far we've spread ourselves across the planet. The only place where we've never had any type of permanent camp is the bottoms of the ocean trenches. And we will get there too, I'm certain of this.

But what is my main clue that we come from elsewhere? Stop and think about it. Where is it that we yearn to travel to? The stars! Something out there is calling us, and calling to us hard. Considering the fact that the only regions of space that we know of are extremely inhospitable, what might make us want to go there so badly? Maybe something inside of us remembers? Maybe so.

Take care
Tim
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 26th, 2011, 7:51pm

on Apr 19th, 2011, 4:01pm, drwu23 wrote:
Actually no;...I have no major problem with evolution as it is currently proposed (there are weak areas but I think in time we will figure them out), nor do I see a compelling reason to think 'aliens' had anything to do with our develpoment via some form of genetic enhancement which might explain why we look like them.
It is not unlikely that 'humanoid bipeds' might evolve on other worlds but it is very unlikely they would look very much like us down to blond hair and blue eyes like the alleged Nordics. This is fantasy imo or there is some other more bizarre reason for this.
IMO some people need or want to believe such things because it fits their personal paradigm.
Where are all the space alens that look like Predator or any other ugly alien? Why do they all have 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs, etc ...? Only the reported 'greys' look significantly different from us and they look like us in embryonic/fetal form. What's up here..?

There simply isn't any actual evidence to support any of these claims. So shouldn't we be true skeptics on this and other similar issues rather than jump down the rabbit hole ?


I believe the proper scientific statement is that we haven't enough evidence to support, or refute, either side of this argument. So the rabbit hole really isn't there.

We should always be a little skeptical. But the evolutionary model completely fails where humans are concerned, and I do believe there has to be a reason for that. If it didn't fail, then we would be roughly an equivalent of the Chimpanzee. But that's obviously not the case, so something else must be up, but what?

One thing you are looking at backwards though? It wouldn't be that they look like us, rather that we look like them. Because if we are planted, then who would have planted us and what would we look like?

Let me leave with a question here. Well, a point, then a question. Every species that is a part of an environment, contributes something of importance to that environment. This is just a basic law of nature. Unspoken, but basic.

What do we contribute to this environment of importance? Remember, this has to be something we do on a regular basis, it can't be fertilizing the planet when we die.

I'll be awaiting your answer. I have had an inherent need to know the answer to that for a very long time.

Take care
Tim

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 26th, 2011, 8:00pm

on Apr 17th, 2011, 1:34pm, dave54 wrote:
You are incorrect. There is not an infinite number of planets. If there were, the universe would have infinite mass and there would be infinite gravity. Neither is true as it is an impossibility. I am speaking of the mathematical definition of infinity, not the poetic.

Do not make the false assumption all planets have developed sentient life. In our own solar system only one planet has. There may be non-sentient life elsewhere in our system system, but that is still only speculation. We can say with near certainty there is no other sentient life in our solar system than ourselves.

Evolutionary biologists universally agree humans are the most incredible accident. By all odds we should have never evolved on this planet. It required an unlikely alignment of a number of improbable events in the proper sequence. If any of the thousands of factors that shaped our evolution varied even a small amount, in all likelihood we would have not become our humanoid shape or possibly never develop sentience. Given the incredibly large number of planets (a finite number, not infinite) a poisson probability distribution suggests there are many other planets that evolved sentient life, and an even larger number with non-sentient life. But not an infinite number. Of the sentient life, a much smaller subset would be a generally similar humanoid shape and capable of living in our oxygen atmosphere without a life support system.

Lets suppose a percentage of planets will develop life. Not 100%, but a sizable fraction. Only a percentage of those will over time develop sentience. A still smaller fraction will develop sentience on a planet with liquid water and an oxygen atmosphere with gravity similar to earth and evolve to a humanoid shape, and smaller percentage than that will have developed technology capable of interstellar travel, and then to have found us and come to visit. No one yet has crunched all the numbers to estimate the final product, mostly because the numeric value of the various factors are debatable. But it is safe to assume the final product is much smaller than most people believe. It is not zero, but not in the billions either.


BTW -- I already noted most of the extra-solar planets discovered are gas giants, but not all. IIRC a few are believed to be rocky, but none within the Goldilocks zone of their host star. There most likely are many, but we have not found any yet.


I know that scientists say humans are an evolutionary accident. But the truth is we are an evolutionary impossibility. Unless they can come up with some way that we were able to mutate about fifty steps up the evolutionary tree from where we are supposed to be at. They use the word accident because they're afraid somebody will think they're insinuating the "G" word. And they can't have that, can they?

A couple of those gas giants are in the Goldilocks Zone of their host star. And among the currently accepted theories is one where the moons around a gas giant would all be habitable if large enough. But that's all speculation isn't it?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on Apr 27th, 2011, 07:00am

We must always remember that any true ET that can come here through space, time , or dimension must have very different or greatly advanced technology. It is to some degree believable that a form of non-human beings have been here for a long time. It would seem, if this is true, that they have a protection of some sort to conceal themselves from humans. History or myth may indicate this and explain to some extent their agenda
L E V I A T H A N
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 27th, 2011, 3:56pm

on Apr 26th, 2011, 7:42pm, icepick wrote:
Well, just a couple of corrections here in my opinion.

First, instead of intelligence level you should have said knowledge level. But maybe that's what you meant anyway? Maybe this one is just splitting hairs.

But irresponsible ways doesn't entirely cover why we damage our environment so much. At least not in my opinion. I see it as a side effect of our not being a part of this environment. We're a plant, plain and simple. Or at least partially a plant. Anyway, that part of us that doesn't come from here has nothing to contribute to this environment. In fact we need to modify it simply to survive. Only in a very narrow band around the equator, one that doesn't go entirely around the planet on top of that, can we survive without donning protective clothing to avoid hypothermia, or can we sleep without a need for shelter ....... the list goes on and on. Anywhere else on this rock we need to have a cave at the very least, and a heat source (fire) to keep the environment at an acceptable temperature, along with a host of other things or we will die.

But yet we are extremely intelligent. Look at how far we've spread ourselves across the planet. The only place where we've never had any type of permanent camp is the bottoms of the ocean trenches. And we will get there too, I'm certain of this.

But what is my main clue that we come from elsewhere? Stop and think about it. Where is it that we yearn to travel to? The stars! Something out there is calling us, and calling to us hard. Considering the fact that the only regions of space that we know of are extremely inhospitable, what might make us want to go there so badly? Maybe something inside of us remembers? Maybe so.

Take care
Tim


Intelligence, knowledge and wisdom; all in the same general meaning. In fact, in the pleadian language 'Ishwish' (IHWH), means 'God' or 'King of wisdom'. This is where one of the misunderstandings come from, in our religious groups.

Well, our irresponsible ways of life, have already damaged many of us as earth humans, mentally speaking. We are naive and ignorant in manys ways of the planet and dont care how we do things, as long as we profit from what we do.


smiley We are intelligent amongst the animals that we live with tongue


Like i mentioned in my earlier post, our ancestors come from Lyra, Erra and other planets and galaxies.


There are many very hospitable planets in the universe and other universes that support life, like the Lyrians, Errians, Pleadians, etc. And they all look like us, except they are far more mentally and spiritually evolved than we are.
These races are our true forefathers.

PLEASE dont think that i appear to be stubborn with this info but it comes from reliable ET knowledge and they are far more advanced races than we could possibly think.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on Apr 27th, 2011, 4:01pm

on Apr 27th, 2011, 07:00am, LEVIATHAN wrote:
We must always remember that any true ET that can come here through space, time , or dimension must have very different or greatly advanced technology. It is to some degree believable that a form of non-human beings have been here for a long time. It would seem, if this is true, that they have a protection of some sort to conceal themselves from humans. History or myth may indicate this and explain to some extent their agenda
L E V I A T H A N


There is soo much out there that we are not aware of smiley

ETs that came here, had the technology capable of interstellar travel, otherwise they would never have come. Think of the distances they had to travel.

