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xx history of the most secret Nazi science experiment
« Thread started on: Feb 3rd, 2011, 9:01pm »

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The secret history of the most secret Nazi science experiment.



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In all the annals of WWII science history none is as secret as "The Bell" whose history is closely entwined with that of Nicolas Tessla. (1) Tessla is without question the greatest genius of world history after Leonardo da Vinci and like da Vinci his secret inventions have been hidden away by governments. When Tessla died a full RR freight car of his notes and unapplied for patents and observations were confiscated, the largest percentage of these dealt with work that was then continued by the SS in the Bell project. The American government has sequestered all of Tessla's research in secret achieves ever since. Tessla had well over 300 patents, 278 issued by the US patent office. He gave us AC current; three phase induction motors, the radio, and hundreds of electrical inventions now in use. Even more on secret technologies like rotary magnetic fields, particle beam weapons, death rays, scalar physics (2) and anti gravity aircraft have been stored away in secret archives of the OSS (3) later called the CIA. The Bell was the Nazi continuation of research that Tessla had been involved in for decades.

NOTE: Tessla did not believe that Einstein's mostly plagiarized, theory of relativity was correct; he considerd Einstein's theory's to be incompatible with his own theories. Bearing in mind that Tessla was a man of action and in most instances proved his statements. He produced over 100 times the amount of scientific physics and over 250 patents relating thereto than Einstein, we should consider his position most seriously, as did the Nazis. Einstein like Edison was a product of media hype whose prime ability revolved around their clever manipulation of the mainstream media.

What exactly the results of the Bell experiments produced is only known by a select few people. There is however a short list of assumed science that may be applicable to the experiments and those are below enumerated:

Present day support for the theories presented in this paper are supported by Russian scientist Podkletov that relate to Superconductivity experiments carried out by him in Finland in 1992. His research indicated a loss of up to 2% of the weight of objects suspended above a set of rotating discs of superconductivity material. This is Electrogravitics as presented by the hypothesis of Thomas Townsend Brown in his paper titled" An Electrically Generated Propulsive Force". In use today are electromagnetic fields as applied in stealth aircraft, specifically the B2 Bomber


•Aircraft with propulsion systems that are non-chemical or not based on fossil fuels, but rather on levitation. As well as vortex powered and electrically driven aircraft.
•Energy weapons that could project some forms of energy over great distances.
•Time dimensional movement in space brought on by electrical and magnetic fields including radiation.
•Space travel at speeds in excess of the speed of light by factors of over 100x.
•Expansion of the flying saucers technology that had already been tested and flown in 1934, but powered by anti-gravitational propulsion rather than vortex dynamics.
•Transmutation of chemical elements. (Side effect of experiments)
In a lecture given by Tessla in 1938 titled The "Dynamic theory of gravity" he listed the above points as applicable results to his theory. He further stated that these would become apparent when he released that information to the world upon completion of his secret research. It was never released, he died before the information could be released, the government has it. Astrophysicist commonly known about space-time distortions and their effect on time is an accepted scientific theory. The fact that solar and stellar magnetic fields are the prime reason of climatic changes as well as affecting all plant and animal life is well known; In 1945 Daimler Benz in Unter-Turkheim near Stuttgart developed a secret weapon that was premiered on April 25, 1945. The weapon based on magnetic and thermodynamics was able to shut down any internal combustion engine whose electrics were operated by a Magneto (Vertex or standard) at a range of up to 3 Klm. It did not work on battery-operated engines.

