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« Thread started on: Aug 10th, 2017, 10:22am »

If only OUR government would show this kind of support and leadership....

(Of course, over HERE, we'd have to make sure Big Oil gets a piece of the action, er, money...)

Come on, Tesla!





Turning homes into power stations could cut household fuel bills by more than 60 percent


Date: August 9, 2017
Source: Swansea University

Energy bills could be cut by more than 60% - saving the average household over 600 a year -- if homes were designed to generate, store and release their own solar energy, a report published today has revealed.

The concept has already been proven and is operating successfully on a building in Swansea: the UK's first energy-positive classroom. It combines an integrated solar roof and battery storage with solar heat collection on south-facing walls. Over 6 months of operation the Active Classroom has generated more energy than it has consumed.

Today's report looks at applying this concept to homes, and analyses the economic and energy impacts that such homes could have in the UK.

The report is based on designs for the Active Homes Neath social housing development, which was granted planning permission today / is currently in planning. This is the first major housing development to use the 'buildings as power stations' approach to technology integration and specification, developed by Swansea University's SPECIFIC Innovation & Knowledge Centre, which designed and built the classroom.

The new development by Pobl Group, the largest housing association in Wales, features solar roofs, shared battery storage and the potential for charging points for electric vehicles. Water heating comes from a solar heat collector on south facing walls. Waste heat is captured and recycled within the building. The combined technologies will help to keep bills down.

The report shows that homes with these technologies could see household energy bills reduced by 60%.

In addition to consumer benefits, the analysis also shows that building 1 million homes like this would have huge national impacts, including:

Reducing peak generating capacity by 3 gigawatts, equivalent to a large central power station.
Reducing carbon dioxide emissions by nearly 80 million tonnes over 40 years.
Potential benefits to the UK economy through investment in a new industry

The author of the report is independent energy consultant Andris Bankovskis, who also serves as a member of the Panel of Technical Experts, an independent advisory group who are appointed by the government to advise on technical aspects of electricity market reform.

Andris Bankovskis, energy expert and report author, said, "The scale of the potential impacts is compelling, and demands that we make considered decisions about how we meet housing needs sustainably.

It suggests that if we are prepared to take some bold decisions about the way energy is supplied and used in our homes, the rewards could be significant and lasting.

Ofgem and Government have shown welcome leadership recently by consulting on smart energy networks, and it is imperative to move forward with developing these as quickly as possible."

The report is timely as it comes only weeks after the government announced measures to make it easier to store power in batteries, and pledged to phase out new petrol and diesel engines in cars in favour of greener options by 2040.

It follows a series of successful demonstration projects to test and develop the concept, most recently in the award-winning Active Classroom opened at Swansea University's Bay Campus last autumn.

Kevin Bygate, Chief Executive at SPECIFIC, said, "Today's report shows that households and the country as a whole can benefit if we design our homes to be power stations. The technology works, so what we need now is to build on our partnerships with industry and government and make it happen.

"It is great to see the Active Homes Neath project leading the way. We are thrilled that Pobl and Neath Port Talbot Council are taking this forward-thinking approach to housing. It is thanks to them and the shared vision of SPECIFIC's 40 other partners from academia and industry, as well as our funders EPSRC, Innovate UK, and the European Regional Development Fund through the Welsh Government, that we are able to make such progress. It is truly the collaborative cross-sector effort.

Active Homes Neath has been designed under a standard design-and-build contract, which means it can be replicated at scale. We have every reason to believe that a cleaner, cheaper energy future awaits us all"

The 16 new homes are being developed in partnership with Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council. It is a flagship scheme within the Homes as Power Stations project in the Swansea Bay City Deal, a 1.3 billion investment into the region signed by Prime Minister Theresa May in March. Residents are scheduled to move in in Spring 2019.

Ruth McKernan, Chief Executive of Innovate UK, the UK's Innovation Agency, said, "SPECIFIC IKC has been a great success story and a key collaboration between Innovate UK, EPSRC, Welsh Government and Swansea University. Over the period of our funding SPECIFIC has demonstrated their Buildings as Power Stations technology in a number of situations culminating recently in the award-winning classroom at Swansea University's new Bay Campus. The technology can be retrofitted or incorporated into new build.