Actually lol for them, the time they travel millions or even billions of light years, is reduced to seconds in their technology!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by AlienWithoutFeet4 on Apr 30th, 2011, 10:36pm

You can choose to believe me, or choose to not believe me, that is your choice. Now....

I have seen aliens. First alien I saw was when I was six years old. I was going to pick up my gameboy case in the living room, when standing at the front door was a tall white alien with red eyes. He, or it rather, seemed to glow and had white skin. He was very tall and had no visible nose or mouth.

Again, I know I saw this, but many of you will be skeptical. Secondly, I have seen greys as well, and they pretty much look exactly like how they're portrayed, if you're curious.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by cbachinger on May 2nd, 2011, 05:18am

Interesting encounter smiley You get many races out there and on earth itself. Greys are ones we should be careful of, from what ive read and heard.

What happened at the door?

When i think of it, i hope to have another encounter; my first was in china, when i witnessed an unbelievable display of UFOs flying around in the night sky at 3am!! Unfortunately i didnt have my camera with me to record and prove sad
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by LEcivilisateur on May 30th, 2011, 2:28pm

Hi all

I am french angry
And I have a theory on the "aliens"

My english suck then some pictures are better for all world can understand me !

I think they are our civilisateurs
look it
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by masker33 on May 30th, 2011, 5:54pm

Interesting, the idea that some form of non-human participated in human development is entirely possible and appropriate. Legends tend to reinforce these ideas. Welcome and your dialog is refreshing.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by PowerKnight on Oct 8th, 2011, 4:15pm

I wouldn`t discount in some cases the human species evolved through many a millenia time travelling back to the past or if you like here now present. We are still constantly evolving and our brain capacity is increasing hence larger heads, our eyes are apparently getting larger due to our increased and constant use of eyesight in the modern world of technology.
Our bodies are supposed to be shrinking due to our modern use of our dependance on technology etc, although world obesity is on the increase.
And we are using less of functions like hearing, the nose is supposed to be getting slightly smaller and our mouths are also or so I have read are too getting smaller.
These are due to our modern living in a world where we do less physical things than we did a century back.
And the usage although essential functions could be a future result of evolution, the typical large heads very big eyes smaller nose and mouth and often no ears could be our future homo-sapiens?
Just one of many examples I thought could be of interest, PowerKnight wink
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by pete4438 on Oct 8th, 2011, 10:06pm

Has anyone ever noticed how ancient Egyptians depict their Pharoes and others with elongated heads?
It's been theorised by Egyptologists that this could be because Pharoes were in fact aliens!!!
They also theorise that as, in their opinion, Egyptians were incapable of the technology to build the pyramids,
and were built by aliens.
When I first read this my first thought was 'here we go again!' but if you think about it, it does make some sense.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Oct 17th, 2011, 8:22pm

Everyone but the Egyptologists agree that the official version of how the Egyptians built their monuments is wrong. Even scientists in other fields acknowledge this. Why the theory persists is inexplicable.

But another possibility exists. One that even most of our most diehard believers agree to. If modern humans really were here 40,000 years ago at the latest, and many say 190,000 years ago, what are the chances humans would have been content to dance around the campfire all those years? In my opinion humans have been highly advanced before, only to bounce themselves back to the stone age. Ever read about the mysterious disappearance of the Indus Valley Civilization? That region in Pakistan with high background radiation levels? Try to discredit that story if you will. I have, but could not. And while you're at it, check out the regions in North America where background radiation is higher than normal, or the vitrified forts in Scotland.

Before raising that alien flag though, keep in mind that any advanced species would probably be wise enough not to give a primitive one technology. That would be asking for nothing but trouble. In my estimation, if our known history is a good indicator of the rate of advancement, we could have made these advances a minimum of six times before. Or, we might have become highly advanced at one time, only to nearly do ourselves in. And forget about not finding much evidence of prior civilization, as stone is the sole known building material to last more than a few thousand years. In short, if civilization was not constant, then all written records would disappear in less than 10,000 years. If a civilization did destroy itself, would the survivors have possibly sought to keep their knowledge alive by spreading it to more primitive societies? I say yes.

Yes, this is merely speculation. As is Ancient Aliens. However, we are a species with cognitive powers. In fact, we love solving problems. I do believe that aliens have been here, quite possibly all along. But in keeping with any type of advanced thinking/philosophy, it would most likely have been as observers. Unless, of course, somebody violated that rule. Intervention would then be required. And yes, I am fully aware of the many legends insinuating precisely that happened 10,000 or so years back.

But I see it as ancient humans from a destroyed civilization who helped our ancestors. Any aliens present would have merely observed, to see if we could overcome our failures. I say we prove we can.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jan 10th, 2012, 10:02am

From Through The Wormhole....with Morgan Freeman
what do aliens look like?


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/through-the-wormhole-what-do-aliens-look-like/
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 10th, 2012, 7:20pm

I watched that episode. To be honest, have we even properly identified all possible chemical bases for life forms?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jan 10th, 2012, 10:42pm

on Jan 10th, 2012, 7:20pm, icepick wrote:
I watched that episode. To be honest, have we even properly identified all possible chemical bases for life forms?


I have no idea not being a molecular biologist, but what has always bothered me is the fact that all the 'aliens' that have been seen on earth in contact and abductions are very humanoid. Some so much they could pass as humans. I have a huge problem with that.
I'll concede that it's possible some aliens might have a similar evolutionary path if conditions were right on their planet and they could be bipedal and humanoid but always with the same number of eyes, legs, arms, etc..? Sure one race could have monkeyed with our genes as you have mentioned but why would all of them look like us?
Where are the alien humanoids that are ugly like Predator? The ones with spiny ridges showing remnants of their evolutionary path? The ones with a tripod leg structure? Or 4 arms? Or more than 2 eyes?

What's wrong with this picture?

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 11th, 2012, 4:51pm

That's an easy answer. "In our image" is one of the most misunderstood statements in history. Today even Christians and Jews realize that the word image has many applications. Maybe I should have said especially Christians and Jews, because it's the New Age folks that don't seem to have a clue. Even science has concluded that a planet twice the mass of Earth would mean life forms with many legs.

But this opens the question about truly sentient life forms as well. The birds seem to be at the apex of intelligence for the dinosaur tree. And why do we possess so many subtle differences from other primates? We have a far more primitive foot, with no indication of it ever having an opposing thumb. The other primates are primarily herbivorous, while we are primarily carnivorous. The gut tells the tale here. Primary appearance says we're nearly the same, but closer examination often implies we are completely different. And that's but one of science's unspoken mysteries regarding us. For the trained eye, we're the ultimate puzzle.

A lot of people laughed at Hawking for that warning, but his reasoning is sound. The most intelligent of species is always the carnivores, the aggressive creatures. They must be able to outsmart what they hunt. What does this say about us, and our many differences from our alleged cousins? How long back was it that they discovered the Denisovan species that shared time on this rock with the Neanderthals and us? Now some even argue as to whether or not we descended from Cro Magnons.

You made a good point Wu. And I'm fully aware that you are far more than intelligent enough to realize the complexity inside the box you just pried the lid off of. I think I might have you this time. You left yourself little choice but to share some of the ideas which made this conclusion so important to you?

