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EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 24th, 2013, 12:00pm

THERE ARE FEW GLOBAL FRIENDS WHOM HAVE RECOGNIZED THE CRITICAL MASS WITH THE FUKUSHIMA DISASTER.
TEPCO HAS BEEN IN COMPLETE DENIAL...NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES/THEIR FELLOW JAPANESE CITIZENS (WHOM I ADORE) AND HAVE BEEN LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I WENT THROUGH KATRINA...DEEP WATER HORIZON...ALONG WITH OTHERS OF SIMILAR DISASTERS...SANDY...NEED I SAY MORE...
BUT COLLECTIVELY...YES COLLECTIVELY...THESE ARE LIKE A LEAKING FAUCET IN THE KITCHEN COMPARED TO UNLIMITED/UNCONTROLLED RADIATION GUSHING EACH AND EVERY DAY TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN...WHICH THROUGH OCEANIC CURRENTS...ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS TARGETS THE U.S. WEST COAST.
I KNOW THERE SHOULD BE NO ONE WHOM DOES NOT HAVE THAT IMAGE OF DEEP WATERS FAILED CONTAINMENT CAP...BILLOWING RAW OIL INTO THE CARIBBEAN BASIN.
IF A LEADER IN PRECARIOUS TURBULENT TIMES NEED SOMETHING HE/SHE CARED ABOUT...HIS/HER CHILDREN'S FUTURE/AND WANTED TO GALVANIZE WORLD OPINION...STOPPING THIS BLATANT.DISREGARD FOR SEA LIFE...HUMAN LIFE...COULD/SHOULD BE TOP PRIORITY.
OUR SPECIES...ANY SPECIES WILL NOT OUTLIVE THE HALF LIFES OF THIS CONSTANT BARRAGE OF RADIATION...NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE MUTATIONS AND IRREVOCABLE DAMAGE TO THE WORLDS FOOD CHAIN...
THINK NOT...CHECK THIS ARTICLE.OUT THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FEW WHICH HAS BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THIS...MSM...THEY ARE STILL DOING THE PENNSYLVANIA AVE. TWO STEP...BUT...SOME ARE LOOKING...LISTENING...I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T WAIT TILL THEY LOOK IN THE MIRROR ONE DAY AND NOTICE THAT WELL...I DIDN'T THINK I GOT THAT MUCH SUN TODAY...GEEZ...

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/28-signs-that-the-west.-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by purr on Oct 28th, 2013, 1:19pm

on Oct 24th, 2013, 12:00pm, ZETAR wrote:
THERE ARE FEW GLOBAL FRIENDS WHOM HAVE RECOGNIZED THE CRITICAL MASS WITH THE FUKUSHIMA DISASTER.
TEPCO HAS BEEN IN COMPLETE DENIAL...NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES/THEIR FELLOW JAPANESE CITIZENS (WHOM I ADORE) AND HAVE BEEN LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I WENT THROUGH KATRINA...DEEP WATER HORIZON...ALONG WITH OTHERS OF SIMILAR DISASTERS...SANDY...NEED I SAY MORE...
BUT COLLECTIVELY...YES COLLECTIVELY...THESE ARE LIKE A LEAKING FAUCET IN THE KITCHEN COMPARED TO UNLIMITED/UNCONTROLLED RADIATION GUSHING EACH AND EVERY DAY TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN...WHICH THROUGH OCEANIC CURRENTS...ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS TARGETS THE U.S. WEST COAST.
I KNOW THERE SHOULD BE NO ONE WHOM DOES NOT HAVE THAT IMAGE OF DEEP WATERS FAILED CONTAINMENT CAP...BILLOWING RAW OIL INTO THE CARIBBEAN BASIN.
IF A LEADER IN PRECARIOUS TURBULENT TIMES NEED SOMETHING HE/SHE CARED ABOUT...HIS/HER CHILDREN'S FUTURE/AND WANTED TO GALVANIZE WORLD OPINION...STOPPING THIS BLATANT.DISREGARD FOR SEA LIFE...HUMAN LIFE...COULD/SHOULD BE TOP PRIORITY.
OUR SPECIES...ANY SPECIES WILL NOT OUTLIVE THE HALF LIFES OF THIS CONSTANT BARRAGE OF RADIATION...NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE MUTATIONS AND IRREVOCABLE DAMAGE TO THE WORLDS FOOD CHAIN...
THINK NOT...CHECK THIS ARTICLE.OUT THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FEW WHICH HAS BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THIS...MSM...THEY ARE STILL DOING THE PENNSYLVANIA AVE. TWO STEP...BUT...SOME ARE LOOKING...LISTENING...I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T WAIT TILL THEY LOOK IN THE MIRROR ONE DAY AND NOTICE THAT WELL...I DIDN'T THINK I GOT THAT MUCH SUN TODAY...GEEZ...

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/28-signs-that-the-west.-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima

SHALOM...Z


This is so dreadful, and at a scale which makes me feel utterly powerless, ZETAR. I hope the Japanese government is getting the best help available.


purr
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 28th, 2013, 6:09pm

PURR,
IF THERE EVER WAS A CUT-N-DRY/GROSSLY OBVIOUS EXAMPLE OF FROGS IN THE INFAMOUS POT...
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT INSIGHTS WHICH OFTEN IN AN INTELLECTUAL EXCHANGE MAY PLANT THE SEED TO THOSE UNINFORMED/NNOCENTS...OR THOSE @ THE APEX OF TEPCO WHO'VE BEEN THE ACADEMIC PARADIGM FOR THE "PETER PRINCIPLE" (ONE/THOSE WHOM HAVE REACHED THEIR HIGHEST LEVEL OF INEFFICIENCY)...TEPCO IS.LOST...THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE/WHAT TO DO WITH THREE MELTED CORES...MOREOVER...THEY NEVER EVEN FACTORED THESE REACTORS IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY....WOULD FALL LIKE DOMINO'S...THE OLE CHEAPER/PROFIT APPROACH AND IF THE SOY SAUCE HITS THE FAN...WELL...WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE...THERE...HAPPENED 2.5 YEARS AGO AND THUMBS ARE STILL TWIDLING.
SOME ARE LISTENING:

http://enenews.com/nytimes-experts-fukushima-is-having-bigger-radioactive-releases-during-2013-in-areas-blanketed-in-new-conta

APATHY IS RAPIDLY LOOKING LIKE GROSS AND WANTON DISREGARD.

WAIT TILL CIVIL CASES START...I'M SURE SUCH WILL SNAP SOMEONE TO ATTENTION...AND LINE THE POCKETS OF SKILLFUL LAWYERS.
ULTIMATELY...IT DOES LOOK LIKE TEPCO'S APPROACH IS TO WAIT FOR A COALITION OF G-8/G-20/"G's"... TO STEP FORWARD TO OFFSET THEIR ACTUAL/POTENTIAL.LOSSES...
REGARDLESS OF WHAT EVER HIDDEN AGENDA WHICH MAY EXIST...IT IS IMPERATIVE SOMETHING BE DONE....LIKE...2.5.YEARS AGO...

THERE IS ONE SMALL ISSUE MANY ARE UNAWARE OF...THERE WERE THOSE IN JAPAN'S NUCLEAR THINK TANK WHOM GREW TIRED OF THE SATELLITE MENTALLITY BETWEEN THE U.S.A. AND NIPON..."THE BREAK AWAY BUNCH"...I HOPE OUR REACTION/INACTION WAS NOT BASED ON RETRIBUTION....HAVING SAID THAT...COMPASSION FOR ALL RATHER THAN A COMPLETE SELF CENTERED POLARIZATION...IS ALL THAT MOST SEE TODAY...

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:
YEAH...I KNOW...I TRIED THE LINK ALSO...huh...TRYING TO FIND THE GLITCH...THOSE MOTIVATED HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO SEARCH LIKE I DID....WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT...EASY...LIKE IN SPOON TO MOUTH...LOL....ALWAYS.SUMPTIN!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Oct 28th, 2013, 7:46pm

no glitcch they took page down news supressed in japan
go way back machine maybe what you need is here snapshot it wont be there long trust me..

http://web.archive.org/web/20131004144805/http://enenews.com/


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Oct 28th, 2013, 7:48pm

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Oct 28th, 2013, 7:48pm

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Oct 28th, 2013, 7:49pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20130923001531/http://enenews.com/


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Professor: New studies show radioactive materials being carried across Pacific relatively intact from Fukushima — On West Coast we need to monitor these pockets of high contamination — Parts of areas may be affected in a significant way (AUDIO)


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 4th, 2013, 12:31pm

THERE ARE THOSE THAT LISTEN!!!

THE U.S. HAS TAKEN THE RIGHT APPROACH...HUM/INT...FROM THE UNDERSECRETARY OF ENERGY...HIS REACTION MIRRORS THOSE.WHOM SEE THE.PAN-IRRADIATION EFFECT OF THIS DISASTER...
I KNOW OF A COLLECTIVE.OF U.S. COMPANIES WHOM HAVE VESTED INTEREST IN STOPPING THIS THREAT TO.OUR NATIONAL SECURITY/NATIONAL IDENTITY.
1) MICHAEL BAKER ENGINEERING

2) BECHTEL CONSTRUCTION

3) HALLIBURTON

ARE JUST A FEW...
THE STRATEGIC /POLITICAL APPROACH WOULD BE TO COMBINE EFFORTS WITH OTHER TRANS-NATIONAL EXPERTS AS A COALITION OF THE CONCERNED/WILLING...ALL TEMPERED WITH THE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF SECURITY TO EXECUTE SUCH A HUMANISTIC/EXISTENTIAL /GLOBAL PROTECTION PROJECT.

http://enews.com/energy-secretary-shock-stunned-daunting-task-ahead-Japan-america-direct-interest-tepco-doing-safely-video

TEPCO ACCEPTS U.S. AID FOR FUKUSHIM:

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-tepco-us-aid-139

DOMO ARIGADO

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO.ADD:

THE LINK IS SUBJECTED THE HARLEM GLOBE TROTTER SERVER BOUNCE...SO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!
SURE WISH I HAD A FRIEND @ D.D.I.S./F.E. undecided
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 8th, 2013, 5:14pm

"PANDORA'S PROMISE/PROFIT" SHOULD HAVE CONSULTED THIS NIPON EXPERT!!!

http://enews.com/caldicott-50-years-highly-contaminated-water-flowing-pacific-fukushima-vp-optimistic-concerns-long-term-location-melted-fuel-mystery-video/

SHALOM...Z

BOUNCE-BOUNCE GOES THE LINK!....CALDICOTT@ENEWS..
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 19th, 2013, 7:00pm

FUKUSHIMA RADIATION HAS BEEN STUDIED CAUSING THYROID DAMAGE TO NEW BORN BABIES IN CALIFORNIA...TO BE REPORTED IN UPCOMING JOURNALS...

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2164974/fukushima_fallout_damaged_thyroid_glands_of_california_babies.html

THIS WILL ONLY INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY...BUT TUNE INTO "CNN" FOR ALL YOUR REASSURING UPDATES lipsrsealed

MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE PEOPLE OF JAPAN...THE FAMILIES OF THOSE SUBJECTED TO THIS SOON TO BE UBIQUITOUS RADIATION IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE AND THE VAST SEA LIFE WHICH HAS NO VOICE!

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 20th, 2013, 10:03am

FUKUSHIMA TEPCO EXCEUTIVE SAYS..."THIS DISASTER IS A WARNING TO THE WORLD"...RIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH wink

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/nov/19/uk-government-new-plant-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-warning

MY PRAYERS GO TO THOSE ENDURING THIS HEINOUS ENVIRONMENT IN JAPAN AND BEYOND...AND MAY THE WISDOM OF THOSE JAPANESE ANCESTORS REACH THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THEIR PRESENT DAY LEADERS!!!

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 28th, 2013, 6:11pm

WELL..IT'S CLEAR NOW ...AS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS/IS APATHY...IS THAT THE NUKE CARTEL ARE ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM...BUT...LET'S BUILD FIFTY MORE...THAT'LL SOLVE IT...
JAPAN IS THE EPITOME OF A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY...AND THEY ARE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS ON FUKU...TEPCO FUMBLED
( WHILE I MAINTAIN VIGILANT RESPECT FOR THE JAPANESE PEOPLE AND SOCIETY) THE BALL AND SUCH WILL BE PANDEMONIUM FOR THE WORLD...DOMO ARIGATO...
PROFESSOR SAYS..."FUKUSHIMA IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING"
SEA LIFE AT THE GREATEST DEPTHS ARE RUNNING FROM THE CHANGE IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT...THEY ( FOR THOSE THEYERS-ALL SEA LIFE) ARE SIGNALING TO THOSE CAPABLE OF CONNECTING THE DOTS...SHITSKEY HAS IN FACT HIT THE FAN!!!

http://enews.com/professor-fukushima-is-absolutely-horrifying-radiation-will-be-entering-pacific-for-decades-theres-no-end-in-sight-nobody-has-a-solution-problems-are-unprecedented-video

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YEAH...GETTIN THE LINK BOUNCE TO BARNES AND NOBLE...SEEMS TO BE THE PATTERN (S.O.P.)...YEP...ALWAYS ON YOUR WINGTIP...PARANOIA...THAT SELF DESTROYER...HOW MANY LEADERS HAD THAT...TICK...AND GOT PLAYED...
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 6th, 2013, 06:16am

JAPAN'S FUJIWARA...BREAKS T.V. TABOO...SLAMS JAPAN'S NEW SECRETS BILL.
A BILL DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 2.5.YEARS...MORE DIVISION...DISTRACTION...DISINFORMATION...TEMPERED WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF AN INFRINGEMENT OF ONES FREEDOM...DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A DEMOCRATIC BILL...OR.A SPECIAL INTERESTS BILL...THEIR PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW FOR THEIR...LIFE...LIBERTY...AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS...IMHO...

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/09/18/national/fujiwara-breaks-tv-taboo-slams-secrets-bill/#.UqIOLaVRGf0

THE LYRICS TO THIS BOB MARLEY SONG COME TO MIND..."GET UP...STAND UP...DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT"

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Dec 6th, 2013, 12:45pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-06/japan-secures-final-passage-secrecy-bill-designed-kafka-inspired-hitler

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Whistleblowers and journalist face up to ten years in jail for exposing anything the Japanese government declares “a special secret.” And what is a “special secret”–that is also secret.

In August this year, Aso Taro, who is also the Finance Minister stated at a seminar, “Germany’s Weimar Constitution was changed into the Nazi Constitution before anyone knew. It was changed before anyone else noticed. Why don’t we learn from that method?”

It’s obvious that the Abe administration which pushed this bill into the Diet without public hearings and even the standard deliberations with Japan’s legal establishment has been an apt pupil of their German predecessors. They even attempted to pass the bill in the middle of the night yesterday while most of Japan was sleeping. The administration hasn’t been able to set a fire to the Diet building to justify a harsher crackdown but the LDP Secretary General was kind enough to say that those noisily protesting the bill were committing “terrorist acts.”

The hawkish Prime Minister Abe has publicly stated his ambition to revise Japan’s constitution to rid it of Article 9, which forbids Japan from waging war. Upper house Diet member, Taro Yamamoto and others have publicly stated they believe the current bill is a stepping-stone to recreate a fascist Japan, as it existed prior to the Second World War.

It might all seems like a bad joke, except for the Orwellian nature of the bill being proposed and a key Cabinet member expressing his admiration for the Nazis.

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For the love of God, people, read the history books.



"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.



"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.



"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.



Perhaps this is why The US recognizes Chinas defense zone in the face of developments like this..Its obvious the Chinese know our trusted ally better than we do..even though tis only shows how Japan grew up to be just like their daddy, even outdid him.. with the passage of this act.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Dec 7th, 2013, 5:40pm



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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 8th, 2013, 06:21am

RADIOACTIVE FUKUSHIMA WATER HEADED FOR THE U.S. WEST COAST

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/12/06-6

AND THE FAUCET IS NOT DRIPPING...IT IS GUSHING cry

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by skizicks on Dec 8th, 2013, 2:23pm

Can someone answer a question?
If I dump a truck load of bright pink food dye into the sea off Japan, why would it not disburse and dissipate after a few days?
If I pour some in the bath tub I soon have a tup of pink water, and it sets still compared to the seas.
What force would hold the radioactive water together?
Or are we talking about the dispersed remains of the contamination here?
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by HAL9000 on Dec 8th, 2013, 3:07pm

Skizicks,

...Or are we talking about the dispersed remains of the contamination here?

I would suspect the above. but I'm not sure. I would also have thought that any particulate matter would have sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

HAL
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 10th, 2013, 04:41am

MY HEAD...MY HEART...MY SPIRIT...GOES OUT TO THOSE INNOCENTS WHOM UNDOUBTEDLY WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THIS PLETHORA OF RADIATION SPEWING (AD INFINITUM). MOREOVER, MY COMMITMENT REMAINS IN REVEALING THOSE WHOM ...CHOOSE...TO PERPETUATE THE FALSEHOODS...ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LEVEL "7" TRAGEDY...
I PITY THOSE WHOM CHOOSE TO DELAY ACTION UNTIL THEY "STARE" WITH DISBELIEF AT THE ABNORMALITIES IN THEIR OWN CHILDREN...THEIR LINEAGE...THEIR FOOD...THEIR PLANET!!!
THIS TRAGEDY IS MUCH SIMILAR TO A BULLET TRAIN TRAVELING FLAT OUT....WHEREIN SOME PASSENGERS ARE SITUATED AT A WINDOW SEAT WHILE THE TRAIN TRAVELS IN A WIDE SLOPING TURN...AND WHILE IN THE WIDE...SWEEPING/SLOPING...TURN...SEVERAL PASSENGERS NOTICE FROM THEIR WINDOW SEAT THAT THE BRIDGE THEY WILL SHORTLY PASS OVER...IS COMPLETELY GONE...THEY PULL THE EMERGENCY CORD...AGAIN...AND...AGAIN...AND...AGAIN...THOSE PASSENGERS WANT OFF THE TRAIN...BUT...ALL TO OFTEN MUCH LIKE TODAY...THE CONDUCTOR COMES IN WITH A MAGNIFICENT...RADIATING...SMILE...REMINISCENT OF THAT SEEN ON PENNSYLVANIA.AVE....AND CONFIDENTLY STATES...TRUST US...EVERYTHING IS FINE...PERIOD grin
AAALLLLL ABOARD cool

http://healthydebates.com/unreported-animal-die-offs-radiation-affecting-united-states/

THE PARAKEETS OF THE WORLD ARE SINGING IN DISCORDANT HARMONY...BUT ARE SINGING AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS...
THE ANGEL OF MORTALITY MUST KNOCK ON THE DOOR BEFORE THEY AWAKEN FROM THEIR COLLECTIVE SLUMBER...THAT DREAM IS MARCHING TOWARDS A NIGHTMARE...TRAGICALLY SO.

SHALOM...ZETAR
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 11th, 2013, 11:32am

PLUME OF DEATH HEADED STRAIGHT FOR THE WEST COAST cry

http://enenews.com/university-researchers-assess-impact-of-fukushima-plume-on-u-s-some-models-show-near-straight-line-to-west-coast-experts-radionuclides-didnt-dilute-as-officials-had-claimed-cause-for-seriou

THE CYCLE OF DENIAL shocked

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 13th, 2013, 06:47am

U.S.S REAGAN SAILORS WHOM DOVE INTO THE PACIFIC RESCUING PEOPLE FROM THE 311 DISASTER...SUFFER FROM CANCER...LEUKEMIA...BLEEDING...ETC....

http://enenews.com/another-20-navy-sailors-uss-ronald-reagan-crew-with-thyroid-cancer-leukemia-brain-tumors-bleeding-blindness-children-becoming-sick-after-responding-to-311-crisis-japan-govt-and-tepc

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 19th, 2013, 8:17pm

BERKLEY CALIFORNIA HAS UNANIMOUSLY PASSED FUKUSHIMA RESOLUTION shocked

http://enenews.com/watch-unanimous-passage-of-fukushima-resolution-by-city-of-berkeley-officials-im-glad-were-taking-a-stand-its-very-serious-i-am-quite-sobered-by-it-an-affirmati

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 20th, 2013, 10:29am

THE CONSENSUS IS IN CONCERNING FUKUSHIMA...THE NEXT..."MAJOR"...EARTHQUAKE..."APOCALYPSE NOW"

http://enenews.com/gundersen-real-apocalyptic-fukushima-be-significant-quake-unit-3-structure-lot-worse-unit-4-audio

KINDA THINK "DUCK-N-COVER" AIN'T GONNA WORK grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Dec 23rd, 2013, 12:33am




US Sailors, Assisting With Fukushima Clean Up, Crippled By Cancer

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Back in December 2012, we wrote that it was only a matter of time before Japan’s criminal lying about the radioactive exposure in the aftermath of the Fukushima catastrophe caught up with it, as well as with countless numbers of people who would soon succumb to radiation induced cancers and other diseases. What we found surprising back then, before the full scale of the Fukushima catastrophe become clear and before even Tepco admitted that the situation is completely out of control, is that those holding Japan accountable were not its own citizens but eight US sailors who have then filed a suit against semi-nationalized energy operator TEPCO – the company which repeatedly ignored internal warnings about the ability of the Fukushima NPP to withstand an earthquake/tsunami - seeking $110 million in damages.

Kyodo reported:

“Eight U.S. sailors have filed a damages suit against Tokyo Electric Power Co., claiming they were exposed to radiation and face health threats as the utility did not provide appropriate information about the Fukushima nuclear disaster while they engaged in rescue operations on board an aircraft carrier, U.S. media reported.

The plaintiffs who filed the suit at the U.S. federal court in San Diego — seeking a total of $110 million, or 9.4 billion yen, in damages — were aboard the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan when it was involved in “Operation Tomodachi,” a disaster relief effort shortly after a big earthquake and tsunami triggered the worst nuclear accident in decades, the reports said.”

What is sad is that while everyone in the alternative media was repeatedly warning about the radiation exposure being misrepresented by both TEPCO and various Japanese ministries, it was the mainstream media that was constantly complicit in disseminating official and unofficial lies that there is nothing to fear.

One year after our report, the lies are not only catching up (and overtaking), but are ruining and dooming innocent lives. As Fox reports, dozens of US soldiers who participated in the Fukushima cleanup effort, are succumbing to numerous radiation-related illnesses, including cancer, and their only error was believing the official media lies.

From Fox:

When the USS Ronald Reagan responded to the tsunami that struck Japan in March 2011, Navy sailors including Quartermaster Maurice Enis gladly pitched in with rescue efforts.

But months later, while still serving aboard the aircraft carrier, he began to notice strange lumps all over his body. Testing revealed he’d been poisoned with radiation, and his illness would get worse. And his fiance and fellow Reagan quartermaster, Jamie Plym, who also spent several months helping near the Fukushima nuclear power plant, also began to develop frightening symptoms, including chronic bronchitis and hemorrhaging.

They and 49 other U.S. Navy members who served aboard the Reagan and sister ship the USS Essex now trace illnesses including thyroid and testicular cancers, leukemia and brain tumors to the time spent aboard the massive ship, whose desalination system pulled in seawater that was used for drinking, cooking and bathing. In a lawsuit filed against Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the plaintiffs claim the power company delayed telling the U.S. Navy the tsunami had caused a nuclear meltdown, sending huge amounts of contaminated water into the sea and, ultimately, into the ship’s water system.

“At our level, we weren’t told anything,” Plym told FoxNews.com. “We were told everything was OK.” Now, Plym, Enis and dozens of others wonder if their service to their country and to Japan has left them doomed.

“I get so angry,” Plym said. “They said as long as the plume was avoided we would be fine. But we knew then that something was going to happen. Common sense tells you that the wind would blow it everywhere. You don’t need to be a nuclear scientist to figure that out.”

Why the anger though: after all everyone lied, starting with those in control, and certainly the media that supports the status quo (one must think of all those advertising dollars) constantly and repeatedly that it is simply preposterous to assume that a benevolent regime which only cares about the wealth effect (of both the US and Japan) would engage in such a vast conspiracy as to hide from the world just how destructive the fallour from Fukushima truly was (even as the fringe blogosphere was warning precisely about this day in, and day out).

But while the lies are easily explainable, what is more surprising is that the soldiers are blaming just Tepco instead of everyone in their chain of command for putting them in the line of gamma radiation fire.

San Francisco Attorney Charles Bonner,who is representing allegedly cancer-stricken sailors, initially filed a federal suit in the Southern District of California more than a year ago on behalf of a dozen sailors. The lawsuit was initially dismissed, when the court ruled that any ruling would hinge on interpreting communication between the Japanese and U.S. governments, which could violate the separation of powers. But Bonner is amending the suit to add new allegations that would fall under the court’s jurisdiction. And the number of plaintives has more than quadrupled as more service members come forward with radiation-related illnesses, he said.

“They went in to help with rescue efforts,” said Bonner, who plans to refile the suit on Jan. 6. “They did not go in prepared to deal with radiation containment.”

The plaintiffs don’t blame the U.S. Navy, which they believe acted in good faith, Bonner said. It was the plant’s operators who sat on the meltdown information during the crucial hours following the March 11, 2011 disaster, he said.

“TEPCO pursued a policy which caused rescuers, including the plaintiffs, to rush into an unsafe area which was too close to the [Fukushima nuclear power plant] that had been damaged,” Bonner charged in an April filing now being updated to add more plaintiffs. “Relying upon the misrepresentation regarding health and safety made by TEPCO, upon information and belief, the U.S. Navy was lulled into a false sense of security.

“The officers and crew of the U.S.S. Reagan (CVN-76) and other vessels believed that it was safe to operate within the waters adjacent to the FNPP, without doing the kinds of research and testing that would have verified the problems known to the defendant TEPCO at the time.”

Nathan Piekutoski, 22, who served aboard the USS Essex, which was in the same deployment as the Reagan, said sailors had no choice but to trust what they were told.

“They did say it was safe at the time,” Piekutoski said. “We had to take their word for it.”

Piekutowski says he suffered from leukemia and, while he is currently in remission, Doctors have told him that he may need a bone marrow transplant.

“Within a few months I started getting all these weird symptoms,” he recalled of the months following the disaster response. “Night sweats. Not sleeping. I started losing a lot of weight.

“It’s one of those things,” he added. “You’re angry that it happens but we had to go. It was our duty. I joined the military to help people in need.”

A spokesperson for the Department of Defense declined to comment on the pending lawsuit, but told FoxNews.com the Pentagon has been monitoring and collecting data on radiation exposure in the region.

Needless to say, the criminals at Tepco have nothing to say:

TEPCO officials did not respond to requests for comment. But a recent admission before members of the Japanese press on Dec. 12 during a meeting at the Tokyo Press Club, former Prime Minister Naoto Jan said the first meltdown occurred five hours after the tsunami, not the next day as reported at the time.

Bonner alleges that the statement means that the Japanese government knew radiation was being leaked and did not inform the U.S. Navy.

“They knew there was an active meltdown and they deliberately hid it from the public as well as the Navy,” Bonner said. “Those sailors went in there totally unaware and they were contaminated as a result.”

Plym says she is prepared to have her symptoms question in court, should the case go to trial. But with so many U.S. sailors coming forward, she believes justice will prevail.

“People will say that out lawsuit is fake and that we are doing this for money, but it’s really about getting the correct information out there,” Plym said.

And now back to a mythical reality in which insolvent governments tell the “truth” about the true, and very deplorable, state of affairs just behind the peeing facade. In the meantime, to all the sailors whose only crime was believing their criminal, corrupt superiors: our condolences.

This article was posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 at 4:00 am



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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by DARKTRUTH on Dec 25th, 2013, 7:04pm

Spoken like a gentleman & a scholar you understand very well the Alien Agenda. You understand very well that the Extraterrestrials are the Scum involved with the Fukushima Disaster.
But thats no all these Vampires from Space have other Agendas that work with the USA Government to take over Planet Earth and basically Kill off 3 Quarters of the global population.
Through Staged War , Maunfactured Famines, Through Fascism, Marxism, Dictatorship, Socialism, Communism etc.

Hitler worked with the Extraterrestrials and that is a 100% Fact.
People can come to this Forum and make a Joke out of it and I do not care about these Sheeple that that do not understand me.

For those who do not understand me. All I can say is Good Luck.
For those who do understand me, be aware of your World, Watch the Food you Eat because some Foods are Spiked with Chemicals to Kill you.

The People that run the World run it for the Extraterrestrials not the people.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 28th, 2013, 09:35am

RADIATION AFFECTS FISH,WORLD OCEANS, AND WEST COAST shocked

http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_12_25/Fukushima-is-worse-than-Chernobyl-radiation-affects-fish-World-Oceans-West-Coast-experts-1125/

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 29th, 2013, 08:56am

EPIDEMIOLOGISTS BACK FROM FUKUSHIMA...THERE WILL BE A "SACRAFICE ZONE" FOR MILLIONS...AND YET...THAT "ZONE" WILL CONTINUE TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY cry

http://enenews.com/epidemiologist-back-from-fukushima-were-talking-about-a-sacrifice-zone-and-millions-of-people-live-in-this-area-exceeds-allowable-radiation-dose-for-nuclear-workers-40-kilometers-from-fukush

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 31st, 2013, 10:40am

FUKUSHIMA...***POLITICAL THEATER***

http://govtslaves.info/global-elite-political-theater/

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 31st, 2013, 11:16am

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS "PAN-DISASTER"...

FUKUSHIMA IS CONSIDERED THE CULPRIT ON THE DEATHS OF THE AMERICAN BIRD OF RESPECT (THE EAGLE)

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2022558797_dyingeaglesxml.html

FUKUSHIMA IS CONSIDERED THE REASON FOR THE MASSIVE STARFISH DISAPPEARANCE ACT/DEATHS

http://www.news1130.com/2013/12/30/starfish-wasting-disease-outbreak-could-be-due-to-radiation/

ALASKA EXPERTS SAY MASSIVE LOSS IN ALASKA KING SALMON...FUKUSHIMAhuh

http://enenews.com/newspaper-is-fukushima-impacting-king-salmon-in-alaska-no-comment-says-noaa-biologist-unprecedented-declines-in-recent-years-startling-record-low-seen-in-major-fishery-on-canadas-west-c

IF ONE DOESN'T THINK THAT "MANKIND" MAY BE ON THAT LIST AT SOME POINT IN TIME...WELL...
THIS MAY BE THE TIDE THAT CAN'T BE TURNED...HAVE WE REACHED THE POINT OF NO RETURN?

TRAGICALLY...SOME MAY NEVER BELIEVE SUCH IS OCCURING MUCH LIKE THOSE THAT REFUSE THAT E.T. DOESN'T EXIT UNLESS IT LANDS IN THEIR BACK/FRONT YARD...

YEP...I'M WILLING TO BET MANY FRONT AND BACK YARDS WILL SOON HAVE A "GLOWING RECEPTION" AS THOSE STILL PANDER TO BUILDING 50 NEW PLANTS...JUST LIKE "EL FUKU" (OR IS IT REALLY JUST ANOTHER CASE OF...FU-KU-U-2)...BUT THE TALKING POINTS ARE..."IT'S REALLY WHOM RUNS THESE PLANTS AS TO WHETHER IT'S SAFE OR NOT"...THAT IS REASSURING...NAIVE IF YA ASK OTHERS cool

I'LL ASK MY PAL...HAL...HE'S READY TO HAVE A "THORIUM" GOOD TIME wink

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I RECALL A SCI-FI MOVIE SOME YEARS AGO WHEREIN A NUCLEAR DISASTER TOOK PLACE...ONE MAN TOLD THE PEOPLE TO NOT EAT THE CONTAMINATED FOOD...THE RESPONSE TO SUCH ADVICE..."BUT WE ARE STARVING"...SO GOBBLE-D-GOBBLEDY...DAYS LATER THEY WERE ASKING...HELP...WE ARE SICK... WHAT CAN BE DONE rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes...SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A "RIGHT TURN"...RATHER THAN THAT LEFT ONE WHICH FILLED THAT UNWISE BELLY cool
LIFE REFLECTING ART...OR...ART REFLECTING LIFE...LET'S REFLECT ON THAT grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 2nd, 2014, 09:16am

GOVERNMENT ORDERS 14 MILLION DOSES OF POTASSIUM IODIDE!!!
I'VE REGRETTED MANY TIMES THAT ALEX JONES'S PASSION FOR HIS ENDEAVER FAILED TO CONTROL HIS SPECIFIC OUTBURSTS WHICH WERE BY-IN-LARGE PLANNED AND BAITED BY CERTAIN HOSTS TO EXPLOIT FOR WHAT EVER "MEDIA-OCRACY" REASONS.
NONETHELESS JONES DOES COME UP WITH SOME VERY INTERESTING DATA!!! wink... wink

http://www.infowars.com/us-government-orders-14-million-doses-of-potassium-iodide/

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IS THIS FOR THE GUBMENT EMPLOYEES EXCLUSIVELY...OR TO POTENTIALLY HELP THE PUBLIC (HOW MUCH GOOD AND HELP IS THERE IF ONE MUST THUMP DOWN DOSES OF POTASSIUM IODIDE?)...{YA THINK THEY "KNOW SOMETHING AND"AINT TELLIN}...LET'S WEIGH WHOM SEEMS MORE IMPORTANT WITH THIS PRESENT KREW WHOM INFINITELY HAS THE "PUBLIC GOOD IN CONSIDERATION"...RIGHT HAND... THE PUBLIC...HMMM...FEELS A LITTLE LIGHT HANDED...HMMM..."LEFT" HAND...GEEZ...FEELS QUITE HEAVY...LOOKING RIGHT AND LEFT AT WHICH HAND MAY INDICATE SUCH INTENT..."YOU DECIDE" cool
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by hyundisonata on Jan 2nd, 2014, 12:13pm

Maybe they are not telling the public the full facts about Fukushima and your thyroid is about to get a whooping, wonder who is in the lottery for a life saving dose. They have been monitoring anyone born after 1980 for side effects from Chernobyl here in the UK so who knows what the future holds for those not in the lottery list.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 6th, 2014, 08:56am

HYUNDI,

YEAH...I THINK ALL ARE REGISTERED PLAYAS ON THIS "LOTTO"...&...ALL WILL GET...EVENTUALLY A PIECE OF THE PRIZE cry
TRAGIC AS IT MAY BE...COLLECTIVELY... THE EXPERTS WERE I'M SURE LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS...FROZEN IN DISBELIEF...YEAH CNN HAD IT RIGHT...PARTIALLY...NO MISNOMER ABOUT "PANDORA"...TO THEIR NAIVITE' & CHAGRIN!!!

THE L.A. TIMES HAS SOUNDED THE ALARM shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/l-a-times-alarm-as-west-coast-sardine-crash-likely-radiating-throughout-ecosystem-experts-warn-marine-mammals-and-seabirds-are-starving-may-suffer-for-years-to-come

THE LEVEL "7" EVENT IS SLOWLY TICKING AWAY...OH...BUT HAVEN'T YA HEARD THE WORD FROM UP TOP..."WE ARE IN CONTROL...EVERYTHING WILL BE O.K...YOU CAN KEEP THE CALIFORNIA YOU ONCE HAD...PERIOD"...BUT THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 7th, 2014, 11:41am

HEY MAN...YA THINK THAT RADIATION HAS BEEN EATING AWAY AT ME...NO...JUST KEEP ON DANCIN...DANCIN...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 8th, 2014, 09:25am

SIAMESE GRAY WHALES FOUND IN BAJA {FOR THE FIRST TIME}...OR...MUTATED DOUBLE HEADED SPECIES.
MUTATIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF EVOLUTION...THAT IS IF ONE ACCEPTS SUCH AND HAS LOOKED AT THE SCIENCE. MOREOVER, THREE YEARS INTO THIS UBIQUITOUS LEAKAGE...YA THINK SUCH TIME IS ADEQUATE TO EFFECT/AFFECT GENETIC CODE?
HAVING SAID THE ABOVE AND FURTHER IN LIEU OF OTHER INDICATORS WHICH SEEM TO POINT TO RADIOACTIVE ENCROACHMENT TO GENETIC STRANDS...OR...FURTHER>>> DEATH <<< OF SEVERAL SPECIES...ONE WOULD BE SHALLOW IN ANY ASSESSMENT NOT TO CONSIDER...>>>THE FUKUSHIMA FACTOR<<<IMHO cry cry

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535206/Conjoined-whale-calves-dead-Mexican-lagoon-worlds-documented-case-Siamese-gray-whales.html

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 9th, 2014, 09:29am

PACIFIC ECOSYSTEM HAS COLLAPSED SINCE FUKUSHIMA shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/radiation-expert-terrifying-pacific-ecosystem-collapsed-fukushima-plutonium-uranium-hot-particles-suspected-spreading-throuhout-food-chain-video

YACHTSMAN NAVIGATES THROUGH THE PACIFIC "DEAD ZONE"

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/

THIS IS UNDOUBTEDLY SAD THAT WE HAVE BECOME LIKE A "LEAF IN THE WIND"

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 9th, 2014, 11:19am

Tracking the complete revolution of surface westerlies over Northern Hemisphere using radionuclides emitted from Fukushima

Quote from article :

4. Conclusions

The unique global coverage of fallout radioceasium released from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, particularly a fresh injection of 134 Cs and 137 Cs to the ground air provided a rare opportunity to observe a complete, uninterrupted revolution of the mid-latitude Surface West-
erlies of the northern Hemisphere in late March 2011. This revolution took less than 21 days. This occurrence was verified for the first time based on the simultaneous global surface air measurements of artificial radionuclides, e.g.,131I 134Cs, and 137 Cs, and using the HYSPLIT model.

This work clearly demonstrates how little dissipation occurred during this time due to the nature of the rapid
global air circulation system,and the Fukushima radioactive plume contaminated the entire Northern Hemisphere during a relatively short period of time. The westerlies have strengthened and shifted pole ward over the past 50 years
probably due to atmospheric warming arising from the increasing concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide (
Anderson et al., 2009;Toggweiler, 2009),therefore a close look at the depositional fluxes of
Fukushima released radionuclides over the earth surface would help in providing a better understanding of the dynamics of the northern Hemisphere westerlies.

http://clasweb.clas.wayne.edu/Multimedia/Geology/files/Faculty/baskaran/publications2/112-Hernandez-Ceballos%20etal_2012.pdf


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 9th, 2014, 11:50am

CLIFF,

NICE WORK!

YA THINK THERE'S ANY CONNECTION huh

I MEAN...MSM...DEAFENING SILENCE...OUR GOVERNMENT...BY THE PEOPLE...FOR THE PEOPLE...OF THE PEOPLE...SILENCIA...WAITING FOR THE "SILENCE OF THE LAMBS/SHEEPLE"...
MOREOVER...WHEN THOSE AT TEPCO REPAIR IRRADIATED WATER CONTAMINMENT TANKS WITH DUCT TAPE AND WIRE MESH...ONE STARTS TO CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILTIES...

OF COURSE...NOT THAT I'VE EVER BEEN INTO "CONSPIRACY PORN"...BUT THE FACTS...PATTERNS... ARE BEGINNING TO RACK-N-STACK UP!!!

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THOSE LAYERS OF THAT "CONSPIRATORIAL ONION"...HMMM...BEEN MORE THAN A PASSING THOUGHT FOR ME rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by WolfSpirit on Jan 9th, 2014, 8:05pm

Hi Folks -

ZETAR, those guide stones pretty much spell it out in easier to understand terms, doesn't it? It describes the goals as well as the belief system [or reasoning] behind it.

"Babylonian Cuneiform
Egyptian Hieroglyphics
Classical Greek
Sanskrit

Let these be guidstones to an age of reason"


The above points to the belief system, and if one understands those beliefs, then the reasoning for the goals is discovered and becomes easy to understand.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 10th, 2014, 09:59am

WOLFSPIRIT,

WHERE YA BEEN huh

CHECK OUT THE NEW AND IMPROVED STRAWBERRY rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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MAKES YA FEEL ALL WARM INSIDE AND IT'LL..."TICKLE YOUR THYROID" GUCCI...GUCCI...GOOOOOO cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 12th, 2014, 09:33am

"ABC" IN FUKUSHIMA...RADIATION TO HIT WEST COAST EARLY THIS YEAR shocked

http://enenews.com/abc-at-fukushima-radiation-to-be-at-u-s-coast-early-this-year-expert-concerned-about-effects-on-food-chain-from-unprecedented-amount-of-migrating-radioactivity-they-tried-to-stop-leaks-its

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jan 12th, 2014, 12:51pm

If this does come to pass, and I don't think it will, there would be a certain irony in it, wouldn't there ?

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 12th, 2014, 2:00pm

INT21,

GOTTA LOVE THE REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY FOR A REPLY...BUT HERE YA GO!

WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE SAME STAND-OFF WITH EXPERTS AS WE HAVE WITH GLOBAL WARMING.
THOSE DEFENDING THE POTENTIAL "PROFIT" {PSUEDO-REALITY} AND OTHERS STATING THE MYTH.
HOWEVER THREE HUNDRED TONS OF RADIOACTIVE WATER BEING PURGED INTO THE PACIFIC OCEAN FOR THREE YEARS CAN'T BE GOOD FOR ANY ECOSYSTEM...AND SAME ECOSYSTEM IS RESPONDING FROM SUCH.

REALLY...ONE MUST THINK...IF SUCH WASN'T AS BAD AS MANY HAVE TRIED TO CONVEY...WHY WOULD TEPCO ET. AL. CLAMP DOWN ON FURTHER REPORTING ON SAID INCIDENT AND SUBSEQUENT HARM/DAMAGE...TEMPERED WITH CONSEQUENCES FOR SUCH DISCLOSURE...

WHEN I USED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO TOP NASA PEOPLE...MANY YEARS AGO...THERE WAS A THEME WHICH DID CIRCULATE THAT MANKIND HAS ENDEAVORED WITH AN ATOMIC EXISTENCE BEFORE...AND AS...JUST LIKE A MUSCLE MAN FLEXING HIS MUSCLES GOT UPSIDE DOWN WITH SAME WHICH LED TO THEIR DEMISE...AGAIN I'M SURE...TO THEIR UNEXPECTED DENIALISTIC CHAGRIN...BUT THERE IS EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT SAME...

FOR THE ONES WHOM THINK THIS DISASTER IS A WALK IN THE PARK...JUST ANOTHER EXXON VALDEZ OIL SPILL...WHICH IS STILL BEING CLEANED UP AS I TYPE BY THE WAY...SUCH CONFIDENT INDIVIDUALS SHOULD NOT BE INCUMBERED TO GO DRINK WATER FROM THEIR AQUAFOR ...GOBBLE DOWN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF SUSHI...AND GO SWIM WITH THE REMAINING SEA LIFE DOING BACK FLIPS OFF THE COAST OF "FUKUSHIMA"...THEN DO THEIR WARM-N-GLOWING "ANTHONY BORDAIN" VERSION OF WHUZZZ UP IN NIPON...

WELL AT LEAST THE "RUSKIES" HAVE "GIEGER-ED" A FEW SHIPMENTS OF NIPON AUTOS AND RETURNED TO SENDER.
TRAGICALLY... JUST THIS ONE COUNTRY HAS HAD THE "HAMMER AND CYCAL" TO SAY...HOLD ON THERE...WHAT CHA TRYING TO DUMP IN MY COUNTRY grin

WELL...WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF "NEW" NORMS THRUST ON US...JUST THOSE FOLKS THAT THINK BACKGROUND RADIATION IS NATURALLY SPIKING 10-20-30...100 TIMES...IMHO...RESPECTFULLY...ARE NAIVE...WELL...IDIOTScool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Erno86 on Jan 12th, 2014, 2:20pm

I'm into fusion power myself. Once you've seen an otherworlder starship flaunt fusion plasma technology like myself...you'll consider that every other decaying power technology is obsolete; including nuclear fission power generation.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jan 13th, 2014, 2:25pm

Erno86,

...Once you've seen an otherworlder starship flaunt fusion plasma technology like myself...

So you keep implying.

Now, reverting to my role as Crass HAL (aka HAL the Horrible), I ask you to bring on your proof.

Or should we just accept your word ?

I know, I know, questioning a member is so infra dig'.

INT21
(HAL)
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jan 13th, 2014, 2:33pm

ZETAR,

HOW DOES THE JAPANESE CAR INDUSTRY FIT WITH A PROBLEM AT SEA ?

IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF THE RADIATION THREAT TO THE US WAS AS BAD AS STATED HERE, THEN ALL THE COASTLINES OF COUNTRIES SOUTH OF FUKUSHIMA WILL BE ALREADY EFFECTED. ALONG WITH ALL THE FISH AND ALL THE OTHER SEA CRITTERS. AND ALL THE BOATS AND THINGS THAT SAIL IN THE WATER IN THIS REGION. AS THEY ARE MUCH CLOSER THAN THE US WEST COAST THEN THEY SHOULD BE MUCH MORE BADLY EFFECTED BY NOW.

HAL
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P.S. DO NOT EAT THE SUSHI wink
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 13th, 2014, 5:27pm

WELL...I GUESS MY POINT IS...THE EPICENTER OF THIS DISASTER IS "FUKU" AND SPREAD TO THE DEGREE THAT THEIR EXPORTS (ATTEMPTING TO BE IMPORTED TO THE RUSKIES) WERE GLOWING WITH "RADS".
MANY SPECULATE THAT THE VAST AMOUNT OF RECYCLED MATERIAL (NIPON) WHICH MAY IN-AND-OF ITSELF WORK IT'S WAY INTO MAINSTREAM PRODUCTION ONCE RECYCLED...USED FOR WHAT EVER...

THE LAST FIGURE I READ WAS/IS...300 TONS OF RADIOACTIVE WATER/DAY IS POURING INTO THE PACIFIC...DISCOUNTING CONTAINMENT VESSELS WHICH WILL FURTHER BE DUMPED...INTO THE PACIFIC.

LET'S LOOK AT ANOTHER WAY...ROOT MEAN AVERAGE...30 DAYS PER WEEK...12 MONTHS ARE OUR GIVEN...
12 MONTHS X 30 DAYS=360 DAYS
360 DAYS PER YEAR *X* 300 TONS OF RADIOACTIVE H2O=108,000 TONS OF CONTAMINATED WATER RELEASED PER YEAR...
108,000 TONS OF RADIOACTIVE WATER PER YEAR *X* THREE YEARS=324,000 TONS OF RADIOACTIVE H2O
AND THE KICKER...IT'S STILL GUSHING AND WILL BE DOING SAME FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME...

YEAH...NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes...SAY THE "SOOTH SAYERS" AND THOSE WITH MASSIVE VESTED INTERESTS wink

WELL IF YOU ARE WOODS HOLE INSTITUTE... THEY SAY IT'S (THE PACIFIC) AN EXCELLENT PETRI DISH FOR RESEARCH FOR SCIENTIST FOR YEARS TO COME...THE CATO INSTITUTE APPROACH...AGAIN...FOR YEARS TO COME...NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Equalizer on Jan 13th, 2014, 6:41pm

Think moles per liter..its the concentration of one...with some even more concentrated in others in the continual dumping in currents that do not disperse uniformally mean some are gong to get it moreso than others..
By weight alone..compare the weight of one hot particle l in a human body..insignicant by weight and volume..what it does to a cells structure along the way..is quite another story.

http://enenews.com/russian-experts-fukushima-pollution-spreads-all-over-earth-clearly-a-large-amount-of-fish-seaweeds-and-everything-in-ocean-has-been-polluted-these-products-are-the-main-danger-for-mankind-as-th
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 13th, 2014, 7:30pm

LEFTY,

WHEW...MAN...THOSE EXPERTS REALLY HAD ME GOING grin
WELL THEN...NOTHING MUCH TO WORRY ABOUT...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 14th, 2014, 3:42pm

on Jan 13th, 2014, 7:30pm, ZETAR wrote:
LEFTY,

WHEW...MAN...THOSE EXPERTS REALLY HAD ME GOING grin
WELL THEN...NOTHING MUCH TO WORRY ABOUT...

SHALOM...Z


Yep, nothing much to worry about,,,,

Here is "The Plan" (it may have been revised since it's publication). I've read over 50 pages of it,,,,still studying it.

I have to ask some questions about this. Can it be done with technologies not yet in existence or tested ? How about time ? It seems it's going to take quite awhile to get this sorted out.

http://www.meti.go.jp/english/press/2013/pdf/0627_01.pdf

Mid and Long Term Roadmap towards the Decommissioning of TEPCO’s Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Units 1
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 14th, 2014, 3:56pm

CLIFF,

I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD CATCH THAT wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Erno86 on Jan 14th, 2014, 4:31pm

on Jan 13th, 2014, 2:25pm, INT21 wrote:
Erno86,

...Once you've seen an otherworlder starship flaunt fusion plasma technology like myself...

So you keep implying.

Now, reverting to my role as Crass HAL (aka HAL the Horrible), I ask you to bring on your proof.

Or should we just accept your word ?

I know, I know, questioning a member is so infra dig'.

INT21
(HAL)


You ask for proof? Well...at the present time, I can't give you what you're seeking for at this moment. You'll just have to reminisce or forget about, what some guy named Erno told you about some "fantastical propulsion" theory, that might be hard for you to believe at this moment. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 22nd, 2014, 04:30am

This may be an older issue, but it was the world's first meltdown that many do not know about.
It happened in Semi Hills in Simi Valley, California.

Consider the half life of elements.

Santa Susana Field Laboratories-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Susana_Field_Laboratory

- I highly recommend for those interested to read about this especially,,,-

-Accidents and site contamination
-Sodium burn pits
-Wildfires and contamination

Quote from wiki article-
Quote:
In October 2006, the Santa Susana Field Laboratory Advisory Panel, made up of independent scientists and researchers from around the United States,
concluded that contamination at the facility resulted in between 0 and 1,800 cancer deaths (the average estimate was 300 deaths). The report also concluded that
the SRE meltdown caused the release of more than 458 times the amount of radiation released by the Three Mile Island accident






Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 23rd, 2014, 12:24am



Fukushima - Nuclear physicist Michio Kaku
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 30th, 2014, 10:31am

NICE WORK CLIFF!!!...MICHIO KAKU INDEED KNOWS cool

CONDITIONS OF ALASKA SEAL AND WALRUS SHOCK SCIENTIST!!!

http://enenews.com/hunter-concern-seals-walrus-pacific-conditions-never-before-scientists-lesions-reproductive-system-thyroid-systs-retained-placenta

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 5th, 2014, 11:51am

PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT "EATING" RADIOACTIVE WASTE tongue tongue tongue

http://enenews.com/bloomberg-fukushima-radiation-will-be-washing-up-on-west-coast-soon-includes-cesium-one-of-the-most-dangerous-radionuclides-released-fox-news-so-many-people-are-concerned-about-eating-fukus

ONE MUST REMEMBER THE POSITIVE STROKES/REASSURANCES POST 9~1~1 TO THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS..."NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT"~"THE AIR IS FINE~WE TESTED IT"...WELL IF YOUR NOT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE >>>MUCK<<< I GUESS SO...BUT WAVE AFTER WAVE WILL HIT {CALI} AND THE WEST COAST>>>AD INFINITUM<<< IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE GUBMINT TO EDUCATE YOU ON THE EFFECTS AND SPREAD OF RADIATION...JUST ASK YOURSELF WHY ONLY 14,000,000 MILLION DOSES OF POTASSIUM IODIDE WERE ON THEIR SANTA'S...I MEAN...UNCLE SAMMY'S LIST... rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT~THIS WAVE~ AND THE COUNTLESS ONES FOLLOWING~YOUR MSM WILL INFORM YOU IF "WE" DEEM NECESSARY~TRUST USgrin

FUKUSHIMA DEBRIS...CATCH THE WAVE grin grin grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 5th, 2014, 1:51pm

Anyone want to buy a Geiger counter ? Unused since Chernobyl. Provide your own batteries.

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 5th, 2014, 2:23pm

On a more serious note, anyone living on the west coast who is worried could get a Geiger counter and take regular sea water samples for testing. Do it properly and record the findings on a spread sheet.

But whatever you do, DO NOT start shouting from the roof tops that you are doing this. I hear they still tar, feather and run out of town folks who cause public scares.

HAL
INT21 smiley

P.s. Keep you car gassed up. You may need it in a hurry.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 9th, 2014, 11:47am

GROSS AND WANTON DISREGARD FOR FUKUSHIMA RADIATION!!!

http://enenews.com/leaders-on-west-coast-govt-response-to-fukushima-highly-irresponsible-very-negligent-contamination-of-seafood-is-going-to-happen-in-the-long-term-we-dont-want-to-get-cancer

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 9th, 2014, 6:40pm

on Feb 5th, 2014, 2:23pm, INT21 wrote:
On a more serious note, anyone living on the west coast who is worried could get a Geiger counter and take regular sea water samples for testing. Do it properly and record the findings on a spread sheet.


Here is a site that monitors airborne radiation particles.

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 10th, 2014, 12:10am

CLIFF,

THANX~THAT'S KICKIN~N~CLICKIN cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 10th, 2014, 02:23am

on Feb 10th, 2014, 12:10am, ZETAR wrote:
CLIFF,

THANX~THAT'S KICKIN~N~CLICKIN cool

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You're welcome Z. Glad you started this thread.

Here is another. Something that caught my attention especially - "Groundwater leaks reported". Place a "check" next to it then click "refresh map".

http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/reactor-map/embedded-flash-map.html

Anyone care for a dose of tritium in their tea ?

Tritium leak discovered at Perry nuclear power plant

http://www.power-eng.com/articles/2014/01/tritium-leak-discovered-at-perry-nuclear-power-plant.html

undecided

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 10th, 2014, 06:39am

Cliff,

Nice find . Thanks.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 10th, 2014, 06:56am

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen, which allows it to readily bind to hydroxyl radicals, forming tritiated water (HTO), and to carbon atoms. Since tritium is a low energy beta emitter, it is not dangerous externally (its beta particles are unable to penetrate the skin), but it is a radiation hazard when inhaled, ingested via food or water, or absorbed through the skin.[16][17][18][19] HTO has a short biological half-life in the human body of 7 to 14 days, which both reduces the total effects of single-incident ingestion and precludes long-term bioaccumulation of HTO from the environment.[18][20] Biological half life of tritiated water in human body, which is a measure of body water turn over, varies with season. Studies on biological half life of occupational radiation workers for free water tritium in the coastal region of Karnataka, India show that the biological half life in winter season is twice that of the summer season.




According to the U.S. EPA, "a recently documented source of tritium in the environment is" self-illuminating "exit signs that have been illegally disposed of in municipal landfills. Water, which seeps through the landfill, is contaminated with tritium from broken signs and can pass into water ways, carrying the tritium with it."[22]

Tritium has leaked from 48 of 65 nuclear sites in the US. In one case it was detected in groundwater at levels exceeding the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) drinking water standards by up to 375 times.[23]

The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission states that in normal operation in 2003, 56 pressurized water reactors released 40,600 curies (1.50 PBq) of tritium (maximum: 2,080; minimum: 0.1; average: 725) and 24 boiling water reactors released 665 curies (24.6 TBq) (maximum: 174; minimum: 0; average: 27.7), in liquid effluents.[24]..

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 10th, 2014, 08:47am

HAL~INT21,

TOP OF THE DAY TO YA MATE grin

NOW ON TO THE STRONTIUM & CESIUM wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 10th, 2014, 09:10am

FUKUSHIMA UNDERGROUND DAM NOT WORKING lipsrsealed

http://enenews.com/tv-fukushima-underground-dam-working-radiation-levels-exceeding-govt-limit-shore-tepco-official-flow-contaminated-water-ocean-causing-problems-quite-difficult-stop-video

AND THIS NEVER HAPPENED EITHER rolleyes rolleyes

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 12th, 2014, 10:15am

THE "HORROR" OF FUKU~SHAME ON YOU! lipsrsealed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_CiEnJ4Wo&feature=player_detailpage#t=165

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ORDERS FROM MOUNT FUJI~KEEP THIS UNDER WRAPS~THE ONLY LEAKS SHOULD BE THOSE INTO THE ATMOSHERE AND PACIFIC rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 13th, 2014, 05:08am

Japan's nuclear regulator raps Fukushima operator over radiation readings

Continue Reading Here :
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/12/us-japan-nuclear-fukushima-radiation-idUSBREA1B0LH20140212?feedType=RSS

Quote:
Incorrect measurements for radiation levels in contaminated groundwater at the site.





Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 13th, 2014, 11:26am

CLIFF~ YA KNOW THAT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE rolleyes
NICE POST MY FRIEND!

WELL...KENTUCKY DERBY~BELMONT STAKES~ WE HIT THE "TRI~FUKU~TA"...THREE G.E. DESIGNS BITTING THE TSUNAMI BULLET...

>>>BLAST RUINS CONTAINMENT VESSEL<<<

http://enenews.com/strange-reporters-reveal-blast-ruined-inside-of-containment-vessel-at-fukushima-unit-4-walls-within-it-destroyed-explosion-is-believed-to-have-taken-place-outside-reactor-photo

AHHH SOOO...HONORABLE MASTER TEPCO NOT TELL ME OF SUCH PROBLEMS~WELL...YOU'RE ON A "NEED TO GLOW" BASIS wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 15th, 2014, 06:17am

on Feb 13th, 2014, 11:26am, ZETAR wrote:
CLIFF~ YA KNOW THAT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE rolleyes
NICE POST MY FRIEND!


AHHH SOOO...HONORABLE MASTER TEPCO NOT TELL ME OF SUCH PROBLEMS~WELL...YOU'RE ON A "NEED TO GLOW" BASIS wink
SHALOM...Z


Yes..... so honest. undecided It only took 5 months for them to report it to the regulator. rolleyes

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/World/2014/02/13/Tepco-took-months-to-release-record-strontium-readings-at-Fukushima/

@ Hal - You're welcome. wink Nice find about the tritium !

Zetar - Several years ago, after working at two different coal power plants ,,,cough/hack,,, I was asked to work for a nuclear power plant for (Journeyman) construction safety purposes wearing white suits and going through sprayed decontamination zones and all that great stuff......

The thought of returning home to my family glowing in the dark ..... I respectfully declined the offer. undecided



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 17th, 2014, 1:28pm

CLIFF,

YOU MADE A SOUND DECISION!

I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE COUSTEAU FAMILY (ESPECIALLY WHEN DIVING AND STUDYING MARINE BIOLOGY)... STARTING WITH THE PATRIARCH~YOU COULD BANK ON THEIR RESEARCH WITH REFERNCE TO THE OCEANS.

JEAN~MICHEL COUSTEAU SAYS "WE ARE USING OUR OCEANS AS A GARBAGE CAN~UNIVERSAL SEWER" AND FURTHER HAS WARNINGS FOR FUKUSHIMA RADIATION HEADED FOR THE WEST COAST shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/cousteau-warns-california-about-fukushima-plume-it-could-be-dangerous-keeping-eye-on-reports-im-not-touching-bluefin-tuna-im-done-due-to-pollution-leaders-worried-about-radiation-levels

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 19th, 2014, 11:59am

ANONYMOUS (HE/SHE WANTS TO STAY UNDER RADAR) GOVERNMENT EXPERT SAYS "FUKUSHIMA RADIATION ASTRONOMICAL" shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/anonymous-u-s-govt-nuclear-expert-fukushima-radiation-levels-were-astronomical-nothing-containing-release-of-radioactivity-its-an-unmitigated-unshielded-number-containment-monitor-de

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 20th, 2014, 10:23am

THE DEAFENING SILENCE OF THE "PTB" ON FUKUSHIMA...WONDER WHY...HERE IS ONE PERSONS OPINION cool

http://humansarefree.com/2014/02/why-obama-will-never-admit-fukushima.html#sthash.pNdVEVvE.dpuf

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 20th, 2014, 1:41pm

New highly radioactive leak at Japan's Fukushima plant
By Mari Saito

TOKYO (Reuters) - The operator of Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant said on Thursday that 100 metric tons of highly contaminated water had leaked out of a tank, the worst incident since last August, when a series of radioactive water leaks sparked international alarm.

Tokyo Electric Power Co told reporters the latest leak was unlikely to have reached the ocean. But news of the leak at the site, devastated by a 2011 earthquake and tsunami, further undercut public trust in a utility rocked by a string of mishaps and disclosure issues.

"We are taking various measures, but we apologize for worrying the public with such a leak," said Masayuki Ono, a spokesman for the utility, also known as Tepco.

"Water is unlikely to have reached the ocean as there is no drainage in that tank area."

Tepco said water overflowed from a large storage tank at the site late on Wednesday after a valve had remained open by mistake and sent too much contaminated water into a separate holding area.

A worker patrolling the area, around 700 meters from the ocean, spotted drips of water leaking through a drain attached to the side of the tank.

The utility has been harshly criticized for its response to the three nuclear meltdowns following the quake and tsunami at the plant, 220 km (130 miles) north of Tokyo.

A nuclear regulatory official last week said Tepco delayed release of record-high measurements of strontium-90 in groundwater despite repeated requests by the regulator.

Initial measurements of the latest incident showed the leaked water had a reading of 230 million becquerels per liter of beta-emitting radioactive isotopes, including strontium 90.

That level is almost equal to that recorded in last year's leak of 300 metric tons of contaminated water, deemed a "serious incident", or level three, on the seven-point international scale for radiological releases.

The legal limit for releasing strontium 90 into the ocean is 30 becquerels per liter.

http://news.yahoo.com/highly-radioactive-leak-japan-39-fukushima-plant-045324842--finance.html

From RSOE EDIS Update - (Emergency and Disaster Information Service )

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20130729-40264-JPN&uid=14706

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 21st, 2014, 7:30pm

LAWDY MISS CLAWDY...SURE BEEN PLUMMIN TO ME...
THE GOV'T HAS DETERMINED THAT THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT A "RADIOACTIVE PLUME" IS HEADED TO THE WEST COAST...>>>CANADA<<< ON THE OTHER HAND HAS OTHER/FURTHER VIEWS ON SAME..."NUTTIN" LIKE THE GOV'T LOOKING OUT FOR IT'S PEOPLE AND REASSURRING IT'S CONSTITUENTS...REMEMBER THE AIR QUALITY ISSUE POST TWIN TOWERS...

http://enenews.com/canadian-govt-theres-going-to-be-radiation-from-fukushima-for-years-to-come-the-testing-will-never-stop-u-s-govt-theres-no-reason-to-believe-a-radioactive-plume-is-coming-to

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 22nd, 2014, 09:44am

LIKE A SCREEN DOOR ON A SUBMARINE...THE CATASTROPHY OF CONTAINMENT...NEW LEAKS...AND WILL PROVIDE SUCH LEAKING RADIOACTIVE SLUSH FOR 100'S OF YEARS...OF COURSE RESULTING IN NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WHAT~SO~EVER...SUSHI ANYONE...MY PALATE SEEMS TO BE WANING...YOU CAN HAVE MINE~I'LL PROVIDE THE CHOP STICKS grin

http://enenews.com/nhk-failure-at-fukushima-gundersen-extraordinarily-radioactive-leak-will-be-in-pacific-shortly-site-is-going-to-bleed-into-ocean-for-100-years

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 24th, 2014, 10:47am

DELIBERATE COVER~UP OF EXPOSURE TO FUKUSHIMA RADIATION~INITIALLY AND CONTINUES lipsrsealed

http://enenews.com/tokyo-press-conference-deliberate-cover-up-of-publics-radiation-exposure-and-health-problems-they-have-after-fukushima-this-is-now-japans-biggest-problem-continual-purposeful-conceal

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 25th, 2014, 10:11am

FUKUSHIMA RADIATION CAUSING SICKNESS AND DEATH IN OCEAN MAMMALS...

http://enenews.com/us-govt-scientists-investigating-if-fukushima-radiation-contributed-to-unusual-deaths-and-sickness-in-marine-mammals-similar-illness-seen-in-japan-and-other-countries-on-pacific-expect-to-see

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 25th, 2014, 11:36am

FREYASDAY,

HEY MAN THANX~ WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS WHOM MAKE THIS SITE~THE UFO-OFF TOPIC WATERING HOLE DU JOUR~AS SYS SAYS~WE DRUDGE IT OUT FOR YA grin

NOW JEFF RENSE AND COMPANY~HE HAS A NUMBER OF WRITERS/CONTRIBUTORS WHOM I FOLLOW AND SOME IN FACT I CONSIDER FRIENDS (I LIKE JEFF~ AND MAY PARSE WORDS ON ASPECTS OF HIS AGENDA BUT WHAT ELSE IS NEW)...HAVING SAID THAT...I AVOID RACE BAITING AS I HAVE ISRAELI~ARABIC...WELL MULTI~NATIONAL FRIENDS AND AM SENSITIVE TO SUCH DOGMA...

YEAH SOUNDS LIKE YOUR BUD HAS A TOUCH OF THE "RADS"...BUT I'M NO DOCTOR NOR SEEN ANY TREATING OPINIONS OR BLOOD/TISSUE WORK...SO SPECULATION IS ALL THAT'S OFFERED...

WHEN PLANKTON~KELP~ALL ARE SATURATED WITH WHAT EVER RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE...IT IS SHORT ORDER BEFORE SAME MARCHES UP THE FOOD CHAIN...JUZZ THE WAY IT IS...THE SAD THING IS THAT THE INFORMED PEOPLE WILL CONSIDER THIS TAKE PRECAUTIONS WHILE OTHERS JUST GOBBLE~GOBBLE~GOBBLE grin

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IF HEAR THE VOGUE THING NOWADAYS IS GEIGER COUNTERS WITH EVERY MEAL...JUZZZ CHECKIN FOR THAT SUPER SOY SAUCE grin grin grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 26th, 2014, 08:48am

FUKUSHIMA SAFETY~REALLY?~WHAT A FARCE! NUTTIN LIKE BEING DOWN STREAM FROM GROSS AND WANTON NEGLIGENCE....

http://enenews.com/govt-very-serious-problem-at-fukushima-safety-system-has-failed-expert-12-trillion-bq-of-strontium-90-leaked-could-be-over-18-of-total-released-since-311-cnn-its-being-absor

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Post by ZETAR on Feb 26th, 2014, 09:02am

FUKUSHIMA EXPOSURE~HORRIBLY WORSE THAN PROPAGANDIZED...

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=12414

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 5th, 2014, 3:36pm

WHO'S ON FIRST~WHAT'S ON SECOND~AND I DON'T KNOW IS ON THIRD...NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING AROUND TO HOME PLATE...DID YA HEAR ABOUT>>>THE GIANT LIE ABOUT FUKUSHIMA<<<... lipsrsealed

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/03/the-giant-lie-about-fukushima/

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by LoneGunMan on Mar 5th, 2014, 4:48pm

ZETAR
Not to derail the thread but one of the towns closest to one of our Nuclear sights went around door to door during the weekend. They handed out kits of Iodine and face masks and other content to the whole town but refused to tell anyone why they were doing it! When asked why they said just to hang on to it and make it handy till you get further instructions!

Were on the East coast so it's not Fukushima but a possible leak at the plant. One that is supposedly closed and the rods and other nuclear waste disposed of at least 4 years ago!

No one is getting the truth about what is going on here either!

Lone
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 5th, 2014, 5:27pm

LONE,

I NEVER CEASE TO BE AMAZED AT THE EXTENT THOSE VESTED IN THIS ENDEAVOR WILL GO TO...WERE THOSE GOVERNMENT PACKS OF POTASSIUM IODIDE...CURIOUS AS TO THE PACKAGING AND HOW SUCH WAS DISTRIBUTED...AND "NO"...A WORTHY TANGENT FOR THIS THREAD...VERY GLAD YOU SHARED!!!...