The Bell was a huge experiment in Torsion Scalar & Aether (4) Field Physics. The fields created by the "Gloke" bent time. (The space-time continuum) The project was begun in 1937 and continued on in Germany until 1945. They bent the direction of space around the generator. (Die Gloke) When space is bent time is also bent. NASA experiments indicate that Einstein's theory is not correct. These experiments indicate that light pulses can be caused to exceed the speed of light. These experiments are called "Superluminal Quantum Tunneling". Furthermore if as is known, light is affected by gravity it will bend around a magnetic field, thus if light emanates from the same origin and travels in a straight line it will exceed the time taken for the bent beam to its destination. Known results of these experiments were disastrous upon technicians, plants and all living organisms within the Bell's sphere of influence. To contain the experiments above ground they built a large concrete "Bird Cage" as was also used in helicopter flight experiments by the Germans. The concrete birdcage still stands today in Poland. The project was headed up by SS Obergruppenfuerer (5) Emil Mazuw who was a personal friend of Hitler as well as Himmler. Experiments began in 1937 in Silesia (6) centered at the SS controlled castle of Wewelsburg ending in 1944 and were then continued in Argentina by the Nazis and eventually by the American government as an alternate space program paralleling that of NASA. The Nazis transported the entire research some of it's prominent scientists, it's SS commander and the Bell in a six engine Junkers JU 390 (7) from Silesia to Norway and from there to Argentine where Peron was enamored of the Nazis. The JU 390 was one of the first aircraft capable of air-to-air refueling, a process developed by the Luftwaffe in the 1940's. An understanding of the importance of this project to the Nazis is the fact that over 60 technicians and scientists were liquidated by the SS upon termination of it, to prevent the research from falling into Soviet or American hands. The Nazis considered this experiment far more important than nuclear physics. They had already tested a small nuclear device by appearance a neutron device in the Baltic on March 4, 1945 at Ohrdruf. The Manhattan Project was bailed out in its inability to produce a nuclear weapon by the surrender of U-234 and it's cargo of fissile uranium and nuclear device components including timers and detonators as aided by Martin Bormann. The U-boat surrendered on May 16, 1945 at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Portsmouth NH. Cargo and particulars has been listed as top secret, photos can be seen on the Internet.

Various code names for the project may shed some light onto its planned purpose. First name was Tor that translates to door or gate, second name was Chronos that in Greek translates to time. So Time Gate would appear to have been the original purpose. The region where the research was carried out Silesia was code named Der Riese, translating to The Giant that may have something to do with the size of the project that spanned miles and numerous bases, castles and some of which were located in closed coal mines.

A separate cell designated Forschung Entwicklung Patenete (8) (FEP) within the Waffen SS commanded this project. The head of FEP was a naval officer Admiral Rheim. Virtually nothing is known about either Rheim or Mazuw. The fact that a high-ranking naval officer was involved at the top of the command structure and that Mazuw was also a previous naval officer, also tells us that some considerable heavy fabrication, either of containment or flight was necessitated. Additionally Waffen SS Brigadenfuerer Heinrich Gaertner and Kammler of the of the SS armaments R& D office in Berlin was also in the command loop. Let's consider that the Nazis were anything but stupid, in technology they were many years ahead of the rest of the world so when they place some of the top ranking naval and heavy weapons officers in charge of a project it must obviously have demonstrated considerable promise.

A fact relevant to this paper on the Bell is the personnel that worked on it from about 1939 to 1944 that's five years. This list includes some of the most prominent heavy weight scientists of the 20th century.

Admiral Rhein Kriegsmarine assigned to the Bell project; virtually no information on this man is available from American or European sources. His position was so secret that even his military record has been purged. Organizational structure FEP, under the command of Mazuw.

SS Obergruppenfuerer Emil Mazuw Born September 21 1900 Death reported but unverified. Similar to that of SS Konandant Ost Heinrich Mueller a lot of BS and very little proven facts. Recippiant of The Honorary Saber by Himmler and promoted to the highest rank of the SS by Hitler on Hitler's birthday. Also the skull and crossbones ring by Goering signed by Himmler. Ran the Bell project from 1939 to 1944. By trade a metalworker and naval officer. Organizational structure SS high command Martin Bormann, Heinrich Himmler. Reichsmarashall Heinrich Goering.

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xx Re: history of the most secret Nazi science experi
« Reply #1 on: Feb 3rd, 2011, 9:05pm »

Professor Dr. Walter Gerlach Born 1889 died 1979 Physicist. Inventor of Spin Quarzification in a magnetic field U. of Tuebingen from 1908 onward. Involved with the famous Max Plank Institute as well as the Kaiser Wilhelm Gesellschaft. All of his research papers as well as his diary are still classified.

Dr. Kurt Debus Born Nov 19, 1908 Died Oct 10, 1983 University of Darmstadt, design and rocket engineer employed at Peenemuende as designer on V-2 Rockets but then transferred to the Bell project. Member of the "Paperclip"(9) transfer of German scientists after WWII. Worked for NASA until his death.

DR. Elizabeth Adler Particulars unavailable but was an extraordinary mathematician. Pulled into the Bell project to help with mathematics.