Fire away. All thoughts are valid on this one. It has bothered me for a very long time as well. Two basic life forms are recognized, carbon and silicone. Has your thoughts led you on as many tangents regarding this subject as mine has? Have we even discovered all possible forms of life here? My answer to the latter is no BTW.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Nodnunk on Jan 11th, 2012, 6:07pm

Convergent Evolution or have humans been engineered to a particular ET derived specification (in their own image)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution

http://www.accelerationwatch.com/convergentevolution.html


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 11th, 2012, 9:54pm

Insert the ET concept if you wish. But remember to address the word image correctly in any response. Why? Image has more facets than the physical one. A Sys Admin creates an image of a fixed disk for one example, and it has no likeness that compares to a computer. Or a hard drive for that matter.

But here is the crux of this issue. Its most complex, and bewildering, point. To address this issue one must address all of the subtle anomalies which can easily be interpreted as separating humans from other primates completely. This cannot be done by simply posting a link. Sorry. This is something that's been driving the scientific community crazy since the time of Darwin. That man did good work, but he proved nothing beyond the fact that creatures/life forms will adapt to fit their environment. All else is strictly theory.

But that theory would be far more solid if we humans weren't around. We are the odd man out so to speak. For every similarity we share with other primates, geneticists will come up with ten more characteristics which are entirely different. We need not have come from another planet, but it can seem that way at times. This is why I'm prompting Wu to share the thoughts that caused him to develop his convictions about life forms. As far as true sentient life on this rock is concerned, we have no precedent, no scientific Rosetta Stone to translate for us. Once you arrive at the top of the food chain, it's all conjecture and speculation.

So if you have convictions on this, definitely post them. But please don't try to do so with a link. It matters not whether you have thought this through as thoroughly as some, only that you have arrived at some conclusion, as well as how. Despite what science states, the unraveling of the human mystery is still a work in progress. Since we are the only true sentient life form on this planet, and we differ in so many ways from all others, can we use our example in application to sentient life elsewhere? Would there always be such differences from other life forms in the same environment? Or is this a fluke? If so, what might be the reasons? Does Panspermia play a role? Bipedal seems to be the optimum shape here. Would the same apply on another planet of similar mass and environment?

All of the above have gone through my mind regarding this issue at one time or another. Without extraterrestrial contact the answer will remain a mystery I'm afraid. But that doesn't prevent intelligent speculation ...........
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jan 12th, 2012, 10:54pm

on Jan 11th, 2012, 4:51pm, icepick wrote:
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You made a good point Wu. And I'm fully aware that you are far more than intelligent enough to realize the complexity inside the box you just pried the lid off of. I think I might have you this time. You left yourself little choice but to share some of the ideas which made this conclusion so important to you?

Fire away. All thoughts are valid on this one. It has bothered me for a very long time as well. Two basic life forms are recognized, carbon and silicone. Has your thoughts led you on as many tangents regarding this subject as mine has? Have we even discovered all possible forms of life here? My answer to the latter is no BTW.


Not sure what you are alluding to but I do not believe in Creation in the sense that some invisible being set things in motion as you seem to do. Or are you not a theist? I'm agnostic and see the Universe itself as being sentient and creative in it's own inherent way.

I think the reason people see only humanoid aliens is psychological in the sense that they aren't really seeing humanoid aliens at all but 'something else'.
Perhaps this 'something' can make us see whatever silly image we have in our subconscious using human archetypes of what aliens should look like. Or maybe we are interacting in conjunction with underlying layers of reality to co create these 'thing's and 'events'. But I honestly seriously doubt people are interacting with multiple humanoid aliens who all happen to look very much like us. IMHO it's ridiculous.
Science fiction writers come up with many kinds of imaginative life forms and I think the Universe would to.

The fact that all aliens who have allegedly come here look a lot like us either means they are not all really aliens (and perhaps none..) or that the Universe itself inherently as part of it's very nature tends to evolve humanoids from some principle we as yet don't understand, or there is a 'God' and he/she/it wants all beings to be humanoid. My gut tells me that what people are experiecning as ufo aliens -at least most of it-are not really ufo aliens at all. I have no idea what they could actually be and imho no one else does either and it is all speculation and conjecture.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:08pm

What I'm looking for is pretty simple really. But I wasn't probing for your belief system. That is individually specific, precisely as it should be. But since you brought it up, maybe I should point out that mine would probably surprise you. Yes, I believe in God, but my concepts are an unconventional deviation from the norm.

While I have spotted many indications of design in the universe, I see one intended to support life period. Even in the icy confines of space. Hence my comment about misinterpretation regarding the "in our image" line.

But if one uses life on this planet as a guide, there does seem to be some sort of limitation for natural intelligence at the current age of our solar system. The birds are part of one of the longest lines here, and while they are intelligent, they in no way match us. But they are far more intelligent than most realize. In one experiment, crows were put in a cage where food was in a narrow slot they couldn't reach into, and strips of thin wire were left on the floor. The crows bent the wires into hooks with their beaks, and fished the food from the slot. Creating and using tools. That's amazing.

Still, there is something unique about us on our very short tree if we're kin to other primates. And I'm dubious on this. If we are, then we represent some sort of fluke/accident. A quantum leap in evolution in a single step. By every known rule of science, that's impossible. There's something, actually many things I suspect, in our past of extreme importance which we are not aware of.

So much for us. Life could exist in the atmosphere of gas giants, despite the intense gravity. On a water world it would be obvious. Bipedal probably is optimal for sentient beings at our gravity, but don't attach image to shape, as that's probably in error.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by bonehead on Jan 16th, 2012, 12:22pm

on Jan 11th, 2012, 9:54pm, icepick wrote:
But here is the crux of this issue. Its most complex, and bewildering, point. To address this issue one must address all of the subtle anomalies which can easily be interpreted as separating humans from other primates completely. This cannot be done by simply posting a link. Sorry. This is something that's been driving the scientific community crazy since the time of Darwin. That man did good work, but he proved nothing beyond the fact that creatures/life forms will adapt to fit their environment. All else is strictly theory.


Kudos Ice. At least you have not bought into the entire Darwin fairy tale lock, stock and barrel. Thankfully you have thought for yourself about this.

But then there is the other part.....

It is a popular scienitistic belief that man is the pinnacle of some steadily upward arcing bell curve representing the "ultimate" development of life as we know it. And the place where this unsupported belief goes terribly awry is the "as we know it" part.

Just as Darwin's belief in the ultimate ascendancy of man supports the upwardly mobile bell-curve concept, the arrogant position this engenders is that man is something exceptional and "beyond" all other life that we "know". In other words, Darwinist/scientistic thought has taken on the baggage of medieval establishment religion in regarding all other earthly life-forms as inherently "inferior" to humans. This merely puts a scientistic face on the old religious saw that man is exceptional or "specially chosen" or exalted by God.

Along with this essentially religious belief comes its inverse aspect: that all other earthly life forms are inferior to humans and lack "sentience". (See your commentary below)....


on Jan 11th, 2012, 9:54pm, icepick wrote:
But that theory would be far more solid if we humans weren't around. We are the odd man out so to speak. For every similarity we share with other primates, geneticists will come up with ten more characteristics which are entirely different. We need not have come from another planet, but it can seem that way at times. This is why I'm prompting Wu to share the thoughts that caused him to develop his convictions about life forms. As far as true sentient life on this rock is concerned, we have no precedent, no scientific Rosetta Stone to translate for us. Once you arrive at the top of the food chain, it's all conjecture and speculation.

So if you have convictions on this, definitely post them. But please don't try to do so with a link. It matters not whether you have thought this through as thoroughly as some, only that you have arrived at some conclusion, as well as how. Despite what science states, the unraveling of the human mystery is still a work in progress. Since we are the only true sentient life form on this planet, and we differ in so many ways from all others, can we use our example in application to sentient life elsewhere? Would there always be such differences from other life forms in the same environment? Or is this a fluke? If so, what might be the reasons? Does Panspermia play a role? Bipedal seems to be the optimum shape here. Would the same apply on another planet of similar mass and environment?