ONE MUST BE SHREWD TO PARSE THROUGH THE LAYERS OF DISTRACTION...MERELY TO FOCUS ON THOSE NUGGETS OF KNOWLEDGE...HAVING SAID THAT...THOSE WHOM DO...YOU ROCK!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 5th, 2014, 5:49pm

on Mar 5th, 2014, 4:48pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
ZETAR
Not to derail the thread but one of the towns closest to one of our Nuclear sights went around door to door during the weekend. They handed out kits of Iodine and face masks and other content to the whole town but refused to tell anyone why they were doing it! When asked why they said just to hang on to it and make it handy till you get further instructions!

Were on the East coast so it's not Fukushima but a possible leak at the plant. One that is supposedly closed and the rods and other nuclear waste disposed of at least 4 years ago!

No one is getting the truth about what is going on here either!

Lone


If it were me, I'd be gathering the community together and asking questions.

Cliff

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 5th, 2014, 5:58pm


RSOE EDIS-Emergency Response Information Service

The Nine Mile Point 2 nuclear power plant shut down early today following the an on-site electrical power failure, plant operator Constellation Energy Nuclear Group said. The cause of the power failure is still under review. The loss of the power supply impacted the flow of cooling to both of the plant's reactor recirculation pumps, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission reported. In response, the plant's operators manually scrammed the reactor at 1:43 a.m., which entails inserting all of the control rods to halt the fissioning process. The two NRC resident inspectors assigned to Nine Mile Point will review the event, including troubleshooting on the loss of the power supply and any repairs. The plant is currently in "hot" shutdown, which means the reactor and reactor coolant system remain heated and pressurized, NRC officials said. Constellation officials said the reactor lost power from an apparatus called an "uninterruptible power supply." The reactor shutdown is not expected to impact electrical service to homes and businesses in the region, company officials said. At full power, Nine Mile Point 2 generates 1,360 megawatts, enough for about 1.4 million average households.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20140305-42907-USA


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Post by GhostofEd on Mar 5th, 2014, 6:11pm

on Mar 5th, 2014, 5:58pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Constellation officials said the reactor lost power from an apparatus called an "uninterruptible power supply."

That's a weird one. A UPS should have only been online as a backup to the normal power. It should be isolated from the main. The way this is worded implies the system was on the UPS and it failed. Does not sound right. More info needed.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 8th, 2014, 10:22am

THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING~"HIGH-LEVEL RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATED WATER" CONTINUES TO GUSH INTO THE PACIFIC OCEAN...

http://enenews.com/japan-newspapers-it-appears-high-level-radioactive-contaminated-water-is-flowing-into-ocean-at-fukushima-fear-nuclear-complex-might-not-be-scrapped-govt-official-plant-is-barely-be

SOME FORGET THE TORRENTIAL RAINS WHICH HIT THIS AREA AS WELL...GENTLY WASHING MORE RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE TO IT'S GEOGRAPHICAL EROSION TROUGH...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 10th, 2014, 5:08pm

FUKUSHIMA HANGING ON BY IT'S CORPORATE FINGERNAILS cool

http://enenews.com/fukushima-plant-hanging-by-its-fingernails-about-to-fall-off-japans-nuclear-disaster-a-warning-to-all-of-civilization-govt-tepco-announce-dates-for-completion-but-no-one-really-bel

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 11th, 2014, 10:18am

TEPCO TAPS OUT!!!!!!!!! SENIOR OFFICIAL SAYS "NO ONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO~IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX" WELL HOWDY DOODY TIME~LET'S BUILD ANOTHER HUNDRED OF THESE WATER HEATERS AND INCREASE THE RISK EXPONENTIALLY OF COMPLETE ANNIHILATION shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/anonymous-senior-tepco-staffer-no-one-knows-what-to-do-fukushima-reactors-not-under-control-we-just-cant-deal-with-the-melted-fuel-its-impossible-to-fix-before-my-death-theres

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THE WORLD CHANGED WHEN WE WENT FROM FLAT TO ROUND grin grin grin THE WORLD CHANGED WHEN THREE NUCLEAR PLANTS WENT CRITICAL INTO THE GROUND...ANY BENEVOLENT OBSERVERS THINK WE NEED HELP? rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 12th, 2014, 09:38am

U.S. OFFICIALS SWEPT ANY AND ALL CONCERN OVER THE FUKUSHIMA MELTDOWN UNDER THE BELTWAY RUG shocked

http://enenews.com/nbc-news-officials-in-us-hid-concerns-as-fukushima-melted-cia-told-came-up-with-hydrogen-explosion-theory-nuclear-officials-noted-theres-no-evidence-to-support

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 14th, 2014, 10:26am

Nova Scotia - Oops ! shocked


HAZMAT in Canada on Friday, 14 March, 2014 at 03:55 (03:55 AM) UTC.

Halifax Fire has confirmed there is a radioactive leak at the Fairview Container Terminal in the city's north end. Several emergency crews are on the scene including a HAZMAT team. The leak began when a container being loaded onto the deck of the Atlantic Companion dropped. The incident happened around 10 p.m. Thursday. The fire department went to test for radioactivity at the Ceres terminal. The first team found nothing, but a second test picked up higher than normal levels of radioactivity. The Atlantic Companion is a Swedish-built ship owned by Atlantic Container Line ACL.

RSOE-EDIS - Emergency and Disaster Information Service
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=HZ-20140314-43018-CAN

Situation Update - Does this make sense ?

HAZMAT in Canada on Friday, 14 March, 2014 at 03:55 (03:55 AM) UTC.

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Updated: Friday, 14 March, 2014 at 09:14 UTC

Up to four canisters of radioactive material fell 20ft in a container terminal accident in Halifax, Canada late Thursday, prompting an evacuation but officials said there was no sign of any leak. Fire crews and other first-responders trained to deal with hazardous materials were called to the Ceres shipping terminal shortly before 10 p.m. local time (9 p.m. ET) for a reported radiation incident. A container was being moved from a ship to the dock when up to four cylinders uranium hexafluoride - a material used in the production of fuel for nuclear reactors and weapons - fell about 20ft from inside the container and landed inside the ship. Radioactivity levels were found to be three to four times higher than normal, and the immediate area was evacuated, Halifax Regional Municipality spokesman Brendan Elliott said in a statement.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=HZ-20140314-43018-CAN&uid=14740

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 14th, 2014, 10:32am

CLASS ACTION COULD WIPE OUT GENERAL ELECTRIC...
I SAW THIS LITIGATION COMING...OH AND WHAT ABOUT SECONDARY EXPOSURE...YA THINK AMERICANS HAVE STANDING FOR SUCH NEGLIGENCE AND COMPENSATION...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/03/12/66052.htm

THE ROAD TO EXTINCTION...

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_10/3-years-since-Fukushima-nuclear-power-road-to-our-extinction-expert-3829/

THE DISASTER THAT NEVER ENDS...AND WE (THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE ARE)>>> DOWN WIND/DOWN CURRENT <<< rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/japans-radioactive-nightmare.html

YA READY FOR THIS ROLLER COASTER RIDE...THE RIDE PROVIDED FREE BY TEPCO... THAT NON STOP ADVENTURE!!!...TEMPERED BY THE CRIES/SHOUTS/ECHOS IN THE BELTWAY...WE WANT CLEAN AIR AND WATER...AND ABSOLUTELY MUM ON RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATION...THE PIED PIPERS WILL SAY WHAT EVER TO CLING TO THEIR CORONATION...PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSETS!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 15th, 2014, 10:22am

A POD OF AT LEAST 70 ENDANGERED WHALES SHOWS UP OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA~NOT SEEN IN A DECADE~VOICES CRYING FROM THE DEEP!!! cry

http://enenews.com/extremely-rare-70-endangered-false-killer-whales-california-coast-only-several-decades-normally-open-ocean-amazing-sounds-loud-thought-engine-trouble-
breached-performing-rubbing-heads-boat

P.T.S.D.? ~ SUICIDES INCREASE POST DISASTER ~ ALTHOUGH THIS IS A SOCIETY HONORED TO FALL ON A SWORD ~ WHERE IS THE HONOR IN TEPCO?...DOMO ARIGADO ~ FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE...WHAT WOULD YOU'RE ANCESTRAL SPIRITS BE THINKING ~ THAT LAND OF THE RISING SUN THEY FOUGHT SO HARD FOR...THE LAND OF THE RISING RADIATION cool cool cool...

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_13/Suicides-tied-to-Fukushima-disaster-are-on-rise-6281/

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I DO EVALUATE THE PROPAGANDISTIC FLAIR OF RUSSIAN MEDIA!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 15th, 2014, 7:11pm

RSOE-EDIS - Emergency Disaster and Information Service

Environment Pollution in Canada on Wednesday, 12 March, 2014 at 04:27 (04:27 AM) UTC.

Description
A radioactive metal from the Fukushima nuclear plant disaster in Japan has been discovered in the Fraser Valley, causing researchers to raise the alarm about the long-term impact of radiation on B.C.'s west coast. Examination of a soil sample from Kilby Provincial Park, near Agassiz, has for the first time in this province found Cesium 134, further evidence of Fukushima radioactivity being transported to Canada by air and water. "That was a surprise," said Juan Jose Alava, an adjunct professor in the school of resource and environmental management at Simon Fraser University, in an interview on Tuesday. "It means there are still emissions ... and trans-Pacific air pollution. It's a concern to us. This is an international issue." Cesium 134 has a half-life of two years, meaning its radioactivity is reduced by half during that time. Its presence in the environment is an indication of continuing contamination from Fukushima. A more persistent danger to people and marine life is radioactive Cesium 137, which has a half-life of 30 years, and bioaccumulates in the food chain. Researchers developed a model based on the diet of fish-eating killer whales along with the levels of Cesium 137 detected and predicted (less than 0.5 becquerels per cubic metre, a measurement of radioactivity) by other researchers in the Pacific waters offshore of Vancouver Island.

The models suggests that in 30 years, Cesium 137 levels in the whales will exceed the Canadian guideline of 1,000 becquerels per kilogram for consumption of seafood by humans �" 10 times the Japanese guideline. "It's a reference, the only benchmark we have to compare against," Alava said. He said recent federal government cutbacks have placed a greater burden of testing and monitoring for aquatic impacts on academics, non-governmental organizations and even private citizens. "The Canadian government is the one that should be doing something, should be taking action to keep monitoring to see how these contaminants are behaving, what are the levels, and what is next." It was a citizen, Aki Sano, who provided SFU with the soil sample from Kilby park, near the mouth of the Harrison River, on Nov. 16, 2013. Samples of chinook, sockeye and chum spawning salmon nearby are also being analyzed for evidence of radiation. While the soil sample tested positive for Cesium 134, the exact level is not yet known, although it is thought to be low. The plan now is to test soil samples from Burnaby Mountain, closer to Vancouver. Earlier research by Kris Starosta, associate professor of chemistry, and his colleagues at SFU has shown evidence of Iodine 131, which has a half-life of eight days, in rainwater and seaweeds in B.C. Fisheries and Oceans Canada conducted the analysis of sea water off Vancouver Island. An adult killer whale weighing up to 5,000 kilograms can eat five per cent of its body weight, or 250 kilograms of fish, per day. Endangered resident killer whales already face a host of challenges: the need for high-protein chinook salmon, habitat degradation, underwater noise pollution, harassment from whale watchers, and climate change. While the additional impact of Cesium 137 is unknown, it may negatively affect the immune system or endocrine system, Alava said.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20140312-42993-CAN
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 18th, 2014, 08:31am

Cs ~ 137 is 10,000 TIMES HIGHER IN OCEAN THAN THAN CHERNOBYL...WHODDU THUNK IT rolleyes

http://enenews.com/nytimes-govt-scientist-allowed-publish-findings-fukushima-cesium-137-could-be-10000-times-higher-pacific-surface-waters-after-chernobyl-japan-researchers-pressure-downplay-disasters-impact-profe

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EDIT FOR APATHETICAL CREDIT:

SOMETIMES IT FEELS AS IF WE ARE MERELY REARRANGING THE CHAIRS OF THIS BOAT THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO SINK...NATURE HAS A UNIQUE WAY OF REMINDING US...WHOSE IN CHARGE!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 19th, 2014, 12:39pm

SCIENTISTS ABSOLUTELY STUNNED AT THE FUKUSHIMA RADIATION FOUND IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/researchers-predict-killer-whales-west-coast-will-exceed-1000-bqkg-radioactive-cesium-coming-years-expert-govt-be-action-fukushima-contaminants-behaving-coming-next

WE TOLD YOU IT WAS SAFE ~ NOW GET IN THERE!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 20th, 2014, 08:50am

RADIOACTIVE WASTE ~ IN PILES ~ TOKYO

ALL DRESSED UP AND NO WHERE TO GO ~ ALL RADIOACTIVE AND WHO KNOWS WHERE IT GOES ~ GIVE ONE GUESS cool...WHEN JAPAN FLUSHED/FLUSHES THEIR NUCLEAR COMMODE...THE SEWAGE HEADS WESTWARD...GO WESTWARD YOUNG RADIOACTIVITY...

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201403070026

I HEAR THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT IS CONSIDERING HANDING OUT THESE T ~ SHIRTS FOR ALL THOSE WITHIN 100 KILOMETERS OF FUKU ~ SHAME ~ ONU. A REAL CONFIDENCE BUILDER IN THAT THE DELAYED REACTION TIME ~ "FOR THE T ~ SHIRT" SEEMS TO ASSURE A GLOWING EXPOSURE TO RADIOACTIVITY ~ THE COST OF GEIGER COUNTERS COULDN'T BE OFF SET TO TEPCO (SPOKESMAN FOR TEPCO SAID ~ AHHHH SOOOO ~ COST PROHIBITIVE SON)...AND THE BAND PLAYED ON grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 20th, 2014, 5:13pm



This catastrophe is the world’s worst industrial disaster. Decommissioning and dismantling the reactors will take decades and complete cleanup is at least a century away ~ if ever. In this film Fairewinds Energy Education’s Arnie Gundersen gives an update on the state of Fukushima Daiichi three years later.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 21st, 2014, 08:50am

BAGS USED TO STORE RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATED SOIL ~ TRES ANOS ~ THREE YEAR LIFE SPAN ~ HMMMM...WHERE'S MY CALENDER...O.K.~YEAH ~ BOUT THAT TIME ~ THEN WHAT ~ MORE BAGS ~ BAG~TASTIC cool

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2014/03/3-years-after-fukushima-nuclear.html

REMEMBER THE SOUTH SEAS...THE PACIFIC...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 21st, 2014, 4:49pm


I see you mentioned "bags" Z. It's happening here in the U.S. too,,,but on a much smaller scale.
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North Dakota's local authorities have brought attention to what they are calling the potentially largest illegal oil waste dumping case in the state's history after a discovery in an abandoned building of hundreds of radioactive oil filter socks used in the production process. State waste management authorities are describing the incident as potentially more than twice as large as another illegal dumping incident uncovered in February in McKenzie County. State Waste Management Director Scott Radig told reporters that hundreds of radioactive oil filter socks were discovered earlier this month stuffed into trash bags in an abandoned auto repair shop in the small town of Noonan in northwestern North Dakota. "It appears, unfortunately, to be the biggest one we've found," Radig said. "And it appears to have been there for quite some time." Disposal of these radioactive oil socks is banned in North Dakota, and oil companies are required to transport them to approved waste facilities in other states, where landfills allow for a higher level of radioactivity. Officials said the illegally dumped oil socks were tested for low levels of radioactivity, and that they presented no danger to the public unless directly handled. The owner of the abandoned building is reportedly a felony fugitive-Ken Ward--who is suspected of doing "independent work" for the oil and gas industry. "I suspect that [Ward] was doing contract work for some oil company and he told them he would - I'm sure for a price - take these and properly dispose of them," Radig speculated. "He did it the cheap way, took the money and took off." According to local health officials, the oil production boom in the state has led to increasing incidents of illegal dumping, with cases of radioactive oil socks being found along roadsides, in abandoned buildings or in commercial trash bins. In the meantime, state officials are working on new rules to better enable them to track oil field waste, with a draft due to be released to the public in June.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20140318-43058-USA
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 22nd, 2014, 07:43am

CLIFF ~NICE WORK!!!


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HEADLINES<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

DEATH THREATS FOR ~ DR. HELEN CALDICOTT ~ IN JAPAN ~ FOR SPEAKING ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER lipsrsealed

http://enenews.com/kpfa-dr-helen-caldicott-threatened-death-japan-speaking-about-nuclear-power-students-charged-disturbing-peace-handing-flyers-audio

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 22nd, 2014, 4:53pm

I don't think she'll be intimidated enough to stop.

Hold on a sec.,,,,dudes in black suits just pulled up and they're coming to my door..... shocked

Boop boop boop boop,,,,,

Open up! We know you're in there ....! huh undecided shocked kiss

Boop boop boop boop

grin grin grin grin grin cool


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 24th, 2014, 12:59pm

PACIFIC OCEAN THREATENED ~ WEST COAST IN THE CROSS HAIRS OF THE RADIOACTIVE PLUME ~ WHICH AT THIS JUNCTURE ~ WILL BE "AD INFINITUM" ~ UNPRECEDENTED CATASTROPHE lipsrsealed

http://enenews.com/video-pacific-ocean-is-under-incredible-threat-americans-are-now-starting-to-reap-that-on-their-west-coast-kamps-this-is-an-unprecedented-radioactive-catastrophe-there-should-be-indep

SURFS UP!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 25th, 2014, 09:24am

RADIOACTIVE WATER CONTAINMENT ~ 91% FULL ~ MAY OVERFLOW AS EARLY AS JUNE... lipsrsealed

http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/03/contaminated-water-storage-already-91-full-could-be-overflowing-by-this-coming-june/

WHUZZZ THE NEXT MOVE ONE SHOULD ASK...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 26th, 2014, 10:21am

RADIOACTIVE H2O POURING INTO THE PACIFIC ~ GENERATION ~ AFTER ~ GENERATION ~ AFTER?

THE COVER UP ~ THE TRUTH ~ THE REALITY lipsrsealed

http://enenews.com/caldicott-fukushima-be-pouring-radioactive-water-pacific-rest-time-forever-simply-anyone-about-nuclear-industry-covering-because-truth-comes-will-be-nuclear-power-audio


THE NEXT GENERATION BEACH GOERS WILL ENCOUNTER NEW NEW WARNINGS ASIDE FROM RIP TIDES/UNDER TOES/SHARKS...THE RAD WARNING FOR TODAY IS grin...THE LIFE GUARDS WILL PLACE SIGNS SIMILAR TO THIS AND HAVE LIKE FLAGS TO WAVE AS THEY WOULD FOR A HURRICANE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 27th, 2014, 1:53pm

JAPANESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE WITHHOLDING FUKUSHIMA RADIATION DATA ~ TOLD EVACUEES TO "GO" HOME ~ RELEASE OF SUCH DATA ~ GARGANTUAN IMPACT!!!

http://enenews.com/inside-source-govt-officials-are-withholding-fukushima-radiation-data-levels-much-higher-than-expected-releasing-numbers-would-have-a-huge-impact-over-2000-millisieverts-per-year-wher

HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS ~ AND ~ NOW ~ AN UNWELCOME GUEST OF OVER 2000 MILLISIEVERTS PER YEAR...
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 30th, 2014, 1:35pm

ALL WORK STOPPED ~ FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI ~ POST DEATH OF WORKER

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=12679

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by supersidufo on Mar 30th, 2014, 2:19pm

Zetar ! You have a way with words !!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 30th, 2014, 3:00pm

SID,

I AM BUT A HUMBLE SERVANT FOR THE LIGHT!

YOUR KIND WORDS ARE ALWAYS GREATLY APPRECIATED MY FRIEND wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 1st, 2014, 02:56am

Prosecutors drop charges over Fukushima nuclear disaster

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/10672216/Prosecutors-drop-charges-over-Fukushima-nuclear-disaster.html
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 7th, 2014, 4:07pm

FUKUSHIMA ~ JAPAN SYNDROME ~ CRISIS OUT OF CONTROL ~ READING THE TEA LEAVES FROM SUCH REALITY IS STARK cry

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/04/05/commentary/lessons-of-fukushima-reactor-restarts-are-unwise/#.U0MQgVd2hUB

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 9th, 2014, 09:08am

MARINE CHEMIST ~ FUKUSHIMA UNDERGROUND AQUIFER ~ HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE...

http://enenews.com/marine-chemist-highly-contaminated-radioactive-waste-flowing-aquifer-below-fukushima-mag-groundwater-erupt-seafloor-offshore-many-ways-exist-determine-seeping-photo

I WANNA GO INTO THE "H2O" BIDNESS grin grin grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 10th, 2014, 06:17am

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Atmospheric
Chemistry
and Physics

Xenon-133 and caesium-137 releases into the atmosphere from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant:
determination of the source term, atmospheric dispersion, and deposition

http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/11/28319/2011/acpd-11-28319-2011.pdf
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 10th, 2014, 11:37am

TEPCO ~ PUMPING RADIOACTIVE H20 INTO THE PACIFIC OCEAN ~ WILL NOT TEST/ANALYZE FOR PLUTONIUM NOR URANIUM IN BYPASS WATER BEFORE DISCHARGE ~ GROSS AND WANTON DISREGARD ~ IMHO! cry

http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/04/tepco-not-to-analyze-plutonium-or-uranium-in-bypass-water-before-discharging-to-the-pacific/

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EDIT TO ADD:

A WHOLE LOT OF "Pu~U"..."Pu~U" wink IN THE PARADISE OF THE PACIFIC...
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 11th, 2014, 12:58am

RSOE-EDIS -Emergency and Disaster Information Service

Saturday, 05 April, 2014 at 08:12 UTC

Water with radiation levels above normal has again flown over barriers around water tanks at the Fukushima nuclear power plant due to heavy rain, according to the TEPCO Company plant operator. The leakage was detected on Friday. The level of Caesium-137 and Caesium-134 in two of the water tanks was above what is seen as normal for discharging the water into soil or ocean. According to measurements, the concentration of Caesium-137 was 39 Bq/litre as against 25 Bq/litre, seen as a safe level. The concentration of Caesium-134 made up 25 Bq/litre, while no more than 15 Bq/litre is seen as normal. Strontium-90 stood at 10 Bq/litre, which is the upper limit of normal. The water has since been pumped into new holding tanks, but TEPCO cannot say anything about what the chances are that the water in question will make it to the ocean. 300 tons of radioactive water with Strontium concentrations of some 80 million Bq/litre leaked from the Fukushima NPP in August in what proved the gravest incident since the March 2011 disaster. The incident was rated at level 3 on the INES 7-level scale. Experts believe that a total of 455,000 tons of radioactive water is currently being held at the Fukushima NPP. According to experts, the amount of contaminated water grows by 400 tons daily due to the incoming groundwater. The Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster, the biggest one since the Chernobyl nuclear power plant major accident 25 years earlier, occurred in the wake of a powerful earthquake that hit the northeast of Japan on March 11th 2011. The 9.0 magnitude underground shocks caused a 14-metre high tsunami that flooded four of the Fukushima plant six reactors, putting the reactor cooling system out of operation and thus triggering a spate of hydrogen blasts and core melting.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20130729-40264-JPN&uid=14794
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Sunday, 30 March, 2014 at 04:25 UTC

A worker at Japan's wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant died on Friday after being buried under gravel while digging a ditch, prompting the operator to suspend cleanup work for safety checks. TEPCO said it was the first time a laborer had died as a direct result of an accident inside the plant since the nuclear disaster in March 2011, The Voice of Russia reports. An earthquake and tsunami struck the plant, 220 km (130 miles) northeast of Tokyo, sparking triple nuclear meltdowns, forcing more than 160,000 residents to flee from nearby towns and contaminating water, food and air. "In the three years since the disaster, we had not had any worker deaths caused by work (inside the plant). The fact that such a serious accident has occurred is deeply regrettable," said Tepco spokesman Masayuki Ono. The utility will suspend cleanup operations for an immediate safety inspection, Kyodo newswire reported. Most workers inside the plant are contract laborers hired by multiple layers of construction companies. A Reuters investigation last year found widespread labor abuses, where workers said their pay was skimmed and there was little scrutiny over working conditions inside the plant. Tepco on Friday would not name the worker's direct employer, but said he reported up to Toso Fudosan Kanri Company, a first-tier contractor under Tepco. The worker was in his 50s, the utility said. The company confirmed it had hired the worker through another subcontractor. Tepco has been widely criticized for its handling of the cleanup. The operator was plagued by a series of leaks of radioactive water from hastily built tanks at the site last year and it has repeatedly promised to improve working conditions. Earlier on Friday, Tepco said work to remove fuel rods from one of the destroyed reactor buildings had been halted after a worker had mishandled a giant crane, the first major delay in an operation to remove 1,533 fuel rod assemblies. The worker started moving a crane used to lift the fuel assemblies on Wednesday without disengaging the handbrake.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20130729-40264-JPN&uid=14780
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 11th, 2014, 11:37am

FUKUSHIMA ~ FRIENDS ~ FAMILY ~ ALL DYING SUDDENLY ~ PEOPLE ARE SICKER IN TOKYO cry

http://enenews.com/fairewinds-board-member-sense-grave-happening-japan-after-month-long-stay-many-fukushima-told-family-members-friends-dying-suddenly-people-sicker-tokyo-experienced-unusual-symptoms-skin-rash

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 11th, 2014, 1:45pm

And the anti nuclear saga continues, if any country knows how to deal with a nuclear disaster its Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now thriving city’s after the Americans polluted them in ww2 with nuclear weapons and unlike the American disaster that’s still a no go area. If the pollutants where as bad as the scaremongers would have you believe then those on the USA west coast would be showing radio active sickness by now so where is it, they just keep repeating the same old story yet nothing and next year it will be repeated and so on the saga goes .yes people got hurt and lessons need to be learned along with a change to safer reactors but you also have to keep in mind this was an act of god a natural disaster that could happen any where any time but we do need to use nuclear power due to such as climate change that will increase the demand for such power supply. Yes tighten up the laws rules governing the nuclear industry making it a better deal a cleaner safer deal.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Apr 11th, 2014, 2:11pm

Like most everything on the web it's difficult to sort the fact vs. fiction. There's an agenda everywhere and I have my suspicions about enenews.com. Is that suppose to be a site for energy news or some web spider that searches for stories on Fukushima and making headlines from various quotes in the stories? A lot of it seems taken out of context so I really don't know how reliable the information is.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 11th, 2014, 4:41pm

on Apr 11th, 2014, 1:45pm, hyundisonata wrote:
And the anti nuclear saga continues, if any country knows how to deal with a nuclear disaster its Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now thriving city’s after the Americans polluted them in ww2 with nuclear weapons and unlike the American disaster that’s still a no go area. If the pollutants where as bad as the scaremongers would have you believe then those on the USA west coast would be showing radio active sickness by now so where is it, they just keep repeating the same old story yet nothing and next year it will be repeated and so on the saga goes .yes people got hurt and lessons need to be learned along with a change to safer reactors but you also have to keep in mind this was an act of god a natural disaster that could happen any where any time but we do need to use nuclear power due to such as climate change that will increase the demand for such power supply. Yes tighten up the laws rules governing the nuclear industry making it a better deal a cleaner safer deal.


Yes, natural disasters do happen and will continue but, they were warned about previous tsunamis prior to this event. It should also be addressed that the readings at the gate showed that radiation levels were increasing before the tsunami actually struck, thus, the earthquake itself was the initial cause. That's alarming for many other reactors imho. Among other flaws in the design, the diesel backup generators were not built in the right location. They should have been placed uphill, they weren't. I'm not completely against nuclear power and was all for it once upon a time.

GhostofEd Quote:

Like most everything on the web it's difficult to sort the fact vs. fiction. There's an agenda everywhere and I have my suspicions about enenews.com. Is that suppose to be a site for energy news or some web spider that searches for stories on Fukushima and making headlines from various quotes in the stories? A lot of it seems taken out of context so I really don't know how reliable the information is.


Agreed. Imho there are other sources which we should be able to trust and rely on but cannot as well.

Too bad the good ole boys like Dan Rather isn't still around. wink


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 11th, 2014, 6:23pm

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT YOUR CONCERN FOR "ENEWS" ~ BUT CAN ANYONE DEFINITIVELY STATE WHICH MAIN STREAM MEDIA IS COVERING THIS DISASTER ~ AND IT IS A HORRIBLE AND HORRENDOUS CASE OF NEGLIGENCE ~ THEY KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE...NEVERTHELESS THEIR POLICIES (JAPAN) OF TODAY REFLECT THEIR SAME CONCERN FOR THEIR PEOPLE AS WAS PRESENT WHEN THIS PLANT WAS INSTALLED ~ PROFIT OVER PEOPLE! ~ MAINTAIN STATUS QUO ~ IS THAT LOGICAL WHEN SUCH APPROACH MAY CAUSE A COLLAPSE FROM WITHIN THE COUNTRY...TIME WILL TELL...AND SILENCE IS THE PROTOCOL.

CERTAINLY THE MINISTERS OF PROPAGANDA USED "CNN" AS ITS' MOUTHPIECE IN THEIR PRESENTATION OF "PANDORA'S PROMISE" WHEREIN THEY STATED NO ONE WAS HARMED FROM CHERNOBYL ~ AND ABSOLUTELY NOT A PEEP FROM EITHER COMMENTATOR NOR NUKE EXPERTS ON THE REALITY OF FUKUSHIMA cool

ARE THERE OTHER METHODS TO BOIL WATER AND MAKE STEAM ~ YES ~ IS THERE ANY CONTRACTOR(S) THAT DOESN'T FUDGE SAFETY PROTOCOL AND INSPECTIONS (DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE CONTRACT IS COST PLUS/BEHIND ON PRODUCTION SCHEDULE/MANY VARIABLES)...DID TEPCO KNOW THAT AN EARTHQUAKE TSUNAMI WOULD DEVASTATE THEIR PLANTS ~ UNQUESTIONABLY YES ~ HOWEVER, THEY FIGURED IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN FOR AT LEAST 500 YEARS ~ OR THAT LOOKED GOOD ON PAPER wink

MOREOVER ~ I HAVE BEEN TO NAGASKI BUT MISSED HIROSHIMA AND SAID SIGHTS WERE FROM AN INSTANT RELEASE OF ATOMIC ENERGY ~ RATHER THAN A CONTINUOUS/CONSTANT/INFINITE PURGE OF HIGHLY CONTAMINATED RADIOACTIVE WATER ~ AND ~ REALLY ~ WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE HAS BEEN DUMPED ~ YA THINK THEY MIGHT BUILD ANOTHER AIRPORT WITH ALL THE CONTAMINATED SOIL ~ PILOTS WOULDN'T NEED A BEACON ~ JUZZZZ HUNT FOR THE GLOWING RUNWAY AT NIGHT grin...

THE U.S./WEST COAST IS DOWN STREAM/WIND FROM EVERY MISSTEP/MISTAKE/MISHAP ASSOCIATED WITH THIS MATTER...
DOES IT REALLY TAKE GENIUS TO FACTOR THIS SCENARIO CAN'T BE BENEFICIAL TO THE ECOSYSTEM ~ MANKIND.

YEP ~ JUZZZ LIKE THOSE TEST SUBJECTS/SOLDIERS/OBSERVERS DOTTED ALL AROUND THE DROP ZONE IN THE MANHATTAN PROJECT ~ ALL YOU NEED IS SUNGLASSES ~ RADIATION IS THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES ~

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 11th, 2014, 6:33pm

on Apr 11th, 2014, 6:23pm, ZETAR wrote:
YEP ~ JUZZZ LIKE THOSE TEST SUBJECTS/SOLDIERS/OBSERVERS DOTTED ALL AROUND THE DROP ZONE IN THE MANHATTAN PROJECT ~ ALL YOU NEED IS SUNGLASSES ~ RADIATION IS THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES ~


cool grin

Yep, my dad was on a Navy destroyer around Bikini Island (or one of them atolls) during WWII when they were testing and dropped one.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Apr 11th, 2014, 7:39pm

sad
angry angry
shocked shocked shocked
angry angry
sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeD_VvTFvac

shocked
rolleyes rolleyes
lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
cry cry
embarassed
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 11th, 2014, 7:55pm

MOKSHA,

"WELCOME TO THE NEW AGE ~ RADIOACTIVE"

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 11th, 2014, 8:11pm

CLIFF,

BOTH OF OUR FATHERS WERE IN THE HEAT OF THINGS ~ MY DAD WAS ON THE ISLAND OF "TINIAN" IN THE PACIFIC WHEN THE "ENOLA GAY" TOOK OFF ~ HE SAID THEY BLACKED OUT THE ENTIRE ISLAND FOR TAKEOFF...

ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR INPUT MY FRIEND cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 14th, 2014, 4:41pm

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

Fukushima Return: At Nuclear Site, How Safe is “Safe?”

Residents cleared to return after massive cleanup, but some wonder whether it's a bid to cut victim compensation.

For the first time since Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power disaster three years ago, residents of a small portion of the surrounding restricted area are being allowed to return home, even though radiation levels remain elevated.

At midnight on March 31, the Japanese government officially lifted an evacuation order for a portion of the Miyakoji district of Tamura, a city about 12 miles (20 kilometers) inland from the nuclear plant. Some 360 residents are now free to return to their homes, according to the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun. They were among 80,000 people from the surrounding communities who were forced to flee after the earthquake-triggered tsunami of March 11, 2011, inundated Fukushima, knocked out its crucial backup power, and set off a catastrophic accident and release of radiation. (Related:"Japan's Nuclear Refugees," and "Japan Reactor Crisis: Satellite Pictures Reveal Damage.") The vast majority of the evacuees remain barred from returning.

Continue Reading Here :
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2014/04/140402-fukushima-return-radiation/

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Notice the bags that Zetar previously mentioned in the image inside the link at Nat Geo. sad

Insert image of Guinea Pigs here >undecided< $$$$$$$$$$$


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 16th, 2014, 1:50pm

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ~ FUKUSHIMA ~ WORLD'S WORST NUCLEAR ACCIDENT ~ MICHIO KAKU ~ "IT'S SO BAD THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PICTURE OF MELTED CORE...THE AGONY IS UNENDING"

http://enenews.com/national-geographic-fukushima-considered-the-worlds-worst-nuclear-accident-expert-fukushima-a-global-health-concern-kaku-the-agony-is-unending-video

UNENDING = FOREVER ~ I THOUGH THIS DESCRIBED THIS CATASTROPHE BEST...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 21st, 2014, 5:58pm

FUKUSHIMA BOSS ~ WATER OUT OF CONTROL!

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/04/20/national/fukushima-no-1-boss-admits-water-woes-out-of-control/#.U1Wf-Vd2hUB

MAYORS OF TOWNS ~ IN FUKUSHIMA PREFECTURE ~ SPEAK OUT...

http://www.japan-press.co.jp/modules/news/index.php?id=7099

THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION ~ cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 24th, 2014, 2:30pm

FUKUSHIMA CENSORED IN U.S. MEDIA shocked

http://enenews.com/show-host-told-discuss-fukushima-air-anyway-didnt-talked-about-lot-eventually-became-undeniable-world-rushing-aid-japan-because-be-getting-worse-worse-horror-tragedy-video

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 25th, 2014, 2:18pm

TEPCO HAS RECEIVED 37 BILLION FROM THE U.S. THUS FAR ~

http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/04/nuclear-is-cheap-tepco-received-27th-financial-support-from-nuclear-damage-fund-3-7-trillion-yen-so-far/

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Apr 25th, 2014, 2:50pm


It seems meltdowns became melt thru..and now ..worst of worst..melt outs..

The Japanese will need all those islands for people to escape to as the clear truth gets out..

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-04-25/theyve-found-missing-fukushima-nuclear-cores-scattered-all-over-japan


they've Found the Missing Fukushima Nuclear Cores ... Scattered All Over Japan

We reported in May 2011 that authorities knew – within days or weeks – that all 3 active Fukushima nuclear reactors had melted down, but covered up that fact for months.

The next month, we reported that Fukushima’s reactors had actually suffered something much worse: nuclear melt-throughs, where the nuclear fuel melted through the containment vessels and into the ground. At the time, this was described as:

The worst possibility in a nuclear accident.

But now, it turns out that some of the Fukushima reactors have suffered even a more extreme type of damage: melt-OUTS.

By way of background, we’ve noted periodically that scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are.

And that highly radioactive black “dirt” has been found all over Japan.

It turns out that the highly radioactive black substances are likely remnants of the core.

The Journals Environmental Science & Technology and Journal of Environmental Radioactivity both found (hat tip EneNews) that the highly radioactive black substances match fuel from the core of the Fukushima reactors.

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission agrees.

Indeed, “hot particles” with extremely high levels of radiation – 7 billion, 40 billion , and even 40 billion billion Bq/kg – have been found all over the Fukushima region, and hundreds of miles away … in Tokyo.

I'm surprise they dont use old areal film to survey..and see alll the black dots scattered over the place..
we now have a lot more people exposed than was believed..what a horrific tragedy..



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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 25th, 2014, 4:12pm

Looks like the anti nuclear lobby is scaremongering again, love the way they use the words SCATTERED ALL OVER JAPAN, Just look at this disaster with a dollop of common sense, if there where hot rocks all over Japan then they would have been deposited at the time of the explosion but not only hot rocks but dust as well that would have made its way into the lungs now we are cooking, average survival of such a high dose would be about a week yet this happened over three years ago and if it was as bad as the author indicates then Japan would no longer exist as most of its inhabitants would be dead and what is left would be knocking on deaths door. If idiots are going to make up silly stories then at least make them realistic and not total B/S as this story was, they probably looked up acute radiation sickness on the net then added some salt and pepper in the hope that the public would swallow this B/S and demand nuclear power be banned but hey folks you all know I am pro nuclear so don’t take my word on it go look at the facts your self.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Apr 25th, 2014, 4:55pm

someone said exposure to radiation was a very healthy process , its like getting free immuno therapy..however I dont know what inhaling plutonium in hairspray form or dust does..
I just wish they had not passed the secrecy act because any health data report would be suppressed..
but on the positive side..worst hat could happen is Japan would solve its aging population problem quickly.they got us into this mess anyway... grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Apr 25th, 2014, 5:31pm

What the truth is I can't say anymore.

Was there acute symptoms reported, in the first few hours ?
I wonder if there was, would it be reported to the public ?

I can only hope this link below is accurate, it says trustworthy,
but I've been duped before.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000026.htm
MW
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 25th, 2014, 10:26pm

on Apr 25th, 2014, 2:50pm, Sysconfig wrote:
It seems meltdowns became melt thru..and now ..worst of worst..melt outs..

The Japanese will need all those islands for people to escape to as the clear truth gets out..

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-04-25/theyve-found-missing-fukushima-nuclear-cores-scattered-all-over-japan


they've Found the Missing Fukushima Nuclear Cores ... Scattered All Over Japan

We reported in May 2011 that authorities knew – within days or weeks – that all 3 active Fukushima nuclear reactors had melted down, but covered up that fact for months.

The next month, we reported that Fukushima’s reactors had actually suffered something much worse: nuclear melt-throughs, where the nuclear fuel melted through the containment vessels and into the ground. At the time, this was described as:

The worst possibility in a nuclear accident.

But now, it turns out that some of the Fukushima reactors have suffered even a more extreme type of damage: melt-OUTS.

By way of background, we’ve noted periodically that scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are.

And that highly radioactive black “dirt” has been found all over Japan.

It turns out that the highly radioactive black substances are likely remnants of the core.

The Journals Environmental Science & Technology and Journal of Environmental Radioactivity both found (hat tip EneNews) that the highly radioactive black substances match fuel from the core of the Fukushima reactors.

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission agrees.

Indeed, “hot particles” with extremely high levels of radiation – 7 billion, 40 billion , and even 40 billion billion Bq/kg – have been found all over the Fukushima region, and hundreds of miles away … in Tokyo.

I'm surprise they dont use old areal film to survey..and see alll the black dots scattered over the place..
we now have a lot more people exposed than was believed..what a horrific tragedy..



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I believe nuclear engineer Arnie Gunderson had talked about radioactive black dust in Tokyo awhile back. His biggest fear from this was if the situation turned to skyshine.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by hyundisonata on Apr 26th, 2014, 01:25am

The way I see it guys is that the nuclear industry is divided into two half’s, one half is public and supplies clean power and I fully support the use of said power. Then we have the dirty half controlled by governments and arms dealers, now Japan was an act of god and yes mistakes where made in location and design and hopefully lessons will be learned along with tighter controls implemented. The dirty side is the bad boy and America tops the list, it was bad enough testing A-bombs but using them on women and children takes the biscuit and you would have hoped it would have ended at that point but it didn’t as they went on to making bigger bombs that in turn led to dirty weapons the new toy on the block that the Americans love using all over the world.
http://mondediplo.com/2002/03/03uranium
If Japan was located well away from the USA instead of a stones throw across a pond then very few in the states would give a dam but because of the possibility of it reaching your beaches you stamp your little feet while still backdoor peddling your dirty weapons along with your military using them again on women and children around the world and you all turn a blind eye as its not on your door step or is it?


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 29th, 2014, 1:07pm

HYUNDI,

YEAH ~ I'M SURE THERE'S SOME YEN AND YANG IN THE NUCLEAR CARTEL BUT AS WE SPEAK WE ARE GETTING "YENED AND YANGED" ~ AS THE OCEAN IS FILLED WITH CESIUM/STRONTIUM/ETC. ~ ALL ARRIVING PROMPTLY ON THE WEST COAST AS YOU READ THIS cry

http://enenews.com/pbs-reporter-miles-obrien-one-likes-ocean-filled-cesium-strontium-arriving-west-coast-speak-likes-idea-eating-cesium-fukushima-tainted-water-dumped-pacific-speak-audio

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 2nd, 2014, 10:58am

INTERNATIONAL GROUP OF PRESTIGIOUS SCIENTISTS ~ MAJOR CONCERN FOR PUBLIC HEALTH ON THE WEST COAST ~ BIOACCUMULATION ~ WHODDA THUNK ~ shocked

http://enenews.com/paper-prestigious-group-of-international-scientists-interested-in-risk-to-west-coast-from-fukushima-radioactive-plume-major-concern-for-the-public-health-of-coastal-communities-bioacc

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HMMM...WONDER WHERE THOSE 14 MILLION DOSES OF POTASSIUM IODIDE WENT rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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Post by Sysconfig on May 8th, 2014, 12:10am

Explosion at Plutonium plant...Hanford..

http://www.nbcrightnow.com/story/25408984/pipe-explosion-at-hanford-plutonium-finishing-plant-site
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Post by hyundisonata on May 8th, 2014, 04:31am

If flame was seen then no doubt residue escaped but I would say that is the least you all should be worrying about, here you have a company using cheap labor along with covering up an incident so I would question where the waste was going and how it was being handled as that is the expensive area of a clean up and if they are cutting cost then the rest is history.
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Post by Sysconfig on May 10th, 2014, 7:21pm

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Everything is under Control and going to plan
http://rt.com/news/158084-fukushima-nuclear-japan-cesium/
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Post by ZETAR on May 18th, 2014, 2:08pm

DEATHS AND MUTILATIONS "INCREASE SHARPLY" ~ SMALL AMOUNTS OF CESIUM MAY BE "SIGNIFICANTLY TOXIC" ~ THE WRITING ON THE WALL ~ AND THE RADIATION HEAD YOUR WAY rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

http://enenews.com/just-in-new-study-reveals-sharp-increase-in-deaths-and-mutations-from-exposure-to-fukushima-contamination-especially-at-low-doses-small-levels-of-cesium-may-be-significantly-toxic

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THE HORROR HAS YET TO REGISTER WITH THE DENIAL CADRE ~ cry

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Post by ZETAR on May 19th, 2014, 2:04pm

cool cool cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 20th, 2014, 4:58pm

MY TRINAISSANCIAN RESPONSE TO THIS UNUSUAL DEBACLE RESULTED IN A SONG/TRACK ~ JUST FOR FUKUSHIMA FANS ~ I SHALL UPLOAD AND LINK HERE ONCE I GET SOME SATURATION FROM THE FIVE TRACKS I LOADED HERE>>>http://ReverbNation.com/PhilipScales/<<< ~ cool

YES INDEED ~ YOU CAN ANTICIPATE "REACH BEYOND TIME" IN EARS SOON wink

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Post by drwu23 on May 20th, 2014, 9:13pm

For Zetar......

Will you smile like any mother as you bathe your brand new twins ?
Will you smile like any father with your children on a Sunday hike?
Will you sing about the missiles as you dry odd numbered limbs ?
Oh well, that's this WORLD over ......
............................................... Oh well, next ONE begins


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 21st, 2014, 12:14pm

DRWU,

ELOQUENT ~ UNQUESTIONABLY WE ARE AT A CLEAR AND DISTINCT PRECIPICE cool

MILLIONS OF FISH DIE OFF ~ GLOBALLY!!!
LOGIC WOULD PRECLUDE ~ ASKING ONE SIMPLE QUESTION ~ WHAT MIGHT BE A "COMMON DENOMINATOR" ~ WELL...THE SHIP HAS SAILED ON THIS TRAGEDY AND MOST CERTAINLY IS IN PERILOUS UNCHARTED WATERS ~ KINDA LIKE REARRANGING THE CHAIRS ON THE TITANIC ~ rolleyes

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/05/mass-fish-deaths-millions-have-been.html

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 23rd, 2014, 1:11pm

ELEVATED "RADS" FOR "CALI" ~ TO LAST FOR DECADES ~ BIOACCUMULATION ~ FOREGONE CONCLUSION ~ cry

http://enenews.com/inseveral-decades

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on May 23rd, 2014, 5:25pm

ZETAR,

http://www.radiationnetwork.com

The above link takes you to the radiation monitoring network.

I have had a look at this every day since the beginning of the Fukushima scare. There has been no increase in the levels for the West coast.

Oddly, Boulder ,Colorado has always had the highest readings in the USA.

HAL
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Post by Sysconfig on May 23rd, 2014, 11:50pm

this site reveals a steady flurry of planned stations from Saudis to Brazil...even after the "painful " decision to dump everything into the Pacific.sad
http://www.nei.org/News-Media/News/Contracts



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 4th, 2014, 10:57pm

MY MUSICAL THOUGHTS ON FUKUSHIMA ~ cool
REACH BEYOND TIME...

http://www.reverbnation.com/p/HmfrEA

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Post by ZETAR on Jun 5th, 2014, 12:54pm

FUKUSHIMA A HORROR OF PANDEMIC PROPORTIONS ~ cool

http://ecowatch.com/2014/06/03/fukushima-global-nightmare/

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Post by ZETAR on Jun 6th, 2014, 1:15pm

A RADIOLOGICAL PANDEMIC WHICH BY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES WILL LAST THIS LONG ~ cool

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http://enenews.com/experts-fukushima-melted-fuel-concern-millennia-risk-criticality-movement-redistribution-corium-tepco-chief-difficult-path-ahead-be-able-move-forward-find-damaged-fuelvideo

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Post by drwu23 on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:06pm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:12pm

Are you with me, Drwu ?

Are really just a shadow of the man that I once knew ?

Has she finally got to you ?

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:19pm

Zetar,

No it won't.

Radioactive decay is finite.

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:38pm

on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:12pm, INT21 wrote:
Are you with me, Drwu ?

Are really just a shadow of the man that I once knew ?

Has she finally got to you ?

HAL
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"Are you crazy..are you high, or just an ordinary guy?
Are you with me Doctor? "

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Post by Sysconfig on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:48pm

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I would add also whether are not their newborns are born with turtle shells and glowing, fear monger to incite to war, is good...but not good for Nuclear club..
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Post by ZETAR on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:58pm

KINDA OBVIOUS THEY CAN'T PLUG THE LEAK ~ AND INDEED EACH ELEMENT HAS IT'S OWN PATICULAR HALF~LIFE ~ MY POINT BEING IS THE COSEQUENCES OF THE BIO-ACCUMULATION WILL ~ YOUR A QUICK WIT ~ SPECULATION ON THE PREDICTED COST OF NONIRRADIATED SEAFOOD ~ AT LEAST THOSE WHOM MIGHT LISTENING TO THE CLICKS OVER THEIR CATCH ~ cool ~ ASIDE FROM THE MUTATED CELL DIVISION...THE CLOCK STRIKES CLOSER TO MIDNIGHT

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Post by INT21 on Jun 6th, 2014, 2:59pm

About this radiation business.

A few days ago I watched one of these documentaries that followed the work of the customs and immigration staff at, I think, JFK.

Part way through it there was a minor flap amongst the agents when a radiation detector went off. It was one of the kind carried on the body.

A quick scan around showed it to be coming from a family that looked to be of middle east origin.

So they separated the people from their baggage, and it turned out to be from the younger woman in the group.

She was radio active.

In the end there was no problem as she had had a barium meal before a scan.

But think a bit about this. She triggered a radiation counter from a distance of about twenty feet.

Would you like to be sitting behind her on a ten hour flight ?

Puts a whole new meaning to the expression 'hot chick'.

HAL
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Post by INT21 on Jun 6th, 2014, 3:04pm

ZETAR,

ASIDE FROM THE MUTATED CELL DIVISION.,,

YOU COULD USE THAT TO WIPE OUT THE 'MODIFIED BY ALIENS' ARGUMENT.

SOME MAY DISAGREE.

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 6th, 2014, 3:52pm

WITH MUTATIONS WHO/WHOM CAN PREDICT ~ YOUR HYPOTHESIS DOES ENTERTAIN THE ASPECT OF COSMIC CONCERN ~ OR COULD SUCH HEIGHTEN THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS ~ YEAH...A SUPER-SATURATED RADIOLOGICAL ENVIRNMENT DOESN'T SOUND TO HEALTHY ~ cool

YA KNOW I WAS THINKING TODAY ~ THAT THIS PALNET IS LIKE AN ISLAND IN THE COSMOS ~ AND THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY ~ WHAT WILL BE THE DOMINO EFFECT ~ DIMENSIONALLY/COSMICALLY ~ FOR SUCH STEWARDSHIP ~ MUCH LIKE ANY ISLAND TRAVERSED ON SEA OR OCEAN ~ MAYBE THROUGH SOME DARK ENERGY/TIME DISTORTION-WARP/BLACKUS HOLUS/MULTI-DIMENSIONAL ~ THERE COULD BE A SORT OF ISLAND/PLANETARY/DIMENSIONAL HOPPING ~ JUZZ STIRRING DA STEW ~ HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED IT SEEMS REASONABLE THAT WE'VE HAD VISITORS TO EARTH'S SHORES...IMHO...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Jun 6th, 2014, 4:43pm

it is interesting to note that although some radioactive have half lifes of thousand of years...there are toxic chemical such as lead and mercury cadmium etc..that have no half life..and they live a full life forever.. cool
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Post by ZETAR on Jun 6th, 2014, 5:05pm

SYS,

BUT OF COURSE ~ AN UNUSUAL MARTINI ~ I'LL HAVE MINE SHAKEN ~ NOT STIRRED ~ cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 15th, 2014, 3:53pm

NUCLEAR REGULATORY AUTHORITY (NRA) ~ MARINE SOIL CONTAMINATED DUE TO FUKUSHIMA AND SUGGEST THE CONTAMINATION SPREAD TOWARD ALASKA ~ YOU'RE KIDDING ME rolleyes

http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/06/nra-reports-marine-soil-contamination-stretches-s-w-to-n-e-n-e-from-fukushima-plant-is-alaska/

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YA MEAN MORE OF THIS IS EXPECTED ~ cool

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Post by ZETAR on Jul 1st, 2014, 10:41am

JAPAN HAS ASKED FOR WORLD WIDE HELP WITH FUKUSHIMA ~ cool

http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/06/japanese-gov-advertises-for-worldwide-ideas-to-remove-molten-fuel-from-3-crippled-reactors/

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Post by supersidufo on Jul 2nd, 2014, 02:48am

I would like to say - just in case you gentleman + ladies feel that not all are interested in this subject - I receive and read all the updates - You may continue - Very very interesting !

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Post by ZETAR on Jul 6th, 2014, 2:51pm

VOILA ~ THINK ~ AND YE SHALL FIND ~ wink

THE NEW "OLD FAITHFUL" OF THE FAR EAST ~ REALLY NOT THAT "FAR" WITH OCEAN CURRENT AND WINDS ALOFT/TRADE WINDS EH shocked

NO WAY TO STOP/CONTAIN MELTING/MELTED CORES TIMES "3" ~ ALAS ~ THE ERUPTION OF STEAM ~ THE JAPAN SYNDROME ~ SCIENTIFIC BANKRUPTCY ~ cry

http://enenews.com/top-official-reality-technology-exists-anywhere-solve-problem-fukushimas-melted-fuel-tv-molten-mass-will-scorch-earth-cooled-china-syndrome-geysers-radioactive-steam-shooting-miles-around-videos

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Post by supersidufo on Jul 12th, 2014, 2:05pm

Zetar - What a thread - This will be going when i am 80 plus . Good one !
PS I shall be 70 on the 30 th Aug ! AAAAAAAHHHHHH !

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Post by ZETAR on Jul 12th, 2014, 2:14pm

SID,

I SHALL WISH YOU AN EARLY BIRTHDAY ~ 70 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE POINTS ~ wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 6th, 2014, 11:08am

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-06/three-years-later-japan-finally-tells-truth-more-fuel-melted-fukushima

After years of obfuscation and, simply put, lies; TEPCO has admitted in a new report that more nuclear fuel had melted at the Fukushima nuclear reactor than previously stated. While this is dreadful news, it gets worse, as the report further confirms that despite Abe's promises and TEPCO's state-funded efforts to build ice-walls, it may miss an important deadline binding it to clean radioactive water stored inside the Fukushima nuclear plant. Bloomberg reports officials commenting "we are doing everything we can do," but it appears, that is not enough as tens of thousands of tons of toxic water are expected to remain at the site by the imposed deadline.



As NHK reports, the meltdown was far more significant that originally publicly stated...

Tepco finds meltdown of the fuel at Fukushima Dai-Ichi No. 3 nuclear reactor began at about 5am on March 13, 2011, five hours earlier than co. previously estimated, NHK reports, citing co.’s latest findings.

Most of the fuel may have melted through the base of the reactor into the containment vessel by 6am the next day: NHK
And now we find that TEPCO's clean-up plans are failing...

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Post by INT21 on Aug 6th, 2014, 11:42am

Can some mod please fix whatever is causing the wide screens.

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Post by supersidufo on Aug 6th, 2014, 1:49pm

Thank You Zetar for the early birthday wish - Getting closer to the day! grin cool wink
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Post by ZETAR on Aug 6th, 2014, 2:08pm

SID,

INDEED ~ IT'S THE THOUGHT(S) THAT COUNT

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 6th, 2014, 2:46pm

WHAT ABOUT THE BOO-BOO AT FUKU ~ WHITEWASHED ~ rolleyes

http://enenews.com/physician-trying-whitewash-fukushima-catastrophe-report-reveals-9000-people-will-die-cancers-number-higher-correct-data-actually-professor-could-call-brainwashing-infamous-lie-abuse-science-data-co

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 6th, 2014, 5:51pm

Wherever America is headed Japan will get there first,
if only because it is the Canary in the cage.
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Post by ZETAR on Aug 8th, 2014, 7:12pm

MICHAEL JACKSON ~ WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THE WORLD ~ cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU
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EDIT TO ADD;

WHAT ABOUT US!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 10th, 2014, 01:38am

I think old friend..after reading a report..droves ex cia fbi reitiring from gov..forming own enclaves..is good sign..we are on our own..Japanese should start considering South America..many communities there..and others too!


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-09/japan-prepares-release-thousands-tons-fukushima-groundwater-pacific
A few days ago, with over a three year delay, Japan finally admitted what was clear to most from day one: the consequences of the Fukushima disaster have been far, far worse than officials had reported, and not only is the containment effort out of control, but that more nuclear fuel had melted at the Fukushima nuclear reactor than previously reported, suggesting that neither TEPCO nor the government have had any success in mitigating what is now the worst - and ongoing - nuclear disaster in history.

So now, perhaps to celebrate its truth-telling ways, TEPCO has announced that it is planning to release thousands of tons of radioactive groundwater from the Fukushima disaster site into the ocean. Actually scratch that: officially the water dumped into the Pacific will be "decontaminated", because TEPCO has that rare habit of "telling the truth." It will also do so only after getting permission from local fishermen, who apparently have a choice: whether to catch five-eyed tuna after giving TEPCO "yes" for an answer, or merely catching five-eyed tuna, period.

As NHK confirms, TEPCO "is seeking approval from fishermen to discharge decontaminated ground water into the ocean."

The spin: dumping "decontaminated" water into the ocean is an improvement because Fukushima is already leaking some 200 tons of contaminated ground water per day into the ocean. So why not slap a "treated" sticker on the water and just dump it all. It's not as if the idiotic plan lifted straight from Game of Thrones, which Japan came up with last year to encase Fukushima in a frozen sarcophagus had any chance of working. So now it is straight to what anyone with a functioning frontal lobe said would happen anyway: thousands if not millions of tons of radioactive water will enter the Pacific anyway. Only this time TEPCO is at least pretending to care about the truth and/or the environment.

More from NHK:

Highly radioactive water at the plant is seeping into the earth and mixing with ground water. Experts estimate around 200 tons of contaminated ground water are leaking into the ocean each day.

Engineers with Tokyo Electric Power Company are building an iron barrier along a coastal embankment in a bid to contain the problem.

TEPCO officials say they plan to pump the water and remove radioactive substances using a decontamination system they are building.They say they also want to decontaminate ground water collected at wells near reactor buildings before releasing it into the ocean. They will apply to the government to build drainage pipes and other facilities to do so.
But the officials say they will not go ahead without the consent of the fishermen. They say their plan is an improvement on the current situation, as contaminated water is spilling directly into the ocean.
So to summarize: TEPCO will politely ask the local fishermen if it is allowed to dump thousands of tons of "decontaminated" radioactive water into the ocean, and if it doesn't get the green light, it will continue to dump thousands of tons of contaminated radioactive water into the ocean.

Surely some Keynesian professor in some radioactive Tokyo ivory tower has found a way that this idiocy will add to GDP.

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Post by Sysconfig on Aug 14th, 2014, 11:04am

Knock Knock..Who's there?
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New report estimates 278 trillion Bq of plutonium released from Fukushima reactors — Over 200 times higher than amount reported by Tepco — “Highly radiotoxic when incorporated into human body” as it decays
•Study: Plutonium from Fukushima went further than Chernobyl — Researchers ‘surprised’ their most plutonium-contaminated sample was from site farthest from Fukushima plant — Concern material is flowing into Pacific Ocean from land
•‘Shock’: Water underneath Fukushima reactors to be dumped in ocean — Attempts to deal with problem have ‘failed’ — Officials: It’s better than radioactive substances just “spilling directly into the ocean” like it is now (VIDEO)
•Fox: Fukushima radioactive material still being found in U.S. soil — Japan Gov’t: The disaster “posed radiation threat to human society”… In 4 days “detectable all across northern hemisphere” — Denmark: Fukushima clearly had widespread consequences, not limited to borders (VIDEOS)
•Professor: Fukushima scaring ‘bejesus’ out of everybody in world… still flowing in ocean, radiation levels unknown — Clearly detectable in tuna at California coast… We focus a lot on bio-accumulation — Japan: Reactor leaks “may have gathered as a lump and drifted offshore, we need to continue monitoring it” (VIDEO)
•Researchers: Radioactive materials detected off California, levels spike to 400% normal — Crew then discovers ‘island’ of tsunami debris — Never seen so much garbage in ocean before — TV: “Disturbing new images from Pacific… looks like islands of plastic” 1,000 miles from coast — 7 tons and 80 ft. long, can walk on it as if land (VIDEO & PHOTOS)
•Video: Fukushima debris “waist high” on Canadian island; “Catastrophic death” trapped in nets, it’s horrifying; 15-mile long lines of floating trash — Journalist: Radioactive tsunami debris found far from Fukushima plant — Global concern over spread of contamination

•Japan TV: Injecting water into Fukushima reactor accelerated meltdown — Nuclear fuel rods had “reaction generating large amounts of heat” — ‘Restricted’ Data: Monitoring post measured nearly 1,000,000 microSv/hr; Within hours radiation dose spiked 30,000% far away from plant (VIDEO)
•Tokyo Professor: Surges in airborne radioactive releases have gone on for years at Fukushima — Exceeded 25,000 times normal level — Radiation alarms sound for hours at plant — ‘Extensive’ areas being impacted (VIDEO)
•Study: Multiple surges of radioactive substances detected far from Fukushima Daiichi — Over 10,000 times usual levels at plant — Mayor: Gov’t knew but never told us, they can’t be trusted — Worst may be yet to come; Risk of ‘much broader’ contamination — CBS: “Many miles away… spike in cesium detected this week”
Coincidental Wildlife Death and Injury?

•TV: “Mysterious die off of young salmon” in Pacific Northwest — “Healthy… and then they die” heading out to sea — “Far less plankton than normal… There are too many questions” — Researchers now testing for plankton and Fukushima contamination off West Coast (VIDEO)
•Alaska: “Scientists alarmed by new mystery disease” — Pacific Northwest: “Alarming changes” — “Couldn’t believe my eyes” — “Scientists really stumped… It’s kind of an alien thing” — “Gotten much, much worse… a horror show… could wreak havoc on entire ecosystems from Mexico to Alaska” (VIDEO)
•TV: Huge increase in dead and sick sea mammals on California coast — Unprecedented numbers, annual record broken in 7 months — Starving, drooling, brain damaged, suffering seizures — Sea lions ‘mysteriously’ vanishing on other side of Pacific — Experts: We don’t know what’s happening (VIDEO)
•TV: Mounds of millions of jellyfish-like creatures wash up on Pacific beaches across multiple states — “They lined entire Oregon Coast” — Seen for first time in a great many years — Official: “They just covered the sea surface… as far as we could see” — Thought to mix with ones from Japan (VIDEO & PICS)
•CBS: This is really disturbing, sea stars dying by the millions on West Coast — Like the Black Death, only faster and deadlier — ‘Mystery plague’ affecting 20+ species — TV: Disappears from Orange County coast over 2 week period — Expert: “Largest epidemic ever in ocean… Something has changed in marine environment to lead to this” (VIDEO)
•AP: Marine birds disappearing in Pacific Northwest — Significant ecological shift, crashes in many species — “Something’s happening on a big level, but what is it” — Herring problem may be far worse than revealed… result of contamination? Mexico suddenly bans bluefin tuna fishing, US may be next
•Officials in U.S. report “very rare mutations” in Pacific sea life — “Never seen anything like this” — Photos show red crabs completely white, “shockingly bright blue… almost unnatural”, or with yellow legs — Environment “could play a role” — Also observed recently by Japan (VIDEO)
•Gov’t reports “big, big decline” in Alaska caribou — “Mortality very high” after Fukushima releases began — “Low survival rate” for calves also in 2011 and 2012 — Official: “Worrisome” how quickly this happened… In truth, we don’t have an answer why (AUDIO)
•Report: “Worst he’s ever seen” says Alaska boat captain — Fishermen “talking about Fukushima… convinced it has something to do with it” — Salmon “not showing up… many have lesions or worms and parasites” — Crabs “more easily damaged… a lot of dead catch” — Herring, cod, halibut, pollock catches “dropping off cliff”
Impacts On Human Health?

•California Newspaper: Health effects in U.S. from Fukushima radiation? Stanford Professor: “Am I concerned? Yes I am, that’s because I know radiation … there’s increased risk … avoid radiation as much as you can” — UC Berkeley Nuclear Prof: “Everyone is really scared of it … that’s what the big problem is”
•Physician: U.N. whitewashing Fukushima catastrophe, yet their report reveals “more than 9,000 will die of cancers”… number likely much higher if correct data used — Professor: “It’s brainwashing… an infamous lie… an abuse of science… their own data contradicts their public conclusion” (VIDEO)
•Guardian: Abnormal blood in monkeys linked to Fukushima disaster — Study: ‘Epidemic infectious disease’ could occur — “We cannot find other reasons except radiation” — Concern about strontium-90 & other radioactive materials besides cesium — “Potential direct relevance to humans”
•Japan Doctor: “Tokyo should no longer be inhabited” — Everyone here is a victim of Fukushima — People truly suffering — Bleeding under skin, urinary hemorrhaging — Children’s blood tests started changing last year — Time running short… up to physicians to save our citizens and future generations



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Raf on Aug 14th, 2014, 11:50am

on Aug 6th, 2014, 2:46pm, ZETAR wrote:
WHAT ABOUT THE BOO-BOO AT FUKU ~ WHITEWASHED ~ rolleyes

http://enenews.com/physician-trying-whitewash-fukushima-catastrophe-report-reveals-9000-people-will-die-cancers-number-higher-correct-data-actually-professor-could-call-brainwashing-infamous-lie-abuse-science-data-co

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Washington has been using that paint for decades, Zetar. Now you know the real story about why everything is white in DC.
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Post by ZETAR on Aug 14th, 2014, 5:53pm

HEY ~ HEY ~ HEY ~ RAF ~ wink

GLAD TO SEE YA POSTING MY FRIEND ~ YEP ~ THEY BOTH SEEM TO HAVE THE SAME INTERIOR DESIGNER grin

ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOUR INPUT!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 14th, 2014, 5:57pm

SYS,

YA THINK THE LOCALS ARE DOING THIS ~ OR HAS DISSENT BEEN TAMPED/STAMPED/REVAMPED?

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WELL DONE MATE!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 14th, 2014, 8:52pm

Thank you Zetar..Even Japans censoring law enacted by abe to gag citizens....the cooperation of certain friendly media..cannot ignore this ..certainly The elephant in the room has grown too big for the room..and it is ready to roll..and doesn't care who is trying to stop it at this point.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 17th, 2014, 6:40pm

http://fukushimaupdate.com/
Tepco Abandons Arevcos Decontamination system...now have to dismantle the radioctive machinery and plumbing find a place for it too.

If you ever wonder why nurse tech go behind a wall to shield even from low level xrays..

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-08/aga-fl081114.php Contact: Nancy Steinberg
nsteinberg@charter.net
541-961-3459
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IMAGE: This is a pale grass blue butterfly, one of the most common species of butterfly in Japan. Recent research has revealed major impacts on this species from the radiation leaks...
Click here for more information.



Following the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant meltdown, biological samples were obtained only after extensive delays, limiting the information that could be gained about the impacts of that historic disaster. Determined not to repeat the shortcomings of the Chernobyl studies, scientists began gathering biological information only a few months after the disastrous meltdown of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant in Japan in 2011. Results of these studies are now beginning to reveal serious biological effects of the Fukushima radiation on non-human organisms ranging from plants to butterflies to birds.

A series of articles summarizing these studies has now been published in the Journal of Heredity. These describe widespread impacts, ranging from population declines to genetic damage to responses by the repair mechanisms that help organisms cope with radiation exposure.

"A growing body of empirical results from studies of birds, monkeys, butterflies, and other insects suggests that some species have been significantly impacted by the radioactive releases related to the Fukushima disaster," stated Dr. Timothy Mousseau of the University of South Carolina, lead author of one of the studies.

Most importantly, these studies supply a baseline for future research on the effects of ionizing radiation exposure to the environment.

Common to all of the published studies is the hypothesis that chronic (low-dose) exposure to ionizing radiation results in genetic damage and increased mutation rates in reproductive and non-reproductive cells.