DR. Hermann Julius Oberth Born 25 June 1894 died 28 December 1989 Physicist and mechanical engineer. Considerd one of the three fathers of modern rocketry and astronautics. Taken into the Bell project from Peenemuende. Member of Project 'Paperclip" worked for NASA until his death.

Prof Peter Herbert Jensen 1913-1955 University of Mainz. Nuclear physicist transferred in 1942 from the nuclear energy project (Uranverrein) to the Bell project. Formerly with the Max Plank Institute for Chemistry where he was director of the high-voltage section which he directed.

DR. Kurt Debus Born 1908 retired from NASA in 1974 Mechanical and electrical engineer University of Darmstadt doctorate. Specialized in high energy and high voltage electrics. Later rocket and aeronautical engineering. Worked on Saturn as well as Apollo multistage rocket design. Was transferred to the Bell project from Peenemuende in 1943.

Viktor Schauberger Austrian Born Jun 30 1885 Died Sept 25 1940. Inventor and naturalist. Father of implosion technology and Vortex fluid Dynamics. Developed "Repulsin "A" in the Bell project a flying saucer developed many patents ideas ran along those of Tessla. His turbines are among the most efficient ever devised. (Viril Mitglied)

Dr. Wilfried Otto Schurmann Electrical engineer Inventor of the Schumann effect. High energy physics, high voltage electrics, participant in the 1934 flying saucers of the Nazis. Model RFZ (Fliegende Flug Zeug) Thule/Viril Type. Worked with Dr. Popper (Austrian after the war employed by C. &E Fein Stuttgart) also an electrical engineer.

Dr. Professor Giyseppe Bellonzo Member of Mussolini's cabinet scientists and minister of industry in Italy went to USA after the war in operation Paperclip. Part of the Bellonzo-Schriver disc team.

The list of personnel involved in the Bell project is extensive and I must again emphasize that these were no lightweights. Even the technicians were of the highest possible caliber and had been recruited from all other defense and military projects in the Axis. The SS recruited people out of the nuclear programs, Peenemuende and the rocket programs, and scores of universities and institutes. The largest percentage of surviving scientists involved in "Die Gloke" later went to work for NASA having been brought to the United States in operation "Paperclip".

Established Physics accepts that there is some relationship between relativity theory, gravity and electromagnetism and that space and time are interrelated with these scientific phenomenon. It thus is not unreasonable to hypothesize that there is also a relationship of space-time caused by the distortion of a field as those produced by the Bell.

The power required by the Bell was electric energy. The Foo-fighters commonly exposed by B 52 aircraft of WWII were powered by a different non-chemical means. The NASA, PPP program (Propulsion Physics Program) that may be related to the secret Aurora aircraft project, is based on a new and different propulsion technology. The traditional theory of space as being empty is now accepted to be incorrect. Space it is now assumed is not an empty vacuum but is a furious mass of energy with particles flashing in and out of existence at their zero-point baselines. Laboratory tests demonstrate that even at –273.15 degrees C in a vacuum these particles still exist. The problem is that no one has been successful in harnessing this energy until the Bell project verified this possibility and the propulsion of Foo-fighters by the SS.

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« Reply #2 on: Feb 3rd, 2011, 9:06pm »

