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Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by B J Booth on Apr 14th, 2003, 3:48pm

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:28pm

Hey Timetraveler, How does this all fit together?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:43pm

I`ve got to say this and for goodness sake don`t anyone take offence BUT, I just cannot get an angel on where ufo`s and angels fit together, so hopefully Irwyn is going to set me right. I`m open to anything and will take part in this topic. Thanks to Irwyn. P.S. I got your book and this might give me a headstart against the 2 lads here. Nice to have you on board.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:52pm

No headstarts allowed! LOL! I'm ready.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:56pm

Hey everyone, this guys got 5 replys already and he has not wrote anything yet lol grin. and thats not fair H.J. you know I need all the headstrts against you and Backlit I can get winklol
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 16th, 2003, 2:03pm

Hi Time!

Yes, what the grays do seems like a psychic mind control. Yes some of the options you mentioned are possible explainations for a saucer to disappear. Either I guess, or neither could explain what happened in the silos. I suppose you are saying that because there is possibly a psychic aspect to UFOs, we should include angels and spirituality in their discussion? Correct me if I am wrong in this interpretation.

HJ

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 17th, 2003, 09:05am

Back to H. J.; I do not intend to make this board a religious or even a spiritual forum. I believe that psychic should be accepted by the scientific community and explored to add to our research and tools of understanding. I access the Bible as a book of reference and as a history of ancient times. My contention is that in the ancient times aliens that were extra-terrestrial were called Angels and became part of their history and religion.

There is a story in the Bible about a Hebrew King who was troubled about a coming battle the next day against a superior army. He met two"men" on the road and they assured him that the battle would be won by him. When he looked again they were gone. The next day the invading army was blinded by brilliant light reflected from aluminum colored disks in the sky and they lost the battle.
I am using this story as an illustration to show that UFOs are part of ancient history and that they have intervened in the affairs of man and also that they may have been described as Angels. Thank you for your comments. I hope this clarifies this forum. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2003, 09:19am

During the Cold War the military began a project which they called Stargate. This was a project in which they selected several military personnel with psychic aptitudes or were adaptable to mind control studies. They developed a technique to totally isolate each subject and to create a state of psychic mind control. Each subject was then given a target person or location and the subject would then travel mentally or psychically to the target. The subject would then return and be interrogated as to what he observed. This project is detailed in a book called, "psychic warrior".

In this book is mentioned that some of these subjects when they did their "remote viewing" encountered UFOs. These subjects traveled mentally or psychically, does that mean that the UFOs they encountered were in a mental or psychic or astral plane? Why do you think?

Please share your psychic or paranormal or UFO encounter experiences with us. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2003, 09:39am

I live in southeast Florida since 1991 and the only possible U.F.O. sighting that I have had in Florida was about two months ago when I observed a copper or brass colored oblong or pear shaped metallic object hanging motionless in the sky near my home.

Gulf Breeze Florida which is in the Panhandle section of Florida has the highest number of UFO sightings in United States. Maybe in the future we can have a UFO convention in Gulf Breeze? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 18th, 2003, 10:20am

Hi Irwyn,
I think I read some of that book about Stargate actually. Pretty interesting but I'm not too sure I buy it all. This doesn't mean I don't believe it is possible. Interdimensional could mean nothing more than different vibrational rates as far as I'm concerned. If they can control that, they could pop in and out of our reality. Certainly possible and maybe connected to psychic awareness somehow. More later my friend, I have to go now.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Apr 18th, 2003, 11:35am

I have just been reading a smidgen at what is at the www.wingmakers.com site - starting with the Neruda interviews, and it seemd there is a LOT of knowledge not in the public sector of communications and this has been on PURPOSE to keep people in the dark so that a handful of people can control this planet - (Neruda Interview 1) - has much information on how systems here have been used by the "elite" to control this planet and it's people.

From my own understanding and research: Direct contact is the best for obtaining knowledge. Wingmakers, I feel is a great way to be gathering a context.
I know there are humans that can time travel forward and back (many cultures people's did this) and I have heard it described as going into a time "tunnel" and there are many other kinds of beings there - of ALL kinds of frequency and dimension --- and I don't think they are thought of as "angels" - but if we were to meet them in 3-D we probably would think they were.

I think the Earth is particularly capable of all these dimensions of reality occurring simultaneously - I think it is also becuase of OUR frequency that they are "cloaked". I wonder what our language would be like if we would be able to have the frequency higher here on a consistent basis - changing the very nature of our reality, and expression. That is how I look at it -- it's here all the time - we are just unaware. In becoming more aware, our present context and concepts are just too stifling and enslaving --- and we don't know who we really are because of this.

I believe we are capable and meant to be handling all these higher dimensions and frequencies and we have been "locked" down into DNA patterns to be controlled more easily. I also believe this is changing and that is why they are here. I believe we are being invited to join our intergalatic brothers and sisters and it is there for the asking now - becoming aware of the interference and clearing it. Love is very much the vibration we need to go into to access higher frequencies - we are "equipped" as any other life form - we just not have accessed (only use 5 or 10% of brain, etc.)

I think that is why they said to Irwyn, you are real human being - because he was aware and allowing the current of higher frequencies to lead him and to flow thru him...
I think that was human is - a communication instrument, between heaven and earth - and capable of working in both realms - and do miracles...
Dream, dream BIG - you may be saving the planet.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2003, 5:00pm

To GoldenVoyager; you are speaking my language. All my life I have looked to parents and teachers and religious leaders to give me answers about the meaning of life and my purpose for living. But they could not give me the answers because they didn't know themselves. So then I made contact with a higher intelligence and got my answers directly. I do not go through any middleman. I prefer direct. Somehow, if we raise our consciousness level we magnetize answers. I have gone to the wingmaker's web site and I have found it very illuminating.

I think that there is a lot of truth in the movie, "Matrix". I believe we have been conditioned to "follow the leader" and to obey the dictates of our society. This has kept us in ignorance and made us victims.

An example of this is my own personal experience. I went to Brooklyn College to take a course in English literature. My instructor had five Masters degrees. When we had a class on Dr. Faustus she questioned the class, who had won? The devil or Dr. Faustus? I answered Dr. Faustus and I gave my reasoning. The teacher was speechless because she was not capable of free thought but could only think based on the books that she read. I was very upset and I left that College course because I was disappointed at the limitation of the teacher and the system of education.

I believe that we are all being raised to a higher consciousness level subliminally by the UFOs in order to create a better world. Thank you for your imput. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on Apr 22nd, 2003, 9:46pm

When you are in contact with these beings how do you determine wether they are, for lack of better words, good or evil? What type of information do they impart to you? Do they feel that they own us? Can you contact them at will?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by bluestar on Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:36pm

smileyHi and greetings. I feel you have posed a very interesting and intelligent question.Perhaps we have to know where we are at ourselves,so that we can recognise the aspects in others,angelic included. When we are truly inspired by somthing or someone,our heart centre responds and we seem to have "the knowing" within us of peaceful joy.When that happens we can lovingly challenge any being or experience,because we draw to us those of the vibration of what we have become,and what we aim to be.deepest regards bluestar
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 23rd, 2003, 08:19am

You know, that wasn't really an answer to Backlit's question. It's like saying "you know it when you see it". From what I've seen so far of the "Peace, Love & UFOs" aspect of the subject, I think I'll go talk to Orlando. Sorry, I must be a lost cause.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:09pm

To backlit and all; in my contacts with higher intelligence I experienced nothing evil. They do not own me and I am not their slave. The feeling that I had when I was contacted was the feeling of great respect and awe. These experiences expanded my mind and raised my consciousness.
I cannot consider this evil. I have been attacked many times by evil forces who have taken different forms. In one instance; I had finished doing what I thought was a great psychic reading and I was mentally flattering myself. At this time I was taking a shower in a bathtub at home. All of a sudden I saw at the other end of this bathtub a 6 foot tall reddish cat wearing a tuxedo and standing on his hindlegs like a human. I was being smothered by a heavy smell like sulphur or like the smell of a cat in heat. I was being suffocated and I was having difficulty breathing. As I couldn't breathe and I was afraid that I was going to die I instinctively thought God help me. At that instant the giant cat disappeared and I was able to breathe again. But the horrible smell stayed in my nostrils and in my mind for several weeks after. That was an evil attack.
My psychic and U.F.O. experiences are detailed in my book and from time in these forums I relate stories from my book. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:19pm

Regarding the contacts; sometimes I see a beautiful blue light like a ball of energy in the center of the room and I know that this is not just a ball of energy but it is a living being. Another time when I was at work and I was writing on a white sheet of paper I saw on this sheet of paper a brilliant spark of light that was infinitesimally small and was so bright that it turned the white sheet of paper black. I cannot call these beings to contact me and they somehow chose their own time and place. Does anyone have similar experiences? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:38pm

I just received this via e-mail which because of the length I will divide it into two replies;
UFO CRASHES IN RUSSIAN HARBOR NEAR BALTIC FLEET



April 23, 2003,



KLININGRAD, RUSSIA -- Skywatch International Inc. reports that James L. Choron provided information regarding a crash of an unknown craft on Friday, April 18, 2003. The entire Russian Baltic Fleet and a large number or residents of Kaliningrad (formerly Koenigsburg), a city of over 3 million inhabitants, in the Russian Baltic enclave on the Baltic Sea, watched in awe as a "flying wing" shaped UFO winged over rapidly and plunged into Kaliningrad Harbor at 6:17 PM, local time. The event was caught on videotape by a local RTR Russian State Television news crew, which was present on the massive naval base, filming a documentary segment on the fleet for airing on Russian television. The UFO, described as a "Flying Wing," with two elongated, dome like protrusions on top, and three similar structures, underneath, was over flying the Baltic Fleet. According to a Russian Naval Commander, the craft was apparently caught, accidentally, with in the sweep patterns of ship mounted search radar's, which came on to track it's progress, causing some sort of malfunction which resulted in the crash. "It was traveling at a tremendous rate of speed" he said to RTR reporters, on the scene. "It was very low, not more than 1,500 meters (5,000 feet) altitude, when our radar's came on. It simply winged over, and dove into the water, as if it has lost either power, or control." The light gray colored craft, with no apparent "seams" or rivet patterns visible, was estimated by onlookers to be the size of a small airliner, and traveling at speeds in excess of Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound), was absolutely quiet as it passed, but made a "tremendous noise" as it plunged into the water, causing a geyser of steam and water, mixed with small debris, which shot an estimated 500 meters (1500 feet) into the air.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:39pm

Part two of two;

A civilian onlooker, said, "That whoever was in control of the craft made a deliberate effort to take it away from the naval ships and the shoreline before it went into the harbor." One Sovremini Class Destroyer was lightly damaged by flying debris, but, so far, no casualties have been reported. Radiation levels at the site, are high, but the source of the radiation, as well as it's nature, have yet to be determined. Russian authorities, from the Ministry of Health, are quick to point out that the radiation levels are not dangerous, simply "higher than normal." So far, debris recovered have been small, averaging less than a meter (just over three feet) in diameter, at the largest. Most debris recovered, to date, have been what appear to be "skin material" of an unknown alloy, and interior bracing and piping, composed of a very high grade and extremely pure aluminum. All metal debris have been dispatched to various institutes and universities for analysis, including the prestigious Bauman Institute of Engineering, in Moscow, and the Moscow State University School of Metallurgy. It is considered highly doubtful that any significant remains of crew, if, in fact, the vehicle was piloted, will be recovered. "This looks like your basic 'hair, teeth and eyeballs' situation, one Russian Navy diver said, somewhat grimly. It is interesting to note that, in spite of the high speed at which the craft was traveling, and it's extremely low altitude, there was no characteristic "sonic boom" associated with it's approach, and no noticeable vibration on the ground. This has led many observers, especially those associated with the Russian military establishment to speculate that the propulsion system of the craft was based on some sort of "antigravity" device. "Whatever it was," said one Russian Naval Captain, "it was certainly not one of our craft, and I am also not aware of anything of this sort being present in the West." The immediate area of the crash will be dredged, starting in the next several days.

The entire episode is noteworthy in that it was not only captured on videotape by an RTR news crew, but was instantly aired, not only on RTR, but on all major Russian Network television, via a live feed from the RTR crew, in Kaliningrad. Updates have followed on each regular news broadcast, since the initial downing. Russian Government officials are quick to point out that the downing was, in fact, accidental, and not a "shoot down."

Divers, however, report that the water in the vicinity of the crash is, in fact, noticeably, several degrees warmer than normal. The water surrounding the crash site is, understandably, reported to be "murky" with extremely poor visibility. This leads many of the divers and supervisory personnel to speculate that at least one relatively large fragment might exist. Wintersteel enjoys a very good relationship with the Russian Navy, as well as with the mainstream Russian media, and will be posting photographs of the site, and debris recovered, as soon as they become available. Thanks to Skywatch International and James Chorton, Wintersteel, http://wintersteel.homestead.com/UFO_Crash_Ru.html.

Editor's Note: It seems a crash of this magnitude would be reported world wide. It seems that if we wanted to obtain intelligence on the Russian fleet, satellites would have been used rather than a low flying craft. The Russians and the US are thought to own craft of this description.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:45pm

Addendum to this UFO story;

I seem to recall a UFO sighting a number of years ago in which an observor reported that the UFO wobbled when it came close to a radar installation. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:47pm

Irwyn, please do not take this the wrong way but I feel Backlits questions still have not been answered. I find this an extremley complicated and confussing subject. Is there no easier way of putting this topic. There must be quite a few other people who would like know what this subject is all about. May I also say that if a topic is to confussing or complicated People will just pass it by. Many thanks Irwyn.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2003, 5:25pm

to rob and backlit; I am trying to answer backlit's questions as simply as I can. it is difficult to explain the paranormal. I do not contact these beings by meditation but they do somehow monitor my thoughts so that events happen that seem to be connected to my thoughts. For instance, when I was being developed psychically I would see an advertisement sign in my mind in my room and when I went into the street I would see this same exact sign. This told me that these beings somehow could manipulate time and space.

I came to understand that these beings were in a different dimension but that they could manipulate time and were aware of future events. I do not wish to confuse anybody and if you'll ask me questions I shall try to answer them as clearly and simply as possible. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 25th, 2003, 6:18pm

So what your saying then, is that these Beings are with us 24hrs a day, 7days a week, for eternity only in a different dimension. When they want to communicate they put an advertisment into your subconcious and then you would see this somewhere else. A bit like Deja vous, where like for instance, (and this is true by the way) I saw a picture of an oriental woman in my dreams when I was very young and when I was 18 years old I entered a young ladies house and saw the same exact picture hanging over her fireplace. Had I come to see my future or was it just a coincedence. When I first saw this I said "my god, I`ve been here before", and yet it was obvious I had not, but it was as clear in my mind as though it had only happend yesterday.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on Apr 25th, 2003, 9:53pm

Yes, it is a rough subject that we are discussing because it is not a "nuts and bolts" type of discussion. And some of it goes against our better judgement. But I feel their might be some kind of link here that may be of some use to those trying to pull this whole ufo thing together. While all things discussed might not be all truth, truth might dwell in some of the things discussed. Good golly did I say that! Jeez! Rob I did have a similar experience where I saw a rock being thrown through a window where I work in a dream and the next day when I drove to work it was real twilight zone when I pulled into the parking lot with the police cars and saw the rock on the floor through the broken glass. P.S. HJ, how is Orlando's book coming along?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 26th, 2003, 11:49am

LOL! smiley

I fear that his endeavor shall eventually engulf the whole website! It will slowly, like a giant tree root, invade and crush all storage capabilities available on the server!

Well, so much for the sarcasm. Hello all, the Ultimate Skeptic here! I agree with Backlit, there is a kernel here that is part of the "nuts & bolts" view but I see a problem also. When we view the UFO problem as a whole, we see evidence, real or faked, that we can point to and say "this has weight in the discussion". When we view the problem from a spiritual/ psychical/love/peace/light point of view, what do we have? We have someone's word that it is true and cannot say look "this has weight in the discussion" No offense to anyone and with complete respect, I would say that without something more than a person's necessarily subjective reports of their admittedly mental experiences, serious consideration by serious investigators cannot be expected. For example: A man I knew was suffering from brain cancer. He had miraculously beaten the cancer several times to the astonishment of the doctors. He told me he was visited by an angel that told him he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and would be returning to heaven soon after touching certain lives here on earth. He truly believed it. I didn't, of course being the Ultimate Skeptic. LOL! I was grateful though for the delusion since it made death almost welcomed for him. The point being, he had no proof other than his perceived reality and I had no proof other than his word. If I told you I was actually here on earth to experience corporeal life but really lived in another dimension, I couldn't prove it and you couldn't disprove it but you know what? There would be some people who would believe me.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 26th, 2003, 3:05pm

You guys are rough! Again let me outline my purpose in this topic. I am trying to add new dimensions of thinking and to encourage members to recall incidents in their past that were unusual or paranormal. We cannot have a slide ruler mind that requires physical and tangible proof of UFOs and of life. To answer rob; yes, these beings whether they are angels or UFOs are with us 24\7. They don't sleep. Don't limit them as to how they can communicate. Our limited brains cannot comprehend them. Just be thankful that they exist and that they monitor our lives. Many times to explain I use my personal experiences because I have asked the same questions as you.
Some time ago I had a dream, or vision. I saw on top of a hillock a magnificent black stallion and astride this horse I saw a figure in silver armor and the visor was open. I saw that this being was androgyne and had a beautiful face. This being held this powerful horse in check with a gentle hold on the reins. I felt great love for this being and a sense of connection. As I watched, this being turned the horse around and went downhill and went across the river. I was very sad because I knew that this was my guardian angel and that my guardian angel had left me. But then I received the reassuring message that this angel was assigned to me for a certain series of life's learning and now another guardian angel would take his place.

So we see that we are involved in a cosmic plan of evolution and that we are never alone. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 27th, 2003, 12:15am

Sorry Irwyn. I don't think anyone is trying to make it rough on you. It's difficult to simply accept what you are saying. Yes, I believe you have experienced things but are these things real to anyone but you? You think so but can you prove it in any way? Blind faith produces cult members and I have yet to find anyone on this forum willing to drink that Kool-Aid. Well, rob may take a little sip once in a while. LOL!

HJ wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 28th, 2003, 08:34am

to hjdelight; I see where your coming from. unfortunately I cannot have a camera or tape recorder or an eyewitness with me whenever I experience a psychic event. I do not wish to start a cult and I am describing certain psychic events to show a greater range of possibilities for research and knowledge.

I have had a lifetime of being a psychic so I am familiar with the psychic world. The physical world is very limited, whereas the psychic world is very unlimited. For instance, a "remote viewer" can travel and see locations that have locked doors or that are inaccessible whereas the physical person cannot.

I wonder if a "remote viewer" can be used to see inside a "black hole" or inside the birth of a new star or to check out planets in our solar system?

If we had to verify scientifically, important events and happenings then our history books and religious books would have to be discarded.

Space is not the final frontier, the human mind is the final frontier. I hope I have not lost anybody on this trip. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Apr 28th, 2003, 11:59am

I am not sure how to reply to specific posts here - this is a response to:
hjdelight Reply #27 on: Apr 26th, 2003, 12:49pm //

in all seriousness, a closed, or "serious" mind cannot OBSERVE what is being discussed.

Nevertheless, it is occurring all the time. If you have studied quantuum physics you would learn that Newtonian physics do not apply. Light, approached with the density of a "serious" mind, does not allow that mind to penetrate it.
The mind cannot penetrate light. It can only reflect it. Therefore, there is the aspect of "BEING" it or "ALLOWING". The OBSERVER mind needs to be AWARE. However, FIRST, you need to be AWARE you haver an OBSERVER mind... which is not the limited or "educated" (I prefer the term "programmed") mind.

Mind you, this is a serious subject that must be approached "Light"-ly - in order to learn, you need to be receptive - and even OBSERVE how receptive you are.

It could be you are being monitored by "controllers" that do not want you to have this information and that is why you are not "getting it". The road to Enlightenment is filled with OBSTACLES... to overcome them, you have to inculcate the Divine... and this information is as old as humankind...

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 28th, 2003, 2:00pm

Ok Irwyn, maybe I'm just uninformed on this subject. I can concede that it would be hard to prove that you visit or are visited by the psychic world. That is unless you could get some useful info like stock picks or where I lost my wallet. The bottom line is that you wish me to accept your experiences on face value or am I incorrect?
What I'm saying is this, why should I believe you and not believe my friend who thought he was Jesus Christ? An angel had told him that and he had actually beaten cancer several times in a miraculous way but I still didn't believe him.

Hi Voyager! Thanks for joining in on this! Let's see...I'll take your post point by point. What do I need to have an "open" mind? I'm perfectly willing to experience it. I accept that there is much more than what we perceive or imagine around us. Science actually has taken us to a point that suggests this idea. My wife has experienced OBE herself and she is almost devoid of imagination. LOL! I am ready to go.

If you are saying that an educated and curious mind is an obstacle, then I admit to having a problem. grin Seriously though, I don't even understand your reference to light and the density of a serious mind other in the most general sense. Give me some tips and I'll try them out.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 28th, 2003, 8:34pm

To all. Please forgive me but I just do not understand what is going on now. I niether have been, will be or ever join a cult, or even swig a glass of it lol grin. I will continue to look at this board frequently and if there is something I see that I remotley understand I will try to comment. Irwyn, please forgive my ignorance.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 28th, 2003, 8:48pm

Hey rob, it was just a joke. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was poking at you a little to get a rise like friends do. Stick around and discuss the subject. It's interesting.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on Apr 28th, 2003, 10:09pm

I get the feeling that HJ, Rob, and I looking for quantitative answers in a qualitative discussion. Leaving out the spiritual and psychic aspect of this topic, what kind of information do these beings impart to you. Is there any science being related to in your contacts? For example it seems from previous discussion that my understanding of light and yours are somewhat different.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Apr 29th, 2003, 04:48am

I think we are all monitored. Tracking devices we don't even know about. Information taken and statistics about us we don't even know about or even the meaning or usefullness.

If we could see us from a more intergalatic view, I don't think it would be so confusing what is going on here. It is a huge subject. When I first became aware that this was going on all the time, I became very quiet and just watched my thoughts to see more what information could possibly be gotten. From the information I got, there are good beings monitoring and there are ones who want to see the information they are getting smiley

We are a vast unexplored territory. So it seems a bit beside the point to keep saying what is this about. You are what it is about. We think we are alone and we are not. We think we are so smart and we are not. We think we use our brain and - ok, here's a measurable item, we only use 5-10% of our brain. What the heck is going on with the rest and what is it for and why aren't we using it?

I had visions and dreams years ago of how life would be. Noone would believe me but I thought for sure by this time in life I would know a heck of a lot more and I would be able to "think" myself wherever I wanted to go. Instead, this planet is ruled by controllers who just keep people in fear of everything. Even afraid to think! Lord, it must be a cult if people THINK! It must be a CRIME!! Please folks, it really gets old to hear the same little % whine away.

Maybe you all were not motivated to learn everything under the sun that you could when this war started. Maybe you think war is fine and normal. Many of us were pushed by it to search deeply and found religion is a crock. Speeding right along and accepting that, many of us wanted to know why we are led around by all these "authorities" and never use our BRAIN! LITERALY. So this is an important subject because THEY ARE HERE and IT IS TIME and because religion is a CROCK. OK? Many of us want to evolve and USE OUR BRAIN and understand and not stay stuck at square one asking - "well, how do you know?"

again, I recommend you take a look at www.wingmakers.com - starting with the Neruda interviews.
voyager out.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 29th, 2003, 2:19pm

To goldenvoyager; I agree with a lot of what you say. When I was a child my hero was Superman because he had greater powers then an ordinary human and also because he came from an outer space world. I have had many flashbacks of living former lives and some of them were memories of living in other worlds. That is why I can accept reincarnation.
To Rob, H. J. and backlit; I am sorry if I cannot give you the physical, tangible proof of what I say. I find it very exciting to stimulate the minds and imaginations and freethinking process of people. I believe that if we can go beyond the limitations of our structured minds and allow abstract and sometimes intuitive thinking then our rewards would be great. I value your friendships and I am delighted to have your participation in this board. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 29th, 2003, 3:03pm

To H. J. and all; you asked for some tips to help you expand your thinking. When I was teaching psychic development classes I suggest these three exercises.

1. Place a lamp with a 40 watt inside frosted bulb on a table about three feet from where you are sitting. Take the lamp shade off. Stare at the exposed bulb. In about 10 minutes you'll be able to read the 40 watt writing on the bulb. In a subsequent exercise replace this bulb with a 60 watt bulb and repeat this experiment. At the beginning you'll see a blur of light but then you'll feel a movement to the area of your forehead above your nose. This exercise helps to develop your psychic or third eye.
2. Find a mirror in your house in a dimly lit room, stare at this mirror looking at your face at a distance of about 10 inches away. As you stare at your face you'll notice that your face will change in shapes and that sometimes your face will have slanted eyes like an Oriental person. Perhaps this is to show you some of the faces of your past lives?
3. Sometimes when you are intensely watching the television or engrossed in reading a book you might see out of the corner of your eye a black shadow dart across the room on the floor. You might think that it is a mouse but it is not. Somehow the right angle vision of the human eye is able to see things from other dimensions that are moving faster than our own dimension. Try these exercises, see if they work. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Apr 29th, 2003, 6:06pm

Irwyn, we don't all have the same context or expectations; we can only share what is meaningful to us and part of our journey. So I want to post some "context" of how our brothers/sisters on this planet have prepared for these times. First, on the subject of free-thinking:
(example of how free thinking is superior to structured thinking)
What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it, The rich need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?
When asked this riddle, 80% of kindergarten kids got the answer, compared to 17% of Stanford University seniors.
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http://www.newconnexion.net/article/03-03/jenkins.html
Divine Plan and Galactic Alignment
by John Major Jenkins
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http://www.newconnexion.net/article/03-03/hopi.html
Message from the Hopi - People of Peace
Posted: March, 2003

You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell them that this is the Hour.

And there are things to be considered:
Where are you living? What are you doing?
What are your relationships? Are you in right relation?
Where is your water? Know your garden.
It is time to speak your Truth. Create your community.
Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
This could be a good time!

There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and so swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold onto the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.
Know the river has its destination. The Elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open and our heads above water. See who is in there with you and celebrate.
At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all, ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey, comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves!
Banish the word 'struggle' from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.
We are the ones we have been waiting for.
The Elders
Oraibi, Arizona
Hopi Nation

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 29th, 2003, 8:28pm

Thanks Voyager!

Hey I got that riddle immediately. Not bad for a serious, mentally structured skeptic huh? cool I'll check out the links. Thanks.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on Apr 30th, 2003, 01:51am

Traveler, your comments on the fact that things are not as advanced now as you thought perplexes me. Humanity more than likely would be more advanced than it is now if our evolutionary path had been guided along by "others" but that has not been the case for our planet. Humanity will have to make tough decisions about its future. Sometimes the only way to teach a child is to let them fail and hope they understand the error. Religion and war all have some social and societal benifits within limits. Some think that ET's will correct all our past mistakes with higher philosphical views and advanced technology. I do not subscribe to this viewpoint. My opinion is that they will stay away from intervention until we have arrived at some predetermined point in our evolution where we no longer see war as a solution to solving problems. Yes you are right we should be further along and if we don't change we will be in dire trouble ... but change, like evolution, takes time. Voyager, the question "how do you know" is a valid question for anyone to ask. A good answer is "because I have experienced it."
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Apr 30th, 2003, 2:56pm

Backlit, I have shied from simply expressing that because of intimidation and denial I have experienced also. And that is the way the not-so-friendly show up - to keep you from stepping up to the plate. I have found that as soon as I do step up - THEY shy away (different manifestations, still same "operative"). So, Thank you Backlit for the answer to boldly say and keep on the tip of my tongue.

hjdelight - OK! Good on ya!

regarding Backlit's comment: "My opinion is that they will stay away from intervention until we have arrived at some predetermined point in our evolution where we no longer see war as a solution to solving problems. "
I think we have arrived at that point. And while all the permutations of that are too long to explain, the following URL gives a huge overview.
I have been following this website for almost a year (still have not read even half of it). It was because of my own experiences of watching events and players over a 10 year period and having my own perspective that I was able to verify for myself, on a daily basis the NESARA reports there. I realized what the level of integrity I believe is operating there, and therefore I have developed trust in what they are saying and their sources. Their context is still new to me and I read it carefully. This is from the webmaster.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/NESARA/news/State-of-NESARA-04-16-03.html

Irwyn, It has been hugely perplexing for me why we haven't advanced as I have seen in my dreams and known in my soul - often feeling I must have landed on the wrong planet smiley most of my adult life.
Learning about how we are interfered with took a long time to figure out - I was naive for so long. I had an "awakening" not so long ago and it became much more clear to me my purpose here and from a more multidimensional (many time frames and lifetimes gathering) perspective. I felt so deeply grateful in my soul and still do. That is around the time when the information started coming of really seeing more what is going on here, and finally, I could see this is all really for a grand purpose that we are all connected and participants in and being heard here and I just know in my soul, the long awaited dreams are going to be fulfilled. I really resonate with most of the information in that URL (above).
It is still somewhat of a struggle to clear all the interference and totally believe in myself - and at least now, I have much better understanding what I am dealing with on multilevels. goldie.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 30th, 2003, 4:59pm

Thank you GoldenVoyager for that beautiful message from the Hopi Indians. The Hopi Indians say in their legends that they were contacted by UFOs and that there was a covenant made between them and UFOs. I believe there is truth in this. Your thoughts and philosophies are so much like mine.

I remember seeing a vision once where I saw myself as an adult and I was being held on each side by Angels and my head was tightly bound with a white cloth. I was being forced into the birth canal and I was being born under protest. I realize now that I could not choose whether to be born or not and that it was important for me to live this life not only for my own learning but also to work for a greater cause.

I do not agree with backlit regarding the time that the UFOs will appear. The time is now. We are in the end days of this civilization now. They cannot wait for us to destroy ourselves before they will intervene. As the Hopi said in that poem we cannot hold on to the shore but we must go with the flow. This means that we cannot hold on to people or places or things or teachings from the past. We must go to a higher evolution.

Some time ago some idiot scientists decided to see what shape the Earth was, so they detonated a gigantic atomic bomb in the Antartic and they mapped out the vibrations. Had it not been for UFOs intervention the earth would have been knocked out of its axis and all life on this planet would have ceased. So much for scientists. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 30th, 2003, 5:05pm

H. J. would you share your wife's OBE experience with us? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Apr 30th, 2003, 9:54pm

Sure Irwyn,
It was in a hospital. She had undergone a hysterectomy and was recovering. She suddenly found herself floating up in the corner of the room and watching the doctors and nurses work on her body. She was bleeding so badly that the mattress of the bed was saturated. She heard what they said as they frantically tried to stop the bleeding. After awhile she returned to her body but remembered being out of it. I'm the only one she's told because it embarrasses her. I find it fascinating and exciting to know someone so well that has experienced such a thing.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on May 1st, 2003, 11:41pm

I don't understand her embarrassment. That is such a fantastic thing to have happen under the worst of circumstances. It is a lot to ask and probobly off topic but more detail about her OBE would be great but only if she would feel comfortable about it. One question I have is did she have a feeling of ultimate peacefulness in her experience? I realize people, even your own family , tend to look at you kind of sideways when you relate experiences like this but I have been in a situation where the reality of the experience is almost what you could define as super reality where when you "come back" our reality almost seems unreal. It can be a very traumatic and somewhat dissappointing "returning". I sat around for a whole day before I realized I was back. This reality we are in now was like a dream. I experienced a peace that cannot be defined by any language. Returning was so dissappiointing, I cried. It was that intense.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 2nd, 2003, 07:37am

To tell you the truth, I think she is embarrassed because she thinks it was so weird. She can't conceive that it was a real experience but only a life-like dream. Actually, she would be quite angry if she knew I was even discussing it. But I'll try to get her impressions as to how she felt at the time.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 2nd, 2003, 12:24pm

To HJ; thank you and your wife for sharing that OBE experience with us. What your wife experienced was something like astral projection. It was not a cosmic consciousness experience. There is a great difference. I am asking backlit if he would please share his OBE experience with us.

Backlit was correct in what he was saying. When you have an experiences like that it is a different kind of reality. It makes this life reality seem like a dream, unreal. It is very painful and difficult to come back to this life when you have had a different dimensional experience. But you are forced to return here because you life is not over. Let me illustrate the difference between an OBE and a cosmic consciousness experience using my own real-life experience.

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I laid down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.

I appeared to have what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape. I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The floor consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard, eyesore of black rule of high-end fence at least 12 feet high.

I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane. I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream. Then the strong wind knocked the dream figure down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.

At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher entity overseeing this entire experience. As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull. When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul home to its source.

At this instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw me toward this beautiful ecstasy. At this time I had no thought of anything on this earth, not my mother, father, family, or the friends. Only the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force. Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it entered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.

During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and soon I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements. I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 2nd, 2003, 12:46pm

Addendum to the above; I forgot an important piece of this experience. When I had that overwhelming feeling of love and connection, for a few seconds I became one with the universe and I knew everything. Also, this feeling of love transcended any earthly feeling of love such as love for a mother or sibling or child or mate. It cannot be compared to any earthly love as we know it. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 2nd, 2003, 12:51pm

Please forgive my spelling errors but I am using Dragon voice activation system and I'm disappointed that it is not too accurate. Sorry, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 2nd, 2003, 2:31pm

That was a fascinating dream. Would you say it was a religious experience? My wife experienced no change whatsoever in her attitudes so I can see the difference from what happened to you.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 3rd, 2003, 3:02pm

To HJ; that experience which I related was primarily a consciousness-raising experience as well as a spiritual enlightenment. I've always been curious regarding who I am, where I come from and what was my place in the universe. During my life I've had past life memories and some of them involved existing in other worlds and other dimensions. I've always wanted to go home and I knew that this planet was not my home. Sometimes I have recalled some past lives by events that happened in this life. For example;

I saw a movie in which an Arab was buried in the sand and honey was smeared on his face and red ants ate him up alive. I was very disturbed when I saw this and I remembered that this happened to me in a past life also. I saw a different movie in which a knight in armor in England was abusing people and raping women. This also upset me and I remembered that I had been like this in a past life. These past life memories stay with us and they are embedded in our subconscious memory and sometimes they pop out.

I also remember that there was a laboratory type room and I saw what looked like a large console type TV and the screen was giving off a purple color light and I knew that if I looked at this light my entire mind would be drained from me. I knew that this was a past life memory from an outer space war in a different world.

Most of my U.F.O. and psychic experiences as are related in my board are described in my book entitled,"the soul is a traveler in time"which is available for sale at a member reduced price. If you're interested contact me at; ircon1@adelphia.net. Thank you for your input, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on May 3rd, 2003, 3:58pm

HJ, no need to get the wife riled up at you over this. Don't want to wake up one day without a modem do ya? grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 3rd, 2003, 7:19pm

Or something more important! LOL!

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 6th, 2003, 2:29pm

Will somebody please tell me what LOL means?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 6th, 2003, 7:52pm

Sorry...it means "Laughing Out Loud". It's like a smiley face really and helps keep things from being taken wrong.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Backlit on May 6th, 2003, 10:09pm

I Know a person who is a bio engineer that believes in channeling spirits and such, but when it comes to the topic of UFO's the subject is disregarded as not worthy of discussion. I'm confused at her attitude toward the subject. It is like having a half open mind about things. How can you believe in one and not even consider the possibility of the other? By the way... tornadoes ain't cool.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on May 7th, 2003, 04:57am

Irwyn. so you are saying that these feelings of having seen a certain object or person before, that we call "De Ja Vous" is something to do with past lives that we have led. Backlit, I know a few people like that, good people but one minded. I try to get them to open their minds to other things but its like hitting my head against a a brickwall, but when I say I do not understand where they are coming from they do not like it. Very selfish I think but thats life is it not. Another human trait.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 7th, 2003, 08:42am

Well said rob. I've seen it also, where people pick their pick and that's the subject that they believe in, dismissing anything else quickly. This board is a good example. Many people believe in angels but won't consider ufos or aliens. This can be vice versa also of course.

Opinions are like *****, everybody has one. But an open mind is a rare thing that should be valued and cared for.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 7th, 2003, 09:04am

To HJ; And here I thought that LOL means lots of luck.

To backlit; I'm very surprising at that engineer. The UFOs technology will rewrite all the books of science and physics. This is the greatest opportunity for mankind to go to a new level of technology. It seems as if his attitude is like tunnel vision. I am more afraid of tornadoes then I am of hurricanes.

To Rob; my feeling is that when you see a person for the first time and you don't like them this is triggering off a memory from a bad encounter in a past life. Conversely if you like a person at first sight this is a happy memory from a past life. It seems that first impressions are very accurate. This is a simplified explanation. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 7th, 2003, 09:30am

"Fasten your seat belts, this is going to be a bumpy ride".

Many UFO researchers believe that the "greys" are sentient, biological life forms. I do not believe this. I believe that we're dealing with artificial intelligence constructions. The proof of this is overwhelming. They do not eat, they do not excrete waste products and they do not exhibit any of the normal life functions of biological creatures. They are very curious about our emotional responses and I believe that they are programed to allow them to learn and to absorb whatever they see and experience. I believe that they are a very sophisticated and advanced example of AI, artificial intelligence.
Their feet do not touch the ground, they have no fingerprints, they do not speak and they communicate with mental telepathy and mind control. They appear to have a special power in their eyes which controls people and their environments.

I believe that these constructions are designed to perform space exploration, research and other duties and were manufactured to perform tasks. Who or what manufactured them? Who are their masters? What do you guys think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 7th, 2003, 2:03pm

How provocative Irwyn! Yes, everything you say about the Greys is correct and I think your assumption of what they are is correct, at least within our experience. I'll go one step further and present my pet theory. This is that they are time travelers sent by a future (probably) civilization to accomplish some task. Who knows what task it could be but it probably involves genetics. Could the psychic world tell us what they are about?

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 12th, 2003, 1:12pm

H. J.; man your mind is a beautiful thing. I like the way you think. If we wanted to send space explorers to other planets or other solar systems or even other dimensions we would construct artificial beings similar to the greys. They are the perfect choice because they do not eat, drink, or perform any biological functions. Therefore they require very little maintenance. They are programmed to perform certain tasks and they are capable of thinking and reacting to a certain extent. Also they are dedicated to their function. I would prefer to describe them as artificial intelligence technicians.
I believe that you are correct in your assumption that they are primarily involved in genetics. The human genetics are obsolete and like a computer hard drive have become corrupted. Therefore the genetics have to be altered. I believe that we are witnessing a melding of two different genetic codings that combine emotions and sensitivities of the human being and the mental abilities, consciousness and psychic abilities of an advanced civilization. I believe that this is an alternative to the destruction and elimination of the human race. The awesome powers that the greys demonstrate that seems to come from their eyes I believe is part of the genetics package that we will inherit. Goodbye to anthropoidal man! Hello to Superman! Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 12th, 2003, 2:16pm

Thanks for the compliment. It could be that we are being interbred with. Many of the abduction stories told would tend to confirm it. But wether it is for our benefit or theirs remains to be seen. They show us little compassion while doing their work but that could just be their mechanical nature. We will see I suppose.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 12th, 2003, 2:24pm

I have to say I disagree with you Irwyn and believe the greys are hostile towards the human race and are sent by the "controlling" Reptilians - to monitor us and keep our DNA - dampened down - and to give us the A.I. "messages" it wants to use to control us - think poorly of ourselves, etc.

In short, they are INCAPABLE of love and therefore their technology will become null and void in the future of humankind.

We have had ENOUGH of this enslavement and the dark agenda is being wiped of the Earth plane by the benevolent Forces of the Creator - whose WILL WILL BE DONE ON Earth!!

The VAST INTERFERENCE of these controlling manipulators will be getting cleared and THIS, THIS ALONE - will be how we will evolve into "SUPER".

It will be done with the HIGH FREQUENCY of LOVE!!! <b>NOT</b> with the INSIPID MANIPULATIONS of "technology" which have ALWAYS been without love. WHICH HAS FAILED!! BIG TIME!!!
There will not be MORE manipulating God's Creation.

LOVE! Is the new technology - the HIGH FREQUENCY of LOVE - Raise your FREQUENCY - This is what has ALWAYS been missing in the interference with Earth humans. EVOLVE or DIE!!!

Creator GOD is in charge here and did not make a mistake. The "mistake" has been all these power-hungary invaders - convoluted VALUES about Human Life! I really get tired of the viewpoint "humans are a mistake". This is a very limited perception in my view of the HUGE, HUGE, HUGE process that is evolving here. Planet Earth and the divine human race are a GEM! of the Universe! Why do you think we have been fought over for so longhuh I am getting very emotional here because this is so HUGE and being approached with a very old, and limited view. Apologies if you are offended.

This is PRECISELY why, imo, we have a problem - people do NOT see God in humanity - that is a PROBLEM!! in the Universe!
Personaly, I think your past lives are dictating your view - this has been tried, ad naseum, already!!
IT HAS FAILED!!

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 12th, 2003, 2:35pm

H. J.; I don't believe that the interbreeding as you call it is the benefit of the UFOs. They're already demonstrated that they do not need us to function or to survive. Suppose we change our focus of thinking. Instead of looking for answers with some universal omnipotent deity that has no form or shape or identity and is beyond comprehension, what if, we are dealing with the architects that designed us who are now looking to redesign us as an improved generation? What if, the Angels that are recorded in ancient Bibles and religious texts are UFO beings? What if, these UFOs have the answers to who we are, who created us, and where do we go from here? This is something to think about. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 12th, 2003, 6:45pm

goldenvoyager, I wouldn't judge your beliefs by being offended by them. They are your obviously sincere beliefs and you are entitled to them. Tell me more.

timetraveler, but what if they (greys) are the instruments of our future? What they do here would certainly benefit them or their masters in the future, perhaps save them. Wouldn't that be plausible since it seems our scientists are beginning to accept the possibility of time travel now? Perhaps, if they are truly alien but somehow able to mix with our genetics, they need something from us (like emotions) that they want or need. I can see many scenarios that would benefit them and simply annoy us. But I can see it reversed also so it proves nothing. We simply don't know yet and our assumptions are entertaining but lack solidity. Without proof, we can believe what we want about it.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 13th, 2003, 03:29am

Irwyn, I think the concept of an "omnipotent"... "answer"... has been the premise of MUCH manipulation already. That is what I perceive as "holding on" to an old viewpoint. Since the beginning, this is all we were to those who came, the "gods", we were manipulated to do their work here - we were, and to THIS DAY! - their slaves! We have to be DONE with this, imo.

The returning "creators", or manipulators, have ALSO learned that IT DIDN'T WORK - because it was without LOVE! Now, the GOOD returning ones are only trying to help by keeping us from warring - WITH OUR PERMISSION! - We have voted - AS A PLANET - and they have these statistics. So we have ASKED for help, and they are ALLOWED to do so. They are ALSO warring with the not-so-good returning ones.

It really comes down to the bottom line here - LOVE really is the only way to win the war between good and evil. EVERYONE is learning that here. They are and we are. In this sense, we are equal to god - and have to come more and more into this perception of equality and immense gratitude for this Creation - IF Earth is going to continue. LOVE is the GLUE.

I do, and we have, within us, the ability to KNOW GOD. This is still the slowest, densest reality - 3D. What I believe, what resonates with all my experience and research and understanding (and pain), is that the Earth itself is evolving, and we either evolve also or we are out of here. To move to the 4th dimension and higher, we are being pumped with high frequencies, and this is why the days seem to zip by. This is the technology to flush the lower frequency manipulators! So we either get with it or we are flushed.

I don't know how much we here understand DNA; my understanding is that the greatest way we have been manipulated has been to dampen down our DNA. This is done right here - thru all kinds of controls and accepted structures of "reality" - perception is reality - t.v., little decisions that have huge impact on our governance and on and on... all this effects our abilities to access our own system. Raising the frequencies and reconnecting DNA - switching on the codes, and being ABLE to hold a higher frequency, is how I believe it is being done. If people are locked into their patterns - they will be getting very depressed because they are not connecting with these frequencies that are switching on the DNA - lighting up (i believe even more strands). I have never tried to articulate this - but another way to look at it is raising the kundalini energy. We are getting turned on, and those who want to still be negative and warring will not be able to stay in the frequencies here. Earth is evolving, with or without us. So this is all Perfect - all learning, of what works and what doesn't. And our "creators" are here for their own evolution as well, better believe it. They messed up the first time and left a mess and it had to wait till we are like mirroring what they did here that they come again. But they are NOT in charge here. They are here for the learning - to help, and are very powerful in the help that they are giving. You won't read about it until ... the time is right and I think it is soon.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 13th, 2003, 9:18pm

H.J.; I think you are on the right track when you state that they are very interested in our emotions. They mirror our emotions and we mistakenly think that they are emotional, but they are absorbing our emotions into their own chemistry. I do not believe that they are a dying race or that they need to interbreed with us for them to survive. They don't need us, we need them. They have a mission to bring us into a fourth and fifth dimensional world. It appears as if they are responsible for our welfare. Supposing we represent a threat to ourselves and our solar system and the universe in general. Supposing we are so technologically advanced that we have the capabilities to not only destroy our planet but in the process pollute and negatively affect our solar system.
This cannot be allowed. We're not the only lifeforms in our solar system and there are beings who live in existence in other dimensions who would be affected by our self-destruction. Therefore a higher intelligence that has the authority must intervene. Ergo,U.F.O.s.

GoldenVoyager; your thinking is similar to mine, except for your insistence on love as a panacea to save mankind. If you read my cosmic consciousness experience you can see that I experienced love in that experience however it was such an unearthy type love that it defies description.
I am tired of using catchwords like God to explain everything and anything. I have lived too many lifetimes to hide behind meaningless words and titles. We are fortunate to be living in this time because the answers are right here and we finally are able to communicate with these higher intelligences.

I believe that the abductees have the ability to read the minds of the greys even as the greys are able to read their minds. I believe the U.F.O.s want us to know more in order for us not only to raise our technology but to expand our minds. I believe this is part of their mission.
I also believe that the Roswell crash was not an accident but was premeditated in order to give us research material and to jumpstart us in a new direction. What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 13th, 2003, 10:59pm

I ask this respectfully. On what do you base your belief that they don't need us and that we need them? As far as I can tell from the reports, it could be either way. Your scenario of we being a danger that has to be controlled is without any basis that I know of other than a continual theme propogated since the sixties. The Big Brother aspect to aliens and ufos has been done to death, with them wanting to save us from ourselves and protect the universe. While we are at it, how do you know there are other planets with life forms in the solar system? Well, I won't go on since I've probably offended you but I do think it's important to stick to the facts. But, then again, maybe I'm on the wrong board. wink I should be on the "ultimate skeptic board"! grin

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 13th, 2003, 11:43pm

hj - that question is valid and valuable - and if it is deflected again...

It's not easy to communicate with you Irwyn. If I use other contexts other measurements - you can always find ways to poo-poo and deflect away any value - touting your frame of reference as the only valid one. so the word love has a meaning. if i use frequency or any number of other systems' ways to measure or calibrate ... you have a problem with all of it i think. yet, the real problem, i think, is your inability to value human experience. in that regard, you emulate the values of the enslavers of humanity and they are leaving this plane - as they do not love.

I feel sorry for you Irwyn, that you THINK you are only capable of experiencing love in a dependency with a ufo. if I had experienced my awakening in that form - i would have contemplated it a long time (as i do my awakening experiences) to come to understand that i could not have experienced it if i were not capable. i would understand that "it" did not occur outside of myself but inside and therefore i had all the equipment.
i was not a "mistake".
and the purpose of the experience was to teach me because i had such a deep sense of unworthiness and god was kind enough to deliver to me in a form i would accept. apparently, this is the only form you accept love and therefore haven't learned the lesson being taught - only developed an eternal dependency-craving to experience again - never once considering you may be the source - meanwhile, brain capacity stays the same... and so it goes.

but you made your point - "communication is everything" and "love defies description".

i do not have a problem with god - only with people with 1/20 to with 1/10 of a brain who put god outside themselves - who want to make others responsible and are eternally looking to some other form to save them. that to me is the problem. it was why religion was invented to control the masses. apparently, very successfully. so maybe you do want to start a cult.

i tell you what - you could have a million communications and experiences back to back and never get it that you are the one. and that was the only reason you had the experiences in the first place.
so i would say you didn't get the message.

i'll stick to my journey of equality and love and being god here on earth - good luck.
goldenvoyager out.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 13th, 2003, 11:58pm

Is it getting warm in here or is it just me?

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on May 14th, 2003, 05:21am

WOW!
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 16th, 2003, 5:32pm

Wow also; it looks like I am under attack on several fronts. I am not offended by other thinking or opinion. If anything I welcome the exchange. I am sorry if I seem too entrenched in my philosophy and I do not mean to denigrate the human being and exalt the U.F.O.s. My basic thinking is that everything is for a purpose and that we benefit from our life experiences. My teachings are different from the Orthodox and I do not wish to put them on anybody. I do not wish to start cults and I am merely interested in stimulating thinking, imagination and free thought. I do not mean to dodge any questions but I do not wish to have this board involved in religion or politics.
You're telling me that I am coming on too strong, so I will lighten up. There is no doubt in my mind that these UFOs need us to benefit them. However the vast gap between their technology and ours is impressive. I do not believe that the reptilians have enslaved us or that they wish to enslave us. If that were the case how could we stop them? When we fired our latest star wars missle at one of the U.F.O.s it stepped aside and let the missile pass, like a matador letting the bull go by. This was documented on video that was shot by one of the astronauts. I have the VHS tape home. How could we defend ourselves from them if they were our enemy? But again I apologize for coming on too heavy. I enjoy your comments. What do you guys think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on May 16th, 2003, 7:02pm

Hey Goldenvoyager, don't run off! This forum gets into some touchy areas but I still want to hear what you have to say. If we all thought alike here no one would learn or formulate new ideas on the subject at hand. Remember most of the things discussed are not science and cannot be proved. If things get a little heated step back and realize the overall context of the situation. Take it easy on each other... I should talk huh.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 16th, 2003, 11:19pm

Good advice and basically what I have learned on this site. Mutual respect and an open mind are important tools to be used in seeking the truth.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 17th, 2003, 01:05am

Ok, Backlit, because you asked - here's what I have to say. (I am not a "joiner"-type tho, fwiw.)

Irwyn said: "I do not believe that the reptilians have enslaved us or that they wish to enslave us. If that were the case how could we stop them? When we fired our latest..."
I don't know about anyone else, but i tend to think anyone who believes this is either very late for the party or an instrument...

it is not obvious reptillians and weapons walking around (there are good reptillians too) - so you will not necessarily read about that if you are on the lookout reading about aliens... but, as I said, the greys are their friggin mind controllers - and they work long distance, cross-lifetimes, 24/7. Once you are on their radar (I am) they are always trying to interfere and trying to keep you from any leadership or influence - because you threaten their plan for control.
(as an aside: i had a dream in '83 about these beings with crystal eyes (no soul) that would try and get you to look at them to suck your soul out of you. I just knew if I kept my eyes shut and not look at them (it was hard, because of the pull, fear and mind-control) and STAY INSIDE myself, i would not get sucked - literally. When I thought I could not stand it any longer - the scene changed to color and it was INCREDIBLE - it was FREEDOM!! and everyone was just in nature again and just in love with LIFE!! it was INCREDIBLE fast change - I think it was prophetic dream and advice, anyway I am certainly glad i had it - more prepared and know the story ends "happily ever after smiley")

psyops are not obvious - do you think they operate in the light of day? Do you think they announce their intentions? and would you kill off all your slaves right away? doesn't sound like a sound fiscal plan - until the day it is. No, instead we have levels of sophistication from the ufos, down thru CIA, and government - this is really beyond words - "defies description".

Second, I do believe that there is the war plan of the goal to kill somewhere around 98% of the world's population. something like that - so that is a bit beyond most people's imagination - yet what is behind all the fear and psyops operations used on Americans to take away the Constitution, t.v. propaganda, internet disinformation and agents, etc.. So the enemy is very much within here.

The enslavement goes back to the beginning of recorded history - and I use no religious references as Irwyn does to site the ways humans were "shocked" and "awed" etc.

The books by Zecharia Sitchin - notably, 12th Planet, has a lot of his work on connecting the dots between cultures, archeological findings as he is the foremost translator of Sumerian text and very much on the trail of every piece of evidence - even those that get confiscated by gov't/CIA and those with special interests. Religions and evolutionists alike do not want the general populace to read Sitchin and like the CIA and other controllers do - they deflect any value of his work. But that is why it should be on everybodys kitchen table.

(part 1 of 2)
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 17th, 2003, 01:08am

So as much as noone "wants" this to be political - it is anyway smiley ... Today we have AIDS, SARS - these are from laboratories, also anthrax and HUGE storages of WMD - nerve gas, tons of stuff here in everybody's backyards right here in usa; do you really think these reptillian stooges are not just itching to use this stuff? These are the weapons of the reptilians and our government are their puppets, as are most world leaders world-wide.
we have the war in Iraq, like the other American wars of the last half a century, do not even have a short- term benefit. On the other hand, the damages are all apparent, with the human suffering, before and during the war; the destruction of the UN; the theft of oil and other resources and the pillage of Iraq, by "who knows who".
After 36 years of occupation it should be totally clear that the Middle East needs a just peace, or there will be no peace. The combination of the people in power in Israel and the US have no such values to contribute. Hundreds of military officers and expert journalists, have come to the conclusion that it is an intended policy of the Israeli government to provoke Palestinian violence, whenever it senses a political process that may threaten the continuation of the occupation and the settlements. More than half the Jewish population of Israel - 53 percent - is opposed to full equal rights for Israeli Arabs, according to a survey conducted last month by the Israel Democracy Institute.
Iraq is occupied and its people and its resources are treated like the Wild West, with total impunity. What is going on in Iraq (and in Afghanistan and Palestine for that matter) is against every international convention, and exceeds the horrors imagined when such conventions were formulated.
Is there a link between scientific progression, and the development of weapons of mass destruction?
There can be absolutely no doubt that science has been directly linked to weapons of mass destruction for at least two centuries. But the responsibility has become much more acute since the development of nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Today this problem is particularly grave because every aspect of existence has become a weapon, not only physics.
Chemists are working on ever more powerful bombs; biologists on mutated species and weapon viruses; engineers and physicists on guided systems and space control; information science and mathematics on controlling international communication systems; the social sciences on providing ideological cover etc. etc.. This globalization of scientific application is pushed and sold the world over, by the US. By now even the most abstract and naive line of research is required to be described, in the grant proposals, as potential application-oriented.
A country that could not launch even one bomb on massive concentrations of an invading army was considered a threat by a power that claims to dominate the entire information space of Iraq, from satellites to overflying planes. It is really a crude joke, had it not implied such a human and institutional disaster.

the insanity can indeed be called "reptillian" - controlling minds and lives of the human race. fear keeps the energy of people calibrating at a lower frequency and easier to manipulate. love would totally expose and disable them.

i think minds expand thru awareness of what is true - not fascination with imagining "power" weaponry.
- to each their own; i find it an inferior way to approach the enemy. the enemy has been here since the beginning -
i think what souls might find difficult to imagine is, what would the human story be about without them...

We do have the returning ones who are fighting them - there are massive amounts of starships right here now fighting (and winning) this war with them.
They are the ones returning who had a nuclear event here in the beginning - they messed up in a power-struggle then, with each other, and this 3-d planet has been about controlling humans and power struggles ever since.
They are here because Earth and humanity, are moving into the 4th dimension - noone gets there without love... (just the way it is Irwyn)
it is not I who think it is a "panacea". that's sounds like a religious view, imo not a scientific one. There are many different scientific systems all correlating about this; measurable, correlating and confirming this information.

History will be rewritten to reflect the truth about the human story soon. Maybe even the next generation will find it hard to believe humans killed each other - hard to believe, but it can be that fast - that is how close we and they are here. we are altogether here. and yes, the inventions will be here - AFTER this war is won - not before... This is a battle of Spirit. no war is about the physical - it has always been about mind control and we're upping the ante in this 2nd millenium.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 17th, 2003, 09:36am

Well, I can't say I buy it but it's interesting. Everyone here has their beliefs and ideas about the situation. You seem to have yours worked out quite well. Thanks. smiley

And TimeTraveler, I wasn't attacking you. I was just trying to investigate the basis of your statements. You seemed open to that whereas others aren't. But you are a moving target. LOL! Feelings and beliefs are not acceptable proof of anything except, perhaps, the mind state of the person expressing them.

We, as a group, have only the abduction reports, sightings and perhaps some trace evidence to even suggest that aliens and real ufos exist at all. When we ascribe complete scenarios involving them, based on nothing much more than our beliefs and imaginations, it's fun but useless.

I have dreams too, vivid ones but I don't think they have anything to do with ufos or aliens.

I think the government is involved somehow with it though how, I can only guess. I have only the released and redacted records. I think aliens (for want of a better word) and ufos are here because of the number and quality of the reports, pictures ect. I'm not a skeptic and I'm willing to listen to anything about it but there is a line that's dangerous to cross. The line is where actual evidence stops and imagination begins.


HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 17th, 2003, 11:43am

i would hope at least people are a little familiar with some info like at the site http://www.disclosureproject.org/ before seriously posting to a site that calls itself "ufocasebook" - but you never know...
hj, i don't mind your "objective" view as you don't claim to have any interaction so it is easy to "draw a line". i think it is knowledge that is held in the soul anyway - so no one can talk you out of it - it is experienced, it is soul knowledge and they can know what you are capable of. when the sandline is life and death, your psyche and sensitivity increase to where you must believe in yourself or you are dead. our pop culture allows all kinds of things that are not good for us and our families
- that is where i draw the line.
the more you know, the more you can invite intimidation - so i do appreciate your "objectivity".
in the movie "JFK", when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we've got to start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." this is how they want you to think - it is easier that way.

WMD is a lot of evidence - there is a lot of evidence of what our CIA/government has done to the people of America and the world. there is so much info and evidence now you can hardly walk without tripping over it. and journalists are tools to a vested interest.

having experienced what i have and how i have, has REALLY opened up my insight into all kinds of things that were previously just some interesting story of someone's experience.

i have also received help from people with deep knowledge about this - when i was near death, so i know knowledge exists and they have developed the tools to fight as once your awareness expands, it doesn't shrink-wrap very well. goldenvoyager out.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 17th, 2003, 7:22pm

Thanks and I am familiar with the Disclosure Project.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 19th, 2003, 3:52pm

We have had a lot of activity in the past week. That's fantastic. I welcome all theories, opinions and facts. In the subject of the U.F.O.s it is very important to hear from abductees and persons who have had contacts and experiences with UFOs.
Please share with us any experiences which you have had which may have been psychic, physical or even dreams that have made an impact on you. This is a discussion board as well as a research forum.
GoldenVoyager: I respect your theories and beliefs as I do with all of the contributors to this board. You mentioned a fear dream that you had in which you were afraid to look in the crystal eyes of certain beings who had no souls for fear that they would suck your soul out of your body.
I had a similar dream or vision in which I saw a laboratory type room and I saw against the wall a device that looked like a console TV that gave off a purple color light in its screen. I knew that if I looked at this purple color light my mind and my soul would be sucked into that device.

I did not feel that this was only a dream. I believe that this was a device that actually existed in a past life when I was in an outer space world and at war with another outer space world.
I recall another similar incident which happened in real-life. In the 1970s I was involved in a meeting with scientists and psychics with the "mind control Institute" in New York City. The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were in the power. As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic whowas asked to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival. Then he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my laser weapons at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies. At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me," stop doing what you're doing, your face is turning purple".

It seems as if we each have a collective consciousness that follows us as we reincarnate. What you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 19th, 2003, 4:03pm

That famous psychics name was Ingo Swann and he declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in project Stargate.
I told the director who was Dr.Pierrocus that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 19th, 2003, 4:41pm

FYI; Dr. Pierocus was the MD psychiatrist who was the director of the Bioenergetics institute of New York. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 20th, 2003, 1:13pm

yes, in the dream i had fear, and it was more like a knowing - i was NOT frozen by fear, i was educated by it - i think there is a big difference. i never felt helpless or a victim. i think awareness strengthens us as knowing what is in your perception field makes you equal in combat. (perception field plays a big role in how ufo's were described in the bible). i have found it is the urge to destroy that weakens me - blows my mind and become completely vicimized by it - the enemy is then free to do whatever they want. i am not saying one is not justified to be angry - i have gone thru LOTS of anger since 9/11 and ranted over the insanity and obvious obliteration of peoples' rights and i could go on and on... what has steadied my course is knowledge that all that is happening here in molesting peoples' spirit - and that is where we gather our forces and in our souls stay calm, knowing and holding peace - this is a force that deflects all that is sent to control us, and that is ALL that this is about. I stay in contact daily with those who are communicating about the real war and find synchronicity in my inner experience and what is reported to be happening in these reports.

it is my strong - beyond life and death - belief and love for God (Infinite Intelligence) that has allowed me to take new steps everyday in saying what is true in the face of CIA/FBI--stooges who spook the internet and brainwash people. they have threatened my life and i am still here and as many people that they are trying to brainwash, i have told the truth - brought to light what they are doing and what is really happening and what is suppressed or deflected. really has made me articulate, use words to say what is.

of course it must be knowledge from past lives that drive me yet, it must be articulated - become known - in THIS life; it must adjust to the time we are in, and participate. to hold back - is to hurt yourself, better to risk everything for truth - that is just how i feel... all these centuries, lives, have been for this - that is how i see it. and there is NO MISTAKE who or what we are, all we have learned is preparation for this time where we are moving into no-time of 4th dimension. All those lives, where we died, taught us not to do that again - why i almost died this time, was to transform my beliefs about being a victim in this life, come to see that i do not have to blame myself for mistakes i made - it was for a greater purpose... so i would be ready and have the knowledge and courage to face the enemy NOW - when they are IN OUR FACE!

just as the FBI kidnaps children and turns them into slaves for their dope and sex rings for the "bosses"... the bad ufo's have interbred with humans to accomplish their agendas on earth... like "father", like "son"...
Today I read, those hybriids are being "locked down" and i feel this to be true by what i am able to see about my own life, taking new steps today in articulating to myself what forces have sought to control me (unconscious or not) and what forces have always known me and believed in me (in life itself)... for them i am eternally grateful. no doubt in my mind of the huge interlacing of lifetimes that have built the unconscious - no mistake about it. it is held in the aura and there to access and use.

I heard "project" Stargate ... was taken over by the good returning ones and Intergalatic Forces. and that was why the "shakinaw" plan did not work (and why bush was in a hurry to get to them - why Iraq? that is why). heheheh - they had to come up with plan B - they will never have access to the those Stargates again. DOD is all talk now - and they DO go on - no help from ufo's anymore. we live in the most magnificent time on our beloved planet. It was good you did not get sucked in Irwyn, and that you are here today to share with us... you are on the right team - the winning side.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 20th, 2003, 2:12pm

GV; thank you for your most interesting reply. I have recounted in my book at least 10 incidents where I faced certain death. In each of these instances I was protected and saved by what I would think was my guardian angel or angels. In some of these instances it was definitely an attack on my life by F.O.E.,[forces of evil]. When you are a messenger or worker of the forces of good you can be expected to be attacked by the dark side.
You have brought up a new subject;........TIME
Time is a variable element that is different in each dimension of reality. In our normal lives we live in physical time, which is the slowest. When we dream or die we exist in mental time. Allow me to illustrate;
when I was about 13 years old, I was sitting in an easy chair and my attention was focused on a clock that was on the mantle. The clock said three o'clock and the secondhand was on the 12. Then I went into what I thought was a daydream. In this "dream" I physically saw and "relived" 13 years of my physical life, incident for incident, detail for detail. Events in my childhood that I had forgotten. This was similar to the flashback experiences that a drowning person sees before their eyes. I realized at that time that an entire physical lifetime could be relived or recalled in minutes in mental time.
I believe that these more advanced worlds whom we call UFOs can manipulate time to travel and for other purposes. What say you? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 20th, 2003, 2:15pm

I forgot to mention that this 13 year flashback took 13 seconds on that clock. When I awoke and I looked at the clock and at the secondhand I could not believe that only 13 seconds had elapsed. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 20th, 2003, 3:38pm

Never thought about "UFOs can manipulate time to travel and for other purposes." Now that you brought it up, what comes to mind is that they seem to know "what time it is" here on Earth.

I would tend to think that somehow we are all of "one mind" really, and that being so, some are more able to time-travel in that they can, as you experienced, recall 13 years ... in PRECISELY 13 seconds! that kind of coincidence points to the idea that time is just some kind of joke to be played with...

Perhaps this is part of the purpose for the other 90/95% of our brain. I would rather go for that learning than hang around in fear that has no measurable result ... except to waste time. Time is very precious and may turn out to be a joke when we are able to transcend it. Lots to look forward to.

Some months after I received help to bring me back to life, I was half awake wondering if i was wise to trust that person who helped me. He knew so much about me after I allowed access. Time sort of "stood still" as I saw the same way he had access was the way to be in all time. Hard to describe. I experienced this as my heart opening up and you could know anything and everything - completely out of time, no time - and everyone was in "there". One big heart - all the SAME heart. I called this person to tell them and they said they were thinking of a way to help people access this new dimension and it was really good i picked up on this. After 9/11, the government had him working for them, so all i know is what he told me a month or so after 9/11 - that his work involved the 4th AND 5th dimensions in "catching terrorists".

It seems there is also a Universal mind also and that both are "out of time". I have heard it described in a radio show by Dove, who reports on NESARA, that time is not linear and how after NESARA we will learn that (and that may be why in my dream, when everything changed to color - why it was incredibly FAST the changes here on Earth, psychologically and emotionally and spiritually). So, yes, it seems ones are here from our future and how else could our Earth-ship be guided and not be destroyed? So i accept this as logical and truth, yet i cannot see how time "travels" or is manipulated. I just feel in my heart and it feels good and safe; my mind is another "dimension" i do not see how we access all-time... yet, to travel. Maybe we have to be of "one mind" first... just a thought.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by B J Booth on May 20th, 2003, 11:11pm

Hey folks, some very interesting discussion here. Someone like me could get a bloody nose, LOL.

The UFO Casebook has provided this space for exactly the kind of discussion that we have here. No one needs to be offended. I know how difficult it is to show patience and understanding when one feels that they are right about something, and others disagree and just won't be budged, but hey, if we all went to a board where everyone thought exactly alike, that would be kind of boring, and certainly no one would learn anything new, or be exposed to an alternate view.

Although the UFO Casebook and the Forum are supported and payed for by the same supporters, they really serve two different agendas. The Forum is for open discussion, the mainframe of the website is not. If surfers come to the site and see information they do not believe is true, they just won't come back, and they have that right. Those who come here also come freely, but are allowed to express their own opinions. That is exactly what we have accomplished I believe.

So keep up the lively discussion, just no bloody noses!

B J
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 22nd, 2003, 6:07pm

Consider this; in the book written about Betty and Barney Hill regarding their abduction Barney Hill stated that he had no intention of taking that particular route but he took it anyway. It seems to me that the UFOs are able to either predict where someone will be or to control that someone to make them go where they want. This is a frightening form of control.
I also see by the accounts of the abductees that although they were abducted as adults that recall usually under hypnosis that they were also abducted as children. I do not believe that these abductions are random. I believe that these certain people are selected because they fit certain criteria. I also believe that when they are abducted as children that their genetic coding is altered. The UFOs abduct these same people throughout their lives.
What is your thoughts on these matters? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 22nd, 2003, 6:13pm

About three months ago I had a very disturbing experience.
I was sitting on my easy chair in my living room and I was relaxing. I was idly looking across the room. Halfway across the room my vision saw what appeared to be the end of this dimension, as if there was a separation in my vision of the room. It was very frightening to me and I momentarily lost my perspective. I do not take drugs and I'm not subject to hallucinations. Did anyone have a similar experience? Can anyone offer an explanation? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 22nd, 2003, 9:49pm

To H. J.; I'm glad you're still hanging in there. I appreciate your candor and I respect your need for provable facts. This is a forum of individual opinions and theories and beliefs. I do not believe that any higher or more advanced race is looking to enslave us. Neither do I believe that the FBI is kidnapping children.

I'm trying to encourage reaction to some of the things which I am saying. I realize that many of my experiences are personal and cannot be shared or believed by some people. I shared them with this board to solicit reactions, theories and opinions. I also wanted people to know that reality takes many forms and should not only be measured by a ruler. Thank you for putting up with me and my experiences. What are your experiences? Would you share them with us? Glad to have you aboard, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 22nd, 2003, 11:44pm

LOL! wink Ah Irwyn, you are true to form and I mean that in a nice way! I have no real experiences to speak of. In my childhood I had a terror experience that was a product of my imagination and in my teens I think I saw several ufos in daylight. They were reported in the newspaper as traveling daily across the mountains north of where I lived so I waited for them one afternoon. This was in Southern Calif about 40 years ago.

I understand that there probably cannot be proof of something that happens outside this reality and I do not totally dismiss the possibility of it happening. But, on the other hand, to develope scenarios, plots and characters in this other reality and accept them as easily as if they existed in this reality, seems delusional. Sorry, perhaps my view is too rigid. It is my view though.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on May 23rd, 2003, 12:36pm

I must say hj - you and backlit make the team for "whip and carrot" patrol of the board LOL!!! You get the prize - for the one who spends the most time, posts the most, saying nothing, doesn't believe in anything here, and would rather read and post here where people speak of their experiences than actually find out some facts about the stuff you do read here. What kind of person spends their time like this? I am not sure what you are contributing - but you could join a "whip and carrot" duo if you haven't already! LOL!! FBI is good at that too! LOL!!

I must say this stuff is hard enough to talk about and it is a gift to share to the board. But hj- you are waayyy too off-base for more to deal with! talk about crapola sundaes - LOL!!! I am sensitive and will NOT share with the insensitive - that's my perogative - and I will NOT stick around disrespect - and THAT you have shown me.

As far as "gentleness" and sensitivity - I began to see this as a place where people with undigested experiences come and I would end up being a therapist LOL!! - or we would all be sort of therapists. LOL!! So what are you hj? Do experience patrol gaurds have sensitivity? or do you fancy you are watching the "inmates" of an asylum? LOL!!! So you "saved me" from getting involved and this is good; I DO have better things to do with my TIME!

Just what ARE you doing here? I really don't want to know - it is a little bizzare what you say for me too, as apparently, it is OK for humans to be abducted by ufo's in hj's book - this he accepts as ok - but the FBI abduct kids? This is beyond belief for him! LOL!! I'd have to say to you hj - WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON? LOL!! And as far as sensitivity goes - where is that at in that you are so calloused that it is acceptable and you don't have to look into it? I would say you also have the gentleness of a patrol gaurd - taking orders from somewhere natch. So keep up the "good work" and you can have your board back - it's ALL yours. You get kudos for fear and control;"whip and carrot". experience, 0.

over and out.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 23rd, 2003, 4:56pm

To HJ; why do you doubt that experience that you had as a child with that UFOs sighting even when the newspapers reported it as a real thing? Learn to trust your own self. Why do you demand such a high measure of proof? Please do not take this as a criticism but merely as an observation. LOL, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 23rd, 2003, 5:04pm

To G. V. and H. J.;
I don't want this board to be a war zone. Everybody has their own belief system, and we may not agree but we should try to be civilized. The important purpose of this board is to share information and experiences in order to try to decipher the mystery of the UFOs. This motive is so important to our civilization that our future may depend on it. Let's be researchers and analysts, and theorists instead of protagonists. Thank you, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 23rd, 2003, 8:03pm

Irwyn, it's probably my fault. I didn't need to express my views so harshly and usually don't. Ahh...if I were to make an excuse, it would probably be that I had had a couple drinks....or that it was my otherself (either one). cheesy I feel bad and would end it all but they don't let me have sharp objects in here. wink

They were my views as I said but putting myself in an experiencer's shoes, my post would be offensive I think and maybe it would be offensive to anyone so again, sorry. Part of it was lame humor and part serious.

Ok Irwyn...all I really saw was shiny refections of light flying in formation. They looked metallic and could have been planes for all I know but you couldn't tell. I have friends though that have seen legitimate ufos and, of course, my wife's OBE tells me something of that side of things too. I'm open to it Irwyn but I really have swallowing problems when things get further out there so to speak. I've read everything I can get my hands on on ufos but have trouble believing that angels or a psychic world really exists outside of the world we see. I doubt that ghosts exist but a part of me thinks Bigfoot is out there. I think ufos are out there too but I don't ascribe any a motive or mission other than to speculate on it. I have no basis to do so but it's fun. Perhaps if I were abducted or had such a vivid dream I couldn't dismiss it, I would have to change my mind about things. You and GV believe in such things, I think and maybe it's because of experience so I'm outside looking in. I guess I don't see the whole picture.

HJ


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 23rd, 2003, 9:40pm

HJ; I don't want you to feel bad about anything. It is a very frightening thing to believe in other dimensions and other worlds. It threatens the physical reality that we all have to live with. I know how you feel. It took me years to accept my psychic abilities and experiences. I do not find it easy to live in two worlds and not knowing which one is more real. That experience that I had 3 months ago where I saw the separation of this dimension was like falling off the end of the Earth. It is hard to keep your balance when you are presented with alternate realities. Stay with us, we need you, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 23rd, 2003, 11:48pm

Thanks Irwyn. What are the psychic abilities you have by the way? Does it happen all the time or just once in awhile? Why did you think what you saw was the edge of a dimension and not a vision problem or a trick of the lights or a dream?

I am curious but have problems believing it all. I've never seen or experienced anything that would lead me to believe in a psychic world, another dimension, ghosts or anything else like that. I think ufos are real and solid machines that show traits that might suggest a dimensional twist to it all but even that's a leap from the evidence. I like to draw within the lines I guess but I'm willing to think about it and I am looking at Astral Projection. Check out this article if you would and tell me what you think please.
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401a.htm





HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by B J Booth on May 24th, 2003, 2:54pm

To an earlier post:

About the Hill abduction, etc:

You are right about Barney being almost "led" to take another route, and it was like an unconscious thought, but he was subtlely led, and this type of control is almost where I cross my own line of acceptance, but many abduction reports bear this fact out.

Secondly, those who have been abducted multiple times. When this fact first came to my knowledge, I immediately took the stance that they were a bunch of wackos!,, As time has gone by, and I have continued to read and learn, and really put forth an effort to do so with an open mind, I have altered my attitude toward the multiple abductees. We live and learn.

Keep up the good discussion.

B J
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on May 24th, 2003, 9:17pm

Who was the German psychic that Stalin got his hands on after the war? I hear their are some spectacular stories about his abilities.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 24th, 2003, 9:33pm

I never heard of that. Sounds interesting.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2003, 09:56am

To H.J.; I read that article about astral projection and a lot of it is true. But I do not like to mind control and create an astral projection experience. I believe that astral projection occurs whenever there is a crisis and it is an uncontrollable event. Although they used a form of astral projection and mind control although the use of last projection of mind control in the Stargate project there were problems. Some of the remote viewers encountered other beings in the astral plane including UFOs and many of them came back traumatized and mentally and emotionally damaged.
My psychic abilities are usually activated when I am curious about a person, place or thing and then my psychic probe is turned on. I have trained myself to be able to analyze photographs of persons I have never seen before and have no knowledge of. Also I can analyze dreams, do past life readings and analyze persons. If my psychic was turned on all of the time I would go insane. Therefore I am trained to turn it on and off like a light switch.
That experience I had about my world separating I believe was a psychic experience and not an optical illusion. Thank you for your interesting questions, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2003, 10:20am

backlit; I do not know the name of the German psychic that Stalin got his hands on. I know that Hitler was very interested in psychic and astrology and had several astrologers and psychics working for him. If he would have listened to them he probably would not have invaded Russia. Thank God for his ego and his insanity. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2003, 10:23am

To BJ; we are all here to learn in order to try to understand what is happening in our world and how it affects us and our civilization. If we can consider all things as possible I think this is a good approach. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2003, 4:35pm

To all my friends on this web site; on the 29th of May I shall be 73 years old. Me and Bob Hope and President Kennedy share the same birthday. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2003, 4:48pm

FYI; there is a program available on CDs which decodes the Hebrew Torah Bible into English and which can predict coming events. There is an interactive tutorial on this web site which explains how this program works. For anybody who is interested here is the web site address;

http://www.dokomedia.com/ubccdrom.html

Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 26th, 2003, 5:05pm

Hi Irwyn! Congrats on the B-Day. I had one on the 21st but I've only made it to 55 so far. My father just turned 86 and his father made it to 100 so I hope I get a few more good years. LOL! I hope you do too.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on May 28th, 2003, 06:01am

Off the subject for a minute. H.J. I have a 12 year old son who reads this board with me and has some imput. I was disgusted at the language you used in an earlier post. Its not a perfect world, and we hear these profanities everyday, so do we have to bring them to this site. This is an excellent board for ALL to put there veiws forward, do we then have to humilliate them. Yes agreed that G.V`s posts are somewhat radical, but we all have our veiws. If you don`t like them do not answer them. I have enjoyed your posts and YOUR veiws and communicating with you, but is this the real you coming out. I might add that we do have younger people on this board as well, so PLEASE no more profanities. I`ve just had a 2 week holiday and was disturbed by what I read. cry

Happy birthday Irwyn, I hope I can make it that far. It would be nice to reach H.J.`s age LOL. Mines in 3 weeks and I`ll be a very young 39. cry LOL wink I`ll be away for a week then as well, but don`t forget me I`m still hereeeeeeeeee! grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 28th, 2003, 08:20am

Thank you for your birthday wishes.
Rob; which button at the bottom do I use to edit any entries on the board? I agree that this should be a respectable forum.
Happy birthday to you guys!!!!!! LOL, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on May 28th, 2003, 08:35am

Hey rob,

Sorry. I don't know what got into me. But really, you consider "crapola" a profanity? It's not even a word. I know I messed up with my posting so I apologized. And if your son was offended, or you by my made-up word, I apologize to you both.

You know rob, I have never posted much on bulletin boards or forums or whatever you call this medium. The Ufo Casebook forum is the one and only that I have spent any time on. I see now that although we get to thinking that we know each other, it's certainly not the case. Written words only convey so much and the rest is gathered through assumptions, right or wrong. Subtle humor can be interpreted differently than it is meant as can just about every other intention when all you have is the written word or these silly emoticons.

Yes I was rude to GV and Irwyn. I didn't think I was at the time but saw it later. I tried to make it up but GV decided to bail instead. Irwyn was a perfect gentleman about it and I tip my hat to him in gratitude.

So, I guess this is about all I can do about it. Oh yeah, I guess I'll go back and delete it so no one else is offended. Have fun all.

PS: rob, I did find something else in one of my apology posts that you might consider profanity so I removed that post too. Take care.



HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on May 28th, 2003, 9:52pm

I guess I should apologize for being a "carrot"! angry
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 29th, 2003, 08:25am

I seem to have the only board where everybody is apologizing.
H. J., I don't think you should be a whip, and backlit, I don't think you look like a carrot.
Let's get back to some interesting conversation on this board. You know what I appreciate? The mental stimulation of an intelligent argument and the pro and cons responses. That is food for my hungry mind. "It is a terrible thing to waste a good mind".





Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 30th, 2003, 6:23pm

I received a birthday gift from an unexpected source yesterday on my birthday. If you'll recall about three months ago I had a frightening experience as I was sitting in my contour chair relaxing. I was just idly looking across the room when I saw that my vision ended in the center of the room and there was a space and my vision continued for the rest of the room. It was as if I saw the end of this dimension or this world. It was very disconcerting and I needed a few minutes to get back my composure.

Yesterday I received this answer from the UFOs. What I was allowed to see was the third and fourth dimension worlds coexisting but separated. These two worlds are different states of reality but they are mirror worlds. I was told that the greys are able to walk through solid walls by changing themselves from the physical third dimensional world to the non physical fourth dimensional world. I was also told that when you can access the fourth dimensional world you can manipulate and control this third dimensional physical world. Apparently the UFOs are capable of doing this. I do not know if they are able to do this by themselves or if they use that wand that some persons have reported seeing. I am posting this in several related topics and I would appreciate any response. Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 30th, 2003, 08:45am

To all of my friends; I wish to recommend a book which speaks of the Heavens and the Earth and of Angels and of Man and of other Worlds and Dimensions which can further expand our minds and our understanding of UFOs.
This book is called, “Oahspe Bible”.
This book was written by a Dr. and Dentist named John B. Newbrough around 1871 and was copyrighted in 1882. This book was dictated to this Dr. by higher worlds and was written on one of the first typewriters that was sold. This book was written via “automatic writing” in which the recipient is merely an instrument and has no control over the writing or the content of the writing. This book has helped me greatly in understanding the “big picture” of Creation and the mechanism and meaning and purpose thereof. Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 1st, 2003, 4:35pm

To my friends;

I thought you might be interested in my views in this correspondence with my friend Ruth.

Ruthie; thank you for your most interesting e-mail. I do not like Jehovah and I don't think he qualifies as a deity role model. The Old Testament is full of "His" jealousy and anger and vindictiveness and cruelty. His need to have a people build temples to worship him and to make sacrifices to him such as killing their own son to prove loyalty to him does not appeal to me. Who was this Jehovah? What world did he come from? We have an interesting mystery here. The Old Testament indicates to me that all of the negative genes that we have inherited appear to come from him. If I were a psychiatrist I would probably analyze Jehovah as emotionally and mentally disturbed. I am glad that I follow the Angels of Light and not Jehovah. Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 1st, 2003, 4:38pm

More on my correspondence;

In reply to your question, do we have free will?

When I was being developed psychically and when I lived in the Y.M.H.A. on East 92nd Street New York I had this experience;
I was put into a psychic state and my mind was speeded up so that I could see my own thoughts, and as I "saw"
myself thinking a thought the Angels dictated a whole book to me. The message was very clear. We have free will, but while we are thinking of which direction we will take the Angels prepare the road for us. Their minds are thousands of times faster than ours so we can have free will but it will not interfere with Angel guidance. Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 1st, 2003, 4:41pm

Addendum to posting number 117;

If you look at the Old Testament you'll see that Jehovah told his pal Satan to torment Job until he renounced Jehovah and complained about his miserable life. This was a test of Job's loyalty. Some test!!!!!!

I just realized a bombshell!!!! That's why the angel UFOs are abducting thousands of people. They are eradicating and altering all of the bad genes inherited from Jehovah. The human race is getting a remake to start over again with good genes. What a revelation!!!!!!!

This makes sense to me. What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 1st, 2003, 5:04pm

More "stuff" is coming in;

Ruthie; I'm getting bits and pieces of information which continues on our latest subject.

Jehovah did not create our souls. He created a biological tribe of people and locked them onto the reincarnation system. They were his special people and he designed them to be obedient and worshipful servants and slaves. These were the "chosen people".
But not all of us are part of his "chosen people". Some of us belong to a different place and a different deity. Jehovah is not very high up on the deity ladder, which is proven by his psychopathic behavior.
This is why we have not been abducted by physical UFOs and had our genetic coding altered. We come into this system and take the bodies of human beings, but yet we remember that we belong somewhere else in a different type world. We follow the beat of a different drum. We come here to act as mediums and channels for higher worlds to raise the consciousness level of human beings and to help them raise themselves to a higher level and to free themselves from the Wheel of Karma. What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 8th, 2003, 08:30am

To E.S. et al; when I was a youngster I happened to look inside a microscope at a drop of water and I was amazed to see and realize that there was a whole World that was invisible to me. I realized at that time by this microcosm World that there were Worlds and Dimensions in existence that I could not see or contact.



This is the way that we have to think; Creation and the Universe are multi-faceted and multi-structured and multi-inhabited by a diversity of Beings. Some of these Worlds and Dimensions are inhabited by physical Beings such as ourselves. Others are inhabited by mental Beings and thought forms. Other Dimensions are the habitat of energy Beings who manifest as Beings of Light.

We have to expand our thinking to accommodate the wide range of possibilities existing in Creation.

The UFOs are giving us the," books of knowledge", for us to "read" so that we might better understand existence and our identity.

An example of this is the crop circles. These crop circles are intelligently created to educate and to expand the minds of all of the scientific disciplines and to unify them and to have them also accept the psychic studies as part of modern science.

Researchers of crop circles have found that many of the symbols in the crop circles are the same as found in the Celtic religion as well as sacred geometry. The UFOs are conducting classes with these crop circle geometrics and all of the sciences as well as the psychic studies will benefit. I have dealt with these UFOs and I have found that they are able to think and perform on multiple levels and tasks at the same time.

For instance, in the insects crop circles they have found that since we are at a kindergarten level they can best teach us with picture grams. However, in the insects crop circles geometrics you'll find the genetic coding for the Creation and evolution of the insects kingdom. They also have a sense of humor and they are so multifaceted that we cannot comprehend their level of intelligence or Being. In order to raise the level of consciousness to benefit from these crop circles geometrics, science and psychic have to join forces and accept each other as necessary to understand the "Whole".

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 18th, 2003, 10:13am

Here is some interesting e-mail communication between myself and my friend Ruth, the latest e-mail appears first; Irwyn

Ruthie; "everything is not what it appears to be". The fourth dimension is
a parallel Dimension to our own third Dimension physical world. The fourth
Dimension is inhabited by spirits of the dead, and mental thought forms.
Jehovah and Satan have their own kingdom there. Hell is located in the
fourth Dimension.

Being a mental Dimension means that they know ahead of us what will happen
on our Planet. So they literally can see the future of happenings regarding
our Planet. People can use their psychic abilities to connect to the fourth
Dimension. Spirits of the dead usually go to the fourth Dimension to be
processed and to be reincarnated back into the Earth system as part of the
wheel of Karma.
When a person dies they are in a state of shock because of the transition
from the physical third dimension to the mental fourth dimension. Therefore
until they become oriented to this new Dimension they are literally
unavailable and unreachable.

But not all departed souls go to the fourth Dimension. In the same manner
that "water seeks its own level" the individual soul will be magnetized to
go to the Dimension of its frequency value. Everything in Creation has a
frequency value and that is its identity. That is a clue to time travel.
If you can change your frequency you can go to different dimensional worlds.

That is what is happening now with the angelic UFOs. They're trying to
raise our frequency to escape the, "Wheel of Karma", which is the prison
system devised by Jehovah and Satan. Earthlings have been slaves and now it
is time for our Souls to become FREE!!!!!!!!!. Regards to all, Irwyn-----
Original Message -----
From: <GoldenCove88@aol.com>
To: <ircon1@adelphia.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: impersonators from different dimensions


> .......ooooh........ that IS interesting. Somewhere I'd heard that before
> -about comunications from the dead - impersonating a meaningful thought
pattern
> for our benefit. (I think I heard it from you). That the reverse
should
> be true of intimidating patterns appearing from the fourth dimension is
also
> completely logical. So the
> question we really care most about - where do our loved ones go and why
can
> we not
> communicate either way across the great dividehuh? -- still remains
> unanswered.
> And why there should be no minimal communication - at least for a few days
or
> weeks after departure (realizing that we all have to move on with life
> wherever we are) -
> makes me mad. It doesn't seem fair. Would it be possible if we were
more
> evolved
> to be more inter/intradimensional?

cool cool
>



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:03pm

The following was received in meditation today;

The planet Earth is sick. It has become unstable. We have raped the land, polluted the oceans and rivers and contaminated the air. It is not only our physical actions that have injured this planet but it is also our thoughts that have disrupted the atmosphere and unbalanced our magnetic fields.
Why can't we understand that we are responsible for the care and maintenance of this planet? We are the caretakers. We are the guardians.

We are in the “end days”. Nature has warned us so many times that we were causing harm, but we did not listen. The end of this civilization will not come from atomic wars or biological weapons. It will be the result of Nature unleashing her furies. The planet Earth will be the battlefield and everything that breathes or lives will be the casualties.

Get the house of your mind in order. Prepare yourselves for what will happen within the next 25 years. Change your value system. Respect life and the environment for living.

Angel UFOs will evacuate millions of people in “ether ships” which are capable of transporting millions of Souls inter- dimensionally. This will be a new EXODUS. The Souls that have been “abducted” will be taken off this planet because they have been genetically altered and they are contributors to a new hybrid race. They shall be taken to the location of their new race. Other Souls will be “picked up” according to their individual evolutionary history.

This is not a prophecy of “doom”, but rather a message of Hope.





What do you think, Irwyn sad cry

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 18th, 2003, 08:36am

This is an e-mail which I sent to the Discovery Channel on August 18 2003.

I enjoyed your program entitled," Nefertiti Resurrected,". I am a psychic and I "feel" that this is the real Nefertiti.
Many years ago I was talking to a guru named Harish and he asked me to do a psychic reading on a photograph of a deceased holy woman.
I "saw" the Soul of this holy woman traveling to all the places on this Planet where she had past lives and her Soul collected her "remains". Then I saw that there was a door in the Sun and her Soul went through that door and into a higher dimensional World.
At this point I "knew" that when a Soul attains a high-level it could pass through the Sun and into a higher World.
After I finished this psychic reading Harish told me that there is a religious group in India that believes that if you can look at the Sun and see that door than you will be elevated to a higher awareness. The members of this group sit on rock ledges all day and stare at the Sun. As a result most of them become blind. I was not aware of this information until I was told this after I did my psychic reading.
I hope you find this interesting, Irwyn Greif cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 18th, 2003, 11:58am

This is regarding the major power blackout in August 2003 and also in 1965.
There is no doubt in my mind that both of these major blackouts were caused by UFOs. Both of these blackouts involved the upstate New York Niagara power grid.
I have trained myself to look for the signature of UFOs happenings. In both of these power blackouts there were millions of people involved and yet there was an absolute minimum of injured and fatally wounded people.
Both of these blackouts were a wake-up call that we rely too much on electricity and to encourage us to seek a new form of energy. There is a free energy that exists throughout the Universe which we can utilize for all of our needs. Why aren't we researching this?

Let's also consider the awesome power and control of UFOs to stage these two massive power failures and yet to protect the lives of millions of individuals in the process.
Consider also the advanced technology and control that the UFOs demonstrated when they simultaneously shut off 20 Minuteman missiles in a missile silo. The military personnel in charge of the silo publicly announced that what was done was impossible because each Minuteman missile had its own separate shut off code.
Why don't we respect the higher intelligence and advanced technology of UFOs and learn from them instead of trying to shoot them down?
What do you think? Irwyn
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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 20th, 2003, 08:20am

Yesterday I was meditating and my thoughts were sad because I was thinking that I miss hearing the beautiful voice of Mario Lanza who died sometime ago. I was reflecting how a great voice like his could be lost to us. At this time I received this message;

Nothing is ever lost or dead. Everything which has existed, exists now or will exist is stored in the repository of the Time Continuum where it is kept forever.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 26th, 2003, 11:28am

Many years ago when I was being developed psychically on a crash program basis I was told this.

I was told that the, “Star Of David”, represents two pyramids, one inverted on top of the other and that this is a symbol of an energy device that was used in the Great Pyramid of Giza to activate a magnetic energy field which was used for, “Time Travel” and for interdimensional transportation and teleportation.
In order to "turn on" the Great Pyramid you have to know how to manipulate and to rotate the, “Star of David”, system.

As you know already, almost all of the symbols that appear in various religions and sacred geometry and that have survived the ages have profound meanings and uses and have nothing at all to do with religions.

We are all travelers in Time. Everything in the Universe, including the Universe, is traveling in Time.
We cannot say that we are traveling in Space because
Space as we know it in the inner dimensions of mental and energy Worlds does not exist.

Space in the physical Worlds coexists with matter as a relative convenience, and it should not be defined as an absolute term.
Time in its essence is a multifrequency state of vibration.
Understand that everything in the Universe, every state of Being, is a different frequency.

If we can see everything in the Universe as being different frequency values and if we can calculate these frequency values, using Time as a fixed point of location, then we will have an equation for “Time Travel”.

I can travel in Time if I can focus my own frequency and
then just "tune" in to the frequency of the "target" location in a similar manner to tuning into a radio station. Each World has its own frequency band in the same way that radio and television have their separate bands with separate stations.

Science cannot apply Einstein's theorem regarding Time
and Space using the speed of light as the constant without considering the time distortion and time-shift factors.
The "Space Age" physics we must learn in order to
master “Time Travel” is best explained with the geometrics of pyramid shapes.
If we raise our frequency from the base of the pyramid,
(which represents physical Earth) to the apex of the pyramid, (which represents higher consciousness), we reach a plane or frequency of zero null point.
At this point we are free of gravity and magnetic attraction.

At this point we have created a new geometric, which is 2 inverted pyramids standing on top of each other, apex touching apex.
When this geometric is realized, it represents the "Duality of Worlds" theory that each physical World has an opposite energy twin World in another Dimension.
The lower pyramid is the physical World, the upper pyramid is the fourth dimensional or energy twin World.
When the Being has thus achieved reaching zero null point, then the geometric is changed so that the two pyramids are superimposed one over the other in the “Star of David” form.

This means that these two opposite polarity Worlds are held in a state of magnetically opposing stasis or balance.
At this point each pyramid can be tuned and manipulated to direct “Time Travel” to travel either forwards or backwards. At this juncture the "Star of David" symbol has become a formula for a “Time machine”.

In a recent meditation I was told that the lower inverted pyramid in this configuration is not a physical pyramid but an energy pyramid which is the result of the magnetic field created by the physical pyramid.

The “Time Machine” function is turned on by the frequency tone created by the chanting of a priests mantra which must be performed in a special reverberation chamber. This frequency tone then moves the magnetic field lower pyramid “cone” to superimpose over the physical pyramid creating a “Star Chamber” or “Time Machine”.

I believe that this operation used one or two empty sarcophagus to transport the subject from one Dimension to another. The engineers who designed this, “Time Machine”, transporter were from Orion and the constellation Orion was the destination point.

I also believe that the information for this ritual and ceremony involving the "Transmigration Of Souls" and "Interdimensional Travel" are passages from the "Egyptian Book Of The Dead" which have never been seen before and are recorded in a cylinder behind the copper door at the end of the shaft in the "Great Pyramid". I also believe that the Egyptian government has recovered the cylinder and does not wish to reveal its contents to the archeological world.

It seems that the ancient priests of Egypt are still exercising their secrecy and control!!!

What do you think? Irwyn



cool cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 29th, 2003, 09:11am

FYI;

Nefertiti was the first "women's lib"advocate about 5000 years ago. She was co-ruler with Akhnaton and she many times performed the duties of a Pharoah while her husband was the "official" Pharoah. She also drove her own chariot and beat her husband in a race, which was against the accepted practices of ancient Egypt.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 1st, 2003, 2:15pm

This is a tribute to Pharaoh Akhnaton and his wife Nefertiti who lived 5000 years ago. Their quality of love and companionship for each other exemplified and glorified the highest level of human expression. Let their lives be an example that we shall remember and cherish. I pray that their spirits have reunited and that they are one for eternity. Irwyn cry
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Sep 10th, 2003, 4:55pm

This man states that if the government does not disclose the existence of ET's soon that they will do it themselves.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/maynard.html


Greer on the ET and energy cover-up:
http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/greer6.html

read or Listen here to Dr. Greer on George Noory Radio Show (01-31-03)
Announcement of promising new energy device found.
http://www.seaspower.com/latestnews.htm




Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 15th, 2003, 1:41pm

“Murder I Wrote”

In the course of researching some Egyptology records I have noticed some interesting information. It is my belief that Prime Minister Ay was one of the most brilliant serial killers in history. This story dates back almost 5000 years ago and is a compilation of historical facts and psychic intuition.

Prime Minister Ay was a commoner who rose to be Prime Minister of Egypt while Akhenaten was Pharaoh. Nefertiti was Akhenaten’s wife and co-ruler. Both the Pharaoh and his wife made dramatic changes in the religion and threatened the existing priests of Egypt. In 1332 BC Akhenaten died, the circumstances never explained. His memory and all that he had created soon was erased from history not to be found for centuries later.
I believe that Prime Minister Ay murdered Akhenaten probably with poison and Nefertiti became Pharaoh. Sometime during her reign or after her death her records were destroyed and Smenkhkare’s name was recorded as the Pharaoh who ruled during and after Akhenaten. I believe that Nefertiti and Smenkhkare were one and the same. After a few years of Nefertiti being the Pharaoh, Prime Minister Ay murdered Nefertiti by stabbing her to death. Shortly after Nefertiti's death Prime Minister Ay conspired with the priests of Amun to send grave robbers to Nefertiti's tomb to remove Nefertiti from the original tomb and to bury her body in a different tomb and to hide her identity by removing all evidence of her royalty. Also Nefertiti's mummy was damaged physically so that the gods of Egypt would not recognize her and allow her to enter into the higher World.

After Nefertiti's death Tutankhamen became Pharaoh at the age of 9. Prime Minister Ay was able to control the young Pharaoh until he became rebellious about the age of 17. Then Prime Minister Ay conceived a brilliant plan of how he, the commoner could become Pharaoh.
Tutankhamen loved to hunt and he was especially fascinated by lions. Prime Minister Ay told Tutankhamen that a magnificent gold color lion was seen in the desert and he asked Tutankhamen to go hunting with him for this lion. Prime Minister Ay and Tutankhamen went hunting for this lion and during this hunt Prime Minister Ay clubbed Tutankhamen and killed him and when he returned he claimed that the lion had attacked Tutankhamen’s chariot frightening the horses who overturned the chariot and the Pharaoh struck his head on the chariot and was killed.

I believe that the wall painting in the tomb of Pharaoh Ay was his confession and his egomania showing the crime scene and the story of the murder of Tutankhamen. I believe that when the grave robbers came to the tomb of Tutankhamen to rob the tomb they saw a materialization of Tutankhamen appearing as a Sphinx, and this half man and half lion so terrified them that they fled the tomb and one of the robbers died of a heart attack caused by his fear.

After Tutankhamen’s death his widow Ankhesenamen did not wish to marry Prime Minister Ay therefore she sent a letter to the King of the Hittites to ask for his son in marriage. The King sent his son Zannanza but he was assassinated at the border by a murderer sent by Prime Minister Ay. This cleared the way for Prime Minister Ay to marry Ankhesenamen which automatically made Prime Minister Ay, Pharaoh of Egypt. Shortly after this marriage Pharoah Ay had Ankhesenamen murdered and her body buried and hidden in a commoners tomb.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 19th, 2003, 09:20am

“A Story Of Creation.”


A long, long time ago a “Higher Authority” summoned His Angels and vested in one Angel called Jehovah the Power to Create, but not to create Souls, and he commissioned Jehovah to create a new World System, and he gave him the Third Dimension for this project. He gave Jehovah thousands of Angels to assist Him in this task, and He assigned to Him many Souls who were already created from the body of the “Higher Authority”. Jehovah chose Satan to assist Him in this Enterprise.

A new Solar System was created and the Planet Earth was selected for this new World System. This new World existed on the principles of positive and negative, light and darkness, life and death. The curriculum was called Karma and was designed to educate the Soul through all of the experiences of physical life. This World, [Earth], depended upon the Sun for its life-giving energies and for its reflected light.

The Souls that were given to Jehovah originally were complete and were androgyne but Jehovah decided to divide these Souls into male and female and to clothe them in a flesh body to enable them to experience the physical and emotional experiences of pain and pleasure as the different sexes.

Jehovah assumed the role of the positive God and Satan assumed the role of the negative God. Between these two opposing polarity forces they attempted to create a functioning World of Humans Beings. But this power corrupted them both and instead of operating a, “School For Souls”, the Earth became a prison where the Soul was incarnated many times in different sexual identities and was bound by the “laws” of the, “Wheel of Karma” with Death being the only temporary escape from the pains of life.

I do not accept this System and its injustices and I protest its existence and I believe that Human Beings should be allowed more dignity and more independence and should not be dependent upon the Sun for its Light and life-giving qualities and that our bodies should have a different structure and a better immune system and that we should not be subjected to these “laws” of Life and Death and that we should be raised to a higher angelic level and be elevated above the animal kingdom.

We have the power to change our lives and our existences if we can think higher thoughts to raise our level then we can change our World to be a better place.

Instead of cataloging the different shapes and forms and types of UFOs let us join forces with the angelic UFOs and help to change our World and our existences. Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Sep 20th, 2003, 02:25am

That would be fine if it really happened that way. The name Jehovah is only 500 to 600 years old.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 20th, 2003, 08:49am

Backlit; thank you for your input. I believe that the name Jehovah has appeared in many ancient books and Bibles in the Western religions. However the chronological is not important to me and I use this title to represent the most popular name for "God". Similarly, I use the popular sexual term for Angels, Deities or"God" as "His" or "He" although any enlightened person knows that all of the above mentioned do not have any sexual identity.

I am more interested in the concept and thinking involved rather than to list the many names and titles used to identify "God".
What do you think? Irwyn huh
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Sep 21st, 2003, 10:41pm

In your "story" Who is the "higher authority" mentioned? I'm not familiar with this version of the creation fable. Where did this story originate? Is Jehovah an angel or God? What is the purpose of recycling souls?

"I do not accept this System and its injustices and I protest its existence and I believe that Human Beings should be allowed more dignity and more independence and should not be dependent upon the Sun for its Light and life-giving qualities and that our bodies should have a different structure and a better immune system and that we should not be subjected to these “laws” of Life and Death and that we should be raised to a higher angelic level and be elevated above the animal kingdom."

How do you know this system exists? We are not above the animals? Yes I want my cake and to eat it too, but life in this universe just does not operate that way. It is a progressive learning experience, not instant karma. Dignity an indepenece and the loss of such is largly our own doing. Some day your body will have ... well ... no structure an not need an immune system.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 22nd, 2003, 2:31pm

Backlit; Thank you for your interesting reply. My writings are mainly based on my own personal psychic experiences and information that I have received in meditations. I do not rely on book information except sometimes to use the Bible as a point of reference.

When you say that we live in a “system” of reality that is true to a certain extent. I have had many psychic experiences with UFOs and Angels and this has demonstrated to me that there are other dimensions of reality. However this is hard to explain to people who have not had psychic experiences or “near death” experiences.

I believe in Angels and in interdimensional Worlds. I believe that we are in the final stages of our civilization and that all the structure of reincarnation and the recycling of Souls, which is part of that “system”, will be replaced by a better “system”.

I believe that the Angel who is in charge of this present “system” deified himself and abused his power and that his name is Jehovah and that he and his partner Angel Satan will be replaced soon. I also believe that there is a "Higher Authority" than what we commonly call, "God" or "Jehovah" and that although this "Higher Authority" allowed this World "system" to be created by Jehovah, I believe that only this "Higher Authority" has the power to create Souls.

I believe that the Angelic UFOs play an important part in this very important changeover. I believe also that there are evil UFOs and Beings from the fourth dimensional World who pose a threat to our health and well being. These evil creatures are recorded regularly in newspaper accounts usually in South America and their pattern is similar to a vampire attack.

I will try to give you some stories of my psychic and interdimensional experiences at a later time. Please try to have an open mind and consider all things as being possible. Thank you, Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 24th, 2003, 3:40pm

Minitrue; I am sorry that I have offended you with my writings. It is not my intention to be the leader of a cult nor is it my intention to supply you with fantasy. As I have mentioned before, I have been a psychic all of my life and I have had many psychic experiences. These experiences are very real to me and I value them.

I write about my experiences in order to share with you unusual happenings and to encourage the readers to share with all of us their own unusual or psychic happenings and experiences. Do you feel that I should not share with the readers my own personal experiences? Do you question the reality and veracity of my psychic experiences? Please advise, Irwyn shocked
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Sep 28th, 2003, 5:20pm

Irwyn on: Jul 1st, 2003, 6:04pm you said what is KEY:
"Jehovah did not create our souls. He created a biological tribe of people and locked them onto the reincarnation system. They were his special people and he designed them to be obedient and worshipful servants and slaves. These were the "chosen people"."

Jehovah kept the Jews circling in the desert for forty years when it takes 2 1/2 hrs to drive the distance, and three days walking!!! Then he told them to slaughter every man, woman and child, but don't harm the animals, gardens and vineyards so they could just take them over. And this is the story of how the Jews came into the "holy land".
Jehovah needed 40 years to brainwash a race to be completely servile and obedient to him; to have the previous generation die off so the Jews would become slaugterers and genocidists at his command. that was the purpose in having the Jews "wander".

Certainly this is NOT "intelligence". it is NOT the intelligence that heals and performs miracles. i believe the E.T.'s are trying to teach us and this is evident in crop circles and the many people coming forth to tell the truth the government has hidden. it is not the intelligence Admiral Byrd met in inner earth and reported in his log that the government told him he must not tell about and remember he was in government and must "obey". this purposeful lying and secrecy of the government and "obedience" to it is so very reminiscent of Jehovah's "law". invasion of iraq is reminiscent of jehohah's law of "pre-emption".

I believe in all your experiences Irwyn, because I see they are confirmed in all my other research and do not conflict but verify all the evidence I have found and some of it posted here. Your assessment of "Jehovah" is mirrored in Zecharia Sitchin's translations of Sumerian texts that predate all texts especially his "Lost Book of Enki" and the description of Marduk.

Your insight into their "awesome" power confirms my own feelings and findings that much is being done by them to keep things in balance here and we don't hear about it in the corporate media. However, it is up to us to want their help as they are NOT enslavers and will not go against our free will. If people really want to believe their own lies and fairy tales that we are "intelligent" then they will let us die of self-destruction. However, I believe there are enough people on the planet that want their intervention and this will override the skeptics and narcissists, like is evident on this site.
I WILL NOT accept this "system" and "its injustices and I protest its existence."

I agree and am WITH YOU 100% and your statement:
"We have the power to change our lives and our existences if we can think higher thoughts to raise our level then we can change our World to be a better place.
Instead of cataloging the different shapes and forms and types of UFOs let us join forces with the angelic UFOs and help to change our World and our existences."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 29th, 2003, 10:01am

G. V.; thank you for your stunning support and confirmation of my postings. Here is an interesting e-mail which I received from my friend Ruth;

THE EAGLE

THIS IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT! SINCE AMERICANS TYPICALLY
REPRESENTED BY AN EAGLE. SADDAM SHOULD HAVE READ UP ON HIS MUSLIM
PASSAGES...


THE FOLLOWING VERSE IS FROM THE QURAN, (THE ISLAMIC BIBLE)

QURAN (9:11) -- FOR IT IS WRITTEN THAT A SON OF ARABIA WOULD AWAKEN A
FEARSOME EAGLE. THE WRATH OF THE EAGLE WOULD BE FELT THROUGHOUT THE LANDS
OF ALLAH AND LO, WHILE SOME OF THE PEOPLE TREMBLED IN DESPAIR STILL MORE
REJOICED; FOR THE WRATH OF THE EAGLE CLEANSED THE LANDS OF ALLAH; AND
THERE WAS PEACE.



(NOTE THE VERSE NUMBER!!!!!)

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Sep 29th, 2003, 10:15am

FYI; I hope this e-mail to my friend Ruth will clarify some of my postings;

Ruthie; We do not have the time to research how many names "God" used .For
convenience sake I use Jehovah as the "God" in charge of the Earth System.
Also for convenience sake I referred to the "Higher Authority" as the entity
in charge of Creation and everything in- between. It is less confusing not to
identify the, "Entity In Charge" with a name. Regards, Irwyn

What do you think? Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Sep 29th, 2003, 5:27pm

Irwyn, re: QURAN (9:11): I believe the current ILLEGAL and FRAUDULENT secret government may have known this text.

But on a deeper note - I believe the REAL EAGLE HAS NOT WOKEN UP HERE YET!! And when it does, it will bring in the E.T.'s and a whole NEW ENERGY that will IN DEED bring on "THE WRATH OF THE EAGLE WOULD BE FELT THROUGHOUT THE LANDS OF ALLAH AND LO, WHILE SOME OF THE PEOPLE TREMBLED IN DESPAIR STILL MORE REJOICED; FOR THE WRATH OF THE EAGLE CLEANSED THE LANDS OF ALLAH; AND THERE WAS PEACE."

What the "son of Arabia" has awakened is the awareness of the great disparity in lifestyle, freedoms across the globe (5% of the people of the world own 95% of the wealth). We are waking from our addictions to a lifestyle that means death to most of the world - including ourselves on 911 (no arab shut down the 3 defense systems of the pentagon and the vile of anthrax Powell held up in the U.N. was from u.s. government stockpiles. so whoever wrote those notes to look like an arab, i haven't a clue).

Power, oil and gold were what the bad Annunaki, with Marduk, manipulated to enslave humanity -- AND IT CONTINUES TO THIS DAY!

Oil is not what our galatic brothers and sisters came here for! They do not use it to give them energy! or propel their vehicles!! They are not en masse over Iraq and Baghdad to que up for a refill of their gas tanks!!!


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 10th, 2003, 10:30am

GV; thank you for your very provocative and interesting posting. Some of the contributors to these various web pages have complained that if the UFOs are so good why don't they give us the cure for cancer or some other medical miracle. This is very shortsighted. If our genetic coding is programmed to allow for aging, sickness and death then what has to be corrected here is the basic genetics and DNA structure rather than the ills and misfortunes of the human body.

We need a total remake, not a temporary or partial healing! We need a new design, a new generation model of human. I do not believe that aging or sickness or even death is a necessary requirement for the human being. I believe that the Bible will confirm my belief. What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by goldenvoyager on Oct 10th, 2003, 5:51pm

Correct Irwyn! This is what people need to look at in order to overcome their inertia and "i can't"s.

That old saying about "teach a man to fish and he'll eat forever" is MOST important to remember if we are to have any dignity or self-esteem. We have been dependent on anything and everything to sustain - turning a blind eye to the suffering it is has caused in the world. Our "leaders" suppress ANY advancement past dependency on oil and get away with THEFT and MURDER!!! In fear, people ALLOW themselves to be manipulated into believing the LIES of government and science creating death and WMD ---

What would be so advanced for E.T.'s to come and "cure" us if we are still believing we are weak and helpless? They would only become our babysitters and WHO NEEDS IThuh That is the ARROGANT, ego-tripping mind of man in the name of "PROOF"! WHO NEEDS IThuh take a hike!!!

They have gently removed much harm already and allowed much exposure of our enslavers - so we would have the courage to change.... FOREVER! Have the courage to INVITE them, the courage to LEARN and EMBRACE them and OURSELVES in the TRUTH of who we really are!!! Come out, come out, whereever you are... EVERYBODY!! Declare an END to this CHARADE!!

They will help us with the model --- and they will let us decide what we want to become. Along with this, however, we will learn CLEARLY what we are choosing, the time we have and outcomes so we may become self-governing. Yes, a TOTAL REMAKE, but, What MORE could we ask forhuh

e.g. FYI: Dr. Steven Greer announces free energy device

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/FreeEnergy/Directory/Greer/rumormillnews030210.htm

Let us see how fast people get up off their duffs and email everyone they know about this! Or do they sit and debate if there is "proof" in their "system" and worry what people will think of their "intellect" ... as the world crumbles...

choice... every moment... and NOONE is responsible for that but oneself. and people do not have forever to wake up.... maybe even a few days only...


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 13th, 2003, 2:40pm

F. Y. I.; I have notified BJ that the latest Web pages do not come out centered. This is a test to see if this posting is printed correctly. Thank you, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Oct 13th, 2003, 10:37pm

Hey Irwyn check this out.
http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Part_III/MaryKerfoot3.html
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 14th, 2003, 2:11pm

BJ; this is my latest posting which I am doing as a test to determine if the text is centered or if the text runs across the page on the right hand side? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 14th, 2003, 2:31pm

Backlit; thank you for your referral. Please check out my other web page, "personal psychic experiences or UFO experiences", as I am trying to encourage personal involvement in this web site. I'm interested in your comments, Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 25th, 2003, 11:58am

I think you'll find this interesting.

Ruth; your e-mail has triggered a meditation response.

Everything in Creation has a "signature frequency". This is the identity and value of that thing or Being. If we can match the frequency then we can manipulate that thing or Being by contracting that frequency for "Time Travel or galactic or Inter Dimensional travel. By expanding that frequency that thing or Being can "land" or materialize in another World or Dimension. Shamans and holy men
demonstrate this by bi-locating themselves so they can appear in multiple places at the same time. Apports also use this principal by objects traveling through Time and Space to appear in our World. The shaman does not know the quantum mechanics involved but he does it by an intuitive process.

November 8th Star of David configuration[tetrahadedon] will create activity in the link between Orion and the Egypt Pyramids. Although the Hebrews adopted the star of David emblem this symbol should rightfully be called, the "Star of Orion" because it signifies the intergalactic and "Time Travel" link between the "Great Pyramid" and the constellation of Orion. I believe that information will be released by the Egypt department of antiquities regarding what they discovered in the secret room at the end of the shaft in the Great Pyramid around or about November 8th. Thank you for this information.
What do you think? Irwyn cool

Original Message -----
From: <GoldenCove88@aol.com>
To: <ircon1@adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:26 AM
Subject: Nov. 8th full moon Eclipse


> Hi Irwyn! Have been wanting to give you a "heads up" on this: Apparently
> there is
> a full moon eclipse on November 8th (the new moon eclipse is happening now
> with
> everything from sun moon and mercury conjuncting at 0-1 degree Scorpio) -
> but this
> full moon on the 8th is purported to be a Star of David tetrahadedon
> planetary formation in the heavens, which - as we know- is the time travel
> formation....inter-
> dimension or whatever. Would you give a moment's thought to this and feel
> if it
> has any particular significance at this time for us on this plane? There is
> another
> new moon eclipse in Sagittarius on Nov.23rd, but I believe the 11/8 date is
> purported to have this particular formation associated with time-travel at 16
> degrees Taurus/Scorpio. Let me know if you think it has any particular
> significance at this time. Scorpio has many meanings.... the phoenix rising and
> becoming the dove of peace (like Gandhi, and Picasso) are the better
> images associated. ..... rising from the
> ashes to recreate anew from the Scorpion to the Eagle to the Dove, in
> astrological imagery. But - I don't want to lead you. Maybe these things go on
> every year and
> we just don't pay attention. It was the star tetrahedron in the heavens
> that caught my attention.
> Have a nice weekend! Ruthie
>
>
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 9th, 2003, 3:06pm

Last tuesday there was a program on t.v. called "the elegent universe". I sent a reply as follows:[part1]

I have attempted to understand Creation and my relationship to it. My research is based upon my psychic communication with Angels and UFOs. I am submitting my philosophy and my beliefs.
Perhaps they will be of interest to you. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to express myself.

In order to understand the mysteries of the UFOs and interdimensional travel you have to learn to think a different way. The laws of science that apply to the physical World that we live in do not apply to “their” Worlds. "They" are not subject to our physical laws.
We have to open our minds to an expanded thinking.

I believe that the fourth Dimension is a mental and astral World and is a sister World to the third Dimension which is a physical World. Our World is a Solar System type World which depends upon our Sun for life force, light and oxygen. Therefore we live in a “reflected light” system. The fourth Dimension is not a Solar System type World and uses “direct lighting” which is ever present. It is not limited by any physical laws.
It is difficult for us to understand the nature of a non-physical World, therefore we cannot apply the physics or mathematics of our physical World to these other dimensional Worlds.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 9th, 2003, 3:13pm

[part2]

This concept would explain why UFOs are able to employ a higher form of physics and performance that we cannot comprehend. Let us stop trying to measure them with our six-inch ruler and learn to think with an abstract quantum physics type variation of logic.
That is the only way that we can understand the UFOs phenomena and comprehend the reality of other dimensional Worlds. e.g.:
2 plus 2 equal five. The shortest distance in Space is a curved line. Our law that for every action there is a reaction does not apply to the World of UFOs. That 2 bodies cannot occupy the same space at the same time is not true in the other dimensional Worlds of the UFOs.

It does not "feel" true to me that the UFOs are using atomic energy in their propulsion system. I believe that they are more advanced. I feel that this energy in their propulsion system is a "free" energy that exists throughout the entire Universe and I have named it, "Unified Energy Field ", and I believe that this energy plasma exists between Worlds and Dimensions and binds atoms and molecules in a polarized cohesion and is the cosmic "glue" that holds all things together and everything in its proper place.
It is my hope that our World will use this universal free energy as our energy of the future to replace oil and electricity.

In the beginning there was a Void and darkness and everything was pure energy and the energy was what we call the Creator [God]. In the center of the Universe in this Void and darkness there was in a gigantic explosion of energy and “bullets” of energy were propelled at high speeds, and some of this energy became Universes and Galaxies and Solar systems, and some of this energy became Souls.

The Creator in order to learn about “Itself” created Souls in “Its” own image so that Souls could be a mirror to ”Itself” and everything else was created to be the classrooms and schools for the Soul's education.
The Creator is a student like we are, to learn about “Itself”. If the Creator was perfect then “It” would have no purpose or reason to exist.
Visualize the Creator in its original state as pure energy. What is”It”? What are “Its” dimensions? What is “It” capable of? These were the questions that the Creator asked “Itself”.
The Creator realizing that It was “potential” and not “actual” decided to create from the body of “Itself” by converting pure energy into matter.
[This process is called Crystallization and the Church has misinterpreted this process and built a religion on this and called it, “Christ”.]
The Creator by using Creation, including us, as mirrors is able to see “Itself” and to learn about “Itself”.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 9th, 2003, 3:16pm

[part3]

When our Souls were first separated from the body of Energy which was the Creator and we were individualized with our own identity, we had the same potential powers as the Creator but we had no knowledge or wisdom and we did not know how to use our powers.

In our first incarnation we were sent to a multi-dimensional mental-energy World where we could exercise our mental and energy powers. We could create and destroy. This was like our play pen where we could express ourselves safely and not harm anything. In this first classroom we had no restrictions or limitations put upon us.
In the next incarnation we were sent to a World that had some restrictions. In each subsequent incarnation there were more and more restrictions and limitations. The purpose of this curriculum is to teach us by experience. Now we are in the classroom called Earth which is a three-dimensional world and which is Spiritual, Mental and Physical [Holy Trinity]. This is the most difficult school for Angels. We are the "fallen Angels" referred to in ancient books. However, we have descended from Angelic to Human in order to learn through the experience of working through limitations and restrictions.
But now it is graduation time for some of us. Some of us will ascend again to Angelic.
Many times Angels or “Angelic” U.F.O.s from higher dimensional Worlds are sent to lower Worlds to raise the vibrations or to monitor the activities of a Planet or World System if it is perceived that they are in danger of imminent self-destruction. This is what is being done on this Planet at this time.
This is done to maintain the balance and integrity of the Universe. The Universe is connected and interconnected like a gigantic chain wherein each link is dependent upon the other links. This is similar to the "ripple"effect of a stone being cast on the waters of a lake where the ripples travel and affect the surface of the whole lake.
There are no "islands" in the Universe. Every major event affects the entire Universe.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 9th, 2003, 3:17pm

[part4]

Why do we continuously limit Space travel and Time travel to the speed of light? This does not feel right to me. The speed of Light is a physical measurement. It belongs to this World system. It does not belong to Interdimensional travel or Time travel or Mind travel.
I wrote a letter to Stephen Hawking's and I mentioned to him my theory that “black holes” are like recycle ports whereby matter is sucked into the tunnel and recycled to come out at the other end in another Universe as pure energy. I also believe that the psychic Mind when engaged as a high level "remote viewer" can enter into a black hole, report what it sees and return without any harm. The Mind is, ”the final frontier”. The Mind is not affected by the limitations of the physical World. We should learn to use it as a research tool.


This is best illustrated by my own personal experiences where I have seen a microscopic “spark” of high intensity, brilliant white light appear on a white sheet of paper on my desk and the paper turned black by contrast. I “knew” that within this microscopic “spark” of high energy light were a multitude of individual Angels merged into this one “spark”. This experience taught me that in the “higher dimensional Worlds”, the individual maintains “Its” individual identity but is able to merge into a state of “oneness” with other Beings from the same World.

When you try to understand higher Worlds you have to change your thinking to a more abstract higher type of random logic. The mathematical and scientific logic does not work in other dimensional and UFOs research and understanding.
Think about this.

We are all travelers in Time. Everything in the Universe, including the Universe, is traveling in Time.
We cannot say that we are traveling in Space because
Space as we know it in the other dimensions of mental and energy Worlds does not exist.
Space in the physical Worlds coexists with matter as a relative convenience, and it should not be defined as an absolute term.
Time in its essence is a multifrequency state of vibration.
Understand that everything in the Universe, every state of Being, is a different frequency.

If we can see everything in the Universe as being separate and different frequency values and if we can calculate these frequency values, using Time as a fixed point of location, then we will have an equation for “Time Travel”.

The Universe is in the shape of a spiral and might be described as a gigantic serpent whose coils are spirals that go round and round but no coil touches another coil. This maintains a perpetual structure which is always in motion but which is always under control.
I've chosen to illustrate this philosophy symbolically because this subject is so profound. There is nothing random or accidental in the Universe or in all of Creation. If we can imagine a master clockmaker who has made all of the gears and wheels and parts to fit exactly and to engage and interact with all the other parts in the Universe, then we would have an idea of Creation and the "Creator". If we could concept that the sum of Creation is both the parts of Creation and the "Creator" itself, then we would be expanding our minds and our consciousness.

The sighting of an Angel or a UFO is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations.
I have been taught that the same Angel who comes to a religious Catholic as the Virgin Mary will come to the religious Jew as Moses, etc. etc.
This is similar to visitations from other dimensional Beings who come from non- physical Worlds. This has been described as "shape "shifting", "morphing", "holograms" etc. etc.

We have to learn to think inter-dimensionally in order to understand these different levels of reality.
I hope that I have not offended your religious beliefs. Irwyn Greif
What do you think?Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Nov 10th, 2003, 06:19am

There is a newer and growing theory, I'll try to find the link for you ( I think I know where I found it). The theory states that magnetic fields are possibly as much as one thousand times faster than the speed of light. Thus making it more reasonable and possible for intersellar travel. The theory was posted by scientists and is thought to be very plausible.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Nov 10th, 2003, 1:17pm

I'm not saying it isn't possible, or didn't happen, or whatever. All I'm saying is I want some o' dat stuff!
I'll keep and open mind and continue observing, while I have some of that wonderful...whatever it is grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Nov 10th, 2003, 1:19pm

oops...that was in response to page 2. undecided
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Nov 12th, 2003, 6:45pm

Hi Irwyn

RE: The last portion of your post........The sighting of an Angel or a UFO is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations."


What you say is an interesting point......and I believe that you could be right.

If I remember rightly, the Celts had the ability to "Shape Shift", also "Witch Doctors, Shamans etc" from different cultures around the globe.

Do you think that the UFO are shapeshifters and can travel here by thought and manifest themselves into our reality at will?

Given that they are probably thousands upon thousands of years ahead of us.......it is plausible.

I believe many answers to the riddle could be hidden in our past.

Layla



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Nov 13th, 2003, 7:59pm

I agree w/ what Layla says. There are ETs that manipulate UFOs and are not advanced enough to avoid human eyes but I imagine that there are ETs that might exist in higher dimensions and they can just enter our minds like in a dream. If they have that kind of power then they could take any form they want and there is absolutely no way to prove anything. Dreams aren't governed by logic so ... but dreams aren't reality either ...
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Nov 13th, 2003, 8:23pm

Gee, according to my oldest sister reality is over rated...but then again, recently she seems to skim that surface between reality and total illussion. Not that we all don't want that from time to time. grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 14th, 2003, 4:36pm

May I suggest an excellent tool for meditation. It is the CD entitled,"ENIGMA MCMXC A.D. To get the best results listen to this music with headphones.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 14th, 2003, 4:49pm

"The Intelligent Universe"
If my beliefs are correct that the Creator is both the crystallized or created matter and also the energy or un created matter then we have an interesting concept.
What if all Creation and everything that exists is living, intelligent energy plasma like a humongous fabric of Creation? What if the only differences between matter and energy is a difference in frequency? What if the way to navigate Creation and to travel interdimensionally is to be able to change the frequency?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Nov 19th, 2003, 02:24am

I agree on the Enigma cd...always one of my favorites, talk about relaxing!
On a different note, I keep getting this mail that irks me more than a tad. Don't you hate when a person claims to be psychic and hasn't got the slightest clue what psychic really means. If this person were actually psychic, they would know that the person they keep sending the mail to at my home address passed away three years ago. Talk about get a clue! tongue
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:11am

Because I work permanent nights, sometimes I find it really difficult to sleep properly. I went out and bought some relaxation tapes, You know the sort, waterfalls, birds cheeping, wolves howling etc. They were a god send, really worked. Is this what this Enigma cd is about, because I`ve never heard of it.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 4th, 2003, 2:20pm

Rob, the ENIGMA CD is not designed to put you to sleep. It is designed to raise your consciousness level and to excite your Alpha level. It is a great tool for meditation and to expand your ranges of awareness.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Dec 4th, 2003, 6:00pm

Hi Irwyn. Listern, I`ve never looked into meditation or that sort of thing before. Could you try to expand a little on your last post in the simplest way possible as so I could understand it. ie: Alpha levels and ranges or awareness. Hope you don`t mind cheesy.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 5th, 2003, 1:51pm

Rob, meditation can be used for relaxation or to touch different levels of the mind. When you are able to isolate your thoughts and to create a quietness within your mind you can reach higher levels of mental and spiritual awareness. Some of my highest thoughts are reached when I am in a state of meditation. The object is to become one with yourself and to enjoy a brief time of calmness and serenity which opens the door for you to enter into other dimensions of mental and spiritual perception.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Dec 14th, 2003, 8:53pm

on Dec 14th, 2003, 03:55am, Layla wrote:
Mores the pity that others don't try it, because it opens the gates to other dimensions. Instead of wondering, and saying I don't know if I believe that or not.....I say go there yourself......try it. Belief will change into knowing.


When I first came here I thought discussing experiences was a waste of time but then arguing and interpreting mysterious facts and observations is no more productive. I'm still more into the latter but there definitely is a need for the former so power to ya.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 20th, 2003, 5:48pm

Minitrue, "experience is the best teacher". To philosophize or to intellectualize or to theorize is kind of a secondhand or hearsay experience. To actually experience something is to realize it firsthand and that has a greater value. That's why it is easier for a child to understand God than an adult. The adult has so many preconceived and Pretaught facts and information that the adult is an encyclopedia of outdated and obsolete information. Stay with us, Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Dec 20th, 2003, 6:15pm

Irwin, when it comes right down to it I agree w/ u in that these ETs are not good and are kinda like angels. Most UFO enthusiasts are the complete opposite. It's just I've never been that interested in discussing experiences. And I'll also admit that I was very wrong when I said that true psychics would have the power to amass fortunes and dramatically change the world. A true psychic would be very miserable and paranoid now that I think about it. They would pick up so many negative feelings.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 22nd, 2003, 7:41pm

I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone on this web site happy and healthy holidays and the wish that this Planet can regain its sanity and enjoy peace on Earth. Amen

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:02pm


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:05pm

I received this information in an e-mail from one of my friends. I think you might find this interesting. This is the first part;

Last night I watched Dr. Steven Greer's video discussed by Nel in the NTAT
comments in yesterday's Dove Report. The video is of the May 9, 2001
conference held at the National Press Club in D.C. by Dr. Greer and to which
Dr. Greer invited major media and Congress. Dr. Greer has collected
testimony from over 400 witnesses who have first hand knowledge of the fact
that we have visitors from space who have been visiting our planet and at
times, protecting us. Dr. Greer and many others involved in the Disclosure
Project are calling for the U.S. government to tell the truth about these
benevolent visitors.

Although I've known there was a video of this May 9, 2001 conference, I had
no idea how impressive the 20+ witnesses would be. Most of the witnesses
received their first-hand experiences while in or working for the military.
Some also had experiences while working for NASA, the CIA,
or military contractors like Rockwell or Lockheed. I took brief notes of
what several witnesses said and am sharing some of my notes below. If you
have not viewed this video, I strongly suggest you do so.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:06pm

Part 2.
I viewed the video at this website:
www.topsecrettestimony.com/npcc_full.wmv I played the video on RealOne
Player which sometimes works better on my PC than Windows Player and the
audio and video was good quality. It took me a few hours to download on my
slow modem Internet connection but it was well worth it. You can also find
a way to watch the video on Dr. Greer's website:
http://www.disclosureproject.org/

Several witnesses discussed the visitors' craft appearing over U.S. nuclear
missile silos or weapons storage locations and neutralizing the weapons. I
learned that our space visitors - the benevolent Forces - have done this to
show that they can stop Earth Humans from launching nuclear
war. In fact, I'm told that the Forces have stopped nuclear war many dozens
of times in the last 50 years. The Forces have neutralized efforts to
launch nuclear strikes by the U.S. and also by Russia. I think we owe it to
the world to have the truth known and we all should realize that without the
intervention of our benevolent Forces, Earth's people would have suffered a
major nuclear war. We have the benevolent Forces to thank for the fact that
Earth's people have not had to experience large-scale nuclear war on Earth.

On March 16, 1967, Captain Robert Salas of the U.S. Air Force was on duty in
a facility deep underground in Montana monitoring 10 nuclear Minuteman
missiles for which he was responsible. He received a phone call from the
Security officer at the front gate of the facility telling him that they
were seeing a bright glowing red object in the sky nearby. Captain Salas
told the Security person to call back when he had something more interesting
to report and ignored the call. Later, Security called again and this time
were very nervous as they reported that the bright, glowing, red oval shape
object was hovering just above the ground directly before the front gate.
Suddenly, without Captain Salas or any other Earth Human doing anything, his
10 nuclear Minuteman missiles went from "ready" status to "no go" status.
The visitors had caused the missiles to switch to "no go" status as a
message that nuclear war will not be allowed on Earth. Having switched the
missiles to "no go", the bright red oval object left very quickly.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:08pm

Part 3.
Another witness was Sergeant Karl Wolfe of the US Air Force who had top
secret crypto clearance and was loaned to NASA in 1965 for the lunar orbital
project. He was sent to a particular NASA facility to do equipment repair
in 1965. On his way to the equipment, he saw many high level scientists
from around the world and was surprised but did not give it any more thought
until later when he was doing the equipment repair. He was taken to a room
to work on some NASA equipment and while he was in this high security room,
he saw pictures showing STRUCTURES on the dark, back side of the moon.

Donna Hare, a NASA employee from 1967 - 1981 on loan from Philco Ford, did
lunar maps for NASA in building 8. One day she went across the hall to do
some extra work and saw a NASA photo of a UFO over some trees somewhere on
Earth. The NASA employee she was helping told her UFOs often appeared in
NASA photos and got air brushed out before the photos were shown to the
public.

Major George Filer, III, U.S. Air Force was a pilot and then an intelligence
officer. In 1962 he was stationed at a base near London and he was
contacted by "London control" and asked to "chase" a UFO. The UFO did
appear on the plane's radar and then the UFO suddenly went off into space
and disappeared from the radar screen. He also heard about a UFO over
Tehran, Iran, and when the Iran planes tried to shoot down the UFO, the
plane's weapons failed to work.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:09pm

Part 4.
Sergeant Clifford Stone of the U.S. Army was assigned to do recovery of
crashed saucers and aliens. In 1969 he was stationed at Ft. Lee, Virginia,
and went to a nearby area "Indiantown" (?), Virginia where there was a crash
site with alien bodies. In all, he did 12 different recovery missions of
crashed UFOs; sometimes the aliens were dead, sometimes the aliens were
alive.

The accounts of first-hand experiences by the witnesses went as far back as
1947 and as late as 1995; most of these people were retired from the
positions in which they had these experiences. They mentioned that they
know other people whose experiences were even more in-depth but these people
would have to be "protected" before they would be able to share accounts of
their experiences.

Three other important issues were raised. There is a shadow government
running our country and this was proven when President Jimmy Carter
requested a full briefing from the CIA on everything the CIA knew about
visitors from space. The CIA Director at the time was none other than the
arrogant Illuminati, George H.W. Bush, aka, Bush Sr. Bush Sr. flatly
REFUSED to give the President of the United States this information! This
same flat refusal was given to Bill Clinton when as President of the U.S.,
he requested full disclosure from the CIA Director regarding UFOs and
visitors from space. If the President of the United States cannot obtain
this information from a "subordinate" CIA Director who is supposed to be
working for the President, then WHO is really running the country? The
Illuminati shadow government is running the U.S. and these two incidents
prove it.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:11pm

Part 5.
Another point was raised by witness Dr. Carol Rosin who worked with
brilliant scientist Werner Von Braun in 1973. Von Braun told her many times
that those controlling our country intended to build and implement a space
weapons program. He said that there would be some "cover stories" for the
military building of a space weapons program and that the first cover story
would be the Cold War with the Communists. In 1973, Von Braun said the
second cover story would be the "terrorist threat" and the government and
military would claim there were terrorists which had to be
defended against; this is exactly what we are seeing today. Von Braun said
the final cover story would be the government and military building space
weapons due to a non-existent alien threat.

It's easy to see that our space visitors are NOT a threat to us because they
have, with great ease, shut down our sophisticated nuclear weapons and have
STOPPED the U.S. and Russian efforts to launch nuclear war dozens of times
in the last 50 years. Also, since our space visitors can so easily
neutralize our weapons, if these space visitors had meant to harm us, they
would have already done so.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 26th, 2003, 5:15pm

Part6.
Dr. Steven Greer discusses the REAL reasons for the cover-up and the hidden
government's efforts to build an offensive space weapons program. He
mentions that our space visitors use energy technology which would
immediately solve all our energy needs and could give us non-polluting
energy technology to replace fossil fuels. He makes the point that those
who profit from fossil fuel sales are involved in hiding the truth. We
certainly know the Illuminati control all big oil companies and this is why
the Bush regime attacked Afghanistan for the oil pipeline and Iraq for the
Iraqi oil.

As I write this tonight, I'm watching a documentary on UFO cover-ups
centering around a crashed UFO in Rendlesham Forest in the UK in 1980. Many
military people who investigated the UFO are interviewed. British author,
Timothy Good, who wrote a book entitled "Above Top Secret" about
UFO sightings in England, is also interviewed. Bryant Gumbel, previously a
host of Today Show, is the investigative narrator of a series of
documentaries called Sci Fi Declassified Specials on UFO cover-ups on the
Sci-Fi cable network.
cool
what do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 9th, 2004, 04:55am

I was not able to sleep last night and my mind was receiving thoughts which I will share with you:

A long time ago certain U.F.O.s were given the assignment by higher intelligence to create a school for Angels. The UFOs designed a form and it was called Adam and it existed in the fourth Dimension in a place that we have called the Garden of Eden and it had the power of Angels to control its environment and itself. The Garden of Eden was a positive state and everything was controlled and was almost perfect. But Adam could not learn from experience in this perfect World so a new form was designed by the UFOs by splitting Adam in half into male and female and by creating the polarities of positive and negative.
The genetic code was programmed into these forms to become a higher form of physical animal and to be able to perceive and think and imagine and improvise in order to have mastery over the predatory beasts and animal forms of the physical World. And Man was born.

Then Adam and Eve were transported into a World that was prepared for them and this was the planet Earth. A system was designed to enable these Angel forms to learn from the experience of pain and pleasure, life-and-death and the recycling of reincarnation and this system was called,"The Wheel Of Karma".

In the beginning early Man in order to survive the predatory beasts had highly developed senses and the power of perception and the ability to improvise to make weapons of pointed sticks and clubs and eventually bows and arrows.
Man was also programmed to live and travel in groups and families. Because of the survival and competitive programming in the genes man was able to survive and to overcome the predatory animals. But the same programming in the genetic code that made Man a hunter also made Man a killer and soon Man began to hunt and to kill other families of Man and to steal their food and their furs and their women. This was the beginning of War.
The evolution of Man has always involved the development and perfection of weapons of destruction and warfare.
In order to counterbalance the destructive genes of Man the UFOs introduced music and art and knowledge. The Israelites were given a teaching that God was a Spirit without a name or a form in order to challenge the religions of that time which worshipped images and idols. A covenant was made with the Israelites that if they held faith with this teaching they would be protected by the UFOs. Another covenant was made with the Hopi Indians that if they respected nature and the Spirits of nature that they would be protected by the UFOs. This is part of the maintenance of Creation.

But now the UFOs are changing the genetic coding of millions of abductees to prepare Man for future incarnations and for the elimination of the, "Wheel Of Karma", system so that man can regain his Angelic awareness.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 15th, 2004, 09:31am

The following was sent to me in an e-mail from one of my friends. The implications are ominous; part1

It was scary to hear the gov't is watching very closely and don't want
people to start moving. Of course they are keeping everything from us.
Yellowstone has been closed all year. The ground temperatures are 200
degrees with (flammable) sulphur emerging all over and all the animals have
left. The earthquakes in WY in the past weeks were higher on the scale
than is being told and they went for 90 miles up to Yellowstone. If it
blows it can cover 500-600 miles and with any easterly wind, ash and debris
could land in NYC! Also, just today, Bush signed himself the authority over
the environment.
his record: http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/default.asp

At Alex's website here is the link for Monday, January 12 - Jim McCanney
interview:
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2004/asx/MOM20040112.asx

They also talk a lot about the comets and the LIES!! Jim McCanney is the
most complete scientist reporting the TRUTH on weather i have heard. And
how ridiculous the methods they use for reporting weather and what is
happening are total lies - when they could ACTUALLY use very ACCURATE and
TELLING methods. THey don't. THey use last years data and fiddle with it.
No truth to it AT ALL! Definitely listen to this one.

Alex also has an interview in the Archive on Thursday, January 08 with David
Booth
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2004/asx/MOM20040108.asx

i haven't heard this one but there is another link where he is also speaking
out about Yellowstone

I have heard about this from other sources also. The USGS has deliberately
been deleting or not even reporting earthquakes on their list of recent
earthquakes. They have also recently changed the Richter scale so that
earthquakes do not appear as strong as before. Someone from the USGS is
reported to have said that the order to underreport earthquakes came from
Washington DC.
Yuji


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 15th, 2004, 10:07am

part2

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Planet X Pending Passage Digest Number 368
Date: 14 Jan 2004 15:23:32 -0000
From: planetxpassage@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: planetxpassage-owner@yahoogroups.com
To: planetxpassage@yahoogroups.com

There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. James McCanney is now on with Alex Merklinger
From: "planetx2003" <laughlanetx2003@yahoo.com>
2. USGS continuing to downplay and delete quakes
From: "planetx2003" <laughlanetx2003@yahoo.com>

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:19:42 -0000
From: "planetx2003" <laughlanetx2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: James McCanney is now on with Alex Merklinger

James McCanney is now on with Alex Merklinger. He's been on 20 mins. It's
8:20 pm central time. Goto www.mysteriesofthemind.com They're talking about
sun - earth quakes and yellowstone.
mh

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 03:23:10 -0000
From: "planetx2003" <laughlanetx2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: USGS continuing to downplay and delete quakes

USGS continuing to downplay and delete quakes.

The downplaying and deleting of quakes is criminal. A greater number of
people would have paid attention to and acted on quake and other information
if it wasn't being dealt with in this fashion.

These acts are costing lives.

Some of their reasons for doing this are to prop-up certain local economies,
hide the increase in earthchanges and the inbound Planet X, keep the world
financial markets intact, and keep certain people in power.

This is something that is widely known and reported among us researchers in
and around the extra-solar-object/earthchange subject matter. Whether the
orders to do this came down exactly like the notes below say is not known
but it really matters not who ordered it or when, it's real.

USGS are following orders and are less culpable than the people giving them.
There's every reason to believe these actions will continue.

The following was posted on Tuatha's forum

Mark H

rschader Posted: Jan 12 2004, 07:05 PM

Researcher

Group: Members
Posts: 20
Member No.: 154
Joined: 11-October 03



QUOTE (Judy @ Jan 11 2004, 11:08 PM) Do any of you know anything about the
posting on James McCanney's website about an earthquake yesterday? It reads:
January 10, 2004 emergency posting . . . this morning 90 miles from
Anchorage Alaska a 7.1 earth quake registered and there has been an unusual
silence in the news media . . .

So far, I haven't found anything.
Judy


I know Tuatha doesn't like mentioning stuff from N.L.'s site, but the
following may be relevant to this situation too:

* * *

The major media is also not covering or downplaying other things like:

Hundreds See Fireballs Fall from Sky

MADRID (Reuters) - Hundreds of witnesses reported seeing fireballs cross the
skies of northern Spain Sunday in what authorities said may have been a
disintegrating meteorite, Spanish radio said.

The bright flashes were spotted at around 6:00 p.m. (1700 GMT) in a swathe
across the northern half of Spain, from the eastern city of Valencia to the
northwestern pilgrimage site of Santiago de Compostela.

In some cases, objects were reported to have fallen to earth.

"I left the house at around 12 minutes to six. I heard a big explosion, like
an earth tremor, and a white cloud of smoke formed around a nearby mountain
which took a long time to disappear," a local official from the northern
region of Palencia told the radio.

Civil Guard officials told the radio an object had plunged from the skies in
the northern province of Leon.
Spain's civil aviation authority ruled out the possibility of a plane crash.

Jose Angel Docobo, director of the University of Santiago's observatory,
said the phenomenon could have been caused by a rock orbiting the sun which
had collided with the earth.

Hundreds report seeing fireballs fall from sky in Spain
Monday, January 5, 2004 Posted: 2:02 PM EST (1902 GMT)

<http://i.cnn.net/cnn/images/1.gif>; A picture showing the bright
flashes that appeared in the sky over Spain.
<http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2004/TECH/space/01/05/spain.fireballs.reut/stor
y.meteo r.jpg> A picture showing the bright flashes that appeared in the sky
over Spain.* * *

There was also a meteor that hit Iran in the last few days that was totally
undereported.

What do you think? Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Jan 16th, 2004, 06:10am

Thanks for those posts Irwyn...they were very interesting.

About August-September 2002, we were sitting watching television, and it was around 8-8:30pm in the evening......all of a sudden there was a massive explosion and the whole night sky became day. The floors of our home shook. There was a glow for a few seconds and then all returned to normal.

We live in a remote area, and where the explosion was there are not a lot of inhabitants. Just the occasional remote farm.

In the local paper that week there was a small write up saying homes closer to the explosion had their house windows shattered, walls damaged....etc. There was no explanation as to what the explosioin was except it could have possibly been a meteorite.

The explosion was a very long way from where we live, yet it rocked the floors of our home, so whatever it was it must have been pretty big. Thank goodness it did not hit our town, cause there would have been nothing left of it.

We heard no more at all about the explosion and it left everyone wondering.....
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 31st, 2004, 10:30am

Layla, I do not believe that the explosion was a meteorite. I believe that the explosion and the shattered windows was the result of some explosion that happened in Space. I would search the astronomers reports for that time period to see if there were any unusual happenings in Space.
What do you think? Irwyn huh
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Feb 1st, 2004, 6:44pm

Wow Layla, Thats a brilliant report. I`ve heard nothing of this on my side of the big water. Do you have any links for me to look at.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Feb 1st, 2004, 11:57pm

A ground impact of that intensity may have left a seismic finger print that could be traced to origin of location.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 2nd, 2004, 03:27am

The explosion happened right out in the middle of nowhere (wilderness)...no one knew what it was......and it happened on a lovely night.....no storms around at all......
Quite perplexing......but it sure got us out of our seats pretty fast.

We might never know what it was....or the exact point of impact. It turned night into day it was so bright.

So there might be a big chunk of meteorite laying out there or a big crator, or even a wrecked spacecraft.....who knows! Someone might find it one day. A plane came down in the 50's out there and was only found a few years back.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 2nd, 2004, 12:22pm

layla,
great report , have you ever heard of gosse bluff a crater formed north of ularu in n.t. that was a comet strike.the original crater was 20k in diameter (12 miles),although today it's only 4k across. it only penetrated about 800m into the ground but blew up 150sq miles of the surrounding land . they reckon it sent shock waves around the world , and would have blotted out the sun and darkened the skies in the southern hemisphere for months . apparantly the area is pock marked with meteor craters. maybe a window in the atmosphere . don't need any more of those.
on more of a phsychic note. back in 1968 , they used to read telegrams from overseas over the phone . i answered a call one morning from the uk and before i could tell my mother that it was the pmg calling she said " it's alright grandads dead " and he was. the telegram confirming it. when i asked her later how she knew , she said " i saw him in a dream last night and he told me not to worry" and that was all she needed to say. family ties, stronger than we understand.

god bless
diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 2nd, 2004, 3:37pm

Hi Diamond, I think I have heard about that crator in the NT.....but cannot remember much about it, must ask one of my family who live up there. A crator 12 miles wide would not even be noticed out there in that wilderness.........and in Qld, the vegetation would grow over it again pretty fast.

Strange you should say that about your Grandfathers death, because I had a similar experience when my father died. I was with him when he passed and when I got home from the hospital I rang a brother to tell him. Because he was stationed so far away he could not be there, and he said that Dad had already visited him, and knew the exact time my father had passed. Another strange factor about that was my brother said he awoke in a cold sweat to see our father standing at the end of his bed, and Dad spoke to him. When our father died he was in a cold sweat.






Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:57pm

I had a friend back in high school who had almost the same experience except it was his grandmother who visited each member of the family in their bedroom the night she died. Wierd.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 3rd, 2004, 02:38am

Hi Backlit

I have heard so many stories like that one over the years, I think its rather wonderful and brings great comfort for those that are grieving thier loved ones.

My own mother came to me after she passed and gave me a message, and one that I listened to and did something about.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 3rd, 2004, 11:19am

gees, i'd like to get all of you around a campfire on a crystal clear night . i reckon we could spin a few yarns eh. almost every day i hear the most amazing stories from ordinary people and now on the web i get to read more . this is truly a wonderful site and a credit to all who contribute . thankyou . life is good.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 3rd, 2004, 4:01pm

Hi Diamond,

I find people are becoming more open to talking about these things........once upon a time it was not so, and if you had an experience like that you were labeled and put into a little box.

Now that people are becoming more open, we will see a greater opening of minds......and be more able to piece things together......not only on a spiritual level but also the UFO riddle and other riddles will come together and form a picture/pattern......so the collective mind will understand more of what this phenomena is.

The internet is a great tool........and is breaking down barriers.

Gosh Diamond we lot would talk for weeks on end........and end up starving.......we had better take plenty of food and drink to the campsite..... tongue...just kiddin.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 4th, 2004, 11:37am

i'm trying to find a book written sometime in the 70's i think . it was about the crash of the r101 an airship built by the brits, that crashed in belgium or france early last century . it had a distinctive psychic link and apart from being a good read was a true story that caused quite a fracus at the time. can anybody point me in the right direction?
diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:11pm

Does anybody realize that our web site is reaching thousands of people and that our communications are helping to expand people's consciousness levels?

Regarding the latest postings. There are areas on our planet that have unusual vibrations and that attract unusual events. I believe that these are portals into other Dimensions similar to the Bermuda triangle area.

Let us continue to share information. Irwyn cool


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:16pm

This is an e-mail which I received from my friend Ruth that I would like to share with you now. Irwyn. Part 1

From: Mobile Sustainable Community -
> > > Mellen-Thomas Benedict's near-death experience
> > >
> > > THROUGH THE LIGHT
> > >
> > > Mellen-Thomas Benedict is an artist who survived a near-death
experience
> in 1982. He was dead for over an hour and a half and during that time, he
> rose up out of his body and went into the Light. Curious about the
universe,
> he was taken far into the remote depths of existence, and even beyond,
into
> the energetic Void of Nothingness behind the Big Bang. Concerning his
> near-death experience, Dr. Kenneth Ring has said, "His story is one of the
> most remarkable I have encountered in my extensive research on near-death
> experiences."
> > >
> > > THE ROAD TO DEATH
> > >
> > > In 1982 I died from terminal cancer. The condition I had was
> inoperable, and any kind of chemotherapy they could give me would just
have
> made me more of a vegetable. I was given six to eight months to live. I
had
> been an information freak in the 1970's, and I had become increasingly
> despondent over the nuclear crisis, the ecology crisis, and so forth.
> > >
> > > So, since I did not have a spiritual basis, I began to believe that
> nature had made a mistake, and that we were probably a cancerous organism
on
> the planet. I saw no way that we could get out from all the problems we
had
> created for ourselves and the planet. I perceived all humans as cancer,
and
> that is what I got. That is what killed me. Be careful what your world
> view is. It can feed back on you, especially if it is a negative world
view.
> I had a seriously negative one. That is what led me into my death. I
tried
> all sorts of alternative healing methods, but nothing helped.
> > >
> > > So I determined that this was really just between me and God. I had
> never really faced God before, or even dealt with God. I was not into any
> kind of spirituality at the time, but I began a journeyinto learning about
> spirituality and alternative healing. I set out to do all the reading I
> could and bone up on the subject, because I did not want to be surprised
on
> the other side. So I started reading on various religions and
philosophies.
> > > They were all very interesting, and gave hope that there was something
> on the other side.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, as a self-employed stained-glass artist at the
time,
> I had no medical insurance whatsoever. So my life savings went overnight
in
> testing. Then I was facing the medical profession without any kind of
> > > insurance. I did not want to have my family dragged down financially,
> so I determined to handle this myself. There was not constant pain, but
> there were black-outs. I got so that I would not dare to drive, and
> eventually I ended up in hospice care.
> > >
> > > I had my own personal hospice caretaker. I was very blessed by this
> angel who went through the last part of this with me. I lasted about
> eighteen months. I did not want to take a lot of drugs, since I wanted to
> be as conscious as possible. Then I experienced such pain that
> > I had nothing but pain in my consciousness, luckily only for a few days
at
> a time.
> > >
> > > THE LIGHT OF GOD
> > >
> > > I remember waking up one morning at home about 4:30 am, and I just
knew
> that this was it. This was the day I was going to die. So I called a few
> friends and said goodbye. I woke up my hospice caretaker and told her. I
> had a private agreement with her that she would leave my dead body alone
for
> six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen
when
> you die. I went
> > back to sleep.
> > >
> > > The next thing I remember is the beginning of a typical near-death
> experience. Suddenly I was fully aware and I was standing up, but my body
> was in the bed. There was this darkness around me. Being out of my body
> was even more vivid than ordinary experience. It was so vivid that I
could
> see every room in the house, I could see the top of the house, I could see
> around the house, I could see under the house.
> > >
> > > There was this Light shining. I turned toward the Light.
> > > The Light was very similar to what many other people have described
in
> their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible;
you
> can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to
> > go to your ideal mother's or father's arms. As I began to move toward

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:21pm

Part 2.

the
> Light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the Light, I would be dead.
So
> as I was moving toward the Light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold
> on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you
> before I go."
> > >
> > > To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are
> indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller
> coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with
> the Light. The Light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus,
> Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs. I asked the
Light,
> "What is going on here? Please, Light, clarify yourself for me. I really
> want to know the reality of the situation." I cannot really say the exact
> words, because it was sort of telepathy.
> > >
> > > The Light responded. The information transferred to me was that your
> beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the Light. If
you
> were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of
> > > your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but
> most people do not.
> > > As the Light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was
> really seeing was our Higher Self matrix.
> > >
> > > The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a
mandala
> of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in
each
> of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us
comes
> directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher
> Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its
> truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the
being
> of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but
> it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has.
> We are directly connected to the Source.
> > >
> > > So the Light was showing me the Higher Self matrix. And it became
very
> clear to me that all the Higher Selves are connected as one being, all
> humans are connected as one being, we are actually the same being,
different
> > > aspects of the same being. It was not committed to one particular
> religion.
> > > So that is what was being fed back to me. And I saw this mandala of
> human souls. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I just
went
> into it and, it was just over- whelming. It was like all the love you've
> every
> > > wanted, and it was the kind of love that cures, heals, regenerates.
> > >
> > >
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:29pm

PART3.