All of the above have gone through my mind regarding this issue at one time or another. Without extraterrestrial contact the answer will remain a mystery I'm afraid. But that doesn't prevent intelligent speculation ...........


The idea that we are the "only true sentient life-from on this planet" may be a popular scientistic superstition, but that does not make it true. Quantum physics tell us that our universe is, at its most fundamental basis, a vast information field. Everything in our reality relies on this information field for the essential framework of its physical form. The generative form for everything from a grain of sand to the massive body of a whale making its way through the ocean is dependent on the imprints of its basic form on the matrix of the vast quantum morpho-genetic field.

Nothing exists without its ghostly plan-form imprinted on the vast electro-magnetic waves of the quantum field. If you want "real", the field and its wave-forms are real. The "solid" reality we call "reality" is only a projection from those essential patterns expressed from the quantum field. That is not "real" as we define it, but actually a kind of secondary abstraction.

So, at its most essential, "reality" is the information that is expressed through the field through the activating force of consciousness. This is my personal belief, but I think that ANY consciousness has the power to activate the field and bring "reality" into the realm of its "being". Shouldn't relative reality work the same for a microbe as for a human or a "nordic" alien? In other words, does the consciousness of the microbe activate its own experiential world in the same way that we humans activate ours?

I cannot conceive of any reason why this should not be true. And if it is, then it follows that the consciousness of the microbe is every bit as essential as the consciousness of we humans: those who we rather vaingloriously credit with being the "only sentient beings on the planet".

Furthermore, it has been proven, repeatedly, that plants respond to human consciousness. This suggests that plants have their own form of consciousness that responds to threats and/or favorable conditions in their environment. In other words, they have "sentience". This may be a hard pill to swallow for those steeped in Darwinist fantasies about being scientism's "chosen beings".

My personal theory is that humanity's great attachment to these kind of self aggrandizing fantasies stems from an essential inferiority complex deeply rooted in human cultural beliefs. This is reflected in the Christian belief that man is born inherently "sinful" and that there must be some "work" involved in lifting man from his essential state of "disgrace". I think that if we let go of our "need" for these fantasies of human exceptionalism, we may find that the universe and all of its vast myriad of creatures are not only sentient, but not as different from us as those popular scientistic religious superstitions tend to make it.

I go even further than that and believe that "inanimate" objects have a certain sentience of their own. Since they exist in the same quantum fields as other living beings, such as plants and animals, then they are also interpenetrated with the same "information" that in-forms living forms. In other words, they also have "experiences" that can imprint themselves on the information wave-forms from which they are expressed in our reality. In other words, you can learn about the past of any object through contact with its information field. This is the basis of "psychometry", the taking of "readings" from inanimate objects. I have some personal experience with this.

I think our traditional culturally motivated ways of looking at these things are too limited. If we open our minds a bit more, I think we will find the universe a much more interesting place than we have ever been taught to believe. Well, at least in our particular culture - a culture which I do not really believe exists at the very top of some fantasized ever upwardly arcing bell-curve.

But maybe that is just me....... rolleyes

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jan 16th, 2012, 1:39pm

on Jan 13th, 2012, 6:08pm, icepick wrote:
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While I have spotted many indications of design in the universe, I see one intended to support life period. Even in the icy confines of space. Hence my comment about misinterpretation regarding the "in our image" line. ....

But if one uses life on this planet as a guide, there does Still, there is something unique about us on our very short tree if we're kin to other primates. And I'm dubious on this. If we are, then we represent some sort of fluke/accident. A quantum leap in evolution in a single step. By every known rule of science, that's impossible. There's something, actually many things I suspect, in our past of extreme importance which we are not aware of.

So much for us. Life could exist in the atmosphere of gas giants, despite the intense gravity. On a water world it would be obvious. Bipedal probably is optimal for sentient beings at our gravity, but don't attach image to shape, as that's probably in error.


Could you mention this 'design' feature in the Universe that you believe was intended to support life?

Regarding human evolution, is it not possible we simply haven't figured out all the ways evolution works to explain why we are as we are? Maybe in time a scientific principle will be discovered?

As to life in the universe , I agree it could be in just about any form depending on what direction evolution took on any given world...and I would ask where are these beings then ? Why have only bipedal -2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs, etc -humanoid looking aliens come to earth? Not one unusual 'bipedal' type has managed space travel?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by skizicks on Jan 16th, 2012, 3:16pm

Part of the problem is too many think that man's combined intelligence somehow applies to each and every person when it does not.
Man 1.0, the basic human is not much smarter than any other primate. Look at those among us who cannot access the worlds information. They remain today amid the world's technology, as stone age primitives.
Man's success is not because the person has knowledge, wisdom, or intelligence, but rather because the species has a written language that alows knowledge to be retained and passed on. We teach each other to use tools not build them. A method that trains pilots who could never build or repair their aircrafts for example.
The Crow example is of problem solving. True human-like intelligence would by now have every Crow in the world with a bit of wire at hand just in case.
And Bony, just as we can rely on Creationists to fall back on God and the Evolutionists on Darwin we can always count on you to fall back on Quantum Theory to explain everything. All three are good explainations to some but are, after all, just unproven theories taken on Faith.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 16th, 2012, 10:16pm

Skizicks, some things have to be taken in faith. Even in science. At our current level of development, we have no other choice. Things must go on.

Wu, you do remember that mass-matter ratio in the universe, don't you? It can't deviate one way or the other, else we would not be here. That's the ultimate in long shots. Way better than hitting the Trifecta at the Kentucky Derby. This includes the one known blank hole in the universe as well. The Bootes Void:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C3%B6tes_void

250 million light years of practically nothing.

Bonehead, I believe I can address your post with the other two here. Congratulations on catching my in our image comment, but I'm unsure as to whether or not you understood me correctly.

Maybe I wasn't clear as to what I meant about truly sentient. Yes, other species are capable of learning, and all are aware. But humans are the only species which take this to an entirely new level. Not only do we thrive on solving problems, we also take great delight in creating puzzles/problems for ourselves which other creatures would see as pointless. They exist on the bottom rung of the hierarchy of needs nearly all the time. The survival driven one. Some species can climb to the level of compassion/love, but go no higher. At least none that are known.

We could debate for years as to whether we came by our abilities naturally or not. Even many scientists believe this answer to be no. Our DNA strand is too short, our chromosome count is too small, and then you start running into our peculiarities. For example, we are omnivorous. So are other primates. But they are primarily herbivorous. Not only are we primarily carnivorous, indications are that we were once entirely carnivorous. It isn't enough to completely shake us from the primate tree, but it is enough to force us into guest status so to speak. There are far too many other peculiarities to address here. Whether one wishes to admit it or not, we are unique here. The reason why, is where the open debate comes from. No information of a conclusive nature exists at the current time.

That said, we're slightly off topic here. Wu caught what I said about life being able to exist here, and I think you caught on to that as well Bonehead, so I'm assuming you both understand that reasoning.

I don't believe in the universe anymore, so much as I buy into the multiverse theory. It makes great sense. So does the concept that at least where our local part of it is concerned, it is meant to support life. Period. On the surface of any planet, in the icy void of space, perhaps even within the firey furnace of a star. Who knows what adaptation life might take in a given environment.

As far as our being the apex of everything is concerned, we are most definitely not. Bonehead, you are incorrect about current religions teaching this, because that is the exact opposite of what is written. As is the statement about our being inherently evil, or sinful. That's not quite in context. What is said is that we're too curious, and can easily go astray if we have no guidance. There is far too much proof for that to argue with.

Wu, you addressed this point of the thread better than any of us when you asked why only bipedal creatures are allegedly visiting here. Maybe I can offer some speculative insight on this. Who is to say that many different types of life aren't visiting here? Perhaps many life forms come here, but we're only capable of recognizing life forms similar to ours?