It is obvious that when examined in the light of the aforementioned information that this physics experiment, which lasted some years consisted of two separate and distinctly different projects both of which shared the same sources of power, and some ancillary ones as well. Firstly coming out of Tessa's work there were experiments in high voltage effects upon gravity in a probable attempt to develop some sort of anti-gravity craft and space time continuum distortions to attain time travel. Secondly was the Tessla death ray. Ancillary experiments dealt with energy weapons and travel beyond the speed of light. These experiments would be in concert with Tessa's research in his later years of which very little is known.
Available descriptions are incomplete from a scientific view but some known information relating to exterior and some interior as well as other descriptions are as follows. The bell was shaped like a huge acorn the larger bottom of which was inscribed by many runes. It was made of ceramic similar to high voltage line insulators. (Pear shaped) The bell was just about one meter in diameter and about two and a half meters long. The center diameter was approximately one meter. The inside consisted of a central hollow core about with two large cylinders rotated at very high speed in opposite directions. The rotating cylinders were made of a silvery alloy rotating on the common axis. The core shaft was about 20 cm in diameter with the lower end firmly attached to a pedestal upon which the bell sat. The shaft was made of a hardened tool steel alloy, of unknown type. Before each test a vacuum container made of ceramic was placed within the shaft that was partially hollow. This vacuum container was only 30 mm in diameter and about 1 to 1.5 m long. It was filled with a metallic substance that had a violet-golden appearance with constancy similar to gelatin. This substance was coded with the name IRR SERUM- 252, (10) which consisted in part of: thorium-oxide, beryllium, oxide, (beryllia) and mercury. It was radioactive. Mercury was also inside the spinning cylinders inside the bell. The mercury was cooled by liquid oxygen and liquid nitrogen during operation, which has a centigrade temperature of –118.6 for Oxygen and –273.0 for Nitrogen. I believe this to be in error, unless the temperature rise within the bell was so huge that it required that sort of cooling to keep the mercury from boiling. The drums, i.e. rotational cylinders would be unlikely to spin in a solution of mercury that has a freezing point of –38.83 Deg. Centigrade. Power consumption was huge and varied from DC to ultra low to ultra high hertz ratings. The possibility exists that the mercury was inside the drums and formed a layer on the inside of the drums as they began to spin. The Liquids of oxygen and nitrogen could probably have been used to cool transformers. The Bell discharged huge amounts of electrical energy and magnetic fields at various low and high frequencies.
Available information relating to carried out tests is likewise incomplete but some of the known facts are: Two types of tests were carried out. The most common tests were underground in a chamber that would be similar to an underground swimming pool. The second in the "birdcage" above ground, which may be assumed to have only been, used in the flight versions. A water pool of about 20 cm depth was located across the entire floor below the birdcage. We know from reported information that underground chambers were destroyed after three tests because the structural integrity of the walls was compromised. The Bell glowed violet when activated by external electric current, and after the cylinders began to spin. Rubber mats (destroyed after each test) were used over the ceramic tile that covered the walls and water was pooled on the floor. These would be radiation barriers. Personnel were always kept from 150 to 200 meters (450 to 600 ft) from the operating experiments, that were recorded by remote filming and even at that distance workers wore rubber suits and helmets with red colored lenses on the face helmet portion. The effect of experiments reached a distance of over 200 m from the Bell and had dire impact on all living things within its range. Single as well as poly-phase electrics were effected, light bulbs exploded, magnetic fields broke watches, workers experienced a metallic taste in their mouths, problems with their central nervous systems, headraces, pins & needles in extremities, sleep loss, and equilibrium problems. During May to June of 1944 when full-scale tests began five of the seven lead scientists died due to exposure. Effects were both short as well as long term and surrounding substances suffered for a long time. When started up the Bell produced a loud humming like in a beehive thus the name given it by laborers (Der Bienenstock). In the first tests, plants exposed became gray possibly due to the corruption of chlorophyll, and their eventual decomposition into grease like substance. Living organism's blood solidified.

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 3rd, 2011, 9:07pm »

with the magnetic properties of the Bell. Two counter rotating drums as used in the Bell would also have a gyroscopic effect that may neutralize some gravitational forces. Mercury due to its heavy weight would help accelerate the vortex action within the drums. This is but speculation. Latter 20th century and 21st century research relating to similar topics would indicate that Plasmas created by electric currents are known to cause vortices also known as plasmoids in which the lines of magnetic field force is almost completely closed. When achieved this creates a situation by which the vortex becomes isolated from the surrounding environment creating a localized spatial time distortion. (11) Heim speculated about changes of the structure of materials exposed to artificial and high generated gravitational fields. Work at the University of Warsaw Institute of Plasma Physics and laser Micro-fusion has built a device they call a plasma trap that is horizontal rather than vertical but looks very similar to the Bell.

SS Commando specialist Otto Skorzeny the man who broke the Maginot line, and rescued Mussolini, lived in Spain after the war where Franco gave him sanctuary. It has been reported that Skorzeny was cognizant of the Bell project and in fact had many facts relating thereto and offered the information for sale to Western powers. If anyone took the deal, is unreported.