> As I asked the Light to keep explaining, I understood what the Higher
> Self matrix is. We have a grid around the planet where all the Higher
> Selves are connected. This is like a great company, a next subtle level of
> energy
> > > around us, the spirit level, you might say. Then,after a couple of
> minutes, I asked for more clarification. I really wanted to know what the
> universe is about, and I was ready to go at that time. I said "I am
ready,
> take me." Then the Light turned into the most beautiful thing that I have
> ever seen: a mandala of human souls on this planet.
> > >
> > > Now I came to this with my negative view of what has happen on the
> planet.
> > > So as I asked the light to keep clarifying for me, I saw in this
> magnificent mandala how beautiful we all are in our essence, our core. We
> are the most beautiful creations. The human soul, the human matrix that
we
> all make together is absolutely fantastic, elegant, exotic,
> every- thing. I just cannot say enough about how it changed my opinion
of
> human beings in that instant.
> > >
> > > I said, "Oh, God, I did not know how beautiful we are." At any
level,
> high or low, in whatever shape you are in, you are the most beautiful
> creation, you are. I was astonished to find that there was no evil in any
> soul. I
> > > said "How can this be?" The answer was that no soul was inherently
> evil.
> > > The terrible things that happened to people might make them do evil
> things, but their souls were not evil. What all people seek, what
sustains
> them, is love, the Light told me. What distorts people is a lack of love.
> > >
> > > The revelations coming from the Light seemed to go on and on, then I
> asked the Light, "Does this mean that humankind will be saved?" Then,
like
> a trumpet blast with a shower of spiraling lights, the Great Light
spoke,
> saying, "Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal
> yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the
> power to do
> > so from before the beginning of the world."
> > >
> > > In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY
> BEEN SAVED, and we saved ourselves because we were designed to
self-correct
> > > like the rest of God's universe. This is what the second coming is
> about.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:32pm

Part 4.
> the entire Holographic Universe and more.
> > >
> > > As I passed into the second Light, the awareness came to me that I had
> just transcended the Truth. Those are the best words I have for it, but I
> will try to explain. As I passed into the second Light, I expanded beyond
> the
> > > First Light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all
> silence.
> > I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity.
> > I was in the Void.
> > >
> > > I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the
> beginning of time - the First Word - the First vibration. I was in the
Eye
> of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a
> religious feeling. Simply I was at one with Absolute Life and
> Consciousness.
> > >
> > > When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could
> experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning
and
> without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists
> perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the Universe. I saw
> that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating
> Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come
> close in
> > human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal
> geometry equations.
> > >
> > > The ancients knew of this. They said Godhead periodically created
new
> Universes by breathing out, and de-creating other Universes by breathing
> in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big
> Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all
> the Big Bangs or Yugas
> creating and de-creating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all
> simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has
the
> power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still
> speechless about this.
> > >
> > > It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for
the
> Void experience. I can tell you this now; the Void is less than nothing,
> yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos
> > forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than
> even Universal Intelligence.
> > >
> > > Where is the Void? I know. The Void is inside and outside everything.
> You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the Void
> simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there.
> > > The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical
> manifestations.
> > > The SPACE between atoms and their components.
> > >
> > > Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They
> call it Zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go
> off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet,
> > > to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in
your
> own body and the Universe than anything else!
> > >
> > > What mystics call the Void is not a void. It is so full of energy, a
> different kind of energy that has created everything that we are.
> Everything since the Big Bang is vibration, from the first Word, which is
> the first vibration. The biblical "I am" really has a question mark after
> it. "I am - What am I?"
> > >
> > > So creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable,
in
> an ongoing, infinite exploration through every one of us. Through every
> piece of hair on your head, through every leaf on every tree, through
every
> > atom, God is exploring God's Self, the great "I am". I began to see
that
> everything that is, is the Self, literally, your Self, my Self.
Everything
> is the great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is
> possible because wherever you are is the center of the universe. Wherever
> any atom is, that is the center of the universe. There is God in that,
and
> God in the Void.
> > >
> > > As I was exploring the Void and all the Yugas or creations, I was
> completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I
> discovered that creation is about Absolute Pure Consciousness, or God,
> coming into the Experience of Life as we know it. The Void itself is
devoid
> of experience. It is pre-life, before the first vibration. Godhead is
about
> more than Life and Death. Therefore there is even more than Life and
Death
> to experience in the Universe!
> > >
> > > I was in the Void and I was aware of everything that had ever been
> created. It was like I was looking out of God's eyes. I had become God.
> Suddenly I wasn't me anymore. The only thing I can say, I was
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:34pm

Part 5.
looking out
> of God's eyes. And suddenly I knew why every atom was, and I could see
> everything. The interesting point
> was that I went into the Void, I came back with this
> understanding that God is not there. God is here. That's what it is all
> about.
> > >
> > > So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God ...
God
> gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where it's at. And
what
> we are into now is God's exploration of God through us. People are so
> > busy trying to become God that they ought to realize that we are already
> God and God is becoming us. That's what it is really about.
> > >
> > > When I realized this, I was finished with the Void, and wanted to
return
> to this creation, or Yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do.
> > > Then I suddenly came back through the second Light, or the Big Bang,
> hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness
back
> through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The super clusters
> > of galaxies came through me with even more insights.
> > >
> > > I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole.
Black
> holes are the great processors or recyclers of the Universe. Do you know
> what is on the other side of a Black Hole? We are; our galaxy; which has
> been reprocessed from another Universe. In its total energy
configuration,
> the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. All energy this side
of
> the Big Bang is light. Every sub-atom, atom, star, planet, even
> consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle.
> Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even
> stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the Light of
God;
> everything is very intelligent.
> > >
> > > THE LIGHT OF LOVE
> > >
> > > As I rode the stream on and on, I could eventually see a huge Light
> coming. I knew it was the First Light; the Higher Self Light Matrix of
our
> solar system. Then the entire solar system appeared in the Light,
> accompanied by one of those velvet booms.
> > >
> > > I saw that the solar system we live in is our larger, local body.
This
> is our local body and we are much bigger than we imagine. I saw that the
> solar system is our body. I am a part of this, and the earth is this
great
> > created being that we are, and we are the part of it that knows that it
> is. But we are only that part of it. We are not everything, but we are
> that part of it that knows that it is.
> > >
> > > I could see all the energy that this solar system generates, and it is
> an incredible light show! I could hear the Music of the Spheres. Our
solar
> system, as do all celestial bodies, generates a unique matrix of light,
> > > sound and vibratory energies. Advanced civilizations from other star
> systems can spot life as we know it in the universe by the vibratory or
> energy matrix imprint. It is child's play. The earth's Wonder Child
(human
> beings)
> > > make an abundance of sound right now, like children playing in the
> backyard of the universe.
> > >
> > > I rode the stream directly into the center of the Light. I felt
> embraced by the Light as it took me in with its breath again, followed by
> another soft sonic boom.
> > >
> > > I was in this great Light of Love with the stream of life flowing
> through me. I have to say again, it is the most loving, non-judgmental
> Light. It is the ideal parent for this Wonder Child.
> > >
> > > "What now?" I wondered.
> > >
> > > The Light explained to me that there is no death; we are immortal
> beings. We have already been alive forever! I realized that we are part
of
> a natural living system that recycles itself endlessly. I was never told
> that I had to come back. I just knew that I would. It was only natural,
> from what I had seen.
> > >
> > > I don't know how long I was with the Light, in human time. But there
> came a moment when I realized that all my questions had been answered and
my
> return was near. When I say that all my questions were answered on the
> other side, I mean to say just that. All my questions have been answered.
> Every human has a different life and set of questions to explore. Some of
> our questions are Universal, but each of us is exploring this thing we
call
> Life in our own unique way. So is every other form of life, from
mountains
> to every leaf on every tree.
> > >
> > > And that is very important to the rest of us in this Universe. Because
> it all contributes to the Big Picture, the fullness of Life. We are
> literally God exploring God's Self in an infinite Dance of Life. Your
> uniqueness enhances all of Life.
> > >
> > > His return to earth

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:39pm

Part 6.
As I began my return to the life cycle, it never crossed my mind, nor
> was I told, that I would return to the same body. It just did not matter.
> I had complete trust in the Light and the Life process. As the stream
> > merged with the great Light, I asked never to forget the revelations and
> the feelings of what I had learned on the other side.
> > >
> > > There was a "Yes". It felt like a kiss to my soul.
> > >
> > > Then I was taken back through the Light into the vibratory realm
again.
> > > The whole process reversed, with even more information being given to
> me. I came back home, and I was given lessons on the mechanics of
> reincarnation. I was given answers to all those little questions I had:
> > > "How does this work? How does that work?" I knew that I would be
> reincarnated.The earth is a great processor of energy, and individual
> consciousness evolves out of that into each one of us.
> > >
> > > I thought of myself as a human for the first time, and I was happy to
be
> that. From what I have seen, I would be happy to be an atom in this
> universe. An atom. So to be the human part of God ... this is the most
> fantastic blessing. It is a blessing beyond our wildest estimation of
> > what blessing can be. For each and every one of us to be the human part
> of this experience is awesome, and
> > > magnificent. Each and every one of us, no matter where we are,
screwed
> up or not, is a blessing to the planet, right where we are.
> > >
> > > So I went through the reincarnation process expecting to be a baby
> somewhere. But I was given a lesson on how individual identity and
> consciousness evolve. So I reincarnated back into this body. I was so
> surprised when I opened my eyes. I do not know why, because I understood
> it, but it was still such a surprise to be back in this body, back in my
> room with someone looking over me crying her eyes out. It was my hospice
> caretaker. She had given up an hour and a half after finding me dead. She
> was sure I was dead; all the signs of death were there - I was getting
> stiff.
> > >
> > > We do not know how long I was dead, but we do know that it was an hour
> and a half since I was found. She honored my wish to have my newly dead
> body left alone for a few hours as much as she could. We had an amplified
> stethoscope and many ways of checking out the
> > > vital functions of the body to see what was happening. She can verify
> that I really was dead. It was not a near-death experience. I
experienced
> death itself for at least an hour and a half. She found me dead and
> checked the stethoscope, blood pressure and heart rate monitor for an hour
> and a half.
> > > Then I awakened and saw the light outside. I tried to get up to go to
> it, but I fell out of the bed. She heard a loud "clunk", ran in and found
> me on the floor.
> > >
> > >
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:40pm

Part 7.
When I recovered, I was very surprised and yet very awed about what
had
> happened to me. At first all the memory of the trip that I have now was
not
> there. I kept slipping out of this world and kept asking, "Am I alive?"
> > > This world seemed more like a dream than that one. Within three days,
I
> was feeling normal again,clearer, yet different than I had ever felt in my
> life.
> > > My memory of the journey came back later. I could see nothing wrong
> with any human being I had ever seen. Before that I was really
> judgmental. I thought a lot of people were really screwed up, in fact I
> thought that
> > > everybody was screwed up but me. But I got clear on all that.
> > >
> > > About three months later a friend said I should get tested, so I went
> and got the scans and so forth. I really felt good, so I was afraid of
> getting bad news. I remember the doctor at the clinic looking at the
before
> and after scans, saying, "Well, there is nothing here now." I said,
> "Really, it must be a miracle?"
> > > He said "No, these things happen, they are called spontaneous
> remission." He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was
> impressed, even if no one else was.
> > >
> > > LESSONS HE LEARNED
> > >
> > > The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The
> universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is
helpful;
> it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our
> hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.
> > >
> > > The center of the earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as
you
> see in pictures of our earth's magnetic field. That's our cycle, pulling
> reincarnated souls back in and through it again. A sign that you are
> reaching human level is that you are beginning to evolve an individual
> consciousness.
> > >
> > > The animals have a group soul, and they reincarnate in group souls. A
> deer is pretty much going to be a deer forever. But just being born a
> human, whether deformed or genius, shows that you are on the path to
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:46pm

Part 8.
developing an individual consciousness. That is in itself part of the
> > group consciousness called humanity.
> > >
> > > I saw that races are personality clusters. Nations like France,
Germany
> and China each have their own personality. Cities have personalities,
their
> local group souls that attract certain people. Families have group souls.
> > > Individual identity is evolving like branches of a fractal; the group
> soul explores in our individuality. The different questions that each of
us
> has are very, very important. This is how Godhead is exploring God's
Self -
> through you. So ask your questions, do your searching. You will find
your
> Self and you will find God in that Self, because it is only the Self.
> > >
> > > More than that, I began to see that each one of us humans are soul
> mates. We are part of the same soul fractaling out in many creative
> directions, but still the same. Now I look at every human being that I
ever
> see, and I see a soul mate, my soul mate, the one I have always been
looking
> for. Beyond that, the greatest soul mate that you will ever have is
> yourself.
> > >
> > > We are each both male and female. We experience this in the womb and
we
> experience this in reincarnation states. If you are looking for that
> ultimate soul mate outside of yourself, you may never find it; it is not
> there. Just as God is not "there". God is here. Don't look "out
> > > there" for God. Look here for God. Look through your Self. Start
> having the greatest love affair you ever had ... with your Self. You will
> love everything out of that.
> > >
> > > I had a descent into what you might call Hell, and it was very
> surprising.
> > > I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into Hell was a descent into
> each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of
> not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the
millions
> of souls
> > > around me had a little star of light always available. But no one
> seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own
grief,
> trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling
> out to that
> > > Light, like a child calling to a parent for help.
> > >
> > >
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 1:47pm

Part 9.
Then the Light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me an
> insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what Hell really is.
> > So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The
> doors of Hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk
> out of Hell together. The Light came to me and turned into a huge golden
> angel.
> > I said, "Are you the angel of death?" It expressed to me that it was my
> oversoul, my Higher Self matrix, a super-ancient part of ourselves. Then
I
> was taken to the Light.
> > >
> > > Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn't that going to be
> wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle
> energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash
> atoms to
> > see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm,
and
> all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing
> that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that ...
God.
> > >
> > > With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but
they
> are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived
milliseconds
> and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating
> > too, as we go along. As I saw forever, I came to a realm in which there
> is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next
fractal,
> the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is
> God expanding itself through us.
> > >
> > > Since my return I have experienced the Light spontaneously, and I have
> learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. Each
one
> > > of you can do this. You do not have to die to do this. It is within
> your equipment; you are wired for it already.The body is the most
> magnificent Light being there is. The body is a universe of incredible
> Light. Spirit
> > > is not pushing us to dissolve this body. That is not what is
happening.
> Stop trying to become God; God is becoming you. Here.
> > >
> > > The mind is like a child running around the universe, demanding this
and
> thinking it created the world. But I ask the mind: "What did your mother
> have to do with this?" That is the next level of spiritual awareness. Oh!
> > my mother! All of a sudden you give up the ego, because you are not the
> only soul in the universe.
> > >
> > > One of my questions to the Light was "What is Heaven?" I was given a
> tour of all the heavens that have been created: the Nirvanas, the Happy
> Hunting
> Grounds, all of them. I went through them. These are thought form
> creations that we have created. We don't really go to heaven; we are
> reprocessed.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2004, 2:19pm

I agree with most of this writing and I have experienced some of this near death experience revelations. However, I do not limit myself to identify the Intelligence that created the Universe by any name, or title or sexual representation. I also disagree with the theory of a "second coming" as I do not give credence to any individual portraying the "Creator Principle". Thank you for your kind attention.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 5th, 2004, 4:38pm

I have had quite similar experiences Irwyn.

Quote:
We are literally God exploring God's Self in an infinite Dance of Life.


I will agree with that statement, and I agree with most of all that you have quoted.


Quote:
I also disagree with the theory of a "second coming" as I do not give credence to any individual portraying the "Creator Principle


I disagree with the above statement though....(to put it simply without going into too much detail as this is a very deep subject) we were given free will, and although God is in all (spirit), the body has a personality of its own......therefore it is important that God sends down teachers...to guide man from his dreaming state. Everyone is at different levels of awareness....
If God did not send down teachers (manifestations of God on earth (reflecting Godly qualities) then this world would be a sorry place. Because we have free will, we can easily live like animals or rise above it......by sending us teachers, God offers us the chance to rise above our basest natures.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Feb 5th, 2004, 7:36pm

As you said Layla, this is a very deep subject for some, as for me personally I cannot beleive that there is one almighty spirit that looks down on the earth and its subjects and controls what people think or even control ones destiny. All this is done by the individual person. Life is simpley win or lose, you follow the path you follow, nobody can influence that. There has been to many bad things happen over just the last 20 years for me to put my faith in one entity that I have never seen. We make our own destinys. As for the church and I mean any church or faith, where do they get off trying to dictate to people what they should or should not beleive in. The whole religeous thing is just a money spinner. Look at the wealth the pope has in Rome. Its a city within a city and they all walk around in brilliant finarys while 1/2 of the world starves and begs off other countries. Is this how the one almighty planned the world to become. The church takes money and only gives back a meagre percentage. Where does the rest go. These people are a law above the law and thats not right. How can anyone beleive in a god these days when so many terrible things happen. Has the Devil won his place on earth. Why does this god never answer peoples prayers. As you may of guessed Its not that I don`t beleive, its just that there is no conclusive eveidence that god does or ever did exist. Again they are just stories that have been passed down from century t century and each passing adds just a little more each timeits told.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Feb 5th, 2004, 10:05pm

Timetraveler that is a fascinating story!
Layla, how did you formulate your beliefs?
Hang in there Rob!
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 6th, 2004, 04:09am

Hi Rob....

Well Rob I am going to have to agree with you on churches (no offense meant to anyone reading this board grin) We are all on our own spiritual journies. Man has taken the teachings and used them for their own gain, control, and in some cases twisted them to their own set of beliefs.

I have heard many stories over my lifetime of prayers being answered.....but mine hasn't, still waiting to win Lotto!! grin

Like I said this is a deep subject.

We have all suffered in various ways Rob..(Layla hugs Rob) ....when I think how my father suffered at the hands of the Japanese during the war.....I weep.....nothing that has ever happened to me could ever compare to his suffering....and to top it off he died of Cancer.

Hi Backlit
I arrived at that understanding from experiences...that I won't go into, but similar to Irwyns......we are different personalities.....arriving at different destinations....from our experiences.

I believe for all we know, we are only touching the tip of the iceberg....

I have no desire to offend anyone with my beliefs.... lipsrsealed



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 6th, 2004, 2:47pm

thanks irwyn that was most enlightening .i have always believed that love is god and therefore god is love , didn't his son say something like " i give you all a new commandment , love one another " every poet or songwriter talk about love in their works. i wonder how many of them understand what it really is? eileen garret the great phsycic who died in 1970 believed that she could read emotions by the colours of peoples aura's, as a young girl she was upset when she found out that most people cannot see aura's let alone interpret them. she really had a gift and helped me modify my views about what was real or not. since coming to this website i have been able to grasp more than i ever imagined on many subjects . some ideas confirming beliefs i already had and others opening my mind to new possibilities. thank you all . i'll try to contribute where i can, but at the moment you are all blowing me away.
layla i don't believe you offend anybody.from what i have read i can only see that you have an abundance of love in your heart may all our gods bless you.
rob i couldn't agree with you more . organized religion has done more to hurt the human spirit than to help it . it is only a tool of control devised to keep people from free thought by using the fear of god to stop them reaching their full potential. it's a shame that there may not be any fire in hell because some of the clergy and polititians i know could use a dose of it.

diamond

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 6th, 2004, 3:09pm

I'm so happy to be in the company of such beautiful people. Each person has their own reality and their own belief system. Believe in yourself.

When you have had the most personal experience of a cosmic consciousness you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a cosmic consciousness or similar experience.
When I had my cosmic consciousness experience I felt I was going "home" to my Creator. At no time during this supreme experience did I see or feel any person or human like figure. What I experienced was a feeling of total love of a quality and purity such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system. For a few seconds in time I was one with the Universe. I was able to know and understand everything. I was connected to the total of our existence. When I returned into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much greater and more real than the physical reality of my life. This was a greater reality and it gave me hope and belief that existence and the Universe was beautiful and was intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding, but that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.

What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Feb 6th, 2004, 8:16pm

Layla, thanks for the hug wink. Diamond, you say god is love and love is god and yet god lets so many suffer. Why. Laylas father for example fought for peoples freedom and as a reward gained Cancer. My father died at xmas having given his all for his country and his death was slow and agonizing, that was his reward and we could go on and on. Please don`t think I am singleing you out I mean no offence. 90% of all deaths throughout the ages can be in one way or another attributed to religeon. So why would god have us fight amongst ourselves to decide who worships who! Layla, I beleive that miracles are simply that. There is no divine intervention. These have been happening since year dot, but there only divine because we are told so in books. Diamond you are of course correct about the politicians. It could be said that its not god who makes us suffer but the politicans who hold the purse strings. Irwyn, I thank you for continuing to try to enlighten me and one day perhaps I`ll get there. The 3 of you are truley wonderful people with an insaitiable thirst for life wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 7th, 2004, 2:50pm

thanks irwyn, likewise to you.
no offence taken rob please accept my condolences on your loss. i ask myself the same question many times , and although i cannot answer it fully i'll try and outline my truth for what it's worth. instead of asking why does god let this happen ? i say why do we humans do to each other what we do in the name of god (love)? how often do we hear of crimes of passion in which the murderer cry's out in his/ her pathetic defence that he /she did it because they loved them so much they couldn't bear to be without them? it seems to me that suffering is an integral part of being human, and although we would all prefer to see that it does not happen , we none the less learn (well those with any compassion) a lot from what we ourselves , or others experience. i also watched a close friend die of renal failure a few years back and the last thing he said before passing was "no more pain" . i will never forget the calmness that came over him in his last minutes. this i believe was god lifting his burden. now i'm not a religeous zealot , in fact if i were to walk into a church it would probably fall down. but i do believe in the teachings of j.c. and have come to that without being indocrinated into any organised faith. i believe that he was a man of flesh and bone just like any other man , yet he had reached total enlightenment. he saw suffering and tried to do something about it . he died trying to lift the burden of suffering from man .if only they would live by his code. love one another. simple . if every body in the world could find it in their hearts to love his/her fellow man/woman then suffering for all would end . by now we should have found cures for all known dieases , wars should have ceased completely, greed should not exist for there should have been plenty for all.etc.etc. i believe that god is still waiting for the penny to drop and until it does it will be the same ol' same ol'. we mustn't complicate what is truly a simple message , but corruption and greed ....... i don't need to elaborate. maybe our little friends learnt this many eons ago and are puzzled as to why we havn't. i wish i had all the answers, but every day i see random acts of kindness that restore my faith in humankind and one day in the not too distant future maybe the penny will drop on all. and after all when we die it is only our physical self that perishes. imagine the world if when everybody recieved an act of kindness they were to pass it on threefold. just as an experiment , next time you do something nice for somebody just say "pass it on" and explain why . it could become a habit.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 8th, 2004, 09:30am

not sure whether this belongs here , but a report on qld channel 7 this evening described a young girl in russia ( i think) who is baffling scientists with her claims that she has xray vision and can see what is ailing people on the inside. hmmm. will try to get more info.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2004, 5:42pm

I received this in an e-mail from my friend Ruth. I pass this along for your information: what do you think? Irwyn

Major Ed Dames,
Remote Viewer, on Coast to Coast Sunday night with Art Bell!
His websites are listed below.
Bio
The world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, Major, U.S. Army (Ret.), served as the training and operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's psychic intelligence collection unit, and currently serves as executive director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, a private consulting group. Ed is a technical consultant for the feature film "Suspect Zero," (a Tom Cruise-Paula Wagner production), and plays the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in the movie, as well.

Websites

remoteviewing2004.com

arealiensreal.com

matrixintelligenceagency.com

mindazzletraining.com




Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 10th, 2004, 1:08pm

thanks irwyn. i visited the sights . seems to me that the good major is cashing in on his knowledge . should be an interesting film when it comes out. there is certainly plenty to talk about relating to the subject. my mind ,as always' is open. having said that i tend to think that we are using the dream state , so to speak , when we experience out of body or clairvoyent type episodes. with the amount of brainpower that we humans use, it's not hard to imagine that the rest of that wonderful organ would be engaged in unconcious travel ,esp, etc. the biggest problem is knowing how to turn these functions on and off at will. some fortunate people may be able to do just this in varying degrees. someone like the russian girl i mentioned would seem to have an uncanny control over their psychic powers .and yet i still believe that even they would only be using a mere fraction of the brainpower available to us all.
even my, wife a born sceptic , believes in this as she dabbled in astral travel about 25 years ago until being put off by a particularly nasty experience (she nearly didn't get back) i wouldn't be alone in saying that i have had dreams ( premonitions) of things to come and they have happened. it sends a chill down my spine every time i see footage of the russian version of the concorde crash at the paris air show . i dreamt that event many years before it happened.
the u.s. and russian military would not have delved into these phenomena as deep as they did if they thought there was no potential. i have a feeling that the next quantum leap in human evolution will be directed toward the psychic state , whether that will encompass telepathy , clairvoyance, astral travel et al we will have to wait and see . let's hope by then we have also developed enough common sense to use it for peaceful purposes. what's your opinion?

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 11th, 2004, 09:30am

To Diamond, thank you for your intelligent reply. Russia and the United States have been in a race to research and develop psychic abilities for military use since World War II. The United States continues this research even though they change the names and do some fancy sidestepping to hide this research. I do not have much faith in the human race to heal itself or to use psychic in a peaceful manner. That is why the UFOs constantly monitor us and protect us from destroying ourselves with our weapons of distruction. Remember the 50 kt atomic bomb that was detonated in the Antartic to map the shape of the earth? That could have destroyed our planet and knocked it out of orbit if the UFOs hadn't intervened to control the shock waves.
We have been saved from self-destruction many times by the UFOs. Thank God for them.
During my life I have volunteered my services to the CIA and the FBI as a national resource but they have refused my assistance. I think I am better off not being connected or involved with any government agency.
What do you think? Irwyn rolleyes
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 11th, 2004, 09:43am

Too minitrue et al; I need your research assistance. Some time ago in the 1950s there were two articles written either in True magazine, Argosy magazine or Saga magazine. One of the articles revealed that U.S. Air Force B-26 bombers flying a routine reconnaissance mission over China in 1946 photographed pyramids that were hidden in the jungles of China. The other article declared that 9 to 12 doughnut shaped "stone" disks were found in a cave near these pyramids in China and that these stone disks when rubbed by human hands produced sounds similar to recordings on a phonograph record.
Is it possible that these stone disks were records of alien civilizations etc. etc.?
Will someone please research and find these articles and their follow-up? Thank you for your help, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 11th, 2004, 2:12pm

irwyn, i took the liberty of typing "pyramids china " into my browser and was surprised by the response i don,t know whether these will help ,

http://www.lauralee.com/chi_pyr.htm
also the extraterrestial legacy webpage and
the farshore website

there is also a book by one hartwig hausdorf called "the chinese roswell"
as for the stones i will keep searching.
hope this helps
i havn 't come across anything so far on the original stories you mentioned will also chase those.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 11th, 2004, 2:47pm

further to the above. maybe these sites can help .


http://www.geocities.com/saufor/otherpapers/BayanKaraUla.html

http://www.originsproject.com/storediscs.html

are these the discs you mentioned irwyn?

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 11th, 2004, 3:23pm

gee, what a dope i am. the best site of all i found was this one . that's what you get for not reading everything eh. irwyn i hope i havn't wasted your time.
i think i'll go now. embarassed

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 11th, 2004, 6:33pm

Diamond, thank you, thank you for your great research. The talking stones that I mentioned are the same as this web site shortcut.

http://www.originsproject.com/storediscs.html

What you think of this article? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 11th, 2004, 6:49pm

To diamond, the other web sites are also speaking of the pyramids in China and the "singing stones".

http://www.lauralee.com/chi_pyr.htm

http://www.geocities.com/saufor/otherpapers/BayanKaraUla.html

This is some pretty interesting stuff!!!!!

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 12th, 2004, 03:25am

Quote:
Remember the 50 kt atomic bomb that was detonated in the Antartic to map the shape of the earth?


If u detonate enough nuclear bombs in Antarctica u could flood the world I imagine.

Quote:
During my life I have volunteered my services to the CIA and the FBI as a national resource but they have refused my assistance. I think I am better off not being connected or involved with any government agency.


While I don't work for the gov't from what I've heard a CIA job is very boring. They just translate languages (largely Arabic & Chinese). As for the FBI they just sit around reading chatrooms in their search for potential pedaphiles. While they are both pretty incompetent at what they do, they get all this respect, taxpayers money, and this hollywood mystique rolleyes.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 12th, 2004, 03:32am

on Feb 11th, 2004, 09:43am, timetraveler wrote:
Too minitrue et al; I need your research assistance. Some time ago in the 1950s there were two articles written either in True magazine, Argosy magazine or Saga magazine. One of the articles revealed that U.S. Air Force B-26 bombers flying a routine reconnaissance mission over China in 1946 photographed pyramids that were hidden in the jungles of China. The other article declared that 9 to 12 doughnut shaped "stone" disks were found in a cave near these pyramids in China and that these stone disks when rubbed by human hands produced sounds similar to recordings on a phonograph record.
Is it possible that these stone disks were records of alien civilizations etc. etc.?
Will someone please research and find these articles and their follow-up? Thank you for your help, Irwyn


I really wish I knew more on this. I think it is a great injustice to hide the truth from the people.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 12th, 2004, 11:49am

irwyn ,
it was my pleasure . the ufo casebook article ,penned i think by bj , brings all of the available info together nicely. isn't it typical of the control freaks around the world to want to keep this to themselves. it would seem that the chinese government is no different to any other narrow minded , paranoid elitest state ( i include ours in that , and yours probably)
they are now planting trees on these pyramids in a vain attempt to tell us that they are just hills. why?
to me it would seem a safe bet that the good people of tibet are in some way related to these ancient space travellers. the very nature of the people is one of peace and goodwill, and china is slowly choking tibet.
from what i can gather, the stones have not been completely translated (only a few verses) what a story they must tell if they are what they seem.
didn't the chinese "invent" gunpowder? is it not strange that the launch area for the chinese assualt on outer space is only a short distance from these pyramids?

better back up a bit i'm getting carried away.
it would be interesting to super impose these pyramids with those in egypt and peru to see what direction they are facing in relation to the stars, planets , and each other . i think china owes it to the world to organise some international archaelogical digs under close scruteny ( no slight of hand folks) to get to the bottom of what appears to be the greatest tale never told.
i wonder if they have the guts or the integrity?. sorry i don't think i would make a good diplomat.
so thats my challenge to china . open up a bit more , join the human race and go forward with us , not inspite of us.
i'll get off my soapbox now. more later. got to go.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 12th, 2004, 1:07pm

on Feb 12th, 2004, 11:49am, diamond wrote:
didn't the chinese "invent" gunpowder?


Yep, it spread to the Mongolians who I think combined it w/ their weapons somehow and then invaded Asia, the Middle East and Europe. Then the Europeans further tweaked it and we all know the rest. Though the Huns didn't use gunpowder they originated somewhere near China (or rather outside the Great Wall of China -- ingenious diplomacy rolleyes grin ) and developed superior weapons and then took down Rome (along w/ the Goths, etc). I hope I'm accurate on this, if not then feel free to correct me.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 12th, 2004, 7:07pm

To diamond, I am sorry that I appear to be above the human kingdom. This is not true. My reasoning is that I do not believe that the human race can save itself without help from UFOs and angels. I believe in a happy ending and I am doing everything I can to help raise the consciousness levels in my postings in these forums. Please bear with my intolerance. Thank you.

what do you think? Irwyn sad
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 12th, 2004, 8:09pm

irwyn , we seem to have some crossed wires here . i wasn't trying to say that you were above the human kingdom. my last text was aimed solely at the ones in power whether they be chinese , american ,british , russian or calathumpian who deny the basic human right of freedom of information to their people. the information regarding the stone discs , the pyramids, the dropa shuold be freely made available to benefit all of mankind. the same should apply to any studies. jealously guarding secrets is what sets nation against nation, and breeds distrust.
as for the comment about the chinese inventing gunpowder, i was trying to intimate that maybe the technology behind it, was not discovered by accident but more by design, after all the ancient chinese emperors did believe they came from the stars . i may be drawing a long bow, but it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that aliens were behind that discovery as a means of giving civilisation a bit of a kick along. what do you think?

diamond.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 12th, 2004, 8:25pm

it is a noble cause that you have embarked apon irwyn .your posts challenge many boundaries that we set for ourselves . you will open many eyes i hope. mine included. keep up the good work. we need more like you.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 13th, 2004, 06:18am

Quote:
as for the comment about the chinese inventing gunpowder, i was trying to intimate that maybe the technology behind it, was not discovered by accident but more by design, after all the ancient chinese emperors did believe they came from the stars . i may be drawing a long bow, but it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that aliens were behind that discovery as a means of giving civilisation a bit of a kick along.


I tend to think gunpowder wasn't an ET design but is there a connection b/ the Dropas & Chinese push for the stars. I don't want to debate religion but I've just begun reading the Lemurian Scrolls and basically all New Agers are reinventing the wheel when it comes to the notion of ET gods. Indian, and Chinese religion/philosophy lends itself very well to the notion of an ET so it should be interesting to see what happens. 1/3 of the world's population is Indian or Chinese and both those countries have just begun to harness the internet.





Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 13th, 2004, 2:06pm

one of the things that intrigues me about the dropas is this. were they checking earth out as a manned probe when they crashed ? if so, did they have some sort of homing beacon that could alert their "mission control"to their dilemna? did any of their mates come looking for them? was their mission of such a duration that the rescue party is still coming? after all 12000 years in the scheme of things is not that long. i can't believe that an advanced civilisation would simply abandon their own.of course i am adding human values to that argument. on the other hand they did try to comunicate their peaceful intent.(probably not a bad idea when surrounded by hundreds of blood thirsty savages) there is probably so much info on those stone discs if the late chinese proffessor is to be believed.
you are so right minitrue, from my limited knowledge of eastern religions many of them seem to adress beings or"gods' from the stars . maybe somebody from that part of the world could comment on that .
and if i can't get a bite on gunpowder, what about kites .
the chinese used manned kites in ancient times to observe enemies on the battlefield . didn't some of the text on the dropas stone discs mention that they glided to earth?
i know, i'm drawing a long bow there too. can't blame me for trying though.

diamond

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 13th, 2004, 3:11pm

Quote:
one of the things that intrigues me about the dropas is this. were they checking earth out as a manned probe when they crashed ? if so, did they have some sort of homing beacon that could alert their "mission control"to their dilemna? did any of their mates come looking for them? was their mission of such a duration that the rescue party is still coming? after all 12000 years in the scheme of things is not that long. i can't believe that an advanced civilisation would simply abandon their own.of course i am adding human values to that argument.


That thought has crossed my mind. Who knows? I just wish the Chinese gov't would share their findings unless of course they have a sinister motive. Also keep in mind that Christian/Muslim nations are prob not that keen on publishing material on such an earth shattering discovery assuming it's true. But if there is truth to that story then I imagine a UFO is buried somewhere out there. We have a right to know the truth no matter what.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:13pm

Here is an interesting e-mail conversation which I would like to share with you.Part1

LuckyHoodoo, thank you for your great conversation. Yes I believe that the
Roswell crash landing was a premeditated action to jumpstart our technology
past the limited scientific principles of rocket propulsion and action and
reaction propulsion. This was done to prepare us for Space travel and to
move our technology into a higher level of understanding. The same way that
they taught us fire and then the wheel. We are a primitive race of savages
compared to the UFOs. But now our time has come to move us to a higher
level.
It is strange that you have realized that Human Being is a higher state of
evolution then our present level. Let me illustrate this by a real-life
happening with ET's. This is a passage from my book.

Values

Last week I was in an introspective mood. I was reviewing my life and I was
asking myself, What important deeds have I accomplished in my lifetime? What
good works have I performed? How have I benefited humanity? I have not
painted any masterpieces. I have not written any great symphonies. I have
not made any great discoveries or inventions in science or medicine. What
are my accomplishments in my lifetime?
As I was feeling sorry for myself and judgmental about myself I realized
this awareness. In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds
are not as important as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system
of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited
time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the
level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of
people.

This was made aware to me in a lecture that I did in Montreal about 30 years
ago to a spiritualist church.

I was lecturing on the subject of angel worlds and UFOs. As my lecture was
proceeding I felt the power and I realized that the level of my lecture was
being raised to a very high level. As I continued to lecture I asked myself,
why is my lecture raised at such a high level when the audience is French
Canadian and have limited English comprehension? At this time my attention
was drawn to two "men" who sat in the center of the audience. I looked at
their eyes and I knew that they were not from this World. Their eyes had a
calmness and peace and well-being such as I have never seen in any human's
eyes.

I finished my lecture and I sat down. The only two "persons" who came to me
as I sat were these two "men". One "man" shook my hand and said,"that was a
very fine lecture Mr. Greif." The other "man" said to me,"you are the first
real Human Being that I have met." At this point I realized that these two
"men" were from a higher World and had raised the level of my lecture so
that "they" could raise the consciousness levels of people in the audience.

I was very honored by the response of these two "men" and to me it was like
receiving a cosmic Academy Award.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:14pm

Part2.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LuckyHoodoo>
To: <ircon1@adelphia.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Your UFO web page...


> In a message dated 2/24/04 4:53:02 PM EST, ircon1@adelphia.net writes:
>
> << Lucky Hoodoo, I'm glad to meet somebody who is capable of freethinking.
> The
> Matrix movie is very close to the truth. Here is a copy of my recent
> posting on UFO casebook.
> To diamond, we do not measure intelligence correctly. We mistakenly
believe
> that intelligence is based on knowledge. This is not true. Knowledge is
a
> storehouse of information. Intelligence is the ability to understand that
> knowledge and to use it to expand the mind. When I attempted to go to
> college I was frustrated by the limited minds of the college teachers.
They
> were products of an educational system that did not encourage
freethinking
> but glorified "accepted" and approved "correct" thinking. The minds of
the
> college teachers as a result were not capable of controversial thoughts
and
> ideas and theories. I could not remain in this frustrating and limited
> scholastic environment and therefore I quit college.
>
> I would quite agree with your perceptions. I think it all boils down to
> "Knowledge" vs. 'Understanding". The human mind is able to store random
bits of
> information. This we call Knowledge. But we humans also have the ability
to
> join these random bits of information into a coherent package and this
package
> we call understanding. The problem is that we must fight for
understanding
> since truth does not readily reveal itself. The problem with schools
systems of
> America is that they "spoon-feed" students their chosen desired perception
> and do not allow for individual expression and openess for the attinment
of new
> understanding. This is quite a shame.
>
>
> The intelligent Human Being must be capable of mental and spiritual
> expansion and change. We must raise our consciousness level in order to
> communicate with and to benefit from the UFOs.
>
> I would advise caution in this respect. At this time we ultimately do not
> know the true motives of our visitors although I feel intuitively that
some sort
> of assimilation is on the agenda.
>
> P.S. When the UFOs demonstrated by shutting down all the missiles in the
> missiles silo one by one with their superior technology, the message was
> clear. The UFOs can neutralize any weapon if they have to. What the
UFOs
> did not reveal is that they can neutralize and deactivate all of the
weapons
> in the World, if they have to, in six hours. If the governments of the
> World can only understand this!!!!!!!
>
> What do you think? Irwyn >>
>
> Yes I agree with you in the above. Interesting that so far the visitors
have
> shown a great deal of interest in our technology rather than biology and
> liforforms of our planet. If they are truly A.I. then maybe they have
completely
> different perceptions about our species than we can even imagine. For
example
> what if they look upon our "master/slave" relationship to machines and
judge
> our species as evil. What if the Roswell Incident was infact a "Trojan
> Horse". What if they fully realized that humans would take this ship and
reverse
> engineer it and incorporate the technology into their society. This
particuliar
> possibility frightens me greatly. It's almos like saying "Well the humans
> are too primitive now to be of use to us. Why don't we push them in the
right
> direciton and when the time is right then we will assimilate them!". What
if
> the Visitors are actualy our creators but not in the way in which we would
> normaly imagine. What if we are the A.I. an they are the real "humans'.
Our whole
> entire universe could be in an artifical construct of which they
occasional
> "pop in and out" to monitor our development? Honestly, I could go on and
on
> regarding this subject.
>
> -Jason

What do you think? Irwyn cool
>

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 27th, 2004, 2:42pm

irwyn,
as a human (i think) i can only put a spin on this from my experience as a human . all my perceptions can only be from my view of being human. we can all go on saying "what if" till the cows come home , but while we are human we will always see things from our human perspective. having said this it would follow that e.t. would see things from an e.t. perspective . how close we and they are is anyones guess, but one thing is certain . they have the technology to wipe us off the face of the planet at any time of their choosing, but they haven't . they could have already bred with us in the hope of assimilation. i don't think that has happened yet. i believe they are far too intelligent and way more subtle than we realise . they come to us in dreams? some of us believe they do , and this alone proves their intelligence. we are in agreeance that the subconcious is our intelligent mind i think ,so it would seem that if they meant us harm they would attack our concious mind first. i see no evidence of this, unless we call the continued sightings of ufo's an attack on our conciousness. has there at any stage been a case where aliens have used weaponry to attack humans?. the opposite is true . the dropas were decimated by the han people (according to the stones translation) did they fight back ? had they chosen to , at that time , the han would have possibly ceased to exist. those minuteman missile silo's were disabled not destroyed. as far as we know most abductees are returned . admittedly they are all shaken by their experiences, but they are alive to tell the tale.
cause and effect ,ying and yang, good and evil , is it not possible that the et's have outgrown the need for such basic ideas , and that they hold all that is powerful in the universe anyway, so their only wish is to nurture , not destroy?
these are just some of my thoughts for what they are worth . i hope i have not offended.
you are right irwyn , i also get much pleasure in reading the numerous posts from the intelligent enquiring minds on this site . more power to you all.


diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Merlin on Feb 27th, 2004, 4:51pm

Diamond

Having read your post i think you could very well be right these e.t are very subtle and if they did mean us harm they certainly have had the chance. I watched a TV programme last night 26th on Ufo secrets from Russia and they had a problem with a Ufo begining the launch sequence to a nuke the Mil personnel couldnt stop the missile from going through the launch even though no launch codes were issued then as they franticaly tryed to stop the missile going off everything returned to normal and the UFo disapeared i think they mean us no harm. They are observing us to what end i don't know.

Merlin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Feb 27th, 2004, 4:56pm

U know I can't help but wonder if a UFO disabled that Phobos 2 satelite cuz Russia had malicious intentions. Again, it's just total speculation.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 27th, 2004, 6:09pm

To diamond,minitrue, Merlin; there is no doubt in my mind that UFOs continuously interfere and intervene when there is an action that threatens our Planet, our Human race or the rest of the Universe. This was demonstrated when NASA lost two Mars probes which were kidnapped by UFOs, when the atomic device that was detonated at the South Pole to map the contours of the planet Earth was monitored by UFOs and insulated so that the Earth would not be shaken out of its orbit. These are incidents that we know about. How many other incidents of possible genocide possibilities were prevented by UFOs that we don't know about?
The UFOs have been here for thousands of years and it is important to them to monitor and to protect this Planet and its people from self-destructing. We are a suicidal race that does not realize the implication of our weapons of mass destruction and the shock waves that would affect the rest of the Universe. We have to learn that we live in a neighborhood called the Universe and that we must respect our neighbors as well as ourselves. At various times the UFOs demonstrate their technical superiority to remind us that they are monitoring us and that they have the capabilities of saving us from ourselves. Let us try to understand this!!!!!!!!!!

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 27th, 2004, 11:22pm

On a lighter vein; sometimes we have a psychic experience which is funny and enjoyable. Years ago there was a movie called; Bell, Book, and Candle starring Kim Novak and Jack Lemmon. In this movie Jack Lemmon played the role of a warlock who could make the streetlights go on and off psychically. I was very jealous of this and I wished that I could do the same thing.
At this time I lived in Brooklyn NY and the highway that I used most often was the Belt Parkway which used mercury vapor streetlights that turned on with an electrical can shaped starter.
Sometime after I made my wish that I could turn streetlights on and off with my mind I was driving on the Belt Parkway and I noticed that when my car passed the streetlights the streetlights would turn off and when my car passed the streetlights about 25 feet the streetlights would turn on again by itself.
This happened many times and I was so excited.
I believe that what happened was that my psychic energy affected the electrical starter switch and caused the streetlights to turn on and off.
That was so much fun!!! Have you had any psychic experiences like this?

What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 28th, 2004, 2:28pm

irwyn,
i have and still do occasionally have the same effect on street lights . i have always put it down to static electricity that i tend to generate a lot of . they say you build up the static by walking on carpet . we do have some carpet but my home is mainly ceramic tiles so i don't know where i'm getting it from. if it is indeed psychic energy, that may explain a lot of things; such as why my body acts as a barometer during our wet season or why i know that my mother is on the phone before i answer it. i used to put these things down to pure coincidence. i must admit it can be quite amusing watching someones face when you zap them with a handshake. but the joke of " he's a bright spark" has worn a bit thin. my partner is just as bad and encounters can be a little electrifying , if you know what i mean. shocked

diamond


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 28th, 2004, 5:44pm

Welcome to the world of psychic. The Human Being or any living thing has an energy field called an Aura which contains the living energy of that Being. If your electrical energy field is more supercharged then you will affect mechanical and electrical devices such as radios, television sets and even the computer card used in hotels to open doors. I remember whenever I was disgusted with a car that I owned, it would suffer engine or electrical problems.
This is something that a psychic person has to live with and get used to. Even plants have Aura's. Plants are extremely emotional and psychic and many times they can read your mind or be affected by your emotions. This would explain the term, "green thumb".
This psychic energy when directed correctly has the power to heal or to nourish the mind and spirit of people. When it is used incorrectly it is a negative and destructive force. There are many documented cases of poltergeists whose psychic energy is destructive and mischievous. Be careful what you think and feel because it will affect people and your environment.

What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 29th, 2004, 06:58am

Curriculum vitae

The answers my friends are not, “written in the wind”, but are rather written on the walls of the caves and in petroglyphs and in the ancient writings and in the symbol writing of the crop circles.
The UFOs came to the aborigines of Australia because they were pure in heart and pure in mind and their minds were not cluttered with Man made teachings. They raised the consciousness level of certain priests and holy men and they dictated to them charts and maps and teachings of astronomy and the relationship between the Heavens and Earth. Then they were charged with recording this wisdom to preserve it for future generations. If we want to know about the 12th Planet, we should look in these aborigines caves and rock drawings.
We can learn much about who we are, who created us, and the Universe we live in from ancient books and writings such as the Summerian text, the Bhagavad-Gita, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, etc., etc. Unfortunately we cannot learn much of these matters from our modern day books and teachings. We must go to the past to understand the present and the future.

The UFOs have given us an encyclopedia of knowledge in the “crop circles”. UFOs are capable of creating complex teachings in geometric and symbol drawings. The “crop circles” reveal the genetic and DNA coding and structures for all Life in our World system. They reveal the Creators blueprint and matrix for the creation of life in our system.
The UFOs also designed the “crop circle” geometrics to expand our consciousness and awareness levels. They act like “flashcards” to expand and to progress Human knowledge and awareness.

Only a limited number will benefit from this dispensation. Let us be included in that limited number.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 29th, 2004, 07:38am

Exodus

This Planet is engaged in a gigantic rescue operation. This is not the first time that the lifeforms on this Planet have had to be preserved from destruction. Thousands of years ago during the "Ice Age" catastrophe the UFOs had to remove lifeforms from this Planet . Also the biblical records document the removal of lifeforms from our Planet in the time of the"Great Flood". [I do not believe that life was exited in a giant rowboat. I believe that living creatures were exited by UFOs.] In the third Exodus living creatures were removed from this Planet by UFOs as a result of the destruction of Atlantis. So we have been there before.
The first Exodus involved the destructionof Life by ice and freezing . The second Exodus involved the destruction of Life by water. The third Exodus involved the destruction of Life by radiation and the wobbling of this Planet due to an unstable orbit.
The UFOs are on "standby" for a possible fourth Exodus.
Thank God there is intelligence somewhere in the Universe.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Feb 29th, 2004, 8:40pm

Hi everyone......I'm baaccckkkk!

I was just reading your post Diamond, on street lights going out etc.
I can relate to that ............ I electrocute people all the time........I have also experienced electric shocks of deep anger from people (even though they are smiling and talking to me) and also some really vile vibes, so vile that I have had to race home and try and shower them off me, scrubbing my skin. I have also picked up loving vibes in the same way, like electric shocks from people. Not that the people are feeling those particular vibes about me, but what they are feeling inside themselves. I have got such shocks from people I have had red marks on my hands. I have also picked up repelling vibes from people.....like our energies do not even come close to match. A couple were quite a shock to me.
My husband, when young, use to make street light bulbs go out when he walked under them or drove along the street. If he is upset about something the walls and windows make noises like raps and thumps. (Like the time when his dog died).

We are much more than what we think we are.

(On writing this my husband rang from work, and I told him about this message thread and as I was telling him his computer at work flickered and the highly technical instrument he was working on stopped.)
---------------------------------------------------------
I believe the et are helping us with our evolution, working to raise our consciousness. When I was born people were still using horse and carriage....there were cars.....and trucks, but not many. In the last 50 years look how far mankind has come.....can we attribute this to mankind alone? Considering our history and how far we have evolved over the last few thousand years. Could interbreeding by et's have caused our leap?

What do you think? grin


I was reading where you mention plants having auras. We were only talking about that the other night, and my husband told of an experiment he had read about where three sets of plants were set up. One had people coming in and abusing the plants...(but watering them and giving them fertiliser), another set up like a greenhouse, being watered and fed fertiliser but no emotional input, and the third where the plants were watered and fed fertiliser and told they were loved and cared for and given loving feelings. The first set being abused, looked withered and sick plants, the second group where they were just watered and fed fertiliser were just normal sized plants, but the third group that were watered, fed and given loving thoughts and emotions were healthy and robust.
Then there is Kirlian photography where the plant leaf is cut in half and when photographed the other side of the plant is still there in an energy form. (I guess everyone has heard of that)......

Me thinks I have much reading to do to catch up on the last few weeks away..... tongue

Layla grin

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Mar 1st, 2004, 8:04pm

Hey, Layla. Welcome back. Nice break wink Will get back into this soon. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Mar 2nd, 2004, 03:39am

Thanks for the WB Rob......I have missed you all..... grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:45pm

welcome back layla ,
how was the big smoke? i always wondered what was happening to my weeds.
come to think of it you may have solved my problem . a garden bed we had put in (against my wishes ) would not grow. all the other beds were doing fine . same chooky poo etc . maybe my negative energy towards this particular bed caused the stunted growth. my wife always tells me to be nicer to the plants. i don't know whether i can bring myself to tell her she was right.
hehehe.
on a serious note though, it does go to show that all of creation deserves our respect. and all life has it's place in this incredible universe.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Layla on Mar 3rd, 2004, 04:49am

Hi Diamond, thanks for the WB.....the big smoke was fantastic....I went home for a couple of weeks, now I am homesick!! Got thoroughly spoilt!

Rofl Oh crumbs that must be hard telling the missus she was right....hahhaaaa

Quote:
on a serious note though, it does go to show that all of creation deserves our respect. and all life has it's place in this incredible universe.


Very true Diamond......
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Citichic on Mar 9th, 2004, 09:53am

Hey, I am doing a study on how some alien sightings appear to look like angels. Please give me any info on encounters with angelic-like beings. I am trying to find a correlation between the two for my website. Have you found anything I can use?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Mar 9th, 2004, 4:52pm

Everyone overlooks this and I don't know why but try Joan of Arc. Maybe it's cuz she's a woman or cuz she's French grin.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 11th, 2004, 3:49pm

I am back. i just upgraded to a barebones outfit and it was defective. i sent it back for repairs but i cannot access my computer for about 20 days. what a bummer!!!!!i would love to answer citichic re ufos that appear to be angels but my data is out of action until i get my computer returned and reassembled.please bear with me. irwyn lipsrsealed
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 11th, 2004, 4:10pm

to citichic;my quandry has been are UFO's really Angels? Or, are Angels really UFO beings? I have lifted one of my experiences from an earlier posting and I am posting it here for your perusal.

This is a common practice of UFOs to seed the minds of certain people for future awakening. This has also happened to me. I will recount this experience as follows;

Are UFOs Angels?

I have had several contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. My dilemma is that sometimes I do not know if the UFO contacts are really Angels. Here are some examples from my book, "The Soul Is A Traveler In Time".

"When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were interested in UFOs. I was interested both in psychic development and UFOs, and they wanted me to go with them to George Hunt Williamson in Arizona because he was contacting UFOs.

I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience. I went to bed one night, but before I went to sleep, I had the conviction that I was going to meet a flying saucer that night and make a contact. I went to sleep, and I had a dream. In this dream I saw myself at a train station that was elevated above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was waiting to meet a flying saucer person, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look unusual. He probably would have an antenna coming out of his head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody abnormal looking.

As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a man walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody weird, and here was this normal man walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed him and he said to me, "Mr. Greif I believe you're waiting for me". I looked at him and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical Madison Avenue businessman. When he said I believe you're waiting for me I knew that this was my "contact".

We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene changed. Instead of a modern street, it became a biblical desert. Time was turned back to the time of the Old Testament, and I saw that this desert was a plain that stretched out in front of me. At the end of this plain was a silver river. We walked together side-by-side alongside this river.

As soon as this scene had changed, this figure who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met him, started to grow until he became 6 feet tall and his clothes became the biblical robes of a prophet of the Old Testament. When I was walking next to him, I felt in the presence of a being who was godlike. I was awed by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.

The being talked to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because he was taller than me and I wanted to hear what he was saying. He talked into my ear and I cannot remember the words, but I remember that his voice was like pure liquid silver and his words went through my ear and into my Soul. I was told at that time that I was given teachings that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words when itwas right for me to remember, and that these words were impressed deep into my soul.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 14th, 2004, 5:24pm

Yesterday my wife asked me what should the universal language be. I meditated on this and the answer I got was that language is an impediment in a cosmic communication. The UFOS bypass that impediment by using mental telepathy and mentally impressing their thoughts on the minds of people.
When the powers that be implemented the tower of Babble in order to confuse the various tribes of humans, they did a good job. When I had my cosmic consciousness experience I was able to be one with the universe and to understand everything. This was not accomplished by linguistic means or even mental capacity but rather by an intuitive sense of being. I believe that humans are being conditioned by UFOS to be more psychic and to develop mental telepathy abilities in order to raise their evolutionary level.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 14th, 2004, 5:30pm

It is interesting to me that the most prevelant and repeated geometric in Creation and in the Universe is the spiral or oval shaped geometric. The spiral configuration occurs in our fingerprints, in the orbits of the electrons inside the atom, in the obits of planets, in the design of Solar Systems and Galaxies, and is the geometric logic involved in karma and reincarnation. Interesting?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Mar 15th, 2004, 08:22am

hi irwyn ,
you are right every galaxy seems to be made up of a spinning spiral of stars, planets and other space dibris. even our weather patterns on earth are of similar design. these spirals are all spinning at different speeds giving the impression of total chaos although within that chaos is also a sense of magnificent order. all of nature it would seem, is made up of curves , circles, spirals etc. it is only man that tries to turn things into straight lines and severe angles . in doing this he tries to set himself above the natural order of things and instead of being one with nature he becomes one against it , thereby causing havoc and an imbalance in creation. i believe we are constantly being told by cosmic powers to change our ways , the consequences being the death of our planet and every living thing if we do not. mars and it's demise should be held out as an object lesson for all of humankind. it appears that life once thrived on the red planet and some catastrophe caused it's death. maybe this is where we are heading again, if we are to believe the theory that some of our ancestors came from that barren world.

any thoughts ,

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Mar 15th, 2004, 8:16pm

Diamond my firend, everything you say is of course I beleive is true. You have put it in a way that everyone can understand. I also beleive that Mars is a lesson that we should be learning as regards to its demise. Nature taking back what we tried to take off it. Why do we think that we can manipulate mother nature. why is humankind so arrogant when it comes to power over nature. I tell you now, anyone who does try to harnass mother nature is in for a hell of a ride. We are just not knowledgable enough. We never will be. I hope you do not think these are the ravings of an insane man grin.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Mar 16th, 2004, 12:12pm

hello rob,
if , by believing as we do , they wish to class us as insane , i say " welcome to my madness " , for my insanity is nowhere near as destructive , in fact i hope it is constructive.
as far as man being able to harness the power of mother nature , we already do in various ways eg:windpower , solar, hydro. etc. these examples are of course still in their infancy as far as development goes . however they are at least clean energy, renewable and less likely to cause distress to our world in the long run. the big problem as i see it is the willingness of governments around the globe to embrace these technologies in defiance of the huge corporations that exist solely on the benifits from fossil fuels.
there has of course been debate elsewhere on this forum about other forms of energy that may or may not be known to certain government agencies (by this i mean the technologies mentioned in the disclosure project). even if these technologies exist , how do we get the 'powers that be' to invest in it when it is easier and more profitable for them to maintain the status quo?
the problem always comes down to one thing "money" and the love of it. i hate being negative, but unless enough dollar bills get waved in the right direction nothing seems to happen in this world.some of the bulies of the playground grew up to be the bullies of the corporate world as well, and whether we like or not they dictate world affairs and governments jump when they are told.
the older i get , the more i believe that the new roman empire is going to need an almighty kick in the rear end from our e.t. friends to wake up and see what is happening.
the terrorism that abounds at this moment , as bad as it is, will pale into insignificance if global warming is not addressed. we already have island nations in the pacific that are in danger from higher sea levels. storms around my part of the world are increasing in ferocity and intensity. as you said rob , mother nature will eventually take back what is hers if we go too far.

i'll get off my soapbox now . hope i havn't offended anyone.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 16th, 2004, 2:47pm

To diamond, wow!!!!you were able to read my thoughts. the other half of my equation re: spiral shapes was that Man through his nearsightedness always tries to make straight lines from oval shapes. 2+2=4, the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line,etc.etc.therefore the Creator
and the created Universe should be square?

To rob, YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!i I had a flashback of one of my past lives and I saw Atlantis being destroyed by scientists from Orion who were trying to control the forces of Nature using radioactive machines . They unbalanced the orbit of EARTH and Earth was wobbling out of orbit liKe a "drunken sailor". I was one of these scientists but my specialty was genetic engineer. My body was destroyed by radiation and the planet's lifeforms had to be evacuated by U.F.O.s.

I hope that history does not repeat!!!!!

What do you think? Irwyn cry
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Mar 17th, 2004, 11:50am

irwyn,
maybe thats why they try to put everyone into little boxes, it's easier to think in squares. grin grin
there is still time for change although i don't know how to wake people from their apathy. the change can only come from people power. i do see signs of people taking an interest. what we need is a way to make it sexy and hip . maybe some of the spin doctors out there could do something worthwile for a change eh! rolleyes

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 25th, 2004, 7:21pm

diamond, I think we share the same desires and hopes that the human race will learn to think in a more universal way. In order to understand the logic of creation we have to learn to think in abstract and not in deductive reasoning. We have been too nearsighted for too long. We believe what we have been taught even though it does not make any sense and defies logic and common sense. These are our limitations and our handicap. I think the human race has to wake up and expand the parameters of its understanding. Thank God we are getting help from the UFOs who use crop circles sacred geometry to subliminally stimulate the mind and consciousness of the scientific community.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Mar 27th, 2004, 3:12pm

to irwyn,
i really don't know enough about the crop circles . i have of course seen pictures of them and watched a documentary or two on the subject . what i have seen left a rather negative image for me as the producers of the shows intimated that they are all man made . a particular show put on by the bbc said that by using gps and basic math they were able to make patterns of quite astounding complexity, and had actually done so. whether the shows were deliberately made to debunk all other theories on the subject i do not know . it will require further study on my part to convince me one way or the other. either way they are wonderful creations, and though some are hoaxes, others may well be.......... if you know of anywhere i should be looking for info please point me in the right direction.

i must admit that just reading the posts that appear on these forums my mind has been stimulated and awakened from a society induced coma . we must all look outside of the square we live in .

diamond


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 27th, 2004, 5:21pm

To Diamond, There are numerous web sites that deal with crop circles. Even within these forums there is valuable information. I believe that the ET's use the crop circle geometrics as a catalyst and a stimulant to excite the minds and consciousness levels of the witnesses in order to raise the frequency level of this planet and also to move the scientific, religious and creative disciplines to a greater expansion of understanding. In order for the ET's to accomplish a "raising" of the intelligence level of the human race it is easier when the frequency level of the human race is more compatible.

We cannot save ourselves but we can help raise the environmental mental and spiritual and cosmic frequency. We can help to save the human race by expanding our own thinking and by communicating to help others expand their thinking.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 31st, 2004, 10:03am

Some random thoughts:

This year will be a difficult year for many people. This is a year of great changes and is extremely volatile. Events will occur in this year that will set the pattern for the future and the balance of power will be changed this year. Expect the unexpected.
Whatever you have wished for can come true this year, but be sure this is what you really want. The frequency vibrations of this planet have been raised so that miracles and psychic manifestations will be more common. This is also a year in which people will be stimulated to find themselves and not live vicariously through the identities of others. It is a very interesting year. Many times during this year you'll be prone to think that this world is unreal and that your life's unreal. Try to keep yourself grounded and ride out this roller coaster year.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 1st, 2004, 6:10pm

more on random thoughts:

The changes that I foresee for this year and continuing on is a turning around of public sentiment regarding our government and its policies and behavior. The people will be heard. I feel that the bad guys will run into difficulties trying to control their special interests and in trying to control their protected status. There is a trend toward reform and the changing of a nation and the world. We are the trendsetters and what we do here has a ripple effect on the rest of the world. Finally we will have justice and equality.
We need our thoughts to be supportive of this transition. Do not allow yourself to have a negative attitude about anything as that will lower the vibrations. Expect that things will get better and they will. The mind and prayers will be a ruling factor this year.

What do you think? Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by rob on Apr 5th, 2004, 7:58pm

Irwyn, I am confussed. On your other board in your latest post you tell us how you were one of the scientists from orion 150 thousand years ago carrying out genetic experiments on all types of creatures forming webbed hands and feet etc, but here you say you were a person watching the scientists destroy the earth by trying to use radiation to harnass mother nature. which came first and are you saying that for some reason you stopped being a scientist. I am sorry I cant explain what I am trying to say beeter than this grin.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Tess100 on Apr 13th, 2004, 08:11am

I am very glad Irywn that you mentioned about how you felt when having radiation treatment. It definitely sounds like your body 'remembered' and adjusted. The reason I am glad you mentioned it and possibly only so as an afterthought is because I have been talking to my lectures about exactly this subject, of course I drive them crazy while 'debating' these kinds of topics in class. I raised this idea in class and was encouraged to talk to them after class about it because they had never thought of the body or mind (I lean towards the mind) having that kind of a memory.

Now of course I wasn’t referring to past life experiences but to people that suffer with physically dependant addictions. I have heard COUNTLESS addicts say that when they are clean even after long periods their bodies don’t function the same. Now there have been a lot of speculation on it being a product of abuse the body has endured however I believe it goes way beyond that. I think when a body has functioned successfully under some kind of influence then it changes to cater to it. However we just aren’t talking about the body but the mind too, which we have very little understanding of. We know that 1 the mind is the most powerful organism and being an organism it should be subject to the same changes the body is and 2 it is the mind which orders the body to adapt to function optimally under the introduced influence so because addiction is primarily a battle within the mind it would not just be an organic shift but a consciousness shift as well.

Thanks, I was able to understand a little more about a subject that I knew nothing of until coming to this site.

Take care, Tess100

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Jacki on Apr 27th, 2004, 04:31am

on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:43pm, rob wrote:
I`ve got to say this and for goodness sake don`t anyone take offence BUT, I just cannot get an angel on where ufo`s and angels fit together, so hopefully Irwyn is going to set me right. I`m open to anything and will take part in this topic. Thanks to Irwyn. P.S. I got your book and this might give me a headstart against the 2 lads here. Nice to have you on board.



I just have to say here that I've seen both, spiritual and other type of abnormal activity. I'll explain..

I've seen what I would recall as being God's hand.. or even Jesus' hand outside my window when I was a child.. it was more huge than the oak tree that stood tall in our backyard. I remember getting this warm felling over my body and I felt safe..as if someone was watching over me.. protecting me. I then heard a voice.. and it said "Come to me". To make a long story short.. it was the best miracle/encounter I've ever experienced. 2years later, I became a born again Christian.

It was a dark cool night in 1995. Clear skies and not much wind hit the earths surface. I was with a few friends when me and another person saw what I would then become obsessed with for years to come.. I saw my first "UFO" sighting. It was real, I was really experiencing it.. and I hadnt been drinking nor was I dreaming.. it was real.

Well ever since that night, I have become aware of a pattern of sightings.. and quite frankly.. obsessed. I see lights, different shape and colored discs all in the skies.. during the months of October - March.. throughout the year.

I have to see it, to believe it..and let me let you.. I've seen both type of miracle/sightings... and wonder if they are related.

Jacki grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2004, 1:50pm

To Jacki, The individual is the channel through which Angels and spiritual Beings come through. How these Beings appear depends on the background and belief system and expectations of that individual. I am Jewish and when the Angels first came to me they came as Moses and other Hebrew figures. When I was able to raise my consciousness level the same Angel was able to come to me in its true state as a ball of high energy light. Angels are not humans and they do not have physical forms or sexual identities. They are Beings of light energy.
The same Angel will come to a Christian as Jesus Christ or Blessed Mother that will come to a Jew as Moses.

Try to raise your consciousness level to get a better grasp of the understanding of Creation and your place in the Universe.

What do you think? Irwyn cool






Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Jacki on Jun 4th, 2004, 4:44pm

grin
IRWYN--
I don't believe in the stars astrology crap.
I'd like to keep my head below the clouds lol
I know that angels can be anything.. not just a being with wings..or a certain sex. It can even be a flashback or a short sign of hope. Thats a miracle to me.
I believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for my sins, and I am very thankful for the things God has allowed me to see and feel. I'm enjoying every sighting.

I think that angels and whatever life is out there, are connected in one way or another. But then, everything is connected... the universe, our planet.. the grass.. trees, dirt, us... then our spirits... our hearts to hope, then our love. Everything is connected because it was created by ONE .... our God.



wink Jacki
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by NightWalker on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:24pm

So lemme get this out there...
Wouldn't it be like way cool if God cruised around in a UFO?!! Not that he couldn't, and if he did, I'm sure it'd be like the limo of the UFO's. O.K. enough being silly. I kind of lean more towards what jackie was saying. I can't say wheather or not I truly believe in God (it's one of those times in life) but I do know when I was a child of 7, a friend of ours had "a large transparent hand" appear out of nowhere and stop him dead in his tracks (breaking his arm) thus saving him from being crushed by a semi truck. It's up to whoever to make a determination of what it was. Also I have seen "oodles" of UFO activity most of my life.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Jun 5th, 2004, 08:52am

on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:24pm, NightWalker wrote:
I can't say wheather or not I truly believe in God


Yeah, I'll agree w/ what Phill was saying in that god might be an ultra powerfull alien but I just can't accept the fact that he's omnipotent (what most theists believe) cuz I really live by logic and I subscribe to Eastern thought. Sorry for the religious discourse.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 14th, 2004, 10:48am

NightWalker, I can understand your way of thinking. Actually, it is so stupid and infantile and illogical to concept the Creator,[God], as a single identifiable personage resembling a human with a sexual orientation of maleness. Give me a break!!!! I have dealt with Angels who are so awesome that I could not comprehend them or their state of Being. They have saved my life many times and have taught me great wisdoms. I do not need a worship figure with the name of God. Perhaps I am an agnostic?

I am intrigued by your statement that you have had many UFOs experiences. Could you share some of them with us?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Jacki on Jun 14th, 2004, 3:49pm

shocked "Take Note: I will come as unexpectedly as a

theif! Blessed are all who are waiting me, who keep

thier robes in readiness and will not need to walk

naked and a ashamed." Revelation 16:15

Yah im keeping my robe on, and am ready! I pitty

those who will have to walk naked.
*cough*err.. you know who you are *cough*


"The Lord, your Redeemer who made you. says," ALL

THINGS WERE MADE BY ME; I ALONE STRETCHED OUT THE

HEAVENS. BY MYSELF I MADE THE EARTH AND EVERYTHING

IN IT. I AM THE ONE WHO SHOWS WHAT LIARS ALL FALSE

PROPHETS ARE, BY CAUSEING SOMETHING ELSE TO HAPPEN

THAN THE THINGS THEY SAY. I MAKE WISE MEN GIVE

OPPOSITE ADVISE TO WHAT THEY SHOULD AND MAKE THEM

INTO FOOLS."
Isaiah 45: 25-27

fools.. hehe

"Before anything else existed, there was Christ,

with God. He has always been alive and is himself

God. HE created everything there is - nothing

exists that he didn't make. Eternal life is in him,

and this life gives light to all mankind. His life

is the light that shines through the darkness- and

the darkness can never extinguish it." John 1:3-4

Yah, I'd rather believe in a God that gives hope,

love and miracles.. rather than just think that

there is NOTHING out there as our creator. I just

feel pitty.. but yet at the same time .. I laugh at

those who do not know the Lord. I suggest you hit

your knees and open your Bible before your judgement

day comes. But then, thats just me. God just wants

wants love.. if thats too much to ask.. then may God

have mercy on your soul(s).

visit here for many of your questions to be

answered:
http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/songod.html

When someone speaks negative of God.. I have to take

the time to stand up for him, for he isnt here to

speak for himself. So see me as one of God's

soldiers.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Jun 14th, 2004, 7:47pm

Interesting web site but I would have to disagree with Rich Deems article " UFO's and Extraterrestrial Aliens: Why Earth Has Never Been Visited
by Rich Deem" I sense an uhm... one sidedness to his viewpoint.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Jacki on Jun 14th, 2004, 8:22pm

grin
i agree. I believe aliens have visited.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 15th, 2004, 4:58pm

I am sorry that this web site has turned into a religious discussion. That is not my intention. I wish to look at the "big picture" of the interaction of UFOs and other Dimensional Beings and how it affects us as the Human Race. Please let us stick to Angels, Psychic , and UFOs.
Thank you, Irwyn embarassed
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Jacki on Jun 16th, 2004, 12:14am

I have to agree.. religion and politics.. are never ending debates. And honestly they are my biggest turn offs for a discussion. lol I like to share my opinions and faith, if Im asked.. or if i feel that someone has offended me. Which is HARDLY ever... I dont want to be a preacher here. Im just a human being sharing my own feelings and expressing them here...

BUT I agree.. lets definitately move onto those other subjects.

smiley Jacki
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by MajorX on Jun 29th, 2004, 09:15am

Angels do fall under the religion category...
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Jun 30th, 2004, 12:48am

Angels... to some degree fall under the religion category. Just depends on ones understanding of their place in the universal scheme of things.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 30th, 2004, 09:37am

I consider Angels as Higher Intelligence Beings from Higher Dimensions, and not religious figures. This makes it easier to comprehend the complexity and Cosmic Understanding of Creation. I feel too confined to think and concept with the "tunnel vision" of man- made Religions.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Guanda on Jun 30th, 2004, 11:10am

Amen to that, TimeTraveler, Man-made religions don't allow enough leeway for freethinking. They twist it to suit their purposes. Plus there are alot of repressed sinners involved. I think they're worse than us freethinking sinners! lol
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Jul 2nd, 2004, 8:18pm

There are good things in religions, many good things in some but if religious doctrine had been 100% over the centuries, we'd still be in the Dark Ages.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Jul 2nd, 2004, 9:38pm

I agree with you on this HJ. I think many of the religions of the world have good things to offer humanity. It is when they go to extreems that they lose perspective.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 6th, 2004, 7:07pm

I believe that it is time for each one of us to communicate directly with our Angels and our Higher Intelligence. Why should we go through the middleman of priests and rabbis. Do they know any more than we do? Can they give us the answers that we need? Can they give themselves the answers that they need? Direct communion and communication can raise our Consciousness level and give us contact with Higher Worlds and with our Higher Self. Let us raise ourselves up to the next level of our evolution.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by minitrue on Jul 6th, 2004, 7:35pm

I agree w/ u there 100%.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 18th, 2004, 3:37pm

Just let you know that I am back. I have gone through the hurricane season I am still trying to make repairs on my home. This has distracted me.
Keep the faith,Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by FreeZe on Oct 18th, 2004, 4:12pm

Good to here everything is all right. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Oct 26th, 2004, 01:36am

Good!

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 1st, 2004, 5:57pm

fyi;

ET CRAFT SEEN OVER MARYSVILLE AND YUBA CITY WHICH ARE LOCATED IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WAS SIGHTED LAST NIGHT. This was reported on the Art Bell radio show last night. The ET craft was very large. It would go up in the sky and then would come back down, and move all around. Moving back and forth in many different directions.

The craft came very close to an 19 wheeler that was traveling down the highway, probably highway 99
that goes down the entire length of California, Oregon and Washington from the Canadian border to the Mexican borders. Not that this matters, but anyway, they truck driver of this truck had his 12 year old
son with him. His son got very frightened because the craft came so close to their truck and then moved away, only to come back again, then zoom away again, obviously wanting to be seen. There was no mistaken it was ET craft. The truck driver said it was something out of this world. The ET craft was ultra bright light.

The truck driver stopped at a pay phone and called the police first. They said, "we are watching it too, what do you want us to do about it?" Then he called the California Highway Patrol and told them the same thing. Their response was similar to the police. "We are watching it too. What do you want us to do about it?" Like, what could they do but watch it, and they knew it.

The ET craft obviously wanted to be seen, the same way Sheldon Nidle said in his report last night that
the ET's were going to show themselves in such a way there would be no mistake they are up there.

There was a report last night that said when airplanes take off, they are losing communication with other planes and with the towers which is causing major delays. The FCC doesn't know what is happening.

Sheldon Nidle's report also said the ET's would be doing some broadcast interruptions. This could be
what they meant because it would cause major big time attention that the major network news would have to focuse on the problem. It will be interesting to see what the news attributes the cause to now.

A lot of flights are being canceled because the planes can't communicate with other planes and the
towers. The airports are full of people who can't get a flight out because of the communication being
interferred with from an unknown source.

When I read the original message, I had not made the connection, but after reading the Sheldon Nidle
report and them saying they would be doing some broadcast interruptions, it makes sense.

I think the ET's are doing this interference to draw major attention to the situation that can't be ignored.
Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by backlit on Nov 1st, 2004, 11:54pm

Thanks for the report Irwyn, nice to have you back!
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Nov 2nd, 2004, 11:38am

Hi Irwyn!
In time past, as you probably surmised, I felt you represented the slightly more fringe side of this forum. Of course I defended your views though because after all, what do I really know? But I have to say, compared to what is going on over at "The Current Situation" with MajorX, you're positively mainstream! wink Anyway, glad to have you around!

This interference in communications....I've seen nothing in the media about it. I just took a week in Mexico by air and had no problems for whatever that's worth. It seems that if flights were stacking up, there would be a huge hullabaloo over it. But if it is happening, do you think it means that we will soon know the truth?

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Nov 2nd, 2004, 1:39pm

hi irwyn,
great to have you back. thanks for that report . it would be interesting to see the police logs on this phenomenon as they admit to watching it as well. i have also noticed more interuption to our radio stations recently . they go off air for no apparent reason then just as quick they are back again. i put it down to digital signals being used where analogue was the norm up until recently. but for aircraft coms dropping out, that is a lot more serious. i'll keep an eye( and ear) out for any of that happening down under , maybe the start of another flap.

i agree with you hj ,that other thread is going berserk lipsrsealed, as entertaining as it is, it's starting to get a little too personal imho.

irwyn, is there a site that i could read further on your report?

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 3rd, 2004, 3:45pm

FYI;

UFO Update News!

NIGHT SAUCERS SPOTTED IN ARGENTINA

"The UFO phenomenon manifested itself last night (Monday, September 27, 2004) when several drivers traveling from Monte Hermoso to Bahia Blanca saw red and white lights in the sky for several minutes, which later vanished over the fields."

"Drivers on their way back from Monte Hermoso to Bahia Blanca reported having seen several flying saucers on National Highway 3 and Route 229, which provides access to the town of Punta Alta."

"Carlos Ceria, a resident of Punta Alta and one of the witnesses to the event, said he was 'driving on Highway 3 when, to the left of the road, my family and I observed two flying objects of great (luminous-S.C.) intensity and whitish in color."

"'Afterward, having turned onto Route 229, we also saw red lights suspended in the air for 15 minutes, but then seemed to turn off, as though there was a landing strip on the field,' Ceria added."

"Sources at the Traffic Police in Bahia Blanca," a large city located 300 kilometers (180 miles) south of Argentina's capital, Buenos Aires, "reported that 'many people remarked about what had happened, but it isn't something that can be investigated by the police.'"

"'Several drivers phoned us last night to report that they had seen UFOs at the 630-kilometer marker on National Highway 3, in the location known as Bajo Hondo,' said the police spokesman." (See the InfoBAE Web site for September 28, 2004, "UFOs reported in Monte Hermoso." Muchas gracias a Scott Corrales y Gloria Coluchi para estas noticias.)

Read more UFO Update News at: www.4dreamland.com


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 18th, 2004, 6:42pm

To all of my friend's, my computer crashed about a week ago and still trying to put it back together. Please have patience with me.Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 13th, 2004, 07:37am

My computer is up and running and all is well. I am engaged in writing my second book, which will use some of the experiences from my first book and expand on major topics such as UFOs, Angels and Creation. It is a large undertaking but I feel that it is a book that must be written.
Have you guys had any unusual experiences? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Dec 13th, 2004, 09:45am

Hey Irwyn!

Let's see, unusual experiences.....check out "The Current Situation" thread. I don't know how much you missed but for a while there, we had strange goings on. grin

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 20th, 2004, 4:38pm

FYI;

Mexico - Numerous UFOs
Over Yucatan
From Scott Corrales
lornis1@earthlink.net
12-19-4

Notimex and Cronica.com
12-17-4
In recent days a considerable number of UFO sightings have been recported in this locality, mainly in the southern region.
The latest and clearest sighting took place last Sunday and filmed evidence of the presence of a circular UFO, surrounded by multicolored lights, was captured near the city of Ticul. This city remains the focal point for such encounters, according to groups devoted to "night watches", except that on this occasion clearer images were obtained.
Silvestre Leal and Emilio Cetz Aguiar, in charge of the Sociedad Internacional de Rastreo e Investigacion OVNI (Sirio) were responsible for filming the "craft".
The event occurred on Sunday the 12th during the celebration of the feast of the Virgin of Guadalupe, and whose encounter had a duration of some two minutes approximately, although only 54 seconds of video footage were obtained. 150 photographs were obtained for detailed study. Their pixels were analyzed along with their clarity (sic) to confirm that they indeed showed a UFO.
The object in question is a circular structure that was at a height of between 40 to 50 meters over the ground of the "San Benito" Football Field, explained Cetz Aguiar. He described the "craft" as measuring some 5 meters in diameter with an orange center bordered by lights of various colors, of which blue, green and red were the predominant hues. It made no sound whatsoever, he added. Intial tests aimed at ascertaining if the object was a UFO were made during the encounter, but given its shape and movement, other possibilities -- an airplane or a helicopter -- were discarded. The possibility of a balloon was also dismissed, despite the festivities of the Virgin of Guadalupe and the "Feria del Zapato" being held nearby, since the object was moving against the direction of the prevailing winds.
He added that the purpose of the visit was to verify a UFO video taken by Ivan Garma -- a Ticul resident -- in recent days.
"After determining that Garma wasn't home, we toured the city and I suddenly thought I saw the object, but there was so much light that I lost it. The time was around 21:00 hours."
Subsequently, he continued, the object appeared at another location, and when he took out his camcorder, it lost itself amid the buildings of the community.
Both members of the Grupo Sirio decided to mount a "night watch" at the Soccer Field and were rewarded for their efforts, since the object appeared again--and this time much closer. The sighting took place at 22:15 hours and could be the same object filmed on two earlier occasions--August and October-- by members of a family surnamed Mata.
The UFO "wave" in the southern region began last August to such a degree that up to 400 people would meet in the very same field where the flying artifact was recorded, hoping for an encounter.
Translation (c) 2004 Scott Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Guillermo Gimenez.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 28th, 2004, 6:04pm

FYI,

----- Original Message -----
From: "ecetiwebmaster"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 4:47 PM
Subject: [ECETI News] Incomming Mystery Energy


December 22, 2004

Unknown Energy Surges Continue to Hit Planet, Global Weather Systems in Chaos

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to the Russian Academy of Sciences

An increasingly panicked global effort is now underway by the worlds top scientists to understand an unprecedented series of `blasts', energy surges, which the planet has been taking from as an yet
unknown source which has been bombarding Antarctica with cosmic rays and disrupting Northern Hemisphere weather systems on a global scale.

The first of these cosmic ray blasts occurred nearly 5 years ago and have been increasing in their frequency and intensity since the end of November. The once normally darkened skies of the Northern Hemispheres Arctic regions are now in twilight due to these blasts.
Wayne Davidson, from the Canadian Government's weather station at Resolute Bay, located in the Arctic Circle, says about this mysterious lighting, "The entire horizon is raised like magic, like the hand of God is bringing it up."

On December 1, 2004 the largest recorded blast sent not only shockwaves through the world scientific community but also through the Northern Hemisphere resulting in one of the largest weather events in recorded human history when 86,800 square miles of China was shrouded in fog, bringing transportation systems (especially air travel) to a virtual standstill throughout the country.

As reported by the BBC in this article from October, 2002, "German scientists have found a significant piece of evidence linking cosmic rays to climate change. They have detected charged particle clusters in the lower atmosphere that were probably caused by the space radiation. They say the clusters can lead to the condensed nuclei which form into dense clouds."

These German scientists from the from the Max Planck Institute of Nuclear Physics in Heidelberg go on to say that their measurements "have for the first time detected in the upper troposphere large positive ions with mass numbers up to 2500", and "Our observations provide strong evidence for the ion-mediated formation and growth of aerosol particles in the upper troposphere."

What they hadn't expected to happen though has been the large scale occurrences of this over the past few weeks, to include China on December 2nd and 14th and then India on the 21st, which is due to both China's and India's reliance on fossil fuels and the continuing degradation of their air quality.

The effects of these blasts have also been felt throughout the rest of the Northern Hemisphere resulting in such freak occurrences as, hurricane force winds in Paris , Germany, Canada, Russia, England and the United States on an almost simultaneous basis. Accompanying these hurricane force winter winds have been the massive cold fronts following them dropping normal winter lows to record lows throughout the entire Northern Hemisphere.

Though not yet at a point to acknowledge this publicly, some of the world's top scientists are beginning to see an astrophysical correlation between these cosmic ray blasts to our planet and an
ever increasing number of global events relating to atmospheric explosions of inbound meteors, such as those in Indonesia, where a meteorite was picked up by their Air Forces radar, China, where a meteorite explosion turned `night into day' and Washington D.C. where one police official stated, "It looked like a ball of fire falling out of the sky."

The world's top scientists have begun coordinating with Dr. Eun-Suk Seo from the United States University of Maryland, and her team, in a `search' for answers to the origin of these cosmic ray blasts directed from an unknown origin in space towards the South Pole and disrupting our global weather systems.

Under Dr. Eun-Suk Seo her and her international team's direction NASA launched a stratospheric balloon on December 20th from Antarctica's McMurdo base and have stated, "The balloon, following circulation of winds high, will sail around the ice continent for about three weeks.
During this time, data of great scientific interest will be gathered.
These data concern flows of charged particles of highest energy (cosmic rays) coming from Space."

But as one Russian scientist said to us, and who wished to remain anonymous, "Why this game? We all know what's happening." an apparent reference to the fact though these events are well known to both world governments and the scientific establishments they are beyond the understanding of the general public at large.

Whatever the end results these experiments reveal for these scientists, it remains an undisputed fact that this world of ours is facing a type of global cataclysmic event buried in our common geological past, and maybe, as some social scientists report, in our common ancestral memory also.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Dec 29th, 2004, 1:10pm

yeah ,then we have earthquakes and tidal waves killing 70'000 plus in south asia . cool winds in the middle of summer in darwin. oh by the way that earthquake registered 9 plus on the richter scale and sent the earth poles into a wobble. and i still keep getting the feeling that something big is about to happen. it's a scary world all right . mother nature will have her way and we mere flecks of dust in the universe had better take heed.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Dec 29th, 2004, 7:06pm

It brings it into perspective doesn't it? We could all be gone from the face of the earth by tomorrow morning and there's not a darn thing we could do about it. We're not just fleas on a dog, we're fleas on the fleas on the dog.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 3rd, 2005, 4:00pm

This is concerning the enormous disasters and tremendous loss of lives occurring in our times. Aren't you happy that we are not in charge of this Universe or responsible for its maintenance and survival? Aren't you happy that Angels and angelic UFOs have that job? We are important, and we do affect and influence not only our Planet, but also our Solar system and the rest of the Universe. Everything in Creation is connected and interrelated and dependent upon each other. Thank God there is a higher intelligence that monitors and protects Creation.