Bonehead, I think we're both saying the same thing here, but it isn't clear. I think this because you seem to have caught what I meant about the image statement.

And Skizicks, I believe you're missing something about people who have problems accessing information. Speak to a DVD/retarded individual sometime and watch their eyes. They nearly always know what they want to say, but something is misfiring. You can often see the frustration they feel because they can't express themselves as they would like to.

As far as our unique nature is concerned, this only applies to the realm of what we know and understand. Whether we were created/engineered, or came to be naturally is something we cannot determine now. We can safely say that we did not evolve in the Darwinist fashion though, but it is impossible to pin this down at this time. As I stated when I started this, some things must be taken in faith.

But there are two types of faith, are there not? There is 'faith in ............', and 'faith that ....... '. If you stop to think about it, those mean two entirely different things.

As far as what intelligent life looks like? It doesn't have to look like anything at all, does it? What if there are life forms you can't see at all?

I'm miles from my primary point, but am going to reign this in here. I believe that we all know where I'm headed, but we lack the necessary space to cover the subject. We live in a realm of mystery, but it is one realm out of how many? To be honest, there is probably no need to debate. We are probably all correct in our thoughts ............ somewhere. How many realities might exist?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jan 16th, 2012, 10:51pm

on Jan 16th, 2012, 10:16pm, icepick wrote:
Wu, you do remember that mass-matter ratio in the universe, don't you? It can't deviate one way or the other, else we would not be here. That's the ultimate in long shots. Way better than hitting the Trifecta at the Kentucky Derby. This includes the one known blank hole in the universe as well. The Bootes Void:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C3%B6tes_void

250 million light years of practically nothing.



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Wu, you addressed this point of the thread better than any of us when you asked why only bipedal creatures are allegedly visiting here. Maybe I can offer some speculative insight on this. Who is to say that many different types of life aren't visiting here? Perhaps many life forms come here, but we're only capable of recognizing life forms similar to ours?


As far as what intelligent life looks like? It doesn't have to look like anything at all, does it? What if there are life forms you can't see at all?

We live in a realm of mystery, but it is one realm out of how many? To be honest, there is probably no need to debate. We are probably all correct in our thoughts ............ somewhere. How many realities might exist?


Many mention that matter mass ratio thing as well as other mathematical constants that seem to be needed for life but if it wasn't this way we wouldn't be here to notice it. So perhaps it's just the way things developed in this reality and the others are far different. Doesn't mean it was designed.
Not sure what the Bootes void has to do with this.

The EDH does address life forms from other dimensions or alternate realities which is why some like Dr Vallee prefer it over the ETH.

Can't recall who said this but your comment about mystery reminds me of a quote that goes:
'Life is not a problem to be solved but a mystery to be experienced'.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jan 16th, 2012, 11:23pm

No, it doesn't have to mean it was designed, but there is an odds issue here. But we are also talking from a very meager knowledge level.

I really like that quote about life and mysteries. I believe I've heard it before, but that doesn't take away from its insightful nature. It's the kind of thing we need reminded of at times.

The Bootes Void only applies because it demonstrates how a phenomenon persists despite irregularity. I believe the actual ratio is 1 times 10 followed by twenty zeroes, to the twentieth power, to one. Not certain why it's important to multiply it by one though. Any ideas?

Yes, there are many more of these 'design anomalies'. Like you said, if they weren't there, we wouldn't be discussing them.

But here's the $64 trillion (to the twentieth power) question though. Would this ratio apply to other universes in the multiverse? Or does our type of physics fly out the window there? Providing the theory is right natch. I'm not even going to address the area between universes.

I believe this would nail down our assertion life could look like anything though. But as to my thoughts about different life forms visiting, but we fail to recognize them as such? It's just a thought though .........
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by backlit on Feb 5th, 2012, 9:44pm

So why is there life at all? What purpose does it serve?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by backlit on Feb 5th, 2012, 9:48pm


Referring back to the header of this thread, why can't or don't people who have been abducted been able to tell us what pictures of aliens are real or not?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tauri17tau on Feb 12th, 2012, 10:55pm

"So why is there life at all? What purpose does it serve?"

Backlit

It's been suggested that question may very well be the answer. Question being, "why" is being defined by creation itself. Creation being the eternal infinite defining of itself. The question, "who are we?" or "who am I?" is being answered by the infinite possibilities in creation.

"why can't or don't people who have been abducted been able to tell us what pictures of aliens are real or not?"

I've read polls with those who have contact with aliens or ET's say overwhelmingly the majority of contact are abductions. Perhaps as high as 80% to 85%.
I have had contact with two ET's species. All quite positive and engaging. Normal. At least in my world. Why are people purportedly being abducted by ET"s? What is with that? Over the years I haven't said much at all. I don't mind dealing with inquisitive minds but I will not deal with ignorant minds.

However I can state one of the ET contact are humanoid. The other very human. Actually attractive and healthy humans. All positive encounters.

Are abductions actually fear filtering through ones perception? I suspect fear has something to do with it.

tauri




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Leon on Feb 16th, 2012, 12:45pm

on Feb 12th, 2012, 10:55pm, tauri17tau wrote:
"So why is there life at all? What purpose does it serve?"

Backlit

It's been suggested that question may very well be the answer. Question being, "why" is being defined by creation itself. Creation being the eternal infinite defining of itself. The question, "who are we?" or "who am I?" is being answered by the infinite possibilities in creation.

"why can't or don't people who have been abducted been able to tell us what pictures of aliens are real or not?"

I've read polls with those who have contact with aliens or ET's say overwhelmingly the majority of contact are abductions. Perhaps as high as 80% to 85%.
I have had contact with two ET's species. All quite positive and engaging. Normal. At least in my world. Why are people purportedly being abducted by ET"s? What is with that? Over the years I haven't said much at all. I don't mind dealing with inquisitive minds but I will not deal with ignorant minds.

However I can state one of the ET contact are humanoid. The other very human. Actually attractive and healthy humans. All positive encounters.

Are abductions actually fear filtering through ones perception? I suspect fear has something to do with it.

tauri





Tauri could you expand on the species you came in contact with? Their origin, purpose for visiting Etc....
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by hyundisonata on Feb 16th, 2012, 5:05pm

Where do you start or go with this post lol it seems to cover and question everything. How can anyone say what is real or not as no one actually knows for sure, all we have is our thoughts and belief? My own is built on my experiences that life has thrown at me. My thoughts are a simple combination of facts I have been allowed to gather. ET is nothing more than a shepherd and gardener; he has his place just as we do. God well just look in a mirror and you will see god, look at a worm and you will see god, everything is equal. It’s all the same; life is but an energy supply for the god national grid. The god national grid is what holds and drives the universe, we want to know everything and that’s a pointless quest , everything is explained fully when you shed your space suit known as the body and join the god grid as an equal. At present we are but children asking are we there yet constantly asking why. Just be patent and enjoy your short time you have as all will be explained soon enough. That’s how I see the whole process yes simple and straight forward built on what I learned from ET and countless NDEs.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tauri17tau on Feb 16th, 2012, 9:26pm

There are two kinds of knowledge. First hand where you directly experience and second hand knowledge where you read, hear or gather knowledge from another source other than yourself.

People seem nearly desperate for second hand knowledge. As if government disclosure means anything other than giving the government a huge amount of power. I am not for "government disclosure" or huge amounts of power. Besides the government elect doesn't know anything. They're too busy with business and monkey business at hand. Those who know if you can find out who they are won't tell you anything. Both legitimate and hidden agenda reasons.

They don't kill people anymore for reporting ET's and stuff. Unless you want to start printing gold and silver certificates. For myself I'm certain JFK had a ET connection.
Yes Virginia there are conspiracies. Intelligence people know something but want to know more. But "They" won't tell them.