One of the studies (Hayashi et al. 2014) documented the effects of radiation on rice by exposing healthy seedlings to low-level gamma radiation at a contaminated site in Fukushima Prefecture. After three days, a number of effects were observed, including activation of genes involved in self-defense, ranging from DNA replication and repair to stress responses to cell death.

"The experimental design employed in this work will provide a new way to test how the entire rice plant genome responds to ionizing radiation under field conditions," explained Dr. Randeep Rakwal of the University of Tsukuba in Japan, one of the authors of the study.

Another team of researchers (Taira et al. 2014) examined the response of the pale grass blue butterfly, one of the most common butterfly species in Japan, to radiation exposure at the Fukushima site. They found size reduction, slowed growth, high mortality and morphological abnormality both at the Fukushima site and among laboratory-bred butterflies with parents collected from the contaminated site.
Multiple sources of exposure were included in the butterfly study. "Non-contaminated larvae fed leaves from contaminated host plants collected near the reactor showed high rates of abnormality and mortality,"
explained Dr. Joji Otaki of the University of the Ryukyus in Okinawa, Japan. Some of their results suggested the possible evolution of radiation resistance in Fukushima butterflies as well.

A review of genetic and ecological studies for a range of other species at both Chernobyl and Fukushima (Mousseau 2014) revealed significant consequences of radiation. Population censuses of birds, butterflies, and cicadas at Fukushima showed major declines attributable to radiation exposure. Morphological effects, such as aberrant feathers on barn swallows, were also observed. The authors suggest that long-term studies at Chernobyl could predict likely effects in the future at the Fukushima site.

All of these studies highlight the need for early and ongoing monitoring at sites of accidental radiation release. "Detailed analyses of genetic impacts to natural populations could provide the information needed to predict recovery times for wild communities at Fukushima as well as any sites of future nuclear accidents," Mousseau said. "There is an urgent need for greater investment in basic scientific research of the wild animals and plants of Fukushima."

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 21st, 2014, 12:44am

PROOF RADIATION IS KILLING THE PACIFIC cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eku4X1-NrkA

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Aug 29th, 2014, 5:24pm

We noted 2 days after the Japanese earthquake that radiation from Fukushima could end up on the West Coast of North America. And see this.

We started tracking the radioactive cesium released by Fukushima within weeks of the accident.

In fact, U.S. nuclear authorities were extremely worried about the west Coast getting hit by Fukushima radiation … but publicly said it was safe.

We reported that Fukushima radiation spread worldwide.

And we’ve documented for years that the failure to test the potentially high levels of radiation hitting North America is a scandal.

Sadly, we were right to be worried …

The Journal Environmental Science & Technology – published by the American Chemical Society – reported last year that airborne levels of radioactive cesium were raised by 100 to 1,000 times (what scientists describe as two to three “orders of magnitude“):

Before the FDNPP accident, average 137Cs levels were typically of 1 ?Bq m−3 in Central Europe and lower average values (<0.3 ?Bq m−3) were characteristic of northern, western and southern Europe.

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During the passage of contaminated air masses from Fukushima, airborne 137Cs levels were globally enhanced by 2 to 3 orders of magnitude.
Indeed, even hot particles and nuclear core fragments from Fukushima were found to have traveled all the way to Europe.

The French government radiation agency – IRSN – released a video of Fukushima cesium hitting the West Coast of North America. EneNews displays a screenshot from the IRSN video, and quantifies the extreme cesium spikes:

Cesium-137 levels in 2010: 0.000001 mBq/m³ of Cs-137 (blue writing)
Cesium-137 levels in Mar. 2011: 1 to 10 mBq/m³ in Western U.S. (orange plume)
Cs-137 levels increased 1,000,000 – 10,000,000 times after Fukushima

The Day Tokyo Got Blasted by Fukushima Radiation

On March 15, 2011, the winds shifted …

The Fukushima radiation which had been blowing out to sea suddenly turned and hit Tokyo:



The image is a screenshot we took from a video released by the French government radiation agency, IRSN.

As we’ve reported for over 3 years, Tokyo got nailed by radiation. For example:
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Radiation Levels In Some Parts of Tokyo Are Higher than In the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/radiation-expert-enormous-quantities-of.html
Tokyo Hit With Fukushima Radiation
Tokyo Soil – Blanketed With Fukushima Radiation – Would Be Considered “Radioactive Waste” In the United States
Radioactive “Dirt” Hits Tokyo
Over 20 Radioactive Hotspots Found in Tokyo … Despite Government and Media Attempt to Cover Up Spread of Radiation
Tokyo Almost As Irradiated As Fukushima
We knew what happened. Now we know when …

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 29th, 2014, 5:38pm

SYS,

WHODDA THUNK ~ WE MAY HAVE BEEN...WERE...>>> RIGHT!<<< cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Aug 30th, 2014, 05:54am

...We reported that Fukushima radiation spread worldwide.

And we’ve documented for years that the failure to test the potentially high levels of radiation hitting North America is a scandal.

Sadly, we were right to be worried



And yet the publicly accessible network of radiation counters along the west coast (and in many other places) showed, and still, shows, no abnormal increase in radiation levels.

Also note the use of the word 'potential' .

There is a great potential, indeed some would say a high probability, that a huge earthquake will devastate some of the west coast cities. But people still live there.

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Sep 9th, 2014, 3:17pm

RSOE EDIS
Event Report

HAZMAT in Kazakhstan on Tuesday, 02 September, 2014 at 11:09 (11:09 AM) UTC.

Updated: Thursday, 04 September, 2014 at 14:01 UTC

Description

Authorities in Kazakhstan are on high alert after a container holding the radioactive substance caesium-137 disappeared in the west of the country, police said on Tuesday. A police spokesman for the Mangistau region said the material - commonly used for military and medical purposes - appeared to have fallen off a vehicle that was transporting it. "The container with the radioactive isotope caesium-137 has not been found so far," police spokesman Azamat Sarsenbayev said, adding that authorities learned that it had gone missing last Wednesday. High exposure to caesium-137 - which has a half-life of 30 years - can result in severe burns or even death, and locals have been warned not to open the container if they find it. The security services, emergency response workers and the military have been involved in efforts to find the container, which weighs some 50-60 kilogrammes (110-130 pounds). The origin of the missing material was not revealed by authorities in Kazakhstan, which inherited nuclear warheads and a weapons test site when the Soviet Union collapsed.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=HZ-20140902-45119-KAZ&uid=15242
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Sep 17th, 2014, 11:40am

CLIFF-67 ~ THAK YOU SIR!

THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUESCES OF TECHNOLOGY WHICH EXCEEDS THE SCIENTIFIC ABILITY TO CONTAIN AND CONTROL ~ rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

RADIATION CONTINUES TO POUR INTO THE PACIFIC ~ IN LIEU OF THE COUNTLESS DISTRACTIONS ~ THIS CONTINUES AD-INFINITUM ~ THE ALARM FROM THE BIRD(S) IN THE CAVE ~ IS SILENT ~ R.I.P. ~ TICK TOCK ~ MUTATIONS RIGHT ~ AROUND THE BLOCK

http://enenews.com/record-high-strontium-90-ocean-water-every-location-destroyed-fukushima-reactors-levels-20-times-higher-reported-last-week-officials-contamination-highly-radioactive-debris-seeping-ground-flowin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by jm57 on Sep 17th, 2014, 7:25pm

Sadly,most nations of great financial objectives do NOT care.
Lobbyists will continue and abate the ability of those which see the TRUTH of the future.
Sadness beckons itself, upon those to hope,and never receive it, the world will eventually be,simply,consumed into it's own demise,regrettably.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Sep 28th, 2014, 08:35am

AND SO CASTLES MADE OF SAND ~ MELT INTO THE SEA ~ EVENTUALLY ~ cry

THE HOUSE OF CARDS ~ cool

http://enenews.com/fukushima-worker-all-sorts-troubles-going-inside-plant-officials-arent-disclosing-problems-public-im-concerned-safety-employees-wear-disguises-fear-retaliation-plant-control-people-be-worried-vi

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Sep 28th, 2014, 2:28pm

where are our heroes and heroins or are those just a sandwich and a drug..

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 11th, 2014, 05:56am

SYS,

I INDEED LIKED THAT CAT ~ CA ~ TEER...

BIOACCUMULATION AD INFINITUM ~ THIS WAS BROACHED SOMETIME AGO AT >>>CASEBOOK<<<shocked

http://enenews.com/professors-fukushima-emerged-global-threat-major-concerns-public-health-along-west-coast-canada-doctor-contamination-pacific-spurring-worldwide-attention-govt-failing-deal-looming-hazard-radioac

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 12th, 2014, 10:47am

I'm not sure what the intended point of this thread is.
Who exactly is being 'apathetic' which is going to cause our 'extinction'?
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 12th, 2014, 11:21am

DRWU,

MY ESTEEMED FRIEND ~ MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NOT MEANT FOR YOU ~ HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED ~ I FIND MY TIME TO OPINE ON UR FISHING EXPEDITION NOT FRUITFUL UNTIL SUCH TIME YOU HAVE >>>BRIEFED YOURSELF<<< ON THE SITUATION AT FUKUSHIMA ~ YOUR MENTAL BAND-AID NOR ANY SCIENCE AT THIS JUNCTURE...HAS A CLUE AS TO WHAT TO DO...LIKE A GNOSTIC...THEY JUZZZZ DON'T KNOW ~ RESPECTFULLY ~ DUE DILIGENCE I MIGHT ADD!!!

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EDIT FOR DRWU CREDIT:

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 12th, 2014, 7:38pm

on Oct 12th, 2014, 11:21am, ZETAR wrote:
DRWU,

MY ESTEEMED FRIEND ~ MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NOT MEANT FOR YOU ~ HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED ~ I FIND MY TIME TO OPINE ON UR FISHING EXPEDITION NOT FRUITFUL UNTIL SUCH TIME YOU HAVE >>>BRIEFED YOURSELF<<< ON THE SITUATION AT FUKUSHIMA ~ YOUR MENTAL BAND-AID NOR ANY SCIENCE AT THIS JUNCTURE...HAS A CLUE AS TO WHAT TO DO...LIKE A GNOSTIC...THEY JUZZZZ DON'T KNOW ~ RESPECTFULLY ~ DUE DILIGENCE I MIGHT ADD!!!

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I find your remarks condescending and unworthy of an intelligent person like yourself.
We are all aware of the nuclear accident and it's aftermath.
Now... if you care to try again to answer my question. Who specifically is being apathetic? It's an easy question. And it would be nice if just once you were able to post a reply without the graphic images.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 12th, 2014, 9:48pm

IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT I'M A VERY...VERY PATIENT INDIVIDUAL...MEMBER...MODERATOR...HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED AND YOUR STATMENT...

TO WIT:

" find your remarks condescending and unworthy of an intelligent person like yourself.
We are all aware of the nuclear accident and it's aftermath."

IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL AT THIS JUNCTURE TO POINT OUT ~ I'M NOT HERE FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT NOR YOUR PETTY HARRASSMENT ~ I MAKE SPECIFIC CHOICES AND FIND THIS QUITE SIMILAR TO YOUR DEMANDS ON OTHER MEMBERS WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO POST IN THEIR OWN WAY>>>NOT YOURS<<<...AND MAKE A DECISION NOT TO REPLY...

NOW I SHALL APPROACH THIS IN A LOGICAL AND CIVIL MANNER....OUT OF 13 SOME ODD PAGES OF POSTS AND DATA ~ WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ~ MY OPINION WILL NOT ALTER NOR CHANGE THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON (AD INFINITUM) ~ MOREOVER ~ IF AT THIS POINT I HAVE TO CONNECT THE DOTS IN SUCH RESPECT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND ~ THEN YOUR AGENDA IS MY PERSONAL OPINON (WHICH I HAVE CLEARLY SHARED) AND NOT THE SCIENCE WHICH IS BANKRUPT AT A SOLUTION TO THE AFOREMENTIONED

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WHY ASK ~ IF YOU DEEM MY REMARKS TO APPEAR CONDESCENDING AND UNWORTHY ~ OH I GET IT ~ YOU WANNA DANCE grin

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RESPECTFULLY...

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

SINCE DRWU I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND OR NOT WITH THIS SITUATION ~ IT IS INCUMBENT THAT YOU FULLY CONVEY THAT WHICH YOU FAIL TO GRASP AND AT SUCH TIME I WILL NOT CONDESCEND AND ATTEMPT TO ENLIGHTEN YOU SIR!!!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Oct 12th, 2014, 9:54pm

I believe Z has put it right to the front..ungarnished apathy..where people ..all of us are being desensitized ...don't care..Fukushima happens to be a very important topic..its an accident in slow motion..where if we don't feel effects ..well no ouch..no outrage..
it's a problem endemic to a host of issues..
we trust the empty suits we pay for to do and say the right thing transparently..and yet we catch them time after time in the opposite....and re vote them in office..
I think when Zetar stops reporting as well as others..then we lose..and become enablers to the problems and less in control of events..There is a piece on skinnerian behavoral modification..well worth the listen..and may also explain..why many feel the way they do..there are ways to combat this..



starting at 600 Sibil starts defining this problem of apathy..
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 12th, 2014, 10:03pm

TOUCHE' ~ wink

BAD THINGS HAPPEN WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO ABSOLUTELY >>>NOTHING<<< shocked

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NOW THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 12th, 2014, 10:24pm

INTERVENTION ON A GRAND COSMIC SCALE ~ AS WE (THE BEST OF THE BEST) HAVE FAILED THE TEST OF PLAYING WITH MATCHES...

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DO YOU KNOW HOW TO STOP THREE CHINA SYNDROMES (CRITICAL CORES) AND THAT TAP OF RADIATION WHICH CONTINUES TO SPEW AND SPEW ~ FROGS IN THE POT IS THE REFERENCE IS SEE...

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

THE SILENCE FROM THOSE ELECTED ~ AS TO THIS DEBACLE IS ASTONISHING ~ THEREFORE ~ CONTACTING ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR OTHER PRIORITIES SUCH AS (GLOBAL WARMING MORPHING TO CLIMATE CHANGE) AND NOT FUKUSHIMA ~ MIGHT BE A START...YA THINK? THE CANARIES IN THE OCEAN HAVE BEEN CHIRPING AND DYING...BUT IF ONE READ THE MANY POSTS IN THIS THREAD REFERENCING SAME ~ THIS SHOULD BE COMMON KNOWLEDGE...
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Double Nought Spy on Oct 12th, 2014, 11:15pm

Maybe this will help.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Oct 12th, 2014, 11:36pm

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I love that gif double.....

Maybe we should wait till Germany finishes closing all its plant and see what happens with its mix of wind and renewables...Every design always says safer than one before..yet when disaster happens..can we afford the disaster?
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 13th, 2014, 08:26am

on Oct 12th, 2014, 9:48pm, ZETAR wrote:
IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT I'M A VERY...VERY PATIENT INDIVIDUAL...MEMBER...MODERATOR...HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED AND YOUR STATMENT...

TO WIT:

" find your remarks condescending and unworthy of an intelligent person like yourself.
We are all aware of the nuclear accident and it's aftermath."

IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL AT THIS JUNCTURE TO POINT OUT ~ I'M NOT HERE FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT NOR YOUR PETTY HARRASSMENT ~ I MAKE SPECIFIC CHOICES AND FIND THIS QUITE SIMILAR TO YOUR DEMANDS ON OTHER MEMBERS WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO POST IN THEIR OWN WAY>>>NOT YOURS<<<...AND MAKE A DECISION NOT TO REPLY...

NOW I SHALL APPROACH THIS IN A LOGICAL AND CIVIL MANNER....OUT OF 13 SOME ODD PAGES OF POSTS AND DATA ~ WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ~ MY OPINION WILL NOT ALTER NOR CHANGE THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON (AD INFINITUM) ~ MOREOVER ~ IF AT THIS POINT I HAVE TO CONNECT THE DOTS IN SUCH RESPECT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND ~ THEN YOUR AGENDA IS MY PERSONAL OPINON (WHICH I HAVE CLEARLY SHARED) AND NOT THE SCIENCE WHICH IS BANKRUPT AT A SOLUTION TO THE AFOREMENTIONED

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WHY ASK ~ IF YOU DEEM MY REMARKS TO APPEAR CONDESCENDING AND UNWORTHY ~ OH I GET IT ~ YOU WANNA DANCE grin

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RESPECTFULLY...

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

SINCE DRWU I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND OR NOT WITH THIS SITUATION ~ IT IS INCUMBENT THAT YOU FULLY CONVEY THAT WHICH YOU FAIL TO GRASP AND AT SUCH TIME I WILL NOT CONDESCEND AND ATTEMPT TO ENLIGHTEN YOU SIR!!!


I have no desire to read 13 pages of...whatever....I was simply asking originally for your summary of what (or who) you specifically meant by being apathetic regards the past accident. People in general on earth or specifc govt members or what...?

It seems you are the one who wants to dance since twice I asked for your comment (an easy one I would think..) on this and all you gave was the runaround. Why is that ?
It seems you prefer to make funny posts with funny images...at least that's how it often looks when you reply and post things. Just an observation but surely you must be aware of this.

So back to the original question....are you merely generalizing about apathy on the planet to all things or are you taking to task specific people and govt members?

btw..I did go through some of the earlier posts and saw some of the names of Japanese officials, etc .....so then I assume this is primarily about their apathy ?

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 13th, 2014, 08:38am

For all those apathetic ones.....whoever they are....and those who don't like them as well.... Lake's words say it all.





(I think someone is affecting me and causing me to post images and other things....it must be contagious.... just like .....)

wink
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 13th, 2014, 09:10am

DRWU,

I RESPECT THAT YOU TOOK TIME TO READ "A FEW" POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT ~ AND ~ FURTHER YOUR "EMERSON, LAKE, AND PALMER" TASTE ~ LUCKY MAN ~ ONE OF MY FAVES ~ NONETHELESS ~ THERE IS A DISADVATANGE OF NOT FURTHERING YOUR QUEST BY CHERRY PICKING RESEARCH ~ THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM WHICH ~ AS IT STANDS ~ WILL PROCEDE INDEFINITELY!

I HAD A MOMENT TO PONDER THIS SITUATION (YOUR CONTINUED QUERY) ~ AND FIND THAT MY ATTEMPT TO CONVINCE ANYONE (YOU) ~ FOLLOWS SUIT OF THOSE TRYING TO CONVINCE OTHERS OF THE UFOLOGICAL PHENOMENA ~ LESS ONE EXCEPTION ~ THE EVIDENCE AND DATA IS THERE!!! ~ WITH FUKUSHIMA

WE POST ~ YOU DECIDE smiley

SO...

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I'M NOT SURE APPROACHING SUCH A TOPIC WITH A SILVER SPOON IN MOUTH IS PROPER PROTOCOL ~ NOT YOU OF COURSE SIR ~ BUT ~ ANYONE...IMHO...

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THE CHOICE IS YOURS!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Oct 13th, 2014, 12:44pm

on Oct 13th, 2014, 10:03am, surfrchic wrote:
If the people who are quite concerned with this issue are themselves unable to layout the steps needed to fix this terrible problem, then is the world's general lack of activity really "apathy"? Or is it a quiet acknowledgement of "inability", that no one can even imagine how to realistically fix things?



That alone should be cause for some concern..
turn to 919 on the video I posted..explaining the behavior of three sets of dogs..exposed to shocks..
the dogs that were given useless levers that did nothing..were put into another cage..and never even attempted to pull levers to end the shocks..they stayed laying down and took the shocks continually..unlike the others where levers did work..
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 13th, 2014, 1:33pm

on Oct 13th, 2014, 10:03am, surfrchic wrote:
If the people who are quite concerned with this issue are themselves unable to layout the steps needed to fix this terrible problem, then is the world's general lack of activity really "apathy"? Or is it a quiet acknowledgement of "inability", that no one can even imagine how to realistically fix things?



Thank you for posting that...it is exactly what I was implying with my question to Zetar but you said it better.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Oct 13th, 2014, 1:33pm

on Oct 13th, 2014, 1:16pm, surfrchic wrote:
All of that is sadly unfortunate, But Zetar has been posting 14 pages in complaint against what he perceives to be the world's apathy regarding Fukushima. And when I asked him directly of what steps he thinks should be taken to realistically fix the problem, he has no answer except asking for divine intervention.



That about sums it up.

grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Oct 13th, 2014, 4:15pm

It seems to me he has been posting events as they happen versus gripes with every post..so I think you are all exaggeratin a bit..and attempting to paint Z with
a wide brush He certainly did not claim anywhere he was an expert..just well informed.as best anyone can be under the blackout and legal decrees by Japan...and kept us current on many things I have little time because there are only 24 hours in a day..
which, the mainstream has not..
Is he biased..Prob..Am I biased sure...
But what I see is being done to push buttons..imo

Being that everyone has a similar keyboard and access to the net and public library his advice was well taken..
do your own research..as with anything else..on this forum..he has advised this more than once..in fact multiple occasions....Truth be told..
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 13th, 2014, 4:48pm

SYS,

YOU GOT IT RIGHT!!!

WE POST ~ YOU DECIDE ~ MY JOB IS NOT TO CONVINCE ~ MERELY PLANT THE SEED ~ BEYOND THAT ~ IT IS UP THE INDIVIDUAL TO DECIDE ~ INFORMED AND ARMED WITH THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND CONCLUSIONS ~ OR ~ NOT ~ THEN A CASE OF ~ WINGIN IT grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 13th, 2014, 7:06pm

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY ~ DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS ~ HOWEVER I FOUND A MOMENT TO REVIEW THE TEPID POST(S) CONCERNING THIS THREAD ~ I IGNORE THOSE WHOM THROUGH A REFUSAL TO FULLY BRIEF THEMSELVES OR A BLATANT LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE ~ shocked

MACHIO KAKU IS ONE OF THOSE (OF MANY) WHOM SAID FUKUSIMA IS OUT OF CONTROL...BUT IF ONE HAD READ OR DONE THEIR OWN RESEARCH >>>YOU<<< WOULD KNOW SUCH...

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MOD HAT ON ~ I WOULD THINK >>>LONG AND HARD<<< ABOUT THIS CONTINUED BADGERING AND HARASSMENT ~ I'LL GIVE THE ROPE TO THOSE WHOM CONTINUE SUCH AND ASSURE YOU ~ ACTION WILL BE TAKEN ~ NO MEMBER HAS THE RIGHT NOR PRIVILEDGE TO MAKE DEMANDS OF ANY MEMBER AND ASSUREDLY ANY MOD ~ wink

HERE'S THE ROPE ~ LET'S SEE HOW THOSE TUG ~ TUG AWAY!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sysconfig on Oct 13th, 2014, 7:33pm

When quizzed on Data snooping, the foreign secretary of the United Kingdom, Wiliam Hague, simply brushed off the fears of GCHQ gathering intelligence and said "law abiding citizens have nothing to fear." This may come as hugely unattractive to those that remember when governments put homosexuals in prison or segregate races. The law makers can easily say law abiding citzens have nothing to fear if they are making the laws.

Some have considered these acts as espionage, against the public will. In many ways it is like being told "if you truly have nothing to hide, then you shouldn';t object to wearing an ankle bracelet", as your government watch your every move. And many are unmoved by this concept, they may believe that the government is doing the right thing, but the truth is probably closer to the idea that they do not care or that they are illinformed. They do not care because they truly think its not directly affecting their lives.

Apathy is the biggest problem America will face politically. Apathy is caused by both the lack of education and a consumerism that aims to take advantage and perpetuate the Apathy.




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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 14th, 2014, 10:42am

THE JAPANESE GUBMINT ISSUES 'INUNDATION WARNINGS' FOR FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI AS SUPER TYPHOON IS EXPECTED TO HIT!

http://enenews.com/govt-issues-inundation-warning-fukushima-daiichi-years-strongest-storm-approaches-tepco-bracing-overflows-officials-warn-torrential-rains-landslides-ground-loosening-south-plant-danger-tornad

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WHEN IT RAINS ~ IT POURS...RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Oct 15th, 2014, 3:30pm

on Oct 14th, 2014, 10:42am, ZETAR wrote:
THE JAPANESE GUBMINT ISSUES 'INUNDATION WARNINGS' FOR FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI AS SUPER TYPHOON IS EXPECTED TO HIT!

http://enenews.com/govt-issues-inundation-warning-fukushima-daiichi-years-strongest-storm-approaches-tepco-bracing-overflows-officials-warn-torrential-rains-landslides-ground-loosening-south-plant-danger-tornad

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WHEN IT RAINS ~ IT POURS...RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE...

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RSOE EDIS
event report

Updated: Wednesday, 15 October, 2014 at 17:09 UTC
Description

The level of radioactive contamination detected in the underground water of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant has increased after torrential rain caused by a typhoon last week, the plant operator said Wednesday. The level of radioactive cesium water from a well located on the coast and close to the plant amounted to 251,000 becquerels per litre, the highest recorded so far, according to samples taken by Tepco Electric Power Company (TEPCO) Oct 8 and 9, the state television channel NHK reported Wednesday. The presence of the radioactive isotope is three times higher than what it was four days earlier, an increase that, according to the plant technicians, was due to excessive rainfall caused by Typhoon Phanfone Oct 6. Rainwater seeped into the sub-soil and mixed with the contaminated fluid coming from the damaged reactors. Plant managers are expected to take samples of groundwater in the area more often to analyse the evolution of the radiation, according to TEPCO. For the moment, additional measures have been ruled out since the depth and scope of the contaminated water leaks are unknown, and TEPCO already has in place several measures to control the problem, such as the pumping of groundwater or walls to retain underground water. Large amounts of contaminated water, much of which flows into the Pacific Ocean, are one of the major challenges that are still unresolved in the nuclear power plant damaged by the earthquake and tsunami in 2011. The accident at Fukushima, the world's worst since the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, led to thousands of residents from the surrounding area being evacuated and who have yet to return home. The emissions and discharges have also severely affected agriculture, livestock and fisheries.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20140416-43381-JPN&uid=15399
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 25th, 2014, 10:51am

CLIFF-67,

YOUR INPUT IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED!

FUKUSHIMA ~ THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING ~ AND WILL DO SO FOR DECADES ~ POSSIBLY CENTURIES!

http://enenews.com/gundersen-fukushima-will-bleed-ocean-centuries-entire-pacific-contaminated-tv-will-keep-coming-across-north-america-years-centuries-unprecedented-catastrophe-video

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 25th, 2014, 12:09pm

On the west coast, the mighty West coast, the counters sleep tonight.

http://www.radiationnetwork.com


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What has happened has happened. It is as simple as that.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by spacemaverick on Nov 11th, 2014, 12:34am

on Oct 15th, 2014, 3:30pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
RSOE EDIS
event report

Updated: Wednesday, 15 October, 2014 at 17:09 UTC
Description

The level of radioactive contamination detected in the underground water of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant has increased after torrential rain caused by a typhoon last week, the plant operator said Wednesday. The level of radioactive cesium water from a well located on the coast and close to the plant amounted to 251,000 becquerels per litre, the highest recorded so far, according to samples taken by Tepco Electric Power Company (TEPCO) Oct 8 and 9, the state television channel NHK reported Wednesday. The presence of the radioactive isotope is three times higher than what it was four days earlier, an increase that, according to the plant technicians, was due to excessive rainfall caused by Typhoon Phanfone Oct 6. Rainwater seeped into the sub-soil and mixed with the contaminated fluid coming from the damaged reactors. Plant managers are expected to take samples of groundwater in the area more often to analyse the evolution of the radiation, according to TEPCO. For the moment, additional measures have been ruled out since the depth and scope of the contaminated water leaks are unknown, and TEPCO already has in place several measures to control the problem, such as the pumping of groundwater or walls to retain underground water. Large amounts of contaminated water, much of which flows into the Pacific Ocean, are one of the major challenges that are still unresolved in the nuclear power plant damaged by the earthquake and tsunami in 2011. The accident at Fukushima, the world's worst since the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, led to thousands of residents from the surrounding area being evacuated and who have yet to return home. The emissions and discharges have also severely affected agriculture, livestock and fisheries.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20140416-43381-JPN&uid=15399


I have returned Cliff. No one else has continued (at least in other places I have been) regarding what is happening to our planet from places like Fukushima. Glad you steered me over here!
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Post by ZETAR on Nov 16th, 2014, 7:09pm

43 GROUPS REQUEST THE UNITED NATIONS TO QUIT LYING ABOUT FUKUSHIMA!

A Letter Hand-delivered to the UN and UNSCEAR, Requesting Revision of UNSCEAR Report And a New UN Mandate for UNSCEAR...

http://fukushimavoice-eng2.blogspot.jp/2014/11/a-letter-hand-delivered-to-un-and.html

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 23rd, 2014, 7:36pm

I JUST WATCHED A 60 MINUTES SEGMENT ON ~ CHERNOBYL ~ 30 YEARS POST FACTO ~ THE CONCLUSION ~ THE EFFECTS ~ CHERNOBYL IS FOREVER ~ NOT ONE METION OF FUKUSHIMA WHICH IS ONGOING TIMES THREE...OH THE HYPOCRISY!

CHERNOBYL
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The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster was a nuclear disaster at the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant on 11 March 2011, resulting in a meltdown of three of the plant's six nuclear reactors. The failure occurred when the plant was hit by a tsunami

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THE LOGIC OF CHERNOBYL ~ CHERNOBYL IS FOREVER ~ THE LOGIC AND ASSESSMENT OF FUKUSHIMA ~ FUKUSHIMA IS FOREVER...TRI-FECTA...

NOT ONE WORD WITH REFERENCE TO FUKUSHIMA...IN THE 60 MINUTES SEGMENT OF CHERNOBYL...I GUESS I SAID THAT...SURELY THAT POINT NEEDED TO BE MENTIONED ONCED AGAIN!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 28th, 2014, 09:04am

CDC Official: “Public health emergency in the US” from Fukushima radioactive material — Gov’t wanted to quarantine people contaminated with radiation, but had no authority — Emergency Operations Center activated for first time ever due to nuclear incident

YA THINK ~ shocked shocked shocked

http://enenews.com/cdc-official-public-health-emergency

HMMMMM...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 7th, 2014, 06:56am

COULDN'T RESIST AS THIS SEEMED SOOOOO APPROPRIATE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 11th, 2014, 07:06am

Nuclear Scientist: Fukushima an apocalyptic disaster that will haunt future generations; World now an experimental lab with humans as guinea pigs — Japan Gov’t Report: Fukushima is worse than 3/11 quake and tsunami

http://enenews.com/nuclear-scientist-fukushima-apocalyptic-disaster-will-haunt-future-generations-world-experimental-lab-humans-guinea-pigs-japan-govt-report-fukushima-worse-311-quake-tsunami

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 13th, 2015, 12:33pm

On the verge of the new year, scientists from the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans issued the first systematic report of measurements on the spread of radioactive seawater from Japan’s damaged Fukushima nuclear reactor to the coast of British Columbia. The bad news, if you want to call it that, is that Japanese-originated radioactivity has in fact reached detectable levels on Canada’s continental shelf. The menace from the Land of the Rising Sun is officially here—and is, for now, growing.

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Post by Sys_Config on Jan 13th, 2015, 3:11pm

Russians Suspected Of Drive By Shooting of Nuclear Power Plant

Holy Ukrainshima!

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-30/ukraine-hiding-huge-radiation-leak-largest-nuclear-power-plant-europe
Zaporizhia nuclear power plant is one of the four nuclear power plants in the country, which together supply a large part of Ukraine's energy needs. The Zaporizhia plant alone, Europe's largest, supplies at least one-fifth of the country’s power needs. It is the world’s fifth-largest nuclear power plant.
Recall that the press service of the Zaporizhzhya NPP and representatives of "Energoatom" in the afternoon on December 28 reported an emergency situation, noting that the background radiation in a sanitary zone around the plant remains normal. After that, the head of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine Dmytro Demchishin stated that repair of power will take a few days.

However, on the evening of December 28 the press service of Zaporizhzhya reported the completion of repair work and emergency unit is connected to the grid.

- December 28 2014 in 22 hours 35 minutes unit number 6 Zaporizhzhya after the fault is connected to the network. Being a set of power ... - said in a statement on the official website of the plant. There's also noted that the background radiation in the vicinity of the station corresponds to the natural.

However GSCHS summary for December 29, completely refuted this statement nuclear scientists. The document says that by 6 am Monday emergency sixth unit is not connected, the total capacity remained at the level of the previous day, and the radiation level in the vicinity of nuclear power plants and the storage of radioactive materials (SVYAP) increased.

- At 6 am on December 29 at the Zaporizhzhya NPP in five units (1,2,3,4,5) ... At 6 am on December 28 sixth unit is disconnected from the unified energy system ... The total capacity of 4278 MW nuclear power plant radiation background - 5.05 mSv / yr., SVYAP - 4.91 mSv / year. - Exceeding 16.8 times - said GSCHS Ukraine.

Recall first of background radiation above the threshold of 14 times in the area of ??Zaporozhye NPP evening of December 28 said the deputy chairman of the People's Council DNI Dennis Pushilin. He explained leak Ukrainian nuclear scientists attempt to install power rod blocks produced by the American company Westinghouse.

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As we concluded previously,

Of course, there is no way to actually know what is happening on the ground as the NPP is located close enough to the "fog of war", that its status, and updates thereof, could merely be part of the fog of war. That said, if there is an unspoken message here by Ukraine, which recently handed over its gold to unknown "Western" interests, and suddenly feels neglected by its western allies (as its central bank head is about to find out personally), it is targeted directly at the IMF: "hand over more loans, or the nuclear power plant gets it."
However, this appears more serious than simple false flags.

Curiously, all this takes place at a peculiar time: just as Ukraine announces it is replacing its nuclear fuel supplier from Russia to US conglomerate Westinghouse:

Ukraine on Tuesday sealed an additional nuclear fuel supply deal with US giant Westinghouse in order to ease its energy dependence on Russia.

Westinghouse Electric Company said it signed a deal in Brussels with Ukraine's Energoatom state nuclear power provider "to significantly increase fuel deliveries to Ukrainian nuclear power plants through 2020."

No figures were immediately available for the value of a deal which Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk had said would take place.

Nor were there details on the quantities of fuel or number of reactors involved. The two sides had earlier this year extended their existing cooperation agreement through 2020.

A top Energoatom official said this month that Kiev would like to purchase additional Westinghouse nuclear fuel for 13 of its reactors.

US-based Westinghouse currently supplies fuel for only one of Ukraine's 15 operating units -- the third reactor of the South Ukranian Nuclear Power Plant that is located 300 kilometres (185 miles) south of Kiev.

Ukranian media said Energoatom and the US firm had been cooperating on nuclear fuel supplies since 2000.

The former Soviet republic had previously relied on Russian nuclear fuel manufacturer TVEL.

What we have he'ah is proactive participation in Extinction. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 15th, 2015, 1:32pm

A group of people on Tuesday filed a second criminal complaint against a former nuclear safety official and eight others, arguing they failed to take necessary preventive measures in the Fukushima nuclear crisis.

A complaint filed in June 2012 named Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s then-chairman, Tsunehisa Katsumata, and others for causing the 2011 disaster at Tepco’s Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

The accused this time include Yoshinori Moriyama, a former official in charge of nuclear disaster countermeasures at the now-defunct Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, and others, including Tepco officials.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/01/13/national/crime-legal/group-files-fresh-complaint-over-fukushima-nuclear-disaster/#.VLgUSctAQ5t

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 21st, 2015, 7:42pm

It’s like a scene from a horror movie” along West Coast — “We’re seeing all sorts of mysterious goings-on” — “There is no food out there” — Scientists can’t figure out why there’s mass starvation of seabirds

http://enenews.com/tv-like-scene-horror-movie-along-west-coast-all-sorts-mysterious-goings-scientists-figure-mass-starvation-seabirds-really-serious-species-die-always-unsettling-video

THE HORROR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNUr__-VZeQ

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THE MORPH OF GLOBAL WARMING TO CLIMATE CHANGE ~ PALES IN COMPARISON TO AN IRRADIATED PLANET...RIFE WITH CHRONIC RADIOLOGICAL BIO-ACCUMULATION...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 22nd, 2015, 12:15pm

Hawaii coral “the worst scientists have ever seen” — Professor: “It’s like a ghost town… We would not typically see entire colonies bleached, ever”

http://enenews.com/tv-hawaii-coral-worst-scientists-professor-like-ghost-town-govt-map-maximum-alert-area-pacific-mirrors-fukushima-plume-model-2011-video

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 29th, 2015, 2:24pm

FIVE THINGS YOU'RE NOT BEING TOLD ABOUT THE FUKUSHIMA BLUES...

www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/28/5-things-youre-not-told-fukushima

SUSHI...

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SAKE...

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ANYONE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 13th, 2015, 11:05am

FOX San Diego: Sardines, crayfish “disappeared from Pacific Ocean… they’ve just vanished” — Marine mammals starving, struggling to survive on West Coast — Strandings in past 5 weeks already exceed what’s normally seen for an entire year — “Much larger” than anything on record

http://enenews.com/fox-sardines-crawfish-pretty-disappeared-pacific-ocean-theyve-vanished-marine-mammals-struggling-survive-strandings-2015-already-surpassed-whats-normally-entire-yearly-5-weeks-videos

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 17th, 2015, 10:31am

Magazine: ‘Fukushima catastrophe changed the world’; Worst nuclear accident in history, like two Chernobyls; ‘Poisoned entire landscapes for centuries’ — Study: Fukushima ‘overwhelms’ the peak radioactivity from nuclear bomb testing in ice core samples; ‘Affected the global environment’

http://enenews.com/magazine-fukushima-catastrophe-changed-world-worst-nuclear-accident-history-like-having-chernobyls-poisoned-entire-landscapes-centuries-study-fukushima-overwhelms-peak-radioactivity-atmospheric-bom

GLOBAL WARMING ~ CLIMATE CHANGE CIRCA 2015 BOSTON...

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FUKUSHIMA WARMING/CHANGE ` GOTTA RING TO IT...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 17th, 2015, 12:54pm

If you want to worry about nuclear fallout then maybe the question will soon become moot.

I imagine that Putin is looking at the pros and cons of starting WWIII. Which will, of course, be nuclear.

MAD is the word. Who blinks first ?

If Russia doesn't stop playing games in the Ukraine then a war between Russia and the NATO allies is almost inevitable.

The question for Putin is a simple one. Will Russia be better placed to survive the nuclear winter than the USA.

Those thousands of mile of water won't help the US this time.

What does the collective think ?


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 21st, 2015, 08:54am

ABC Tours Fukushima Plant: This could go on for centuries, and some say problems can never be fixed; “Tepco admits it doesn’t know extent of meltdowns” — Official: We don’t know ‘real situation’ of the molten fuel, “nobody has seen it”; We need help from the world

http://enenews.com/abc-tours-fukushima-work-plant-could-last-centuries-tepco-admits-doesnt-extent-meltdowns-official-dont-real-situation-melted-fuel-need-around-world-video

THE SAGA CONTINUES...

@ HAL ~ MAD ~ MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION ~ SEEMS AS IF THE LOGIC OF THIS ~ WELL ONE MUST HOPE COOLER HEADS WILL PREVAIL ~ VLAD IS INDEED RIDING THE CREST OF THE WAVE OF NATIONALISM ~ THERE UNQUESTIONABLY IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SEASONED LOGIC OF THE KGB AND GROUP ORGANISERS ~ ONE WOULD HATE FOR THIS TO...UNLANGLY...TO LONG... grin

ALTHOUGH A CROSS TOPIC...NEVERTHELESS ~ BOTH SUBJECTS ARE >>> RADIOACTIVE <<< wink

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 25th, 2015, 10:03pm

who'd a thunk it?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-25/tepco-admits-delaying-report-major-radiation-leak-pacific-ocean-10-months

TEPCO Admits Delaying Report Of Major Radiation Leak Into The Pacific Ocean For 10 Months
Tyler Durden's pictureSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 02/25/2015 22:00 -0500

NBC Nuclear Power SWIFT




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While faith in Japanese 'economics' is starting to falter (borne out by the split in the BoJ and endless macro data disappointments), trust in TEPCO and its governmental operators must be about to hit a new record low. Having promised and given up on the ice-wall strategy to stop radioactive water leaking into the ocean, Bloomberg reports TEPCO officials have admitted that it’s investigating the cause of a spike in radiation levels (23,000 becquerels/liter vs the legal limit of 90) in drainage water that it believes subsequently leaked into the Pacific ocean from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear power plant. The bigger problem, as NBC reports, TEPCO failed to report the leak for 10 months!

The radioactivity increase was 'reported' on Sunday, the company said in an e-mail yesterday, and as Bloomberg reports,

No workers were exposed and tests of radiation levels in sea water in the port adjacent to the plant showed no significant increase, the company said.

Ocean water tests will be increased to daily sampling from weekly as it investigates the leak, it added.

Rainwater is believed to have become contaminated through contact with radioactive substances and then flowed into drainage ditches, a spokesperson for the Tokyo-based company said today by phone, asking not to be named because of company policy. The company is unable to estimate the size of the radioactive water leak, the person said.

Tepco, as the company is known, detected 23,000 becquerels per liter of cesium 137, from rainwater accumulated on the roof of the No. 2 reactor building, the utility said yesterday in a statement. The legal limit for releasing cesium 137 is 90 becquerels per liter.

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Tepco has had repeated failures in stemming radioactive water leaks at the plant since it had three reactor meltdowns almost four years ago following an earthquake and tsunami.
But the fact that a massively radioactive leak occurred is not the worst of it.. As NBC News reports,

The operator of Japan's tsunami-stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant admitted it failed to report a radioactive rainwater leak from the facility for about 10 months.

The company noticed a spike in radiation levels in the plant's drainage system, particularly after rainfall, in April, according to a Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) official who spoke at a televised press conference on Tuesday.

"This was part of an ongoing investigation in which we discovered a water puddle with high levels of radiation on top of the Reactor No. 2 building, and because this also happens to be one of the sources for this drainage system, we decided to report everything all at once," the unnamed official said to explain why the findings weren't reported immediately.

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The governor of Fukushima Prefecture Masao Uchibori criticized TEPCO's withholding of information.

"It is extremely regrettable the swift release of information and the importance of that awareness — these basic things were not carried out," he said in comments carried by Nippon TV.
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Good luck at The Olympics... though we suspect it will be hard to run in a lead vest?
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 26th, 2015, 11:17am

JM57 ~ THOSE WHOM REFUSE TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS ~ HISTORY WILL SCRUTINIZE THEIR DEAFENING SILENCE AS COLLUSION...IMHO!

FOX L.A.: “Dead sea lions litter Malibu beaches, families shocked… WARNING: Graphic Images” — Babies being eaten by birds — So many 911 calls about dying animals it’s “bogging down system” — “Scientists say this year is worst in history” — Tells us “major changes are going on out in the ocean”

http://enenews.com/fox-dozens-dead-sea-lions-litter-la-beaches-families-shocked-many-calls-911-about-dying-animals-bogging-down-system-scientists-year-worst-history-devastating-scene-horrifying-video

FOR THINKERS ~ BIRDS KNAWING ON DEAD ~ RADIOACTIVE CORPSES ~ ENTER THE FOOD CHAIN AT VARIOUS LEVELS ~ AND SO THE CYCLE GOES...

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THE SHOCK BLOG OF THE MOMENT...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 9th, 2015, 1:13pm

National Geographic: Newly discovered mass mortality in sea creatures along California coast — Body parts falling off, animals ‘wasting away’ — Researchers fear sea star epidemic has spread...YA THINK?

http://enenews.com/natgeo-newly-discovered-mass-mortality-sea-creatures-along-california-coast-body-parts-falling-animals-wasting-away-researchers-fear-sea-star-epidemic-spreading

"BREAKING NEWS – Scientists detect Fukushima radiation on North American shores” — Coastal communities ‘concerned’ — Over 7 Bq/m3 of cesium from dock in Pacific Northwest — Professor: It indicates arrival of other radioactive substances — “Represents potential radiological health risk”

http://enenews.com/top-headline-fukushima-radiation-reached-north-american-shores-7-bqm3-cesium-detected-dock-pacific-northwest-professor-indicator-other-types-radioactive-substances-arrived-represents-potentia

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 9th, 2015, 10:50pm


New Hope For Fukushima On The Event Horizon

Fukushima Chiefs: The Technology Needed To Decommission 3 China-Syndromed Reactors Doesn’t Exist ... Maybe In 200 Years?


Preface: As you read this post, please keep in mind:

The reactors didn’t just suffer a melt down, or even a China syndrome type melt-through, but a series of melt OUTS. Scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are. Well actually, maybe they have found them … scattered all over kingdom come.

In response to the Fukushima crisis, Japan banned journalism, and Japan has once again gone fascist. If the heads of Fukushima are publicly telling mainstream media such as NHK that things are bad - and the government is letting them do it - you know things are really bad ...
We reported in 2012 that top nuclear experts say that the technology doesn’t yet even exist to clean up Fukushima.

Now, the head of the Fukushima nuclear plant and the head of decommissioning at Fukushima both say that the technology doesn’t exist to clean up Fukushima, and it may not exist for hundreds of years … if ever.

The Times of London reported last month:

The chief of the Fukushima nuclear power station has admitted that the technology needed to decommission three melted-down reactors does not exist, and he has no idea how it will be developed.

In a stark reminder of the challenge facing the Japanese authorities, Akira Ono conceded that the stated goal of decommissioning the plant by 2051 may be impossible without a giant technological leap. “There are so many uncertainties involved. We need to develop many, many technologies,” Mr. Ono said.
EneNews notes:

NHK ‘Nuclear Watch’ transcript, Mar 31, 2015 (emphasis added):
NHK: The people trying to decommission the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant have been hit by setback after setback… and faced accusations of misconduct. It’s lost them a lot of public trust… [Naohiro Masuda, president of Tepco’s decommissioning company] revealed he’s not sure if he can comply with the government set plan [for] removing the fuel…
Naohiro Masuda, president of Tepco’s Fukushima Daiichi Decommissioning Company: We have no idea about the debris. We don’t know its shape or strength. We have to remove it remotely from 30 meters above, but we don’t have that kind of technology, it simply doesn’t exist... We still don’t know whether it’s possible to fill the reactor containers with water. We’ve found some cracks and holes in the three damaged container vessels, but we don’t know if we found them all. If it turns out there are other holes, we might have to look for some other way to remove the debris.
NHK: Asked [about the gov’t target to begin by 2020], his answer was surprisingly candid.
Masuda: It’s a very big challenge. Honestly speaking, I cannot say it’s possible.
Dale Klein, Tepco Nuclear Reform Monitoring Committee chair, Mar 31, 2015 (at 24:00 in):
Richard Lloyd Parry, The Times: I was at the plant last week on the tour and we talked Mr. Ono, the boss. He made no bones about the fact that the technology… to remove the molten or semi-molten fuel doesn’t exist yet… I asked him how can you be sure that it will be, and he said, “Well, 200 years ago people would never have dreamed of bullet trains or mobile phones, but they exist.” That seems to be the scale of the leap… that’s going to be required. So there must be immense uncertainties around that… There must surely be a chance that it won’t work out, and that the eventual solution will be something like the Chernobyl solution… a sarcophagus of some kind sealing in the 3 plants…
Klein: This is something that has never been done… Units 1, 2, and 3… molten fuel penetrated the bottom of the vessel… We don’t know… how much and where it moved. ***
Akira Ono, chief of Fukushima Daiichi, Mar 28, 2015: “There are so many uncertainties… For removal of the debris, we don’t have accurate information… or any viable methodology… I believe human beings have the capability to develop technologies…
It may take 200 years.”

Watch: NHK ‘Nuclear Watch’ | Klein Press Conference
In related news, Fukushima radiation just arrived on the West Coast of North America.

We explained in 2012:

[Airborne] radiation from Japan’s nuclear accident has turned up in seaweed on the coasts of California, Washington and other parts of the West Coast of North America.

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A 1955 U.S. government report concluded that the ocean may not adequately dilute radiation from nuclear accidents.

MIT says that seawater which is itself radioactive may begin hitting the West Coast within 5 years.
And government experts measured "astounding" levels of radiative xenon in the U.S. from Fukushima.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 11th, 2015, 10:23pm

No sooner said than done..Natures Early Warning System going off
And Nobody (in government) Hears it.sad

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-11/mass-whale-beaching-re-ignites-quake-fears-among-japanese

Dead Dolphins Earthquake? No one says the F Word
Six days prior to Japan's devastating 2011 undersea earthquake that killed over 18,000 people, around 50 melon-headed whales - a species that is a member of the dolphin family - beached themselves on Japan’s beaches. Now, 4 years later, and despite a lack of scientific evidence linking the two events, many Japanese took to social media in fear as the mass beaching of over 150 melon-headed whales on Japan’s shores has fueled fears of a repeat of the monster quake, which unleashed a towering tsunami and triggered a nuclear disaster.


The mass beaching of over 150 melon-headed whales on Japan’s shores has fueled fears of a repeat of a seemingly unrelated event in the country — the devastating 2011 undersea earthquake that killed over 18,000 people.

Despite a lack of scientific evidence linking the two events, a flurry of online commentators have pointed to the appearance of around 50 melon-headed whales — a species that is a member of the dolphin family — on Japan’s beaches six days prior to the monster quake, which unleashed a towering tsunami and triggered a nuclear disaster.

The 2011 Japan earthquake is not the only instance of beached whales closely preceding a massive tremor.

More than 100 pilot whales died in a mass stranding on a remote New Zealand beach on Feb. 20, 2011, two days before a large quake struck the country’s second-largest city, Christchurch.
Local officials said a total of 149 dolphins were found stranded on the beach in Hokota in Ibaraki prefecture, according to RT. Some of the dolphins, mostly melon-headed whales or blackfish, were found alive but were extremely weak.

Videos from the scene showed rescuers trying to release the dolphins back into the ocean, but the tide washed the weak animals back onto the beach.

City authorities, the coastguard and a local aquarium were working to rescue the dolphins, measuring between two to three metres (78 to 118 inches) long. They will be transported off-shore and released to sea.

Scientists were on Saturday dissecting the bodies of the whales, 156 of which were found on two beaches on Japan’s Pacific coast a day earlier, but could not say what caused the beachings.

Scientists are meanwhile unclear as to why the marine animals strand themselves in large groups, with some speculating healthy whales beach themselves while trying to help sick or disorientated family members that are stranded. Others believe the topography of certain places somehow scrambles the whales’ sonar navigation, causing them to beach.

“We don’t see any immediate signs of diseases on their bodies, such as cancer. We want to figure out what killed these animals,” Tadasu Yamada, a senior researcher at the National Museum of Nature and Science, told public broadcaster NHK.



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Despite the lack of any clear link between the beachings and earthquakes — and comments from local officials downplaying such a connection — many took to social media to point to the link.

A commenter was more to the point

'Officials: “Such a bizarre thing” off California coast — “We’re seeing multiple aborted fetuses every day” — 100,000s of seabirds that nest in area now missing… “Huge, unprecedented die-off like we’ve never seen” — Many baby seals dying after mothers led them to a cliff edge… “Brutal to watch”
http://enenews.com/wildlife-official-bizarre-multiple-aborted-fetuses-ev...

'National Geographic: Newly discovered mass mortality in sea creatures along California coast — Body parts falling off, animals ‘wasting away’ — Researchers fear sea star epidemic has spread'
http://enenews.com/natgeo-newly-discovered-mass-mortality-sea-creatures-...

'13 baby gray whales and 55 dolphins found dead on West Coast — “Rash of dead humpback whales in Oregon” — “Corpses of sea lions, birds, sea turtles decomposing” — Mysterious deaths probed by gov’t — “Fear for whales encountering ‘radiation hot spots’…Volunteers trained about dangers of radiation”
http://enenews.com/13-baby-gray-whales-55-dolpins-found-dead-west-coast-...

It's coming, and it's coming hard.


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 12th, 2015, 8:46pm

Fukushima Stops Advanced Robot Dead in its Tracks!
Not even close!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-12/contained-robot-dies-3-hours-after-entering-fukushima-reactor
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We are sure this is nothing to worry about... and Japanese officials will re-iterate that everything is on track but when a snake-like robot sent to inspect a reactor containment vessel at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant dies three hours into the operation, one might wonder just how "contained" the radiation situations really is.

The crippled reactors are inaccessible to humans because of deadly levels of radiation, so using the two-foot-long robot was the first chance officials were able to examine the damage caused by highly radioactive nuclear-fuel debris.

The robot has been developed by the International Research Institute for Nuclear Decommissioning (IRID) and Hitachi-GE Nuclear Energy to investigate hard-to-access areas of the plant. It consists of three segments: the robot's main body and two compact crawlers. The robot can assume a long, straight shape for passing through narrow spaces, such as pipes. Alternatively, it can rotate its crawlers by 90 degrees in relation to its central body to assume a U-shape, with the crawlers providing better stability when travelling over flat surfaces.



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 14th, 2015, 11:19pm

when the teeniest microbes and dependent food chain at the bottom of the ocean collapses the entire food chain above would most likely also..
No one says the F word...they will recite the entire alphabet but never the F word as a cause..traveling hidden in lower case..whispered about only in private boardrooms..

Something Wicked This Way Comes..
A 1,000 Mile Stretch Of The Pacific Ocean Has Heated Up Several Degrees And Scientists Don’t Know Why
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-14/1000-mile-stretch-pacific-ocean-has-heated-several-degrees-and-scientists-don%E2%80%99t-know
According to two University of Washington scientific research papers that were recently released, a 1,000 mile stretch of the Pacific Ocean has warmed up by several degrees, and nobody seems to know why this is happening. This giant “blob” of warm water was first observed in late 2013, and it is playing havoc with our climate. And since this giant “blob” first showed up, fish and other sea creatures have been dying in absolutely massive numbers. So could there be a connection? And what is going to happen if the Pacific Ocean continues to warm up? Could we potentially be facing the greatest holocaust of sea life in the Pacific that anyone has ever observed? If so, what would that mean for the food chain and for our food supply?

For a large portion of the Pacific Ocean to suddenly start significantly heating up without any known explanation is a really big deal. The following information about this new research comes from the University of Washington…

“In the fall of 2013 and early 2014 we started to notice a big, almost circular mass of water that just didn’t cool off as much as it usually did, so by spring of 2014 it was warmer than we had ever seen it for that time of year,” said Nick Bond, a climate scientist at the UW-based Joint Institute for the Study of the Atmosphere and Ocean, a joint research center of the UW and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Bond coined the term “the blob” last June in his monthly newsletter as Washington’s state climatologist. He said the huge patch of water – 1,000 miles in each direction and 300 feet deep – had contributed to Washington’s mild 2014 winter and might signal a warmer summer.
It would be one thing if scientists knew why this was happening and had an explanation for it.

But they don’t.

In fact, according to the Washington Post, they are calling this something that is “totally new”…

Scientists have been astonished at the extent and especially the long-lasting nature of the warmth, with one NOAA researcher saying, “when you see something like this that’s totally new you have opportunities to learn things you were never expecting.”
The following map comes from the NOAA, and it shows what this giant “blob” looks like…

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According to CBS News, ocean temperatures inside this blob have risen anywhere from two to seven degrees Fahrenheit above normal…

This warm blob, which is about 2 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit (1 to 4 degrees Celsius) warmer than the usual temperature for this region, means the winter air that crosses over the Pacific Ocean wasn’t cooled as much as it normally would be. That, in turn, spelled warmer, dryer conditions for the West Coast.
Meanwhile, while this has been going on, scientists have also been noticing that sea creatures in the Pacific have been dying in record numbers.

In fact, last summer I wrote an article entitled “Why are massive numbers of sea creatures dying along the west coast right now?”

Since then, things have continued to get even worse.

For instance, it was recently reported that the number of sea lions washing up on Southern California beaches is at an all-time record high…

A record 2,250 sea lions, mostly pups, have washed up starving and stranded on Southern California beaches so far this year, a worsening phenomenon blamed on warming seas in the region that have disrupted the marine mammals’ food supply.

The latest tally, reported on Monday by the National Marine Fisheries Service, is 20 times the level of strandings averaged for the same three-month period over the past decade and twice the number documented in 2013, the previous worst winter season recorded for Southern California sea lions.
And of course fish are being deeply affected as well. Sardines have declined to their lowest level in six decades, and National Geographic says that a whole host of tiny fish species at the bottom of the food chain are dying off rapidly…

Since the 1950s, researchers every year have dropped nets 1,000 feet (300 meters) down to catalog marine life many miles off California. Most track commercially important species caught by the fishing industry. But J. Anthony Koslow tallies fish often credited with keeping marine systems functioning soundly—tiny midwater bristlemouths, the region’s most abundant marine species, as well as viperfish, hatchetfish, razor-mouthed dragonfish, and even minnow-like lampfish.

All are significant parts of the seafood buffet that supports life in the eastern Pacific, and all are declining dramatically with the vertical rise of low-oxygen water.

“If it was a 10 percent change, it wouldn’t have been worth noting, but they’ve declined by 63 percent,” says Koslow, of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography.
So if the bottom of the food chain is experiencing a catastrophic collapse, what is that going to mean for the rest of the food chain in the Pacific Ocean?

In turn, what is that going to mean for the seafood industry and for the price of seafood in our grocery stores?

Some really strange things are happening on the other side of the Pacific right now as well.

Over in Japan, the media is buzzing about the recent mass beaching of 150 melon-headed whales. A similar incident was observed just six days before the great earthquake and tsunami of 2011. The following comes from the Japan Times…

The mass beaching of over 150 melon-headed whales on Japan’s shores has fueled fears of a repeat of a seemingly unrelated event in the country — the devastating 2011 earthquake and tsunami that killed over 18,000 people.

Despite a lack of scientific evidence linking the two events, a flurry of online commentators have pointed to the appearance of around 50 melon-headed whales — a species that is a member of the dolphin family — on Japan’s beaches six days before the monster quake, which unleashed towering tsunami and triggered a nuclear disaster.
Very strange stuff.

For our entire lives, we have been able to take for granted that our oceans would always be stable and healthy.

But now it appears that things may be changing.

Average:


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 23rd, 2015, 7:58pm

Situation Update Apr 22nd 2014

RSOE EDIS - Emergency and Disaster Information Service

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20150222-47090-JPN&uid=16050
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 23rd, 2015, 8:13pm

CLIFF,

WELL DONE ~ MIGHT I EXPOUND UPON THAT wink

All the eight water transfer pumps at the Fukushima 1 nuclear power station have been shut down due to a power outage, leading to a leak of radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean, the plant's operator said. Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) reported a power outage on Tuesday, according to Kyodo news agency. It follows the line of the toxic leaks that were reported in February, when at one point around 100 tons of highly radioactive water leaked from one the plant's tanks. The February report prompted TEPCO to launch a pumping process at the site; this began just last Friday. The pumps were confirmed to be working Monday afternoon, but at 8:45am on Tuesday they were found stopped. The incident and the amount of water already leaked are being checked, according to the company. The pumps are used to transfer tainted water from a drainage channel to a channel that leads to an artificial bay in front of the station, enclosed by a fence. Earlier this year, TEPCO stated that last May's water samples from the drainage channel contained radioactive materials. The concentration exceeded the legal limit, which is estimated at just 30 becquerels of radioactive strontium-90 per liter. Overall, in the period between May 2011 and August 2013, according to a series of statements from the company, groundwater leaks ended up in as many as 20 trillion becquerels of cesium-137, 10 trillion becquerels of strontium-90 and 40 trillion becquerels of tritium reaching the sea. The Fukushima Daiichi plant tragedy with nuclear meltdown of three of the plant's six nuclear reactors was caused by an earthquake-triggered tsunami in March 2011. TEPCO's efforts to manage the release of the radioactive material have been slammed by the global community due to its suppression policy. This year the company was revealed to have been concealing reports of dangerously high radiation levels at the plant since September.

PANDORAS PROMISE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 25th, 2015, 8:58pm

From the Rabble Rousing Zerohedge Site


2000x Normal Radiation Found In Tokyo Playground, Officials Deny Any Link To Fukushima
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/25/2015 21:35 -0400

China Japan Meltdown

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-25/2000x-normal-radiation-found-tokyo-playground-officials-deny-any-link-fukushima

When a specially-designed robot dies within 3 hours of being exposed to Fukushima's radiation, it is clear something is not quite as propagandized in Japan; and today, as SCMP reports, extremely high levels of radiation have been discovered in a children's playground in Tokyo. While two hours of exposure to a child would be equivalent to the maximum does allowable in a year, Japanese officials say they do not think it is connected to the disaster at Fukushima. We are not sure whether that is supposed to reassure or terrorize locals?

Soil underneath a slide at the children's playground in the northwest of the Japanese capital showed radiation readings of up to 480 microsieverts per hour, the local administrative office said.



The radiation level is over 2,000 times that at which the national government requires soil cleaning in areas around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, where reactors melted down after the March 2011 tsunami.



Anyone directly exposed to this level would absorb in two hours the maximum dose of radiation Japan recommends in a year.



"Many children play in the park daily, so the ward office should explain the situation," Kyodo News quoted a 62-year-old local woman as saying.



...





The park was built in 2013, two years after the Fukushima nuclear crisis, a local official said, on what was previously a parking lot for Tokyo's sanitation department. Top soil at the lot was replaced before the land was turned into a park, said the Toshima official.



Many families in eastern Japan continue to survey the levels of radioactive contamination around their houses, distrustful of government assurances that most places had not been affected by the Fukushima nuclear meltdown.



Such efforts have led some people to discover radioactive materials that had been dumped in their neighbourhoods.

* * *
Coming days after a radioactive drone was discovered atop PM Abe's office building, one has to wonder just what the people are trying to tell everyone... that the government is suppressing so strictly.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 14th, 2015, 08:03am

A-TISKET ~ A-TASKET...A RADIOACTIVE BASKET... cry

Former Japan TV News Anchor: The mutations have begun in Fukushima; Birds found blind, unable to fly — Magazine: “Birds in tailspin 4 years after Fukushima… the proverbial canary in a coalmine” — Professor: Birds with mutations popping up all over in contaminated areas

CERTAINLY THIS TOPIC WAS BROACHED FIRST ~ A LA CASEBOOK CAFE'...

http://enenews.com/former-japan-tv-news-anchor-mutations-begun-fukushima-birds-found-fly-magazine-birds-tailspin-4-years-after-fukushima-proverbial-canary-coalmine-professor-partial-albinos-popping-all-place-conta

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AIN'T NO SUNSHINE SHE SHE'S GONE...

https://youtu.be/tIdIqbv7SPo

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 28th, 2015, 6:07pm

RSOE EDIS

Updated: Wednesday, 27 May, 2015 at 13:35 UTC
Description

Four years after disaster struck at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, a United Nations watchdog organization has highlighted remaining dangers at the plant, including the possibility of a hydrogen explosion, while criticizing its operators for their lack of preparedness. Despite the ongoing risks, Japan's ruling government plans to allow most former residents to return to the region in the near future. After a tsunami flooded the plant in 2011, thousands of gallons of water were used to cool the six nuclear reactors - three of which had suffered a meltdown. Now held in 1,307 containers at the plant, it appears the radioactive water is leaking, according to a report by the plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), given to Japan's Nuclear Regulatory Agency (NRA) on Friday. TEPCO inspected 278 of the water containers and found that at least 26 are leak. The leaks are likely caused by accumulating hydrogen and other gases, an issue that's raising alarm among government officials. "If the concentration level is high, a spark caused by static electricity could cause a container to [explode]," said a representative of the NRA. In response, TEPCO officials expressed their belief that the risk of an explosion was minimal. "We think the possibility of an occurrence of hydrogen explosion from these storage facilities is extremely low, since there is no fire origin, or anything that generates static electricity nearby," a company spokesperson told IBTimes UK. But a U.N. agency report calls into question TEPCO's ability to adequately judge risks. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), based out of Vienna, recently criticized the lack of safety precautions taken to prevent damage caused by earthquakes and tsunamis. According to the IAEA report, TEPCO and the Japanese government received ample warning that the facilities were vulnerable, and that existing safety precautions were inadequate to allow for very rare, but still possible tsunamis of extreme height and strength. The IAEA wrote: "The operators were not fully prepared for the multi-unit loss of power and the loss of cooling caused by the tsunami. Although TEPCO had developed severe accident management guidelines, they did not cover such an unlikely combination of events."

Against the objections of environmental experts and Japanese fishermen, the IAEA also said TEPCO may need to reconsider controlled dumping of the contaminated water into the ocean. ''TEPCO is advised to perform an assessment of the potential radiological impact to the population and the environment arising from the release of water containing tritium and any other residual radionuclides to the sea," IAEA scientists said earlier this month. But release of radiation and waste from Fukushima has caused worldwide concern over the safety of Japanese food products, even forcing the country to take South Korea to court over import restrictions. The 2011 meltdown forced the evacuation of Okuma, the community where the plant was located, as well as many other communities in the Fukushima region.

CONTINUE FURTHER READING HERE :

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20150222-47090-JPN&uid=16279
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 3rd, 2015, 08:01am

Censored US gov’t emails reveal proposed plan to test West Coast residents for Fukushima fallout — “Many cases of cancer may end up being attributed to exposures” — Doses could exceed EPA’s emergency levels — UC Berkeley Nuclear Dept.: “Prompt action should be taken”

http://enenews.com/govt-emails-reveal-proposed-plan-test-west-coast-residents-fukushima-radiation-many-cases-cancer-being-attributed-exposures-doses-could-exceed-epas-emergency-levels

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"Many cases of thyroid cancer, and other health problems, may end up being attributed to exposures from the Fukushima accident… on the U.S. west coast…"

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 3rd, 2015, 11:06am

ZETAR,

IT'S A NON STARTER.

I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THE RADIATION COUNTER SITE FOR MONTHS. THERE ARE NO OUT OF THE ORDINARY READINGS ON THE WEST COAST.

http://radiationnetwork.com/

IF ANYTHING, THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE US IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN PLACES THAN IT WAS A YEAR AGO,

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 3rd, 2015, 7:23pm

If I may,,,,

Hi Hal. smiley

The Radiation Network is a fairly good source, especially when other sources are ~unavailable~. I sincerely give those monitoring independently a kudos for their voluntary efforts ! I've been keeping up with that site and others for the past several years now. Notice the Alerts : wink
http://radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm

Another site, similar to that network, is :
http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Do you see a difference in the readings ?

Notice again on the radiation network :

Quote:
*Readings not Equalized means the Monitoring Stations are broadcasting the raw radiation count from their Geiger counters, without adjustment for different count rates existing between various Geiger counter designs. For instance, models built around a "Pancake" (see Map Legend) style of Geiger-Mueller tube typically have about a 3 times count rate over Standard tubed models, so their readings in CPM would be expected to average about 3 times higher, anyway


Notice also that various detectors only pick up certain types of radiation.
Also, consider the jet stream. These are only ground based.

Along with the exposure that was detected airborne on parts of the West coast after the incident at Fukushima (remember the half life of particles), one of my personal concerns at this recent point is that radiation counts on Western shores ( although minimal at this time yet detectable according to sources) will increase as time passes due to currents (Just a personal guess) . There have been some ongoing major leaks .
I'm also concerned for the people of Japan, and all other people who have been exposed to this incident and all others throughout the past. Much of those occurances could have been prevented. I hope that the NRC will enforce strict(er) regulations on all nuclear power plants, especially the older ones. Time will tell as to the effects to the ocean.
There are many variables,,,,,,,I'm not an expert on this,,,,,,



Here's another monitoring site,,,,,the EPA rolleyes
http://www2.epa.gov/radnet/near-real-time-and-laboratory-data-state

Just my dose centavos amigo undecided



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 3rd, 2015, 9:03pm

CLIFF,

NICE WORK...cool

TO WIT:

"Notice also that various detectors only pick up certain types of radiation.
Also, consider the jet stream. These are only ground based."