1.10 July 1856-7 Jan 1943 Serb of US citizenship. On his death only 150,000 documents of his writings and journals were released all the rest (90%) was clarified as top secret to this day.
2.Scalar Physics (as in scale) is defined by a single number or point on any scale. Claimed as a magnitude but without direction, as a volume of mass. It is distinguished from vector.
3.Office of Strategic Services which was disbanded by Pres. Truman due to having been overrun by communists.
4.Aether Physics is sub atomic sized physics. (A History of the Aether and Electricity by Sir Edmund Whittaker 1951) & (A history of the theories of the Aether & Electricity, from the age of Descartes to the close of the 19th century.
5.Obergruppenfuerer is a rank equivalent to four-star general the highest rank in the SS, there were only four ever created. Mazuw was made an Obergruppenfuerer on Hitler's birthday April 20 1942. He must have been very well connected.
6.Silesia is now part of Poland on the Check republic border but was part of Germany for all history prior to WWI.
7.The transport project was titled Laternenetraeger (literal translation light carrier, or a code for Bell carrier)
8.Research, Development, Patents
9.Project Paperclip was the transfer at the close of WWII of Nazi scientists, physicist, engineers and rocket aeronautical engineers from Germany to America.
10.Einsteinium #99 on the periodic table of elements has a atomic number of 252.080
11.Heim Theory (Prof. Burkhard Heim Goettingen University) Physicist Feb 9,1925 to Jan. 14 2001.
**The super secret Aurora aircraft project: simply listed in budget as (Other Aircraft) 1986 to 96 US government funding $80.1 million increased to $2.272 billion in 1988. How much of Aurora is based on bell technology is unknown.
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Besides flight, and in consideration of who was in charge of the Bell project and the frequent references to a Wunderwaffe, (miracle weapon) it seems likely that there was a second consideration to this research. It is also likely as in most research that secondary developments would result in ancillary inventions not previously contemplated by its researchers. One path known to have been followed was scalar weapons. Such weapons would be designed to disrupt time through the use of electric and magnetic interference with polarity and magnetic and gravitational forces. Experiments carried out with this technology in infancy stages proved disastrous for scientist's workers as well as employed KZ labor. The total number of people killed is unknown because records were destroyed in the late 40's. At one point seven scientists died in just a single experiment.

The occult factor is that two societies were at various times involved with the Bell project. The Viril Society and the Thule Gesellschaft. Both of these organizations were involved with metaphysics, and various occult belief systems. They together with the Black Sun (Schwarze Sonne) represented the foundation of the Nazi party in Germany as well as Austria. Upper Echelon of the Nazi party were apt to be Thule members as was Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Emil Mazuw and all ranking members of the SS. The Viril society was mostly female and consisted of many mediums; they can usually be identified on photos of the time by the fact that they never cut their hair
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Further research indicates that the Thule Gesellschaft and the Viril Gesellschaft who became affiliated in the early 30's in Vienna were the originators of saucer shaped flying machines. The last of these produced in 1944 as an extension of the SS Gloken experiments was over 120 feet (40M) in diameter. It was the culmination of a series of such craft, the first of which flew in 1934. In progression the prototypes were RFZ I, RFZ II, RFZ 5, U13, SSE 4, VR 12, and then the final developments of HAUNEBU I & II. And then the last Haunebu IV, 120 M in dia. These craft were reportedly tested with over 100 test flights. Speeds attained were in final version 40,000 Klm. P. hrs. In order to sustain flight at such speed within the atmosphere the hull was cooled by liquid oxygen and consisted of two layers between which the liquid oxygen was pumped. The hull was made of a special alloy called Victalen.

The entire story of the Bell is riddled with misinformation to the point of being ridiculous. Per example the Brown effect (1990), which relates to electromagnetic propulsion, was made to appear as a hoax by a US Air Force study titled "Twenty-first Century Propulsion Concepts". The fact that the air force study used different voltages and designs from Brown specifically to produce failure is of course never mentioned. One is then reminded of the Aurora Darkstar and Astra projects that have been denied for years while being funded by billions of dollars. This is sort of like the SR-71, U-2, A-12, FY 117A, YF-22 and other programs that were denied for decades only then to see the light of day. The fact is that the US air force has much to lose from such science, as it would obsolete their entire fleet.

There is one other man involved in the Bell project beginning in 1944 SS general Kammler was overseeing the entire project. In March of 1945 he moved his HQ from Berlin to Munich. On April 18, 1945 Kammler and Mazuw along with the Bell project an everything known about it, along with all the notes, and documents disappeared from planet earth also the only operational Junkers JU 390.