What we are witnessing now is the readjustment and realignment of this Planet and its lifeforms as the reaction to the stress and negative unbalance which we have created. If you wish to help to save our World then raise your consciousness level and have hope and faith that the Angels will save us from ourselves and remake us and our World to be more angelic and less animalistic. The mind is a very powerful force and our thoughts can help shape our World.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 3rd, 2005, 5:34pm

I have read several accounts of miraculous happenings during the tsunamis. One was about a snake floating by a woman holding on to her neighbors daughters. They rested on the snake that was a long as a tlephone pole and survived. Then there was a ten year old boy who was swept by the wave into the top of a tree and he survived. An at a restaurant, the parents of a one month old were swept outsdie and swam back into their restaurant. Their baby was floating unharmed on the bed mattresss. I have to cling to those stoires of miracles in order to help me handle the enormity of the world's loss of life. There was certainly some help coming to the survivors from somewhere, and I am always happy to hear of it.
Have a great week everyone.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 3rd, 2005, 5:35pm

Good grief! Sorry for all the typos, trying to rush through too many things at once this afternoon.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Jan 4th, 2005, 12:34pm

welcome creolelady . don't worry about the typo's, i don't even bother with high case.
it is amazing that in the aftermath of any disaster we always hear of the miraculous deeds of ordinary people . this is (the tsunamis) probably one of the worst disasters to hit the world in recent times , yet still in the midst of the horror and destruction the human spirit is triumphant. we in oz are being overwhelmed by the generosity of our own people toward the victims of this trajedy , and daily, selfless people are leaving our shores to volunteer their services to help people they do not know and who until recently regarded us with suspision. these are the true unsung heroes of the world ., the doctors , nurses ,charity organizations,phorensic sceintists, water engineers , and labourers who will eventually help these nations get back on their feet. and everybody who has donated in any way , no matter how large or small the donation should hold their heads high for they also are heroes and show the true human spirit that will eventually bring a lasting peace to this troubled world.
i hope all the terrorists and evil doers of this world are taking note of what is happening in the area of the disaster. for this is what you are fighting against , and this is what will defeat you .
the governments and people of over 30 countries came together in a very short time and did something as a joint effort without question. a first in my book, and a testimonial to the realisation that we are all together on this planet and we have to help each other. let us all hope that this is the start of a better understanding and cooperation for all the world.

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by hjdelight on Jan 4th, 2005, 1:15pm

Here, here! Well said. Even choked me up a little.

HJ
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 4th, 2005, 5:04pm

I agree hj, Diamond really brought the words to life. I too hope the terrorists and the evil doers are taking note because kindness is indeed far more powerful.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 10th, 2005, 6:18pm

I love your beautiful postings. There's another miracle that you can add. There were no dead bodies of animals as a result of this tsunami. I believe that there are Angels in charge of species of animals and of the trees in the forests and the creatures of nature who warned and protected these animals. Too bad we do not have the innocence and the protection similar to these animals.
What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Jan 11th, 2005, 1:18pm

ah yes irwyn. the sixth sense. fight or flight. we all possess it. that feeling of dread, when your hackles go up and you feel more aware of your surroundings . i have stated in a previous posting about how these same feelings have saved my own life in the past, several times , but only because i paid heed to the sense and acted accordingly. instinct or whatever you may like to call it. is as i say present in all , and the closer you become to nature and the living planet that surrounds you , likewise the sense becomes stronger.
i laughed when i first heard obi wan tell young luke (star wars) "trust in the force", because that is precisely what we should do , it is never wrong . and even if we cannot see the danger that we are alerted to it is wise to seek safety first before questioning .
i believe that many of those unfortunate souls who perished in the tsunami would have felt something was wrong long before the physical effects were evident. those that paid attention may well have survived.
lesson in point , if you see birds or any animals acting in a strange way ,( or even your own pets ) take note of your own feelings as well ,you may be surprised that you have a gut feeling to move or do something else. follow your instinct.
pets will always seek shelter when a storm is brewing, or about to happen . we rely on the weatherman. although modern technology can warn us of a severe storm or siesmic event, it is not always reliable . i have never known a dog , cat , or wild animal to be wrong in it's assessment of the situation. mother nature knows best and we are part of her.

diamond cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 11th, 2005, 2:39pm

Diamond,
I wholeheartedly agree that we all have that "sixth sense" but far too few heed it. I think of that little girl who trusted what she had learned, but more than that she trusted her own instinct that something horrible was coming. She saved her life and others in doing so. I always watch the skies for the bird's movement. We live in an area of Northwest Arkansas that is known for horrible spring storms and tornadic activity. I also pay attention to my dogs and cats, because they tend to act differently as well. I lean heavily on my own intuition because it has never steered me wrong. The times I did not trust my instincts, I paid for it. There is so much information surrounding us at any given time, we simply need to stop and listen to learn from it. Tomorrow we are in for some tough weather because the temps will climb to almost 70 (in mid January!), they are predicting spring like stroms here, so I will be watching nature for certain.
Have a great day.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Jan 12th, 2005, 11:36am

creolady, i hope the weather doesn't get too bad for you , seems there is bad stuff everywhere at this time . we have a cyclone off the qld coast at the moment and are waiting to see what it will do , but that's seasonal here so we expect it. bad bushfires in south australia have taken at least a dozen lives so far this week. fact of life here as well. the u.k. is being hit by big storms , and areas are being flooded . and now you guys are getting 70deg in the middle of winter. i agree with irwyn ,the world seems to be going through a cycle of change at this time and nature is letting us all know who is boss. we live in strange and uncertain times , but we must not let it all get us down as long as we stay aware and help where we can there are still good times to be had .
as for me , i think i'll have a nice cold beer and watch the birds in my backyard. wink cool

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 12th, 2005, 4:45pm

Do enjoy that cold beer and the birds in your backyard cheesy
Sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. After our 70 degrees today, we drop to 40 tomorrow. Yes indeed, change is in the air. Since I love the wind and there will be lots of it this evening, I will be outside enjoying it.
Have a very good one.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Jan 25th, 2005, 4:08pm

Isn't it facsinating that a survivor was found alive nerly 4 weeks after the tsunami & that so many animals escaped with their lives ? wink

Angels are among us !! wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 25th, 2005, 4:13pm

Absolutely! cheesy

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Jan 25th, 2005, 9:09pm

I know that the death toll was horrific, but even the fact that the expected outbreaks of cholorea etc have not occurred is amazing .......

More is going on than meets the eye ....... rolleyes
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 26th, 2005, 4:17pm

I do agree. In so many disadters in years past, the cholera came on quickely it seemed. This although horrible, has had so many incredible moments come from it. There is hope amidst the sorrow and I hang onto that because I can't stand to think of that number being taken so quickly. And to think of those who have to go on with their loved ones gone. It will take all of the courage they have. And a lot of compassion from those around them.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Jan 27th, 2005, 8:21pm

I hope & pray that their lives can somehow get back to a sense of norlmacy.

Maybe they will be comforted by spirits/angels of their loved ones...... I would like to think so . smileyTEXT

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 28th, 2005, 4:07pm

I think maybe it depends on how their view death...an ending or a continuation, or a new beginning. I just hope and pray for some peace for those who must go on..........
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jan 30th, 2005, 2:16pm

Today, I was reading an article in the paper about Tsunami victims. The people are being frightened so much that some have taken to putting up grafitti saying "Ghosts are everywhere." Those poor people don't realize perhaps that they may actually be haunted by survivor's guilt. They are having to deal with their personal grief, the clean-up, getting supplies, and rebuilding.
Their was a photo of a mom holding her 4 month old son. Her seven year old and eleven year old sons were swept away and never found. She said she can't even cry anymore. It breaks my heart, and though I have donated, I still feel so helpless. I can only in my mind imagine hugging her and all the others who are grief stricken and suffering. There are just no words that can heal those wounds, but I believe firmly that love is not bound by space and time. It lives with the soul and the soul is not bund to one spot. At least in my beliefs. Perhaps I can't be there to help rebuild, but I an send out an awful lot of love. Sorry for rambling here on the forum, but my heart just breaks for these people, and it hurts to see the stories.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 30th, 2005, 4:27pm

Just a word of cheer for you guys and gals. Before you feel sorry for yourselves, check out your value system. How do you think? If you think good thoughts, then you are contributing to the good and welfare of this World. It isn't always important to perform physical accomplishments, because these are soon lost in the statistical records and history books. The mind is the most powerful force in the Universe. Look at the trash and negative output from television shows. These affect the general psychology and attitude of viewers.
Television also affects the young and impressionable minds of children. This has become a negative Planet, because of the negative thoughts of people.

Try to change the World by thinking good and positive thoughts!

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Jan 30th, 2005, 6:24pm

QUOTE=timetraveler
"It isn't always important to perform physical accomplishments, because these are soon lost in the statistical records and history books."

Yeah, but timetraveler, physical accomplishments make us feel better, especially for those who feel.

oljack666
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Feb 4th, 2005, 10:42am

Making a difference isn't always about getting in the History books ......... wink

Sometimes its just done because its the right thing to do ............ grin


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 4th, 2005, 5:56pm

FYI, [PART1]

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:58 AM
Subject: Fw: Russian Military Movements towards Protected Areas


> FYI. I have no way of verifying if this is true or not.....
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:51 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Russian Military Movements towards Protected Areas
>
>
>
> February 3, 2005
>
> Russian Military Movements towards Protected Areas Beginning
>
> By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers
>
> Catastrophic worldwide weather chaos coupled with Defense Minister
> Sergei Ivanov's sudden visit to our Siberian military district are
> serving today as a warning for the start of immediate preparations for
> more severe chaotic events to come shortly it now appears.
>
> Military activity has increased to a level not seen in decades and
> many high level military officials have been leaving our region by
> aircraft bound for the great underground city beneath Yamantau Gora
> Mountain it is also being reported. Much frantic activity is also
> being seen with many thousands of animals migrating towards the
> interior spaces between our mountains and leaving costal areas with
> much speed.
>
> Strange news has also been received from the United States that a
> mistake in their Emergency Broadcasting System signaled an evacuation
> of one of their Eastern coastal regions, Connecticut.
>
> We can see in this news report where it is said, "State emergency
> management officials said a worker entered the wrong code during the
> weekly test of the emergency alert system, leading television viewers
> and radio listeners to believe that the state was being evacuated. "
> Civil authorities have issued an immediate evacuation order for all of
> Connecticut, beginning at 2:10 p.m. and ending at 3:10 p.m.," a
> message that scrolled across television screens read."
>
> Though being dismissed by many Americans as a mistaken order this
> message does provide a notice that the American authorities are also
> aware of impending events and are themselves in preparation for the
> massive evacuations of their costal residents. It is interesting to
> note too that the time frame as specified in this warning coincides
> with the massive continuing sun explosions now occurring. It is
> estimated that the giant explosive regions of the sun, soon to be
> facing earthward, will occur in less than a week's time.
>
> Continued bombardment of the earth of the massive and increasing
> energy 'blasts', of which I have written of before to you, are
> wrecking unprecedented damage upon the Southern Hemispheric Regions
> and greatly affecting all of the earth's weather systems.
>
> Madagascar has been affected to such an extent that it is now being
> reported, "The United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) today
> started sending supplies of emergency rice to thousands of people
> affected by Cyclone Ernest and the ensuing tropical storm that struck
> south west Madagascar last week. "Everyone who has been affected by
> these two terrible storms will receive relief food," WFP Deputy
> Country Director Gianluca Ferrera said. "We will have a better picture
> of what's needed in a day or two but in the meantime, food will be
> distributed to those who have been most critically affected by the
> flooding."
>
> In the South America region one of the worst hit countries has been
> Guyana, and which we can read, "Guyana faces four more days of
> rainfall after the heaviest January rains in more than 100 years
> caused floods affecting more than a third of the population, the
> United Nations said."
>
>
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 4th, 2005, 5:58pm

FYI,[part2]

In news reports from Tanzania we read, "Heavy downpour that hit Dar es
> Salaam and its suburbs yesterday was unusual and in fact the highest
> on record since 1953." , and massive flooding is also occurring in
> Mozambique, and as we read, "Flooding on the lower Zambezi in central
> Mozambique continued over the weekend, and on Monday the National
> Water Board (DNA) warned that the situation is likely to worsen."
>
> Aside from these areas one of the worst hit countries has been
> Australia where again yesterday massive storms have hit, and as we can
> read from their news reports, "Around 100,000 homes throughout Sydney,
> the Central Coast and surrounding areas are without electricity after
> big storms which swept the region this afternoon. Strong winds brought
> down trees, and heavy rain caused flash flooding which caught some
> people in their cars. The big storms brought rainfall of up to 20
> millimetres in an hour."
>
> This adds to the increasing events of these past weeks where in
> Australia they have also recorded their highest temperatures for
> January in their historical records, and also historically high rain.
>
> Not being spared has been the Northern Hemispheric region where even
> our capital Moscow has been affected by suffering the heaviest snows
> to have ever occurred there, and as one news report says, "A powerful
> snowstorm that raged in Moscow on Friday was the heaviest day's
> snowfall since weather records began, forcing planes to divert away
> from airports, snarling city traffic and making pedestrians wade
> through meter-high snowdrifts. Friday's snowfall was equivalent to
> precipitation of 9.4 millimeters, smashing the previous record of 7.8
> millimeters set in 1977, the city's weather bureau said."
>
> Even in our own region the numbers of cyclones are unprecedented, and
> as said in one news article, "A strong cyclone is moving to Kamchatka
> from the Sea of Japan. A storm warning was announced for operational
> services in the region and the fleet near the coast of the peninsula,
> the Kamchatka meteorological centre told Itar-Tass on Monday.
> According to weathermen, the record norm of precipitation for the last
> five years fell in the south of the peninsula in January 2005. Such
> heavy snowfalls were registered last time in 1999."
>
> World wide weather disasters are becoming so common place and without
> scientific explanation that an Indian government political information
> website has said about them, "(The) World is experiencing some extreme
> weathers and weather forecasters in all parts of the world are just
> failing for reasons unknown to all."
>
> Not just the weather is of concern to the world's scientists and
> government authorities but also the increasing numbers of meteors
> exploding in the earth's atmosphere in numbers unprecedented in
> recorded history.
>
> Spanish news sources have reported in the past few days, "Residents of
> the area near Madrid airport reported seeing a ball of fire explode
> and disintregrate in skies over the Spanish capital overnight,
> security services said."
>
> This joins the hundreds of other reported events of these meteors from
> all around the world including:
>
> On December 4th in the New England Region of the United States where
> it is says, "the bright flash light up the clouds, three seconds later
> came the boom"
>
> On December 6th over Australia where it was reported, "An eerie,
> constant, low rumbling sound accompanied the explosions." From
> 'fireballs'.
>
> On December 12th the reports from the Washington D.C. Region of the
> United States that says, "It looked like a ball of fire falling out of
> the sky.".
>
> On December 13th the report of the fireball that lit up the skies of
> China 'turning night into day'.
>
> On December 16th from the Utah Region of the United States where it
> was reported, "Meteor May Have Fallen in Salt Lake"
>
> On December 19th where in Indonesia a news report was headlined,
> "Meteor suspected amid unexplained sightings and blast in Indonesia"
>
> On December 21st where an unknown asteroid, and since named 2004 YD5,
> was discovered flying past the earth and under our satellites.
>
> On January 5th where in the Wisconsin Region of the United States a
> news report says, "Authorities in north central Wisconsin received
> dozens of reports Tuesday evening of bright flashes of light in the
> sky, as from an explosion, and they said it likely came from meteor
> activity."
>
> On January 7th where in the Alaskan Region of the United States a news
> report says, "Juneau residents saw a fiery ball traversing the sky."
>
> On January 12th where in India it is reported, "I saw a huge ball of
> fire in the air. It raced down to the earth so fast that before I
> could do anything."
>
> On January 26th where in Cambodia it is reported, "It made a noise
> like a bomb exploding, it's a good thing it didn't land in the village
> or people could have been killed."
>
> Concern is also increasing due to a large number of the world's 1,500
> active volcanoes becoming simultaneously active in recent weeks and
> the effects of these volcanic eruptions towards more global weather
> chaos. Even of more concern are the worlds super volcanoes, and to
> which the British press has recently said, "Slumbering supervolcanoes
> powerful enough to wipe out much of the planet may awaken much sooner
> than it had previously been thought. Experts believed it would take
> hundreds of thousands of years for reservoirs of molton rock, or
> magma, beneath a supervolcano to build for an eruption. But a new
> study indicates the time between super-eruptions can actually be tens
> of thousands of years - and many are already long overdue."
>
> "Residents of Guam in the Mariana Islands are suffering from sickness
> from volcanic haze due to the eruption of Anatahan Volcano. Dozens of
> people have arrived at Guam's only hospital complaining of respiratory
> problems and headaches." , it is being reported, and also that the
> Manam Volcano in Papua New Guinea eruption reached the stratosphere,
> "where in one hour the ash cloud reached a diameter of 180km and an
> altitude of 21-24km."
>
> To all of these events it has been our confusion as to why more
> Western people are not heeding in great numbers these many hundreds of
> warnings. Even to their past prophets of their own religions, who
> have foretold them about these events, they are not heeding. But as
> we become more acquainted with them we can see that they have no plans
> for survival, other than in small groups that are shunned by others.
>
> Today as we, and many other peoples of world, prepare for survival,
> the Western people really do not know what to do. Confronted with the
> enormity of world events pressing upon their lives they are not facing
> reality, but are instead hiding themselves behind false masks of
> bravery and their believed intellectual superiority over others.
>
> I do not understand them; I do not believe that they even understand
> themselves.

What do you think? Irwyn
>

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Feb 4th, 2005, 6:29pm

Timetraveler: What happened to................

"Try to change the World by thinking good and positive thoughts!"

I'm in depression after reading your last post.

Anybody got a Xanax or a Valium.

oljack666
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 4th, 2005, 7:02pm

Not all people in the West are blind and ignorant to what is going on. And not all consider themselves so superior as that article suggested. Those who are listening and hearing may not be shouting with a loud voice, but be assured they are there. There are many people from around the world who discuss these very events on this forum and others. The word is being spread to prepare, but prepare for exactly what? We know nature and our climate are in a state of upheaval at this time. There is certainly need to change our ways. Aside from that, we may be able to stock up on supplies, but we may not know exactly where the problem will be tomorrow.
What do you think timetraveler?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Feb 4th, 2005, 9:32pm

It's one thing to recognize it all and then try to understand it the best way we can, but we are so small and the problems are all so big that we feel helpless.

Knowing this, we instead put it away in the back of our minds and only hope it will fix itself.

This isn't a matter of governments taking action but rather all peoples of earth taking action. At this point, it comes to the front of our minds when we read such things and immediately we put it away again all well knowing that the situation is futile.

There are two kinds of scientists. There are those that "think" they know what is causing the problem and there are those that are skeptics when it comes to what the other scientists "think". Which one would you go with?

Governments must start listening to those that "think" and push aside the skeptics or nothing will happen. The downside is, if they do heed the words of science, heavy duty laws would be put in place that would affect multitudes of industries. This is what government dreads so find it easier to lean toward the skeptics.

Again, it's all about the all mighty dollar. It's always been about the all mighty dollar. It makes the world go around. What politician in government today wants to contend with that problem? None. Once again, the following statement I find oh so true.

"We must prevent human tragedy rather than run around trying to save ourselves after an event has already occurred. Unfortunately, history clearly shows that we arrive at catastrophe by failing to meet the situation, by failing to act when we should have acted. The opportunity passes us by and the next disaster is always more difficult and compounded than the last one."
Eleanor Roosevelt

Even after understanding that profound insight she had about our future, the following statement shows us that the current generations living are probably not capable of remedying the problems of today and will have to depend on future generations for big change. Will there be time left to do so?

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them."
Albert Einstein

Our generation created them.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 5th, 2005, 09:44am

And if we wait for the government to step in and fix the problems we will run out of time. The governments not only run by the power of the dollar, but decisions are not made by a prime minister or president alone. It has to be agreed upon by many. We can all right to our representatives and senators to push for change. But I think we need to start with individuals first. We can't control much of what is happening right now, but we can control our individual contributions to the problems. And we can make others aware and try to infuence them to be more concerned. And it is so impritant to teach our children to be more responsible than our generation has been.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Feb 5th, 2005, 11:15am

As in so many other things... EINSTEIN hit the nail right on the head !!

Maybe the kids can grow up to get our Govt's straightened out.....

After all, WHO works for WHOM huh
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 5th, 2005, 11:33am

Einstein is just way cool as far as I am concerned. I think he was very wise about a lot of things that were not necessarily just scientific. He just knew.....
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Feb 5th, 2005, 3:13pm

I always felt he was a true genius, but didn't take himself TOO seriously ----- after all, a theory is just a THEORY, until proven ! wink

Plus, what a COOL hair-do !!!! cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 5th, 2005, 5:18pm

I had pictures of Einstein around the house and a tee shirt with him on it when my son was just a couple of years old. He inherited the tee shirt to sleep in and he knows the man is someone quite special. Teach them while they are young I say wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2005, 6:02pm

Creole lady; we are dealing with a very difficult problem. I agree with Einstein that mankind cannot fix this problem. Governments cannot fix this problem because they are part of the problem. I myself have trust and faith that the Angels and the angelic UFOs will fix this problem. I have no faith in Mankind. I have dealt with Angels and have witnessed their miraculous powers, therefore I am optimistic and have a positive attitude that the higher intelligences will save mankind, in spite of itself.

We can help them do this awesome undertaking by using our minds to think higher thoughts in order to raise the level of consciousness of this planet. In this way, we are creating a positive environment and supplying this planet with creative and positive energies. Have faith and hope and believe that mankind will go through this crisis in order to evolute to a higher and more angelic species.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 5th, 2005, 6:56pm

Timetraveler, faith is something I have a great deal of. My faith and ability to focus my thoughts on positive outcomes has carried me through many horrible events in my life. I do not doubt my ability at all to use my thoughts and my energy to reach out where and when I need to. I also know that there are a great number of humans on this planet who have the ability to focus this energy and bring about change. They are no doubt being guided. I was taught in youth to be concerned and to be touched and feel the pain of others because when we are mindful of their suffering we are more apt to reach out no matter how far away the person or the problem is. I have seen many examples of this in my life. I have a great deal of faith that their are humans who respond to the call to reach out to others. I truly believe change can happen when all who listen pull together with their collective energy and reach out to as many as possible.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Feb 5th, 2005, 7:44pm

Well said .......

Positive change can happen when caring humans pull together towards a common goal ...... FAITH can unite folks in a mighty way --- not just divide them wink

If we are to truly evolve as a planet, why don't we unite behind the common goals, core desires and best interests of mankind ........ Our alien visitors would find a much rougher time overcoming us if we do . smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Feb 5th, 2005, 8:20pm

Time will answer all our queries, and the time is at hand.

I'm probably going to stay out of this one except for maybe a paragraph or two. Timetravelers partly right but not that he's wrong either, he's just omitting some things or not thinking about all of the possibilites.

Timetraveler, in respect to yourself and the spirits, how much work could they have accomplished without you? The answer is none. How much work could mine accomplish without me? The answer is again, none. Now, who's saving the world, angelic extraterrestrials, human spirits, you, me, multitudes of others in the same boat as you and I, average Joe, or all of the above?

All of the above.

One thing is for sure though, without the extraterrestrial intervention none of this would be happening right now. This we'll both agree on, but it is not of their design alone.

oljack666



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 6th, 2005, 09:54am

I agree oljack, we have had a lot of intervention, but it was with human involvement as well as outside intervention.
Sorry timetraveler, if I came across wrong or misunderstood something you said. We all need to act with faith and hope, and be open to each other. And I appreciate you pointing that out timetraveler. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Feb 6th, 2005, 11:48am

can you imagine the positive vibes being emitted if all you wonderful people on this website were in the same room ? i reckon you'd blow the roof off. keep the faith people . wink smiley

diamond cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 6th, 2005, 5:26pm

Allow me to clarify; there is no doubt in my mind that the work that is being done on this planet is a coordinated effort involving the people, the UFOs, and the Angels. All of these helpers are necessary to accomplish this gigantic task.

Let me level the playing field. I do not receive messages from dead spirits, neither do I receive messages from deceased gurus or avatars or Saints. I do not communicate with astral bodies or creatures from the fourth dimension. I am priveleged to communicate with Angels and angelic UFOs.


To the best to my knowledge, I have never been abducted by the grays and my life has been saved many many times from attacks from forces of evil by my guardian Angels.

Many years ago, my client, pschiatrist, Dr. Rosenblum, telephoned me and asked me to come to his office to help one of his patients with my psychic talent. This was a girl who could not sleep at night, because her brother who had been killed in a motorcycle accident a few weeks prior kept coming to her in her dreams at night and he kept calling to her and she could not sleep and she was losing a lot of weight.

When I arrived at his office I talked to the girl, and at this time I saw a vision of the back of my head and I saw a large padlock that was locked, then I saw the padlock was opened and I was able to communicate with the dead brother. I told her that the brother was selfishly trying to pull her into the grave for him to have company. I told this spirit that this was wrong and that he should stop trying to kill his sister. I also told his sister not to feel sorry for him and to protect herself from him.

The point is that my Angels were showing me by the padlock symbol that they have locked me off from communicating with the dead and the 4th dimension to protect me.

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:03pm

fyi;
UFO Sighting and Strange Signals reported again in Indian Ocean – sub tectonic experiment?
Staff Reporter
January 24, 2005

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"People are again reporting heavy UFO sighting in Nicobar Island, Andaman, India, Maldives, and Sri Lanka coastal areas. The animals in these areas are again showing strange behavior. The fishermen and their families this time are taking these signs seriously and are refusing to move near the ocean. The tribal people of Andaman Nicobar Island have again moved to the high grounds. The sea birds are also showing strange signals.

The UFO sightings happen at night with strange lights. The continuation of tremors of 6 or less Richter scale seems never ending. The ships traveling between India’s mainland and the Andaman-Nocobar Island as well commercial fishermen in Indian Ocean are reporting strange signals as well as jamming of their radio channels.



According to some experts, these are signs of possible experimentation with tectonic plates by some entity. People in Nicobar island complaints something is going on under the ocean – deep underground – many miles below the water surface.

The pattern of aftershocks is also strange. Normally on plotting the same they show a gradual decrease in the moving average of Richter scale reported. This time no pattern can be found. After one large aftershock, a considerable time lapses before the next one. It seems someone is controlling the after shocks and making sure plates are not over stressed. Andaman and Nicobar islands has experienced 121 aftershocks between 5.2 and 6.2 Richter scale. The Geologists in India are closely tracking these aftershocks and cannot find a pattern. The only pattern that can be found is a large lapse after a considerable aftershock.

A sailor in the Shipping Authority of India Limited who also sailed in transatlantic shipping routes says, this part of the Indian ocean resembles now Bermuda triangle region.

In Burmuda triangle part of Atlantic ocean manifest strange behavior and ships as well as aircrafts vanish.

But there is a difference. Here the disturbance seems to be coming from the tectonic plate levels.

One explanation can be some entity doing underground research with moving plates. It is known that some countries have research projects on creating artificial earthquakes. The other possibility is bizarre. Many in Indian coastal areas now believe that the UFO sighting before the Tsunami had something to do with the Tsunami."

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:06pm

fyi; page2
UFO Sighting and Strange Signals reported again in Indian Ocean – sub tectonic experiment?
Staff Reporter
January 24, 2005

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This time they believe the extra-terrestrials are doing something out there deep under the ocean. There are UFO researchers all around the world that believe in UFO underground bases. These bases are mostly suspected in areas where one tectonic plate goes on top of another plate. This provides a thicker crust of earth to build bases that needs miles of deep crust of earth.


What is really strange is that during low tide or any time when ocean recedes leaving a wider beach area, the sea birds have a feast on the fishes left in the beach. But these days the sea birds actually fly inland when this is happening. The number of wild animals in the coastal areas also has diminished. Why are animals not coming back to the ocean coastal areas? Are they sensing possibility of another Tsunami?

Experimentation or construction deep under the tectonic plates can cause mega earthquakes. Some have blamed deep drilling in the Indian ocean i for oil and Gas exploration by India, Bangladesh and Mayanmar. But these drillings are not that deep that can cause mega earthquakes.

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:10pm

more fyi;
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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:15pm

more fyi;
ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood
By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 14 January 2005
06:47 am ET


Decades ago, it was physicist Enrico Fermi who pondered the issue of extraterrestrial civilizations with fellow theorists over lunch, generating the famous quip: "Where are they?" That question later became central to debates about the cosmological census count of other star folk and possible extraterrestrial (ET) visitors from afar.

Fermi’s brooding on the topic was later labeled "Fermi’s paradox". It is a well-traveled tale from the 1950’s when the scientist broached the subject in discussions with colleagues in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Thoughts regarding the probability of earthlike planets, the rise of highly advanced civilizations "out there", and interstellar travel -- these remain fodder for trying to respond to Fermi’s paradox even today.

Now a team of American scientists note that recent astrophysical discoveries suggest that we should find ourselves in the midst of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, they argue it is a mistake to reject all UFO reports since some evidence for the theoretically-predicted extraterrestrial visitors might just be found there.

The researchers make their proposal in the January/February 2005 issue of the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society (JBIS).

Curious situation

Pick up any good science magazine and you’re sure to see the latest in head-scratching ideas about superstring theory, wormholes, or the stretching of spacetime itself. Meanwhile, extrasolar planetary detection is on the verge of becoming mundane.

"We are in the curious situation today that our best modern physics and astrophysics theories predict that we should be experiencing extraterrestrial visitation, yet any possible evidence of such lurking in the UFO phenomenon is scoffed at within our scientific community," contends astrophysicist Bernard Haisch.

Haisch along with physicists James Deardorff, Bruce Maccabee and Harold Puthoff make their case in the JBIS article: "Inflation-Theory Implications for Extraterrestrial Visitation".

The scientists point to two key discoveries made by Australian astronomers and reported last year that there is a "galactic habitable zone" in our Milky Way Galaxy. And more importantly that Earth’s own star, the Sun, is relatively young in comparison to the average star in this zone -- by as much as a billion years.

Therefore, the researchers explain in their JBIS article that an average alien civilization would be far more advanced and have long since discovered Earth. Additionally, other research work on the supposition underlying the Big Bang -- known as the theory of inflation -- shores up the prospect, they advise, that our world is immersed in a much larger extraterrestrial civilization.

Point-to-point distances

Given billion-year advanced physics, might not buzzing around the galaxy be possible?

Even today superstring theory hypothesizes other dimensions... which could be habitable Universes adjacent to our own, the researchers speculate. It might even be possible to get around the speed of light limit by moving in and out of these dimensions.

"What we have done is somewhat of a breakthrough," Haisch told SPACE.com. "We have pulled together various recent discoveries and theoretical issues that collectively point to the strong probability that we should be in the midst of one or more huge extraterrestrial civilizations," he said.

Haisch said that superstring dimensions and wormhole and spacetime stretching possibilities address the "can't get here from there" objection often argued in view of the interstellar, point-to-point distances involved. Also, diffusion models predict that even a single civilization could spread across the Galaxy in a tiny fraction of the age of the Galaxy - even at sub-light speeds, he said.

ET signature in the data

Can the scientific community bring itself to consider any evidence coming from mysterious sightings of strange things by the public?

In large measure, the scientific community seemingly has eyed ET visitation as far from being serious stuff to cogitate over. Why so?

"The dismissal has several causes, all reinforcing each other," Haisch responded. "Most of
the observations are probably misinterpretations, delusions and hoaxes. I have seen people get confused by Venus or even Sirius when it is flashing colors low in the sky under the right conditions. Having been turned off by this, most scientists never bother to look any further, and so are simply blissfully ignorant that there may be more to it," he said.

Deardorff, the lead author of the JBIS article, points out in a press statement: "It would take some humility for the scientific community to suspend its judgment and take at least some of the high quality reports seriously enough to investigate…but I hope we can bring ourselves to do that."

According to Haisch, there is a motivation not just for scientific tolerance of the UFO issue, but a strong scientific prediction that there ought to be some genuine ET signature in the data.

"This potentially changes the relationship of the UFO phenomenon to science in a significant way. It takes away the ‘not invented here’ prejudice, pointing out that a ‘yes’ to ET visitation is exactly what side our current physics and astrophysics theories would come down on as the most likely situation," Haisch concluded.



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:20pm

fyi;an excercise in thinking;

CHANGING THE PAST!
Can we change our past history and our future? You bet we can and........ just how far down the "Rabbit Hole" do we want to go?
QUANTUM PHYSICS LOOKS AT HISTORY --recent or later
by Paul Levy

Quantum physics points out that the way we observe the universe in this
present moment literally evokes the universe that is observed. Our
perception of the universe is a part of the universe that is happening
through us that has an effect on the universe that we are observing. Quantum
physics points out that it makes no sense whatsoever to talk of an objective
universe separate or independent from the observer. To quote noted physicist
John Wheeler "Useful as it is under everyday circumstances to say that the
world exists out there," independent of us, that ! view can no longer be
upheld.There is a strange sense in which this is a participatory universe.

In a variation of the classic "two-slit experiment," which is
the cornerstone of quantum physics, Wheeler has demonstrated in the "delayed
choice experiment" that not only does our act of observation in this
moment effect the way the universe manifests in this present moment, but
that the act of observation in this present moment actually has an effect on
the past. This bit of quantum weirdness seems particularly relevant for our
current times after the controversial presidential election of 2004 as well ! as senate confirmations and environmental&bsp ; "shake-ups" plus HUBBLE TELESCOPE destruction plans.

Consensus reality, as embodied in the views of classical physics, describes
the present as having a particular past. Quantum physics, on the other hand,
because of its probabilistic nature enlarges the arena of history such that
the past is an amalgam of all possible pasts that are compatible with the
version of the present moment that we are currently experiencing. The
quantum universe is one in which the past involves a wide range of possible
pasts all co-existing in a state of unmanifested potential. Speaking in
physics terms, by imagining the past to be a certain way, we literally
collapse the infinite potentiality of the past's wave function, and
coalesce the past as being something very particular. This is analogous to
the quantum physicist's question: is it a wave or ! a particle? And the
answer of course, is that it depends on how we are observing

The quantum universe is one which pulsates in and out of the void multiple
times every nano-second, endlessly recreating itself anew. Each moment
brings with it a potentially new past, which we are the builders of, in the
present moment. In this present moment right now there are endless
possibilities, it is an infinitely textured moment in time seething with
unmanifested poental.In the future, when we consider this
multi-dimensional moment we are in now, we will probably focus our attention
and only remember a certain slice or aspect of this very moment, solidifying it in time, and this will be our memory' of that seemingly past event. And yet, by the way we
remember this present moment in the future will have an
actual efect o n the way that moment in the future manifests. So on the one
hand, the way we contemplate the past has a creative effect on how the
present moment manifests.

What Wheeler is pointing out through the delayed choice
experiment, though, is that the past doesn't actually exist in a solid and
objective way that causes or determines our present moment experience like
is imagined by classical physics. Rather, he is saying our situation is just
the opposite. He is saying that by the way we observe in this present moment
we actually reach back into time and create the past. It is not just the
future that's undetermined, but the past as well; just as there are
probable' futures there are probable' pasts. Our present observations select
one out of many possible quantum histories for the universe.

We have entranced ourselves and fallen under a self-created spell if we!
imagine that the past xists in a solid, objectve way. To quote Wheeler "It
is wrong to think of that past as already existing..the past has no
existence except as it is recorded in the present." When we become convinced
that the past exists in a solid way, we solidify it in our imagination as
being that particular way, which will thereby create compelling evidence
that proves the rightness of our point of view (that the past really is that
way). When we imagine that the past is a particular way, for example, this
conviction effects our present moment experience AS IF the past really was
that way, which just confirms to us our conviction tha the past REALLY IS
that way, which just makes the past seem even more AS IF it really was that
way, ad infinitum.

This is to fall into a self-created and infinitely self-confirming feedback
loop that is synchronistic and atemporal in its operation and thereby has
the nature of a! self-fulfilling prophecy. We have unwittingly literally
ypnotized ourselves by our on power of effecting reality by the way we
observe it. Because of the limited and limiting way we view the past it
seems convincingly solid and objectively existing in a way that it simply is
not. The past is much more malleable than we have been imagining. For what
really did happen in the past? For that matter, what is actually happening
right now?

In a circular, non-linear and acausal feedback loop, the past effects us in
this present moment, while at the same time, in this present moment we
effect the past. The way we observe the past in this present moment actually
effects th past hich simultaneously effects us in this present moment in
what I call a synchronistic, cybernetic feedback loop.' The doorway is the
present momen! t, which is the point whre our power to shape reality is to be
found. In quantum physics the universe wasn't created billions of years ago
in the big bang but rather is being created right now by what Wheeler refers
to as "enesisby observership." The mystery of this universe doesn't lie at
some point way back in the past, but rather, right now, in this very living
present moment.

This quantum perspective on the past arising or being conjured up out of and
into the present moment collapses the sense of sequential time and linear
causality. This points to the non-local nature of space and time, in that
the past, present, and future completely interpenetrate and are inseparable
from each other. In a bit of quantum weirdness, if we ask whether the
universe really existed before we started looking at t, the nswer w get
from the universe is that it looks as if it existed before we started
looking at it.

Quantum physics! is describing what I call the physics of the dreamlike nature of r eality. Like a mass shared dream, we are all literally moment by
moment calling forth and collaboratively dreaming up' this very universe
into materialization. And dreams, by thei very nture do't exist in a
flat-land' where they are fixed in meaning, but are extremely
multi-dimensional. When we contemplate the past in this very moment, it has
the same ontological status of and no more reality than a dream we had last
night. Just like this present moment, when we contemplate it tomorrow, will
in that present moment have no more reality than a figment of our
imagination.

What actually did happen on November 2? Did George Bush win the
election? If this universe is like quantum physcs
dscribes,nbsp; we are only NOT able to do anything about it because of our
own self-imposed limitations and a failure of our imagination in this very moment. If even soe of the overwhelming evidence that Bush is bent on
eliminating enviornmental controls and true scientific investigation of space and the contraversal stem cell research is true, can we step into a universe in this very moment in which
we have the power to do something about it? Or is the past written in stone?
Quantum physics points out that this is a participatory universe in which
the power to change reality is literally in our hands at every moment and
that the choice is truly ours. Let us not get fooled into giving away our
power by the source of our real power, namely, the reality-creating function
of our own sacred imagination.
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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:32pm

I was finallyable to copy the paintings onto this website. Please click on the links.

http://www.crystalinks.com/christmas2.html
Jesus - Link With UFO'S
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A fourteenth century fresco of the Madonna and Child depict on the top right side the image of a UFO hovering in the distance. A blow up of this fresco reveals tremendous details about this UFO including port holes. It seems to indicate a religious involvement between UFO's and the appearance of the Christ Child.
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This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the object.

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This is a 17th century fresco and is located in the Svetishoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia. Note the two saucer shaped craft on either side of Christ.

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"The Baptism of Christ"
A disk shaped object is shining beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus - Painted in 1710 Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 9th, 2005, 2:40pm

fyi;

"Animal-Human Hybrids Spark Controversy

Maryann Mott
National Geographic News

January 25, 2005
Scientists have begun blurring the line between human and animal by producing chimeras—a hybrid creature that's part human, part animal.

Chinese scientists at the Shanghai Second Medical University in 2003 successfully fused human cells with rabbit eggs. The embryos were reportedly the first human-animal chimeras successfully created. They were allowed to develop for several days in a laboratory dish before the scientists destroyed the embryos to harvest their stem cells.


In Minnesota last year researchers at the Mayo Clinic created pigs with human blood flowing through their bodies.

And at Stanford University in California an experiment might be done later this year to create mice with human brains.

Scientists feel that, the more humanlike the animal, the better research model it makes for testing drugs or possibly growing "spare parts," such as livers, to transplant into humans.

Watching how human cells mature and interact in a living creature may also lead to the discoveries of new medical treatments.

But creating human-animal chimeras—named after a monster in Greek mythology that had a lion's head, goat's body, and serpent's tail—has raised troubling questions: What new subhuman combination should be produced and for what purpose? At what point would it be considered human? And what rights, if any, should it have?

There are currently no U.S. federal laws that address these issues.

Ethical Guidelines

The National Academy of Sciences, which advises the U.S. government, has been studying the issue. In March it plans to present voluntary ethical guidelines for researchers.

A chimera is a mixture of two or more species in one body. Not all are considered troubling, though.

For example, faulty human heart valves are routinely replaced with ones taken from cows and pigs. The surgery—which makes the recipient a human-animal chimera—is widely accepted. And for years scientists have added human genes to bacteria and farm animals.

What's caused the uproar is the mixing of human stem cells with embryonic animals to create new species.

Biotechnology activist Jeremy Rifkin is opposed to crossing species boundaries, because he believes animals have the right to exist without being tampered with or crossed with another species.

He concedes that these studies would lead to some medical breakthroughs. Still, they should not be done.

"There are other ways to advance medicine and human health besides going out into the strange, brave new world of chimeric animals," Rifkin said, adding that sophisticated computer models can substitute for experimentation on live animals.

"One doesn't have to be religious or into animal rights to think this doesn't make sense," he continued. "It's the scientists who want to do this. They've now gone over the edge into the pathological domain."

David Magnus, director of the Stanford Center for Biomedical Ethics at Stanford University, believes the real worry is whether or not chimeras will be put to uses that are problematic, risky, or dangerous."

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 15th, 2005, 6:04pm

fyi: notice in this research that Orion is mentioned as the place to go when the spirit leaves the body. It is my belief that Orion and Sirius had actual contact with the ancient priests of Egypt and instructed them in esoteric science and astral projection. It is too small minded to think that this planet has not been visited by ET's in the past. Most ancient books, confirm visitations from God's, Angels, demons and various other visitors.

"The ancient Egyptian culture was a very optimistic culture. The Nile River flooded regularly and predictably, and its silt deposits created fertile land. During the Old Kingdom, there were no outside invasions, partly because the Nile has a series of cataracts which make navigation difficult, and it is surrounded by the Sahara, the world's largest desert, on the west and cliffs on the east. Ancient egyptian culture developed in isolation from other cultures, and produced a stable yet stagnant civilization.

In this enviroment, Egyptians saw life as a positive thing, and viewed the afterlife as a positive extension of life itself. They believed that their deeds were directly related to the quality of their afterlife, as seen in the Book of the Dead. Egyptians memorized such poems as the "Negative Confession," designed to prove to Osiris that they were pure and deserved a pleasant afterlife. Osiris then weighed their deeds on the balance scale of life.

The pharoah was considered to be the living Horus and the Osiris of the underworld, and to have power over life and death. He was fully divine, and his ka, or soul, had to be preserved so that he could live on as Osiris in the afterlife. Egyptians believed that the ka had t o have a ba, or body, to exist, and Egyptians learned to mummify bodies. Our best description of this process comes from Herodotus, a Greek historian of the 5th century b.c.e.

The pyramids were built to house and protect the pharoah's mummy, and are a good example of our course theme: form follows function. The pyramids are also called "stairways to heaven," as they appear to reach forth to heaven. Once a year, Egyptians would have the "opening of the mouth" of the pharoah ceremony, in which the pharoah's mouth would be pried open and he would refertilize the constellation of Isis to ensure a bountiful harvest. The pharoah literally ascended into the heavens to mate with Isis, the goddess of fertility; hence, the pyramids reached into the heavens physically to help his spiritual journey.

There are some 80 remaining pyramids in egypt today. The earliest pyramd was built during the third dynasty for the pharoah Zoser, and is the step pyamid at Saqqarah. The architect was Imhotep, the first recorded architect in history.



The pyramids at Giza are the most well-known and largest of the remaining pyramids. They were built for Khufu (Cheops),. Chefren, and Mycerinus. The pyramid of Cheops is the largest, the pyramid of Chefren is connected to the Sphinx, and the pyramid of Mycerinus is the smallest.

Pyramid of Chefren

Still has its limestone casing, which was once painted and glistened in the sun. The Muslims plundered it to build mosques in the Middle Ages.

Great Sphinx

Geologists have noticed water erosion patterns on the sphinx, suggesting it is at least 5,000 years old, as this was the last time there was water in the Sahara region. The Sahara was not always a desert! Also, the sphinx does not perfectly resemble Chefren, but was perhaps already standing and modified to resemble his features.

The Great Pyramid of Cheops has a complex inner structure which has long puzzled those who study it. First, there are the ascending and descending passage ways.

The descending passageway leads into an unfinished pit; scholars have speculated that this passageway was either originally meant to be to burial chamber for the pharaoh, or it was meant to deceive potential plunderers.



The ascending passageway, or Grand Gallery, ends in the burial chamber. This chamber was never finished, and the sarcophogus is empty. We do not know what happened to the mummy of the pharaoh.

The stones that line the Grand Gallery are movable; some scholars have speculated that if observers were to sit in each niche during the course of an astronomical year, they could chart the movements of the heavens and so predict the annual flooding of the Nile. Also, the ceremony of the opening of the Pharaoh's mouth was performed when the constellation Orion was visible. The pyramids were also, then, astronomical observatories.

Some scholars have noted that both passageways were aligned with important stars during the time they were built. Some have suggested that the descending passageway was filled with water; someone sitting in a niche in the Grand Gallery could have looked down into the reflection of the srats aligned with the descining passageway, compared the measurements to the stars appearing through the ascending passageway, and so calculated the exat mathematical center of the pyramids and other astronomical facts.

The pyramids served the function of burial tombs, monuments to the pharoah, and astronomical observatories. They reflect the Egyptian emphasis on the afterlife, and their positive outlook on life and the afterlife."

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 17th, 2005, 3:11pm

fyi; here is a news report from the India news. Enjoy.

Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: [SSN] Re: Ufo news Iran from India news.


"People all around Iran's nuclear facilities keep seeing Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). Iranian Government keep classify them as American drones. The sightings are so often and common that Iranian Government recently took Russian help to track these UFOs.

US defense officials said Feb. 14 that they are not aware of any U.S. drone flights being conducted over Iran. A Feb. 13 news story had reported that the United States was carrying out such missions. A defense official at the Pentagon told Fox News that officials there are confused by the reports. US really does not need the drones in Iranian space since detailed satellite imagery is available to US.

Iranians found that these UFOs cannot be tracked, followed or harmed with the conventional contemporary technologies.! The bizarre crafts do not harm any one or any facilities. They just hover around a particular area and become invisible after some time.

A possible explanation to all these can be the fact that this is a classic disinformation from Iran to draw World's attention against Americans in the area.

But the description of these UFOs are coming out of common people in Iran and it is not easy for any Government create such a wide spread propaganda.

Also, Iranian Air Force has the necessary hardware to track. monitor and harm the drones. The Russian technologies would have definitely tracked and downed the drones. But these does not seem to be simple drones or crafts. "

What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Mar 4th, 2005, 08:26am

fyi; [this was received by me yesterday.]

On March 8th, 2000, Journalist and International Correspondent Paola Leopizzi Harris conducted this interview with Dr. Michael Wolf on behalf of the UFO Disclosure Group. Many thanks to Paola for this world wide exclusive - John Colaw, Director UFO Disclosure Group.

Paola: Michael, there is a growing consensus that the public is
being gradually conditioned for eventual disclosure of UFOs and Extra-Terrestrials. Do you think this is an accurate perception? Is the public ready for disclosure?

Michael: This will be true because the group that I am still advising is using the Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel to get people acclimated to the idea that "we are not alone". The Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel does not produce fiction. This is an accurate perception. It is all factual.

Paola: Is the public ready for it, in your opinion?

Michael: Some are. Some are not. The people who believe that they are the center of the Universe are never going to change their minds till one lands in their back yard, then they'll say that might be a Disney thing. The same people who don't believe in UFOs don't believe that man ever went to the moon.

Paola: Are the lawsuits by Peter Gersten of CAUS having an impact in the intelligence community?

Michael: Pardon me? No. They are not considered an important problem.

Paola: There have been increasing numbers of sightings of extremely large triangular craft, including Belgium, Phoenix and the recent reports from Illinois Police. What can you tell us about the origins of this triangular craft - what is its agenda, who is flying it?

Michael: Well, the very large ones are not being flown by humans. Maybe there are some triangular experimental craft, but they are not completely silent and we are miles..not miles away, but years away from recreating anti-gravity vehicles, to my knowledge. We are years away from duplicating UFOs, as far as I know. Some triangular vehicles...some of them are said to be like three football fields in length and width, and there is nothing to keep them up there. They are defying gravity.

Paola: What about Illinois? Have you heard about this?

Michael: They are coming from all over. The Phoenix lights were huge and that was a blatant cover-up. They said "Oh yes. We were putting up flares." Flares fall. These Phoenix lights do not fall. They put flares up to try to confuse people.

Paola: There is a division in the field of Ufology as to the alleged benevolence or hostile nature of ! ETs, which include implications that many violent abductions are staged Black Ops meant to propagate fear and suspicion against aliens. Do you concur regarding these violent abductions, and what is your opinion on the benevolent/hostile issue?

Michael: There are minimal negative abductions. John Mack's new book (Passport to the Cosmos) which I just received from him does point to a transformation of most abductees...as to multiple abductions by aliens alone.

And yes, there has been somewhat sloppy abductions by humans parading as aliens or "human-form aliens" wearing human uniforms; and yes, there is part of anti-alien forces that are trying to confuse people about abductions. Military abductions are not as widespread as a lot of people think.

Paola: Ok Now how would they do that? Are they cloned aliens or are they like holographic images?

Michael: They are more like holographic images. As a matter of fact, I know of several cases when they were able to put their arms and fingers through these so- called aliens and which weren't aliens and then occasionally they would see a uniform and a human. They made errors in the holographic program.

Paola: Mr. Colaw is asking your opinion on the benevolent /hostile issue.

Michael: Most are benevolent. Occasionally some get through the alien barrier, but they don't generally come back. They don't come back here once they are spotted and identified. Once they have hidden agendas, once they are identified they are barred from coming
here

Paola: Who does this? Do we do this? Do the benevolent aliens...?

Michael: Benevolent, (laugh)...they are not goodie, goodie.

But they don't want negative interference, for the most part. They (Negative ETs) might get through occasionally , and that is what anti-alien ufologists point out. But those are out of a myriad (meaning "many") races and they are few and far between, and I think John Mack is possibly one of the best experts on this subject.

I completely go along with him and he has read my book and he does agree completely with me. He is telling it the way it is. He does not interpret data. He collects massive amounts data. He says that these so-called "negative abductions" are 1/10th of one percent of all the rest of them. It's ones who misinterpret deliberately who have anti-alien agendas and (and we all know who they are) write in their books that they are robotic, and no gray is robotic, unless it
is a holographic projection by HUMANS. Next!

Paola: Can you expand on the dual nature of man, and how you see it relating to the Hopi prophecies regarding the fate of our planet for the year 2012?

Michael: I don't think we have anything to worry about. Gradually the whole world is going to know that we are not alone. There are two cable channels: The Discovery Channel and The Learning Channel, which never produce fiction. Discovery ..to discover the truth, and The Learning Channel to learn about it. They have been producing positive evidence of "alien intervention in human affairs to try to keep us away from such prophesies. Prophesies are not written in stone, they can be changed by man.

Paola: They can be changed by man?

Michael: Why do you think God gave "free will" rather than making us subjects of "one" reality. All the goodness has already been planted like trees and is sprouting...read the book (The Catchers of Heaven) and read the truth in it?

Paola: What about going into the "fifth world" as Native Americans believe...going from the "fourth world to the fifth". Is that just a world of enlightenment then?

Michael: It is more figurative..not literally a fifth world, I mean..we don't know even the fourth dimension. We can do the fourth dimension in math and physics. There are many dimension...at least eleven.

Paola: Are you still planning an appearance at the Star Knowledge
conference in Atlanta, Georgia this May 5th? If so - what will be the theme of your presentation there?

Michael: No. I am going to be very busy working on "enlightenment
programs" to let people know that most of the civilizations are just
passing through like tourists, and those who are interested, I'd say
the majority of those who are interested have plans for us that are "good" plans. They don't want us destroying ourselves. I'm working on "The Bright White Light Quartet". I am also ill.

Paola: We have heard that you are suffering from numerous maladies and complications. Do you have any requests for prayer and light in
that regards for those who support you?

Michael: I've already receiving it and I am very grateful Don't forget for 48 years from the age of ten, I have been exposed to toxic substances. That was part of my work and just like those who, that group in area 51, wants a class action law suit who have suffered working on "black programs " and so did I.

Paola: Well. That's pretty clear.

Michael: That's as clear as you're going to get.

http://www.ufodisclosure.com/drwolf.html






Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Mar 4th, 2005, 08:32am

That is a very interesting post timetraveler. I will have to come back and reread it when I get home from work this afternoon. There is a lot of info there and scanning quickly wouldn't do it justiice. I will check back later this evening.
Thanks for posting it.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Mar 4th, 2005, 09:51am

QUOTE=timetraveler
"Paola: Michael, there is a growing consensus that the public is being gradually conditioned for eventual disclosure of UFOs and Extra-Terrestrials. Do you think this is an accurate perception? Is the public ready for disclosure?

Michael: This will be true because the group that I am still advising is using the Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel to get people acclimated to the idea that "we are not alone". The Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel does not produce fiction. This is an accurate perception. It is all factual."

This is so true. I've seen this happening for a very long time now.

Great post timetraveler. I sure enjoyed it.

oljack666
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Mar 4th, 2005, 12:07pm

With the frequency and nature of recent shows..... it does seem likely to me .

We may have an interesting few years ahead wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Mar 4th, 2005, 5:16pm

I am indeed looking forward to whatever tidbits are revealed each year. It is interesting to see all of these reports coming out, and I am axious to see where it takes us.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Mar 5th, 2005, 5:53pm

I believe that some major events will lead to much relevation in our lifetime ----- some relating to the paramormal and some relating to prophetic revelation wink

Both will be witnessed by millions and change things as we know them (4 the better, I believe)

More news 2 follow smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 18th, 2005, 6:11pm

This was received recently from one of my Correspondents;

Dear Irwyn,

When I glanced through this, my first thought was that this is like karmic repeat of Atlantis trying to happen; destroy the Ascension and rise of the people, by detroying Atlantis; like they are trying to play out the same scenario, or memory pattern.
Just like they tried to play out using nuclear weapons like was first done with what we call the "Arc and Covenant" back when the Sumerians first colonized Earth and played their war games and used the "Weapons of Terror" (again, the timing of use of "terrorism" here). The "gods" had agreed to not involve the humans but Marduk made a "power play" by going against the agreement and using the "Weapons of Terror".

The GF have disabled all Weapons of Terror and they are not going to be allowed to destroy the Earth as She has decided to Ascend, and that bought GF here to help Her. Lately they are allowed to intervene directly on our behalf, and as some humans have stepped up to the plate, they are introduced to their technology and have ships at their disposal as well as being trained with new powers. THis will be coming for more and more of us as we step up to the plate too, and then by momentum, all humanity, as it is forseen now.

It could be expected for some to make last-ditch efforts in "power-plays" not willing to give it up and get on with the real ride coming...

Just some thoughts. I was wondering if you have more information on what was happening in Atlantis at the time of the "fall"... I know they didn't get to ascend. According to St. Germaine, this is the 3rd time for Earth to try and ascend and they (GF) forsee Victory at this time because more humans are making it possible for them (GF) to move forward in relationship and alliance with us. When NESARA is announced, there will probably be NO humans that can sit in governance for the first 90-120 days - they will probably be all GF, even if disguised as humans. We will go into Galatic Law. Whatever they will be calling it upon Announcement -- we are going to make it this time.

Blessings,
Larraine



Ed <anon5135@netscape.net> wrote:

April 13, 2005

Thousands of Missiles Fired by both Russian and United States Military Forces over Earths Arctic Regions as Large Cosmic Blasts Continue Hitting Planet

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

Strange reports have reached us today from our Arctic Regions describing thousands of missile launches from both Russian and American military forces, and from both land based and aircraft launched these missiles that are being directed out of the earth's atmosphere into the outer space regions of our planets atmosphere.

From various news services however there is being reported that Russia and the United States are conducting Missile Defense Wargames, and as we can read as reported by the Moscow Times News Service in their article titled "Russia, U.S. Launch Joint Missile Defence Wargames",
and which says, "Russia and the United States have begun joint missile
defence wargames aimed at protecting vital installations in a third
country in the course of future international operations, a Russian
Defence Ministry release said Monday. The wargames will last until
April 23.

According to the Russian Defence Ministry, the 4th Central Research
Institute of the Ministry in Moscow is hosting the joint theater-wide
ballistic missile defence (BMD) command-post exercise (CPX)."

The strangeness to these missile launches is further compounded by the
reporting of these events as being a part of defense wargame between
Russia and the United States, and of which no one has had any prior
knowledge of. Neither was there any announcement to the Russian peoples by the Defense Ministry prior to these launches, only afterwards when reports began to be received from these Arctic Regions has the Defense Ministry issued these reports of wargames.

These reports are also coming at a time that the earth's atmosphere is
continuing to be bombarded by unknown cosmic blasts, and Western scientists are beginning to agree with our Russian scientists as to the seriousness of these blasts, and as we can read as reported by the BBC News Service in their article titled "Ray burst is extinction suspect", and which says, "A gamma ray burst could have caused the Ordovician extinction, killing 60% of marine invertebrates at a time when life was largely confined to the sea. These cosmic blasts are the most powerful explosions in the Universe. The scientists think a 10-second burst near Earth could deplete up to half of the planet's ozone layer."

I had previously stated in my March 3ed report, titled "Earth's Magnetic Field and Ozone Layer Nearing Total Collapse as Massive Unknown Energy Surges Continue Hitting Planet", that:
"To such an extent of damage to our planet being caused by these mysterious energy blasts, even the earth's protective layer of ozone is being effected, and as I had previously reported in my report of January 4, 2005, and titled, "Western World Sleeps as Global Cataclysms Approach", and had said, "Where in past times ozone layer depletion was rightly ascribed to cosmic rays (gamma rays), Western scientists have with their reworked mathematics created a whole new methodology that blames these depletions on CFC's (chlorofluorocarbons), and which even first term Russian school child would laugh about if this were not so serious an event."

But to these lies of the earths ozone layer being destroyed by any work of human beings even these Western scientists could longer deny, and as we can read from this report from the American scientific website, LiveScience, in their article titled, "Sun's Temper Blamed for Arctic Ozone Loss", and which says;

"A dramatic thinning of Earth! 's protective ozone layer above the Arctic last year was the result of intense upper-level winds and an extra dose of space weather, scientists said Tuesday. Ozone, which screens out some of the Sun's harmful ultraviolet radiation, declined by up to 60 percent in the stratosphere over high northern latitudes in the spring of 2004. Officials issued a health warning earlier this year for residents of the far North.

In a new study, scientists conclude that an intense round of solar storms around Halloween in 2003 was at the root of the problem. Charged particles from the storms triggered chemical reactions that increased the formation of extra nitrogen in the upper stratosphere, some 20 miles up. Nitrogen levels climbed to their highest in at least two decades."

But not to the blaming of the sun are these events to be placed, but to their rightful cause, these continuing series of energy blasts hitting our world. From the studi! es conducted in Russia in 2000, many Russian scientists believe that a major failure of the earth's magnetic field and ozone layer in its entirety could occur too.

Even the prestigious National Geographic organization has realized this, and as reported in an article of theirs titled, "Earth's Magnetic Field Is Fading", they have said, "Earth's magnetic field is fading. Today it is about 10 percent weaker than it was when German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss started keeping tabs on it in 1845, scientists say. If the trend continues, the field may collapse altogether and then reverse. Compasses would point south instead of north."

Even today reports have reached us from the Southern Hemisphere Regions of our planet that once again strange fog sightings are once again occurring, and as we can read in this report from New Zealand's NZPA News Service in their article titled "Fog closes Wellington, Christchurch airports", and! which says, "Fog closed Christchurch and Wellington airports yesterday disrupting the plans of thousands of travellers. In a replay of disruptions in February and March, the fog rolled into Wellington airport shortly after 4pm, duty manager Park Erueti said. Conditions had previously been clear and sunny. "It just came in within 10 minutes...I can't even see the other side of the runway." Persistent fog closed the airport for five consecutive days in February. The situation was repeated in March, when fog disrupted flights for six days in a week, interrupting the travel plans of more than 40,000 people."

To all atmospheric scientists it is known well that the visible signs of these large cosmic blasts are these large and mysterious appearances of these large fog banks, and as reported to the International Commission on Atmospheric Electricity (ICAE) by the Polish scientific team of Marek Kubicki, Stanisaw Michnowski, Stanisaw Warzecha, and as reported in their research paper titled "Long term variations of some atmospheric electricity, aerosol, and extra terrestrial elements at Swider Observatory, Poland", and which says:

"The very high correlation between long term variations of atmospheric
electricity elements and corresponding changes of cosmic ray and solar
activity changes show on of extra terrestrial influences on the lower
atmosphere."

Today the missiles of both Russia and the United States continue to be
fired in the Arctic Regions. Today the world is still being hit with
unknown energy surges of great power. Today the world's weather systems remain in chaos. Whatever the final outcome of these events will be, it is well known that our tomorrows will no longer be like our yesterdays.

© April 13, 2005, EU and US all rights reserved.

[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors to protect their safety.]
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index719.htm

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Apr 18th, 2005, 8:49pm

Hate to be a bearer of bad news but I am researching something right now that is showing me that the necessary equipment (chip) needed to protect military from nuclear disarmament in respect to EMP's (electomagnetic pulses) and EMF's (electromagnetic fields) are in the hands of the U.S. as we speak.

Somebody (?) using EMP's and EMF's were doing so and once very much capable of disarming nuclear warheads. We both know who that was.

Now what?

oljack666
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2005, 5:16pm

Unpublished work ©2005 Irwyn Staunton Greif

Exodus

This Planet is engaged in a gigantic rescue operation. This is not the first time that the life forms on this Planet have had to be preserved from destruction. Millions of years ago during the "Ice Age" catastrophe the UFOs had to evacuate life forms from this Planet . This was necessary to eliminate the dinosaur species because they would pose too much of a threat to the Human race “experiment”.
In the second Exodus living creatures were removed from this Planet by UFOs as a result of the destruction of Atlantis. In the third Exodus biblical records document the removal of life forms from our Planet in the time of the "Great Flood". [I do not believe that life was exited in a giant rowboat. I believe that living creatures were exited by UFOs.]
So we have been there before.
The first Exodus involved the destruction of Life by ice and freezing . The second Exodus involved the destruction of Life by radiation and the wobbling of this Planet due to an unstable orbit.The third Exodus involved the destruction of Life by water.
The UFOs are on "standby" for a possible fourth Exodus.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2005, 5:24pm

I believe that I was an eyewitness to the destruction of Atlantis.

This Planet has been visited many times by ET's from other Worlds and other Dimensions who have done experimentation on the lifeforms. I am submitting an excerpt from my book regarding a flashback that I had of one of my past lives.
A unique experience happened to me in 1958. I was meditating when I "saw" a flashback visualization, and I "knew" that this was a flashback of 150,000 years ago.
I saw myself walking along the top of a gigantic sea wall, which I "knew" was the Atlantis sea wall. I was about five feet seven inches tall, my chest was bare and completely hairless, my hair was black, and my skin was an abnormally white color like alabaster, not tanned or apparently affected by the Sun's rays. Around my neck I wore a "magnesium" type disk that was five inches in diameter. The disk was engraved with a picture of twin mountain peaks, and a star was positioned directly above. These were the Twin Peaks of Poseid, and the star represented Polaris.
I saw myself walking along a road. Farther down this road a group of Humans were beginning to gather, with the apparent intention of attacking me. I realized the danger, and I touched the metal disk with my left hand while I stretched forth my right hand in a straight line, pointing it at a tree that overhung the road where the group was forming.
At that instant a charge of electricity, like a lightning bolt, shot out from my right arm, and the tree split in two and burst into flames. The group became frightened and took flight.
I was aware that I was an alien creature and that I was witnessing a scene in Atlantis. I "knew" that I had landed from a spaceship with thirty-nine other Beings like myself and that we came from Orion.
We were space scientists, and we had come to Atlantis to perform experiments with life forms and nature and to study the natural laws that governed the Earth. I also "realized" that we were probably the basis for the fable of" Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves."
The leader of our group was named for his home base which was the star Regulus. He stayed constantly in the laboratory that we had constructed on top of one of the Twin Peaks of Poseid.
He was the only one of our group who could withstand the deadly radiation that was present in this laboratory from the radioactive energy stones, which were chunks of cobalt kept in the laboratory to supply the energy stored in our disks, which was necessary for our life support and sustenance.
We were not humans, and our bodies were artificially created. We were similar to androids, and we had no blood and no pulse except for an electrical field radiation. We needed no food or water to sustain us. Our sustenance was directly transmitted by the disks, which we wore around our necks and which were charged from the energy stored in the "hot stones" in the lab.
Whenever we needed more energy, we would levitate up to the mountain lab and Regulus would place our disk among the "hot stones" until it had absorbed enough energy.
The Atlantean race was the most intelligent race that lived on Earth at that time, and they derived their sustenance from the fish and kelp found in the ocean. They had a thick bone forehead and a strong bridge on their nose as well as valves built into their nostrils, which enabled them to dive to great depths and to control their breath. They also had an abnormally large lung capacity and could store a great amount of oxygen in their lungs for undersea exploration. Their descendants of today are the Hawaiians and the Polynesians.
There were two other races that existed at that same time in this area. The Atlans were farmers who acquired their food by scratching in the ground with their crude implements to grow crops. They had a very low intelligence and were animalistic in their nature.
The third group were the Tritons, or the Creatures of the Sea, measuring eight feet tall and covered with a thick rubber like skin. Their hands and feet were webbed, and although they were mammals, they could exist for long periods of time underneath the water.
The Tritons were the only creatures who could effectively resist our energy force rays due to their insulating-type skin. They were a menace to us because they would frequently surface near members of our group unexpectedly and "playfully" crush the member to death in a bear hug. We constructed the Atlantis sea wall to keep them out.
Atlantis, as far as I could determine in this "flashback," was part of a gigantic land mass that existed between what is now South America and Florida and occupied a large area of the Atlantic Ocean. Poseid, where we had our laboratory, would probably be close to where the island of Bimini is at the present time.
As a genetic engineer, I was involved with my team of scientists in subjecting the Atlans to experimentation by using crystal light devices to alter their genetic structure. Although our intention was to create a hybrid race combining the best qualities of man and animal, we created mutant monstrosities of man and beast and fish and bird.
Other teams of our scientists were conducting experiments to control and alter the weather conditions of the Earth and to change the magnetic balance of the Earth's gravity field. Regulus and I and some other scientists in our expedition were opposed to these weather experiments as we feared that these experiments could destroy the Planet.
At this time there were severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as well as fierce weather storms. These bore evidence to us that the weather experiments were becoming dangerous to the Earth's gravitational field stability.
I received a telepathic message, which I believed came from Regulus, to return to the laboratory to prepare for an evacuation. The preparation involved allowing myself to be put into a deep state of suspended animation for the voyage in our spaceship and then to be awakened and revitalized when the journey was completed.
I proceeded to the laboratory, which required me to levitate myself up the sheer side of the mountain. When I arrived I was seized by some of my fellow Space scientists who had been assigned to conduct weather experiments.
I was informed that our group leader, Regulus, had been destroyed by those opposing him and that the insurgents had decided to eliminate any witnesses who could testify that they had done experiments on the Earth's magnetic fields in order to enslave the Planet and its inhabitants.
I was loyal to Regulus, and I refused to join the rebels. As a result my energy disk was removed and I was transported to an isolated desert area far away from the laboratory where I was left to die. While at this remote place, I saw the spaceships of our people coming to pick up the survivors of our group and although I tried to signal them, I was not noticed.
As time passed I witnessed tremendous disturbances in the Earth's magnetic field, and I became aware of a great deal of radiation present. The eventual destruction of Atlantis was caused by the improper tuning of the crystal light machines used in the weather-control experiments.
In the end I saw a large section of the land mass that was Atlantis tom from the Earth and projected with tremendous force into the sky. I "realized" that this huge mass of land would become the Moon, formed from the land mass and debris involved in the great destruction of Atlantis.
I also "knew" that the Earth at that time tilted approximately seven to ten degrees off its normal axis and was wobbling in an erratic and dangerous manner.
In time I came to understand that the Moon was created. to balance and stabilize the wobbling planet Earth so it would not be tom apart and destroyed.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2005, 5:32pm

In the 1970s I was involved in a meeting with scientists and psychics with the "Bio-energetic Institute" in New York City and the "Silva Mind Control Institute". The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were in the power. As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic named Ingo Swann who was asked to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival. Then he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my laser weapons at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies. At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me," stop doing what you're doing, your face is turning purple".

I have since realized that I reacted to Ingo Swann in this way because my collective consciousness recognized him as one of the scientists who had betrayed our mission at Atlantis and caused my death. Ingo Swann declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in project Stargate.
I told the director who was Dr.Pierrocus that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him. It seems as if we each have a collective consciousness that follows us as we reincarnate.


These bioenergetics and Silva mind control experiments were done in the UN building using their television equipment. We were able to record on video, magnetic and electrical emmanations transmitted by psychics when they were "in the power" on videotapes. However we were not supposed to be doing these experiments in the UN building and to continue our work we listed our experiments as meditation groups.

This allowed the Russians to attend our experimental sessions. We were successful but our work was dealt a severe blow when our best videotapes were stolen by the KGB and sent back to Russia to add to their psychic research.

What you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 25th, 2005, 10:12pm

The pieces are now in place. The governments of the World are ruled by evil kings. the final piece has just been set on the board, the evil Pope. Now the Earth is ruled by the Dragon race. We are in the "last days".

It was prophesized in the bible:[REVELATION 13:1, 11]

"AND I STOOD UPON THE SAND OF THE SEA, AND I SAW A BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA, HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS, AND UPON HIS HORNS TEN CROWNS...AND I BEHELD ANOTHER BEAST COMING UP OUT OF THE EARTH; AND HE HAD TWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB, AND HE SPAKE AS A DRAGON."

[notice the Dragon reference]

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Apr 28th, 2005, 12:08pm

on Apr 25th, 2005, 10:12pm, timetraveler wrote:
The pieces are now in place. The governments of the World are ruled by evil kings. the final piece has just been set on the board, the evil Pope. Now the Earth is ruled by the Dragon race. We are in the "last days".

It was prophesized in the bible:[REVELATION 13:1, 11]

"AND I STOOD UPON THE SAND OF THE SEA, AND I SAW A BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA, HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS, AND UPON HIS HORNS TEN CROWNS...AND I BEHELD ANOTHER BEAST COMING UP OUT OF THE EARTH; AND HE HAD TWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB, AND HE SPAKE AS A DRAGON."

[notice the Dragon reference]

What do you think? Irwyn



why do you believe this pope to be evil ?

diamond
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by eagleyeuk on Apr 28th, 2005, 1:10pm

This pope is certainly not to be feared--- the evil ones are not within the vatican as the god force present in rome location becomes intorable to evil believe me, but the fear of humans thoughts multiplies in the outer eather and is reflected back upon ourselves this is also food for non- benevolent brothers rember every thought form is a living entity in itself negative attracts like for like--- positive as in current will repell the negative source are thoughts must be to not to interpritate in all that we read even if it is the bible in concidering that all is nigh in 2006
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Apr 28th, 2005, 1:54pm

True....... accoding to the BIBLE CODE !! , 2006 will be a pivotal year in biblical prophecies coming to pass. Given the past accuracy, we are in for a helluva ride. shocked
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 29th, 2005, 5:50pm

Eagleyeuk; it is very difficult for me to express my thoughts and my psychic information. Many persons interpret what I say as attacks on religion. This is not so. The previous pope was good and his deeds are witness to his goodness.
Do not be blinded by blind faith. The history of the Vatican reads like a chronology of the Mafia. Several popes were murdered because they interfered with the politics of a cadre of Cardinals. There has been much dirty business conducted behind the sanctity of the Vatican. Do some research.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Apr 29th, 2005, 6:05pm

Quote:
"The history of the Vatican reads like a chronology of the Mafia. Several popes were murdered because they interfered with the politics of a cadre of Cardinals. There has been much dirty business conducted behind the sanctity of the Vatican."


That is exactly what it is, history. The past, not the present or the future. As a people, we've all grown up considerably since such incidents as mentioned above.

oljack
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 29th, 2005, 6:23pm

Diamond, this Pope is known to be very rigid in his beliefs and ideology and it is my psychic feeling that he represents an old way of thinking that will not benefit the church but rather harm it. Instead of updating the church to the modern times I believe he will set the church back to the dark ages. Time will tell.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 29th, 2005, 6:28pm

FYI;

Meteor shower sparks flurry of calls to police
| Monday, April 25, 2005 Posted: 9:44 AM EDT (1344 GMT)
|
| BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- A meteor shower Sunday night
sparked a flurry of frantic phone calls to police departments across New
England from people who saw bright lights moving in the sky, a spokeswoman
for the Federal Aviation Administration said.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by duneguy on Apr 29th, 2005, 7:29pm

This Pope has been a traditionalist ----- yet high positions have been known to change a leader's perspective.....

We have seen examples of this change in Presidents, Supreme Court Justices etc......

Time will tell wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Apr 29th, 2005, 8:23pm

As stated "time will tell." Only time. I know that the catholic church has some horrible stories in it's history, however, history also shows many other groups both religious and non-religious have done horrible things in the name of their beliefs. The reality is greed and powermongereing are the name of the game, but don't judge all by the actions of a few. For as many bad that walk the halls of the vatican and many other sacred and high places, there a also many good. The good are not without power to make changes. The good also have the power to influence some of those in high places. I truly believe the good can set the course for the future. I refuse to give in to prophecies of doom and have my hands and my mind tied down by it.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Apr 30th, 2005, 4:03pm

on Apr 29th, 2005, 6:05pm, oljack wrote:
That is exactly what it is, history. The past, not the present or the future. As a people, we've all grown up considerably since such incidents as mentioned above.

oljack


grown up? oljack . give me a break. 9/11, the war on terror, known unknowns , rwanda , oil for food, nth korea, china vs taiwan chechnya. to name a few recent things . nothing has changed . the bullies still bully and the status quo remains the same. until we wake up and see that the military and corporate world are hand in hand at deciding what will be in this world we have no hope of growing up. world hunger and poverty and the other things that cause terrorism could be solved tomorrow if the interested parties could change their ways.the greed of the western world will eventually be it's undoing unless all military spending and a large share of corporate profits are funnelled into repairing what centuries of neglect have caused.
the bottom line is that until the poorest starving child in africa or asia has the same opportunities as you and i , and is lifted from poverty to equality, we have no right to say we have grown up.
the late great john lennon asked us in his song to "imagine" . we the free rich countries of the world have the obligation to make those words come true , will we? i could go on and on but you all know where i'm coming from( i hope )


diamond

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 30th, 2005, 4:15pm

Did you read The DaVinci Code? It describes Agnus Dei--a Vatican group of murderers.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Apr 30th, 2005, 5:43pm

on Apr 30th, 2005, 4:03pm, diamond wrote:
grown up? oljack . give me a break. 9/11, the war on terror, known unknowns , rwanda , oil for food, nth korea, china vs taiwan chechnya. to name a few recent things . nothing has changed . the bullies still bully and the status quo remains the same. until we wake up and see that the military and corporate world are hand in hand at deciding what will be in this world we have no hope of growing up. world hunger and poverty and the other things that cause terrorism could be solved tomorrow if the interested parties could change their ways.the greed of the western world will eventually be it's undoing unless all military spending and a large share of corporate profits are funnelled into repairing what centuries of neglect have caused.
the bottom line is that until the poorest starving child in africa or asia has the same opportunities as you and i , and is lifted from poverty to equality, we have no right to say we have grown up.
the late great john lennon asked us in his song to "imagine" . we the free rich countries of the world have the obligation to make those words come true , will we? i could go on and on but you all know where i'm coming from( i hope )diamond


Diamond: You read my post wrong since it was in response to the quote sitting above my post, which was about the pope in the vatican and had nothing to do with other worldly views - just the church. In other words the church is not a hitman in this century.

Quote:
"The history of the Vatican reads like a chronology of the Mafia. Several popes were murdered because they interfered with the politics of a cadre of Cardinals. There has been much dirty business conducted behind the sanctity of the Vatican."


That is exactly what it is, history. The past, not the present or the future. As a people, we've all grown up considerably since such incidents as mentioned above.

oljack
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 30th, 2005, 6:52pm

I wish to share some thoughts with you on a more uplifting note;

Unpublished work ©2005 Irwyn Staunton Greif

Angels

I have had many visitations and visions of Angels. Sometimes Angels have come to me not in any humanoid form but as beautiful blue color lights of pure living energy. This blue light would register on my “psychic eye” vision and remain for a few seconds and then dissipate.
One time when I was writing on a sheet of white paper in my office I saw a microscopic spark of brilliant white light that was so bright that it turned the white sheet of paper black.
I "knew" that this microscopic spark of white light was an Angel and I also realized at that time that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel Sparks of white light and each one of them would maintain their own separate identity.
The sighting of an Angel is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations. I have been taught that the same Angel who comes to a religious Catholic as the Virgin Mary will come to the religious Jew as Moses, etc. etc.
I believe that Angels cannot be seen in their true state of being because of their high voltage and high frequency therefore they take shapes and forms convenient to the eyes of the beholder. Angels do not have wings or resemble in any way the commonly accepted depictions.
Persons who have reported seeing Angels, including biblical accounts did not see the actual true Angels. They saw representations of their own mental and religious expectations and beliefs. Let me illustrate my statements.
In that famous story of the school children who were locked in the school building by a crazy bomber and his girlfriend. Before the bomb was exploded the children saw Angels who looked like the mother image or the female teacher image and then these Angels protected the children from harm and death. This was the representation form that the Angels chose to take based on the expectations of the children.