SUMPTIN THAT SHOULDN'T BE LOST IN THE SHUFFLE...

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US Gov’t: Melted fuel most likely burned through containment at Fukushima reactors; We’re concerned about failures underground… “Where did it leak out? How did it leak out? We don’t know” — Expert: Corium may have flowed into reactor buildings, burned through floor

http://enenews.com/govt-melted-fuel-burned-containment-fukushima-reactors-concerned-about-failures-underground-expert-molten-corium-deposited-reactor-building-burned-floor-photos-audio

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EDIT TO ADD:

WHICH WAY DID HE GO GEORGE...

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https://youtu.be/bs-Q0JmWjj0


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 4th, 2015, 06:15am

Cliff,

...Notice also that various detectors only pick up certain types of radiation.
Also, consider the jet stream. These are only ground based.
..

Surely the types that are a risk, or there would be no point in monitoring. Also while they are on the ground, so are we. So are we.

It doesn't really matter if the detectors are not all reading exactly the same. Suppose you and I each have a thermometer outside our homes to measure temperature. You tell me that it is 20 C today, I find mine also reads 20 C.
This doesn't mean that the temperature is the same . Unless we have calibrated both thermometers against the same standard.

But if my thermometer shows an increase of three degrees the next day, and so does yours, we an be fairly sure that we are both experiencing the same increase.

Likewise the radiation counters are to be treated as relative. It is the changes that matters.

I've read the caveats and can only suggest that some day there is a person who goes around all the sites with a standard radiation source of the correct type and logs all the reorder differences against it. If published this would allow us to adjust for error.

It's all very interesting. And I wish there were more in the UK. I'll have a look at that other site later.

It should be possible to do a fairly simple monitoring of the local situation by checking the rain water. I don't know what equipment would be needed, but it probably won't be too expensive. Maybe I'll look into that.

We had problems over here when the Russia (Chernobyl) reactor blew up. The cloud of contamination passed over us and made some Welsh lamb uneatable for years. radioactive grass.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 4th, 2015, 07:13am

HAL,

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TO WIT:

"It should be possible to do a fairly simple monitoring of the local situation by checking the rain water. I don't know what equipment would be needed, but it probably won't be too expensive. Maybe I'll look into that"

SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO MONITOR THE PACIFIC OCEAN FOR RADIATION SPIKES ALONG WITH LOSS OF SEA LIFE AS A BLATANT INDICATOR...THE BEACHING OF DEAD WHALES ~ SEA LIONS ~ ETC...WELL ~ REASONABLE MINDS SHOULD AT MINIMUM CONSIDER THE CAUSE AND EFFECT TO PONDER >>> AS FUKU FLUSHES <<< grin

"We had problems over here when the Russia (Chernobyl) reactor blew up. The cloud of contamination passed over us and made some Welsh lamb uneatable for years. radioactive grass."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 4th, 2015, 11:45am

To whom it may concern,

...Surely the types that are a risk, or there would be no point in monitoring. Also while they are on the ground, so are we. So are we. ..

That is a cut and paste from post 248 above.

Now , I know I am getting old, but I can't see me repeating myself in the manner highlighted.

In fact I don't recall writing anything about both us and the detectors being on the ground.

So, who ever doctored the post, please don't do it again.

I don't want to have to keep a separate record of everything I post just so I can compare them with people's quotes.

The other possibility is just too grizzly to contemplate.

Thanking you all in advance.

HAL
INT21 smiley
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GForce on Jun 4th, 2015, 1:59pm

on Jun 4th, 2015, 11:45am, INT21 wrote:
To whom it may concern,

...Surely the types that are a risk, or there would be no point in monitoring. Also while they are on the ground, so are we. So are we. ..

That is a cut and paste from post 248 above.

Now , I know I am getting old, but I can't see me repeating myself in the manner highlighted.

In fact I don't recall writing anything about both us and the detectors being on the ground.

So, who ever doctored the post, please don't do it again.

I don't want to have to keep a separate record of everything I post just so I can compare them with people's quotes.

The other possibility is just too grizzly to contemplate.

Thanking you all in advance.

HAL
INT21 smiley


Hal if a moderator edited or changed your post it would say edited by GForce, LGM, Purr etc. The post in question said edited by you. If you didn't change it then I'm not sure what happened. If I were you and you didn't edit it then you should change your password. Lone brought this to my attention and I did look at the post. None of us including BJ can change a post without our screen-name appearing as the editor.

Dan
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 4th, 2015, 2:22pm

I have been reflecting upon this. And feel I aught to publicly retract my suggestion that my post had been tampered with.

I honestly do not remember writing the bits that concerned me. But I must have done it. This is very worrying to me.

I am sorry.

HAL
INT21

Daisy, Daisy. Give
me your answer
do.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GForce on Jun 4th, 2015, 2:32pm

on Jun 4th, 2015, 2:22pm, INT21 wrote:
I have been reflecting upon this. And feel I aught to publicly retract my suggestion that my post had been tampered with.

I honestly do not remember writing the bits that concerned me. But I must have done it. This is very worrying to me.

I am sorry.

HAL
INT21

Daisy, Daisy. Give
me your answer
do.


Hal I often mean to erase something I wrote and somehow it gets left because I didn't go back and remove it entirely. I sometimes see something that doesn't make sense in someone else's post and wonder if they meant to delete it. I would forget it...I doubt you're losing your marbles. wink It's not like it doesn't happen a lot to those who post often. Dan
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 4th, 2015, 2:37pm

UH OH ~ CHECKIN DATA TAPES ARE WE... grin

HEY MAN ~ I'D A LEFT SOME BREAD CRUMBS FOR YA ~ LETTIN YA KNOW >> Z <<< HAD BEEN AROUND...NEVERTHELESS...I'M WITH G MAN ON ~ NOT A MOD!

ANYHOO...GOTTA BREAK THE TENSION ~ cool

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EDIT TO ADD:

TO WIT:

"just too grizzly"

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GOTTA PICK WIT YA ~ BUT NO ~ TWASN'T MY RODEO!

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 5th, 2015, 11:01pm

HAL,

TO WIT:

"I am sorry."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by LoneGunMan on Jun 6th, 2015, 11:01am

HAL,
You're dealing with a damned computer!! Blame it! I do!!! LOL


Lone
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 6th, 2015, 11:10am

Lone,

I tried. It just told me that computers are only as good as the programmer.

Kind of difficult to argue with that.

HAL
INT21 smiley
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 11th, 2015, 01:10am

on Jun 4th, 2015, 06:15am, INT21 wrote:
Cliff,

...Notice also that various detectors only pick up certain types of radiation.
Also, consider the jet stream. These are only ground based.
..

Surely the types that are a risk, or there would be no point in monitoring. Also while they are on the ground, so are we. So are we.

It doesn't really matter if the detectors are not all reading exactly the same. Suppose you and I each have a thermometer outside our homes to measure temperature. You tell me that it is 20 C today, I find mine also reads 20 C.
This doesn't mean that the temperature is the same . Unless we have calibrated both thermometers against the same standard.

But if my thermometer shows an increase of three degrees the next day, and so does yours, we an be fairly sure that we are both experiencing the same increase.

Likewise the radiation counters are to be treated as relative. It is the changes that matters.

I've read the caveats and can only suggest that some day there is a person who goes around all the sites with a standard radiation source of the correct type and logs all the reorder differences against it. If published this would allow us to adjust for error.

It's all very interesting. And I wish there were more in the UK. I'll have a look at that other site later.

It should be possible to do a fairly simple monitoring of the local situation by checking the rain water. I don't know what equipment would be needed, but it probably won't be too expensive. Maybe I'll look into that.

We had problems over here when the Russia (Chernobyl) reactor blew up. The cloud of contamination passed over us and made some Welsh lamb uneatable for years. radioactive grass.

HAL
INT21


Hal, thank you. You brought up some good points for me to ponder on.

Although this was a tragic event, it could have been much worse. There were heroes involved throughout this ordeal. One of the badly damaged reactors contained Mox fuel. I haven't heard whether or not they have finished removing those rods.
There are still containment issues also which is of concern.

Cliff



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 11th, 2015, 3:53pm

on Nov 11th, 2014, 12:34am, spacemaverick wrote:
I have returned Cliff. No one else has continued (at least in other places I have been) regarding what is happening to our planet from places like Fukushima. Glad you steered me over here!


Good to see you here my friend ! I'm sorry I missed this awhile back. I hope to hear from you soon. Your background and perspective on this is deeply appreciated !

Cliff

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 16th, 2015, 09:26am

US Gov’t Contractor: Fukushima so fragile it can turn globally catastrophic at any moment — Concern about impact to West Coast from another meltdown — Danger of something “far worse” than initial event — “Substantial risk to stability of Asia-Pacific” — National Lab: Fukushima already a global disaster

http://enenews.com/govt-contractor-fukushima-fragile-turn-globally-catastrophic-moment-concern-about-another-meltdown-affecting-west-coast-poses-substantial-risk-stability-asia-pacific-national-lab-fukushima-al

some scientists have asserted, the situation in Fukushima is so fragile that a number of things could go wrong at any moment to make the currently risky situation turn globally catastrophic. An earthquake or severe storm…

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 16th, 2015, 3:09pm

12:32 10 June 2015

Removal of spent fuel at Fukushima nuclear plant may be delayed

TOKYO, June 10, Kyodo


The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co. are planning to push back the start of removing fuel rods from spent fuel pools at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex by two to three years from a current schedule, government sources said Tuesday.


Under an envisioned revised road map for decommissioning the Nos. 1 to 4 reactors at the plant ravaged by the March 2011 massive earthquake and tsunami, work to begin removing the spent fuel from the No. 3 pool is expected to be delayed until fiscal 2017 from the first half of fiscal 2015, the sources said.


Removal work for the Nos. 1 and 2 pools, originally planned for fiscal 2017, is now expected to start in fiscal 2020

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2015/06/357546.html


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 19th, 2015, 12:53am


Many events (U.S. and abroad) concerning radiological incidences have been mentioned on this site. I do not normally post the majority of them since this thread is mainly about Fukushima. I'll slip this one in Z (hope you don't mind. smiley

RSOE EDIS

Environment Pollution in USA on Friday, 19 June, 2015 at 02:53 (02:53 AM) UTC.

Description
Radioactive material was detected in a monitoring well in April at an Exelon-owned nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania about 40 miles from Baltimore, according to nuclear regulators. Exelon, the parent company of Baltimore Gas and Electric Co. and the largest owner of nuclear power plants in the United States, notified the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission that it found dangerous levels of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, in a monitoring well at Peach Bottom Atomic Power Station on the Susquehanna River in Delta, Pa. The agency said the contamination posed no danger. "I would say there's no cause for concern for people who work at the plant or members of the public," said Neil Sheehan, a spokesman for the NRC. "It's not used by members of the public. We're talking about low levels" of contamination. Exelon found tritium at 37,700 picocuries per liter, higher than the 20,000 picocuries per liter drinking water limit set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Sheehan said regulators will examine ways to mitigate the contamination in a forthcoming inspection. It may be a concern in the future if the tritium ends up leaching into the Susquehanna, he said. Krista M. Connelly, a spokeswoman for the Peach Bottom power plant, said the plant has been monitoring the issue closely. "The affected groundwater is monitored, has not affected drinking water or the river, and results of more recent tests have shown tritium levels have returned to previous values," she said. "The groundwater stations or wells are specifically designed to allow for early detection and prompt mitigation." An advocacy group, Beyond Nuclear, criticized the NRC for its oversight of the leak, saying regulators have been monitoring and mitigating such leaks in a lax manner. The issue was highlighted in a report issued Thursday by the group called "Leak First, Fix Later: Uncontrolled and Unmonitored Radioactive Releases from Nuclear Power Plants."
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20150619-48735-USA


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 19th, 2015, 01:48am


One more for now Z. This from 2010.



Nuclear Regulatory Commission Ignores Its Own Regulations on Radioactive Leaks; Reactors Leaking for Decades Volunteer to Take Years More before Corrective Action


TAKOMA PARK, Md., April 19 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A new report released today by Beyond Nuclear – Leak First, Fix Later: Uncontrolled and Unmonitored Releases from Nuclear Power Plants – finds that the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) is ignoring its oversight and enforcement responsibilities at the nation's increasingly leaky, uninspected and unmaintained nuclear power plants. The report shows that despite agency efforts initiated in 1979 to prevent uncontrolled radioactive releases to groundwater, the NRC is capitulating to an industry decision to take almost three more years before announcing an action plan. One reactor operator has committed to complete proactive corrective actions by the end of 2010 to prevent recurring radioactive leaks, raising concern over why the rest of the industry needs so much more time.

"The NRC has relinquished its oversight of leaking reactors to an industry where profits have been more important than public health," said report author, Paul Gunter, director of the Reactor Oversight Project for Beyond Nuclear, a national organization based in Takoma Park, Maryland. "Instead of enforcing its regulations to prevent leaks, NRC is entrusting the nuclear industry with 'voluntarily' corrective actions that won't be announced for years to come."

The report found that tritium, a radioactive form of hydrogen, along with other radioactive isotopes, have been leaking for decades from U.S. reactors without preventive actions taken by industry or enforced by NRC. Tritium leaking from U.S. reactors has entered ground- and surface water threatening drinking water sources. Tritium is a known carcinogen that can also cause genetic damage and birth defects and presents a biological hazard for up to 120 years. The protective standard for tritium in drinking water varies widely from the EPA standard at 20,000 picocuries per liter to the State of California's more protective goal of 400 picocuries per liter.

"New water is not created, it is recycled," said Gunter. "Today's groundwater is tomorrow's drinking water."

The report was released one day before an NRC "workshop on groundwater at nuclear power plants" scheduled for 10 a.m.-4:30 p.m. at NRC headquarters in Rockville, MD and one week before an April 26 National Academy of Sciences public meeting that will provide details on a proposed new NRC-authorized cancer study around U.S. nuclear plants.

There have been 15 radioactive events involving leaks of tritium and other isotopes into groundwater from 13 different reactor sites since March 2009 alone. At least 102 reactor units are now documented to have leaked radioactivity into ground- and surface water from 1963 through February, 2009 with many reactor sites experiencing numerous and recurring uncontrolled releases.

"Leak First, Fix Later" points out that all nuclear power plants are required under NRC licenses to control and monitor the radioactive effluent including tritium that flows through the miles long tangle of buried pipe systems under each reactor site, and in some instances, through easements under public property. These buried pipes are largely inaccessible, uninspectable, deteriorating and increasingly leaking their radioactive contents – sometimes in the millions of gallons of uncontrolled radioactive releases – into ground- and surface water resources. The report highlights a series of several highly publicized radioactive leaks to groundwater in Illinois, New Jersey, Michigan, New York and Vermont.

"The NRC licensing agreements require reactor operators to control and monitor the radioactive water flowing in this spaghetti bowl of pipes buried under every nuclear power plant," said Gunter. "The problem is that NRC has lost control of its oversight and enforcement just as the industry has lost control of the radioactive leaks springing from miles of aging pipes," he said. "More disturbing, the agency is extending these reactor licenses by 20 years absent a management plan for this growing epidemic of radioactive leaks," he said.

Gunter referred to NRC design control requirements outlined in General Design Criteria 60 and 64 of the Code of Federal Regulation, Title 10, Chapter 50, Appendix A which state operators shall control and monitor the radioactive effluent in reactor systems as a part of their license conditions.

"The industry admits that they are not legally authorized to dump what basically constitutes their radioactive waste into groundwater and eventually people's backyards and drinking water," Gunter documents in the report.

Gunter points to the fact that the Chicago-based nuclear giant Exelon Nuclear has been providing bottled drinking water for the past four years to the community of Godley, Illinois, which neighbors the Braidwood nuclear power plant. Exelon took this action as a result of dozens of pipe leaks that spilled more than six million gallons of radioactive water contaminated with tritium that flowed off power plant site and soaked into groundwater along a four-and-a-half mile long buried pipe line.

"The NRC needs to take back its authority and prioritize the prevention of these radioactive leaks," said Gunter. "Right now, the NRC has acquiesced to industry's 'leak first, fix later' piecemeal approach that replaces sections of corroded pipe as they leak rather than replacing whole inaccessible systems," he said.

"The first and most immediate step is that NRC needs to order industry to replace inaccessible buried pipes with corrosion-resistant materials installed in above-grade vaults so that they can be monitored, maintained and contained if a leak should occur," says Gunter in one of the report's recommendations. "Leak First, Fix Later" further recommends ways to make the issue more publicly transparent and hold the industry more accountable for the protection of groundwater.

Gunter points out in the report that Exelon was caught with leaking buried pipes at its New Jersey Oyster Creek nuclear power plant only days after receiving a 20-year license extension from NRC in April 2009. On October 22, 2009, Exelon volunteered to make just such a commitment and replace all its buried pipes carrying radioactive water by the end of 2010. Advocates from the communities surrounding Oyster Creek are closely watching Exelon to see if it will honor its "voluntary" commitment on time and establish itself as an industry leader.

The Report and Executive Summary can be downloaded from the Beyond Nuclear website at http://www.beyondnuclear.org/storage/documents/LeakFirst_FixLater_BeyondNuclear_April182010_FINAL.pdf and http://beyondnuclear.squarespace.com/storage/documents/LeakFirstFixLater_ExecutiveSummary_April2010.pdf

The report provides an extensive list of and links to web-based documents pertaining to tritium and uncontrolled radioactive releases from nuclear power plants in the United States. A Beyond Nuclear fact sheet on tritium can be viewed at: http://www.beyondnuclear.org/storage/documents/Tritiumbasicinfofinal.pdf

Beyond Nuclear aims to educate and activate the public about the connections between nuclear power and nuclear weapons and the need to abandon both to safeguard our future. Beyond Nuclear advocates for an energy future that is sustainable, benign and democratic. The Beyond Nuclear team works with diverse partners and allies to provide the public, government officials, and the media with the critical information necessary to move humanity toward a world beyond nuclear.

Contact information: Beyond Nuclear, 6930 Carroll Avenue, Suite 400, Takoma Park, MD 20912 Tel: 301.270.2209 Fax: 301.270.4000 Email: info@beyondnuclear.org Web site: www.beyondnuclear.org


SOURCE Beyond Nuclear



http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nuclear-regulatory-commission-ignores-its-own-regulations-on-radioactive-leaks-reactors-leaking-for-decades-volunteer-to-take-years-more-before-corrective-action-91517119.html
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 19th, 2015, 07:03am

CLIFF,

SITUATIONAL AWARENESS ~ TO TEMPER COMPLACENCY

"Many events (U.S. and abroad) concerning radiological incidences" ~ "I'll slip this one in Z (hope you don't mind."

NOT AT ALL! ~ GOOD WORK

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 19th, 2015, 07:12am

MORNING ZETAR.

Health risks

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen, which allows it to readily bind to hydroxyl radicals, forming tritiated water (HTO), and to carbon atoms. Since tritium is a low energy beta emitter, it is not dangerous externally (its beta particles are unable to penetrate the skin),[20] but it is a radiation hazard when inhaled, ingested via food or water, or absorbed through the skin.[21][22][23][24] HTO has a short biological half-life in the human body of 7 to 14 days, which both reduces the total effects of single-incident ingestion and precludes long-term bioaccumulation of HTO from the environment.[23][25] Biological half life of tritiated water in human body, which is a measure of body water turn over, varies with season. Studies on biological half life of occupational radiation workers for free water tritium in the coastal region of Karnataka, India show that the biological half life in winter season is twice that of the summer season.[26]

According to the U.S. EPA, "a recently documented source of tritium in the environment is 'self-illuminating' exit signs that have been illegally disposed of in municipal landfills. Water, which seeps through the landfill, is contaminated with tritium from broken signs and can pass into water ways, carrying the tritium with it."[27]

Tritium has leaked from 48 of 65 nuclear sites in the US. In one case, leaking water contained 7.5 microcuries (0.28 MBq) of tritium per litre, which is 375 times the EPA limit for drinking water.[28]

The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission states that in normal operation in 2003, 56 pressurized water reactors released 40,600 curies (1.50 PBq) of tritium (maximum: 2,080; minimum: 0.1; average: 725) and 24 boiling water reactors released 665 curies (24.6 TBq) (maximum: 174; minimum: 0; average: 27.7), in liquid effluents.[


JUST PASSING THROUGH.

HAL
INT21

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 21st, 2015, 3:34pm

on Jun 4th, 2015, 06:15am, INT21 wrote:
Cliff,

...Notice also that various detectors only pick up certain types of radiation.
..

Surely the types that are a risk, or there would be no point in monitoring. Also while they are on the ground, so are we.



Hi Hal. grin May I ~ stir ~ a little for a sec. wink

Monitoring is a good thing, even if it is only picking up gamma (x-rays) using most geiger detectors.

The others I was referring to would be the alpha and beta rays. These consist of strontium, cesium, Iodone, etc. Personally Hal, I still, after all those years after Chernobyl, wouldn't eat the Welsh lamb.

How about Tokyo ? Godzilla anyone ? rolleyes

I'm curious how those involved in management (heroes imo) and cleanup directly at the plant are doing healthwise. They were/are using protective suits against alpha and beta particles, but not the gamma.
Heroes some may ask? :
Those who stayed behind placing themselves in harms way to contain the situation against advisory from their higher ups basically, in a nutshell, saved the Northern Hemisphere of this planet.
Remember, there was mox fuel which changed the entire scenario. The timeline was narrow and critical. That cannot be emphasized enough.
Ever heard of skyshine ? Not a good thing. As Michio Kaku sort of put it : We were hanging on by our fingernails. He couldn't have said it better.

Mistakes were made in the design of this facility and others. What was suppose to save money by cutting corners ended up to be this instead, not to mention those affected and displaced. Notice what TIME Magazine's Nancy Gibbs wrote in the aftermath of the quake. :

Quote:
“It only started as a natural disaster; the next waves were all man-made, as money fled to higher ground. Fear and uncertainty sheared $700 billion off the Toyko Stock Exchange in three days. Japan makes nearly a quarter of the world’s semiconductors and most of its gadgets. Sony suspended production at seven plants;
carmakers slowed output, fearful of gaps in the supply chain; power companies scheduled rolling blackouts. How can a global recovery take hold if the world’s third largest economy is out of business, even temporarily? Meanwhile, Switzerland announced a freeze on new nuclear plants, Germany shut down all its facilities built before 1980, and the U.S. Congress called for hearings on nuclear safety.

We sleep easy in the soft arms of clichés: hope for the best, prepare for the worst; risk varies inversely with knowledge; it’s a waste of time to think about the unthinkable. But Japan shook those soothing assumptions. No amount of planning, no skills or specs or spreadsheets, can stop a force that moves the planet.



http://time.com/3726563/japan-earthquake-anniversary/

HTO in my tea ? No thanks ! undecided

Please keep passing through Hal. I highly respect the way you think ! You cause me to think,,,and research.

Thank you amigo ! grin

Cliff

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by thelmadonna on Jun 21st, 2015, 4:21pm

I have been thinking outside the box so to say.

You may know I have Cadmium on my mind most of the time. Over the years I have read an awful lot about it.
I wondered what possible use it could be in the Fukishima incident. I am not clever enough to know its possibilities.
Here are a couple of links to help me explain where I am going with this.
Link one Link Two
I read once that cadmium rods were used in the initial testing of nuclear bombs, when withdrawn from the chamber, fission started and increasingly built until the rods were reinserted. Wouldnt it be possible to use this to end the reaction. Nowadays with cadmium being man-made, it can be in liquid form. I dont know if any of this is possible, it just keeps running over in my mind. rolleyes
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 21st, 2015, 8:50pm

Thank you Z !

I hope they have some way to release the expansion.....

6-18-2015
Feds Spent $19 Billion To Clean Up Nuke Site But It Could Still explode


Ethan Barton

A Fukushima-like explosion could result if a Department of Energy project to treat nuclear waste continues to fail – mostly due to government and contractor mismanagement – despite the $19 billion it has cost since 1989.

The Hanford Site in Washington State began operating in 1943 as part of the Manhattan Project to produce plutonium for the nation’s nuclear weapons program. It ultimately included nine reactors and generated 56 million gallons of radioactive waste by the time operations were closed in 1987.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/18/feds-spent-19-billion-to-clean-up-nuke-site-but-it-could-still-explode/#ixzz3dkcjElut

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/18/feds-spent-19-billion-to-clean-up-nuke-site-but-it-could-still-explode/

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 22nd, 2015, 05:58am

Cliff,

I don't know whether or not you know about this..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster

Zhores Medvedev is famous for exposing the Kyshtym nuclear disaster, which occurred at Mayak near Kyshtym, Ozyorsk, Chelyabinsk Oblast in the Urals in 1957. He published the book The Nuclear Disaster in the Urals in 1979 (W.W. Norton, New York).

I've read this book and it is an excellent description of how you can investigate using indirect methods.

Highly recommended to anyone who can get hold of a copy.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 22nd, 2015, 06:10am

Thelmadonna,

Cadnium is used to give corrosion protection to some nuts and bolts. That is what gives them a yellowish sheen.

Problem is that it is poisonous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_poisoning

Used in reactor control rods as a moderator it's purpose is to prevent the neutrons from causing a runaway reaction with uranium.
I don't think it can be used to mop up radio active particles.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 22nd, 2015, 06:22am

This may be of interest .

http://www.euronuclear.org/1-information/nucnet-news.htm

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by thelmadonna on Jun 22nd, 2015, 06:33am

on Jun 22nd, 2015, 06:10am, INT21 wrote:
Thelmadonna,

Cadnium is used to give corrosion protection to some nuts and bolts. That is what gives them a yellowish sheen.

Problem is that it is poisonous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_poisoning

Used in reactor control rods as a moderator it's purpose is to prevent the neutrons from causing a runaway reaction with uranium.
I don't think it can be used to mop up radio active particles.

HAL
INT21


Thank you HAL
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 22nd, 2015, 07:23am

HMMM...IMPRESSIVE SIR HAL grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 22nd, 2015, 2:21pm

on Jun 22nd, 2015, 05:58am, INT21 wrote:
Cliff,

I don't know whether or not you know about this..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster

Zhores Medvedev is famous for exposing the Kyshtym nuclear disaster, which occurred at Mayak near Kyshtym, Ozyorsk, Chelyabinsk Oblast in the Urals in 1957. He published the book The Nuclear Disaster in the Urals in 1979 (W.W. Norton, New York).

I've read this book and it is an excellent description of how you can investigate using indirect methods.

Highly recommended to anyone who can get hold of a copy.

HAL
INT21


I didn't know Hal, thx. That's very sad stuff.

Did you know about a similar situation here in the U.S.(Simi Valley California ) ?

Santa Susana Field Laboratories. -The world's 1st nuclear meltdown,,,over 458(x) three mile island.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Susana_Field_Laboratory
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The Hanford situation in Washington State could be about 2(x) Chernobyl if something isn't done.

More about that here from :

Scientific American:

Hanford Nuclear Waste Cleanup Plant May Be Too Dangerous
Safety issues make plans to clean up a mess left over from the construction of the U.S. nuclear arsenal uncertain

By Valerie Brown | May 9, 2013

The most toxic and voluminous nuclear waste in the U.S.—208 million liters —sits in decaying underground tanks at the Hanford Site (a nuclear reservation) in southeastern Washington State. It accumulated there from the middle of World War II, when the Manhattan Project invented the first nuclear weapon, to 1987, when the last reactor shut down. The federal government’s current attempt at a permanent solution for safely storing that waste for centuries—the Waste Treatment and Immobilization Plant here—has hit a major snag in the form of potential chain reactions, hydrogen explosions and leaks from metal corrosion. And the revelation last February that six more of the storage tanks are currently leaking has further ramped up the pressure for resolution.

After decades of research, experimentation and political inertia, the U.S. Department of Energy (DoE) started building the “Vit Plant” at Hanford in 2000. It’s intended to sequester the waste in stainless steel–encased glass logs, a process known as vitrification (hence “Vit”), so it cannot escape into the environment, barring natural disasters like earthquakes or catastrophic fires. But progress on the plant slowed to a crawl last August, when numerous interested parties acknowledged that the plant’s design might present serious safety risks. In response, then-Energy Secretary Steven Chu appointed an expert panel to find a way forward. Because 60 of the 177 underground tanks have already leaked and all are at increasing risk to do so, solving the problem is urgent.

Vitrification prep 101: Some tough homework

The plant’s construction, currently contracted by the DoE to Bechtel National, Inc., may be the most complicated engineering project underway in the U.S. But back in 2000 the DoE and Bechtel decided to save time and money by starting construction before crucial structures and processes had been designed and properly tested at a scale comparable to full operation. This wasn’t such a good idea, says Dirk Dunning, nuclear material specialist with the Oregon Department of Energy. “The worst possible time to save money is at the beginning. You’re better off to be very nearly complete on design before you begin construction.”

Continue Reading Here :
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hanford-nuclear-cleanup-problems/

It's leaking btw. rolleyes

More here from another article recently posted :
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/18/feds-spent-19-billion-to-clean-up-nuke-site-but-it-could-still-explode/#ixzz3dkcjElut

Sick Hanford Workers Speak out for 1st time (video)

http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/investigations/2014/04/09/sick-hanford-workers-speak-out-for-first-time/13413724/

Go back to work,,,,you're fine. rolleyes angry

About 20 billion dollars used, not much done. Somebody has some splainin to do. undecided









Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 22nd, 2015, 2:41pm

Cliff,

I'll read up on that Susana Field incident; thanks for the link.

Hanford do seem very lax in their approach to the problem.

The Urals explosion I referred to was also caused by material in the waste area. Not in the reactor.

It was a thermo-chemical event. Not a nuclear reaction. So I suppose it was a sort of dirty bomb effect.

I will openly admit I am pro nuclear. Preferably Thorium based. It is a very dangerous business, but by proper engineering and some sensible it can be workable.

Fukushima was tragic in that had just the pumping station been properly protected (and a back up station provided) then the flooding of the place wouldn't have been such a problem.
The whole thing evolved from the inability to cool the reactors.

HAL
INT21.

p.s. Haven't eaten Welsh lamb foryears.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 25th, 2015, 10:44pm

10 giant whales found dead in Pacific off US coast — Victims of ‘mysterious affliction’ — Mass die-off of walruses and seabirds reported nearby — Experts: “Something out of the ordinary is happening” — “Really perplexing… We’re at a loss… Maybe whales ran into a toxin”

http://enenews.com/10-endangered-whales-found-dead-pacific-coast-victims-mysterious-affliction-dozens-walrus-hundreds-seabirds-die-nearby-ordinary-happening-loss-whales-ran-toxin-audio

" Jun 19, 2015: Endangered whales are dying off in Alaska… at least nine fin whales have been found dead in the water in recent weeks… What’s more troubling is that the cause remains unknown, meaning that more of the whales could be at risk of meeting the same fate… Researchers are also investigating the death of some 25 walruses and an unusual number of seabirds… It’s not clear if the unexpected deaths are related.

Univ. of Alaska, Fairbanks, Jun 18, 2015: On May 23, [NOAA learned] that crew members on the Alaska Marine Highway System’s ferry MV Kennicott had photographed dead whales. During the next two weeks, boaters, fishermen and pilots reported floating dead whales in the area… The dead whales are now drifting along both sides of Kodiak Island… Fin whales, an endangered species, grow to 70 feet long.

AP, Jun 18, 2015: [M]arine mammal specialists speculate the animals might have eaten something toxic. UAF marine mammal specialist Kate Wynne said in a news release that it’s rare to see even one fin whale carcass every couple of years. A dead humpback whale also was found, but in a different location.

Alaska Dispatch News, Jun 18, 2015: At least nine fin whales have been found dead in recent weeks… About 25 walrus carcasses were found… an unexpected occurrence in an area where walrus tramplings are rare… In the same general area, carcasses of hundreds of seabirds and a dead whale were also found."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 30th, 2015, 9:31pm

Thorium MSR No Better Than Uranium Process


This article, number 28 in the series, discusses nuclear power via a thorium molten-salt reactor (MSR) process. (Note, this is also sometimes referred to as LFTR, for Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor) The thorium MSR is frequently trotted out by nuclear power advocates, whenever the numerous drawbacks to uranium fission reactors are mentioned. To this point in the TANP series, uranium fission, via PWR or BWR, has been the focus. Some critics of TANP have already stated that thorium solves all of those problems and

Thorium Molten Salt Reator process
source: Idaho National Lab
therefore should be vigorously pursued. Some of the critics have stated that Sowell obviously has never heard of thorium reactors. Quite the contrary, I am familiar with the process and have serious reservations about the numerous problems with thorium MSR.

It is interesting, though, that nuclear advocates must bring up the MSR process. If the uranium fission process was any good at all, there would be no need for research and development of any other type of process, such as MSR and fusion. Indeed, as already pointed out in TANP, uranium fission plants have barely captured 11 percent of world-wide electricity production after 50 years of heroic efforts. One would expect, if nuclear power were as great as the advocates claim, that nuclear plants would already supply 80 or 90 percent of all electric power in the world. Clearly, they do not because they are not at all great, they have enormous and insurmountable drawbacks in cost, safety, and toxic product legacy left for future generations. Once the thorium MSR process is discussed in this article, the next article will discuss yet a third hope for the nuclear advocates, in case fusion fizzles out and MSR melts away to nothingness. That next article will be on high-temperature gas reactors, the HTGR. As will be seen, HTGR also has serious drawbacks.

MORE HERE:

http://sowellslawblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/the-truth-about-nuclear-power-part-28.html

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 2nd, 2015, 11:48pm

This may be a solution to some of the future problems :

http://www.solarroadways.com/intro.shtml

Solar FREAKIN' Roadways undecided

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Jul 3rd, 2015, 4:43pm

+1000

Nice one cliff!

I wonder why the stop at light..why not merge the acoustics generated by passing traffic ..it could be embedded with less damage than what the solar cells themselves would get.
exploit the thermal differentials between night and day on the surfaces to generate electricity..


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 3rd, 2015, 5:14pm

on Jul 3rd, 2015, 4:43pm, SysConfig wrote:
+1000

Nice one cliff!

I wonder why the stop at light..why not merge the acoustics generated by passing traffic ..it could be embedded with less damage than what the solar cells themselves would get.
exploit the thermal differentials between night and day on the surfaces to generate electricity..



If used globally, one side of the planet would always have light. cool

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Jul 3rd, 2015, 5:19pm

on Jul 3rd, 2015, 5:14pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
If used globally, one side of the planet would always have light. cool


Bro ..lets patent this idea now..I think our mothership just arrived! grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 3rd, 2015, 5:26pm


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jul 7th, 2015, 1:39pm

Looking Inside Fukushima Prefecture

On May 22nd 2015 Hiromichi Ugaya, a photojournalist who is well-informed, insightful, and engaging, was interviewed about what he witnessed in the aftermath of one of the world’s most horrendous disasters.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/06/looking-inside-fukushima-prefecture/#.VZqWD3-4Zo1.gmail

Hiromichi Ugaya was born in Kyoto City, Japan in 1963. He is an accomplished photojournalist with experience in both Japan and the United States, receiving his bachelor’s degree at Kyoto National University and his master’s degree at Columbia University.
Chronicling the first four years of Fukushima, Hiromichi Ugaya composed a photo book about the tragedy as a personal countermeasure to widespread public apathy: Portrait of Fukushima: 2011-2015: Life After Meltdown, which is a treasure trove of over 200 unpublished photos, telling the story from the beginning to the present.

Regions of Fukushima persist ghostlike: “America Tonight journeyed to the affected areas, which are separated into zones of higher and lower radiation risk. In the hardest-hit area, known as the “exclusion zone,” the streets remain virtually empty, eerily silent and frozen in time at the moment residents fled the quaking earth and incoming sea. The garbage and debris that litter the area defy the kempt and pristine neighborhoods for which Japan is famous,” Michael Okwu, Inside Fukushima’s Ghost Towns, Aljazeera America, Jan.6, 2014.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jul 17th, 2015, 08:39am

Experts: Plutonium levels 10,000,000 times normal in water below Fukushima reactors — Plutonium hit record high off coast in 2014 — “Has been transported relatively long distances” – Every sample taken from rivers flowing into Pacific had Pu-239, Pu-240, Pu-241,and Pu-242 from plant

http://enenews.com/experts-plutonium-levels-10000000-times-normal-water-below-fukushima-reactors-plutonium-ocean-japan-hit-record-high-2014-pu-transported-relatively-long-distances-every-sample-rivers-flow-pacific

Tracing the dispersion of contaminated sediment with plutonium isotope measurements in coastal catchments of Fukushima Prefecture — The Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant (FDNPP) accident led to important releases of radionuclides into the environment, and trace levels of plutonium (Pu) were detected in northeastern Japan… In this study, we measured Pu isotopic ratios in recently deposited sediments along rivers draining the most contaminated part of the inland radioactive plume… Results showed that the entire range of measured Pu isotopes (i.e. 239Pu, 240Pu, 241Pu, and 242Pu) were detected in all samples, although in extremely low concentrations. The 241Pu/239Pu atom ratios measured in sediment deposits (0.0017 – 0.0884) were significantly higher than the corresponding values attributed to the global fallout (0.00113 – 0.00008 on average in the Northern Hemisphere between 31-71 N)… These results demonstrate that this radionuclide has been transported relatively long distances… and deposited in rivers representing a potential source of Pu to the ocean.

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TO BE IRRADIATED ~ OR NOT BE IRRADIATED ~ THAT IS THE QUESTION

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jul 25th, 2015, 1:51pm

PONDERED AND PREDICTED A LA CASEBOOK CAFE'

Gov’t Official: Chilling report from Pacific Ocean… “Silence on the seas” — “Quite literally, there isn’t any fish” — Japan Professor: Fukushima posing reproduction risk to marine life, ongoing concern over bio-accumulation of radioactive material

http://enenews.com/govt-official-chilling-report-pacific-ocean-silence-seas-very-very

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There is ongoing concern that some of the radioactive material may be bio-accumulating in fish and marine animals… [A]n enormous amount of radioactive substances were emitted into the environment… Some research demonstrates the existence of a potential ecological risk… particularly for reproduction. The knowledge about a long-term radiological risk to the ecosystem is still very limited… environmental monitoring and increased knowledge is a key that will allow us to evaluate the ecological impact… The 1996 Protocol to Amend the Vienna Convention on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage… covers some damage to the environment by including recovery for the costs of measures of reinstatement of impaired environment, as well as for loss of income derived from an economic interest in any use or enjoyment of the environment.

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The 1996 Protocol to Amend the Vienna Convention on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage >>> covers some damage to the environment by including recovery for the costs of measures of reinstatement of impaired environment, as well as for loss of income derived from an economic interest in any use or enjoyment of the environment <<< JOB SECURITY FOR LEGAL EAGLES...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 14th, 2015, 9:42pm

Giant whales found dead up & down Pacific NW coast, scientists ‘baffled’ over surge — 25+ carcasses reported in past month — Gov’t: “Troubling… Definitely a pulse of deaths” — Experts: “Alarming spike… Exceptionally rare to see a dead humpback” — Concerns about unidentified pathogen

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http://enenews.com/giant-whales-found-dead-pacific-northwest-scientists-baffled-25-carcasses-reported-month-west-coast-govt-troubling-definitely-pulse-deaths-expert-exceptionally-rare-dead-humpback-concerns

CBC News, Aug 12, 2015: Last Friday Spirit Bear Adventures wildlife guide Philip Charles got a call that a humpback whale was drifting… He set off with a team from Pacific Wild Conservation to Nowish Bay where they found the massive animal washed up dead… “It is exceptionally rare to see a dead humpback whale, especially in this relatively intact state,” said Charles…

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THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 31st, 2015, 8:16pm

Fukushima: The End of Mankind?

I'D SAY THE ANALYSIS IS GETTING >>> REAL <<< shocked

AN EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT

http://www.veteranstruthnetwork.com/index.php/component/k2/item/386-fukushima-the-end-of-mankind

"It has been affirmed that the magnitude of the disaster we have in Japan poses such a grave threat that, over time, the loss of the food chain--and in fact, the very plankton that generates the bulk of the breathable oxygen we depend on, and the long term destruction to mitochondrial DNA in many living species, over a few decades--poses such a grave threat to all living things that not only humans but much of the animal kingdom face ‘extinction’ due to these changes. When asked by a fellow co-worked about the gravity of the Fukushima radiation problem, I told her, “Many of us believe this will in time bear itself out to be an ELE or ‘extinction level event’ and that as the destruction of the Pacific spreads, magnification of the effects will make it very apparent that something is horribly wrong.” She asked, “So how much time?”, to which I answered, “Perhaps twenty years--maybe a bit longer, given the rapidity of the death of the Pacific and many species in it.”

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Sep 20th, 2015, 1:47pm

cry

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IT was the silence that made this voyage different from all of those before it.

Not the absence of sound, exactly.

The wind still whipped the sails and whistled in the rigging. The waves still sloshed against the fibreglass hull.

And there were plenty of other noises: muffled thuds and bumps and scrapes as the boat knocked against pieces of debris.

What was missing was the cries of the seabirds which, on all previous similar voyages, had surrounded the boat.

>>> The birds were missing because the fish were missing. <<<

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 4th, 2015, 07:44am

Fukushima: the World’s Never Seen Anything Like This

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The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant No. 2 nuclear reactor fuel is missing from the core containment vessel. (Source: Up to 100% of No. 2 Reactor Fuel May Have Melted, NHK World News, Sept. 25, 2015.)

Where did it go? Nobody knows.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/30/the-worlds-never-seen-anything-like-this/

Not only that but the “learning curve” for a nuclear meltdown is as fresh as the event itself because “the world has never seen anything like this,” never.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 4th, 2015, 9:25pm

FOR THE PRESENT REALITY OF >>> BLIND FAITH <<< cool

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https://youtu.be/6jlLBs6YawM

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Oct 6th, 2015, 09:56am

Meanwhile, back in Japan.......



Chernobyl: At site of world's worst nuclear disaster, the animals have returned

Date: October 5, 2015


Source: Cell Press


Summary: In 1986, after a fire and explosion at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant released radioactive particles into the air, thousands of people left the area, never to return. Now, researchers have found that the Chernobyl site looks less like a disaster zone and more like a nature preserve, teeming with elk, roe deer, red deer, wild boar, and wolves.


Read more:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151005132553.htm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 6th, 2015, 10:41am

SWAMPRAT,

"These results demonstrate for the first time that, regardless of potential radiation effects on individual animals, the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone supports an abundant mammal community after nearly three decades of chronic radiation exposure," the researchers conclude. They note that these increases came at a time when elk and wild boar populations were declining in other parts of the former Soviet Union"

NICE FIND ~ FOR A SINGLE EVENT ~ THREE DECADES DOWN THE ROAD ~ SHOWS PROMISING SIGNS OF ADAPTION...

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE WITH FUKUSHIMA ~ IT IS AN EVENT CONTINUUM (SINCE 2011) FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME!!!

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Oct 10th, 2015, 03:05am

Which brings up a question. How many meltdowns can the inhabitants of planet earth survive ?
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 10th, 2015, 04:41am

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"Which brings up a question. How many meltdowns can the inhabitants of planet earth survive ?"

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Oct 13th, 2015, 7:06pm

Great article at Zero
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-13/fukushima-wasteland-terrifying-drone-footage-japans-abandoned-nuclear-exclusion-zone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=q4oxyoXr2a0

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 24th, 2015, 8:55pm

JM57,

TO WIT:

"Somebody here @ UCB has finally noticed what is going on in the Pacific Ocean!!!?"

WE'VE SPLASHED THAT AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES...grin

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AND WE TOUCHED ON THIS AS WELL...

"The Department of Health and Human Services has ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide, the compound that protects the body from radioactive poisoning in the aftermath of severe nuclear accidents, to be delivered before the beginning of February."

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"According to a solicitation posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website, the DHHS asks contractors to supply, “potassium iodide tablet, 65mg, unit dose package of 20s; 700,000 packages (of 20s),” a total of 14 million tablets. The packages must be delivered on or before February 1, 2014."

JM57...

TO WIT:

"I've friends in Oregon,Washington,Southern Cali,
All of them have been warned of HIGH radiation levels in ALL sealife off the Western Coast.
So,with this NOT being presented on MSM"

CERTAINLY A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE!

http://www.infowars.com/us-government-orders-14-million-doses-of-potassium-iodide/

ONE SHOULD ASK IF THE ETHICS OF JOURNALISM ARE BEING FOLLOWED ~ cool

Journalism ethics and standards comprise principles of ethics and of good practice as applicable to the specific challenges faced by journalists. Historically and currently, this subset of media ethics is widely known to journalists as their professional "code of ethics" or the "canons of journalism".[1] The basic codes and canons commonly appear in statements drafted by both professional journalism associations and individual print, broadcast, and online news organizations.
As with other ethical codes, there is a perennial concern that the standards of journalism are being ignored. One of the most controversial issues in modern reporting is media bias, particularly on political issues, but also with regard to cultural and other issues. Sensationalism is also a common complaint. Minor factual errors are also extremely common, as almost anyone who is familiar with the subject of a particular report will quickly realize.

There are also some wider concerns, as the media continue to change, for example that the brevity of news reports and use of soundbites has reduced fidelity to the truth, and may contribute to a lack of needed context for public understanding. From outside the profession, the rise of news management contributes to the real possibility that news media may be deliberately manipulated. Selective reporting (spiking, double standards) are very commonly alleged against newspapers, and by their nature are forms of bias not easy to establish, or guard against.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 26th, 2015, 10:42am

IF ONE MAY BE IN DENIAL ~ OR ESSENTIALLY ~ BLATANTLY BEING LIED TO ~ OTHERS REALIZE THE CATACLYSMIC DISASTER ASSOCIATED WITH FUKUSHIMA...

“The Pacific Is In Terminal Decline. The Fukushima Legacy Is Terrifying!”

http://www.zengardner.com/pacific-terminal-decline-fukushima-legacy-terrifying/

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@ HAL

"But people on here were saying that the west coast was about to become irradiated many months ago. It didn't happen. The monitoring stations didn't show any change. People in Colorado still receive more radiation that those on the west coast. Yet no one is being told not to go to Colorado. And people still surf the waves off California.

I want to see proper scientific reports on marine life in the effected areas that is from credible organisations.

I eat shellfish, prawns to be exact. And I want to be assured that these come from safe waters. It is not in the interest of any countries fisheries to sell locally (or worst still, export) contaminated shellfish."

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"Just give us verifiable facts."

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@ JM57

"All of them have been warned of HIGH radiation levels in ALL sealife off the Western Coast.
So,with this NOT being presented on MSM"

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WITHOUT GOING INTO THE SPECIFICS OF VESTED INTERESTS OF >>> MSM <<< THEY FIGURE...

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WE AT CASEBOOK THINK OTHERWISE!


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 26th, 2015, 7:26pm

jm57.

...BTW,INT21,Do your own research.

But I do. I don't recall asking you to do any research for me.


One must 'ask' the right question to receive the the answer one seeks.
Logic,It's a computer thing,heh heh!.
.

You would not recognise logic if it walked up and kicked you in the butt.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 26th, 2015, 7:35pm

In 'Canada to yank maple syrup off Syrian pancakes '

You wrote..

...How about posting a "source"..
Would be interesting otherwise.
Perhaps 'others' would like to share info.

Now here is a question.

Why don't you do your own research ?

HAL
INT21

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Oct 26th, 2015, 7:53pm

What constitutes one's own research?

We see that often on the web and often it comes down to finding sources, opinions and other materials that agree with ones views - confirmation bias and anecdotal evidence? Ideally one probably should be doing their own experiments, collecting data, properly analyzing it, etc. but unfortunately everyone is not capable of that and it's re-inventing the wheel in many cases. Hence we have to look to others to do a lot of the grunt work and rely on their conclusions. Is that research?

Perhaps best left to a separate new topic.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 27th, 2015, 07:05am

jm57,

You appear to be mistaking a general observation for a specific request aimed at yourself.

My point was that all we are getting are stories, many of which lack foundation. Much of it is hearsay.

I was referring to the general lack of specific reports available in the general media.
You must agree that papers published in some erudite journal such as Nature will not be seen by the vast majority of people. And it is the vast majority who need to be made aware of any real problem, not a few scientists or academics.

You wrote in 'stuff and nonsense'...

..I've friends in Oregon,Washington,Southern Cali,
All of them have been warned of HIGH radiation levels in ALL sealife off the Western Coast
.
So,with this NOT being presented on MSM,..

I do not know who the friends you refer to are. So it will be rather difficult to contact them and seek conformation of you claims.

In such a situation I see no problem with asking you to explain where they got there information. Who warned them.
If it was via a searchable news source then I will gladly carry out further searching.

So why don't you stop trying to be obstructive and just play along with me on this one ?

Having said that, a quick look at your last posts would indicate that cynicism and snide remarks seem to be your modus operandi.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 27th, 2015, 07:22am

Ed,

... Hence we have to look to others to do a lot of the grunt work and rely on their conclusions. Is that research?..

It is indeed.

In fact it is the way that most research is carried out.

Someone does an experiment or comes up with a theory and the rest study it and offer suggestions.

Imagine having to build your own collider just to be able to study nuclear physics.

And yes, maybe food for a new thread.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Oct 27th, 2015, 8:24pm

on Oct 27th, 2015, 07:22am, INT21 wrote:
And yes, maybe food for a new thread.

HAL
INT21

New thread started so as not to pollute or contaminate this one. grin

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=memberblogs&action=display&num=1445994656&start=0#1445995268


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by jm57 on Oct 27th, 2015, 10:58pm

Contamination has already been done.








Too many derogatory remarks and attempts @ ...
Well,Yuo'all get the gist.
Good bye.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 17th, 2015, 12:26pm

kiss

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Scientists: Earth Endangered by New Strain of Fact-Resistant Humans

"MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report) – Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are threatening the ability of Earth to sustain life, a sobering new study reports."

"The research, conducted by the University of Minnesota, identifies a virulent strain of humans who are virtually immune to any form of verifiable knowledge, leaving scientists at a loss as to how to combat them."

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endangered-by-new-strain-of-fact-resistant-humans

“These humans appear to have all the faculties necessary to receive and process information,” Davis Logsdon, one of the scientists who contributed to the study, said. “And yet, somehow, they have developed defenses that, for all intents and purposes, have rendered those faculties totally inactive.”

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"While reaffirming the gloomy assessments of the study, Logsdon held out hope that the threat of fact-resistant humans could be mitigated in the future. “Our research is very preliminary, but it’s possible that they will become more receptive to facts once they are in an environment without food, water, or oxygen,” he said."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 28th, 2015, 09:54am

Russia offers to help Japan shut down Fukushima reactors

https://www.rt.com/business/323544-fukushima-russia-japan-nuclear/

"Russia’s state nuclear energy company Rosatom is ready to help Japan shut down the reactors at the Fukushima nuclear power plant. A huge earthquake and a resulting tsunami hit the plant in March 2011, causing three nuclear meltdowns and a massive radiation leak.

Japan has been struggling in its cleanup effort in the aftermath of the nuclear accident. As of March 2015, about 600,000 tons of contaminated water was contained within tanks at the site, with the cleanup estimated to take up to 40 years."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 3rd, 2015, 09:02am

337 whales wash ashore on Chilean coast in one of the largest mass strandings ever

Scientists counted 305 bodies and 32 skeletons

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"Although human intervention has been ruled out, the cause behind the whales’ death still remains unknown. National Geographic reported previously that the Chilean government had launched an investigation because whales are protected species."

"Carolina Simon Gutstein, a palaeontologist at the University of Chile, said: “They probably died at sea, we don’t know exactly where, but they didn’t just die by stranding.” She added that sei whales were not usually seen gathering in large groups."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/337-whales-wash-up-on-chilean-coast-in-one-of-the-largest-mass-strandings-ever-a6756746.html#gallery

>>> Scientists say the discovery of the 337 beached whales is one of the biggest strandings ever recorded. <<<

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Dec 3rd, 2015, 10:15pm

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We seem to be exhibiting the Boiling Frog Syndrome

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/radiation-japan-nuclear-disaster-spreads-off-u-shores-222502042.html
PORTLAND, Ore. (Reuters) - Radiation from Japan's 2011 nuclear disaster has spread off North American shores and contamination is increasing at previously identified sites, although levels are still too low to threaten human or ocean life, scientists said on Thursday.

Tests of hundreds of samples of Pacific Ocean water confirmed that Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant continues to leak radioactive isotopes more than four years after its meltdown, said Ken Buesseler, marine radiochemist with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

Trace amounts of cesium-134 have been detected within several hundred miles (km) of the Oregon, Washington and California coasts in recent months, as well as offshore from Canada's Vancouver Island.

Another isotope, cesium-137, a radioactive legacy of nuclear weapons tests conducted from the 1950s through the 1970s, was found at low levels in nearly every seawater sample tested by Woods Hole, a nonprofit research institution.

"Despite the fact that the levels of contamination off our shores remain well below government-established safety limits for human health or to marine life, the changing values underscore the need to more closely monitor contamination levels across the Pacific," Buesseler said in an email.

In March 2011, a massive earthquake triggered a tsunami that struck the Fukushima nuclear plant, 130 miles (209 km) northeast of Tokyo, causing triple nuclear meltdowns and forcing more than 160,000 residents to flee from nearby towns. It was the world's worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986.

Last year, Woods Hole reported detectable radiation from about 100 miles (160 km) off the coast of northern California, and in April radiation was found off Canada's shores.

The latest readings measured the highest radiation levels outside Japanese waters to date some 1,600 miles (2,574 km) west of San Francisco.

The figures also confirm that the spread of radiation to North American waters is not isolated to a handful of locations, but can be detected along a stretch of more than 1,000 miles (1,600 km) offshore.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 3rd, 2015, 10:43pm

cry

TO WIT:

"We seem to be exhibiting the Boiling Frog Syndrome"

UNCANNY ~ HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT TODAY ~ OF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCE...

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'REACH BEYOND TIME' wink

https://www.reverbnation.com/philipscales/song/21033775-reach-beyond-time

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"Tests of hundreds of samples of Pacific Ocean water confirmed that Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant continues to leak radioactive isotopes more than four years after its meltdown, said Ken Buesseler, marine radiochemist with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution."

EVERY DAY ~ IS A SPECIAL DAY ~ A LA CASEBOOK CAFE' wink

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EDIT TO ADD:

ZETAR WROTE: >>> Oct 24th, 2013, 12:00pm <<<

THERE ARE FEW GLOBAL FRIENDS WHOM HAVE RECOGNIZED THE CRITICAL MASS WITH THE FUKUSHIMA DISASTER.
TEPCO HAS BEEN IN COMPLETE DENIAL...NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES/THEIR FELLOW JAPANESE CITIZENS (WHOM I ADORE) AND HAVE BEEN LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I WENT THROUGH KATRINA...DEEP WATER HORIZON...ALONG WITH OTHERS OF SIMILAR DISASTERS...SANDY...NEED I SAY MORE...
BUT COLLECTIVELY...YES COLLECTIVELY...THESE ARE LIKE A LEAKING FAUCET IN THE KITCHEN COMPARED TO UNLIMITED/UNCONTROLLED RADIATION GUSHING EACH AND EVERY DAY TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN...WHICH THROUGH OCEANIC CURRENTS...ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS TARGETS THE U.S. WEST COAST.
I KNOW THERE SHOULD BE NO ONE WHOM DOES NOT HAVE THAT IMAGE OF DEEP WATERS FAILED CONTAINMENT CAP...BILLOWING RAW OIL INTO THE CARIBBEAN BASIN.
IF A LEADER IN PRECARIOUS TURBULENT TIMES NEED SOMETHING HE/SHE CARED ABOUT...HIS/HER CHILDREN'S FUTURE/AND WANTED TO GALVANIZE WORLD OPINION...STOPPING THIS BLATANT.DISREGARD FOR SEA LIFE...HUMAN LIFE...COULD/SHOULD BE TOP PRIORITY.
OUR SPECIES...ANY SPECIES WILL NOT OUTLIVE THE HALF LIFES OF THIS CONSTANT BARRAGE OF RADIATION...NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE MUTATIONS AND IRREVOCABLE DAMAGE TO THE WORLDS FOOD CHAIN...
THINK NOT...CHECK THIS ARTICLE.OUT THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FEW WHICH HAS BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THIS...MSM...THEY ARE STILL DOING THE PENNSYLVANIA AVE. TWO STEP...BUT...SOME ARE LOOKING...LISTENING...I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T WAIT TILL THEY LOOK IN THE MIRROR ONE DAY AND NOTICE THAT WELL...I DIDN'T THINK I GOT THAT MUCH SUN TODAY...GEEZ...

WE PROVIDE THE...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Dec 11th, 2015, 1:23pm

Truth Containment Vessels appear to be leaking ..massive amount of Lethal truth leaking and released into the air!


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-10/declassified-us-government-report-%E2%80%9C100-total-spent-fuel-was-released-atmosphere-unit
Declassified U.S. Government Report on Fukushima: “100% of The Total Spent Fuel Was Released to the Atmosphere from Unit 4”


We reported in 2011 that the International Atomic Energy Commission knew within weeks that Fukushima had melted down … but failed and refused to tell the public.

The same year, we reported in 2011 that the U.S. knew within days of the Fukushima accident that Fukushima had melted down … but failed to tell the public.

We noted in 2012:






The fuel pools and rods at Fukushima appear to have “boiled”, caught fire and/or exploded soon after the earthquake knocked out power systems. See this, this, this, this and this.

Now, a declassified report written by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission on March 18, 2011 – one week after the tidal wave hit Fukushima – states:






The source term provided to NARAC was: (1) 25% of the total fuel in unit 2 released to the atmosphere, (2) 50% of the total spent fuel from unit 3 was released to the atmosphere, and (3) 100% of the total spent fuel was released to the atmosphere from unit 4.
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NARAC is the the U.S. National Atmospheric Release Advisory Center, located at the University of California’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. NARAC “provides tools and services that map the probable spread of hazardous material accidentally or intentionally released into the atmosphere“.

The fuel pools at Units 3 and 4 contained enormous amounts of radiation.

For example, there was “more cesium in that [Unit 4] fuel pool than in all 800 nuclear bombs exploded above ground.”
75h y.


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Fukushima.jpg
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Gort on Dec 11th, 2015, 1:32pm

Mutations are an important feature of evolution, non-adapatables (a new term coined by me), fall by the wayside.

Radioactive Salmon, better than smoked. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by jm57 on Dec 11th, 2015, 6:29pm

Silence,The best a taxpayer can buy
Until it's too late.
I pity my children and grandchildren.
MSM in the USA is so lame and redirective.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 18th, 2015, 11:48am

YES INDEED JM57 ~ GENERATIONS WHICH FOLLOW US WILL INDEED BE SUBJECTED TO ~ WHO/WHOM KNOWS WHAT...

Former Official: Fukushima is “unstoppable”… Huge amounts of radiation are pouring out, “very serious” for Pacific Ocean — Journalists withholding shocking information — Plant Chief: “This is something that has never been experienced”… We must invent new science for unprecedented catastrophe

http://enenews.com/former-japan-official-fukushima-unstoppable-situation-pacific-ocean-very-serious-huge-amounts-radiation-pouring-everyday-japan-harming-global-environment-plant-chief-never-experienced-new-science-b

Fukushima decommission chief [Naohiro Masuda] warns with surprising candor: Nothing can be promised… not even robots have been able to enter the main fuel-debris areas so far… “This is something that has never been experienced. A textbook doesn’t exist for something like this,” Masuda told The Associated Press… “Before, it was a war zone,” Masuda said quietly… [E]ven the most optimistic projections estimate the work will take about half a century. Masuda said without hesitation that more delays could be in order. >>> No one knows exactly where the melted nuclear debris is sitting in the reactors, let alone how exactly the debris might be taken out… <<<

>>> New science will have to be invented for the plant to be cleaned up <<<

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THE 'CULT' OF GLOBAL WARMING...HMMM...WAIT...CLIMATE CHANGE...WELL...EVER HOW THEY BRAND IT ~ IT SEEMS THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE AND DIRECT EFFECT/AFFECT ON THE METRICS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY WHICH HAS BEEN SILENCED!!!

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WORTHY OF REPETITION >>> New science will have to be invented for the plant to be cleaned up <<<

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SEEM TO BE...

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HOPEFULLY THE SMOKE WILL CLEAR FOR THOSE WHOM HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED DENIAL...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 23rd, 2015, 10:20pm

Major Japan Newspaper: Mutations in nearly every fir tree by Fukushima plant — Insects with missing legs or crooked — Abnormalities also found in monkeys, fish and frogs

http://enenews.com/major-japan-newspaper-mutations-every-fir-tree-fukushima-plant-insects-missing-crooked-legs-abnormalities-found-monkeys-carp-frogs

"Dec 22, 2015 (emphasis added): More than 90 percent of the fir trees in forests close to the site of Japan’s 2011 nuclear disaster are showing signs of abnormality, and plant lice specimens collected in a town more than 30 kilometers from the crippled facility are missing legs or crooked. But it remains unclear whether the mutations in plants and animals are definitively connected to the disaster at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant. All that scientists in Japan are prepared to say is they are trying to figure out the effects of radioactive cesium caused by the release of huge amounts of radioactive materials from the triple meltdown at the Fukushima plant… Scientists are seeking… signs of mutation in plants and animals in areas close to the stricken nuclear plant… Scientists have reported on mutations and abnormalities among species varying from fir trees and plant lice to Japanese monkeys, carp and frogs. The National Institute of Radiological Sciences (NIRS), a government-affiliated entity, said in late August that the trunks of fir trees are not growing vertically. Fir trees are among the 44 species that the Environment Ministry asked the NIRS and other research organizations to study in trying to determine the effects of radiation on living creatures. The NIRS reported that the frequency of these mutations corresponds to a rise in natural background radiation. More than 90 percent of fir trees in the town of Okuma, just 3.5 kilometers from the crippled plant, showed signs of abnormal growth… Among other changes reported: the legs of plant lice collected in Kawamata, a town more than 30 km from the plant, were found to be missing or crooked and the white blood cell count of Japanese monkeys was lower in Fukushima, the prefectural capital, which is about 60 km from the plant… There is also a possibility that some animals, even if they exhibited signs of radiation’s effect, may no longer be alive for analysis."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Dec 24th, 2015, 6:21pm

Did Nulands cookies just join the fun and lead us to another Meltdown disaster in Ukraine?
should we forward a Tepco Manual from the good folks at Fukushima


Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via ClubOrlov.com, (author of The Five Stages Of Collapse)

With all the action in Syria, the Ukraine is no longer a subject for discussion in the West. In Russia, where the Ukraine is still a major problem looming on the horizon, and where some 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees are settling in, with no intentions of going back to what's left of the Ukraine, it is still actively discussed. But for the US, and for the EU, it is now yet another major foreign policy embarrassment, and the less said about it the better.

In the meantime, the Ukraine is in full-blown collapse - all five glorious stages of it - setting the stage for a Ukrainian Nightmare Before Christmas, or shortly after.

Phase 1. Financially, the Ukrainian government is in sovereign default as of a couple of days ago. The IMF was forced to break its own rules in order to keep it on life support even though it is clearly a deadbeat. In the process, the IMF stiffed Russia, which happens to be one of its major shareholders; what gives?



Phase 2. Industry and commerce are approaching a standstill and the country is rapidly deindustrializing. Formerly, most of the trade was with Russia; this is now over. The Ukraine does not make anything that the EU might want, except maybe prostitutes. Recently, the Ukraine has been selling off its dirt. This is illegal, but, given what's been happening there, the term “illegal” has become the stuff of comedy.



Phase 3. Politically, the Ukrainian government is a total farce. Much of it has been turned over to fly-by-night foreigners, such as the former Georgian president Saakashvili, who is a wanted criminal in his own country, which has recently stripped him of his citizenship. The parliament is stocked with criminals who bought their seat to gain immunity from prosecution, and who spend their time brawling with each other. Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was recently hauled off the podium by his crotch; how dignified is that? He seemed unfazed. Where are his testicles? Perhaps Victoria Nuland over at the US State Dept. is keeping them in a jar. This sort of action may be fun to watch on Youtube, but the reality is quite sad: those who “run” the Ukraine (if the term still applies) are only interested in one thing: stealing whatever is left.



Phase 4. Ukrainian society (if the term still applies) has been split into a number of warring factions. This was, to some extent, inevitable. What happens if you take bits of Poland, Hungary, Romania and Russia, and stick them together willy-nilly? Well, results may vary; but if you also spend $5 billion US (as the Americans did) turning the Ukrainians against Russia (and, since they are mostly Russian, against themselves), then you get a complete disaster.



Phase 5. Cultural collapse is quite advanced. The Ukraine once had the same world-class educational system as Russia, but since independence they switched to teaching in Ukrainian (a made-up language) using nonexistent textbooks. The kids have been taught a bogus history hallucinated by rabid Ukrainian nationalists. They've been told that Russia is backward and keeping them back, and that they deserve to be happy in the EU. (Just like the Greeks? Yeah...) But now the population has been reduced to levels of poverty not commonly seen outside of Africa, and young people are fleeing, or turning to gangsterism and prostitution, to merely survive. This doesn't make for a happy cultural narrative. What does it mean to be “a Ukrainian” now? Expletives deleted. Sorry I asked.

Now, here's what it all really means. With so much going wrong, the Ukraine has been unable to secure enough natural gas or coal supplies to provide a supply cushion in case of a cold snap this winter. A few weeks of frosty weather will deplete the supply, and then pipes will freeze, rendering much of the urban areas unlivable from then on (because, recall, there is no longer any money, or any industry to speak of, to repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet.

You see, the Ukraine produces over half of its electricity using nuclear power plants. 19 nuclear reactors are in operation, with 2 more supposedly under construction. And this is in a country whose economy is in free-fall and is set to approach that of Mali or Burundi! The nuclear fuel for these reactors was being supplied by Russia. An effort to replace the Russian supplier with Westinghouse failed because of quality issues leading to an accident. What is a bankrupt Ukraine, which just stiffed Russia on billions of sovereign debt, going to do when the time comes to refuel those 19 reactors? Good question!

But an even better question is, Will they even make it that far? You see, it has become known that these nuclear installations have been skimping on preventive maintenance, due to lack of funds. Now, you are probably already aware of this, but let me spell it out just in case: a nuclear reactor is not one of those things that you run until it breaks, and then call a mechanic once it does. It's not a “if it ain't broke, I can't fix it” sort of scenario. It's more of a “you missed a tune-up so I ain't going near it” scenario. And the way to keep it from breaking is to replace all the bits that are listed on the replacement schedule no later than the dates indicated on that schedule. It's either that or the thing goes “Ka-boom!” and everyone's hair falls out.

How close is Ukraine to a major nuclear accident? Well, it turns out, very close: just recently one was narrowly avoided when some Ukro-Nazis blew up electric transmission lines supplying Crimea, triggering a blackout that lasted many days. The Russians scrambled and ran a transmission line from the Russian mainland, so now Crimea is lit up again. But while that was happening, the Southern Ukrainian, with its 4 energy blocks, lost its connection to the grid, and it was only the very swift, expert actions taken by the staff there that averted a nuclear accident.

I hope that you know this already, but, just in case, let me spell it out again. One of the worst things that can happen to a nuclear reactor is loss of electricity supply. Yes, nuclear power stations make electricity—some of the time—but they must be supplied with electricity all the time to avoid a meltdown. This is what happened at Fukushima Daiichi, which dusted the ground with radionuclides as far as Tokyo and is still leaking radioactive juice into the Pacific.