We [welcome/await] the decision by Neath Port Talbot Council to develop a social housing development with Active Homes Neath. Today's report outlines the benefits of the Buildings as Power Stations technology if developed to its true potential."

Dr Nina Skorupska CBE, Chief Executive of the Renewable Energy Association said, "Efficient homes with integrated heating, solar PV, and energy storage can reduce bills, empower consumers and help us meet our carbon budgets. This new initiative is a good example of the bold innovation and big-thinking taking place in the renewable energy and clean tech industries right now.

"Together these technologies create significant opportunities to speedily address pressures on both our housing and energy systems in one go."
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170809073344.htm

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 10th, 2017, 2:31pm »

Swamp,

It has only one (well, actually more) fatal flaw.

..Together these technologies create significant opportunities to speedily address pressures on both our housing and energy systems in one go."..

You would have to bulldoze flat each town and rebuild it in a form suitable for these technologies to operate efficiently.

I'm somewhat in favour of that; though it won't win any votes

Form follows function, and the form of much of our infrastructure is out of date.

Take the powering of electric cars.

Where is all the electricity going to come from ? I hear that America's power grid is already creaking under the strain. Our in the UK isn't much better.

Imagine all the cars in your town being replaced by electric cars. Does everyone have access to a secure charging point ? Will the inter house power circuit stand the load ?
Will your house and car still operate when the temperature drops for months at a time ? Do you really want to move to California ?

The main problem is that, whilst it is quite possible to greatly reduce one's energy usage it takes some dedication and system management.

Most people just want to flick a switch.

And there is the fact that as soon as a lot of people buy into energy saving, the utility companies will up the prices as they see their profits dropping.

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 10th, 2017, 4:09pm »

on Aug 10th, 2017, 2:31pm, INT21 wrote:
And there is the fact that as soon as a lot of people buy into energy saving, the utility companies will up the prices as they see their profits dropping.

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I like your posts
HAL, let me "pick" a question from your words above.

Are you saying the utility corp, does not "bill" for what is used by the,
one using it ?

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 10th, 2017, 6:08pm »

MOKSHA,

Our utility companies bill you for having the meters in the first place. The standing charge. For me it is 0.52 per day. (Gas and Electric). So I have to pay this whether I use any fuel or otherwise.

If I was to go totally 'off grid' I would have to get the meters removed. But to do that I would have to be sure I had 100% reliability of my off grid source.

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 10th, 2017, 6:19pm »

HAL,
that does seem to be the nitty gritty,
from my point of view.

I was hoping you would get into the math about,
it,
maybe next time.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 11th, 2017, 2:18pm »

MOKSHA,

Not sure which figures you are referring to.

Have you ever watched the videos on Taos County, New Mexico ? There is an interesting one titled, I think, 'Garbage Warrior'.

It shows what you can do to harness freely available power if you pay attention to details like insulation and thermal mass.

it needs a whole new integrated way of thinking to make it work.

Even simple things like the local power supply.

In the US many of your towns have power supplied via overhead wires on poles. This is cheap and easy; minimum disturbance. But every bad winter you spent lots of money repairing it when the wind and ice brings the power lines down.
Virtually all our supply is underground. Only rural areas have wires.

Many years ago I was nearly electrocuted due to an overhead power cable to the remote house I lived in.
One day the wind brought down the cable. I was listening to this arcing noise and leaned against a chicken wire fence. The cable was on the fence and I didn't see this. Luckily I fell away from it.

There are lots of ways to improve energy supply and usage, but they are not considered normal by the authorities. So they won't give permission to use them.

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 12th, 2017, 09:08am »

YES HAL,
I have seen that stuff, it is against the law where I dwell, to go off grid,
if you have a devise that creates energy, you can apply for,
"NET METERING"
https://www.fpl.com/clean-energy/net-metering.html

there is also different tiers,
https://www.fpl.com/clean-energy/net-metering/tiers.html

The devise I was "playing" with is not on their "eligible" list, so I stopped, "playing" even though it was better than overunity.

The figures were how many people would it take to get on,
net metering before the energy cartel would pay the customer,
more than the cartel makes?

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