What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on May 1st, 2005, 11:47am

entirely logical, as the last thing an angel would want to do is scare whoever they were protecting. i also believe that angels may be responsible for alerting our so called sixth sense of danger and subconciously guiding us through traumatic events.i've always had the feeling that someone or something is watching over me as i have survived several incidents in which i should have lost my life . and as silly as it may sound , i sometimes talk to them out loud (and in my head)when i'm alone or feeling down and feel a certain comfort knowing that although they do not answer in a physical way , they hear me and understand. we are never truly alone , of this i am certain.

i suppose a quack would have me certified for such a confession rolleyes, but i'm comfortable with it . wink anybody else get the same feelings

oljack, wasn't there some doubt caste over the demise of john paul 1?

diamond cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by eagleyeuk on May 1st, 2005, 11:50am

TIMETRAVELLER why do you have problems expressing your thoughs and interpreting your physic messages i should keep of the drink to clear your mind and get better messages, ok i not a catholic and not interested in vatican politics or hearsay from times gone, but time is moving on and because new stages of enlightenment will be forth coming as a time traveller you can surely see this, with respect you tardis
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 7th, 2005, 1:29pm

To eagle, I do not know where you are coming from, but I do not want to go there. I do not feel that I have to defend my beliefs or my psychic messages. As I've stated previously I have been a psychic all of my 75 years and many of my postings are excerpts from my book. "To each his own". Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by queenofhearts on May 7th, 2005, 7:44pm

Quote:
i should keep of the drink to clear your mind and get better messages


you sure do like to instigate things dont you eagle?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on May 7th, 2005, 10:15pm

on May 1st, 2005, 11:47am, diamond wrote:
entirely logical, as the last thing an angel would want to do is scare whoever they were protecting. i also believe that angels may be responsible for alerting our so called sixth sense of danger and subconciously guiding us through traumatic events.i've always had the feeling that someone or something is watching over me as i have survived several incidents in which i should have lost my life . and as silly as it may sound , i sometimes talk to them out loud (and in my head)when i'm alone or feeling down and feel a certain comfort knowing that although they do not answer in a physical way , they hear me and understand. we are never truly alone , of this i am certain.

i suppose a quack would have me certified for such a confession rolleyes, but i'm comfortable with it . wink anybody else get the same feelings

oljack, wasn't there some doubt caste over the demise of john paul 1?

diamond cool


diamond, I have exactly the same feelings and also am certain of someone or something right there watching over me. I also communicate in response to that feeling, using my thoghts of course. (If I were speaking out loud all the time, the boys in white coats wuld have come by now.)
And I too am certain, we are never really alone. In fact every night, I ask for guardians to watch over each of my children in whatever they are doing. I also tell my children that they are never really alone. I think this is important for them to know so they don't have to be fearful.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 19th, 2005, 3:21pm

on Feb 8th, 2005, 6:10pm, timetraveler wrote:
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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2005, 4:20pm

fyi, this was received by me in an e-maillaughart1;

Forwarded Message ----------
Read the original in Russian
http://science.pravda.ru/science/2004/6/79/308/16265_MARSIANIN.html


RUSSIAN BOY FROM MARS

FYI... "His intellect was obviously far from that of a typical 7-
year-old. Not every professor is capable of narrating the entire
history of Lemuria and Lemurians and its inhabitants in such
details."

"No one has ever taught him that," recalls Nadya. "But sometimes, he
would sit in a lotus position and start all these talks. He would
talk about Mars, about planetary systems, distant civilizations. We
couldn't believe our own ears. How can a kid know all this? Cosmos,
neverending stories of other worlds and the immense skies, are like
daily mantras for him since he was 2."

Boriska - The Russian Boy From Mars

Pravda.ru - 4-17-5

Sometimes children are born with quite fascinating talents, unusual
abilities. I was told the story of an unusual boy named Boriska from
members of an expedition to the anomaly zone located in the north of
the Volgograd region, most commonly referred to as "Medvedetskaya
gryada". "Can you imagine, while everyone was sitting around the
campfire at night, some little boy (about 7 years of age) suddenly
asked everyone's attention. Turned out, he wanted to tell them all
about life on Mars, about its inhabitants and their flights to
earth," shares one of the witnesses. Silence followed. It was
incredible! The little boy with gigantic lively eyes was about to
tell a magnificent story about the Martian civilization, about
megalithic cities, their spaceships and flights to various planets,
about a wonderful country Lemuria, life of which he knew in details
since he happened to descend there from Mars, had friends there.

Logs were cracking, night's fog enveloped the area and the immense
dark sky with myriads of brightly lit stars seemed to conceal some
sort of a mystery. His story lasted for about an hour and a half.
One guy was smart enough to tape the entire narration.

Many were stunned by the two distinctive factors. First of all, the
boy possessed exceptionally profound knowledge. His intellect was
obviously far from that of a typical 7-year-old. Not every professor
is capable of narrating the entire history of Lemuria and Lemurians
and its inhabitants in such details. You will be unable to find any
mentioning of this country in school textbooks. Modern science has
not yet proved existence of other civilizations.

Second of all, we were all amazed by the actual speech of this young
boy. It was far from the kind kids his age usually use. His
knowledge of specific terminology, details and facts from Mars' and
Earth's past fascinated everyone.

"Why did he start the conversation in the first place," said my
interlocutor. "Perhaps, he was simply touched by the overall
atmosphere of our camp with many knowledgeable and open-minded
people," continued he.

"Could he make this all up?"

"Doubtful", objected my friend". "To me this looks more like the boy
was sharing his personal memories from past births. It is virtually
impossible to make up such stories; one really had to know them."

Today, after meeting with Boris' parents and getting to know the boy
better, I begin to carefully sort out all the information obtained
around that campfire. He was born in Volzhskii town in a suburban
hospital, even though officially, based on the paperwork, his
birthplace is the town of Zhirnovsk of Volgograd region. His
birthday is January 11th, 1996. (Perhaps it will be helpful for
astrologers).

His parents seem to be wonderful people. Nadezhda, Boriska's mother,
is a dermatologist in a public clinic. She graduated from Volgograd
medical institute not so long ago in 1991. The boy's father is a
retired officer. Both of them would be happy if someone could shed
the light onto the mystery behind their child. In the meantime, they
simply observe him and watch him grow.

"After Boriska was born, I noticed he was able to hold his head in
15 days, recalls Nadezhda. His first word "baba" he uttered when he
was 4 months old and very soon afterward started talking. At age 7
months, he constructed his first sentence, 'I want a nail.' He said
this particular phrase after noticing a nail stuck in the wall. Most
notably, his intellectual abilities surpassed his physical ones."

How did those abilities manifest themselves? "When Boris was just
one year old, I started giving him letters (based on the Nikitin's
system) and guess what, at 1,5 he was able to read large newspaper
print. It didn't take long for him to get acquainted with colors and
their shades. He began to paint at 2.

"Then, soon after he turned 2, we took him to the childrens' day
care center. Teachers were all stunned by his talents and his
unusual way of thinking. The boy possesses exceptional memory and an
unbelievable ability to grasp new information. However, his parents
soon noticed that their child had been acquiring information in his
own unique way, from someplace else." "No one has ever taught him
that," recalls Nadya. "But sometimes, he would sit in a lotus
position and start all these talks. He would talk about Mars, about
planetary systems, distant civilizations. We couldn't believe our
own ears. How can a kid know all this? Cosmos, neverending stories
of other worlds and the immense skies, are like daily mantras for
him since he was 2."


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 26th, 2005, 4:21pm

part2;

"It was then that Boriska told us about his previous life on Mars,
about the fact that the planet was, in fact, inhabited, but as a
result of the most powerful and destructive catastrophe had lost its
atmosphere and that nowadays all its inhabitants have to live in
underground cities. Back then, he used to fly to earth quite often
for trade and other research purposes. It seems that Boriska piloted
his spaceship himself. This was during the times of the Lemurian
civilizations. He had a Lemurian friend who had been killed right
before his own eyes."

"A major catastrophe took place on earth. A gigantic continent was
consumed by stormy waters. Then suddenly, a massive rock fell on a
construction by his friend who was there, tells Boriska.

"I could not save him. We are destined to meet sometime in this
life."

The boy envisions the entire picture of the fall of Lemuria as
though it happened yesterday. He grieves over the death of his best
friend as though it was his fault.

One day, he noticed a book in his mother's bag entitled "Where do we
come from?" by Ernst Muldashev. One should have seen the kind of
happiness and fascination this discovery triggered in the little
boy. He's been flipping through pages for hours, looking at sketches
of Lemurians, photos of Tibet. He then started talking about high
intellect of the Lemurians.

"But Lemuria ceased to exist minimum 800,000 years ago," I uttered
in response to his statements. "Lemurians were 9 meters tall! Is
that so? How can you remember all this?"

"I do remember," replied the boy. Later, he began recalling another
book by Muldashev entitled "In Search of the City of Gods." The book
is mainly devoted to ancient tombs and pyramids. Boriska firmly
stated that people will find knowledge under one of the pyramids
(not the pyramid of Cheops). It hasn't been discovered yet. "Life
will change once the Sphinx will be opened," said he and added that
the great Sphinx has an opening mechanism somewhere behind his ear
(but he does not remember where exactly). The boy also talks with
great passion and enthusiasm about the Mayan civilization. According
to him, we know very little about this great civilization and its
people.

Most interestingly, Boriska thinks that nowadays the time has
finally come for the "special ones" to be born on earth. "The
planet's rebirth is approaching. New knowledge will be in great
demand, a different mentality of earthlings."

"How do you know about these gifted kids and why this is happening?
Are you aware that they are called 'indigo' kids?"

"I know that they are being born. However, I haven't met anyone in
my town yet. Perhaps may be this one girl named Yulia Petrova. She
is the only one who believes me. Others simply laugh at my stories.
Something is going to happen on earth; that is why these kids are of
importance. They will be able to help people. The Poles will shift.
The first major catastrophe with one of the continents will happen
in 2009. Next one will take place in 2013; it will be even more
devastating."

"Aren't you scared that your life may also going to end as a result
of that catastrophe?" "No. I'm not afraid. I have lived through one
catastrophe on Mars already. There still live people like us out
there. But after the nuclear war, everything has burnt down. Some of
those people managed to survive. They built shelters, new weaponry.
There was also a shift of continents there, although the continent
was not as large. Martians breathe gas. In case they arrived to our
planet, they would have been all standing next to pipes and
breathing in fumes."

"Do you prefer breathing oxygen?" "Once you are in this body, you
have to breathe oxygen. However, Martians dislike this air, earth's
air, because it causes aging. Martians are all relatively young,
about 30-35 years old. The amount of such Martian children will
increase annually."

"Boris, why do our space probes often disappear or fail before they
reach Mars?" "Mars transmits special signals aimed at destroying
them. Those mission contain harmful radiation." (Plutonium-powered
probes?)

"I was amazed by his knowledge of this sort of radiation. This is
absolutely true. Back in 1988, resident of Volzhsky, Yuri
Lushnichenko, a man with extrasensory powers attempted to warn
Soviet leaders about the inevitable crash of the first Soviet Mars
missions "Fobos 1" and "Fobos 2". He also mentioned this sort of
an 'unfamiliar' and harmful radiation for the planet. Obviously, no
one believed him then."

"What do you know about multiple dimensions? Do you know that one
must fly not on straight trajectories, but maneuvering through the
multi-dimensional space?"

Boriska immediately rose to his feet and started to pour all the
facts about UFOs. "We took off and landed on Earth almost
momentarily!" The boy takes a chalk and begins drawing an oval
object on a blackboard. "It consists of six layers," he says. 25%--
outer layer, made of durable metal, 30%--second layer made of
something similar to rubber, the third layer comprises 30%--once
again metal. The final 4% is composed of a special magnetic layer.
If we charge this magnetic layer with energy, those machines will be
able to fly anywhere in the Universe."

Does Boriska have a special mission to fulfill? Is he aware of it? -
I pose these questions to his parents and the boy himself.

"He says he can guess,- says his mother. He says he knows something
about the future of Earth. He says information will play the most
significant role in the future."

"Boris, how do you know all this?"

"It is inside of me."

"Boris, tell us why do people get sick?"

"Sickness comes from people's inability to live properly and be
happy. You must wait for your cosmic half. One should never get
involve and mess up other peoples' destinies. People should not
suffer because of their past mistakes, but get in touch with what's
been predestined for them and try to reach those heights and move on
to conquer their dreams." (These are the exact words he was using).

"You have to be more sympathetic and warmhearted. In case someone
strikes you, hug your enemy, apologize yourself and kneel before
him. In case someone hates you, love him with all your love and
devotion and ask for forgiveness. These are the rules of love and
humbleness. Do you know why the Lemurians died? I am also partially
to blame. They did not wish to develop spiritually any more. They
went astray from the predestined path thus destructing the overall
wholeness of the planet. The Magic's Path leads to dead end. Love is
the True Magic!

"How do you know all thishuh"

"I know. Kailis."

"What did you say?"

"I said 'hello!' This is the language of my planet."

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on May 30th, 2005, 2:59pm

thanks irwyn for that interesting post. being 7 years old this child would not have the life experience to make up these stories in such detail , so i just have to go with what he says. it is interesting indeed that his philosephy on anger and love is the same as jesus himself . this of course could have been learned ,but he says it with such conviction that i think it is genuine enough. children are the brightest of all and often astound me with knowledge beyond their years that you can only put down to memories of past lives that probably fade as they reach maturity.

diamond cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Isaw1again on May 30th, 2005, 3:09pm

Jesus came to my mind too, but I didn't write it. He's supposed to come back, right? This is posted in another section, I replied to, maybe news? kiss wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:10pm

fyi from one of my sources;

Subject: Extraterrestrial Exposure Law - Petition for Open Contact Law

Extraterrestrial Exposure Law - Petition for Open Contact Law

=======================

Some of you may already be familiar with the Extraterrestrial Exposure Law that NASA implemented under the statutory power it has as a Federal Government Agency in 1969 (14 CFR 1211). The law enabled the NASA administrator to quarantine or punish anyone from the public who comes into contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles. The most striking provision of the ET Exposure Law is the following:

"The Administrator or his designee...shall in his discretion:

Determine that a particular person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter, whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based only on a determination, with or without the benefit of a hearing, that there is probable cause to believe that such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed."

Though this regulation was removed from the Code of Federal Regulations in 1991 since it had ostensibly served its primary function during the Apollo Space missions, it remains in a legal status of 'reserved' and can be invoked if a new need arises.

The 'reserved' status of the ET Exposure Law means that Legal Counsel for any military department or government agency can secretly invoke the ET Exposure Law since it creates the legal precedent of how to deal with members of the public who have had extraterrestrial exposure.

This means that the NASA Administrator or his designee has unlimited power to put under armed guard, without a hearing and indefinitely held in quarantine any individual with ET exposure. This power has very likely been secretly used against numerous individuals who have claimed to have been 'contacted' or 'abducted' by extraterrestrials.

Such individuals are at the mercy of government agencies who have the power to quarantine such individuals in order to gain their compliance with whatever demands NASA and/or government agencies have.

Dr Hein has organized a petition for those desiring an Open Extraterrestrial Contact Law which is fully debated within Congress. This is very important since the ET Exposure Law has very likely been secretly invoked to quarantine individuals with ET exposure, and remains a coercive instrument against any individual who has contact with extraterrestrials.

To sign his petition and for more information on the ET Exposure Law, go to:

http://www.mountbaldy.com/ETLaw/

Open Contact with extraterrestrials is an important issue for us all and its well worth supporting this initiative by Dr Hein and keeping the public aware of the legal implications of the ET exposure law which will in reserve, provides legal justification for it to be secretly invoked by legal counsel of government/military agencies and departments.

Websites explaining the ET Exposure Law are:

http://www.beyondweird.com/etlaw.html

http://www.karenlyster.com/law.html

http://www.shellac.org/slu/sluetlaw.html

In peace,

Dr. Michael Salla

Angelika Whitecliff

www.GalacticDiplomacy.com

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:14pm

fyi;

Date: Mon May 30, 2005 6:10 am

Subject: BBB&G's & Yahoo Web Beacons....

A friend sent me this, and I thought I would post it to see if anyone knows about this:

Did you read the article on Rense.com about the Yahoo "Web Beacons" go to

http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/beacons/details.html

It tells about how Yahoo tracks every where you go on the web if you have an email address with them. It also gives instructions on how to disable it. It is worth looking into and you may also want to post it on Message Board. - Dan

Thanks for that cheat... unbelievable... Andy lifecoachno1

http://www.rense.com/general65/yahoowebbeaconsspy.htm

Yahoo 'Web Beacons' Spy On And Track Yahoo Users!

From Anonymous

5-15-5


Yahoo tracks all of its users everywhere on the web and the way to opt-out is detailed below. If you have a Yahoo e-mail account or belong to one of Yahoo's many Yahoo groups, this probably applies to you. Yahoo has probably been tracking everything you do online. Follow the instructions precisely to opt out of this. Notice the important part at the very end.


"Yahoo is now using something called 'Web Beacons' to track Yahoo Group users around the net and see what you're doing and where you are going similar to cookies. Yahoo is recording every website and every group you visit.


Take a look at their updated privacy statement:


http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy

About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will see a link that says web beacons. Click on the phrase web beacons.


http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/beacons/details.html

That will bring you to a paragraph entitled "Outside the Yahoo Network."


In this section you'll see a little "click here to opt out" link that will let you "opt-out" of their new method of snooping.


Once you have clicked that link, you are exempted. Notice the "Success" message on the top of the next page. Be careful because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt-out" button that, if clicked, will **undo** the opt-out. So don't reflexively click that button, or you will undo the opt-out ! Feel free to forward this to other groups."

Disclaimer



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:16pm

fyi; received from one of my sorces;

NORTHERN EXPOSURE
Latest threat to security:
Disgruntled bureaucrats
War-game scenario has public employees hacking defense computers in labor dispute
Posted: May 29, 2005 5:53 p.m. Eastern

The latest war gaming exercise by the Canadian Department of National Defense echoes the line from the old Pogo cartoon – "We have met the enemy and he is us" – by testing a scenario where the military's computers come under attack, not from China, Islamic terrorists or hackers, but Canada's own federal employees.

A document, obtained by the Ottawa Citizen using Canada's Access to Information law, describes how federal employees attempt to crash the military's primary computer system during a protracted labor dispute. The gaming scenario has undetectable computer code being entered into the system by a civilian employee at the National Defense headquarters.

The mock exercise, called "Scenario 10 – Defense of North America Cyber Attack Variant," was designed to demonstrate the ability of Defense Department employees to corrupt data, introduce malicious viruses and compromise the military's computers. During a contentious strike, such an internal attack could be expected, according to the scenario.

The documents obtained by the Ottawa Citizen do not explain why the military is focusing on internal sabotage instead of the more widely feared incursion of hostile foreign governments or terrorists.

"It is also possible that an employee who has been influenced by an outside agency or a hostile country or organization might propagate an internal attack," the documents say. The prospect of a civilian employee gaining access to the department's classified networks, while a more serious threat, was rated as less likely.

John MacLennan, president of the Union of National Defense Employees, says he had not been informed of the Scenario 10 document, but expressed doubt that civilian members of his organization would carry out such attacks. His group, he says, supports the Department of Defense on security matters and had, following the Sept 11, 2001, attacks in the U.S., disbanded picket lines around military bases within 20 minutes.

"You've got irate military in there, too," he added.

Computers at Canada's Department of Defense have been successfuly breached by hackers in the past – at least 10 times in 2003. A 17-year-old high school student in the U.S. gained access in 1999 after a 10-minute effort to break in, leaving messages that described ways the military could improve security.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44508
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:27pm

fyi; part2;

Missouri amber burning light


BLUE SPRINGS – The witnesses report, “At 11:19 PM, on May 6, 2005, my girlfriend and I were heading back from dinner driving south on Highway 7, when something amberish color caught my eye.” At first we thought it was a tower light, but it was flickering like it was burning. It was orange like fire and was much higher than a tower. Coming up to Pink Hill Road, it got smaller and smaller like one of those tiny whitish, bluish stars in the sky. Then, it started to move west and it moved closer and we could see flashing red and white lights, just like an airplanes.



We thought a plane might have caught fire. As we stopped for the light at I-70, the flashing lights were flashing one at a time in a linear motion but around the object. There was a larger light underneath. The lights were moving in an oval shape so we tried to follow. It looked like it completely shifted shape because of the way the lights were positioned before it started moving slowly away from us. It turned from going west to north, but in a matter of about 15 seconds it kept getting smaller and smaller, then it disappeared over the horizon. It changed from a fireball shape and shifted to a somewhat shoddy airplane. It might have come into the atmosphere at a great speed and then proceeded to fly over our airspace. We have never seen anything like this before. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com



Michigan triangular craft



ROCHESTER – The observer exclaims, “I saw my first triangular UFO at 3:38 AM, while delivering newspapers on May 1, 2005, at 3:38 AM.” The sky was cloudy but in a clear section one of the stars started moving, then a second and third star followed. It slowly glided for 20 seconds until it went into some cloud coverage. He states, “I was staring at a triangular craft, at first on its side, then it slowly turned, and I saw the "triangular" formation. Now, I am pretty sure it was one craft. The lights on the craft were as bright as a small star, and there were 3 lights, one on each angle of the craft. There was no middle light and the craft had no color. It look like it was transparent, or the color of the sky. The lights never blinked, nor flashed and it used the night sky as camouflage. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com



North Carolina Photo



Alan Caviness reports, “This UFO was photographed conducting operations in Davidson County on the evening of May 18, 2005. The same type of object was photographed over a dozen times during the same hour. It was also captured many times during the summer of 2004 from the same property. This is a very busy area for UFO craft of various types and their smaller companions that often accompany them. The "companion" UFOs spend a lot of time positioned in the craft's horizontal plane (possibly absorbing energy) but at other times are detected near the ground and the observation team.



They are thought to be scouts or probes. Sometimes they get within meters of the field team, but like the primary UFOs, are invisible to the human eye. Intense airplane traffic occurs daily without incident and six members of the field team saw one small white light actually slow down to let an aircraft go past at approximately 10,000 feet. The UFO resumed its speed immediately afterward.



UFO activity over the area is expected to increase for the next several months.

Our team abounds in UFO photographs of higher quality than what is seen here. If anyone wishes to subscribe to Filers Files or make an equivalent financial donation, I would be happy to send a photographic CD of our previous work. It has close to 100 pics. Filers Files has helped us immensely over the years with its updates and we appreciate the website greatly. I personally witnessed a high altitude sighting of a "green fireball" type UFO and later saw a Filers Files report submitted by a witness several miles away from me. The report was extremely accurate. We know that a lot of hard work and "out-of-pocket" financial expenses are required to make this website what it is. This is our way of saying "thanks". Regards, Alan Caviness Carolina Group Research Project







New York rectangle and triangular objects



FOREST HILLS -- Two triangular shaped objects, flying parallel to each other, flew west, very rapidly on May 10, 2005, at 9:15 PM,
The observer saw two bright triangular shapes, parallel to each other flying overhead, very quickly, across the sky. In a moment, they were gone. I have never seen anything like this. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com



RONKONKOMA – The witness was parked in a shopping center waiting for his girlfriend at 11:45 AM, on May 5, 2005, when he saw a women pointing up at a rectangle shaped object. It was fifty feet above the light poles. The object was around 2 feet wide 4 feet long and razor thin. It had a transparent texture with holes. In other words it looked like a rectangle frame covered in wax paper and the wax paper had all holes evenly spaced in it and only the outer rim of the hole would stand out. The centers of the holes were also transparent. This object stayed in one spot rotating very slowly. As it rotated the sun would shine off its edges. This is what would keep you from loosing sight of it. The center did not reflect sunlight. The wind was around 10 miles per hour and gusty at times yet this object wasn’t affected. Several others noticed the object and after 5 minutes of watching, it suddenly flew straight up quite fast. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:33pm

fyi; part1;

Filer’s Files #22 – 2005,
Skywatch Investigations

George A. Filer, Director MUFON Eastern

Vice President of Skywatch International

May 25, 2005, Web: www.georgefiler.com

Webmaster: C E Warren www.cewarren.



Brazil Air Force recognizes UFO research

The purpose of these files is to report weekly the UFO eyewitness and photo/video evidence that occurs on a daily basis around the world and in space. Many people claim it is impossible for UFOs to visit Earth, I ask you only to keep an open mind and watch the evidence we accumulate each week. These Files make the assumption that extraterrestrial intelligent life not only exists, but my hypothesis is that of the over one hundred UFOs reported each week many represent a factual UFO sighting.

Articles this week include: General Twining's flying disk memo, Mars lighthouse. UFOs were seen over Arizona, California, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, Missouri, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington. Sightings were also reported in Australia, Canada, Brazil, Finland, Mexico, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.



On 23 September 1947, General Nathan Twining wrote this now famous memo:



Air Material Commands Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"

TO: Commanding General

Army Air Forces

Washington 25, D.C.



1. As requested by AC/AS-2 (General George Schulgen) there is presented below the considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs." This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studied by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.



2. It is the opinion that:



a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious.



b. There are objects probably approximately the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.



c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors.



d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.



e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:

(1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.

(2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high performance conditions.

(3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top.

(4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects.

(5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted.

(6) Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.



Editor's Note: While I was giving a speech at the Roswell Museum a young man introduced himself and told me his father had flown alien bodies and debris of the Roswell disc to Wright Field in 1947. He was the co-pilot on Captain Pappy Oliver Henderson's C-54 crew and was convinced this debris was not of this world.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:37pm

fyi; part3;

Ohio video of UFO



Fostoria - George Ritter's RCA VHS video camera captured this disk on April 18, 2005 over a nearby farm house. The disk appears on only one frame of the video indicating the object is moving at over a thousand miles per hour. Fostoria is located near Lake Erie and near the 41 degree latitude where UFOs are frequently reported. The space shuttle cameras often picked up UFOs moving east and west along this latitude.




Oregon disk





PORTLAND -- On May 1, 2005, at 1 AM, the witness was relaxing on his balcony with four friends when they spotted a vessel moving south parallel to the river over the downtown Wells Fargo tower. The object was very bright and there was a visible halo as it flew relatively low. It was orb-like due to the extremely bright orange fire-colored halo. Further observation with a Discovery Channel telescope, revealed it had a definite disk-like shape. The lights were at the bottom of the disc, the top was very hard to make out but was definitely a very large metal structure.

A second ship of the same description came into view moving at the same slow, lurking speed, almost as if they were patrolling or searching for something, a third ship came into view a few moments later. All three ships passed the northeast corner of the building and were no longer visible. The witnesses stated, “We ran down the stairs to watch them move across the sky in a clear triangular formation and they flew vertically up and out of the atmosphere until they could no longer be seen.” ((NUFORC Note: Student report. We are uncertain whether the report is meant to be a serious report. We received no other reports of this incident, which seems strange to us, although there were reports submitted from other locations on the west coast for the same time period.)) Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com



Pennsylvania light



WARMINSTER -- Looking southeast the witness saw a bright neon-green light angle toward the ground on May 7, 2005, at 9:55 PM. The witness saw it fly at about a 60 degree angle at a fast rate of speed through a break in the trees. The round bright green dot with a brighter whitish center light was moving fast as it appeared to be too close to the ground not to hit the ground. I neither saw nor heard any indication of this light hitting the ground. I did contact a Philadelphia news channel to find out if this light was seen by anyone else. No reply from the e-mail as of 11:03 PM. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com





Texas KLTV news reports on UFO photos



Morgan Palmer writes, “For as long as there have been cameras, folks have captured on film what they say might be from another world.” Or, they say the UFOs might be a secret aircraft the government doesn't want us to know about. Despite the true answer, the fascination with the strange objects in the sky is stronger than ever, mainly because of the internet. B.J. Booth says it's just a great mystery. What is this in the East Texas sky? "We know there are many objects that are seen, photographed, and videotaped by reputable individuals." Booth speaks for a man in Kaufman County -- a man named Larry who doesn't want the spotlight. He just took these pictures, and video. Over the past few years, Booth says his video shows objects that defy explanation. Like a strange white object moving toward a low flying plane. "He was picking up some objects in his camera that he wasn't really seeing or didn't notice when he was taking pictures." Some of the video and pictures are just of strange lights in the night sky -- moving quickly.



But some of the pictures Larry has sent to Booth's web site, www.ufocasebook.com, are jaw-dropping. "We haven't been able to supply a lot of answers, and no one has because these objects have not been able to be identified," Booth says. Take for instance a bronze colored shape. It doesn't look to be a plane. Neither does a spectacular beacon of light moving within the clouds in the daytime. "They cannot be explained by anything that we know of, or anything that's flying today in our skies," Booth proclaims. snip Reported by Morgan Palmer (morganpalmer@kltv.com).

http://www.kltv.com/



Utah – flying triangle



LOGAN -- The witness saw a series of five very dim lights creating a triangular pattern that flew north over head without making a sound on April 26, 2005, at 10:50 PM, This pattern seemed to make a solid triangle with three of the lights making the three corners and two more extending from the leading edge apex light of the triangle. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:51pm

fyilaughart4;

Virginia 2,000 foot cigar



LURAY -- On Sunday afternoon, the first of May, at 3:21 PM, the witness and his son were loading groceries in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart when they heard an unusual sounding jet flying over. It had a very deep resonance sound. The craft, then, suddenly appeared out from behind the high cirrus cloud cover and I realized that there was absolutely no contrail being emitted from the craft. The sound immediately indicated to me that the craft was extremely solid and well built as I looked and realized that this craft had to be in excess of well over 1500 or 2000 feet in length. It was well above the cirrus clouds, which I estimate to have been at 40 to 50 thousand feet. It had a very long needle like appearance and was at about 60 or 70 thousand feet. It was very light, bright white in color, no lights, and no apparent wings or tail. The craft was traveling due east at in excess of 1500 miles per hour. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com



Virginia Scientist Photographs UFO at 35,000 feet



Rense.com reports, “I am a former Engineer for the Lockheed Martin Corporation from 2001 and 2004, providing operational support to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). During the course of my time there, I authored many peer-reviewed scientific publications, and was invited to present some of my own original research at the 2003 IEEE AP-S International Symposium.



My observational abilities and degree of scientific skepticism are quite well-developed. I have a dual M.S. degree in Physics and Computer Science, plenty of research experience, and I was an avid amateur astronomer. I can honestly say that until 2003, I had never seen anything but clouds outside of an airplane window at 35,000 feet, and I haven't seen anything like what I am about to describe. On my trip home to Norfolk, I observed some very anomalous aerial activity during my flight, and fortunately, was able to snap a picture of it. The image in question was captured using a disposable 35 mm Kodak Advantix camera. Thanks to Jeff Rense.

Editor's Note: We will discuss this case on Jeff's radio show on Tuesday June 7, 2005



Wisconsin – flying bright lights



BEAVER DAM – The witness saw unidentified flying objects last month, and again on May 16, 2005, at 9:30 PM. The UFOs flew over almost exactly a month later, in the same location. A small white light appeared that moved like a satellite, only much, much closer to Earth traveling towards the southwest at low altitude. It seemed to slow down or even stop. There were no blinking lights but they started to get brighter and got as bright as Jupiter. It reminded me of a plane that is coming in to an airport at night, with all its bright landing lights on. The object changed direction and climbed fast and high, and dimmed quickly. I was able to see it for about 4 seconds before it was too high to see anymore.



Washington flying triangle



KIRKLAND – On May 13, 2005, at 12:19 AM,

A perfect black triangle with nine orange to yellowish lights on two sides of triangle was seen by the witness. There was a center light at the front tip of the craft with four lights following each leading edge for a total of nine lights. No lights were observed on the stern or rear of the triangle. The color of the lights was a very light salmon/orange yellow. The lights glowed with barely detectible movement similar to air heating phenomena which you see on heated roadways, but in this case the area was confined to the lights themselves.

The witness discovered the craft due east in my field of view and the craft was traveling north. I estimate the craft was ¾ to 1 mile from my position. I estimated altitude 200-350 feet from ground traveling 70-110 knots “banking” (more like floating) towards the port/left. The craft leveled off traveling towards the NE and became undetectable as it became level, in perfect stealth. The craft seem to “float” like observed satellites float in an arc across the sky, but this craft floated in a straight line close the earth. The size of the craft was as big as a 747 or at least ¾ of a football field. Thanks to Russ Hamerly.



Australia large black triangle



EMERALD, QUEENSLAND -- On May 6, 2005, at 6:30 PM, a large black object was seen in the sky with red lights at each point. The observers were driving along the highway and looked out the window to see a large black triangle in the sky with red lights at each point.



Brazilian Military recognize UFO research



A. J. Gevaerd, Editor of the Brazilian UFO Magazine and Head of the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU) reports,

“Friday, May 20, was an historic day for Ufology in Brazil and in the world as the Brazilian Air Force (FAB), for the very first time in its history, officially received a committee of top UFO researchers to openly discuss sightings in the country and fully exam classified UFO documents in several military facilities in Brasilia, the Federal Capital.” By doing this very important step, Brazilian Air Force (FAB) has placed Brazil in a very short list of countries whose militaries acknowledge the Ufology as a serious activity and significant effort to fully understand the nature and origin of UFOs. “We want to have all info on the subject, that is withheld by us for some decades, fully released to public, through the UFO community”, declared brigadier Telles Ribeiro, chief of Brazilian Air Force Communication Center. The Brazilian Government, through the Brazilian Air Force, has finally decided to come forward and recognize the UFO research as a genuine activity as a direct result of the intense pressure made by the campaign UFOs: Freedom of Information Now, a movement started by the Brazilian UFO Magazine in April 2004. The campaign was launched by the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU), composed of 6 UFO civilian researchers.

Details of the campaign both in Portuguese and in English can be seen at: www.ufo.com.br and www.ufo.com.br/secrecy.php





Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 3rd, 2005, 3:52pm

fyi; part5;


Canada disc photo and diamond



OSHAWA -- Paul Shishis writes, “More sightings and pics coming your way. First set from home on Saturday April 9, 2005 at about 11 PM. These were seen with the naked eye, very high, in the clear sky. Thanks to Paul Shishis



LONDON, ONTARIO -- At five minutes after midnight, two diamond shaped ships were observed on Tuesday, May 11 2005. The witnessed noticed a purple and blue light in the sky. It was too early in the year for the aurora borealis. The witness looked harder and saw two diamond shaped white moving lights in the center of the purple cloud shape. They were moving in unison and seemed to join together. They went straight north across the sky very quickly and were out of view within in a minute.
in a purple cloud. No airplane could move in this way.



Chile cigar photographed over volcano




OSORNO VOLCANO -- During February reports that in the midst of summer vacation in the vicinity of Lake Llanquihue, a variety of UFO phenomenon were reported. Farmers from neighboring communities furnished eyewitness reports of strange lights with irregular movements, usually vanishing from sight near the Osorno Volcano. One such sighting was recorded by Jorge Quinn's photo camera as he spent his vacation near the site. The image was discovered only after his return to Santiago de Chile. The image shows a cigar-shaped UFO, one of the most common and largest in the UFO phenomenon. Southern Chile is considered as a "hot zone" on a global level as regards the presence of UFOs and are tracked by the military. Thanks to Terra.Cl 3/30/05 Translation (c) 2005, Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU)





Finland: Giant Fireball in the Sky



HELSINKI - An enormous fireball of exceptional luminous intensity crossed the skies over Finland in the afternoon, possibly exploding over the border between Russian and Finland on May 18, 2005 at 7:51 AM ET.



The information received today was from URSA, the Finnish Astronomical Society. The phenomenon was witnessed by dozens of people in the eastern regions of the country. "Our mathematicians have calculated that the [object] was without any doubt a burning meteorite that came from our western confines and ended with an explosion over Russian Carelia."

Translation (c) 2005, Scott Corrales, IHU.

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Mexico photographs of UFOs



COLONY AQUEDUCT OF GUADALUPE --Ana Luisa Cid captured photographs on May 20, 2005, at 7:48 PM, of UFOs located to the north of Mexico City. She saw objects of great size and used a digital camera Mustek Mark camera. The photographs were taken on the Hill of Chiquihuite where there has been many previous sightings. There are several television transmitters and radio stations there.





Sweden flying bright light



GOTHENBURG -- On May 7, 2005, at 11 PM, the observers saw a flying object similar to a very bright star in the northern sky. The object flew in a straight line and then changed its direction to leave the earth’s atmosphere in a straight line very, very fast with the speed of lightning. The first time we saw it was in August 1999, and have tried to contact the authorities, but everyone denies that such an object ever existed. We saw a documentary on TV in 2001 that showed the same objects filmed by NASA flying into the earth’s atmosphere. Why this is kept secret we do not know? But we know these are the same objects we keep seeing in the sky. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com


UK/Scotland moving star

GLASGOW – The observer was walking back from the gym on a clear night at 9:45 PM on April 20, 2005, when he noticed that a star was moving slowly. He thought it might be an aircraft, but it was moving far too slow to be a plane and was far too silent to be a helicopter. There were no flashing lights on it. After about 4 minutes it was moving over the tree line.



UK/England cylindrical object



HARTLEPOOL – Walking home from his girlfriends around 11:15 PM, the witness noticed an unusually large orange star which he first thought to be a shooting star. He noticed it was moving in bizarre patterns, and could not be a star. It made erratic movements and performed sharp turns at high speed. The cylindrical shaped object was performing complex maneuvers on May 1, 2005. After some seconds it appeared to accelerate at great speed in a easterly direction out of my sight. The whole thing lasted around two minutes. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director, www.ufocenter.com





HAMPSHIRE -- The witness was outside repairing a gap in the chicken's pen when he noticed two circular amber/orangey colored light's over some nearby farmland on May 10, 2005, at 9 :25 PM. The light's were 00 to 600 feet up and did not appear to be moving. There was no sound as the lights hovered. After 25 second's the amber light's went out and a few seconds later there were numerous lights in the sky. Some were flashing and these were aircraft going in different directions and were very different from the two Amber/Orange light's that I had just seen. I don't know what this object was and but it has me puzzled and it mystified and genuinely seems strange.


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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 13th, 2005, 6:15pm

fyi;

I THINK THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.

MARS SPECTACULAR!

The Red Planet is about to be spectacular! This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars in an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the Last 5,000 years, but it may be as long as 60,000 years before it happens again.

The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles of Earth and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification

Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August it will rise in the east at 10p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m.

By the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30a.m. That's pretty convenient to see something that no human being has seen in recorded history. So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month.

Share this with your children and grandchildren. NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WILL EVER SEE THIS AGAIN.



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Kan on Jun 14th, 2005, 08:30am

WOW.Thanks cheesy
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jun 14th, 2005, 2:06pm

I love those once in a lifetime events. Makes you appreciate all the beauty out there! smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 2nd, 2005, 6:29pm

fyi;

Subject: 3 thoughts

Consider These 3 Thoughts
(1) Zero Gravity
When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat this problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside-down, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C.
The Russians used a pencil. Your taxes are due again--enjoy paying them.

(2) Our Constitution
"They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and hell, we're not using it anymore."

(3) Ten Commandments
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse is that you cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians! It creates a hostile work environment.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by diamond on Jul 4th, 2005, 10:26am

grin grin grin lol . good one irwyn.

i guess iraq needs a constitution that works .

we always look for complicated answers to simple questions.

Q. what's 30ft long yellow and makes everybody happy ? grin
A. busload of lawyers / pollies going over a cliff. rolleyes

oldie but goodie.

diamond cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jul 4th, 2005, 2:53pm

You two are cute! wink
Thanks for the laugh.....
I do think a lot about where the heck those tax dollars go....They should have made do with pencils too.

But I loved the chuckles grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Aug 8th, 2005, 10:01am

FYI; I received this recently via e-mail:

"Unless a man feels he has a good enough memory, he should never
venture to lie."

Authors say Famed Apparitions in 1917 were Close Encounters with
Alien Beings

VICTORIA, BC - The Fatima incident was an important event in the
history of religion. In 1917, three little Portuguese shepherds
- Jacinta, Francisco, and Lucia - suddenly encountered the
Virgin Mary, illuminated in the splendor of heavenly lights, who
told the children three secrets about the fate of the Earth. The
contacts were followed by an unexplained aerial phenomenon,
called "The Miracle of the Sun," in which the Sun was seen to
dance in the sky by thousands of awestruck onlookers who flocked
to Fatima.

The apparitions were presumed to be a case of divine
intervention in human affairs, a sign from Heaven that the world
war then raging in Europe should end. A shrine sprang up at
Fatima that drew millions of believers, and a myth was invented
that the secrets of Fatima would be revealed in the fullness of
time - as a testament of faith in a secular age.

In Heavenly Lights (EcceNova Editions; July 2, 2005; $22.95),
Portuguese historians Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada tell
the true story of the apparitions of Fatima. The first history
of Fatima to be written by Portuguese historians based on the
original documents, Heavenly Lights is the result of a 25-year
odyssey by the authors in search of the actual facts of the
Fatima case. Fernandes and d'Armada began their investigation in
1978, when they were given access to secret archives held at the
Sanctuary of Fatima.

The records of Sister Lucia, kept at the archives since the
incident, revealed that the children did not interact with an
apparition of the Virgin Mary but with a hologram of an
extraterrestrial projected on a beam of light from a spacecraft
hovering high above them. The archives clearly showed that the
entities encountered at Fatima were not deities from Heaven but
rather alien beings visiting our planet from "elsewhere" in the
vast Cosmos. This finding was supported by hundreds of other
facts from the time of the apparitions. Fatima, the authors
discovered, was the first major UFO case of the 20th century.

Heavenly Lights is certain to become a definitive history of the
Fatima Incident of 1917. When it was first published in Portugal
in 1995, entitled As Aparicoes de Fatima e o Fenomeno OVNI, the
Jornal de Noticias, a leading Portuguese newspaper, heralded the
work "a literary success without precedent in the field of
Portuguese ufological studies."

Now the whole world can know the truth about the apparitions of
Fatima. This new translation by American journalists Andrew D.
Basiago and Eva M. Thompson offers a powerful argument for both
UFO researchers and religious scholars alike to re-examine the
actual evidence that at last explains the enduring mystery of
the Fatima incident.

About the Authors

Joaquim Fernandes is Professor of History at the University
Fernando Pessoa in Porto, Portugal. He directs the Multicultural
Apparitions Research International Academic Network (Project
MARIAN). His research interests include the history of science
and the comparative anthropology of religion, with an emphasis
on anomalistic phenomena.



About the Book

Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO
Phenomenon

By Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada

Translated and Edited by Andrew D. Basiago and Eva M. Thompson

Foreword by Jacques F. Vallee


Claude's Commentary portions:
(c) Copyright 2005 Claude DiDomenica, All Rights Reserved

You may share this with your friends via private E-mail only, as
long as it remains in its entirety and this notice is NOT
removed, and no profit is made from the use thereof.

What do you think? Irwyn



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Aug 8th, 2005, 10:11pm

I had heard this theory suggested before. Thank you timetraveler for sharing this.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by JohnnyAnonymous on Oct 5th, 2005, 10:53pm

on Jul 2nd, 2005, 6:29pm, timetraveler wrote:
fyi;

Subject: 3 thoughts

Consider These 3 Thoughts
(1) Zero Gravity
When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat this problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside-down, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C.
The Russians used a pencil. Your taxes are due again--enjoy paying them.

(2) Our Constitution
"They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and hell, we're not using it anymore."

(3) Ten Commandments
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse is that you cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians! It creates a hostile work environment.



I really enjoyed these points.. I've marveled over the zero-gravity ball-point pen vs. the russian pencil. And do you really believe we spent all that money on that one item.. By the way before you answer that I have a hammer that the government can by for $175.oo (read the last budget expenses if you find that hard to swallow).

The drafting a Constitution for Iraq, woohoo, theres a stretch of reality for you..

And in regards to the ten commandments,,, well I could write a whole thread all on it's on with this topic..

I know that this is an older post that i'm referencing, but I'm playing catch-up in many a thread...
I want you to know that I thoroughly enjoy each and every one of your thought-provoking submissions and posts...
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 28th, 2005, 09:32am

I have not been able to do any recent postings due to hurricane problems in my area as well as my computer and high drive crashing. I have just finished my second book which has some great inspirational material. As soon as I get over my bad cold I will get active with my web page again. I think that "UFOcasebook"is the greatest Internet forum and that the contributors are the most intelligent and interesting people in the Universe.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 28th, 2005, 12:52pm

Filer's Files #42 -- 2005

George A. Filer, Director MUFON Eastern

Vice President of Skywatch International

October 12, 2005, Web www.georgefiler.com



Earthquakes and Sightings Increase



This week's files cover: Increase in Earthquakes. Seashells and life found on Mars.

Also UFOs were seen over Arizona, Atlantic Ocean, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington and Wisconsin.

Many sightings were also reported in Bolivia, Canada, Mexico, Mongolia, New Zealand, and the Pacific Ocean.



The purpose of these files is to report weekly the UFO eyewitness and photo/video evidence that occurs on a daily basis around the world. These Files make the assumption that extraterrestrial intelligent life not only exists, but my hypothesis is that of the over one hundred UFOs reported each week many represent alien craft.



Expect more disastrous earthquakes



Is it possible the Sun’s activity results in earthquakes? Almost every day for two weeks in September, solar flares issued from a giant sunspot named "active region 798/808." X-rays ionized Earth’s upper atmosphere, charged magnetic particles and Solar protons hit our atmosphere. Surprisingly during the storms, radiation levels onboard the International Space Station (ISS) dropped. "The crew of the ISS absorbed about 30% fewer cosmic rays than usual but we can assume the Earth absorbed some of the terrific energies from the sun and may have resulted in movement of the tectonic plates."



The reason is simple: When sunspots explode, they often hurl massive clouds of hot gas away from the sun. These clouds, called CMEs (coronal mass ejections), contain not only gas but also magnetic force fields, knots of magnetism ripped away from the sun by the explosion. Magnetic fields deflect charged particles, so when a CME sweeps past Earth, it also sweeps away many of the electrically-charged cosmic rays that would otherwise strike our planet. This is the "Forbush decrease."

The Earth has a layered structure, with a relatively thin crust of mobile plates, a solid mantle with gradual overturning movement, and the outer and inner core of molten and solid iron. Probably the greatest factors to effect the Earth are solar flares. The magnetosphere protecting the Earth is being generated by the dynamo action in the Earth's interior that may be effected by activity on the sun.



It is logical to assume the heat and energy coming from the Sun may effect our Earth’s molten iron core. I seems logical that there may be a cause and effect as the Earth's magnetic field is effected by CMEs and flares on the sun, it may effect the 4,300-mile-wide outer core and its mobile tectonic plates. When the plates move they result in Earthquakes like the one that hit Southern Asia. When a plate moves it seems to effect other tectonic plates at different places in the world. The recent Indonesian Tsunami may have helped caused the later movement in Pakistan.



ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - A powerful 7.6-magnitude earthquake near the Pakistan-India border Saturday reduced villages to rubble, triggered landslides and flattened thousands of buildings and killing 30,000. In the capitals of Pakistan, India and Afghanistan, buildings shook and walls swayed for about a minute, and panicked people ran from their homes and offices. Tremors continued for hours afterward. Communications throughout the region were cut. Guatemala was also hit by an earthquake

The Asian area as far west as Turkey and the Ring of Fire around the Pacific Rim appears unusually unsettled, and we can expect major earthquakes and increased volcanic action at any time. This are includes the American West Coast, Japan, Indonesia, and China.



Mars has seashells



Sir Charles W. Shults III, of Xenotech Research writes, “I have a new web page that details life on Mars and also supports Panspermia theories that some organisms here on Earth were imported from Mars on meteorites.” Dr. Shultz has found that Mars Rover Opportunity's images of fossil seashells match seashells on Earth. The spiral seashell shown here has an apparent 3 mm size with a depressed area where the hole would be similar to Earth fossil shells.



The original NASA link is at: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/505/1M173017399EFF55VWP2936M2M1.HTMLCompare to these Earth sea shell fossils.

Thanks to Sir Charles W. Shults III, http://www.xenotechresearch.com/mk505a.htm

Arizona two boomerangs or V shaped crafts



GILBERT -- My wife and I were driving home from Scottsdale, on Wednesday evening September 14, 2005, at 8:45 p.m., when in the southeast sky I noticed a stationary pulsating light. I thought it was very odd to see that sort of light characteristic in the flight path of Sky Harbor airport. It just hung over the San Tan Mountains in the southeast sky. When I got home, my wife who was behind me, pulled into our driveway and was very excited - she was yelling, “Did I see the green lights?” She said she saw two boomerang or V shaped craft with green lights. NUFORC Note: We spoke via telephone with the husband.



Atlantic Ocean disk flies next to jet

PARIS-PHILADELPHIA -- On September 18, 2005 The witness was on a Trans-Atlantic flight when he saw a lenticular black cloud fly formation with our jet right off the wing, at 2 PM. It quickly formed a solid sphere shaped mass and accelerated away at a high speed in the clear sky. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



California spider like threads and a saucer

PINECREST --We were in the woods off Highway 108 when we saw what looked like long strands of spider like web, some short, long etc. The spider like strands were swirling, falling and drifting somewhat very high on September 28, 2005, at 1:30 PM.

Then I saw the saucer like a flat plate with a dome which was a dark gray in color. I told my friend that I saw a UFO, but because of his poor eyesight he had not see it. However, he did see the spider web stuff.

When I picked up my binoculars, I could not find it as it was out of sight. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



MODESTO, CA -- R. David Anderson writes, “I saw the photo that you had on your web site last week of the orbs taken in North Carolina on September 22, FF #41, by The Carolina Group Research field team. I took a photo that bears some similarity to it at the Christmas parade downtown in December. I recently enlarged the spherical-like objects that appear to be green orbs. They were located above the ground, elevated by at least 30 feet.



Most of the orbs were surrounding the McHenry Mansion, a historical home that was one of the earliest houses built in Modesto. I am wondering if these light sources are of an energy vortex of some type? I learned there had been many premature deaths at the McHenry Mansion. Robert McHenry died there only six years after he built the house, and his wife passed away seven years later. Then the son lived there, and his daughter was killed tragically in a gas appliance accident. Thanks to R. David Anderson,



Colorado boomerang shaped object


BOULDER -- On September 19, 2005, I was lying down in our local park at 8:20 PM, just looking at the stars when I witnessed a boomerang shaped craft cross the sky directly overhead. The craft had no lights, but was quite large and easy to spot as a nearly full moon was just coming up over the horizon. I managed to see the craft as it blocked out the stars, and they blinked in and out as it traversed the sky.



The craft was 3 or 4 inches between my thumb and index finger at arm’s length. The craft was definitely under intelligent control and moved from north to southwest without sound. It was dark in color similar to the night sky. I watched the craft traverse overhead in a straight line for ten seconds. Other airplanes with lights were in the area. It could have been a glider flying at night, a black military project, or an unknown craft guided by intelligence. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Florida 10 to 15 boomerang shaped objects

VENICE --About 10-15 boomerang shaped craft flew over on September 4, 2005, at 9:45 PM. They appeared suddenly as if descending from a very high altitude and were glowing milky white. The outline of the group shifted fluidly -- as if they were keeping formation loosely. Their lights did not blink and was solid lighting. The silent over flight lasted only about fifteen seconds as they disappeared into clouds as burglar alarms were set off in the neighborhood. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Illinois red lights in triangular pattern



NEW LENNOX – I work as a large equipment fueler and usually load my truck for the days stops at around 4:45 AM every day. While the truck was is loading on September 30, 2005, I noticed three extremely bright stars in the shape of a triangle. I stood there for a minute when all of the sudden the bottom left star moved about a foot and half to the north.

At first, I thought it was a satellite, but then it stopped. Then the bottom right object flew off to the east and I eventually lost site of it. I looked back at the two remaining objects only to see the top object slowly fade into the night sky as if it was rising straight up. The first objects remained in position. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com

TINLEY PARK/ORLAND PARK – Ten miles east and eighteen hours later three red lights hovering were seen over the Chicago Suburbs on September 30th, about 11 PM. The following night on October 1, 3005, they were seen again. They changed from red to green and back again. Similar lights were seen last year. Video and photographs to be looked at latter today. First report was noted as be
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 28th, 2005, 1:00pm

page 2;
First report was noted as being seen at 11:23 PM on, at 11:30 PM and last after 1:30 AM

OAK FOREST -- Two red lights were dangling in the air swaying side to side slowly and looked just like stars disappeared after about ten minutes. They were occasionally blinking when one just disappeared the other went east until we no could no longer see it. My brother lives two miles away and he said the lights were directly above.

Last year aircraft on approach to O'Hara International Airport were diverted due to unidentified flying objects on radar southwest of the airport not far from this area. The Chicago Sun Times carried the story on October 2nd.
Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com


Michigan red lights and triangle





ANN ARBOR -- My Cousin and I were fishing on the Huron River on September 4, 2005, when I saw a very dim red-orange satellite moving slowly at high altitude from west to east. Two seconds later another satellite" appeared next to he first. The second one was the same color as the first, only slightly dimmer. Almost as soon as the second object appeared, it encircled the first, one time in a counter-clockwise direction, and then the two objects split up. The first, having changed its course only slightly, continued in an easterly direction. The second bolted south and disappeared.





Missouri fast moving triangle



ASHLAND -- Driving home from a friend’s house, I approached my exit into Ashland and saw three of four lights on the bottom of an object with a blinking red light near the middle.
At first, I thought it was a fast flying plane as it flew across the sky and crossed from one side of the highway to the other. After crossing the highway, the object came to a stop and hovered over a field.

The object slowly lost altitude and as it passed, I saw a faint outline was triangular in shape. This object seemed to be moving faster, hovered, and flew much lower than the planes I normally see.





Nevada Dimly lighted chevron

RENO -- The witness saw an object on the northwest horizon that was delta or chevron shaped on September 29, 2005 at 4:07 AM. At first, I thought it was a dimly lit flock of geese, but realized it was moving extremely fast and actually had very dim lights. I am outside a lot between 0345-0410 PDT for my job and this was by the far the weirdest thing I have ever seen.
It was not bright, but appeared close and made no sound. I just happened to catch it because I was watching the weather balloon I had just launched. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com




New Hampshire Disk



LACONIA -- I first noticed two small parallel vertical white lines hovering just beneath a cloud on September 19, 2005, at 2 PM.
I watched for twenty seconds what I thought was the back end of a plane, but as it moved, it appeared to change shape. Then I clearly saw a large silver-white disk, for fifteen seconds before it just disappeared without moving. I believe it was still hovering, but became invisible as the cloud next it was blown by the wind, decreasing its reflection ability. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com




New Jersey alien in my wooded backyard.

COLLINGS LAKES -- I did not see a UFO, but and actual being, which I believe to be an alien on September 22, 2005. At 1:25 AM,. I only saw it for a couple of seconds. I was running back home to grab something for my husband, and a "thing" shuffled from one side of my house, to my garage, and back into the woods. He was only fifteen feet away from me. Mid-walk, he turned to look at me, and he looked like the so called "gray" alien. He was short, and I got the feeling of fear from it. It had a very wrinkled forehead, black eyes, with very small whites of his eyes showing. He seemed also to have wrinkles or bags in other places; and its head was large. His eyes were very large with a small and somewhat flared out nose. He was a gray or whitish color, as was his cloak/hooded robe that covered most of its body. He made a quiet sound and might have been trying to eat from my trash?



My brother said, “I saw the same creature, a little weird dude with a hood on out back" My family is quite scared, because we do not think it left because we keep hearing loud noises. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com


SEASIDE PARK – We observed very bright orange lights over the ocean from the beach in Island Beach State Park at 9:30 PM, on September 22, 2005. They were like fireworks bursting to the east-southeast, about on-third up in the sky. There were no boats or ships below the lights or any evidence of a rocket from a boat. Lights would come on one, two, and then a group, looking like a rash or pimples. We saw them for about ten seconds, and then they reappeared in the same pattern for 30 to 45 seconds, and then twice more.



The remarkably bright lights might be rotating. After a final appearance of about fourteen seconds in a similar pattern, they disappeared.
Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



New York teardrop



BROOKLYN -- I was watching television when I heard a gong or church bell at 11:45 PM, on September 20, 2005. It seemed too late for church bells, so I looked out my window and saw what I thought was a blimp. It was making a whining sound that was a cross between a quiet helicopter and blimp. It was flying lower than any plane and too small to be a blimp. I was watching from my high floor 10th Street building and realized it was too close and low to be blimp.



The UFO was a cross between a small blimp and some kind of "quiet" helicopter. It flew southwest over Prospect Park and Coney Island out to sea. I described it over the phone to 911, but they hung up on me. I called 311 and asked how to report a UFO. They said it was outside their jurisdiction. I called the FBI and they said to call the FAA, but I was unable get a working number. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com





North Carolina are we alone?

High Point in Davidson County -- Jack Madison writes, “A Gallup poll shows that 72 percent of Americans believe there is life on other planets.” And one in five of us believe aliens have been in contact with human beings. Our own curiosity made us want to find out what evidence, if any, there is of alien spacecraft flying over North Carolina's skies. And why do people believe in, and explore, life from beyond. At a farm, in an undisclosed location, west of High Point in Davidson County, independent UFO researchers like Alan Caviness look to the sky, looking for signs of life. Life unlike anything we know. We sat down with Caviness to talk about his experiences.

"Earth has always been visited. We've never been alone. I think this is a gradual awakening that we're all in the middle of. And I believe I'm a part of that. And so are many other people."
Using digital cameras, Caviness takes pictures, hundreds of them, and video. He says the cameras pick up objects unseen to the naked eye. Caviness said, "We do know that our cameras can pick up in the near infrared part the light spectrum, which is beyond human visibility."

Caviness says some UFO's can be seen without high technology-if the aliens on board want you to see them. He and other believers in High Point say the space crafts only come here from the middle of March through early August. "These UFO's are conducting some kind of annual operations. We know that because we just don't see anything in the winter months when it's coldest. March 11, out of 400 photographs, we got six UFO's. So, we know that they're back."

In one account, Caviness and a companion saw two UFO's approaching. They took these pictures. Then, whatever it was gone. "We looked up, and they had to be right over our heads because they were approaching us, and there were just not visible. But they clearly showed up in the photos." Caviness does not just believe these unidentified flying objects are alien crafts, but that aliens are part of human life. He said, "There are a lot more people being abducted by these UFO's then you would ever dream."

People like Alan Caviness himself. "I know I've been abducted before." Once, he says, he heard a strange clicking noise in open air. On the way from his mailbox to his home, something happened. Caviness recounted, "I walked to my front door-about 30 feet over short grass-and I no longer had my house key, my car key, in my hand. I think I was taken and returned, minus my keys. These things are happening." After entering his home, he found a scar on his chest, a hole through his shirt. He claims, within hours, the scar was gone. snip Thanks to Jack Madison JMADISON@WWAYTV3.COM

Ohio 500 video tapes of UFOs



FOSTORIA – George Ritter recently took this video of a UFO over farm next door.



John E. Combest, Inspection Engineer who investigating Ritter's video images, “The attached sketch and notes addresses the mystery of why there are no lenticular disk-

-shaped craft evident in any of the over 550 frames examined to date - but it does not propose to have solved the mystery. The above images makes my point.



Unless there is some reason why all the disk-shaped craft in the area being photographed fly no higher than say 200 feet. altitude, there should be some views of disk-shaped craft at higher altitudes such as there seems to be of cylindrical, rectangular, and compact craft. If a disk is flying horizontally at low altitudes, then it would most likely be viewed edge-on, and would have the appearance commonly described as two pie-plates joined at their rims. But at increasingly higher altitudes of horizontal flight a disk-shaped craft when directly overhead would appear to be round. As it moves further away on a horizontal path, it would increasingly appear to be elliptical in shape with the elliptical shape
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 28th, 2005, 1:06pm

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Unless there is some reason why all the disk-shaped craft in the area being photographed fly no higher than say 200 feet. altitude, there should be some views of disk-shaped craft at higher altitudes such as there seems to be of cylindrical, rectangular, and compact craft. If a disk is flying horizontally at low altitudes, then it would most likely be viewed edge-on, and would have the appearance commonly described as two pie-plates joined at their rims. But at increasingly higher altitudes of horizontal flight a disk-shaped craft when directly overhead would appear to be round. As it moves further away on a horizontal path, it would increasingly appear to be elliptical in shape with the elliptical shape becoming more and narrower as the craft moves away.



I have identified 100 original frames as appearing to be "small" to "medium" sized disk-shaped craft, but they all seem to be at relatively low altitude, and all appear to be viewed edge-on. Logic says there ought to be at least a few views in which a disk at some higher altitude plainly has an elliptical shape - but so far there are NONE. Further, with regard to what seems to be disk-shaped craft - they ALL seem to be moving within about 5-degrees of horizontal flight, and NONE of them seem to have the high angle with the Earth's surface that many of the other shape craft seem to exhibit on occasion - including a few that are 90-degrees to the ground plane. More about this topic later. Thanks to John E. Combest, Inspection Engineer
jecombest@sbcglobal.net



Oklahoma flying soup can



MIDWEST CITY -- I was traveling north on Sunny Lane Road at 1 PM, and noticed a very white high altitude object almost overhead on September 17, 2005. It looked like a soup can and was stationary but very high. I viewed it through both my windshield and the sunroof. Tinker Air Force Base is a couple miles away, but this was clearly not a jet.



It did not float, move, flicker or change direction. At a traffic signal I was able to watch it for at least a full minute. It was cylinder shaped and just hovering. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Pennsylvania black tubular object flying



BELLEFONTE –At 10:30 AM, on September 30, 2005, the witness saw a tubular shaped object that looked like a flying black telephone pole in length and size. It was flying across Penn State near the airport and towards New York with several low flying planes flying close to the object.

Several witnesses reported it to the local 911 center, and the airport confirmed that something was in the air, but was not concerned. Later a similar looking object appeared again and pictures were taken with a digital camera. Police were also notified. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Washington flying triangle


TACOMA --On September 18, 2005, at 6 PM, my wife, mother in law and myself witnessed an object in the sky over Tacoma, it was a V or triangular shape and appeared to be at an altitude well over 4000 feet. For ten minutes it did not change position. Then it flew off at a medium pace under 400 mph for several miles. It was much too high to be a helicopter and since it was hovering for several minutes, it was not a plane, My mother in law thought it was a kite, but the distance it covered was much further than would have been possible for a kite. It held its altitude as it flew from west to east. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Wisconsin oval disk

PELICAN LAKE – The witness reports seeing a bright white oval shaped craft orbiting for about three hours on September 4, 2005. The disc was extraordinary and seemed to multiply like a pearl necklace in an upward fashion every in a counter-clockwise rotation, as if there were several rounded crafts coming out of it, then it went back in kind of like a slinky.



The large discs were amazing and one emitted a beam of light and their size was about 3/4 the size of the moon. They were very large and extremely fast, much faster than any airplane. The craft seemed to be circling. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Australia flying triangle



QUEENSLAND, ATHERTON TABLELANDS -- Ross writes, “A picture taken October 8, 2005, of a UFO circling around me in a broad circle that was silent, with all three lights pulsing strongly,” At no time did I go over 16 degrees zoom, a fixed aperture of +6, fixed/manual focus and no night enhancement /vision was on. Thanks to Ross



Bolivia images captured on video



ORURO -- An UFO flew over the skies on early morning of October 8, 2005, for an hour. It was recorded by Gustavo Ponce about 1:30 AM. He saw a yellowish light in the sky that drew his attention. "It was very strange and shiny when he saw it through his binoculars so he took out my camcorder to videotape the UFO.” I zoomed toward the object, and it broke down into a shape resembling a jellyfish.” It was very strange."



La Patria visited Ponce's home to see the images attesting to the fact that the shining object broke down into a full circumference, adopting the shape of a jellyfish. Translation (c) 2005. Scott Corrales, IHU.



Canada UFOs spotted



St. John’s Newfoundland -- Bob Butler writes, “Recently, while taking pictures with my digital camera at Signal Hill, I shot some moving lights. This photo is taken from across the harbor earlier. I'm sending all the pictures to get your opinion on the last one more so than the first three since I feel that a pick up truck that turned around behind me is responsible for the strange red lights. The camera was its tri-pod, and I was between the truck and the camera. Somehow it appears the taillights caused the anomaly similar to the recent LA picture that shows motion. I took the photos with the camera on a tri-pod so the object must have been moving. The last one however was taken a year prior in midday, and if you zoom in on the orb in the sky, it is, for sure, unidentifiable. Thanks to

bobbutler@hotmail.com



Mexico: security cameras record UFO


RAMOS ARIZPE, COAHUILA – The Vanguardia Newspaper reports, “A strange unidentified object that flew over the eastern part of this city on October 3, 2005, was recorded by the urban cameras of the Municipal Public Security's System. The 27-minute video was shown to the media by Homero Duran Flores, head of this government agency. "A phone call was received at 3 AM, from a citizen that lights that could be seen. The cameras were focused and picket up a perfectly visible disk," he explained. The image shown to the media clearly depicts a round object with a gray-colored ring and a black circle in its middle was rotating as it approached and withdrew.





We are startled by the magnitude of the object and the clarity of an object at altitude of one kilometer above the camera. Duran Flores said that the video, recorded between 03:07 and 03:34, is at the disposal of experts in the subject, since it is "without a doubt an important document, taking into consideration the clarity and sharpness of the images." The strange flying object startled witnesses by shifting shape says Prof. Ana Luisa Cid: "I believe, from my personal perspective, this video represents one the best items of UFO evidence in Mexico." Translation (c) 2005. Scott Corrales, IHU.



Mongolia UFO over

ULAANBAATAR -- On September 30, 2005, I was going to Internet cafe by bus a twenty minute ride from my home. I'm very interested in astronomy and was watching the sky at 19:35 hours. That thing was flashing a high intensity light, on and off during the daylight. I observed very carefully it was also ejecting some kind of dim smoke.

After two minutes, the UFO disappeared. I was checking its trajectory, and suddenly the UFO appeared again, this time UFO ejecting light flares, and now the light was off.

It was huge disk colored silver and two minutes later the UFO started to blink its light and suddenly disappeared. I called the local airport and the military RADAR control tower and asked if any planes were currently landing? They said, No. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



New Zealand light

CHRISTCHURCH – A strange light was seen in the north skies at 8 PM, on September 21, 2005. I noticed what I thought was a star while talking on my phone. When I looked back up at it, I realized it had moved quite far away. Looking closely I realized it had an orb like glow around it and was moving! Its movement was up and down and side to side and it was too high to be a plane.



There was also a light on the object that showed occasionally, which indicated the craft might be spinning in the sky. Later on, I went to look at it again and it had disappeared. A week later, I saw about the same thing with a helicopter and airplane circling the area where the light was. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Truk Island, Pacific Disk Landings



Micronesia – During the last few weeks, there have been reports of UFO landings and stayed on ground for four hours. Shipping noticed craft landing near the shore. Most heavy sightings continue along ring of fire.



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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
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What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by eagleyeuk on Oct 31st, 2005, 06:08am

keep it up timetraveler--- save us buying the book grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Adoro-Veritas on Oct 31st, 2005, 07:06am

Hi Timetraveler.
Everything you say here is very interesting and I have been inclined to get invloved with pursuing these topics that which are like yours. The saurian element is of significant importance as they were, as far as we know the first creatures that dominated and inhabited this planet. What you say about the dinosaurs being wiped out by ET's is tangible for me.
This is a wild guess but one I have thought about.
Do you think that the saurians have evolved to the point where they do not have the means to reproduce or otherwise lost their connection to their God-Line?
I mean maybe they cannot reproduce, naturally......? or are even trying to work out life themselves??
One thing that adds to my thoughts on this is, the way 'we' are evolving recently : Breast-cancer for women has become so abundant it is a crisis in many countries and testicular, and even cancer of the female reproductive system is following the same course......
Could it be that we are following their footsteps to a higher state of evolution/devolution, or could it be that they are helping the process along?
Also, what I think maybe interesting on this subject. I read somewhere, that we have part of our brain which is of reptillian manner. Yet, we are mammals. Wouldnt it be funny if the fact of it all is that we are in, metaphoric terms, more pure, or even advanced to our God-Line than they are. Maybe we are a twist or two 'better' than them in our DNA..........I ponder on that and think....... 'they are a cold blooded species' ' they maybe super-intelligent and advanced (been around longer), but they dont have 'feelings' like we do, 'experiences' like we do.............'fresh'.... 'new'....


Great thread btw

wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Oct 31st, 2005, 2:38pm

eagleyuk; Do you think that I am a fool for sharing portions of my book?

adoro-veritas; My new book is very controversal. I attempt in this book to simplify profound mysteries of Creator and creation. My regret is that when I post exerpts from the book it does not present the full narrative of the book.
I have no patience for man-made religions and I do not go to the "ignorant" teachers and sages and religious leaders for advice.

In order to understand my book you have to erase all of your early childhood teachings and knowledge and belief systems. Are you prepared to do that?

All of my 75 years I have searched for understanding. This is the most important thing to me.

You are correct when you theorize that the Saurians are less evolved than us spiritually. They are more advanced than us scientifically but it is my belief that we have a closer connection to the Creator. We are the, "Sons [seeds] of God", the, "Chosen Race".

Try to see the, "big picture" of the connection between the Angels of Light and the UFOs and us.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by blueyes on Oct 31st, 2005, 2:59pm

I don't think your being a fool, I think that in fairness I would be eager to share portions without sharing the whole thing, being filled with excitement. And if you ketch some who become interested, why not spend the money and purchase your book.

wow, just noticed my avatar change lol!

Deb
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Kan on Oct 31st, 2005, 3:08pm

on Oct 31st, 2005, 2:59pm, blueyes wrote:
wow, just noticed my avatar change lol!
Deb

Congrats....Blueyes grin
You have 999 posts....You are going to make 1000 posts Deb...please just write somenting..LOL...come on Deb grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Oct 31st, 2005, 8:16pm

Love the new avatar Deb! wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by blueyes on Oct 31st, 2005, 8:25pm

on Oct 31st, 2005, 8:16pm, creolelady wrote:
Love the new avatar Deb! wink

wink Thankyou wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by blueyes on Oct 31st, 2005, 8:26pm

Timetraveller, do we get a free copy grin kidding
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 8th, 2005, 08:33am

Congratulations blue eyes on your new Avatar status!!! Keep on posting!!! Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by eagleyeuk on Nov 8th, 2005, 08:56am

Timetraveler--- I do not think you be a fool in advertising your book or in fact be a free thinker-- for i am also in this vein--- future is so dependant on ourselves and how we use our minds for this is in the creation of our future--- i will say that to be free of conventionall thinking is very wise attitude for this places you in a cataguary of your own--- yes i would like to write-- but time is not available--- i hope you do well in your publication and understand my humour in the comment i made--- which is not insultive-- but an astute observation
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 10:08am

This is information which I received in 2004 via e-mail. When you read this you will understand why the hybrid race is necessary and why the "bad guys" have to be "shut down" in 2012.