And so the nightmare scenario for the Ukraine is a simple one. Temperature drops below freezing and stays there for a couple of weeks. Coal and natural gas supplies run down; thermal power plants shut down; the electric grid fails; circulator pumps at the 19 nuclear reactors (which, by the way, probably haven't been overhauled as recently as they should have been) stop pumping; meltdown!

And so, if you want to say a prayer for the Ukraine this holiday season, don't bother because it's well and truly 666d. But do say a prayer for global warming. If this winter stays very, very warm, then the “19 Fukushimas” scenario just may be averted. This is not impossible: we've been seeing one freakishly warm winter after another, and each passing month is setting new records. The future is looking hot—as in very warm. Let us pray that it doesn't also turn out to be hot—as in radioactive.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 16th, 2016, 2:21pm

on Dec 24th, 2015, 6:21pm, SysConfig wrote:
Did Nulands cookies just join the fun and lead us to another Meltdown disaster in Ukraine?
should we forward a Tepco Manual from the good folks at Fukushima


Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via ClubOrlov.com, (author of The Five Stages Of Collapse)

With all the action in Syria, the Ukraine is no longer a subject for discussion in the West. In Russia, where the Ukraine is still a major problem looming on the horizon, and where some 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees are settling in, with no intentions of going back to what's left of the Ukraine, it is still actively discussed. But for the US, and for the EU, it is now yet another major foreign policy embarrassment, and the less said about it the better.

In the meantime, the Ukraine is in full-blown collapse - all five glorious stages of it - setting the stage for a Ukrainian Nightmare Before Christmas, or shortly after.

Phase 1. Financially, the Ukrainian government is in sovereign default as of a couple of days ago. The IMF was forced to break its own rules in order to keep it on life support even though it is clearly a deadbeat. In the process, the IMF stiffed Russia, which happens to be one of its major shareholders; what gives?



Phase 2. Industry and commerce are approaching a standstill and the country is rapidly deindustrializing. Formerly, most of the trade was with Russia; this is now over. The Ukraine does not make anything that the EU might want, except maybe prostitutes. Recently, the Ukraine has been selling off its dirt. This is illegal, but, given what's been happening there, the term “illegal” has become the stuff of comedy.



Phase 3. Politically, the Ukrainian government is a total farce. Much of it has been turned over to fly-by-night foreigners, such as the former Georgian president Saakashvili, who is a wanted criminal in his own country, which has recently stripped him of his citizenship. The parliament is stocked with criminals who bought their seat to gain immunity from prosecution, and who spend their time brawling with each other. Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was recently hauled off the podium by his crotch; how dignified is that? He seemed unfazed. Where are his testicles? Perhaps Victoria Nuland over at the US State Dept. is keeping them in a jar. This sort of action may be fun to watch on Youtube, but the reality is quite sad: those who “run” the Ukraine (if the term still applies) are only interested in one thing: stealing whatever is left.



Phase 4. Ukrainian society (if the term still applies) has been split into a number of warring factions. This was, to some extent, inevitable. What happens if you take bits of Poland, Hungary, Romania and Russia, and stick them together willy-nilly? Well, results may vary; but if you also spend $5 billion US (as the Americans did) turning the Ukrainians against Russia (and, since they are mostly Russian, against themselves), then you get a complete disaster.



Phase 5. Cultural collapse is quite advanced. The Ukraine once had the same world-class educational system as Russia, but since independence they switched to teaching in Ukrainian (a made-up language) using nonexistent textbooks. The kids have been taught a bogus history hallucinated by rabid Ukrainian nationalists. They've been told that Russia is backward and keeping them back, and that they deserve to be happy in the EU. (Just like the Greeks? Yeah...) But now the population has been reduced to levels of poverty not commonly seen outside of Africa, and young people are fleeing, or turning to gangsterism and prostitution, to merely survive. This doesn't make for a happy cultural narrative. What does it mean to be “a Ukrainian” now? Expletives deleted. Sorry I asked.

Now, here's what it all really means. With so much going wrong, the Ukraine has been unable to secure enough natural gas or coal supplies to provide a supply cushion in case of a cold snap this winter. A few weeks of frosty weather will deplete the supply, and then pipes will freeze, rendering much of the urban areas unlivable from then on (because, recall, there is no longer any money, or any industry to speak of, to repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet.

You see, the Ukraine produces over half of its electricity using nuclear power plants. 19 nuclear reactors are in operation, with 2 more supposedly under construction. And this is in a country whose economy is in free-fall and is set to approach that of Mali or Burundi! The nuclear fuel for these reactors was being supplied by Russia. An effort to replace the Russian supplier with Westinghouse failed because of quality issues leading to an accident. What is a bankrupt Ukraine, which just stiffed Russia on billions of sovereign debt, going to do when the time comes to refuel those 19 reactors? Good question!

But an even better question is, Will they even make it that far? You see, it has become known that these nuclear installations have been skimping on preventive maintenance, due to lack of funds. Now, you are probably already aware of this, but let me spell it out just in case: a nuclear reactor is not one of those things that you run until it breaks, and then call a mechanic once it does. It's not a “if it ain't broke, I can't fix it” sort of scenario. It's more of a “you missed a tune-up so I ain't going near it” scenario. And the way to keep it from breaking is to replace all the bits that are listed on the replacement schedule no later than the dates indicated on that schedule. It's either that or the thing goes “Ka-boom!” and everyone's hair falls out.

How close is Ukraine to a major nuclear accident? Well, it turns out, very close: just recently one was narrowly avoided when some Ukro-Nazis blew up electric transmission lines supplying Crimea, triggering a blackout that lasted many days. The Russians scrambled and ran a transmission line from the Russian mainland, so now Crimea is lit up again. But while that was happening, the Southern Ukrainian, with its 4 energy blocks, lost its connection to the grid, and it was only the very swift, expert actions taken by the staff there that averted a nuclear accident.

I hope that you know this already, but, just in case, let me spell it out again. One of the worst things that can happen to a nuclear reactor is loss of electricity supply. Yes, nuclear power stations make electricity—some of the time—but they must be supplied with electricity all the time to avoid a meltdown. This is what happened at Fukushima Daiichi, which dusted the ground with radionuclides as far as Tokyo and is still leaking radioactive juice into the Pacific.

And so the nightmare scenario for the Ukraine is a simple one. Temperature drops below freezing and stays there for a couple of weeks. Coal and natural gas supplies run down; thermal power plants shut down; the electric grid fails; circulator pumps at the 19 nuclear reactors (which, by the way, probably haven't been overhauled as recently as they should have been) stop pumping; meltdown!

And so, if you want to say a prayer for the Ukraine this holiday season, don't bother because it's well and truly 666d. But do say a prayer for global warming. If this winter stays very, very warm, then the “19 Fukushimas” scenario just may be averted. This is not impossible: we've been seeing one freakishly warm winter after another, and each passing month is setting new records. The future is looking hot—as in very warm. Let us pray that it doesn't also turn out to be hot—as in radioactive.


Ukraine.....the Geordanians have a situation awareness also...

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UEV-20160111-51636-GEO

Georgia's security agency said Monday it has arrested three men suspected of peddling radioactive cesium, the latest in a series of operations against nuclear smugglers in the ex-Soviet nation. The agency said Monday that the men were arrested in the capital, Tbilisi, while trying to sell an unspecified amount of cesium-137 for $100,000. It didn't say when the arrest was made or give any other details. Cesium-137, a byproduct of nuclear reactors, is used for various medical and industrial purposes. Georgia and some other ex-Soviet nations have seen numerous attempts at contraband trade in radioactive substances. There have been fears that if such materials fall in the hands of extremists, they could be used in a "dirty bomb," a device intended to contaminate large areas using conventional explosives. Georgia has relied on assistance from the U.S. to combat nuclear smuggling. Georgian law enforcement agencies have arrested dozens of suspected traders in radioactive substances over the past several years.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 19th, 2016, 10:56pm

NICE WORK CLIFF!

ZETAR WROTE ON >>> Nov 28th, 2013, 6:11pm <<<

WELL..IT'S CLEAR NOW ...AS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS/IS APATHY...IS THAT THE NUKE CARTEL ARE ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM...BUT...LET'S BUILD FIFTY MORE...THAT'LL SOLVE IT...
JAPAN IS THE EPITOME OF A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY...AND THEY ARE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS ON FUKU...TEPCO FUMBLED
( WHILE I MAINTAIN VIGILANT RESPECT FOR THE JAPANESE PEOPLE AND SOCIETY) THE BALL AND SUCH WILL BE PANDEMONIUM FOR THE WORLD...DOMO ARIGATO...
PROFESSOR SAYS..."FUKUSHIMA IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING"
SEA LIFE AT THE GREATEST DEPTHS ARE RUNNING FROM THE CHANGE IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT...THEY ( FOR THOSE THEYERS-ALL SEA LIFE) ARE SIGNALING TO THOSE CAPABLE OF CONNECTING

IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO PONDER A COUPLE OF DECADES FROM NOW AND CONDISDER THE MUTATIONS ON THE WAY!!!

"A mountain lion with a second set of teeth growing out of its head has been killed in Idaho. Radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster causing mutations in USA!"

"The big cat was killed by an unidentified hunter last week in Weston, Idaho who then reported the animal's bizarre deformity to the authorities, Idaho State Journal reports."

"Idaho conservation officers, who were sent a photograph of the kill, were shocked to find the year-old lion had a separate set of teeth growing out the left side of its forehead. This lion was born several years AFTER Fukushima radiation began arriving in the USA from Japan."

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/748

Experts have not been able to agree on the cause of the unusual mutation.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Jan 20th, 2016, 07:03am

Other explanations need consideration before jumping to this conclusion. The mountain lion mutation story has been making the rounds lately. That the condition was caused by radiation from Fukushima is unproven and seems primarily based on the logic that radiation can cause mutations (true), this animal has a mutation (true), Fukushima released radiation (true) therefore this mutation was caused by radiation from Fukushima. (not necessarily true)

An alternate take on some of these matters:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/02/debunking-fukushima-radiation-myths-2014221153139302317.html

"In today's world of blogs and Wikipedia, being first is critical - in fact, we often find that you can typically have almost any question answered by a person claiming to be an authority within as little as four minutes of an event."

Unfortunately, countering misinformation after the fact is a daunting and impossible task nowadays. Doing so especially with all the reasons something may be wrong often falls victim to the Overkill Backfire Effect that reinforces the unfounded belief.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 20th, 2016, 08:20am

GHOST,

TO WIT:

"Other explanations need consideration before jumping to this conclusion."

I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT >>> MUTATIONS <<< ARE A NATURAL PART OF EVOLUTION. HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED...ONE WOULD BE NAIVE TO NOT CONSIDER FUKUSHIMA IN LIEU OF THE DEVASTAION OF SEA LIFE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN AND THE UNUSUALLY HIGH/RARE OBSERVATIONS OF SEA LIFE DYING (NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ONE PARTICULAR SPECIES) OFF ALONG THE WEST COAST...IMHO...MOREOVER, TO NOT FACTOR THE IMPLICATIONS OF SUCH BIO-ACCUMULATION OF RADIOLOGICAL PARTICULATE FROM THE CONTINUOUS GUSHING OF FUKUSHIMA...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Jan 20th, 2016, 08:36am

ZETAR, NAIVE IS SUCH A HARSH WORD.

BEING NAIVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARGUMENT OR BASIS WHY THIS STORY PRESENTS NO REAL EVIDENCE IT WAS CAUSED BY RADIATION. THOSE BELIEVING IT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT WOULD BE NAIVE NOT TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE WOULD PERHAPS BE GUILTY OF ........... BEING NAIVE. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Marvin on Jan 20th, 2016, 10:40am

Some people call me ignorant. Some people call me apathetic. All I have to say is I don’t know and I don’t care.


All joking aside and as a word of caution, the only thing worse than doing nothing is overreacting. This seem especially true with it comes to the environment… man has done more damage to the environment by “management via overreaction” (with the best of intentions). Do not misunderstand what I am saying; I am not saying don’t give a hoot and pollute… I believe in "give a hoot and don’t pollute." But, there have been many cases where the belief of doing something is better than doing nothing… and that has led to disastrous results (because, people who belief this statement are generally being led by ignorance and arrogance... a dangerous combination).



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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Marvin on Jan 20th, 2016, 12:31pm

on Jan 19th, 2016, 10:56pm, ZETAR wrote:
"Idaho conservation officers, who were sent a photograph of the kill, were shocked to find the year-old lion had a separate set of teeth growing out the left side of its forehead. This lion was born several years AFTER Fukushima radiation began arriving in the USA from Japan."

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/748

Experts have not been able to agree on the cause of the unusual mutation.

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Has "fetus in fetu" been ruled out for this puma... or is it actually a mutation?



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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Feb 2nd, 2016, 11:15am

Hmmm..... Wonder what else might be messing with their food supplyhuh




Massive Bird Die-Off Puzzles Alaskan Scientists


by Elizabeth Newbern, Staff Writer
February 01, 2016 04:16pm ET

Thousands of dead seabirds have washed up on Alaskan shores over the past nine months. And while a dead bird washing ashore is a fairly common occurrence, these large numbers are leaving scientists concerned and confused.

Nearly 8,000 common murres (Uria aalge) were found along the shores of Whittier, Alaska, in early January. Over the New Year's holiday, Alaska experienced four days of gale-force winds from the southeast that resulted in dead birds washing ashore, said Robb Kaler, a wildlife biologist for the Alaska branch of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).

Scientists have known for some time that the key to surviving strong storm winds is having an energy reserve, according to an expert at Tufts University, and Kaler and his colleagues think that the common murres were not finding enough food this season, which may be why so many didn't make it through the storm.

Read more: http://www.livescience.com/53557-massive-bird-die-off-puzzles-scientists.html



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 2nd, 2016, 12:59pm

SWAMP,

TO WIT:

"Massive Bird Die-Off Puzzles Alaskan Scientists"

BUT THEN AGAIN ~ DIE-OFFS SEEM TO CROSS A NUMBER OF SPECIES ~ WHICH INDEED SHOULD BE CONCERNING TO PRUDENT THINKERS...

CANARY IN THE COAL MINE SYNDROME...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 6th, 2016, 10:03pm

I wonder if frozen Methane deposits are percolating upwards..Is our atmosphere changing..like those planets out there with methane and other hydrocarbon as the principal components..That Methane geyser in LA shows no sign of letting up..and increased radioactive radon is showing its arse now..



The Japanese are in a Death Spiral and we are part of it..

http://news.yahoo.com/japans-sakurajima-volcano-not-far-nuclear-plant-erupts-103358585--finance.html;_ylt=A86.J7xQrrZWYXgAs4InnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--


Increasingly .it seems the system that sustains is changing rapidly..
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-06/65000-spike-reported-radioactivity-after-tritium-leaks-indian-point-nuclear-power-pl
65,000% Spike In Reported Radioactivity After Tritium Leaks At Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/06/2016 17:51 -0500




Two years after being fined for falsifying safety records, nine months after a transformer exploded at the Indian Point Nuclear Reactor just 37 miles from midtown Manhattan, and two months after Entergy - the plant's operator - shut down the Unit 2 reactor after a major power outage cut power to several control rods (when the company assured that no radioactivity was released into the environment), this afternoon NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said he learned that "radioactive tritium-contaminated water" had leaked into the groundwater at the nuclear facility in Westchester County.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 13th, 2016, 5:55pm

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2016/02/a-scientific-basis-for-destruction-of.html

Int21 you should take a look at this..I took Radio-Bio and absorption rates in the 70s and this looks legit if not worth a look..
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 13th, 2016, 6:06pm

Sys,

I'll check it out tomorrow. Past my bedtime.

' night all.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Feb 13th, 2016, 7:30pm

on Feb 13th, 2016, 5:55pm, SysConfig wrote:
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2016/02/a-scientific-basis-for-destruction-of.html

Int21 you should take a look at this..I took Radio-Bio and absorption rates in the 70s and this looks legit if not worth a look..





i'm confused


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 14th, 2016, 07:26am

Sys,

That is an interesting item.

It doesn't tell us very much. But it does highlight the lack of basic data that is available to the general public, and that data is often read differently by different scientists.
The problem becomes 'who is reading ti correctly ?'

The people in the clip do not specify the type of radiation,

Alpha, beta or Gamma. Or something else.

The mention of the building suggests that the radiation is coming from the steel frame and is due to Cobalt.

This would also indicate that all workers involved with the production of the steel, from the point that Cobalt was added, would also be at susceptible to this form of radiation.
We just don't have enough info.

When I was a child I had to go for weekly Ultra Violet treatment due to a skin problem, Lack of Sunlight.

We all sat around a big UV lamp for half an hour with our eye protection glasses on. That was it.

I don't know what level the radiation was. But these days we are told not to stay out in the Sun for longer than a few minutes.

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INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by drwu23 on Feb 14th, 2016, 11:46am

on Feb 13th, 2016, 7:30pm, MOKSHA wrote:


i'm confused



That woman is bat shit crazy.......I think she's the confused one.

laugh
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 14th, 2016, 2:45pm

Doc hehe crazy as Junebug for sure..She used to call all those who opposed the Iraq war traitors..now she has to defend Trump..too funny.. grin

Int21 Thanx for looking at that there is something definitely going on that maybe both sides missed and this kid caught..something that may be unstoppable even if we shut power plants down..some things in nature..when they reach a flashpoint..may make anything we do.irreversible... I noted Enews pause at the end..I bookmarked it
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2016/02/a-scientific-basis-for-destruction-of.html

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 29th, 2016, 01:16am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/3-ex-execs-of-utility-charged-in-fukushima-disaster/2016/02/28/aaa466dc-de93-11e5-8c00-8aa03741dced_story.html

THE WASHINGTON POST

Three Ex Execs. Charged in Fukushima Disaster
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Feb 29th, 2016, 08:30am

CLIFF,

WELL DONE. AHHHHH SOOOO THEY HAVE BEEN CHOSEN TO FALL ON THEIR SWORD...

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"TOKYO — Three former Japanese utility executives were formally charged Monday with negligence in the Fukushima nuclear disaster, becoming the first officials from the company to face a criminal trial."

"Five court-appointed lawyers indicted Tsunehisa Katsumata, chairman of Tokyo Electric power Co. at the time of the crisis, and two other TEPCO executives, according to the lawyers’ offices. The three men, charged with professional negligence, were not taken into custody."

"The indictment follows a decision in July by an 11-member judicial committee to send the three men to a criminal court after prosecutors dropped the case twice, saying they could not obtain sufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against them."

"In Japan, a court-appointed judicial committee has the final say about criminal complaints filed to a prosecutors’ office, which are then dropped."

"Proving criminal responsibility for failing to prevent the Fukushima meltdowns may be difficult, but many people, including residents of the area affected by the disaster, say they hope any trial will reveal information about the disaster and TEPCO’s role that has not been disclosed by the utility."

SHOW TRIAL? ~ WE SHALLL SEE ~ WHEN LAWYERS BEGIN TO SUE FOR CIVIL DAMAGES (ASIDE FROM THOSE REPRESENTIONING NAVY SAILORS)...ENVIRONMENTAL/HUMAN/ETC. ~ IN ADDITION TO THE OUTCOME OF THE CRIMINAL ADJUDICATION ~ 'I'M A GUESSIN' IT WILL GET QUITE INTERESTING.

THANX FOR SHARING CLIFF!

SHALOM...Z

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Mar 6th, 2016, 12:50pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-05/former-pm-admits-future-existence-japan-was-stake-mutations-appear-fukushima-forest
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 7th, 2016, 12:00pm

on Mar 6th, 2016, 12:50pm, SysConfig wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-05/former-pm-admits-future-existence-japan-was-stake-muthations-appear-fukushima-forest


That's quite an understatement coming from the former Prime Minister. The truth is, the entire northern hemisphere of this planet was at stake. Mox fuel..... Skyshine.... He did right imo by keeping 50 staff there. Thank God !
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 15th, 2016, 12:34pm

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20160310-52426-USA

Florida- Turkey Point leaking high levels of radioactive isotope in protected waters.

(More unknowns than knowns). Not to worry though....(there is no threat to public safety)

rolleyes

Oh my....Im so glad to live in a petri dish.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 5th, 2016, 09:19am

TRENDING NOW ~ ON TWITTER:

#ReasonsHumansWillGoExtinct

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Apr 5th, 2016, 09:32am

Putting aside there are to be expected differences in levels after such an event, what do they mean in terms of effect? One can say the levels are magnitudes higher but that alone is not the whole story.
I am not questioning the numbers (yet) but I tend to take this representation of data and implied impact with a grain of salt with topics like this.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 5th, 2016, 09:44am

GHOST.

TO WIT:

"I am not questioning the numbers (yet) but I tend to take this representation of data and implied impact with a grain of salt with topics like this."

A HEALTHY AND ENLIGHTENED APPROACH ~ YOU MIGHT TEMPER UR UNDERSTANING OF THIS WITH THE REALITY OF AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF CROSS SPECIES DIE-OFFS IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN ~ I'M AN OLD SCHOOL CAUSE AND EFFECT KINDA FELLA...

cause and effect

phrase of cause

1.the principle of causation.

•the operation or relation of a cause

IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK ~ QUACKS LIKE A DUCK ~ WELL YA GET MY POINT...

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Apr 5th, 2016, 10:23am

on Apr 5th, 2016, 09:44am, ZETAR wrote:
~ I'M AN OLD SCHOOL CAUSE AND EFFECT KINDA FELLA...

SHALOM...Z‎


I'LL HAVE TO COUNTER WITH THAT I'M "A CORRELATION DOES NOT ALWAYS IMPLY CAUSATION" KINDA HORSE OF COURSE. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 5th, 2016, 12:12pm

GHOST,

TO WIT:

"I'M "A CORRELATION DOES NOT ALWAYS IMPLY CAUSATION" KINDA HORSE OF COURSE"

QUITE AN ASTUTE REPLY MY FRIEND!

BUT OF COURSE...

"The conventional dictum that "correlation does not imply causation" means that correlation cannot be used to infer a causal relationship between the variables.[15] This dictum >>> should not be taken to mean that correlations cannot indicate the potential existence of causal relations" <<< wink

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PER UR POST ~ I SHOULD HAVE USED ~ STATISTICAL PROBABILITY grin

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 7th, 2016, 3:56pm

"Scientists: “Unprecedentedly huge mortality events” happening along US West Coast — “Die-offs… are ongoing and severe!… Really a big story” — We had diversity, we had organisms in the water… then all of a sudden we saw nothing, it was really striking"

http://enenews.com/scientists-unprecedentedly-huge-mortality-events-happening-along-west-coast-die-offs-ongoing-severe-really-big-story-diversity-organisms-water-all-sudden-really-striking-video

Julie Keister, Univ. of Washington: [Slide: 'Unprecedented Mass Mortality Event' ~100,000 dead Cassin's Auklets] — “Some seabird data… for Cassin’s Auklets… they eat mainly krill… what you’re seeing is a time series September through March with massive die offs over the winter compared to normal, so really big ecosystem effects.”

Melissa Carter, Scripps Institution of Oceanography: “What I want to show here, and again one of the things that we’ve talked about today is how different the system has been throughout California, Baja all the way up to Alaska… The surface chlorophyll, we have seen a major decrease… We had seen a decrease in the phytoplankton concentration starting in November of 2013. The samples that were coming in, the reports that were coming throughout California — we weren’t seeing anything. It was really striking to me that all of a sudden we have diversity, we have organisms that are in the water — we’ve seen nothing. So that was really brought to my attention.”

SHALOM...Z




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 12th, 2016, 08:47am

shocked

Nuclear Expert in Fukushima: People’s feet turned black for years because radiation so high — Every time I turned around I saw someone who had radiation damage — Hair falling out, caughing up blood, bodies covered with boils… Officials keeping doctors from telling truth… Public being brainwashed

http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-fukushima-peoples-feet-turned-black-years-because-radiation-levels-high-every-time-turned-around-radiation-damage-hair-fell-bloody-noses-bodies-covered-boils-officials-covering-pu

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"Apr 5, 2016 (emphasis added) — Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen: [During my recent trip to Japan] I met in one of the resettlement areas… The unofficial mayor of this group – a real dynamo of a woman – she experienced hair loss, bloody nose, speckles on her skin and the doctors told her it was stress and not to worry about it. That’s not stress. It was radiation damage. But again, that’s this inhumanity that I was experiencing… Every time I turned around, I saw people that definitely experienced radiation damage."

PAS EXAMPLE...

This is the hand of a physician who was exposed to repeated small doses of x-ray radiation for 15 years
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ALAS...THE ENLIGHTENED ACADEMIC MIGHT NEGLECT TO CONNECT THE DOTS DUE TO...

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ONE SHOULD AT MINIMUM QUESTION...AT WHAT POINT DOES SUCH CRITICAL THINKING BECOME UNSAFE grin...WELL...

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"Radiation doesn't recognize borders. A meltdown in Japan or India, say, is a danger to the whole world. Wind circulates the radiation everywhere. Water quality is affected. We all eat the same fish. We use products from all over the world - if something is contaminated, it will cause harm." ~ Wladimir Klitschko

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 17th, 2016, 1:06pm

http://apjjf.org//2016/06/Hirano.html


translation by Prof. Robert Stolz, transcription by Akiko Anson), published Mar 8, 2016 (emphasis added): [Radioactive] material has been dispersed, contaminating Tohoku, Kanto [Tokyo area], and western Japan… [The law says] that absolutely nothing may be removed from a radioactive management area in which the levels exceed 40,000 Becquerels per square meter… [H]ow much area has been contaminated beyond 40,000 Bq/m2… that answer is 140,000 km^2 [54,054 square miles]… Indeed, while centered on Fukushima, parts of Chiba and Tokyo have also been contaminated. The number of people living in what must be called a radiation-controlled area is in the millions, and could exceed ten million… I believe the government has the responsibility to evacuate these entire communities… the government decided to leave them exposed to the real danger of radiation. In my view, Fukushima should be declared inhabitable… but if that were to be done, it would likely bankrupt the country… They’ve decided to sacrifice people… In my view, this is a serious crime committed by Japan’s ruling elite… [F]undamentally, people must not be forced to live in contaminated areas… First must come complete evacuation… [W]hen it comes to radiation… “removal of contaminants” is impossible… This stuff contaminates everything.

I am so sorry these people are going thru this..as well as the quakes.
Our hands are tied not by mother nature but by men who do not respect it.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 20th, 2016, 7:45pm

Hanford again.

Thousands of gallons of radioactive water have leaked....

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20160419-52982-USA
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Apr 21st, 2016, 2:25pm

http://radiationnetwork.com


HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Apr 21st, 2016, 2:30pm

Cliff,

I guess this is the bit that drew your attention.

..The problem occurred at the double-wall storage tank AY-102, which has actually been leaking since 2011. At the time, the leak was extremely small,..


What pisses me off most is that the US government make such a big thing about other people's nuclear problems, past, present of future, and yet ignore a leak almost in the capital. Definitely two standards operating here.
HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 22nd, 2016, 4:39pm

Hanford is in the state of Washington, not D.C. , but yeah, I agree Hal.
It isn't a good situation.....at all.

Here is an update :

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=ED-20160419-52982-USA




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Apr 24th, 2016, 12:18am

I agree two standards operating here

this from wiki leaks ..clintom email from Cheryl Mills, now a Board member at Blackrock

warning her pals about Fukushima while others poopood the threat.

http://dispensaryexchange.com/blogimages/328201613598.jpg

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https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11782
RADIATION - FYI

From: Cheryl Mills
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2011-03-11 19:33
Subject: RADIATION - FYI


UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05780602 Date: 01/29/2016

RELEASE IN PART
B1,B6,1.4(C)

From: Mills, Cheryl D<MillsCD@state.gov>

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:33 AM
To:
Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fw: radiation- fyi


Classified by DAS, A/GIS, DoS on 01/29/2016 — Class: SECRET — Reason:
Scroll all the way down 1.4(C) — Declassify on: 03/12/2031

From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 07:12 AM
To: Campbell, Kurt M; Mull, Stephen D
Cc: Mills, Cheryl D

Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fw: radiation - fyi

Fyi - I do not know the originator of the info M.

Sending for fyi but not for forwarding.

Thx
Cdm

From: Cheryl Mills [mailto:
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 07:09 AM B6

To: Mills, Cheryl D
Subject: Fwd: Fw: radiation - fyi


Forwardedmessage
From: Edelman, Martin <
Date: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:02 AM

Subject: Fw: radiation - fyi
To: cheryl.mills


From: Michael Kandarakis [mailto:
Sent:Saturday, March 12,2011 06:5 AM
To: Edelman, Martin
Subject:FW: radiation - fyi


From a guy we know here in japan who does background searches for us etc...

This is not advice thacurrentlyin the news. You've met the source before Also by coincidenceIhave a 1.4(C)
B1

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05780602 Date: 01/29/2016

Radiation leak from the Fukushima reactor 1.4(C)
Stay indoors if at all possible. There is nothing,,no events, parties, sports, movies, etc that are worth B1
getting more exposure to radiation. The stuff travels far, very far.

Wind is all over the place, but we must assume it is heading towards a major area like Tokyo, a city, a heat source.

As long as the radiation leak is going, and up to 24-48 hours later, the threat is at is highest in most cases. Here is a wind
chart online. It shows wind all over the place, but one trend is there - winds head to Tokyo.

http://www.surfline.com/weather-forecasts/japan-wind-chart_2731

Also, power outage expected to hit about 1800 this evening as more people return home and start using more
electricity. Charge any devices you have that need charging. People will draw a lot of power about 1800-1900, so expect

blackouts and brownouts. Get your flashlights ready, with new batteries.

Very similar to 3-Mile Island, and maybe Chernobyl. VOA news has this take.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asiaaapans-Tsunam i-Death-Toll-Seen-Reaching-1000-117829978.htinl

Leak has been doing since last night. It is still not under control. A US team was flown in to help get this thing under control,
but that is not public record yet. It will come out later, I think.

Anway, leak from last night means it is hitting us about now. I am not going outdoors for a while.

Normally one might also take K-I (Potassium Iodine) tablets as a precautionary measure. Substitutes include alternative
sources of iodine includingisojinor consuming seaweed (nori).

Wear a mask, and a hat if possible. Take a shower immediately after you return home and wash your clothes. Radioactive
steam was released yesterday and continues today. It will likely be in the area now. What I suggest above is not costly, and
not too onerous. Do it and play it safe.

Don't go outdoors unless it is necessary.

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05780602 Date: 01/29/2016

Mitch

M. Murata
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 27th, 2016, 08:28am

Putin: Chernobyl was serious lesson to mankind

http://tass.ru/en/politics/872378

"Tuesday marks 30 years of the Chernobyl NPP disaster in then-Soviet Ukraine, caused by a botched safety test in the 4th reactor of the atomic plant that sent clouds of nuclear material into atmosphere"

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Construction site of a New Safe Confinement structure to cover damaged Unit 4 of the Chernobyl power station
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"MOSCOW, April 26. /TASS/. The scale of the Chernobyl disaster was minimized only by selfless efforts of the experts who were performing their civic duty, Russian President Vladimir Putin says."

"Chernobyl has become a serious lesson for all mankind, and to this day it has severe repercussions on both the environment and human health. The scale of the tragedy could be immeasurably greater, if it were not for the unprecedented courage and dedication of the firefighters, military personnel, experts, medical workers who honorably fulfilled their professional and civic duty. Many of them sacrificed their own lives to save others," the president said in a telegram to the participants in the liquidation of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant disaster effects that is published on the Kremlin website on Tuesday."

COMPARE THE DESTRUCTION FROM CHERNOBYL AND FUKUSHIMA ~ 30 YEARS AFTER CHERNOBYL COMPARED TO WHAT WILL RESULT FROM 30 YEARS OF A FUKUSHIMA CONTINUOUS SPEW OF RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE!

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

"Chernobyl has become a serious lesson for all mankind"

"Radiation doesn't recognize borders. A meltdown in Japan or India, say, is a danger to the whole world. Wind circulates the radiation everywhere. Water quality is affected. We all eat the same fish. We use products from all over the world - if something is contaminated, it will cause harm." ~ Wladimir Klitschko


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Apr 27th, 2016, 09:14am

Ruined Chernobyl nuclear plant will remain a threat for 3,000 years

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article73405857.html

"30 years since Chernobyl may seem like a long time, but it’s really just the start

Below reactor’s ruins is a 2,000-ton radioactive mass that can’t be removed

How do you protect a site for as long a time as Western civilization has existed?"

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"Before the fire, the vomiting, the deaths and the vanishing home, it was the promise of bumper cars that captured the imagination of the boys."

"It will be 30 years ago Tuesday that Pripyat and the nearby Chernobyl nuclear plant became synonymous with nuclear disaster, that the word Chernobyl came to mean more than just a little village in rural Ukraine, and this place became more than just another spot in the shadowy Soviet Union."

"Even 30 years later – 25 years after the country that built it ceased to exist – the full damage of that day is still argued."

"Death toll estimates run from hundreds to millions. The area near the reactor is both a teeming wildlife refuge and an irradiated ghost-scape. Much of eastern and central Europe continues to deal with fallout aftermath. The infamous Reactor Number 4 remains a problem that is neither solved nor solvable."

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"But on the night before their world changed, nothing seemed more important to the boys than shiny blue and yellow cars, with actual steering wheels, almost ready for a 10-year-old to drive."

"They knew they would have to wait till May 1, 1986, for the bumper cars to be turned on – a seemingly impossible-to-live-through week away. So Alexandr Sirota and his friends couldn’t resist sneaking into the new park after dark, beneath the deep shadows of the yet-unblinking new Ferris wheel, and under the inky dark of what would soon be the electrified roof over the bumper cars."

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"As the boys sat in the bumper cars, dreaming of the future, they knew what had to happen next. An adult would flip switches and draw some of the plentiful electricity a mile down the wires from the station, probably Reactor Number 4, as that was the nearest. The rest would be magic. Life would be magic.
The swings and Ferris wheel remain in an amusement park that was scheduled to open on May 1, 1986, for the Soviet May Day celebrations in Pripyat, Ukraine. It never opened."

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"Early that morning, just after 1 a.m., while those in Pripyat dozed, the engineers who’d spent the previous 24 hours putting Reactor Number 4 through a stress test were getting nervous. The readings weren’t right. The radiation levels were climbing too high."

"But the Soviet mindset at 1 a.m. on April 26, 1986, was very different from what it would be 24 hours later. In fact, the global perception of nuclear power was about to change."

“We knew, with certainty, with arrogant certainty, that we were in control of the power we were playing with. We could make the forces of nature bend to our will. There was nothing we could not do,” recalls Sergiy Parashyn, who’d been an engineer at the plant since 1977 and had arrived there within the hour. “This was the day, of course, when we learned we were wrong.”

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

"Clowns are the pegs on which the circus is hung." ~ P. T. Barnum


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Apr 27th, 2016, 10:11am

Chernobyl, three decades on

Date: April 26, 2016
Source: University of South Carolina

It was 30 years ago that a meltdown at the V. I. Lenin Nuclear Power Station in the former Soviet Union released radioactive contaminants into the surroundings in northern Ukraine. Airborne contamination from what is now generally termed the Chernobyl disaster spread well beyond the immediate environs of the power plant, and a roughly 1000-square-mile region in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia remains cordoned off, an exclusion zone where human habitation is forbidden.

The radiation spill was a disaster for the environment and its biological inhabitants, but it also created a unique radio-ecological laboratory. University of South Carolina professor of biological sciences Tim Mousseau and longtime collaborator Anders Møller of the CNRS (France) recognized that the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, which comprises areas with a wide range of background radiation levels, was essentially the first place in the world where it would be possible to study the effects of ionizing radiation on animals living in the wild.

Since the atomic bomb was developed during WWII, laboratory testing has been used to assess toxicological effects of ionizing radiation on life, but Mousseau and Møller wanted to examine the effects on free-ranging organisms. In contrast to their laboratory brethren, wild animals have to forage for food and fend for themselves, likely leaving them more vulnerable to new stressors. With that in mind, Mousseau and Møller began studying the natural inhabitants of the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone in 2000. Their scope expanded after Japan's Fukushima disaster in 2011, and they have established the USC Chernobyl + Fukushima Initiative, through which they and colleagues have now published more than 90 peer-reviewed papers.

Their work has shown a wide range of damaging effects to wildlife that result from chronic radiation exposure, even when the exposure is at low levels.

"As a starting point for our studies of animal populations, we took our cue from the medical literature--one of the first effects observed was the presence of cataracts in the eyes of people exposed to energy from atomic bombs," Mousseau says. "And we found that both birds and rodents show elevated frequencies and degree of cataracts in their eyes in the more radioactive areas. Nowadays, we see higher rates of cataracts in flight crews who spend a lot of time in airplanes, which expose them to extra radiation. And people who work in radiology fields are more likely to show increased prevalence and degree of cataract formation in their eyes."

The team also showed that radiation in Chernobyl diminished brain size, increased incidence of tumor formation, affected fertility and increased the prevalence of developmental abnormalities in birds. And the effects on individuals propagated through groups as well. Populations of barn swallows, for example, which were particularly hard hit in Chernobyl, were lower in areas of higher contamination, and Mousseau thinks they likely would have died off without immigration of new individuals from uncontaminated areas.

"That's something we tested. Using an isotopic method that shows geographic origin, we compared feathers of barn swallows in the contaminated areas with museum specimens from before the accident and found much more heterogeneity after the accident," Mousseau says. "Most populations are in some kind of equilibrium, teetering on this balance between the effects of birth and death. If the environment changes for the worse, it pushes them toward extinction, and with all of these negative fitness consequences, that's what we see: the populations pushed to smaller sizes because the deaths were outweighing the births. But secondarily, in many of these populations what we're probably seeing is actually a reflection of births, deaths, and immigration. These populations would be locally extinct if it were not for constant immigration."

And in a recently published paper in Science of the Total Environment, Mousseau and colleagues presented a meta-analysis of oxidative damage resulting from ionizing radiation. Radioactive contamination can have direct effects on, say, chromosomes or DNA, but its energy can also ionize other species in the biological milieu, such as ubiquitous water to form peroxide. The resulting oxidative stress can cause a range of biochemical effects.

"One of the messages coming through our research is that this secondary mechanism through oxidative stress appears to be fairly commonly observed," Mousseau says. "We have many examples now, both from other people's research and our own, that shows that there does appear to be some sort of tradeoff between the quantity of antioxidants in the organism's body and its ability to defend itself against the effects of ionizing radiation."

The protectiveness of antioxidants in the face of ionizing radiation might part of the explanation for why some populations are less susceptible to radioactive contamination than others, Mousseau adds. "Species that can somehow adjust the use of antioxidants may be using this as a means to reduce genetic damage."
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Story Source:
The above post is reprinted from materials provided by University of South Carolina. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.
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Journal Reference:
1. D. Einor, A. Bonisoli-Alquati, D. Costantini, T.A. Mousseau, A.P. Møller. Ionizing radiation, antioxidant response and oxidative damage: A meta-analysis. Science of The Total Environment, 2016; 548-549: 463 DOI: 10.1016/j.scitotenv.2016.01.027


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 29th, 2016, 3:41pm

RSOE EDIS
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=ED-20160419-52982-USA

Situation update at Hanford, Wa.
Apr 29, 2016 updated from Apr 19 and 20 .










Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 1st, 2016, 12:00pm

cool

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." ~
Aldous Huxley

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 1st, 2016, 12:11pm

on May 1st, 2016, 12:00pm, ZETAR wrote:
cool

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." ~
Aldous Huxley

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Situation update May 01, 2016
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=ED-20160419-52982-USA#


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 2nd, 2016, 08:26am



Here is more info about the facility in general.

http://energy.gov/em/hanford-site
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 5th, 2016, 09:18am

http://keprtv.com/news/local/nine-more-hanford-workers-treated-for-vapor-exposure-wednesday

Update.....more workers exposed. Tick...tick...tick...
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 8th, 2016, 11:18pm

https://www.rt.com/usa/342142-radiation-washington-nuclear-site/

http://twitter.com/Yaro_RT/status/728631832800014336/photo/1
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 9th, 2016, 11:31am

Bump

EPA reading radiation spikes at 410 cpm at times.

tick, tick, tick .....not good.

It is now being labeled as "America's Fukushima". undecided
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 21st, 2016, 9:16pm

cool

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on May 21st, 2016, 10:25pm

The Queen was right..

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 22nd, 2016, 08:42am


Is there any latest news on Hanford ?


Here's one of the last seemingly legitimate sources I could find...Earlier in the month....May 4

https://weather.com/news/news/nuclear-waste-leak-continues

Here's one from the middle of the month..."natural"....

https://www.rt.com/usa/343065-hanford-radiation-spike-natural/

undecided

huh

rolleyes


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on May 22nd, 2016, 10:31am

PURR-N-SYS,

TO WIT:

"she's among the new batch of Casebook members" ~ WE'RE HONORED TO PROVIDE DAILY BRIEFINGS FOR HER MAJESTY ~ AS FOR THAT CAT OUT OF THE BAG THING ~ THAT ROYAL FREUDIAN SLIP grin

Freud·i·an slip
noun
noun: Freudian slip; plural noun: Freudian slips

an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.

THE CAT IS PEEKING OUT OF THE BAG...

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ALL TOGETHER NOW grin ~ "The Queen was right"

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on May 22nd, 2016, 2:13pm

It does not matter now..that our shores and skies are poisoned..forces unleashed by sheer ignorance and lack of preparation under the delusion we could harness such without paying an extreme cost later on as evidenced by what we see today. The same Hubris replicated in our financial markets..in our political systems...with the realization too late..that what is enveloping us..cannot be hidden..slowed down..fixed nor repaired..and worse..escape from.



What we can do is rally round the good things left.. ..this Great Lady who speaks from her heart true things....and we should do no less.. if there is but one shard of truth left amid all that is broken and scattered before us....then that will be our epitaph..that we valued that shard above any precious jewel..and with it...saved the day.
God Save The Queen











Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on May 22nd, 2016, 2:33pm

She's a nice lady.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on May 22nd, 2016, 6:04pm

I hope Hal can make it..he has done such a thorough work of demonstrating we have nothing to fear from Fukushima except fear itself..Glad he did not frighten the Queen with any bad news like Hong Kong and the Pacific Rim will not have need for artificial lighting this century.

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Hal.
Good and Loyal Subject.I hope you put in a few good words for us to her Majesty. Word from an anonymous Royal BeefEater was you are set for a Knighthood..
Means I have to call you Sir Hal..takes the fun out..truth be told.
But we can work with it grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on May 25th, 2016, 10:49am

Spent fuel fire on U.S. soil could dwarf impact of Fukushima

By Richard Stone
May. 24, 2016

A fire from spent fuel stored at a U.S. nuclear power plant could have catastrophic consequences, according to new simulations of such an event.

A major fire “could dwarf the horrific consequences of the Fukushima accident,” says Edwin Lyman, a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, a nonprofit in Washington, D.C. “We’re talking about trillion-dollar consequences,” says Frank von Hippel, a nuclear security expert at Princeton University, who teamed with Princeton’s Michael Schoeppner on the modeling exercise.

The revelations come on the heels of a report last week from the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine on the aftermath of the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami in northern Japan. The report details how a spent fuel fire at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant that was crippled by the twin disasters could have released far more radioactivity into the environment.

The nuclear fuel in three of the plant’s six reactors melted down and released radioactive plumes that contaminated land downwind. Japan declared 1100 square kilometers uninhabitable and relocated 88,000 people. (Almost as many left voluntarily.) After the meltdowns, officials feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo. By a stroke of luck, that did not happen.

But the national academies’s report warns that spent fuel accumulating at U.S. nuclear plants is also vulnerable. After fuel is removed from a reactor core, the radioactive fission products continue to decay, generating heat. All nuclear power plants store the fuel onsite at the bottom of deep pools for at least 4 years while it slowly cools. To keep it safe, the academies report recommends that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and nuclear plant operators beef up systems for monitoring the pools and topping up water levels in case a facility is damaged. The panel also says plants should be ready to tighten security after a disaster.

At most U.S. nuclear plants, spent fuel is densely packed in pools, heightening the fire risk. NRC has estimated that a major fire at the spent fuel pool at the Peach Bottom nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania would displace an estimated 3.46 million people from 31,000 square kilometers of contaminated land, an area larger than New Jersey. But Von Hippel and Schoeppner think that NRC has grossly underestimated the scale and societal costs of such a fire.

Read more: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/spent-fuel-fire-us-soil-could-dwarf-impact-fukushima


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 5th, 2016, 09:55am

"What is a scientist after all? It is a curious man looking through a keyhole, the keyhole of nature, trying to know what's going on." ~ "When one man, for whatever reason, has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life, he has no right to keep it to himself." ~ Jacques Yves Cousteau

Jacques Cousteau climbing into his Diving Saucer...
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Japanese gov't withheld report on Chernobyl disaster's health effects

http://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20160604/p2a/00m/0na/006000c

"The Japanese government has withheld an investigative report it compiled on health effects from the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe despite spending 50 million yen on the survey in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, it has been learned."

"The government's investigation into the aftereffects of the Chernobyl disaster began in November 2012 -- the year after the meltdowns at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant -- under the then Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ)-led administration, and was completed in March 2013 after the Liberal Democratic Party returned to power."

"The investigative report denies local documents that confirmed far more serious health hazards from the Chernobyl accident in the former Soviet Union than those recognized by international organizations. An expert familiar with information disclosure points out that the report "should be publicized as a resource for verification from a critical point of view, considering that public money was spent on it" amid sharply divided opinions over nuclear power in Japan."

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"The investigation was budgeted by the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology and was commissioned to a Tokyo-based consulting firm funded by power companies. A committee set up to evaluate the survey results was chaired by Nagasaki University professor emeritus Shigenobu Nagataki, who formerly served as chairman of the Radiation Effects Research Foundation. The investigative team primarily examined and assessed two local reports -- "Twenty-five years after the Chernobyl accident: Safety for the future" and "Chernobyl: Consequences of the catastrophe for people and the environment."

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SHALOM...Z

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 12th, 2016, 11:00am



Go back home now peeps, it's safe, sound, just peachy... rolleyes

Evacuation order lifted for Fukushima residents..... rolleyes

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201606120031.html


Whoa ! Check out the glowing forest ! shocked Like rad dude ! undecided





Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 21st, 2016, 12:11am


Hello Britain.........enjoy the rice !

Hal......... undecided

https://www.rt.com/business/347459-fukushima-rice-japan-meltdown/

Rice to go with that lamb ? sad



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 22nd, 2016, 2:54pm

HMMM...

New Report Exposing Coverup of Fukushima Proves Conspiracy Theorists Right

According to a new report, the Japanese government worked in concert with TEPCO to purposely cover up the meltdown at Fukushima in 2011.

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“I would say it was a coverup,” Tokyo Electric Power Company President Naomi Hirose announced during a press conference. “It’s extremely regrettable.”

"Masataka Shimizu, president of TEPCO at the time of the earthquake, tsunami, and subsequent nuclear disaster, told employees not to go public with the term “meltdown” — allegedly in capitulation to pressure from the Prime Minister’s Office."

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/new-report-exposing-cover-up-of-fukushima-proves-conspiracy-theorists-right.html

"According to the report, Shimizu rushed a note to Vice President Sakae Muto as he held a press conference that warned him against using the word meltdown."

“Considering this fact, it is presumable that the Prime Minister’s Office requested Shimizu to be careful about admitting to a meltdown in public,” the report states, as Japan Times noted."

"Though the three lawyers who authored the report did not find direct evidence, they surmised it was “highly likely” governmental pressure was behind the amelioration of information about the scope of the disaster."

"As CBS News reported, former officials from the Prime Minister’s Office denied all allegations a coverup had taken place. In fact, former government spokesman and current secretary general of the opposition Democratic Party denounced the report as “inadequate and unilateral” — particularly as the lawyer-authors are allied with the current ruling party."

"Attorney Yasuhisa Tanaka, who headed the panel investigation, admitted TEPCO likely didn’t intentionally cover up that a meltdown had occurred, saying,"

“Looking at the situation back then, we think it was too difficult for Tepco to use the term meltdown because even the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency couldn’t use it,” because of pressure from the government, Japan Times noted."

CAUGHT IN THAT LOOP OF...

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"TEPCO remains embroiled in controversy over secrecy and alleged incompetent handling of the cleanup of Fukushima. In February this year, three former TEPCO executives were charged with negligence over the disaster."

SHALOM...Z


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 22nd, 2016, 4:40pm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 22nd, 2016, 9:01pm

CLIFF,

YOU WERE SOOOOO RIGHT!

TO WIT:

"Hello Britain.........enjoy the rice !"

Fukushima rice set to make first EU foray with debut in Britain

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/06/19/national/fukushima-rice-set-to-make-first-eu-foray-with-debut-in-britain/#.V2tCPBL2Yr9

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"Fukushima-harvested rice will hit the stores in Britain in July, which might make it the first member of the EU to import the grain, following a sustained effort by a group of Fukushima natives in London fighting rumors about the safety of the crop."

"It is also the third nation, after Singapore and Malaysia, to import Fukushima rice since the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami caused three reactor meltdowns at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. Starting next month, 1.9 tons of Fukushima rice called Ten no Tsubu will be sold in London. A Fukushima branch of National Federation of Agricultural Cooperative Associations, a Japanese farmers group better known as Zen-Noh, will export the rice via a British trading company."

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EDIT TO ADD:

“I want to help sell Fukushima fruits like cherries, apples and pears in London as well, not just rice,” said Mitsuyama."

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"With the help of Zen-Noh, Mitsuyama’s group started selling Fukushima-made rice, peach and apple juice at the annual Japan Matsuri held at London’s Trafalgar Square three years ago."

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by SuzyQ on Jun 28th, 2016, 4:03pm

I SMELL........ laugh


CATS !!! shocked shocked shocked




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jul 20th, 2016, 09:49am

When Chernobyl drove humans out, wildlife flourished

A new study finds that wildlife in the Chernobyl disaster zone is flourishing, indicating that the presence of humans is more damaging to wildlife than is radiation poisoning

by GrrlScientist for The Guardian

Read more: https://medium.com/@GrrlScientist/when-chernobyl-drove-humans-out-wildlife-flourished-grrlscientist-4a1e69a45f9d#.oa60duxpc


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 20th, 2016, 10:35am

on Jul 20th, 2016, 09:49am, Swamprat wrote:
When Chernobyl drove humans out, wildlife flourished

A new study finds that wildlife in the Chernobyl disaster zone is flourishing, indicating that the presence of humans is more damaging to wildlife than is radiation poisoning

by GrrlScientist for The Guardian

Read more: https://medium.com/@GrrlScientist/when-chernobyl-drove-humans-out-wildlife-flourished-grrlscientist-4a1e69a45f9d#.oa60duxpc



They seem fairly confident......I would like to put their confidence to the test. How about , they go and hunt some of this wildlife, skin it, clean it, and have a big team bar-b-que. cool kiss


Like rad dude ,,,ya know ? undecided

kiss

Alpha....Beta....Gamma....


wink
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jul 20th, 2016, 12:04pm

"they go and hunt some of this wildlife, skin it, clean it, and have a big team bar-b-que. "


Proves my point.

Like I said, "...humans are more dangerous to wildlife than radiation."


grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jul 20th, 2016, 12:57pm

cool

“This study does not address the issue of whether radiation has effects on reproduction, survival, longevity, or general health of the animals surveyed”, Professor Mousseau pointed out.

SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

"Nonetheless, this study indicates that populations of large mammals in the Chernobyl exclusion zone are doing at least as well as those in uncontaminated national parks in the vicinity. But sadly, this study clearly shows that putting a big fence around an area to keep people out is beneficial to wildlife, even if the negative effects of radiation contamination on wildlife —  >>> increased mutation rates, <<< ~ >>> cancers <<< and >>> other abnormalities  <<< — may be masked by this advantage."
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jul 20th, 2016, 9:45pm

TOSS UP ~ TEAM CASEBOOK wink

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The Alan Parsons Project - Games People Play

https://youtu.be/lufxXFXVxqE

Where do we go from here now that all other children are growin' up And how do we spend our lives if there's no-one to lend us a hand

I don't wanna live here no more, I don't wanna stay
Ain't gonna spend the rest of my life, Quietly fading away

Games people play, You take it or you leave it
Things that they say, Honor Brite
If I promise you the Moon and the Stars, Would you believe it
Games people play in the middle of the night

Where do we go from here now that all of the children have grown up
And how do we spend our time knowin' nobody gives us a damn

I don't wanna live here no more, I don't wanna stay
Ain't gonna spend the rest of my life, Quietly fading away

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WE CARE ~ A LA CASEBOOOK CAFE'!


SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 21st, 2016, 07:42am

on Jul 20th, 2016, 12:04pm, Swamprat wrote:
"they go and hunt some of this wildlife, skin it, clean it, and have a big team bar-b-que. "


Proves my point.

Like I said, "...humans are more dangerous to wildlife than radiation."


grin


grin grin grin


cool


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 24th, 2016, 12:18pm

A new word I learned in this thread. Thanks Sys ! grin

Chitin

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chitin


grin



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 25th, 2016, 3:49pm

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UEV-20160721-54185-UKR

MP Andriy Artemenko (Radical Party) has said that on July 16 a serious accident with leakage of nuclear fuel was recorded at Khmelnytsky nuclear power plant (NPP), while the press service of National Nuclear Generating Company Energoatom denied the information. "I learnt from reliable sources that the government is hiding the seriousness of the accident occurred on July 16 at reactor one of Khmelnytsky NPP with the depressurization of the reactor primary circuit and leakage of radioactive coolant to the nuclear steam generator. In addition, nuclear fuel leaked, which is a critical situation," he wrote on his Facebook page. He said that on Monday a meeting with participation of Deputy Prime Minister Volodymyr Kistion and Energy and Coal Industry Minister Ihor Nasalyk was held on Monday to discuss the issue and one more government meeting is scheduled for Thursday. The press service of Energoatom told Interfax-Ukraine that information of Artemenko is not true. He took it from unknown and unverified sources and misinformed citizens, they said. "On July 16, reactor one of Khmelnytsky NPP was disconnected from power grid as there was leakage at nuclear steam generator one, and Energoatom informed about it quickly on its website. This is not leakage of nuclear fuel... Radiation level on the industrial site and adjacent areas have not changed. It is normal for exploitation of reactors," the press service said. Energoatom is the operator of all four Ukrainian-based operating nuclear power plants, which have 15 VVER reactors with an overall generating capacity of 13.835 gigawatts.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 26th, 2016, 1:43pm

on Jul 20th, 2016, 9:45pm, ZETAR wrote:
TOSS UP ~ TEAM CASEBOOK wink

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The Alan Parsons Project - Games People Play

https://youtu.be/lufxXFXVxqE

Where do we go from here now that all other children are growin' up And how do we spend our lives if there's no-one to lend us a hand

I don't wanna live here no more, I don't wanna stay
Ain't gonna spend the rest of my life, Quietly fading away

Games people play, You take it or you leave it
Things that they say, Honor Brite
If I promise you the Moon and the Stars, Would you believe it
Games people play in the middle of the night

Where do we go from here now that all of the children have grown up
And how do we spend our time knowin' nobody gives us a damn

I don't wanna live here no more, I don't wanna stay
Ain't gonna spend the rest of my life, Quietly fading away

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WE CARE ~ A LA CASEBOOOK CAFE'!


SHALOM...Z


From S. Korea grin

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20160722-54198-KOR

Salem... shocked

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20160726-54256-USA

Ukraine kiss

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UEV-20160721-54185-UKR

Russia ... cry

Two employees of the Kalininskaya nuclear power plant suffered an electric shock, one of them died afterwards. As the press office of the Investigative Committee of Russia told Construction.RU on Friday, a criminal case has been initiated for violation of industrial safety rules, causing the death of a person out of negligence (Part 2, Article 143 of Russian Criminal Code). Investigation established that as a result of an electric shock, 34 year old engineer and 28 year old electrician were injured. The shock was so strong that the latter died from sustained bodily injuries nine days after the incident. At present, the investigators are substantiating the fact of what happened and seeking clarification of all factors.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20160722-54200-RUS



Connecticut

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=HZ-20160726-54269-USA

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 30th, 2016, 12:33am

Non-categorized event in India on July 29 2016 02:36 PM (UTC).



Twelve persons were arrested by the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) for allegedly duping people of crores of rupees on the pretext of selling them 'radioactive material' in Rajasthan's Dausa district. "Acting on a tip-off, a team of ATS arrested 12 persons, including two locals Satya Narayan and Ram Ratan, in a raid conducted at a house yesterday in Lavaan village. "A glass box with three partitions containing the suspected radioactive material was seized from their possession and will be tested at Nuclear Power Corporation," ADG ATS and SOG Umesh Mishra said. "The accused, in connivances with some scientists from Delhi, used to dupe people. The accused were arrested yesterday," Manohar Lal, SHO of Lawan police station said, adding, they have been booked under relevant sections of IPC.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UEV-20160729-54316-IND
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jul 30th, 2016, 01:01am

Hmmmmm ..... angry

http://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education//fairewinds-comments-on-the-epas-proposed-changes-to-the-protective-action-guidelines-pag


rolleyes


Meanwhile, at Hanford undecided

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/hanford/article91843017.html



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Aug 6th, 2016, 2:12pm

FUSION VS. FISSION cool




YEP !!! kiss kiss kiss



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Aug 9th, 2016, 09:20am

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But to the greatest of the deceptions being foisted against the Western peoples, this report says, lies in the Obama regime failing to tell its citizens that the United States is now supporting a Japanese government made up of the same vile and racist factions that started World War II—and that took the dropping of the world’s first atomic bombs to defeat.

In fact, this report explains, in July, when President Putin announced that a “state of war” now exists between the Federation and Japan, the MoD detailed how Prime Minister Shinzō Abe was the leader of religious war cult called the Nippon Kaigi whose goal is to gut Japan’s post-war pacifist constitution, end sexual equality, get rid of foreigners, void pesky “human rights” laws, and return Japan to its former Imperial Glory.
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http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2087.htm
Prime Minister Abe, in fact, this report explains, was raised to accomplish this feat by his grandfather, Prime Minister Kishi Nobusuke, who was Japan’s minister of munitions during World War II and was arrested as a war criminal—but never prosecuted and became a founder of the Liberal Democratic Party that now controls the Japanese government.

And in a horrifying turn, this report grimly notes, Prime Minister Abe just this past week was able to appoint as his new Defense Minister Tomomi Inada who, like all members of this religious cult members now controlling Japan, glorifies Japan’s World War II atrocities.

As to why the Obama regime has sided with these religious cult members who believe they can recreate Imperial Japan and conquer Asia, this report concludes, is the American’s belief that only World War III will be able to free them from the trillions of dollars they owe to China—and that they’re risking the fate of the entire world on.
Prime Minister Abe, in fact, this report explains, was raised to accomplish this feat by his grandfather, Prime Minister Kishi Nobusuke, who was Japan’s minister of munitions during World War II and was arrested as a war criminal—but never prosecuted and became a founder of the Liberal Democratic Party that now controls the Japanese government.

And in a horrifying turn, this report grimly notes, Prime Minister Abe just this past week was able to appoint as his new Defense Minister Tomomi Inada who, like all members of this religious cult members now controlling Japan, glorifies Japan’s World War II atrocities.

As to why the Obama regime has sided with these religious cult members who believe they can recreate Imperial Japan and conquer Asia, this report concludes, is the American’s belief that only World War III will be able to free them from the trillions of dollars they owe to China—and that they’re risking the fate of the entire world on.




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Aug 9th, 2016, 11:05am

SHAME on you, Sys! shocked grin cool


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"Sorcha Faal": RationalWiki describes Faal's WhatDoesItMean.com conspiracy site as "sensational" and "outrageous":

Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com.

Each report resembles a news story in its style but usually includes a sensational headline barely related to reality and quotes authoritative high-level Russian sources (such as the Russian Federal Security Service) to support its most outrageous claims. Except for the stuff attributed to unverifiable sources, the reports don't contain much original material. They are usually based on various news items from the mainstream media and/or whatever the clogosphere is currently hyperventilating about, with each item shoehorned into the conspiracy narrative the report is trying to establish.

http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by LoneGunMan on Aug 9th, 2016, 4:12pm

Sorcha Faal is supposed to be like 6 or 7 different ghost writers under that name!

The site is kinda like the bad step brother of The onion!


Lone
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 9th, 2016, 4:16pm

DAVE,

TO WIT:

"Can you trust snopes?
Can you prove the clintons have not infiltrated snopes?"

YEP ~ GOTTA HAND IT TO YOU SIR!

Main Political “Fact” Checker For SNOPES Is FINALLY EXPOSED As Liberal Hack

http://100percentfedup.com/busted-main-political-fact-checker-for-snopes-is-finally-exposed-as-liberal-hack/

"Popular myth-busting website Snopes originally gained recognition for being the go-to site for disproving outlandish urban legends -such as the presence of UFOs in Haiti or the existence of human-animal hybrids in the Amazon jungle."

Recently, however, the site has tried to pose as a political fact-checker. But Snopes’ “fact-checking” looks more like playing defense for prominent Democrats like Hillary Clinton and it’s political “fact-checker” describes herself as a liberal and has called Republicans “regressive” and afraid of “female agency.”

Fact-Checking Snopes: Website’s Political ‘Fact-Checker’ Is Just A Failed Liberal Blogger


http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

"Snopes’ main political fact-checker is a writer named Kim Lacapria. Before writing for Snopes, Lacapria wrote for Inquisitr, a blog that — oddly enough — is known for publishing fake quotes and even downright hoaxes as much as anything else."

"While at Inquisitr, the future “fact-checker” consistently displayed clear partisanship."

SHALOM...Z


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Aug 9th, 2016, 4:38pm

swamp dont't you know thats a cointel site? It doesnt matter whose side.
While the raven and pigeon fight..I steal the bread crumbs
After a while you learn these things.I have a gift people tell me for finding things and sticking my nose where i should not,.Abe is just the Ass he is described as..and the factoid was correct..all the rest is just..feathers grin and if you go to link..you will see this was jut part of the article and only thing I needed..
If I stay with sameo sameo..it will be as if I never left platos cave..
here like finding a 50 dollar bill in a dogpile..I am not ashamed to get a stick and poke it out.. grin grin grin grin

Yah Z snopes is a trip..just like that 50 dollar in the pile.. wink
once these people know you only come to them..they get sloppy..
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Aug 9th, 2016, 6:31pm

Okey Dokey, let's forget about that nasty Snopes! Sigh..... kiss


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_booth.htm

http://www.beaconoftruth.com/sorcha-faal.htm

https://www.facebook.com/204288706256003/posts/736364526381749

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2011/09/25/sorcha-faal-continues-to-fool-the-unwary/

http://www.mgr.org/AboutSorchaFaal.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread304918/pg1

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sorchafaaldisinfo15mar08.shtml

http://www.veronicachapman.com/vlinks/AsOfRachal.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/sorcha-faal-david-booth-dutchsinse.t204/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/blogs/ethan-allen-and-his-green-mountain-boys/15/06/03/warning-warning-eu-times-and-sorcha-faal

http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1550-Sorcha-Faal-Disinformation-Agent

___ grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Aug 10th, 2016, 3:00pm



kiss




Please turn off your lights.....

"They might see you". kiss


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Aug 26th, 2016, 10:17pm

Radiation in Fukushima was so bad, they couldn’t afford to send people into some places. It turns out, the radiation was so high that even the chrome-domed replacements didn’t fare much better.

http://fukushimaupdate.com/radiation-so-high-at-fukushima-tepcos-robots-cant-survive/

The solution? Robots. The problem? Robots.

"“It takes two years to develop a single-function robot,” Masuda said.

As soon as TEPCO’s robots, co-designed with Toshiba, get close to Reactor 3, their circuitry gets destroyed by the radiation. The robots are designed to “swim” in the radiated pools where the radioactive fuel rods are located, to search for and recover them.

The robots are unable to enter Reactor 3 because of the concentrated levels of radiation compared to the lesser toxic Reactor 4, where 1,535 fuel rod assemblies had previously been removed."


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SHALOM...ZZZ

EDIT TO ADD:

Imagine Dragons - Radioactive

https://youtu.be/X9IGXlxGob0

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I'm waking up, I feel it in my bones
Enough to make my systems blow
Welcome to the new age, to the new age
Welcome to the new age, to the new age
Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, whoa, oh, oh, oh, I'm radioactive, radioactive
Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, whoa, oh, oh, oh, I'm radioactive, radioactive


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Welcome to the new age, to the new age
Welcome to the new age, to the new age

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Sep 9th, 2016, 12:15pm


Lil kim has been stayin' busy.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/north-korea-earthquake-believed-nuclear-test-010528159.html


rolleyes
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Sep 15th, 2016, 08:19am

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"Lil kim has been stayin' busy."

YOU ARE INDEED CORRECT ~ LET'S ADD THAT ~ TO THE MOTION IN THE OCEAN

Fukushima Accident Fallout

Global deposition of Cs-137 radionuclides from the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident.

http://vislab.cyi.ac.cy/portfolio/fukushima-fallout/

"We modeled the global atmospheric dispersion and deposition of radionuclides released from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant accident. The EMAC atmospheric chemistry – general circulation model was used, with circulation dynamics nudged towards ERA-Interim reanalysis data. We applied a resolution of approximately 0.5 degrees in latitude and longitude (T255). The model accounts for emissions and transport of the radioactive isotopes 131I and 137Cs, and removal processes through precipitation, particle sedimentation and dry deposition. In addition, we simulated the release of 133Xe, a noble gas that can be regarded as a passive transport tracer of contaminated air."

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SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Sep 15th, 2016, 08:32am

wow lipsrsealed
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Sep 21st, 2016, 10:21am

Risk of another Chernobyl or Fukushima type accident plausible, experts say

Date: September 19, 2016
Source: University of Sussex

A team of risk experts who have carried out the biggest-ever analysis of nuclear accidents warn that the next disaster on the scale of Chernobyl or Fukushima may happen much sooner than the public realizes.

Researchers at the University of Sussex, in England, and ETH Zurich, in Switzerland, have analysed more than 200 nuclear accidents, and -- estimating and controlling for effects of industry responses to previous disasters -- provide a grim assessment of the risk of nuclear power.

Their worrying conclusion is that, while nuclear accidents have substantially decreased in frequency, this has been accomplished by the suppression of moderate-to-large events. They estimate that Fukushima- and Chernobyl-scale disasters are still more likely than not once or twice per century, and that accidents on the scale of the 1979 meltdown at Three Mile Island in the USA (a damage cost of about 10 Billion USD) are more likely than not to occur every 10-20 years.

As Dr Spencer Wheatley, the lead author, explains: "We have found that the risk level for nuclear power is extremely high.

"Although we were able to detect the positive impact of the industry responses to accidents such as Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, these did not sufficiently remove the possibility of extreme disasters such as Fukushima. To remove such a possibility would likely require enormous changes to the current fleet of reactors, which is predominantly second-generation technology."

The studies, published in two papers in the journals Energy Research & Social Scienceand Risk Analysis, put fresh pressure on the nuclear industry to be more transparent with data on incidents.

"Flawed and woefully incomplete" public data from the nuclear industry is leading to an over-confident attitude to risk, the study warns. The research team points to the fact that their own independent analysis contains three times as much data as that provided publicly by the industry itself. This is probably because the International Atomic Energy Agency, which compiles the reports, has a dual role of regulating the sector and promoting it.