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« Reply #5 on: Feb 3rd, 2011, 9:11pm »

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« Reply #6 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 3:01pm »

The Henge for testing the Nazi Bell in Nick Cook's book "The hunt for Zero Point" turned out to be the remnant of a water tower. Nick Cook ran with the story before looking for similar structures in the area.

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Also see: THE ENDLESS RETURN OF THE NAZI SAUCERS:Comment on a presentation by Jean-Pierre Troadec in the sensationalist French magazine "Top Secret"

People want to believe UFO's are a product of the Nazi's believing in stories about the Vril society etc but it's just recycled bunk.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 4:04pm »

So you're going to tell me you actually listen to their determinations on that UFO hunters show? That is who came up with the water tower theory you know. And they thoroughly failed to address something that Cook had on his show, the trench with the electrical conduit in it. Which was in earlier books by the way.

Beyond that, there are plenty of recon photographs that the allies took over a span of a couple of years that show the Henge with no water tower on top of it. Care to explain those away? The allies couldn't figure out what the thing was for either. And yes, it was new then. They knew what time span it was built in because it wasn't in pictures prior to a certain point.

People should check a little further before spouting their ideas out on the air. Nazi Germany was photographed more than a Playboy Centerfold during those years. Every inch of it. The allies were constantly trying to find out where they had hidden their weapons factories at. Speer was very good at his job. But, back to the point, there are other sources than TV shows to determine things by. The Henge was no water tower. It sat there empty since it was built. But, by the same token, the idea that it was used to test the Bell is just a theory too. Nobody knows what it was, but we do know something it wasn't. UFO Hunters? Ahahahaha........

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 5th, 2011, 1:56pm »

[quote The Foo-fighters commonly exposed by B 52 aircraft of WWII were powered by a different non-chemical means. [/quote]

Makes me wonder about people who come up with this stuff and don't know their history. B-52's in WW2!!!? Would have been a shorter war for sure. Probably meant B-25's, even though B-17's were more prevalent over Europe in the war.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 5th, 2011, 2:10pm »

It's pretty clear that this 'Henge' structure is just an old water tower.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 7th, 2011, 1:09pm »

OK if the "Henge" is not a water tank base can you direct me to the photos you use as proof?
Tesla is spelled with one S.
Admiral Rhein Kriegsmarine ? The man was actualy named after the german navy and the river? Perhaps a comma between the Rhein and Kriegsmarine might help. Or perhaps they refer to the title of the man in charge of river boats?
Air to Air refueling mastered but never used? Hard to believe when you are fighting a war. And if the plane could be refueled what was used as a tanker?
You are fighting for your life and have tested these craft and not used them even for propaganda?
The whole shootin' match neatly smuggled out to keep it from the allies then later willingly given to one of them? Hard to believe. Better to destroy it, or give it to your enemies enemy.
Sounds like one more "Zupermen" story to me.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 7th, 2011, 1:46pm »

No, the Henge is not a freaking water tower. If you want pictures, try the freedom of information act request procedure at the DOD. Take care to note that they called it The Flytrap or you might not get the pictures.

Allied pilots snapped pictures of that thing from the time it was built until the end of the war and there wasn't a tank on it. The intelligence boys puzzled over it long and hard and couldn't figure out what it was. Some idiot from a TV show that was dumped for running a show that tried to verify a proven hoax as real, spots something that looks the same and now he's a genius? Come on folks. Do you know that there is also a high voltage conduit in the ground around the base of it? That seems like one strange thing to include in the hardware for a water tower.

As for those arguing the other side of this? You do realize that it's just a theory of someone's that this is something used for the bell, don't you? Something that looked suspiciously like the bell, identical in fact, crashed in Kecksburg in 1965. We know where it went too. Wright Patterson Air Force Base. I've never been there, but I've never seen a picture of anything that looks like the Henge associated with that base.

But with all of the members we have, it seems like we should be able to settle this one fairly easy.

Who lives in that part of Ohio? Could you check out Wright Patterson for a structure that looks like this please?

Now, my personal take on this? The Henge was probably part of the experiment early on. But turned out to be a red herring. Why do I say this? Easy. In the pictures, the area around the Henge looks unused in some of them. Oh, and how am I so certain it wasn't for a water tank? That's easy. Just check out the topography around that site. Plenty of water sources of immense size. The Nazis were trying to hide things, remember? Build a giant water tower when you have a small lake? Use your heads ...........
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