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xx This "chemtrail" nonsense is beyond a joke now
« Thread started on: Aug 11th, 2014, 06:30am »

For some while now, I haven't bothered to post in any of these chemtrail / geoengineering threads because I thought they were harmless and it's a waste of time - if some people wish to carry on with the delusion that thousands of planes are flying all over world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals, and post millions of words in forums, blogs and social media etc about it, just let them get on with it as they are not doing anyone else any harm and I've got better things to do.

However, I have recently discovered that this is not entirely harmless after all, because for for several years now, a number of the more extreme nutters out there have been threatening to try to bring down commercial passenger planes (which of course, they believe to be evil gubbmint “chemtrail” planes) by blinding pilots with lasers and so on and have also made threats of violence against pilots at airports.

Many of these threats have been reported to the FBI, Homeland Security and other security organisations around the world, and posts of these threats on Facebook etc have been getting recorded at Metabunk since 2011, and are still appearing there now.

For example, here's one that was posted on Facebook only a few days ago. I have redacted the name, but rest assured it has been reported to the FBI:

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xx Re: This "chemtrail" nonsense is beyond
« Reply #1 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 06:42am »

Smersh,

Got to agree with you.

Sadly there are folks on this site that actually believe this stuff.

I have been on a plane (over Italy on my way back from Greece) that was illuminated by a green laser.

The whole interior of the plane was lit up with a green glow.

As I was at a window seat I could see that it originated from a yard right below us.

It did cross my mind that it would have been more of a hazard if the plane had been on it's final approach.

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 06:57am »

Hi Hal, yes, that must have been a pretty scary experience. Unfortunately, even though they are illegal in many countries, these high powered lasers are easily available on eBay and many other places online.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 10:26am »

Takem down Dano! wink
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 11:07am »

You do that here in the States (use lasers on aircraft) you're going to jail for a long time! They don't care what your reason is your going to the barred city!

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« Reply #5 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 4:25pm »

on Aug 11th, 2014, 06:42am, INT21 wrote:
Sadly there are folks on this site that actually believe this stuff.

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I want their names.

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 11th, 2014, 6:11pm »

Here's a few comments from morons posted in the comments yesterday, on a Youtube video (I think it was on an upload of "What in the World Are They Spraying.")

See posts 1253 and 1254 in the Metabunk thread on this page:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/advocating-violence-against-chemtrail-planes-pilots-scientists-and-debunkers.251/page-32#post-120782

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 31st, 2015, 09:24am »

I have just reported this idiot to the FBI:

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChemtrailHypernetwork/permalink/1019876068023223/?comment_id=1019893084688188&offset=0&total_comments=7&comment_tracking=%7B

Might help if a few more can report it as well:

https://tips.fbi.gov

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 17th, 2015, 12:45pm »

on Aug 11th, 2014, 11:07am, LoneGunMan wrote:
You do that here in the States (use lasers on aircraft) you're going to jail for a long time! They don't care what your reason is your going to the barred city!

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 17th, 2015, 2:09pm »

The chemtrail conspiracy thing has always been a joke imho.
It's right there with the Princess Diana and Moon landing conspiracy nonsense....and let's not forget the Reptilian alien thing as world leaders.

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 18th, 2015, 6:06pm »

on Sep 17th, 2015, 2:09pm, drwu23 wrote:
The chemtrail conspiracy thing has always been a joke imho.
It's right there with the Princess Diana and Moon landing conspiracy nonsense....and let's not forget the Reptilian alien thing as world leaders.

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WHAThuh?? Major cognitive dissonance here! Next you'll be telling me Elvis, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, and JFK are not living at the secret UFO base in the Bermuda Triangle. shocked
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 3rd, 2015, 8:43pm »

You fools,Don't you ever look ^,There is waaay too much evidence.
The sky everyone takes for granted is seldomly looked has changed drastically.
In the Spring,Do you not see the criss -cross of the jets as they fly across the heavens?
I have videoed this.
There are pilots which have come publicly and stated,"We have polluted the Earth and our US government has allowed this".
Do some research,you'll find so much.
It may change your mind.
Look ^^^^^^.....

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« Reply #12 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 4:45pm »

on Dec 3rd, 2015, 8:43pm, jm57 wrote:
You fools,Don't you ever look ^,There is waaay too much evidence.


No there isn't. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Crank claims by scammers promoting the chemtrail hoax, out to con people out of their hard-earned cash and parroted all over the place by their gullible followers does not constitute evidence.

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Apart from there being far more contrails in the sky these days, because far more planes are flying, the sky has not changed at all.

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In the Spring,Do you not see the criss -cross of the jets as they fly across the heavens?


Yes, of course they criss-cross. Planes don't all fly in the same direction do they? Depends on where they are coming from and where they are going.

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There are pilots which have come publicly and stated,"We have polluted the Earth and our US government has allowed this".


The only ones I've ever seen are from liars who pretend they have done this so they can have a laugh. And they have all been exposed as such as well.

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I've done my research thanks, which is how I know chemtrails are an internet hoax. Have you done yours?

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Here's how contrails are formed, whether persistant or not. If the atmosphere at that altitude is ice-supersaturated, the trails will persist and spread wide, just like normal clouds do because they both consist of just water vapour:

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And aside from the science, which does not support the chemtrail claims at all, how do you think it is possible for any aircraft to carry thousands of tons of chemicals to make miles long trails in the sky, weighing thousands of tons?

And how is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 5:35pm »

Probably a stupid question but has anyone collected samples from within a supposed chemtrail? Seems quite doable and sensible if one wants to prove their belief.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 7:02pm »

on Dec 7th, 2015, 5:35pm, GhostofEd wrote:
Probably a stupid question but has anyone collected samples from within a supposed chemtrail? Seems quite doable and sensible if one wants to prove their belief.


Not so far, no. And in fact that's the one piece of evidence that the chemmies could collect (by all of them clubbing together to raise enough money to hire a plane and necessary equipment) to prove or disprove their claims once and for all. I guess they haven't bothered because once they've been shown to be wrong, that's the end of their fantasy and for the scammers, their gravy train of money.

That said, Michael J. Murphy (maker of the "What In The World Are They Spraying" film and its follow-ups) said he's planning to do just that for his next film. However, as he's planning to use a glider to attempt to collect a sample from a trail at 30,000 feet, it seems like his next film will never appear, but he's still happy to collect donations for it from his followers though ...
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