The research team for this new study gathered their data from reports, academic papers, press releases, public documents and newspaper articles. The result is a dataset that is unprecedented -- being twice the size of the next largest independent analysis. Further, the authors emphasize that the dataset is an important resource that needs to be continually developed and shared with the public.

Professor Benjamin Sovacool of the Sussex Energy Group at the University of Sussex, who co-authored the studies, says: "Our results are sobering. They suggest that the standard methodology used by the International Atomic Energy Agency to predict accidents and incidents -- particularly when focusing on consequences of extreme events -- is problematic.

"The next nuclear accident may be much sooner or more severe than the public realizes."

The team also call for a fundamental rethink of how accidents are rated, arguing that the current method (the discrete seven-point INES scale) is highly imprecise, poorly defined, and often inconsistent.

In their new analysis, the research team provides a cost in US dollars for each incident, taking into account factors such as destruction of property, the cost of emergency response, environmental remediation, evacuation, fines, and insurance claims. And for each death, they added a cost of $6 million, which is the figure used by the US government to calculate the value of a human life.

That new analysis showed that the Fukushima accident in 2011 and the Chernobyl accident in 1986 cost a combined $425 billion -- five times the sum of all the other events put together.

However, these two extremes are rated 7 -- the maximum severity level -- on the INES scale. Fukushima alone would need a score of between 10 and 11 to represent the true magnitude of consequences.

Further, the authors emphasize that such frequency-severity statistical analysis of holistic consequences should be used as a complementary tool to the industry standard Probabilistic Safety Assessment, especially when aggregate consequences are of interest.

Professor Sovacool adds: "The results suggest that catastrophic accidents such as Chernobyl and Fukushima are not relics of the past.

"Even if we introduce new nuclear technology, as long as older facilities remain operational -- likely, given recent trends to extend permits and relicense existing reactors -- their risks, and the aggregate risk of operating the global nuclear fleet, remain."

Finally, the authors emphasize that this work is not comparative in nature, i.e. it does not quantify the risks of other energy sources. It provides a risk assessment for nuclear power alone, thus informing a single criterion, for a single power source, in the selection of a portfolio of multiple power sources, where many criteria must be considered.

Fellow co-author Professor Didier Sornette stresses: "While our studies seem damning of the nuclear industry, other considerations and potential for improvement may actually make nuclear energy attractive in the future."

The 15 most costly nuclear events analysed by the team are:
1. Chernobyl, Ukraine (1986) -- $259 billion
2. Fukushima, Japan (2011) -- $166 billion
3. Tsuruga, Japan (1995) -- $15.5 billion
4. TMI, Pennsylvania, USA (1979) -- $11 billion
5. Beloyarsk, USSR (1977) -- $3.5 billion
6. Sellafield, UK (1969) -- $2.5 billion
7. Athens, Alabama, USA (1985) -- $2.1 billion
8. Jaslovske Bohunice, Czechoslovakia (1977) -- $2 billion
9. Sellafield, UK (1968) -- $1.9 billion
10. Sellafield, UK (1971) -- $1.3 billion
11. Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA (1986) -- $1.2 billion
12. Chapelcross, UK (1967) -- $1.1 billion
13. Chernobyl, Ukraine (1982) -- $1.1 billion
14. Pickering, Canada (1983) -- $1 billion
15. Sellafield, UK (1973) -- $1 billion
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Story Source:
The above post is reprinted from materials provided by University of Sussex. Note: Content may be edited for style and length.
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Journal References:
1. Spencer Wheatley, Benjamin K. Sovacool, Didier Sornette. Reassessing the safety of nuclear power. Energy Research & Social Science, 2016; 15: 96 DOI: 10.1016/j.erss.2015.12.026
2. Spencer Wheatley, Benjamin Sovacool, Didier Sornette. Of Disasters and Dragon Kings: A Statistical Analysis of Nuclear Power Incidents and Accidents. Risk Analysis, 2016; DOI: 10.1111/risa.12587


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Sep 21st, 2016, 9:31pm

Swamp

Environment Pollution in USA
on September 17 2016 03:26 AM (UTC).

A sinkhole spanning 45 feet in diameter opened at a Mosaic Co phosphate fertilizer facility in Florida, leaking

215 million gallons of "slightly radioactive water,"


a company spokesman said on Friday. Mosaic said the monitoring system at its New Wales facility at Mulberry, Fla., showed a decline in water levels on Aug. 27 from the retention pond of a phosphogypsum stack, a hill of hazardous waste. Phosphogypsum is a radioactive byproduct resulting from the production of phosphate. The Plymouth, Minn.-based company immediately reported the incident to state and federal environmental authorities, Mosaic spokesman Ben Pratt said on Friday. But it did not otherwise report it publicly until posting information on its website on Thursday. The leaked water is enough to fill more than 300 Olympic swimming pools.

The nearly three-week gap between detecting the sinkhole and reporting it to the public is alarming,

said Jacki Lopez, Florida director of the Center for Biological Diversity. "It's hard to trust them when they say 'Don't worry,' when they've been keeping it secret for three weeks," she said. The sinkhole, located about 30 miles from Tampa, damaged the liner system at the base of the stack, causing the pond on top to drain. Seepage continued and the sinkhole reached Florida's aquifer, Mosaic said on its website.

Specific environmental and health concerns are the release of URANIUM, RADIUM and RADON gas, Lopez said.


Once contaminants reach the aquifer, which extends from central Florida to Georgia, they can potentially travel hundreds of miles, she said. "We don't know what the long-term effects will be," Lopez said. "If I were living in this area, and I had well water, I would be worried about my health." Mosaic said it had increased monitoring and sampling of groundwater and found no offsite impact. It also said it pumped water out of the affected pond to reduce the volume of leakage. The company said it is attempting to recover the water through production wells on site. The incident has not interrupted operations at the facility.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20160917-55059-USA

Environment Pollution in USA
on September 17 2016 03:26 AM (UTC).

Situation Update No. 1
on September 18 2016 04:07 AM (UTC)

Concerns over contaminated wells prompted a handful of protesters to gather in front of Mulberry City Hall. They held signs, hoping to hold the Mosaic Corporation accountable. Last week, we learned a sinkhole opened up beneath a company-owned gypsum stack on August 27 and sucked 215 million gallons of slightly radioactive water into the Florida aquifer. Some are worried that contaminated water will make its way into their private wells. Jessica Broadbent lives a few miles from where the sinkhole swallowed all of that water. "It's going into our water supply," she said. "It affecting our children. Our children's children, eventually, our community. It affects our environment." She adds she is concerned about the lapse in time between when the sinkhole opened, and when the public was made aware of the issue. "Oh, I'm very upset about that," she said. "I think there should've been a hundred percent transparency. The minute there's a leak, a sinkhole, whatever the case may be, there needs to be immediate community involvement and understanding so that there can be transparency. So it doesn't look like a cover up because that's what it looks like." Lee Cole drove to Mulberry from his home in Lake County just north of Orlando. While he's not personally affected by the incident, he wonders what the long term affects will be. "They need transparency," Cole said. "I'm concerned for your children's health. And that should be it. We should all be out there holding Mosaic responsible. Having them do their best to clean this up." Mosaic company representatives contend they have wells to capture the contaminated water. Bruce Mullins wonders, how that works. "If you drop 215 million gallons of water into a moving body of water, how in the world are you going to reclaim even a good portion of that much less any of it?" Mullins said. "I would like to see the science behind that and how they can prove that they have reclaimed this water."

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=ED-20160917-55059-USA

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Sep 21st, 2016, 9:48pm

Yep, I've been watching that, Cliff. Absolutely horrific and unforgivable!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Sep 22nd, 2016, 10:40am

on Sep 21st, 2016, 9:48pm, Swamprat wrote:
Yep, I've been watching that, Cliff. Absolutely horrific and unforgivable!


Yep.

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rolleyes

They should have notified the public !!!!!


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Sep 22nd, 2016, 11:22am

User ImageThis aerial photo from Friday shows a massive sinkhole in Mulberry in Polk County, Florida, that opened up underneath a gypsum stack at a Mosaic phosphate fertilizer plant. Tens of millions of gallons of reprocessed water from the fertilizer plant in central Florida are likely to have seeped into the Floridan aquifer. (Jim Damaske/Tampa Bay Times via AP)


http://www.wuft.org/news/2016/09/20/concerns-continue-over-polk-county-phosphate-sinkhole/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by SuzyQ on Sep 22nd, 2016, 12:23pm

on Sep 21st, 2016, 9:31pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Swamp

Environment Pollution in USA
on September 17 2016 03:26 AM (UTC).

A sinkhole spanning 45 feet in diameter opened at a Mosaic Co phosphate fertilizer facility in Florida, leaking

215 million gallons of "slightly radioactive water,"


a company spokesman said on Friday. Mosaic said the monitoring system at its New Wales facility at Mulberry, Fla., showed a decline in water levels on Aug. 27 from the retention pond of a phosphogypsum stack, a hill of hazardous waste. Phosphogypsum is a radioactive byproduct resulting from the production of phosphate. The Plymouth, Minn.-based company immediately reported the incident to state and federal environmental authorities, Mosaic spokesman Ben Pratt said on Friday. But it did not otherwise report it publicly until posting information on its website on Thursday. The leaked water is enough to fill more than 300 Olympic swimming pools.

The nearly three-week gap between detecting the sinkhole and reporting it to the public is alarming,

said Jacki Lopez, Florida director of the Center for Biological Diversity. "It's hard to trust them when they say 'Don't worry,' when they've been keeping it secret for three weeks," she said. The sinkhole, located about 30 miles from Tampa, damaged the liner system at the base of the stack, causing the pond on top to drain. Seepage continued and the sinkhole reached Florida's aquifer, Mosaic said on its website.

Specific environmental and health concerns are the release of URANIUM, RADIUM and RADON gas, Lopez said.


Once contaminants reach the aquifer, which extends from central Florida to Georgia, they can potentially travel hundreds of miles, she said. "We don't know what the long-term effects will be," Lopez said. "If I were living in this area, and I had well water, I would be worried about my health." Mosaic said it had increased monitoring and sampling of groundwater and found no offsite impact. It also said it pumped water out of the affected pond to reduce the volume of leakage. The company said it is attempting to recover the water through production wells on site. The incident has not interrupted operations at the facility.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20160917-55059-USA

Environment Pollution in USA
on September 17 2016 03:26 AM (UTC).

Situation Update No. 1
on September 18 2016 04:07 AM (UTC)

Concerns over contaminated wells prompted a handful of protesters to gather in front of Mulberry City Hall. They held signs, hoping to hold the Mosaic Corporation accountable. Last week, we learned a sinkhole opened up beneath a company-owned gypsum stack on August 27 and sucked 215 million gallons of slightly radioactive water into the Florida aquifer. Some are worried that contaminated water will make its way into their private wells. Jessica Broadbent lives a few miles from where the sinkhole swallowed all of that water. "It's going into our water supply," she said. "It affecting our children. Our children's children, eventually, our community. It affects our environment." She adds she is concerned about the lapse in time between when the sinkhole opened, and when the public was made aware of the issue. "Oh, I'm very upset about that," she said. "I think there should've been a hundred percent transparency. The minute there's a leak, a sinkhole, whatever the case may be, there needs to be immediate community involvement and understanding so that there can be transparency. So it doesn't look like a cover up because that's what it looks like." Lee Cole drove to Mulberry from his home in Lake County just north of Orlando. While he's not personally affected by the incident, he wonders what the long term affects will be. "They need transparency," Cole said. "I'm concerned for your children's health. And that should be it. We should all be out there holding Mosaic responsible. Having them do their best to clean this up." Mosaic company representatives contend they have wells to capture the contaminated water. Bruce Mullins wonders, how that works. "If you drop 215 million gallons of water into a moving body of water, how in the world are you going to reclaim even a good portion of that much less any of it?" Mullins said. "I would like to see the science behind that and how they can prove that they have reclaimed this water."

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=ED-20160917-55059-USA

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Why didn't the elected officials or company notify the public for a 3 week span ? This aquafier spans from Florida to Georgia.

There are 4 of these facilities in the State of Florida...

embarassed

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Sep 24th, 2016, 09:02am

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SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Sep 24th, 2016, 10:25am

This Is What’s Happened To Bikini Atoll In The 70 Years Since Its First Devastating Nuclear Test

http://scribol.com/anthropology-and-history/bikini-atoll-since-first-devastating-nuclear-test/?utm_source=hexagram_Facebook3933&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=bikini-atoll-since-first-devastating-nuclear-test&utm_content=US-Desktop-PST

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Sep 27th, 2016, 12:34pm

OK, you can worry about Hillary, you can worry about Donald, you can worry about Obama, you can worry about ISIS, you can worry about Vladimir, you can even worry about Kim Jong-un....., but MAYBE, just maybe, you oughta worry about THIS:


3 Million a Year--Dead World-Wide


China tops WHO list for deadly outdoor air pollution

More than 1 million Chinese people died from dirty air in one year, according to World Health Organisation


Adam Vaughan
Tuesday 27 September 2016

China is the world’s deadliest country for outdoor air pollution, according to analysis by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

The UN agency has previously warned that tiny particulates from cars, power plants and other sources are killing 3 million people worldwide each year.

For the first time the WHO has broken down that figure to a country-by-country level. It reveals that of the worst three nations, more than 1 million people died from dirty air in China in 2012, at least 600,000 in India and more than 140,000 in Russia.

At 25th out of 184 countries with data, the UK ranks worse than France, with 16,355 deaths in 2012 versus 10,954, but not as poorly as Germany at 26,160, which has more industry and 16 million more people. Australia had 94 deaths and 38,043 died in the US that year from particulate pollution.

Maria Neria, director of the WHO’s public health and the environment department, told the Guardian: “Countries are confronted with the reality of better data. Now we have the figures of how many citizens are dying from air pollution. What we are learning is, this is very bad. Now there are no excuses for not taking action.”

Gavin Shaddick, who led the international team that put together the data, said: “Globally, air pollution presents a major risk to public health and a substantial number of lives could be saved if levels of air pollution were reduced.”

In the UK more than 90% of the population lives in areas with levels of PM2.5s above the WHO’s air-quality limits of 10 micrograms per cubic metre for the annual mean. The government is in the high court on 18 and 19 October facing a legal challenge by environmental law group ClientEarth, which says ministers’ clean-up plans for another pollutant – nitrogen dioxide – are inadequate.

Globally, 92% of the population breathes air that breaches WHO limits but the world map of deaths caused by PM2.5s changes when looked at per capita. When ranked by the number of deaths for every 100,000 people, Ukraine jumps to the top of the list at 120.

It is followed by eastern European and former Soviet states, and Russia itself, probably due to a legacy of heavy industry in the region. China drops down to 10th, at 76 per 100,000, and India falls to 27th, with 49 per 100,000.

Air pollution in the Ukraine caused four times more deaths per capita than the five cleanest countries combined.

Most of the air pollution comes from cars, coal-fired plants and waste burning but not all of it is created by humans. Dust storms in places close to deserts also contribute to dirty air, explaining partly why Iran is at 16th highest for total deaths, at 26,000 a year.

Most of the total deaths worldwide – two out of three – occur in south-east Asia and the western Pacific, which includes China, Vietnam, Japan, Australia, South Korea and small Pacific island states.

Shaddick said: “We might think of [pollution in] Beijing as being very high, but when you fill in the gaps between the big [Chinese] cities, [air pollution in] regions [is] remarkably high compared to the WHO limits [10 grams per cubic metre for the annual mean], up in the 50s and 60s. That’s something we in the west can’t even comprehend. That was probably a bit of a shock [to me].”

Anne Hidalgo, mayor of Paris and chair-elect of a network of cities combating climate change, said: “Fighting pollution is one of my top priorities as mayor of Paris. It is a vital public health issue and all mayors should take on their responsibility to deliver bold actions.”

The city of Paris voted on Monday to ban cars along a stretch of the river Seine to cut pollution, defeating a minority rightwing opposition.

Hidalgo added: “I have said it before and am saying it again: we cannot negotiate with Parisians’ health.”

Neira said Canada and Scandinavian countries deserved praise for curbing air pollution and singled out France too. “France is taking a lot of action, Paris is taking aggressive measures: aggressive in the good sense. [It] maybe unpopular because it’s for the health of people but they are putting some restrictions on individuals. We all need to understand this is a matter of public health,” she said.

See charts at:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/27/more-than-million-died-due-air-pollution-china-one-year

...and if you want all 121 pages of detail:
http://www.who.int/phe/publications/air-pollution-global-assessment/en/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Oct 2nd, 2016, 2:32pm

Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (And It's Going To Get Worse)
http://www.trueactivist.com/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-the-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-to-get-worse/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=AM&utm_content=fukushimaradiationhascontaminatedtheentirepacificoceananditsgoingtogetworse

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What was the most dangerous nuclear disaster in world history? Most people would say the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in Ukraine, but they’d be wrong. In 2011, an earthquake, believed to be an aftershock of the 2010 earthquake in Chile, created a tsunami that caused a meltdown at the TEPCO nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan. Three nuclear reactors melted down and what happened next was the largest release of radiation into the water in the history of the world. Over the next three months, radioactive chemicals, some in even greater quantities than Chernobyl, leaked into the Pacific Ocean. However, the numbers may actually be much higher as Japanese official estimates have been proven by several scientists to be flawed in recent years.
fukushima-debris-island

Radioactive Debris from Fukushima approaching North America’s western coast Credit – RT

If that weren’t bad enough, Fukushima continues to leak an astounding 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean every day. It will continue do so indefinitely as the source of the leak cannot be sealed as it is inaccessible to both humans and robots due to extremely high temperatures.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Fukushima has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean in just five years. This could easily be the worst environmental disaster in human history and it is almost never talked about by politicians, establishment scientists, or the news. It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary of General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years. Not long after Fukushima, fish in Canada began bleeding from their gills, mouths, and eyeballs. This “disease” has been ignored by the government and has decimated native fish populations, including the North Pacific herring. Elsewhere in Western Canada, independent scientists have measured a 300% increase in the level of radiation. According to them, the amount of radiation in the Pacific Ocean is increasing every year. Why is this being ignored by the mainstream media? It might have something to do with the fact that the US and Canadian governments have banned their citizens from talking about Fukushima so “people don’t panic.”
dead-starfish

Credit – AP

Further south in Oregon, USA, starfish began losing legs and then disintegrating entirely when Fukushima radiation arrived there in 2013. Now, they are dying in record amounts, putting the entire oceanic ecosystem in that area at risk. However, government officials say Fukushima is not to blame even though radiation in Oregon tuna tripled after Fukushima. In 2014, radiation on California beaches increased by 500 percent. In response, government officials said that the radiation was coming from a mysterious “unknown” source and was nothing to worry about.

However, Fukushima is having a bigger impact than just the West coast of North America. Scientists are now saying that the Pacific Ocean is already radioactive and is currently at least 5-10 times more radioactive than when the US government dropped numerous nuclear bombs in the Pacific during and after World War II. If we don’t start talking about Fukushima soon, we could all be in for a very unpleasant surprise.
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:27pm

Don't you think it a bit odd that the radiation meters along the Pacific North West are no showing any increase ?

They are pretty much the same as they have been for the last two years.

Even the highest readings as found In Boulder are the same hi(ish) reading they were.

Nothing is showing this increase mentioned.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:42pm

truth be told Hal...I liked the pretty colors on the map.
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:28pm

HAL,

TO WIT:

"Nothing is showing this increase mentioned."

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The definition of in denial is a refusal or unwillingness to accept something or to accept reality.

OR

Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

HAL...I KNOW UR SCHMARTER THAN A TENTH GRADER

School Science Project Reveals High Levels Of Fukushima Nuclear Radiation in Grocery Store Seafood

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/school-science-project-reveals-high-levels-of-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-in-grocery-store-seafood

A Canadian high school student named Bronwyn Delacruz never imagined that her school science project would make headlines all over the world. But that is precisely what has happened. Using a $600 Geiger counter purchased by her father, Delacruz measured seafood bought at local grocery stores for radioactive contamination. What she discovered was absolutely stunning. Much of the seafood, particularly the products that were made in China, tested very high for radiation. So is this being caused by nuclear radiation from Fukushima? Is the seafood that we are eating going to give us cancer and other diseases? The American people deserve the truth, but as you will see below, the U.S. and Canadian governments are not even testing imported seafood for radiation. To say that this is deeply troubling would be a massive understatement.

THAR SHE BLOWS!!!

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The Japanese are doing testing off the coast of Japan, and one fish that was recently caught off the coast of the Fukushima prefecture was discovered to have 124 times the safe level of radioactive cesium.

So why are all the authorities in North America just assuming that the fish are going to be perfectly fine on this side of the Pacific?

One test that was conducted in California discovered that 15 out of 15 Bluefin tuna were contaminated with radiation from Fukushima.

So how can the authorities say “don’t worry, just eat the seafood”?

Everyone agrees that a plume of radioactive water has been moving from Fukushima toward the west coast of the United States.


HMMM...I GUESS IT'S ALL ABOUT CONNECTING THE DOTS

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And multiple independent tests have already confirmed that levels of nuclear radiation are being detected on California beaches that are more than 10 times the normal level.


Clearly something is happening.

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:32pm

I know nothing about many things, this is one of them, when I try to learn,
there seems to be more confliction than me learning anything.
Did find this interesting.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/17/live-real-time-monitoring-map-of-radiation-counts-in-the-usa/

Does anyone remember when the climate change talk started?

This seems more of a issue, than anything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGR_1806-20

Maybe you brainEacts can fill me in.

undecided
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by GhostofEd on Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:44pm

on Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:27pm, INT21 wrote:
Don't you think it a bit odd that the radiation meters along the Pacific North West are no showing any increase ?

They are pretty much the same as they have been for the last two years.

Even the highest readings as found In Boulder are the same hi(ish) reading they were.

Nothing is showing this increase mentioned.

HAL
INT21


From the link:

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years.

What does this mean? If you can't see (or measure it?) then is it there? Also, is that a map of radiation levels or something else? What are CM's? (centimeters?) I see this map being used on several sites possibly misrepresenting it and I have a suspicion it refers to tsunami wave height.
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:01pm

Gentlemen..Gentlemen....now I am quite willing to concede that the article i posted was a tad lacking in specific data that we can apply our unsurpassed math skills to determine contamination spread, evaporation into the air then carried faster to land, solubility rates etc to make some reasonable assessment..what do we know for sure..that cesium 134 has a half life of years..that means 4 years to completely decompose to something else.so instead of one gram of cesium 134..its only .5 m .cesium 137 on the other had..has a half life of 30 years..meaning 60 years to circulate nicely and make its self available for absorption or ingestion, the latter the most dangerous...the primary source has not stopped putting it out for the last 5 years....we never knew where this was going because the currents were never really know until they became radioactive..and the material acted like a toxic dye..
I mentioned ingestion..lets try..inhalation..externally..imagine putting hands over nice warm coals..now imagine inhaling hot embers from the same coal..that's the difference..
Surely this is a far fetched unlikely possibility..no its not..some of the cesium has been found non soluble..and therefore physically persistent rather dissipating..or dissolution.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/06/160627095015.htm?trendmd-shared=0
New research shows that most of the radioactive fallout which landed on downtown Tokyo a few days after the Fukushima accident was concentrated and deposited in non-soluble glass microparticles, as a type of 'glassy soot'. This meant that most of the radioactive material was not dissolved in rain and running water, and probably stayed in the environment until removed by direct washing or physical removal. The particles also concentrated the radioactive caesium (Cs), meaning that in some cases dose effects of the fallout are still unclear. These results are announced at the Goldschmidt geochemistry conference in Yokohama, Japan.

The flooding of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (FDNPP) after the disastrous earthquake on March 11 2011 caused the release of significant amounts of radioactive material, including caesium (Cs) isotopes 134Cs (half-life, 2 years) and 137Cs (half-life, 30 years).

Japanese geochemists, headed by Dr Satoshi Utsunomiya (Kyushu University, Japan), analysed samples collected from within an area up to 230 km from the FDNPP. As caesium is water-soluble, it had been anticipated that most of the radioactive fallout would have been flushed from the environment by rainwater. However, analysis with state-of-the-art electron microscopy in conjunction with autoradiography techniques showed that most of the radioactive caesium in fact fell to the ground enclosed in glassy microparticles, formed at the time of the reactor meltdown.

The analysis shows that these particles mainly consist of Fe-Zn-oxides nanoparticles, which, along with the caesium were embedded in Si oxide glass that formed during the molten core-concrete interaction inside the primary containment vessel in the Fukushima reactor units 1 and/or 3. Because of the high Cs content in the microparticles, the radioactivity per unit mass was as high as ~4.4x1011 Bq/g, which is between 107 and 108 times higher than the background Cs radioactivity per unit mass of the typical soils in Fukushima.

Closer microparticle structural and geochemical analysis also revealed what happened during the accident at FDNPP. Radioactive Cs was released and formed airborne Cs nanoparticles. Nuclear fuel, at temperatures of above 2200 K (about as hot as a blowtorch), melted the reactor pressure vessel resulting in failure of the vessel. The airborne Cs nanoparticles were condensed along with the Fe-Zn nanoparticles and the gas from the molten concrete, to form the SiO2 glass nanoparticles, which were then dispersed.

Analysis from several air filters collected in Tokyo on 15 March 2011 showed that 89% of the total radioactivity was present as a result of these caesium-rich microparticles, rather than the soluble Cs, as had originally been supposed.

According to Dr Satoshi Utsunomiya; "This work changes some of our assumptions about the Fukushima fallout. It looks like the clean-up procedure, which consisted of washing and removal of top soils, was the correct thing to do. However, the concentration of radioactive caesium in microparticles means that, at an extremely localised and focused level, the radioactive fallout may have been more (or less) concentrated than anticipated. This may mean that our ideas of the health implications should be modified."

Commenting, Prof. Bernd Grambow, Director of SUBATECH laboratory, Nantes, France and leader of the research group on interfacial reaction field chemistry of the ASRC/JAEA, Tokai, Japan, said:

"The leading edge observations by nano-science facilities presented here are extremely important. They may change our understanding of the mechanism of long range atmospheric mass transfer of radioactive caesium from the reactor accident at Fukushima to Tokyo, but they may also change the way we assess inhalation doses from the caesium microparticles inhaled by humans. Indeed, biological half- lives of insoluble caesium particles might be much larger than that of soluble caesium."

that means these particulates were ingested/inhaled by birds, fish, dolphins, humans..
The initial assumptions were wrong..and the cavalier it will all go away predictions are probably skewed and if not off completely and at least 3 years too late...There will not be enough Obamacare in the universe to cover whats about to rear its head in our direction.

I rest my case

wink
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Post by ZETAR on Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:26pm

cool

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." ~ Saul Bellow


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TO WIT:

"that means these particulates were ingested/inhaled by birds, fish, dolphins, humans..
The initial assumptions were wrong..and the cavalier it will all go away predictions are probably skewed and if not off completely and at least 3 years too late...There will not be enough Obamacare in the universe to cover whats about to rear its head in our direction."


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Post by Sys_Config on Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:34pm

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I am changing everyones seats and I want you young Hal to sit as far away from that insufferable horse as possible and stop disrupting my class.I have a month before retirement and I don't need you giving me a heart infarction before then with your fancy backtalk.
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Post by ZETAR on Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:59pm

grin

The Giant Behemoth

The dumping of radioactive waste off the shores of Cornwall, England, awakens a prehistoric monster than can project electric shocks and radioactive beams, whereupon it makes its way towards London.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giant_Behemoth

American scientist Steve Karnes (Gene Evans) delivers a speech to a British scientific society, headed by Professor James Bickford (André Morell), about the dangers to marine life posed by nuclear testing. Before Karnes can return to the U.S., a real-life example of his concern materializes when Tom Trevethan (Henri Vidon), an old fisherman, receives a lethal dose of radiation; his dying word is "behemoth". Later thousands of dead fish are washed ashore.

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Post by Sys_Config on Oct 2nd, 2016, 8:20pm

i remember that..an gorgon..behemoth had an ancient disease too..no wonder Elon wants to get off the planet.. shocked
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Post by INT21 on Oct 3rd, 2016, 06:14am

A long, long time ago I was taking a course at a local college that required me do do some research into the effects upon people of the lead in vehicle exhaust. It was all about the tetra ethyl lead used to reduce 'knocking' in the higher compression engines.

And a strange thing way discovered.

People living along the UK's West coast were found to have more lead in their blood than those living in cities. This was odd as there are many fewer cars in the coastal areas than in the crowded towns.

Also it was found that the level increased when the wind was from the West.

It was found to be caused by the lead in human waste (Shitskey(Z), if you must) that was being dumped (no pun intended) into the Irish Sea. The sea water was causing the lead to be extracted from this waste and the wind then carried it inland.

So all one needs to do is do a big survey of the Cesium content of Californians and then you have a reasonable basis on which to form an opinion.

Of course, there may be some cross-contamination with other chemicals that will need to be taken into consideration.

Maybe do the same around Hanford.

We see many programs on tv that show the more popular scientists testing various foods and cosmetic products. Why not for radiation contamination.

Mind you, if it turned out that say, Maine lobsters were routinely found to be contaminated, would 'they' tell you ?

Trump is quite prepared to re-open the coal fields to get a few votes, even if the pollution would be horrendous. Would they kill the lobster industry if it was found to be unsafe ?

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MrGort on Oct 3rd, 2016, 07:08am

on Oct 3rd, 2016, 06:14am, INT21 wrote:
Mind you, if it turned out that say, Maine lobsters were routinely found to be contaminated, would 'they' tell you ?


HAL
INT21


NO



Maine lobster actually have a high mercury content. Contrary to popular belief the Mercury is not from environmental pollution but natural. Like many bio hazards, long-lived critters tend to bioacumulate. However, since it’s (lobster) very expensive, and considered a luxury item most people cannot afford it nor is it a staple diet. For this reason, it is not considered a public health risk. Other public concerns besides lead (bullets and paint) are asbestos, less well-known (to the public) are VOCs in car paint, and even cigarette smoking the heat of which can produce radioactive nucleotides, consequently when collected by cilia as phlegm in the trachea can be the equivalent of a constant x-ray,(lung cancer) and a host of many other contaminants (yes certainly radiation, Chernobyl and atomic testing, Godzilla). It’s not enough that the public is exposed to these contaminants in one form or another, but in addition drug use is rampant. In some cases resulting in long-term genetic damage. Putting this all together, no wonder a significant portion of the population can be considered mentally impaired, and you wonder why some of these people go off on a shooting rampage or succumb to the desperation of a Islamic calling?

Just a few more tidbits of environmental concern. There still are PCBs in the environment. These are polychlorinated biphenyls used as an insulating and cooling oil in transformers throughout the country. Responsible for decimating the eagle population. They were banned eventually but still persist in the environment. The Hudson River still has a problem with PCBs. Other things to consider are produce especially from Mexico where they pump tons of insecticide. Now I know you can wash those fruits and vegetables, but you don’t know what’s inside. Another problem is in the beef you eat, probably laced with steroids and growth hormone.

Another problem is all the people who throw away prescription drugs down the toilet. Even though this goes to a treatment plant, they are not equipped to filter water to that degree to keep out viruses, drugs, and the various hormone drugs.

So eventually these things end up in offshore sea critters, including fish, crabs, oysters, mussels, clams and shrimp. I can go on with more doom and gloom but I’ve already had enough for today just thinking about this.

I’m not worried about coal. Coal was formed long before the Industrial Revolution. Other than natural elements in the coal the biggest concern is CO2. However, CO2 in the atmosphere eventually goes into a buffer in the ocean. Eventually this becomes phytoplankton and food for zooplankton, anchovies and other fish up the food chain. Also every green plant consumes CO2. Oxygen from the plants is a byproduct. Ultimately coal plants could probably increase fish production. As for global warming. The sun is pretty much responsible for that our contribution is insignificant. One volcano puts out more CO2 then every car collectively since its beginning by Mr. Ford.

Also there’s been concern about nuclear power plants. At one time I was in a regulatory position having to “deal” with various nuclear power plants and construction companies such as Stone & Webster.

Back then there was competition and different designs in nuclear power plants. This was an invitation for confusion and mistakes. One time a nuclear power plant was put in backwards. This is one time the federal government should have stepped in.

For example, you could put a retired nuclear submarine into Baltimore Harbor and the reactor is so safe you could fry an egg on it but it would supply Baltimore with all the power it needed.

The Navy had the right idea, making safe nuclear power plants (although a tad bit smaller than a regional plant).

I could probably give you a list of failed nuclear power plants throughout the country much of this has to do with different designs resulting in big screw ups.

The Navy had it right. They developed safe nuclear power which still could be adapted to civilian use. Unfortunately, this is not a popular idea for the likes of Stone & Webster etc. and the so-called nuclear industry.



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:13am

MrGort,

So, mercuric lobster gets the rich while the salmon gets the poor; and, I suppose, the bears.

You are indeed correct in that we have so many pollutants we probably don't know what is causing many of our problems.

I think that due to evolution we are probably safe from most of the natural pollution. But it is the man-made stuff that has come upon us so quickly we can't adapt to it.

As for the nuclear industry. America has Admiral Hyman Rickover to thank for the Navy's predominance it the design of many the reactors used there.

If you can get hold of it, have a read of 'Super Fuel' by Richard Martin. I'm sure you will find it interesting.

My greatest pollutant worry is secondary smoke from my wife's cigarettes. I hate it. But the fact that she is slowly killing me doesn't seem to matter.

Aren't women wonderful ?

That was rhetorical, no need to answer.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MrGort on Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:27am

Some days you eat the bear (don’t eat the bear) some days the bear eats you. grin


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/03/montana-hiker-survives-2-attacks-by-same-bear-sheriff-says.html

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Post by LoneGunMan on Oct 3rd, 2016, 12:44pm

on Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:13am, INT21 wrote:
My greatest pollutant worry is secondary smoke from my wife's cigarettes. I hate it. But the fact that she is slowly killing me doesn't seem to matter.

Aren't women wonderful ?

That was rhetorical, no need to answer.

HAL
INT21


I think if you go back and read the fine print in your wedding contract you will find that it is listed there in the job description!

Lone
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Post by SuzyQ on Oct 3rd, 2016, 12:57pm

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Oct 3rd, 2016, 3:19pm

I just wrote Abe in Japan and asked If i could Volunteer with the Clean up and Population problem they are having.
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Post by SuzyQ on Oct 3rd, 2016, 3:49pm

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Oct 6th, 2016, 12:02pm

Deepwater Horizon oil spill impacted bluefin tuna spawning habitat in Gulf of Mexico

Date: October 3, 2016
Source: Stanford University

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Electronic tagging data from bluefin tuna show that the fish were actively spawning in the Gulf of Mexico during the height of the Deepwater Horizon spill (green and yellow data points). Credit: Stanford University

The Deepwater Horizon oil spill was one of the largest environmental disasters in history, releasing roughly 4 million barrels of crude oil into the Gulf of Mexico. For Atlantic bluefin tuna, it occurred at the worst time of year, during peak spawning season, when eggs and larval fish that are particularly vulnerable to environmental stressors exist in mass quantity.

In a study published in Nature: Scientific Reports, scientists from Stanford and NOAA provide the best yet analysis of how the 2010 breeding season might have been impacted by the oil spill.

Although the spill encompassed a relatively small proportion of the bluefin tuna spawning grounds, which extend throughout the northern Gulf of Mexico, the authors showed the cumulative oiled tuna habitat was roughly 3.1 million square miles, representing the potential for a significant impact on eggs and larval bluefin tuna in the Gulf of Mexico.

The authors concluded that the spill impacts combined with the multiple stressors of ocean warming and fishing pressure could make it more difficult for this unique population to rebuild.

"We know that bluefin tuna face numerous threats in the Gulf of Mexico and the oil spill represents another potential impact during a critical portion of their life history," said Elliott Hazen of NOAA Fisheries' Southwest Fisheries Science Center in La Jolla, California, and first author of the study.

The scientists directly mapped the preferred spawning habitat of the Atlantic bluefin tuna by drawing from a 16-year data set of electronic tagging data from 66 fish, which provided information such as the animals' locations, temperatures and unique diving patterns after up to a year of being tracked on sojourns of thousands of miles. They then overlaid this data with satellite observations of the oil spill's reach, to map the potential impact.

"It took us many years to establish and perfect the techniques of putting a satellite tag, essentially a small computer, on giant bluefin tuna, many over 1,000 pounds in this study, and figure out exactly where and when they potentially spawn in the Gulf of Mexico," said study co-author Barbara A. Block, a professor of marine sciences at Stanford. Block led the effort to discern exactly where and when the bluefin spawn.

They found that the timing of the oil spill directly overlapped with the maximum extent of adult bluefin tuna foraging and spawning habitat in the Gulf of Mexico. At its peak in May 2010, the spill covered more than 5 percent of the spawning habitat of Atlantic bluefin tuna in the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone.

Exposure to oil has previously been shown to have physiological consequences to the heart, and can cause deformations and death in eggs and larval fish, making it crucial to understand the effects in order to assess the impacts of oil spills. The effect of oil on spawning adult fish is not as well understood but the crude oil may add stressors to all life history stages occurring in the Gulf of Mexico.

"The bluefin tuna population in the Gulf of Mexico has been struggling to rebuild to healthy levels for over 30 years," Block said. "These fish are a genetically unique population, and thus stressors such as the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, even if minor, may have population-level effects. It is difficult to measure recruitment from the Gulf of Mexico post-2010, as the fish take a long time to enter into the commercial fishery where monitoring occurs, so we remain concerned."

The researchers said that their results are only inferring that the Deepwater Horizon spill likely harmed a sliver of the spawning habitats, and thus at least some of the 2010 class of bluefin tuna, but further monitoring is needed to understand how that affects the population at large.

"Because of their economic and ecological importance, we need to ensure the conservation and protection of Atlantic bluefin tuna on their spawning grounds," Hazen said. "We need to ensure maintained -- if not increased -- monitoring of Atlantic bluefin tuna in the years to come."
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1. Elliott L. Hazen, Aaron B. Carlisle, Steven G. Wilson, James E. Ganong, Michael R. Castleton, Robert J. Schallert, Michael J. W. Stokesbury, Steven J. Bograd, Barbara A. Block. Quantifying overlap between the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and predicted bluefin tuna spawning habitat in the Gulf of Mexico. Scientific Reports, 2016; 6: 33824 DOI: 10.1038/srep33824

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161003131241.htm


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Post by Cliff-67 on Oct 13th, 2016, 8:25pm

New Mexico Waste Isolation Pilot Plant

Officials say a portion of the ceiling in a closed area of New Mexico's Waste Isolation Pilot Plant has collapsed. The Carlsbad Current-Argus reports that WIPP President Phil Breidenbach said Friday that the fall was at the entrance to Panel 4, which has been sealed since 2010. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, the fall was discovered during a Sept. 27 inspection but it's not clear when it actually occurred. The letter says the area became "prohibited" two weeks before the inspection and was "restricted" before that. Prohibited areas have significant safety concerns and personnel are not allowed to enter. Breidenbach says restricted areas have ground control and air quality issues and can only be entered with management approval. Breidenbach says no workers are believed to have been in that area for the last six months.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UEV-20161011-55392-USA

Severe

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The Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, or WIPP, is the world's third deep geological repository (after closure of Germany's Repository for radioactive waste Morsleben and the Schacht Asse II Salt Mine) licensed to permanently dispose of transuranic radioactive waste for 10,000 years that is left from the research and production of nuclear weapons.


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Post by Swamprat on Oct 19th, 2016, 11:01am

Impact of the Fukushima accident on marine life, five years later

Date: October 18, 2016
Source: Society of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry

Five years ago, the largest single release of human-made radioactive discharge to the marine environment resulted from an accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Japan. Approximately 80 percent of the fallout happened over the Pacific Ocean. Jordi Vives i Batlle of the Belgian Nuclear Research Centre explores the environmental consequences in the marine environment of the accident in an article published in the October issue of Integrated Environmental Assessment and Management. He outlines the status of current research about the impact of the fallout on plant and animal life and what remains to be done as the radioactivity continues to spread. His article is part of a series of invited commentaries from international experts on "Lessons Learned and Consequences of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Accident, 5 Years Later."

Overall, the radioactivity levels in the marine biota near Fukushima were lower than predicted by some early studies immediately following the accident, and exposures were too low for acute effects at the population level to be observed in marine organisms ranging from microalgae to mollusks to fish. One study cited in the article concluded that the quick radioactive decay of the iodine-131 (one of the main isotopes, initially) and the confinement of the fallout to only some species and areas close to the power station were contributing factors to the low threshold exposure. However, more recent studies have shown variable levels in individual fish, though they too confirm that population-level effects have not been observed.

The variability in fish has numerous confounding factors -- the fishes' position in the food chain, where they live in the water column and their migratory patterns, to name a few. Additionally, there is a hypothesis that sediments have delayed the dispersal of the radioactive substances. Benthic fish, those at the bottom of the ocean, are more exposed to contaminated sediments and receive higher dose rates than pelagic fish living in the higher levels of the water column.

Vives i Batlle concludes that additional research is still required to fully understand the long-term effects that the fallout has had and that there is a need to continue studying the few "hotspots" very near the power station. The long-term fate of the contamination is still unknown, and information about how much radiation is stored in sediments and how much is still leaking from delayed sources, such as groundwater, has yet to be quantified. The research available so far on the risk to the marine environment is encouraging, but key research questions remain unanswered, signaling the direction for future investigations.
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Post by ZETAR on Oct 19th, 2016, 12:10pm

SWAMP,

EXCELLENT READ!

TO WIT:

"fallout happened over the Pacific Ocean"

THE ABOVE ASSERTS WHAT HAPPENED IS IN PAST TENSE ~ I MUST ~ IMHO ~ BEG TO DIFFER ~ IT CONTINUES TO SPEW!!! ~ HAVING SAID THE AFOREMENTIONED ~ THEY'RE SCIENTIFICALLY BANKRUPT AS TO HOW THEY WOULD...

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"The long-term fate of the contamination is still unknown"

Here are some general facts related to radiation exposure effects:

http://www.environmentalpollutioncenters.org/radiation/effects/

Any amount of radiation may cause cancer, especially in sensitive individuals. Or, in other words, any exposure to radiation may cause some risk. Thus, it is always safer to minimize as much as possible the exposure to radiation!
Cancer due to radiation exposure at lower doses usually develops years after the actual exposure.
While the risk of developing cancer increases with the dose of radiation, the risk may vary largely between individuals.


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Exposure to Low Amounts of Radiation over Long Periods of Time

The health effects of exposure to low amounts of radiation over longer times are not well-known, but the genetic material may be threatened through mutations with unpredictable overall effects. Thus, genetic birth defects and retardation are possible due to parent exposures. Also other health problems may develop affecting the neurological, reproductive or cardiac systems. These may or may not be followed by cancer. Other factors may influence the development of diseases due to radiation.


SHALOM...ZZZ


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Oct 19th, 2016, 12:42pm

The Animals Of Chernobyl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-nwQBBfmc

Biologist Timothy Mousseau has been studying the lasting effects of radiation on the flora and fauna of Chernobyl, Ukraine


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Oct 28th, 2016, 8:29pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oANCQyWluOk
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Post by ZETAR on Oct 28th, 2016, 8:54pm

SWAMP,

EXCELLENT CATCH!!!

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 13th, 2016, 11:24am

RSOE EDIS - EMERGENCY DISASTER AND INFORMATION SERVICE

Environment Pollution in Japan
November 06 2016 11:46 AM (UTC).

Storage tanks at car wash facilities near a crippled Japanese nuclear power plant contain sludge which is seven times higher than the legal radioactive limit, Japan's Kyodo news agency reported Sunday. An inspection of car wash facilities in the Fukushima prefecture found sludge containing up to 57,400 becquerels of radioactive material per kilogram, compared with the limit of 8,000 becquerels per kilogram allowed by authorities, according to a document Kyodo obtained. The radioactive material is believed to come from ash and soot which was washed from vehicles shortly after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant disaster in March 2011, officials said. The six-reactor plant suffered a triple meltdown after it was hit by a magnitude-9 earthquake and resulting tsunami. Fukushima Prefecture has some 1,700 car wash facilities where a growing number of tanks are filled to capacity, officials said, adding the amount of polluted sludge is estimated at several thousands of tons. Last month the Japanese government said that the cost of decommissioning the damaged nuclear plant is expected to soar to hundreds of billions of yen annually from the initial estimate of 80 billion yen (766 million dollars) each year.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20161106-55795-JPN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v8I5egzoMo
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Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 14th, 2016, 6:37pm

No Matter What BBC Says: Fukushima Disaster is Killing People

Quote from article :

Going Global

Radioactivity from Fukushima has now migrated across the Pacific and is appearing on the West Coast of the USA. The scientific community there, like Gerry Thomas, subscribe to the flawed ICRP model, and since the levels of Caesium-137 measured are low, (maybe 10Bq/cubic metre of sea water), they say that there will be no health effects. But like Thomas they are wrong.

The problem is that 'dose' cannot be used to assess risk from internal radioactive particles. Dose is an average over large masses of tissue: but cancer begins in a single cell or local community of cells and these particles from Fukushima cause massive local doses. This is why there have been countless web reports of
...

Google for link (causing excessive board expansion)-

A recommended read for those concerned.


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Post by SuzyQ on Nov 14th, 2016, 8:47pm

on Nov 14th, 2016, 6:37pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
No Matter What BBC Says: Fukushima Disaster is Killing People

Quote from article :

Going Global

Radioactivity from Fukushima has now migrated across the Pacific and is appearing on the West Coast of the USA. The scientific community there, like Gerry Thomas, subscribe to the flawed ICRP model, and since the levels of Caesium-137 measured are low, (maybe 10Bq/cubic metre of sea water), they say that there will be no health effects. But like Thomas they are wrong.

The problem is that 'dose' cannot be used to assess risk from internal radioactive particles. Dose is an average over large masses of tissue: but cancer begins in a single cell or local community of cells and these particles from Fukushima cause massive local doses. This is why there have been countless web reports of
...

Google for link (causing excessive board expansion)-

A recommended read for those concerned.



That article is deeply disturbing Cliff. cry

Who is Satan ? lipsrsealed

http://futurism.com/meet-satan-2-russias-new-icbm-nuke-capable-of-leveling-france-or-texas-in-one-hit/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 14th, 2016, 10:09pm

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"Fukushima Disaster is Killing"

THINKIN YOU'RE ON TO SUMPTIN shocked shocked shocked ~ IF LEFT SPEWING ~ UNABATED ~ SCIENTIFICALLY BANKRUPT AS TO CONTROL AND CONTAINMENT...

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SHALOM...Z


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 20th, 2016, 08:53am

cool

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Post by Swamprat on Nov 20th, 2016, 10:32am

Love that gif, Zetar! Any idea where I can find a jpg of just the evolution chain? Or is there a way to extract it from the gif?
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Post by ZETAR on Nov 20th, 2016, 11:26am

SWAMP,

TO WIT:

"Love that gif, Zetar! Any idea where I can find a jpg of just the evolution chain?"

THANK YOU SIR! ~ THEY (THAT INFAMOUS 'THEY' FAMILY PURR IS SOOOO FOND OF grin) SAY ~ GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE.

CHECK UR PM & I'LL SEND YOU A LINK... wink

SHALOM...Z
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Post by Swamprat on Nov 20th, 2016, 3:17pm

Wonderful! This is an important message to humanity!
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 21st, 2016, 5:49pm

Large earthquake off coast of Fukushima...Tsunami warning issued.


Tepco Livecam 1 & 4
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index2-e.html

7.3 Magnitude

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=seism_index&rid=643666
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Post by ZETAR on Nov 21st, 2016, 7:34pm

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"Large earthquake off coast of Fukushima...Tsunami warning issued."

THANX CLIFF!

A teenager has filmed a ' meteorite ' burning across the sky shortly after the Japanese earthquake struck.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/teenager-films-meteorite-burning-across-9306501

The teen, known as Asuka, 16, from Japan, filmed the extraordinary sight trailing across the evening sky this evening.


SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 21st, 2016, 7:48pm

That's kewl Z. It looks like a jet, sort've. Hard to say.

I did see a daytime bolide in Arizona when I was about 12. It left quite an awesome trail and broke up in several pieces over the Hualapai Mountains...

Spent-fuel cooling at Fukushima Daini plant temporarily halts
TOKYO, Nov. 22, Kyodo

The cooling system at one of the spent-fuel pools at the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant temporarily halted Tuesday morning after a strong earthquake rattled northeastern Japan, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc. said.

Cooling at the No. 3 unit's spent-fuel pool resumed at 7:47 a.m., less than two hours after the system automatically halted. TEPCO said it has not detected any radiation leaks at the site of the four-reactor plant -- located some 12 kilometers south of the Fukushima Daiichi plant, which was devastated by the 2011 quake and tsunami disaster.

Following the magnitude-7.4 quake that struck Fukushima and nearby northeastern Japan prefectures shortly before 6:00 a.m. Tuesday, the Daiichi and Daini plants were hit by tsunami waves about 1 meter high about 40 minutes later. There were no reports of injuries at the two sites, the plant operator said.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2016/11/445354.html

Luckily , this time, they dodged a major warhead (hopefully).

I wonder how those wanna - be containment vessels are holding up after all that shaking ?




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Post by Sys_Config on Nov 21st, 2016, 8:44pm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 21st, 2016, 9:25pm

SYS,


THAT WAS INDEED SURREAL...

NO DOUBT IT'S... >>> Shake, Rattle and Roll - Elvis Presley <<<

https://youtu.be/EHXB3e6Kljs

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Nov 24th, 2016, 7:27pm

Nuclear Event in Iran

November 24 2016 12:44 PM (UTC).

A missing radioactive device from the Bushehr nuclear reactor has raised concerns of possible misuse or incorrect handling. The device went missing after the vehicle it was transporting it was stolen. The car was later found but without the device that could be used for industrial purposes. Adnan al-Tamimi, Chairman of the GCC Emergency Management Center, voiced his concerns that the missing device could be misused. He stated the device loses half of its power after 74 days of inactivity; nonetheless it should be handled carefully.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20161124-56075-IRN

( Severe - Significant threat to life or property )

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=NC-20161124-56075-IRN

Hmm...rolleyes


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Nov 24th, 2016, 10:39pm

oh snap..
Middle-East
Country Iran
County / State Province of Bushehr
Area Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant
Settlement
Coordinate 28° 49.777,50° 53.158

nuclear trigger device..i bet.. shocked shocked
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by LoneGunMan on Nov 25th, 2016, 10:50am

on Nov 24th, 2016, 10:39pm, Sys_Config wrote:
oh snap..
Middle-East
Country Iran
County / State Province of Bushehr
Area Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant
Settlement
Coordinate 28° 49.777,50° 53.158

nuclear trigger device..i bet.. shocked shocked


Sure sounds like it from the specs posted! If it is they can be recharged I believe!

Lone
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 25th, 2016, 12:22pm

Ya can't trust em furr-sure. It could be a cover-up with covert intentions...

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/11/24/IAEA-help-sought-over-missing-Iran-nuclear-device.html

They're especially concerned with the water...

However, as far as trust goes with some, I had an Iranian slice my throat between my carotid and larynx several years ago...good dude...can't thank him enough ! (c-spine/neck surgery) grin
He was from the old regime before the overthrow...

I hope they locate whatever this device is soon.....They need to be more responsible and secure with this stuff.....That goes for all of em imho.

rolleyes


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 25th, 2016, 1:51pm


Puddles Found in Reactor Buildings of Fukushima Daini Plant After Quake


FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Nov. 24, Kyodo

Puddles of water have been found in reactor buildings of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant following a strong earthquake that shook northeastern Japan on Tuesday, the plant operator said Thursday.

Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc. said the puddles may have formed from water that slopped out of spent-fuel pools in three of the four reactor buildings at the idled plant during the quake. The utility has yet to confirm whether the water leaked outside the reactor buildings.

All four of the reactors at the plant have been offline since the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami disaster. While the complex in Fukushima Prefecture was engulfed by tsunami waves, it escaped a meltdown, unlike the Fukushima Daiichi plant.

https://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2016/11/445693.html

I still can't help but wonder about them water containment vessels also...if that's what they want to label them as.....





Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Nov 25th, 2016, 6:58pm

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"I still can't help but wonder about them water containment vessels also...if that's what they want to label them as....."

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Imagine Dragons - Radioactive

https://youtu.be/ktvTqknDobU

"The utility has yet to confirm whether the water leaked outside the reactor buildings."

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Nov 26th, 2016, 7:09pm

on Nov 24th, 2016, 7:27pm, K-19 A ? wrote:
Nuclear Event in Iran

November 24 2016 12:44 PM (UTC).

A missing radioactive device from the Bushehr nuclear reactor has raised concerns of possible misuse or incorrect handling. The device went missing after the vehicle it was transporting it was stolen. The car was later found but without the device that could be used for industrial purposes. Adnan al-Tamimi, Chairman of the GCC Emergency Management Center, voiced his concerns that the missing device could be misused. He stated the device loses half of its power after 74 days of inactivity; nonetheless it should be handled carefully.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20161124-56075-IRN

( Severe - Significant threat to life or property )

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=NC-20161124-56075-IRN

Hmm...rolleyes



https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https://duckduckgo.com/&bext=wfa
1 Iridium-192
2 Table
2.1 Notes
3 References
4 External links

Iridium-192

Iridium-192 (symbol 192Ir) is a radioactive isotope of iridium, with a half-life of 73.83 days.[1] It decays by emitting beta (βwink particles and gamma (γwink radiation. About 96% of 192Ir decays occur via emission of β and γ radiation, leading to 192Pt. Some of the β particles are captured by other 192Ir nuclei, which are then converted to 192Os. Electron capture is responsible for the remaining 4% of 192Ir decays.[2]

Iridium-192 is also a strong gamma ray emitter. There are seven principal energy packets produced during its disintegration process ranging from just over 0.2 to about 0.6 MeV. Iridium-192 is commonly used as a gamma ray source in industrial radiography to locate flaws in metal components.[3] It is also used in radiotherapy as a radiation source, in particular in brachytherapy.

Iridium-192 has accounted for the majority of cases tracked by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission in which radioactive materials have gone missing in quantities large enough to make a dirty bomb.[4]


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 26th, 2016, 8:59pm

on Nov 26th, 2016, 7:09pm, Sys_Config wrote:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https://duckduckgo.com/&bext=wfa
1 Iridium-192
2 Table
2.1 Notes
3 References
4 External links

Iridium-192

Iridium-192 (symbol 192Ir) is a radioactive isotope of iridium, with a half-life of 73.83 days.[1] It decays by emitting beta (βwink particles and gamma (γwink radiation. About 96% of 192Ir decays occur via emission of β and γ radiation, leading to 192Pt. Some of the β particles are captured by other 192Ir nuclei, which are then converted to 192Os. Electron capture is responsible for the remaining 4% of 192Ir decays.[2]

Iridium-192 is also a strong gamma ray emitter. There are seven principal energy packets produced during its disintegration process ranging from just over 0.2 to about 0.6 MeV. Iridium-192 is commonly used as a gamma ray source in industrial radiography to locate flaws in metal components.[3] It is also used in radiotherapy as a radiation source, in particular in brachytherapy.

Iridium-192 has accounted for the majority of cases tracked by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission in which radioactive materials have gone missing in quantities large enough to make a dirty bomb.[4]



Good find Sys & I'm sure A k-9 I mean K-19 A ? would agree.

Hmm...

Intel : Iran Using Commercial Planes To Smuggle Weapons to Terrorists

Obama admin accused of facilitating Iranian terror by approving new airplane sales

BY: Adam Kredo
November 24, 2016 1:00 pm

The Obama administration has given clearance to Western airline manufacturers to sell planes to Iran at the same time the Islamic Republic is using commercial airliners to smuggle weapons and other illicit arms to Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon, according to new intelligence and congressional communications obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

The disclosure of this new intelligence, which shows that Iran has been using its commercial airline company to smuggle advanced weaponry to Hezbollah and terrorists operating in Syria, has placed renewed focus on a congressional inquiry that has been stymied by Obama administration officials since early October.

Senators, led by Sen. David Perdue (R., Ga.), have been pushing Obama administration officials to explain why they are helping airline manufacturers Boeing and AirBus sell planes to Iran, despite clear evidence that Tehran is using its commercial airline as cover for its

Continue Here :

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-using-planes-smuggle-weapons-terrorists/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Nov 26th, 2016, 9:25pm


And I thought Israel was our friend ?

Why is the U.S. doing this ? I don't get it . huh




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Nov 27th, 2016, 1:12pm

on Nov 25th, 2016, 12:22pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Ya can't trust em furr-sure. It could be a cover-up with covert intentions...

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/11/24/IAEA-help-sought-over-missing-Iran-nuclear-device.html

They're especially concerned with the water...

However, as far as trust goes with some, I had an Iranian slice my throat between my carotid and larynx several years ago...good dude...can't thank him enough ! (c-spine/neck surgery) grin
He was from the old regime before the overthrow...

I hope they locate whatever this device is soon.....They need to be more responsible and secure with this stuff.....That goes for all of em imho.

rolleyes




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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Nov 27th, 2016, 3:48pm

cool
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by SuzyQ on Nov 30th, 2016, 6:57pm

iZ this the muZik thread ? huh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmKkV3ddAo

Japan Atomic Power Co said on Wednesday water used for cooling its Tsuruga No.2 reactor, shut for maintenance, splashed on 10 employees at work inside an auxiliary plant building without causing injuries or radioactive contamination. The electricity wholesaler said about 160 liters of water spilled, splashing the workwear of staff conducting inspections on Wednesday. The company said there was no leak of radiation to the surrounding environment. The incident was reported two days after utility Tohoku Electric Power Co said about 12.5 tonnes of seawater used for cooling pumps and motors inside its Onagawa No.1 reactor building had leaked. The Onagawa reactor is also shut for maintenance. The utility said in a statement the seawater contained no radioactive material and had not leaked to the outside environment.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20161130-56151-JPN

Not radioactive.....I believe em....You ? undecided rolleyes


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 1st, 2016, 08:15am

on Nov 30th, 2016, 6:57pm, SuzyQ wrote:
iZ this the muZik thread ? huh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmKkV3ddAo

Japan Atomic Power Co said on Wednesday water used for cooling its Tsuruga No.2 reactor, shut for maintenance, splashed on 10 employees at work inside an auxiliary plant building without causing injuries or radioactive contamination. The electricity wholesaler said about 160 liters of water spilled, splashing the workwear of staff conducting inspections on Wednesday. The company said there was no leak of radiation to the surrounding environment. The incident was reported two days after utility Tohoku Electric Power Co said about 12.5 tonnes of seawater used for cooling pumps and motors inside its Onagawa No.1 reactor building had leaked. The Onagawa reactor is also shut for maintenance. The utility said in a statement the seawater contained no radioactive material and had not leaked to the outside environment.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20161130-56151-JPN

Not radioactive.....I believe em....You ? undecided rolleyes



Situation Update No. 1

Japan Atomic Power Co. said Wednesday that 10 workers GOT WET from coolant water CONTAINING RADIOACTIVE SUBSTANCES in an auxiliary building for reactor 2 at its Tsuruga nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture. The 10 employees were NOT EXPOSED to radiation, THE COMPANY SAID. Up to 160 liters of room-temperature coolant water containing 272,000 becquerels of radioactive substances was spilled, or some one-10th of the level that must be reported to the government, Japan Atomic Power said, adding that the amount of the hazardous materials was "NOT SMALL." Water from a pipe sprayed into a tank room on the second basement floor of the auxiliary building around 10:50 a.m. Wednesday (1:50 a.m. GMT), when a worker loosened a bolt of a valve on the pipe, which has an attached tank for storing coolant, according to Japan Atomic Power. Of the 15 workers from a subcontracting company who were in the room, four received water OVER THEIR WHOLE BODIES, while six were PARTIALLY soaked by the water. The water splashed DIRECTLY ONTO THE SKIN on the faces of some of the workers, according to Japan Atomic Power. When the water poured in, the workers, wearing jumpsuits, helmets, gloves and goggles, were trying to drain the pipe for checkups of the valve and to exchange a rubber part of the tank for temporarily storing coolant water while operations at the plant are halted. In November last year, Japan Atomic Power applied for safety checks by the Nuclear Regulation Authority for the Tsuruga reactor. An NRA screening is required before the nuclear reactor is reactivated.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=NC-20161130-56151-JPN

huh rolleyes

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Dec 1st, 2016, 1:31pm

Chernobyl puts the lid on.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1bv9fAxiY

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by SuzyQ on Dec 2nd, 2016, 7:00pm

That's good to ( finally) see Swamp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7Eczs-nTI&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY






Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Dec 10th, 2016, 9:06pm

Cesium-134, the so-called fingerprint of Fukushima, was measured in seawater samples from the west coast of the United States and a salmon sampled from Canada, researchers said.

Releases from the Fukushima reactors have included dozens of radioactive elements, but with regard to materials released into the ocean, most of the attention has been on three radioactive isotopes released in large amounts: iodine-131, cesium-137, and cesium-134, according to the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI). Iodine-131 from Fukushima decaying quickly is no longer detectable in the environment. Cesium-137 has a relatively long half-life (30 years), but it is also present in the ocean as a result of nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s and the 1960s. Because of its short half-life, cesium-134 can only have come from Fukushima. Cesium-134 was measured, for the first time, in seawater samples from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach in the U.S. northwest state of Oregon, the Statesman Journal newspaper reported, citing the WHOI. Cesium-134 has also been detected in a Canadian salmon for the first time, the Fukushima InFORM project, led by University of Victoria chemical oceanographer Jay Cullen, reported in November. Samples, in both cases, indicate that radiation from the nuclear disaster at extremely low levels is not harmful to humans or the environment. Each of the seawater samples taken in January and February of 2016 and later analyzed measured 0.3 becquerels per cubic meter of cesium-134. And the level in a single sockeye salmon, sampled from the Okanagan Lake in the summer of 2015, was more than 1,000 times lower than the action level set by Health Canada.

Radiation contamination at Fukushima was "unprecedented" for the oceans, Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at the WHOI told Xinhua earlier this year. "While in total Chernobyl was a bigger source of human-made radioactivity, most of the Fukushima releases entered the ocean, more than 80 percent, so for the oceans this was a bigger source," Buesseler said. Buesseler, who called for more efforts to make environmental and health assessments of the Fukushima accident, said even when radiation levels become lower than any safety standards, people can still learn something about the fate and transport of radioactive compounds in this way.

On March 11, 2011, a magnitude-9.0 earthquake -- one of the largest ever recorded -- struck the eastern coast of Japan. The tsunamis caused by the quake badly damaged the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, eventually causing four of the six reactors there to release radiation into the atmosphere and ocean. Emergency crews used seawater to cool the damaged reactors at the power plant. Because of the plant's location along the coast, much of the water was washed into the Pacific, resulting in the largest accidental release of radiation to the ocean in history.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20161210-56306-USA


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Dec 10th, 2016, 10:09pm

Cover-up Admitted: Radioactive Fish Off U.S. West Coast With “Disturbing Fingerprint of Fukushima”
Mac Slavo
December 9th, 2016

The entire Pacific Coast of the United States, Canada and Mexico has been contaminated with radioactive particles from Fukushima.

And finally, it is being officially acknowledged. This is really happening…

It is a stark reminder that the effects from Fukushima radiation continually spilling into the ocean have not been abated. The site continues to leak highly toxic radioactive material to this day. Nothing has stopped.

via the Associated Press / CBS News:

“Radiation from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster detected on Oregon shores”

• • • • •

Seaborne radiation from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster has been detected on Oregon shores, researchers say.

Seawater samples from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach indicate radiation from the nuclear disaster but at extremely low levels not harmful to humans or the environment.

Of course, they claim that it is “safe” because the levels are low. USA Today emphasized the ridiculously minuscule dose of radiation that say, a swimmer would get at the beach – while admitted for the first time that those warning about the spreading radiation were, in fact, correct. exposure:

“Should we be worried about Fukushima radiation?”

• • • • •

The levels are very low and shouldn’t harm people eating fish from the West Coast or swimming in the ocean, according to Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

[…]

Cesium-134, the so-called fingerprint of Fukushima, was measured in seawater samples taken from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach in Oregon, according to researchers from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

Of course, the idea that radiation was reaching California and the West Coast, and that fish were being contaminated by Fukushima radiation from thousands of miles across the Pacific was considered – yep – “fake news” at the time. The alarmist cries of conspiracy theorists and hypochondriacs were just non-sense, jibberish, delusions and paranoia. Typical hyperbolic non-sense from people caught up in an echo chamber.

But now, it is an admitted fact that Fukushima radiation is impacting U.S. shores.

Sorry to ignore and deride your claims, above group of deplorables. Turns out you were right, or at least on to something.

The source in this story, as well as most of the other “big” stories on Fukushima over the past several years, is Ken Buesseler, from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts.

He has been a consistent and authoritative voice on Fukushima, sharply criticizing the government role in ignoring the problem, and shedding light on the vast ripple that the nuclear disaster has caused in the biggest of ponds.

Regardless, the linear thinking about “low levels” ignore the mounting scientific evidence about cumulative exposure to radioactive isotopes and other toxins and free radicals.

What’s interesting is how much different the same Ken Buesseler is portrayed in different mainstream media accounts… where sometimes only half of the message gets through.

While the The New Yorker pointed out the complexity of dealing with long-term health issues that could be connected to radiation, via Ken Beusseler’s comments from 2015:

“Is Radioactive Water Worth Worrying About?”

• • • • •

Whether any of this actually matters depends on whom you ask. “There’s a nuclear-power side that’s very quick to be dismissive and say, ‘Don’t worry your pretty little heads, you’re not in harm’s way,’ “ Ken Buesseler, a marine-chemistry researcher at Woods Hole and the organizer of the sampling initiative, told me. “The flip side are the people screaming, you know, ‘Stay out of the Pacific, don’t swim in Monterey, I’m going to move, tell your friends, this is a catastrophe!’ “ At the levels detected in Ucluelet, Buesseler has calculated, you’d need to swim six hours a day for a thousand years to get the radiation equivalent of a dental X-ray.

The full impact of nuclear fallout, however, depends on more than becquerels, which merely count the number of times per second that an unstable atom somewhere in the sample fires off a particle. These particles, and the differing amounts of energy with which they are ejected, have a wide range of effects on the body. We process cesium like an electrolyte, which means that it is diffused throughout the body and eventually excreted in urine. Half of the amount that is ingested is lost within a few months, which limits exposure.

By contrast, strontium-90, another common component of nuclear waste, is a calcium-like “bone seeker” that becomes concentrated in the skeleton and teeth. Since it stays there for years rather than months, even relatively low doses increase the risk of conditions such as bone cancer and leukemia. From a human health perspective, Buesseler sees a potential strontium leak as far more worrying than a little cesium.

So, as far as nuclear waste goes, cesium-134 is not as bad as strontium-90, but that doesn’t mean there are no harmful effects, and it doesn’t mean that strontium isotopes aren’t affecting the Pacific and West Coast as well – because it has been detected there, and more can be expected to be found:

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The biomagnification of the food chain – as low levels of radiation build up in lower life forms and in turn become consumed (and often concentrated) by higher life forms – will increase human exposure in ways that simple measures for exposure time simply do not account for. Its effects will be masked, but not impotent.

What happens to man and the environment when he is exposed to low levels of radiation over the decades and many years that make up his life? What about its impact on DNA through epigenetics? science now knows that gene expression is changed when it is exposed to dangerous materials in the body.

