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« Reply #1283 on: Aug 11th, 2008, 5:17pm »

Originally posted by FXModels on 11th Aug 2008
(Post moved here from Drone Board #5)

on Sep 3rd, 2007, 6:08pm, oljack666 wrote:
Lastly, Mark D' Antonio was MUFONs other "expert" as you already know. The following you've already seen and I'll tell you now that they are Mark's clients that he builds models for.

United States Joint Chiefs, Washington D.C
Curtiss Wright Flow Control Corporation
Northrop Grumman / Newport News
General Dynamics
Nautilus Memorial Museum
USS Connecticut (SSN22) Commissioning Committee
Naval War College Museum
Lockheed Martin, Undersea Systems (Virginia), Space Systems (Sunnyvale)
Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Carderock, MD
Smithsonian Institution / EDS, Washington, DC
The United States Congress
The Foreign Ambassadors to the United States
United States Navy
GMD/Japan Research Laboratory Kitakyushu Japan
NAVSEA (US NAVY)
US Congress

And to think that he was a MUFON investigator while these were his clients. Some don't think it matters but some do. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's bothersome.



on Aug 11th, 2008, 1:40pm, fxmodels wrote:
Wow... I apologize for the late discovery of this particular post and my now probably WAY too late response. But, by way of introduction here, I see that someone was raising a potential issue with my credibility since I do indeed do model work of various kinds, physical and digital, for some government agencies. I certainly understand and concede that my client list could cause suspicion.

But... one thing you need to do I believe is to put to bed the notion that all people associated with government are suspicious or disinformation specialists. I am flattered that you are bothered by my background in a way but only because in reviewing my own partial client list I said "Wow... I guess we HAVE done some pretty cool work!". wink
In any case, I harbor no ill will toward the author of that post because I can certainly understand the reaction. But here in a nutshell is some more background so you can see that I am indeed sincere.

1: I am an experiencer.
I ended up on a two year odyssey to remove a sinus based 'thing' that was placed there during a night time visit by 'who knows who'. My case is documented and was the most frightening thing I have ever experienced. I am an in-shape, many years long Tae-Kwan-Do person who was completely and totally immobilized, unable to utilize any skillset to extricate myself from the situation. I was as awake as I am now. I could not talk, I could not move my EYES, I could not move, and my ears were 'shut off'. All I saw was peripheral movement of a 'creature' that ran a translucent wand in front of my face. The next morning when I awoke unable to breathe, I pushed off the pillow to discover it was SATURATED in blood. I felt like I was punched in the face. A visit to the Ear Nose and Throat doctor in Hartford CT some time later confirmed a large mass in my sinus that the Dr removed. He sent it to pathology for examination and ... it vanished. Pathology claimed they never received it and it was gone forever. I have no results. Budd Hopkins is a friend, and I will be seeing him soon in Manhattan to discuss some things.

2: I was a MUFON investigator for YEARS before I thought of starting my own model making business. So no, I was not investigating while serving my clients.

3:I discussed the Drone Hoax in a presentation that Jim Carrion asked me to do out in San Jose this past week or two ago and showed how a CG version of the drone could be easily created and why I felt strongly that the imagery was all hoaxed. I also examined the artifacts and deduced their CG nature as well. Someone who does disinformation I guess would do exactly what I did. But, the drone is a CG hoax. I am not the only one who said it, as Michael Naisbitt on this board also has done his independent analysis along with about 30 others on various boards and using high end tools as we use every day.

4: I do photo analysis for most of the states in the USA, and for various other countries. A misinformation person would not be able to carry this out too long before the 'truth' was known and his credibility ruined. You know how it is... The higher the profile the larger the target. Well, I say unequivocally on this board that I am not one such person and there is nothing anyone can find that would indicate this about me or my company. I have never spread disinformation and just stick to the science and the fact. Opinions are crafted from data that all can examine and data is from third party sources 100%of the time so far although I intend to do my own data collection at some point.

5: I just did a UFO Hunters spot while in San Jose and just returned from a Discovery Channel shoot, both of which were multiple days and involved photo analysis, witness interaction, and on camera reputation making/breaking [ha ha]. I do not say or do things that will damage not only my reputation but my company's. My company has found a military niche yes, but that is all it is.

So that is just some background. I respect opinions even contrary opinions to my own. I always try to see how the other opinion's reason for existence is based on something. What that 'something' is, is important to take note of and be mindful of so that rash judgment will not be delivered.

Thanks for the time all, and again sorry for my late response to this very old post but it needed to be said.

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« Reply #1284 on: Aug 11th, 2008, 5:34pm »

on Aug 11th, 2008, 5:12pm, DrDil wrote:
Hi Marc,

Welcome to UFOCasebook!!

I hope youíre well and congratulations on your recent Drone/Mufon presentation.

The thread where this comment was originally posted should have been locked.

Iíve copied your post and this response to the most relevant (& recent) Drone thread which is a continuation of the main discussion on the Drones.


Thanks Michael... I didnt realize it was supposed to be locked ...
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« Reply #1285 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 4:11pm »

I have used High End tools also and see no real conclusive sign of a hoax. We have made over 50 Drone models and we know from where we speak.
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PS: We will be most pleased to show each and every one of them. The Drone saga will not end by DECLARATION.
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« Reply #1286 on: Aug 13th, 2008, 10:51pm »

on Aug 11th, 2008, 5:34pm, fxmodels wrote:
Thanks Michael... I didnt realize it was supposed to be locked ...