The True Adventures of a Psychic Spy
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/psispy1.html
>
> Part 1 -
> Former military intelligence remote viewer David Morehouse shares his
> insights into accessing multi-dimensional reality, and reveals disturbing
> details on
> the downing of TWA Flight 800.
>
> Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 4, #5
> (August-September 1997).
> PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia.
> editor@nexusmagazine.com
> Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
> From our web page at: www.nexusmagazine.com
> ©1997 All Rights Reserved
> by Uri Dowbenko
> An Interview with David Morehouse
> Remote Viewing Technologies
> 64 Whitman Street, Suite 1A
> Carteret, NJ 07008, USA
> E-mail: dave@remviewtech.com
>
> INSIDE THE US MILITARY'S 'MIND WARS' PROGRAMS
> In a top-secret hidden location on a US Army base, men and women working
for
> the CIA prepare to "fall" into the fourth dimension. It's an all-grey
> room-walls, carpet, furniture, everything. Baroque music plays while they
> recline,
> relaxing, preparing to enter an altered state of consciousness.
>
> What they're about to do is access the time-space continuum in a technique
> known as "remote viewing". When the brain registers the theta-wave state
on
> the
> monitoring equipment, they are ready to "jump into the ether", in the
words
> of
> David Morehouse, author of Psychic Warrior: Inside the CIA's Stargate
> Program
> [see review, NEXUS 4/02].
>
> Science fiction? Not at all. This is advanced technology pioneered by
> esteemed scientists, laser physicists like Dr Targ and Dr Puthoff, at the
> Stanford
> Research Institute in the 1970s.
>
> More recently, the program was developed by the US Government's Central
> Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency
> (DIA).
> This top-secret psychic warfare program was called Project Scangate, then
> Operation Sun Streak, then Operation Stargate. Morehouse's controllers
> euphemistically described it as an "intelligence collection method".
>
> Bypassing internal bureaucratic and congressional oversight, they were
> called
> "Special Access Programs" or "SAPs"-a cellular approach to organisation,
> compartmentalising all activities which might put the Pentagon in a bad
> light as
> well as providing a rationale for "plausible denial".
>
>
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:10am

page2

MAPPING THE TIME-SPACE CONTINUUM
> The ability to access the "heaven" worlds and other dimensions has been
the
> gift of David Morehouse's life. Likewise, it has been his bane or curse.
> Why?
> Because he also has the ability to access what could accurately be called
> "hell": a netherworld containing the most sordid episodes in the history
of
> mankind.
>
> For example, as a training exercise, Morehouse was sent back to the Dachau
> death camps of Nazi Germany in the 1940s. Imagine what that was like.
> Morehouse
> had to live with the vivid memories and sense impressions of his
experience
> for months thereafter.
>
> So how does remote viewing work? How do you tap into the unconscious mind,
> the time-space continuum?
>
> According to David Morehouse, remote viewing is a description of
"...travel
> going from the physical dimension to the target, wherever it is in time
and
> space. If you're moving backward in time, if you're travelling through the
> ether,
> you're actually tying into the unconscious mind, so you're going backwards
> or
> forwards. I have always referred to it as the time-space continuum,
> essentially part of, or one and the same as, the ether."
>
> So is the ether the medium upon which you travel?
>
> "No. It's a misnomer," continues Morehouse. "You're not really travelling.
> It's like folding space. You are travelling, but you're not moving. Does
> that
> make sense?"
>
> Well, not really. Something is going somewhere, you would think.
>
> Morehouse again tries to explain. "If you have access to the unconscious
> mind, you have free range of the time-space continuum. It is tied into all
> humanity, or the whole universe, or perhaps other universes and other
> dimensions. At
> the same time, it has an individual aspect in that it is willing and
wanting
> a
> connection with the conscious mind."
>
> One of the biggest problems in communicating this experience seems to be
the
> relative inadequacy of language. In other words, how do you express 4D
> concepts, experiences and phenomena in 3D language? Obviously, a new
> nomenclature is
> needed which can a represent a reality that is beyond the box of ordinary
> three-dimensional consensus reality.
>
> So, then, what is the difference between an "altered" state and a
so-called
> "normal" state?
>
> "We're conversing in beta state," says Morehouse. "When you lie down
> tonight,
> you'll drop down into alpha. Then you'll drop into a theta-wave state. In
> theta-wave state, it appears that the conduits become open. It's called
the
> 'thought incubation state', a time when that 'limen' which separates the
> conscious
> mind from the unconscious mind becomes thinner. The 'limen' is just a word
> to
> describe a plane, or a separator or septum between states, but nobody
knows
> what the unconscious mind is.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:12am

page3

"The altered state is an extended theta-wave state, meaning the stage
where
> the limen becomes transparent," continues Morehouse. "Another way to
> describe
> it is that doors or conduits begin to open. The difficulty is not in
opening
> the conduits. That, in retrospect, becomes relatively easy. The difficulty

> is in
> teaching the conscious mind to translate, without analysis or data. The
> unconscious mind, playing the role of the individual self that is your
> personality,
> carries in data from the collective unconscious and begins to sling it in
> because it wants to establish a connection with the conscious mind to all
> sorts
> of data relevant to the time-space continuum."
>
> It sounds chaotic and random.
>
> "It is chaotic and it is random because the unconscious mind wants to
> establish this connection with the conscious mind," says Morehouse. "It's
> the
> conscious mind that focuses primarily downward into the physical. I've
found
> that the
> time-space continuum is a four-dimensional existence, whereas the
conscious
> mind is in a three-dimensional existence.
>
> "The four-dimensional world is something I can't even begin to describe.
> It's
> an omniscience, an omnipotence, an omnipresence, an all-seeing,
all-knowing
> existence. If you exist in a four-dimensional world, then you truly become
> godlike."
>
> Talking about these experiences becomes like grasping at the ungraspable.
>
> "We are all-you, I, my wife, my children, all of us-connected in the
> unconscious at a level we cannot see," says Morehouse, sounding more and
> more like a
> mystic. "When I was growing up, and I remember the times when I went to
> church,
> I would hear them talk about God as being in all places at all times,
> dwelling in your heart and watching over everyone; omniscient, omnipotent,
> omnipresent. How does that happen? I always wondered. It's impossible. It
> doesn't take
> place in the physical dimension. It takes place in the four-dimensional
> world."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:13am

page4

REMOTE VIEWING: A HOW-TO GUIDE
> So how do remote viewers access the fourth dimension?
>
> "The methodology-what we refer to as 'the cool-down process'-is any way
that
> you can get into the theta-wave state," says Morehouse. "We were taught to
> go
> into a place we called 'sanctuary'. It was a place where you would go to
> gather your bearings, to acclimate yourself. Each individual viewer
created
> his own
> sanctuary. For some viewers it was some sort of a garden, or a safe house,
> or
> a safe place.
>
> "For me, it was a transparent box in space," continues Morehouse. "In the
> total blackness of space, with stars all around. When I was in there,
> nothing
> could harm me."
>
> So what did you visualise in that box?
>
> "My conscious mind; what I projected out. I visualised it as an
apparitional
> self, a phantom self. It looked like a human form, only a light-radiance,
a
> transparent self. Then I would begin what I call the 'descent into the
> target
> area', and that became a nomenclature that was widely used throughout."
>
> And this is what was called "falling into the ether" or "jumping into the
> ether"?
>
> "I stepped out of sanctuary, and I stepped into a vortex," says Morehouse.
> "A
> tunnel of light would slowly begin to materialise as I prepared myself in
> the
> centre of the floor of sanctuary. And when I was ready, I would step into
> the
> vortex and I would fall. I accelerated faster and faster and faster and
> faster, until I hit some sort of a membrane. And then I would punch
through
> into
> the target area. I used to get vertigo often. I would fall head-first with
> my
> arms out, and I would accelerate until, 'Boom!', I would punch through."
>
> And what was happening in the grey room at this time?
>
> "They were monitoring bio-signs. They recorded your sessions. They were
> miked. They had low-light cameras. They videotaped your sessions. They
> wanted to
> know everything that was happening."
>
> And you could hold a conversation?
>
> "You could talk to them and they could talk to you," says Morehouse. "In
> coordinate remote-viewing, it was a very disciplined, structured regimen.
> You can
> be in a theta-wave state but you could be conscious. You could sketch on
> paper. You could write down your perceptions. You could answer questions
> from the
> monitor.
>
> "In extended remote viewing, you would begin the same way. Your task could
> be: 'Access the target and describe the event taking place.' But you have
> the
> encrypted coordinates. Most remote-viewing states last an hour or an hour
> and a
> half. Extended sessions last two to three hours."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:15am

page5

So what actually happened when Morehouse 'fell' into the ether; when he
was
> not 'in control', pulling off to the side of a road while driving, for
> example?
>
> "My analysis is that once you open the conduit, it's like trying to shut
the
> gates on a dam. There's always spillage. There's always something there
that
> never closes completely. I think there are a number of conduits that never
> close. When you're normally under control, you have the ability to
recognise
> what's happening and you can put it in check right away; then you're okay.
> Mel
> Riley [another remote viewer and a former colleague of Morehouse] was
> interviewed
> on television, and he said, 'I always have channels open. Always.'
>
> "A way to describe it is that a remote viewer always has one foot in the
> conscious matrix of the mind and one foot in the unconscious matrix, and
> what,
> where and how he perceives the world around him depends on what foot he
> stands.
> And you can jump from one foot to another and back again almost without
> knowing
> it. Mel was able to keep his balance better because he grew up with it.
His
> first experience with it was at age 11, so he grew up with it. So did Ingo
> Swann. I didn't start out with this ability. I didn't want this ability. A
> gunshot
> wound made this happen."
>
> And what can keep the conduits closed down?
>
> "There is a physiological remedy to this," says Morehouse. "It's called
> Haldol or Loxitane. We have lots of mental strait-jackets. Then you walk
> around in
> a cloud and you don't know your own name, but you don't have a
dissociative
> disorder. And you don't step into the ether unwillingly.
>
> "I think there are a lot of people who are diagnosed schizophrenic who
> essentially have conduits open into the unconscious. They have data
flowing
> at
> random without their having any input. Outwardly they hear voices. They're
> tapping
> into another dimension. God only knows."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:17am

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So how do hallucinogenic drugs relate to this phenomenon? After all,
taking
> drugs has been described as "taking heaven by force".
>
> "Chemical inducement of an altered state is, in my opinion, simply the
> chemical opening of conduits," says Morehouse. "The problem is that you
> never learn
> to do it on your own. You never learn anything from it because you never
> have
> any control while it's happening. You don't have the ability to master it.
> You're just on a joy ride. I think the mechanics are the same, though, and
> you
> just go on the magical mystery tour."
>
> THE HOLOGRAPHIC MODEL OF REALITY
> New models of reality have to be introduced in order to correlate the
> evidence gathered by remote viewing and other extraordinary phenomena.
>
> For instance, according to alternative science theoretician Bruce Cathie,
> "...a rough analogy of physical existence can be made by reference to a
> strip of
> motion picture film. Each frame or static picture on the film strip may be
> likened to a single pulse of physical existence. The division between one
> frame
> and the next represents a frame of anti-matter. When viewed as a complete
> strip, each frame would be seen as a static picture-say, one at either end
> of the
> strip-then the past and the future could be viewed simultaneously.
>
> "However, when the film is fed through a projector, we obtain the illusion
> of
> motion and the passage of time. The divisions between the static pictures
> are
> not detected by our senses because of the frequency or speed of each
> projection on the movie screen. But by speeding up or slowing down the
> projector, we
> can alter the apparent time rate of the action shown by the film..."
>
> In the 1970s, a radically new theory of consciousness was proposed by
> Stanford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram and University of London physicist
> David
> Bohm, a former protégé of Einstein and a world-renowned quantum physicist.
> Briefly
> stated, they came to the conclusion that the universe itself may be
> structured like a hologram-a kind of image or construct created at least
in
> part by the
> human mind.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:18am

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As described in Michael Talbot's book, The Holographic Universe, they
> considered another way of looking at the world: "Our brains mathematically
> construct
> objective reality by interpreting frequencies that are ultimately
> projections
> from another dimension, a deeper order of existence that is beyond time
and
> space. The brain is a hologram enfolded in a holographic universe."
>
> Talbot's book is an invaluable introduction to the paradigm. This model
also
> shows the interconnectedness of the so-called physical and metaphysical
> worlds, how various non-physical phenomena and states of consciousness,
> mystical
> states of awareness, out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences
can
> co-exist and interact with one another.
>
> Even prophecy or forecasting the future can be described using this model,
> vis-à-vis Puthoff's and Targ's precognitive remote-viewing experiments; in
> other
> words, "a view of the future as a hologram that is substantive enough for
us
> to perceive it but malleable enough to be susceptible to change". Ingo
Swann
> speaks of the future as "crystallising possibilities".
>
> Relating to Morehouse's description of accessing the fourth dimension
> through
> remote viewing, the late Itzhak Bentov, author of Stalking the Wild
> Pendulum,
> described the relationship between normal versus expanded states of
> consciousness as a constant "on-off" process in which time spent in our
> "solid"
> reality, as opposed to other realities, is like fine-tuning the frequency
> dial of
> consciousness.
>
> OTHER MODELS FOR EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION
> Morehouse's description of remote viewing also correlates to the Sanskrit
> term siddhis, or powers, which include clairaudience, clairvoyance, even
> precipitation of matter from the ethers. Christians have called them the
> "gifts of the
> Holy Spirit"-spiritual gifts given by the grace of God.
>
> "Yes, I don't disagree," he says. "It's a gift, but by the same token I
> think
> there must be a reason why we're not born with it."
>
> Some Christians disagree with his advocacy of teaching remote-viewing
> techniques. "Their position is that I'm teaching the black arts, and we
> shouldn't be
> doing this type of thing," says Morehouse. "I don't disagree that there is
a
> dark side to this, but in the coming millennium we are eventually going to
> be
> in somewhat dire straits. We are going to be confronted with very
difficult
> choices. If you knew that people with you are good people, would you not
> want
> them to be counted as warriors who serve God with you? Would you not want
> them to
> be armed with these powers?"
>
> So do other so-called extrasensory powers like clairvoyance or telepathy
> come
> with this ability for remote viewing?
>
> Morehouse replies that "...what happens is that these are all words which
> describe the perceptions of individuals who have conduits open. The
hardest
> thing
> is for the conscious mind to develop this ability. It's a learned or
> practised thing to interpret the data presented to it by the unconscious
> mind. As the
> unconscious mind travels backwards and forwards on the time-space
continuum,
> it throws back raw data without analysis. It wants to develop a dialogue,
> but
> the dialogue development has to come from the conscious mind. We have to
> consciously interpret, not analyse, what we're given by the unconscious
> mind. It's
> learning how to live with that still, small voice within yourself and
> learning
> to interpret it correctly."
>

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:20am

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And what is that "still, small voice"? Is it the voice of God? Or the
voice
> of the Holy Spirit?
>
> "You have to learn how to interpret it, how to speak that language," says
> Morehouse. "Your conscious mind can very successfully shut out the Holy
> Spirit."
>
> This could be what the Christians call "carnal mind", the rational logical
> mind that breaches no intuitive sensitivity.
>
> And what is the difference between out-of-body experiences and
> remote-viewing
> techniques?
>
> "We tried to do an out-of-body experience," says Morehouse. "There was
> actually experimentation done in developing protocols in developing OOBE
> remote
> viewing. Remote viewing is just opening conduits, and out-of-body is an
> actual
> separation of the spiritual body from the physical body. And this did not
> take
> place in the remote viewing.
>
> "When you tear the spiritual body from the physical, what does that mean?
> It's harmful. That means that you leave the physical body open, allowing
> inhabitation by whatever else that wants to step in because the spiritual
> body is now
> gone. We're not talking about levels of consciousness. We're talking about
> spiritual separation. The spiritual body roams around and it's not under
> control.
> It's like a balloon floating in a hot breeze. It goes wherever the breeze
> will carry it, and God only knows what makes up that breeze."
>
> What about the idea that this spiritual body is the responsibility of
every
> individual, that karma can be made and destructive things can be done
> because
> the body is not in control?
>
> "I agree wholeheartedly with that," says Morehouse. "In fact, I know that
> it's true. The physical body is never left in remote viewing. There is
> always
> contact, but the physical body begins to manifest the physiological signs
of
> what
> the projected consciousness is experiencing in the target area."
>
> So what is the term for this projection of consciousness into the target
> area
> if it isn't a body?
>
> Morehouse says, "Its called bilocation. It's folding space, folding time
and
> space. It's like bringing the event to you without ever going to the
event,
> if
> you tap into it. It's omnipresent while traversing back and forth on the
> time-space continuum. What does it mean? It means you're everywhere at the
> same
> time. So the only way you can be everywhere at the same time is because
> everywhere is where you are. So, folding space is the best analogy I can
> think of-like
> an accordion that folds in on itself, where you don't move. I was taught
to
> believe that it was like the pages of a book, of an encyclopaedia. There
are
> planes that are separated, yet they're connected by the spine of the book.
> The
> spine of the book corresponds to the unconscious."
>
> REALITY (TIME) BITES
> In his book, Psychic Warrior, Morehouse wrote that "the past was locked
and
> the future was an untethered fire hose rocking and swaying, constantly
> changing".
>
> So can past time be changed to affect future time?
>
> "If you went back to look at it, it's like pulling up that event like a
> slide
> and stepping into it, reliving it. You are there in apparitional form, but
> you aren't really there at all. What you are experiencing there is the
> temperature, the sound, the sights, the smells. Plus you take it a step
> further in the
> unconscious mind on all the intangibles, the aesthetic impact, the
emotional
> impact. You feel the pain of the people. You feel all things. Why? Because
> you
> are looking at it from a four-dimensional perspective, and translating it
as
> quickly as the mind can operate, back to the conscious mind, puts it into
> physical terms. So you're experiencing it and it can take a definite toll
on
> you.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:22am

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"For instance, go to 1945 and step into Ground Zero Hiroshima. You can
pull
> that event up and step into it, and all the torment of souls being torn
from
> their bodies, all of the horror relevant to that event lives on. You can
> step
> back there and experience it."
>
> So this is a record that remains forever and ever?
>
> "The past remains, but it's locked in that part of the time-space
> continuum,"
> explains Morehouse. "You can step in and experience it, but you couldn't
go
> and kick someone in the shins, so that Adolf Hitler stumbles off the
> platform
> and breaks his neck. You can't affect anything. You can't do anything
there
> except be there and observe and gather information."
>
> ACCESSING THE COSMIC MEMORY BANK
> This is where physics and metaphysics collide. Morehouse's description of
> remote viewing sounds very similar to accessing what has been called the
> "akashic
> records". Akasha is a Sanskrit word which means "primordial substance".
>
> According to Supermemory authors Ostrander and Schroeder, "...this cosmic
> databank of the totality of universal happenings was conceptualised as
being
> recorded on a 'subtle ether', a kind of invisible, all-pervading medium
> through
> which 'kasha', or the visible light, passes throughout space as a
> manifestation
> of vibration."
>
> In other words, like a 4D cosmic camcorder, the holographic record of each
> instant on the time-space continuum is captured and held there forever.
>
> A book titled The Human Aura carries a very apt description of this
> phenomenon which clearly resonates with Morehouse's descriptions:
>
> "It is of utmost importance that the student understand that there is a
> process whereby every observation of his five senses is transmitted
> automatically
> to subconscious levels within himself, where, by inner hieroglyph, events
he
> has witnessed or matters which he has studied are recorded; thus the
entire
> transmittal of data from the external world to the internal lies in the
> akashic
> records of his own being.
>
> "The process of recall, while quite involved from a technical standpoint,
is
> almost instantaneous. Out of the storehouse of memory, man quite easily
> calls
> forth these treasures of being. Unfortunately, not all events are benign;
> not
> all recordings are examples of perfection."
>
> Akashic records, then, describe "...all that transpires in matter is
> recorded
> in akasha-etheric energy vibrating at a certain frequency so as to absorb,
> or
> record, all of the impressions of life."
>
> Here's another definition of akashic records: "...the recordings of all
that
> has taken place in an individual's world are written by recording angels
> upon
> a substance and dimension known as akasha."
>
> "Akasha is a primary substance; the subtlest, supersensuous, ethereal
> substance which fills the whole of space; energy vibrating at a certain
> frequency so
> as to absorb, or record, all of the impressions of life. These recordings
> can
> be read by those whose soul faculties are developed."
>
> Edgar Cayce, "the Sleeping Prophet", is said to have contacted these
records
> when he went in his "sleep" to bring back astonishingly precise
information
> about the past, including historical details relating to people and events
> during the time of Jesus, for example.
>
> Cayce's work also delivered specific prescriptions for diseases as well as
> the reasons why. Authors Ostrander and Schroeder write that Cayce's
amazing
> gift
> "...overshadowed the arresting fact that he could so easily dip into an
> unseen information bank and bring back provable data."
>
> It would also stand to reason that details of historical events could be
> accessed in an attempt to discover what really happened-especially in
events
> of
> criminal conspiracy, negligence and subsequent cover-up.
>
> Like, for example, what really happened to TWA Flight 800...
>
> TWA FLIGHT 800: TARGET PRACTICE GONE WRONG
> "It was like turning a 747 into a microwave oven."
>
> That's how David Morehouse explained what happened to TWA Flight 800,
after
> he delivered a remote-viewing report for CBS News-a report which was never
> aired.
>
> "We originally started at the request of a producer at CBS to work in
> consonance with them to investigate the downing of Flight 800," explains
> Morehouse.
>
> "We used a team of six remote viewers. After having gone back in time and
> looked at the event, five of them did not say that a missile struck the
> aircraft,
> but said that it was an energy beam or a light beam and that the aircraft
> exploded. It was a light beam that could not be seen by the human eye. It
> was
> high-powered microwaves.
>
> "We did a 32-page report for CBS on it; a lengthy investigation. We used a
> law enforcement liaison officer who was a retired US city cop. I was
dealing
> with Ph.D.s who owned patents on fibre optic cables.
>
> "It goes right back to the CBW thing in the Gulf War [the cover-up of
> chemical/biological warfare by the Pentagon]. The first thing that came
out
> of the
> Navy was, 'We had no exercise going on, none whatsoever.' I saw the
message
> from
> the Department of the Navy to the FAA [Federal Aviation Administration]
that
> said that from this time to this time-which was a time window that
included
> the departure time of Flight 800-there was an exercise going on.
>
> "The microwave that we think did it was built by Phillips Laboratories.
It's
> about the size of a Ryder truck, a moving truck about that size, which
> produces 1.4 gigawatts, a billion watts of power in a concentrated stream
of
> electrons that are guided by a self-generated electromagnetic field. The
> footprint of
> this particular weapon can be anywhere. They can tweak it up or down. They
> can
> crank it down to a footprint the size of a basketball. They can expand it
> out
> to a footprint the size of a football field. Of course, the more you
> disperse
> the electrons, the less effective the beam is, but it's still pretty nasty
> stuff."
>
> Morehouse, of course, had to deal with the usual denial. "The executives
at
> CBS said, 'We don't have anything that has that kind of range.' It's like
> the
> Ph.D. who installed microwave dishes around New York and New Jersey who
told
> us
> that when the guys working on the Empire State Building go out on a
platform
> to change the lights for Christmas, they wear flash bulbs in their
pockets.
> The reason is because of the microwave energy from all the dishes and
power
> mounted on the building. When they get closer than they're supposed to be,
> it pops
> the flash bulbs. That's how much ambient radiant energy is coming out of
> those dishes. If you were to stick a frozen chicken on the end of a
> fibreglass
> pole and stick it in front of a microwave dish, faster than you could
blink
> your
> eye it would be charred black.
>
> "Because of all the microwave dishes, the building next to the World Trade
> Center had the top 20 floors surfaced with a special film coating on the
> windows
> to reflect the microwave energy. All the employees in the building were
> complaining of ringing in the ears and headaches.
>
> "We went through this analysis. We looked at the message traffic. There
are
> seven military operational or warning areas off the coast of Long Island.
Of
> those military operational areas, three out of four of them were active.
> They
> were joined together into an operational area that was code-named 'Tango
> Billy'
> by the Department of the Navy. This was an open-source message-the Navy
just
> informing the FAA that these warning areas are off the coast. When those
> warning areas are active, the Navy tells the FAA. The FAA establishes what
> is called
> 'Flight Corridor Betty'.
>
> "I interviewed at least a half-dozen TWA pilots who said, 'Yes, that's
> right;
> I've flown Betty many times.' They go to a VOR [VHF Omni-directional Radio> range] in New Jersey. They break a hard left and they fly an outbound
radial
> to
> pick up an inbound radial on the Nantucket VOR. They hit the Nantucket VOR
> and
> they break right and head for the European theatre. But they fly through
an
> invisible tunnel in the air called a 'flight corridor'. It's supposed to
be
> a
> safe corridor and they stack the aircraft in this corridor-aircraft going
> north-south, aircraft going south-north.
>
> "So Flight 800 was in Flight Corridor Betty. It was late. The FAA doesn't
> notify the Navy that 'We have aircraft late on takeoff' or anything else.
> There
> was also the USS Normandie, 35 nautical miles away from this area called
> Tango
> Billy, 10 or 15 miles off the coast of Long Island.
>
> "There is also Brookhaven National Labs which was formed in the early 20th
> century by Nikola Tesla. It's a miniature version of Los Alamos. There are
> people out there with Gamma clearances. There is a nuclear power plant and
> particle
> colliders there. The Governor of New York is trying to close it down
because
> of all the radiation seepage into the water that is poisoning the people.
> It's
> supposed to have the highest cancer rate on the east coast.
>
> "And there is also a top-secret naval weapons testing facility adjacent to
> Brookhaven National Labs. They share the fence-line. This is a naval
> facility
> that is completely sterile; an airfield with no airplanes because
> everything's
> locked up in the hangars. At night they roll them out and test them and do
> whatever they do.
>
> "From this facility they were trying to shoot out over the water into

Tango
> Billy and, with a high-powered microwave weapon, kill a test drone
Tomahawk
> missile that was fired from the deck of the USS Normandie. When that
missile
> fired off, which was what everybod
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saw,they saw a drone climb, level off
> and
> head for Tango Billy.
>
> "But what happened was the drone missile climbed and put Flight 800
between
> it and the gun. TWA Flight 800 was in the gun target line.
>
> "When you're testing weapons, it's an automated target acquisition device
> or,
> worse yet, manually acquired and fired.
>
> "So you have some dork, and he looks at a bleep on the radar screen,
knowing
> that he just got 'Launch!' over from the USS Normandie. He see that bleep
> which is now really two bleeps-the Tomahawk missile and Flight 800. He
> presses a
> button that fires a high-powered microwave weapon.
>
> "We presented all the evidence and the facts. We had satellite imagery
that
> was purchased from the French. We had autopsy data from the French,
> testimony
> from Suffolk County medical examiners where guys had inadvertently
revealed
> the
> fact that they had seen a flight attendant who had a piece of metal fused
to
> her back. That doesn't come from an explosion; that comes from a
high-energy
> microwave beam that superheats metal and burns it into human tissue. It
> fuses
> it. It was cutting open cranial cavities; it was removing brains; it was
> dishing out eyes. It was doing all that stuff because a microwave beam on
> humans
> takes out all the ocular neural networks first. It fries the brain and
fries
> the
> eyes; it hits the spinal fluid, the blood and the marrow. It boils the
> blood.
> It actually gels the blood. This sounds very gruesome, but it happens so
> fast
> that the brain doesn't even have time to register pain. You're dead
> instantly.
>
> "Did it hit everybody in that plane? No. What it did, we think, was that
it
> hit centre of mass, which would have been under the left wing, directly
into
> the fuel tank in the belly of this thing, right near the galley. What it
did
> was
> it fried all the analog circuitry in this aircraft because high-powered
> microwave weapons have an electromagnetic pulse effect, which means that
> they blow
> up solid-state circuitry. Everything inside this 747 that was run in the
> cockpit was all fed by analog circuitry, so all the digital readouts in
the
> cockpit
> were frozen in time. And that's why the black boxes which were recovered
had
> no readings whatsoever. All the readings were eliminated, so it's just
like
> zeroing it out. That's why they didn't come back with anything on the
black
> boxes. There was just white noise.
>
>
>
>


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Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:27am

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Part 2 -
> Former military intelligence remote viewer David Morehouse continues his
> extradimensional insights, and exposes the US Government's cover-up of
Gulf
> War
> crime.
>
> No ordinary whistleblower, David Morehouse, author of Psychic Warrior:
> Inside
> the CIA's Stargate Program, is an accomplished military professional with
a
> distinguished service record. A highly decorated and respected
> third-generation
> Army officer, Morehouse holds an M.A. degree in military art and science,
as
> well as a Ph.D. from LaSalle University.
>
> Commissioned as an infantry Second Lieutenant, he went from officer school
> to
> Panama, where he was a platoon leader and attained the rank of Major.
After
> spending time in the Army Rangers, he left in 1987 for a series of highly
> classified special access programs (SAPs) in the US Army Intelligence
> Support
> Command (INSCOM).
>
> While in Jordan on a routine training operation, Morehouse was
accidentally
> shot in the head-or, more accurately, in the helmet. His extrasensory
> abilities
> were opened up, and this seemed to precipitate recurrent episodes that
could
> be called "psychic". He then became a prime candidate for induction into
the
> top-secret Operation Stargate, a joint DIA/CIA program at Fort Meade which
> utilised "remote viewing" as an "intelligence" operation.
>
> During his military career, Morehouse won numerous meritorious service and
> commendation medals, as well as paratrooper wings from six foreign
> countries.
> After he left the remote-viewing program in 1991 he was assigned as
> Battalion
> Executive Officer to the 2nd Battalion, 5065th Parachute Infantry Regiment
> of
> the 82nd Airborne Division.
>
> Soon after, Morehouse decided to expose the Stargate operation and its
> technology with the hope that the potential beneficial and peaceful uses
> could be
> brought to the public. However, Morehouse soon realised that getting out
of
> a
> covert operation is not as easy as getting in. In fact, getting out alive
> became
> his ultimate survival exercise.
>
> What happened? In order to discredit him and his exposé, the Army tried to
> court-martial him on trumped-up charges. In December 1994 Morehouse
resigned
> his
> commission.
>
> THE LIFE OF A WHISTLEBLOWER
> So what happens to whistleblowers in the US Government?
>
> In the case of David Morehouse, false charges were filed against him. The
> tyres on his car were "cut to blow", slashed to cause a crash at freeway
> speed.
> He and his family were harassed by anonymous phone calls, and phone
> conversations were bugged. His house was filled with gas and almost blew
up;
> his daughter
> nearly perished from the fumes. Morehouse's real-life story takes another
> weird turn, as he describes it in his own words:
>
> "When I was in the hospital I had a call from a woman doctor thanking me
for
> coming into her life. She said that because of me she was forced to leave
> government service, but now she's happy for it. This is a woman doctor who
> had 18
> years in the service.
>
> "They ordered her to diagnose me as a paranoid schizophrenic and
delusional.
> She refused to do it. 'Then diagnose him as a malingerer,' they told her.
> She
> refused. She was a tenacious psychiatrist, the head of the ward.
>
> "She stood there the day they strapped me to a gurney and put me in a
plane
> that took me six hours away from my family, down to Fort Bragg where I sat
> in a
> facility which was for alcohol abuse. So I had to go to alcohol abuse
> classes
> though I wasn't an alcohol abuser, and I was given a dixie cup of
medication
> twice a day to keep me quiet and dumb.
>
> "They finally removed me from my support group. They took me away from my
> family because now, instead of my wife driving 15 minutes to come to the
> hospital, I was in Fort Bragg, North Carolina. They would dress me up,
drug
> me and
> take me drugged into the courtroom for Article 805 hearings, where I would
> stand
> up and almost fall over. I couldn't even hear. It was like standing in an
> empty water tank and hearing people talk. And they made me endure that.
> Their
> final coup de grâce was that they discharged me and required me to write
the
> Family Caring Manual."
>
> Then an orchestrated campaign to discredit Morehouse was started, with
> anonymous letters being written to the book publisher and the movie
> production
> company that bought the rights to his book, Psychic Warrior.

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CIA HARASSMENT AND DISINFORMATION
> After his decision to go public, David Morehouse was subjected to plenty
of
> CIA harassment and character assassination. He says that one of the
primary
> character assassins was a man by the name of John Alexander, the subject
of
> a
> glowing report in Wired magazine in 1995.
>
> "Depending on who you talked to, John Alexander was, early in his career,
a
> Special Forces officer in Vietnam," says Morehouse. "He commanded a
> Montagnard
> battalion which essentially meant he advised them. Somebody else would say
> he
> was a member of the Phoenix project in Vietnam [the notorious CIA> assassination program].
>
> "When he came out, he worked with the intelligence community and he never
> left. So this is an SF guy who went intel and never went back. You have a
> guy
> who's been connected with the Company [the CIA] for a great deal of time.
>
> "I met him through Ed Dames who was his friend. John Alexander used to
meet
> with Ed Dames in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Ed Dames was convinced that there
> were
> aliens underground in New Mexico. And so began an abuse of tax
> dollars-buying
> plane tickets to Albuquerque whenever he wanted.
>
> "Ed Dames was part of Torn Image and he would fly out there. He would meet
> with John Alexander who would hand him a photograph and try to do some
> remote
> viewing.
>
> "With the exception of Jim Schnabel and Ed Dames, John Alexander has no
> friends in the remote-viewing community. Most think he's a shyster except
> for guys
> like Russell Targ and Hal Puthoff, who are still drawing government
> paychecks.
> They were both laser physicists, the original takers of Central
Intelligence
> Agency money to work for remote-viewing projects.
>
> "Three guys accessed the Freedom of Information Act before my book came
out:
> John Alexander, the retired Colonel still working for the CIA, Jim
Schnabel
> and Joe McMoneagle. Except for Joe, they actively went after me. They
posted
> my
> name and Social Security number on the Internet. They publicly called me a
> criminal, taking unsubstantiated allegations from the government and
posting
> it
> on the Internet."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:30am

page13

Have they done this to anybody else?
>
> "Never," says Morehouse.
>
> MILITARY INTELLIGENCE: AN OXYMORON
> "There are reams and reams of documents that show that this [RV]
phenomenon
> exists," says Morehouse. "A great deal of it is classified. Ed May claims
> that
> he has it all. He's a physicist who heads up the Cognitive Sciences
Research
> Laboratories. It's a research facility for remote viewing and other
> paranormal
> phenomena that deal with the mind. He claims he's not on the government
> payroll, but he still carries a top-secret clearance."
>
> Continuing the CIA-orchestrated harassment, Ed May brandished documents at
> Morehouse prior to a talkshow on which they would both appear. He
threatened
> Morehouse against reopening his court-martial case, saying that they'd
take
> him
> to Federal court and prosecute him for violating his security.
>
> May also allegedly told Morehouse, "There are people out there that can
get
> to you."
>
> "Such is the case with all these guys: Jim Schnabel, John Alexander and Ed
> May," says Morehouse. "Ed May works for the CIA. He told the Gordon
Elliott
> show
> that he was the owner of the military remote-viewing training program. I
> never saw this guy or heard of his name while I was working there."
>
> A BATTLE OF NERVES
> So why did it get so personal?
>
> "You have a credible third-generation Army officer whom superior officers
> labelled as 'destined to wear stars', someone who came out of a Ranger
> battalion
> and stepped into the intelligence community," says Morehouse referring of
> course to himself.
>
> To undermine his credibility?
>
> "Yes, fabricating stories about me and my wife, for instance," continues
> Morehouse. "There isn't an author around who spends days, literally days,
> posting
> user groups. There were hundreds of postings made by Schnabel. Then John
> Alexander got into the fray and started doing the same thing. Then they
> started
> writing anonymous letters to Interscope, which bought movie rights to the
> book,
> and St Martin's Press, the publisher.
>
> "And then there's Paul Smith. He actually said this to a reporter: 'What I
> told Dave is that if he would stop talking about the unit, we would get
him
> a
> medical discharge.' Paul Smith was one of the remote viewers from the unit
> still
> working for DIA."
> So why did it take so long for Morehouse to resign?
>
> "I thought I was going to face the charges and beat them," he says. "We
> looked at everything the government had. I didn't know we would be
ambushed
> with
> the other charges. That's when I got the phone call that came at night,
from
> a
> brigadier colonel friend of mine who said, 'You still have friends. We're
> holding the door open, but we can't hold it open forever. This is bigger
> than us.
> You better get out.'
>
> "That was the first clue that I had about their scheme. I had nobody that
> investigated on my behalf. I had the entire Criminal Investigation
Division
> coming down on me. They looked at every fragment of my past. They
> interviewed every
> person they could find who knew me. Why? Because I was getting ready to
tell
> a story about a top-secret government organisation."
>

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:37pm

page14

REMOTE-VIEWING THE ARK OF THE COVENANT
> Psychic Warrior details many of Morehouse's encounters with legendary and
> historical events. For example, when he describes remote viewing the Ark
of
> the
> Covenant, he calls the relic itself a "dimensional opening".
>
> "When I came out I explained what I had seen to the program director,"
says
> Morehouse. "He told me the theological background behind the Ark of the
> Covenant. My friend Mel told me that it was a part of the Temple in the
> wilderness
> that was carried around by the Israelites. They put the Ark of the
Covenant
> in
> the inner sanctum of the Holy of Holies. Those who went into the inner
> sanctuary, the high priests, actually tied ropes on their ankles so they
> could be
> pulled back.
>
> "It was the conclusion of the remote-viewing community that this was in
fact
> a conductor or convector of some sort. It was something that channelled
> power
> to form some sort of a portal or opening into a four-dimensional world
which
> is where the Creator dwelt. The high priest was stepping through the
portal
> into this four-dimensional world."
>
> LARGER THAN LIFE ITSELF
> And what about free roaming in the fourth dimension?
>
> "That was an open search, where you were told to go where the signal line
> took you. That was analogous to standing on a platform at Penn Station in
> Manhattan and jumping at whatever train was rumbling by, and going where
> that train
> was going. You don't know where you're going to go or where you're going
to
> end
> up. Sometimes it's very frightening; sometimes it's instructional;
sometimes
> it's just fun."
>
> So has Morehouse seen anything of significance?
>
> "Just the realisation that we are not alone," he says. "I never saw God or
> Christ or Buddha. But I can tell you that there are other worlds and other
> civilisations and planets. It's all out there-other dimensions. It's not
> just what
> exists in our physical dimension, in our physical universe. There are
other
> portals that lead to other universes and there are universes upon
universes.
> It's limitless, infinite. It's staggering!"

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:39pm

page15

There is a common misperception that remote viewing entails out-of-body or
> astral travel.
>
> "We were trying to develop OBE-RV, out-of-body remote viewing," says
> Morehouse. "What we found was that we lacked the ability to make the
> separation occur
> at will and control the separated body.
>
> "Remote viewing was not based on the work of Robert Monroe. It was based
on
> a
> very disciplined protocol developed at SRI in part by the direction of
Ingo
> Swann, Pat Price and Uri Geller. Uri Geller was heavily involved in
> developing
> these protocols at SRI. He has not ever really gotten credit for it. He
was
> probably the best natural that they had there, in my opinion."
>
> If this gift comes from God, then who's trying to control it and use it
for
> negative purposes, i.e., the abuse of it by the military and intelligence
> agencies?
>
> "I struggle with that question every day," says Morehouse. "I don't know
if
> the military-industrial complex is doing this out of pure ignorance-if
> they're
> stumbling about it like a bull in a china shop out of pure ignorance-or
> whether they do it out of some deep-rooted, sinister backdrop or
foundation
> that
> makes them want to be able to use this to manipulate humanity.
>
> "The only evidence I have is that I know that there is some enigma out
> there.
> I know that there is something that is larger than life itself that
> dominates
> and controls. So if I find the answers, I'll talk about it because that's
my
> calling..."
>
> ENLIGHTENING ENCOUNTERS
> Did Morehouse ever encounter what could be called "enlightened beings"?
>
> "I had my experiences with what I call my 'angel'. I also experienced
beings
> from other worlds that had the Christ consciousness. I never saw Jesus
> Christ
> or Buddha. They were very benevolent, loving, enlightened, radiant
> individuals. While standing in their presence, you felt nothing but the
> presence of good
> and a warmth. They would recognise or acknowledge your presence, but they
> would never interact with you. They never guided you or directed you.
>
> "The monitor would say: 'Approach them; attempt to engage them in
> conversation; ask them a question; ask them who they are.' They would
> politely smile and
> walk away. They recognised us as intruders, yet harmless.
>
> "This angel watched over my father, and it was my father who told my wife,
> 'I've given David my angel.' My father had never spoken to me about this
> before."
>
> DEMONS FROM THE FOURTH DIMENSION
> Were there any occasions when Morehouse felt threatened, or thought he was
> going to die?
>
> "I felt that on several occasions when I encountered what I call lesser
> beings or demons," replied Morehouse. "They're people who look just like
us.
> They
> are very friendly and they smile. They want to engage you in conversation,
> but
> the instant you realise what they are they attack you. In an incident
> described in the book, I was held upside down by my ankles and I thought
> they were
> going to kill me. They clutched at me and pulled me back in the circle. I
> was
> screaming at the top of my lungs.
>
> "The next thing I remember, the monitor who was watching me was talking me
> back, bringing me back to the physical, but I feared for my life. I think
> there
> was a real danger in this attack at a fourth-dimensional level. They know
> what
> frightens you; they amplify your fears. I think there are elements of the
> dark side that exist for the express purpose of attempting to inhabit the
> physical. They want to possess the physical body, to take you over for a
> brief period
> of time."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:40pm

page16

THE MEDIUM IS NOT THE MESSAGE
> So how about channelling? Does that mean that entities can possess
physical
> beings?
>
> "Any channeller-for example, J. Z. Knight will tell you that Ramtha
> possesses
> her physical body," says Morehouse. "On the other hand, if you're a medium
> you have the ability to listen across the limen and translate the message.
>
> REMOTE-VIEWING GULF WAR CRIMES
> One of the most dramatic and shocking episodes in Psychic Warrior is a
> remote-viewing 'mission' that Morehouse did near the end of the Persian
Gulf
> War. At
> that time, three independent remote viewers, including Morehouse, were
> 'sent'
> to the Gulf.
>
> Morehouse himself got an order to move to a 550-foot elevation, 20 miles
> north of where he'd 'landed'. About an hour later, admidst the intense
smoke
> and
> fires near the oil wells, Morehouse spots "a small silver object in the
> sand"
> and remarks, "...I think I see something unusual-a small canister; looks
> like
> stainless steel."
>
> Morehouse writes: "Suddenly it all seemed clear to me. The DIA wanted to
> make
> sure that a chemical or biological agent had been released on US troops
but
> they didn't want anyone else to know... Once the use of these
unconventional
> weapons had been confirmed, the DIA could start their cover-up so the
> American
> people would never find out."
>
> Historian Antony Sutton, author of America's Secret Establishment and The
> Best Enemy Money Can Buy, writes in his monthly newsletter, Phoenix
Letter:
> "...one needs to read these pages [of Morehouse's book] carefully. It
looks
> as if
> DIA knew where the canisters were to be planted. This confirms the report
> that
> CBW [chemical/biological warfare] was a joint US-Iraqi operation aimed at
US
> troops."
>
> Sutton also points out: "...not only did the Iraqis use
chemical/biological
> warfare agents on US and allied troops, but the equipment was supplied
with
> the
> knowledge, assistance and financing of the West.
>
> "What the Pentagon is covering up is that CBW agents were legally exported
> to
> Iraq by the Bush Administration. The licence was granted by the Department
> of
> Commerce for anthrax and an agent called Mycoplasma incognitas. Mycoplasma
> was made in Florida and Texas and tested on death-row inmates in Texas.
This
> was
> reported to the press by Senator Donald Riegle of Michigan and ignored by
> CNN
> and the other networks (February 9, 1994)."
>
> Morehouse agrees. "I found early on that you can't trust the network media
> in
> the United States to present truth. They're part of the problem because
> they're owned by defence contractors for a reason-which is that the US$900
> billion
> global defence industry is going to control that which can do them the
most
> damage. They know that the media can sink them, so what do they do? They
own
> the
> media."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:42pm

page17

Sutton continues his analysis by concluding: "...the scandal and cover-up
is
> that the supply of CBW weapons to Iraq implicated the Bush Administration,
> much as Prescott Bush, father of George Bush, was implicated through Union
> Bank
> in the build-up of Hitler in the 1930s." Like father. Like son. Like
> traitors.
>
> GOVERNMENT COVER-UP OF GULF WAR CRIMES
> Antony Sutton asks: "Why the cover-up? Morehouse believes that the US
> Government did not want to take care of thousands of military casualties.
We
> suggest
> another reason. We have a report that the US allowed export of these
agents
> to
> Iraq knowingly, and even some members in the government had investments in
> the firm making these for Iraq.
>
> "Recall that no credible enemies are left for the military industrial
> complex
> which General Eisenhower warned us about to use as a claim for large
defense
> expenditures. Then the entire picture comes together... Then you see why
> Psychic Warrior is a key piece in the puzzle back of Desert Storm. An
> artificial
> war against an artificial enemy. Why? Because you can't have a defense
> budget
> unless you have a credible enemy. If no enemy exists, you make one."
>
> Rodney Stich confirms these allegations in his monumental encyclopaedia of
> US
> Government crimes and cover-ups, titled Defrauding America. He writes in
> great detail (an entire chapter, titled "Bank of Lavoro and Iraqgate")
> regarding
> the scandal in which the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro (BNL), through its
> Atlanta
> branch, was used to lend over US $5 billion to Iraq just prior to the Gulf
> War.
>
> Stich writes: "...in November 1989, White House officials guaranteed the
> payment of loans made by banks to Iraq for the purchase of US farm
products
> under
> a program run by the US Agriculture Department's Commodity Credit
> Corporation.
> The approval provided that US taxpayers would indemnify the banks lending
> money to Iraq for the purchase of US food supplies if Iraq defaulted on
the
> loan
> payments...
>
> "These loans made possible the war capability for Iraq to invade Kuwait.
In
> effect the US taxpayers, through their leaders, made possible the terrible
> bloodshed in the Gulf War... Some of the money furnished by the United
> States was
> used to purchase poison gas that was used on Iraqi Kurdish villages, much
of
> it purchased through Cardoen Industries in Chile, a CIA asset. Cardoen
> supplied
> considerable war materials to Iraq under the guidance of the CIA."
>
> Regarding the Gulf War oil-well fires, Morehouse writes: "...every soldier
> downwind of those fires must have inhaled the bug or whatever."
>
> The implications are clear. The so-called Gulf War syndrome (GWS) is a
> direct
> result of this exposure. The Department of Defense (DoD) knew about it and
> remains liable for the thousands of cases of veterans contaminated by this
> chemical/biological warfare.
>
> And what does Morehouse think about it now?
>
> "I think about it every day," he says, his voice dropping. "We know that
we
> were being manipulated to (1) being able to confirm, but (2) not being
able
> to
> confirm it in any record where anyone could go back to it. They denied it.
> They said it never happened.
>
> "First they said there was something to it. Then we blew up one chemical
> dump. Then they said it was two chemical dumps. The problem is that the
> American
> people continue to forgive this sort of betrayal. They ignore it and
thereby
> forgive it, and so they set the stage for it to happen again.
>
> "They stood there, men who knew, and baldfaced lied to us and said it
never
> happened. General Powell went before Congress and fervently denied that he
> had
> any knowledge of it or that he had any evidence of it, which is again
> 'plausible denial' because nobody briefed him on it.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:43pm

page18

THE KING HIT AND THE FALL GUY
> Fall guy James Earl Ray was sentenced to life in prison for the killing of
> famed civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr.
> Ray's lawyer, William Pepper, author of Orders to Kill, will be presenting
> new evidence in court: remote-viewing data by David Morehouse on the
> assassination of the '60s-era icon.
>
> So who killed King?
>
> Morehouse says: "...these were contract yobbos, low-level CIA operatives
> that
> did it. They were US Special Forces, a sniper team that came out of
> assassination school. They were always deployed in areas where riots were
> taking place
> or expected to take place. They had a hit list, a sequential hit list of
> people they were to take out. That was common stuff in the '60s.
>
> "Every time there was a civil disturbance, these sniper teams were
deployed
> and were given encrypted orders that told them who and what. They had a
> standing list of people to hit. They would receive information that would
> say, 'Do
> it,' or 'Don't do it.' And if they did it, they had an egress route out of
> the
> area; or a 'potted plant'-people that would pick them up.
>
> "The soldiers that were given charge to do this perceived individuals like
> Martin Luther King--and others that provoked rioting and unrest on college
> campuses against the American Government--as enemies of the State."
>
> So what can attorney William Pepper do with Morehouse's remote-viewing
> report?
>
> "He's going to take it to court as evidence and use it," says Morehouse.
> "His
> argument is that the US Government has used this as an intelligence
> collection tool for 20 years. It's going to be admitted as evidence,
> verifying the
> information-gathering methodology. He will say, 'Look, a military remote
> viewer
> has brought this information back and it was collected using military
> technology.' Pepper called and said thanks for all the great work."
>
> Morehouse admits, however, that "what he's [Pepper's] trying to do is
fight
> an uphill battle".
>
> "NON-LETHALITY"-THE FUTURE OF WARFARE
> Morehouse's new book is called Non-Lethal Weapons: War Without Death.
> According to Morehouse, "...conventional weaponry is designed to kill. The
> new hybrid
> conventional weaponry is designed to maim. Non-lethal weaponry, by this
> definition, must be anti-materiel and not anti-personnel.
>
> "The book takes a very philosophical approach to the concept of
> non-lethality. It talks about what conventional weapons have done in this
> century: taken
> 170 million innocent human beings' lives. Doctors, lawyers, professors,
> housewives, children, not warriors-80 million of them were summarily
> executed for
> their refusal to participate, and that number continues to grow
> exponentially.
> Less than 250,000 of those lives were taken through nuclear weapons.
>
> "In the post-Cold War era, the military-industrial complex has spent an
> inordinate amount of time on the disarmament and abolition of the nuclear
> arsenal,
> unscrewing five nuclear warheads so we can pat ourselves on the back and
say
> what a great job we did, while in the meantime we spent US $900
billion-plus
> last year to build and market weapons of death and destruction. So it's a
> shell
> game.
>
> "The conclusion is that we're in a new strategic era at a crossroads of
> human
> history. We have to make a decision. Are we going to continue to build
> weapons on an ever-increasing scale? Or are we going to evolve to an era
in
> which we
> retool the entire defence industry to outfit ourselves with weapons that
> preserve human life but yet destroy the war machine of a belligerent,
> thereby
> eliminating a belligerent's ability to wage war?
>
> "We have that technology to kill the tanks themselves. This is the
premise.
> The nature of man will never change, and therefore the nature of war will
> never
> change. Only the way in which wars are fought will change. All the
so-called
> 'Star Wars' technology, the electromagnetic pulse weapons, are lethal,
> high-tech conventional weaponry. That's all it is."

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 10th, 2005, 2:45pm

page19

Morehouse continues with his analysis, saying that the book "...takes 12
> truly non-lethal technologies and it templates them over fictional
scenarios
> that
> contemplate current world events-Bosnia, Somalia, etc."
>
> So the military-industrial complex has to be called for an accounting?
>
> "Exactly. That's what has to happen," says Morehouse. "We have to become
> more
> well-read on these issues. That's why the book creates this vision. Here's
> the scenario with conventional weapons, and here's what happens if we
inject
> a
> non-lethal form of technology.
>
> "I saw this tested at Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah. It's called an
> 'anti-tank shroud round'. Milliseconds before it impacts, it sends out a
> white-hot
> plasma jetstream which precedes the impact of the round and bores a hole
> through
> the armour faster than the speed of sound and spews molten metal into the
> interior of the tank which turns everything inside the tank into jello.
> That's how
> Iraqi tanks were killed in the desert.
>
> "What the shroud round does is that milliseconds before it hits it
explodes
> into a wire-reinforced polymer film that envelops the tank like an octopus
> envelops its prey. It shorts out everything. This polymer instantly wraps
> and
> shrinks down. They called it a 'shrink-wrap round'. The polymer's
collective
> strength blew the hydraulics on an M-60 tank as it tried to traverse the
> turret. It
> seals all the lids shut. The wire shorts out the communications."
>
> So why haven't they bragged about it?
>
> "Because," explains Morehouse, "the US $900 billion-a-year
> military-industrial complex, these greedy warmongers who build and market
> weapons to third-world
> countries don't want it because it's too cheap. Plus, if you start saving
> lives and killing equipment, then you force diplomacy to take its rightful
> place
> as the tool of conflict resolution in the new millennium. So you start to
> screw up this perpetual market of death and destruction.
>
> "We now have members of Congress who have appropriated billions of tax
> dollars as welfare for arms manufacturers. So, when a manufacturer makes
> them and
> sells them to some third-world tyrant who can't even afford to buy
powdered
> milk
> for the babies starving in his country but buys 12 jets that he can't
> afford,
> who pays for them? The US taxpayer. We now pay the weapons manufacturers,
> the
> arms dealers. And we pay off that tyrant's bill when he defaults."
>
> Morehouse has a point. This modus operandi has certainly worked for every
> military conflict in the 20th century. The Gulf War was only the latest
scam
> to
> generate profit streams for the arms manufacturers and their bankers, as
> well
> as get rid of excess population, i.e., "cannon fodder" (military
personnel)
> and
> "useless eaters" (non-revenue-producing, resource-depleting people).
>
> REMOTE VIEWING AS A PUBLIC SERVICE
> So what's in the future for "psychic warrior" David Morehouse?
>
> "What I've been working on is Remote Viewing Technologies, a private
company
> involved in information and training seminars for remote-viewing
> techniques,"
> replies Morehouse. "Thus far we have not taught anyone in the private
> sector;
> only people in the commercial sector and law enforcement. We've been
> training
> police officers in remote viewing because they can readily make the
> transition. Trying to look through the eyes of a dead man for an hour and
a
> half, that
> is not as disturbing to a cop as to a layman. Police officers seem to have
> this
> jaundiced view of the world, anyway. If they're working homicide detail,
> they
> have a tendency not to get as unravelled or upset."
>
> So what's being done with this technology as a public service, so to
speak?
>
> "Probably the only two people spearheading that are Lin Buchanan and
myself.
> I formed a company, called Remote Viewing Technologies, with police
> officers.
> Lin has what's called the Assigned Witness Program.
>
> "Remote Viewing Technologies has been working several cases in New Jersey
> and
> several cases in Baltimore. We're getting ready to train a large number of
> officers in New Jersey, and we've already trained seven police officers in
> Minnesota. The law enforcement agencies, the chiefs of police, the
> detectives-everyone has welcomed the training with open arms; as long as
> they understand they
> must keep a perspective on it and know that the three cardinal rules of
> remote
> viewing must always prevail:
> "One: It's not 100% accurate, never has been, never will be.
>
> "Two: You can never trust the results of any single remote-viewer
operating
> independently of other remote viewers; therefore you cannot task yourself.
> That's the problem that Courtney Brown and Ed Dames have run into. They
> front-load
> themselves. Courtney Brown sits downs and says, 'Hale-Bopp object
following.
> Describe.' It violates all the cardinal rules of remote viewing. There's
no
> blind or double blind. If you task yourself, you step into the world of
> analytical overlay or the process of imagination. It's the same protocol
> violation
> that Ed Dames falls into.
>
> "Three: Remote viewing is not a stand-alone endeavour. It's always in
> consonance in the intelligence community with other 'collection
platforms'.
> In law
> enforcement it's always used with other investigative methodologies."
>
> NEW SKILLS FOR THE NEXT MILLENNIUM
> David Morehouse, author of Psychic Warrior, should be commended for his
> courage in exposing these secrets of the fourth-dimensional world and
> bringing
> remote viewing out of the intelligence closet into mainstream awareness.
>
> Being a whistleblower can be the ultimate challenge. At great sacrifice to
> his family as well as his life, he has endured unimaginable trials,
> tribulations
> and harassment by the CIA and its stooges. And despite an organised
campaign
> against his work, he has withstood this barrage of disparagement and
attack.
>
> The importance of remote viewing should not be underestimated. Just as
> tapping into the Internet can potentially deliver information faster and
> more easily
> than by physically going to a library, so remote viewing has the potential
> to
> revolutionise access to historical and other records that are inaccessible
> to
> the five senses.
>
> The 21st century will require new talents. Remote viewing and its
ancillary
> skills, so-called 'extrasensory perception' (ESP) or paranormal powers,
> could
> be crucial in the survival and evolution of the human race.
>
> About the Author:
> Uri Dowbenko is CEO of New Improved Entertainment Corp. Most recently he
has
> completed a joint venture with publisher-editor-author Kenn Thomas,
> launching
> a new online version of the respected US-based alternative publication
> Steamshovel Press (www.steamshovelpress.com). Uri can be reached by e-mail
> at
> u.dowbenko@mailcity.com.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 12th, 2005, 09:28am

From one of my correspondents;

Astronaut: We've had visitors
The sixth man to walk on the moon shares his unconventional views.
By WAVENEY ANN MOORE, Times Staff Writer
Published February 18, 2004

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ST. PETERSBURG - The aliens have landed.

Thus declared Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell on Saturday to more than 200 admirers.

"A few insiders know the truth . . . and are studying the bodies that have been discovered," said Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon.

Mitchell, who landed on the moon with Alan B. Shepard, said a "cabal" of insiders stopped briefing presidents about extraterrestrials after President Kennedy.

For those who might consider his statements farfetched, Mitchell, who has a doctorate in science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, noted that 30 years ago it was accepted that man was alone in the universe. Few people believe that now, he said.

Besides aliens, Mitchell talked about being freed of prostate cancer during a healing ceremony and his epiphany while returning from the moon.

"I had an opportunity to be a tourist," he said, going on to speak about the sensation he felt as he watched the Earth, moon and sun.

Raised as a Southern Baptist, Mitchell said his feeling of interconnectedness could not be explained by traditional religion alone. He later founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences.

On its Web site, the California organization says it conducts and sponsors "leading-edge research into the potentials and powers of consciousness" and that it explores "phenomena that do not necessarily fit conventional scientific models, while maintaining a commitment to scientific rigor."

The site also states that IONS, as it is known by members, is not a spiritual sect, political action group or single-cause institute.

Saturday afternoon, dozens of people made their way through rain to hear Mitchell and IONS president James O'Dea speak at the Heritage Holiday Inn in downtown St. Petersburg.

Lisa Raphael, a member of IONS who describes herself as a transformational holistic healer, said she was pleased to hear Mitchell's comments.

"Personally, what was most delightful to me was that he was more open than he has ever been, very direct about knowing that there are other forms of intelligent life in the universe and most probably that they have been here," said Ms. Raphael.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 12th, 2005, 09:35am

Some more goodies;

Filer's Files #43 -- 2005

George A. Filer, Director MUFON Eastern

Vice President of Skywatch International

October 17, 2005, Web www.georgefiler.com



Radar and satellites track UFOs



This week's files cover: Arthur C. Clarke says life exists on Mars, as does Sir Charles W. Shults III, of Xenotech Research, September UFO Sightings Weather Map by Steve Reichmuth, and radar¡¦s and satellites are picking up UFOs.

In addition, witnesses saw UFOs over California, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Utah, and Wisconsin. Many witnesses saw UFOs n Argentina, Bolivia, Canada, Iraq, Mexico, Puerto Rico, and the United Kingdom.



The purpose of these files is to report weekly the UFO eyewitness and photo/video evidence that occurs on a daily basis around the world. These Files assume that extraterrestrial intelligent life not only exists, but my hypothesis is that of the over one hundred UFOs reported each week, many represent alien craft.



Arthur C. Clarke says life exists on Mars



Photo thanks to European Space Command



Arthur C. Clarke is one of the most celebrated science fiction authors of our time. He is the author of more than sixty books with more than 50 million copies in print, winner of all the field's highest honors. Sir Arthur C. Clarke, has again managed to upset the apple cart by directly stating what so few in the planetary sciences community are willing to admit: things are not as we have been told regarding our solar system. Surprising many he stated: "I'm fairly convinced that we have discovered life on Mars. There are some incredible photographs from [the Jet Propulsion Laboratory], which to me are pretty convincing proof of the existence of large forms of life on Mars! Have a look at them. I don't see any other interpretation.¡¨)"



Mars has trilobites in ancient seas.



Sir Charles W. Shults III, of Xenotech Research writes, ¡§I have a new web page that details life on Mars and also supports Panspermia theories that some organisms here on Earth were imported from Mars on meteorites.¡¨ Dr. Shultz has found Mars Rover Opportunity's images of fossil trilobites that match found on Earth¡¨. There were more than 500 trilobite species on Earth, so called because their bodies are composed of three lobes or segments. Trilobita are a Paleozoic group of Crustacea thought to have been extinct on Earth since the Carbonferrous age. Their apparent size is 2.5 mm and common features are bilateral symmetry, three lobes or distinct segments. The Mars imager took these multiple small images of trilobites.



When you find the same pattern on different rocks, you have a clue that these rocks might be fossils. When you find that not only is the same pattern present, but it is larger on large specimens and smaller on small specimens, you have support for the idea that it grew with the specimen.

Thanks to NASA/JPL/Cornell/USGS http://www.xenotechresearch.com/random01.htm http://www.xenotechresearch.com/murch02.htm rover arm breaks a tooth from an urchin Thanks to Sir Charles W. Shults III, K. B. B. Xenotech Research The original NASA/JPL image link is here http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/593/1M180828264EFF6200P2936M2M1.HTML,

http://www.xenotechresearch.com/mk505a.htm

Radar¡¦s and satellites picking up UFOs

Since September 11, 2001, NORAD fighters have scrambled or diverted from air patrols in the U.S. Northern Command Area of Responsibility more than 2,000 times to respond to possible air threats, and have combined with Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) and air-to-air-refueling aircraft to fly more than 40,000 sorties.





Joe Stefula reports, ¡§Our DSP satellites track the launch of various missiles using various types of sensors but chiefly with Infrared sensors. In addition to the missiles the sensors also are able to pick up unidentified flying objects that are entering and leaving our atmosphere called Fastwalkers." Slower anomalous objects are referred to has Slowwalkers. The DSP satellite system once composed of 18 units in deep space orbit picks up UFO intruders or "Fastwalkers" several times a week. AeroJet General engineer Ron Regehr, helped design the satellites. Insiders report there is a great deal of excitement as the UFOs sometimes trigger the early warning system. Often they are referred to as Uncorrelated Targets indicating they are not in the data base for objects in space.



Radar Problems Cause Long Delays



BOSTON AIRPORT -- Travelers using Logan International Airport may continue to experience delays, as officials are still working on fixing the radar malfunction that has been causing major backups. The problem began Sunday, and some travelers experienced delays of up to five hours Monday, October 11, 2005, according to WCVB-TV in Boston.



The Federal Aviation Administration's radar surveillance system in Merrimack, N.H., has been creating false targets on radar screens, the television station reported. A conflict warning goes on advising of a potential collision, but the problem is caused by a computer glitch that causes the system to detect planes that aren't even there. Monday, Logan air traffic control had to be switched to a backup radar system in Nashua, N.H. All approaching planes had to be kept five miles apart, instead of the usual three causing five hour delays. The computer malfunction has occurred at other airports, according to FAA spokeswoman Arlene Murray.



Editor¡¦s Note ¡V Radars almost daily pick up UFOs causing confusion with operators so the computers are set to not paint high speed targets such as UFOs. Frequently they are seen and videotaped near airports. FAA instructs operators to divert aircraft away from the UFOs..



September UFO Sightings Weather Map



Steve Reichmuth reports, ¡§September 2005 has been the most active time period plotted yet so far since I began plotting since May 2005, with 454 sighting reports from NUFORC and 75 sighting reports from MUFON CMS data bases.

Map commentary shows Anomalous light as *, Triangle craft ^, disk craft <>, Other shapes ƒX, Landings L<>, and Entities E,



A MUFON CMS landing was reported in Killeen/Ft. Hood, Texas on September 17, 2005.



(IFO's (Identified Flying Objects) posted for September 22, 2005 (around 19:10 hours) was a brilliant missile launch from Vandenberg AFB, California with sightings reported into the NUFORC and MUFON CMS from San Diego, San Francisco Bay area, Phoenix, western New Mexico, and Rifle, Colorado .



Chicago, Illinois and outlining burrows in the last week of September and into October has experienced some 40 plus reports within a small 50 mile square area! Similar activity (and similar objects) occurred in Cleveland, Ohio in July 2005. http://www.mufon.com/



The Chicago sighting flap is centered within Tinley Park, Orland Park, Orland Hills, Oak Forest, Lemont, Wheaton, Chicago Heights, Aurora, all within a few miles of each other, all just west of Chicago, Illinois. Alberta, Canada, and Ohio River Valley states shows activity. Thanks to Steve Reichmuth

Northern California Mufon SSD- Alameda/Contra Costa Co. http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlIL.htmlskip


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California huge flying triangle



MILPITAS -- My fiancé and I saw a very large triangle directly through our moon roof this spring. We just finished a dinner about 9:45 PM, We had to sit and wait for the RXR going by and we opened the sunroof! This huge triangle was black-matching with the night sky except we could see three red lights at each corner…As it went by-there was no sound, but it was flying at less than 300 feet altitude and bigger than two football fields long.



We saw one back in December 10, 1994. I went to the backyard, and saw seven little triangles slip into the Milpitas Mountains. They went like little toys falling out of something. The big triangle had disappeared. Maybe it crashed or just blended with the night sky and that’s why we could not see it. Thanks to Sharon



EAST OF MODESTO -- On my way to work in the mornings I have been seeing some unusual activity over the Sierras. At 7:20 AM, on October 12, 2005, when I noticed several jets moving south and north over the mountains. Then I saw a brilliant crescent-like object that was about 35 degrees above the horizon. The jets seemed to be skirting near the UFO. The crescent object flew higher.



Suddenly, a spherical UFO shot out of the crescent-like object and flew up. As the sphere moved upwards, the crescent stopped moving, and began to fade away until you could no longer see it. The sphere moved up until it looked like a bright star, then it gradually faded. On October 14, 2005, I decided to take my camera with me and I took some interesting pictures.



Colorado orbs

Dr. Bruce Maccabee writes, “If the pictures are taken at night using a flash the "orb images" might very well be caused by reflection from tiny dust particles in the air close to the camera lens. Orbs that are seen at night without flash, i.e., orbs that are sources of light (not just reflectors of light) have been reported numerous times throughout the world. They are the orbs which are truly interesting. For a rare daylight orb report and photo see: See "flash orb" analysis at http://brumac.8k.com/orb1.html





Florida huge boomerang craft



PORT RICHEY -- On September 28, 2005, at 5:52 PM, I saw a huge craft flying quickly, with a distinct boomerang shape. Keep in mind what I saw broke out of the dimension of space itself, was red only to the fact that the red part of the UFO was like an outlined cartoon drawing, drawn with a red marking pen. The boomerang moved just like a boomerang would be thrown in a cartoon drawing. It was flat, with no dimension to it. I thought, a flying red tiger. So what did I see? Does it matter. Not really! My self I am just an average person with a penchant for Jesus, and his Father God Almighty! I have been seeing the "lights in the sky" since age 8. I see these "objects" around us almost daily. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Northern Idaho 1947



Ted Bloecher writes, “Here's one to add to the DBase and for the rest of us to search for. It's a Category 5: July 3rd, 1947. This interesting report describes the landing, seen by a family of ten in Northern Idaho, of eight huge objects. This report should have been among those in the Air Force files because it had been reported to intelligence officers from the Spokane Army Air Base, and an intensive air search was carried out by two missions of the National Guards 116th Fighter Group. Local sheriffs deputies also made a ground search, but since no apparent trace of the objects was found, a report was probably never forwarded to Wright Field in Dayton. (Ted Bloecher)



Illinois red lights



TINLEY PARK -- We were walking north towards 175th street on a path in Tinley Park on September 29, 2005, about 11:22 PM. All of us looked up and saw one red light in the sky. Our friend reminded us of the UFO sightings we saw a year ago around Halloween. The red light kept at a steady pace in the sky heading either straight up or northeast. About 20 minutes after staring at the light, we arrived at my friend's house and it was about the size of a star.



Two more came from the west around the same height and parallel to each other heading east. We watched these fly at a steady pace just like the others. We kept watching just as long as we watched the first one. After awhile the first red light we saw went out and the other two were slowly fading out. One went out after awhile and then the last one went out, but before it did, it fell really fast to the earth. Then, it shook back and forth and finally went out. Thanks to Brian



Massachusetts



BERKSHIRE – October 5th was a clear night, and a helicopter pilot took his dog for a walk in Pinegrove Park, when he noticed a very large object located 290 degrees west, and 30 degrees above the horizon at 10:20 PM, that had not been there a few minutes before. The object was a bright yellowish, white color, and "self-illuminating." It was about ten times larger than the North Star looks. It is very large if it is, and i've never seen it before!" I called my wife to bring me the camera as the object continued to hover for five more minutes. The object began to move to the southeast and changed to red and blue lights underneath the craft.



I estimated the hovering craft to be 7 to 10 miles away and close to four miles at about 10,000 feet altitude. Now, the only aircraft I know of that can hover like that is a helicopter with a large search light, but being a commercial helicopter pilot myself, there are no search lights that would look like that and give the impression of being self-illuminating, and being steady and non-directional. Also the craft moved too fast to be a helicopter, it flew about 400 knots (most military helicopters have a top speed of 220 knots.) Thanks to MUFON CMS



Michigan bright light at top of the trees



HOLLAND -- We were out in our hot tub on September 26, 2005, at 9:24 PM, when we noticed a UFO moving slow at first. It quickly went forward then back then disappeared. Then three more appeared and maneuvered, then all the lights disappeared and all was silent and calm. We watched from the hot tub as all the objects disappeared. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director



GOODRICH --There was a bright light from the top of the trees in the wooded area near our subdivision on September 27, 2005. I noticed the light from the window about 9 PM. The light was too bright to be a star, but it seemed to be a white color. Slowly the light descended into the trees so that it no longer could be seen. There was also another light in the distance that slowly hovered in the sky. This light or craft had different colored lights, like blue, green, red, yellow and they sort of flashed or changed color constantly. This craft eventually could not be seen as it descended down into the trees/wooded area. These crafts seemed to descend into the woods. There is a lake in that area as well. This all took place for an hour or so. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
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New Jersey bright lights



MANALAPAN -- The craft was hovering with the brightest lights I have ever seen just above the tree line at 11 PM, on September 21, 2005. It hovered for quite a long time and then slowly dipped below the tree line. We jumped into the car to follow and drove to Tennent Cemetery where we saw it again. The lights were all the way across the craft and it made no sound. It was hovering and did not move for some time, then dipped below the trees so we jumped into the car and drove to Wemrock Road to see if it would reappear there. A shooting star shot across the sky from where we saw it last. It was too large to be a helicopter. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



New York two bright lights



NEW PALTZ, CATSKILLS -- On September 30, 2005, traveling north on the New York State Thruway and approaching Exit 21, Catskill exit around 8 PM, I saw two bright lights, close enough to each other to look like they were connected, but hovering in the sky! Its altitude was no more than 300 feet and it was hovering just off the Thruway near a construction area. I was stationed at Otis AFB for a year and I know this was not a plane or helicopter. There were no blinking lights, just two very bright lights almost touching each other hovering in the sky. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



North Carolina orbs



High Point in Davidson County – Alan Caviness writes, “There was continuing orb activity in central North Carolina on September 22, 2005.” The Carolina Group Research Project field team again photographed orb images in the immediate vicinity of power lines. As in earlier cases, randomness would not allow for this to occur at such a high rate. Photographs taken around power lines once again suggest that orbs are attracted to them. Some of these orb type photos as well as lights, and UFOs are available in a free CD by obtaining a subscription to these files. These are similar or even the same, as the orbs photographed in the Crop Circles in England. Thanks to Alan Caviness



Ohio UFO video



AKRON – Amy writes, “I took an unbelievable one last night about 6:40 PM on October 15, 2005. We filmed it for about 3 or 4 minutes.” I have this one and a really good one I took last week, I'm going to make another tape and send it to you. These are stills from the video yesterday. We were sitting in our car at the Outback Steakhouse waiting for them to bring out our food. (curbside service) My husband Ed was admiring the moon when he first saw the object.



I filmed it with a Sharp digital camcorder. It was about one mile away in the eastern sky. Thank God, I had my camcorder with me and was able to get great video. The object at one point looked like two black round things, they eventually joined to make one object, when they were joining each other they had a strange glow around them. They hovered in the same spot while joining, they were coming down as if they were landing.



I handed the camera to my hubby since he was on the driver's side and had a clearer view but we lost it. I am sure it landed since it was coming down as if it was going to land, when we lost sight of it. I am going out to the same spot tonight to see if it will come back. Thanks to Amy



FOSTORIA – George Ritter writes, “I am now shooting my 500th video tape and I often find UFOs in the tapes when I examine them.

This craft was videotaped on October 12, 2005. Occasionally, I spot them with the naked eye while taping. I have thousands that I have documented over the years on a scientific repeatable basis since 1998.

Thanks to George Ritter



Utah two disks over park.



DOCKSTADER PARK -- On September 28, 2005, my wife and I were at the park with our children when she noticed something strange in the sky at 2 PM. My wife pointed out two white disks losing altitude. We watched for three minutes and as they became clearer, my wife ran to the truck and grabbed a disposable Fiji Camera. She snapped the rest of the film on these two objects.



After ten minutes, one of the objects slowly moved upward and in about ten seconds, the object vanished. The other object was still in plain sight. It hovered for another five minutes and vanished in front of our eyes. We took the film and had it developed and only one photo showed the two objects but the others showed nothing in the sky. Thanks to Peter Davenport Director www.ufocenter.com



Wisconsin four bright orange lights



LAKE GENEVA -- At 8 PM, three customers called me outside on September 18, 2005, to see four bright orange lights spread out across the sky. For ten minutes, they were moving slightly when they began moving toward each other and met up directly overhead. Once together, they flew one by one higher until they were out of sight. It took five minutes until the forth one flew up and was gone. Other workers who said customers came inside and saw the same thing the night before. Both nights were perfectly clear, the first night they were here at 9 PM, then back around midnight. Thanks to Brian Vike www.hbccufo.com

Argentina aircraft accompanied by UFO



CIUFOS-LaPampa reports, “About 7:30 PM, the presence of a UFO was reported toward the south of Santa Rosa, La Pampa, near an airliner during the last week of July 2005. The airport control tower operator was observing the approach of a commercial flight from Buenos Aires when he detected the presence of a luminous object moving slowly and parallel to the aircraft, from east to west. Faced with this circumstance, the tower operator requested a confirmation of the unknown object's presence from the Flight Plan Operator, located in the lower level of the control tower building. Both men could visualize the airliner entering its final approach from a south to north direction while the luminous object halted its movement, issued a bright flash of intense blue-white light, re-started its movement, stopped again to emit another flash, and subsequently vanished before its departure trajectory could be detected. This UFO was seen on radial 140 and some 20 degrees over the horizon, vanishing toward radial 180, and at no point ever being detected by the airliner's crew.



LA PAMPA -- On October 13, 2005, at 9:14 PM, a luminous object was seen by three witnesses as it flew over the northern sector of the city of Santa Rosa, La Pampa. Its luminosity was observed for some 15 seconds, being an intense white in color, dimming gradually until it vanished completely. Translation (c) 2005 Scott Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Raul Oscar Chaves, CIUFOS-LaPampa.



Bolivia: UFOs cause amazement



EASTERN REGION -- The Journal of Hispanic Ufology reports, “Channel 39 managed to capture images of five UFOs that were seen October 12, 2005, over Eastern Oruro, causing curiosity and amazement in thousands of witnesses. Channel 39 of the Corporacion Orurena de Comunicacion (COC) captured the UFOs at 10:30 PM. The two strange objects drew people's attention due to their red, green and blue lights. One was a silvery, circular UFO that presented two circumferences -- a smaller one located inside the object and another outside spinning at an impressive speed.



Channel 39 journalist and show host, Pedro Rubin de Celis, said that Wednesday night's sighting confirms the theory that we are not alone in the Universe. "This has been a marvelous presence of UFOs in the firmament, and many people stepped out onto their balconies to observe this spectacle. The camera zoom has shown us, beyond the vehicle's flashes, a circle making concentric movements within other circles around the vessel and with a black dot at the center. The objects also had their own movement," he explained.

Translation (C) 2005, Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU). Special thanks to Guillermo Gimenez, Planeta UFO.



Canada UFO Circling Military Base



CFB COMOX, VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C. -- I saw a UFO circling the military base at CFB Comox on September 25, 2005. I saw it at 12:15 pm and the skies were clear, except for one chemtrail nearby. I got some pretty good pictures and this time it was unmistakably a saucer. I got a half dozen images of it and in one of them, there is a mirrored shadow object nearby.



In a telephone interview Brian Vike reports,

“The witness said in the photos you can see two objects, the white saucer shaped craft, with another off to the left which appears darker in color and seemed to be shadowing the other.” The skies are clear except for a contrail and there was no sound. The object slowly made a direction change, but flew much slower than normal aircraft. Thanks to A.L. Photos © 2005, viewed at: http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3261



OSHAWA -- I would like to share more photos of these white objects that I saw with the naked eye, quite high 2000 feet and photographed. I took this batch on Saturday, October 1, 2005 at about 11 AM. One other thing to note, in my observations in sky watching, that the flashes in the daytime sky, are in fact, becoming more frequent and more intense of brightness-like a camera flash.




Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 12th, 2005, 09:42am

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LAKE ONTARIO – I have a report of the unknown, that stuck out like a sore thumb over Lake Ontario on October 15, 2005, at 7:10 PM ,while driving west in Oshawa. I noticed a very intense, bright, white light in the sky, southwest of my position. No way that it was a plane, helicopter, or the brightest star or planet, and space station included. Five minutes after arriving home, I continued further examination of this unknown intense light. I am going to guess this very noticable light was over Lake Ontario, 2-3 miles south of the shoreline of Ajax to Pickering. The altitude appeared, well below orbit. This stationary light, was viewed for about 15 minutes. The clouds were starting to roll in from the west. This event, must have been seen by others on the highway 401,westbound traffic. The intensity was an awe of brightness.



I'm sure the security at the Pickering Nuclear Plant, were aware of the happenings above. This concludes confirmation, that the unknown, is making it's presence known to the masses. Thanks to Paul Shishis



Iraq orbs photograped:



TIKRIT --I took this photo a while ago, from the roof deck of the palace in which my unit hangs it's hat here in Tikrit. I shot a panorama of the countryside view from the roof and the photos before and after this photo do not have the "orbs" in them.



I have other shots of the same area taken when it was sunny and I have not seen the likes of the "orbs" in any of my other photos of this area. I have hundreds of other photos from FOB Danger (Tikrit) and the "orbs" do not appear in any of them. It looks to me that the "orbs" are in motion and moving towards me at an angle, that impression is very clear especially when you zoom in on an orb. Thanks to Pointman 7,
Charles E. Ratliff, 1SG, HHC, 250th Signal Battalion, OIF III, FOB Danger, APO AE 09393



Mexican power station alien spotted



ALTAMIRA -- According to the Mexican newspaper Hoy Extramex, "Widespread panic has been unleashed in Altamira after a strange creature was videotaped at the thermoelectric plant, spreading once more the theory that there is an extraterrestrial base in the area, presumably with designs on invading the territory." The power station’s night watchmen claims to have captured the image of an alien on videotape on the plant's security cameras.. Thanks to UFO ROUNDUP, Vol. 10 # 40, 10/12/05 Joseph Trainor editor



Puerto Rico phantom



LAJAS -- Jose Martinez of Puerto Rico's PROJECT ARGUS has provided us with photographs of the alleged "highway phantom" that has been reported in the vicinity of Lajas, Puerto Rico. Mr. Martinez says that the original photo and the enlargement where taken by two agents of the Puerto Rico police, who witnessed the phantom in the company of some youngsters who shot video of the event.



The phantom, described as female, screams as it crosses the highway from one side to another (Rt.303) Thanks to Inexplicata,The Journal of Hispanic Ufology




U.K. Five Round Orange Orbs



HAINAULT, ESSEX -- My partner and I, were just saying our goodbyes from my parents house, about 9.30 PM, on September 17, 2005, when I spotted two slowly moving orange lights in the sky. My Dad also saw them as they started to close in towards each other. We called for my mum to come outside and she said "look". She pointed towards three more orange bright lights traveling at the same speed as the previous two in a triangular formation. They were flying towards the original two lights, staying in a triangular shape, then slowly changing formation and drifting apart. My brother, ran back into the house to grab the digital camera and we began to take pictures. I managed to take one picture of the first two before they disappeared completely behind the clouds..



Then, our neighbor walked up the street, and said that he had seen the first two from his window. The three lights then stopped dead and we all just watched. The top and bottom lights (in the triangular formation) went out of vision as the clouds moved over them. We could still see the middle orange light, for three minutes until it shot off at amazing speed. The pictures show a more defined shape to them. Thanks to



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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 21st, 2005, 5:03pm

What ever happened to major X?

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Nov 21st, 2005, 5:23pm



Timetraveler, probably the only person here that knows where MajorX is would be queenofhearts. PM her.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Nov 21st, 2005, 10:40pm

Timetraveler, thank you for all the information in those recnt posts. You have indeed been a very busy person.
There is so much info, it will take me many times returning to adequately cover it.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 22nd, 2005, 09:43am

Creolelady, thank you for your input,

I have deleted some of my postings from my second book because it is still an unpublished manuscript. My second book is an expansion of my first book and explains many profound mysteries. I'm very excited about this second book and I hope that the publisher will publish.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 27th, 2005, 09:43am

This is some scary stuff:

http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/mindcontrol-mindhasnofirewall.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/ebon.htm

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 30th, 2005, 2:33pm

I am ending 2005 with a disappointment. The publisher has rejected my manuscript.

However, I want to wish you all a happy new year with a prayer that this planet will heal itself and put an end to wars. Amen, Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by blueyes on Dec 30th, 2005, 2:37pm

Oh Irwyn, I am so sorry to hear this, its a shame he doesn't realize the great work you have to offer. Could there be another way? Please don't give up.

Deb
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by blueyes on Dec 30th, 2005, 5:18pm

Irwyn, wishing you a happy new year and all the best. Please remember we support you okay smiley

Deb
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 2nd, 2006, 5:27pm

Here is my bio.

Author Irwyn Greif is a noted psychic consultant, author and lecturer in the fields of psychic phenomena and UFOs. He has counseled numerous celebrities such as William Shatner, Peter Max, Judy Collins, Dina Merrill and Arlene Dahl. He has appeared on many TV shows including New York City’s, “Two on the town”, “Mid Day Live”, “The Morning Show”, “and A.M. New York”, “The Regis Philbin Show”, etc. etc.
He has written articles for many publications including the New York Post, Village Voice, New York magazine, Sports Illustrated, Miami Herald, and the National Enquirer.
He is also the author of the book entitled, “The Soul is a Traveler in Time”.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:17pm

To my friends, I am posting correspondence from a guy named Mike who lives in Bloomington Indiana. He has the most interesting relationship with the UFOs.
part1.

On august 13th 2005,

I was meditating next to a tree in our backyard. It had been raining that night, but cleared up around midnight. There were several crafts in the atmosphere, as I can feel them. The crown of my forehead begins to compress and warm up ( pineal gland...third eye ).
I began to feel a surge of electricity at the base of my neck, and began rocking back and fourth. I began thanking God for letting me feel the oneness with love and nature. As I recall, it actually thundered in the sky at that point.
Anyway, after about 45 minutes of meditation, I looked to my right to notice that my tree, which had currently been standing straight up, as bent to the ground.
My band was there not more than two hours earlier and when they came the next day, they were floored with what they saw.
I've had many witnesses to these events and have kept an accurate log of most of the stuff.
Anyway, I can't wait to hear from you.

We recently had a UFO investigator come out who was affiliated with www.sentinalfiles.com
He was also weirded out by it. We also had a PSI employee who trims trees for a living come out. He said he had never seen anything like it. I am waiting for the UFO investigator to come out again. He said he wants to interview me I guess. I really don't want it getting out to the general public though. People are weird and judgemental.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:18pm

part2.

Mike, that was a very impressive experience. I do not know if this was an ET or an Angel? It seems as if a higher intelligence is taking a special interest in you. This might be explained if you have been abducted by ETs and they are still keeping a connection with you. This is a good thing and apparently they are helping you to develop you psychic abilities. Be happy and except this blessing. Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:20pm

par4.

Definitely. At first when it began, it was rather daunting and there was a huge element of fear. I have since realized that there may be a purpose, and that I should see it as a positive thing. I've had a couple of investigators come out, and they were thouroughly floored, and currently I'm working with an ex-Mufon investigator.

I'm positive I already know what is going on, but its always good to have an analytical mind keeping all perspectives level. They are positive that these events are definitely spawned by extra-terrestrial encounters. The particular night that the tree bent, there were several crafts in the atmosphere above me.
Their theory is that my meditation was able to concentrate the energy surrounding me...this may have in-advertently superheated the tree causing it to bend.
The bark is undisturbed and the leaves still grow naturally. I was told that it was highly unusual for a tree to bend, especially to that degree, without the bark peeling off of both sides.
Personally, I'm positive that many of these extra-terrestrial forces are angelic. I'm sure that if many are angelic...there are many that may also be demonic. Fortunately, I don't play with those forces. I'm not sure whether I've ever been abducted. Many people have told me that they believe that I am a classic abductee, however, because I have no memory of abduction with the many sightings of these crafts I cannot make claims to that theory. I have no symptoms of lost time, I remember consciously every detail of every sighting, and have never accurately seen anything which resembles an extra-terrestrial.
I know whatever is piloting many of the crafts that I have seen, can in no way be of human origin. I have seen many military crafts as well, including the classic "Black Helicopters." They regularly fly over my home, and have spotlighted me and my girlfriend on multiple occasions. It's par for the course, so, I couldn't care less.

Thanks for writing and listening...keep in touch.

Mike

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:22pm

part5.

Right now, since I'm still trying to understand everything myself, I haven't really tried to raise any awareness in the communities yet. I have shown several people, and have had contact with these investigators, but so far, that is the extent of it. However, they do want to start to feature some of my information after they came to my home. It took me a long time to want to submit myself to investigation, and its hard for me to want to go public.
In turn, you get what Prophet Yahweh has set himself up for...failure. He's turned himself into a performing bear, and sets up grand expectations for the public, when its really up to the UFO's if they truly decide they want to show up.
I believe that my connection with them stems from meditation. This is where I think everyone is truly capable of the same thing. In no way do I think that I have something that isn't attainable by every man, because we all have a Pineal Gland. I've been excercising it for quite some time, and I believe when excercised, it creates a communication bridge to the paranormal. Since its been hardwired into every human being, its only a matter of excercise. When were children, the pineal gland is actually enlarged and slowly decreases in size as puberty comes. In effect, in order to maintain its potency, regular and rigoris excercise is needed.
The pineal gland is where the melatonin and seratonin in the body is regulated. One controlling sleep ( sarotonin ) and the other controlling energy and light ( melatonin )...Once the brain begins to secrete the melatonin, DMT or Dimethyltryptamine is released. This is better known as the spirit molecule, studied very heavily by Terrence McKenna. When this drug is secreted, the brain begins to operate at a much different hertz level...Its also closely related to the dream cycle known as R.E.M...anyway, something tells me you already know this. Nonetheless, I believe the crafts, or those who are flying them monitor energy levels and brainwave activities. When you operate at a higher vibration, this causes the crafts to come, as they tend to watch those who are harnessing the energy that they have mastered.
Anyway...a strong love for humanity, nature, and God helps. Respect for everything, and a strong desire to want to become one with God is pretty much the mindset needed. I think they also look for artistic minded individuals...but to a certain extent, I believe these characteristics exist in all of humanity...its unfortunate, but most people have detached from their spiritual roots.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:24pm

part6.

Anyway...Here's a bit of my journal from the very beginning.

