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« Thread started on: Oct 30th, 2017, 11:32am »

Robert Powell and Alejandro Rojas are two of the board members.....


Scientific study of UFOs to be focus of new organization

Posted by: Alejandro Rojas
October 27, 2017

An organization of scientists, former military and law enforcement officials and other professionals hope to bring science to bear in the search for answers to the UFO mystery.

October 27, 2017 – The Scientific Coalition for Ufology (SCU) is formally launching today, and hopes to bring the discipline and rigor of scientific analysis to the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs), also known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). A group of scientists, former military and law enforcement officials and other professionals, many of whom have decades of experience looking into UAPs, believe there are many unanswered questions, and that a serious examination is warranted.

“SCU is composed of serious, dedicated, researchers who do not merely gloss over this subject, but rather they dive into it, investigate it broadly, remain objective and apply the scientific method and its principles to the study,” explained SCU board member Rich Hoffman. “We seek to have formal peer reviewed works being printed in journals, not tabloids.”

Hoffman is an IT professional and a senior engineer at U.S. Army Materiel Command. He has been researching UAPs since 1964.

Fellow board member Robert Powell explains why he feels an organization such as the SCU is necessary: “It is important that there exists a scientific organization that examines the UFO phenomenon in a scientific and open minded manner. There is too much silliness associated with this topic when the core reality of the phenomenon has potentially real implications for society. An organization that can be trusted to provide the media with an impartial and scientific view of the phenomenon is needed.”

Powell is retired from a career as a research and development lab and engineering manager. For several years he served as the director of research and chair of the scientific board for an international volunteer UFO research organization, (MUFON).

Powell adds, “Ultimately we want to determine whether intelligent life exists elsewhere and whether it has visited our planet. We want scientists and investigators involved with our organization in as many varied fields as possible to affiliate with us in a common objective to scientifically study the UFO phenomenon.”

The SCU was first brought together as an impromptu group of researchers organized to examine a mysterious video captured by Homeland Security over Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. The group spent months looking into the technical aspects of the video and researching its provenance. In the end, it remains a controversial case, and one which the group could not solve. The video and the 162-page analysis of the case can be found at the SCU website, ExploreSCU.org.

They continue to examine this case, and felt it would be helpful to bring in more professionals to put the same level of scrutiny to bear on other UFO cases, and to facilitate peer review of research papers on the topic.

“Our hope is that other scientists and professionals who also have a desire that may be developing, or has laid dormant, will connect with us, become an affiliate, and lend us their intellect and their interest in finding the best approach to the scientific study of this phenomenon,” says Hoffman. “Our desire is to build a worldwide coalition that will give us the answers we have long been seeking. What is the nature of the phenomena we call UFOs?”

Headlines have been ablaze lately with the news of the creation of a similar effort by rocker Tom DeLonge, formerly of the band Blink-182. The SCU has already made inroads with that organization and others around the world in an effort to coalesce serious research of UAPs.

As for what sets the SCU apart from other organizations, board member Alejandro Rojas says, “Although we do not have a rock star in our group, the SCU is made-up of rock stars in the UFO research field.”

Besides reaching out to DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy, the SCU has created relationships with other credible organizations, including the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS), which was created by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, consultant to the U.S. Air Force’s official UFO studies from 1947 to 1969.

“Our team of scientists and professionals is growing,” says Hoffman. “We believe that the minds we bring together can help us solve the mystery. We have already put to use the team approach to study the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case and are applying this in our study of a luminous phenomenon in Cloverdale, Alabama. It is through the reach-back to qualified scientists and professionals that we aim to do a better job of actually studying this phenomenon scientifically.”

About the Scientific Coalition for Ufology
Mission abstract: To conduct, promote and encourage rigorous scientific examination of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

To fully utilize scientific principles, methodologies and practices in the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon observed and reported around the globe. We provide scientific case analysis support to witness cases, other scientific organizations, and government entities who are looking for the certitude of facts to this phenomenon.

We seek to share credible data with the public, the media, the government, and scientific institutions, so we can further our understanding of this enigmatic phenomenon.

The Scientific Coalition for Ufology (SCU) is a think tank of scientists, researchers and professionals stretching across organizations, governments and industries to scientifically and publicly explore unknown anomalous phenomena known around the world as UFOs, USOs, UAPs, OVNIs, etc.

SCU performs research and scientific studies concerning evidentiary, military, technological, and cultural effects of unknown phenomena around the world. We must take the first step to objectively understand the phenomena without bias or prejudice.

Contributors within SCU include individuals from organizations around the world in the UFO/UAP field, militaries, governments, private industry and media. Every case SCU conducts is presented objectively and scientifically to the public through peer review. All contributors are appointed based on professional and educational background, no membership exists, no dues are collected. All work within SCU is conducted under strong guidelines and standards.