Hi Fx hey dont worry about that, Mufos J.Carrion was an ex NSA computer guy. Did someone forget the adage fight fire with fire.Perhaps it would be better to consult with whitleys and Lindas experts. Where are they?
Ohio has a mufon director, that comes from a family of ufo believers, She has no qualms in saying so.I dont yell biased reports, though someone else might. I too am an experiencer, twice. One orbs, and other a vanishing plane. But this case. I think was quite transparent from the getgo.

@Leviathan the fact you have 50 models, even more exquisite and complex, makes FXS point on reproducibility, as well as his skill in judging. And I believe you yourself had some reservations about some of the pix, Raj I believe. not sure.
I take your point, however, its in the mind tream for other artists and movie makers as well..Its natural environment the mind, but not an episodic event like 911 that has multiple verifiable pix, video, and traumatized witnesses that come foward.I like your recent blog postings as well by the way.nice articles, foward thinking, and art. You will definitely do well.
cheers
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« Reply #1287 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 07:27am »

on Aug 10th, 2008, 10:07am, Truether wrote:
The CG debate is designed to be endless. SO MOTE IT BE.
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« Reply #1288 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 10:06am »

been away for a while... did I miss anything new? LOL
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« Reply #1289 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 10:18am »

well I see some of the "usual suspects" are still here keeping the subject alive with some great links and ideas.

I see that DrDil is still here.. and of course, he never sent me that picture -- CHICKEN ( * )<

Vonstern still posting his magazine

Leviathan still talking about "we" when there is no "we" other than maybe his multi-personalities.

Yup... not much has changed.
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« Reply #1290 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 11:01am »

We, is our polite way to indicate the "GROUP". The Drone/Isaac Issue is being prepared for the second fase of its cycle. It has done its job. The myth is established. This is what "WE" wanted.
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« Reply #1291 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 11:13am »

Do you think the DRT will be angry you outlived them and what do you recommend to them to stay alive, after all you ,are pushing myth, and they a different route. Also,You did warn them repeatedly not to waste time on the photgraphs but they seemed to turn a deaf ear to sound advice. Even Vonsterns will survive because he uses Drones, as one of many of class of propelled objects, which have always been tested and or are in works. So both of you are in ready shape to address many things than the just one issue like DRT, ie, you have room to grow.
What do you think?
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« Reply #1292 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 1:28pm »

So, basically, Lev... nic.... true... or whatever your name is this week, you and your imaginary "group" are now taking the credit for creating the drone MYTH lol how funny you are. Drones are real... you are dillusional, and you only WISH you were part of ANY group. Especially since most of the online groups have already asked you to leave a few times. OK I will shut up now, sorry MODS lol
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« Reply #1293 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 1:55pm »

on Aug 14th, 2008, 10:18am, castles4me wrote:
well I see some of the "usual suspects" are still here keeping the subject alive with some great links and ideas.

I see that DrDil is still here.. and of course, he never sent me that picture -- CHICKEN ( * )<

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Yup... not much has changed.

He, he, Castles, I see that obviously I donít fall under the *great links and ideas* category but rather as an addendum to the statement!!

Have you missed me?
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on Aug 14th, 2008, 10:06am, castles4me wrote:
been away for a while... did I miss anything new? LOL grin

(Did you know they were a hoax? User Image)

Only joking of course Castles, merely my opinion which you well knowÖ..

Cheers and it's nice to hear from you again!! smiley kiss
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« Reply #1294 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 2:10pm »

Ahh DrDil... I see you have added some new emoticons to your repertoire. You sure have a lot of kissy-face ones... sure likes YOU are the one who was missing Moi tongue
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« Reply #1295 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 3:08pm »

on Aug 14th, 2008, 2:10pm, castles4me wrote:
You sure have a lot of kissy-face ones... sure likes YOU are the one who was missing Moi tongue

Sure Castles, Iím big enough to admit that indeed I have missed your *ropey* theories, suspect reasoning and flawed rationale but I didnít want to embarrass you by mentioning the hours Iíve spent pining for your ruminations whilst contemplating your continued absence.

on Aug 14th, 2008, 2:10pm, castles4me wrote:
Ahh DrDil... I see you have added some new emoticons to your repertoire.

I have added one or two other things to my repertoire as well, probably not to your liking (I suspect like most things I write/believe/do/think/am etc.) but I guess you canít please all of the people all of the timeÖ.

I suppose thatís also why I donít try to please anyone, oh and speaking of which don't YOU dare go changing just to try and please ME, m'kay.....
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« Reply #1296 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 6:37pm »

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So, basically, Lev... nic.... true... or whatever your name is this week, you and your imaginary "group" are now taking the credit for creating the drone MYTH lol how funny you are. Drones are real... you are dillusional, and you only WISH you were part of ANY group. Especially since most of the online groups have already asked you to leave a few times. OK I will shut up now, sorry MODS lol


We do not take credit for anything and you are completely inoffensive because you are very usable. You are now bringing attention to this weary old post. As long as you slam us, the Mods have been trained not to oppose you. We have what we want the rest is extra. It is nearing time to put the Drones to bed for a while, but you will make a nice touch in reactivating the Drone posts here for a while. If this ignores most of what you say, know it was on purpose, but still a job well done. The Blood is the life and it tastes good again.
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« Reply #1297 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 8:06pm »

The Drones do not look like Dragonflys, they move like them. That is if you consider them real.
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