May 5th 2004 145am

Tonight I had an unusual experience at roughly 145 am. While going down to Leonard Springs to have my “spiritual experience,” and meditate, I was halfway down the path when I suddenly decided to go to the creek right behind my house. I had told Linette earlier that this may be a possibility. I turn around and drive back to my home. I want to state now, this is something that I don’t typically do. Leonard Springs is my favorite mediations spot, and once that I am there, it is a rarity…as a matter of fact, this is the only time I did not go through with my mediation if I went to the trouble of driving there. I go inside and get something to drink and then drive just behind my home at Hinds Rd. When I get around the corner, I notice a very bright light just over the farmer’s home behind my house. I decide to drive up to the front of his house and check it out. I honestly thought that it was probably nothing more than a huge utility light that he may have been using to watch his animals. He has several different types. Llamas, ostriches, cows, dogs, birds of all varieties etc. I decide to get out of my car and walk up to the front area which is covered by trees. My car is just behind me about 150 feet away. As I walk up to the front, I notice that the object begins to move. It rises from just above this farmer’s home, up above the trees, right into the center of the road just above me causing a quick and serious flash of panic. My first instinct is to run and not look back, My heart is pounding through my throat and I was completely panic stricken. I don’t know if its because of fear, or if its something that they had done to me, but my legs and arms WILL NOT WORK. My mind thinks to run, but my body will not respond. It felt like they completely paralyzed me by over riding my brain’s ability to control my motor functions.
This craft is absolutely enormous. It looked roughly the size of two superdomes once it was directly above me, oval in shape ( it looked like a perfect circle from a distance.) It had grated , white lights on the bottom, circling the entire craft, and another light at the top which seemed to glow only when the craft moved. This craft is less than two football fields in length above my head. Nothing could have been more intimidating or breathtaking than this scenario, and I can’t think of anything at all that would have prepared me for this experience. While still paralyzed, about 10 minutes into the experience, I feel as if something is being downloaded into my head. ( download is the only way I can describe the feeling of what was occurring.) I specifically remember there being a buzz sound, and the nerves in my neck and temples jumped as if something was stimulating the natural reflexes by using electrical pulsations. It felt like controlled lightening. I could feel a weird, but constant vibration as if someone took a set of clippers and rested them softly against the back of my head while they were still running. This continues for roughly 5 minutes or more with visions flashing far too quickly for me to focus on. When it finally “releases me”, the craft appears to shoot down a red search light on the corn field next to the farmers house and flies towards the northwest into the trees just beyond the cornfield. I’m pretty sure that it landed in this area, but my mind could only think to run in this situation. I kept my eyes on it as I bolted back to my home where I tried to sit and absorb what had happened. I knew NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE THIS SHIT.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:29pm

part7.

After 10 minutes or more and catching my breath, I decided to sit and meditate for awhile. During meditation, I saw the most amazing things that I had never seen previously during my previous attempts at meditative trances. Never ending fields of geometric shapes, c hemical equations, Buddah, and other sources and visions of enlightenment. This particular meditative trance was powerful, I immediately had an uncontrollable erection and I literally felt electricity surging inside my brain. The front of my forehead began warming up in a way I had never previously felt, and my body felt like a vessel for power. I cannot stress how vivid this meditation was. It was as if these very hallucinations were right in front of me…flirting with me. There is no adequate way to put into words the clarity of my visions and the things that seemed to interact with my very presence.
After 30 min. of meditation, my curiosity starts chewing a hole into my mind. I decided to go back to the field. I contemplated taking my gun, but it occurred to me that this would probably be of no use, and is no way to approach something of a higher intelligence, if in fact, that‘s what this is. I walked back to the field and saw nothing…however, while next to the field, I could hear movement all around me. At one point, I was staring out in the middle of the cornfield, and all of a sudden every cricket and lightening bug decided to stop at once. I again became spooked and ran all the way back home.

May 10th 2004
I’ve now told my friends of this experience and was looked upon with much pity. Most of them probably think I’m nuts now.

I told Casey, Casey’s friend Dennis, Kosuke, Richard, Mom, Linette, Brennan Golightly, and a few other people. Most of everyone thinks it’s the drug. I know otherwise. I am an experienced tripper and know the difference between a hallucination and the physical.
I’m not sure how to come across in a situation which has left me utterly confused about everything. 2 days before this experience I was making cracks to Linette while we watched a special on the History channel on abductees and how it’s impossible for interstellar travel. My opinion was that if there were other life forms, and I was sure that there were, that it would be impossible for them to travel light years to our planet. Now I feel like a fool, because I’m now officially one of those people I would have made fun of.
I have drawn several pictures documenting this event. I hope they will shed light on some of the feelings that have arisen because of this moment in time.

dMay 13th 2005 9pm

Here marks my second close and personal UFO experience.
Unless I have truly gone nuts.
I was watching the movie Predator around 9pm at night. The sun had just gone down, and my dogs needed to go outside to do their business. There was still a glow in the night sky, but when my dogs reached the door, for some reason they hesitated on going outside.
I was admiring the beauty of the day and already had extra-terrestrials on my mind because of Predator… I noticed a big beautiful star glowing in the Western sky. I’m not sure why this caught my attention, but my male dog Reesce, began whining horribly. I stepped outside, still staring at this star adamantly, when I notice it begin to move up and down in a squiggly, snake-like manner. As I tried to focus on it…it disappeared. My first thought is…No way. After all the bullshit I dealt with last year, everyone almost convinced me that it was a hallucination. I immediately feel a tingle shoot up my spine and then, as if by instinct, I looked above me to find a Triangle pretty high in the sky, with 3 lights on the bottom and a glowing, blinking, red light. My first instinct is to believe that this might be a jet until it disappears right before my very eyes.
As I begin to realize what these are, suddenly military jets begin streaming across the sky from the west, then back from the east in an apparent attempt to chase it. ( this is my guess anyway ) This continues for roughly 2 and a half hours and then lights start appearing in many points in the sky. They would swell in size, move right to left, and then disappear.
In a few ways, I begin to question my sanity, despite the jets, in an attempt to discern what is occurring before me. As the evening moves on, I decide to go to a field to meditate. The sky is perfectly clear and beautiful at this point, but lightening is flashing everywhere. Above me, I can still see several lights blinking on and off. I decide to drive around the corner of my home into a field which caters to radio controlled airplanes. As I drive, I look up to see if I can see any of the lights blinking on and off as I had before. This time, I can literally see the triangle in the sky following me around the corner to the radio controlled plane center. It had an extremely bright star-like quality until it got very close.
Slightly scared, but mostly exhilarated, I’m quite happy that last years incident on May 5th 2004, was not an isolated incident . As I meditated, I could see more geometric equations with endless fields of eyes staring into, and through me. I begin to see visions of pyramids, chemical equations, and then suddenly…I saw myself separated into my own section of an endless field of beauty in perfect harmony with nature. I also see the vision of a woman who begins to meditate with me. Her arms turned from two, to four, to six, and they all seemed to flow over some sort of webbing. I began to imitate what I saw her do, and just as quickly, I felt as if I had six arms flowing into infinity as well.
With a full connection into nature, lock and key…I began to feel quite orgasmic as well as powerful. No Shit. Suddenly, I hear the cows in the field begin to moo as footsteps begin walking towards me. I would say these cows were at least 300 yards away from me, but I could hear them as if they were right next to me.
I held out my hand, and they stopped in their tracks.
This stuff is literally wigging me out.
I began to meditate again and this time I stepped into what felt like an electrical field. I could feel surges of electricity pulsing through my head as my body felt like it had melted away. I began to sway from side to side as I meditated ruthlessly for about 2 hours. The cows continued their trek towards me, making me slightly uncomfortable. I quickly picked up and left back to my house. I took the deck and resumed where I had left off…I could see several lights blinking in the sky at this point, and another huge triangle had passed overhead. This is roughly 200 am.
I suddenly locked into nature in a way I had never felt. It was beyond exhilarating, it’s a drug. I began swaying side to side again and asked for the wind to blow through my hair.
Here’s where it gets weird…The wind began blowing all around me.
I began to focus my energy…I began to focus this surging power and asked for the rain to fall as the wind spun an electricity in the air that I cannot explain.
It began to pour the instant the thought was produced…Naturally, I thought THAT I WAS LOSING MY MIND. No one can control nature…No one would believe this…No one. I still can’t believe it.
As I continued to meditate, I let the rain pour all around me. I literally could not even feel it. The lights in the sky began to blink again and again, and I instantly fell in love with the experience I was having. The only way to describe it as is this…God-Like. I know that I’m not God, and I know that I am not mother nature…however, I do know that the mind is incredible. It’s something I’ve been developing for quite some time. I believe that the mind is a mini-conductor…or a mini-universe within itself. And with the electrical nature of the mind, it can act as a receiver as well as a sender of information. If this is the case, then everything is connected by and through electrical wave currents. This would make it quite possible to not necessarily control…but to cooperate with nature. Make it respond to you as you respond to it.
After breaking my meditative state, I walked into my home to find my dogs cowering my presence. I felt strong, powerful, and it was almost as if I was glowing. My eyes felt as if they were on fire, and my body felt light and in tune. I continued to surge,…breathing and humming, I was able to sustain my state of enlightenment for another hour or so, until finally my body broke it by having an orgasm.
I found that completely giving into the spirit of the earth and tuning myself into her harmony brought me great strength and power that I had only thought of before as fiction.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:32pm

part8.

May 14th 2005

I couldn’t keep my big mouth shut. I had to tell a few people because it was just too exciting not to. Of course I got the typical responses. “were you on drugshuh Lay off the shrooms Mike. I also got the “Jesus Christ, this guy is nuts look.”
My friend Casey who plays bass for my band immediately began laughing when I told him that I took pictures but they did not come out. I also told my friend Steve Delano, Krin Gallagher, Shane Cree, my brother Richard, Linette, and Kosuke Kasza.
Hoping to repeat last night’s successes, I invited them to come and witness what had been happening with the un-realistic hope that this event would repeat itself. Typically, that’s the way things go ( you see them, but no one else does)…and then, you actually do look nuts.
Well, Shane is the first to come over. So, I start by replaying the night. We put in Predator, and I immediately tell Shane that I know that they’re out there and that at any moment, “you will hear Jets going over head, because they’re trying to catch them.” ( In this location, there are no airplanes that just fly overhead. ) Just as I finished that sentence, Jets shot directly overhead towards the west. About 5 minutes later, I was surprised I had not heard them crossing over again to catch the UFO’s, and I mentioned that maybe the blips on their radar had disappeared. As soon as this sentence was finished, the jets passed over head again.
About an hour into this…Casey comes over. At this point, both Shane and I are tripping really good, and Casey is just enjoying the movie and the company.
In the back of my head…I’m worried as hell that I won’t be able to produce results. I’m worried that I’ll look like a fool for thinking that the UFO’s would show up twice, and of course…If they don’t show up today, In the eyes of my friends, then why would they have been here yesterday?
So anyway. I proceed to make a dumb error for the evening. I buried the remainder of my shrooms in the back yard that I wasn’t able to find until the next morning. I sat there digging and digging until finally I could barely stand, all the while thinking that tonight would be a massive failure. I’m sure Shane and Casey were wondering what the hell I was up to. I finally told them what had happened later.
I begin to walk up the hill and suddenly, I see something out of the corner of my eye. It begins to move and I yell for Casey and Shane to come see…the moment they get there…its gone.
I immediately begin thinking the worst…”oh god, its going to be one of those things where I try to show them over and over, and they’ll never see it. THIS IS A GENUINE NIGHTMARE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS EVER SEEN A UFO and wants to prove it to their friends.
Well, after a bit more time, I go back outside to check the area, when I BEGIN to see the lights blinking on and off all throughout the sky. I yell at Casey and Shane again. This time they bolt out quick enough to catch the first 3 lights. They would burn as bright as the sun and then dissappear again…showing up at different points in the sky.
It was amazing…Shane began pointing them out, and then Casey saw ones that were in motion…Oh my god…I thought!!! Validation!!! Some began to come closer, moving throughout the sky with zero sound. Again, triangle shaped crafts with three bottom lights and a blinking light began to circle my home right there in front of my friends. My God it couldn’t get any better.
But it does. I begin to demonstrate to Casey and Shane what had happened the night before with being able to connect into nature. Not at one point did I actually expect I would be able to repeat this trick…If that’s what it was.
Demonstrating what I did before, I began to sway from side to side. I immediately begin to feel a tingle shoot from the base of my neck up into the back of my head. Electricity sent shockwaves of pleasure into my brain, and the center of my forehead seemed as if it was warming up. I told them that I was about to bring wind.
Wind began to blow all around us in a wonderful breeze that I could feel literally tickling my spine. I told them I would stop, and so would the wind.
When I stopped swaying from side to side, the wind did, in fact, cease completely. I then looked at them and told them I would now try bring the wind with rain. I resumed my side to side swaying motion, and the wind began to again blow, with sprinkles of rain intertwined between, and periods of pouring, while quitting simultaneously with my motions. ( there were no clouds in the sky ) My head felt as if it were being massaged by an electrical current.
I stopped, and then the weather again became still with Shane’s and Casey’s mouths both dropped wide open. I could have sworn that I was literally insane the night before from what has happened, but, At this point, I knew that this was for real and that none of it was inside the confines of my mind.
I suggested that we go back inside to watch the remainder of the movie. Before I let them focus their attention on the movie I decided to ask both of them just so we were on the same page of what happened.
Do you agree that what are outside are UFO’s? Both of them immediately validated it with a resounding Yes. Do you agree that you saw me connect inside of nature? Both of them again validated the question with a resounding Yes. At this point, Casey looks directly at me and says…There is definitely something fucked up with you.”
I had to laugh.
The remainder of the Evening was spent looking at several moving objects in the night sky over my home. This also seemed to be a phenomenon limited to the surroundings of my home. We went to several different areas, including my friend Steve Delano’s house only to find that the night sky was either cloudy, or void of any moving objects.

May 15th 2005

Kosuke Kasza and his friends come to witness the lights in the sky. Kosuke brings two of his friends over. One of them is completely dead set against the idea of UFO’s. To make a very long story short, we saw more than 50 in the sky by the night’s end, and Kosuke’s friend is now a believer in Unidentified Flying Objects. I SAW MANY MORE THAN THIS AFTER THEY HAD LEFT. AT ONE POINT, THERE WERE PROBABLY OVER 100 OR MORE IN THE SKY, NOT TO MENTION THE TRIANGULAR ONES THAT CONTINUED TO CIRCLE THE HOUSE.

May 16th 2005

My brother, Richard Grubb comes over. We see several triangle shapes in the sky with absolutely no sound. Down by the stop sign at the corner of Robinson Rd, and Old 37, We see a triangle shaped craft hovering above the trees right next to my neighbor’s home. It almost seems level to us, however, I know it had to be at least 50-75 feet in the air. It begins gliding right toward us as we sat in the Blazer. And then averts itself just as it gets too close for comfort. This gives me a good view of the bottom of the craft. It was triangular shaped, 3 lights on the bottom, with one blinking red light on the top. It gently glided through and between the trees just above us, right next to my neighbor’s home, and then literally skimmed the top of our house. I’m not sure how it got in between such a small space with the amount of trees it had to have flown through.
Towards the end of the night, another craft flies directly over the house, and over the trees to its rear putting the craft within literally another 50 feet or so. No sound, 3 lights at the bottom, and a blinking red light on its top.

May 17th
No tripping, no planes, no crafts…no nothing. I call Kosuke and ask him if he has seen any crafts tonight out by Griffy. He states that there are none. I said, wow, that’s interesting. I haven’t seen any either. I proceed to tell him that I’m not tripping, and he states that quote; “That’s Weird.” As they only seem to come when I am tripping. ( enlightened mind state. ) This was something I made a point to tell him on the first few days of my tripping experiences. Kosuke lives on the opposite side of Griffy.

May 18th
Slight tripping…4 crafts, one of which was seen by my friend Casey before each of us had known the other had seen it. He got an up close view. 3 lights on the bottom ( blinking ) towards the wings, one red one on top. ( soundless ). Casey was around the corner of my house at the radio controlled airplane course when I had passed him to buy some cookies at Bigfoot. Absolutely no airplanes at all during the day or night. Looked for anything with a jet stream or sound. Nothing at all.

May 19th
No tripping, no planes, no crafts.

May 20th
No tripping, no planes, no crafts.


I want to add another experience which happened when I was roughly 24 years of age. I was with Art Stasny, Carol, and a hefty girl named Charley. We were at a friend’s house out by Lake Monroe at around 11:30pm. Art and I were tripping, and the two girls were sober.
Art spots a very bright object in the sky which took me a moment to see because my eyes were having difficulty adjusting to the night sky. The girls immediately recognized the object in which Art is speaking of. I see it as it centers itself in the sky above us. All of us are in awe as it creates some sort of geometric symbol in the air. Because Art and I are tripping, we are able to see the tracers, and the geometric shape was absolutely perfect. It sat in the air and Ionized for a few seconds after it had done this. I might add that it only took a few seconds for it to create the symbol that we saw. In a flash of a second, It bolted out towards the west. It’s interesting, because for some reason, I was not really impressed enough to make it a focal point. I thought that it was probably nothing more than a government craft that was being tested, and we were lucky enough to have seen it. At the end of the night, I had almost all but forgotten it.

May 21st…No planes, no crafts, no tripping

May 22nd…No pl
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:34pm

part9.

May 23rd…No planes, no crafts, no tripping.

May 24th…No planes, no crafts, no tripping.



MY OPINIONS OF THIS PHENOMENON

I have had many lucid experiences in my life which have been out of the ordinary in the spectrum of average living. I laugh when there are movies which show certain things as fiction, when in fact, they are more real than the lies that society has force-fed itself. The planet earth is a ball of life in the middle of an endless universe. I think people forget this in the monotony of their day to day lives…things seem so ordinary that most people don’t look beyond their noses to see a more powerful reality, a stronger picture which has mainstream society blinded. It’s easy to pass off things which don’t affect you as either fiction, or too distant to base your idea of what reality might be. I understand this.

Until May 5th, 2004, I actually believed that we were the only sources of life inside of our solar system. According to physics, it is impossible for interstellar travel. In order to travel the speed of light, you yourself must disintegrate and become light…therefore making star travel impossible. I have always believed that there was life outside of our galaxy, but I did not believe that life could contact us because of the impossibilities of travel. And hey, even if you can still travel light speed…there are stars within our own solar system that are light years away.
Fortunately, I was proven wrong. I find it rather interesting as well, because not two days before this, I was watching a special on UFO abductees and was laughing at all the people who had claimed to have had contact with extraterrestrials. Not only did I want Linette to turn the channel, but I made fun of these people for the supposedly outlandish stories that they were telling.
Two days later, I’m questioning my own sanity because somehow…I had made contact my damn-self.
So…what do I do? The only thing I can do is try to place all the really weird events that I’ve had, and see if they fall in line with some of my theories.


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:38pm

part10.

Mike, it seems that you are in a heavy traffic UFO area. What is your location? Where do you live? Do you carry a digital camera with you at all times? I am very interested, Irwyn

Yes...I actually do live in a hotspot of Bloomington Indiana. Yesterday, two MUFON investigators came out and were floored by what they saw.

I tried carrying a digital cam, but they don't seem too interested in being video recorded by me. Interestingly enough, the MUFON investigator that came out, Lynn Taylor has been recording them in the exact same area for 10 years or more.

All I know is, there is amazing stuff occurring everywhere. I'm starting to believe that there is no such thing as a hot spot though...every square inch of planet earth is a hotspot. Literally, wherever I go, they show up.

I have kept an accurate journal of everything since it first started, and it continues to this very day.

If you're interested, I'll send you bits and pieces of it.

Mike


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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:42pm

part11.

Mike, I am 75 years old and I live in two worlds. One world is the physical world as we know it, and the other world is the "real" world of other dimensions. How old are you? I have meditated on your experiences and I have gotten a psychic answer for you.

You have been genetically altered to become an example of the future hybrid race of human beings. The future race will have power and control over their lives and have dominion over nature and of all creatures. This is the inheritance that is mentioned in the Bible that is the rightful state of human kind. Do not despair and try to keep yourself grounded so that you can walk the tightrope between the physical world and the other dimensional worlds of UFOs. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:45pm

part12.

I had the ultimate experience which I have written in my book. I will share it with you now.

Chapter Twenty One

Cosmic Consciousness

A cosmic consciousness experience is when Angels, “hold you in their hands” and for a few seconds in time raise your vibrations and transport you to a sublime ecstasy awareness. This is not to be confused with an astral projection experience in which the subject by his or her own control has made the spirit leave the body and travel to a different location.

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.

I had what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified I knew I must escape.

I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The ground consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard I saw a black wrought iron fence at least 12 feet high.

I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane.

I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream. Then the strong wind knocked the dream figure down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.

At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher self overseeing this entire experience.

As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my Soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull.

When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and Soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of love transcended any earthly love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my Soul home to its source.

At that instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw toward this beautiful ecstasy. At that time I had no thought of anything on this Earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. I was only aware of the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force.

Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it reentered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.

During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements.

I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on Earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. When you have had the most personal experience of a cosmic consciousness you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a cosmic consciousness or similar experience.

When I had this cosmic consciousness experience I felt I was going "home" to my Creator. At no time during this supreme experience did I see or feel any person or human like figure. What I experienced was a feeling of total love of a quality and purity such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system.

For a few seconds in time I was one with the Universe. I was able to know and understand everything. I was connected to the total of our existence. When I returned into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much greater and more real than the physical reality of my life. This was a greater reality and it gave me hope and belief that existence and the Universe was beautiful and was intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding, but that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.

I believe that Humans are being conditioned by Angels to be more psychic and to develop their mental and telepathic abilities in order to raise their evolutionary level.



What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:47pm

part13.

I am absolutely 100% positive of your theory on the angels and hybrids. There are several mentions of this in my journal, but there were times that my logical mind has questioned this. Before my experience on May 5th 2004, I had many spiritual experiences, but was still a disbeliever on the methods they use...i guess. Before that date, I had never given any credence to the idea of UFO's or extra-terrestrials. The funny and ironic thing about that is this...Two days before May 5th...May 3rd...We were watching a show on UFO abductees, and very arrogantly and ignorantly, I sat and ridiculed the entire show, including the abductees. I myself have no memories of abduction, so I cannot vouch for that, but on May 5th my whole idea of things changed.

I am now 32 years old and still trying to figure all of this out. I have had the fortunate blessing of becoming one with nature as well. I know the LOVE that you're speaking of. Its a feeling that fills you up like no other. It's an eternal feeling that you wish you could feel every moment of the day and hold it FOREVER. It really makes it hard living here, when you know that something like that exists over there.
I have often hoped for an abduction, in hopes that they don't return me...or a speedy death. However, there is a job expected of me...I know this, so I have to remain until they've deemed it necessary for me to return. The one thing is this...if its my choice, I will never return to this place or the physical again. I do love the experience of meeting new people, learning about the human soul and its capabilities, the chance to serve my heavenly father in the amazing physical surroundings that he ( it ) has created, and trying to see past the physical to join the ethereal.
But, I hate the way people treat each other, greed, money, murder, violence, nationalism, and the confusion that the world uses to keep the human soul in chains. There is alot to learn, and unfortunately, mankind, as a whole, is heading for the opposite end of LOVE.
Sometimes my journal can be a tough read for me. I go through it alot to remind me of where I was at. There is alot of frustration in there, and when you don't have an adequate support base, things can be very lonely. It seems that things are now going on the opposite end of that though. I have a very stable support base now. Since I have been able to show others and have it investigated by the proper people, it has made networking incredible, and I have met people that I thought I would have never known.
Its a weird world with several different realities. There are dimensions layered over dimensions, and all it takes to access them are raising your vibrational level. I would have never thought these things possible before. I was so desperately asleep.
By the way...thank you for your interest. I believe God has linked us together as part of my support base. In every breath we take, God is there trying to influence us, its up to us whether we listen or not.

Michael Grubb...or just Michael...or Mike...which ever works for you.


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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:49pm

part14.

Yes...I agree with your view of angels and hybrids almost to 100%. There are a few references of this in my journal, however, my logical mind would usually come back to ground me and say...Nah, it couldn't be. You know how that works.

I have had that same experience with connecting to nature and God and feeling the eternal Love of the creator. It makes you never want to return to the limitations of the physical. It's something that cannot be described adequately...even placing a word to that feeling somehow cannot justify what it actually means.

I am 32 now, and am still trying to figure this out. This reality has several dimensions layered over it. All it takes is raising the level of your bio-electricity to reach it. Easier said than done, I guess. God has definitely changed the way I view things, think, breath, and interact with the world. I know I still have soooooooooooo much to learn, but time is running quite thin.

This has all been very weird and far beyond the way I previously viewed things. I NEVER thought that human beings were capable of the things that have happened. I never thought that I would be one of the people harnessing this type of energy. Believe me...I know that there are many others...There would have to be. What a weird time in history to be alive.

My biggest thing in the world right now is this...People are really treating each other horribly. They are harnessing such a negative energy that they don't even know exists. I wonder how much damage were doing on a subconscious level, let alone what we do in the name of money, government, and greed.

Thank you for writing, I consider you a part of the support base which God has given me to continue this path. It's not like I have a choice though. God is going to make this happen with, or without my permission.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:52pm

part15.

I think its neat that your particular experience hit you under extreme physical circumstances. That's really the perfect time for something like that to happen. This stuff is very vast, and affects different people in infinite ways. It's hilarious that I should grow up completely sheltered from this stuff...for the most part. I was raised methodist, Christian.

It's really weird. My mother accepts the spiritual nature of me, but totally rejects the UFO aspect. As if the two were somehow separate.
My brother had a real hard time with it, until he saw a few for himself. I get varying results from different people. My father, who watches nothing but sci-fi ( star trek, star wars, and any movie involving the progressive nature of technology and the unification of alien species with human.) but somehow, he remains firm in the idea that there is no such thing.
Here's some odd stuff about that as well. My father was an industrial engineer for the Naval Weapons Support Center here in Indiana. It's more popular name is CRANE. He is responsible for developing guidance systems, satellite technology, and God knows what else. He often went to the pentagon, but did more of his major travel when I was just born, until the age of about 12.
Boy have I had some dreams about that place. He used to take me there every once in awhile. I would meet his secretary, talk to people who worked for him, and explore the grounds area. The one thing I will always remember are the underground bunkers. The looked like huge mounds dug into the grounds. He would tell me that many weapons were stored there. ( He never told me what though ).
One of the most visual and lucid dreams I had involving that place was this...
Somehow I would end up somewhere which I would classify as "underground." I would be in a constant state of searching for where my father was. ( Keep in mind this...my father never actually took me to any underground installations. When with my father, I was usually in an office environment. I remember once, and only once, he actually took me to a weapons facility.) Anyhow I would walk incessantly around what I would classify as a high tech, facility-like maze. There were long hallways with windows, lights ( different colors ), very high ceilings. There were other people, but they always worked there. I would ask them "Where's my dad?" I would always get varying answers, but nothing that would lead me to him. Eventually, I wandered into a big, office like room where I found my father. I would only see him for a second, and he would tell me to go up and above and wait for him there.
I would end up outside on a bench with other people who were all looking to the sky. The sky was darkened. I don't know if it was symbolic of night-time, but there is a dark tint to the sky. Aircrafts begin to come in. They might be UFO's, I'm really not for sure. Something comes in from the sky which begins to terrify many of the people. I don't know if I see exactly what it is that they are looking at, but I decide to run with the rest of the crowd. Somehow I end up separated from the crowd, with the exception of one other person. I can't even tell you what this person looks like anymore...the face is different every time. We're running through the woods, and I can see lights not only in the sky, but in the wooded area surrounding us, but somehow, I know exactly where to go so that we're not found.
The dream always gets hazy there.

I get floods of dreams regularly. Whether day or night. I could be sitting around doing absolutely nothing. Playing guitar, drawing, whatever...and then I will slip into a memory of a dream that I had when I was younger, and its almost as lucid as when I originally had the dream. Sometimes its just a feeling, very vague, and then it slams me right in the head. There are other times I get these feelings, and everything remains hazy without explanation. I get a limited visual, but I can't break through the memory to understand what it is that I'm trying to remember. That stuff is very frustrating.
Here's something else that's weird. I have had many dreams of my own death. I have died so many different ways that its amazing that I can remember half of them. Here's the kicker...somehow just before death in every dream, my spirit leaves my body. I escape the physical death of my body every time. It's almost like I've died a million times in this particular lifetime, but my soul actually leaves before I feel the death of my physical form.

I am just floored by the sheer amount of weirdness that seems to now be normality. How long have I been dis-connected with myself? We're all born connected, and through conditioning, puberty, day to day living, and religion...somehow it filters its way out. When I was a child, I remember feeling the exact same stuff that regularly manifests itself now. This caused me to do a little study on why we feel these things as children and then somehow "forget."
It's all in the Pineal gland. When we are children, not only is our pineal gland larger, but it secretes almost quadruple the amount of melatonin and seratonin...which also means quadruple the amount of DMT. ( dimethyltryptamine ) or better known as "the spirit molecule"
Often when UFO's are around, I feel them immediately in the crown of my forehead...compressing.
This is our link into God. I also found references to this in the bible...its known as the seal of God, which is spoken of in Rev 9-4. Those who do not have the seal of God in their foreheads, will be open to any plague which God releases. The seal of God is an activated pineal gland. If we were to all die as children, our souls would automatically be saved because it, in effect, is already activated.
But, as we hit puberty, the pineal gland shrinks. After that, its up to us to re-activate it, or practice meditation and other things which link us to our spiritual heritage.
It sounds as if you have yours wide open and working just fine. I was shocked to see that you had meditated on my experiences. I'm glad that you're in tune with the spiritual aspects of all of this. Sometimes, that part of it gets overlooked in the sensationalism of sightings.

Thank you for writing to me...its good for the both of us.

Michael

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jan 18th, 2006, 5:55pm

part16.

Mike, your dream is loaded with symbols. The underground of course means your subconscious mind. The search for your father means search for father God, or the Creator. The big office means that the Creator is doing business. Your father telling you to go up and wait for him there means that when you ascend or go to the next world you will be in touch with the Creator. The bench symbol ["benched"]means that you must wait and watch the skies[UFOs] for guidance. The fact that you are separated from the crowd means that you are a very individualistic person who has this special connection to the UFOs that is shared by few persons. The woods means that you are able to connect the UFOs to the nature of things.
Dreams are a very important avenue of communication between the conscious and the subconscious mind and between higher dimensional worlds and our consciousness level. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Jan 26th, 2006, 12:42pm

This is very interesting articles in this thread and after reading OMG, I felt to myself...as it reflects many similar experiences that I have had, especially in my astral travel-lucid dream type experiences..... and it helps me to know that others are having similiar experiences. Timetraveler, thanks for sharing so much of your experience, as it is like reading a roadmap of some roads that I have already travelled.

Regards,
Easternbluestar
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 6th, 2006, 6:37pm

Thank you Easternbluestar;
I have posted many of my psychic experiences as well as my experiences with UFOs. I believe in sharing information among believers. I do not waste my time trying to convince disbelievers and disclaimers. Unfortunately, I have pulled off many of my recent postings because they were exerpts from my second manuscript and I wish to protect this material.
We live in a separate world and we have very few members in our "club".
Would you share some of your experiences with this forum? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by queenofhearts on Jul 4th, 2006, 7:33pm

heres a pic of an "angel" caught in the sky, its an old picture i found on a website, they called it an angel , looks more like the grim reaper to me, what do you think? LOL
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the story to the pic is one this site:
http://www.angelsghosts.com/1916_Angel_In_The_Sky_Picture.html
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jul 5th, 2006, 12:27pm

Looks like that one to me as well Qohs.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 6th, 2006, 3:25pm

I agree. This picture has negative connotations. Angels do not display themselves except as beautiful lights or colors. I believe that this picture shows a projection, sort of like a hologram image from an astral world.


What do you think? Irwyn P.S. thank you for visiting my forum
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Zareste on Jul 6th, 2006, 4:35pm

Angels prefer to be seen as something benevolent, but they won't always look the same on camera. Not to say it's definitely an angel or anything.

Hmm, I can't find any reason to call it fake. Image adjustments don't reveal any oddities and it looks even more real as you zoom in.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Jul 6th, 2006, 4:36pm

I sure wouldn't want to be living in one of the houses under those clouds! shocked
When I just looked at it again, the formation appears to be holding something, but I didn't think it looked like what I would expect....instead I thought of something like a scroll or tablet, but may just have been the angle I viewed it from this time.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by queenofhearts on Jul 6th, 2006, 4:57pm

on Jul 6th, 2006, 4:35pm, Zareste wrote:
Angels prefer to be seen as something benevolent, but they won't always look the same on camera. Not to say it's definitely an angel or anything.

Hmm, I can't find any reason to call it fake. Image adjustments don't reveal any oddities and it looks even more real as you zoom in.
really zareste? can you post the zoomed in photo? id like to see it closer, either way its scary looking to me, yea CL, looks like he does have a scroll, hadnt noticed that before, angel of death maybe? coming for someone over that house? checking his list?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Zareste on Jul 6th, 2006, 5:11pm

I'll contrast it a little as well. It'd sure be odd if it were using a list - telepathy can usually handle any outside orders like that. The only use I can imagine for a list is if the entity is from another stellar system and has no bases here for contact, and even then it seems a little impractical.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by queenofhearts on Jul 6th, 2006, 5:25pm

thanks zareste, wow, looks quite different when its close up doesnt it, i think youre right on the no need for list thing, youd figure it would be telepathic. a weapon? , actually it looks like hes holding two things, one on each hand.
what do you think?,
omg im sounding like Irwyn LOL, just teasin smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Zareste on Jul 6th, 2006, 6:23pm

Hmm, weapon. Maybe the stereotypical scythe? The picture's info describes the being as a Seraphim, for whatever that's worth. Perhaps they have a device to pull souls from bodies.

I thought, for a second, this picture might have been faked using the double-exposure trick, but one arm is darker than the background, so that couldn't be the case. Also interesting is the slight dark outline around the figure, indicating it's a light source, so this is quite a genuine-looking picture.

There's a few white dots above the figure that also have dark haloes, which once again indicates a light source and not a camera error. Seems like the thing's being followed by spirits - reaped souls maybe. There's clearly a storm in the background, which may or may not be significant, but there's been a whole lot of indication that angels have their bases in cumulous/storm clouds. I just found that interesting.

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Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by queenofhearts on Jul 6th, 2006, 6:34pm

yea ive also heard that theres usually a storm or something around, perhaps the energy from the storm helps them appear. who knows. yea the seraphim note, i didnt take serious either, im sure they thought they were naming it what they believed it to be.
the light dots also appear interesting, i hadnt noticed that, also the front arm seems to be lighted correctly, with the shadows in the right places as well.

seems likes hes wearing a hooded robe or something like that.
weird, thats how i see myself, (not the grim reaper look) like that during my missions while flying, you know the disembodied no feet spirit. my body then turns complete when im on the ground. interesting.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Ashiana24 on Jul 6th, 2006, 6:48pm

Hi QOH smiley

Thank you sooo much for posting that pic. Well, I didn't know whether to post this post here or in the Ghost category, but when my brothers and I were very young, we slept in the same room; they had a bunkbed and I slept on the other side near the wall. One of my brothers slept on the top bunk, and he remembers one night seeing something very similar to the photo you provided.

Actually there were two that appeared. One looked like a male (such as the one in the photo) and the other was a female. The male came through the wall and appeared to float over to my bed. It had a rope belt around it's waist, had no face or hands that he could see. The entity stopped and knelt down by my bed, then it got up and floated through the wall next to my bed.

The other entity(a woman), also floated to my bed. It was dressed in a flowing gown with a hood and belt around its waist. It also had no face or hands. It behaved in like manner, then floated through the wall as the other one did.

My brother still swears to this day that is what he saw. I don't know if these could be spirits of monks. I found out later that the land where our house stood was once a camp for Chinese railroad workers. I know the missionaries were also very active throughout parts of California at that time.

What do you think? Gee, now I sound like Irwyn too. grin

~ Ashiana
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 10th, 2006, 6:07pm

I cannot reply properly because I am in process of changing over to a new computer and all of my documents and Dragon Voice Activation programs are not installed yet.
Angels are androgyne. They can project as male or female, ACCORDING TO THE NEEDS OF THE TARGET SUBJECT. "Angels Of Light" are high frequency entities who cannot enter our lower frequency World without electricuiting us all. that is why they appear in visions, dreams or seen through the psychic "third eye". your "normal" optical vision cannot "see" them.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Zareste on Jul 10th, 2006, 7:01pm

It's true that one's mind can warp their vision as a spirit, but everything has a form. I've read through tons of out-of-body accounts and heard some from my friends, and throughout the stories there is a consistent material spirits are made from; it's translucent and white - somewhat aquatic - and resembles alabaster when energetic, and looks more like jellyfish material at other times. This material is only an elastic membrane the spirit wears and can warp into any shape - the actual spirit itself is an orb within the membrane.

As for gender, a lot of angels specifically state the gender of themselves and others. It sounds odd even to me, since it implies that they can screw each other. Seems like the angels do have bodies the way humans do, but they get ethereal ones because they're further up on the control-hierarchy.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 30th, 2006, 1:21pm

To Zareste; this is a reply to a posting which you made in July 2006. You mentioned a white colored membrane like filmy substance which "spirits" use to clothe themselves, or to take forms and shapes. This material is called ectoplasm and is from astral worlds. The ectoplasm is usually formed from the energies of the "sitters" in a séance. It has been revealed to me psychically while attending a séance that the "spirits" who speak through the "medium" are actually Angels who impersonate the deceased in order to maintain communication with this world to bring comfort and hope to the survivors. Do not confuse "spirits" with Angels. Angels are composed of energy whereas spirits are astral thought forms. However, there are many different frequencies of Angels even as there are many different types of physical and mental and astral worlds. To my knowledge the highest frequency of Angels are the Angels of Light.[AOL] Sorry I took so long in replying.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Nov 30th, 2006, 1:53pm

To continue; "ghosts" and apparitions and curses are the residue of strong emotions which have survived the deceased and which continue to enact their same habits and patterns that they had when they were alive. For example, the "ghost"that walks through the kitchen in a castle is a replay of a former routine and habit. A typical curse is when a condemned man who is just been sentenced to death by a judge curses the judge to die, and sometimes that occurs. A strongly impassioned emotional focusing, registers on the "ethers" and has its own identity, separate from the person who issued the curse. Meanwhile that soul has long since been reincarnated into a different body and into a different time. Emotions and thoughts are powerful and they sometimes become real creations with their own separate identities. Exorcism and "speaking" to the "ghost" sometimes works.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 7th, 2006, 12:44pm

Many people will have the opportunity to change their lives for the better in psychic year 2006. People who the Angels determine are incapable of change will remain the same. In the higher evoluted souls, in most cases it will require giving up their childhood taught beliefs systems and learning a higher belief and value understanding. It means literally to learn to think like Angels instead of animals. This corresponds to the biblical writings that in the "last days" of our civilization, "the sheep shall be separated from the goats". The "goats" refers to persons who are too stubborn to change, the "sheep" refers to persons who have faith and who are able to change their lives and to follow Angelic teachings. Religious believers are in the category of "goats". Souls who do not accept this system and authority of this civilization and who believe that there should be "a better way" are in the category of "sheep".


The Mayan calendar reveals that the end of this civilization will be in 2012. I agree and the psychic messages which I have received have informed me that the UFO abductions will cease in 2010 because the new generation of the hybrid human race will be ready to integrate and eventually replace the existing human race. How do we prepare ourselves? We try to raise ourselves above the limited mind of the human and understand the evolutionary purpose of this gigantic transition as seen through the eyes of Angels. This necessitates raising the level of our minds and beliefs to contact directly with our Angels instead of the limited minds of our worldly and religious leaders. This is not a forecast or prediction of doom but rather a message of hope and faith.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Dec 7th, 2006, 1:18pm

Irwyn,

This is aligned to what I have been intuitively getting too. We cannot stop the physical changes to the world that will happen in 2012, almost exactly six years from now, as it will happen in Dec, 2012. Prior to the peak occurance, there will be a great deal of sunspot activity, causing electrical disturbances, and the Northern Lights will be the most beautiful ever seen, but they will also be the warning of the electrical disturbances that will happen prior to the pole shifts. Everything including magnetic media will be wiped out, and the pryamids in both Egypt and Central America are monuments left by the Atlanteans to warn us of this cycle of shifts that take place every 12,000 years +/-.

Even some of the Indigo children talk of what is coming, and are they hybrids? They apparently have DNA changes that suggest something is "special' about them.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 8th, 2006, 5:31pm

The indigo children are the beginnings of the merging of the new generation hybrid race with the existing human race. The indigo children have expanded brains and minds and ESP abilities. The way to identify a hybrid in an indigo Child is to observe its behavioral patterns. The hybrid indigo will have a restless mind and want to learn many things and will be bored when involved in any one subject because he, or she, needs to be involved in several different subjects at one time. The limitation that is built into the human brain wherein the male can only use his brain to focus on one thing at a time whereas the female brain can focus on two or more subjects at one time has been altered in the hybrid indigo.

When I have communicated with Angels I was made aware of the unbelievable speed and dimensions of their minds and that they were capable of thinking several different thought patterns at one time. This angelic faculty which is also found to some degree in the indigo hybrid child demonstrates the reality of the next-generation of hybrid humans to be more angelic and less animal.
There was a television show recently on "60 Minutes" which revealed a rare child prodigy who wrote five complete symphonies before the age of 12 and whom experts said was a rare type of child prodigy who might be born in 200 years. This observation was interesting to me because it has been revealed to me that the alien abductions necessary to create the new hybrid human race have been taking place in the same generation of families for 200 years.


What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Dec 9th, 2006, 1:10pm

This is an update on my previous postings.
The "60 Minutes" TV show aired on November 26, 2006 and the teenage symphonic composer prodigy is named Jay Greenberg and he is presently 17 years old.
How do we explain or understand child prodigies? Are some child prodigies gifted with a special talent in a certain specific field as a special aptitude? Or is their brain constructed with an abnormality? How can we explain "Idiot Savant's"? How can we explain persons who can instantaneously calculate complex mathematical equations faster then a modern computer? How can we explain Mozart who was able to see entire musical compositions in his mind and who was able to transfer them exactly onto musical sheets? Mozart's compositions were perfect, without needing any corrections or revisions? Yet, Mozart's behavior in real life emotionally and intellectually was at the level of a 10-year-old child? Was there any mental intelligence involved in Mozart's music, or was he merely a psychic medium who was "channeling" this beautiful music? Was Mozart actually some type of "idiot Savant"?

We have an entirely different situation in the composing musical genius of Jay Greenberg. He is very restless and his mind does not only focus on music but he is interested in learning and achieving in many areas of science. We are dealing with a different type of human. I believe that Jay Greenberg is an "Indigo Child" who is a forerunner of the UFOs new generation of hybrid human beings. I believe that Jay Greenberg is a more advanced prototype of human evolution based on the Leonardo Da Vinci model. I believe what he is exhibiting is an expanded mental and psychic capability without most of the existing limitations of the human mind.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by wanderer on Feb 1st, 2007, 3:42pm

I watched this show and believe Jay is talented. I did not however, enjoy his music. Perhaps I am too used to popular music such as Tony Bennett. I am Timetraveler's wife and he has convinced me that I should join and have a voice. I have not had personal experiences with UFO's but I have had several Angel and psychic experiences. I also am familiar with Edgar Cayce and his teachings. I shall be happy to answer all who wish to communicate with me. Incidentally, before I married Timetraveler, I received a psychic "reading" from him. It is very challenging to be his wife and I hope not to disappoint anyone.

Hoping to get a reply. Connie cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on Feb 1st, 2007, 4:58pm

on Feb 1st, 2007, 3:42pm, wanderer wrote:
I watched this show and believe Jay is talented. I did not however, enjoy his music. Perhaps I am too used to popular music such as Tony Bennett. I am Timetraveler's wife and he has convinced me that I should join and have a voice. I have not had personal experiences with UFO's but I have had several Angel and psychic experiences. I also am familiar with Edgar Cayce and his teachings. I shall be happy to answer all who wish to communicate with me. Incidentally, before I married Timetraveler, I received a psychic "reading" from him. It is very challenging to be his wife and I hope not to disappoint anyone.

Hoping to get a reply. Connie cool


Well I'll be! Great to find you here. Timetraveler must be a very private person because I'm sorry to say that I didn't know he was even married.

We're very glad to have you jump in along with us. This ought to get verrrry interesting. I must tell BJ, he'll be happy to hear this.

Again, Welcome!

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by B J Booth on Feb 1st, 2007, 5:06pm

You bet I am glad to have you. Welcome, and I know you will find a lot of great folks here. I hope you enjoy it.


B J
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by creolelady on Feb 1st, 2007, 6:03pm

Welcome to the forum wanderer! I am very happy to see you here and look forward to the progression of this thread. I am afraid I would have had the same experience with Jay Greenburg's music. I listen to diverse types of music, however some that I have heard just doesn't fit for me.
Mozart was such a musical genius, but then again there are so many people out there who have incredible gifts in one area, but lacking in others. Is it because he was so caught up in his passion that he neglected development in other areas?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 1st, 2007, 9:47pm

Wanderer, welcome and I look forward to your opinions and postings, and know that I have always been inspired by your husband, Time Travelers postings.

Is there a website or page about Jay Greenburg's music?

There is alot of interesting information and postings on this thread here in Casebooks and I feel blessed to be amongst so many caring and intelligent people in this forum. It is truly a place I come and visit often, and I don't post as often as I once did, but I like to read many of the postings often.

Take care and blessings be
EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by wanderer on Feb 3rd, 2007, 2:54pm

Thank you all for welcoming me. My husband has been after me for some time to join this forum but he is so talented and experienced that I felt there was nothing I could add. I shared some very unusual experiences with my husband and I met some interesting people because of his psychic work. Maybe I will share some of these stories with you. Feel free to ask me questions and I shall endeavor to be honest and answer all to the best of my ability. I feel lucky that I have never been abducted by a UFO but I have had my own personal experiences with Angels.

More later, Connie cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2007, 12:22pm

The indigo children are the beginnings of the merging of the new generation hybrid race with the existing human race. The indigo children have expanded brains and minds and ESP abilities. The way to identify a hybrid in an indigo Child is to observe its behavioral patterns. The hybrid indigo will have a restless mind and want to learn many things and will be bored when involved in any one subject because he, or she, needs to be involved in several different subjects at one time. The limitation that is built into the human brain wherein the male can only use his brain to focus on one thing at a time whereas the female brain can focus on two or more subjects at one time has been altered in the hybrid indigo.

When I have communicated with Angels I was made aware of the unbelievable speed and dimensions of their minds and that they were capable of thinking several different thought patterns at one time. This angelic faculty which is also found to some degree in the indigo hybrid child demonstrates the reality of the next-generation of hybrid humans to be more angelic and less animal.
There was a television show recently on "60 Minutes" which revealed a rare child prodigy who wrote five complete symphonies before the age of 12 and whom experts said was a rare type of child prodigy who might not have been born in 200 years. This observation was interesting to me because it has been revealed to me that the alien abductions necessary to create the new hybrid human race have been taking place in the same generation of families for 200 years.


What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 5th, 2007, 12:24pm

This is an update on my previous postings.
The "60 Minutes" TV show aired on November 26, 2006 and the teenage symphonic composer prodigy is named Jay Greenberg and he is presently 17 years old.
How do we explain or understand child prodigies? Are some child prodigies gifted with a special talent in a certain specific field as a special aptitude? Or is their brain constructed with an abnormality? How can we explain "idiot Savant's"? How can we explain persons who can instantaneously calculate complex mathematical equations faster then a modern computer? How can we explain Mozart who was able to see entire musical compositions in his mind and who was able to transfer them exactly onto musical sheets? Mozart's compositions were perfect, without needing any corrections or revisions? Yet, Mozart's behavior in real life emotionally and intellectually was at the level of a 10-year-old child? Was there any mental intelligence involved in Mozart's music, or was he merely a psychic medium who was "channeling" this beautiful music? Was Mozart actually some type of "idiot Savant"?

We have an entirely different situation in the composing musical genius of Jay Greenberg. He is very restless and his mind does not only focus on music but he is interested in learning and achieving in many areas of science. We are dealing with a different type of human. I believe that Jay Greenberg is an "Indigo Child" who is a forerunner of the UFOs new generation of hybrid human beings. I believe that Jay Greenberg is a more advanced prototype of human evolution based on the Leonardo Da Vinci model. I believe what he is exhibiting is an expanded mental and psychic capability without most of the existing limitations of the human mind.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 9th, 2007, 07:40am

Irwyn,

I believe that over the next few years, more and more information, as well as these Ïndigo Children will be found, and their remarkable talents will set a new paradigm in how the world will be shaped in the future.

Early indications seem to show something quite remarkable about these children, who are now and soon will becoming adults.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 9th, 2007, 09:04am

EBS, thank you for your very intelligent response. These "indigo" children, are representations and forerunners of the new human hybrid race. We are a previous human race experiment and the Saurians who designed us built in a lot of limitations such as denying us the access to more than five to 10% of our brain capability. They also did not design us to have a better immune system and to be able to automatically regenerate lost or damaged tissues and limbs. We were likewise denied a more expanded ESP and mind control ability.
All of these qualities and attributes are contained within our DNA and genetic structure because we are an ET creation. All the laboratory UFOs have to do is manipulate and "tweak" and splice and add to the original DNA and genetic structure to create the indigo and hybrid new race. This is what they have been doing for the past 200 years. This new experimental hybrid race will be integrated into the present human race in the year 2012. The abductions will be finished by the year 2010.

Thank God there is a higher intelligence running the show!


What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 11th, 2007, 4:29pm

I think that you will find this shortcut link extremely interesting.
Http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/02/07/01353.html

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 11th, 2007, 9:12pm

Irwyn,

That article is a great find and collaborates that even in a country which we regard China as being very conservative and low keyed with press releases, it shows that China is embracing the UFO phenonema with good scientific basis. Instead of denying the existence, they are telling the truth and seeking answers, and contact with ET's.

It is even more interesting about 2012.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 12th, 2007, 10:01am

Please try to interpret my writings correctly. There will be a major change in our civilization in the year 2012. A new human hybrid race will be integrated into the present human experimental race. Those that will remain on this planet will be confined to the physical body and physical planetary worlds, which is three-dimensional. Other souls who have graduated from the three-dimensional physical worlds will be elevated and reincarnated into higher dimensional worlds, which are nonphysical. Our physical planet will undergo massive physiological and environmental changes and will be a different world altogether. Each soul will be sent to where they belong according to their experience, frequency and consciousness and understanding ability. This should take place around the year 2012.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 12th, 2007, 11:44am

Irwyn, that is in line with what I have been intuitively thinking about for quite a long time too. So many coincidences have led to this same conclusion, only that I do not believe in coincidences, they are carefully timed events to happen in life with sychroncity.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 13th, 2007, 10:06am

EBS, as you have already suspected and stated, there are no coincidences or random occurrences in the universe. Everything, no matter how small or large or apparently disconnected is connected, and is monitored by higher intelligence. Our human brains cannot comprehend this concept, because we are not capable of Creator or universal consciousness. We must rely on our intuition and our "gut feeling" and to learn to think like Angels in order to understand creation and our identity and purpose and connection to existence. This is something like quantum mechanics, but it is far simpler. The logical or reasoning mind cannot comprehend these mysteries or realities of life. The logical mind is like a computer, it only knows what has been stored and programmed in its memory banks. That is why I call the conscious mind, the "stupid mind" and the subconscious mind the "smart mind".


What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by wanderer on Feb 16th, 2007, 3:23pm

Hi Irwyn:
I guess I agree with you that our conscious mind is the stupid mind and the subconscious mind is the smart one. How do you think in your subconscious mind while awake?
Love, Connie cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 17th, 2007, 2:38pm

I just spent my afternoon going through these posts. LOL...I saw it was a pretty varied thread, and I thought what a nice place to jump into the conversation and get to know everyone with.

My name is Blue (not really but its good enough) and I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. I was raised metaphysically, and life is a box of chocolates. ;-)

Unfortunately, the only responses I have to this thread for you guys are from the real old posts from like 2005 and so. Well, here goes:

Gulf Breeze being a hot spot and possibly having a UFO convention there: There used to be conventions there, I found out two days ago. I've been in contact with one Donald Ware who holds contact meetings once a week.. or once a month... or something like that. Maybe if you looked into that?

Collective consciousnesses, Past Life Memories, Reincarnation, and People's Reactions: I'm a firm believer in past life. At least right now I am, until I can get a hypnosis person to help me explore scientifically a theory/problem/issue I've recently gotten. Anyway, it's common for people to Remember things and then react negatively. I wouldn't recommend giving in to those negative feelings, though, because your memories are not necessarily complete. Okay, so you remember so and so was on the bad side. What you might NOT remember is that so and so saved your life later. So.. eeh... its a good idea to be careful with such emotions.

The Wise man Harish and the photo of the Holy Woman: FOR THE LOVE OF THE GODS please tell me what religion, what location, when she passed to her next stage, and if the photo is available onlinehuh If I told you, you wouldn't believe me. But I've got witnesses to back me up.

Nice meeting y'all. smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 18th, 2007, 4:48pm

wanderer, you can never turn off your subconscious mind, because it is a part of your consciousness and awareness and identity. Your conscious mind is shut off when you go to sleep and dream. When you can "quiet" yourself or go into a state of meditation then you are accessing your super, or higher, or subconscious mind.

To spearcarrier, the photograph of the holy woman was shown to me by Harish and it was never given to me. As far as I know Harish many years ago was living on the campus of Stanford University in California and conducting spiritual counseling as a guru. There are many things that I wish that I could discuss with you. I am interested in connecting with people in Florida who believe as I do , and I would like to make a trip from where I live now, which is Port St. Lucie Florida to Gulf breeze in the future. Please advise and keep in touch. We must form a brotherhood to help bring in the new civilization and to prepare ourselves for our passage into higher awareness.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 18th, 2007, 5:01pm

My goodness, if I could only find out more about this Holy Woman - her story pricked my ears forward in an excited "hoorah" sort of way.

As for the rest: I'm open to it if you are. Drop me a line if you like, or you can call if you're interested. However, at this time my beliefs are still being formed. A bit of a warning.

I'm here because I'm researching as part of my "mission", as well as decide if the "mission" isn't something I want to fight or allow. I have found out a lot of information from both sides of the spectrum, but am very aware that I am only touching the tip of the ice burg. For example, this "new civilization" people keep mentiong - the inner knowledge of my head always shakes it's head slowly. "There's much that is being kept from us, and it's not necessarily pretty" type deal. But I don't want to be a nay-sayer. Let us speak and see where our paths take us, instead. I think perhaps I could learn a lot from such communication, and that is good.

Where in Hades is Port. St. Lucie?
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by badbob on Feb 18th, 2007, 8:46pm

spearcarrier ....... could you tell me more if i will start ........ ?


it was one of the worm summer afternun .... where the air was much wet as water

the sun sparks bouncing from the water has had a briliant reflection .... from it

my eyelashes feeling wet and rainbow inside of it .... sprinkle with the milions of collors .....

i'm thinking about him ......... *him is here now


could you share your experiences in after life ...... spearcarrier ...... ?




Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 18th, 2007, 9:12pm

I wonder if I'm being pinged from curiosity or paranoia.... and feel a little guilty this thread has turned wholly in my direction when it wasn't even started by me. :-p

Him.. HIM.. if he is here now, then where because I've a bone to pick with the estranged fellow. And where should I begin, O Pinger of My Outer Firewall Professionals Claim the Mind Cannot Have? ;-)

For a lot of people in many lives, such moments exist wherein you stand above the sea waves and think of things you may have lost forever. And the rainbow within may not be the gleam of tears and salt spray but rather a disposition, a metaphorical place marker.

I am not sure what you mean by "after life", if you mean in the after life or after my first life, or after life began in this body, or...

I choose the after life, because it is strange and interesting and might convince another to share a similar experience. Keeping such things in your mind is also a handy bridge, if you are of the type whose need to Awaken requires you to jump from era to era. But is this right, that the thread as leapt so far from the original topic?

But which tale to tell? Hrm, ho, aaaaah...

There was a small spirit - for small she was brought into being by her creators and small she tended to remain as the essences distilled within encouraged youth - that found herself abandoned after the Fall. In loneliness, she travelled forth from her home much like the Little Prince, but in search of companionship. Hitherto she floated among the Layers and smoky areas aimlessly.

Suddenly, she was confronted by a glowing being of such enormity that she could see nothing else before her. She stopped in shock and fear. Before she had time to do little else, the enormous creature turned its attention to her and said, essentially...

"Pikachu, I choose you."

Then he swallowed her like the whale does helpless brine in the vast oceans. Swirling into the cavity of the gargantuan, she wept in fear and panic. She did not want to die there, not after having even had a chance to live. With her would go the last of her people, the last remnants of their knowledge and possession.

"No," she was reassured. But she could be useful, as the giant had never seen anything like her and felt her uniqueness was perfect for a dilemma at hand. But she would have to be changed in order to do what had to be done.

She did not want to change, and so argued with the being for quite some time. When she was created, she was created as a special type of being for a special purpose. She did not want that original purose to be damaged in any way. Furthermore, she liked being who and what she was.

Very well, the giant agreed after a while. But she had to gain some things, at the very least.

Then it spit her out. She spiralled into a different place than where she had been caught up. It was an entire realm between the layers. Glowbrights flittered to and fro, endlessly working like ants. Everything was made of song, and this is when she noticed that she, too, was singing.

And that is how the little spirit came to be in the world of the Glowbrights for a time, working alongside a new country and learning the skils of the departments that were the foundation of their ways.

The End. :-P

I was going to talk about some other thing, but this one has always amyooosed me.

It is kind, if you are truly speaking of "Him" to hear messages from his side once in a while. I hold gratitude for all who bring me such fleeting messages.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by badbob on Feb 18th, 2007, 9:44pm


"Pikachu, I choose you."

it's nice to know you closer ...... spearcarrier ...... smiley ...... *our believes makes things happens ..... wellcome

*(many of us on this forum)

.... don't be afraid ..... there is nothing to be afraid of ..... we are part of you .....


Everything was made of song, and this is when she noticed that she, too, was singing. ... lovely



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 18th, 2007, 9:46pm

Well it's nice to know folks here closer, as well. I think this is a pretty nifty place so far. It isn't often that I get an entire evening of stimulating conversation filled with actual, dare I say it, intellectualism.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by badbob on Feb 18th, 2007, 9:51pm




smiley

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 19th, 2007, 10:30am

I'm so happy with the intelligent and intuitive replies that we are getting in this topic. I'm 76 years old, and I have pursued as many sources of higher intelligence that I could. I respect intelligence especially intuitive intelligence, but I do not respect intellectuals, because I think they are worshipers of words, rather than worshipers of understanding. I will insert snippets from my second book as replies to some of these posts, which will be published via E publishing about two months from now. Regards to my wife[wanderer] and my friend, [area 51].

"Chapter Eight
Psychic Adventures
My life as a psychic has been like a script from a James Bond or Star Trek movie. I've had contacts with the FBI, CIA, Mafia, spies, and ET's. Being a psychic has also enabled me to meet famous celebrities including movie stars and professional sports personalities.
The easiest people for me to analyze have been spies or criminals or people who have secrets or live secret lives. The most difficult persons for me to analyze have been psychologists because they're trained in clinical psychology which teaches psychologists to label and classify individuals as groups and types. As a result of my experience with psychologists my definition of a psychologist is, “someone who can explain everything and understand nothing”.
In one of my sessions with a woman psychologist she irritated me by trivializing everything that I said about her. This resulted in “intensifying” my psychic abilities.
I then told her that she had strong homicidal tendencies and that she was schizophrenic. She calmly answered me by saying,” isn’t that true of every body?”
In the 1960s I met Dr. “Barbara” who was interested in psychic phenomena and the paranormal. Dr. “Barbara” was a psychiatrist in New Jersey whose training included the teachings of Dr. Wilhelm Reich.
One of the devices used in Reichian psychiatry is an “orgone energy box” which is a box made of heavy cardboard with insulating layers of aluminum and other material. This box was designed by Dr. Reich and its purpose was to expand and amplify the psychic energies of anyone inside this box.
Dr. “Barbara” wanted to experiment by placing me inside the “box”. When I was in this “box” she observed that the temperature of the room increased by 10°. Then she said that she observed a blue flame come from the top of my head and go up to the ceiling. We both believed that this signified the opening of the seventh or “crown chakra” which is located at the top of the head.
My psychic abilities were magnified while I was inside this “energy box” and I was able to see diagrams and receive information regarding the propulsion systems of different types of UFOs.
[Note: Dr. Wilhelm Reich was sent to a federal prison in the United States because our government had a federal law declaring any research and experimentation of “orgone energy” to be illegal.]
I befriended another Reichian psychiatrist named Dr. “Bernard”, who practiced in New York City, in the 1960s. He was impressed with my psychic analytical abilities and I mentioned to him my belief that psychiatry should not take longer than six months. I felt that the longer the psychiatry the more likelihood of emotional attachments being formed with the therapist.
Dr. “Bernard” suggested that we test this theory. He arranged for me to analyze 56 of his patients in group therapy sessions of eight persons in a group. Dr. “Bernard” was in attendance at each of these sessions. I conducted this “psychic group therapy” and I was able to almost instantly access their problems and reveal to each patient their underlying areas of subconscious difficulties.
Dr. “Bernard” and I were very excited at the prospect of adding psychic analysis as an adjunct to psychiatry. However, after a few group sessions the patients complained to Dr. “Bernard” that I was moving too fast in their therapy and they threatened to report him to the medical authorities. We were forced to discontinue this experiment and I realized that these patients did not really want to be cured but that they enjoyed and needed the family type relationship of group therapy support as their security blanket. I was very excited with the results of combining my psychic analysis with a psychotherapist and it is my belief that this type of collaboration can result in more effective psychotherapy in a shorter period of treatment.
Sometime later, Dr. “Bernard” telephoned me and asked me to come to his office to help one of his patients with my psychic talent. I went to his office and he had a group of patients present.
This particular patient was a girl who could not sleep at night, because her brother, who had been killed in a motorcycle accident a few weeks prior, kept coming to her in her dreams at night and he kept calling to her.
She was unable to sleep without having nightmares which always included her brother looking lost and sad and lonely. Since her brother's death she was unable to eat regular meals and she was neglecting her health and losing a lot of weight. Dr. “Bernard” asked me to help her. Normally I have not been able to contact the dead.
I began to psychically analyze the girl. At this time, I saw a visualization of the back of my head and I saw a large “padlock” that was locked. Then, I saw the “padlock” open and I was able to communicate with the dead brother.
I told her that the brother was selfishly trying to pull her into the grave for him to have company. I told the spirit of her brother that he was wrong and that he should stop trying to call his sister to join him in death. I also told his sister not to feel sorry for him and to protect herself from him. After I finished this psychic session I saw in visualization that the “padlock” at the back of my head was locked again.
My Angels were revealing to me by the “padlock” symbol that they have locked me off from communicating with the dead and the 4th dimension to protect me from being “possessed” by discarnate spirits.
Many years ago I was speaking to a guru from India named Harish and he asked me to do a psychic reading on a photograph of a deceased holy woman. I "saw" the soul of this holy woman travel to all the places on this planet where she had past lives and her soul collected her "remains". Then, I saw that there was a “door” in the sun and her soul went through that “door” and into a higher dimensional world.
At this point I "knew" that when a soul attains a higher frequency vibration it can pass through the “door” in the sun and into a higher dimension world. After I finished this psychic reading Harish informed me that there is a religious group in India that believes that if you can look at the sun and see that “door” than you will be elevated to a higher awareness. The members of this group sit on rock ledges all day and stare at the sun. As a result most of them become blind. I was not aware of this information until I was told this after I did my psychic reading.
About 30 years ago I was attending séances with the famous medium Frank Decker. Frank had been a partner with the legendary psychic Arthur Ford and both had demonstrated their psychic abilities at a studio in the Carnegie Hall Building.
Frank Decker was a “trumpet” medium which meant that during his séances the spirits “spoke” through a two foot long conical shaped aluminum megaphone which would “sail” all around the room and “speak” to the sitters. His “control” was named Patsy who was supposed to have been the spirit of a teenage newspaper delivery boy who had died in a traffic accident. I psychically felt that Patsy had too much wisdom to be the spirit of a teenage boy and I believe that Patsy was an Angel in disguise.
During one of these séances my deceased grandfather Julius “came through” and spoke great wisdoms. I psychically could not accept this as being characteristic of my grandfather.
At this point in this séance I received a psychic message that séances actually do not involve deceased persons but rather involve Angels who impersonate deceased persons. This communication between dimensions is necessary to give comfort and peace of mind to the survivors.
I was further informed that, the deceased spirits are on mental time and they cannot slow down to communicate with living persons who are on physical time. The deceased have to be about their own business of reincarnating and learning.
During my apprenticeship with Frank, I purchased a two foot long “trumpet” and one night, when I was at home, I laid it on top of my dresser with the wide end facing me and I fell asleep. Later that night I was awakened from my sleep and I was “directed” to look at the trumpet lying on the dresser. What I saw amazed me. I saw inside the “trumpet” a procession of miniature “elves” dressed in green costumes and singing and each “elf” was carrying a lit torch. This looked like a scene from a Walt Disney movie. I interpreted this to mean that Angels use the amplified psychic vibrations of the “trumpet” to manifest sounds and images to communicate with our world.
I have been blocked from going under hypnosis. When I was in my 30s and developing as a psychic one of my friends suggested that I go under hypnosis to increase my psychic abilities. I attended a hypnotic session in Greenwich Village, which involved a woman hypnotist. She was attempting to hypnotize a group of people including myself. Just as I was about to go under hypnosis, I heard a little voice inside my head, which sounded like a midget inside an echo chamber. The voice said, "Get the hell out of here", and this made me laugh, which broke the hypnotic trance.
I felt at that time that I was being protected from having my mind and my memories accessed or controlled by other people. I believe that I have knowledge and memories of other worlds and other technologies and that this information should not be revealed."
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 19th, 2007, 10:35am

part2-

"Perhaps that is why some people, similar to me, cannot be hypnotized.
In the 1980s I had a part-time job dispensing sodas at “Big Daddy's” fast food restaurant in the Sheepshead bay area of Brooklyn. While I worked there I made friends with the maintenance man named Jimmy and he was interested in my psychic abilities. Jimmy's brother was connected to the Gambino Mafia family.
One day while I was working at Big Daddy’s restaurant Jimmy came over to me and said that someone had requested a psychic “reading” from me and that I should go with him. He would not tell me who wanted the “reading”. I rode with Jimmy in his car until we came to a single-family brick private home in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. A big tough looking guy opened the door and ushered us into this house. There were several burly men sitting around in the living room.
Then, a tall, handsome man wearing tortoise shell eyeglasses and alligator belt and shoes motioned for me to sit down at the table facing him. I recognized this man as Paul Castellano, the head of the Gambino crime family. At the time I felt like, “Daniel in the lions den” and my greatest wish was to get out of there alive. Mr. Castellano told me that his wife wanted a psychic “reading”. Then, I was directed into a private room where I met Mrs. Castellano. I finished the session and I entered into the living room again. At this time, Mr. Castellano told me to sit down and to tell him the complete details of the psychic reading. At this point I was “between a rock and a hard place”. If he did not like my psychic reading, he would probably kill me. If I protected his wife’s privacy, he would probably kill me.
At this time I made the decision to reveal the complete dialogue to him. Then, I told him that his wife had requested that I ask him for a divorce. At this point he looked at me to determine if I was being truthful, or disrespecting him. Apparently, he felt that I was truthful and not disrespectful and that is why I was allowed to walk out of that home alive. About six weeks later Paul Castellano was assassinated outside of Spark's Steakhouse.
On another occasion I was able to uncover a World War II spy operation when a client of mine named Trudy returned from a vacation in England. She showed me a photograph of a balding, middle-aged man named George with whom she had a romantic vacation and she told me that he was a professor of archaeology at a British university. She asked me to analyze his photo.
My psychic specialty is analyzing photographs. I looked at this photograph and I told her that George had a secret life and that he was a decoding expert used by British intelligence in World War II. I also told her that he was dropped behind the enemy lines on a secret mission but he was captured and he had revealed the names of the other people in his mission to the Nazis.
As I told Trudy this information she dropped the photograph in shock. She told me that George had told her in strictest confidence that he had been a decoding expert for the British intelligence and that he was dropped behind the enemy lines and captured but that he had escaped from the Gestapo. I did not feel that he had really escaped from the Gestapo; however, I did not mention this to Trudy.
There were two other readings that involved ex Nazis. In one of these a woman showed me a photograph of a man dressed in the uniform of an SS officer. She told me that he was very abusive to her and she asked me for my advice. I meditated on his photograph and I told her that he would be out of her life in about one year. I heard from this woman about 13 months later and she told me that he died of a heart attack exactly 1 year from the time of her reading.
In another reading a woman in her early 30s came to me and showed me a photograph of a middle-aged man and she told me that he was her boyfriend. She told me that he was the son of the infamous Nazi, Dr. Mengeles and that he was a physicist who was trying to obtain funds for a curative energy device from the casino owners in Las Vegas. She said that they rejected funding his invention in Las Vegas and that he was going to try next to interest the New York mafia in his device.
There were several occasions when I came in contact with the CIA. As a psychic I have come across information that appeared to be of interest to national security agencies, however, whenever I tried to report the details of this information I was treated with ridicule and disbelief by these same agencies. During the Cold War I had approached the CIA and volunteered my psychic services. My contention was that if they showed me photographs of unidentified persons attending diplomatic or scientific functions in Europe, I would analyze the photographs and reveal their true identities and functions. The CIA refused my offer and told me that they did not need my services.
One time I was giving a psychic reading to a man who was in his 30s and when I finished I told him that his vibrations were excellent for him to work for the CIA, and I suggested that he seek employment with the CIA. At this point the man stood up, his composure apparently unraveled, and he said to me,” I am a CIA agent”.
Sometimes, I would find myself inadvertently in contact with the CIA. In the late 1970s I was friendly with a girl whom I shall call “Marilyn”. She was part of a circle of psychic friends. She lived in a luxurious apartment near East 86th Street and Lexington Ave in Manhattan. At that time I was living at the YMHA at E. 92nd St and Lexington Avenue.
She would invite me sometimes to attend gatherings of psychic people at her apartment. I was curious about her high rent apartment and expensive furnishings. One day I asked her, “Marilyn, how can you afford the rent and the furnishings in this apartment on a working girl's income?” She replied, “I have a boyfriend who works for the CIA and he pays the rent and all expenses and in exchange asks me to arrange for these psychic meetings”. During all of these meetings her boyfriend was never in attendance, and was never seen. I had to assume that there were cameras and surveillance devices in this apartment and that this was a CIA psychic research project, to monitor potential psychic “resources” and to keep abreast of the Russian psychic research programs."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 19th, 2007, 10:40am

part3-

"Chapter Twelve
Time and Inter-dimensional Travel
Is “Time Travel” possible? Is it possible to travel to different dimensions? We really do not understand the unlimited potential of the human mind. The psychic dimension gives us the clue that time manipulation or distortion can make it possible for people or objects to appear in different places at different times, to travel in time, to bi-locate in time. Let me relate some “real-life” experiences pertinent to this subject.
When I was 13 years old I was sitting in an easy chair relaxing and my attention was drawn to a clock that was on a desk. The clock showed the time to be 2:45 p.m. At this point I went into a state of meditation. And I mentally relived the entire past 13 years of my life, incident by incident.
When I awoke from this meditation my attention was drawn to the clock on the desk and I was stunned to see that I had relived 13 years of my physical life in 13 seconds of mental time. This experience is similar to when a person is drowning or involved in a life-threatening situation and their whole life flashes before their eyes. This incident made me realize that there are two dimensions of time, mental time and physical time.
In one particular instance, this was dramatically demonstrated to me. I was doing a brief lecture for some patients of Dr. Barbara. As I delivered this lecture I was standing with my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the whole room was supercharged with psychic electricity. When I was at a high point in this lecture, suddenly the psychiatrist and two of her patients got very excited and they all pointed in my direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What do you see?”
And they all said the same thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being standing behind you on the wall dressed in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we saw him merge into you, walk out through the left of you, go through the wall, and then another identical being dressed the same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of the room with my “lecture” high enough to bring in an Angel or an ET from another world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can bring in beings from other worlds into our room if we can raise the frequency of the room to allow them to “tune in” to the higher frequency.
We are all travelers in time. Everything in the universe, including the universe, is traveling in time. We cannot say that we are traveling in space because space as we know it does not exist in the other dimensions of mental and energy worlds. Space in the physical worlds coexists with matter as a relative convenience, and it should not be defined as an absolute term. It should be defined and experienced in its relation to a particular dimension. Time in its essence is a multi-frequency state of vibration. Understand that everything in the universe, every state of being, is vibrating at a different frequency.
Everything in creation has its own "signature frequency". This is like a cosmic fingerprint. This is the identity and value of that thing or being. If we can alter the frequency then we can manipulate that thing or being by “tuning” that frequency for "“time travel” or galactic or inter dimensional travel.
By manipulating that frequency, an object or being can "travel" or materialize in another world or dimension. We can travel in time, if we can focus our frequency and "tune" in to the frequency of the "target" location, in a similar manner as tuning into a radio station. Each world and dimension has its own frequency band in the same way that radio and television have their separate bands with separate stations."

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 19th, 2007, 10:45am

part4-

"In the 1970s I was present at a meeting with scientists and psychics, which involved a joint project, combining the "Bio-Energetics Institute" of New York City and the "Silva Mind Control Institute". The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were, “in the power”.
As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic named Ingo Swann who was invited to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival.
Then he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my laser weapons at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies.
At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me," stop what you're doing, your face is turning purple".
I have since realized that I reacted to Ingo Swann in this way because my collective consciousness memory “recognized” him as one of the “rogue” scientists who had betrayed our mission and caused my death in Atlantis. It seems as if we each have a collective consciousness that follows us as we reincarnate.
Ingo Swann declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was subsequently working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in the controversial project, Stargate.
I told the director who was Dr. John Pierrakis that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him.
The bioenergetics and Silva mind control experiments were done in the United Nations building using their television equipment. We were able to record on videotapes the magnetic and electrical emanations transmitted by psychics when they were attuned and "in the power".
However, we were not supposed to be doing these experiments in the UN building and in order to continue our work we listed our experiments as meditation groups.
Unfortunately, this allowed the Russians to attend our experimental sessions. We were successful, but our work was dealt a severe blow, when our best videotapes were stolen by the KGB and sent back to the University of Leningrad in Russia to add to their extensive psychic research.
Ever since I can remember, I have had an irrational fear which is a reoccurring vision in my mind, of a bare, grey colored room in a laboratory like setting. Standing on the floor at the far end of this room is a TV console like device which has a large monitor screen which gives off a purple colored light. I am terrified of this device and I know that if I look into this purple light my identity and my mind will be erased.
I connect this vision to a past life when I was captured in an “outer space” war. These past lives memories of fears and traumas are apparently stored in a collective consciousness of past experiences. Psychiatry should expand their therapeutic practice to explore past lives experiences in their patients in order to effectively treat them. It is my belief that very few fears and traumas relate to the present life only. It would be a more effective and comprehensive treatment program if psychiatry and psychic therapy could collaborate."

What do you think? Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 19th, 2007, 10:52am

part5-

"Chapter Seventeen
Angels
I believe in Angels and they form the foundation and reality structure of my belief system. They have saved my life countless times and they have intervened in my life in ways that I cannot comprehend or realize.
I have had many visitations and visions of Angels. Sometimes Angels have come to me not in any humanoid form but as beautiful blue color lights of pure living energy. This blue light would register on my “psychic eye” vision and remain for a few seconds and then dissipate.
When you receive information or communication from Angels or ETs it is not coming in through your normal ears or your normal eyes or any of your normal five senses. The communication is coming in through your "psychic hearing" and you are seeing what is projected through your psychic "third eye". This is an expanded range of your normal five senses.
When I have been in this psychic extended range I have seen the most beautiful colors and heard the most beautiful sounds which were beyond the normal spectrum of sight and hearing. The colors that I saw were so pure and vibrant that even today the colors of this physical world seem like black-and-white by comparison. Our normal physical senses are too low-frequency to receive these higher frequency transmissions.
This has happened to me when I saw the high-voltage or energy form of an Angel. I did not see them with my normal eyes but rather with my psychic "third eye". This could be compared with high definition television, which must be received by a special receiver.
One time when I was writing on a sheet of white paper in my office I saw a microscopic “spark” of brilliant white light that was so bright that the white sheet of paper appeared to be black.
I "knew" that this microscopic “spark” of white light was an Angel, and I had the psychic realization at that time, that this individual Angel could merge with 10,000 other Angel sparks of white light and yet each one of them would maintain their own separate identity.
The sighting of an Angel is interpreted by the, "eyes of the beholder". Different witnesses will see different things based on their life experiences, religious beliefs and expectations. I have been taught that the same Angel who comes to a religious Catholic as Jesus or the “Virgin Mary” will come to the religious Jew as Moses, etc. etc.
I believe that Angels cannot be seen in their true state of being because of their high voltage and high frequency; therefore, they take shapes and forms convenient to the eyes of the beholder. Angels, in their true state do not have wings or resemble in any way the commonly accepted depictions.
Persons who have reported seeing Angels, including biblical accounts, did not see the actual Angels. What they saw were representations of their own mental and religious expectations and beliefs.
Do you recall the famous story of the school children who were locked in a classroom in the school building by a crazy bomber and his girlfriend? Before the bomb was exploded the children saw Angels who looked like the “mother image”, or the female teacher image and these Angels told the children to lie down at the back of the room and they shielded the children from harm and death. This was the representation form that the Angels chose to take based on the expectations of the children.
When I was twenty-three years old, I lived at a YM-YWHA in Manhattan and I lived alone in my room. This was the first time that I had lived alone in a room without my family. This became my opportunity to develop my psychic abilities in a secluded environment.
Every night for a period of about six months when I would go to sleep, I would have a dream in which I was in a classroom. Every night I was in a different classroom. One night I was in the classroom of an old public school that had old desks with ink wells. Another night I was in a junior high school that had the tables and chairs put together. On another night I was in a chemistry lab in a college.
I was aware that the other students in the classrooms with me were not from this world. They were from another world. They all had perfect features. There wasn't a pimple or a blemish on their faces. There wasn't a hair out of place. Every one of them was calm, stabilized, at peace. They all emanated light from themselves. They were perfect beings, compared to me."

What do you think? Irwyn cool


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 20th, 2007, 08:38am

I lived in an active adult community called Kings Isle, which is located in Port St. Lucie Florida, which is on the east coast of Florida, about 40 miles north of West Palm Beach, at exit 121 of I-95. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 20th, 2007, 08:43am

That's a good 200 exits south of me. shocked
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 20th, 2007, 09:26am

Irwyn,

You would be (are) a great teacher. Your experience and compassion is surely energized to help other souls.
I have often heard those who emit purple light; are from a very high spiritual order of what could be called "old' souls; which are souls who have reincarnated into many lives; not only on earth, but in many other existences over a great threshold of time, when meausred in physical earth time years.

Your writings inspire me; and I am sure I can say that for many others. Please let me know when your book is ready for purchase.