For more about the Scientific Coalition for UFOs, visit: ExploreSCU.org.

http://www.openminds.tv/scientific-study-of-ufos-to-be-focus-of-new-organization/41238

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« Reply #1 on: Oct 30th, 2017, 12:48pm »

About SCU

Mission Abstract

To conduct, promote and encourage rigorous scientific examination of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

To fully utilize scientific principles, methodologies and practices in the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon observed and reported around the globe. We provide scientific case analysis support to witness cases, other scientific organizations, and government entities who are looking for the certitude of facts to this phenomenon.

We seek to share credible data with the public, the media, the government, and scientific institutions, so we can further our understanding of this enigmatic phenomenon.

The Scientific Coalition of Scientists for UFOlogy (SCU) is a think tank of scientists, researchers and professionals stretching across organizations, governments and industries to scientifically and publicly explore unknown anomalous phenomena known around the world as UFOs, USOs, UAPs, OVNIs, etc.

SCU is not a club or group, rather it is a think tank. SCU is an organization that performs research and scientific studies concerning topics such as evidentiary, military, technological, and cultural effects the ever present unknown phenomena in our sky, in our oceans and in space has on our civilization. We must take the first step in purely objectively understanding the phenomenon without bias or prejudice.

Contributors within SCU include individuals from organizations around the world in the UFO/UAP field, militaries, governments, private industry and media. All work SCU conducts is presented objectively and scientifically to the public through peer review. All contributors are appointed based on professional and educational background, no membership exists no dues are collected. All work within SCU is conducted under strong guidelines and standards.



What SCU Stands By

Mission


The Scientific Exploration of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.


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1 - To establish a foundation and resource for credible, objective, scientific peer reviewed content on the subject of UAPs.

2 - To create partnerships in scientific and technological endeavors to explore the UAP phenomenon. To establish partnerships with other scientific organizations, universities, governments to help improve the data collection, data dissemination and research of the UAP subject.

3 - To sponsor public and networking environments and events to augment communication within the serious research community.

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 31st, 2017, 2:48pm »

on Oct 30th, 2017, 12:48pm, Swamprat wrote:

What SCU Stands By

Mission


The Scientific Exploration of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.

Goals

1 - To establish a foundation and resource for credible, objective, scientific peer reviewed content on the subject of UAPs.

2 - To create partnerships in scientific and technological endeavors to explore the UAP phenomenon. To establish partnerships with other scientific organizations, universities, governments to help improve the data collection, data dissemination and research of the UAP subject.

3 - To sponsor public and networking environments and events to augment communication within the serious research community.



What is your take on this, Swamprat?

Do you think that SCU would scientifically examine You Tube videos doing the same thing all over again, e.g. trying to separate the wheat from the chaff?
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 31st, 2017, 6:28pm »


"An organization of scientists, former military and law enforcement officials and other professionals hope to bring science to bear in the search for answers to the UFO mystery."

This is exciting news.

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« Reply #4 on: Oct 31st, 2017, 8:11pm »

Travex, I just don't know any more. We can hope. They do have a measure of technical expertise in the group. Time will tell.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 10th, 2017, 4:00pm »

on Oct 30th, 2017, 12:48pm, Swamprat wrote:
About SCU

Mission Abstract

To conduct, promote and encourage rigorous scientific examination of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

To fully utilize scientific principles, methodologies and practices in the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon observed and reported around the globe. We provide scientific case analysis support to witness cases, other scientific organizations, and government entities who are looking for the certitude of facts to this phenomenon.




If you stick to the rigor of scientific methods, the way science is done by the Ph.D.'s at SETI, you successfully debunk any UFO-related case ever observed and reported. That's because, according to the SETI, there is still no scientific evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life. In this view, the name of the group Scientific Coalition for UFO is a misnomer - it should read Scientific Coalition against UFO Claims instead.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 10th, 2017, 5:37pm »

Senior SETI Astronomer Seth Showstop would agree with that. However, Jill Tarter does not agree with that.
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on Nov 10th, 2017, 5:37pm, Swamprat wrote:
Senior SETI Astronomer Seth Showstop would agree with that. However, Jill Tarter does not agree with that.


Can you be more specific in regard to the alleged disagreement?
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 10th, 2017, 9:22pm »

Not much. It is no secret that Seth Shostock has always maintained that ufologists are misguided idiots and there is no chance that aliens are visiting or have ever visited this planet. Jill Tarter, on the other hand. has said that it is possible that they have.
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on Nov 10th, 2017, 9:22pm, Swamprat wrote:
Not much. It is no secret that Seth Shostock has always maintained that ufologists are misguided idiots and there is no chance that aliens are visiting or have ever visited this planet. Jill Tarter, on the other hand. has said that it is possible that they have.