When blue fin tuna that migrate from Japan to the West Coast were found to contain radioactive particles, again, via Ken Buesseler, the mainstream media downplayed the risks, while alternative media sources sounded the alarm – something that shouldn’t be happening is:

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While the facts in the report remain the same, Forbes, among other mainstream outlets, downplayed the perception of the problem, and essentially giving credence to that idea that there isn’t a problem at all:

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Forbes even published this misleading ‘appeal to conservation’:

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And don’t forget Ann Coulter’s claim that radiation is good for you, too.

It wasn’t until 2016 – a full five years after the meltdown – that Japanese officials, and in turn outlets like CBS News, admitted that there was indeed a cover-up, and a concerted effort not to use ‘branding’ and ‘perception’ words like “meltdown”… even though one was underway:

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Latent diseases and disorders have a way of subtly cropping up, creating a silent genocide of worn down people suffering from chronic disease and inflammation that gives way to cancers, heart and brain diseases, autoimmune disorders and the like.

That is the biggest risk that Fukushima still poses today.

Ignored since just after it happened in 2011, the authorities have FINALLY officially acknowledged what they dared not admit since the cover-up began in the wake of the earthquake and tsunami that crippled the nuclear power plant and began the long, slow poisoning of the Pacific Ocean, and all the life that is sustained from it.

This is a horror, and the mainstream media as it is, with your interests above all others, has assured you that this ongoing disaster is, nonetheless, perfectly safe. Everything is fine, back to your regularly scheduled program….

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 11th, 2016, 12:09pm


Welcome to 'the Most Toxic Place in America'

56,000,000 (million) gallons

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/welcome-most-toxic-place-america-n689141

DOE may miss new Hanford tank deadlines


Dec. 07, 2016

The Department of Energy may not be able to meet new deadlines for emptying certain leak-prone single shell tanks at the Hanford nuclear reservation, DOE told the state of Washington. The new deadlines for emptying radioactive waste were set in a major revision in March of the federal-court-enforced consent decree.

The Department of Energy is at serious risk of missing new court-enforced deadlines for emptying some of Hanford’s leak-prone underground tanks.

DOE notified the state of Washington Tuesday night that two newly set tank deadlines are in jeopardy.

A federal court judge extended deadlines in March after it became clear that DOE could not meet previous deadlines set in a 2010 court-enforced consent decree for the Hanford nuclear reservation.

Work has been slowed by safety precautions implemented around waste tanks to protect workers from breathing potentially toxic chemical vapors, according to DOE.

“We’d hate to see any delays in the work to clean up nuclear waste at Hanford, but no one wants that work to progress at the cost of worker health or safety,” said Alex Smith, manager for Ecology’s Nuclear Waste Program.

The news of a possible delay is disappointing, she said. Emptying tanks is important work that will protect the health and safety of all Washington residents.


Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/hanford/article119455933.html#storylink=cpy

Respirators mandated...


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 12th, 2016, 7:49pm

Scientists Turn Nuclear Waste into Diamond Batteries That’ll Last for Thousands of Years


Researchers at the University of Bristol in the UK have a solution. Geochemist Tom Scott and colleagues have invented a method to encapsulate nuclear waste within diamonds, which as a battery, can provide a clean energy supply lasting in some cases, thousands of years.

Continue Here :
http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/scientists-turn-nuclear-waste-in-diamond-batteries-thatll-last-for-thousands-of-years



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Dec 13th, 2016, 11:38pm

ap·a·thy
ˈnoun
lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concern.
"widespread apathy among students"
synonyms: indifference, lack of interest, lack of enthusiasm, lack of concern, unconcern, uninterestedness, unresponsiveness, impassivity, dispassion, lethargy, languor, ennui; rareacedia
"widespread apathy among the voters"


Situation Update No. 1 on December 13 2016 08:58 AM (UTC)

A chemical agent attack was reported today in the eastern suburbs of Hama in the Aqeerbat area. At least 93 civilians have been killed and over 300 wounded.

The attacks happened at approximately 6:30 a.m. on December 12 Damascus time amidst heavy airstrikes which lasted over an hour. Many of the victims were children. Victims exposed to the odorless, colorless gas experienced symptoms including: dilated pupils, convulsions, extreme dry cough, bloody secretions, suffocation, nausea and vomiting.
The victims that were killed died very quickly, had foaming of the mouth and no signs of physical injury. Casualty numbers are high due to shortages of medical staff with chemical weapons response training.
The attacks coincided with a "Humanitarian Ultimatum" issued by President Francois Hollande of France, demanding the safety of 100,000 people fleeing Aleppo and for the safe passage of humanitarian aid to those in desperate need.

The statement came after a meeting with Dr. Ziad Alissa -President of UOSSM France, Professor Raphael Pitti- Board Member of the UOSSM France, the President of MSF and the President of MDM.
UOSSM is disgusted by the vulgarity of these attacks against children and civilians. We ask the OPCW (Organization for the Prohibition Of Chemical Weapons) to fulfill it's mandate and launch an immediate investigation into this attack and hold perpetrators responsible for war crimes (UNSC-R 2118, UNSC-R 2209).

100,000 civilians in eastern Aleppo are confided to a very small area, under constant and relentless bombardment, with no access to medical or humanitarian aid. Many of those civilians are women and children. Hundreds require immediate medical attention and need to be evacuated.

Given the severe targeting of aid /healthcare workers, we plead with the UN and WHO to use every power at their disposal to evacuate aid workers, NGO staff and their families from Aleppo. The genocidal killings in Syria must stop now. "We cannot stand one more day of horrors. Every day a new sadistic action is taken against the people of Syria as the world looks on dumbly.
Try and imagine the pain and suffering the people go through for every moment without peace." Said Dr. Anas Al Kassem, Chairman of UOSSM Canada /Ontario Surgeon .

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=CR-20161212-56331-SYR


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Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 21st, 2016, 6:03pm

In a major haul, the Thane Police have seized almost 9 kg of radioactive depleted uranium, a top official said here on Wednesday. "We have confirmed that the substance seized is depleted uranium. It is radioactive and extremely dangerous... DU is used in weapons and armaments all over the world," Thane Police Commissioner Parambir Singh told IANS of the unexpected haul. Following a tip-off, Anti-Chain Snatching Squad Senior Police Inspector Ravindra Doiphode and his team recently laid a trap at a location on the desolate Ghodbunder Road connecting Mumbai and Thane. As expected, two persons arrived there near a hotel on motorcycles carrying dark blue pouches, a box and other material -- both were detained. The police recovered 8.9 kg of some uranium-type substance and also laboratory test report indicating it was uranium. According to initial investigations, it was brought from abroad and was intended for sale to some unknown parties here. The two lab reports of different samples recovered along with the seizure said the substance was depleted uranium, one having 87.70 per cent uranium and other 79.50 per cent uranium content. "Since this is a banned item and not something available in the open market, we are not able to determine its exact value," Doiphode told media persons. However, some independent media reports claimed its value to be around Rs 3 crore per kg. Joint Police Commissioner Ashutosh Thombre said they are filing a case under the Atomic Energy Act and sending samples of the substance for additional reports after which further action would be taken. The police have arrested the two persons and further investigation is on.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=CR-20161221-56465-IND


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 25th, 2016, 3:30pm

Reindeer are still very radioactive 30 years after Chernobyl

The holiday spirit might not totally explain what makes Rudolph's nose glow so bright.

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Thirty years after a nuclear power plant exploded at Chernobyl, the reindeer that walk the picturesque, snow-capped mountains of Scandinavia are still radioactive.

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They weren't the only ones affected. For generations, the Sami people, native to the Arctic North, lived in harmony with nature.

Many worked as boazovázzi, or 'reindeer walkers', herding the animals over hundreds of miles of terrain and selling their meat come slaughter season. The reindeer were a cultural and economic centrepiece for the Sami people.

But the explosion - considered the worst civilian nuclear disaster in history - coated the earth with toxic material, turned the reindeer radioactive, and poisoned the Sami people's way of life.


SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Dec 25th, 2016, 11:03pm

Looking In The Wrong Places Ignoring Fukushima
How much effort does it take to repoint the same Laser To the Pacific?
Why does NSA choose to watch paint dry while a slow train approaches?

https://www.rt.com/viral/371176-nasa-space-laser-ocea-phytoplankton/
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A tiny organism at the base of the food chain, but vital for life to exist on Earth, is under threat, according to data collected by a NASA satellite that has been firing a laser into the ocean for a decade.

Phytoplankton, a tiny plant organism living near the Earth’s poles, is an essential food source for ocean dwellers. It also sucks in carbon dioxide, assisting with the planet’s carbon cycle, contributing to up to 85 percent of the planet’s breathable oxygen.

The new findings by NASA worryingly indicate that the species' “boom and bust” population is heavily threatened by melting ice-caps caused by global warming.

Study finds that small, environmental changes in polar food webs greatly influence peak and decline of phytoplankton https://t.co/IzFpXo5ZDopic.twitter.com/iEgby6S1hS
— NASA (@NASA) December 21, 2016

The organism’s population has been difficult to study due to “limited sunlight and persistent clouds” around the polar regions, making readings hard to detect on satellite sensors. Using the Cloud-Aerosol Lidar with Orthogonal Polarization (CALIOP), a giant laser beam has been studying phytoplankton since 2006 in great detail.

“CALIOP was a game-changer in our thinking about ocean remote sensing from space,” research scientist Chris Hostetler said in a statement released by NASA. “We were able to study the workings of the high-latitude ocean ecosystem during times of year when we were previously completely blind.”

Antarctica in technicolor: Wildlife below the sea ice https://t.co/sFJXdrSUyCpic.twitter.com/bvfOOEIhfQ
— RT (@RT_com) December 21, 2016

The new findings, published in the journal Nature Geoscience, indicate that the organisms’ population around Antarctica was closely tied to ice cap coverage, not to annual growth rates as previously believed. As rising temperatures melt the ice, raising the ocean temperature, phytoplankton population decreases.

The population was also found to cause “phytoplankton blooms” in the Arctic region, when its growth rates allow it to outgrow the fish that prey on it. As its growth rate stops, the fish that depend on it catch up.

READ MORE: Astronaut Peake snaps monster Patagonian plankton bloom from space (PHOTO)

“The take-home message is that if we want to understand the biological food web and production of the polar systems as a whole, we have to focus both on changes in ice cover and changes in the ecosystems that regulate this delicate balance between predators and prey,” marine plankton expert Michael Behrenfeld explained.

Misdirection or Missed Direction?


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Dec 26th, 2016, 2:06pm

SYS,

TO WIT:

"Looking In The Wrong Places Ignoring Fukushima"

QUITE SO ~ EXPECTING THE "MSM" TO UTTER THE IMPORTANCE OF SUCH ~ rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

ANYHOO ~ Thirty years after a nuclear power plant exploded at Chernobyl ~ But the explosion - considered the worst civilian nuclear disaster in history - coated the earth with toxic material ~ WHAT ONE DAY IN HISTORY DID ~ cry

WHAT THE CONTINUED AND UNABATED SPEWING OF RADIOACTIVE PARTICULATE SINCE >>> March 11, 2011 <<< INTO THE PACIFIC ~ EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY!!!

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"Misdirection or Missed Direction?"

MORE ALONG THE LINES OF MISLEAD DIRECTION

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 26th, 2016, 4:43pm


Hanford, Not Fukushima, is the Big Radiological Threat to the West Coast

by ROBERT JACOBS

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There is a dangerous radiological threat to the West Coast of the United States that puts the health of millions of Americans at risk. It includes dangers to public health, dangers to the food supply, and dangers to future generations from long-lived radionuclides, including some of the most toxic material in the world. It is not Fukushima, it is Hanford. While radiation from the Fukushima nuclear meltdowns is reaching the West Coast, carried across the ocean from Japan, the radiation from Hanford is already there, has been there for 70 years, and is in serious risk of catastrophe that could dwarf the effects of Fukushima even on Japan.

Hanford, on the Columbia River in Eastern Washington State, is the site where the United States produced the majority of its plutonium for nuclear weapons during the Cold War. These tens of thousands of American nuclear weapons were built as an end product of the high levels of plutonium production at Hanford. The first three nuclear reactors on Earth were built at Hanford, with a total of nine nuclear power plants being built there eventually. Nuclear power plants operated for ten years in this world before they were ever used to generate electricity. Electricity is a secondary purpose for nuclear power plants, they were designed and built as plutonium manufacturing plants.

Hanford was the first of these plutonium production sites. The two worst radiological disasters (besides nuclear weapon detonations) in the first four decades of the Atomic Age were accidents at the plutonium production sites of the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union, both in 1957. Military plutonium production sites remain among the most contaminated sites on Earth. During the period of operation more than 67 metric tons of plutonium were manufactured at Hanford. Hanford is home to 60% (by volume) of all of the high level radioactive waste stored in the United States. Nearly 80% of the Department of Energy’s inventory of spent nuclear fuel rods are stored just 400 yards away from the Columbia River. (Statistics taken from Physicians for Social Responsibility webpage)

CONTINUE HERE :

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/29/hanford-not-fukushima-is-the-big-radiological-threat-to-the-west-coast/

Wasn't there news stories not long ago about workers catching " it " for wearing hazmats but now they're mandatory ? Were some claiming to be sick ? I could be mistaken...

Article from April.....I highly doubt they have the situation under control yet, but again, I could be mistaking.....

[i](x) Nukes = More x THIS!
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Post by SuzyQ on Dec 26th, 2016, 5:49pm

"The Green Run

In December 1949 the United States deliberately released an immense amount of radiation into populated areas at the Hanford Site during the notorious Green Run. It was the largest intentional release of radiation conducted by the U.S. government. While nuclear testing in Nevada exposed many people to significant amounts of radiation, this was a byproduct of the desire to test weapons. In the Green Run the intention was specifically to release the radiation into the Hanford area. The Green Run was conducted in reaction to the test of the first Soviet nuclear weapon in Kazakhstan several months earlier. The first indications that the Soviets had successfully tested a nuclear weapon came when sensors at Hanford picked up the radiation several days later. It was decided to release radiation “similar” to that of the Soviet test to develop and hone detection equipment and better analysis of the Soviet program.
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cry cry cry
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Dec 26th, 2016, 8:59pm

on Dec 26th, 2016, 5:49pm, SuzyQ wrote:
"The Green Run

In December 1949 the United States deliberately released an immense amount of radiation into populated areas at the Hanford Site during the notorious Green Run. It was the largest intentional release of radiation conducted by the U.S. government. While nuclear testing in Nevada exposed many people to significant amounts of radiation, this was a byproduct of the desire to test weapons. In the Green Run the intention was specifically to release the radiation into the Hanford area. The Green Run was conducted in reaction to the test of the first Soviet nuclear weapon in Kazakhstan several months earlier. The first indications that the Soviets had successfully tested a nuclear weapon came when sensors at Hanford picked up the radiation several days later. It was decided to release radiation “similar” to that of the Soviet test to develop and hone detection equipment and better analysis of the Soviet program.
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cry cry cry


The Battle of Evermore


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pii1LCgvumQ

The Queen of Light took her bow,
And then she turned to go,
The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom,
And walked the night alone.

Oh, dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The dark Lord rides in force tonight,
And time will tell us all.

Oh, throw down your plow and hoe,
Rest not to lock your homes.
Side by side we wait the might
Of the darkest of them all.

I hear the horses' thunder down in the valley below,
I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon, waiting for the eastern glow.

The apples of the valley hold the seeds of happiness,
The ground is rich from tender care,
Repay, do not forget, no, no.

Dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The apples turn to brown and black,
The tyrant's face is red.

Oh war is the common cry,
Pick up your swords and fly.
The sky is filled with good and bad
That mortals never know.

Oh, well, the night is long, the beads of time pass slow,
Tired eyes on the sunrise, waiting for the eastern glow.

The pain of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath,
The drums will shake the castle wall,
The ring wraiths ride in black, ride on.

Sing as you raise your bow,
Shoot straighter than before.
No comfort has the fire at night
That lights the face so cold.

Oh dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The magic runes are writ in gold to bring the balance back.
Bring it back.

At last the sun is shining,
The clouds of blue roll by,
With flames from the dragon of darkness,
The sunlight blinds his eyes.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 27th, 2016, 11:14pm

Who knows what caused this, but I hope ya don't mind me posting it here Z .

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20161228-56538-CAN

Biological Hazard in Canada on December 28 2016 04:14 AM (UTC).

A marine mystery is confounding residents of southwest Nova Scotia who are watching thousands of dead fish, starfish, crabs, clams, scallops and lobster wash up on the shore. Residents of Plympton, a small community in Digby County, say they have been finding dead herring on the shore of St. Mary's Bay for more than a month, but recently other marine life has started washing up dead. Dead fish have also been found on the shores of the Annapolis Basin. "We started finding starfish, crabs, flounder. We found ocean perch and then yesterday we started finding scallops on the beach and like I said everything's dead... we'd like to know what's going on," said Karl Cole. "It's just really sad to see, you know, hundreds of starfish, shellfish. I grew up clamming here so to come to your hometown and see so much death on the beach is really sad," said Eric Hewey. Hewey took photos of the beach and posted them to his Facebook page Monday, writing: "Herring, Lobster, Bar clams, Starfish and more. No idea what caused this. Likely it could be a natural disaster. Please try not to jump to any conclusions until we get a response from Natural Resources, or another credible source." In less than a day his post has been shared almost 11,000 times and garnered more than 1,000 comments. Many people are ignoring Hewey's admonishment and suggesting their own theories about what happened. But there are still no answers. On Dec. 15, Fisheries and Oceans Canada announced that tests on the dead herring had produced negative results, meaning no infections or infectious agents had been detected in the small, silvery fish. It said it would continue testing and warned consumers to only buy herring from licensed harvesters until they figure out why the fished died. Residents say the department is aware of the latest developments and has taken samples for further testing. CTV Atlantic reached out to the department for comment on Tuesday, but did not receive a response.


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Dec 28th, 2016, 1:02pm


Scientists Find New Kind Of Fukushima Fallout


Some of the radioactive material that escaped the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactor in 2011 took a form no one was looking for, scientists have discovered. Now they have to figure out what it means for Japan and for future disasters.

Continue Here :
http://www.forbes.com/sites/samlemonick/2016/06/30/scientists-find-new-kind-of-fukushima-fallout/#5ecdc2f94126

Long as I remember,
the rain been comin' down.
Clouds of mystery pourin,'
confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages,
tryin' to find the sun.
And I wonder, still I wonder,
WHO'LL STOP THE RAIN ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNrsJNtd_bc

History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men

Glass-zilla !



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Dec 30th, 2016, 3:14pm

on Dec 28th, 2016, 1:02pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Scientists Find New Kind Of Fukushima Fallout


Some of the radioactive material that escaped the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactor in 2011 took a form no one was looking for, scientists have discovered. Now they have to figure out what it means for Japan and for future disasters.

Continue Here :
http://www.forbes.com/sites/samlemonick/2016/06/30/scientists-find-new-kind-of-fukushima-fallout/#5ecdc2f94126



"Operators and plant managers had a " flawed" understanding of the critical cooling system" undecided


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ogndQrY-Tw

Fukushima Disaster - The Details

" Lacked the right kinds of operational skills " rolleyes



"No man should escape our universities without knowing how little he knows".
~ J. Robert Oppenheimer



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jan 6th, 2017, 10:53am

The Pacific Ocean is Dying – Fukushima nuclear plant Causing Horrific Mutations

armydotmil, January 2, 2017

The Pacific Ocean appears to be dying, according to a new study recently published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Scientists from the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) in California recently discovered that the number of dead sea creatures blanketing the floor of the Pacific is higher than it has ever been in the 24 years that monitoring has taken place, a phenomenon that the data suggests is a direct consequence of nuclear fallout from Fukushima.

Though the researchers involved with the work have been reluctant to pin Fukushima as a potential cause — National Geographic, which covered the study recently, did not even mention Fukushima — the timing of the discovery suggests that Fukushima is, perhaps, the cause. According to the data, this sudden explosion in so-called “sea snot,” which is the name given to the masses of dead sea creatures that sink to the ocean floor as food, has skyrocketed since the Fukushima incident occurred.

“In the 24 years of this study, the past two years have been the biggest amounts of this detritus by far,” stated Christine Huffard, a marine biologist at MBARI and leader of the study, to National Geographic.

At an ocean research station known as Station M, located 145 miles out to sea between the Californian cities of Santa Barbara and Monterey, Huffard and her colleague Ken Smith observed a sharp uptick in the amount of dead sea life drifting to the ocean floor. The masses of dead sea plankton, jellyfish, feces and other oceanic matter that typically only cover about 1 percent of the ocean floor were found to now be covering about 98 percent of it — and multiple other stations located throughout the Pacific have since reported similar figures.

Are we starting to see more than just sea life die-offs and strange behavior from the massive radioactive water dumps into the Pacific ocean from the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant?

Are we to see more animal mutations that are associated with radiation? Photos from a couple places of this mutated baby whale, two heads, two tails, which looks like two whales had been fused together. (See video)

With all the strange behavior of multiple different sea creatures as well as the dead sea life scattered along 98 percent of the ocean floor, We are now seeing more proof that the Fukushima radiation is destroying us by air and by sea,
Defenders Of The Constitution !!!

WATCH VIDEO: http://armydotmil.com/the-pacific-ocean-is-dying-fukushima-nuclear-plant-causing-horrific-mutations/

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Post by GhostofEd on Jan 6th, 2017, 11:57am

In reading the paper as best I could not being a biologist or oceanographer(?) I think the correlation to Fukushima is premature especially given the report title is "Deep ocean communities impacted by changing climate over 24 y in the abyssal northeast Pacific Ocean".

Source: http://www.pnas.org/content/110/49/19838.full

Yes, there is the fact that Fukushima happened within these 24 years but I see nothing to support a scientific basis that is the cause for the studies observations except to fall back on the correlation equals causality fallacy. Another red flag for me is that this conclusion is being advocated by Infowars, NaturalNews, erenews who have clear agendas.

I wonder why the news articles use:

The Pacific Ocean is Dying – Fukushima nuclear plant Causing Horrific Mutations

Study: Dead sea creatures cover 98 percent of ocean floor off California coast; up from 1 percent before Fukushima

which seems quite a spin on the actual study intent and findings. I trust my reading and interpretation of the paper more then what any of these outlets are trying to push. Do they think people are not going to track down the paper which was conveniently(?) not directly linked or quoted from. Instead it was based on what Infowars picks up from NaturalNews who uses some person by the name of Grammy who comments on National National Geographic articles. This gives an illusion National Geographic agrees with the Fukushima connection.

Perhaps this is a candidate for fake news. grin
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by LoneGunMan on Jan 6th, 2017, 12:03pm

Ghost
They (the authors of many reports)are also ignoring the fact that China and most of the pacific rim is being fished out by mostly China but others as well. The only countries that are truly using conservation are the US and Canada.

China also uses dredging or dragging at extreme depths that other counties don't because of the damage it does! They ignore the principle of diminishing returns!

Lone


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Jan 6th, 2017, 2:49pm

I have yet to see a report things are getting better..we can use a sat to spot a planet light years away..tell what kind of atmosphere and mass..yet unable to point any to the pacific to see whats up with the micro life like they did in the Antarctic.
Just boggles the mind.. sad
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Post by ZETAR on Jan 6th, 2017, 4:55pm

SYS DETERMINES,

TO WIT:

"Just boggles the mind.."

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SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 6th, 2017, 11:19pm

Flying Saucers to Mind Control: 22 Declassified Military & CIA Secrets

By Denise Chow and Elizabeth Peterson, Live Science | January 4, 2017

A Secret History

http://www.livescience.com/40172-declassified-military-cia-secrets.html?utm_source=notification

Purr ?


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 6th, 2017, 11:59pm

CLIFF,

TO WIT:

"Purr ?"


"Government and military secrets can range from terrifying to amusing to downright absurd, but most are nothing short of intriguing. From a secret...to train domesticated cats to spy on the Soviet Union"

I'M GUESSING PURR GOT THE MEMO wink

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SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jan 7th, 2017, 09:40am

TARGETING VIEW COUNTS!

I DO NOT BELIEVE NOR SUBSCRIBE TO COINCIDENCE! ~ ALAS...“Trifles light as air are to the jealous confirmations strong as proofs of holy writ.”
― William Shakespeare, Othello


481 ~ REPLIES

116 ~ VIEWS

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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." ~ Aldous Huxley

Officials State 1/3 of the World’s Oceans May Be Contaminated with Fukushima Radiation

http://wakingtimesmedia.com/officials-state-13-of-the-worlds-oceans-may-be-contaminated-with-fukushima-radiation/

The Fukushima nuclear meltdown has had exponential repercussions on the world. When the disaster happened, the media was all over it. People were concerned and wanted action. But very quickly, the media’s eye turned to another matter, than another, than another. Now, very few people likely think about the Fukushima disaster and what mark it made on the world.

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Regardless of the lack of mainstream media attention, the Fukushima nuclear disaster is still affecting the world today.

“An urgent and harmonised regional approach is essential to optimise and coordinate the application of the available skills and resources in the region in order to benchmark the possible impact of this release of radioactivity…

“The area potentially affected may encompass much of the Pacific Ocean, which covers one third of the area of the globe.”


SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by SuzyQ on Jan 8th, 2017, 2:53pm

on Jan 6th, 2017, 11:19pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
Flying Saucers to Mind Control: 22 Declassified Military & CIA Secrets

By Denise Chow and Elizabeth Peterson, Live Science | January 4, 2017

A Secret History

http://www.livescience.com/40172-declassified-military-cia-secrets.html?utm_source=notification

Purr ?



3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoheCz4t2xc

Hypnotize


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Jan 14th, 2017, 7:49pm

The United Nations has warned of an oil spill south of the Iraqi city of Mosul, near the town of Qayara that was retaken from Islamic State militants some four months ago. The warnings came in a report released this week on environmental damages caused by oil fires intentionally started by retreating IS militants. U.N. satellite images published on Tuesday show environmental damage from the fires. The world body says 11 of the fires have been extinguished, but 29 continue to burn, sending thick black smoke into the air. The report warns the spill, described as new, is close to a tributary of the Tigris River, which in turn could mean an oil leak into the key artery, and that parts of the spill are on fire.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20170114-56771-IRQ
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I haven't found that image yet, but I did dig this up from August 2016 :
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For the past few months, a smoke plume has shifted with the winds over northern Iraq. In recent years, periodic oil fires have cast a dark pall over this arid landscape. They are one consequence of ongoing war in the region.

On August 17, 2016, the Operational Land Imager (OLI) on Landsat 8 acquired an image (above) of dense smoke plumes roughly 50 kilometers (30 miles) south of Mosul. There appear to be multiple sources of fire, most likely oil wells from the Qayyarah oil field. The images in the grid below show the plumes changing direction and thickness since they were first spotted by Landsat 8 on June 14.

The current smoke event recalls fires in neighboring Kuwait during the 1990s Persian Gulf War. Iraqi troops ignited more than 700 oil wells during that conflict.

Ronald Ferek of the U.S. Office of Naval Research saw those fires firsthand in June 1991. “We flew across whole plumes and did a cross-section, calculating how many barrels had to be burning,” he said. His team used LIDAR to quantify carbon flux and deduce the carbon dioxide emitted. The fires consumed roughly 4.6 million barrels of oil a day, according to their estimates.

At the time, some scientists warned of dire effects, including a “nuclear winter” cooling effect at Earth’s surface. Some airborne smoke particles can reflect sunlight, driving down temperatures on the ground. Following the theory, particles in the oil smoke would rise into the stratosphere and stay aloft for weeks or months over the Northern Hemisphere.
But most of the fires in Kuwait did not spill over and burn in pools standing on the ground, as predicted. Instead, they caught fire in the air, Ferek said, when oil shot out of the ground at high pressures.
“At 15,000 PSI (pounds per square inch), oil comes out like an aerosol spray can rather than a garden hose,” he said. As result, the flames were bathed in oxygen and burned more cleanly than earlier research had indicated they would.

Continue Reading Here :
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=88666&src=eorss-iotd&utm_term=NASA&utm_source=Twitterfeed&utm_medium=Facebook
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Post by Swamprat on Jan 17th, 2017, 7:05pm

Navajo Nation vows to fight EPA for toxic mine spill

By Joseph J. Kolb
Published January 17, 2017

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The House Committee on Natural Resources released a damning report on the EPA and how they handled the August 2015 Gold King Mine disaster in Colorado, and its aftermath. (AP)

Navajo Nation officials say they are outraged the Environmental Protection Agency is refusing to pay millions of dollars in claims filed against it following the devastating Colorado Gold Mine spill.

The federal agency has accepted responsibility for the August 2015 disaster, which devastated farm and grazing lands in southern Colorado and northwest New Mexico. But it announced late last week that it was not legally able to pay claims submitted by farmers and livestock owners.

“The Navajo Nation call upon our Congressional leaders from the states of Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona to do what is right for our people by demanding that the U.S. EPA reconsider its decision and that the U.S. EPA provide full compensation to the many Navajo people who sustained extensive losses due to the spill that was caused by the agency,” Navajo Nation speaker Lorenzo Bates said last Saturday.

“When the law allows the government to hide from those whom it has harmed, the law must change,” Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO) said in a statement.

In a dramatic speech on the banks of the Animas River last August, Navajo Nation President Russell Begaye announced that the tribe was filing a $159 million lawsuit for damages and $3.2 million to cover expenses that had not been paid.

The suit was in response to what the tribe said was an inadequate gesture by the EPA to reimburse them $602,000.

Last Friday, the EPA said it was legally prohibited from paying the claims because of sovereign immunity, which prohibits most lawsuits against the government. The agency said the only legal option left is to either refile the claims in federal court or have Congress authorize the payments.

This announcement added insult to injury for Lenora Williams of Upper Fruitland, N.M., who saw 14 acres of her family farm dry up after the spill.

“They are weaseling out of a big mess they made,” Williams said. “The EPA knew they did this.”

The toxic spill had a profound economic and emotional impact on Williams and her family, who have been farming on the land for at least five generations.

“We [planted] Indian corn, melons, and veggies and didn’t get to see them grow,” she said, her voice cracking. “We watched with great heartache and pain as our crops dried up.”

Williams said her family farm helps feed relatives and friends further out on the reservation who do not have access to water or fresh fruit and vegetables.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/17/navajo-nation-vows-to-fight-epa-for-toxic-mine-spill.html


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Post by Swamprat on Jan 17th, 2017, 7:08pm

Fukushima Much Bigger Than Chernobyl

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Japan’s nuclear disaster is “much bigger than Chernobyl” and could rewrite the international scale used to measure the severity of atomic accidents, a Russian expert said. “Chernobyl was a dirty bomb explosion. The next dirty bomb is Fukushima and it will cost much more” in economic and human terms, said Natalia Mironova, a thermodynamic engineer and anti-nuclear activist in Russia.

Chernobyl, which a 2005 report by UN bodies called “the most severe in the history of the nuclear power industry,” was ranked a seven on the International Nuclear Event Scale (INES). Mironova said, “Chernobyl was level seven and it had only one reactor and lasted only two weeks. We have now have years from Fukushima and we have four reactors which we know are in very dangerous situations,” she warned. Environmental groups such as Greenpeace say up to 100,000 people could die.

UFOs have a way of showing up before, during and after natural disasters. This recent earthquake of 2011 has seen an increase in UFO activity just prior to the disaster with many seen during and after Fukushima in Japan.

Two globes the size of beach balls, one black and the other fuzzy white, both opaque with short tails, were seen by a helicopter exiting the 20 foot wave onto the beach in Japan. See Videos of tsunami on YouTube.com/ Japan.

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Japan’s Nuclear Plants Dumps Radioactive Water into Sea

Contaminated water pouring out of the Fukushima nuclear plant has raised concerns about the safety of seafood prompting the government to set limits for the first time on the amount of radiation permitted in fish. The company that owns the plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co., said that the leak of highly radioactive water had been stopped.

According to the Agence France –Presse TEMPCO was pumping 300 tons of groundwater for treatment before pumping into storage. It is tested for radiation and then pumped into the Pacific Ocean. The company has frequently been criticized for dumping large amounts of radioactive water into the sea.

The leak had lessened after the company began pouring liquid glass into gravel below the concrete pit that had been the source of the leak. Radiation is some 5 million times the legal limits. The Japanese built 40 percent of their coast with seawalls that were only 33 feet high. When the 9.0 quake hit and the Tsunami went over the seawalls the diesel-powered generators and water pumps on the ground floors of the nuclear power plants stopped. The temperature rose to 2200 degrees F that led to explosions and fire in the reactors. Workers the real heroes fighting the catastrophe tried to contain the overheating, fires, possible meltdowns and radioactivity. Five years later the radiation continues to flow into the Pacific Ocean causing the death of many types of sea life and danger to you if you eat the fish.

Celene Pascal of American University did a study of the content of 2100 articles and editorials published in the New York Times, Washington Post, Politico and Huffington Post. Pascal found only 6 % referred to the risk to the general public. This is a significant finding for the focus of the news media during the largest nuclear disaster in history does not protect the public.

Thanks to Nexus Magazine

http://nationalufocenter.com/2017/01/filers-files-3-2017-general-twinings-report-on-ufos/


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Post by Sys_Config on Jan 22nd, 2017, 02:37am

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170119134534.htm

Treated carbon pulls radioactive elements from water
Researchers have developed unique sorbents, target Fukushima accident site

Date:
January 19, 2017
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Rice University
Summary:
Scientists have developed inexpensive, oxidized carbon particles that extract radioactive metals from water. They said their materials may help purify contaminated waters stored after the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident.
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C-seal F, a source used to synthesize oxidatively modified carbon, is seen magnified 20 times by a scanning electron microscope. The material is highly effective at removing radionuclides from water, according to researchers at Rice University and Kazan Federal University.
Credit: Kazan Federal University

Researchers at Rice University and Kazan Federal University in Russia have found a way to extract radioactivity from water and said their discovery could help purify the hundreds of millions of gallons of contaminated water stored after the Fukushima nuclear plant accident.

They reported that their oxidatively modified carbon (OMC) material is inexpensive and highly efficient at absorbing radioactive metal cations, including cesium and strontium, toxic elements released into the environment when the Fukushima plant melted down after an earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.

OMC can easily trap common radioactive elements found in water floods from oil extraction, such as uranium, thorium and radium, said Rice chemist James Tour, who led the project with Ayrat Dimiev, a former postdoctoral researcher in his lab and now a research professor at Kazan Federal University.

The material makes good use of the porous nature of two specific sources of carbon, Tour said. One is an inexpensive, coke-derived powder known as C-seal F, used by the oil industry as an additive to drilling fluids. The other is a naturally occurring, carbon-heavy mineral called shungite found mainly in Russia.

The results appear this month in Carbon.

Tour and researchers at Lomonosov Moscow State University had already demonstrated a method to remove radionuclides from water using graphene oxide as a sorbent, as reported in Solvent Extraction and Ion Exchange late last year, but the new research suggests OMC is easier and far less expensive to process.

Treating the carbon particles with oxidizing chemicals increased their surface areas and "decorated" them with the oxygen molecules needed to adsorb the toxic metals. The particles were between 10 and 80 microns wide.

While graphene oxide excelled at removing strontium, Tour said, the two types of OMC were better at extracting cesium, which he said has been the hardest element to remove from water stored at Fukushima. The OMC was also much easier and less expensive to synthesize and to use in a standard filtration system, he said.

"We know we can use graphene oxide to trap the light radioactive elements of relevance to the Fukushima cleanup, namely cesium and strontium," Tour said. "But in the second study, we learned we can move from graphene oxide, which remains more expensive and harder to make, to really cheap oxidized coke and related carbons to trap these elements."

While other materials used for remediation of radioactive waste need to be stored with the waste they capture, carbon presents a distinct advantage, he said. "Carbon that has captured the elements can be burned in a nuclear incinerator, leaving only a very small amount of radioactive ash that's much easier to store," Tour said.

"Just passing contaminated water through OMC filters will extract the radioactive elements and permit safe discharge to the ocean," he said. "This could be a major advance for the cleanup effort at Fukushima."

The two flavors of OMC particles -- one from coke-derived carbon and the other from shungite -- look like balls of crumpled paper, or roses with highly irregular petals. The researchers tested them by mixing the sorbents with contaminated water as well as through column filtration, a standard process in which fluid is pumped or pulled by gravity through a filter to remove contaminants.

In the mixing test, the labs dispersed nonradioactive isotopes of strontium and cesium in spring water, added OMC and stirred for two hours. After filtering out the sorbent, they measured the particles left in the water.

OMC1 (from coke) proved best at removing both cesium and strontium from contaminated water, getting significantly better as the sorbent was increased. A maximum 800 milligrams of OMC1 removed about 83 percent of cesium and 68 percent of strontium from 100 milliliters of water, they reported.

OMC2 (from shungite) in the same concentrations adsorbed 70 percent of cesium and 47 percent of strontium.

The researchers were surprised to see that plain shungite particles extracted almost as much cesium as its oxidized counterpart. "Interestingly, plain shungite was used by local people for water purification from ancient times," Dimiev said. "But we have increased its efficiency many times, as well as revealed the factors behind its effectiveness."
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In column filtration tests, which involved flowing 1,400 milliliters of contaminated water through an OMC filter in 100-milliliter amounts, the filter removed nearly 93 percent of cesium and 92 percent of strontium in a single pass. The researchers were able to contain and isolate contaminants trapped in the filter material.

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Post by A k 9 on Jan 25th, 2017, 11:29pm


Crane falls on Takahama plant building housing spent nuclear fuel

Fukui, Japan, Jan. 21, Kyodo

A crane collapsed Friday night at the Takahama power station in Fukui Prefecture, western Japan, damaging a building housing spent nuclear fuel, the plant operator said Saturday.

No one was injured in the accident, which occurred around 9:50 p.m. near the plant's No. 2 reactor building, and although the roof of the adjacent building was damaged, nothing fell into the spent nuclear fuel pool below it, according to the operator, Kansai Electric Power Co.

The crane also damaged the roof of another building nearby. A wind warning was in effect in the area, and strong winds were blowing at that time, according to the utility.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/photos/2017/01/454780.html

In other Kyodo News :

2 more nuclear reactors in southwestern Japan pass safety checks

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2017/01/454176.html
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Post by Swamprat on Jan 29th, 2017, 2:45pm

https://www.facebook.com/YearsOfLiving/videos/1239660109454378/
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Post by A k 9 on Feb 1st, 2017, 3:59pm


Environment Pollution in USA

January 31 2017 11:24 AM (UTC).

A major plutonium plant at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington state has been put on pause after radioactive contamination spread outside the facility. A radiation monitor alarm sounded Friday while crews were working to contain radioactive contamination on a waste pile. The contamination was found where workers planned to contain it during the demolition.
Radiological surveys identified low levels of contamination on workers' protective clothing but no contamination on the clothing they wore underneath or on their skin. Nasal smears also found no evidence of inhaled contamination.
Project contractor CH2M Hill Plateau Remediation says the company is investigating how the contamination spread and will take steps to reduce the risk of another incident. Demolition is expected to resume next week.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20170131-56975-USA


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Post by Swamprat on Feb 2nd, 2017, 6:11pm

Dulce, New Mexico is not about aliens…..it’s about humans and a lingering problem that has been kept from the public

July 10, 2016 CIVILIAN INTELLIGENCE NEWS SERVICE

WATCH THE FOLLOWING SHORT VIDEO:

Underground nuclear explosion near Dulce, New Mexico in 1967:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJwjxWUnRk

Although this 1967 experiment was intended to ease the flow of natural gas in the surrounding areas, the after-effect of this test was not all positive: Radiation slowly began to leak in the surrounding areas.

Dulce, New Mexico is not about aliens. It is about humans and the lingering health problems that have been kept from the public.

It’s about the likelihood that the government conducted tests on radiation by selectively choosing particular cows in the Dulce area, beginning in the mid 1970s. This type of research may have involved analyses of certain organs and tissues and may also have involved clandestine operations utilizing some prototypes of unmanned aerial vehicles or even unmarked helicopters.

But more important than that, there is a lingering problem that must be dealt with, i.e., the lingering physical effect on Native Americans from that 1967 experiment, as one can see from the high rate of cancer as well as problems with infertility among women in the Dulce area. This type of condition may continue through the next generation of residents that were affected.

This issue must come out in the open.

From a Jicarilla Apache member: "Hello. I am a member of The Jicarilla Apache Nation. My father passed from a brain tumor in 06. My Mother was just diagnosed on 1-13-17 with a brain tumor. I honestly believe there are no coincidences here. The radiation lingering effects are making my people sick with cancer. I myself can't have any children. Please help. I have contacted several attorney's who are Native American and specialize in Federal Indian Law. No replies yet."

Although not directly related to Project Gasbuggy, here is a significant report about Native Americans still suffering from after-effects of radiation:

NATIVE AMERICANS SUFFERING DECADES AFTER NEW MEXICO TESTS:
https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/natives-suffering-decades-after-new-mexico-tests/


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Post by ZETAR on Feb 2nd, 2017, 9:18pm

EXCELLENT FIND SWAMP!!!

Record high fatal radiation levels, hole in reactor detected at crippled Fukushima nuclear facility

https://www.rt.com/news/376107-fukushima-record-radiation-level/

Record high radiation levels that’s lethal even after brief exposure have been detected at a damaged reactor at the Fukushima power plant in Japan. Specialists also found a hole, likely caused by melted nuclear fuel.

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Radiation levels of up to 530 Sieverts per hour were detected inside an inactive Reactor 2 at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex damaged during the 2011 earthquake and tsunami catastrophe, Japanese media reported on Thursday citing the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO).

A hole of no less than one square meter in size has also been discovered beneath the reactor's pressure vessel, TEPCO said. According to researchers, the apparent opening in the metal grating of one of three reactors that had melted down in 2011, is believed to be have been caused by melted nuclear fuel that fell through the vessel.

A dose of about 8 Sieverts is considered incurable and fatal.

SHALOM...Z


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 2nd, 2017, 9:31pm

bump
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Post by ZETAR on Feb 2nd, 2017, 10:16pm

SYS,

TO WIT:


"bump"

INDEED!

SHALOM...Z

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 5th, 2017, 02:01am


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/tepco-admits-fukushima-radiation-levels-reach-record-highs-hole-reactor-discovered

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Hey Joe..Over here up there I saw something over there. It glow and go underground this is all big coverup I know because American horse told me so. . tongue
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Post by A k 9 on Feb 5th, 2017, 4:11pm

on Feb 5th, 2017, 02:01am, Sys_Config wrote:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/tepco-admits-fukushima-radiation-levels-reach-record-highs-hole-reactor-discovered

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Hey Joe..Over here up there I saw something over there. It glow and go underground this is all big coverup I know because American horse told me so. . tongue


If a robot can't get near it for very long, or man, how do they plan on cleaning it up ?


undecided
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 5th, 2017, 11:26pm

They can send probes to the sun but cant here. They can photograph plankton dying in antarctic..but not the Pacicic near Fukushima..simply because..they dont want to.



vital1
February 5, 2017 at 6:13 pm Log in to Reply

Why are so many whales and other Pacific sea life starving to death?

Use the information in the links below to educate people.

This view is sported by Dr. Sternglass's research paper below. It clearly demonstrates how nuclear contamination from the nuclear bomb testing era caused a significant crash in Pacific Ocean fish stocks. If this was the case then, it would be logical to assume that the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe is having a similar effect.

Quote:

“The purpose of the study was to determine whether continued atmospheric testing by France and China or potential releases from underground detonations that might unexpectedly escape into the nearby fishing grounds could have detectable effects on the reproduction of fish populations similar to the unanticipatedly severe effects of low level radiation on the human embryo and fetus (2, 3, 4) recently confirmed by independent studies by other investigators (5, 6).”

http://sccc.org.au/the-pacific-ocean-is-dying

A Scientific Basis For Destruction Of Ocean Food Chain Via Radiation

https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/a-scientific-basis-for-destruction-of.html

http://enenews.com/tv-woah-dead-whales-record-high-number-of-deaths-in-hawaii-carcasses-scattered-throughout-islands-in-pacific-sick-ans-starving-animals-a-mystery-to-scientists-possible-health


They are starving for a reason..if plankton dies..they cannot eat..the radiation wont show up in whales because there was nothing to eat/ When there is nothing to eat..females will not breed///especially if there are no males left to breed with..
Somehow this escapes them.. it will be clearer as the die offs continue..










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Post by Sys_Config on Feb 6th, 2017, 2:16pm

http://www.infowars.com/northern-hemisphere-potentially-in-great-danger-as-fukushima-radiation-spikes-to-unimaginable-levels/

same as prior but with additional information for your dining pleasure cool


http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a25034/radiation-spikes-fukushima-possible-breach/

they hope to remove the fuel by 2021 undecided
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Post by INT21 on Feb 6th, 2017, 2:40pm

Sys,

...Why are so many whales and other Pacific sea life starving to death?..

Could be because Krill, staple food of many whales, like cold water.

And the oceans are slowly heating up.

HAL
INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 6th, 2017, 2:57pm


" They hope ".....


I hope so too, but have many doubts.....







Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Feb 6th, 2017, 3:05pm

Cliff,

Odd, considering the attention this matter is getting, that no one (preferably a qualified marine scientist) is publishing regular radiation levels from the oceans in question.

It has been done for years on land.

By the way, nice photo of the green comet.

HAL
INT21

p.s. Damn, I forgot. Everyone knows that scientists lie through their teeth. wink
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Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 6th, 2017, 3:44pm


Here's Woods Hole

https://www.whoi.edu/main/topic/fukushima-radiation

Cesium isn't the only concern. Throughout time it only gets worse . Imo.


EDIT TO ADD :

http://www.whoi.edu/news-release/fukushima-site-still-leaking


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Post by Sys_Config on Feb 6th, 2017, 4:01pm

I thought this was a resonable scientific look..that states there is no danger..then the buts and caveats

http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/01/is-the-sea-floor-littered-with-dead-animals-due-to-radiation-no/


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Post by INT21 on Feb 6th, 2017, 4:28pm

Cliff, Sys.

Thanks for those links.

I'll need a while to study them before offering a comment.

INT21
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 6th, 2017, 4:51pm

on Feb 6th, 2017, 4:28pm, INT21 wrote:
Cliff, Sys.

Thanks for those links.

I'll need a while to study them before offering a comment.

INT21


I don't mind at all Hal none of us want to sound like a choir..its very consistent with some of what you pointed out Its important for all of us to read everything and both sides....temp..currents. climate .which he admits is a lot more dynamic than we thought..but he also points or acknowledges the collective impact from the nuke tests..chernobyl..and the radiation..albeit not horrific as some reports.. has made it to us. and several fish he would not consume..anything from japan.or the black sea..like caviar...as if it had some wall around it to protect us...so while not saying it is an accelerant it is a form of access denied to food sources amid a growing population but fish in a dynamic system don't know that.Whilst a forest can burn and acts a catalyst for later new growth..it doesnt seem to work that way in the oceans..
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Post by Swamprat on Feb 8th, 2017, 2:15pm

At least this much made the msm.....


Incredibly high radiation levels discovered at crippled Fukushima plant

Published February 08, 2017
Fox News.com

Newly-discovered radiation levels in one of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant’s reactors are stunningly high, the Japan Times and others have reported. The space is so radioactive that even a robot couldn’t last two hours, let alone a human.

It was on March 11, 2011, that the coastal power plant in Japan’s Fukushima Prefecture was hit by a tidal wave, which not only cut off the plant’s electrical power, also took out the generators that provided its backup power. The natural disaster triggered the meltdown of three reactors at the plant.

The new readings come from inside reactor two, where the radiation levels are 530 sieverts per hour, according to Tepco, the Tokyo Electric Power Company. That’s highly radioactive— most radiation is measured in thousandths of a sievert, a unit called a millisievert.

One dental X-ray is just .01 millisievert, according to the Guardian— which also pointed out that 10 sieverts can lead to death.

At the end of January, Tepco said that they had taken, from inside reaction two, “intriguing images that may be fuel debris from the March 2011 accident,” but needed to study them more. (They have provided more information of their findings in this PDF.): http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2017/images/handouts_170130_02-e.pdf

The company would like to deploy a robot, but the robot would be fried before even two hours at those radiation levels, since it is designed to endure 1000 sieverts, according to the Japan Times.

The radiation levels are the highest yet measured at the devastated plant, which could take as many as four decades to fully deal with.

Not since Chernobyl suffered a catastrophic meltdown in 1986 in the former Soviet Union has the world witnessed such a serious nuclear accident— and it was only in 2016 that experts succeeded in covering Chernobyl’s site with a large protective dome to protect the concrete sarcophagus.

Watch video: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/08/incredibly-high-radiation-levels-discovered-at-crippled-fukushima-plant.html


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Post by Swamprat on Feb 10th, 2017, 2:42pm

In deep hole, a chance for economic improvement?

Posted: Saturday, January 7, 2017
By Rebecca Moss
The New Mexican

NARA VISA, N.M. — They say the price of gas was the last straw. It was too costly to bring fuel to this tiny speck of a town 50 miles northeast of Tucumcari along the Texas border. And too few buyers were interested once it got here. When the last truck stop, the Red-X, closed down, the cafe and one of two motels followed. People started leaving. Kids grew up and moved away with too few jobs available for miles along these vast, desert plains that turn purple like a bruise in winter. They didn’t bring their families back. That was 11 years ago.

Now the town has a ghost-like quality. There’s just a fast highway down the main stretch and homes tucked away along dirt roads, many abandoned with the doors left open and windows broken. Over the years, the wind and rain have seeped in, rotting the wood and sweeping in layers of red dirt. The signs for the Bell St. Mini Mart, Ira’s Bar and the Rockin’ Horse antique shop are weatherworn and washed out almost beyond recognition, with bent venetian blinds drawn sideways and concrete roofs partially caved in. A handmade sign nailed to a wooden portico on the main street reads, “Keep Out.”

Nara Visa was never big to begin with, but fewer than 100 people remain.

This near emptiness, however, has attracted a new business to the community, one that promises, like a honey-toned traveling salesman, to bring jobs — and maybe even a grocery store — by way of the nuclear waste industry.

The U.S. Department of Energy, Quay County and two energy development companies say the nation’s latest nuclear waste experiment could inject as much as $40 million into the county’s economy. Nara Visa residents just have to agree to let the companies drill a three-mile-deep borehole — seven times deeper than the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in Carlsbad — into the crystalline, granite crust of the earth a few miles outside of town, on land currently occupied by fat, black cattle.

Right now, the project is pegged as a scientific experiment, and the Department of Energy says no nuclear waste will be placed in the test borehole. Still, the ultimate goal is to find a permanent place to dispose of the ever-growing and deadly stockpile of spent nuclear fuel rods and high-level radioactive waste collected at nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons laboratories nationwide.

Until this year, no town in the United States had agreed to the proposal. But when the Quay County Commission approved the plan in October, it put Nara Visa on track to become the first.

Community buy-in

About seven miles outside Nara Visa, there is a small, gravel roadside park where semi-truck drivers pull off U.S. 54 to sleep. Below the earth, the granite is devoid of oil but just right for deep drilling.

These 10 acres belong to Louis and Elaine James, who’ve agreed to lease it to the government as a deep borehole test site.

“I think it’s exciting,” said Elaine James, 65. “A lot of the people’s concerns are what might happen in the future, because of the type of experiments they are doing, but basically it is just a science project.”

She raised four children in Nara Visa and said it would be nice for future generations to learn about fields outside of ranching, like science and math. “Kids are limited to what careers might be available because we don’t have industry.”

“For me, it’s kind of like our space program,” she continued. “A lot of people thought that was a waste of money, but so much of our technology and medical fields have benefited from the space program.”

As far as the nuclear waste component is concerned, Louis James, 69, said, “I have more of a problem with it sitting over at Pantex 100 miles away than I do with it being under the ground, because you know it will get you if they ever attack those spots.” He was referring to the Pantex Plant, a nuclear weapons assembly facility outside Amarillo, Texas.

While he doesn’t think the nuclear waste will necessarily come to Nara Visa, he said, “the atomic bomb has made us a free nation now, so it’s gotta be put somewhere.”

The test hole planned for the James’ property is meant to be just 8 1/2 inches wide but would go deep below ground, first through the water table and a mile through sediment before hitting the top of a crystalline rock layer. From there, the hole would be drilled another two miles into the Earth. This is the layer where nuclear waste would be stored, then sealed off with a steel casing and concrete to protect the environment and water in the mile span separating the waste from the land’s surface.

Utah-based DOSECC Exploration Services LLC and Enercon Federal Services, Inc., based in Atlanta, are developing the Nara Visa proposal and are one of four groups that have been granted the go-ahead from the Department of Energy for Phase 1 of the project. This is referred to as “community buy-in,” gaining not only public approval but also support for the project, and securing the land for the borehole site.

If DOSECC and Enercon win this bid, they will get $35 million over a five-year period to drill the first hole. The Department of Energy will grant an additional $50 million to drill a second, wider borehole, with a 17 1/2-inch diameter, if the first is successful.

Peter Mast, president of Enercon Federal Services, said the project could create 20 temporary jobs and between six and 12 permanent positions. At a public meeting in Nara Visa in October, he told residents that workers might need lodging, food and laundry services, which could create more jobs.

When the Quay County Commission approved the proposal Oct. 10, it emphasized that the project would encourage investment in the county and educational programs for citizens and public school students, and that, “at the end of the project, an effort will be made to turn this deep granite borehole into a permanent subsurface geologic observatory.”

State Rep. Dennis Roch, a Republican from the nearby village of Logan who is also the superintendent of the Logan Municipal Schools, said his science and math teachers are excited about the project, as are educators at Mesalands Community College in Tucumcari.

“The entire region could use a shot in the arm of federal dollars,” he said. “But I’m more interested in the educational opportunities.”


The borehole could create these opportunities by establishing a type of below-surface laboratory to study geology and geothermal energy. A nearly six-mile-deep borehole near Windischeschenbach, Germany, has been used in this way. Another exists in Russia.

Needs and concerns
Despite these promises, some residents in Nara Visa are skeptical, wondering why federal officials would spend so much money drilling a hole if they weren’t going to put nuclear waste in it.

“I don’t really know what to think,” another resident, Ada Niles, 76, said of the borehole project. She went to one of the community meetings held in Nara Visa in October by Enercon’s president, Mast, and said, “The guy talked like it’d be a good thing. Then the kids got on the computer. … If they are going to put nuclear waste in [the borehole], we don’t want it.”

Niles raises cattle, like most people in Nara Visa, and runs the Western Stars Motel, the only business in town aside from the post office. It, too, may close, she said. Mostly, it’s occupied by one or two temporary construction workers who rent by the week.

“That’s the main concern with the ranchers: Is it going to affect our cattle, is it going to affect our water?” she said. She is also concerned that drilling could cause more earthquakes, like the tremors Nara Visa had over the summer. Company officials say the sites were selected to avoid harming groundwater and hitting fault lines.


Waste piling up
As of 2010, there were at least 109,300 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste and spent fuel awaiting a final resting place, according to a study that year by researchers at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. In 1987, Congress agreed to put low-level, transuranic waste at WIPP and send much of this high-level waste to Yucca Mountain in Nevada, where it would be stored in tunnels mined into the mountain rock.

Meanwhile, WIPP, after being closed for nearly three years following the radiation leak, began depositing waste below ground for the first time this month. But the stagnation of waste disposal at these facilities had left the Energy Department scrambling for alternatives, and in 2012, deep boreholes resurfaced as a potential alternative, an idea that was first floated in the 1950s.

To store all of the waste sitting at 77 U.S. facilities, the Energy Department needs to drill 950 boreholes at an estimated $20 million per hole, or $71 billion for the entire project, including transportation, environmental reclamation, monitoring and site characterization, according to the 2010 Sandia study. In contrast, Yucca Mountain was estimated to cost $96 billion.

Greg Mello, director of the Los Alamos Study Group, a community watchdog, says the government should be more transparent about exactly what type of high-level nuclear waste would go in the holes: spent fuel rods, nuclear weapons waste or down-blended plutonium.

“Before anything like this should happen,” he said, “there should be meetings around the state so a lot more clarity can be brought to the process.”

Even in Nara Visa, residents said they are still unclear about the true implications of the proposal.

“What they are putting on paper makes sense,” said Sandra Evans. “But is it going to help us or hurt us?”

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/in-deep-hole-a-chance-for-economic-improvement/article_de77d0ce-c736-55a2-8e6b-e87128a7940e.html


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Post by ZETAR on Feb 17th, 2017, 12:25am

'Scorpion' robot mission inside Fukushima reactor aborted

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-scorpion-robot-mission-fukushima-reactor.html

TEPCO, the operator of the Fukushima nuclear plant, sent the remote-controlled device into the No. 2 reactor where radiation levels have recently hit record highs.

The "scorpion" robot, so-called because it can lift up its camera-mounted tail to achieve better viewing angles, is also designed to crawl over rubble inside the damaged facility.

But it could not reach its target destination beneath a pressure vessel through which nuclear fuel is believed to have melted because the robot had difficulty moving, a company spokeswoman said.


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The robot, 60 centimetres (24 inches) long, is made by Toshiba and equipped with two cameras and sensors to gauge radiation levels and temperatures.

"Scorpion's mission is to take images of the situation and collect data inside the containment vessel," TEPCO spokesman Shinichi Nakakuki said earlier.


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Radiation levels inside the reactor were estimated last week at 650 sieverts per hour at one spot, which can effectively shut down robots in hours.

But the probe—designed to withstand up to 1,000 sieverts of radiation in total—would not sustain severe damage because it was unlikely to remain for too long at a single point, Nakakuki said.


SHALOM...Z


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 19th, 2017, 12:50am

Initial reports said the the amt of sieverts were OFF THE SCALE!
What is the Sievert reading on their meter.. This has to be well above 1000 sieverts. They are lying again to us and the Robots. Their is no oxygen to "burn" so its fission in
process. Can this explode..or just keep sizziling downward.

How many more unaware robots will we keep martyring for the cause?!
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The last robot RIP was made to withstand 1k.....they say it got stuck..if they were able to reproduce the levels..its obvious they can't they they really don't know.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Geiger_counter.jpg
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Post by Sys_Config on Feb 21st, 2017, 5:52pm


Rivers In The Sky

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Feb 21st, 2017, 10:00pm



I'm not sure how legit this story is. I'm throwing it out there for further research for those who wish to do so.....

US used depleted uranium weapons in Syria: Pentagon


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/02/15/510642/US-used-genocidal-DU-weaponry-Syria

The same with this which lead me to the story...

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20170218-57185-SYR

I'm staying "on the fence" with this one.....






Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Feb 22nd, 2017, 12:34am

on Feb 21st, 2017, 10:00pm, Cliff-67 wrote:
I'm not sure how legit this story is. I'm throwing it out there for further research for those who wish to do so.....

US used depleted uranium weapons in Syria: Pentagon


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/02/15/510642/US-used-genocidal-DU-weaponry-Syria

The same with this which lead me to the story...

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20170218-57185-SYR

I'm staying "on the fence" with this one.....







I twittered it because it was used a long time..and no one asked what what the health cost to the US and EU would be as refugees from these areas ...we know what it does to humans already and were quite content thinking the problem would stay over there and not migrate to here..but we are foolish to think so..and the impact will be enormous.
We cannot simply dismiss because the source is Iran..
it happened..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/us-depleted-uranium-as-ma_b_3812888.html


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Post by Sys_Config on Feb 22nd, 2017, 12:48am

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/14/the-united-states-used-depleted-uranium-in-syria/

fficials have confirmed that the U.S. military, despite vowing not to use depleted uranium weapons on the battlefield in Iraq and Syria, fired thousands of rounds of the munitions during two high-profile raids on oil trucks in Islamic State-controlled Syria in late 2015. The air assaults mark the first confirmed use of this armament since the 2003 Iraq invasion, when it was used hundreds of thousands of times, setting off outrage among local communities, which alleged that its toxic material caused cancer and birth defects.

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) spokesman Maj. Josh Jacques told Airwars and Foreign Policy that 5,265 armor-piercing 30 mm rounds containing depleted uranium (DU) were shot from Air Force A-10 fixed-wing aircraft on Nov. 16 and Nov. 22, 2015, destroying about 350 vehicles* in the country’s eastern desert.
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Earlier in the campaign, both coalition and U.S. officials said the ammunition had not and would not be used in anti-Islamic State operations. In March 2015, coalition spokesman John Moore said, “U.S. and coalition aircraft have not been and will not be using depleted uranium munitions in Iraq or Syria during Operation Inherent Resolve.” Later that month, a Pentagon representative told War is Boring that A-10s deployed in the region would not have access to armor-piercing ammunition containing DU because the Islamic State didn’t possess the tanks it is designed to penetrate.

It remains unclear if the November 2015 strikes occurred near populated areas. In 2003, hundreds of thousands of rounds were shot in densely settled areas during the American invasion, leading to deep resentment and fear among Iraqi civilians and anger at the highest levels of government in Baghdad. In 2014, in a U.N. report on DU, the Iraqi government expressed “its deep concern over the harmful effects” of the material.

DU weapons, it said, “constitute a danger to human beings and the environment”

DU weapons, it said, “constitute a danger to human beings and the environment” and urged the United Nations to conduct in-depth studies on their effects. Such studies of DU have not yet been completed, and scientists and doctors say as a result there is still very limited credible “direct epidemiological evidence” connecting DU to negative health effects.

The potential popular blowback from using DU, however, is very real. While the United States insists it has the right to use the weapon, experts call the decision to use the weapon in such quantities against targets it wasn’t designed for — such as tanks — peculiar at best.

The U.S. raids were part of “Tidal Wave II” — an operation aimed at crippling infrastructure that the Islamic State relied on to sell millions of dollars’ worth of oil. The Pentagon said the Nov. 16 attacks happened in the early morning near Al-Bukamal, a city in the governorate of Deir Ezzor near the border with Iraq, and destroyed 116 tanker trucks. Though the coalition said that the strikes occurred entirely in Syrian territory, both sides of the frontier were completely under the control of the militant group at the time. Any firing of DU in Iraqi territory would have far greater political repercussions, given the anger over its previous use there. The Nov. 16 video below shows tankers hit first by larger ordnances, before others are engulfed in sparks and ripped apart by fire from 30 mm cannons.

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Post by A k 9 on Feb 22nd, 2017, 11:12pm

America's 'Fuku' - Hanford Wa.

Beryllium
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Safety Failures Lead To 'Death Sentence' At Hanford



http://www.king5.com/news/local/hanford/safety-failures-lead-to-death-sentence-at-hanford/409183472

Possibly 300


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Post by Swamprat on Mar 10th, 2017, 2:43pm

Toxic wild boars reportedly stalk Fukushima residents

Published March 09, 2017

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A wild boar is seen at a residential area in an evacuation zone. (Reuters)

Hundreds of boars carrying highly radioactive material are reportedly stalking residents hoping the Japanese town of Fukushima six years after the meltdown of the nuclear plant.

The New York Times reported that city officials are working to clear out the contaminated boar population in the area. Japan is set to allow residents to return to their homes in some areas near the plant. These city officials worry that these boars will attack returning residents. Some of these animals are reportedly living in abandoned homes.

“We need a strong hunting plan,” Hidekiyo Tachiya, the mayor of a nearby town called Soma. “I wish for the day to come when we can eat wild game again.”

Hunters have been reportedly hired and have so far killed about 800.

The report points out that boar meat is a delicacy in northern Japan, but the animals in the area are considered too toxic to eat.

The country is working to stabilize the region in general. Most residents in Fukushima say they will not return to their homes due to fear of radiation. What’s more, it will take 40 years to dismantle to plant.

The Fukushima disaster at one point forced more than 150,000 people to abandon their homes. The number has decreased significantly as more areas have been decontaminated and the government pushes to showcase the reconstruction. Subsidies for evacuees outside of Fukushima will be cut later this month.

International studies on Fukushima have predicted that cancer rates will not rise as a result of the nuclear accident, though some researchers say the rate of thyroid cancer in the prefecture is higher than what is generally found and could be related to radiation.

The report said video footage shows these Japanese towns overtaken by wild animals. There is a large population of rat colonies, unkempt dogs and boars.

The Associated Press contributed to this report

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/03/09/toxic-wild-boars-reportedly-stalk-fukushima-residents.html


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Mar 10th, 2017, 4:06pm

I saw that..Unbelievable they have 3 x dosage and they are still letting people back in. Anything to make it appear things are getting better.
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Post by Sys_Config on Mar 10th, 2017, 4:12pm

I totally Missed They found a rod back in January

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/underwater-robot-finds-lost-uranium-9727267

How many Rods were there?
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Post by Swamprat on Mar 10th, 2017, 9:36pm

Japanese nuclear plant just recorded an astronomical radiation level. Should we be worried?

By Anna Fifield and Yuki Oda
February 8, 2017

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A worker takes notes in front of storage tanks for radioactive water at Tokyo Electric Power Co's (TEPCO) tsunami-crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan. (Reuters/Toru Hanai)

TOKYO — The utility company that operated the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in Japan — the one that went into triple meltdown after the enormous 2011 earthquake and tsunami — has released some jaw-dropping figures.

The radiation level in the containment vessel of reactor 2 has reached as high as 530 sieverts per hour, Tokyo Electric Power Co. — or Tepco, as it’s known — said last week. This far exceeds the previous high of 73 sieverts per hour recorded at the reactor following the March 2011 disaster.

That was the world’s worst nuclear disaster since the one at Chernobyl, in Ukraine, in 1986. Almost 16,000 people were killed along Japan’s northeastern coast in the tsunami, and 160,000 more lost their homes and livelihoods. The cleanup is taking much longer than expected.

At this level of radioactivity, a person could die from the briefest of exposures.

Tepco recorded the radiation near the reactor core, suggesting that some melted fuel had escaped, using a long, remote-controlled camera and radiation measurement device. It was the first time this kind of device has been able to get into this part of the reactor. There it found a three-foot-wide hole in a metal grate in the reactor’s primary containment vessel.

So, how dangerous is this?

At this level of radiation, a robot would be able to operate for less than two hours before it was destroyed, Tepco said.

And Japan’s National Institute of Radiological Sciences said medical professionals had never even thought about encountering this level of radiation in their work.

According to the Kyodo news agency, the institute estimates that exposure to one sievert of radiation could lead to infertility, loss of hair and cataracts, while four sieverts would kill half the people exposed to it.

This measuring device hasn’t even gone into reactors 1 and 3 yet — that’s still in the works.

So should the people who live in Japan, who live on the Pacific basin be freaking out? Not yet, some analysts say.

Although the radiation level is “astoundingly high,” says Azby Brown of Safecast, a citizen science organization that monitors radiation levels, it doesn’t necessarily signify any alarming change in radiation levels at Fukushima. It’s simply the first time they have been measured that far inside the reactor.

Here’s what Brown wrote on Safecast’s website:

"It must be stressed that radiation in this area has not been measured before, and it was expected to be extremely high. While 530 Sv/hr is the highest measured so far at Fukushima Daiichi, it does not mean that levels there are rising, but that a previously unmeasurable high-radiation area has finally been measured. Similar remote investigations are being planned for Daiichi Units 1 and 3. We should not be surprised if even higher radiation levels are found there, but only actual measurements will tell."

Hiroshi Miyano, a nuclear expert and visiting professor at Hosei University, also warned against overreacting. He said the radiation reading might not be particularly reliable since it was only an estimation based on the image analysis. (Tepco said there was a margin of error of 30 percent.)

“It’s not something new to worry about,” he said, although he added that it underscored how difficult the next steps would be.

But some think there is cause for concern.
Fumiya Tanabe, a nuclear safety expert and former chief research scientist at the Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute, said while experts expected the radiation reading inside the Daiichi reactors to be high, it was still “shocking” to learn how high it was six years on.