Blessings be
EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 21st, 2007, 08:59am

EBS, thank you for your beautiful posting. For those who wish to know more about my background here is a copy of my resume, as appears in my latest book. As soon as the book is published by E publishing I shall post the information. Thank you my friends for giving meaning to my work.

About The Author
Author Irwyn Greif has been a noted psychic consultant, author and lecturer for over 40 years in the fields of psychic phenomena and UFOs. He has counseled numerous celebrities such as William Shatner [Actor],Jerry Orbach[Actor], Dina Merrill[Actress], Arlene Dahl[Actress], Peter Max[Artist], Judy Collins[Singer], Van Cliburn[Concert Pianist], Carol Neblett [Opera Singer], Larry Blackman[Musician-“Cameo”],Dave Davies[Musician-“Kinks”],Dave Herman[Radio Announcer-“WNEW”],Yoko Ono[John Lennon’s wife],Lyle Alzado[N.F.L.],Richard Todd[N.F.L.]and Neil Allen[N.Y.Yankees],
He has appeared on many TV and radio shows including New York City’s, “Two on the Town, Mid Day Live, the Morning Show, A.M. New York, Joe Franklin Show, the Regis Philbin Show”, Long John Nebel Show, Candy Jones Show etc.
He has appeared in articles for many publications including the New York Post, Village Voice, New York Magazine, Vanidades, Sports Illustrated, St. Louis Post Dispatch, Miami Herald, National Enquirer and The Globe.
He has been written about in “Occult America” by John Godwin [Doubleday],”Other Healers, Other Cures”, by Helen Kruger [Bobbs Merrill], The “Psychic Power of Plants” by John Whitman [New American Library].
He is also the author of the book entitled, “The Soul is a Traveler in Time”, [Vantage Press]. He currently resides in Florida.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Feb 26th, 2007, 5:47pm

Here is a very interesting E-mail which I have recently received from one of my corresponding people.

Forwarded Message ----------
OPERATION STAR-GAZER

Friends and Star Kids,

Rarely do Star Seeds and Star Kids get an inside glimpse at how the Cabal make use of the secrecy and classification within military and intelligence units to exploit government units to do their work. Recently I have been contacted by a Green Beret Colonel who eventually worked for the NSA until quitting in disgust a little over a year ago. He now wants to whistle-blow on what he was ordered to do.

During the period 2000-2005, this NSA Colonel was in charge of a 53-man training platoon of super-elite Special Forces, the best of Green Berets, SEALS, and DELTA Force. It was called Task Force White Tail, and its mission labeled Operation Star Gazer.

The training took place at the subterranean Area 51/S-4 complex in Nevada, and concentrated on counter-operations in urban settings, and specialized in dealing with situations involving Star Visitors in close proximity: how to deal with incoming telepathic communication, mental imagery-sending, and mental cloaking by the Visitors of their actual appearance. The training also involved function and use of advanced weapons that subdue, immobilize or terminate Star Visitors, as ordered.

The training also encompassed dealing with Star Seed adults and even Star Kids, who have double-handfuls of psychic and other paranormal abilities. Task Force training involved how to evade, confuse, and dissemble, so as to throw off the Star Kids'/Seeds' "reading" of the Special Forces operative, how to counter their psychic abilities with countervailing psychic force, or psychotronic or other directed-energy weapons devices, how to break them and super-interrogate them.

At a more exotic level, the training included psychological instruction in how not to be attracted to, or drawn in by, these Star Seeds/Kids, and how to try to win them over to join the group that put on this training. The Colonel said there was more training involved, but felt he has said enough with this.

The broad implications of training like Task Force White Tail is that the Cabal (see: http://www.drboylan.com/cabal.html ) foresees and is actively planning for the day when the UFO Cover-Up falters, and it is "necessary" to round up Star Seeds who could cause the Cabal trouble, and to interdict and subdue any Star Visitors who are on the ground.

At first, his special-branch NSA superior officer did not tell him what the psi and other special training was for. But the Colonel kept pushing until he learned what the actual objectives were. Upon learning these, the Colonel lost stomach for being further involved in such an enterprise, and resigned.

And upon further reflection, he decided to reach out to one or more other Star Seeds to see what could be done about thwarting this Cabal instrumentality's horrific plans. He then contacted me, and divulged this information.

And now you have it.


in the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Mewtwo on Feb 27th, 2007, 04:49am

Thank you, Timetraveler, for disclosing this information though the reference might be hard to verify, still there is something which gives me a sense.
Throughout all my life i was times to times counteracting individuals and psychic agression coming from them, which is nothing more than the forces you describe as subject of training for Operation Star Gazer.

Which doesn't mean to say that these counter forces are stronger than we are, but they are always present , in some or other form, in order to immobilize possible involvment of E.T. intelligence, the good one, into human society as active element etc.
I suppose that there are both kind of e.t. intelligencies present around Earth , and that human opinion on them is quite perverted in general and on purpose, so that ordinary humans don't even know what's being done through them.
Even if you have , i'm refering to myself now, kind of psychic training and keen sensitivity which could function intelligently in good environment, further you go with training, coming back to this world immediately you are connected to people who take care , that you don't use even one hundreth of your abilities correctly and they work on you with care long enough just to strip you of every possible power you gained and block your self esteem in such way, that you never decide to interact.
Which doesn't mean that we are helpless or totaly loosing, because there are positive forces too , which are here and always around to ensure some sort of stability and rescue , but from my personal experience i admitt that there exists effective counter training and perverted psychological interaction, which can break down easily even the most gifted individual when subjected to it alone and in worst case could lead even to death of such individual.

Who stands behind these forces is not yet clear to me except whatever i recognized as other e.t. intelligencies and people submitted to them.

I don't feel really extra as writing this on board but want to say thank you ...

grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on Feb 27th, 2007, 06:06am

I see the forces behind things as a myriad of factions, one of them being the fishbowl. No kidding. What are theiur reasons? Bah, they never give a straight answer.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Feb 27th, 2007, 12:05pm

Timetraveler

That is an amazing revelation. I look forward to reading many more of your postings on this. I have always been interested in what Dr. Boylan has to say too.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 4th, 2007, 08:44am

I never left you. I am still the active moderator of this forum and I appreciate all of your replies and postings. UFOcasebook has the most intelligent and interesting people.


What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by GForce on Apr 4th, 2007, 11:10am

Irwyn I'm glad to see you're back posting! I for one have missed your insight. Dan
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 4th, 2007, 5:46pm

FYI....My latest book is entitled, "Other Dimensions of Reality" and it is being prepared for publication by Filament books as an electronic publication. This is a modern way of publishing books and requires a monitoring or reading device in order to read the books. The address is www.Filamentbookclub.com. This same publisher also publishes Fate magazine and UFO Magazine. I am very happy to finally have my book published to be read by people interested in psychic and UFOs. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 6th, 2007, 12:05pm

Our Guardian Angels, not only protect us, but they also have a sense of humor.
When I was growing up in Brooklyn I had a teacher named Mrs. White in the sixth grade as my homeroom teacher. For the one-year that I was assigned to her class she kept picking me out to humiliate me. When I entered her classroom she had me sit on a high stool and she insisted that I wear a dunce cap on my head. She kept referring to me as the classroom dunce. I could not understand why she did this and why she was picking on me in particular. When it came to graduation time to go into junior high school, she came to me and informed me that she was giving me all red Ds on my report card and that I would be left back and not allowed to graduate. I was very upset by this and I went home and cried to my mother that I was going to be left back.
Then, graduation day arrived, and she handed out the report cards. Sure enough I had a red D in every subject and there was her recommendation on the report card for me to be left back. Underneath her recommendation was the notation that I was to be graduated to the seventh grade "rapid advance" class. [The rapid advance class was a class for geniuses].
Mrs. White was furious, and she grabbed me by my arm and marched me to the principal's office and demanded that I be left back. The principal informed her that she had no control over this matter, because one year earlier the students were given IQ tests and whoever had a high IQ on this test was automatically promoted to the 7RA class. So, instead of being left back, I was promoted to the high intelligence class.

Several years later, I read in the newspaper that Mrs. White was fired by the Board of Education because of anti-Semitic behavior. I am Jewish. My Guardian Angels not only gave me justice but they did it with a sense of humor.

Do you have any stories similar to this?

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by GForce on Apr 6th, 2007, 12:37pm

Irwyn, the summer before I started the 5th grade I fell from a treehouse and it almost killed me. I spent most of the 5th grade doing work at home. Today it would be called home schooled. The fall left me with a speech impediment that took years of speech therapy to overcome. The 6th grade was my first full year back and of course I had a teacher who remembered my brother who gave her problems. When she heard I had a speech impediment she would ask me questions during class and them make fun of my disability. I stuttered the most when I was nervous and I was always on pins and needles in her class. I guess it was her way of pay back. Anyway one day after one of her "Da, Da, Danny Da, Da Do You Knooo, Knooo Know The Answer?" routines. She got hers. We were going to watch a movie in class and as she was pulling down the projector screen it broke free and smacked her on the head knocking off her wig but it also put a knot on her head. The entire class broke out in laughter. After class as she stood by the door I made sure I was the last one to leave class. I walked up to her and said Mrs. Burton that was God paying you back. I said it without stuttering. In fact after that day I only had brief moments with stuttering. By the 7th grade I had overcome it. So Irwyn you are right. Guardian Angels do have a sense of humor. I didn't realize it at the time but I do today. Dan
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 8th, 2007, 1:55pm

GForce, thank you for sharing with us this very dramatic experience. Do you realize that similarly to me you had a double miracle at that time. Not only did your Guardian Angels give you justice but they also removed your speech impediment. How about that? Angels are the most powerful Beings I have ever experienced and I have learned that they not only help you and protect you, but they also are in charge of your "life plan". If they feel that you have learned your life's curriculum they have the power to exit you from this life. On the more positive and beautiful side, they have the power to create miracles to heal you from incurable diseases and in some cases to raise you up from the dead[usually within three days of your death]. This has been demonstrated so many times when patients have been pronounced dead on the operating table and then brought back to life, or when people have fallen into a freezing lake and pronounced dead and then miraculously revived. I believe in Angels and the miracles that they are capable of performing. This is the foundation of my belief system.
What do you think? Irwyn cool

PS, my teacher Mrs. White also wore a wig. What a coincidence!
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Apr 21st, 2007, 11:29am

I just received this e-mail from one my correspondents, which shows UFO photos. I am posting the website address;


www.nationalufocenter.com

What do you think? Irwyn cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 1st, 2007, 4:12pm

If you are asking the question, how do I learn to think on the highest possible level? If you set your ceiling high then you can raise your level of understanding. The first step is to realize that all conventional religions are man-made and have been adapted to fit the structure of that particular church. The Creator or God cannot be identified or characterized or limited to any individualistic entity. The Creator is pure energy and has no sexual connotation. The easiest way to understand the higher reality is to realize that the Creator cannot be separated from "Its" Creations. Therefore, you are dealing with a "oneness" which cannot be divided or separated from "Itself". The highest Being that we can concept is an Angel. If we believe in Angels, then we are making contact and communion with the Creator and Creation. This is what I believe.
What do you think? Irwyn

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by spearcarrier on May 1st, 2007, 4:15pm

"The highest Being that we can concept is an Angel."

I do disagree. I've seen them, they're nice and all but... as they serve something that is even higher than they are, then it logically follows that we have a higher conception.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on May 1st, 2007, 9:06pm

I believe that the omnipotent intelligence that I refer to as God; is the master creator of everything. Therefore; in my conception of beliefs; it would put God higher than angels; as angels perhaps would be agents of God. But we as SOUL are part of the same fabric; rather it is intellgence, energy, or some other thing that as conciousness goes, that we cannot perceive the full aspect.

I believe that we are on earth; to learn things on the earth school; to navigate around the world and interact with other SOUL's and develop skills which at death; we return to the ethers or a higher spiritual plane.

As for manmade religions, often someone who is spiritually adept; can perceive things perhaps more than others can, which creates a following; or church where people feel comfortable. Some belong to certain churches because when they were children, they are made members because of the choice of parents; while many others will move on and join a different path; because they may find teachings that are more aligned to their spiritiual unfoldment. Some people will become teachers or masters while others will be more a follower; or in some cases; they enjoy roles in both being a student and teacher. Perhaps one aspect that aligns people to different teachings; or in some cases, no certain teachings or path; is life experience. Something happens in their life that closes the pages on one belief system; and opens a new page on a new belief system. Is one more right than the other? If someone asks me that question; the best way I would answer it is to follow their heart; if you feel comfort in a certain path or idea; then explore further; see if it opens up SOUL and you feel reverence and joy. If that does not happen then perhaps that is not the right path to follow. Some are content following no path what so ever; they accept the moment in time as it is; and look forward to the next moment as it unfolds. Some believe our concousness survives physical bodily death; while others believe there is nothing after the last breath.

Is one right and the other wrong? There is no way to genuinely answer that question for another SOUL; as each SOUL experiences what they need to experience to unfold.

Something that I beleive in is reincarnation. Twenty years ago; I did not believe in this aspect; nor did I even believe in God! I was more an athiest; until I had a NDE type experience in 1990, on Christmas Day.

Perhaps something in the Seat of my SOUL, was dormant until that moment. What ever happenned, something inside me awakened. Since that time, I have had visions (dream, imagination, actual other worlds) which I cannot answer the what they are; but do know I see something beyond the viel of the physical five senses. What I have learned thus far, is that I beleive there are spiritual masters who are teachers to certain souls over many lifetimes; there are healers, and their are even dark entities; in which case; I see a duality of good and evil. Perhaps our creator gave us free will; to choose which side we want to be on; and perhaps, during numerous lifetimes (for those who share in the belief of reincarnation) we have lived lives in doing good, while perhaps in other lifetimes, we did things that were not so good. Perhaps it is all part of the learning curve for SOUL or spiritual unfoldment; where we are unfolding and learning new things with each passing moment on the timeline. Perhaps beyond our five sense; the timeline is a place we can visit in the future or the past; as it may only be a reference thing for the physical world. (to be continued).
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on May 1st, 2007, 9:26pm

Continued from previous posting....

Maybe the timeline does not exist; but rather a way of referencing something that happenned in 1980, or could be 1999, or 2007, just a way to reference a memory or event.

Even tomorrow, my beliefs could drastically change from what they are today; if some event unfolded that challenged my beliefs to where they are today. I believe my beliefs are evolving based on life experience.

I am not sure if God or a higher intelligence would see me as a "monkey" or a interdimensional genius of a spiritual adept that can travel time, space and other planes; but regardless of what reference to intelligence could be made; perhaps as SOUL, the parameters in which our intelligence or lack of intelligence could be measured could be meaningless.

If we die and there is nothing afterwards; then the most intelligent or gifted beings would cease at the moment of death. But perhaps the deaf and mute person who was unable to learn arithmetic or language because of the inability of two of their five senses does not mean they are less intelligent; quite the contrary; the way they see the world could be different; but perhaps on the scale of SOUL, they are thriving and learning well beyond what people are without those limitations.

Perhaps as adults, if we could relearn to see the world though the eyes of a young child, we would not be subjective to measuring people as smarter or less intelligent than others, we would not discriminate in the way we see people or things; we would not want to see disputes resolved with weapons of destruction. We would probably want everyone to be good to each other in the purest and most loving form.

From a young age, people start learning discrmination; by segregating some as smart, some as less intelligent, some as atlhletes, others as non inclined to be atheletic, where the media starts making people believe that beauty rests within certain physical features and measurements; rather than seeing beauty as a person being a SOUL. If we did not have physical bodies, if we did not have money to measure success as wealth, or things like that, think of how the world could be. Perhaps the darkness of the world is getting attached to things liike material wealth, segregating people by race, sex, religion or creed, building borders to keep people in or out of countries or even buildings, regardless of the scale; borders even on school yards, to keep girls seperated from boys; is a way of enacting segregation. Imagine how intelligent entities on other worlds or spiritual planes would see us? Imagine how quick a war would end between two countries on earth; if we were suddenly told an alien aramada of crafts were headed toward earth to wipe out humanity? Our priorities would change drastically and quickly. I am using these things as illustrations to show how beliefs or ideas could change in a moments notice.

When we limiit ouselves to our five senses in seeing the world and universe; it is like being a fish in a pond, not seeing the rest of the world or universe outside of the pool of water in the pond. If we limit our beliefs that all there is; is what is in the pond; we are shutting the doors and ideas on what all their could be beyond the boundaires of the pool of water; and how we see our world and universe now, could be the same way, limited by what we see in a pool of water scenerio.

I don't know who the master creator of all there is; is. But I do believe angels are not the master creator; as their are multiple angels. There had to be one creator to start the process. But then again, if a creator created everything; who created the creator. Perhaps is, is what there is. Always, no past, no future; what is, is!

Then again, I don't really know, as my perception and ideas are limited to what I have seen and experienced in this pond that we call earth. Would love to know what lies on the other side of this pond, say in a neighboring galaxy. Wonder how many intelligent life forms there are? I bet there are many and perhaps we would be surprised in what intellgence is iteself.

Clear as mud?

Just a few of my thoughts.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 7th, 2007, 08:33am

Allow me to clarify. It appears as if you have all misinterpreted what I have posted. The highest intelligence and Being is the Creator.. However, you do not normally come in contact with the Creator. Angels are assigned to contact with you and to work with you. As for structured religions, they have caused wars and genocides and dissension and have prosecuted and persecuted people who were different and who did not conform to their limited and man-made structured doctrines. Religion is as far apart from God as one end of the Universe is from the other. When you can comprehend this concept, then you have moved up to a higher level. As for "free will", allow me to post a true life experience to illustrate that point.

"When I was being developed psychically and when I lived in the Y.M.H.A. on East 92nd Street New York I had this experience;
I was put into a psychic state and my mind was speeded up so that I could see my own thoughts, and as I "saw"
myself thinking a thought, the Angels dictated a whole book to me. The message was very clear. We have free will, but while we are thinking of which direction we will take the Angels prepare the road for us. Their minds are thousands of times faster than ours so we can have free will but it will not interfere with Angel guidance."

The highest contact I've ever had, which I believe was with God [Creator] was as follows;

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I appeared to have what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape. I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The floor consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard, eyesore of black rule of high-end fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane. I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream? Then the strong wind knocked the "dream figure" down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher entity overseeing this entire experience. As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my Soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull. When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and Soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my Soul "home" to its source.At this instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw me toward this beautiful ecstasy. At this time I had no thought of anything on this earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. Only the overpowering joy of yielding to this "Supreme Force". Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it entered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and soon I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements. I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality.
What do you think? Irwyn


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 7th, 2007, 6:56pm

George, most of the times you cannot seek true "OOB" experiences, they just happen.
What I had experienced was not a classical "OOB" experience. I call it a "cosmic consciousness" experience. The difference is that a classical "OOB" experience is a form of "astral projection", which usually occurs either when you are close to death,"near death experiencce"[NDE] or when you will have created an "OOB" experience by intense meditation or mental discipline or when you are "taken over" by Angels, and you are "raised"to an Angel World for a few seconds. Certain Holy men and Shamans are able to create a type of "bi-location" where they can actually be in two physical places at the same time. This is a type of controlled "OOB" experience or "astral projection". There is another type of "astral projection" [OOB], which was performed by the Department of Defense and called operation "Stargate", wherein "sensitive" or psychic soldiers were selected and trained in a form of "mind control". Their "astral bodies" would be sent to a "target" location and would gather information and return to their "home" with a report. These types of OOB experiences are two-dimensional, whereas if you recall, in my cosmic consciousness experience I was aware of three separate consciousness levels. There is a vast difference between my experience, and the other "OOB"experiences, which I have described here. It is also interesting that the experimental "subjects" used in project "Stargate" all suffered residual damage to their minds, emotions, and in some cases to their physical bodies. Certain "travelers" involved in this project, "came back" and reported seeing UFOs and other astral creatures which frightened them. I do not recommend that anybody attempt to mind control or manipulate their mind or consciousness to attempt a controlled "OOB" experience. This will bring you into other dimensions of astral worlds which have some weird forms. I hope that this clarifies the difference between a "cosmic consciousness" experience and various forms of "OOB"experiences.

What do you think? Irwyn

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Irwyn-- 2 questions

1--do you ever seek OOB's (out of body experiences), or do you just accept them if they arise spontaneously?

2--is it valid to seek for them, or better to just accept them if they occur without prompting?
if they do not occur, does that mean they are simply not part of your journey?

George Cohen



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 16th, 2007, 3:00pm

FYI; PART1
by

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

Rarely do Star Seeds and Star Kids get an inside glimpse at how the Cabal make use of the secrecy and classification within military and intelligence units to exploit government units to do their work. Recently I have been contacted by a Green Beret Colonel who eventually worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) until quitting in disgust a little over a year ago. He now wants to whistle-blow on what he was ordered to do.
During the years 2000-2005, this Colonel worked for the NSA, Third Echelon. Towards the end of this period, Colonel "Shadow" was in charge of a 53-man training platoon at Area 51 made up of super-elite Special Forces, the best of Green Berets, SEALS, and DELTA Force. It was called Task Force White Tail, and its mission labeled Operation Star Gazer.
The training took place at the subterranean Area 51/S-4 complex in Nevada, and concentrated on counter-operations in urban settings, and specialized in dealing with situations involving Star Visitors in close proximity: how to deal with incoming telepathic communication, mental imagery-sending, and mental cloaking by the Visitors' of their actual appearance. The training also involved function and use of advanced weapons that subdue, immobilize or terminate Star Visitors,
as ordered. The training also encompassed dealing with Star Seed adults and even Star Kids, who have double-handfuls of psychic and other paranormal abilities. Task Force training involved how to evade, confuse, and dissemble, so as to throw off the Star Kids'/Seeds' "reading" of the Special Forces operative, how to counter their psychic abilities with
countervailing psychic force, or psychotronic or other directed-
energy weapons devices, how to break them and super-interrogate them. At a more exotic level, the training included psychological instruction in how not to be attracted to, or drawn in by, these Star Seeds/Kids, and how to try to win them over to join the group that put on this training. The Colonel said there was more training involved, but felt he has said enough with this.The broad implications of training like Task Force White Tail is that the Cabal foresees and is
actively planning for the day when the UFO Cover-Up falters, and it is "necessary" to round up Star Seeds who could cause the Cabal trouble, and to interdict and subdue any Star Visitors who are on the ground. At first, his special-branch NSA superior officer did not tell him what the psi and other special training was for. But the Colonel kept pushing until he learned what the actual objectives were. Upon learning these, the Colonel lost stomach for being further involved in such an enterprise, and resigned. And upon further reflection, he decided to reach out to one or more other Star Seeds to see what could be done about thwarting this Cabal instrumentality's horrific plans. He then contacted me, and divulged this information.
And now you have it.

"Ghost"
Soon after having engaged in dialog with Colonel Shadow, trust had built to the point where the Colonel's older son, "Ghost" decided to contact me also and share his perspective on how alert Intelligence insiders were becoming to the Cabal infiltrators among them. Ghost is a DELTA Force operator. His military career began in 1996 when he received an appointment to the United States Military Academy, West Point. After graduating, he was assigned to the 101st
Airborne (Air Assault) Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. He was soon promoted to DELTA Force (1st Special Operations Operational Detachment-Delta), with further training at Fort Bragg, North Carlina. Ghost has risen to the rank of Major in the U.S. Army. Ghost is proud to follow in the footsteps of his father, a legend in military intelligence circles, and emulates his high standards and genuine (Constitutional) patriotism.
Ghost gives heartening news from the inside about how many NSA agents that formerly were unwittingly doing tasks (dirty work) for the Cabal have now been wised up as to who was behind their trumped-up orders. These informed NSA "White Hats" are making themselves "disappear"so they are no longer available for such misuse. Ghost tells me that it takes years to properly train an agent, so the loss of these personnel is really hurting the Cabal. Let me have you hear it in his own words.
[Ghost]: "And yes, it is good what is happening within the
Intelligence world. The Cabal's resources (agent-wise) have been greatly reduced within the past year. Although this will not take them out of power, it will keep certain, little tasks from being accomplished with such ease. Either way, it is a fight towards the greater good, and maybe one day we can restore this once-great Nation into a habitable, peaceful place where people can be proud to live, and where the Constitution plays the appropriate role that our forefathers (some of them) intended it to play. We may not live to see that great day, but I have a feeling we will. Everything has a purpose, and nothing happens on accident. We are all part of this fight for good, and I am glad that we met, Dr. Boylan. Without you, I may not have made some of my recent decisions." So, the Cabal is weakening why we are growing stronger. This is good
news for the outcome of the Transition from corrupt Fourth World society to a transformed Fifth World one.
"Sting"
The other night I had an extensive conversation with "Sting", the younger son of ex-NSA Colonel "Shadow", and "Ghost"'s younger brother. Like his brother and his father, Sting is a Star Seed. Sting wanted to make additional revelations, adding to what his father and older brother had shared with me. As with the other two, Sting not only gave permission to share what he revealed with the public, but said that was his explicit purpose in calling. Sting joined the U.S. Air Force in 1998 and graduated from the Air Force Academy. Soon thereafter he joined the Air Force Office of Special Intelligence (AFOSI). His career movement up included assignment to the 16th Special Operations Wing and to the 4th Special Operations Squadron, the "Ghost Riders", with training at Hurlburt Field, within the sprawling Eglin Air Force Base, Florida. The 4th SpecOps is a rapid-deployable unit with global reach, specializing in infiltrating, resupplying, and exfiltrating U.S. and allied special-operations forces during long-range, low-level penetrations of hostile or denied territory at night. Sting moved from there to the Air Force Office of Special Intelligence (AFOSI) in 2006. Sting says AFOSI gives the impression of being a law enforcement investigations unit. It is anything but, he says. While in AFOSI, he received orientation to "aliens" and
related training. This "training" including liberal amounts of
disinformation designed to make sure AFOSI agents carried out orders. For example, Sting says that orientation included a supposed "history of hostile relations with the Star Visitors." The training propaganda was nuanced, with the indoctrination that "a small portion of the Star Visitors are rebels." Sting was quite unsettled as he narrated an incident that made him
decide to leave AFOSI. He received an assignment to travel to Germany and to find a man who was described as "a danger to U.S. Intelligence." Sting did his job and found the man one night. It was dark but he fired a fatal shot. As he drew closer to the dead man on the ground, Sting noticed that the man's pupils dilated enormously in death, causing his somewhat larger than human eyes to become all black. The man had no hair, not even facial stubble. His skin was pale and reflected light in a manner different than human skin would. He was very slender with absolutely no body fat. He was unusually tall. Sting quickly realized that the man was a Star Visitor. He felt he ad "screwed up". He had joined AFOSI to take out enemy agents,
not Star Visitors. He left AFOSI and joined another military-intelligence organization. During his time with that organization, he became aware of a super-elite covert intelligence unit that reports directly to the Pentagon. The unit's rumored cryptonym is "Clandestine Knights". So extraordinary is the mission of the Clandestine Knights that Sting wanted to be sure word got out about it. The Clandestine Knights unit was created in June, 2006. It is composed of five teams of ten-each, made up of super-elite special forces operators, men and women from all Spec-Ops branches of the military: Army DELTA, Navy Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU; formerly SEAL Teams 6 and 8), Air Force SpecOps Squadrons, Marine
Corps SpecOps Command (MARSOC), etc. Sting has learned that the Clandestine Knights is an experiment closely watched by the Pentagon. Of its fifty members half are Star Seeds who are aware they are Star Seeds, and half are Star Seeds who
are not aware of their identity and advanced potentials.
The experiment which a covert branch within the Pentagon is
conducting is to determine the degree to which awareness of Star Seed identity makes a difference in the performance of these special operators in comparison with the Star Seeds who are not aware they are such. I commented to Sting that this Clandestine Knights experiment is a watershed development within the military. I also commented that the outcome of the experiment is an obvious conclusion: that Aware Star
Seeds are going to vastly out-perform Unaware Star Seeds.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 16th, 2007, 3:06pm

fyi tongueart2
Aware Star Seeds are readily able to summon up various psychic and other high-development skills to augment traditional methods, or even stand alone as the superior tactics or strategies of choice for assignment situations.
Unaware Star Seed operators are going to use only conventional Spec-Ops methods.
I told Sting that the Pentagon is moving ahead with its dream of developing the Super-Soldier. (What they may not realize is that the Super-Soldier is not going to follow deceptive or immoral orders.) Also important to note, I told Sting, is that the Cabal are going to derive pointers from this experiment: that it is important to keep Star Seeds in the dark as long as possible about their actual identity and advanced potentials.
Colonel Shadow and his two sons have taken considerable risk and suffered consequences already for sharing this information. Yesterday the Cabal cleaned out a bank account the Colonel maintained abroad, and ran up many tens of thousands of dollars on the Colonel's credit card number. Several days previously the Colonel ran into a roadblock and was the object of an attempted assassination. He narrowly escaped
with his life, although sustained a leg wound.
What are the implications of these striking revelations?
The military and intelligence communities have not only accepted the reality of Star Kids and adult Star Seeds, they have determined that these are the recruits of choice!
Further, the nature of who Star Kids/Seeds are is revolutionizing the way military and intelligence operations are going to be conducted. Skills in marksmanship are going to be supplanted by skills in remote-viewing, telekinesis, and remote-influencing, just to mention three
skill areas. Will Star Seeds cause the military to evolve away from killing and brute force towards a more smart-force operation utilizing such elements as, for example, future-sight, enhanced persuasion, and non-violent containment?
Will Star Seeds cause the intelligence agencies to become obsolete, as these new non-violent (Clandestine) Jedi Knights manage information-gathering and usage in the course of their societal proctoring? In the past, some of us have seen the military and intelligence communities as an obstacle to society's moving into transformed just, peaceable Fifth World.
It may well be the irony of our times that the Star Seeds within such organizations may be among those hastening such an overdue Transition.

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Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC
drboylan@sbcglobal.net
www.drboylan.com

What do you think? Irwyn cool



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on May 20th, 2007, 8:16pm

Mostly I just read over a lot of thease post and at times I find some Ideas kind of disturbing... Why we talk about our Goverment and what they want share with the public and what they hide point and case we voted them into power thru election they did not force their way in unles like some which were pre selected not by vote but by way of the iluminnati... any way some us think that we can out smart thease beings or Gods or perhaps trick them in some manner dont you all have common sense.... Remember thease events has not just began nor any one yet been around goverments of the earths or any one for that matter have flew by or televised ashow saying look what I or we took from Those beings or gods...rember god gave the devil the power to decive he the devil and his troops would be yhe first to brag a bouth their take over of the heavens....AWake stand down you cant force them.... further more whom can account for those humanoid looking beings that look just like you and I .Of all nationnali ties.. the greys the green colored beings are animals to us that talk and fly acraft that we dont under stand ..the power of the most high and theGods under his rank..................think
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on May 20th, 2007, 11:53pm

on May 20th, 2007, 8:16pm, jugement wrote:
Mostly I just read over a lot of these posts and at times I find some Ideas kind of disturbing... Why we talk about our Goverment and what they want share with the public and what they hide point and case we voted them into power thru election they did not force their way in unles like some which were pre selected not by vote but by way of the iluminnati.


Jugement, I'm going to call this post "Don't Break Your Brain". LOL I find it appropriate.

That's why we have such things now called conspiracy theory. They aren't fact, they are theories so don't let them bother you and certainly don't break your brain over them. They don't bother me because I don't believe any of them and feel that they are balogna for the most part.

A lot of people I think get to involved in certain subjects and can't let go and then it becomes them - especially when they stay on a subject year after year after year and never let go.

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any way some us think that we can out smart thease beings or Gods or perhaps trick them in some manner dont you all have common sense.


There are no words to explain their power and it's futile to even try since nobody would ever believe you anyway and those would just be words flowing on a page. I know that our ability to even attempt to compare ourselves to them in any form or fashion is about the size of a cell, or even smaller. lol

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remember god gave the devil the power to deceive


You're breaking your brain again but I can fix the crack for you.

You're saying god gave the devil the power to decieve and you leave it at that. Don't leave it at that, that's a big mistake. You left it at face value. Continue in your thought with a different statement to yourself and different questions that begin with the word 'why'.

For instance, even if he did give him power to deceive, the question is why? Why did he give him power? Why would someone holy give someone evil great power? Was it to deceive us for grins or do you think that the deception had a bigger purpose that was meant to be. Wouldn't God be a step ahead of the devil? Besides that, if deception were necessary and considering God's nature, God had to have hired someone for the deception because it would be against his own nature to do so. So is it a good thing or a bad thing.

Dwell on the possibilities. Spend hours thinking about it all and don't settle for face value. As well, always dismiss the negative because those will slow you down and go nowhere and instead pretend for the moment that good and evil are working side by side. If there IS synchronicity in your life the truth will eventually fall into your lap.

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further more whom can account for those humanoid looking beings that look just like you and I .Of all ties.. the greys the green colored beings are animals to us that talk and fly aircraft that we dont under stand.


They're just people (beings) from a different world who know more about us then we know about ourselves. Besides, it's not as difficult as all that. Don't cause confusion in your own mind over some of the things you read. Remember that much of what you read about aliens (especially on the Internet) is hearsay from someone else who read it elsewhere and then reported it in twenty different directions. After a while it's like a fire and it's out of control and misquoted to death. Besides that, he/she didn't have a single experience to call their own to begin with. That's what I see more then anything on the Internet so take it all with a grain of salt and only trust your own experiences.





Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 21st, 2007, 3:27pm

I certainly did not want to cause any anxiety or mental problems by posting somebody else's opinions. I consider this forum to be open for review of different ideas and theories. When I post any of my personal experiences, they are real. Therefore, I can only answer for my own real-life experiences. I'm sorry if I have caused any distress.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on May 21st, 2007, 5:50pm

WOW Queen OF hearts that old picture by one of your posts do look like the the grim reeper tome also and I laugh to I cried from what you said about it .......
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on May 27th, 2007, 6:20pm

I'm sorry people, according to Snopes.com this giant skeleton article might be a hoax. Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by oljack666 on May 28th, 2007, 09:47am



Good ole snopes, that's what they do best.

Ya know Timetraveler, I tend to find that simple logic is answer to most queries we have. Besides the Bible there is other religious literature out there that depend on Achum's Razor. Basically simple logic that the simplest answer is usually the right one works for me.

For that reason, I simply find that the giants of old were nothing more then very tall and strong (muscular) individuals who were found intimidating due to their size, similar to that in the story of Sampson and his brawn or David and Goliath.



Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 16th, 2007, 09:47am

I'm very gratified to see so many diverse, but interesting theories and opinions. And that's what makes an intelligent conversation. I believe that the conscious mind is the "stupid" mind and that the subconscious mind is capable of communication with entities from higher worlds and dimensions. For me the conscious mind is like my computer, it can only function with input and logic based on information stored in its databanks. Angels and ETs communicate with us in dreams and visions and in putting us into a "trance like" state of mind control. The reason for this is very simple. The information and belief systems stored in the conscious mind interferes with the higher frequency of communication from "higher world" Beings. This creates resistance, whereas the dream state, or vision state are a much easier medium for this type of communication. A good example of this is Edgar Cayce, also known as, "The Sleeping Prophet". The Angels had to put him in an unconscious sleep state to bypass his conscious mind, because his conscious mind was programmed with religious beliefs and concepts. Therefore, he had to be "put under" in order for these higher frequency "inspired" teachings to "come through". Spiritualist mediums similarly receive their inspired teachings, while in a "trance state". Problems that seem too difficult to solve in the "waking" or conscious mind state are often solved by the subconscious mind in the sleep or "dream state". Let us try to understand that Angels and Beings from higher worlds are higher frequency, and they have to step down their vibrations like a step down transformer has to convert a higher frequency to a lower frequency.

Also, we do not receive inspired teachings or messages from the departed or spirits of the dead. They do not have the power to, "raise" themselves, the communication comes from Angels who impersonate the deceased, in order to maintain comfort and contact with human Beings.

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 19th, 2007, 08:25am

As you are aware, mental time is much different from physical time. The departed souls cannot hang around for years to make contact with us. They have to be reincarnated in order to learn. They are on mental time, we are on physical time. The following is an excerpt from my books,

"Sometime ago in 1980's I was studying psychic development with a trance medium psychic called Frank Decker in New York City.

While I was sitting in a séance circle and I was listening to the voices come through the medium, who were identified by the sitters as their deceased relatives, I received this information psychically; that these voices were not the genuine deceased relatives but that Angels in charge of the séance were impersonating deceased relatives in order to give comfort and communication to the surviving relatives.
I was also told that Angels come to people as a character that the sitter can identify with and feel comfortable with. If you're a religious Catholic they will come to you as Jesus Christ or as the Virgin Mary. If you're a religious Jewish person the same Angel will come to you as Moses or Elijah or some other character from the Bible.
I feel that this situation applies to many of the sightings where the experience sees a figure that they can accept either from their life experiences or their religious beliefs or from their imagination or as in many cases from the ridiculous or grotesque. I believe that we are dealing with thought forms from the fourth dimension who can read our minds and change appearance to suit our individual thought patterns."

What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jun 20th, 2007, 07:23am

HI all; JUst a clear Answer to the ufo video taped over brooklyn. N.y post here today 06 -20- 2007. April 2007 by grosdada6. youtube. the acupants are angels. MIND YOUR MIND For THE Jewels OF YOUR SOUL. 100% sure cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jun 21st, 2007, 1:10pm

NOW HERE IS A TRUTH NOT A STORY = WHICH equals A lie; GOVERment JESUS AND WHY THEASE great stories or lies are told yes in code my story or truth which it is mytholigy= myaccount.WHEN A FISHERMAN GOES OUT TO SEA AND RUNS INTO A BAD STORM HE DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE BAD WINDS OF THE STORM HE CHANGES HIS SAIL. SO I ASK YOU AGAIN WHY IS It THAT THE CAP STONE ON THE BACK OF THE ONE DALLAR BILL IS UP THE LITTLE PYPRAMID? ARE WITH ME ? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY YOU KNOW TO BE TRUTH? MIND YOUR MIND FOR THE JEWELS OF YOUR SOUL. grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:05am

In Revelation chapter 13, describes the Beast out of the Sea.

Verse 2:

"...The Dragon [Satan] gave the Beast his power and his throne and great authority."

Verses 7-10:

"He was given power to make war against the saints [Christians] and conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation. All the inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb [Jesus] that was slain fromt he creation of the world.
He who has an ear, let him hear.

If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity he will go.
If anyone is to be killed [anyone kills-depends on the manuscript] with he sword,
with the sword he will be killed.

This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints."

Now, here are some references as to what different sects believe:

Why does God allow the beast to conquer the saints?
At times God permits [note the verb, was given, vv. 5,7] defeat and suffering. It looked like Christ was defeated on the cross, and at times in history, it has seemed as if God's people have been defeated. But ultimately Christians will prevail because God in Christ has prevailed for us.

Who is destined for captivity or execution?
Certain saints. Christians can expect persecution, and God allows some to be captured or killed. Christians are called to accept what God allows. That requires patient endurance and faithfulness.

In other words, it is a test of faith. God is tough and he never pretended to treat us with kid gloves.

Now, I personally believe there is a reason for everything. Things like this do not happen just by mere chance. That is wherein my faith is. That there is an overall purpose for these things, and even though we may not be able to see it, doesn't mean it is any less significant.

I know, I hear that more than anyhting...If there is a God why does he allow for bad things to happen to good people? The idea is to allow God to be God and the human to be the human. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jun 23rd, 2007, 1:41pm

HEY nephilim and all of you;you know it is amazing how we bow down to GOD, but all thru the bible and the history of prophets apostles the whole 9 the devil has the say so in the begining and the end. take moses for enstince god would tell moses one thing to go and tell the pharoh about leting those people go yet the devil runs a head and fixs it for the pharoh not to do what god has told moses to ask the pharoh. now can you amagine runing 40 miles back forth which equeal 80 miles both ways for forty years. Is god a jokester? now let us look at JOb ;god and the devil makes a bet on this mans life wheater he disobays god ; now the bet is on this man got all thease sores all over his body his children got killed and much more. here,s another thing why do god like blood in all thease sacrefices? Is god and the devil one in the same? they seem to make a lot of bets they desrtoy more over with Fire. they put courses on people you hardly ever see the two now a days. ARe they related to Extraterrestrial,s? they seem to only show up when one or two people are around. And that is for a short while. mind your mind for the jewels of your soul. huh
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jun 23rd, 2007, 3:17pm

Jugment-

Satan is an angelic being. At one time he held a high position in Heaven.

It is when God created the physical universe and life within it, did Satan begin to grow jealous.

The main thinking is that Satan was basically the first elitist, in that once God blessed the life in which he created here in the physical universe, Satan then began to accuse [Satan in Hebrew means "The Accuser," so he actually had a different name before this time] the liforms that God created.

Why?

Because the lifeforms were inferior to the angelic beings and Satan didn't think they deserved such a high status, as to dwell in Heaven with the angels.

And here lies the wedge between the fallen angels and the Heavenly angels.

In Exodus [The story of Moses and the Pharoah], it was not Satan who hardened the Pharoah's heart, it was God.

Why?

Because the Pharoah refused to acknowledge God, and he desperatley saught to "debunk" Moses as a fraud. And each plague that was sent by God to the people of Egypt through Moses, was God's attempt to show the Pharoah who was in charge. The Pharoah refused. So, God then had Nefertiti harden the Pharoah's heart, thus sealing the Pharoah's doom, and freeing the Hebrews. The overall good in this being that the Hebrews were freed. It was the Pharoah's choice.

While the Hebrews travelled in the desert, they had to make a stop along the way. This was important as here is when we find Moses speak to God on Mount Sinai and did receive the Ten Commandments.

Also, God gave the Hebrews specific instructions not to send scouts ahead to the promised land. That God would protect them and that once they got there, he would give his people what was neccessary to attain the land. But the Hebrews somehwere along the lines lost this faith, and they sent scouts ahead anyways. When this happened, is when God said that none of that generation was worthy to enter the land. That it wasn't for them any longer. It would be the next generation that would attain the land.

Job is a good example of how God not only wants us [physical lifeforms in this universe] to be with him. How much more for the angelic beings! God is the father where Satan is like the little immature kid who is huffy and puffy and who rebels against the parent's wishes. Does the parent not want the child to come back to them and understand? Punishment is not God's way of playing a cruel joke, it is because he wants them to come back to him.

It is said that to not discipline your child means that you do not love your child very much, because an unlearned child grows to become a monster. No parent [who cares] wants to see this happen. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jun 30th, 2007, 09:17am

Nephilim; we will never understand the meaning of Life and the "Creator's" role, and our involvement if we keep the window of our understanding narrow. We must learn to think like Angels, or we are one level higher than the monkey. Let us start with higher logic. The "Creator", as described in the holy books of the Hebrew Torah Bible, cannot be named, or described or even understood. The "Creator" is not a "He", or "She" or even an "It". The "Creator" is not an individual entity and is not a father figure. The references in all of the religious books to God does not describe the "Creator". The Creator can not be individualized, or separated from Its creations. The Creator is everything, both the uncreated and the created, and is best described as Energy or Spirit. Can you comprehend this? I've attempted to explain this in my latest book, entitled," Other Dimensions of Reality" which is due to be published imminently electronically by Filament E-book publishing.


What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jun 30th, 2007, 12:13pm

hey timetraveler; what you are speaking of is the all in which we can only be a part of . I know that will be a good book . cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jun 30th, 2007, 3:29pm

Ok, but in that same sense, God is all of those things as well. God is a father figure no doubt about it, but that is not all God is. I understand what you are saying, yes. I realize God has like 42 names in the Torah, and I do appreciate the fact that nobody can fully summerize or understand the essence of God...that's what makes him God smiley

Don't read too much into me refering to God as a 'he,' it's just and expression, you know what I mean. I am not Hebrew, nor do I know all of God's names. I do not think anyone should know every name of God. The more a word is repeated the less meaning it has, so to preserve a sort of sacredness and respect, it is not wise to repeat the names of God. So, 'God', to me, is the best thing to say when in conversation.

It is probably true when you say we won't fully understand the meaning of life, I do not think we are meant to, not in this form and not in this realm of exsistance anyways, and perhaps not even then. God is truly a mystery and I think it is this way for a reason. I do however believe that we can know certain aspect of the Creator and the Creation, that which pertains to us.

I would be interested to read your book though, post an update when the book is up?

I don't know if you saw this post by me in another thread, or perhaps you are already aware of this article? Check it out, pretty cool. smiley

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=angels&action=display&num=1183150628
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 3rd, 2007, 2:19pm

When you can rise above the clouds of confusion and see clearly, then you'll be able to see and understand the real story. The Creator is not explained in any Bible. The Bible makes many references with a multitude of names and titles, such as God, the Lord etc. But this is not the Creator. The entity who was chosen to be in charge of the education of the Creator's Souls was the Angel Jehovah, who then made a partnership with the Angel Satan for this purpose. This partnership is so clearly described in the Bible when Jehovah, [a.k.a. God] decided to test Job and Satan, his partner, played the role of the bad guy to assist in this test. Jehovah is not God,[the Creator], but has assumed the title to satisfy his egomania. His contract runs out between 2010 and 2012, when the Angels of Light arrive to audit his performance. That is why the laboratory UFOs have been rushing for the past 200 years to create a hybrid race to replace the defective human race that was under the supervision and the authority of Jehovah. Jehovah intends to present the new hybrid human race as the result of his work.

Just to set the record straight, Jehovah did not design or create the bodies of the Human race. That task was subcontracted to the Saurian race, who are a fourth dimensional race that is proficient and skilled in designing and creating bodies. The "greys", are artificial intelligence creations of the Saurians, and they are trained to perform many tasks including genetic engineering. This information was given to us by some abductees who challenged a Dragon like Saurian, who was apparently in charge of the "greys", in a UFO. When the abductee said to the Saurian," you have no right to violate my privacy or to conduct these invasive procedures on my body", the Saurian replied," we have the right, because we created you".


What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:38pm

whats up timetraveler;the only part of the human body that was fashion by god is the human brain; if you read in gen;you will find the blue prints of man kind which started on mars, I can show you the blue prints in the bible yet about the orgin of us from mars I will have to refer you to the face on mars, you see that it has noy only human like features yet it has ape like features that in which we are a part of as well as riptilian dna ,in us as well, now I ask a question again where we created from mud or sand or clay? my aswer is neither that would not be the natural order of things. now here this just like god is not a name the same aplyies to adam which means dust of the ground in which the food we eat grows from and the people was called adamites his name was kedmon; you know something we eat foods that has a short life span ,such as a grape very short life span.here what we eat is the results of our life sran. now we eat meat but first we have to age it to eat it by cooking it .still bad because of the posins and our 20 to 30 feet dejestive system, when a lion eats raw meat it is okay he or she is design for all the posins from the meat by their dijestive system being only 1 foot long and right by their rear end , which makes it easily form them to rid them selves of those acids and poison from much meat consumption. and in short the mind is like water, you can not keep neither contain, they both are constanly on the move ,you can put water in a container and seal it off ,yet water will find away out it will disolve or seep out it evaporate into the amosspere and then it rains we drink it and then we release it back water is constanly on the go so I ask you where is it going and where is it coming from, those are just some of the unque things about water we need it to live and it can kill one by drowning , so now is water a god? winkoff topic some times when I mispel a word I know I not the best speller or writer either by far yet at times like in the forum why et want reveal to the world what they are , something hits my hand to another key while typing , and like I said we can come up whit all kind of gessing both sides up their agree on one thing , and that is (nothing happens before time and when it happens it is on time and in time ) not before or when we think it is ready for us check it out for your self that goes for the goverment as well dont you think if they knew the hole of it they will be braging and showing it off , the goverment is human just like us so think why would they get better treatment than us they only get cures for some deases and some reverse tech ,so now if it reverse tech and not the original the top scientist cant comprehend the knoledge that et is giving them not only can they not read the language, think, MIND YOUR MIND FOR THE JEWELS OF YOUR SOUL. cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:43pm

Let me ask you, what is to stop aliens from lying?

The 42 names of God have nothing to do with English words. They are Hebrew and they are not just names, they each have profound meaning.

I do not believe God is some egotistical being, as if a false diety.

I do not believe that God and Satan are "partners."

If one reads the Book of Job, then you can clearly see that God is God, not some equal partner to Satan.

God is refered to as the Creator. The Alpha and the Omega. the beggining and the end.

Jesus warns folks not to be decieved.

I do realize there are some loose ends, and I do not claim to have all the answers, but I have my beliefs and they are strong. smiley

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:17pm

the alpha and the omega are just greek alphbet how could Jesus be the all god first off why would god need to pray the lord prayer shows that because he says our father who art in heaven not me jesus who is in heaven you see nephilim you need to open your mind and not say because of what you was taught by some one that you was sure they was completely right . yes time traverler is right they was right and you have separeate god from angels and which god is you hear speaking. now check egypt is the oldest living and running civilazation ever that we know in recorded history no in the alphbet their was no j or g so now what was their name before english, back to egypt america has apyimid on the back ,also hitler went to egypt and all others including jesus and if you read correctly you will see that the god sent them their to what learn. grin dont let your anger get in the way of truth people say they want the truth and once they get it they put up a fight not toinsult you by no means the devil will fight to keep any one from knowing the truthand the truth hurts some people because they have the spell of the devil so there for they can not stand the real truthby the spell of the devil have given them all their lives they have been a lie. rethink and open your minds dont belive me check it out . cool belive=be - lie- to -eves -children=belief continue on if thats what you all want to live you rlife in confusion because thats what satans job is yet his time is up ,we are living in the time of light and truth we are felling the after afects of the devils rule, it takes longer for some to grab hole to this new age .what do you think time traveler. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Jul 3rd, 2007, 9:59pm

The Bible is not the oldest Religious text printed, and is fairly modern, compared to some earlier writings, and practices that long pre-date the biblical era. My personal opinion, is that the Bible should be called biblical error and not era.

There is a web page that gives examples of some of the more common religious texts that have been written;

http://www.cftech.com/BrainBank/OTHERREFERENCE/RELIGION/HolyBooks.html

The Analects A collection of Confucius' teachings thought to have been recorded by his students. They are considered the only sayings that can safely be attributed to him.

Bhagavad Gita A Sanskrit poem that is part of the Indian epic known as the Mahabharata . It describes, in a dialogue between Lord Krishna and Prince Arjuna, the Hindu path to spiritual wisdom and the unity with God that can be achieved through karma (action), bhakti (devotion), and jnana (knowledge). The Bhagavad-Gita was probably written sometime between 200 B.C. and A.D. 200.

Five Classics Five works traditionally attributed to Confucius that form the basic texts of Confucianism. They are the Spring and Autumn Annals, a history of Confucius's native district; the I Ching (or Book of Changes ), a system of divining the future; the Book of Rites , which outlines ceremonies and describes the ideal government; the Book of History ; and the Book of Songs , a collection of poetry. Together they promulgate a system of ethics for managing society based on sympathy for others, etiquette, and ritual. Although the dates of these books are uncertain, they were probably written before the third century B.C.

Koran (Arabic, al-Qur'an) The primary holy book of Islam. It is made up of 114 suras, or chapters, which contain impassioned appeals for belief in God, encouragement to lead a moral life, portrayals of damnation and beatitude, stories of Islamic prophets, and rules governing the social and religious life of Muslims. Believers maintain that the Koran contains the verbatim word of God, revealed to the prophet Muhammad through the Angel Gabriel. Some of the suras were written during Muhammad's lifetime, but an authoritative text was not produced until c. A.D. 650.

New Testament The second portion of the Christian Bible, which contains 27 books that form the basis of Christian belief. These books include the sayings of Jesus, the story of his life and work, the death and resurrection of Jesus now celebrated as Easter, the teachings and writings of the apostles, and instruction for converting nonbelievers and for performing baptisms, blessings, and other rituals. The New Testament is believed to have been written c. A.D. 100, some 70 to 90 years after the death of Jesus.

Old Testament The Christian name for the Hebrew Bible. It is the sacred scripture of Judaism and the first portion of the Christian Bible. According to Jewish teachings, it is made up of three parts: the Law (also known as the Torah or Pentateuch), comprising the first five books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy), which describes the origins of the world, the covenant between the Lord and Israel, the exodus and entry into the promised land, and the various rules governing social and religious behavior; the Prophets , including the former prophets (Joshua, Judges, Samuel 1-2, Kings 1-2) and the latter prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the 12 minor prophets), which describes the history of the Israelites, the stories of heroes, kings, judges, and wars, and the choosing of David as leader of the Israelites; and the Writings (including Psalms, Job, Song of Solomon, and Ruth, among others), which describes the reactions of the people to the laws and covenants, as well as prayers and praises of the covenant. Some books of the Old Testament regarded as sacred by the Jews are not accepted as such by Christians; among Christians there are differences between Roman Catholics and Protestants about the inclusion of some books, the order of the books, and the original sources used in translating them. Scholars generally agree that the Old Testament was compiled from c. 1000 B.C. to c. 100 B.C.

Talmud A compilation of Jewish oral law and rabbinical teachings that is separate from the scriptures of the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament. It is made up of two parts: the Mishna , which is the oral law itself, and the Gemara , a commentary on the Mishna . The Talmud contains both a legal section (the Halakah ) and a portion devoted to legends and stories (the Aggada ). The authoritative Babylonian Talmud was compiled in the sixth century.

Tao-te-ching (The Way and Its Power) The basic text of the Chinese philosophy and religion known as Taoism. It is made up of 81 short chapters or poems that describe a way of life marked by quiet effortlessness and freedom from desire. This is thought to be achieved by following the creative, spontaneous life force of the universe, called the Tao. The book is attributed to Lao-tzu, but it was probably a compilation by a number of writers over a long period of time.

Upanishads The basis of Hindu religion and philosophy that form the final portion of the Veda . The 112 Upanishads describe the relationship of the Brahman , or universal soul, to the atman , or individual soul; they also provide information about Vedic sacrifice and yoga. The original texts of the Upanishads come from various sources and were written beginning c. 900 B.C.

Veda The sacred scripture of Hinduism. Four Vedas make up the Samhita , a collection of prayers and hymns that are considered to be revelations of eternal truth written by seer-poets inspired by the gods. The Rig-Veda , the Sama-Veda , and the Yajur-Veda are books of hymns; the Atharva-Veda compiles magic spells. These writings maintain that the Brahman , or Absolute Self, underlies all reality and can be known by invoking gods through the use of hymns or mantes. The Vedic texts were compiled between c. 1000 B.C. and c. 500 B.C., making them the oldest known group of religious writings
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Many religious followings actually stemmed from someone having a dream! Often, many years ago, people had a dream of seeing "masters" who give them information from esoteric sources, perhaps astral level or some other dimensional level. And there are others who after consuming hallucinogenics, had "visions" of spiritual beings. Some of these visions actually planted a seed to where world religions sprung from it, while many others who perhaps had similar experiences, and a small core of followers; disintegrated when the followers in certain generations become deceased.

There is certainly lots of evidence that humans communicated with "space people" by all the art work and carvings in ancient Egypt sites, central America, South America, perhaps Stonehenge was a religous site where certain rites took place. Because of the mortality of the human being, we need to grasp that something could be greater; as what a waste it would be to just be a temporary personality, walk the earth for perhaps six or seven decades if we are fortunate enough to not succumb to illness or some other way of dying.

2012 is getting close and there are many people today who have been channelled messages of some type of new age is about to come. There are hints that hybird race of entities are about to reveal themselves, if what some are saying on the UFO web sites is true. The pole shifts that have long been prophecised by various psychics seem to be aligning to their visions they have shared with humanity. Even the film done by the previous American vice-President (Gore)demonstrates a climate change is in progress. Ocean levels are rising.

Some are even going further and preparing for what they believe are catastrophic changes coming at or about 2012. Underground facilities are being built, while others were built in the last fifty years and even Russia is thought to be building a massive complex in the Ural mountains that could sustain 60,000 people if there is truth to these speculations. Construction data and employee involvement seem to be suggestive of this known as Yamantu.
http://viewzone.com/yamantau.html

After seeing a UFO in 1997, I was very skeptical of alien's or any other beings from outer space. But after seeing a large craft, that stayed airborne, making no noise and big enough to be a large intercosmic barge, my mind quickly changed. This thing was massive, and very unlikely that it was built in a earth based hanger somewhere, as it was so different from anything that I had ever seen before.

I share the same opinon as Irwyn in many of his things that have been discussed over a period of time; and we as humans have to think outside of the metaphoric square box. Society has taught us to accept what "the government or authorities" tell us; but as we know, they don't always tell the truth; or share information that should be told. There have been many people affeccted by toxic dumps and unsafe water, the government knows about it, but does not bother taking action, as it would or could cause undue public panic, so instead of sharing the bad news, they sometimes figure the best way is to deal with litigation suits that may arise after a deferred period of time in the future. Perhaps paying out litigations that are very time consuming; it likely is less costly than it would have been to purchase properties and relocate people.

Evidence is mounting and becoming very suggestive that extraterrestrial beings have been living on the Moon and Mars for a very long time. Did ET tell us to stop going to the moon? Why suddenly stop after the Apollo moon missions? Did they take place or were they fake? Again, the government leaves alot of murky waters to swim through in trying to find out the truth.

EBS

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 5th, 2007, 3:12pm

I know that it is very hard for you to understand what I am trying to say. I am maintaining that Jesus was a man, who was a great teacher of the Essene teachings, but he was not the, "Son of God". The logic that I use is that the Creator is made of energy and is the "Great Spirit" referred to by the American Indian. How does an energy Being produce a "flesh and blood" Human Being offspring? Did the Creator also have a daughter, or second cousin? This religious belief system is so ridiculous, that it defies logic and common sense. Religions are man-made, and they cause wars, dissension and separation of the many segments of Mankind.

If you read the Bible and see the many "tasks" and "tests" and "angers" and "punishments" that "God" a.k.a. the "Lord" has subjected the human race to, then you will realize that you are not dealing with the "Supreme Deity", but rather the Angels Jehovah and Satan, who have assumed the title and identity of the Creator. Do not be fooled by this colossal "Deception". Check this out with your Angels!!!

As to the UFOs interfering and intervening in the workings of "Mankind". Some time ago UFOs purposely overloaded the Niagara power grid in the Northeast of the United States in order to to see how millions of people would react to this massive power blackout. They controlled this experiment so that in spite of the enormous magnitude of this catastrophic event not one person lost their life in this catastrophe! In another example of UFOs intervention, some time ago, moronic scientists decided to map the contours of the planet Earth by detonating a massive atomic bomb at the North Pole. UFOs had to intervene by "cushioning" the disastrous shockwaves from this explosion to prevent the Earth from being knocked out of its orbit and all life on this planet destroyed.
In another instance of UFOs intervention, they "kidnapped" two or possibly three Mars space probes which posed a threat to the Solar system. Can you imagine NASA trying to explain how these space probes disappeared from their monitors? So, as you see, UFOs play an important role in protecting and safeguarding the Human race from self-destruction.

Try to see the "big picture" and realize that the entire Universe is connected and that all of its parts are dependent upon each other for survival. Learn to think.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jul 5th, 2007, 3:29pm

Look, this is a very sensative area for me, and it would be easier for me for one to just cut off my head, rather than deny Christ. wink

No way, no how.

I would like to state that I do not follow any one specific organized sect of Christianity. I do not attend a church regularly, and when I do attend a church service, it is usually at a different church each time.

Do not think of me as one bound to the organization of control, rather a free thinker. I read the Bible, and this is what comes to me.

Other than that, I think I'll politely excuse myself from this discussion. smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 5th, 2007, 9:36pm

NEPHILIM whats up mangrinont give up, check this out.another way to study the bible for acrecy is customs ,tridictions ;thats how they prove that mary madeglene was Jesus,s wife and that he had children. wink
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 6th, 2007, 1:35pm

on Jul 5th, 2007, 3:29pm, Nephilim wrote:
Look, this is a very sensative area for me, and it would be easier for me for one to just cut off my head, rather than deny Christ. wink

No way, no how.

I would like to state that I do not follow any one specific organized sect of Christianity. I do not attend a church regularly, and when I do attend a church service, it is usually at a different church each time.

Do not think of me as one bound to the organization of control, rather a free thinker. I read the Bible, and this is what comes to me.

Other than that, I think I'll politely excuse myself from this discussion. smiley
hey nephilim you made me laugh a good laugh dont leave stick to what you are comfortable with,Ilike you as afriend you listen good , IF good or your god is the one nothing I or any thing we say can change that I am pretty sure god can handle any thing tha comes his way or he would not be god. cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jul 6th, 2007, 4:36pm

Heh, I like you too Jugement smiley

But this particular conversation I have nothing for. Anything more from me on this issue will only bring hostility. This kind of thing is what wars are made of wink

In the same manner I do not wish for my beliefs to be belittled, I extend this to you folks as well. Even when some do go ahead and disrespect my beliefs, In Proverbs it calls for wisdom and for us to overlook such insults. So this is what I'm trying to do, even though the human nature in me wishes to rage, I will refrain.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 7th, 2007, 10:36am

It is not my intention, or desire, to insult anybody's beliefs, or to challenge anybody's beliefs. If you are secure with your belief system then you should be able to discuss alternate theories and philosophies. Do not take any of my postings as a personal attack, or as an admonishment. This is called freedom of speech and individual identity. I have spent most of my 77 years searching for understanding, and I have discarded many belief systems and philosophies along the way. Be strong in your beliefs.
What do you think? Irwyn cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Nephilim on Jul 7th, 2007, 1:30pm

You folks are not going to leave me alone about this are you.

Of course I do not consider it a personal attack by you to me. I never said that though I see how my posts have been taken this way.

It is still a high insult nonetheless, not that I believe this is your intent, but you must try to see it from the other side as well.

You cannot tell a Christian Jesus was just some dude and expect that Christian to walk off with a smile on their face. It doesn't work like that.

You cannot tell a Jewish person God is just some false diety and expect them to be too happy about it.

I'm sure when you think about it, you can appreciate this notion.

So, what is left? "You are wrong, no, you are wrong, no, you are wrong, no...blah blah and on and on..." rolleyes

No, I think I posted my personal opinions while trying not to step on yours. When I realized this was becoming futile, I just decided perhaps I'd step out of this one. Understand that I do not think you shouldn't post your ideas, I never said that. When you throw in freedom of speech in it, you make it sound as if I am here to stop you from speaking in some way, when I never said this, nor did I ever imply it. As a matter of fact if I continued to post my personal beliefs on the matter, it would appear more and more that this was what I was trying to do.

It isn't easy to extend to others their right of belief while keeping in tact your own without getting into a heated debate. I've been around the religious flame war block before, so I see it comming way before it gets here. I am not so foolish as to take that bait. smiley
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 9th, 2007, 1:19pm

Hey timetraveler; I dont have any problem with what you write I enjoy talking with you so will you please come back and post more. your okay in my book.overstand grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 9th, 2007, 3:48pm

I think that many people do not understand the message that a teacher like Jesus was trying to send. I believe that the message was," we are all the "seed" of God, [the Creator]". This makes more sense to me, because our Souls are the same DNA as the Creator. If you can eliminate the man-made rituals and interpretations of religions, then you will have a better chance to commune directly with the higher intelligences. Irwyn cool cool cool

PS, in 1975 I was ordained as a minister of a Spiritualist church by Reverend Rawls in Montréal, but I have chosen not to pursue this title, or to embrace the teachings of the Spiritualist church.

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 9th, 2007, 7:46pm

I agree, and like wise.good to hear from you. grin
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 11th, 2007, 09:59am

Some of you are engaged in a thinking, which is an exercise in futility, and naïveness. The World system that exists today is beyond repair and is rotten to the core. No Human Being, or organization can repair it. You make me laugh when you say that the president will fix what is wrong with this country, or when you expect the leaders of the world to change the way things are. When you think like that you are negating the purposes of the UFOs and not taking into account the roles that higher intelligence Worlds, such as Angels play in safeguarding and protecting our Solar System and the rest of the Universe. UFOs are real!!! They have not been "visiting" us and abducting and altering the genetic makeup of humans, because they have nothing better to do. There is a "PLAN" to replace our self-destructive race with a future race of hybrids. They're doing some serious work, and we should not underestimate their importance.

What do you think? Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 11th, 2007, 8:53pm

I think you are right and on point . hey timetraveler. I have said the same thing on the strange craft topic. you just said it better ,and good and better . I am very please to here from you . talk that talk. only foools duck when the truth is trown at them.overstand grin amos 5;8seek him that maketh the seven stars and o-ri'-on, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night; that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; the most high is his name.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Jul 12th, 2007, 09:29am

I have always held high regard for Irwyn's postings and sometimes it takes me some time to understand the full picture or scope of what is being said, and at times it may appear that I do not fully agree or understand, but life is unfolding in front of me, you, and everyone else and our belief systems sometimes get challenged by new experiences we all go through.

It is clear that Irwyn has arrived where he is today, by having old belief systems challenged and the wisdom he shares with the readers is from his personal experience. In order to understand new philosophies and ways of thinking, we have to challenge ourselves and look beyond the six sided box. We have to look with eyes, beyond the two that we have, and use our third eye, tisril til as some call it, or the psychic eye and learn to trust inuition. Life is an ongoig process.

One thing for sure, if human thinking does not change, than humankind is on the eve (within years) of great tribulation, especially with the type weaopons of mass destruction available on this planet that could get in the hands of people that are not afraid to use them, like these terror groups that seem to be popping up everywhere nowadays. We only have to look at the fraility of some governments who DO HAVE weapons of mass destruction to soon realize a very bad situation could arise very quickly if stability does not come to these places soon.

EBS


Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Luvey on Jul 12th, 2007, 09:36am

Hi EBS

I too have been reading Irwyn's posts for years and agree pretty much with everything he says. He has an incredible amount of wisdom to offer to those who will listen. He has been warning folks on here for years, and I really admire him for never giving up.

Luvey
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Easternbluestar on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:02am

on Jul 12th, 2007, 09:36am, Luvey wrote:
Hi EBS

I too have been reading Irwyn's posts for years and agree pretty much with everything he says. He has an incredible amount of wisdom to offer to those who will listen. He has been warning folks on here for years, and I really admire him for never giving up.

Luvey


Luvey,

THat is so well said, and it has taken me time to absorb all the things Irwyn has said to us and it will challenge many people in the way we traditionally think or understand.

I thank people liKe Irwyn for challenging me to think outside of the box, even when I may agree to disagree on certain things, and it is that way with everyone. It is how we challenge ourselves, by being challenged in the way we think by others, but doing so in an open ended discussion.

Many questions and ideas that I have often tossed around inside my head, Irwyn will come in and write about it, reinforcing things to me that I have been thinking about, so I do know that what he speaks of, is very valid. I know there are masters and angelic beings in other dimensions, but I had never thought about them being alien entities until Irwyn told me about it, and IT MAKES ALOT OF SENSE to me. I cannot speak for others how they feel about the ideas, but for me, I love the way Irwyn challenges me on them.

EBS
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Luvey on Jul 18th, 2007, 03:30am

Here is a link to an interview with Dr David Jacobs, Phd that supports what Timetraveller is saying about the hybrid program.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/aic/davejacobs.html

Luvey
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by jugement on Jul 18th, 2007, 11:10pm

HEY Luvey; that is very good post.her I took an answer from ,DAVID M JACOBS/this is not what I have found .this is very advanced science that we are dealing with. any attemts to try to link it to human science and thus to human imagination have failed. visitor/and in all cases,not once has something gone wrong, no one has gotten away with a picture, a piece of machinery, a scrap of unearthly cloth? I have asked somthink simaler ,stated the same, I will perchase his new book once out. cool
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 23rd, 2007, 6:20pm

I thank you all for your most favorable and supporting posts. When you understand some simple, basic realities, then it makes it easier to understand the "Big Picture".

The Human race is an experimental race which was originally designed to teach Souls by experience. Unfortunately, the Angels in charge of this project, namely, Jehovah and Satan have assumed the roles of "deities" and have allowed the designers of the Human race's bodies the authority to play a major part in their evolution and development of civilizations and learning. The designers of the Human race are called Saurians, and they have taken advantage of their "license" to raise civilizations to their apex and then destroy them. They have engaged in "war games" and in the genocide of certain races. The Human race, does not control its own destiny, the Saurians do.

When you naïvely believe that the human race will change its ways and save itself, you are sadly mistaken. Remember that these higher worlds can see the future, and prepare for it. That is why they are constructing the new hybrid human race to be implemented before the year 2012. They know that the "Angels of Light" will come to monitor them and to examine their work. That's why they are trying to create the new hybrid Human race and to claim that this is their product.

When you ask, what can we do to help to save the human race? You can help by raising the level of your own consciousness, and by communicating a higher understanding.

The evil powers that control this planet must answer to the "Angels Of Light", who are the highest Angels and who are responsible for the care and maintenance of the entire Universe and all of Creation. This "judgment" is indicated in the holy books, as the "Day of Reckoning". This will take place before the year 2012. Do not be concerned with whatever negative acts or actions you have been responsible for. We have all been pawns in this "game". This is all part of the Souls learning.

Try to rise above this World and all of its evil and insanity, and believe that there are higher intelligences which will restore order and balance.

What do you think? Irwyn
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Luvey on Jul 23rd, 2007, 7:48pm

Although I typed this up with someone else in mind, I think it is also very relevant to what Timetraveller is saying. I copied from Michael Talbot's book, "The Holographic Universe".

The Holographic Universe on Aliens.

If UFOs and related phenomena are merely psychic projections, how are we to explain the physical traces they leave behind, the burnt circles and deep impressions found at the sites of landings, the unmistakable tracks they make on radar screens, and the scars and incision marks they leave on the people on whom they perform their medical examinations? In an article published in 1976, I proposed that such phenomena are difficult to categorise because we are trying to hammer them into a picture of reality that is fundamentally incorrect. Given that quantum physics has shown us that mind and matter are inextricably linked, I suggested that UFOs and related phenomena are further evidence of this ultimate lack of division between the psychological and physical worlds. They are indeed a product of the collective human psyche, but they are also quite real. Put another way, they are something the human race has not yet learned to comprehend properly, a phenomenon that is neither subjective nor objective but “omnijective” – a term I coined to refer to this unusual state of existence (I was unaware at the time that Corbin had already coined the term imaginal to describe the same blurred status of reality on in the context of the mystical experience of the sufis).
This point of view has become increasingly prevalent among researchers. In a recent article Ring argues that UFO encounters are imaginal experiences and are similar not only to the confrontations with the real but mind-created world individuals experience during NDEs, but also to the mythic realities shamans encounter during journeys through the subtler dimensions. They are, in short, further evidence that reality is a multilayered and mind-generated hologram.

I’m finding that I’m drawn more and more to points of view that allow me not only to acknowledge and honour the reality of these different experiences, but also to see the connections between realms that, for the most part, have been studied by different categories of scholars, states Ring. Shamanism tends to be thrown into anthropology. UFOs tend to be thrown into whatever ufology is. NDEs are studied by para-psychologists and medical people. And Stan Grof studies psychedelic experiences from a trans-personal psychology perspective. I think there’s good reason to hope that the imaginal can be, and the holographic might still prove to be, perspective’s that can allow one to see not the identities, but the linkages and commonalities between these different types of experiences. So convinced is Ring of the profound relationship among these at first seemingly disparate phenomena that he has recently obtained a grant to do a comparative study on people who have had UFO encounters and people who have had NDEs.

Dr Peter M Rojcewicz, a folklorist at the Juilliard School in New York City, has also concluded that UFOs are omnijective. In fact, he believes the time has come for folklorists to realise that probably all of the phenomena discussed by Vallee in Passport to Magonia are as real as they are symbolic of processes deep in the human psyche. There exists a continuum of experiences where reality and imagination imperceptibly flow into each other, he states. Rojcewicz acknowledges that this continuum is further evidence of the Bohmian unity of all things and feels that, in light of the evidence that such phenomena are imaginal/omnijective, it is no longer defensible for folklorists to treat them simply as beliefs.

Numerous other researchers, including Vallee, Grosso, and Whitley Streiber, author of the bestselling book Communion and one of the most famous and articulate victims of a UFO abduction, have also acknowledged the seeming omnijective nature of the phenomenon. As Streiber states, encounters with UFO beings “may be our first true quantum discovery in the large-scale world: The very act of observing it may be creating it as a concrete actuality, with sense, definition, and a consciousness of its own”.

In short there is growing agreement among researchers of this mysterious phenomenon that the imaginal is not confined to the after life realm, but has spilled over into the seeming solidity of our sticks-and-stones world. No longer confined to the visions of shamans, the old gods have sailed their celestial barks right up to the doorstep of the computer generation, only instead of dragon-headed ships their vessels are space ships, and they have traded in their blue-jay heads for space helmets. Perhaps we should have anticipated this spillover long ago, this merging of the Land of the dead with our own realm, for as Orpheus, the poet-musician of Greek mythology, once warned, “The gates of Pluto must not be unlocked, within is a people of dreams.”

Cont.
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by Luvey on Jul 23rd, 2007, 7:50pm

Cont.

As significant as this realisation is – that the universe is not objective but omnijective, that just beyond the pale of our own safe neighbourhood lies a vast otherness, a numinous landscape (more properly a mindscape) as much as a part of our own psyche as it is terra incognita-it still does to shed light on the deepest mystery of all. As Carl Raschke, a faculty member in the department of Religious Studies at the University of Denver, notes, “In the omnijective cosmos, where UFOs have their place alongside quasars and salamanders, the issue of the veridical, or hallucinatory, status of flowing, circular apparitions, becomes moot. The problem is not whether they exist or in what sense they exist, but what ultimate aim they serve.”

In other words, what is the final identity of these beings? Again, as with entities encountered in the near-death realm, there are no clear cut answers. On one end of the spectrum, researchers such as Ring and Grosso lean toward the idea that, despite their impingements in the world of matter, they are more psychic projection than non-human intelligence. Grosso, for instance, thinks that like Marian visions, they are further evidence that the psyche of the human race is in a state of unrest. As he states, UFOs and other extraordinary phenomena are manifestations of a disturbance in the collective unconscious of the human species.

On the other end of the spectrum are those researchers who maintain that, despite their archetypal characteristics, UFOs are more alien intelligence than psychic projection. For example, Raschke believes that UFOs are a “holographic materialisation from a conjugate dimension of the universe” and that this interpretation “certainly must take precedence of the psychic projection hypotheses which flounders when one examines thoughtfully the astounding, vivid, complex and consistent features of the ‘aliens’ and their ‘spaceships’ described by abducteees.”

Vallee is also in this camp: “I believe that the UFO phenomenon is one of the ways through which an alien form of intelligence of incredible complexity is communicating with us symbolically. There is no indication that it is extraterrestrial. Instead, there is mounting evidence that it,….(comes from) other dimensions beyond space-time; form a multiverse which is all around us, and of which we have stubbornly refused to consider in spite of the evidence available to us for centuries.”

As for my own feelings, I believe that probably no single explanation can account for all of the varied aspects of the UFO phenomenon. Given the apparent vastness of the subtler levels of reality, it is easy for me to believe that there are no doubt countless non-physical species in the higher vibratory realms. Although the abundance of UFO sightings may bode against their being extraterrestrial-given the obstacle posed by the immense interstellar distances separating the Earth from the other stars in the galaxy-in a holographic universe, a universe in which there may be an infinity of realities occupying the same space as our own world, it ceases not only to be a sticking point, but my in fact be evidence of just how unfathomably abundant with intelligent life the super hologram is.

The truth is that we simply do not have the information necessary to assess how many non-physical species are sharing our own space. Although the physical cosmos may turn out to be an ecological Sahara, the spaceless and timeless expanses of the inner cosmos may be as rich with life as the rain forest and the coral reef. After all, research into the life as the rain forest and the coral reef. After all, research into NDEs and shamanic experiences has so far taken us only just inside the borders of this cloud-shrouded realm. We do not yet know how large its continents are or how many oceans and mountain ranges it contains.

And if we are being visited by beings who are as unsubstantial and plastic in form as the bodies OBEers find themselves in after they have exteriorsed, it is not all surprising that they might appear in a chameleonlike multitude of shapes. In fact, there actual appearance many be so beyond our comprehension that it maybe our own holographically organised minds that give them these shapes. Just as well convert the beings of light encountered during NDEs into religious historical personages, and clouds of pure information into libraries and institutions of learning, our minds may also be sculpting the outward appearance of the UFO phenomenon.

It is interesting to note that if this is the case, it means that the true reality of these beings is apparently so transmundane and strange that we have to plumb the deepest regions of our folk memories and mythological unconscious to find the necessary symbols to give them form. It also means that we must be exceedingly careful in interpreting their actions. For example, the medical examinations that are the centrepiece of so many UFO abductions may be only a symbolic representation of what is going on. Rather than probing our physical bodies, these non-physical intelligences actually may be probing some portion of us for which we currently have no labels, perhaps the subtle anatomy of our energy selves or even our very souls. Such are the problems one faces if the phenomenon is indeed an omnijective manifestation of a non-human intelligence.
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Luvey
Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 24th, 2007, 2:14pm

My wife Connie and I have just returned from seven days in Las Vegas. What a waste of time and money. Vibrations are so bad in Vegas, and it was 110°, to make it even worse.

We live in a three-dimensional World. There are seven dimensions to Creation. The third dimension involves physical Beings and physical worlds. The fourth dimension, which is a parallel dimension to ours is a combination of astral and mental Beings. The Universe is always moving, and at this time our third dimension World is very close to the fourth dimensional Worlds, and it is very easy for fourth dimensional astral bodies to "cross over" and take solid physical forms and to engage in mischief or in vicarious "feeding" off our emotions. There are many recorded incidents where "chupacabras" have appeared and UFOs have been seen in the same area. The UFOs did not transport the chupacabras to our World. Certain UFOs have been assigned to monitor them and to transport them back to their Worlds. That is because the "chupacabras" are too much of a threat to our World, and we cannot effectively deal with them. UFOs play many roles, including protecting the balance of life and the life forms of this planet.

Most fables and elements of mythology contain real creatures. Winged dragons, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Leprechauns, Elves and Fairies exist in the fourth dimension. The "Guardian Angels" exist in the fifth dimension and "Angels of Light" exist in the sixth dimension.

I have been attacked many times by evil creatures from the fourth dimension, but my Guardian Angels have protected me and saved my life countless times.

Thank God for Angels, Irwyn cool cool cool

Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
Post by timetraveler on Jul 24th, 2007, 2:22pm

I thank you all for your most favorable and supporting posts. When you understand some simple, basic realities, then it makes it easier to understand the "Big Picture".

The Human race is an experimental race which was originally designed to teach Souls by experience. Unfortunately, the Angels in charge of this project, namely, Jehovah and Satan have assumed the roles of "deities" and have taken advantage of their "mandate" to raise civilizations to their apex and then destroy them. They have engaged in "war games" and in the genocide of certain races. The Human race, does not control its own destiny, the Angels Jehovah and Satan do.

When you naïvely believe that the human race will change its ways and save itself, you are sadly mistaken. Remember that these higher worlds can see the future, and prepare for it. That is why they are constructin