Not into men in black. I favor woman in black.

The sly of hand is always keeping you in the question. How many years since Roswell? 60 years and your still in the same question. By keeping you in the question you'll never get there. You'll never get to the answer. Pretty cool trick keeping everyone stuck. Have you ever seen a local tv news report of a UFO report? "Well Chet we have a report of little green men in the neighborhood", chuckle, chuckle. Wink, wink. Mind control in action. Marginalizing those who even mention UFO's. Those tv news talking heads are there to keep you comfortably asleep. Just go back to sleep, then they'll give you a feel good news report.

I've had 5o years of direct observation and connections. Awe inspiring at times. Can't explain it all. Long story. Yep, I believe that garden experiment. Except it's more down to Earth, so to speak. Think they come down here once in a while, show us how to grow corn and stuff. BTW, no one is here to save the world. Being nicer to each other would be a really huge step.

Humans and humanoid. Pretty cool too. Sorry no horrible greys or demons. No buggy eyes. Humanoid had large eyes but not ugly oval and had pointy ears. Maybe Travis Walden was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm sure those meanies are out there too. Just never encountered any. Met some mean people though! Humanoid ones travel in family units. Curious about humanity, our technology and us. Like they were on a social studies tour. They were fascinated with our human civilization. Cute and kind of sweet. The human ones, signal me, contact me. They seem to be concerned about my spiritual well being and humanities well being. I suspect they get involved with humanity. Sometimes the more answers bring more questions. BTW, countless species out there. Though some were always here. Did you "just" notice them? That's funny they were always there. Hmm, wonder what's going to appear next that was always there?

Appears to be all interdimensional. Ships that appear to be part organic. Not sure. Love to have my very own ship. Wouldn't you?

Interdimensional except for that one that seemed electrical and following magnetic lines. Long time ago. Never saw anything like that anywhere since. Very curious.

It is said there appears to be no difference between one who has fallen down from one who has fallen up.

Speaking of DNA, the only thing between your outside environment to your DNA is your perception. There are those who have made it a science controlling peoples DNA and evolution by manipulating their perception. By putting a huge amount of garbage into peoples brains. Then people project that into their outer environment. Then they don't know what the hell is out there. Don't put crap in your brain, like stupid beliefs. Spookiest thing I've ever seen are people with garbage brains.

How come UFO's and things are more "normal" in Mexico than the US? Is it because Mexico doesn't have as many tv talking heads with agendas? Perhaps it's because Mexico puts their garbage into landfills?

Take the para out of paranormal

Stay balanced. Somebody has to do the dishes and stuff too here ya know.

tauri







Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Smokingman on Feb 21st, 2012, 05:13am

The Reports suggested that the Alien race that influences around this part of universe is grey`s. Evil ones and Good ones.

Apparently the good greys give abductees vital information about our planets future, sights of war , disasters, even warn about coming nuclear war and our wrong usage of nuclear power.

Bad greys usually gather "organic" materials from abductees for their own unknown purposes, they need something from us and pretty much what i have read how they experiment us either hurts like hell or abductee feels like he or she is being humiliated or touched in places that victim feels strong feeling of rape .
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by TMalcolmGray on Feb 24th, 2012, 10:30pm

I believe that Extraterrestrials most likely look like humans. They have probably been among us for at least a couple centuries. For all we know, our civilization as been breeding with aliens creating a whole new breed of alien/human hybrids... This is only a wild theory but there is a chance that there is some truth in it as well.

-T. Malcolm Gray
unidentifiedanthology.blogspot.com
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tauri17tau on Feb 24th, 2012, 11:43pm

"Evil ones and Good ones"

That is brilliant smokingman.

That is exactly the key to the current human condition. There is no such thing as good and evil. Good and evil resides only in the human mind. These dualistic beliefs are the causes to human dysfunction. This is the reason behind hate, racism, war and poverty. Even human evolution can be, has been and is attempted to be manipulated through false beliefs. They literally have a profound effect on the human neuro system. 11 is a DNA code, they are the pillars of the mind.

The ET's are here to assist humanity in waking up from it's stupor. Humanity has externalized it's internal struggle. Humanity has trapped itself by the very beliefs it so desperately clings to as the pillars of the mind crumble down into dust.

I suggest we completely redefine what an extra terrestrial and terrestrial entities are.

tauri




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Feb 25th, 2012, 05:56am

on Feb 24th, 2012, 11:43pm, tauri17tau wrote:
"Evil ones and Good ones"

That is brilliant smokingman.

That is exactly the key to the current human condition. There is no such thing as good and evil. Good and evil resides only in the human mind. These dualistic beliefs are the causes to human dysfunction. This is the reason behind hate, racism, war and poverty. Even human evolution can be, has been and is attempted to be manipulated through false beliefs. They literally have a profound effect on the human neuro system. 11 is a DNA code, they are the pillars of the mind.

The ET's are here to assist humanity in waking up from it's stupor. Humanity has externalized it's internal struggle. Humanity has trapped itself by the very beliefs it so desperately clings to as the pillars of the mind crumble down into dust.

I suggest we completely redefine what an extra terrestrial and terrestrial entities are.

tauri





First, welcome aboard.

Now let me get this straight. You are asserting that ET only comes in benevolent flavors, working eternally for the common good? Interesting.

But good and evil is only a misconception of the human mind? Does this mean that when somebody in the third world kills a female child because it won't be able to work the fields like a male child could, the only reason that is evil is because our minds perceive it that way? In my opinion you would have done far better to make your argument in another fashion.

A very intelligent, wise man once said that the only constant is change. Which is, of course, correct. I'm sure you've heard of him, Albert Einstein? Variety is said to be the spice of life. In plainer words, difference is what creates the force which makes things move/work in every arena. Why would extraterrestrials be any different?

Mistakes are made by everybody, everyday. But the fact that there is good as well as bad is no mistake, and that rule applies to every living creature in this realm. It's how motivation is created. Without motivation we would simply sit down, and well ........... die. If you care about nothing, you will do nothing.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the concept of extraterrestrials running around on a mission to save humanity. I do believe they may be observing us, but that is all. I'm sure that any species has enough issues of their own to deal with that would prevent them from traveling who knows how many light years to use up precious resources trying to rescue some species which may very well not make it. I am sure that you are aware the law of averages states that only a very minute percentage of species survives. As well as that the laws of nature tells us that the percentage of species which goes extinct is total? As in 100%?

When we get to the point we can travel to the stars, we will find both benevolent and malevolent beings living elsewhere. I am very confident of this. We are not such a unique species that we would hold the edge in diversity like that.

On the other hand, if we are then the rest had best watch out. Or we will control everything, shortly after arriving on the scene. Don't you realize that it's diversity which creates ideas? Ideas create the concepts which creates realities and technologies. It truly does take all kinds.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tauri17tau on Feb 25th, 2012, 4:56pm

icepick

First, I ain't selling you or anyone anything. How you maintain your conscious existence is your responsibility. The conflict and seeming contradiction you have expressed in response to my statement is the projection of the conflict within your own mind. No intent here to demean you or make you lesser than myself or anyone else.

There is nothing between your outside environment to your DNA except your perception. Your perception can be effected and distorted by beliefs, false beliefs. Dualistic beliefs create a dualistic and unbalanced flow of ne
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Feb 25th, 2012, 5:41pm

I don't think we need to redefine extraterrestrial (not of earth) or terrestrial (of earth).
What I do think we need to do is start to think outside the box a little regarding the whole ufo enigma. Far too many people are stuck in the ETH model and unwilling or unable to frame the ufo enigma in any other way. When we attach ourselves to a specific model we limit the possibilities of what the enigma may or may not represent.