“It will be very difficult to operate robots in there for a long time to come, and to remove the melted fuel. So the finding might greatly affect the decommissioning time schedule,” he said.

Tepco had been hoping to start taking the fuel out in 2021.

Could the radiation level be even higher?

Possibly. The 530 sievert reading was recorded some distance from the melted fuel, so in reality it could be 10 times higher than recorded, said Hideyuki Ban, co-director of Citizens' Nuclear Information Center.

He agreed with Tanabe, saying that the findings underscore how difficult the decommissioning process will be.

“It definitely shows the path towards decommissioning will be very difficult, and the time frame to start taking out the fuel in 2021 will most likely be delayed as more investigations will be necessary,” Ban said.

Still, he cautioned against overreacting, saying, like Brown, that Tepco had simply not been able to measure this close to the fuel before.

So what does this news portend?

Tanabe said that the level of the reading should give pause to proponents of nuclear power in Japan, including Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who has been pushing to restart reactors shut down after the 2011 disaster.

“It’s unbelievable that anyone would want to restart nuclear plants when Japan hasn't learned how and why the Fukushima Daiichi accident happened, or learned lessons from it,” he said.

Indeed, Ai Kashiwagi, an energy campaigner at Greenpeace Japan, said the findings showed how little the government and Tepco knew about what was happening inside the reaction.

“The prime minister said everything was under control and has been pushing to restart nuclear plants, but no one knew the actual state of the plant and more serious facts could come out in the future,” she said. “It’s important to keep an eye on radiation-monitoring data and how Tepco's investigations go.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/08/japanese-nuclear-plant-just-recorded-an-astronomical-radiation-level-should-we-be-worried/?utm_term=.f6407e44604a


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Post by ZETAR on Mar 11th, 2017, 3:07pm

March 11, 2011

Nobody should burst out with laughter on this solemn sixth anniversary of the Fukushima reactor meltdowns, not while this garden of a planet is being reduced to a lifeless desert. So please forgive me for convulsing with vitriolic euphoria at the sight of those evil clowns of climate science who’ve slipped on a banana peel. With the gaping-mouth shock of Jim Carey, the Fukushima deniers known alternatively as climate scientists are astonished that their rigged studies are being dropped from the websites of federal agencies, including the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management and NOAA.

http://www.rense.com/general96/dniwextinct.htm

A slash in funding for fake science uplifts my spirits after scrimping for 12 field-research trips into the Fukushima nuclear-exclusion zone for independent radioactivity readings to counter the totality of falsehood from TEPCO, the Japanese government, the IAEA and the US Department of Energy, along with the rest of the nuclear lobby and its climate-change cheerleaders. Some of that deep-in field research required peddling a bicycle into the forbidden zone to evade nuclear-security guards and spending nights outdoors on a hammock under a tarp in the radioactive rain.

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In those same difficult years the climate hacks at major universities and research institutes were comfortably enthroned inside their labs and flew business class to UN climate summits, expenses and salaries paid with taxpayer funding. Meanwhile average families, worried about the health risk to their children, were bamboozled by the high priests of phony science who did absolutely nothing to protect the innocents. Those charlatans knew all along that every attempt to stem the radioactive bleed into the Pacific Ocean, with expensive but flawed technologies from TEPCO, the DOE, GE and AREVA, had failed miserably. My repeated urging to bore a network of tunnels into the Abukuma Plateau for storage of radioactive water was ignored in tone-deaf silence.

SHALOM...Z

EDIT FOR SYS CREDIT:

スカイ川

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Post by Sys_Config on Mar 11th, 2017, 3:49pm

At that level of exposure..the body literally dissolves..just imagine a cube of tissue a cell....and its walls being perforated with thousands of pellets and its contents spilling out..
While the hogs can be killed the plant life they thrived on..can't.
Its a toxic paradise. Perhaps Putin will allow some of the island for these folx to go thru..its not getting better.

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Mar 11th, 2017, 4:01pm

...It’s unbelievable that anyone would want to restart nuclear plants when Japan hasn't learned how and why the Fukushima Daiichi accident happened, or learned lessons from it,” he said...

That's ridiculous. Everyone knows why it happened.

The emergency cooling supply was rendered inactive when it flooded.

If that had not happened then the cooling would have been maintained and the problem would not have occurred.

The Fix.

Build better emergency back up; and build in more redundancy.

INT21

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 11th, 2017, 4:06pm


When manually filling water for cooling, make sure and check the condensor next time please.....Water levels matter.....

Cliff




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Mar 11th, 2017, 4:38pm

A slash in funding for fake science uplifts my spirits after scrimping for 12 field-research trips into the Fukushima nuclear-exclusion zone for independent radioactivity readings..

celebrated with a hog-roast ?

HAL
INT21


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Mar 11th, 2017, 6:33pm

Hal..would you send your Grans to study in Japan for a year? What would you advise him/her to do while there?
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Post by ZETAR on Mar 17th, 2017, 09:45am

Japan court rules government liable for Fukushima disaster

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/faa3169e-5197-30cd-9100-c0d55e7659eb/ss_fukushima%3A-japan-court-finds.html

A Japanese court on Friday ruled for the first time that the government bears responsibility for the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster and ordered it and the plant operator to pay damages, officials and news reports said.

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A massive tsunami triggered by a 9.0-magnitude earthquake smashed into the Fukushima Daiichi power plant on Japan's northeastern coast on March 11, 2011.

The water overwhelmed reactor cooling systems and sent three into meltdown, spewing radiation over a wide area in Japan's worst postwar disaster and the world's most serious nuclear accident since Chernobyl in 1986.

More than 10,000 people who fled over radiation fears have filed various group lawsuits against the government and operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO).

In Friday's ruling, the Maebashi District Court, north of Tokyo, found both the government and TEPCO liable and ordered them to pay a total 38.6 million yen ($340,000) to plaintiffs, a court official told AFP, without specifying the number of plaintiffs.

SHALOM...Z

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Post by LoneGunMan on Mar 17th, 2017, 11:30am

on Feb 22nd, 2017, 12:34am, Sys_Config wrote:
I twittered it because it was used a long time..and no one asked what what the health cost to the US and EU would be as refugees from these areas ...we know what it does to humans already and were quite content thinking the problem would stay over there and not migrate to here..but we are foolish to think so..and the impact will be enormous.
We cannot simply dismiss because the source is Iran..
it happened..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/us-depleted-uranium-as-ma_b_3812888.html



Depleted uranium was definitely used in Syria! Every 20mm round used by A-10 Warthogs or tank rounds for piercing armor is made of this substance. It's the perfect projectile to punch through up to 18 inches of armor !

Lone


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Mar 22nd, 2017, 1:39pm

The White House Revives a Controversial Plan for Nuclear Waste

Yucca Mountain is back, and Nevadans are not happy.

Sarah Zhang
Mar 21, 2017

Near the southern tip of Nevada is a ridge politicians have been fighting over for 30 years.

Yucca Mountain was designated the permanent underground storage site for nuclear waste in 1987. It had an ambitious mission—to entomb high-level radioactive waste safely for at least 10,000 years—and a tentative opening date of 1998. But the process of even approving its construction has dragged on through four presidents. In 2011, the Obama administration officially mothballed the project.

Then it was Trump’s turn. In a proposed budget last week that otherwise slashes non-defense spending, the Trump administration found $120 million to restart an approval process for Yucca Mountain. The project that former Nevada senator Harry Reid, perhaps its fiercest critic, denounced as “dead” is back.

“You’d have to say the glass is half full for Yucca Mountain,” said David Blee, the executive director of the United States Nuclear Infrastructure Council, a consortium of nuclear industry companies that support the project. While not exactly exuberant, it’s the most optimistic assessment of Yucca Mountain in years.

Considerable challenges are still head for reviving the project. Assuming Congress approves the $120 million, the federal government faces deeply entrenched opposition in Nevada. The state has filed 218 contentions against the Department of Energy’s application for the storage site, detailing both technical and legal concerns. Going through the contentions will take an estimated four to five years of hearings and cost the federal government $2 billion—all before the shovel even hits the ground.

Nevada’s governor and five of its six members of Congress have already come out swinging against the latest attempt to revive Yucca Mountain. “Republican, Democrat, independent—there is enormous opposition to Yucca Mountain,” said Robert Halstead, executive director of Nevada’s Agency for Nuclear Projects.

The state’s objections to Yucca Mountain originate with how it got chosen in the first place. When Reagan signed the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982, the country’s nuclear weapons program had left tons of radioactive waste, and spent fuel from nuclear power plants was also piling up. The law directed the Energy Department to study several sites around the country, but politicians didn’t want to pay for the expensive and lengthy technical assessments of all the potential sites. So in 1987, Congress amended the Nuclear Waste Policy Act to designate Yucca Mountain as the one permanent storage site.

Why Nevada? The three finalist sites were in Texas, Washington, and Nevada. At the time, the speaker of the House represented Texas and the majority leader Washington. The amendment became known as the Screw Nevada Bill. “Clearly, the mistake we made in 1987 was jamming it down the throat of the Nevadans,” a government official later told Nature.

Nevadans also have safety concerns. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the federal agency that approves radioactive-waste storage sites, published a long-delayed report in 2014 deeming Yucca Mountain safe. But critics worry that groundwater in Yucca Mountain could corrode the canisters that store nuclear waste, causing a radioactive leak.

Planning a 10,000-year storage site is bound to be complicated; if built, it would need to last longer than any piece of infrastructure in history. But efforts really sputtered out after Reid became Senate majority leader and Obama took office—both of whom are opposed to the project. They never had enough votes to outright kill it, despite Reid’s boasts, because Yucca Mountain was written into law. So they stalled.

“The Obama administration was a paper exercise,” said Blee. “At the end of the day it succeeded in generating a lot of paper but no concrete action.” For example, the Energy Department needs a license to build Yucca Mountain from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. In 2010, Obama’s energy department tried to withdraw its application for Yucca Mountain. The NRC voted 2-2 on whether the department could actually withdraw it, which resolved nothing. Meanwhile, Washington simply stopped funding the offices working on Yucca Mountain. Staff were reassigned, and offices emptied out.

The Obama administration also appointed a Blue Ribbon Commission on nuclear waste that recommended a “consent-based process” for finding a new location in a state that was not so vigorously opposed to it. That process never got off the ground.

Since Obama never undid any laws about nuclear waste, the path for Yucca Mountain is still there. Trump’s proposed budget takes a small step forward. If passed, it would provide funding to rehire staff at the Energy Department to get the Yucca Mountain application through.

The House would likely pass such a budget easily. In fact, it has sneaked Yucca Mountain funding into budget bills in the past. “There has been a firewall of support in the House for Yucca Mountain,” said Blee. Illinois congressman John Shimkus, a strong backer, also plans to introduce legislation solving land- and water-rights issues around Yucca Mountain.

The Senate is trickier. A sticking point is whether to fund an interim storage project while Yucca Mountain winds its way into existence—there’s support in the Senate for it but not the House. In the past, Senators Lamar Alexander and Dianne Feinstein have also introduced bipartisan legislation on nuclear waste issues. With Reid as majority and then minority leader, it never got far. Nuclear industry lobbyists suggested that any pro-Yucca Mountain bill could contain financial incentives for the state of Nevada. (Local Nye County officials, where the facility would be located, support Yucca Mountain because of the jobs it would bring in.)

Once the Energy Department and the NRC have both the budget and staff, they actually need to go through the long-delayed approval process. Here is where Nevada’s 218 contentions come in, and the state is gearing up for a fight.

In fact, it’s been gearing up for a while—since Reid announced his retirement after an eye injury in 2015. “I knew that morning when I heard the news of his decision to retire following the injury that the Yucca Mountains proponents in Washington—in Congress and in trade groups like the Nuclear Energy Institute, the United States Nuclear Infrastructure Council, and the two professional societies, the American Nuclear Society and the American Physical Society—that they would all immediately start fantasizing about, ‘Oh, now we can have Yucca Mountain again!’” said Halstead.

The 218 individual contentions run the whole gamut, from volcanic-hazard estimates to corrosion risks to legal concerns about how the government has handled the process. The state is also preparing 30 to 50 new contentions to stop the project.

Assuming that the NRC approves the project, the state will put up more roadblocks. “The first thing we’re going to do is go back court and sue them over the radiation protection standard,” said Halstead. Nevada contends that standards the government used to decide that Yucca Mountain are safe are too lax. In a statement responding to Trump’s budget, Nevada’s attorney general, Adam Laxalt, also said to expect “many years of protracted litigation in which we are confident we will ultimately prevail.”

If the Energy Department does get its license for Yucca Mountain, it would also need to develop a plan for operating the facility, including a monitoring program to guard against radioactive leaks. Energy Secretary Rick Perry has said he wouldn’t rule out Yucca Mountain. On Monday, House members Greg Walden and John Shimkus sent Perry a letter detailing how to move forward on the project.

President Trump himself has made no clear public comments about Yucca Mountain, and it’s unclear how committed the administration will be in the budget process. One of Nevada’s major concerns about the project is tourism. Nuclear waste from all over the country would converge on Yucca Mountain, which is about 100 miles from Las Vegas. Days before Trump’s inauguration, the project’s critics offered up a new line of attack: Trains hauling nuclear waste would be running near Trump International Hotel Las Vegas.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/yucca-mountain-trump/519972/?utm_source=atltw


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Post by Cliff-67 on Mar 24th, 2017, 4:00pm

LOCKHEED MARTIN'S NEW COMPACT FUSION REACTOR MIGHT CHANGE HUMANITY FOREVER

This is an invention that might possibly modify the civilization as we know it: A compact fusion reactor presented by Skunk Works, the stealth experimental technology section of Lockheed Martin. It's about the size of a jet engine and it can power airplanes, most likely spaceships, and cities. Skunk Works state that it will be operational in 10 years. Aviation Week had completeaccess to their stealthy workshops and spoke to Dr. Thomas McGuire, the leader of Skunk Work's Revolutionary Technology section. And ground-breaking it is, certainly: Instead of utilizing the similar strategy that everyone else is using— the Soviet-derived tokamak, a torus in which magnetic fields limit the fusion reaction with a enormous energy cost and thus tiny energy production abilities—Skunk Works' Compact Fusion Reactor has a fundamentally different methodology to anything people have tried before. Here are the two of those techniques for contrast:

Continue Here :
http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2015/02/lockheed-martins-new-compact-fusion.html?m=1#.WNWGloHys1J

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Post by ZETAR on Mar 26th, 2017, 5:48pm

the latest in the spate of robot failures in the process of decommissioning the plant. Last month, a Toshiba “scorpion” robot, built to tolerate up to 1,000 sieverts of radiation, was unable to withstand the high levels of nuclear toxicity in nuclear reactor No. 2. There have been a number of other instances, causing authorities to think of alternative approaches to the clean-up.


http://www.ibtimes.com/pictures-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-nightmare-2513928

To address the issue, members of Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) said the reliance on robots needs to be limited, with the job of collecting the vital data from the locations of melted nuclear fuel being passed on to newer, possibly more successful, technology.


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“We should come up with a method that will allow us to investigate in a short period of time and in a more sensible way,” a senior member of the NRA, the government agency, was quoted as saying by local publication Asahi Shimbun on Friday.

While TEPCO and the Japanese government hope to start the process of removing molten nuclear fuel from 2021, they have faced great difficulty in gauging the location, amount and condition of the fuel because of the extreme levels of radiation.

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on Mar 26th, 2017, 10:36pm

on Mar 26th, 2017, 5:48pm, ZETAR wrote:
the latest in the spate of robot failures in the process of decommissioning the plant. Last month, a Toshiba “scorpion” robot, built to tolerate up to 1,000 sieverts of radiation, was unable to withstand the high levels of nuclear toxicity in nuclear reactor No. 2. There have been a number of other instances, causing authorities to think of alternative approaches to the clean-up.


http://www.ibtimes.com/pictures-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-nightmare-2513928

To address the issue, members of Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) said the reliance on robots needs to be limited, with the job of collecting the vital data from the locations of melted nuclear fuel being passed on to newer, possibly more successful, technology.


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“We should come up with a method that will allow us to investigate in a short period of time and in a more sensible way,” a senior member of the NRA, the government agency, was quoted as saying by local publication Asahi Shimbun on Friday.

While TEPCO and the Japanese government hope to start the process of removing molten nuclear fuel from 2021, they have faced great difficulty in gauging the location, amount and condition of the fuel because of the extreme levels of radiation.

SHALOM...Z
That was a smart move by Japan Holding Government responsible..its another way of saying..Taxpayer subsidizing damages..

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Mar 26th, 2017, 10:48pm

SYS,

"That was a smart move by Japan Holding Government responsible..its another way of saying..Taxpayer subsidizing damages.."

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE, THAT 'GRAYFIB' A.K.A. 'GREYFIB' ALONG WITH HIS COHORT 'LIGHTLIE' WERE ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL grin

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SHALOM...Z

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Mar 27th, 2017, 11:35pm

Turkey Point had a minor incident a few days ago.

Nuclear regulators inspecting FPL’s Turkey Point plant after small explosion

Quote:

“This was an event that could have had serious safety consequences and we need to know more about what happened and why,” said NRC Region II Administrator Cathy Haney. “We felt a special inspection was warranted to gather more information and also determine if there are generic issues that may apply to other plants.”


http://protectingyourpocket.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/03/22/nuclear-regulators-inspecting-fpls-turkey-point-plant-after-electrical-fault/


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Apr 24th, 2017, 3:03pm

Journey deep into the Finnish caverns where nuclear waste will be buried for millenia

A hole in Finland is being prepared to contain radioactive waste for 100,000 years. But will the future co-operate?

By Helen Gordon
Monday 24 April 2017

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A message proposed in 1993 by the US Department of Energy to warn future generations of nuclear-waste sites. Source: Peter Guenzel

Olkiluoto island, in western Finland, is a flat stretch of land covered by pine trees and bordered on three sides by the Baltic Sea. The nearest town on the mainland is Rauma. With a population of around 34,000, the town is famous for lace-making and colourful, wooden houses. In the middle of Olkiluoto, past kilometres of dark pine trees and a huddle of yellow, blue and grey huts, a metal shutter is set between walls of blasted grey rock. This nondescript doorway is the entrance to something unique: the world's first - and only - permanent repository for spent fuel. It's called Onkalo, which means "cavity" in Finnish.

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Olkiluoto island, on the west coast of Finland, is 24km from the nearest town

Three of Finland's five nuclear plants are also situated on Olkiluoto. They are owned by Teollisuuden Voyma Oy (TVO) and Fortum Oyj, the two Finnish energy companies that are jointly responsible for Onkalo. Nuclear power plants produce three levels of radioactive waste: low; intermediate; and high. Low-level waste such as paper, rags, tools and clothing contains small amounts of mostly short-term radioactivity. Intermediate-level waste includes resins, chemical sludge and reactor components. High-level waste is the spent fuel from the power plants or the principal waste separated from reprocessing the fuel. This is the material destined for Onkalo.

Radioactive waste remains dangerous to humans for millennia. Onkalo exists to protect humanity from its effects. The facility's construction began in 2004 and, by the time it is completed, will consist of 60 to 70 kilometres of tunnels within an area of around 2km2. Disposal of the spent fuel will begin in the early 2020s and continue for the next 100 years. By the time the final disposal is completed, 3,250 canisters will have been deposited in the tunnels. The canisters will contain around 6,500 tonnes of uranium. The main access tunnel will be backfilled with rubble and concrete, and the entrance sealed. Of course, no one working on the project today will be alive to see this.

Onkalo must last for 100,000 years. A hundred thousand years ago, Europe was in the middle of the Ice Age. Homo sapiens had not yet arrived on the continent, and mammoths and woolly rhinos roamed the landscape. That period is far longer than any man-made structure has survived to date. The oldest Egyptian pyramids are only around 4,600 years old; Stonehenge perhaps 5,000. As a geologist at the site says: Onkalo will last forever...

Nuclear radiation is emitted when the nucleus of an unstable atom loses energy, becoming, in the process, stable and non-radioactive. This radiation can take the form of either moving sub-atomic particles, called alpha and beta particles, or electromagnetic gamma waves. Beta particles and gamma waves are powerful enough to penetrate the skin - although beta particles can be blocked by a sheet of aluminium foil. Gamma waves, however, require several centimetres of lead or concrete, or approximately a metre of water. Natural sources of radiation include cosmic rays, as well as certain rocks and soils. Human beings even have their own internal radiation: we are born with radioactive potassium-40 and carbon-14 inside our bodies. Every time we sit next to someone, we expose them to radiation. The effect of this radiation on the body is measured in sieverts. Public Health England estimates that in a typical year, a person in the UK might receive a total dose of two to three millisieverts (mSv) from natural and man-made background - radiation sources. A transatlantic flight, for example, exposes you to 0.08mSv; a dental X-ray to 0.005mSv. The annual exposure limit for employees in the nuclear industry is 20mSv.

In nuclear power plants such as the ones in Olkiluoto, engineers use nuclear fission - the process of splitting the nucleus of an atom of radioactive uranium or plutonium - to heat water, produce steam and drive turbines. The spent fuel that results from this process consists of dark brown ceramic pellets of uranium dioxide sealed into zirconium alloy tubes, or fuel rods. A single uranium fuel pellet is about the size of a fingernail, and four of these pellets contain enough energy to provide a year's electricity for a family of four living in an electrically heated house.

When first removed from the reactor, the fuel rods containing the uranium oxide pellets are immensely hot (around 800°C) and dangerously radioactive. Stand in front of one and you won't see, taste, smell or feel anything, but gamma waves will be moving through your body, hitting your cells and damaging their DNA. In most cases the cell dies. In others, it mutates. It is this damage to the DNA that causes the physical effects of radiation sickness, such as nausea, hair loss, vomiting and, in severe cases, haemorrhaging. According to the Princeton-based International Panel on Fissile Materials (IPFM), spent fuel from a reactor initially emits gamma radiation at a dose rate greater than one sievert per hour. Around 50 per cent of adults exposed to this level of radiation will die in three to four hours.

The World Nuclear Association estimates that there is around 240,000 tonnes of spent fuel across the world. Finland has around 2,000 tonnes; the UK around 6,000. These figures will increase - nuclear power is increasingly viewed as a way of cutting carbon emissions - and new power plants such as the UK's Hinkley Point C will come into service over the coming years. At current rates of production, around 1.1 million tonnes will be produced worldwide over the next 100 years.

At present, all countries with nuclear power plants keep their spent fuel in containers in interim storage facilities, which are located above ground or near the surface. At Sellafield, spent fuel is kept in storage ponds. According to industry experts, it's a situation that cannot be maintained indefinitely and arguably places too much of a burden on future generations, who have done nothing to produce the waste. According to a 2011 IPFM report, "Most countries with nuclear-power programmes assume the eventual disposal of spent fuel and high-level radioactive waste will require underground repositories."

Deep geological disposal aims to isolate the fuel for 100,000 years, so it cannot come into contact with the biosphere until the radioactivity has fallen to safe levels. Once it's below ground, the major threat to public health comes from water contamination. At Onkalo, disposal plans have been based on the KBS-3 concept developed over the past 30 years by the Swedish Nuclear Fuel and Waste Management Company (SKB), the firm responsible for nuclear-waste management in Sweden. It's a belt-and-braces approach, known as the multiple-barriers principle. The spent fuel is contained within several overlapping protective barriers, so if one fails, isolation is not compromised.

The concept of geological disposal has been advocated since the 70s. Although other ideas for dealing with the waste have been suggested - including shooting it into space, burying it in ocean sediment and dropping it into a gap between tectonic plates - burying nuclear waste underground remains the preferred long-term solution. Though Onkalo is the world's first geological disposal facility for high-level spent fuel, there are already repositories for low- and intermediate-level waste, including the Asse II waste-storage facility in Germany. So far, however, only Finland and Sweden have approved the construction of geological disposal facilities.

These repositories, however, are technically challenging and financially draining (estimates for a UK facility come in at around £4 billion). Critics of geological disposal schemes usually point to worrying examples of what might go wrong. Between 1967 and 1978, more than 120,000 drums of waste were buried in a former salt mine in Lower Saxony. As with the spent fuel destined for Onkalo, they were supposed to remain there forever, but the mine walls are collapsing due to pressure from surrounding rocks. There are also concerns that water seeping into the facility could get contaminated and move radioactive material to the surface.

Such concerns, of course, make the issue of geological disposal of nuclear waste politically sensitive. In 2010, political pressure forced the US government to abandon its expensive Yucca Mountain repository in Nevada. In 2013, Cumbria County Council voted to reject plans to build a UK facility in West Cumbria. In both instances, the state failed to convince worried locals that their plans for geological disposal were safe and desirable. "Can you ever really know how a certain material will behave in a certain location in 100,000 years time? If you put it down a deep hole and it starts to leak then you have left future generations with something they can't do anything about. No one wants a lethal pile of enriched uranium housed permanently in their back yard."

Read more, much more: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/olkiluoto-island-finland-nuclear-waste-onkalo


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Post by Cliff-67 on Apr 25th, 2017, 9:46pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlOCFcJa4I


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Post by A k 9 on Apr 29th, 2017, 11:58pm



Environment Pollution in Luxembourg on April 26 2017 02:51 PM (UTC).

Trace amounts of radioactive Iodine-131 have been detected in the ground-level atmosphere in Luxembourg since beginning of 2017, but the source has not been found. Responding to a parliamentary question, health minister Lydia Mutsch said that a Luxembourg station had sporadically detected traces of Iodine-131 since the start of 2017. She said: "The quantities measured were extremely low, close to the threshold for detection." Iodine-131 is a radioisotope of iodine, which is present in nuclear fission products and in high doses can cause mutation and death in cells that it penetrates. Increased radiation at trace levels were detected across Europe in January 2017. The levels were thought to have been linked to a radioactive leak at a nuclear reactor in Norway in October 2016. The leak was caused by a technical failure during treatment of the fuel in the reactor hall. It was contained and, according to the Norwegian authorities, no radioactive contamination was detected outside the facility, the minister said. She added that the amount of reactive iodine leaked was equivalent to 10% of the permitted limit. Meanwhile, the source of the traces of radioactive Iodine-131 remains unknown.

Source : Emergency Disaster Information Service ( RSOE EDIS )

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20170426-57996-LUX

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Post by Sys_Config on May 9th, 2017, 12:44pm

Hanford Site Tunnel collapses

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/emergency-reported-hanford-nuclear-site-washington/#
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Post by Cliff-67 on May 9th, 2017, 1:48pm

on May 9th, 2017, 12:44pm, Sys_Config wrote:
Hanford Site Tunnel collapses

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/emergency-reported-hanford-nuclear-site-washington/#


http://www.king5.com/news/local/hanford/hanford-tunnel-plutonium-uranium-extraction-plant-collapse/438116235


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Post by Sys_Config on May 9th, 2017, 2:46pm



from 4x4 ft 20 X 20 ...its bigger than they thought undecided
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Post by Cliff-67 on May 9th, 2017, 2:57pm


Situation Update No. 2 on May 09 2017 06:55 PM (UTC)

The Oregon Department of Energy has activated its emergency operation center in response to an emergency at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington. ODOE officials are coordinating with the Oregon Department of Agriculture, Oregon Health Authority and nuclear safety experts at Oregon State University, ODOE spokeswoman Rachel Wray said Tuesday morning. "Hanford is 35 miles away from Oregon," Wray said. "We are concerned about Oregonians' health and that concerns the food we eat." The U.S. Department of Energy declared an emergency at the site at 8:26 a.m. Tuesday after a routine check found that a portion of a storage tunnel that contains radioactive waste had collapsed. The tunnels are hundreds of feet long and are covered by about eight feet of soil. The Hanford Fire Department is on scene and is reporting that the tunnel has caved in in an area approximately 20 feet by 20 feet over one of the tunnels next to the Plutonium Uranium Extraction Facility, or PUREX. There is no indication of a release of contamination at this point, the U.S. Department of Energy said in a news release. There were no workers in the tunnel when it collapsed. Workers in that area of the site have been evacuated, and those in potentially affected areas have been told to stay indoors. Hanford is located on the Columbia River near Richland, Wash. It has more than 9,000 employees. About 29,000 Oregonians live in the nearby communities of Boardman, Irrigon, Hermiston and Umatilla.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=LS-20170509-58151-USA
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Post by Swamprat on May 10th, 2017, 08:32am

Hanford Disaster: What Happens to Someone Who's Exposed to Plutonium?

By Tia Ghose, Senior Writer
May 10, 2017

Workers at a nuclear-waste site in Washington state were recently told to hunker down in place after a tunnel in the nuclear finishing plant collapsed, news sources reported yesterday (May 9).

Workers at the Hanford nuclear site were told to either evacuate or shelter in place, and to avoid eating or drinking anything after the tunnel collapsed, according to the Yakima Herald. The U.S. Department of Energy activated an Emergency Operations Center for dealing with the disaster.

The tunnel was part of the plutonium and uranium extraction facility (PUREX) said to be holding a lot of radioactive waste, including railway cars used to carry spent nuclear fuel rods, news agency AFP reported. At least some of the radioactive waste at the Hanford facility contains radioactive plutonium and uranium, according to the DOE, although at least some of it is also radioactive "sludge" composed of a mixture of radioactive substances. Right now, authorities have not revealed whether radioactive substances have been released or whether people have been exposed any of these contaminants.

But if people were indeed exposed to the radioactive waste containing plutonium and uranium, what health risks would they face? And how can people minimize their risk of exposure?

Radioactive plutonium and uranium
All radioactive material, as it decays, can cause harm. As unstable radioactive isotopes, or versions of an element with different molecular weights, decay into slightly more stable versions, they release energy. This extra energy can either directly kill cells or damage a cell's DNA, fueling mutations that may eventually lead to cancer.

Plutonium, one of the radioactive substances that may be present at the Hanford site, has a half-life of 24,000 years, meaning that's how long it takes for half of the material to decay into more stable substances. As such, it sticks around in the environment, and in the body, for a long time.

Plutonium exposure can be very deadly for living creatures. A 2011 study in the journal Nature Chemical Biology found that rat adrenal-gland cells ferried plutonium into the cells; the plutonium entered the body's cells largely by taking the natural place of iron on receptors. That study found that plutonium also can linger preferentially in the liver and blood cells, leaching alpha radiation (two protons and neutrons bound together). When inhaled, plutonium can also cause lung cancer.

However, because the human body still slightly prefers iron to plutonium for its biological processes, that preference could potentially provide avenues for treating plutonium exposure, by flooding such receptors and preventing plutonium from being taken in by the cells, the study authors noted.

In addition, a 2005 study in the journal Current Medicinal Chemistry found that there are some short-term treatments for plutonium exposure. Studies in the 1960s and 1970s identified agents, such as Diethylenetriaminepentaacetic, which can help the body remove plutonium faster. Other drugs, such as ones used to treat iron-processing disorders such as beta-thalassemia, or bone-strengthening drugs that treat osteoporosis, may also be useful for plutonium exposure, the study found.

Uranium, another radioactive element that may be present at dangerous concentrations in the PUREX tunnel, also can have harmful effects on human health. Uranium isotopes have half-lives ranging from 4.5 billion years to 25,000 years.

The biggest health risk people face after being exposed to uranium is kidney damage, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. People exposed to uranium may also experience lung problems, such as scar tissue (fibrosis) or emphysema (large air sacs in the lungs). At high doses, uranium can directly cause kidneys and lungs to fail, according to the CDC. However, studies have found that people who drink well water containing low doses of uranium do not show any marked changes in kidney function.

Like plutonium, uranium emits alpha radiation. Uranium may also decay into radon, which has been tied to an increased cancer risk in several studies, particularly in miners who are exposed to higher levels of the toxin.

It's not clear whether there are other radioactive substances in the Hanford site area, but radioactive forms of iodine and cesium can also cause problems such as thyroid cancer, Live Science previously reported.

Radiation sickness
Overall, radiation from any source increases the risk of cancer, and the cancer risk increases with higher exposures. Extremely high doses of radioactive waste can induce a condition known as radiation sickness, in which the gastrointestinal tract literally bleeds and sloughs off its lining. During the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, 28 emergency workers died directly from radiation poisoning in the three months after the disaster, and rates of cancer in nearby populations increased four to 10 years after the disaster, Live Science reported.

However, exposures in more recent nuclear disasters, such as the nuclear meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, have not typically been high enough to show highly elevated rates of cancer. For instance, a Japanese worker who was exposed to 10 rem (100 millisievert, or mSv), a measurement of radiation, may face a lifetime cancer risk that is elevated by half a percent, Kathryn Higley, director of the Oregon State University Department of Nuclear Engineering and Radiation Health Physics, previously told Live Science. That radiation dose amounts to the levels received with about five CT scans. Most people in the United States receive 0.3 rem (3 mSv) of radiation each year from natural sources, such as the sun, Live Science previously reported.

In addition, studies have found lower rates of cancer in nuclear plant workers than in the general population, likely because these workers tend to be healthier than the people in the nearby population, according to a 2004 study in the French journal Revue Epidemiological Sante Publique. Therefore, untangling a slightly elevated risk of cancer due to radiation exposure from a slightly lower risk due to healthier habits could be tricky, the study noted.

http://www.livescience.com/59042-how-does-plutonium-damage-the-body.html


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Post by Swamprat on May 10th, 2017, 9:14pm

Michio Kaku talks about Hanford with CBS News

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/radioactive-fears-at-nuclear-waste-site-where-tunnel-collapsed/


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Post by Sys_Config on May 10th, 2017, 11:17pm

well now we have a good way to cover up the contamination creeping in from Fukushima..for at least the next 40 years.. cool
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Post by ZETAR on May 11th, 2017, 12:11am

SYS,

"well now we have a good way to cover up the contamination creeping in from Fukushima..for at least the next 40 years.."

YEP...AND AS PURR HAS OPINED "Hell of a gamble with the world (AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE U.S.) population, yet an immensely profitable one."

BET THIS STOCK WILL SEE AN UPTICK
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on May 18th, 2017, 1:17pm

Never mind Japan...... angry



Why US nuclear sites are a ticking time bomb


The Department of Energy needs to prioritize the clean-up of nuclear waste.

17 May 2017

The United States is still fighting the cold war. Thousands of its citizens had to take shelter last week because of the threat of radiation from nuclear weapons. But the opponent is no longer the Soviet Union. The enemy now is the legacy of an arms race and decades of government indifference to the mess that has been left behind.

On 9 May, the roof collapsed in a tunnel that houses highly radioactive waste at the US Department of Energy’s sprawling Hanford site in Washington state. The tunnel is one of a pair that together shield 36 radioactive railway carriages, once used to carry nuclear fuel for reprocessing to plutonium. Radiation monitors showed no signs of airborne contamination after the collapse, so workers at the site were released and the hole was filled with fresh soil.

The incident is yet another alarming reminder of the risks posed by pollution at nuclear-weapons facilities in the United States and around the world. It could have been much worse. And without serious and sustained efforts to clean up these ageing facilities, one day it will be.

In August 2015, an independent panel of academics placed the Hanford tunnels on a list of high-priority dangers at the site, which spreads for more than 1,500 square kilometres along the Columbia River. The interim report, by the Consortium for Risk Evaluation with Stakeholder Participation (CRESP), said that the oldest tunnel — built in 1956 and covered with soil nearly 2.5 metres deep — could collapse and release radiation during an earthquake. The energy department is still investigating last week’s breach, but the 6-metre section that gave way may have succumbed to little more than old age.

The energy department has spent more than US$164 billion cleaning up its nuclear-waste sites since 1989. But it will be many decades before the work is complete. Each year, the agency spends more money just to maintain old infrastructure and ensure workers are safe.

Science might yet offer more efficient and economic solutions. Whereas Congress and previous administrations have been willing to spend money to maintain — or upgrade — the nuclear weapons themselves, there is less interest in paying to clean up after them. US President Donald Trump is no different. His administration’s initial 2018 budget outline would boost funding for the environmental clean-up of nuclear waste by around $300 million, to $6.5 billion. But the National Nuclear Security Administration, which runs the energy department’s weapons programme, would fare better with an increase of $1.4 billion, or 11%.

Money is not the only problem. For more than a decade, organizations such as the US National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine have been raising questions about the regulatory challenges that impede clean-up. For instance, the energy department’s nuclear waste is still classified by where it comes from, rather than by its actual radiological risk. This often increases clean-up costs, and so heightens danger in a budget-constrained world. Nor is the department able to focus its resources on the highest priorities, given myriad legal agreements with state and federal regulators at individual sites — Hanford included.

In a second report in August 2015, CRESP said that the extent to which the clean-up programme is based on actual risk remains “unclear”. The report recommended that Congress establish an inter¬agency task force, with the participation of independent experts, to advise the department on clean-up activities and to help navigate legal and regulatory issues. Controversially, CRESP also recommended the creation of an alternative dispute-resolution process to replace the court-approved agreements that govern individual sites.

Objections to that report were raised by the governor and attorney general of Washington state, which has one such agreement at Hanford. This is testimony to the complexity of the problem. Still, the energy department would benefit from a broader reassessment of its clean-up mission — and a regular injection of unbiased risk analysis. The carriages in the Hanford tunnels are not going anywhere soon. But it should be science that dictates their timetable.

http://www.nature.com/news/why-us-nuclear-sites-are-a-ticking-time-bomb-1.21998?WT.ec_id=NEWSDAILY-20170518


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Post by ZETAR on May 19th, 2017, 12:16am

Fukushima news;5-18-2017 More Emergency closed Salmon fishing epic Collapse

https://youtu.be/2UnAk2HcUwk

Japan Powers Another Nuclear Reactor After Fukushima

https://www.yahoo.com/news/japan-powers-another-nuclear-reactor-191732839.html

More than six years after the devastating meltdown of Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi power plant, the country powered up another nuclear reactor. Operators at Kansai Electric Power (KEPCO) restarted the No. 4 reactor at the Takahama nuclear plant Wednesday, following a court ruling in March approving the decision.

The Takahama plant, located in Fukui Prefecture, sits about 215 miles west of Tokyo. An appeals court in Osaka ruled in March that the company could restart two of the four reactors at the plant.

“We will carefully continue our work with discipline and regard safety as the priority,” Shigeki Iwane, KEPCO’s president, said in a statement

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Sys_Config on May 19th, 2017, 05:41am

What will happen to the Nuclear plants if the long overdue northwest quake hits?..The expected Tsunami will be huge..
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Post by ZETAR on May 20th, 2017, 10:53pm

cool

REACH BEYOND TIME ~ https://www.reverbnation.com/philipscales/song/21033775-reach-beyond-time

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Cliff-67 on May 22nd, 2017, 1:27pm


Situation Update

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=LS-20170509-58151-USA


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Post by Swamprat on May 26th, 2017, 10:26am

Your mobile phone can reveal whether you have been exposed to radiation

Date: May 24, 2017
Source: Lund University

In accidents or terror attacks which are suspected to involve radioactive substances, it can be difficult to determine whether people nearby have been exposed to radiation. But by analysing mobile phones and other objects which come in close contact with the body, it is possible to retrieve important information on radiation exposure. This has been shown by a new thesis from Lund University in Sweden.

The nuclear power plant disasters in Chernobyl and Fukushima are two examples of accidents which have exposed the population to ionising radiation. Many people fear that, for example, dirty bombs will be used in future terror attacks.

"Being able to quickly determine whether someone has been exposed to radiation is a major advantage. In case of a nuclear power plant disaster, many people are worried, even when only a small number of people have been exposed to harmful levels of radiation," explains Therése Geber-Bergstrand, medical physicist and doctoral student at Lund University.

Providing information several years after an accident
Together with her colleagues, Therése Geber-Bergstrand examined a number of objects or materials that come in close contact with the body and which have the potential of providing information on whether the carrier has been exposed to radiation. Among the objects examined were:
• mobile phones
• teeth and dental fillings
• drying agents (found in, for example, small pouches in new brief cases and purses)

The study showed that several of the materials contained very promising properties, not least mobile phones. They contain resistors made from aluminium oxide, which can provide information about radiation as late as six years after the time of exposure. During analysis, the phone is dismantled and the resistor is subsequently examined using a light-sensitive measuring technique, known as optically stimulated luminescence (OSL).

"The results from the mobile phones were very promising. Even though further studies are required, the phones can be used right away. We have an agreement with the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority about analysing a number of mobile phones in our emergency preparedness lab when needed," says Therése Geber-Bergstrand.

Analyses of mobile phones and of other tested objects can also be performed on a large scale and relatively quickly. It may be possible to receive a test result within one or two hours, compared to the couple of days it can take to receive tests results from a medical exam. According to Therése Geber-Bergstrand, an initial check of the mobile phone can therefore be a valuable tool for determining who needs to undergo more time-consuming and resource-intensive tests.

Salt capsules could complement dosemeters

In her thesis, she also continued to develop the research group's previous findings with regard to the use of table salt as a cheap and effective indicator of ionising radiation. Her results confirm the benefits of the salt. In the event of a major accident involving radioactive substances, it could therefore be an option to supply some of the emergency staff with special salt capsules as an effective and cheap alternative to dosemeters.
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Materials provided by Lund University.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170524140324.htm


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Post by ZETAR on Jun 16th, 2017, 1:47pm

cool

Aliens Saved Earth from Nuclear Meltdown?

https://youtu.be/YbK9lh4jwBk

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Post by ZETAR on Jun 16th, 2017, 1:59pm

"Everybody's Freaked" - Washington Nuclear Facility Admits Second Radiation Leak, Workers Contaminated

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-20/everybodys-freaked-washington-nuclear-facility-admits-second-radiation-leak-workers-

Just under two weeks since the emergency at the Hanford nuclear facility in Washington state (following a tunnel collapse), NBC's local affiliate King5 reports Hanford’s owner, The U.S. Department of Energy, is scrambling to deal with a second emergency - signs have emerged that a massive underground double shell nuclear waste holding tank may be leaking.

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Governor Jay Inslee called on the federal government to investigate after the contamination was discovered."This comes on the heels of last week's tunnel collapse. It is another urgent reminder that Congress needs to act, and they need to act quickly."

“The May 9th incident should serve as an urgent reminder of the challenges in cleaning up the Hanford site that require a rededication of attention and resources in order to ensure progress continues moving forward,” the governors said in their letter to the Republican president.

“The longer it takes to clean up the facilities and structures that store mixed chemical and radioactive waste, the farther and farther they get past their useful lives - causing degradation and more risk of failing.”


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Jun 16th, 2017, 3:34pm

RADIO ACTIVE
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=radio+active
H.E. #040
cry



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO_WxYC34eM

welcome to IT.
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 16th, 2017, 11:34pm

MOKSHA,

PERPETUALLY CURIOUS...
Fukushima in Jewish Gematria Equals:554

Jewish Gematria: Ezekiel=554


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Post by MOKSHA on Jun 18th, 2017, 08:39am

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Post by Cliff-67 on Jun 19th, 2017, 11:12pm


No worries folks, its ONLY cracks....

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_update&edis_id=NC-20160610-53672-BEL

Then, not far away from there,

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20170619-58690-FRA



Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 23rd, 2017, 3:06pm

AND SO IT BEGINS... wink

USS Reagan crew can sue Japanese company over Fukushima nuclear disaster – court

https://www.rt.com/usa/393665-fukushima-reagan-lawsuit-us/

A federal appeals court has ruled that members of the US Navy can now, in a US court, pursue their lawsuit which alleges that they were exposed to radiation while providing aid after the nuclear crisis in Fukushima, Japan.
On Thursday, the US Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled in favor of the sailors who were exposed to dangerous levels of radiation while providing humanitarian aid after an earthquake destroyed the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Japan.

The ruling allows sailors, who were aboard the ship at the time, to pursue their lawsuit against the state-owned Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) for misrepresented radiation levels in the surrounding air and water. The lawsuit alleges that TEPCO misled them about the extent of the radiation leak.


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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by MOKSHA on Jun 23rd, 2017, 4:17pm

SO IT DOES,
What, might "NOT" be part of the suit, is this, and how so many got sick.


http://www.naval-technology.com/contractors/logistics/salt-separation-ltd/


As a reminder, there is plenty of water.

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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 24th, 2017, 08:09am

I wonder which bunch of ambulance chasing lawyers thought of that.

Who knows, maybe the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will sue the US government for the radiation effects as well.

The whole thing is getting ridiculous.

If one is worried about the radiation, stay away and leave the job to those aren't.

HAL
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 24th, 2017, 11:14am

HAL,

"I wonder which bunch of ambulance chasing lawyers thought of that.

Who knows, maybe the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki will sue the US government for the radiation effects as well.

The whole thing is getting ridiculous.

If one is worried about the radiation, stay away and leave the job to those aren't."


I'M GUESSIN[SP]...YOU'RE IN STIR MODE cool

Kyodo, May 19, 2016: Former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi has thrown his support behind a group of former U.S. sailors suing the operator of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant… Speaking at a news conference Tuesday in Carlsbad, California, with some of the plaintiffs, Koizumi said, “Those who gave their all to assist Japan are now suffering from serious illness… I learned that the number of sick people is still increasing, and their symptoms are worsening,” he told the news conference… According to lawyers for the group, seven of its members have died so far, including some from leukemia [Three deaths had been reported as of last July].

http://enenews.com/spike-number-sailors-dying-after-fukushima-radiation-exposure-400-veterans-suffering-serious-illnesses-former-japan-prime-minister-breaks-down-crying-be-ignored-longer-number-sick-people-increas

Asahi Shimbun, May 19, 2016: Former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi broke down in tears as he made an emotional plea of support for U.S. Navy sailors beset by health problems… More than 400 veterans who were part of a mission called Operation Tomodachi… filed a mass lawsuit in California against [TEPCO]. They are seeking compensation and an explanation for their health problems… Koizumi said: “U.S. military personnel who did their utmost in providing relief are now suffering from serious illnesses. We cannot ignore the situation.”

Apparently overcome with emotion, Koizumi started crying…

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jun 24th, 2017, 11:31am

Sorry, Hal; the key here is, "Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) misrepresented radiation levels in the surrounding air and water. TEPCO misled them about the extent of the radiation leak."

They have every right to sue and collect.....

Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 24th, 2017, 12:15pm

Swamp, ZETAR,

Sorry if I came across as a bit cold hearted. that wasn't the intent.

I have every admiration for the people who place themselves in danger while trying to assist others. The People who tried their best in Chernobyl epitomises this. They were dead men walking; and they knew it.

I do believe that people effected by such things as radiation leaks that are caused by avoidable errors should be compensated.
But I object to this being in the hands of lawyers who are, when you get to the bottom line, out to make money for themselves.

We are moving slowly but surely into a risk averse society where if you trip on a cracked pavement it is deemed necessary to sue the local council. Maybe you should have been watching where you were going.

Regulation was brought out in many fields to decrease the chances of injury. But some see this as a sign of government repression and wish to change it. But when this happens and there is an accident because some regulation has been dropped, who will benefit ? Lawyers, who else.

My wife smokes, I don't.

Should I sue her if I get cancer brought on by breathing in the smoke from her tobacco ? Or divorce her as I see this behavior as a real risk to my health.

A lawyer would no doubt say that it would be my fault for remaining in a situation that I foresaw as hazardous.

I would be interested in the panels views on that particular conundrum.

HAL
INT21




Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jun 24th, 2017, 1:42pm

I don't disagree with the lawyer thing. Ambulance-chaser ads have flooded the airwaves. They want you to sue for every little bit of hardship that comes along!

Don't sue your wife; sue the tobacco company for selling a dangerous product!
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by ZETAR on Jun 24th, 2017, 2:49pm

HAL-N-SWAMP,

"I would be interested in the panels views on that particular conundrum."

FOR THE CONUNDRUM CURIOUS...cool

A tort is a civil wrong in the sense that it is committed against an individual (which
includes legal entities such as companies) rather than the state. The gist of tort law
is that a person has certain interests which are protected by law.

http://elearn.uni-sofia.bg/pluginfile.php/100711/mod_resource/content/1/understanding_torts.pdf

The paradigm tort consists of an act or omission by the defendant which causes damage
to the claimant. The damage must be caused by the fault of the defendant and
must be a kind of harm recognised as attracting legal liability.
This model can be represented:
act (or omission) + causation + fault + protected interest + damage = liability.


"People are getting smarter nowadays; they are letting lawyers, instead of their conscience, be their guide." ~ Will Rogers


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EVER WONDER WHY PERRY'S LAST NAME WAS...'MASON'

SHALOM...Z
Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jun 24th, 2017, 3:13pm

... protected by law...


Ah yes, the law.

'My name is Dredd, Judge Dredd; and I am THE LAW'.

HAL
INT21
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Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jun 26th, 2017, 10:06am

Workers risk lives as others profit

Private operators of nuke weapons labs make millions even when safety suffers

by Peter Cary, Patrick Malone and R. Jeffrey Smith, Center for Public Integrity
June 26, 2017

A wrong turn of a valve at one of the country’s nuclear weapons laboratories unleashed an explosion that easily could have killed two workers.

The near catastrophe in August 2011 at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque lifted the roof of the building, separated a wall and bent an exterior door 30 feet away. One worker was knocked to the floor; another narrowly missed getting hit with flying debris as a fire erupted.

As the Department of Energy investigated over the next three years, the same lab — one of 10 nuclear weapons-related sites that contain radioactive materials in addition to the usual hazards found in industrial settings — had two more serious accidents, both blamed on insufficient safety protocols.

But when the time came for regulators to take action against the company in charge of the lab, officials decided against a financial penalty. They waived a $412,500 fine they had initially proposed, saying Sandia Corp., a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, had made “significant and positive steps … to improve Sandia’s safety culture.”

This wasn’t a rare outcome. Energy Department documents obtained by the Center for Public Integrity make clear that the nation’s eight nuclear weapons labs and plants and two sites that support them remain dangerous places to work, but their corporate managers often face relatively slight penalties after accidents.

Workers have inhaled radioactive particles that pose lifetime cancer threats. Others received electrical shocks or were burned by acid or in fires. They have been splashed with toxic chemicals and cut by debris from exploding metal drums.

But the private companies the government pays to run the facilities rarely suffer serious financial penalties, even when regulators conclude the companies committed mistakes or paid inadequate attention to safety. Low fines leave taxpayers to finance most of the cleanup and repair of contaminated sites after accidents that officials said never should have happened.

During a yearlong investigation built on a review of thousands of pages of records and interviews with dozens of current and former government officials and contractor employees, the Center for Public Integrity found:

Private firms running laboratories and plants each are paid $40,000 to $160,000 a day in profits alone, a total of more than $2 billion in the past 10 years. But during that period, the Energy Department’s enforcement arm waived or significantly reduced 19 of 21 major fines officials had said were justified because of safety lapses and other workplace misconduct. All told, they forgave $3.3 million of $7.3 million they said could have been imposed.

One reason fines are reduced is federal rules governing Energy Department contractors do not allow the contractors to be fined if their profits were docked for the same infraction. The department argues that this arrangement is still effective. But a review of payments to 10 contractors over a decade shows they earned on average 86% of their maximum potential profits, even though that decade was marked with persistent safety lapses.

When the Energy Department penalized a contractor that shut down the nation’s underground nuclear waste dump in 2014 after an accident that exposed 21 people to radioactive carcinogens, it amounted to a tiny share of the government’s repair costs. Los Alamos National Laboratory, operated by a consortium of four contractors called Los Alamos National Security LLC, was fined $57 million. The government’s cleanup bill? About $1.5 billion.

The frequency of serious accidents and incidents at these facilities has not diminished — as it has at most other industrial workplaces in America — and may have risen significantly. The number of violation notices, letters, and consent orders sent to contractors after accidents and mishaps has more than doubled since 2013.

Many contractors penalized for malfeasance later committed new infractions, federal records show. Some workplace safety experts suggest contractors are building fines and penalties into their business plans.

The private firms the government pays to run its nuclear weapons program employ about 40,000 people from coast to coast. Scientists and other workers often come face to face with toxic chemicals, radioactive materials, nuclear wastes and other dangers as they maintain the planet’s largest atomic arsenal.

They risk immediate peril from explosions and fires, and lurking threats from the cancer causing agents they handle that could slowly erode their health over many years.

“What’s the incentive to do the job right when no matter what you get the money?” asks Ralph Stanton, a worker who inhaled radioactive plutonium in an accident at Idaho National Laboratory in Idaho Falls.

Rooting out details of safety incidents from Energy Department reports — many of which are based on contractors’ self-reporting — is difficult.

Annual profits for the contractors that run nuclear weapons-related sites range from $15 million to $60 million for each company.

But the nuclear weapons work is commonly viewed as “extremely low-risk” financially, as a top National Nuclear Security Administration official said in an email to Sandia executives in October 2009.

Contractors commit “virtually no financial investment” because they have relatively few expenditures the federal government won’t reimburse, the official noted. To get in trouble takes “a complete screw-up/bad faith.”

The government can, but rarely does, terminate contracts for poor performance. Most firms have been able to count on a decade or more of steady income once they win a contract.

The contract experience of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, 30 miles east of San Francisco, illustrates how the government’s leverage is sometimes ignored.

Livermore, where warheads are designed and related work is performed, experienced a series of problems in 2012. Its contractor consortium, called Lawrence Livermore National Security LLC, includes public companies Babcock and Wilcox and URS Corp., now a subsidiary of AECOM engineering; private companies Bechtel National and Battelle; and the University of California.

An effort to create fusion by bombarding hydrogen with highpowered lasers failed to deliver. The lab mismanaged money on another project and experienced several electrical safety incidents, according to government reports.

So it received only 78% of the profit available to it for good performance, 2 points below the minimum needed to get an additional year automatically tacked onto its contract. It also got $20.8 million in additional, fixed profit.

But the National Nuclear Security Administration’s then-deputy administrator, Neile Miller, gave the lab an extra $541,527, pushing the performance profit over the 80% threshold to get the extra year. Total profit wound up being 88% of the maximum possible.

(At a congressional hearing in April 2013, Miller told lawmakers critical of the decision that she did so to support efforts from the lab’s new director to improve performance as a “one-time pass.”)

Livermore “takes its safety and security very seriously,” and the lab’s safety record has been improving, said Greg Wolf, National Nuclear Security Administration spokesman. “Employees go through extensive training, and work undergoes rigorous analysis to ensure protective measures are in place.”

The Center for Public Integrity is a non-profit investigative news organization in Washington, D.C.


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Post by Swamprat on Jun 30th, 2017, 1:54pm

Fukushima No. 1 Negligence Trial

Ex-Tepco execs plead innocent as 3/11 nuclear negligence trial kicks off

by Daisuke Kikuchi, Staff Writer
Jun 30, 2017

Three former top executives at Tokyo Electric pleaded not guilty Friday to charges related to the triple core meltdown at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in 2011, which forced at least 150,000 people to evacuate and caused considerable damage to the prefecture’s economy.

The trial, which opened Friday at the Tokyo District Court, is the first in which criminal charges have been pressed in connection with the Fukushima disaster.

Facing massive liabilities, the utility received a government bailout and was restructured into Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc. It is better known as Tepco.

Criminal complaints against more than 50 state and Tepco officials have been filed by residents of Fukushima and other people since 2012.

On trial are ex-Tepco chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata, 77, and former Vice Presidents Sakae Muto, 67, and Ichiro Takekuro, 71. The three are being charged with professional negligence resulting in death and injury.

The charges are linked to the deaths of about 40 patients at Futaba Hospital in the town of Futaba who were forced to flee the Fukushima area and later died.

The trial was set when a previous judgment by prosecutors not to pursue charges was overturned by an Inquest of Prosecution — a rare procedure that can be used to appeal such a decision before a panel of ordinary citizens.

According to a court spokeswoman, a line of more than 700 people began forming at 7:30 a.m. for a chance witness the trial and 54 were let in.

During Friday’s trial session, the three former executives apologized but maintained that it was impossible to foresee the giant tsunami that swamped the plant on March 11, 2011.

“I apologize for causing the serious accident,” said Katsumata, before adding that “it was impossible to predict.”

However, a government report published in 2011 concluded that Tepco was aware that a 15.7-meter-high tsunami could hit the plant if a giant quake occurred off the coast of Fukushima, based on a simulation in 2008 that modeled the impact of a tsunami on the plant, whose seawall was woefully overmatched by the powerful waves.

The 2002 estimate by the government’s Headquarters for Earthquake Research Promotion also estimated that there was a 20 percent chance of a magnitude 8 earthquake striking off Fukushima within 30 years.

The 2008 data were relayed to Takekuro and Muto, who were in charge of Tepco’s nuclear business at that time, and were also “very likely” to have been reported to Katsumata by June 2009 at the latest, according to an independent committee of citizens that reviewed the prosecutors’ decision not to press charges.

In court Friday, however, Katsumata told prosecutors that he has “no memory of having been briefed” on the information.

The main reason prosecutors had decided not to pursue a criminal case was their belief that the nuclear accident was unavoidable, even if the three had decided to introduce tsunami countermeasures based on the 2008 data.

The simulation suggested the need to build a seawall on the south side of the plant, covering a portion of coastline about 300 meters long. But in March 2011, tsunami reaching heights of around 14 to 15 meters impacted the east side of the plant, which faces the Pacific Ocean, swamping a far longer stretch of coastline.

As the hearing opened, a group that had pushed for the trial met at the House of Councilors, to share their experiences from the nuclear disaster with others and express their views on Tepco.

“I’m glad that the first hearing was finally held. We finally (came) all this way, and this is our true beginning,” said Miwa Chiwaki, one of the members of the group.

Named the Complainants for the Criminal Prosecution of the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster, the group had been submitting criminal complaints to prosecutors since June 2012, but it wasn’t until July 2015 that mandatory indictment for the three former executives was approved.

“No one has been held responsible so far, and the true background information of the Fukushima nuclear disaster remains unclear,” Chiwaki said.

Another speaker, Yui Kimura, said the blame rests with them: “They hide behind their job titles, and don’t accept their responsibilities as people.”

The triple meltdown in 2011 was the world’s worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986. It forced about 80,000 residents of the prefecture to leave their homes, many of them for good.

The 2011 mega-quake, tsunami and nuclear disaster left some 18,500 people dead or missing, but Tepco’s plants have not been officially blamed for causing any of the deaths.

“I know that this trial could become great motivation for the other trials (involving Tepco) taking place nationwide,” said Chiwaki.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/06/30/national/crime-legal/three-former-tepco-executives-go-trial-311-fukushima-nuclear-disaster/#.WVaVo1GQyUl


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by A k 9 on Jun 30th, 2017, 2:25pm

on Jun 30th, 2017, 1:54pm, Swamprat wrote:
Fukushima No. 1 Negligence Trial

Ex-Tepco execs plead innocent as 3/11 nuclear negligence trial kicks off

by Daisuke Kikuchi, Staff Writer
Jun 30, 2017

Three former top executives at Tokyo Electric pleaded not guilty Friday to charges related to the triple core meltdown at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in 2011, which forced at least 150,000 people to evacuate and caused considerable damage to the prefecture’s economy.

The trial, which opened Friday at the Tokyo District Court, is the first in which criminal charges have been pressed in connection with the Fukushima disaster.

Facing massive liabilities, the utility received a government bailout and was restructured into Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc. It is better known as Tepco.

Criminal complaints against more than 50 state and Tepco officials have been filed by residents of Fukushima and other people since 2012.

On trial are ex-Tepco chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata, 77, and former Vice Presidents Sakae Muto, 67, and Ichiro Takekuro, 71. The three are being charged with professional negligence resulting in death and injury.

The charges are linked to the deaths of about 40 patients at Futaba Hospital in the town of Futaba who were forced to flee the Fukushima area and later died.

The trial was set when a previous judgment by prosecutors not to pursue charges was overturned by an Inquest of Prosecution — a rare procedure that can be used to appeal such a decision before a panel of ordinary citizens.

According to a court spokeswoman, a line of more than 700 people began forming at 7:30 a.m. for a chance witness the trial and 54 were let in.

During Friday’s trial session, the three former executives apologized but maintained that it was impossible to foresee the giant tsunami that swamped the plant on March 11, 2011.

“I apologize for causing the serious accident,” said Katsumata, before adding that “it was impossible to predict.”

However, a government report published in 2011 concluded that Tepco was aware that a 15.7-meter-high tsunami could hit the plant if a giant quake occurred off the coast of Fukushima, based on a simulation in 2008 that modeled the impact of a tsunami on the plant, whose seawall was woefully overmatched by the powerful waves.

The 2002 estimate by the government’s Headquarters for Earthquake Research Promotion also estimated that there was a 20 percent chance of a magnitude 8 earthquake striking off Fukushima within 30 years.

The 2008 data were relayed to Takekuro and Muto, who were in charge of Tepco’s nuclear business at that time, and were also “very likely” to have been reported to Katsumata by June 2009 at the latest, according to an independent committee of citizens that reviewed the prosecutors’ decision not to press charges.

In court Friday, however, Katsumata told prosecutors that he has “no memory of having been briefed” on the information.

The main reason prosecutors had decided not to pursue a criminal case was their belief that the nuclear accident was unavoidable, even if the three had decided to introduce tsunami countermeasures based on the 2008 data.

The simulation suggested the need to build a seawall on the south side of the plant, covering a portion of coastline about 300 meters long. But in March 2011, tsunami reaching heights of around 14 to 15 meters impacted the east side of the plant, which faces the Pacific Ocean, swamping a far longer stretch of coastline.

As the hearing opened, a group that had pushed for the trial met at the House of Councilors, to share their experiences from the nuclear disaster with others and express their views on Tepco.

“I’m glad that the first hearing was finally held. We finally (came) all this way, and this is our true beginning,” said Miwa Chiwaki, one of the members of the group.

Named the Complainants for the Criminal Prosecution of the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster, the group had been submitting criminal complaints to prosecutors since June 2012, but it wasn’t until July 2015 that mandatory indictment for the three former executives was approved.

“No one has been held responsible so far, and the true background information of the Fukushima nuclear disaster remains unclear,” Chiwaki said.

Another speaker, Yui Kimura, said the blame rests with them: “They hide behind their job titles, and don’t accept their responsibilities as people.”

The triple meltdown in 2011 was the world’s worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986. It forced about 80,000 residents of the prefecture to leave their homes, many of them for good.

The 2011 mega-quake, tsunami and nuclear disaster left some 18,500 people dead or missing, but Tepco’s plants have not been officially blamed for causing any of the deaths.

“I know that this trial could become great motivation for the other trials (involving Tepco) taking place nationwide,” said Chiwaki.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/06/30/national/crime-legal/three-former-tepco-executives-go-trial-311-fukushima-nuclear-disaster/#.WVaVo1GQyUl





“No one has been held responsible so far, and the true background information of the Fukushima nuclear disaster remains unclear,” Chiwaki said.


For starters, how about NOT building reactors in tsunami / earthquake areas ...

Proper installation would help by placing backup generators in designated areas...

Know the schematics ...
( Condensor will fill with water when manually fed - So much for cooling the rods when some of the water went elsewhere.....)






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Post by Sys_Config on Jul 16th, 2017, 11:17pm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by Swamprat on Jul 20th, 2017, 09:14am

Aging U.S. power plants provide risks and opportunities

Date: July 19, 2017
Source: Carnegie Mellon University
Summary: When it comes to the current plans to retire US power plants, researchers believe we are 'running towards a cliff with no fence.' They found that power plant retirement trends will complicate achieving long-term carbon dioxide emission reduction targets and require a significant increase in capital investments.

Published in Energy Policy, CMU's David Rode and Paul Fischbeck and alumnus Antonio Páez, who now works for DAI Management Consultants, examined more than a century of power plant construction and retirement data. They found that power plant retirement trends will complicate achieving long-term carbon dioxide (CO2) emission reduction targets and require a significant increase in capital investments. Additionally, a shift in investment emphasis from adding megawatts of generating capacity at low cost to reducing tons of CO2 emissions is creating an imbalance that may pressure grid reliability over the next two decades.

"There has been comparatively little research into how long power plants actually live," said Rode, a doctoral candidate in the Department of Social and Decision Sciences. "Most of the industry is focused on the addition of new generating capacity, but the retirement of aging capacity is equally important."

While retiring older power plants is often thought of as a way to reduce emissions, as less efficient plants are taken out of service, the U.S. also stands to lose a substantial amount of zero-emitting power plants when the vast majority of the existing nuclear power plant fleet retires between 2030 and 2040, if not before.

"Some 90 percent of every megawatt ever built is still in operation and now is more than 28 years old on average," said Fischbeck, professor of social and decision sciences and engineering and public policy and a world renowned risk expert. "One of the interesting results from our study was that younger coal plants have tended to retire earlier than older coal plants. As these younger plants generally have lower emissions, their retirement tends to be less environmentally beneficial than initially thought."

With the failure of the EPA's proposed Clean Power Plan and the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, the U.S. is now without a national CO2 reduction objective. The removal of those regulatory constraints expands the opportunities available to utilities and improves their investment flexibility, but it also increases regulatory uncertainty. However, many regions, states and even cities continue to have mandates to reduce CO2 emissions. Coupled with the uncertainty surrounding future national CO2 regulation, these varying mandates create economic conditions that inhibit investment and thereby place even more emphasis on the continuing performance of existing power plants.

"A key factor in meeting these objectives -- or any future national ones -- will be the retirement of existing zero-emitting facilities," said Rode.

The study also provided insight into capital investment behavior in the power generation sector.

"Despite perennial claims of underinvestment, dollars invested have grown steadily -- in constant dollars -- for decades. The difference is that they have tended to lead to fewer megawatts of new capacity and have focused instead on reductions in emissions," Rode said.

Rode, Fischbeck and Páez looked at power sector capital investments and found that dollars spent per megawatt-hour generated has increased by nearly 300 percent over the past two decades. However, electric generation has increased by only 26 percent. The incremental expense growth has instead been channeled, in part, to improving environmental performance (tons of CO2 emitted per megawatt-hour) by 17 percent.

Páez said, "Evaluating whether this large increase in investment was well spent requires rethinking how investment performance is measured."

Given the country's rapidly aging power plants, retirements are likely to increase substantially after 2030.

"The spending required just to replace the retiring plants and meet a modest level of growth will require up to five times the level of historical investment activity," Fischbeck said.

Rode continued, "Our research shows that the amount of generation added in 2002, the previous record year, will be needed each year between 2030 and 2040 at a cost of more than $110 billion per year -- a level roughly three times that of the average of the last twenty years. There is no question that the implications of this retirement cliff after 2030 are significant from cost, reliability, and environmental perspectives. Careful planning must begin now."

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Materials provided by Carnegie Mellon University. Note: Content may be edited for style and length.
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Journal Reference:
1. David C. Rode, Paul S. Fischbeck, Antonio R. Páez. The retirement cliff: Power plant lives and their policy implications. Energy Policy, 2017; 106: 222 DOI: 10.1016/j.enpol.2017.03.058
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170719113334.htm


Re: EXTINCTION THROUGH APATHY
Post by INT21 on Jul 20th, 2017, 2:46pm

Swamp,

A very interesting synopsis.

I don't know how the current administration are going to square that particular circle.

But the combination of a few technologies may help.

Arizona and similar places with lots of sunshine could become the power generation centre for much of the USA.

To overcome the inconvenient fact that the Sun doesn't shine at night there is always the option of Liquid salt storage or even flywheel storage.
I understand that there was (is ?) such a flywheel storage system in Ireland.

It seems a relatively simple concept that shouldn't require expensive maintenance.

May not be such a good idea to build these in an Earthquake zone though.

There is an item on energy coming up on CNN on, I think, next Tuesday. It appears to be centred on Kazakhstan.

Should be interesting. Must set my Tivo Box.

HAL
INT21