Try as I might, I couldn't find any reference that Jill Tarter said that. All I could find is her answer to the claim that UFO is a manifestation of ET life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMjXyQ9EUbA

Her view seems to run parallel with Shostak's.

The problem here is that we've learned most of the scientific methods of investigation by observing the nature and not the activities of apparently super advanced ET civilization. How do you deny the existence of something you don't have the slightest idea about? Sure, the UFO's are certainly not the product of a civilization similar to ours, but SETI's denial rests exactly on that premise, because the PhD's can't know better than that, but such reasoning is obviously flawed.

Go back to the 17th century, but leave the sky at the present, and tell some of the learned folks that the light they see in the night sky (the International Space Station) is not a new, very bright star but something that people like them live in. Even celebrated Isaac Newton would resist your claim heavily finally rejecting it altogether due to the lack of rationality. It would take some time for Isaac to realize that the light in question doesn't not behave like other stars, but that would hardly become an argument speaking for the claim that it is man-made craft with people aboard.

The new investigative organization may apply a stricter filter, but that's about all it can do. There is a rule: Do not disturb the natural habitat of Homo sapiens, and I don't think that our scientific methods and technologies are advanced enough to break the rule. The ET's allow the UFO exist as another type of belief, but it cannot become a theory proposed by the scientific authority.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 11th, 2017, 1:04pm »

Hhhhmmm......

How many times have I heard the desperate cries of UFOlogy's 'anointed' that the only thing UFOlogy needs to become legitimate in the eyes of culture is to "apply more science".

Balderdash and humbug. This whole idea is farcical. Those making such claims have persistently ignored the simple reason that science has not established UFO reality in the first place: we have no UFOs to study! (Well, at least culture at large. I suspect that UFOs do exist and that certain people in special places have direct knowledge of them. But we great unwashed masses are not privy to that information.)

It is really discouraging that the same "solutions" are always bandied about by "serious" UFO researchers as an ultimate panacea to UFOlogy's lack of mainstream credibility.

Produce the UFO and the mainstream will accept. Fail to do so and, well, you are just pissing into the wind. Oddly, I find myself agreeing with Travex. His usual torturously convoluted and thoroughly confabulated commentary is absent here. Kudos dude!

But I have seen this tired old bromide repeated so many times over the past several decades that I am somewhat puzzled that there are still those out there that maintain that this wizened old cliche is, somehow, a new and paradigm changing development. It ain't, and it will not make a lick of difference to the mainstream until the UFO is actually produced.

Sorry, materialists do not respond to the earnest intentions of scientists that fail to produce the beef. Show me the beef and I will show you paradigm change. Otherwise, I am just bored. Same crap, different day.

Catch 22. Eh? rolleyes

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on Nov 11th, 2017, 1:04pm, bonehead wrote:


But I have seen this tired old bromide repeated so many times over the past several decades that I am somewhat puzzled that there are still those out there that maintain that this wizened old cliche is, somehow, a new and paradigm changing development. It ain't, and it will not make a lick of difference to the mainstream until the UFO is actually produced.



Well, it's too late to bring the flying saucer to the public on the silver patter. It was always difficult, because it was always the government recovery crew that got to the crashed flying saucers first. That makes Mac Brazel's discovery a unique case...

Don't think that every UFO evangelist is rather dumb. If you ask some of them why is it so that flying saucers always develop serious technical difficulties while flying over unpopulated areas so ordinary folks can't get their hand on the debris and send it to MUFON, you get no-nonsense answer saying that the alien pilots always try to avoid crashing into populated places, the same way human pilots try not to crash their crippled planes into the crowd of spectators during air shows. You would have to be persistent and produce destabilizing arguments, like this one:

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But something strange happens when you link the crash of the Israeli airliner with UFO.

A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862
B: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_flight_1628_incident

When you show them the similarity between El Al Flight 1862 and JAL Fligh 1628, they have suddenly hard time to comprehend that 1862 and 1628 are similar numbers, not to mention the implication of that similarity not being a coincidence, as it applies to the subject of UFO crashes and recoveries. But they would be otherwise very keen on infesting the environment under investigation with their beloved subject of UFO crashes and recoveries, which consequently involves the government, thus expanding the subject into the topic of government UFO secrecy; which, in turn, promises future disclosures. Just stay tuned my dear gullible friend...

The second, and unsolvable problem for the silver platter evidence is the fact that all genuine UFO displays were canceled starting December 21, 2012. The alien activities have transformed and now mostly involve induced conspiracy theories. Those conspiracy theories which are pervasive enough and based on substantial derailment of reason have the highest priority to be analyzed with the tools learned from observing UFO's.

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