I would like to ask all those who think that the 'aliens' 'look like us' why they believe that. Based on what ? Stories of the 'Nordics'?....belief in alien engineering of humans..? And what actually supports those ideas?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by tauri17tau on Feb 25th, 2012, 5:52pm

icepick

First, I ain't selling you or anyone anything. How you maintain your conscious existence is your responsibility. The conflict and seeming contradiction you have expressed in response to my statement is the projection of the conflict within your own mind. No intent here to demean you or make you lesser than myself or anyone else.

There is nothing between your outside environment to your DNA except your perception. Your perception can be effected and distorted by beliefs, false beliefs. Dualistic beliefs create a dualistic and unbalanced flow of neurotransmitters into the brain. You then project that distortion, imbalance into your outer world and then you perceive in that outer world your own beliefs. The disproportionate darkening and lightening the pillars of the brain are designating devils and saviors. Absolutely impossible to see objectively what is in front of you under this affliction. Distorting the mind, is to disturb the true essence of who you are. That incessant voice in your head, that you might have, may not be you. Silence that internal chatter and you’ll find yourself.

The entire human race is afflicted. It is not only an inherited affliction it is an ongoing assault generated primarily by the autopilot of ignorance amplified generation after generation after generation. The primary cause for the distortion has been the manipulations through religions. It is not the religions that are the cause. It is the distortion, the twisting and the manipulation of the meanings and interpretations of religions for personal gains and out of pure ignorance. There have been people for centuries who have made it a science in manipulating humanity.

I never mentioned a savior, you did. That savior you mention resides in your left hemisphere, the north pillar. There are no saviors but there are arrangements. Arrangements made a long time ago. Every ET is completely aware of the human condition. Every time ET’s do a drive by or park over a city they are altering human perception one tiny notch at a time. By altering perceptions will alter beliefs which alter perceived reality. ET’s have been here since the beginning.

Death is an illusion. Life on all levels of existence is precious and sacred. Whether an entity is benevolent or not benevolent is inconsequential when that preciousness of life is understood and not just intellectually comprehended. That understanding can not exist in the dysfunction of dualistic false beliefs of the mind. There are those very close to our third dimensional world who have negative and often malicious influence. They can only influence a dysfunctional mind. Keeps coming back, it is the responsibility of the individual person to maintain their own conscious existence. As I suggested, we need to redefine what extra terrestrial and terrestrial entities are.

The only place pertinent is here, third dimension terrestrial humans. There are people who are making out by keeping humanity in a dysfunctional state. There are people profitting by keeping humanity in a marginal state of pathology. That’s what it really is, a pathology. The potential harm or threat is mostly from other humans including and perhaps at times mostly from yourself.

There are bears in the woods here and there. But you can not know what your really are looking at through lenses of distorted beliefs and perceptions. The only possible outcome unless humanity chooses otherwise is self destruction. And, there are those who plan on profiting from humanities self destruction. I’m giving you the primary obstacle and the primary message. There is far more. First, change your perception.


Einstein? Einstein said there was no dark, only a lack of light. He said there was no evil, only a lack of good.

tauri

ps, Do not take anything personally. It is not meant
in any form to be personal. I'm speaking to all of us, including myself.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by BMT on Apr 16th, 2012, 12:56pm

I was a skeptic of bigfoot and never had seen a UFO (though I tried) and all that changed in 1999, SInce then I have had several UFo/bigfoot sightings. One specific bigfoot sighting was a revelation of the scientific nature of these (in my opinion) time travelers/aliens.
Aliens look hairy and stink, We dont want em here.=)
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Erno86 on Apr 17th, 2012, 2:40pm

on Apr 16th, 2012, 12:56pm, BMT wrote:
I was a skeptic of bigfoot and never had seen a UFO (though I tried) and all that changed in 1999, SInce then I have had several UFo/bigfoot sightings. One specific bigfoot sighting was a revelation of the scientific nature of these (in my opinion) time travelers/aliens.
Aliens look hairy and stink, We dont want em here.=)


Can you please enlighten us on your UFO/Bigfoot sightings, and what kind of "stink" do they smell like?


Thanks,

Erno86
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 17th, 2012, 4:52pm



Dedicated to Bigfoot.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9FBQ1O5F8k

cool
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 17th, 2012, 7:13pm

on Feb 25th, 2012, 5:52pm, tauri17tau wrote:
icepick

First, I ain't selling you or anyone anything. How you maintain your conscious existence is your responsibility. The conflict and seeming contradiction you have expressed in response to my statement is the projection of the conflict within your own mind. No intent here to demean you or make you lesser than myself or anyone else.

There is nothing between your outside environment to your DNA except your perception. Your perception can be effected and distorted by beliefs, false beliefs. Dualistic beliefs create a dualistic and unbalanced flow of neurotransmitters into the brain. You then project that distortion, imbalance into your outer world and then you perceive in that outer world your own beliefs. The disproportionate darkening and lightening the pillars of the brain are designating devils and saviors. Absolutely impossible to see objectively what is in front of you under this affliction. Distorting the mind, is to disturb the true essence of who you are. That incessant voice in your head, that you might have, may not be you. Silence that internal chatter and you’ll find yourself.

The entire human race is afflicted. It is not only an inherited affliction it is an ongoing assault generated primarily by the autopilot of ignorance amplified generation after generation after generation. The primary cause for the distortion has been the manipulations through religions. It is not the religions that are the cause. It is the distortion, the twisting and the manipulation of the meanings and interpretations of religions for personal gains and out of pure ignorance. There have been people for centuries who have made it a science in manipulating humanity.

I never mentioned a savior, you did. That savior you mention resides in your left hemisphere, the north pillar. There are no saviors but there are arrangements. Arrangements made a long time ago. Every ET is completely aware of the human condition. Every time ET’s do a drive by or park over a city they are altering human perception one tiny notch at a time. By altering perceptions will alter beliefs which alter perceived reality. ET’s have been here since the beginning.

Death is an illusion. Life on all levels of existence is precious and sacred. Whether an entity is benevolent or not benevolent is inconsequential when that preciousness of life is understood and not just intellectually comprehended. That understanding can not exist in the dysfunction of dualistic false beliefs of the mind. There are those very close to our third dimensional world who have negative and often malicious influence. They can only influence a dysfunctional mind. Keeps coming back, it is the responsibility of the individual person to maintain their own conscious existence. As I suggested, we need to redefine what extra terrestrial and terrestrial entities are.

The only place pertinent is here, third dimension terrestrial humans. There are people who are making out by keeping humanity in a dysfunctional state. There are people profitting by keeping humanity in a marginal state of pathology. That’s what it really is, a pathology. The potential harm or threat is mostly from other humans including and perhaps at times mostly from yourself.

There are bears in the woods here and there. But you can not know what your really are looking at through lenses of distorted beliefs and perceptions. The only possible outcome unless humanity chooses otherwise is self destruction. And, there are those who plan on profiting from humanities self destruction. I’m giving you the primary obstacle and the primary message. There is far more. First, change your perception.


Einstein? Einstein said there was no dark, only a lack of light. He said there was no evil, only a lack of good.

tauri

ps, Do not take anything personally. It is not meant
in any form to be personal. I'm speaking to all of us, including myself.


You are misreading my statements as a result of your personal bias. Why the immediate jump to ETs? Might I remind you that, since no physical evidence can be produced, a true leap of faith is required to arrive at such a conclusion?

If it could just be limited to "I saw something", or "I think I saw something", would any subsequent investigation not take a more complete form? If one looks for something using a specific type of filter, they will probably find it. Problem is, all too often they never found what they thought.

