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« Thread started on: Aug 27th, 2016, 11:31am »

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Clark: So in other words there is such a thing as a solid, three-dimensional flying saucer.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc608.htm

Vallee: No, I didn't say that. That may or may not be true. I don't think there is such a thing as the flying saucer phenomenon. I think it has three components and we have to deal with them in different ways.

First, there is a physical object. That may be a flying saucer or it may be a projection or it may be something entirely different. All we know about it is that it represents a tremendous quantity of electromagnetic energy in a small volume. I say that based upon the evidence gathered from traces, from electromagnetic and radar detection and from perturbations of the electromagnetic fields such as Dr. Claude Poher, the French space scientist, has recorded.

Second, there's the phenomenon the witnesses perceive. What they tell us is that they've seen a flying saucer. Now they may have seen that or they may have seen an image of a flying saucer or they may have hallucinated it under the influence of microwave radiation, or any of a number of things may have happened. The fact is that the witnesses were exposed to an event and as a result they experienced a highly complex alteration of perception which caused them to describe the object or objects that figure in their testimony.

Beyond there - the physical phenomenon and the perception phenomenon - we have the third component, the social phenomenon. That's what happens when the reports are submitted to society and enter the cultural arena. That's the part which I find most interesting.


1790: Sphere Exploded in Alencon, France

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"Summary/Description: At 0500A, some peasants perceived an enormous globe apparently wrapped in flames, which flew at a high speed with a hissing noise. It slowed down, oscillated, and then fell on the crest of a hill, uprooting some plants on the hillside.

It emitted such great heat that it started a brush fire, which the peasants brought under control. By evening, the sphere was still warm. A crowd including among others, 2 mayors, a doctor, and “5 other authorities” had assembled.

A sort of door suddenly opened, and a person dressed in a skintight garment emerged. Seeing the crowd, he muttered something incomprehensible, and ran into the woods. Shortly afterwards, the sphere silently exploded, throwing in every direction fragments that burned to a powder. A search for the mysterious man proved fruitless. A police inspector named Liabeuf made a repot to the Academie des Sciences, which did not take it seriously. The crater in the hillside left by the sphere remained visible for years. The crater in the hillside left by the sphere remained visible for years."


http://www.treesearch.com/reddit/UFO1790France.pdf

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 27th, 2016, 1:07pm »

Good Catch Z!
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 28th, 2016, 4:29pm »

I saw part it said exploded with fragments but did not see if the fragments were studied or kept..
that would be great to read further about
Shortly afterwards, the sphere silently exploded, throwing in every direction fragments that burned to a powder.
ahh just caught that dissolved.. in the video but powdered in the text version..reminds me of some magnesium and tantalum or cerium metals that ignite in air or contact with water.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 28th, 2016, 4:59pm »

SYS,

TO WIT:

"Shortly afterwards, the sphere silently exploded, throwing in every direction fragments that burned to a powder.
ahh just caught that dissolved.."

COULD'VE BEEN FOLLOWING S.O.P. cool

"It's not uncommon for U.S. military forces to destroy an aircraft downed in a foreign land, but U.S. Special Forces had particular cause to blow up the ill-fated helo that participated in"... wink

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/secret-stealth-helicopters-ferried-troops-obl-kill-operation

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 28th, 2016, 10:03pm »

yeah would have been good if had something like that then
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 9:01pm »

only a couple of metals do that

Thallium:
Symbol: Tl
Atomic Number: 81
Atomic Weight: 204.3833
Density: 11.85 g/cc
Melting Point: 304 degrees C

Thallium is a very soft silvery metal resembling lead. Like lead it can be cut with a knife. The metal will tarnish quickly in air and would eventually turn into a pile of black powder if left exposed. As a result is usually stored under water. The metal and its compounds are very toxic and at one time the sulfide/sulfate was used as rat poison before being banned for household use. Touching the metal must be avoided as absorption can occur. The metal was named after the green spectral line that was exhibited when it was discovered spectroscopically in 1861. Soon afterward the metal itself was isolated for the first time. Low-melting glasses are one use of thallium which will lower the melting point of glass significantly when mixed with glass along with sulfur or selenium.




Barium:
Symbol: Ba
Atomic Number: 56
Atomic Weight: 137.327
Density: 3.5 g/cc
Melting Point: 727 degrees C

Barium is a reactive metallic element of the alkaline-earth series of metals which includes calcium, magnesium, beryllium and strontium. The metal is soft and silvery white like lead. It oxidizes very easily and it is quite reactive with water, liberating hydrogen gas. A freshly exposed surface of the metal will tarnish to a white color within seconds, creating the oxide/peroxide. A piece left in open air will crumble to white oxide powder overnight. The metal is used as a oxygen getter in vacuum tubes due to its reactivity and affinity for oxygen. Barium compounds impart green colors to flames and are used in paints and glasses as well as fireworks. Barium and its compounds are also toxic and need to be handled with great care.

an alloy of some kind perhaps..
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 3rd, 2016, 10:59pm »

SYS,

TO WIT:

"only a couple of metals do that" ~ YEP

"an alloy of some kind perhaps" ~ YEP

FOLLOWING UR LEAD ~ ONE MUST CONSIDER...

Thallium was named after the Greek word thallos, meaning green shoot or twig. It was named after its green spectral line. Discovery: British chemist William Crookes discovered thallium spectroscopically in >>> 1861 <<<. Both Crookes and French chemist Claude Auguste Lamy isolated the element in >>> 1862 <<< independently

https://www.google.com/search?q=when+was+thallium+discovered&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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"Barium is named after the Greek word for heavy,barys. Discovery: Baryta, the term for several barium compounds, was distinguished from lime by German chemist Carl Wilhelm Scheele in >>> 1774 <<<; the element was discovered by Sir Humphrey Davy in >>> 1808 <<<"

https://www.google.com/search?q=when+was+barium+discovered&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

CIRCA 1790 ~ SEEMS SOMEONE HAD FORGED AHEAD WITH THOSE ALLOYS wink

BUT THEN AGAIN cool

Dr Vallee, a respected scientist who has spoken before the United Nations, cites this case as evidence of visitors from some other world. Dr Vallee notes the many similarities to modern accounts of “UFOs”.


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"The globe slowed down,made some oscillations and
precipitated itself towards the top of a hill,
unearthing plants along the slope. The heat which
emanated from it was so intense that soon the grass
and the small tree started burning."


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Mr. Zetar....I am Impressed wink
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 4th, 2016, 9:38pm »

Magnesium
Magnesium Titanium alloy

They will almost disappear when burnt. Specially Magnesium!

I've made them disappear! Accidentally......honest!

Coolant quit while machining. About 2 seconds without the coolant and it ignites!


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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #9 on: Oct 14th, 2016, 2:57pm »

Have you ever added sodium to water? rolleyes
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