In other words, I'm not suggesting nothing was ever seen. Only that people look across the entire spectrum.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by pete4438 on Apr 18th, 2012, 04:26am

Why do we automatically assume that ET looks any different to us?
I have never understood this reasoning at all.
We can't possibly know what they look like.
If one DOES assume, for the sake of arguement, that creatures of intelligence exist on another planet, they just might be identical to us! Why would they look any different?
Just my opinion people. But I would really welcome a well reasoned arguement on this.
I find the subject extremely interesting.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 18th, 2012, 07:26am

That list is endless Pete, stronger gravity means more muscular or lighter means taller then you have environment, if its harsh they may have developed lots of fur or feathers, scales , leathery skin or even armor such as shell type coating. Who knows, all I know is the ones I have met with were tall with two arms and two legs with normal shaped heads at least four foot taller than your average human. Lets just accept ET is real for a second and that he has been tampering with our DNA, what is to stop him doing the same on another planet but with a fish or a dog and now that species has evolved and conquered space and now visit us or works along side ET. We could just be a small part of one big experiment that only time will tell the truth.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 18th, 2012, 10:01am

on Apr 18th, 2012, 04:26am, pete4438 wrote:
Why do we automatically assume that ET looks any different to us?
I have never understood this reasoning at all.
We can't possibly know what they look like.
If one DOES assume, for the sake of arguement, that creatures of intelligence exist on another planet, they just might be identical to us! Why would they look any different?
Just my opinion people. But I would really welcome a well reasoned arguement on this.
I find the subject extremely interesting.


Are you serious....?

huh
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by pete4438 on Apr 18th, 2012, 11:13am

There's always one and yes I'm serious!
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 18th, 2012, 1:13pm

It is a good point DRWU, lets face fact, most ET images are out of Hollywood’s studios along with the hubcap making the buzzing noise. No doubt there are ETs similar to us and more than likely it is them that are the advanced species but we would have to evaluate their home planet to get a rough idea of what shape or form they would be and as for their social behavior it could be similar or maybe similar to the hive social behavior, we just do not know for sure and that goes for us loonies that have had the abduction experience, we just do not know.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Apr 18th, 2012, 8:57pm

on Apr 18th, 2012, 04:26am, pete4438 wrote:
Why do we automatically assume that ET looks any different to us?
I have never understood this reasoning at all.
We can't possibly know what they look like.
If one DOES assume, for the sake of arguement, that creatures of intelligence exist on another planet, they just might be identical to us! Why would they look any different?
Just my opinion people. But I would really welcome a well reasoned arguement on this.
I find the subject extremely interesting.


Any who might be watching us here would look identical to us. As a reason why, I point to that famous broadcast by Orson Welles in 1938. They would make certain they did, even if they did not.

Under our level of gravity, the bipedal humanoid shape would undoubtedly be universal. It's a very efficient design. As far as identical appearance is concerned, that's debatable.

Here's a question destined to make sparks fly. Why do the alien greys match the description of bodies found of people who hid from firestorms during WWII bombing raids in bathtubs or similar perfectly?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 19th, 2012, 12:49pm

There is absolutely no reason to believe that evolution on another world would produce beings so similar to us that they would be identical. That's simply not going to happen even with very similar planetary conditions. They might be bipedal and roughly humanoid but that's where all smilarity would end. They would look truly 'alien' to us.

Having said that and assuming space aliens are here, it's certainly possible that an advanced race could alter their appearance to resemble us ,or for the ancient alien theory proponents they could have altered us in the past to look like them, and that might account for one race but not all the alleged aliens that somehow manage to find earth.

Where are the aliens who look like Predator or like the alien in the Alien series of films? They are certainly humanoid, bipedal, and intelligent. Why no aliens with spines , bony or crest like residual anatomical form, 4 arms, or a tripod leg structure. Those are all completely feasible from an evolutionary standpoint.
Where are all the truly ugly aliens but humanoid in form?
What's wrong with this picture?




Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Festus on Apr 19th, 2012, 1:26pm

"Please explain exactly who you are calling ugly."

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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Apr 19th, 2012, 2:15pm

on Apr 19th, 2012, 1:26pm, Festus wrote:
"Please explain exactly who you are calling ugly."

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grin
Perfect example...where are all the Klingons?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by activevisual on May 30th, 2012, 02:48am

Well I don't know, but I always imagine it would be like the tall, spindly alien creature in Close Encounters. i think they are kind of robort.
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Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by freakshow on Jun 17th, 2012, 9:39pm

I imagine them as either resembling deformed angels(roughly humanoid with wings) or as a type of octopus with thick skin for low-gravity planets. But maybe the aliens are just timelords.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by icepick on Jun 17th, 2012, 11:53pm

8 legs for low gravity? A typo perhaps?

Wu, would you really want to meet a Klingon? Nice knowing ya! Would you have picked a fight with Worf in school? grin

Seriously now, we have talked about this. Would you show your face on a planet with natives this hostile of you didn't look exactly like then?

Ever see the movie Outlander? Where Earth was an abandoned seed colony for an alien species? I can list all sorts of reasons why any aliens visiting here would look just like us. As well as many reasons a non similar species would have absolutely zero interest here.

Tim
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by drwu23 on Jun 18th, 2012, 3:30pm

on Jun 17th, 2012, 11:53pm, icepick wrote:
.....
Wu, would you really want to meet a Klingon? Nice knowing ya! Would you have picked a fight with Worf in school? grin

Seriously now, we have talked about this. Would you show your face on a planet with natives this hostile of you didn't look exactly like then?

Ever see the movie Outlander? Where Earth was an abandoned seed colony for an alien species? I can list all sorts of reasons why any aliens visiting here would look just like us. As well as many reasons a non similar species would have absolutely zero interest here.

Tim


Well..let's go through those points:

No, I would not like to meet an angry Klingon..but Worf would be ok.

Why would they have to show their 'face'..? If they were truly alien I suppose they could remain covert as most 'aliens' seem to do anyway. But that isn't an answer about why aliens might or might not be 'humanoid'as a result of evolutionary process and it's basically a straw man position.

I acually just watched the film Outlander the other day because I like Jim Caviezel in Person Of Interest. Are we the only 2 who have seen that film? Seed colony?....I must have missed that part?

But please list those reasons why aliens visiting here would look like us so I can respond as to why they wouldn't.

And aliens who don't look like us might be interested in earth for many reasons..probably the same ones as the so-called humanoid aliens. Resources like water...elements......a rest stop....exploration of this part of the galaxy...or ones we can't even imagine.

In my my mind the fact that so many of the 'aliens' ,that people encounter, look so much like us raises a red flag with me.


Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by freakshow on Jun 18th, 2012, 3:51pm

@icepick, Its easier to create technologies on land(with a few exceptions, of course), and though octopi are stronger than they look, I doubt a land octopus could pick up a hammer in earth-like gravity. Plus, eight arms would make it a natural-born multitasker, perfect for using complicated machines. Plus, octopi are smart. Need more reasons?
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by Silver on Nov 13th, 2012, 7:11pm

The pictures that come close to what my aliens looked like are the ones that the nurse at Roswell 1947 crash drew for mortician Glen Dennis.

The big puzzle is my little guys had rectangle eyes.

I am not sure if this was not some kind of head gear, or if their eyes were really rectangle.

The eyes is what gets you, dark, deep, and cold.

Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by hyundisonata on Nov 14th, 2012, 05:34am

The trouble with alien reports is that they normally follow the Hollywood syndrome; they are either portrayed as naked or wearing Lycra t shirts and trousers as in star trek. Look at the reality of ET, here we have a being on a strange hostile corrosive planet, then just assume if you went for a walk on Venus in the same attire , not a nice scenario. These guys use suits just as we would do only they do not conform to the NASA image of a space suit , they have their own design and material that would dictate they found the best answer for what they have to endure. Hence the dark eyes different shapes, no different from an astronaut wearing sun glasses or using a tinted visor.
Re: Aliens: What do they look like?
Post by PowerKnight on Nov 14th, 2012, 09:49am

Could any alien female species beat our hom